>Current Featured Adventurer Banners:FFXI collab - Until 9/10-The Abhorrent One of Tavnazia, Prishe-Singer of the Rhapsodies, Iroha-Darksteel Hurricane, Zeid>Current Reminiscence Adventurer Banners:6 Heroes of the Vanguard (Alice, Yekaterina, Aldric, Shiou, Galbadus, Gillion) (6% legendary rate) - Until 8/19>Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphne>Current Events/New Content:[Midget Delays] Yrsa/Heinrico/Erwin CC soon[Actual Nyontents] FFXI collab - Until 9/10-New story quest-Relic Weapon crafting-Motherfucking full party heal megalixir (one-time-only)[FREE COLLAB LEGENDARY] check beginning abyss B1[August Roadmap] https://xcancel.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/2083116081246577148>Fanguides:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrzhttps://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/ - (EN)https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/ - (JP)>Free 50 gems on each webstore every weekstore.wizardry.infowebstore.wizardry.info/product>Additional Links/Guideshttps://rentry.org/6mb5tx3tPrevious thread: >>577171740
Maybe the abyss ain't so bad...
>>577439603>but to most players niche/inconvenient is entirely synonymous with badIf you're farming junk in collab that really isn't an excuse anymore, coupled with how ore just got trivialized and gold has never mattered, you can easily get anything you want going right now (outside aspd setups w/Hunting gear anyway)
>>577440205Entirely different person but, Amatsu's soft caps also feel on the low side.I'll possibly drop some books on it, but I'm also in no hurry to do so either.
any way to get my mages doing malefic wind or something on autobattle instead of their weak ass migal shit?
>>577440560yeah click on them out of battle and set their strategy to repeat previous action
>>577439932_____!
>>577440153Ainiki is a different case because that scales directly off of divine power, so a staff would solve her problem pretty easily and it's shit that she can't use one. Iroha is a combination of both attack and divine, but it leans attack so she wants to use a spear anyway and just plain needs special armor and realistically her gacha weapon
>beat A3>started A4>cleared Copper examheading back to Castle Zvahl to farm Fragments nowI think I'm getting good at this game bwos
>>577439603>>577438957What the hell is ESS/PAOS
>>577441519Nigger you are the reason the put directions on shampoo bottles. How the fuck are you confused about what skill has the initials ESS?
>>577441743maybe he is a NWO and hasn't arrived to level 60+
>>577441519>Earth-Splitting Strike: Moderate physical attack on 1 enemy. Chance to Stun based on own Attack Power.>Poised All-Out Strike: Moderate physical attack on 1 enemy. This skill cannot be used on the next turn after it is used.>>577442092Can still look at their fighter's unlearned skills.
>>577441743Another burgerchild not left behind and making it everyone's problem.
>>577442198Thanks. How do these stack up to Wild Strike and Full Power Strike? I've just been using those on my fighters. Got my Benius hitting like 11k after I finish setting up my buffs and debuffs.>>577441743Cunt
>>57744274011k??
>>577442740Turn 1 I have her do Warrior's Battle Cry lv 3, turn 2 I have her do Full Power Strike lv 2. Before FPS goes off I have one of my two spell casters cast Morlis, and I have one of my physical attackers use Armor Break, THEN I have my spell casters cast Dalto twice to get a freeze out. Takes a couple turns of set up but I've yet to see anything survive getting hit once it's all set up. This has been effective enough I've never NEEDED to even glance at ESS or PAOS.
For z5 8xdemons do y'all clap the back row with Malefic Wind first or just throw it all at the front row and work your way back
>>577444151I toss out Alice's labadios(they aren't undead but are weak to light) and then finish them off with ranger's row shot and a lana who inherited rinne's row attack. If you are newer it's probably better to focus on shit one at a time though(prioritizing the mages).
Best way for magic users to deal damage?Also I've gone as far as A3, what is my current best spot to get exp?
>>577445681>Also I've gone as far as A3, what is my current best spot to get exp?If you've like just gotten to A3 and are level 40 or lower just wheel back to "All abord" go to town and take the quest to fight the warped ones in zone 7. Fight two waves, give up, then fight 2 waves again. If you are already in A3 proper and you're getting closer to or even past level 50, it's genuinely just find a deep floor and run around fighting shit. There's not really a good exp farm spot.
>>577445681>Best way for magic users to deal damage?They don't, single targetUse Yek's Secret Art to shit on undead in addition to everything else with under 700hp, otherwise cast a debuff or Porto to help your melee chunk
>>577445681Claustrum or migal 5 for single target damage.Usually Aoe or malefic wind (A4) is good enough for mages. But katino sleep is easily a caster's biggest damage contribution>>577443852>11k but need shatter FPS and a full kitchen sink of buffsGive it up. Come join us in the ESS and PAOS rotation. Add a scourge if you are feeling feisty.
>5*>built for magesreeeeee
>>577446352LFAS
>>5774464205* ebonsteel isn't special enough when you already have 5* steel in alabaster
>>577446326>11k but need shatter FPS and a full kitchen sink of buffsIt's not like my whole team is setting up the buffs and debuffs, I still have like 2-3 other characters generally doing good damage.
>11k shatterYou're weak, your bloodline is weak, and you will not survive the winter.
>>577446263>If you've like just gotten to A3 and are level 40 or lowerI've got a full team of level 70s, I just need to train up the collab characters.Also what is the best level cap to keep characters at while they soak in exp? I've been keeping them at 40. Is it worth taking them to 50 or do they start to see big EXP drop offs around there?>wheel back to "All abord" go to town and take the quest to fight the warped ones in zone 7. Fight two waves, give up, then fight 2 waves again.Realistically how high can I get someone with this method?>>577446326>ClaustrumNot seeing it in the skill list boss. It an event weapon thing? If so, does it do anything besides big number?
it's up?
>>577447229Do frozen enemies gain a fire weakness?
>>577442740PAOS is basically FPS but instead of taking a turn to charge up, it takes a turn to recover. Maybe it doesn't hit as hard, but you can't be knocked out of it. ESS is basically Heavy Attack 3, so it's close to Wild Strike without the ASPD debuff. Basically you alternate those two on fighters on a boss.
>>577447270if you're 70 farm in the collabi've leveled 10 characters/alt classes so far
>>577446565BoH is Silver tier, it just has low base stats. It's only an important distinction because it can roll full silver tier blessings. It's really just a question of them overvaluing the attack buff and nerfing the defense stat to compensate.
>>577445681the best mage is a a mage class changed to priest spamming debuffs with the occasional heal. fyi. Yeka is really good at this role because her priest form has giga HP, especially if you get her sex skin.
>>577447229Do keep in mind I don't have access to Silver gear yet. Well I do now thanks to the event but I need to do a whole lot of farming before I have any Silver gear worth using.
>>577447441I wish this game had a proper training room with a dummy that can die so I could test all this shit out. It's easy to get into a rhythm and not experiment much when you're just trying to survive or grind.>>577447454Any specific floor that is best to farm exp on? I've just been running around floor 1 to kill dudes quick to get more silver gear drops.
>>577448046everyone is farming the two packs of 8 demons on floor 5.
>>577448046>that can die*can't die
>>577448046if your main team is strong enough hop into both rooms of floor5 and auto them all to deathbut if you're leveling characters the offscreen niggers will probably snipe themfor low levels i just full clear floor1 to 3 while mining one full lap is about 3 to 400k exp depending on packs and stuff
>>577448154>>577448386Thanks bruvs. Gonna have to progress a bit then since my progress is currently floor 4 on loop 2.
>>577447469Bracelet of hatred is an ebonsteel ring, check your filters.I can't believe that JD still hasn't learn his lesson after the hairpin debacle that he shouldn't be given mismatched item/blessing tiers anymore.
Is Zied skill good for thief? Idk what to use other than sneak attack.
>>577441485Don't do this. SPD bp is fine on a snail like Ainiggi because her class multiplier is still 0.8I can't imagine Zeid is anywhere near that generous>>577449585Zeid's skill is probably okay, but I don't think it would be much better than DTS2/astral break damage.But any of your thieves just need the Relic bow skill. Burns through SP but you don't need to waste several DTS inherits.DTS1, HA3(with fighter CC), or Zeid inherit if you need something efficient.
I hate this bunch of incompetents who can't even manage 3 trips on the lvl 20/40 dispatches.>lvl 20 dispatch, send two lvl 70 and two lvl 60>3 people get stoned>It's okay, the two fighters with priest skills and gold needles will cure them>They don't heal the fucking priest and haul his stone ass back to townMaybe I just need 12k party power like my lvl 60 dispatch team.
>>577451076these dispatches have some odd requirementsI've sent a level 70 team to the 60 one equipped with pots needles and gear with 13k power and it failed both floorsi'm sending a 40 team to the level 20 and a level 60-70 team to the 40 nowthe only important point is they get to the end and mine now that gold pickaxes work anyway
>>577451076post your linarias detect and disarm trap
holy shit what level is Lanavaille's personal quest? I'm getting completely raped.
2h axes or 2h swords?
>>577451795>>577451076Do items like gold needles and gold pickaxes actually get used up in dispatches?
>>5774528762h axes are better, assuming even quality blessings. However we have gotten more freebie swords while with axes you have to get lucky with junk.
>>577452876Axes have def penetration so I tend to go with that
a5 weapons needs some rebalancinglike increase the accuracy and aspd penalty for 2h and give extra acc and aspd for 1h weapons or somethingtheres no point in using 1h axe, mace, rod and even sword for some cases at allor maybe 1h or 2h weapon-specific skills?
>>577453956ESS should be 2h only.PAOS should be 1h only.
>>577452931just pickaxes
>>577452876Swords innately have better accuracy, axes ignore a certain amount of enemy defense basically acting as though their attack is higher. Most people are hitting frequently enough, but if you just want to minimize your chance of missing because you're gambling on one big 11k FPS or whatever, or your character just has low accuracy because they're a human female or whatever, sword. Personally I just pick sword because it looks cool and I used one in FFXI
I have a fighter with a 2H swordI have my 2nd fighter with a 2H maceI have my 3rd fighter with a 2H axeI have my 4th fighter with a spear
>>577451803Default lvl2/lvl2 without bondmates.>>577451795You want>gold needles for stone>antitoxin for regular poison>powerful antidote for Crit poisonIn addition to anything you usually send
>>577455167You mage? Your healer? Your thief?
>>577447270>what is the best level cap to keep characters at while they soak in exp? I've been keeping them at 40. Is it worth taking them to 50 or do they start to see big EXP drop offs around there?Anyone?
>>5774555815th fighter with a staff. Backline samurai if I feel fancy.
>>577455581are those fighter weapons?
>>577455732It depends on your level relative to the enemies in the area. So on the left, where it shows turn order, click the enemy picture. It will show you what level they are. Stay 10 levels below that.
