Library Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/708906085669405228>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>577383617
sloplock :D
>>577472476Weird, I was told and ultimately led to believe that once you lose lane and are as an individual 3k souls behind that it's impossible to to overtake the enemy in souls.
So many people complain about Graves everywhere but she's one of those characters where i play her and go "wow this hero is shit", but also i play against her and go "wow this hero is shit".
Silver is still S+++ tier despite being the weakest hero in the game.How does she do it?
>>577472542Try this, friends build.
>>577472915I dunno how the fuck some people feed to her in lane. All you gotta do is shoot skulls and move backwards and all she can do is push the wave.Had some fucking retard die 6 times to her in lane yesterday. How the fuck can you be so bad at the game?
>>577472726i don't even worry about lane anymore most of the timeunless i have a really shit lane where my duo and i are both 0/4+ and our tower is dead before 7min, i am almost always ahead of my lane opponents by just box routing between objs and running an urn or 2 if i was originally behind
>>577472915she's not THAT bad she's just played by the biggest retards known to man. But she isn't overpowered either and if anything needs buffs.
>>577473202this, people just ignore skulls, but they're kos in lane every time, even if they're attacking creep, it denies her so much damage. from there, you just wait for her to whiff her grasp and she's falls over if you push her with 2 people.
With the latest matchmaking update, Yoshi has doomed the game. Allow me to explain:Inflationary MMR. You can climb with a negative win rate due to the winstreak bonuses as well as the rank demotion protection. This will lead to the same problem in rivals - huge amounts of turboshitters with thousands of games in every rank who barely know how to play the game. In fact, it will most likely be worse in Deadlock since the rank protection is for high ranks while in rivals it's only for low ranks.Unless the inflationary mmr is completely removed (you lose a set number for winning/losing always) the matchmaking will simply get much worse from now. You have been warned. Consider if you want to continue investing time in this game knowing this information.
>>577472915They need to rework the kit to have manual control over the summons or something, you get too much value out of her by default so mongoloids can play her and mongoloids can't play against her.
>>577473437rank isn't elo
>>577473202latency, I've played with a horrid connection against a competent graves and it's absolute aids. But if they have a stable connection+framerate there's zero excuse to lose to her.
>>577473534semantics. how would you feel if someone with a 47% wr over 3000 is in oracle? do you think they belong there? do you think it's fair to their team?
>>577473437I'll just stop playing ranked if that happens, standard still has mmr.
>>577473507that sounds shit, there will eventually be a pet hero im sure, but graves being able to control her summons will 100% lead to wave manipulation exploits. the creep already shit themselves when one somehow gets stuck in the rem tunnels. we don't need more of that shit
>>577473671>Disable collision with lane creepsWow. Problem solved.
Time to block this faggot Apollo again
What do i do if im only capable of playing spirit ivy nowadaysI used to play lots of characters with a high winrate but now it feels like I can only play ivy with her ult letting me have good map presence.
>>577473770
jhust fucking let us leave the game if theres some spic with their full name as their steam username + jjk profile pic
>>577473637no, you fucking retard. rank literally isn't elo. your mmr and your elo are fundamentally separate numbers. it works like this in literally every game. the matchmaker wouldn't function properly if you didn't lose elo on a loss with rank protection. it's eomm and its a form of information presentation to keep you playing, and it's why you lose like 4-500 points if you lose on a rank protection game.
>>577473836>it feels like I can only play ivy with her ult letting me have good map presenceWyoming calls.
>>577473836too late, playing such an easy hero has corroded your skills permanently
>>577473754what? it's not a collision problem, it's an aggro problem.
>>577473202She's basically a hookless bebop in lane. The whole thing about laning against bebop is that you can't get close to him, else he bombs you. So you can just play around that and he can't do shit except hook you, and even if he does and bombs you you can turn around and deal a bunch of damage to him. Graves is the same thing, she cannot do anything unless you step into her range, just play like you're avoiding bebop bomb. She doesn't have anything to close the gap (besides the wall behind you gambit, which you should be aware of). And even if she does, just kill her. She's squishy as shit and has two stamina.
These faggot devs would not create magic carpet if suggested today. Every change is retarded and anti fun. They want you to play every character exactly how they want you to
>>577473865Juan.Diaz.2014 will carry trust
>>577474060its because chatgpt doesn't have human creativity
>>577474009Then you'd set limits on how long creeps will be outside of lane/base and where, updating those limits as people test and abuse them. Doorman spent a whole year able to kidnap people before they changed walker/spawn aggro, I'm sure we can spare the time to figure out ways to bandaid over this.
Why does Venator feel like your gun deals actually no damage even when you're like 50k souls, literally no other m1 feels this bad to shoot with
>>577474314because you're probably missing a shitton of your shots
I have figured out the secret chinese seven build - you ultmaxx then buy Unstoppable AND Indomitable. The enemy team has to wait out your superior duration unstop and use two hard CCs to stop your ult, and then its already too late, you have already won the teamfightslop
>>577474565thats not secret nor chinese...thats literally just 2024 - early 2025 - Early 2026 Seven
>wraith throws a tantrum and flames me>look at results scoreboard>she has the same amount of damage as i, a supportevery single time. why can carries never cope with their losses without blaming teammates
I love the new changes to SilverCan actually depush a Rem wave nowDon't know if that was worthy of nerfs though
>>577474565did you know shooting people as seven does more damage than ult
>>577474639The chinese part is buying both items. Most Sevens will only go for one. The secret is to double down
>>577474715whenever I run in silvers in standard who never use their gun or cannot land slam fire shots I presume that's what silver players here are like
joechuck found in a ditch doorman lol at Doorman players
>>577474746indom is kinda useless late game because there are 345345 sources of silence just buy unstoponly time i buy indom is if they have bebop or mnk with unreactable cc and i already have reactive
is it better to play street brawl or the normal game if I'm new?
>no one has discovered the actual secret chinese rem build
>>577475106standardbrawl if you want to get good at fighting and knowing how your character works but youre limited to what the game decides to give you in items
>>577475106street brawl is terrible and completely detached from the main gamehop on standard and don't worry about running it down it's called limit testing
>>577475241This Street Brawl is fucking awful 90% of people just play the same OP nonsense characters in SB like Seven Victor Dynamo and Paige you'll learn shit all there
I wish valve would pick just 1 or 2 person every other week to tease whatever they are working on even if its like a small bug fix. Even after playing dota for years this silence between patches is still just so fucking annoying
>>577475364Street brawl is where all the trannies congregate and then post on reddit about balance. Avoid it like the plague unless you are coming off of a chat ban and need to get clear of the auto-moderation.
>50 minutes in>30 seconds till rejuv is up>Things are quiet for the moment>For some reason 3 people on my team decide to hard push middle, they get clobbered and the enemy team just endsAwesome
why are abrams players so impossible to hate? like its annoying when they get parried on your lane over and over and get murdered yeah but you can say that about literally any other character I literally cant hate abrams at all Wraith is a whole other story though I have never liked Wraith not once
>>577475926t. abramsfag
>>577475945nyo i play holliday and graves i've played abrams like twice in 2024 I think was the last time i played him
>>577475926he's one of the most honest characters in the game. his ult is literally worse than some character abilities
>>577475926anon you might be gay for gaybrams
>>577475926Probably because he's one of the absolute best people to have show up when you're getting ganked. If you get ganked by a drifter or haze in lane and an abrams player shows up they are 100% going to die or have to run.
>>577476219*jungle instead of lane
Why the fuck does Rem's 3 ability do more than Graves' entire kit? Why doesn't the character who's whole thing is supposed to be summons have more versatile summons?
>>577476464what kind of summons
>>577476589Well Rem's fucking does everything already so its hard to come up with stuff that isnt a copy of it, try replacing her 3 with a summon that runs to the nearest hero and grabs them, slowing them down or even dragging them to Gravesor nerf Rem's and give Graves those abilities
>>577476740>try replacing her 3 with a summon that runs to the nearest hero and grabs them, slowing them down or even dragging them to Graves...isnt that the point of the 2?
>>5774768312 is a static thing3 would be a zombie she summonsRemove the zombie summon from 2Put a zombie on 3, short cool down (like 3 seconds), with the charge system skulls use, they hone in on heroes (cant be used for pushing) to grab onto them, slowing them and damaging them over time. Also they can do sinnersCan be used to combo with her 2 since the range on it is so dogshit and you have to be already CC'd or literally retarded to get caught by it
>>577477035>zombies chase and grab onsounds useless outside of ult spawning multiple of them>they can do sinnerswhy? she can already auto push a lane
Can't help but notice the closest two characters to the RTS origin of this genre are utterly useless, nerfed to shit, with flimsy units that die instantly. Mobafags really hate RTS, huh? Makes you wonder why even have summon characters
>>577477159Somewhere this game went from a MOBA to Third Person Overwatch point and click and spam slop
>>577477153>sounds uselessIt's not, players will have to take time to attack them or play around them, it will give Graves more breathing room as a squishy close range low mobility hero >why?cause its cool thats why
>>577477159why do people still continue bringing up mobas and rts in the same sentence in fucking 2026, the genres have nothing in common except one being born from a broodwar map
>Have Abrams in team>He starts the game typing in normal english and trying to communicate>He and the Appolo he's with start feeding>Begins typing like a nigger from the darkest depths of AfricaWhat causes this?
I have become the alpha and omega of Victor mains, phantom here I come niggers open your anus
apollo 2 is overtuned as fuck, what is yoshi's problem. Why remove the heavy melee and give vamp/infuser in return, and then in the very next patch add the heavy melee back but at t2 this time
>>577477264>take time to attack them or play around themabout 5 seconds. if they don't explode anymore then you just heavy melee them. >cause its coolno?
>>577477365can you post your build pls
>>5774773985 seconds is a pretty long time during a fight, plus you can summon multiple >no?Yeah you're right the passive primary attack is a lot more cool and fun, you're being so retarded I'm starting to think you're yoshi
>>577477535your rework suggestions are mostly nonsensical. I don't understand why she should be able to automate stealing sinners, that's already a rem thing and that's annoying enough as it is.you say you want more summons but your only solution is to summon just a lone zombie that they deal with easily. is she losing her jar for it? her root? all of those are important for her area denial. someone suggested reworking what skull strikes actually did and that sounded ok.
>>577477687> she losing her jar for it? her root?Well nigga if you could read you'd see I say here it'd be replacing her 3>>577477035If Rem's summons can do sinners then why cant her's? makes equal sense for both characters, they got little helpers that can help do stuff>a lone zombie that they can deal with easilyIt's not meant to solo players, it's meant to help her out and be annoying, and it would accomplish that, plus she can have multiple running around hence the low cd and charge systemRead nigga read, you're so eager to reject something you ain't even thinking my brother, open your eyes, open your mouth and suck my cock
>>577477392They are beyond retarded and ritualist 2 at most, they have no idea what they're doing and the development team is actively ruining what was a promising project.How do you people not get this yet after 2 years and half of nonstop horrid changes
>>577477969they keep doing the >remove feature>add compensation buffs>add back feature without any other changes (usually in a better form) next patch or 2thing all the time. literal retards
>>577477960>I say here it'd be replacing her 3the point of her 3 is to function as a disable along with her tether. it is what stops from haze or wraith rocking up to her lane and just ricocheting everything along with having to heavy melee the crypt to keep the pressure up.adding just another zombie does nothing for her gameplan, it's just more zombies. if you want to suggest a real addition, why not add new zombies tied to her upgrades or something?
Your carry for today sir30 minute game
>>577477532Just type in frontliner or needs skill, it will be a 1 max build with suppressor, cold front and mystic slow as your first 3 core items for the spirit 4.8 spikeThe idea is to turn your unwinnable lane into a m1's worst nightmare by spamming cancer burst damage (coldfront + 1 maxxed damage) and debuffs that render them a cuck in lane.Its free elo right now and I will be sad as fuck once some nigger eceleb catches on and the devs nerf victor's busted ass.This is my ranked winrate rn on him if you're curious.
