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Rule 1 Edition

>News
Bug fixes: https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=276347
Update on the MvM update: https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=276354

>Official Sites
Blog: https://teamfortress.com/
Wiki: https://wiki.tf/

>Frag With /tf2g/
When: Friday & Saturday Afternoon. Check for posts in the thread or be the one to announce.
tf2g's Official Server: 78.46.128.115:27015 (EU)
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>Resources
FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Svy4uc7t
Mods: https://pastebin.com/8Q6bzADk
Preview Loadouts & Skins: https://loadout.tf/ | https://weapons.tf/ | https://p337.info/tfview
HUDs: https://gamebanana.com/mods/cats/1644 | https://tf2huds.dev/
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Trading: backpack tf | https://trade.tf/ | https://stntrading.eu/ | https://tf2trade.tf/
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Sprays: https://rafradek.github.io/Mishcatt/
Community Server Browsers: https://serverbrowser.tf/ | https://thegabenzone.github.io/truequickplay/#/servers
Creators Leaks: https://archive.is/GeYbE
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>Competitive
News & Events: https://teamfortress.tv/
Lobbies & Mixes: https://tf2center.com/ | https://pastebin.com/vNTDF4eL
Leagues: https://pastebin.com/UJ9sDAdq

>Previous Thread
>>576948117
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>>577453892
engie plaps
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>>577453892
inb4 the tranny schizo spams xer steam group
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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EXCUSE ME, I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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SCOUT! You better not be ordering Doordash while we capture this point!
But Soldier...they got the loaded wings!
LOADED WINGS?!
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>>577453190
>only when he plays
Not exactly.
Also me and others got banned for cunny sprays, and there's literal pronoun faggots in mod positions for months now being no fun faggots everytime the server is up.
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*hits u with the fireball spell*
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>>577454241
TF2 it were a F2P mobile shooter that supports itself with ingame product placement, advertisements and paid advantages.
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i got a kill with the pomson
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>>577454548
baby making sex with hex

>>577454835
why's she sucking an ear instead of my dick
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>>577454241
Many will enter, few will leave... heh heh heh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPeEJVACQXg
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Did Zesty win yet?
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https://www.teamfortress.tv/66616/hypothetical-what-if-gunboats-for-free
>What if the biggest crutch in the game was inherently part of the class?
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>>577455061
right after I finish dumping cum in honey (never)
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>>577454394
>cunny sprays
thats kind of funny considering its Zesty but I remember Zesty announcing they intend to be stricter in his servers. surprised you got banned for good off a first offense though
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>>577455184
nowhere is sacred
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>>577455491
/v/an is at least. someone should really make a Furry Pound for weebs already (in america)
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>>577455637
cute pyro
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>>577455184
It wasn't even a true flat loli nor a nsfw pic. Really sad state of affairs for the community browser.
now it's party/v/an and kogasa only since they're the only based servers not dead.
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My favourite class is the Sniper, thanks and have fun.
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>>577455637
Being a weeb is cringe.
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>>577456154
>kogasa
not populated enough for me often enough but i join when i can. can you send the spray?
>>577456901
true but so is being a furry. put both groups in their own boxes.
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Team Fabulous 2 is pigshit.
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>>577456950
bro what is that link
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>>577456950
shit made me gag
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>>577455637
>homewrecker
this pyro is in dire need of backshot correction
>>577456154
what was the image?
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>>577453892
Waow oppa gangnum style olivia, as you like to say hahah; thanks for always being online to make these awesome threads girl, you freaking rock and the tf2 community will suffer a great loss when you go away... oh yeah, you forgot your steam group! https://steamcommunity.com/groups/TransFurtress2
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>>577456950
>these are the ppl shitting on anime/waifu posters
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>>577457006
I change sprays every round so I'm not sure which one nuked me especifically.
This was one of them.
>>577457327
oppai and kyojiri
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>577457362
fake schizo repost larp
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>>577457738
solid spray. i remember someone in the furry pound was freaking out about loli miku spray, was kind of crazy considering what furry sprays are common there.
>pic unrelated
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>>577457006
>>577458683
baby making sex with sentries and migu

>>577457738
built for paizuri
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>>577458683
cute migu
>i remember someone in the furry pound was freaking out about loli miku spray, was kind of crazy considering what furry sprays are common there.
rules for thee, not for me
they mostly only allow their type of degeneracy, no fun unless you're a inflation/diaper furfaggot
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>>577457738
at that point it's a shortstack, what a bunch of literal and figurative faggots
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>>577459038
considering i've seen and heard them paste and talk about cubshit, i am not surprised
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>>577459185
granted the red backpack is a dead giveaway sadly
>>577459038
very true
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>>577456901
>>577457025
So true, brothers
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>>577454083
>>577453892
Why did you forget your steam group?
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>>577459474
eh, a backpack is a backpack, I doubt they get rid of them when they get older considering they cost an arm & a leg, but I take your point
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cool, seems like one og my drawpile doodles made its way here :)

heres the rest of em in case you guys are interested

>>577391335
pt 1
https://imgchest.com/p/5xy2vm9gn7l
pt2
https://imgchest.com/p/6eyrwzj6k7p
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>>577459979
should i be concerned of olivia's list
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>>577459979
good stuff
that bache brat correction was top notch
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>>577459979
I like the detail of the wrench pattern embroidered on mini-chan's tights, cute!
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>>577453892
>>577459979
>>577459592
Lmao and so true! No one here talks about TF2, but hey sister, the awesome OP Art of the little underaged kid from the TF2 Comics woah they keep the discussion going! You ladies need to forget to include your TF2 steam group though! https://steamcommunity.com/groups/thetransfortress
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>>577460457
You are the best poster in this general.
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>>577460628
No man, that would be the OP and the artist making the drawings of the underaged kid from the tf2 comics!
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>>577460175
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>>577454083
>>577460457
>>577459592
>>577457362


>>577456950
explain this post, whyd you post scat
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Spamming/flooding moment
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>>577460981
You know you make it biggly in this general, when you have fans!

>>577461295
She does love to spam her art, but this is great for TF2 discussion; think about it!
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you don't have to spam it again your bootlicker already copy pasted it
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>>577460457
>>577460780
two goats can exist at the same time. The goat who makes the pornographic drawings of the tf2 child, and the guy who reminders her who she is.
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>>577460780
this but unironically
you will always be seething and jealous of the drawfriend
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>>577461498
I'm not being ironic, I think she's a blessing on this community; hopefully valve sees her work and even gives her a spotlight on www.teamfortress.com! Honestly, her artwork, that's some life changing shit, I love how dedicated she is to the kid from the TF2 Comics!
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>>577461498
massive trvke
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>>577461498
>>577461634
two trvkeys, call them Nagasaki and Hiroshima
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https://youtu.be/s0W6G2IHVZg
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>>577461634
>I'm not being ironic
Yeah I totally believe you when you spam reports on his art, pic related it's you
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>>577465591
I didn't report her art. Why are you crying at me?
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>Your main
>You're waifu

For me, it's:
>Engineer
>Rouge
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>>577459979
Those are some nice Amys

>>577466372
Good taste fellow SonicCHAD
>Engineer
>Amy
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>>577466372
>>577466920
Trans Furtress 2!
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577467345
*deploys a level 1 dispenser near you but doesn't hit it to speed up the build process*
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2fort time
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>>577467814
plapping zhao time
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>>577466372
Medic and Pyro
I don't have a waifu. I have a new girl I'm going out on dates with however. We just went to the aquarium back on Wednesday! :)
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He’s so perfect bros
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Tips on how to build up confidence to speak to anime avatars?
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>>577455184
People can change for the better but of course a terminally online "cunny"liker (totally not a pedo) like you wouldn't know that
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>>577469981
if you think Zesty, self admitted permavirgin, shrine of the 14 year old behind him during streams, has changed for the better you're fucking insane. i know youre baiting and you got me but there are people legit coping with similar mindsets.
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mfw rounding a corner and seeing an ubered combo coming at me
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>>577466372
Cerberus
Soldier
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>>577471106
baby making sex with all 3
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>>577469834
This wasn't a joke. I seriously need your help.
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>>577466372
>No edits
Come on /tf2g/ we're better then this
waifus
>Ashuri
>Jill
mains
>engie
>scout
>pyro
hard to pick one but they're all my go tos
>>577471817
Become one.
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>>577466372
Engineer
Poppy
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>>577457362
Every day i am reminded this steam group lives in this general!
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Every day I am reminded that (you) live in this general
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>>577459979
kek, the mods deleted the livia on the post, such a shitshow
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>>577472501
>Every day I am reminded that PATRIOTS are in control of this general
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>basedbooru
you are a walking parody
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>>577473034
>walking parody
says the guy that cut off his weiner to parody a woman
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you don't need to project onto me ma'am
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>>577453892
this image doesn't have anything to do with tf2. perfect op 10/10
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>>577469981
>People can change for the better
Being onions isn't better.
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>>577472963
>basedboory.com