>>57745573250-60. That's if you want to minmax though. Frankly it's not needed and you can just uncap when you have the tags. If you are using a character they will gain exp fast enough regardless.
benis
Are they going to add more missions to the Collab? I don't think it's possible to get all the points even if you buy the pass.>>577452876Swords unless you find a really sick Axe.
>>577455732eh. In the long run I end up taking them to 60 so they can survive for hours on auto with zero micromanagament.
>>577456232I was told 2H axes were the way to go
>>577456303You use what rng gives you. Your preference is irrelevant.
>one more attestation drop and I'm done with relic farmingOh thank god. Now I can spend the rest of my life grinding for FAS
>>577455581Why would you use a thief?
>>577456546Speaking of attestation farming, are they completely random or are field bosses in certain spots more likely to give specific drops?
>>577456232>Are they going to add more missions to the Collab? I don't think it's possible to get all the points even if you buy the pass.I'm just glancing at the greyed out points since I don't have the pass but it should go way over the cap with them, what do you mean? Also it's only gil if you don't have the pass so no one should care>>5774563032H Axe has DEF pen, 2H Sword doesn't, I feel like 2H Sword is kept mid on purpose so they can always have them be event weapons that look good but don't actually compete with 2H Axe
>>577456940So you can easily unlock chests? Not to mention thieves actually have pretty good damage.
Speaking of thieves.Bow thief or spear thief?
>>577447229why would I waste tags on a shitty skill that will get powercreep
>>577457295Thieves can't use spears
no way the pickaxes will still be there after the event ends right
>>577457761You can still mine, but rates are nerfed.I don't know what they will replace the ores with.
>>577457912yeah no way JD will let bots endlessly farm for FASprobably just low tier ores and refining stones can drop
if 2 characters have the same action speed, what determines who goes first?
>>577457494>tags Lana bros...They're trying to starve our girl by taking her food away
>>577456975Random and seemly at a lower rate than frags. Basically shit rolls to see if you get a gold chest and then rolls to see if you get attestation or frags.
Hopefully they go all in on bladebastard 3 and we get perma content worth doing for all players.Changing the game to adapt to the collab is this game's greatest strength Fucking brown dust 2 had "roll for ikaruga" with not a single drip of new content. Uninstalled.
>>577457161>Not to mention thieves actually have pretty good damage.good joke
>>577457161>Not to mention thieves actually have pretty good damage.No they fucking don't. They have absolute dogshit trash damage, it's kind of the core issue with the class. They don't learn a single good attacking move and are reliant entirely on inherits(outside of alt rinne) or the relic bow skill, neither of which really hold a candle to other classes.
>>577458603"People" play BD2 for content?
>>577458823>>577458803I'd say easy 1k a turn, or more with sneak attacks is pretty good.
>>577458823thieves dont need damageI just want a reason to bring thieves into dungeons, like thief-only chests and doors
>>5774590801k is dogshit when your fighters are casually and generically dropping 3-6k for less SP and your high end legs are hitting 10k+
fighters need a nerf desu
thieves are pretty useful for the average playerunless you're heavily investing on someone who can double as a chest opener which isn't realistic for most players you're gonna have MC in the back doing it so might as well bring a thief>my d9 yuzu can open chests duh why bring a thief
>>577459080my lana does 1k in autos....
>>577459127or just do it like FF, steal/mug only loot and hidden passageways
>>577459350drecum fucked the balanced so hard that people rather bring another fighter than a samurai(which is suppose to be the hardest hitting class, but gets mogged by fighter). Just hoping samurai gets some game changing shit for 80, advance classes in this game are a fucking joke for anyone that's not named yuzu.
>>577459380Literally all you need to do is feed one bakesh and one jean to someone and slap some combination of master ring, hound mask, and maybe golden gloves if you find a decent pair on someone(optional). You can't call two 100% guaranteed items "high investment". And for the inherits you can even skip it if you are using the MC as your chestbot since he can take a short trip through thief to pick them and cunning pursuit up.
>a class that can survive a hit and deals good damge>or a class that can't survive a hit and does shitty damagehmmmm
>>577459657Ranger is really fucking good too. The only backrow that out damages it is yuzu with pin specifically. It's basically everything thief wishes it was.
>>577459838problem is the rangers are ugly
>>577459994Only henrico. The dorf is cute and ranger Yuzu is cuter than ninja Yuzu. The actual issue is that's fucking it, we don't have any others. You are cucked out of the class if you don't have the dorf or Yuzu(and wouldn't use it if you have her pin anyway, great for unbricking her if you don't though).
>>577459657if Samurai becomes good people are just gonna run 3-4 samuraisWe need a class limit in team comps
>>577459657Sam is actually pretty decent, the issue is it needs lots of investment while fighter just werks out of the box. There is a reason whales bring SamMC over FiMC.
>>577459657Sam hits harder than Poised on every turn after the first for less SP at level 1, the real problem is spending xp scrolls to get BS3 on MC to really go fucking ham feels absolutely awful to do because he's MC, he ain't gonna be Sam forever
>>577459694i'm by no means a veteran but the only item thats in reach for me is a copy of a hound mask which is most likely gonna be a white 1 star a4 kicks my ass, let alone trying to get far enough to farm the gloves or god forbid hitting rank 13my linaria sits in the back with a grand total of 2 bondmates and allows me to open chests in the collab or alabaster without having to be autistic about it trying to hit a 3 pixel white spot for 8 hours a day
>>577460475There are earlier options too. A3 has a quest that gives you a monocle with detect, and various other rings with detection exist for the early parts of the game.
>>577459694lvl2 detect/disarm and gear is not enough on a thief. They need bondmates too to reach the minimum 130det/150dis for A4
>>577460753Lv1 is the only inherit that matters, the further levels give fuckall. One extra detect or disarm isn't gonna matter, but the first level sure does. Bondmates do help yes, but that's a given and secondary to the stat bondmates you should be farming for everyone.
>>577460179>if Samurai becomes good people are just gonna run 3-4 samuraisnot really, all they need to do is buff up samurai's dmg by like 1.5-2 times and 99% of the issue with that class is gone.
>>577460602in the endgame sure they might not be optimal but until then they serve their purposeafter 4 damage dealers and a healer your fifth guy deals less damagejust like you bring 4 damage dealers and 2 supports to anything that isn't autoing packs to deathshould you at one point aim to role compress someone into working as a chest opener too? sureis it realistic to get it done in any short amount of time where the easier option is to eat up a slight team damage loss? nounless you tell me you're autoing with 4 ESS on repeat
>>577460360>There is a reason whales bring SamMC over FiMC.Mostly for memes and gimmicky shit. Mc has skills/inherits that other classes can't get for now. Whales play an entirely different game, so don't get blinded by whales messing around with sam mc.
>hehe, our eyes met
>>577461631For f2poors it's arguably even better.>ichimonji for free, no need to inherit one of the rinnes for an AOE>no competition for the relic katanya, can give the ragnyarok to another character>lots of passives from other classes that otherwise would be impossible or expensive to get>dual scaling makes less stats bricks on your gear, don't have to compete nearly as much with other characters>quick draw stance is a really nice safety net on fights F2P would struggle with but whales would stompLike not much point in running any other sam than MC as a f2p, but it's not a bad idea for him.
for reference, this is what the minigame looks like in the collab my mc has thief leveled up to 35 and has detect/disarm level 1 and yeka inheritlinaria has a yeka, the level 5 bondmates, and level 2 on disarm and detectwhen i'm farming the whole day and opening 200+ chests anything thats smaller than that is actively griefing yourself, it's not that you can't do it, but you're just wasting time on a dumbass minigamemc hits a trap once every 3 chests with those stats>just go get a master ring hound mask and golden gloves and hope they roll well enough so you can get rid of a thief when every pack dies to a round of auto anywaysmakes no sense to me
>>577462472Anon... my lv62 ranger yuzu with just gold gloves and no inherits hits about that level. My actual thief has twice that bar. >rollThe stat rolls have zero impact on chest opening.
>>577462472I just saved inherits for 6 months to get lvl5/lvl5 on my MC after getting tired of having to bring my lvl5/lvl5 fighter Olive everywhere.
>tonberry kills me on death >mc didn't play death animation>use a flame>error>takes me back to right before throat stab>didn't kill me this time>flame 3/3I wheeled irl
>>577462919>The stat rolls have zero impact on chest opening.roll well enough to be used in place of what I have>assuming I could get those in the first place - 2 of the 3 I cannot with my accountif your ranger yuzu can get that high, good for you, none of my guys can get remotely close to that
>>577463156Addendum Everybody is frozenhttps://files.catbox.moe/ex1ji3.mp4
>>577461631I use samurai MC because he's the only evil samurai in the game so it's him or nobody.
>>577464267>evilcuck
>>577465035Well, lool at Mr. Goody-Two-Shoes here.Clear off before I trip you up and steal your flowers.
>>577465653If you think about it, the "steal the little girl's flowers" option is probably allegorical.
>>577465653Nyootral chad achually.
I tried to kick Adam off my team but he really came in clutch on the Copper exam.. I should have never doubted the Millennial LORD
>>577466274https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2WD1SJiRjo
>>577467381Nyall of the above.
I really hope Linaria gets a good alt class.
>>577467764Instructions unclear, enjoy mage linaria.
>>577467764Knight
>>577439932a deep dark... fantasy...?
>>577439603Which parts of Amastu scale with div? The hanadoki step definitely doesn't.
>>577468178>Masketta, a mysterious portal opened up in the forest
>>577466274Imagine this: you're in the tavern, hitting it off with a girl over some mead and rabbit stew. She asks some questions about avoiding surprise attacks and traps and such, and seems really taken by your answers. Then she hits you with this one: "So, big guy, you never did tell me what your alignment was."Your confidence instantly shatters like a frozen goblin hit by a two-handed warhammer. Unable to meet her gaze, you stutter "O-oh, I'm neutral actually...""Sorry, didn't catch that.""I'm neutral."Her expression turns from one of enjoyment to one of utter disbelief. The elves at the next table all start whispering to each other with grins on their faces while keeping their eyes focussed firmly on you. The dwarven barkeeper can't help but shake his head as he turns to take down another keg of beer. "I think I should go..."She says, getting up and running out, her face red with embarassment at having sat down at a table with the biggest loser in the kingdom. You rise quickly to your feet, shouting after her the only justification you can think of "Wait, I can explain! You see we neutrals get an extra 10% from both..." you never get to finish. As you take a step forward you find an adventurer at the adjacent table has stuck his foot out, sending you tumbling to the floor. Everyone in the tavern is in uprorious laughter now, as tears run down your mask you lie helpless on the floor mewling "Someone, someone please just kill me so I can accept death..."
>>577468758Do you know why you had to preface that with imagine?
>>577467856>she uses knights defense or all around cover>encore has a 50/50 chance to activate and cause either skill effect to immediately expire>shes then locked out of using the same skill again because of encore's dogshit rules so she cant even burn sp to fix the problemsounds hilarious
>>577468507Oh, it's the gacha weapon only. These conversion skills are usually pretty bad.