>>577478060>he thinks the passive stops them from doing anythinglmao
>>577478195that's a number problem/tweak, the concept is fine. with the root it's supposed to reduce the threat of the mindless M1 who is rooted and not stunned in place
>>577478291The root is impossible to land on anyone remotely competent in a 1v1, the slow down from the zombies would help with that
>>577478360because they nerfed the root. the skulls already apply movement slow at her level 2 upgrade, they could just adjust that for the same thing.
>>577477960>If Rem's summons can do sinners then why cant her's?Because they're completely different skills and serve different roles?Rem helpers aren't summons in any way that matters, they're a targeted buff and a ranged map object interaction, there's no reason to compare them to graves combat minions unless you're just a deranged retard begging for any buffs no matter how nonsensical.
Headed to bloo
>>577478591>unless you're just a deranged retard begging for any buffs no matter how nonsensicalyou are talking to a gravestroon
I mean, someone with a brain could look at mcginnis and think "ah, yoshi gave her strong tools against spirit nukes" and then look at graves and think "ah, she is strong vs solo gun carries due to her WD drain passive and the crypt requiring heavy melee to get rid of". that's too much thinking doe
>>577478635thatsthejoke.png
If vindicta can fly why can' t Graves, her young teen body can't weigh more than 40 kilos surely the skulls could lift her
marathon is going to rape deadlock once it comes out of alpha
>>577478698But she isn't strong against solo gun carries
>>577478591>its nonsensical because...I said so!There is nothing nonsensical nor conflicting with the established world of Deadlock that makes zombie summons being able to also interact with objects nonsensical
>>577478840but they move like retards, how would they perfect hit a sinners? checkmate
I'll be back in the high life again.
>drifter and I demolish our lane>geist tries to farm and recover, victor walks off and dies over and over>goes into maximum overjeet
>>577479109victors that dont farm and aren't going gun hybrid are throwing
>>577478820numbers problem, she has the passive, the root, the skulls requiring melee to interrupt the dps, and the tomb requiring heavy melee to prevent the M1 carry from ricocheting everything
>Actually having a good early game for once>Someone on the enemy team leaves so it doesnt countawesome
>>577479303If you see a victor building ANYTHING gun besides maybe monster rounds, then he is trolling.See: >>577477365Spirit victor all the wayTake that temu gun shit and shove it up your asshole
>>577479412even ssb?
>>577479412i get cultist + spirit shedder for gun spike
>>577479303>>577479412Gun Victor is pretty good if you're playing him just as a frontliner and have other carries on your team, you don't need that many items to do good gun damage and can go from there into more gun or ideally more tank items.
>>577479741thats what i said, if you aren't going gun victor you should be farming or you're throwing
>>577479442Meh, EE is already core to begin with and he's such a slot and item hungry character. Any gun item feels bad for what you're giving up>>577479548I used to build Cultist too but I dunno, you just don't need it. If you've decided to completely not interact with the enemy team until 40k souls then it can be fine... but at that point you're just soft inting your team in high oracle and above elos.>>577479741At that point you may as well just play Billy, Abrams or Yamato since they do that job better no offenceNow especially since you can swap heroes if your team comp has too many carries
>>577479914cultist pays for itself after 26 minutes and isn't a throw like egg
I really don't understand why people still think flaming their team is the correct play in 2026.
how do you play/build mirageI played 2 matches with him and he feels like a dud herolane is bully or get bullied but if you bully too hard they start hiding and just sipping souls, and if you're getting bullied it's hard to turn around with stacks before dyingoutside of laning he just does nothing that another hero can't do better, sure he can teleport but this is something that's wasted unless you're a 10,000 game genie who knows when to ult and where and why
Would a dynamo ultmaxxing +speed+veil be fun, or would I just get hard countered
>>577480292>playing a 42% wr hero
>>577480254Even when you get niggers who leave lane to jerk off while you get the CBT lane treatment, you should still refrain from flamingI only flame if they start it first.
>>577480254my favorite is when they talk about their last match in their current match and then frame it like somebody else was the problem and then play like shit.
>>577480293>is le off meta build funyeah if you're a cuck who likes losing and getting flamed
>>577480581Damn was it that obvious
>5:30pm oce standard queue
>>577480749God's punishment for being a aussie sorrytry not being the son of convicts next time you reincarnate
Is this a good build?
>>577480793Use this build please I beg of youYou are trolling your team with that buildHis 2 is the biggest bait ability in the game, useless dogshit.
>>577481187>>577480793I’ve never played ViktorWhat’s his 2 skill?
>>577481187>1k hp regen and 50% debuff resist is le badseekerSULTAN
how long until icefrog reverts haze into a ultbot?
i seen a silver in my last game
>>577481187how tf do even play vic without warp stone bruh
>>577481474Mystic slow is comically overlooked, pair it with the first point of victor aura and you can stick to people like glueDoesn't apply to heroes like lash or holiday but you were never catching them to begin with.>>577481350Something can sound good in theory but be useless in practice.Its why 2 is maxxed last, since the debuff resist only becomes hyper relevant by thenThe healing isn't all that great either, compared to max 1 where it deals a damage nuke + heals you a shitton then its clear and day why it doesn't do anything.
>>577481713you called his 2 useless, not that you shouldn't max it first goalpostbro
>>577481713ok but warp stone lets him escape a bad situation as well
>>577481790This playstyle is less afk pussy and more tempoyou are meant to at least fight sometimes with your team early/mid instead of warp stoning away at the first sign of troubleNot saying warp stone isn't great, but you have to make sacrifices on heroes like Victor. You can't buy EVERYTHING especially if you want to be relevant as soon as possibleHe's THE slot and active hungriest item hero in game IMO
>heh sorry we put the apollo and warden on your team that means you lose lol
>sinclair from 44 to 53 wr in top 5% games nowthe rape has begun......
do graves players deserve rights?
>>577481983>your itemsyou are exactly where you belong
>>577482187go on
>>577482169They deserve borgors
>>577482169they deserve a wife straight out of blackmore academy
when the enemy buys disarming hex and dispel magic is not in my L>R
>>577482496disarm and knockdown should be 1600
>The announcer straight up yells at the team to counter the enemy gun carry by finding a way to disarm them>Nobody but me counter buys said carry>Nobody but me buys anti healPlease tell me that once I finish grinding the hero wins and go to the ranked mode things improve at least a bit
>>577482572yes, even brick is better than standard gamesthe only problem is that more people use mics so there's more annoying faggots and troons and simps
>>577482395Give graves gf
>>577482572people don't buy anvils for vindicta even in eternus 6even in night shiftdo with this information what you will
>>577482805I'm beginning to think maybe a true rank reset is what we needed instead of this
>>577482805>buy anvil for vindicta>debuff removes it/counterspells it>-3200 souls>is 20 miles away so any attempt to force it is goneKnockdown is shit and the reason why vindicta is OP right now, just like mina and slowing hex Valve removed the little counterplay these heroes have by allowing them to just deal with anything the game throws at them.
>>577482805in dlns they can just use their movement autism to zoom up to vindicta
>>577482805you need to buy 3 anvils to guarantee a knockdown and she has 6 seconds of shooting at you before that happensin that time her team can react or she can safely disengage, and now you have three items on cooldown and 9600 souls wasted
>2026>people still think knockdown is a counter for vindcta instead of pstrike
>>577483234phantom strike still needs something else like an abrams or some shitand if shes positioned correctly the person pstriking is gonna get rapedand she can also buy indomitable which she often does vs some team comps
You can tell who is a soulless metaslave if they choose spirit over punch Abrams.
I don't understand what makes spirit good on abramsPunch is more fun
>>577483234By the time anyone can buy phantom strike she already took over the game.
>>577483307what if I choose pure utility and tank
>>577483342meta usually isnt fun
>>577483307Nice try but Im not falling for your autoparry
>>577483342>>577483582>going up>radius is 3 football fields>slam down and stun entire team for 3 seconds and take half their hpSpirit Abrams is fun though
>>577482805You don't need knockdown if you have Billy or Yamato, or any other frontliner if they buy phantom strike.
If I get graves on my team again I'm gonna fucking scream.
>>577483805Charging, punching and shooting is more fun than pressing 1 and holding W.
>*gets buffed*These are your developers being paid 500k+ each with several paid vacations per year.
>>577483970No bro you don't get it, sliding hurts my geriatric hand so she's balanced.
>>577483970No one plays Vyper because she's ugly and when they do play her below Eternus they're bad at her so she only gets buffs despite being one of the most busted M1s in the game for months now
>>577483992
>>577482572if anything ranked is worse because you're not just trapped with retards, you're trapped with retards who take the game more seriously now that they have a noomber to watch bounce around after every game. this does not make them play better, it makes them more obnoxious. everyone wants to call shots and plan the strategy, everyone wants to do midboss while the enemy dynamo and 4 other people are alive, everyone is very very vocal and bad about it
>>577483992>>577484026Literally the best performing hero everywhere and it's not even close, even top 10% ranked and this is before the buffs kick into the winrate.
>>577483970>phantom 2 is top1%sweet jebus
>>577484169>Literally the best performing hero everywhereAll ranks has her at 50%, this is what they're balancing on.
>>577473437Damn you're right there'd have to be some kind of seasonal rank reset to mitigate this
>>577484267>all ranks with the literal lowest of the fucking low drooling mouth breathing retards>STILL 50%>and STILL getting buffedThis just makes the devs look even more retarded
>>577484310Yeah. You also have to take what people are crying about into account. No one sees Vyper so no one says anything and the developers don't care.
How cucked did Spirit Drifter get?
>>577484382>my drifter went 7 0 in lane after rushing spirit snatchi think he's gonna be fine
>>577484101Ok but why is the enemy team filled with slightly better retards?
>>577483134>counterspell>dispel>indom>unstoppable>divine barrieryou need 6
>>577484068>only 700 matches in top 5% of playerbase in 2 daysGRIM
>>577484382it's garbage trash now, I used to 1 the t1 camp at 3 minutes then give them 1 light melee each and clear it in 3 seconds, not I have to give them 1 heavy melee each or shoot them and it takes 5-10 seconds. genuinely ruined the hero
>>577484589there's only 160k players worldwide in the pool
>>577484382I've only watched games of it but it seems fine still.
>>577483861but duuude she's really OP and free wins isnt she
>both teams have a degenerate grifter who never backs down and 1v1s until somebody dies and ends up 10-20>your team's is billy>their team's is drifterit's not fair even when the other team gets a retard the game finds a way to fuck you up
>>577484505because you're scheduled for your mandated loss. don't worry, it'll turn around again soon and you'll be the one with the slightly better retards.
Btw, is there a penalty for leaving standard matches?
>>577484267>All ranks has her at 50%lollmao even
>only 3-4 viable heros to pick in each class WE NEED LIKE 30+ HEROS LMFAO WHEN IS THIS GAME GOING TO RELEASE 2050?
>>577484578if their vindicta built 5 green items, 3 of which are 6.4k you can safely ignore her
>>577477316No one tell xer
>Lane against bebop>Never go past the steps>Do boxes>Only push up when someone else comes to gank
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>game against bebop>collect my free win since the game is 5v6
>>577486674This but against Silver
>>577482930Flyers are bad game design especially when devs think adding more cancer to stop them (and playing the game AT ALL) makes it ok. Harkens back to blizz releasing bridget to counter tracer and then sombra to counter ultimates both of which sent the gameplay quality spiraling to 0. Valve should know better learning from those retards.
>>577487507because even though she's objectively the strongest hero in the game she's exclusively played by brainfogged troons in pubs for some reason
>>577486674You should be automatically banned if you play spirit bebop you do nothing besides your hook
>>577485250bare minimum they should be pushing out a new hero every monththere are only so many flavors for Capture King of the Urn Rift before they have to actually develop something real
>>577484382He lost 30-60 damage on Rend in the late-gameNot the biggest deal
>>577487615Out of the 9 eternus players right now, not a single one of them climbed ranked with silverDew is the only with any kind of silvers games and he only played her twice lmaoThe facts speak for themselves.
>>577487734pipe down zoomie
>>577487579Everything you guys call bad design being stripped away from the game will just make it a bland smite clone
>>577488320I play Mo and Krill and I'm a national socialist pedophile though.
t4 spirit active item that let's you target an enemy to consume all your DoTs on that target, dealing 75% of the remaining damage and healing you for half of that. The damage is non-lethal.
