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Yuyu in a gym uniform...
>>577515184>Right now, humans can't go beyond Earth/Moon because moon cancer stops themIs that not just because the two cases we've heard where this happens (Extraverse, Moon Dubaiverse) humanity stagnated and presumably wasn't worthy of going beyond the stars?
Two Queens having a meal together
>>577515490A cringe girl and a prostitute
>>577515375Arc wanted humanity to go into space themselves based on OC3, she didn't seem to give a fuck.
>>577515276They really had to make Arc retarded/prim and proper to justify her losing, huh? If she was fully on your side she should've been able to solve the whole Moon Cancer threat by herself by just throwing it off the moon.>>577515461Skill issue, should've just eaten the planet and used it's nutrients to launch away.
FGO's story would 100x better if they scrapped Mash as a character and then just had Gudao have Galahad / Shielder's power. That way Gudao could actually participate in the plot instead of just standing around dong literally nothing in every single story arc. Gudaofaga will cope and say that he's a charismatic leader with supernatural willpower, but he's actually just a massive fucking loser with plot armor the size of a planet, so he's never in any danger, people follow him for no reason, and every girl either loves him or adores him because he's a self insert protagonist. If Gudao were a badass fighter, fighting side by side with his servants, and constantly showcasing his willpower through Lord Camelot (which scales definitely off your willpower), then their would at least be an in universe justification for why every Heroic Spirit trusts him and respects him. Past 2 would also have been gigakino too. Galahad "abandons" Gudao, so he loses his powers, and he's civilian tier now. Have him go through a story arc or two with no powers, but have him still kicking ass, leading servants, making plans, brokering alliances etc. to showcase that it's Gudao that's special, not the powers.Then have him manifest his own version of Galahad's powers, built around his own deeds and fame, so that he can fight on the Frontline again. Have his deeds be recorded in the Throne of Heroes because OTHER heroes have WITNESSED his valor and courage. Which would again feed into the loop that Gudao is ACTUALLY the greatest hero of humanity, the PRIME hero who's deeds were confirmed by the greatest heroes that humanity has to offer
>>577515490The worst part of Bob is her connection to Shillgan.
>>577515631>FGO's story would 100x better if they scrapped Mash as a character and then just had Gudao have Galahad / Shielder's power.You are so wrong
>>577515461Servantverse is beyond. And Nasu has absolutely taken it from a joke to extremely relevant at this point.
MAMA TRANSFER
>muh plot armorI've never read a single worthwhile post that complains about this.
>>577515631This but also Luvia is my helper character and we regularly wrestle.
>>577515758Servantverse lore is completely and utterly fucking retarded though so I'm not going to waste any brain power on how it factors into the bigger picture. Fuck Nasu if he expects me to.
>>577515730You're thinking with your cock, not your mind. My idea would elevate Gudao to an active participant in the plot, rather than a glorified camera for the audience. For fucksake, Gudao can't even say anything meaningful because he's supposed to be a one note self insert, so Da Vinci, Goredolf, and Mash have to do all of the talking in every story arc to advance the plot.That's why Gudao was so "bland" in the Babylon anime because people, even his self inserters, finally realized that the dude doesn't actually do shit. He's just...there.
>>577515806plot armor is an actual superpower in Torikoand then the bad guy literally eats the plot armor, it was crazyanyway fate grand order
White haired evil women with big boobs are our most important natural resource
>>577515772I volunteer as tribute
>>577516010women with big boobs are our most important natural resource
>>577515806It's literally true. Gudao isn't rewarded for clever planning, politicing, scheming, training, or organizing and optimizing his resources. He simply humbles from one plot point to the next, all while never truly in any danger because the plot bends over backwards to protect him from any harm. Any "mistake" he makes will retroactively change over time to actually benefit him. Despite never having an ounce of charisma or personality, every woman wants to fuck him, and every man respects him.The universe quite literally revolves around Gudao, and it bends over backwards to make sure that he's safe and never in any actual danger, even when he's fighting armies, reality warpers, eldritch entities, and literal gods
I think it's a newer one introduced in OC. I don't think it is in any OST up to OST 6. OST 7 was released last year but it's not on youtube. I'll go through all the OST just in case.
>>577515276Did you enjoy Archetype Inception, friends?
>>577516229EAT THIS! BETTER OUTFIT! CHANGE NOW!