>>577473160
>calling anyone a tranny
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>>577472501
I like the gigachad, gigafly, chud, and tung tung tung tung tung tung sahor edits.
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>be me
>500hrs TF2
>think I finally understand the game

>play scout
>get deleted by soldiers
>can’t outdamage them
>die

>play soldier
>can’t hit scouts
>get 2-shot

>play demoman
>can’t hit anyone
>get bodied by sentries

>play against demoman
>get stickied
>get direct-hit by pills
>instantly fucking explode

how the fuck are you supposed to play this game
500 hours and I’m still getting farmed by every class

Also check em
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>>577479095
that's because you're indian
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>>577479276
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKqMD3rwUMk
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>>577479276
you need to play 600-800 hours straight to have mastered the game. everything past that is mindgames. also a lot of players just silent cheat so whatever.
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Your IQ based on your most hated class

>Soldier
50 IQ

>Spy
60 IQ

>Pyro
70 IQ

>Heavy
90 IQ

>Engineer
100 IQ

>Demoman
105 IQ

>Scout
110 IQ

>Sniper
120 IQ

>where's medic
Too complex to quantify
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>>577479754
hating on soldier is high-IQ tho
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>hating any class
but why though
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>>577480548
>oh my science le feet shooter killed me again!1
>damage surfing?
>movement?
>mind games?
>you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded!

Soldier haters eat a gallon of glue daily.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgnG6f5fpyw
/tf2g/ playing TF2 be like:
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>>577479754
>>577480851
soldier main spotted
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>>577479754
>Your IQ based
Thanks
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>>577470481
>tripbwai avatar
you are living up to the stereotype of lgbtranny when do you transition?
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>>577482250
anime website
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>>577483427
Keep repeating that bitch line while crying maybe it will be true again the 50th time
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>>577483427
trvke
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>>577483515
>keep repeating that bitch line while crying maybe it will be true again the 50th time
/qa/ lost
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>>577470481
you roll in from bluesky town?
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Kill pyros. Behead pyros with the eyelander. Roundhouse kick a pyro onto the control point. Slamdunk a gibus pyro into the trash. Crucify filthy pyro mains. Deficate into a pyros sandvich. Launch pyros into a buzzsaw. Stiryfry pyros in a wok. Toss pyros in front of active sentry guns. Urinate into a pyros gasstank. Judo throw pyros into a woodchipper. Twist pyros heads off. Report pyros to Valve. Karate chop pyros in half. Curbstomb pregnant pyros. Trap pyros in the underworld. Dump pyros into the trash compactor. Liquify pyros into a vat of acid. Eat pyros. Dissect pyros. Exterminate pyros in MGE. Stomp on pyros skull with the mantreads. Make pyros check'em. Cremate pyros with the degreaser. Lobotomize pyros. Mandatory trade bans for pyros. Crush pyros into a paste. Drown pyros in jarate. Vapourize pyros with a pomson. Spawn camp pyros. Kick a pyro from your mvm lobby. Shark pyros from hat drops. Feed pyros to alligators. Slice pyros open with the half-zatoichi.
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What were you doing during the 2011 Japanese earthquake and nuclear meltdown?
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>>577489502
>Wear your hats with pride!
WTF Valve is woke???
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>>577483427
LOL sister!
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3 NIGAS
ON CART
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Payday x TF2 collab when?
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Rate my troonmoman
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>>577493109
why are u so obsessed, floydschizo?
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>>577479276
>scout
run away as soon as your HP reaches less than 125, only engage if you are sure that the result will be victory
>soldier
Wear gunboats and zoom across the map
>demoman
If your teammates suck dicks, play other class
>play against demoman
demoman is only effective when enemies are consciously protecting him, kill everyone else first.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO1Yq7n9zLU
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it's 2011 and you are on your way to foundry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ovdm2yX4MA
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>>577493338
>>577493109
Sister we must attack him
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577479465
>>577479472
>>577494681
he's already posted this pasta before, he's not really asking
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>>577483427
true
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>>577454080
Next OP please.
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>>577498381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElYCBRxpE5E
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>>577515578
if only we knew
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>>577494681
>>soldier
>Wear gunboats and zoom across the map
This isn't relevant advice. Tard.
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weak bait
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>>577489502
I was a console kid playing the sly trilogy and blissfully unaware of global events
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577520497
I was at my girlfriend's place at the time that I had known since middle school. We played Pokémon together and then I'd watch her play Red Dead Redemption on her Xbox 360
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>>577520497
jak and daxter was where it was at also ignore the beaner posting his blog
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>>577520967
stop bragging about how you actually get pussy on tf2g, it'll upset your fanbase
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>>577520497
>sly
I was a Xboxfag back then so I missed that one. COD, Halo and Gears were the fucking shit.
I'd suggest you filter the tripfaggot if you haven't already.
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>>577522127
oh yeah I never got around to play jack and daxter idk why it slipped under my radar, thanks for reminding me about it going to download it now and load it onto my hacked ps3 to play it eventually
>>577523485
the ps3 is pretty easy to hack and sideload on nowadays and not too expensive on the second hand market so definitely would recommend grabbing one (also emulation supposedly is pretty good now aswell)
>xboxfag
xbox was pretty good back then, a friend of mine had one
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>>577492954
the last collab we had was the shitty funko pop game one, and that was in 2024. last promo item was the reissued poker night items. so i'm guessing we can still get promo crap
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>>577523386
I didn't mention the sexual stuff, but since it's implied, my apologies

>>577522127
>>577523485
Oh my bad, fellers. I didn't double check to see if I had replied to the proper post >>577489502