I think ranger needs more weapon types crossbow with defense penmusket that can stunportable ballista that penetrates through targets and hits back row too
>>577469802Just make 1h axe into a ranged weapon if you are ranger. Give the weapon a niche too.
I did it gwos!
>>577468758kek
>>577468758
Canon Good Masketta front and center, with his wives at his side
>>577466274>>577468758It's over for catposters, there's no recovering from this level of humiliation.
>>577468758>>577466274lmao. like i said before, time to cut your balls fat cat.
>>577471004that's literally me
>>577471004The wives:
>>577468758oh no no no... it is so over for neuters
Ainikki paizuri
>>577468758Gillionsissies, our response? GoodGODS are bullying us again!
hmm
So is it even easier to farm for relics now? I got one but was waiting for 2nd part for 3 others
>>577474709AFAIK nothing changed besides adding the shop mats, but there's only 7 of ea so you're still pretty boned if you don't work through the main game to raise your potential drops
>>577474709>>577475050Anons have reported that all enemies respawn when you change floors which removes a few loading screens to fight the 8s again.
i have 200 pulls saved. i will be ready for anni.JD do not release a sexy summer alt or sexy broken character before then.
>>577475439sorry gwo, looks like we're getting summer Amelia / Yuzu followed by new monk class beastfolk
its actually gonna be a barbara alt bannerher unique passive will be that her stun bashes are more likely to stun and her inheritable skill will be way of the knight
What is the shittiest class and why is it the knight?
>>577475424So which spawn in that room specifically has the 8 demon fight?
>>577476114It's thief for sure
>>577476114Knigger has a ton of value in hard fights. Thief is useless across the board.
>>577476114Knight has something it actually does well.It's situational, but stuff like the oni island ogre fight is trivialised by a knight. GD isnt "good" damage, but its decent enough when they don't have to be defending.Thief on the other hand is just sub par at everything, their base damage is shit, their only real damage skill gets cucked by any sort of AOE, their debuffs are just straight up worse than the mage versions, their only unique utility in delay attack is completely invalidated by chronostasis and long term its far easier to give disarm to a mage than it is to get detect for a thief.Anything you would want a thief for, you can do better on multiple other classes with less investment.
>>577476925>>577476921>>577476402You Thief haters couldnt be more wrong
>>577476093Barbara is probably the saddest case of wasted potential, sp discount on knight skills with beastfolk sp pool would have been great. But then they had to fuck it up and limit it to <=10 sp skills when all the best knight skills are >10 sp.
>>577476114going to 2nd the other anons, best case I can see for is milana thief giving her buff to yuzu while having access to blood edge / malefic wind which give her a niche in fights like deranged swordfiend her buffing yuzu probably offsets the loss from having a character with a thief cc apply blood edge>>577477075if you're the linaria poster just say so. she gets a pass
stop this vivi slander. her alt will fix her.
>>577477075Prove it Mr. Box Opener
>>577477864Unfortunately it seems he failed a detect roll and has been petrifiedSomebody please save anon
Is anyone at 60 cap getting 5 attestations and fragments from 8-demons?I just made it to A4 but I'm still getting 4s. I don't know if I should uncap because I'm struggling to fight them already
>need to full heal before implosion>defend doesnt matterpretty gay mechanic wtf
I can literally hear the prelude theme playing in my head
>>577478815You need copper
>>577468758if i was a catposter i would voluntarily get rid of my balls myself because i would no longer qualify as a male after this level of humiliation
>>577478815Uncap already
>>577457161I've fed so many Jeans and Bakeshes to my MC i stopped using thieves altogether even when my MC is on fighter.
have you checked out the new website yet?it's worth a read>they tend to struggle with complex thought and subtletykek
very easy boss fight
>>577480776
>>577481084and they wonder why they are kept as sex slaves
>>577463740this nigga used his full wizardry....
>>577471004wtf that's me
>>577476114You at least need to take knights to bossfights that will rape you without one.Thieves are only good for chests and that's irrelevant once you've got a high level mage or fed enough bakesh and jean to MC.
>>577480776>>577481084so uh.... they're stupid?
Iroha was voiced by Minori Inase????
>>577483554Literally who?
>>577483594One of the most important Arknights character, amongst other thing.
>>577483594
>>577483836who is this succubus?
>>577484375you must be trolling but i'll bite.it's kafuu chino.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEnjmOt-rzQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_82s9xRstw>season 1 was 12 years agotime to accept death and wheel back.
so what is the consensus on relic weapon strength? which ones are the strongest? i already made Ragnarok, what's the 2nd best one?
>>577483594Lulu's VA lmao.
>>577486514Personally I think bow is great for thiefs and rangerAnd dagger really good for offhand and mainhand raven dagger.The rest is only good for their predetermined substats.
>>577487029>thiefs
thiefgwos have just never touched a ranger beforethey REALLY need to do something with the class. They can... move a little fast, have some mediocre dodging capabilities, and some status effects?
>>577488685Sorry still not benching my gipsy wife for an elf nigger.
>>577489372and that's perfectly respectableI'm not benching mine too, but she does need help
Alright goddammit, I got myself to A4, I squeaked by my copper exam, why the fuck am I still not getting drops? Do I need to be 70 too
do you guys think gillion is popular enough to get an alternate style? he's my favorite unit but im afraid he'll get skipped over like some other characters...
>>577489828nta but just use her like a dnd bard mine uses a wand and cast spells and sometimes uses a bow
>>577490148He's not a dwarf which is already a huge advantage. I'd say its plausible, Gerard got a fujo/homobait alt and Gillion has similar energy. It's just a matter of how far down the queue is he.
I like how the game doesn't have "exotic" hair color. Most we get is white, or some green highlight in Benis's. I'm tired of pinkslop or blueslop in other games.
>>577489882Push a little deeper. Kill the bigfoot. That's when oni island unlocks so that's another progression checkpoint probably, if you're actually still not getting drops for shit.
>>577490521I think it fits for faeries at least, if we ever get more of them
>>577490148Just don’t let JD hear about the Gillionhomos or he’ll get a shota alt about how Ged never violated him.
>>577490439I think Gerard is a pretty cool guy and if either of his versions had as much armor as Knigga Daniel does, I’d probably have him in my roster.But he doesn’t, so he isn’t.
I need gear for the new collab characters but my autism prevents me from reversing anything less than all my junk at once, but I have over 10000 pieces of junk on hand right now.I don’t want to play the 6 hour inventory clean up game…
>>577492265they really need to add the option to dismantle at the summoning screen
So for dispatches, I actually need to both level, gear and get them the proper inventory?
>>577492407And also don’t mix good and evil alignments or they’ll sperg out sometimes and just fail sometimes.
>fight the large group of demons or NM>they don't drop any attestations or fragmentsFuck you too game.
>>577492265This is why I never let my junk build up to that level. I reverse once I hit around 500 junk.
>>577492265Wait for anni honestly at this point.
End up grabbing all 3 collab chars andnone of them are as good as livana chucking axes from the back row for 6kIm just not sure what the point of new characters even is at this point.
>>577493278cool, fun, novelty, appealing designs, nostalgiabait or drawing in ff players. Not everything gotta be powercreep. They aren't that bad, too
>>577490521It's weird how Arna alone has lilac hair though
>>577490521I need some more red hair semen demons, but otherwise it’s been a pretty good selection.
>>577493713Surely we'll get Lion next year?
>>577493980Hopefully not, one FF collab is more than enough.
>Zeid is so fucking massive he has to be all the way in the back just to be seen
>>577494352The only FF collab I want is with Jack's game.
>>577495312I'd roll for Jack as long as he comes with his JO crystal.
>>577490601Okay, I tried a few things. I did another kill of the shadow lord, and updated my well of the mind to use up some lanterns I had sitting around and I'm now starting to see silver junk and 5 attest drops.It's most likely the lanterns that did it, but it could possibly be party or individual power
What stat to alter in the relic dagger for a offhand weapon?
>>577496664I’d change Evasion to SUR.
how am i supposed to beat her? i've set my whole party to defend but they got wiped out anyway
>>577497490nevermind i got that bitch
wow her model looks amazing
>>577498290Not sure where the decision making was on zeid being rollable and lion being npcNot played ff11 though maybe zeid is cooler in his game?
>>577498943i dunno eithernever played final finatasy
>>577495926It's overall account progress, B&B collab was the same. People were seeing the junk switch to silver before the accepted story point because they were higher grade. People were also seeing the junk switch at lower grades than that because they had done more sidequests. Seemingly it just checks an invisible stat for overall completion percentage and goes based on that. In the B&B collab even if you earned the right for silver junk you had to wheel back in the event to get it to check again so there's some fuckery with that as well.
>>577494352They already gave an interview where they said they'd like the XI event to rerun and to introduce a Tarutaru as the new playable character.
>>577498943zeid is basically final fantasy batman
>>577498943Lion was kind of a nothing character despite ostensibly being the main heroine of the first expansion, while Zeid was a bit more involved in other stuff.
>>577498943>>577499130Zeid and Lion are frankly both minor characters in the scheme of things. Early FFXI was very much about you making your own stories as adventurers. Killing the Shadowlord was like the 12th overall story mission, and that includes the starting off run a message from one part of town to the other stuff. It is actually part of the story that you are a literal who that just likes gil and fights and cool loot. So neither is developed in the same way as later characters like Iroha or even Prishe, but they are some of the best representation of that era which is important. So then between the two who you can't say that much about, at least Zeid killed the Shadowlord when he first invaded 20 years ago.
>>577500303Wasn't he also the Dark Knight trainer?
>>577500350>at least Zeid killed the Shadowlord when he first invaded 20 years agoTypical g*lka scum pretending they let him out of the mines and stealing credit from the grand hero of Bastok, Volker.
>>577500483As much as DRK had one, yeah. He gives you a big sword and gives you homework and is like "This is going to suck lmao, but that frustration is what you want. Just chase that forever" and then fucks off.
>>577497490homoGWOD
>>577497490>He fell for the "No knight" memeLol. Lmao even.
What is the end game of XI now? did the dungeon crafting and pokemon-ish side content ever go anywhere?
>>577497490do NOT trust the beastwomen
>>577498290I would have much preferred her to Prishe. I get serious FFX vibes from her.
>>577502662Nyo.It’s Odyssey which is a point farming gauntlet speed run and then a boss ladder of increasing difficulty settings.Sortie which is an objective based boss rush map with two floors and variable difficulty based on the floor you’re on.Neo Limbus 2.0 which is Limbus.Dyna-D and Rhapsodies stuff is still semi-relevant.