>>577516356Ok.
>>577516089
>>577516229Only exceptionally large ones.
i cant play OC3 but i cant understand how it can be considered so bad when it has so many characters which are highly beloved like eresh, BB, kiara, the Tsukihime girls and so on
>>577516356>every woman wants to fuck himPaisen doesn't
>>577516356upvoted
drake, sanzang and makima swimsuit next year
>>577516546And its written by nasu. It cant be that bad
>>577516621actually it's Huyan, Lip, Tiamat, Kriem, Crane, Miyu and Shiki next year
>>577516546Doesnt have my FAVORITE = BAD.
Just beautiful. Tomorrow her 4th append will be maxed and 5 days later her last append will be maxed.
>>577516446Not enjoying the battles desu
>>577516524mama looks so good in everything
I did the main summer event and now it's getting pivoted into Ordeal Call 3, does that mean I need to have read the two previous ordeal calls to understand what's going on? I'm a bit behind story-wise.
>>577516446Not finished yet. Was busy the past few days so I've only started reading today. Just reached section 17, think I'm gonna take a break for now and come back to it later.
>>577516809omg kingprotea babu
looking at okki's ears reminded me I have great difficulty telling kemonomimi cat, wolf, and fox ears apart barring blatant bigcat ears
>>577516621You're on to something there, anon.First Rateup>4 Star Drake>4 Star Sanzou>5 Star Arcueid Second Rateup>4 Star Zenobia>4 Star Semirami>5 Star ShutenWelfare: Kuku (we all know Nasu loved her and wants to shill her)
>>577516710
>>577516826
https://x.com/i/status/2087964148734783816New Servantverse Lore Drop
>>577516809>Palter is a tablet babyAmazing
>>577516894As someone who just finished it OC3 actually doesn't spoil anything about OC1 or OC2. Maybe super mundane passing comment that flew by me. You may as well just do it now while it's here.
>>577516546>eresh, kiara>highly belovedLol
Should I drop this kusoge and start Arknights with it's new smooth and high resolution PC client?
>>577515631>power requires character to be a virgin for it to workUm
>>577517230*its
>>577517230play both, but yes start arknights, every gacha player should have tried it
>>577517230>arknightsrorrmao
>>577517187>lets pretend people dont love these characters
>>577517316Your not my teacher unc
>>577517260That's fine. Gudao is a gacha character so he's canonically going to be a virgin that never has sex
>>577515631>>577516356Gudao wishes he had as much plot armor as Shirou lmaoHell, the so revered OuS aka Miyuverse Shirou requires every other grail war participants to have negative IQ and skills for him to clear the entire war in the a single war.
>yfw Lilith singlehandedly save summer
>>577517489wow hes just like me
>>577516546When you have too many star characters they crowd each other out.Characters fulfill roles in a story and a synergy of complimentary roles enhances a scene. If you take out the comic relief and add another serious character, every scene feels more serious and humorless. If you replace all the clueless characters that ask leading exposition questions with copies of Holmes then you'd just have whole scenes of "*nods knowingly*"OC3 transplants a lot of strong characters out of their natural dynamics and then kind of rushes through them sequentially.
>>577517702Not a single good character here damn
Is there an index of sound effects on Atlas? I know they HAVE the sound effects, they have them there in the story scripts, but I'm looking for KP's teleporting sound, which obviously is only in battle.
>>577517702/alter/ will absolutely not roll for girls who wear the fucking crocs right
>>577517702The only thing I really have against that summer lineup is the SR that isn't the boob dragon. At least the other servants that aren't released in NA yet have designs I like
>>577517702>mfw
>>577517440pretend?
>>577517702>Take the single most gameplayfag DPS servant ever released >Make her a Rider>She's instantly shitThis whole fucking class is cursed
>>577517962I don't see Olga as a Rider here
>>577517865I appreciate they did something creative with the daddy/daughter duo but it's definitely not for me.
>>577517958to behave as if something is true when you know that it is not, especially in order to deceive
>>577517702>hm... how do we kill FGO so Aniplex would let us go
>>577518091Rider Olga will be FGOs first ever Eid servant
>>577516458nooooo Captain Ginyu but I like that ascension
>>577518096Hopefully this means they're testing the waters for other duo servants like Ryouma/Oreo and Castor/PolluxIf nothing comes out of it then may a thousand calamities befall TM, Lasengle and Aniplex
>>577517702Saving 2 years for best birb.