>See the enemy comp>Got ready to get raped>Their dynamo ends up throwingThank godAhemFUCK SEVEN PLAYERSFUCK WRAITH PLAYERS
>>577488448t1 gun active that when activated bricks every storage drive of every player in the match
I just became hyper aware of the fact I'm using a computer. I always just be clicking things, dragging things around, typing stuff, double clicking....
t3 toggle spirit item that drains your stamina and prevent stamina regeneration but in return speeds up cooldowns of non-ult abilities by 40%
>>577488448>affliction w/ EE, activate item, one tapNah fuck that
>>577488605Mandatory on gun calico to further melt third worlders PCs
>>577488731no thanks, victor is broken enough as it is
>>577488824Wait calico impacts fps?
>>577488975As a victor abuser, I will say thisHe's only broken due to refresherIf you're smart, you can pull off some truly disgusting shit with refresher abuse. God help the enemy team if you have rejuvs and infuser as well
>>577488556seven is balanced though
>>577488448BLEED
>>577489037buy splitshot on callico and see what happens
>>577489067victor doesn't need refresher, it's entirely infuserthey should just remove it and vampiric burst
>>577489037splitshot+mercurial+capacitor make firework and computer work fire
decay should reduce all healing by 100% initially but it decays down to 50% over the duration of the debuff
>>577489145You're legit retardedIt has a short period and can be removed with curseOr just cucked by spirit burnThere's a reason Victor is the only real infuser user because the item sucks ASS. In comparison refresher has like zero counterplay since you just soak up aggro and stat check people THRICE at the most critical moment of the game (right before or during midboss)
>>577488751just make affliction not work with it, same as it doesn't proc item effects
>>577489395>short periodduring which he can 1v6 and kill everyone, and he gets to decide when that is>curselol
>Mo & Krill but they Combo every enemy hero within 20m
valve should make characters that are fun to play as and against
>>577489762dynamo?
>>577489727Don't worry little bricklowI have the perfect item for you>-70% healing reduction
>>577489240That is quite the colorful ghetto blaster but I doubt that a pc that would struggle to render this would be able to even launch the game
>>577489709>have an idea for a narrow use item>reduce its uses further
>>577489763Sorry bro this is Dota 2 2, you will get cbt and you will like it
can someone explain how sinclair can steal my ulti 3 times in 90 sec
>>577490286
>>577490349isn't this a nigger move?
>>577490349not sure what you're trying to say here but his cooldown has 85 sec cd and he used it on cd twice
Painter hero [came to me in a fever dream last night]. Plenty of depressed, weird artists around the Deadlock time period to take inspiration from.Gun is a paintbrush. Short range. Right click lobs a splotch of paint, dealing AoE damage where it lands.>1Paint a sigil on the ground. The sigil may be detonated by looking at it and pressing 1, alternatively alt-casting will detonate the closest sigil to you.The sigil deals damage in an area and knocks back enemies. For the Painter, you may use the explosion to "sticky jump", at the cost minor damage, granting you increased air control until you land.You can place multiple sigils with rank.T3 causes explosions to chain.>2Replace your paintbrush with a roller, allowing you to freely paint in the air for a period of time. After the channel times out, or you end it, the paint materializes, creating a soft barrier for enemies that slow them down when passing through (think Paradox wall). The paint may be destroyed by any melee attacks.>3Paint a portal at any surface. The portal leads through to the other side of the wall, directly perpendicular to where the portal was placed. You will not be able to place the portal if the surface is too thick. Anyone can pass through the portal. You may not prematurely close the portal. It lasts the full duration regardless.T3 causes the portal to be veiled.>4Summon a giant blob of paint remover, targeting an area and removing ALL (ally and enemy) ground effects from that area. All Sigils (1) in the area detonate. The area lingers for a second, granting allies resistance to debuffs whilst in it.T2 prevents the creation of new ground effects for the duration of the area.T3 disables (but does not remove) all BUFFS from enemies inside the area while they remain there. All buffs means bridge buffs, item buffs, passive buffs and even rejuvenators, should they die while in the area.
>>577490509it was on cd under the portrait
>>577490286Who were you
standard is fucking miserable + im comm banned so i cant tell people that no sitting under their base guardians for 3 min with rejuvs is not a good idea when there are 3 lanes and a full map of neutrals
>>577491463why does it matter
>>577491845If you have an inherently short cooldown, or charges on an ult it works differentlyIf he has refresher it works as wellI don't know if witchmail affects the stolen ult cooldown though
>>577490483If Sinclair copies an ult and doesn't use it, his ult goes on a 85 second cooldown.If Sinclair copies an ult and uses it, the cooldown reverts to 40% of the copied ult. If the base cooldown is 100 seconds, Sinclairs cooldown is 40 seconds.
>team starts fighting>go in>whole team runs away>I diewhy does this happen so often
>>577492495>>go infirst mistakeyou're supposed to split push 24/7 on heroes who can win 1v2 like geist, wraith, victor and mirage if you want to win
>>577491980it was wraith
>>577492849victors is the only one there who can 1v2
>>577491980>>577490349this shit is retarded, just like doormans 10 second ultit's insane how bad they are at really very basic balance choices
>>577480793I tried it. I think the build is fine for high MMR, the purpose is to play around ult and suicide bomb into the enemy team. At my mmr it felt underwhelming though as I didn't have enough greens for sustained fights.
1 holliday barrel with superior duration is 5 EE stacks for anyone wondering, seems pretty bad unless it was 6 stacks so you only needed 2 barrels to max it
>>577472476im 1-3 on calibration, i dont think this game is for me
it is impossible to play this game.
so now that mcniggis got nerfed because e-celebs complained about turrets, when are e-celebs gonna complain about puddle punch being broken because you can bait parries with it by intentionally missing them and then rape anyone with the next 3 punches for free
>>577494059We hear you guys loud and clear. Lycan Curse cooldown is being increased by 10%.
>>577493750Egg's gonna pay off any second man
>>577494278The match ended him at 0/15 and an unsold egg
>>577494059>puddle punch being brokenHow bad are you
>>577494059a lot of people already hate it.best you can do for now is to just buy rebuttal if he becomes your main threat and be fast and unpredictable with your movement.
Uhhh deadtards???? Which server is this?
>>577494998You tell me, phoneposter
>>577494998almost all of the terminally online deadlock "fans" don't play the game or are in brick so you never see them.
>>577494998Trans is the future, idiot.
>>577494786>spamming parry is good gameplay actually
Im really bad at the game who can i play to get better? I usually play warden or mo & krill
>>577495641Probably mo & krill and warden I think
wow i heckin love standardpeople so bad they cant even play mcniggger on rift
>>577496856even better items ahead
the entire server used to come when they saw the urn being ran, now it's just free uncontested souls for whoever picks it up first because people are too dumb to notice the icon change.
50 minute fucking game btw30k dmg, 12k healing, 1.6k obj dmgparticipated in like 20% of the killshahahahahahaa this is a fucking joke man
When will this game actually be done?
>>577497689dota 2 isn't even finished yet
legitimately what are you supposed to do with niggers like this? he was playing drifter. it's like these retards want their scaling and just turbo feed trying to get it. always taking shit fights non stop.
>>577494059You don't need to bait a parry. You can keep spamming punches even if they succesfully parry the first one.
>>577498389like the worst part of this is that he's in high eternus prepatch lobbies and he's been doing this for months. just runs it the fuck down and feeds like a retarded animal every single game. are these niggers buying boosts on off-hours or something? every time this retard is awake he's dropping scorelines like this. like when does a monkey like this actually derank entirely out of the bracket?
>>577494998>twitter>playing gamesSure, and people on /v/ and /vg/ also play the games they talk about kek
>>577498806>>577498389they give you 5 shields for hitting phantom 1 so this retard can literally lose 5 games, win 1 game and maintain phantom 1 forever terrorising top 500 players. it's an absolutely dog shit system. there shouldn't be any rank protection.
>>577498931are the shields not consumable?
i went healer kelvin and still had the most damage on my team (we lost)
>>577498785the bait is so that parry goes on cooldown, if they successfully parry that means they can just parry the next one too but if you intentionally miss and they parry unsuccessfully (because you intentionally missed) your next two punches or so are entirely free.
>>577499069you get them every time you rank up into a new badge lmao
Majestic leap on Ven is peakAbsolutely run people down and hit epic montage clips with ult
>I'm the only retard buying decayI understand it's just a normal game and you want to do big damage and be silly and all that, but surely getting obliterated by an immortal Shiv isn't fun at all, right? At some point you have to realize you're only killing him when I'm around to press the fucking active.
>>577499467>retreating with team>team with full health just full abandons me>no one casts spells at all so the enemy sees an opportunity to just pick me>enemy goes mid boss instantly at 17m>team feeds trying to contest>lose the entire game over itI swear these people are not human spiritually or mentally
What if support heroes had 8 active slots
>>577499193Okay that's insane lolSo its impossible to derank a full proper rank category down
>>577500068make it 6
>>577500215dealso when are you gonna make it happen, yoshit
>>577499193you're telling me if i didn't freefall out of ascendant after the OGNB noobs left i would be able to hang onto nu-oracle with a 20% winrate
>>577500360after the next urn rework
>>577474060I just want a skeleton bro to play as with the thickest New Yorker accent ever heard in videogames
>shiv on my team gets spiritual overflow
>>577501321Might as well if you have 60k
>>577501575he bought it at like 25k
>>577476043>Abrams>HonestCousin, he will buy superior duration and phantom strike and there will be nothing you can do to stop him from taking you to pound town how is that honest
>>577501920He's ahead of the metaOverflow Silver is real
>>577502157she said shiv thoughever?
warden is so fucking bad its insane
>>577502412im a he>>577502157i said shiv thoughever?
>lose game>flame some retarded shiv at 40m when the games about to end>some wraith player with like 6 kill participation in 40 minutes adds me>we duo>he just goes afk for two entire matches and ends games with scores like 2-2-2why the fuck would you want to duo up with someone and then just play a farm bot? like that's so stupid to me
>>577501969>*spends 2000 on melee resist so his free punch does nothing*>*purchases indomitable if shit gets real bad*Nothin personnel.
>>577502412Separate clause, illiteratebro.
>>577500180>>577500434unless you somehow have a 16% winrate you can't derank out of a badge. so basically phantom 1 is ELO HELL.
>>577502476non sequitor
>>577502573It's sequitur.
>>577502721ur mom
>>577502985Another Spiritual Overflowlet succumbs to their better.
that first /brawl/ of the day
>someone leaves on enemy team>all of them leave but one after they can>yamato remains>tries to kill our vindicta in side lane>as we end they yell back and forth at eachother, vindicta calls yamato a black muslim, yamato calls vindicta a fragile white boi>both spamming schizobabble as we end>game ends>vindicta says glory to israelokay im not gonna say nuke everyone in the middle east, but...
>checked the leaderboards>click bebopWell, at least his name is fitting.
>silver in my lane, on my teamNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>calico keeps trying to trade bebop and mirage in lane>she abandons it 6 minutes in to do (failed) ganks or boxes>infernus starts actually inting mid game and saying "end fast" in chat>still a somewhat close gameI think these types of games are even more frustrating than a curbstomp. You know you would've won if the retards actually tried or had more than a single digit IQ.
>>577504975You didn't earn that win
borgor
>>577505605but that borgor was a girl
>>577503558>enemy team is Victor, Rem, McGinnis and Graves>first round two of them get rescue beam (one enhanced)>if any of them don’t get immediately stomped out they step around a corner for 2 seconds come back fully healedthat was a very unfun tug of war slowburn match
all these updates and geist has been weak for a whole year do the devs hate her or something lol
>>577474060>They want you to play every character exactly how they want you tothis is my biggest problem with the game lately, it was so much more fun when you could do gun build etc. with every character. nowadays they make characters like venator with zero spirit scaling so 1/3 of the item shop is money better spent making your stun + melee combo oneshot or scaling your nades.The best part of this game is the whole 'no roles' thing. I've come to accept that the playerbase is simply too retarded to have that kind of system where any character can play any role because normies need to be told what their job is in order to do it. I have standard games where i hold look at items at 20 minutes and i have stomp dynamo and gun ivy and neither of them bought any utility, so support vindicta i become. and then my team asks me wtf i'm buying like...