>>577502662There are 7 "Master Trials" that are the hardest fights in the game that each give a special weapon that does nothing but look pretty and you stylelock that over your current weapon so that other people can see how cool you are. Everything else is doing fights/dungeons to earn gear to be able to clear fights that have the gear your need to clear next fight. Some of the special dungeons have neat gimmicks. There's one where you cannot use a subjob and after a job has been used in a bossfight it cannot be used in the next one so if I go in as DRK and you go in as PLD the next fight neither of us can use either. Also leveling is still very much a thing. After you hit level cap you have to level and then when you hit that cap you have to level and then when you hit that cap you have to level. You stay level 99 the whole time and you earn points that aren't exp but it is definitely just leveling up more.
>>577503702Sounds based.
>>577503986The concept of leveling 1-99 being the actual tutorial and part 1 of your like 30 step plan to kill Chaos (yes really) puts some people off, especially since you do that solo, but I like it.
how do increase treasure find .. i know disarm but what about find
>>577505423Treasure trap detect. It uses detect as a base.
>>577505423Increase I.Q.
>>577501485Many have
>>577500960Just like my dad...
>>577507927https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM
so I'll admit I've been pretty casual till recently but the unc XI collab honeytrap worked well so I'm hooked now and I do want to improveI get that the main things are gear (and inherits to a certain degree), inherits I can't do much about and I won't be swiping the gdp of a small country, but gear I can farmthing is I must have opened atleast 2000 of the silver fey junks and the ebon light gear ones since the collab started and the best "usable" thing I got was a 3* purple pair of gloves with ATK ATK% and my 2nd best 2-liner was a SUR ASPD% bodypiecelike when people say your fighter needs 1000 ATK 180 ACC 100 ASPD 100 SUR how fucking lucky do you have to be with gear and then you have 6 characters?maybe I just don't understand the correct thought process for gear, what to keep, what to alter, what to throw away? is any gear fine indipendent of heavy/light (equipment restrictions aside?), can some gear roll some stats while some can't?
>>577510035You can get by with a lot less than that and probably aren't getting that much without someone with a bunch of disciplines anyway.
>>577501485What no yuzu does*
>>577510035>thing is I must have opened atleast 2000 of the silver fey junksIt never ends.But also, yes certain pieces can only roll certain stats. Check the fasterthoughts wiki for which ones.
>>577510035The blacksmith is a big part of it. The best line you can get on a gear you just rolled is +16 as a total luck god. The smith though, can take that up to 51. So part of it is not just rolling gear but using rolled gear as food for your other rolled gear. Second, you have to realize that you are not doing whalebait dragon fights and nobody is seriously saying you "need" 100 SUR, otherwise Ragnarok would be useless since it is big on boosting SUR and guess what? It's the most recommended relic to build. 100 SUR is just a goal to work towards so that you're not "done" with the game yet and so that you can zoom through next content at mach speed and get back to complaining about no content.
sex with wolfgirls
>>577513702why is she giving me her half eaten apple
>>577513702aie sloppa
>>577510035Honestly don't worry about gear too much. Use decent enough pieces, refine and alter them with lower rarity stones. Just save the good stuff for later, and heavily invest on the god rolls you eventually get. The relic weapons in this event are game changers for newer accounts, just being able to get a 4* Katana with 3 good substats is already saving you like months of dogshit. My best katana was a 2* purple shitter even after clearing the entire oni event shop, for example. I was using a 1* shop Yoto until like 2 months ago, and was still hitting for 12k every turn with my Shiou using BS 3. So yeah gearing is important but using the weaker stones to improve upon mediocre equipment actually gets you pretty decent stuff.
>>577493980It is interesting that they've fully modeled and animated 3 other FFXI characters but haven't given them to us...>>5774953126/10 meme game please leave
How many necropsyches do Tonberries drop to you guys? I'm Copper Grade in A4 and I always get 4. But the wiki says they drop between 4-5 necropsyches.
>>577515378I always get 5
>>577515378I've cleared the second ending of A4 and I always get 4. I dunno what you gotta do to get 5 but I guess I haven't done it.
>>577510035Post party and adventures
>>577515378I have done true ending of a4 and I always get 4.
>>577515465>>577515550>>577515694I haven't finished the first clear of A4 yet so that may be the reason.
>>577495312I BELIEVE in Jack's STRENGTH
>>577515465
>>577515465Wtf I cleared the true ending of 5 and have done every single quest in the game except for the fishing shit and only get 4. I have every single lantern too.
>>577515754i only did the 1st ending (the one that you got eaten) and get 5 of the stuff
>>577515465>I always get 5>gets a 5
>>577514808I guess I do get hung up on what's decent enough or what could turn into usable/be an upgrade.for example, I can tell the shield on the left has potential for EVA memes, a frontline dagger thief, etc - but the ones on the right? can they be made usable? would anyone want those? >>577515564core right now is MC and Lana fighter, Yuzu Alice backline and 2 flexflex being Sheli, Gerulf, Milana, Shiou, Savia, and in the process of leveling Prishe and that changes depending on what I need
>>577516881With the collab dungeon I don't even look at 3 stars right now, I just blow them all up and save all the 4 star purples, even the bad ones because you can just LFAS them later. I don't tend to invest on a piece unless it has double of a good stat (ASPD/ASPD% on chests/shoes for example) then I alter to that stat as well (or SUR depending)Until I get that really good piece, I basically just wear garbage, it's fine, doesn't matter, the MSQ and farming and stuff is easy, you don't need subs as long as you have the ASPD to go first, you don't need a million surety and you won't get it until you get a good Chainmail piece anyway, just let go~
No Ark Angel fight in the second part of the collab?Sad!
For any other newbie out there you don't need abyss progress to get the 5 drops, this is one day after finishing my cooper exam and i haven't done A3, my MC is currently lvl 65, all i did was farm the first floor from lvl 47 and do 8 demons like twice a day.
finally managed to make the 2h sword relic ...i should just change the eva to atk right? or maybe surety?
>>577518602SUR for sure, you'll run into soft caps on ATK anyway, but bosses have SUR resist so you need more and more to overcome it
>>577517956hmm I see, that makes sense, the collab does shit out junk at impressive rates and it's also a good time to get some class changes up and mine awayI'll just save any 4 star purple and I guess any 3 star if it comes with good lines and re-evaluate post collab
>>577516053>every lanternaren't we still waiting on a 2nd speed lantern since like A2
>after everyone is done farming the relic weapons we will add an option to deal with tonberrieswhy the fuck is JD like this
>>577516881Those boots are good. Change the def for attack and you have a solid piece of equipment. Refine with 2* stones and they'll honestly be sufficient. The shield can be used for that, but EVA is one of those stats that needs like 300 to be useful (much less on A3) so only giga 4* are worth it, but since shields are only useful as stat sticks for knights you'll eventually get a good one for eva memes and a good one for Surety Guardian Blow spam. Don't get too hung up on it. Once you get a super good 4* purple item with good substats then you can go crazy.
Good women
>>577497490>no Alice>no Lana>no BenisYou fell for the meme. I don't know what Lion does because I killed her before she could even act, because I run a harem meta party. Sorry homos go to the back of the line.
>>577520561what does that mean?
>>577524182Either a consumable to block/reduce damage or a quest to reset the grudge.It would be funny if trying to clear the grudge buffs the tonberry king further instead. The fight would be incredibly easy of he can't deal grudge damage.
>>577522862>Metafags cant even make their own bantsholykek
>>577522549Marianne is honestly top tier priest.
Prishe liek milk
>>577529354Milk from Prishe's flat chest, brown nipples
Does anyone know where the Wings of The Goddess crystal is located?It's the last one I'm missing and I feel like I've looked everywhere..
>>577529689It's in Zone 4 and can spawn in one of a few random locations.You can see the spawn points here:https://wizardry-daphne-map.kuaz.dev/
>>577529991thanks, appreciate it, I'll try that
Haven't meet the King Tonberry yet, and i have already beaten last week when it wasn't supposed to pop, does it respawn or is one and done thing?
>>577530424I just met him, they jacked up his spell bind/voice thief resistance WAY too much.
>>577529991all I found was a 2nd Chains of Promathia crystal but it gave me request complete so I guess I'm good lolpoor Lilisette
>>577530424Nevermind, it just spawned, and Holy shit you're right >>577530798 i had 3 ninjas + 1 mage and i wasted more turns muting him than last week.It also removes the Voice Thief randomly
>>577530798I think the resistance is the same but he can clear it more aggressively. He may also have less health, I only used 1 SP potion on yuzu for the second clear compared to 3 originally. He also only had 1 turn on the frontline for stabbing.
Is 5 turns the shortest you can clear the arch shadow lord?>turn 1: trigger the implosion cutscene and prepare umbral slash, use umbral slash>turn 2: phys immune - basic attack and prep silence or gigaslash>turn 3: phys immune - use skill, then swap>turn 4: magic immune - trigger implosion phase>turn 5: dies to any 1k hit
>>577537214I manage to do it in 3 turns regularly, Asha hitting for 2k whit the staff helps
>>577537542I have Asha and Yekat but they don't seem to be able to put out enough damage in the phys immune phase to trigger implosion. He still has around 20k health once he switches to magic immunity.>Asha Tartarus for 1500>Yekat migal 5 for 1200>MC MoF for 700>Lana MoF for 800But they are applying Phys buffs instead of mental unity to themselves on turn 1.
>>577537542This is the team, love that Kagero always finish off the Shadow Lord whit his Return, seems that he gains more Vengeance based on the amount of damage he takes
>>577538024i only buff Asha whit Mental Unity, and the rest of the team go Bananas on the first turnalso i gave Kagero, Gerulf and Yuzu scrolls to pretend to do some damage while the boss is Phys immune.
>>577538531My mental unity attempt>Asha 2k>Yekat 2k>Mc 1.8k>Lana 1k>Anemone healing>Yuzu 0 damageI was unable to skip the second turn of the phys immune phase. I'm pretty sure he will always take those two turns to switch back to magic immunity.
Post play time and progression. Stuck on wolves.
>>577539061this is my first turn for reference:>Kagero 3.2k DTS>Camille eddying the back (Yuzu make him mad)>Asha Mental Unity>Yuzu around 6.5k / 7k (we truly need a Battle Log, hard to count properly yuzu damage)>Mc 2k whit Crescent>Gerulf 5k Ragnarok
https://x.com/Nighcisa/status/2088103332925845626>Tenzen can use his enrage skill chain here too inflicting instant death on your entire party SOVL.
>>577540348When he does linked howl you have to either burst him to death in one shot or kill all the other wolves before killing him.
>>577540348im a phonefag, it says im at 204,44 hoursgoning for 2nd Godefroi, but put on hold for FF
>>577540348Cleared the 2nd lap of A4, I did play a bit on phone before the steam version came out though so the number isn't completely accurate.