>>577518341why
>>577517702>2 Summer Kingprotea servants>But we can't even get 3 normal ascensions sprites for one Aesc and CielWtf
>>577516809Someone please synchronize and overlay the two proteas doing the worm so it looks like they're humping each other
>>577518413Because she's the obligatory neutral AOE arts gameplayfag catnip of the year, obviously.
>>577516526The bigger, the better.
>>577518426Fate is a Bigger lover franchise
>>577515375Arc stated she was summoned by the Moon to get rid of the AI humanity living on the surface. The NA translation fucked up by making it seem Earth was dead and it was Earth who called her, when it was actually the dead Moon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WE7ZlJrVac
>>577518413Because she brightens my days.
>l*pper
>>577518846Why do people just make up shit?
>>577519221woah who is this?
Why do I feel like BB cucked me with the Hakunos...
>>577519221>she's married so even if you beg Sigurd and Bryn they won't give their daughter to (you)
>>577519490Because you can’t read lol
>>577519234You can ignore every single post that says "The NA translation fucked up..." without accompanying script comparisons and miss literally nothing.
>>577517517>Gudao wishes he had as much plot armor as Shirou lmaoYeah, no. All of the bad ends are canon, so Shirou actually gets punished for his mistakes. Meanwhile, Gudao regularly survives fire fights, attacks from literal armies of divine spirits or divine spirit tier enemies, reality warpers, and outright gods that make Gilgamesh look like fodder. When Gudao makes a mistake, there is no consequence. In fact, he's usually rewarded for it. Remember when he got Da Vinci killed so he could save some literal who trust find baby? Don't worry bro! She's back, she's not mad, and she's a loli now! FGO is littered with writing like this too. When Shirou makes a mistake, he loses his servant, his arm, or his life. And when he really fucks up, he spends a literal eternity suffering as a counter guardian.
>>577519524>she's marriedEven better.
>>577519582Gudao is not an actual character this is the most pointless thing to get mad about ever
>>577519234Look for the script yourself: https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/NA/script/0400041751>Archetype: EARTH I wasn't obeying her. I was simply answering the moon's own request.>Archetype: EARTH We may have been dead for some time now, but it's still our purpose to honor requests from celestial bodies.>もう死んで随分経っていますが、天体の願いを聞き届けるのが私たちの意義なので。She is talking about the Moon being dead and asking for her help.
>>577519570You're right, but it's still weird to see this doubling down
>>577519582>All of the bad ends are canonThen the Good End is also canon, so Shirou canonically has giga plot armor.
>>577519730>Gudao is not an actual character this is the most pointless thing to get mad about everAngry? I'm not angry. I'm just baffled that people can defend Gudao's "character" or complete lack of it.
>>577519221New Miwa artbook? That wasn't on my radar at all.
>>577519743>Literally fucking says it was the Moon's own request
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlbIfu8YdwwNow that it’s over; here’s the official music video for OC3 featuring its theme song Wonderer! Do you like the video?
>>577519848Shirou's plot armor is nowhere near as thick as Gudao's.Almost every time Shirou is saved, there's a justifiable and reasonable reason for WHY. It's never an asspull, and it never feels unearned. Fuyuki Fire: Shirou would've died here if Kiritsugu didn't dig him out of the rubble and then give him Avalon. This is the exciting incident of the entire story and it serves as the background for the previous holy grail war, the origin of Shirou's shattered psyche, and the origin of Shirou's power Archer vs Lancer: Shirou only survived this because Rin sacrificed her mana gems to save him, which only happened because of the relationship that Shirou had unknowingly cultivated with Sakura and Rin.Versus Illya and Berserker: Shirou survives here because of Avalon, which is in him because of Kiritsugu Versus Medea in UBW: Shirou survives because Rin and Archer wanted to save him -- Rin being she likes him, and Archer because he wants to psychologically break Shirou before killing him, so he create a time paradox and erase himself from existence Versus Gilgamesh: Shirou only survives because Archer saves him twice in the fight. First with a Rho Ahia. Second when he shoots Gil in the head. Archer does this because Shirou has rekindled the heroism and hope in Archer's heart, which means that Archer now genuinely wants Shirou to succeedVersus the Shadow: Shirou only survives here because Archer decides to give Shirou his arm. Archer does this because he (Archer) knows he's going to die anyway. So why not give his power to Shirou, so that Shirou can continue the fight against the shadow in his stead. Narratively, this works because Archer is putting his duty as a counter guardian over his ambition to kill ShirouVersus Hercules: Shirou only wins this fight because Herc is blind, and because Illya distracts Herc. It's a logical sequence events for how Shirou wonShould I keep going?