Only hardware that I had aside from the handhelds were my Sega Genesis that I lost by the time I was 13, and my PS2 that I played for a decade straight. Just Dead To Rights and Smackdown Vs Raw on repeat until I finally started gaming on my laptop in 2013. Then I finally got into Team Fortress 2 :)
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>>577527738
Damn it. I got the timelines wrong. I stated Team Fortress 2 on the pre built family PC in February 2012, then I got my laptop and a copy of Yeezus in the summer of 2013*
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>>577520497
Based Sly Cooperbro
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>viva is a 2012 merc badge newfag
explains a lot actually
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>>577532780
I deleted my badge when I ran out of f2p backpack space :( If only I started spending on TF2 sooner
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>>577533249
Sure thing, just like those groceries you "dont bag".
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LazyPurple's patreon money, whatever happened there
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>>577536020
server cost and drugs
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>>577488090
Fuck pyros. Get head from pyros. Fuck a pyro on the control point. Slamdunk your cock into her. Cum inside filthy pyro cunts. Have the pyro make you a sandvich after. Launch sperm into pyros. Fry pyros' brains with sex. Toss a pyro's salad. Urinate into a pyro's mouth (she's into it). Judo throw pyros onto a bed. Twist pyros' nipples. Report your love for pyros to Valve. Split pyros' legs in half. Impregnate pyros. Get trapped into sex by demon pyros from the underworld. Dump sperm into a pyro cum dumpster. Submerge pyros into a vat of cum. Eat pyros' pussies. Dissect pyros' clothes off. Dominate pyros after defeating them in MGE. Slap pyro's face during sex with the Hot Hand. Make pyros suck'em. Cream inside pyros' holes. Lobotomize pyros into sex slaves. Mandatory slut training for pyros. Give pyros your love paste. Drown pyros in mad milk. Whip pyros' asses with a disciplinary action. Camp in the same tent with pyros. Invite a pyro to your mvm lobby. Give pyros your hat drops in exchange for sex. Fuck pyros like an alligator. Slice pyros' clothes off with the half-zatoichi.
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>>577537578
this but also shupos yordles olivias mimis meowscaradas and bunnies
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>>577538256
many are saying this
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>>577532780
There's people here who have a 10th of that faggots age and larp as old fags here thoughbeit.
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My badge is from September 2011 because I didn't play it on PC until it went F2P
I technically played it earlier on the 360, but I didn't play it much because the real reason I bought The Orange Box was for Half Life 2, since the only PC we had at the time was my dad's office desktop PC, which wasn't powerful enough to run Half Life 2
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>>577540060
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>>577540164
thanks
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>>577540164
meant for
>>577533249
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>>577540267
no it was meant for her
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>>577539408
YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM SOLDIER, WHERE IS YOUR MAID OUTFIT
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>>577540164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=055n6u1z7pI
That's kinda what Hikari's gimmick is.
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>>577540608
you forgot the trip viva
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>>577541336
What a CRINGE video.
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Where’s the update that deletes bad maps like the Halloween maps and CP_Steel
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>>577544402
Agreed on the first part, Steel is goated and filters out low iq/attention span gamers
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Why did they add 7 variants of this firework effect?
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Make Righteous Bison spammable. If you made it slow, at least remove it's reload animation. Make it spammable since everyone can dodge it's projectiles at this point.
#FixTF2
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>>577546857
Or, here me out anon: go play overwatch if you want random plasma spam flying across the map constantly you faggot fuck
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>>577479276
you probably need AT LEAST 500 hours in a single class to not get bodied. not 500 hours in 9 separate classes
depending on genetics of course
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>>577553216
he's bagging that body alright
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>>577547190
>everything I don't like is overlook
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577540164
meant for >>577533249 and >>577553216
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>>577553216
!unsubscribe
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>>577539408
>>577541336
baby making sex with yordles and shupos
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>>577544973
The story I've heard is that the workshopper made a bunch of variants for Valve to choose from.
Normally they only pick 2-3 and scrap the rest. For some reason they just took all of them
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>>577554504
lel
>>577554952
does that mean those effects are at least cheap
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>>577541336
ee oo aa oo ee
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>>577554113
you got clocked man, you should play overwatch
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you don't really see a whole lot of tf2 tubers making gameplay commentary videos anymore, huh
i imagine casual matchmaking kinda killed that since it's so unfun trying to find an actually fun match now that isn't full of sweats
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>>>/gif/31042077
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>>577565745
viva to the shupo poster
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stop posting everything the beaner does
your post got deleted for a reason
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>>577540164
>>577540259
We are all feeding shupo avatar players on team fortress 2
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>>577565276
https://youtu.be/7e2-b7uo0zo
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577566898
Shupo won
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>>577566898
shupussy...
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I hid every single reply in this thread, you guys are the reason this game only has about ~8000 players playing.
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Yup, it's gaming time
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Yeah I'm sure a 10 person dead thread on a Vietnamese Basket Weaving Forum is influential over the entire internet
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>>577573987
11
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>>577573720
Beaner and floyd aside. People in this general are the reason this game is still alive at all.
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>>577574148
I would watch this anime
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>>577576630
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>be 9, watching tf2 videos on internet because dogshit family pc can barely run anything that isn't from the 1990's
>Jokes about fucking the touhou lolis and gay rape
>be 14, playing tf2 now that i have my own personal computer and they've gotten good enough to run older games with shit hardware
>Jokes about fucking the fate lolis, gwen ten, and gay rape
>Be 23
>Wtf are you talking about lolis you're a fucking pedophile KYS
[Kicked]
>Join supposedly based server
>Wtf are you a homosexual you're a fucking faggot KYS
[Kicked]
This community is so full of oversensitive faggots now, how did it ever get like this
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>>577576630
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>>577576630
biggest trvke I've read today
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>>577577513
unironically? obama legalizing gay marriage, thus making gays, and by extension other such weirdos in the pride movement, politically correct in the eyes of the public, which let them spread unchecked for almost 20 years now like mold. now every other person is a shameless freak, and most people are too stupid to think there's anything wrong with them.
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>>577541336
fuck you this music has been stuck in my head all day
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>>577577513
Like everything else that went wrong with the game, I think you can trace it back to one single update: Meet Your Match.
Meet Your Match disabled sprays and mods in casual servers. Part of the TF2 experience was leaving your spawn and immediately seeing a wall of porn, memes, gore, anime, and whatever else, and installing whatever wacky mods you wanted. Suddenly you have an entire generation of people picking up the game and being mentally conditioned into believing this is not a game for expressing yourself with sprays and mods, because they never knew the game when that was normal. To the point where they started becoming angry whenever they venture into a community server and see the wall of sprays as intended and start crying for all sprays to be disabled (Zeesa) or start crying to take people's mods away (the github reports about the sv_pure bypass). This is what led to them crying about the last bastion of freedom (Objectors) and tried to get them disabled too.
None of this behavior was around when public sprays and mods were a thing. Valve normalized the control freak trannies by sanitizing the game for them.
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>>577578623
Some sprays can be very distracting though.
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>>577579232
It's part of the experience. Like spraying a fake Sniper or Sentry at the edge of the map. Every other Valve game has them
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>>577577964
>now every other person is a shameless freak
Are we pretending like tf2 wasn't full of that or are we just blaming the gays for literally everything again, part of my problem is the amount of retarded homophobes who take everything way too seriously as they're the opposite of the anti-loli dipshits

>>577578623
Probably a huge part of it ngl. You didn't see all these retards whining about how tf2 needs to be an uberserious comp game until that came out, and now everyone complains about people's signs having, godforbid, a bit of suggestive asuka on it in an M rated online game. Now they're trying to get weapons to have random spray removed as if every fucking video game ever hasn't used that as a balancing mechanic for close-range weapons since the fucking fps genre had doom.
Fuck people who want the main game to be comp ready.

If real CSAM was a problem, then maybe valve should do a quick check of people's sprays before they join their servers compared to the several databases that exist? it's not that hard.
Fucking retarded how mismanaged this game is.
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>>577579473
CSAM? What does that mean?
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New to the game here any trading forums or discord ,steam group I should know? Or just place to discuss trades in general
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>>577579802
Cute Shupos And Megumins
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>>577579895
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/thetransfortress
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>>577579473
tf2 had furries and gays here and there, but 50% of the playerbase weren't gender confused soilennials or some other flavor of lgbtomgwtfbbq. the only time you ever ran into men pretending to be women was people who weren't actually serious and who were just fucking around with a voice changer to either scam dumb kids or troll people
yeah there's an amount of heckin chuds now that make it their whole personality, but they quite literally would not exist had this problem of weirdo freaks that have no concept of right or wrong not gotten so out of control
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>>577579473
>If real CSAM was a problem, then maybe valve should do a quick check of people's sprays before they join their servers compared to the several databases that exist? it's not that hard.
The bare minimum was to just make the spray cache flush itself every time you close the game. They added that way too late in response to fake hysteria AND still refused to re-enable sprays after.

>>577579895
Human to human trading is mostly dead at this point in the game's life. Trade servers are all dead. Human trading sites like tf2outpost and tf2bazaar all shut down. You only have bot trading sites or bot sellers on backpack.tf left.
Mann Co. Store has a discord server that they require that you join, that one might be fairly active if nothing else.
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>>577579895
there's probably a subreddit for tf2 trading
discords are shady, I wouldn't trust any
most trading is handled by automated tradebots hosted by the people who run trading websites, like the ones listed in the OP
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>>577579895
You can join a trade server. Those are comfy and the people can be nice.
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>>577580342
Almost nobody trades in those though, they're more like chatrooms where the whales have a captive audience and get to show off. I usually see new players who don't know any better overpaying for stuff there, but even that's a rarity.
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>>577580541
Speaking from experience, they are great for trading.
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>>577582374
Your experience being, what, 15 years ago? Trade servers maybe get 3-6 people connecting to them and they're all whales talking about their unusuals, like that anon said. I've not seen a single fully populated trade servers in years
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>>577455637
need rape
someone rape
pls
i on phone
emergency rape
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>>577582510
https://teamwork.tf/community/quickplay/trading
Pick any of those.
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If only they add the sex update to repopulate the server it takes so long to queue for a match
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I really hate invisible walls. I'm noticing more and more as I play in areas that clearly look as though you can jump over them. They seem to be more prominent on maps with a heavy vertical component such as Odyssey and Citadel.
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dead game
dead general
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>>577588503
sex with this ghost game
sex with this ghost general
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577588581
Her name is Carrie.
Carrie Krueger.
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>>577589347
alright then sex with carrie
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>>577588710
medic!
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>>577541336
What a BASED video.
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engineer should have something like the needler from halo
a full mag should do half the total base damage of the pistol's magazine
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577598715
>homing projectiles
TF2 doesn't like that but you could probably tone down the homing and keep the crystal explosion and it would probably be good
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>>577599445
Uh... I can see her balls...
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>>577599445
puffy
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>>577598715
>>577599445
Yeah sisters this should be the troonporiums next big thing, import halo into tf2
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>one full month without tyler mcvicker slop
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>>577536020
i liked the part where he blamed his laziness on some made up illness like no nigga you're just lazy as fuck
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>>577613770
>dude I might have mcas or post-exertional malaise or chronic fatigue or
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>>577613770
>guy called lazypurple is lazy
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>>577613770
i kinda feel bad for the guy, not gonna lie
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577579914
based demo
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>>577578623
don't forget that the guy pushing for the spray ban in casual was also an actual irl groomer pedo
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>>577622326
>don't forget that the guy pushing for the spray ban in casual was also an actual irl groomer pedo
I mean zees was a shotacon/lolicon, and transgendered; it's almost like the writing was on the wall or something.
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zesty is like the asmongold of tf2
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>>577613951
wtf...
this is all me...
except replace weed and pornhub and alcohol and drugs with TF2
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>>577622326
>Do you understand?
based jojo ref
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>>577622978
>I mean zees was a shotacon/lolicon
proof?
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>>577622978
>shotacon/lolicon
trannies hate the drawings though
he was just a pedo
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>>577626293
Trans people love drawing degenerate shit.
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>>577622326
No wonder this game is in a sorry state
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>>577626690
>drawing
lel
they have no creative potential
all they do is live on their private 'cord
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>>577626090
he had liked and retweeted shotocan/lolicon stuff ages ago, he's also transgendered man.
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>>577626982
Neither do you.
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>>577627085
Neither do you.
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>>577599445
the homing isn't even particularly strong on the needler, but ur prolly righte
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>>577627074
>forgot omori fan
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increase the righteous bison's projectile speed, or firing speed?
this is on top of an innate +40% damage per shot, since it's remained fucked up since they nerfed its projectile size and it lost 40% of its potential damage
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>>577536020
Alright I don’t follow e celebs. What’s this about? Did the guy get caught scamming?
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>doesn't follow e-celeb
>proceeds to follow e-celeb
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Read the pinned comment.
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Genuinely how did Dane become so popular when he has so many awful takes and clearly views tf2 competitively but is not good enough to be a comp player.
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>>577633938
he played high div highlander
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>>577633271
Such a tragic fate
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>>577633271
I’d like to know what’s going on in the tf2 sphere. E celeb drama is a part of that. I can’t stay online 24/7 unlike some of you here.