>>577540348>347 hours>first A4 harken>150 of those 347 have probably been put in since the collab started
Sex with my waterbender tribe gorilla
I assumed grinding the event would be the fastest levels for MC, but I feel like it fucking sucks. I'm getting like literally 2% of a level per pack and that's the ones with demons. When I run into a little goblin or whatever it's more like half of one percent
>>577544708is the denisity that matters, there's a truckload of enemies on the castle
Giga Shadowlord paralyzes and fears my whole team every couple turnsWhat's the best move here
>>577518374I had to finish A3 just to get copper exam offered to me
>>577545156Healer incest or priest makalki. Or just killing it faster.
>>577545471>Healer incestBut I’m not related to any of the healers…
>>577545621That's what you think. Now kiss your sister(elf) or sister(fairy).
What should I put in the last slot? I have a mage there currently but I feel like they're not doing much. More Ninja maybe? I could do ranger but I just really don't feel excited about the class. Knights are cool as shit though and tanking is my favorite so that stays.
>>577548350For farming a ninja or ranger, for bossing a healer or a priest.
>dwarf>they're like 6 feet tallwtf
>>577550560They're dwarf giants.
holy shit the doll boss in A3 completely blew out my ass.
Skelly is my broHe always fills my procurement requests. I love you Skelly!
>>577552459swo your healer?
>the gold costs to enhance from +15 to +20I only have 300k...
>>577552916I don't have the elf girl and I'm saving gems for anni. I wish I could borrow other player's characters.
>>577553029So don't do it yet.I'm mostly sure the game is balanced around the assumption most people are running +10~+15 equipment.
Is the Scourge skill on the relic sword good?
>>577553670It is heavy attack lvl 6 that costs 3 extra SP but also applies a nice surety buff to self, which I would consider worth the 3 extra SP, but also heavy attack 6 is already just so much SP that the use cases are kinda few
My alt Chloe with the relic GS is insane
>>577552459Yeah, she is a bitch. Was even worse before the 2h buff, imagine trying to fight her with 1h swords.
gone through another 400 pickaxes todayno fas or lfas in sight>best thing outta the wall today was a fucking RES 5-7 refinement stone
I may actually play FFXI after this collab when I have time, seems like a soulful bit of fun could be had and it sounded like they were extending the free trial for new players or something?When does the mask expire?
>>577552459She has so little health that with decent gear and especially the relic weapons you can kill her in like two rounds of everybody getting to hit her.It's just the confusion and evasion that keeps that from happening. That is to say, at a certain point you can just say "fuck it" and make a sprint for the end of the fight with your strongest swings even though this guy is low on health and that guy is charmed or whatever.
you didn't neglect your bounties because of the collab did you....
>>577556523
>>577557247You just log in and get it or is there some quest or something?
>>577553670made my benis help kill the cyclops even faster. surety buff is great.
>>577553670It's good for the buff but not really something you spam.
>>577557146I have been, but luckily I finished the relics I wanted thanks to John Drecom's generous update this week. Ready to go next week.
God, he is already back!3rd floor, said fuck it, lets try it whit my farming team, and oh boy what a pain.Should have sticked whit Asha, her improved debuff chance really help to sleep the little tomlnberries.
>>577556301
>>577557383You just log in and you have it in your inventory
>>577559063does this cockknocker actually drop anything good? i don't want to tear myself away from the B1F junk farm, it's too good to interrupt>>577559350haha
>>577559527it seem to drop a guaranteed Bracalet of Hatred, at least i got them in both fights.
>>577559350i won't stop until i hit 1 fas
>>577545296That's weird.All i had to do was to go back to the royal capital the moment mc was 60
>>577559453NiceIs there a hood combo to complete the fit?
>>577562716No.FFXI doesn't have that sort of technology.
Grasslands would've been perfect for an actual "defend the carriage" type game mode where you see the carriage moving along. Could add mounts too.
>>577563613>mountswhy would a blobber need mounts
>>577563884mount gacha to fund the next collab
>>577564082>next collab>Wizardry x Uma Musume
>>577563884Beastslaves are very versatile.
are there 2 crystals to pick up in zone 5 or just 1?
>bridge harken isn't a greater harken so you move slowly on the later floorsrREEEEEEEEEE
>>577563580Man, fuck that, it looks like shit without a hood
>>577566381two
>>577567829>hood weebsmdh
I think I was too late in the last thread. Does using the golden pickaxe result in better drops?
should I inherit skills onto prishe or are her basic skills fine for ramping?
Is there a solid way to turn MC to neutral? I kinda regret making him a goodfag
>>577568437Ambush enemies when randomly prompted.
>>577568193nope, you just get x3 of whatever you'd get instead
>>577568342Basic attacks count for skillchain boost? I thought you had to use skills.
>>577568437Do evil mean things until it changes.
>>577568014>bald weebanon...
>>577568342I don't have her but I see everyone putting Threefold Mist (alt Rinne) on her and saying she gets more stacks for hitting AE with it
>>577568880Seems like it's ideal to go back and forth between basics and skillsAlso her basic attacks give her an ASPD self-buff
So if I merge a character with their alt version, I can switch between skins and not have to level up the character again right? Because I really hate Lanavaille's green outfit
are any of the event bondmates good?
>>577571346Yeah>green outfitDoes it have anything to do with the hair?
>>577571705no, the event bondmates are hard stuck on the collab units.
>>577571346
>>577571828I never noticed the shackles on her neckweird
she's so cute
>>577497490>All male no lego partyholy sovl
what should i alter on the relic shield? MDEF% to DEF?
So should I try to finish the collab or get started on the third abyss? I have been stalling on the third abyss for a while now.
>>577497490Soulful Maskettahomo...
>>577574718Finish story, then third abyss, then come back to grind relic.
>>577574718Probably clear the first floor of A3, then do the collab dungeon for all the good ebonsteel junk. The collab is much shorter than an abyss.
damn reinforcement is expensive
all the ffxi characters have buttholes
>Have to wait for trades for relic matspain...
It it me or do the more expensive pack have less value?
All legendary characters mostly used for food unless you're a whale? Every time I watch some videos I've noticed they mostly have high discipline normal adventures in their parties with 1-2 legendaries.
>>577577486
>>577578065There's no option to transfer inherits to another, so the more you invest in a character, the harder it is to move to a new one.
>petrify chest traps are a thing
>race monster to the teleport >get there at the same time>battle ensues>instantly teleport after battle>chest drops where the teleport was>open it>bibi is teleported across the map to the chest>game frozenretarting teleported the chest to my location
mining should be added to other areas desu
>>577578382Where are her clothes!?
>The Shadow Lord prepares something something silence>farts>my front row dies???????????????????
>>577588118"Silence" is the trigger for implosion on the second loop. He does implosion and an -aja spell in the same turn that can 2-tap a row if you didn't buff yourself."Silence" after "preparing implosion" on the third loop means you fucked up, dealt too much damage, and he is now unkillable.
How often should you do relicbrew farming? I haven't done any since the relic month but needed a snowclops for Prishe. I immediately found 3 relic snowclops in the first 3 loops, with 2 relic drops.
>>577589543Is there a guide on the Giga 3rd loop Chadowlord somewhere?He rocked my shit so I just went back to relic farming instead
>>577591221>Phase 1: hit him until the ally cutscene happens>Phase 2: hit him until prepping umbral slash. Use healer paralysis incense. Activates Phys immunity after umbral slash.>Phase 3: Starts Phys immune. Switches to magic immune after Giga slash or swath of silence after two turns. This phase can be really short or take really long, might depend on how much damage you do during each immunity form.>Phase 4: prepping implosion. Immediately stop dealing damage and fully heal party.>Phase 5: after implosion, he has around 1k HP left before he dies
>>577591637Thanks, blessings of Agora be upon you
>>577590773Normally you shouldn't do it, that's for ojiisan no lifers. The relic event was the only time it was worth it. It's basically the last thing you should do. Do you have god tier Hunting gear for your frontline? God Chainmails? If not then you're wasting your time relic farming.
>>577583470https://x.com/i/status/2088261487567704426Like this?
>>577593461A single 4* relic for each slot is still pretty good for each fresh character. I won't turn down the free +8 att/acc from the cyclops or +6 att/3sur from a snowclops. A second relicbrew gives an additional +2 attack.Those are quicker to pick up than trying to find a new 4* purple with an additional attack blessing, or a higher discipline.
>>577594523chest mini game didn't start and I couldn't see her since there was no path
its nyover
>>577590773You'll go insane trying to farm relics, just treat them as side upgrade you gradually accumulate over time. Also check the slag exchange every week and try to buy rare 4*s if you have enough slag.If you had to farm though, abyss 3 area 10 is one of the best. 5* cyclops relics and slags drop at x50 instead of the usual 20. Its only really worth doing if you have a lvl 70 team that can full-auto all the sentries between the harken and fountain though.
>>577605874Bibi is so perfect.
I wanna make my Iroha the strongest she can be, she's one of my fave ffxi girlies, i got her weapon and armourWhat are some must-have inherits
What gear do I farm for in a4? Just general silver equipments?
>>577607172sanctuary's blessing (a2 book)Unyielding Will to Fight (eulalia potential)Wisdom of Truth (adam)Way of The Knight (alex potential)Eyes That Know The Future (shelirionach)as many sur/atk/hp/aspd inherits as you canas many Way of The Warrior as you canarmsmanship (a4 book)Honed Ability (bounty book)
>Go to village>put 5 gold pickaxes into everyones inventory>go to Z5>check for ore behind me>mine until all pickaxes break>repeatThat has been my wizardry life for like 3 days now since I finished the relics, zero lfas or fas so far but I don't think I will ever have to look at a Den for ore again after this event
>>577607359The mines so you can be SURgod and get a 4 Star +20 Chainmail with +35 Surety on one piece of equipment.
>>577607769>do the mines have a higher chance for chainmail?
I'm going to be really mad if we missed out on Summer alts due to Final Faggotry.
>>577608147
>>577607898It has the highest rate of the junk with the best odds of chainmail.
>>577610657Masketta man (female)…
>>577608528What am I reading?
>>577612616
>>577612908Grill master Gerluf and Beach babe Amelia!
Thoughts on what we have seen of A5 so far? It will be the first true "post-launch" dungeon as A3 and A4 was already in the prelaunch trailer."Prison" dungeon sounds like it could be an interesting concept. Infiltrate the place as a prisoner, craft make-shift weapons, planning escape, break out and come back with your full party to wreck havoc, etc. It could be a fun back to basic interlude.
>>577607769How about other parts? Any notable gear?
>>577613347What about "mining" walls to escape from cells or to create new paths?
>>5776134184-6 has ninjers as rare spawns for BiS Katana and Ninja shit.Post mines has something but I don’t remember what.
>>577613347Masketta gets arrested (again) for shit he didn't do... but this time you discover the one making that happen all this time is a GWO...