>>577513161Saying stupid shit in bigger words doesn't make it less stupid. You stooooopid.It is not only easy, but downright essential in both moral (and legal) philosophy and ehics to separate human dignity from human life in literal terms (though religious perspectives tend to equate the two). One can consider the forceful termination of life to be an affront to human dignity in itself, but it's a difficult line of reasoning to defend for obvious reasons (the human no longer exists), leaving the damage, and thus the evil of the act, to be thought of in terms of the suffering it causes to others (friends, family, dependants, etc.) as well as the general fear of death and insecurity it provokes on a social level.
>>577520640>It's a logical sequence events for how Shirou wonNine Lives Blade Works was a complete and total asspull.
>Karna makes everything worse because he did something stupid and his personal honor demands he see it throughHe really exemplifies the pajeet mindset. Every single time he shows up, he ruins everything and makes it everyone's problem for the sake of his izzat.
To this day, no character has ever reached the depth Kiara has.
>>577516787How much FP did you use anon?
>>577521215I'm not willing to touch a hole that deep
>>577521215Her vagina is very deep
>>577520247Yes
>>577521215You're referring to her pussy, correct?
>>577521260400k
>>577521260Hakuno is such a nice girl she played house with a skinwalker so it would be less lonely.
>>577521260Every time I see this pic I must stop for a few seconds to stare at those tits...
Finally cleared OC3. Honestly, I found the Hakuno fight less annoying than the Moon Cancer. Maybe because I had less slots locked, even if the game tried to gaslight you into using Mashu.
>>577520879>Nine Lives Blade Works was a complete and total asspull.No? The rules of projection had already been established in the Fate Route and the Unlimited Blade Works route.The Fate route established how projection worked. We learned that the projected weapons remembered the speed, the fighting styles, and the techniques of the original wielder. Shirou even remarks that the weapons he projected were pulling him along and moving at speeds impossible for him to do with his own effort, all while executing techniques that were impossible for Shirou to know. Then, later in the story, we see Shirou project Caliburn with Saber and use it's Noble Phantasm to slay Hercules. Then, before the final battle, Shirou projects Avalon, which works exactly as the original did -- most notably with the intangibly effect, which plays a key role in the final fight with Gilgamesh.Next we have Unlimited Blade Works. Shirou projects Emiya's blades and immediately goes from being blitzed by Kuzuki (who was moving at servant tier speeds) to matching him blow for blow. Later, Archer tells Artoria that he can replicate Excalibur and use it's Noble Phantasm.Then in HF, Shirou projects Hercules' sword, which gives him Hercales' martial skills and his noble phantasm, Nine Lives. This is consistent with every projection shown so far in the story. After this, Shirou projects the Jeweled Sword for Rin. It's a perfect replication that allows Rin to use the Second True Magic. In Spark Liners High, we see Shirou use Triple Crane Wing, even though he'd never seen Archer use it. That's because he immediately know about the technique due to projecting Archer's blades.
Did it get banned somewhere else? What did we do to draw it in?
>>577520640>Almost every time Shirou is saved, there's a justifiable and reasonable reason for WHY. It's never an asspull, and it never feels unearned.Mf trained wrong for 10 years, and he said it himself that one mistake and he would have fucking died and crippled himself forever.He lived still anyway.>Archer vs LancerHe survived twice against Cu.>Redman vs HercHerc should have turned him into paste then rushed to clap Shirou, Saber and Rin while they were fucking each other.>Fate route HercSaber used Excalibur and lost, Shirou then had to use cs to stop her from using Excalibur, only to switch to a weaker sword Caliburn, yet they won anyway.Shit doesn't make a lick of sense, especially when he could use cs to boost Excalibur but Nasu just had to put that part in.>KireiKirei went full retarded in Fate, didn't finish off Rin, and when he fought Shirou he stood there like a retard flinging some mud. He used neither the super kungfu or cs against Shirou who should be vastly slower than CA Hassan.>vs RinHe should have lost, and only survived because the game allows you to make a progress once you clear Fate route.The whole Oath under Snow as mentioned is chock full of plot armor.