What's up with m1 players being actual subhuman garbage that ends the game with 13 deaths 2 kills and lowest damage
>>577506059You didn't give me solo laneI feedsimple as
>>577506059either overwatch refugees with no concept of macro or leaguetards who cant aim
>>577493665calibration doesn't really matter. You're already being put in the games of the rank you'll get afterwards.
if you disagree you are bricklow
>>577506516Pretty ok but Geist is a massive WTF
>Silver le OP>Nerf>Billy le OP>Change shit ton of damage to shit ton of health
seven stun + tankbuster can proc spirit burn on all 6 enemies at once in a 30m+ radius
>>577507156too good of a bruiser and re-adjusted to being more of a tank doe
>>577506054As with most things wrong with the game today, this can be traced back to the March 6th update, when they made a lot of abilities useless unless maxed.
im bricklow for disagreeing with a tard?
>>577507357there's a ton of abilities in this game that would immediately warp the power curve if they had maxed ability upgrades. biggest example was abrams being able to shoulder charge -> heavy melee from the beginning. venator would immediately become the best carry in the game if his lvl 2 nade was default
>dumpster my lane in standard>someone leaves>game gets shutdown at 15 min>win not countedokay bro if anything that should count as 2 wins wtf
>>577507156Neither was actually op but Silver git nerfed anyway
>>577474060>Release Doorman, a spirit oriented character>nerf spirit for a good bit>people that wanted to still play Doorman figured out his gun is pretty good when built around>nerf the absolute shit out of his gun>becomes Ultman for monthsI get wanting a character to have a specific playstyle but what’s even the point of being creative with with 156 items in the shop if you find something that works only for it to not gel with the developers mindset.Might as well gate off items per chosen character at that point
>>577507156dying to billy :)dying to silver :(that shrimple
>>577505094She didn't that's for fucking sure. Died 7 times in lane she did, useless bitch
>>577507320I've seen enough nerf his gun scaling again.
>>577507357i am in shitlo, why wouldn't this be a good thing?gutting the spirit/gun scaling to homogenize the characters is a way bigger issue in my opinion. you SHOULD be able to max a skill, itemize around it, and that's your build. the problem is why would you ever build x when Y does 3x damage
riposte lunge needs to be holdable for 2 seconds, right now it just gets raped by counterspell
>>577508242apollo in general gets raped by counterspellyou can literally always counterspell his ult unless you somehow burnt it prior
>>577508242Fuck you retard if you can parry my bullets I can parry your stun
im queueing billy, I may be on your team; this is a warning
Silver is so fucking bad right now
>>577507840Goes both ways.Sometimes a nerfed playstyle is still very viable or even strong, but mobafags are hyper sensitive over patch notes or nothing but trend chasers
>>577508517Its extremely telling that its impossible to find a high elo player climbing on her lmaoWho is this hero for. No one on high MMR is picking her, she's terrible on bad playersPoor girl is homeless.
>>577508517I'm still rating her 1 fun to play against and 5 strong btw you're never playing this shit again
>>577508804You know they use that shit to gauge your skill/experience, not actually as feedback.
>>577508859Still posting on the forum complaining about how strong she is and suggesting kit reworks that kneecap the character btw
>>577508859silver is strong doe, she's not weak just because you miss everything
>>577509052If she's strong then why did the Silver in my game just eat shit permanently and get carried? Why are no ""pros"" or high elo players picking her if she's soooo good?
>>577509052lmao cope shitter
Silver needs to be nerfed more before they can even think about buffing any part of her kit, she can't be allowed to heal going into wolf form, can't build ult from taking damage, and needs a rough visual indicator of when she has nearly enough meter for her ult, similar to the gem Shiv has showing he's in rage. Then maybe she can have a lower ult cooldown or more damage or something.
Sometimes I want to intentionally throw away my ult as Dynamo right before midboss spawns so my teammates won't use it as justification to go for a midboss push when 4 of the enemy team is alive including Abrams with ult and Doorman, lose to those aforementioned factors, and then screech about "maintaining tempo" when someone calls them retarded
>>577509147>why did my bricklo teammate failyeahanyways, her bola is a skillshot, her kick takes practice to abuse properly, and slam fire can be easy to miss without landing the skillshot. takes too much skill for you or your shitty teammates.
>>577506516>>577506972What about Venator makes him S tier and Geist C tier
>silver upplayers still goingThese trannies don't actually play the game, right? It's impossible to be this delusional.
yoshi's vision is funneling everyone from phantom to eternus 6 into the same lobbies and then making it so you can be a 20% winrate nigger and maintain a phantom badge griefing top 200 games indefinitely.
>>577508541>nothing but trend chasersThis is why should remove the popularity thing in the build browser, the amount of Hazes I see do that 99% WINRATE STATLOCKER BIG DICK CARRY YOU’LL WIN NO REALLY build only to go 6/16/2 is driving me insane, even if they’re on the other team it bugs me. just feels like the biggest new player trap
>>577509583Silver needs active reload (doubles dps btw) then she becomes S+++.
>>577509658Builds would be 100x worse if they did this
>>577509520Address the rest of my post, and post rank
>>577509778why don't you just pick another hero instead of dedicating your life to bitching about a single one
How many of the current eturnus players have Silver in their pick pool? 80%? 90%? Surely most of them must play her if she's so strong and they are the best players so they must be able to utilize her.
>>577509935>deflectionOkay so you don't play the game. You'll also notice I spwcified Silver was on my team, ie. not me playing her.
What's up with Emissary players just jungling while the enemy team is getting rift and then converting a walker off itLike these retards don't push waves, they don't defend objectives and they dont show up for riftwhat are they doing
>>577510047I already know you're some deranged silver sissy begging for buffs
>>577509969https://deadlock-api.com/heroes?hero_sort_key=pickRate&hero_sort_dir=asc
power slash is the most satisfying ability in the game
>>577510219>lowest pickrate in the gameShe's so strong that people are afraid to pick her...
>>577509737It would require the playerbase to think about the build which would a horrible experience for 70% of them, maybe if not removing them outright adjust the builds popularity depending on rank?So you don’t get some 10 game Johnny Mcnewplayer trying some eternus build and getting his shit rocked because he doesn’t understand how his items synergize or work
>>577510141>deflectionAddress the rest of my post. If your next reply does not actually respond to my questions above, you consneed and I win the argument
>>577510075You have to use your mic and spam ping shit on the map, yes it's annoying, yes you'd think they'd know all this by now.
>>577505071>20 minutes in>Infernous is losing his over shit mic>demands Paige leave the game>faggot does>entire team quits afterwardsit wasn’t even going that bad
>>577510219Can someone explain to me why Silver was gutted but vyper is allowed to be OP bullshit for a 1+
>>577510075Contesting rift is throwing.
>>577510993if you arent going to contest you should be getting something else on the map that isn't our side jungle
>>577510910>Vyper>green reptile thing>Yoshi>green reptile thingHope that helps
Billy bros... the top EU frontliner is saying he's useless... its over...
>>577511146typical downplay
>>577506059Haze players are the worst and I have no idea why, that bitch attracts the most subhuman angry motherfuckers.Had a Haze getting furious I got the last hit on an enemy and then I checked his items, fucker rushed glass cannon as his first item. Went 4/14/4, screamed the entire time.It’s always a Haze too, in dozens of matches regardless of winning or losing or ranked or street brawl it’s always the Haze losing his shit
See a lot of builds for Doorman recommend Veil Walker but I don’t see the benefit, Fortitude just makes him feel so less squishy, am I being retarded?
>>577512114the invis takes him off the enemy map for easier/safer roaming iirc
>>577512114Just don't get hit. Veil walker gives spirit power, lets you heal in combat, and lets you roam better with invisibility.
when are they reverting this retarded ass burrow change ah yes I heckin love Mo and Krill being basically damage immune as he zooms around the map at mach 6 every 3 seconds
Is there a secret Chinese meta that I am not aware of where it's a good idea to try to force a walker alone 2 times in a row when we have no idea where 5 of the enemy team are, they have a Lash ult, our two other waves need fixing and you get tilted after predictably dying saying "just end fast" in allchat ? Keep in mind this is their 2nd walker, we already got the first one.Asking because this has happened three times to me today.
>>577512197Ah okay, that makes more sense, the speed bonus wasn’t that great in my mind since the guy can just pop a quarter of the way across the map whenever and the HP increase was barely noticeable, heating was decent but if you’re getting out of a scrap as Doorman you’re most likely already 3 buildings away enough for Fortitude to proc
Honestly should I even come back to deadlock? I never understood the normal game but had a bit more fun with street brawl.
>>577512775standard is pretty stress free for newbies
Start buying majestic leap on paradox
>>577513097is it fun
only on ivy can you be flamed for running support items on a support character. the second a game goes south shitters will avert their gaze from the 4-16 drifter on the team and point the finger at the ivy who 'just didn't go gun' as if the matchmaking system didn't explicitly put me into the team hoping I'd support
>>577472915she’s just really annoying, you hear her ult pop and think “fuck sake I have to go clean up a rock and zombies or they’re get a free lane” moreso than anything, that and getting jumpscared by a collage of zombies that got stuck in a wall but their AI decided to kick back in just as you walked by and kamikaze you for a free 700 damage pisses anyone off
>>577513190you need handsbut then again, you need hands with paradox in general
>>577484667The QoL mod has 6 million downloads
>>577511146He’s right, billiam is c teir and dlg told you this already>>577512114The shadowweave doormans mog the veil cuck doorman’sNot full gun but opening rounds+shadowweave+sharpshooter for 8k breakpoint makes you split monster
>>577509969SSSilver in action
Bricklow here, Why dont people just buy majestic leap and split push non-stop?
>full teamfight is over>silver hasnt even procced 1% on his ultk
>>577513915>but their AI decided to kick back in just as you walked by and kamikaze you for a free 700 damageoutplayed
>>577514068I mean that guy is just retarded so
>>577513889>Lash is bullying a teammate>bullied guy going 0/10 starts screaming at the Doorman to buy knockdown>Lash has Unstoppable>and the rest of us bought counterspell awhile ago>guy is full gun build Haze with 1 green (siphon bullets)I don’t understand
Why can graves just get Duration extender then immediately win lane with her ult and take your guardian?
>>577473158>Active Reload insted of QSR but still buys merc mag>No Titan Mag
normally I didn't care too much, but lately I've been checking my death recap and literally every single game, every time I die, its 85%+ spirit damage. What is even the point of having two damage types if this is what they're game is going to be?
>>577514496mute and forget
>>577514536>complaining about graves in august 2026self-expose
>>577509052>>577509520So why is her winrate low in Eternus - er sorry, I mean Oracle - where people are good and hit everything?
my favorite characters are Rem and Ivy :)
When are they going to add a real nigga hero?
>>577515015real niggas weren't invented until the crack epidemic of the 1980s
indom or unstop?
>>577514013I thought opening rounds didn’t work on NPCs/Objectives? Or by spilt monster you mean a disgusting jumpscare doorman that stuffs spilts since he’ll appear out of nowhere and chunk your health
>>577515015I want a registered nurse hero instead
>>577515510way too contextual on who youre playing and fighting to answer one or the other definitively
>>577513939That does look fun
>>577515510Juggernaut
>>577508804more mentally ill than trannies
>>577514336standard is so epic man
>>577514758This won't be answered.
What's the most satisfying skillshot to land in this game?
If you pick random in Jeet Brawl are you more likely to get shit heroes or something
>>577494059>get Omnicharge Signet as Viscous>puddle punch juggle a Venator>fucker got a airtime of 10 seconds while team shot him to pieces>’that’s a warcrime Vicious’I hope they never change this character
>>577516605Stone Form.
>>577516605Walking away from an enemy that is impotently shooting you after landing power slash with spirit burn and mystic reverb
>>577516605Bindicta crossmap snipe even tho it's hitscan
>Tfw 7th win streak on victorWhen are they gonna implement anti-one trick algorithms because I'm starting to feel bad.