>>577634201
An Eceleb playing is free publicity. That’s why he stayed in the top leagues iirc. Something along the lines of “broadening the audience”, was what Dane said anyway.
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>I'd like to know what's going on in the tf2 sphere
then listen to zesty, none of the other ecelebs matter
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>>577636603
i agree with a lot of his takes but half of his livestreams are him complaining about the emporium and being witch hunted 6 years ago
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>I've been seeing a lot of posts criticizing the closing of Calamity development.
>But I would like people to consider this from the perspective of the devs and musicians.
>The devs spent years working with a close group. I'm sure they began to see each other as friends. Imagine finding out one of your friends is a pedophile. Imagine finding out that MORE than one of them is a pedophile. Imagine the project lead you worked under for years is a pedophile. Then imagine the shame you'd feel when it turns out you elected another pedophile to be your lead.
>That alone would crush me. To find out that people I spent countless hours working with were monsters would sully my image of my own work.
I know this has nothing to do with TF2, but this is a pretty good reasoning to hate the emporium. The emporium is tribalist enough to defend the people in it who do horrible things and do anything to bury the controversy / keep them in the discord instead of distancing themselves from bad actors. Fuck the emporium
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>>577634201
>high div HL
>as engineer
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>>577633271
>>577598715
engi should have a medieval wrench that makes a scorpio, a giant, slow firing huntsmen, and instead of a dispenser he builds a campfire
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>>577637248
Higher div and skilled than you
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lmao
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>>577638665
stop being mean to her.
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kek
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>>577633938
decent production value and easily digestible content + he catered to an easily pleased crowd
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>>577638665
>engi
>skill
ur retarded or sumethin?
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>>577633096
LazyPurple still gets patreon money to work on videos (like How it feels to play Medic) despite not releasing anything in years (and probably not actively working on anything at all)
He's mentioned he's been dealing with mental issues which is fine but after a certain period he's just getting free money for doing nothing
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>which is fine
name a more raped general on /vg/
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>>577643597
This is the least raped general on this board.
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>>577643597
There's nothing wrong with taking a break from making videos. The problem is when that "break" is over 5 years all while you're getting money from people that do so because you're supposed to be making videos
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>>577643597
it's ok to admit you don't know what he means
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>>577643597
yeah lazypurple raped you
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>>577643597
What clued you in, the sympathizing with the ecelebrity; or the constant degeneracy?
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>>577643597
/xivg/, /utg/ and /exeg/ no diff us so hard it's not even funny
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>>577645241
lol sister!!
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>>577644518
Pretty much this
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>>577643597
We are nowhere near the level of /sc2g/ when that was around
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Why is /tf2g/ so dead?
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>>577654246
because you're still here
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>>577654391
I am going to sign my post with a signature now
-sister
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>>577654391
Bit mean.
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577654524
We get it, you're a trans woman in turkey and really want us to sympathize with your struggles. But I'm still not joining your steam group
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>>577655892
It's spelled Turkiye now.
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>>577655892
I don't think you realize he was making fun of xer
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>>577656019
>>577656138
Turkiye is pigshit.
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>>577656294
Greece is pigshit.
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>>577656294
trvke
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>>577656294
Trvke, Turkiye and Team Fabulous 2 are pigshit
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>>577658247
Did you mean Trans Furtress 2, the official TF2 server of Turkiye?
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>>577658778
>projection
/qa/ lost
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>>577658778
nah but the soijak posting faggot who constantly tries to force his dogshit memes here I'm replying to right now is from turkey so take from that what you will!
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>>577659653
Demofloyd is the funniest meme that has ever been posted on /tf2g/.
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lol the faggot isn't even pretending to be someone else anymore
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Tried the new castle gayload map. I thought for sure I'd hate it, but I ended up having a blast. Probably has something to do with the fact it's Soldier paradise.
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>>577633938
Of all his retarded takes, his pomson buff idea wasn't bad.
Making the beam travel faster would probably be enough to make the gun more viable.
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>>577661196
sex with ankha
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>>577658778
lol yyepppppppppppppp
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>>>/gif/31045477
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>>577661196
baby making sex with ankha
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>got enough refined to get a tour of duty ticket
>go to backpack.tf
>saw the cheapest Sell order (25 ref)
>trade with the same amount
>quickly gets denied
And these faggots wonder why bots are taking over.
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I remember Dane bottom scoring while trying to force engi in 6v6
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>>577671414
paizuri with her big jiggly boingies
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>>577661196
remember when he suggested an ammo version of the sandwich
who would even use it
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>>577671414
Bouncy
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>>577670887
>cheapest sell order
>18 hours ago
backpack is scum for allowing this
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>>577671414
when froyotech invited him for no restriction 6s? i think that was unironically for publicity
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fempyro game
fempyro general
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>>577686024
baby making sex with fempyro game
baby making sex with fempyro general
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>>577686319
many are saying this
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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Greek hours
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American hours
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>>577686024
plap
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>>577688812
sex with americans
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>>577671749
yeah, it's retarded
I think the pomson one was the only genuine good balancing idea he ever had
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>>577691160
baby making sex with lucy
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>>577577513
It's actually a good thing that degeneracy is becoming uncommon. Making degeneracy a core part of your identity and pretending like other people are unusual for removing you just proves how unhinged and far gone you are. I'd recommend reflecting on your history, but you take pride in being horrible and disgusting, so you won't notice obvious problems such as being raised on the computer since you were 9 years old (possibly younger). Consider cognitive behavioral therapy.
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>>577694564
>+1000 karma
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good bait
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i haven't played tf2 in a few weeks
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>>577696541
plap
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>>577694564
Updooted xista! Way to go!
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Fact:
The Conch is objectively superior to the gunboats unless you have a discord kitten medic rimming you and/ or you have 5000 hours on the map you are playing on and have perfect rocket jump routes to every med kit memorized better than your SSN.
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>>577700314
If you want damage, play demo.
Soldier exists to bomb in to the enemy gaymers and hopefully drop a med. if you play conch, just admit you’re shit at sustaining yourself. Why don’t you equip the cruchbox while you’re at it hm?
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>>577704287
you sound like you've lost to the loadout screen a few times
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Why aren’t ecelebs like shounic more popular?
>extremely high production value
>videos have an ideal 10 mins time
>actual research and effort
>Decent smart guy narrator voice
>contributes more to the community content wise.
>no bad takes or controversies
What’s the issue here? He should be at couple million subs by now.
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>>577704606
Niggerbox + cunch user spotted.
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>>577704672
too cerebral
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577694710
>>577694926
>>577698423
You are upset because I'm right.
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worse bait
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>>577704287
I play Soldier to kill dudes and not die to dudes. Also fuck medic dependency.
>crutchbox
I would but 3 rockets would make me want to kys myself. Maybe it would be fun with the Battalion's backup and that fat HP pool.
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>>577658778
You forgot the fempyro tranny mate.
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>get headshot by a sniper
>it did zero damage because we weren't playing on a payload map
Didn't he get the memo?
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>responding to your own deleted post
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>>577694564
>>577707046
>soft-core porn is horrible and disgusting
plebbit is next block
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>>577577513
>>577578623
>>577579473
The best part is this didn't even hurt the old culture, it made objectors common to use in casual, it made community servers more common. But now there's a shiny pokemon possibility that I stumble upon some dipshit who pretends to be pure despite he has skeletons in his closet in community servers. It's annoying, but to me it's more like meeting the wrong person at this point. If did made it mad then I did a good job.
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>>577704672
>actual research
>no bad takes
polling his viewers for things a single time or running 2-3 rounds of something and considering it a valid result is pointless. his only good videos are where he's just explaining things about tf2, any "exploratory" content is riddled with holes
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>>577714306
>polling
I can tell you’re larping because if you’ve actually been to his discord and participated in some 100 player bullshit, you’d know he does a lot more than running couple polls. There are separate channels created with the intention of letting viewers submit feedback, forms, map blueprints, mechanics, balance changes etc.