I threw a 100x roll in the FP pool to see if I could get a Hakuno but I actually got lmao 2cat.
Lilith is weird but probably good? She's got the Rider curse where instead of having strong specialized buffs, she has a large amount of low-numbers buffs that are partywide, because for some reason every Rider must be a hybrid support.Her actual damage is high from stacking pmods like her base version but suffers from the same issue that she's a one-off nuke because her modifiers are applied to her targets via skills and then lost when she kills them.Her really unique gimmick is being able to choose to self-sacrifice with her NP like an SSR Arash. As a high single turn damage AoE with partywide effects this obviously has a lot of application for multicore but there's an issue with running Arash with 16 cost for farming, and her characteristically high single-turn damage is not as valuable on an AoE servant.Overall suffers the rider's curse. Not unusable but could've bee a lot better.
I kind of want to gold Fou Hakuno...is 2k'ing her or Phantasmoon a better idea?
>>577521876>Mf trained wrong for 10 years, and he said it himself that one mistake and he would have fucking died and crippled himself forever.>He lived still anyway.This isn't plot armor. It's meant to show how utterly insane and inhuman Shirou's damaged psyche has made him.>He survived twice against CuArcher the servant? We're not talking about him. His fights against Cu make sense. For Shirou? He died in his first encounter with Cu and was only saved by his bond with the Tohsaka family. For the second encounter? Shirou stalled until Saber was summoned. It's not plot armor because Lancer was playing with him and literally taunting him the entire time.>Herc should have turned him into paste then rushed to clap ShirouNo? Emiya can keep up with Cu in melee due to Eye of the Mind. Unlimited Blade Works gives him a weapon output similar to Gate of Babylon. Projection lets him swap to the fighting style of any servant he chooses on top of letting him use their noble phantasm >He should have lost, and only survived because the game allows you to make a progress once you clear Fate route.Rin wasn't actually trying to kill him. She was just being tsun and edgyI concede on Saber vs Herc round 2 and Kirei though. Shirou still has much less plot armor than Gudao though
>>577518846>>577519743Without having delved too deeply at either works, this is a reversal of the call order that happens in the Tsukihime world and Notes, no?
>>577521851Someone took the gifted name from Tam Lin Janny and he couldn't hold back the calamity anymore.
DUHHHHH ME PROTAGONIST SURVIVE IMPOSSIBLE ODDS??? NO MAKE SENSE!!!! WHERE ME PLOT ARMOR!!!!
Zeltretch wins against the Crimson Moon = Fate TimelineZelretch wins against the Crimson Moon, but is greviously injured, loses most of his power, and is turned into a Vampire = Tsukihime Timeline Why is Zeltretch so important to the timeline? And what would have happened if he lost his fight versus the Crimson Moon?
Is this the peak of FGO?
>>577522876Wada you fucking RUINED IT!!!The third ascensions should have been an S Protea and an M Palter.
Why does this npc look like Charlie Kirk
>>577522864>And what would have happened if he lost his fight versus the Crimson Moon?Then you just get a vampire utopia, I guess?
>>577523090>Then you just get a vampire utopia, I guess?Would humanity get wiped out in that timeline? Or would everyone just be a vampire?
I’m skipping Louhi for Gamer Arc
>>577522864Zelretch is to the Tsukihime timeline what Sephar is to FGO. The defining turning point character.
>>577523283Me too!
>>577523283>no long hair>no femdom vibes>Tsukihime personality instead of her kuudere princess personalityI sleep
>>577522585>This isn't plot armor. It's meant to show how utterly insane and inhuman Shirou's damaged psyche has made him.>I would die if I do this but I live anyway>no you don't understand it's not plot armor>For the second encounter? Shirou stalled until Saber was summoned. It's not plot armor because Lancer was playing>believe me bro it's not plot armor>Cu is fucking weak that he couldn't even pierce through a weakly reinforced metal sheet and so fucking slow that he let his prey escape>Unlimited Blade Works gives him a weapon output similar to Gate of Babylon.Lower rank means Herc could tank way more.>Projection lets him swap to the fighting style of any servant he chooses on top of letting him use their noble phantasmWe see Herc fought Saber the King Arthur and he demolished her every time.