When are they making Resto Locket not a movement slop item but a support/lane sustain one?
>>577516605Yamato Grapple, Ivy stone form, Kelvin beam, lash flog, lash grapple, haze dagger, doorman ult, apollo riposte
>>577516605>UpdateSilver bola from down town
>>577516605Genuinely good bebops that can cook around corners will never not be hype to me>>577516856Only if you are the one playing her, but in theory yes
Holy shitMeet the end boss of 50/50 matchmakingCarried him after a atrocious laneThey really need to make deranks an actual thing because this guy belongs a few elos below AT LEASTZero fucking way this guy is new oracle.
>>577517041you shouldn't feel bad for one tricking, but you should feel bad for playing a character who stands next to people and dies to win. victor is made for geriatric crippled retards who can't even press buttons
>>577515529I’m pretty sure it does but really it’s just a little overloaded on stats right nowThe tower range is like 17 or 18m so you can get the sharpshooter while standing on the edge and shadowweave lets you run straight up the lane without showing on minimap, saves a couple seconds from routing through a veil
>>577516682Really should be a random only version of street brawl the amount of faggots playing Graves or McGinnis for a free push is incredibly annoying, especially when you immediately shut them down so it feels more like 4v3 or even a 4v2 if they’re on the same team. I’m playing the gambling gamemode for silly shit dont be try>>577516789hard faggot I’ll drop a piano on your skull
>>577517242What'd you get out of posting this incredibly high quality post?
>>577516605Cross map giest bombs or max range prefire bebop hooks
>>577517391They butchered Billy and Silver (the heroes I enjoy the most) so this is my form of protestI will climb to phantom with the least skill possible
>>577517416I don't play Jeet Brawl but whenever I do and pick random I only get troll ass heroes. Should be able to pick like 2-3 heroes you don't want when you queue random. I don't want to fucking play Sinclair
>>577517364>waitfags have to play with yardstick retardsAiiiieeeeee I should've grinded rank sooner!
>>577515510I once had a seven build indomitable into dynamo and we just lost the game over it. Think of context like that.
>>577517364>need to make deranks an actual thingthere isn’t? I haven’t played ranked yet but I assumed that was a very basic and normal feature of any ranked mode of any game
>>577517242>there's shitters who unironically think landing stoneforms is easymaybe in omega piss low seeker tier or something idk. anyone else presses dash
>>577518237You get two protection losses for a normal rank and FIVE to protect you deranking from a entire elo belowLiterally impossible to derank even if you're this guy inting every single game >>577517364
>guy gets rape caged by cc>starts trying to mock my build as if it isn't workingwill never be not funny
>>577518237You get demotion shields whenever you rank up when it realistically should only be when you go up entire tiers (if at all)
>>577517414I gotta test this but I’m intrigued, heard mixed things about opening rounds working on NPCs/objectives so I never got it since I’m usually one of the few people on my team actually taking a walker so a slot meant more for fights wasn’t the greatest investment
why don't drvs ever implement ranked as a modified glicko score instead of these arbitrary ranks
>>577518774Because ranks make people play more/give people more incentive to climb.
>>577518450usually they like to turn around and blame you for being lash stomped or abrams charged
>>577518440>5 loss protections>in a game with a hard 50/50 matchmakingwhat? Wouldn’t that mean even if you lost 3 in a row you’d get carried next match by someone way above your skill level while fighting literal glue eating retards? While infact you are the glue eating retard that shouldn’t even be there?What?I’m genuinely confused by this design philosophy, wouldn’t that mean ranks matter even less now? Since it’s essentially padded with a safety net for the most clueless mother fuckers?
>>577518939you can still assign pngs to certain point threshholds if gamers need pngsDoesn't dota and cs2 already do this?Valve has no excuse
>>577516127Everytime I try to play this characer I get filtered by her slowass firerate. It genuinely makes playing her feel like shit.
>>577519207t. 0-11-3 10k dmg haze
>you can get a line from your character by clicking ping during the startup phaseCool->20 second cooldownGay
Buff Graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
>>577519110They have the data
>>577520071This guy wasn't around to know this was from the roof staredown days
>>577519057rookie healing numbers
>>577520318crouch spamming before the match was soul
>>577516605Long range sleep dagger, geist nade kill a mile away with no range upgrade/items, crossmap vinny execute down "river", venator nade bounce into direct hit final blow. Take your pick
i got my 15 wins with doormanwhich 2 other guys should i pick next?
>>577520318I was, just never thought to click ping, the snowball bug was funny but damn I wish making the item useful didn’t require playing every character on the roster
>>577520135This, but make the tomb shootable.
can't be refuted
if they nerf abduction they should buff bell
>>577521547um i walked into a bad position and died how is that fair
>>577521547This os like 08/10/2019 all over again.
>>577521547You have to actually be close a walker for those 8 heroes to displace you into it though
>>577521825Doorman niggers are dishonest and act like kidnapping you into a walker from half way across the map is fair
>>577522236just buy dispel magic or counter spell
>nigger doesn't communicate missing calls for the entire lane and we just get 4v2'd on a side lane by their lane while the lane guardian remains 100% HP>won't gank>begs us for solo lane on the side after we got rapedname the hero
>>577522313All the heroes in the guy's image have counterplay beyond just items>Lash, stay indoors>Abrams: Double jump>Venator: Avoid walls>Billy: break line of sight of chains>Bebop: Dodge hook>Holiday: Dodge lassoGetting kidnapped by a veilwalker doorman who afks at a veil and sends you to his base or walker just isn't fun or engaging sorry.Not even saying its OP, but its bad and unengaging game design
>>577521547>teleports you 150m away from your team in an instant
>>577521741See that's the thing, YOU didn't walk into a bad position the DOORMAN did, and he gets rewarded for it.Wraith also gets rewarded for doing nothing but she's the competitive player's special snowflake so she gets a free pass.
>have queue anxiety because I know I will be queued with retards>try to shake it and go 2-6>literally all of those losses my team was just running it down post lane 24/7 while we lost everything and I had to lane janny everything>proven right
>>577522652nigger at least state WHY doorman is so fucking shitty.>runs at you with veil walker>4>sets up his guaranteed comboThere that's why, fuck walkerman.
Deathy trying to psyop me into buying spirit rend and I’m not falling for it
>>577522865>he's the competitive player's special snowflake so she gets a free pass.Fuck no, I'm sick of playing her.
>>577520507Sinclair and bebop
>>577519207I basically have to buy swiftstriker first because otherwise i reflexively last hit then get denied before the next shot
>>577518774That’s literally what it was previously in the backend and what it still is when you hit eternus in the new system
>>577522652I agree with the other heroes counterplay for the most part with a few exceptions. Billy? Yeah, good luck breaking those chains, you could be behind walls and it'll still pull you. Bebop's hook is not a one sided interaction when it comes to dodging. Holliday can set up easy lassosI also like that you don't even mention Wraith who has no realistic counter without huge items.
>>577523604Same, I hate her so much but sometimes I get keyrolled by one in wolf and think 'hmm today I will play silver' and I have a miserable time win or lose because of her god awful firerate.
>>577490728>not on (You) on my exceptional hero idea
>>577523604>>577524000Actually thinking about it, she might be alright if I buy the heavy melee item purely for CS and just ignore her gun outside slam fire.
>>577523796why would they intentionally fuck every other rank then?
>>577483861this pic is every ranked game i play in a nutshell
>>577524408Because normgroids don’t need nor understand glicko and need the bing bing wahoo level ups
>>577523904billy's ult is just sorta buggy, they do break and he can waste it unless he just wants the free tank stats for a bit
>>577524517If it was reversed, Wraith would suddenly have 20k at that time.
>>577524517>only 2k lead with two kills four assists
bebop is such a faggot character with a busted kit, literally the moment a bebop gets ahead his entire team will play around him cause he has hollidays ult on a 10 second CD and a 40yd range so even if that retard playing him misses the ultra fast giant hitbox hook he can just afk to try again and ofcourse his hook doesnt hit minions like a bunch of other skillshots because bebops need to just sit under tower to collect free kills all lane
>>577524971kills in the early game are literally worthless
>>577524517>down 6k at 14 minutes Its time to throw in the towel bros. There's no recovering from this deficit.
>>577525129>hook>that's just holliday's ultlil gup...
>>577525129i just raped a game as bebop, was that you?
you can delete one item from the gamechoose
>>577525357Spirit resilience
>>577525349this literally never happens when i press f
>>577525349I love pressing F, bros
>>577525357guns
>>577525357Dispell Magik
>>577525279the issue is that i have a graves on my team while the enemy team gets wraith every game, try to keep up bricktard
>>577525357active reload
>main picks are calico, lash, bebop, GTwho should i add to the roster? funpilled characters only
>>577525274wong, you just don't know why they are valuable. hint:not the raw souls you get from them
>>577525713>overpowered characters onlyftfy
>>577525713>talon>funpilled
>>577525713paradog
>>577525357greater expansion
>>577525274>lanes keep feeding on cd>lose their guardians at 7 minutes>now you have no map control so you lose all your sinners when they spawn>the enemy gets free wave prio for urn/rift because they still have their guardians>you are now down 30k at 20 minutes as the enemy takes mid boss off of their "early game kills that are literally worthless"
>>577525886if he wasn't an ugly stinky old man he would have a 70%+ pick rate
NERF WRAITH AAAAAAAAAWHY IS SHE ALLOWED TO SHIT OUT SO MUCH DAMAGE
>>577525357Wraith
why not mystic slow on vic?
>>577525537i just hade a game where I F'd someone lvl 1 and then my garbage teammate went in and got F'd as well so i dash F'd his model and killed them bothvery satisfying
>>577525357Unstoppable
>>577525357Fury trance, items that exist for only 1 hero (haze in this case), are badly designed.
Bed wench
>>577525759Fine, early kills are worthless unless it translate to them also losing their wave and farm
>>577525713there is nothing fun about callico and gt
>>577526169the first part contradicts the second part; but close enough.
just realized i'm supposed to be going for headshots
>>577526020>why not movement slow item on the character who has movement slow on 2 (two) abilities, when movement slow has diminishing returns ON TOP of having a fixed minimum speed that cannot be lowered any further
>>577526408it makes a big different as silver if you learn to at least get headshots off of kick and bolas
>>577526185Causing seethe while doing a moderately racist plains indian larp is fun. Being resident roaming rapist (forma negrita) is fun.
>>577514321>use majestic leap>can't escape while it's on cooldown>feed
>>577514321magic carpet is better for that
>>577526430I buy mystic slow on kelvin and it sure as shit doesn't feel like there is diminishing returns ingame. I love when the poor fools don't buy boots into a kelvin and get practically frozen in place when beam touches them for .0004 seconds.
>>577526682beam already does that without mystic slow
what a balanced character this is
>>577526796mystic slow makes it noticeably worse, diminishing returns my ass.
>>577526990cope
>placed ritualist 4>go on a 9 game win streak, go 7-1 in unranked too>1 game from rank up to emissary>YOSHI TIME>5 game lost streak in ranked, 12 game loss streak total>havnt won a game in 4 days
>>577526972>40% spirit with 1 point into a skill>ontop of natural tankiness and inbuilt spirit resMiguNiggis
>>577527216>40% spirit with 1 point into a skillt3
>>577527191that's when you stop playing for a week after losing once and then if you lose again the next week you do the same thing again and again
>>577527191
>>577527381That was just changed lol.
Remember to report all Curse ult bot Haze. Zero fucking counterplay to this shit, zero brain power from them
What does she even do?
>deathy uploaded a video about silencer>now everyone's going to know about the free "lop a quarter of damage off the spirit characters by landing one (1) stray bullet" item
>>577524517I played with that graves before. Why handicap yourself in ranked I dont get it?