>research
His methods of research are infinitely better than some YouTubers whose entire basis for an argument or a balance change is “trvst me vro”. Would you rather have a singular guy parroting bad opinions or a guy who parrots generalized opinions of the tf2 sphere?
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>>577704672
he was a one hit wonder with the tf2 developers code comments video
also ran out of things to talk about just like everyone else so he turned into sloptuber
just
like
everyone
else
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>>577715238
This bait is garbage.
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just because it hurts your feelings doesn't change reality
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>>577704672
You failed to account for the fact that his channel is based around a niche subject. It's random trivia about a 19 year old PC game. Sure his videos might be well put together but
>this tree has 5 polygons less than normal
will fail to attract anyone other than the most diehard TF2 fans
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>>577715832
shill your shit on reddit fag
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>two posts about not liking his eceleb slop mind broke him into shitposting
funny
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>>577716162
>>577715851
>>577715832
/tf2g/ when someone follows a normal eceleb and not a fatass chuddy pedo-sloptuber with a history of scamming and bad takes:
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>normal eceleb
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>>577715832
Why aren't you using Dearrow?
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>>577716373
(you) when you can't actually refute any of these points:
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>>577716629
because I don't use youtube all that much in the first place
and besides, dogshit thumbnails are a great danger colour to steer clear of dogshit videos
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>>577716373
shounic has scammed people?
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futile babymaking sex with lister
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I just got the most kills on demoknight ever
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>>577719408
now switch the booties to stock gl and watch as the enemy cannot kill you
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>>577720101
That would make me more fragile and make shieldbashes even harder to aim though
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>>577720340
you are missing the point
you would be stock demo with, faster movement and what 500 hp against fire and explosives
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>>577722223
The point is I want to play demoknight
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>>577722757
>
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>>577722757
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Why do so many meds see engineers as free kills? You’ll me minding your own business and then BAM! a med with an Ubersaw is beelining for you.

I ofcourse humble their overconfident asses with revenge crits I got from my minis. It’s funny, they never expect the gibus + pyrovision engie to actually retaliate I guess. Just plop down a mini and let it get some assists. It’s free crits to kill meds really.
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after like a decade of not knowing what to play since everything fucking sucks, I remembered there was a game I liked called tf2.
should I install it? or is it just bots and retards idling for drops?
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>>577727404
it's okay
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>>577727404
Gameplay-affecting bots and a lot of cheaters got giganiggernuked two years back. Outside of Casual being intrinsically kind of shitty the game's perfectly playable. I treat it as a comfort game that I return to every once in a while, just load into a random match and start pwning shitters with my brain turned off and my playlist turned on
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>>577716373
>fatass chuddy pedo-sloptuber with a history of scamming and bad takes:
This unironically describes shounic to a t, funnily enough
he's some fatass gook, and if you have ever seen his streams instead of his edited videos, he's a completely different person and is known to be a bit of a fucking insufferable asshole. he also had quite the colorful history on slurs.tf. no, I don't know about scamming, but bad takes definitely apply to him. Remember his "no, valve will never fix the box crisis, and they shouldn't, because it is threadmill work" video?
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Ecelebs bad
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577734481
>also had quite the colorful history on slurs.tf
How about it, nigga?
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>>577736672
yeah, he used to say nigger and faggot a lot
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>>577734481
Wait shounic has a malnourished nerd voice and not a fat chungus voice. Post stream pics. Yeah that bot crisis video wasn’t well received. Him being a completely different person on stream is irrelevant innit? Most jewtubers put up an act and shounic doesn’t. I mean, look at zesty and dane.
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Genuine schizo
>Zesty Jesus
Pedo
>dane
Scammer
>delfy
Pretentious fag
>soundsmith
Smelly discord tranny
>stabby
Wannabe genius
>jonto
Unskilled
>joey

Which way /tf2g/?
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>>577739009
is dane really a scammer
what did he do
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>>577739232
Supposedly got his fans to donate some rare items and unusuals for a “charity”. But some of the items were found in his inventory after the event when he accidentally made his backpack public. Twitter caught a wind of this ofc. One of the organizers was apparently a trader main as well lol.
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>>577739687
figures
never trust an engineer main
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>>577739687
bet that is the real reason he "sold off" his inventory
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>>577738447
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>>577700314
It's not, tried the gunboats after months of banner and shotgun only and it's absurd how fun and useful the extra mobility is on soldier.
Banners in general feel way more static and medic reliant than the gunboats, usually you can just warp yourself between skirmishes and healthpacks.
>>577739009
joey
also switch stabby and soundsmith
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>>577661196
Built for it :3
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>>577734481
How is he a pedo?
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>>577739009
I choose Swipez
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>>577746159
>>577746362
you faggots are replying to turkyne
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>>577750463
Why are there so many turks on /tf2g/?
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>>577750870
Because every post I don't like is from a country I don't like
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>>577739009
A debate between these 6 would be legendary
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>>577750870
>so many turks
It's just one autist shitting the threads with his autism.
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>>577751865
There's 7.
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>>577752480
dane is delfy
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Was Shuaiby Aslam a regular here? I saw his video posted on a rekt thread greeting the tf2 general. What's the history with him?
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>>577753672
yeah he used to take draw requests
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>>577754728
>softcoreporn anime pictures
Like 4chan since inception, sharteen?
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>>577754728
Kind of feel bad for people who get strung into a life like that and ultimately end it when they realize it's a dead end (no pun intended)
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>>577753672
That was just Viva because I like browsing rekt with him.
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>>577754928
Yes Mental sickness people have existed forever and often ends up kysing themself
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>>577751865
It’d just be Zesty shouting over everyone else and their shitty opinions
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>>577753672
Someone keeps linking my /gif/ rekt thread posts here, so I do that just to let the tf2g browsers know "Yep, it's me posting these!"