>>577523283I'm skipping both for... I don't even know it's grim
>>577522864Zeltrech is the basically the most powerful earth-origin character in TM. He's both the quintessential magus and the exemplar of what reaching the root and achieving True Magic looks like. True Magic itself is so powerful, so rule-breaking and world bending that anyone who actually uses it is inevitably going to effectively define history with their actions.In Tsukihime specifically, Zeltretch is necessary to explain why the Crimson Moon, an openly malevolent entity working to eradicate humanity and usurp the world, hasn't wiped out humanity yet. In effect it challenged humankind and lost because there was someone on earth capable of beating it. So now it pursues a more surreptitious method of meeting its goals, which is what allows the world of Tsukihime to be a modern fantasy story set in metropolitan Japan, and still allows there to be a cadre godlike vampires and their various ghouls and familiars all secretly working to rule the world
>>577523524>Short hair Arc is the real Arc>Smelly girl vibes are better>Tsukihime personality is the real ArcI'm awakened
>clear OC3wat now? I have to farm the 90++ node for like 40 days?
>>577523751Uhhh if you want I guess. I actually completely forgot that the event was still farmable right now. Does the 90++ have good item drops?
Kama Love!
>>577523427Arcu love!>>577523524All arcs are good arcs (short hair is peak)>>577523581I’m sorry to hear that anon…. who are your favorites?
>>577521708Trying to sound authoritative on this topic is somewhat undercut by your seeming ignorance of the past +20 years of meta discussion about the incongruity between Shirou pulling Nine Lives from the history of the stone slab and the fact that the slab had no history of being used to execute Nine Lives.
>>577523847it drops eggs at a better rate at least but that's it
>>577523206I haven't read the remake but in the original most victims of DAs just became ghouls rather transforming. DAAs and by extension DAs exist to destroy humanity and instinctively regard humans as food and are driven to kill and feed on them to compel them to carry out that destruction. They aren't the product of some competing strain of natural evolution, they're Elementals (like Fate's fairies and Divine Spirits) created for the express purpose of destroying humanity.So a world where the Crimson Moon won would just be a world where humanity is wiped out, the Crimson Moon becomes Gaia and then either presumably fills the world with new forms of vampiric life modeled in its own image, or produces an even more powerful UO vessel and moves on to its next cosmic victim.
Do you need multiple copies of characters for them to be good or does it not matter much?
>>577523538>I would die if I do this but I live anywayNo? It's if I fuck up, I die. But the risk is worth it because doing this allows me to pursue my dreams of becoming a hero. If I die, so be it. That's what you're supposed to take from that scene>Cu is fucking weak that he couldn't even pierce through a weakly reinforced metal sheet and so fucking slow that he let his prey escapeCu wasn't trying. He was frustrated that Kirei was making him act like a glorified hitman. And as the fight progressed, he went from frustrated to amused by Shirou's resolve, so he started toying with him. Cu was NEVER going all out. He didn't even use his servant tier speed once during the fight.>Lower rank means Herc could tank way more.And? Emiya is still extremely competent. I don't understand why you're trying to pretend that Archer Emiya is weak. Eye of the Mind + Projection + Unlimited Blade Works + Broken Phantasm is an absolutely busted combo. >We see Herc fought Saber the King Arthur and he demolished her every time.Emiya fought Cu in melee twice due to Eye of the Mind + knowledge of how Cu's fighting noble phantasm worked. Nasu said Cu could beat Hercules. So Emiya beating Herc 6 times makes sense, since he has Eye of the Mind, he can fight on par with someone who CAN beat Herc, and he knows Herc's NPALSO, we see Arched Emiya threaten to stalemate Saber in UBW with his own Excalibur. He knows he can't beat Artoria, but he's sure he can secure a mutal kill. Then we see him BTFO in Fate Hollow Ataraxia. Again, Emiya isn't fodder, and I don't know why you think he is.
>>577524275For 90++ usually yes, outside of 90++ you can manage just fine without
>>577524275Multiple copies are always good.Most AOE farming servants become "properly" usable at NP2-3, especially ones with trait multiplies like Arc/Aesc.But this is typically only matters when you're trying to 3T 6CE 90++ nodes, which yes is most of the content in the game at the end of the day but usually you can 5CE with even NP1 servants or borrow servants if your supports (which don't need NP levels at all) are high quality.