>>577613347I'd like them to play around with wheeling and make it more puzzle likelike you can get "trapped" inside a loop since you have to figure out the knowledge yourself and cant simply brute force everything
how do i kill this nigga?he's got so much HP and montino doesn't silence the elementals
>>577615820This is why the majority of people just don't fuck with NMs and just spam 8pack demons. I'm one of the retards who plays "wrong" and uses a Knight and I don't think I've struggled with any of the NMs and actually leave pretty much every fight at full health. Slow and steady baby. The flip side of that is though I don't really struggle with the 8packs, my ability to farm them is probably half the speed of some people in this thread.
>>577616376i dont even know what an 8 pack is i'm still like in the 3rd floor
>>577613979This and you have to do a prison break with your adventurers.Something to require more than your top 5. Multiple parties need to do objectives at once to allow you to escape + your puzzle wheel thing you will create a grand brickening.>Masketta this is the 37th time you sent the beastwoman party down rape row and they all got raped...
>>577615820Cortu?
>>577615820I focused on the demon and used Cortu to mitigate damage. If you kill the elementals he resummons them.
>>577618097>>577619349i decided to just avoid the guy for now because i only brought 1 mage that can heal and 5 DPSi thought i could kill him before he does anything but i know now that is not the case
>purple 4 star hunting gloves with shit lines>drop 9 LFAS hoping for any sort of attack roll>get SHITI’m g0nNa wArP…!
>>577616376>Slow and steady baby.anon, you're suppose to kill it fast otherwise your farming will be at a snail's pace, unless you're a yuzulet...
With all the light weapon junk we get, I wonder how strong a full Adam/Emil light weakening team is? The downside is ebonsteel-only and no advanced weapons and an elf mage, but you do make ranger Yuzu another 20% stronger (if I'm remembering the weakening skill correctly)
>>577615820yuzu
>>577621242Honestly I don't think it'd be worth for pretty much anyone but Prishe. Adam behind her casting light weakening for big buffed auroral might be funny, but with her in proper silver equipment.
>>577615820Kill one of the elementals and remove the buffs from the other. He wont summon more but he will still astral flow the remaining elemental after a few turns.
Alice or Yekaterina? I don't have an Evil backrow so no damage from Alice but long buffs are nice. On the other hand ambushes do suck.
>>577624891alice
>>577624891The sexo lonely desperate widow that prances around in a bikini.
>>577624891Alice is the best Priest-Mage currently in the game. Yekaterina is the second best Mage-Priest after her.
>>577626194>the best (thing that was dumpstered and rendered entirely useless by Healer with a Porto inherit)
>>577626194I thought the sleepy elf was also good.
>>577627803Sheli is the 3rd
>>577627803sheli is 2nd, the guy is just a yeka simp
>>577626430who the fuck has porto on a healer? everyone who isnt retarded is waiting for their ccs first.
>>577630401People that forget that porto has a scroll in the shop
>>577583470>>577605874bibi summer alt soon. it's her turn.
>>577468758holy kek
What are they doing? They are just standing there like that...
>>577632307
>>577632307> what A5 prison showers enemies will look like while waiting for masketta to drop the soap
>>577630275>alt with a bazillion hp, anti-undead, anti-ambush, easy to disciplinevs>inherit fodderSheli's only better if you're a whale
>>577607642>I don't think I will ever have to look at a Den for ore again after this eventwhat does everyone's ore stash look like after this event?
>>577634037nta, I've been upgrading nonstop, I keep finding decent 4* gear in the collab down about 5mI've only been doing dispatches, already had a big stash
>>577468758>extra 10% from bothmetacuck and neutral fag? yikes
>>577634037Still no FAS from mining...
Where do you even get the fragments if not in trading?
>>5776355298x demons and NMs, IF you've progressed enough outside of collab via requests / activating Well of the Mind lanterns / abyss progress / exams etc for it to pile up enough on your hidden rep score to trigger the next tier of loot in events like this
>>577635852I barely touched A2 but I am iron gradeGuess I got to stockpile all that junk so I can activate it at A4 to get silver?
>>577636129Doesn't work like thatYou'll need to be a lot farther than that to trigger Fragments too
>>577635510holy shit
>>577634037never had much of a stash to begin withbeen mining a week straight about 300+ pickaxes a dayhit 1 LFAS
>>577630628What shop?Also the elf CC is mage and fairy priest.
>>577632958>yekek needs an alt to even remotely catch up to sheli when she doesn;'t have her own alt yet.>doesn't know sheli will be on the perm banner soonoh no no no,
>>577638887>more inherit foddercool
>>577639162yes, yeka is inherit fodder.
I can't stop rolling for XI! Are the $10 packs going to be refreshed?
>>577641143200 pulls on a collab banner cost like $400 usd now if you use japanese pricesthat is insane to me i would rather be a f2pag loser forever than spend 400 bucks on a character only for said character to be discipline 3-5 and not even maxed
>>577641143Very unlikely
MC is either a dude or a very flat girl because I don't see any knockers when I attack.
>>577638736Item shop. Consumable scrolls you need to refill after every fight. They stack with porto.
>>577641408Yeah, I really can't imagine paying full price for rolls. I bought 50 bucks of collab scrolls, but that got me like 43 pulls. I'd spend the $400 if I could keep the dollar per summon around there, pick up an extra 350 pulls. It's just the very concept of paying $25 for one multi pull disgusts me.
>>577642378Make sure to subscribe to generous JD's star passport, heaven passport, and monthly mission pass if you want discounted org for pulls.
>>577642039Masketta is a manlet
>>577630628Delay reduction also seems to have a hard cap around Porto Lv1 and Arboris Astral Break after the Ninja skill nerf which is in the 60-70% range.
Is there a way to change my alignment? My entire party is evil women safe for Benis and I'm good. I want savia to like me.
>>577643349You don't need to change alignment for that. Just use her more.
>>577643349alignment doesn't matter if you want characters to like you, just takes a bit longer
>Good man>Evil Beastfolk womanName a more iconic duo
is there a way to remove the 60 fps cap on the PC version?
where I can read translated Wiz Daphne manga?
>>577643349benis
>>577644925Have they reached the Scorpioness miniboss in the manga yet?
>>577641408or spending 400 usd on a character that's bricked(yoizou).....
how does % work in this game, does it calc before flat, after flat, off your base value?My alice has a round 100 ASPD right now without a ring equipped, for referenceI'm wondering if I should alter flat ASPD or ASPD% on this
So will the collab characters come back when the event ends? Feels like they might be bricks if they don't unless you fully disciple them now.
>Go back to A1 >Zeid is slower than even the level 30 slimesFucking lmao. I like Zeid. Things like Ground Strike or Souleater into Drastic Strike do big satisfying damage and he stays in my party. Just know that anyone that makes any effort trying to hope he might not be slower than a snail is wasting their time and resources.
>>577647206They have said they'd like to rerun and expand upon the event, but that'll be next summer if SE lets them and we are not seeing them at all until that point.
>>577647312Tri-proto!
>>577646987Off the character base stats. Never alter %. Late alters usually go to flat aspd or surety.You may consider att% for characters like Prishe at lvl 80, her class seems to be 1.5x str and she has 100+ str.
>>577647870prishe's str class mod is only 1.1
>>577648140What about Zied? Where are the start weights?
>>577647312zeid is just a dwarf on roids, anon. Not much you can do with his speed at this point.
>>577647870I see, so it's more like if you get ASPD% instead of ASPD you keep it because its still something but generally not worth. Thank you
>>577647312I just checked his trial stats. He has 25 spd worth 19 aspd which gives him a 0.75 class multiplier. His spd starts lower than a knight's but you can probably get him up to 100aspd with enough light armor.
>>577648354zeid's str mod is 1.35spd is 0.75
If I have d2 prishe, d1 iroha, no Zeid, and one additional free bone prishe: what is the best use of 100 marks and the selector? Arboris inherit and d3 prishe?Assuming I get nothing from next week's 3 free bones.
>>577651141Break out your credit card.
>>577651141Yes, Arboris is the best selector pick. If you don't like him as a unit, give his skill to Alice or some other support character.
>>577651141Personally? I'd grab and then D1 Zeid. For all you know sometime in the next year there's going to be a light type magical being boss or some shit. But then, if you had Zeid and were missing Iroha I'd encourage you to grab her in case we run into a wind demon. I just think a certain premium should be given to the idea of the more limited availability.
>>577652343I have him on MC already, pulled him with a Cuisinart on a previous bundle. Great damage/support skill.>>577652451I have d0 Sam Gillion for dark attacks. And Lana+Debra as my frontline fat fucks. >>577651364I already bought the 33 purple bones, heaven pass, and monthly pass during the collab. What else am I supposed to be buying?
>>577652451Sir, your Godefroi?
>>577654191Non-typed greater warped one who uses untyped and light magic.King tonberry is the only light boss.
quest to get the water god statue partscan't repair fountains yeti am very upset
>>577656268No worries all you get is a stupid bitch that'll randomly show up to heal you afterwards
So will they ever do anything to fix Fortitude?
Is this a good roll?
>>577657701You're implying it's broken somehow
>>577658023The best possible SUR, but just about the weakest for both attack rolls. Who gives a shit about eva, you are going to alter that.
>>577658093I don't like seeing 90 and the fact I bricked my Lana to be a 90 forever.
No Eulalia summer skin? I'm dissapointed.
>>577658717They will add a way to increase fortitude at 2nd ani. Will cost dupes. New cap is 200.Enemies can now do direct fortitude damage.
I guess the collab mining/farming is a good time to start working on trait bondmatesjust trying to plan a biteveryone wants SPD, fighters want STR, do samurais and ninjas also want STR?does anyone want a IQ bondmate?I don't have a ranger leveled but I assume making one DEX bond would be a good idea too?what are you gwos using?
>>577660568Chest openers want dex/IQ until you get really high inherit levels and the basalmo bondmate.Just keep making str and SPD bondmates so that you don't need to use incense when you swap party members.
>Doing monthly gwo loop>Prishe and Iroha immediately get their hearts>Anemone still hasn't unlocked the second lore pageDamn brat. I still haven't been able to unlock Adam's quest either but I rarely use him.
>>577661505Please be patient, she has autism.
>>577661997I'll be waiting on her. At least I now have Adam's quest from visiting the tavern.
>>577661505You gotta put in work for her. She literally starts with lower trust and has a penalty for gaining trust.
I didn't know level 1 quickdraw could hit for this much damage. The snowclops even had a defense buff.
dark benis
>>577663561remove the corset and her fat belly spills out
How much accuracy do i need in a4? Seems like nearly all my attacks missed
>>577658717Just Merge 100 Fort WLana and enjoy the extra stats you got from leveling a 90 Fort character
>>577665282At least 150, ideally closer to 200.
Is it wroth trying to get HA3 on fighters or does ESS+FPS make it obsolete?
i haven't reversed any of the junk i've collected in the collab.....
>>577667137The latter
>>577665282150, but remember to use Batilgref/Katino/Dalto. People like to shit on mages for doing no damage but its one of the best classes for enabling damage especially in A4.
what's the most popular limited inherit to use scrolls on?