>>577755518
With you? I browse the threads on my own. Other people browse and post their on their own too. I don't even know you, so I don't do anything "with" you
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>>577755706
>demofloyd is a newfag
like clockwork
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hey janny
the beaner is samefagging again
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>>577754728
>>577755497
>>577755706
the samefag in question
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>>577755706
sad truth nuke
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>>577757184
ummm
you forgot the v sister!!
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>>577756443
Every Zesty debate has been him sitting quietly while the tranny buries theirself alive. Zesty wasn't the one choking back tears while screaming the Emporium saved his life.
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>>577750870
That's nobody's business but the Turks!
Doo-doo-doo, doo-doo, doo-doo-doo-doo
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>>577751204
>>577758150
turk samefag
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>>577757019
He never samefags.
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Greece is timeless kino
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>be greek engineer main
>win just by existing
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>be engi
>loot the whole map during setup
>rancho relaxo while your built up wealth of ammo supports your lazy lifestyle
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Fem!Scout
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>>577756569
ouch, your words will sting your autistic fanboy, viva
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>>577766183
baby making sex with femscout
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>>577766616
gross
femscout is shit
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>>577768442
Yeah to you because ur not a Trans Furtress 2 girly.
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>>577766616
I changed my mind
>>577768774
Don't ever reply to my well thought out and thoroughly researched posts ever again you disgusting freak
I'd rather support fagscout than be associated with the likes of you
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>>577766183
I agree with the other anon, that is a man face.
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>>577768774
lol'd and truke
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>>577768442
ur shit
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chicANO
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>>577766183
>>577766616
Many are saying this
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Ah fuck TF2 runs on Greek
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https://youtu.be/YTcbTHti39U
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>>577771965
>Half Lambert
>Half-Life
>scale of 0.5 (half)
>c(i) is the color of light i
>c is the 3rd letter
>Half-Life 3???
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nduCF2ljOwQ
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https://www.teamfortress.tv/66550/why
lol
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>>577777490
I like the idea of competitive TF2 just as a thing to watch. I will never engage in it myself as I am a casual player.
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>>577754728
>>577755497
>>577755706
make it less obvious next time
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Zesty Jesus vs. FROYO b4nny but it's Celebrity Deathmatch
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>>577779273
buy an ad
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>>577779352
Later
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>>577743840
baby making sex with hilda
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3 spy ideas you can nod along with me saying
1. silent decloaking watch
2. revolver that never breaks disguise when you shoot it
3. Cloak that lets you pass through one enemy with a cool down
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>>577787678
Obscenely plebian post
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Zesty Jesus vs. FROYO b4nny but it's Lesbian Mud Wrestling
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>>577788648
Med/ snipertroon or engiechaser
call it
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Uhh bros, is this another insanely lucky drop? I didn't even know this was a weapon. I knew about the zombie spy arm, but not this.
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Has Valve made the Dragon's Fury not spawn 1000 copies of its particles and flashbang you when you shoot it yet
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>>577789094
>insanely lucky
Not really, it's out of the ordinary in that it's a halloween weapon but it is still a regular weapon available in the regular pool. It's worth 1 scrap like every other weapon.
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>>577766183
being femscout would be nice
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>>577789550
Why doesn't Scrap.tf give you it in their "buy all weapons" thingy if it's so common? I know there's a bunch of other re-skins they don't bother giving to you so I figured it must be worth more than a typical item.
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>>577789094
As lucky as getting an objector drop
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>>577789550
>It's worth 1 scrap like every other weapon
Acktchualee the Vaccinator is worth 1 ref now because of some autist that's obsessed with hoarding as many as he can
You're better off trading spare vaccs instead of crafting them
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>>577768442
Faggot of the year award.
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>>577790858
congrats on your title
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>>577790138
Because scrap.tf's inventory system sucks, you can get one for 1 scrap right now on backpack.tf. You can also get them for free from halloween contracts.

>>577790374
Okay fine "like most other weapons that haven't been arbitrarily inflated" then
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chub livia when
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>>577793168
any examples on how chubby?
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>>577793168
You got this in the /v/ thread already
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>>577794384
NTA but assuming you're oliviafren this was already perfect
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>>577794384
you know. doughy. wide. as heavy as someone twice her age.

>>577794462
fuck i forgot
sorry. nevermind
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Should I add any more of these to my queue?
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I think the Tomislav is ugly.
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>>577796191
The Brass Breast is uglier.
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>>577795926
Add Well, Yukon, Foundry, Freight, and Canaveral. You can add Powerhouse too but the timer made it worse.
Remove Process, Gullywash and Sunshine.
Neutral on Badlands and Reckoner.
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>>577799554
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>>577799554
Why are hell balls like that?
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>>577799554
puffy plap
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>>577799984
Because it's AI slop.
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>>577800297
I don't care about AI. Im not a tranny.
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>>577800297
and you would be an expert on that, slop spammer
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>>577714819
Him being better than the average tf2uber doesn't make his methods good, just better than average

And I'm talking about facts he presents, for example I was in the stream where his viewers rated the dev commentary and it was the saddest, most biased shit ever
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577800479
i'm from israel and i love this post
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>>577801909
Nobody says this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYBZrRCCrXE
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>>577806294
femscout niggas see this face and cum
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that's regular scout tho
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>>577810770
femscout has normal scout's ugly face, yes
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I wish all weapons had Strange variants, idk why some of them don't for no reason
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>>577813906
not really
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MvM update status?
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>>577817380
releasing as soon as I finish breeding poppy (never)
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>>577817380
12 weeks
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Is the fur troon posting yordles here now?
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yordles aren't furry
also
>now
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>>577823797
Months*
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>>577823324
Lol so true xister ı like how xher crown vanishes because the animator is skilless
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>>577827120
0/24 players in Twerkborea for over a month now.
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>calls a halo a crown
>thinks it slowly fading and turning off as she falls asleep is some kind of "error"
actual knuckle dragging retard
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>>577828018
we really should segregate the internet from turkjeets
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>>577817380
24 weeks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw0MUBfsiKY
>casters exclusively say "she"
>this entire game mode is played exclusively by trannies
KEK
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>>577830679
I'm surprised that Solarlight is shilling this even though he used to say nigger faggot all the time.
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>>577831680
Problem?
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>>577837161
Zesty is the hot e celeb lmao
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>>577841450
^only
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mvm update stalled for 30 years because eric found out he can't just drag and drop mvm maps into the game?
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I had a 10 year long break from TF2 and can still farm people.
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>farming f2ps
stunning & brave
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dead game
dead general
dead website
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Why haven't you taken the cheatpill yet? There is no punishment for cheating.
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Nah, bot hosters are still whining on the forums about how valve is removing their accounts immediately because it's all they had in life
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dead as shit game dead as shit general
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https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/8/82/Spy_mvm_resurrect01.wav
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https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/2/2b/Spy_DominationScout01.wav
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Man I miss playing on the Saxton Hell servers, i wonder what all those niggas are playing/doin nowadays

https://files.catbox.moe/khz2x4.png
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>>577855498
More like
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/8/8f/Spy_JarateHit04.wav
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>>577855680
>https://files.catbox.moe/khz2x4.png
Show this fucking picture to a cop and see what happens you will hit the ground before you can blınk
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>>577855680
I'm a cop and this picture is awesome I would shake your hand if we met in real life.
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>>577855680
I'm a prior military cop and i would commission you more kyojivia
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>>577855680
I'm the ground, please stop throwing people onto me
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here come all the tranny olivia dicksuckers
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>>577859794
ikr?
>b-but its just a drawing

a drawing of what?
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imagine not being able to tell reality from fiction
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>>577859794
>>577859931
Turkey is pigshit. Greece won. Engineer won.
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>>577855680
Based
>>577859676
Seconded
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>>577861083
Cucks never win.
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bro has nothing but his AI slop fantasies
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>>577852564
egg making sex with meowscarada game
egg making sex with meowscarada general
egg making sex with meowscarada website
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>>577861379
My posts are not AI slop they are AI masterpieces.
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>i am a jeet who bathes in the ganges river and love ai sir, btw your olivia oc sucks
cool i guess
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https://youtu.be/uF2leo0r4dE
was it kino?
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>>577863680
> t. totally not the artist who draws children for the pedos here

just give up lil bro
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good god all you do is pretend to be a blacked cuck fetishist generating that slop or a "tranny anime sister" because that's your only way of insulting somebody, you have no admirable qualities or a personality whatsoever so this is what you have to do instead of bringing anyone to yoru side, while you're the actual pedo in reality too. when are you gonna kys
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>>577864106
Anime is never kino.
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>>577865654
Nta anon posting ai slop, but what the fuck are you going on about holy lmao
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>>577862724
>>577865340
its funny really, while you're here raging and prompting a.i. slop, the oliviafren doesnt even respond to you. On the drawthread's, he's loved, not just for his art but for hosting community drawing sessions, making art tutorials for newbies and for overall being helpful and nice. He creates OC for this general while you just shit up the place. You try to bring others down while he uplifts. You should reevaluate yourself man. its sad. you can scream "but sis, the troons" and all, but its the truth
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ain't that cute, BUT IT'S WRONG!!!
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>>577859794
It's obvious a discord coordinated attack everytime
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>>577858294
Show your onionjak to a cop and see what happens you will be curb-stomped before you could've move
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>>577859931
>a drawing of what?
A drawing of Olivia, anything else?
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>>577867212
what map is this
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>>577869516
pl_downward_reversed
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If based mods on /vg/ genuinely believe that they are better than /v/ mods. Then they should have the minimal effort to ban this turkish wojak obsessed demopedo. It doesn't contribute anything to the website other than being annoying and downright criminal. He has the autistic nerve to call everyone who doesn't like pedophiles, all while he was posting CSAM at some point; there's even proof about it in the previous generals. Demofloyd posting CSAM should've been banned forever by now and swatted by the authorities, yet he's still around. Can you faggots do your job for once?
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>>577865960
You should post this poll instead (which also should be 10 to 3, someone said they misvoted)
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2007 mod but with essential unlocks like gunboats and kritzkrieg
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>When you don't gatekeep things like this, exclusivity and novelty go almost completely out the window. If they re-released the sandvich and spycrab promos, it wouldn't feel nearly as special to own anymore. I missed the boat on those, but I think they should stay as extremely limited items that only a few people own. I was against the poker night items getting added again for this reason. People can complain about this all they want, but the fact of the matter is those crazy (sometimes suspicious), often ridiculously high sales are the reason the economy isn't on life support rn. Access to the garbage effects that little kids like will always be there. If someone wants a Spellbound, say, they either shell out or just accept they missed the opportunity to acquire it. Tf2 trading is not for everyone, and we should NOT be lowering the bar for entry just because little booger pickin' Terry Thompson wants to buy a classic Halloween unusual with the money he got from taking out the trash last Wednesday.
Is he right?
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>>577869849
Nobody has ever posted any CSAM here.
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Demopedo is a pedo. More at 11.
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>577870206
he says, knowing full well he's posted it along with dead children
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>a nigga who draws vs a literal pedo