>>577527724make me hard
>>577505605
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4sF5uP06T68
>>577528728sexo
What if, Perma farming gave you diminishing returns when you have too much?>"NO, it's a Moba, you HAVE to keep it because... just BECAUSE. Also it's YOUR fault that a Wraith disappeared into jungle and you didn't waste time trying to catch her just to die for it"
>>577528981>dogshit complaint>retarded reasoning
>>577529054then give a better alternative
>>577529158put map pressure, take objectives, or raid the enemies jungle to force her to interact
>>577527724shoot gunnot die (this is important)AOE silence, ult level (undispellable by debuff remover)
>>577528981They just need to make antijunglers without also making them junglersHave Drifter actually be about ambushing lone targets. Don't make it so Haze can just wipe clean the jungle. Jungling is basically risk free because TTK is so high, there's so much movement, and your team can come to your aid almost instantlyInvading enemy jungle should be more than just taking it for yourself but actually stifling the farmers
Abuse echo shard Paige on plot armor max 1st before it gets nerfed3 allies get a 1600 hp barrier every fight, one ally gets 2200 with your divine barrier in addition
>>577507357>when they made a lot of abilities useless unless maxed.March 6th patch fucked it all up, but this is not the reason.This change is actually good for diversity because building around different skills enable different strategies/roles.The real problem is that they powercrept the fuck out of the game by making every single skill absolutely bloated with secondary effects and to "reinforce" the characters identities they made specific strategies completely eclipse everything else in viability. This is design of the new characters where if you don't build exactly around the characters premade 1-2-3 combo you'll be at a massive disadvantage, and they enforced that on the whole roster.This is also why the game just feels more aids to play also, because most of these optimal strategies involve some uninteractive death combo.
why are people building spirit snatch on apollo? does it proc on the 3?
>>577529865parry stun is long enough to guarantee 1 full melee
>>577529865Do you have like 2 hours in the game?
>>577529803I think at the time the game needs more finishing power but to me it feels a bit trivial to make these ap choices when in the end you will have most of them anywaysMaybe one day they’ll add another teir that’s exclusive meaning you can only pick 1 ability and it becomes more playstyle defining
>>577530064nigga when i had 2 hours in the game i didnt even know what a single item did i just bought them
>>577529414she now has 20k ahead of you because you didn't perma farm faster than her, then she teleports, ults and insta kills you, your fault for playing the game
2-8 today. nothing but niggers on losses of course. just had a game where my team picked 5 carries and then cried I didn't have farm on seven (they took literally everything)
>>577530681Was the 2 win the first games?
>>577530784nope every 3 losses I get a pity win handed to me. kinda getting fucking sick of this game.
>>577528981instead of nerfing jungle, they need to need movement, specifically for carriesWraith is a problem because at any moment she can at any moment throw a card, immediately teleport back to a structure or zipline, and still have stamina to dash or skip across walls for good measurewhy they insist on giving all of the squishy heroes free escapes instead of making proper positioning, CC management, and frontlining actually mean something beyond being an AoEslop vomitfest is beyond methe reason everyone bitches about M&K is because they're the great equalizerthe one hero who absolutely does not give a fvck how fast you are, how much mobility you have, how many iframes or stamina pips or whatever elseyou get grabbed, you're staying>>577529581Drifters potential as a counter jungler or actual assassin was seriously wastedanons meme about the Solid Snake Drifter but like that would unironically be such a cool archetype, if mechanics allowed it his passive obviously leans towards it, but there's no way to make it stick
>>577530681Why didnt you take farm tho? You post like you need somebody to tell you it's ok for Seven to take farm because its you
>>577531078they could rework stalker again. maybe something like a proper backhit taking 1 stamina with melee or something.
>>577531193thinking on it, I hope the item rework just outright gives more powerful light melee options. if it has the same parry punishment window has a heavy, there should be some strong items for it outside of lifesteal/spirit strike
>>5775300645
>>577530681who cares it's just standard
>>577501969he’s going to punch you, shoulder check you into a punch or ult you into a punch, even in your own example is a setup to punch you.What about this isn’t honest?the blue cunt is going to punch youhis best method of gaining back HP is punching you, he is going to punch you.If he wasn’t named Abrams with how on the nose Valve was with their naming conventions he’d be something like John Mcpunch or some fancy outdated way of saying punch like Latin or old German or whatever.He’s punching you bro
How do these things pretending to be people survive long enough without choking on their own saliva to make it into my games
I only play Graves
>>577531856actually crazy how people dont buy warp stone on pocket and just choose to die
Has anyone managed to get Deadlock to work on linux? I thought it would be pretty plug and play since it's a valve game and they're pushing for linux compatibility for the Steam Machine, but for me it just crashes on startup or I get like 1-3fps
are you still supposed to just powerfarm on Seven until 30k or did they remove thati get conflicting messages in game
>>577506516>celeste and geist D>graves over anyone>mirage and sinclair C>apollo C>vinicta C>callico B>wraith B>yamato AYou're an absolute fucking shitter in the most niggerest depths of hell, post a screenshot of your rank right now
>>577531940then you will never be in my ranked gameand thats a GOOD thing
>>577531987Do you play natively or do you run with with a compatibility layer. If so, which one? I personally installed Proton GE and it works like a charm for me.
>>577531749There is a medical treatment known as the Abrams Punch, that and the Abrams needle is a commonly used tool for Tuberculosis and Pleural Malignancies, commonly known to “punch off” a bit of the infected material for study or diagnosis. Might not be far off with the “on the nose” naming convention
>>577530681if you see 5 people buying carry items and you have the least farm, congrats. you have become the support. until they add a proper role queue that's the way it is
>>577531856>not a single measure against Lash ult on your team>27 assistsit's easy to see how you guys got fucked
There was a Viscous in Phantom here who said he builds more nuke but if he has a fed carry or he's behind he builds cube supportYou guys would win more games if you approached them like he does.
>>577525357Dispel MagicIt's a crutch of game design and will get worse if left in
>>577530681Nigga ur seven you take whats yoursClearly you don't have the mental to play seven, maybe rem or ivy are more your speed
>>577532548>4 carries on team>enemy team has some annoying nigger heroes that will auto win the game if left unchecked>carries can't go out of their way to buy the items required to deal with them, and my hero is not particularly good right now and lane was kinda bad so I do it myself>said carries complain about my build (we won the game because of it)All deadlock players should be hanged
>remove ONE charge from strike>becomes graves tierintredasting
>>577532746>1 free CC cleanse>crutchthat's a basic defense item blud
>>577531987literally jsut works for me
>>577533084BKB being mandatory is bad and so is everything being designed around dispel.It's lazy design.
The drifter is blood seeker. Hope that helps.
>>577533198CC cleanse, CC invuln for 4 seconds, and indom are just basic defense items where CC is powerful. it is neither crutch or bad design.
>>577532398To add to this, The Abrams Punch was most common during the early 1950s, Deadlock takes place sometime in the late 1940s (1949 if the jumbled mess of unfinished lore is to be treated as gospel)Which means Valve is ran by the most nerdy motherfuckers this side of the gaming industry or they accidentally made a deep cut association with a blue man that punches people for more health and a actual medical procedure only popular during that timeframe
>>577531090I did try. They were literally pushing to neutral and vacuuming all the camps. Even involving themselves in my clearing of them
>>577531987works on my kubuntu rtx 5070 machine
>>577473904see>>577498931hahahahahahhahahahahahahha enjoy your "competitive" game bro
>>577533316Okay every hero for the rest of time will build the same item because it's mandatory to play the game, good idea. Flash on every champ is good.
>>577533665if your positioning or reactions have to be very good, I believe a high level player can skip one of them completely for warp stone>flash on every champreturn to league of shitters
>>577532794yes. i have gotten into arguments with my teammates for going support vindicta, but spamming curse and knockdown is unironically the easiest way to win games
>>577532731>people thinking about their builds>in any rankMeeting a unicorn and using them to talk shit online is top tier I won’t lie
What is it about M1 niggers that compels them to never show up to any fight but also never push the wave past the fucking tier 1 camp
>>577534406I had a haze yesterday that dealt 9k player damage in a 30 minute game.He had ttv on his name, a haze profile picture and 1200 games as Haze in an oracle 4 game, despite all those haze games he had a straight down the middle 50% winrate on her.And no he wasn't pushing either.The reality is that m1ggers don't know how to play a moba they just jump into the game expecting it to be the next overwatch and then cry and kick around when things don't go according to that plan.
>>577533641yeah I'm actually just quitting I dropped phantom 2 to phantom 1 I'm like 2-9 today literally every single game I win my lane and then peer over to the opposite lane on my team and they're going like 0-8 and WILL constantly force fights off death cooldown. I just quit. game is absolutely infested with niggers. I was top 500 prepatch and now I get nothing but retarded monkeys who were phantom prepatch. it's miserable. uncarryable. enemy team stacked with duos that rape their lanes and I get a bunch of solo queue mutes that go 1-16. I hope yoshi gets actual literal cancer and dies horribly. the fucking faggot retard mishandled this game and all of this is his best attempt at a matchmaking update. it's 20x worse than it was before the update. way to go you fucking braindead retard yoshi.
how do I unlearn the bad habit of not spending my souls?I’ll be 5/0/3 and pushing to their walker but have 10k souls burning a hole in pocket but only noticing after my bullets/abilties stop chunking their health.It’s incredibly frustrating since I know I can take most players in a fight even below their soul count but my dumbass often forgets to look at that number until it becomes a issue, I get so busy doing shit
>>577535041bye faggot
>>577535107stop being fucking retarded?it's a massive fucking number on the corner how are you not seeing that and keeping tabs of your souls at all timesthis isn't a 5 step program it's just a stop being a retarded tiktok brained monkey and pay attention moment
>>577535110I can only pray for you and hope you see sense and quit too. This game is going to be doing this to you on repeat every 90 days btw.
>>577535282it's a game bro
so obvious this shitter friendly ranked protection system is to draw in casuals so they can sell skinsgame is DOA before launch imo. they care about money more than balance or competitive integrity
>>577535041I don't understand why it takes people 2k hours to see the blatant truth that these devs are beyond retarded and have no idea of what they're doing.
>>577535332yep it's literally>they get boosted into phantom 1>will now terrorise top mmr games forever because they literally just have to win 1 game to get their rank protected for 5 games againgame is dead. quit now.
I get the feeling we're actually much closer to the item update than we expect
>>577535526it's gonna be abhorrent dogshit like every update these devs have shat out
>>577535526can't wait for some NEW heckin icons and 1-2 new worthless items for shitters like indom bro! that'll save the game!
>>577535419isnt there a limit on how many protection shields you can get
who gives a shit desu the actual game itself is unplayable because the matchmaking sucks DICK. it doesn't matter if they tweak an item here or there or add a couple items. your team mates don't read tooltips. they're going to build the same retarded shit and go 1-14 every game and be rank protected because the niggers at valve thought it'd be genius to keep 20% winrate retards on the same bracket indefinitely.
the riot trannies have awoken
>>577534938>Haze player>abyssal dogshitFork found in kitchen situation I’m afraid, something about that character attracts the most sub-glacier temperature IQ human beings.Find myself often dreading seeing one on my team, means the coms will be a mess and nothing will get done unless you babysit the tard, if the idiot feeds in lane you won’t the hear the end of it not being their fault and if they do well they’ll order everyone around like they own the team, can’t really win
>>577535041>I was top 500Yeah and I'm the prime minister of Canada
>>577535610That'd be a good thing because the more things chance the more room for these overpaid devs to fuck things up
>>577531856>>577532596>ven/migu are the carries>both super imobile>no counterspells on either>crushing fists abrams>apollo likely didnt even win his laneit was so fucking over
hey guys sorry we spend millions on professional voice lines instead of hiring more devs to fix bugs and such haha
>>577535628no. if you drop to oracle 6 from phantom 1 and immediately win 1 game and pop back into phantom 1 you get your 5 shields back. you can literally be at 0/1000 phantom 1 and go>LOSS x6>WIN >LOSS x5and still be phantom 1. hope this clears up how fucking retarded the ranked update was. the game is dead.>>577535696I'm playing since june 2024 if I wasn't I'd have killed myself by now out of embarrassment
>>577531856What the FUCK is McGinnis building? She cant even proc tankbuster. Express Shot????
>>577535905and how has supposedly being top 500 prepatch helped you personally in life
>>577535650>someone with a 20% winrate in Phantom 1 isnt going to fall at Oracle 6 which is almost the same mmr>someone with an unranked MMR in shitlow is going to calibrate anywhere near Oracle
sorry guys abysmal dog shit is the best we can do. please look forward to more abysmal dog shit.