>>577667137ess/poas, BUTif ur still using sword and board in this day and age(probably because you need sur/acc/aspd on shield or maybe ur rp'ing) then it's alright, but dts2 is likely better
>>577668991Probably hue3 if you don't literally mean as an inherit
>>577668991Thousand Hue
>>577668991I'm here to shill moonlit pool. it's not as popular as thousand hue but you will not regret it.
>>577669428trying to brick gwos....
>>577663202What's your attack/magic stat? Is quickdraw damage based on how much damage you would've taken or something?
>>577668991Flash 3, flash 3, hue 3, lahalito 2 Asha. Alt Rinne mist 3 is not too bad. Madalto 2 if freeze is ever relevant again.Save up for agora 5 on MC.
>>577643349Yea, when you get the choice choose ambush, there are also a few other things like killing your party member to become a ninjaI too started as a goodkek but now I am an evil chud with a party of evil beastfolk women
>>577635510Jesus christ how long have you been in the mining loop
>>577673657200 Ouroboros Ore6 LFAS0 FAS
>>577634037No LFAS or FAS so far, maybe 700 gold pickaxes deep or something
Any reason to open collab junk yet? I have a ton accumulated and sure it might have good 4 star silver stuff in it but I cannot be bothered doing inventory management at the moment and the game does not even let me enter the castle if my inventory is full
>>577674081No, opening junk is time spent not accumulating junk
>>577674081i open the light shit and expulsion shit when they hit like 400 and just full send them into the extract, i only check purple 4 star gearsilver junk pile will be on hold until after collab
>>577674081I've gotten 0 FAS/LFAS from mining but 3 LFAS from extracting. Also some perfectly rolled 4* purple light gear so I'd say its worth it.
>>577670218NTA, but with 710 Atk+Mag and lana buff my mc was doing around that much damage(with surety ofc) so around there, might even be around 800 combined stat to get that damage without extra buffs
killing the 8 demons only gives me 3 attensations and 0 fragmentswill the next grade make them start dropping fragments?
I have staff complete, and almost 2h sword done.I was thinking Katana or maybe 1h sword for my last relic. I don't really use anyone who uses either weapon, but I feel like the katana 20% atk down is really good?
>>577680589I'd build the katana in case you ever feel like rolling with a samurai. good katanas are a pain in the ass to get
hop on xi, gwos
>>577680589katana and bow definitely worth doing
>>577680306It's some arcane combination of requests done / abyss progress / exam progress / Well of the Mind Lanterns used (not just picked up but used in MC's skill tree)
You know I put it off for so long, but I beat that last quest for the first abyss. I was really stupid and didn't bring a Priest or any kind of healer. Yekatarina died, but she got brought back to life for free so it's okay.
>>577684256the side quests in A1 and A2 were so hard that i just stopped doing them until I was at least 10 levels above the area. I think they changed it but im still traumatized.
stop standing around and move
>buying 99 gold pickaxes
Are IVs just a single bonus stat or does it increase with levels?
Managed to kill the tonberry with 0 SP potions used and no stabs at all. Rinne is somewhat useful for poking the summons, and Gillion is probably getting benched for Yrsa next time to see if first arrow can be applied.Dark bamboo splitter is cool, but he only gets one use before the king unbinds himself from the first voice steal and refuses to be spellbound for the rest of the fight.>>577685443+1 every ten levels, so it currently gives +8 at lvl 70
Fucking chainmail lmao. Why aren't there more gear items worth farming?
>>577686227If I understand correctly, IVs just give you additional stats and don't gimp another stat right?
>>577686820i don't think the bonuses are very big. like +5 str would be the only important one as far as lvl 70.
>>577686227I still havent seen a tonberry king but I triggered the cutscene before the patchhow do I encounter it
>>577686781+20 surety on any chestpiece is good enough. You don't need to specifically hunt chainmail.>>577687063Progress to just before the shadowlord fight, then go to where you triggered the tonberry king cutscene before and you can immediately fight him.I don't know the trigger for respawns after that, maybe daily?
Is there going to be more missions after I finish this one or something? It doesn't look like the next mission will finish the pass but ive done everything
And I have so many extra fragments it's insane
>free speed boon 5 bp iroha from supply bone>already chose iroha from the selector with pie boon 7 bpi refuse to level her again
>>577686781Your direbird hat? Your 3x aspd hunting boots?
Prishe status? best or meme?
did they nerf 8 demons? havent gotten a single gold chest with frags/ats since the update
>>577688015Your attestations are a bit lacking>>577688367I would say meme. It is hard to compete with fighter or samurai for raw damage. Although I haven't levelled asuran on mine yet.
>>577688067its probably not worth it anyways, assuming you went all in on spd with both AND she has a 0.9 spd - aspd rate, could be lower, you would only be between 3-5 aspd slowerthe pie from the pie boon may or may not be of equal or greater value with her kit, idk but you are right not to level another
>>577688441you rolled in the top(bottom?) 0.00001% to get that luck, go get a lottery ticket next
>>577688769can you post for all 3 new classes? I can't find it on the wiki.
when you remove a relicbrew, you lose all the exp you put in it?
>>577689294You keep the xp, but you need a new copy of the relicbrew to reactivate it.So give your MC all the relic aids then cut them out.
>>577688769yea i put all points into speed. unless the selector bones are gimped like the free camille was i'm not gonna level her again.
>>577689294Not if you have them bottle it after purging
>>577687938For F2P there's basically no reward anyway, just a tiny amount of gil, and if you bought the pass to get the other rewards you'd autocomplete it from the greyed out points activating
>>577689112I should have been more clear on what I was assumingonly thief / ninja have a 1she gets poise so I would assume hers will be similar to fighter and get a 0.9 however that doesn't mean drecom couldn't do something different and give her a lower value
how good is this compared to relic katanya?
>>577690343Pretty bad. Its starting blessings are the same as your +20 ones.
>>577690343from the wikilooks like a big enough gap that finding some acc gear would be worth it
>>577690343I thought Iarumas just wanted Snow Oni Yoto anyway
>>577690856im not farming that
>>577689472you reminded me relicbrews are a thing so I went checking and I have enough to lv5 bunny and hobgobbo just by having autistically grinded this collab
>>577690856Do you know how painful it is to farm yotos?
What's the best way to farm A4 ninjas?
I've keep forgetting to askhow is the BTDE gwo holding up now that Prishe showed up and we're probably not getting another dark "elf" anytime soon?
>>577690856>>577691045He only needs a +0 snow yoto for dalto because you are not attempting spell damage with a samurai.The oni yoto odachi is the one you want as +20.
>>577692490bro her tits are massive but inverted;
Which "evil" adventurer is actually sadistic? Like they actually derive pleasure from cruelty?>RinneMurder autism but kinda bored of it, plus she only kills because she's told to. >AliceDid some heinous shit but doesn't actually believe that they are cruel>GalbadusDid some tomfoolery but not overall sadistic.
>>577691180kill everything on floors 4-6 is how i do it
>>577693259look up Raffaello and report back
>>577691180wheel irl to before the infinite respawn exploit was patched or become a macrofag
>>577693259benis
>>577693259Arisu was gobbed to death and has learned her lesson!
So mining is by far the most worthwhile thing I should be doing in the FFXI collab right?When I'm not working on my Relics, that is.
Does Iroha want Div on her spear?
>>577701064No, but it isn't an entirely wasted blessing.
>>577693259Galbadus seems like a nice enough guy to me. During the festival event (I forget what it was called) he ended up looking after a bunch of kids after they gathered around to meet the funny lion man. He's perfectly rational and calm when not being tempted with regicide.Raphaelo on the other hand- there is a man I would not entrust my kids to.
>>577700135If you are a new fag who needs a ton of ores for upgrading equipment.FAS rates seems so ass that you're better off grinding equipment as per normal.
>>577693259Kagero>GIVE ME THE HEADS OF YOU!>WHICH HEAD SHOULD I TAKE?>"ONE HEAD" when you spot a friendly npc
>>577702121THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!
>>577693259Gerulf is funny because he's genuinely one of the most nice and thankful characters towards you at the end of his unique quest, evil my ass.
>>577705982>called him LORD GERULF during his quest>he gets pissed and asks to stop embarrassing him>this tanks his trust
you gwos did claim your weekly free gems right?
What's the method to reset Guarda? It's been over a month and fresh restarts don't get the bone in the Catacombs to appear and still make the Knight's Cloak turn to dust. I don't have this problem for A2... I've changed routes every single time too.
>>577709096if you want to reset for specific abysses you need to reset to a3 start and then wheel to a3 end, or 2nd half of a3 if the bone is coded to be limited to be only accessible while you are doing the abysssame goes for abyss 2,4,1,etc
C108 is happening right nyaow...
Alter > Fas/lfas > enhance > refineThis is correct order of action for relic weapons?
>>577718936give it a real think retard
>>577718936yes, don't LFAS though, it's pointless since the stats are fixed. a FAS will add an enhancement bonus so some people do that.
>>577721295>>577718936Fuck I just woke up, FAS first if you're going to otherwise it resets your alter.
where can I exchange these? these are for making weapons right? asking for a friend
>>577709194I did that and the bone still doesn't respawn. Guess I'll just restart, go to a node, check then restart again and check another node until it does. Honestly mostly want it for the Cloak and Morgus ring really. It's so tedious, everything in the other abysses spawns perfectly...
>>577716463her exposed pale sun bleached anus alt will release soon
>>577721295>>577721429Got it, thank you for help.
>>577721952dont fight to answer me, guys
>>577724251at the tavern.https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/events/ffxi-fantasy-castle-of-deepest-dark/ffxi-fantasy-castle-of-deepest-dark-guide/
Which $115 bone pack has best value?
>>577724571They’re all roughly the same, just 50 boners for a given character.Gacha equipment gambling depends on how far you are and which character you like best.
>>577724571you are out of your mind to pay $115 for anything in-game
>>577724371it seems it got bugged. there was no cutescene. I'm in zone 5. the forge is there, but no goblin. what do I do? what is CW-ing?
now that I think about it how do people know if an equipment has locked stats like relics and master rings
>>577726015CW = cursed wheel (found by clicking the event icon)You need to have bought at least 1 relic weapon from the jeweler for the goblin to appear.
>>577726109By checking if everyone has the same lines on it.
>>577726204oh that makes sense.
>>577726172>You need to have bought at least 1 relic weapon from the jeweler for the goblin to appear.I got the goblin now. thats what was missing
benis!
My Lana has arrived!
>>577730339JYK
>>577730339Weird dog...
>>577730339can you take a picture of her being under the horse in a prone position?
>>577731812How about horse riding horse riding Lana instead
>>577732639>putting your childhood friend on the bottomNyo...