hmmmmmmm
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>>577870201
Who
Sounds like cope from a tradermain that doesn't want his precious pixels to lower in value
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post youre weapon names
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>>577876005
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>>577876005
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>>577876005
A... gallon?
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>>577876005
Description courtesy of /tf2g/.
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>>577876005
i'd never share my weapon names here
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>>577877498
>56 kills
>>577880115
>106 kills
embarrassed to use them?
>>577876005
>5564 people pissed on
based
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>>577876005
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>>577880412
Here on level one of robot heeeeeeeelll
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>>577880412
Kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLPkKZS6q9k
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>>577880603
mah nigga
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>>577880719
also mah nigga
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>>577880234
>>106 kills
>embarrassed to use them?
Nah, just have other weapons that I prefer
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>>577881095
Maybe you should've named those weapons instead of one you prefer less
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>>577694564
>won't notice obvious problems such as being raised on the computer since you were 9 years old (possibly younger).
yes, this would be a problem if i was still a child, but i'm already in this deep and i don't give a fuck.
>you take pride in being horrible and disgusting
You are currently on 4chan. Also if i'm not grooming children/abusing women this is an issue why? Beyond the obvious of social isolation
>pretending like other people are unusual for removing you just proves how unhinged and far gone you are
Because it's only now you faggots flooded in and started attacking the original culture by enabling the most obnoxious part of the community to flourish. you are cockroaches invading a preexisting household.
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>>577876005
>>
EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577882157
HUH!
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>>577880234
I've had my stranges since stranges were originally added and not one of them is Hale's Own
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Why is /tf2g/ so dead?
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>>577887729
0 plapcakes
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BEFORE EN EN WHY
IS LIVE
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>>577887779
let's fix that
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>>577888190
plap
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>>577888190
cake
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>>577888572
>>577888794
nice
which is the best payload map?
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>>577889309
borneo
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>>577889309
goldrush
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>>577889309
barnblitz
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>>577889309
1 - Pier
2 - Boneo
3 - Snowy
4 - Barnblitz
5 - Upward
6 7 8 and 9 - Dustbowl
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>>577893450
fat fuck....
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>>577888190
>>577889309
>>577893450
baby making sex with vex, miku, and stocking
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Thanks for the new objector art, drawanon.
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>>577895085
based
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>>577882157
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>>577895085
Hello, FBI? Yes this post right here.
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>>577896268
>stop calling us over drawings
>*hangs up*
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>>577876005
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>>577876005
Most of these were name rolls from here
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>>577897856
don't care to read any of these then
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>>577897856
sovl
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>>577897856
kino
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>>577876005
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>>577897856
I may have been one of those add me for erp descriptions
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>>577895085
Based olivia oppai enjoyer
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>>577895085
Nce mayne, happy to see you liked my stuff that much. she does look cute on that objector :D
cheers!
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>>577901776
When is Teen Oppailivia getting plowed on her desk
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>>577901776
Looks like shit fren
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>>577901776
Looks great fren
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>>577902107
>When is Teen Oppailivia getting plowed on her desk
i remember i have to do that for my redemption, look out for it this thursday with other tf2 doodles
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>>577903897
(also sorry for the wait, got backed up with art trades and comms)
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>>577903897
>>577902107

nobody fucking cares what you and your boyfriend do, get the fuck off my thread
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>>577903897
>>577903973
It's all good just checkin' in
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>>577904058
and no one fucking cares what (you) think, get the fuck out of MY thread
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>>577904058
I care
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>>577903973
>comms
how many keys for you to draw an anime girl wearing my unusual
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>>577904185
>>577904119

great, one person samefagging for the artist (maybe even the artist himself), terrific
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>>577904352
big girl thinking you speak for every poster in the thread
get the fuck out already
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>>577904464
you're sooooo cool posting from your phone and pc, maybe even unchecking on 4chanx? tranime sis
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>>577904581
you are fighting a losing battle and choosing to cope and seethe rather than walk away
the hill you have chosen to die on is "drawfriend provides free art to the thread and only one person could possibly like this"
absolutely pathetic
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>>577904581
turkroach moment
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>>577904723
sure sure, i fully convinced that you dick suckers take a cut from his comms. buy an ad, instead of coming in here and samefagging.
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what did you do in TF2 today?
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>i fully convinced
ESL turkroach moment
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What is it about her that makes him squirm so much?
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>>577876005
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>>577904841
yeah either that or its the same artist posing as his fans to gather an audience
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>>577905069
he's still seething he spent 2 years of his life trying to force a meme only for an artist with actual talent to walk in and be liked over him
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>>577904892
had baby making sex with shiver
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>>577905381
you can't do that in TF2
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>>577905465
you can with the right mods
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>>577694564
>
the internet used to be a safe space for weirdos to express themselves without taking it into the real world, autists already get bullied irl, fuck off and let us have a safe space
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>>577897856
based scout loadout
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>close range ambush class has the lowest dps primary weapon
Bravo Valve
Bravo Robin Walker
Bravo John Cook
Bravo Ian Caughley
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>>577907145
>close range ambush class
*literal noob/thirdie/woman class
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>>577876005
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>>577907145
syringe gun is lower
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>>577876005
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>>577880719
sovl
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>>577904841
>>577905209
samefag moment
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>>577913872
cry about and get of my thread
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>>577913872
It's sad how he tries to call anyone else a samefag when he blatantly samefags
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>cry about and get of
ESL turkroach moment
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>>577913993
>>577914049
samefag
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>n-no u
Pathetic.
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oops you caught me sis
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>>577913962
>cry about and get of my thread
what a fucking retard
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>>577914218
your falseflag didn't even work because you had to wait the 2 minutes to samefag and got beat
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>>577913962
>>577914087
I can easily do this as well, you worthless pedophile.
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>>577914270
>>577914049
having reddit levels of grammar snobbish attitude

>hurr durr you have a typo o 2
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wah waaah cry more turknigger
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>>577914310
>2 minutes
Not even a minute, faggot.
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its bad enough this olivia nigger posts here but s it not enough that he has to ocme back and forth from his shitty drawthreads to tf2g? im saddened that he's convinced himself he has "fans"
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>turkroach is having a meltdown
Are you going to post csam now?
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>>577914428
>raging so hard that he's writing shittier the more he replies
fucking kek
rent free in his mind
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>>577914419
You're not fooling anyone little bro, try harder next time
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enough of this nonsense
post your favorite 5cp map
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>>577914519
tears are streaming down his face as he angrily types on his phone kek
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>>577914554
>was posting in 2 min
>SEE GUYS YOU NEED TO POST TWO MINS TO SAMEFAG
also
>little bro
You have to be 18+ to post here
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>>577914591
I like Yukon
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>>577914621
>Anonymous 08/18/26(Tue)10:39:37 No.577914621▶
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>>577914641
>>was posting in 2 min
Yeah, exactly as I said, which you tried to dispute. You're not very good at this.
>also
>>little bro
You're right, my bad little sis*
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>>577914681
i actually like yukon quite a bit, but there's always a fucking engineer exploiting out of bounds to put a sentry inside a wall
i like freight
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>>577914760
You know full well that you only need 1 min to post, even then it's shorter if random.