>>577535696omg can u say hi to katy perry for me big fan
>>577535905please kill yourself, that sounds like a good idea
it's amazing how 4chan used to be full of intelligent people that wanted to pretend to be retarded and reddit was the retards that wanted to be pretend to be intelligent and now it's flipped and you have retards literally astounded that anyone could be better at a video game than them. envy is a sin and you're going to hell.
>>577535261But I am retarded, often the only one cleaning lanes or pushing them while also helping ganks, usually have 2-4 enemies in my lane trying to break my guardian since it’s the only one not gone yet, im constantly on cleanup mode for whatever the fuck my team isn’t doing and end up so focused on combat that I forget to go to the store every once in a while, it bothers me, get me the fuck out of phantom I do not want to be here, let me go to baby retard low elo where I belong
>>577535526>If the match goes on past 30 minutes you can buy Legendaries from the item shop for 12800 soulsPlease yoshi want to abuse frostbite charm in regular deadlock so bad
If magic was real id pull a billy but with a cool ass dragon head instead
>>577536290maybe go to reddit then you retarded faggot
being top 200 in deadlock got me a high paying job in the banking industry
>>577536001>glass cannon+torment pulseevil wizard happenings
>>577536290>amazing how 4chan used to be full of intelligent peopleIn what world
>>57753633730 is too short, games enter that territory often and it would lead to too turtling to get legendaries I feel like45 would be good, thats the time it usually takes for a team to come back and win and anything past then is both teams being retarded (and needing legendaries to chop chop)
>>577536290>full of intelligent peoplepsychosis check, immediately
>>577536309>But I am retardedthen stop being retarded, that's it, that's the solution
>>577536290Okay, which hell?
>>577526972She's only C tier after the nerfs killed her unlike Silver who's S+++
>>577537076She still scales well and her walls can autowin teamfights by separating key members of the enemy team for you to rape.
>>577536956Fuck me it’s that simple, thanks
>>577537272>>577526972I hard won a lane (and game) yesterday because my lane partner mcginnis walled people trying to do our T1 camp and their heavy melees didn't kill the wall despite desperately doing like 7 of them total.This game is played competitively for money.
>>577536956What does one do if they’re forever retarded but like Deadlock
>>577537380All the pro scene is larp, yesI will feel bad once they catch up onto victor, it will take awhile like with Mcginnis but it'll happen
>>577537380The people playing for money are the clowns here. The game says Early Development but I suppose Russians cant read English
>>577537380>This game is played competitively for moneyFunniest aspect if I’m honest
>>577537550queue as wraith, haze and infernus
Is eido the faker of deadlock?
>>577537901who
>>577537901nah he seems pretty sincere
>>577537894who else is top tier for the mentally disabled?Those 3 are already SSS+ but I feel there’s someone missing
>>577537272>mfw when im killed by ginnis walls not fading when she dies
>>577538262lash
>>577538262kelvin, Ivy, mo & krill, seven, yamato
>>577539242I've mained three of those heroes
>>577535526infuser back to the cheapest item slot(that's what you get for calling it a dogshit item on anyone but victor/infernus)
>>577539242I love how people generally accepted yamato as a hard hero until yoshit pushed the point and click hook bullshit that was broken as sinall it takes is 1 patch/week for things to change
>>577539445I mean its true thoughIt so fucking bad that they have to give a hyper buffed up version of it to Apollo since if he's buying it, then he is trolling.
>>577529581>Jungling is basically risk free because TTK is so highdouble the damage of sinners and triple jungle creep damage
>>577539445Problem with Infuser is most people who would benefit would rather buy Leech instead
>>577539445tier 1 infuser was broken as fucking shit, fuck offno I don't enjoy infernus rushing infuser and dealing 500 damage with a single dash while healing to full every 30 seconds
Infernus is def for the mentalily disabled because these retards max flame dash last or worse hold on to the spell like its a fucking singularity
>>577539765I will now start buying infuser on apollo
after 500 ranked games, tier list of how cancerous your teammates will be over voip. characters inside each tier are unordered.
>>577537380>competitively for moneyPeople are DONATING (viewers) into a POT(nothing you gain but selected cliques playing for 2 years) in some dudes GARAGE (over the internet).. sure thats how casting starts but.. tournaments?!
>>577540553billy attracts really mouthy retards despite being a permutation of abrams, it's kinda fascinating
>Ranked is literally, solely, entirely just decided by who matchmaking wants to give the good comp toAh yes we get the post-gutted McGinnis while they get the Seven, fair
>>577540775Its too easy to start RP'ing as Billy because he is such a cheeky cunt. Please understand.
>>577540553>Infernous not at topInfernous is the 2nd pick for Haze that don’t get Haze
Why is every mokrill player always drunk or high?
>>577540949>he isn't versatile and can't recognize comp weaknesses in pregame
>>577538365Lash requires the most baseline simple nuance towards gameplay to play well he cannot compare to those threes playerbase
>>577540949can you get a trip already or commit suicide either is fine
>that one guy in voice chat that makes the worst possible call at every single possible point in the gamethat needs to be a reportable offense so these people can get muted.
>>577541338Sure I can, what can I do about it exactly? There's no draft system, there's a retarded grind-2-play-in-ranked system, it's completely anti-competitive >>577541390Cry bitch nigga
>>577541442I mute everyone that speaks
>>577541442All me
How do you fix a "failed to download metadata" I want to see the result of this match after the ISP decided to be a fucking retard and turn itself off for no reason
still no major patch huh...
>>577541572doesn't work when at least half of your team will listen to the retarded call and do it.bad calls hurt the game more than racists calling people the N word in voice chat, unironically.
>>577540553what fuckin’ Infernous players you been running into to be this kind
>>577541825uhh bro we just got an epic rank matchmaking update that is complete dogshit and lacks basic features every other game's ranked mode has, dont be greedy, you'll get your next patch in a year from now, in the meanwhile enjoy schizophrenic balance patches because the team has no clear design philosophy or backbone to stick with stuff
>>577541746Stop caring is the first step
>>577540553>usually niceUh those are the the 2nd most all chatting "nice guys" who go sour when you arnt all "friends"
>>577472915Graves is just a walking IQ check.The majority of the playerbase is low rank and retarded.There's your answer.The hero is absurdly underpowered and borderline trolling, the moment someone locks her in high oracle/phantom 1 games there's an instant burst of people screeching.Her damage is pitiful, her lane is feeding free souls to the enemy, her pushing is miles worse than mcginnis, her farming is meh, her mobility is ass, her abilities require the enemy team to be retarded AND her team to be coordinated.She needs massive reworks.
another ranked game where the enemy team gets a bunch of S tier metaslop and my team gets graves
>>577542337I feel like we might have won, but obviously it's going to shove a loss at me for no reason.
>>577542090>>577541552>avatarfagging with whores
>>577541552>Cry bitch niggaLike you cry because your parents didnt give you enough attention so you attentionwhore on /vg/?Sad
>>577531987Disable steam ingame overlay, download a performance config
>>577543019>its 2026 and newfags still dont know what avatarfagging islmao
I don't know what it is about MOBAs but they generate some of the most, passive aggressive, snide, egotistical losers on the planet.Seriously, what the fuck is it with these games that attracts these kinds of people.They always talk like they are on the verge of tears, and always mask their true meaning with safer words, not only that, but they always happen to have some cocksucking penis-washing duo to back them up so when you inevitably tell them to nut the fuck up and play the game, they jump in to white-knight for them. I want to wring their fucking necks like a washcloth.
>>577543257>erm it's not technically avatarfagging even though the pictures are unrelated to the thread and I'm the only one that uses themrope
>>577542907It will mentally fade away in the next month like pisssing into an ocean
>>577540553Wardens tend to spergout when the most minor of inconvenience happens but given that I live in close proximity to Russians and Ukrainians, they might give him a bad rep.
>play 1 hero and have 1 ultimate>sinclair gets to choose 6
>>577543436Half the pictures in the thread aren't deadlock related, they're called reaction images, welcome to 4chan champ.
>>577543746Not only that he gets to use it 3x as often
>>577540553I made a viscous player so mad once that he called me a cuck when I knocked him off the zipline from across the map, that was the tipping point.
>>577543746iirc sinclair has the absolute highest winrate in top ranks right now like a 62%it's an extremely low low sample size at the moment but the ability to swap into sinclair when you see a strong ult on the enemy team plus already being a strong hero might push him over the top, just a matter of time for people to wake up and start abusing it
>>577542090>clear design philosophy or backbone to stick with stuffThere will always be one consistent thing at least, Nerfing Doorman
https://youtu.be/wUZ6ktIUPvYrems theme song
>>577543828no one else is using whore reaction images you are deanonymizing yourself with your shit taste and retarded takesuse a trip so I can filter you
my aim kind blows and i'm bad at proc'ing Afterburn on the 'Fernis Burst Fire the only way to help this? maybe Arctic Blast shenanigans?
>>577544238>I cant stop thinking about you and its your fault
>>577544396you've got great lolcow potential, I predict you will suffer from schizophrenia in your 30s
>>577544551nta but your actually a massive attentionwhoring faggot
>>577544396I feel like this is the most female response but ill consider with a grain of rice. Funny post
>>577540553>assassins and metafags are retardedmore news at 11
>>577543127bodied that freak
>>577544663you forgot your reaction image
IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO JUNGLE CAMPS OR POWER FARM DON'T PICK SEVEN>IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO JUNGLE CAMPS OR POWER FARM DON'T PICK SEVENIF YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO JUNGLE CAMPS OR POWER FARM DON'T PICK SEVEN>IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO JUNGLE CAMPS OR POWER FARM DON'T PICK SEVENIF YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO JUNGLE CAMPS OR POWER FARM DON'T PICK SEVEN>IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO JUNGLE CAMPS OR POWER FARM DON'T PICK SEVENTHANKS>THANKSTHANKS>THANKS
>>577540553I don’t think I’ve heard a Rem speak in 40 matches, they usually just clamp onto your asshole and hope that’s enough to push you through a 5v6
>>577545062Mmmmmmm no! >buys items to make ball bigger and surge longer to push lane to end at 35 min instead of being a ult bot that only uses their ult 3 times in one whole shitty match like some dynamo... CAST YOUR SPELLS THEY COST ZERO MANADID YOU KNOW THERR IS NO FUCKING MANA IN THIS GAME?????NOMANACAST A SPELLHIT A FUCKING BUTTONNNN
>>577545571ball is fucking useless his ult is what makes him strong because of all the brooling, its an insane area control tool and eventually starts winning games by itself
Reminder the only thing holding back Rem's players from climbing is their balls.
>>577545062Motivated. Determined. Racist. Confident. Mentally untouchable. Notice I didn't say fed because no Seven is.
>>577543746Hmmnyes I think I will copy Haze ult.
>>577545062When you look at a Haze of any rank, you’re looking at people who dedicated their lives to a craft. You’re looking at individuals who didn't take no for an answer. They didn't let the critics or the people in the threads dictate their worth. They stood tall, they looked at common sense, and they said, 'I am the one who defines this game.' That is the energy you have to bring every single day if you want to be at high seeker
Is sharpshooter really a better pick than glass cannon?See people discussing the price to value ratio and while I do understand that Max HP cut feels pretty rough unless you’re well in the lead
>>577546831double down and get both
WHEN ARE WE GETTING NEWS ABOUT THE NEW CONTENT PATCH YOSHI YOU FUCKING NIGGERI DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE FOTM RISK OF RAIN SHIT GIVE ME THE NEW HEROES AND JUNGLE REWORK
>>577544054I don’t think the devs even know what they want from Doorman anymore especially with the frankly bizarre last patch that barely changed fuck all
>>577546881There will be no new heroes in the item shop rework next month. No news about when the jungle is getting reworked, but it's probably several months down the line.You can expect a minor balance patch to launch alongside the item rework.
>>577547269>playing around the doors as a teamimplicit in the design>CC for disruption/peel/initiation implicit in the design>bell with gun debuffsupport nuke with gun carry debuff>single target CC/lockdowndota style single target displacement. idk, doesn't seem like a grand mystery.