Having to manually restock my dispatch slaves with pickaxes fucking sucks.
why does my zeid have so low SP at level 60? i thought sp was determined by how much strength and vitality you have? my zeid has 90 str and 74 vitality which is way more than my other fighters, but he only has 94 sp when my lanavaille has less str and vit but has 131 sp?
>>577737105It's mostly determined by race and class. STR and VIT help give more, but it's not a lot.
Another week, another chance to get a yrsa CC book.
anoter week of nyo nyontents
so uh how are your prishes hitting 100+ STRdid you all pull until STR IV and put like 9 points into STRmine's at 75 at level 59 with 5 points into STR
is gillion just better than zeid in every way
Should I buy Yuzu's ranger book?
>>577738862other way around
>>577738583Yeah. IV is worth 7-8 points.In the end it doesn't matter much. 100 is a very impressive number to look at but it's only 10 points higher than 90.
>>577738887she's very good as a ranger but if you're fine with her as a ninja you don't need to.
This is why many prefer ninja Yuzu
>>577738924really? it just feels like gillion's passive damage increases make him hit harder than zeid. you would have to self buff as zeid to do more damage than base gillion, but it feels so bad to use turns to set up his buffs. that and gillion's aoe attack seems super useful
>>577739006well yeah it's less than that but more I've seen everyone throw around this 100 STR number like its the default she hits at level 70, I'm getting around to leveling her now but mine will be lucky to hit 90 with a STR bondmate on
I had a lengthy break, how the fuck are class changes still so fucking shit after all this time and why are there paid gems only scrolls now, what the fuck are they doing.
>>577739627A lot of them probably also have a STR bondmate.
>>577739627You need the str boon worth +8 str to reach 100 str naturally >>577242445
>>577739761i've been playing for a long time and with all the class change mission events we get as well as the weekly exchange reset i pretty much have every class change, it's not that bad if you play consistently.
To get the skill from the Abyss 2 Quest, do I have to beat Melgina again? Or can I just warp to accept the quest and warp to the end to pretend I completed it?
>>577740105It is annoying when a new CC releases just after one of those events and you have to wait 3 months for the next one.>>577740453Have to warp to round 5 to kill guezen and melgina again.
>>577739380the main problem gillion will always have is that he is still killing himself but if you can make him work just go for it.
>>57773858378 STR with more BP85 STR with better IV92 STR with bondmate105+ once she hits lvl70
What do I do with my duplicate Alice?I'm supposed to inherit her to herself not discipline right?
>>577740536well you don't HAVE to. you can just pay the $30 or whatever for the new books
>>577741731Inherit/skill codex hers to lvl 3 first (2 copies)Then MC gets next inheritThen any other characters that really want it (Yuzu, Yekat)Then lvl 5 on Alice (4 more copies)Then lvl 5 on MC (8 more copies)You can give a few to Alice for discipline if you want a bit more HP.
>>577741731You use it on yourself. She pretty much is a mandatory inherit on anyone that buffs or debuffs. Which is everyone.
I just got this from the free scrolls after already leveling and D3 the one I got when event started. My copy was a boonlet with 5 BP. What do?
>>577742397explode
>>577742397Keep the d3 boonlet. It's too late to do anything else.>>577742353>Which is everyoneNot fighterNot katana samuraiNot rangerNot knightThief only has blood edge as a worthwhile extensionWhich leaves odachi samurai, mage, priest, healer, ninja
>>577742686giving 1 Alice to Shiou to taunt > quickdraw cheese is not a bad idea if you have her
They're going to make it so you can transfer all skills and discipline(if same unit) to someone else in the future right?
>>577742853I think they already would have if they weren't thinking 'I bet whales will pull a lot less trying to get the perfect boon / high skill points if they could just fix it later'At least you have Merge, it's just up in the air if the character will ever get one, so the whales still have to FOMOAlso there's the newly discovered addition of better stat growths (or a higher chance anyway) at 80 Fort, so they go for that too
>>577742686Knights actually can use alice for guard blow or in savias case her entire gimmick
>>577742853Maybe? They said it's going to be easier to add new units to the party in a future update, we don't know what that means.
>>577743386What 80 fort is bonus stat growths?
Was I sleeping or was there no summer skin this summer??
>>577745279Still upcoming. Confirmed.
>>577744210https://www.daphne-checker.com/en/compareIt's a higher chance, 100 Forts can still mog them, and the growth can go into useless stats anyway, but ojisan doesn't work at a black company for his entire life to be second best, okay?
>>577745516It better be Okinawan tan eulalia or I RIOT
>>577743386>better stat growths at 80 Fortis such a meme that not even whales should bother with it. pic is comparison for the top STR IV Prishe at 100, 90 and 80 fort with no BP.
Imagine wanting low fort when it's the only stat in the game that is hard timegated
>>577745651We'll see how sadistic they're feeling. They know how many people either drained their gem savings for XI or have their gem savings locked up for anni. Which means if they release a big time waifu skin, it more or less forces people into the position of swiping the credit card. So either they lean into the squeeze or they release something nice enough to get the whales going and act as an excuse to rerun some other alt styles for people who missed, but generally pretty skippable to let XI and anni big the big events.
>>577745795That's a terrible example, the 80 fort has a whole boon's worth of stats that actually do something over the 100 fort
>>577744097I honestly have extreme issues finding a turn for my knigga to use GB when it actually matters.
>>577746516>that actually do something>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that actually do something
Damn, every time I killed the Arch Shadow Lord someone dies. It's going to get several days before I reach level 5 with Cait Sith.
>>577749227>2 more DEX for ACC/SUR>2 more SPD for ASPD/EVA>3 more LCK for survival inherit procs / follow-ups>vs INT PIE VIT which do shitOjisan would mald over that difference, yes, what is hard to understand for you, anon?
Is there any specific area on the collab to farm fey junk or can I just run around the first area?
>>577749245My Cait Sith said maxed after one kill though?
>>577749245The only time implosion should be getting a kill is if Archie applies fear to all your casters. All his other attacks are very weak on the third loop.Bring a healer for paralysis/fear prevention.
>>577749731Damn a whole 2 ACC, .2 Surety, 2 SPD, 2 EVA, and 1% proc chances.
>>577750764Pretty sure its over twice that on the inherits>>577749779This is my stash from 99% running around the first level
When the body is groomed - so too is the mind.
Are there really no types of junk that give higher rarity equipment? Like "good" junk is all 6% 4*, 6% purple with 0 chance of red or 5 star. Is there no junk that gives those even at awful rates or steps it up to like 10% 4*/purple?
>>577751602Alabaster has the only 5* red, only on steel. The sword fiend drops silver junk with higher 4* purple rates.
Maus o le um, cha cha chaMaus o le um, cha cha cha
is there a ft page or some resource to see what's the best place to farm for certain junk?I've just opened a really good 4* purple ebonsteel light mail so now I need to go find 27 more somewhere
>>577754303https://rates.wizardry.info/daphne/gacha_rates/en/equipments.html
>>577754502oh that's insane, thanks
>>577754727i helped you a lot didn't I?can you suck my dick?
tapjoy...
>>577754996seems a bit excessive
If someone with 80 fort dies, is it impossible to revive them? Or is the same as those with 100 and the additional 20 fort is functionally useless.
>>5777586391-tap revives are almost impossible without the well of the mind perks.80 is probably the same as 100, but lower numbers like 50 vs 70 or 0 vs 10 fortitude will make a difference
>>577758639After the 2nd time you're fucked when it isn't so with 90/100
>>577753939My off-week mage bone was a dud.
What do you have to do for the 2nd part of the collab story? Will it be a big to-do before I can get back to grinding? Kinda just want to finish another relic
>>5777592122nd loop is walking through the castle again looking for 3 mcguffins. 3rd loop is walking through the castle again looking for 6 mcguffins (you may be able to skip all the story and only find the extra 3 items)
>>577759212It's mainly for the bondmates so it depends if you want them maxxed before they leave or not
Actually wait are they even leaving if we keep the castle? Could you just do story / bondmates after they nerf the loot? Damn, I wasted junk farming time...
>>577760790I see, Cait Sith is alright for the collab characters I'd assume?
>>577761040lol, no. She's shit for collab characters and turbo mega ultra shit for anyone else. Maxes out at +8HP, collab characters can get up to 4MP and SP as well. The other 3 bondmates are so much better despite not even being super amazing themselves
>>577756352cant blame a guy for trying
>>577760937They might disable the story portion of the collab and just leave the area? Otherwise it's just straight to a permanent collab like other events after their rerunsI kinda prefer things to just be permanent, removes the fomo a lot of gachas have
doing the 2nd run of abyss 4, can i wheel directly to the cabin or do i have to traverse the whole floor again?
>>577764302Silly me, forgot to say that i have saved Nero and the children in the mines
>see enemy >deliberately walk into enemy >!Ambushed! Cool game
>>577762794oh fucking lol, I thought she was gonna be like the other HP bondmates and give like 20-30 HP
Another 100 pulls and nothing to show for it. I have become one with the warp.
>>577766414
This game doesn't have a pity system right? It's just the traditional spark system?
BTDE gwo found dead
is Fordraig worth doing as a new player?
>>577775398no
>>577775398they did plan to update it in the next weeks by their roadmap, so maybe it will be
?
>>577773832correct
FFXI player here that joined Daphne since the crossover announcement.I made it to A4 and finished a couple of Relic weapons in the collab.Feeling burnt out but your game is honestly pretty great, really glad I downloaded it.
>dumb collab instead of more dwarves and fairies Wake me up when we get back to the quality content please
>>577782205Damn you rushed this game. So what was your favorite part and your current party?
>>577782205benis
>Yuzu asks what kind of drinks everyone likes>Prishe: "You keep yapping your gums, you're gonna get a knuckle sandwich."
is there a spot where tonberrys spawn consistently so i can farm them?
>>577765616
>>577783756No. Easiest spot to check is z5 in the two big rooms
>>577782205>>577782408Helmut 1st kill and Gatekeeper 1st killThose and various moments like running from sentries really had my heartrate up and enjoying the risk.The XI collab itself was also phenomenal, was really impressed with their attention to all the little details and the scope that went into it.I have Flash Benis, Wanderer Lana, Miko Alice, Adam, Summer Yekatarina at Lv70I also have Summer Chloe and Iroha at Lv60.
>everyone's grudge hitting for 1kthanks
>Iroha is obsessed about food too
that wasnt so bad
>>577783424Beasts should know their place!
>You can't just buy SP/MP potionsI get that they are good and valuable items that make runs easier. Their value is not lost on me. Make them cost a gorillion gold, make it so you can only own X number, something. This jumping around the cursed wheel every so much IRL time for them like they are some lore related item is turbo gay.
>>577790946Just grab 'em while you reset for bones
>>577783424>>577790771>Hey, c'mon, some folks just don't mix
This fortitude and IV shit sucks. Pulls are too expensive for this shit. I have one more chance for a spd Zeid from login bonus.
>>577793124>spd Zeid
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