Take "go to reddit" as an advice than an insult.
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>>577914681
full?
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>oliviabro posts one (1) time 4 hours ago
>turkfloydfaggot melts down for 4 hours straight
honestly amazing the power he has over this waste of air
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>>577914887
Full Yukon yes.
https://x.com/BreadblackNSFW/status/1803095240670093714
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>>577914853
>an advice
It's actually 90 seconds, unless you're a goypass user newfag-ESL-kun. Take your own advice.
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>>577914976
that artist's pfp is a throwback goddamn
also doesn't he make like a ton of bbc stuff
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>>577914902
Ok first of all, you pedos keep shitting up this thread, ı try to get back on the topic of the game TEAM FORTRESS 2, but nooooooooo you niggers get your dick hard over a child may i remind you,

you do you sis

i am biding my time, some day youre going to forget about this drawnigger, and we can all be on our merry way
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>>577915010
>2 mins
>achkually 1 min like you said so go back incel!
The mental gymnanistics here is amazing.
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>>577914976
bro, that body type is total sex
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>gymnanistics
oh he is melting down HARD
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>>577915091
>>577915179
>genuinely crying
It's ok, Demofloyd. Maybe post your fetish elsewhere lmao
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>>577915219
>Maybe post your fetish elsewhere lmao
same to you nigger
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>>577915219
I was quoting his ESL babble dummy
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>>577915274
>literally admits
lmao
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>>577915296
get out off my thread
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>>577915091
have you considered that maybe you should just let people enjoy things
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>>577915349
You do not belong here, pedo
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>>577915413
that thinking is the very antithesis of the incel
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>>577915537
i'm literally a virgin and i still don't seethe about what other people jerk off to
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>>577914591
I've never liked 5cp but foundry is the acception. Honestly one of my favorite maps.
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>>577876005
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Zesty is a falseflag operative meant to poison the well by painting anyone who has genuine concerns and criticisms is a massive chuddy crybaby
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no he's just really a massive crybaby
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>>577915091
you really should go back to >>>/r/eddit already
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577895085
What a BASED objector.
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Okay i'm getting confused. Is demo floyd the turk/viva?
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>>577922312
I'm a standalone 1 of 1 individual. I'm the same person that has been posting here for 13 years or so. I never post without my trip
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>>577922312
nah viva would never act so pathetically, he has his own bubble to support him. on the other hand, I think turkfloydcuckpedotard finally broke last night realizing how useless he is
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>>577922312
>>577922414
Don't feel too bad. Folks have been thinking I'm someone else since the dawn of time now. IRL and here on tf2g
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>>577922748
How did one shitposter manage to break you this hard...
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shitjeet fits better
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>>577926797
>shitjeet
As if implying that they're not synonymous with each other
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geg
https://steamcommunity.com/app/440/discussions/0/601912361526437489/
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>>577922312
Yes.
>>577922748
>he has his own bubble to support him.
Him and his phone.
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>>577537578
i started talking with this artist, but i think i may have said something to upset them. I feel bad now.
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>>577876005
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>>577876005
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>>577943252
Is that supposed to imply that I was meant to reply to myself without my trip and I kept it on accidentally? You must be new if you've never seen me talk about myself in the third person before
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>>577946502
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>>577946703
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>>577943252
It's been almost 6 hours, can you ease up on the schizophrenic meltdown over bagboy or demofloyd already?
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>>577946974
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577946645
>>577946645
The writing is even similar to each other. Holy shit you're so bad at samefagging that it's unreal.
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>>577947170
This is like an everyday occurrence for the obsessed weirdos
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>>577947207
thats all the funny ones, the rest are just song names
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>>577947709
wait no
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>>577897856
the good name/desc rolls are rare and far between but when they are good they get me smiling even years later
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>>577948095
ok now
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Gold Rush or Dustbowl?
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>>577950443
Which one is the best? Gold Rush
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>>577950443
dubspol
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hoodoo is better than both
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>>577876005
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>some official servers started having a single micro stutter every ten to twenty seconds last week
fucking amazing
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What should the next OP be?
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>>577922312
Demoturk is Viva’s biggest fan, and trans plus pedophile.
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>>577954948
collab of all the roll names posted itt
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>>577954948
>>577889309
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>>577954948
A job application for the NEETs of tf2g
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>>577954151
You can't say that about Olivia and fempyro enjoyers.
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dam pyro, reflecting my rockets, correction is needed
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assists are specifically programmed to fuck me over
this is not an exaggeration, this is not me being a schizo, i will do over 100 damage to someone, half a second later a teammate of mine will do the finishing blow, and i wont get the assist
however, some scout will chip damage me from across the map, 10 seconds later a soldier will deplete the rest of my health, and that scout VILL get the assist and VILL get the domination on me
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>>577960285
feels good to be an assistmaxxer
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>>577954998
Demofloyd would never go trans.
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>>577961102
He already is.
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Shartyfloydjeetcuckpedo is still checking this thread every hour I see.
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>>577962479
it's all he has
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>>577962479
How else is he gonna seethe about Team Fabulous 2 winning and Demofloyd being Pigshit?
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>>577961726
Source?
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>>577963361
This thread.
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>>577963967
This is not a fucking tf2 picture and a picture of what?
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>>577965432
You're right, post more ai generated images so we can laugh you out of the room
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How’s it going
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>>577967349
Wtf are you on about
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>>577967815
Yeah it must suck having to pretend you didn't do the thing you did yesterday because you're an unlikable piece of turd world garbage, meanwhile actual artists are beloved here.
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>>577967383
baby making sex with honey
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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>>577970884
you will get it once you convince valve to fix this shit >>577954879
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>>577960285
There's a priority list as to who gets the assist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSfnxqlj2T4
You could deal 99% of the damage, but if the final blow comes from someone being healed by a Medic then he gets the assist
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>>577950443
>>577952364
All 3 are dogshit.
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>pick up TF2 again due to boredom and the PvP itch since everything else sucks to play solo
>decide to check the TF2 thread
>/xivg/-tier tranny drama
>
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>>577979916
It's all thanks to one turkroach who doesn't ever leave and tries to start shit with everyone here
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>>577979916
I'd recommend kogasa.tf as the most 4chan culture tf2 server if you're from NA
Also a schizo will probably tell you that server is bad for whatever reason and bring up 3 year old drama but don't listen to them, it's more than likely a literal tranny who does that.
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>>577980531
>continuing to meltdown unprompted that he got told we don't want his server in our OP
rent free
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>>577980531
I've only been playing casual, I was talking about the thread itself.
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>>577980640
>INSTANTLY thinks back to that as if it happened 1 day ago
>""we""
lmao nah we live in your head rent free.
>>577980663
Yeah I'm just recommending it because that information is the only value you'll get here other than seeing OC, unless you're willing to cope with reading schizo posts constantly.
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you're the one bringing it up all the time bud
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sure is tf2 in here, i'm real impressed
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>>577981626
>>577981678
You can cope all you want, I'm just giving him an easy path to play the game (Team Fortress 2) with people who aren't obnoxious instead of reading your dogshit, zero value posts
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>>577981678
He's not wrong though.
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Shupo status?
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but the fags there -are- obnoxious
you're here right now as an example
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>>577983509
>sharty
That's castaway you're thinking of
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>>577983804
no, I'm not
/bant/ became a sharty colony after /qa/ was deleted and never recovered and koga is the /bant/ server
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>>577983150
raped and gaped
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yord status?
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>>577984216
Even thought it's unfortunate what happened to /bant/, kogasa doesn't have all that weird moralfag shit common in sharty adjacent places (like casta does). You can still spray or say whatever you want.
Also unrelated but it's sad how they all just migrated to /bant/ and ruined that place, making it /qa/ 2.0, it's basically a mini sharty by this point.
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>>577984904
>it's sad how they all just migrated to /bant/ and ruined that place, making it /qa/ 2.0, it's basically a mini sharty by this point.
I can agree on that, but unfortunately since kogastopia still advertises itself as the /bant/ server there's a lot of overlap. At least in my experience
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>>577985651
this is the one
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>>577985651
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>>577985561
Well, there's nowhere else to go.
All other populated servers in the US are either loser kitty pound or uncletopia.
>>577985651
Nice.
The schizonigger got this pic deleted last time it was posted though
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Which team is the best and why is it BLU?
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EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
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Pedos lost
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schizofag strikes again
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>>577988412
Uh sisters are we allowing this dude to do this?
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>>577986549
Well, I told you didn't I?
We can't have fun OPs anymore, one of the shartyniggers got into a mod position.
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>>577988838
The little child from the tf2 comics is fun?
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>>577989123
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>>577989146
BASED
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>>577988838
Off-topic OPs aren't fun.
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>>577985651
>The schizonigger got this pic deleted last time it was posted though
the melty was so funny
I can only imagine how much fun oliviadrawfren has simply by existing
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>>577582374
speaking from experience, no they're not
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Hopefully next thread won't be as shit as this one
Ah, who am I kidding...
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>>577988838
yeah the mods are actually retarded, he thought I was someone else for *checks notes* saving and reposting an image on an imageboard
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I think my ritual post is gonna be a reminder at how fucking awful redwood is. Jesus christ holy reddit katy teh penguin of doom tier map design.
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>>577990936
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>>577986309
baby making sex with cat miku
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>>577963361
This is a tf2 picture and what a nice picture :)
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>>577998015
meant to >>577963967



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