I'm too fucking n00b to get solo kills.what heroes should I be playing?
>>577547742Mokrill
>>577547742frontliners with strong initiation cc/damage (abrams and billy)pick characters (paradox, haze, drifter)
>>577547742Silver.You just have to take 30% of the enemy's health, at which point you become invincible and win by holding W+M1.
>>577546881I am wondering when the jungle will get some new models, at the very least it’d give some life to the different neutrals. although I would really like if they gave them some incredibly stereotypical New York accents when farming them>who the fuck is *you* chief?>fuck yahself this is our turf>eyyyyyy look at the balls on this dickhead>put the boots to em’, medium styleBut that’s just a pipe dream
>>577547656>slightly changes those but not reallyBam, updated
>>577547969lol
>>577548220doorman is a textbook spirit nuker/support dota hero
The item update should be coming before the end of the month... and after that, in October, the content update will usher the Golden Age of Deadlock. Be there of be square!
>>577548687Sex with Hoodwink
>>577548409Nether of them are referring to his literal role as a character they’re talking about the weird changes they’ve been making in the recent patches where they barely changed him whatsoever but keep tweaking him regardless
>>577548830they're probably trying to maintain his identity while shaving off the retarded degenerate shit he did before
>>577548745
I remember when August was considered being pessimistic. This shit ain't coming out until October lmfao.
Shy does wraith get an ult that stuns AND silences me AND stops all stam usage AND gets to teleport 3 miles away when she pleases? Who the fuck designed this
Is lifestrike even worth it on punch viscous? Its the only hero i could imagine even buying the item but even then its iffy. I mean it does add some damage to your goo punch and more slow i guess?
When did they add this retarded shit?
>>577549304>Queue into a ranked match>Get a retard on your team who has such shit mental that he's on a comm ban>On top of being retarded he literally cannot communicate>In a ranked matchthank fuck that's in the game
>>577548932>shaving off the retarded degenerate shitEven with the walker/spawn changes Doorman is fundamentally a fucker meant to be an annoying cunt that displaces you while pissing you off, degenerate playstyle is bred into the kit
>>577549481If I was in the same shitlow ranks as you you would wish I was on your team, comm ban or not.
>>577545512Consider yourself luckyRem players are incapable of shutting the fuck up
>>577549530and he will receive changes until yoshi is satisfied, try not to shit your pants over it
>>577549574Yeah, don't think so. Enjoy your timeout little baby retard
>>577549481You cant play ranked on a comm ban retard
>>577549705Enjoy ritualist or whatever shit rank you are, They could permaban me and I would stil outpeak you.
Mid Boss is WAY too powerful and needs to be nerfed or reworked. The fact that in late game it's an auto win to the losing team is retarded. If a game is within 40k souls and you lost mid boss you just lost the whole fucking game. Centering the ENTIRE game around 1 objective in late game is dogwater design
>>577549849anon.... your reading comprehension......
>>577549304ewww anon
>>577549481>>577549304>People desperately try to pretend like Valve is still le based cool company and not a leftist hugboxYou literally never would have seen this in TF2 or classic CS
>>577549606I WILL piss and shit everywhere but only because the brawl legendary items aren’t in the normal mode with absurd prices
>>577549862The game just isnt well designed in general, first 30-40 minutes everything is pointless and then it instantly becomes a single fuck up can decide the game, there's no real mid-game
>>577550291most bricklow post in the thread so far
>>577550291>jungle camps now fill an invisible bar to summon the mid boss, the bar is shared across all teams.
>>577550125I'd put it in that belly hole
>>577549304you have to be mass-reported in order to get a comm ban. you must exceptional insufferable
Why is every TF2 player in this game so dogshit? I've yet to play with one person who still plays TF2 who is good at this game.
>>577550125Deadlock is full of trannies and other retarded faggots, Valve would never alienate their main audience.
>>577549850And you'd still be the bigger loser.
>>577550379NTA but im Phantom and he's 100% rightSplit pushers are retardedly powerful with there being no wards or vision or way to prevent seeing them from happening.Mid Boss is a game decider past 25 minutesand a team can unironically just "scale" better then yours and if the game goes on for too long you just fucking lose.Walkers are also probably the most asinine objective in this game. It takes one guy with souls being damn near equal to stop a walker push. Why? Because walkers not ONLY deal a fuckton of damage and kill minions insanely quickly but they also stun you which is dumb as fuck.Why should I be punished for being ahead and trying to take an objective?This game does nothing but punish the team who is ahead, and then goes "welp you just got out-comebacked bro!".Comeback mechanics arent fun. They aren't fun for the winning team and they arent fun for the losing team who has to sit through 40 minutes of absolute drudgery to win a game.I will not be answering questions at this time, thank you for coming to my TedX talk.
>>577550000>>Queue into a ranked match>>Get a retard on your team who has such shit mental that he's on a comm ban
>>577550725>Split pushers are retardedly powerful with there being no wards or vision or way to prevent seeing them from happening.What good would vision do? You already know if you leave the lane open its dead to troopers so you never leave the lane open.
>>577550594Actually I notice that even when people cry to report me I usually only get the ban if I called someone a nigger, saying faggot or calling someone a rape victim doesn't tend to get me banned.
>>577547742any support, but the real answer is to just outfarm them until you can solo kill them since this is a moba.
Com bans shouldn't be a thing, literally just exists to sooth fascist/communists who hate the idea people can say things they don't approve of.
>>577549304This is an abrams player isn't it?
>>577549296All the melee items work really well on him but you should bail on a full melee build the nanosecond you see someone competent enough to parry, it still works but if that one guy has enough functioning braincells he’ll give his lower IQ teammates a reminder to parry, in which case puddle punch only gets value in really chaotic fights where someone is paying more attention to the Abrams stuffing a owl down Grey Talons throat than the sloshing noise coming from behind their head
>>577550594Yeah, i call people niggers every now and then and have never gotten a comm ban. You need to be one of those extra whiny retards who keeps micspamming all game to complain about every single little thing that ever happens to get reported enough to get a comm ban
>>577550916wards would tell me if theres still someone IN or near the lane so that I need to fuck off and go deal with it.Otherwise I can make the educated decision to stay with my team and get an objective or win a team fight.Theres also no good way to teleport or have good cross map travel and most of the time if you see a split push happening, they'll get half the walkers HP before you even get there.This just punishes the winning team for DARING to step foot outside their base, and then rewards the losing team because 1 or 2 deaths for a walker isn't dealing anymore damage to the team.So we just give them a free walker because I was on green daring to get Rift or push another walker, and because they're the losing team they stay far in their base we lose a walker and struggle to take one.It's not a fair trade at all and always rewards the losing team.
>>577550678>responding to bait
>>577550725>Split pushers are retardedly powerful >It takes one guy with souls being damn near equal to stop a walker pushhuh?>Split pushers are retardedly powerful with there being no wards or vision or way to prevent seeing them from happening.You mean besides, you know, keeping your waves pushed? The single most basic thing in this entire game? I don't believe you're phantom for a second
>>577551167I always mute and then report them for voice abuse :)
>Graves haters seethe endlessly about her and say she should be dogshit because her primary is no skill autoaim>Meanwhile Celest -barely- has to aim her primary while having ten times the range as Graves, more mobility than Graves, more durability than Graves and her zoning/AoE lockdown can't simply be destroyed and forces the enemy to actual move >Crickets
>>577551080it's for your own good because your teammates will lose their minds if you say the N word.i usually stop myself from calling my teammates garbage when they are because most people already know, at the very least save your words for the last 5 seconds of the game so it can't affect you.
>>577544052The current system is retardedIf you want to play an ult playmaker like Dynamo you are actively pushed to queue as somebody else and then swap.
>>577551167No you don't, I always say at the start of a match "I am a pedophile and I like to fuck teenagers" and I get com banned constantly despite that being my one message in the entire match
>>577551371You know i'm phantom because you think something is simple but it has layers.Layers you haven't seen yet because you still need to get out of Oracle to witness them bro.
>>577551383Your reports do nothing, I'm still queueing and calling people niggers every other game.
Man I really would like to play a different character but I don't want to grind the RNG mess that is standard, I love how people act like the current ranked system "punishes" one tricks when in reality it punishes and disincentivizes you from playing new/other characters
>>577551913I still one trick vindicta lmao
>>577551913just put the 15 wins in the bag bro
>>577551913I really wonder how this shit is going to work once they add new characters, shit is going to bottleneck so fucking hard
>>577540949lomein says that draft doesnt matter outside of dlns, its the player who matters
>>577551552An interesting strategy
>>577552064>Gotta play 10 matches before getting the new hero once>300 matches later you can play the new guy in ranked
>>577551913>want to play a new character>see my team comp is garbage>see that wraith isn't banned or picked>have to play wraith or risk the enemy picking herit's literally so ass man. I really do believe that one anon now that March 6th's patch ruined the game. Making all these old characters absolute fucking cancer.
>>577552064and then the night shift (((pros))) somehow are playing the character the same day in ranked.
>>577551371I have seen many times a full 6v5 fighting over a walker and that one random guy solos a walker on the other side of the map in record time, you would never see something like this in dota, but happens all the time in this game, some characters just melt walkers if they get to attack while others are a non threat
>>577552145>doorman rem paige mina on your teamthis is guaranteed loss no matter what, your eceleb is retarded
>>577552335it used to be more balanced but then the m1igger mafia complained and made it so only specific heroes can actually delete walkers
>>577552256this game will 100% have hero boosting services if they dont already exist.
>>577552064As soon as new heros release everyone will jump back to standard for a while so it's not really a problem.
>>577552064After you mentioned this I just realized how fucking cancer trying to unlock new heroes is going to be.>OMG I didn't get glorpshit>I'm throwing or I'm afk>please end game fast, please end game fast
>>577551913>heard ranked mode is only available to people with 15 wins across 3 charactersOh okay I should be in there then after a couple months of Deadlock->100+ wins on main>10~ wins for every other character>except Haze, Infernous and Wraith (boring ass characters)Oh I am a fucking no skill degenerate
>>577552609are you retarded? only one person can play the new guy per game. so basically everyone else will be pissed off
>>577531078>the reason everyone bitches about M&K is because they're the great equalizeri like fighting M&K because they actually make me think about my positioning and actually threaten space and i say this as a troonment character playerthe vertical range on combo does feel a little fucked up sometimes, i got grabbed on that window near side walker from near-ground level once
>>577552303I hate to say I told you so but having more control over the draft only makes people more unhappy.>Im forced to pick X or I lose at draft>Im have to swap characters because they have Y>Someone is trying to pick Graves so everyone jumps on them and verbally abuses themretvrn to blind standard format
>>577552335>I committed my entire team to one objective and lost another objective, how could this be happening to me?bruh
>>577552945I'm just saying the walker/tower meta is completely different from dota, in deadlock you will only ever see walkers die to split pushers
>>577552064this will not persist. it's just to please the crybabies who think people "trying new heroes" are the reason they lose.
>>577535041lol homo
>>577552685the simple fix to that is make low prio wins not count towards unlocking the hero for ranked, because afking or throwing matches is the fastest way to get yourself to low prio aside from just shouting "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" every match
>>577552945This is a team game with objectives anon.So why is it worse if you commit your ENTIRE fucking team to taking an objective then 1 guy?I've seen it many a-time in my Ascendant games and is why I just went to standard instead. Because the respawn timers are awful and characters do too much and walkers are WAY too fucking oppressive.There isnt a single thing in this game more oppressive then walkers. Walkers can:>Stun>Melt single opponents really fucking quickly>Can force you to move from behind cover and KEEP moving >Can delete minion waves really quickly>Are covered by 2 90 degree angle walls that are wide open on the opponents side which make them a nightmare to take>Count as cover that you cant shoot through with enemies but enemies can shoot through them (I might be wrong about this but its still gay)No other tower in this game does 3 of these things, let alone all of them at once.Guardians are balanced, base towers are balanced, shrines are balanced. Walkers are fucking abysmal shithead objectives that need to be reworked
>>577552473Doorman and Mina can put belt to ass if they’re built correctly->remIt’s over
haven't even seen a single enemy walker last game