>>577524275It depends.In most case NP1 is enough for general use and there are a lot of meta characters that really don't benefit at all from extra NP levels, like Koyanskaya or Oberon.For a lot of damage-oriented servants, NP2 can be nice because it's a pretty considerable jump in power. Returns diminish for each level above that, so NP3-5 is never worth it just for gameplay and is something you'd only bother with if that servant is your absolute fav.In the very endgame high-difficulty farming content, NP2 is often desirable because it makes teambuilding more flexible (ie need fewer buffs to reach the necessary damage) but nobody just starting FGO today should be thinking "I better roll NP2 now so that I can meta-optimize when I catch up in 3 years"The best way to spend your rolls is to get 1 copy the meta support servants:OberonAltria CasterKoyanskayaAnd then from there just roll your favourites. If, at a later date, you decide you really want NP2 to make farming something easier you can always just roll it then. We're 2 years behind the jp server so we know all the rateups well in advance and can plan rolls.
>>577523947>and the fact that the slab had no history of being used to execute Nine Lives.The Nasuverse is canonically a multiverse, and Berserker Hercules will always be summoned with that Slab. FGO also showcases that he CAN use Nine Lives if he's slightly coherent, which is why it's his Noble Phantasm. Nasu doubles on this in interviews and even says that if Hercules were in a better state of mind, that he would've countered with his own Nine Lives. This would explain why the slab of metal has the "history" of Nine Lives embedded within it. Tl;Dr: the setting is a multiverse, and Berserker Herc has used nine lives with the slab multiple times, moreover, the world recognizes it as Berserker Herc's weapon of choice
>>577524275>>577524454>>577524482>>577524837Oh yeah probably worth mentioning too, multiple copies let you get coins faster which lets you unlock appends faster. This is a whole can of worms but basically every servant benefits from Append 2 and Append 5 can be extremely helpful and allow unique combos on some servants and is just very good on others. Fortunately these two are easy to get at NP1 (If you can accept not being able to 120 at NP1) but even still I'd say most "serious" farming comps will only expect Append 2 at level 10.
>>577520605both the song and the video are super mid
I don't get it. What makes Phantasmoon / Gamer Girl Arc so good gameplaywise? The memelist has her as one of the best servants in the game, and I don't understand why. Is it because of her 30% party charge and AOE NP? Her NP damage doesn't seem that impressive imo. And her skills outside of her 20% charge aren't that good either.I feel like someone like Kuku (raw DPS) or Aesc (same evil niche and way more party charge) would be way better gameplaywise
>>577522864Zelretch is way stronger in Tsukihime since he inherited Idea Blood. He just can't oppose Crimson Moon.But Zelretch is only an aging old man in Fate timelines.
>space eresh's final ascesnion is....the 2 previous ascension fusing>golden BB is...the other 2 BB fusingBravo nasu
>>577525419Her silky smooth feet.
>>577525153Anon, new players aren't going to have the fucking mats or lores for regular skills let alone append skills.I genuinely don't know why retards here always respond to new players by trying to braindump the year-9 endgame meta to them. They're going to be playing a wholly different game from you for years while they raise basic skills, farm gems and monuments and clear Part 1 story content with a friend's borrowed servant. Endgame resource sinks like Append skills aren't going to be relevant for ages and it would absolutely be a noob trap to waste materials on them before rounding out your roster with servants that can actually clear content for you.
>>577525593It's a good thing I wasn't meta dumping and was just explaining an integral feature of the game then. Knowing about appends/which appends are good is helpful at any point since you have evocation servants.
>>577524376>That's what you're supposed to take from that sceneThen don't introduce the training as a deadly one then have your mc survive for 10 years.Instead, that part makes it looks like the ordeal of FSN but 10 years.>Cu wasn't trying.It's called plot armor, given that Kirei's cs was against Servant and not humans.>Emiya is still extremely competent.>botched his timing for Rin making a contract with Saber>died like a bitch in his original timeline>got the ability to add Rule Breaker's effect onto every np, didn't use it against anyone>threatened Saber with Excalibur and not Clarent when it's a much easier np to trace>HF Shirou also didn't use Clarent against Saber Alter>could trace jewel sword for unlimited mana, didn't do it so he's at 10% power when he's about to kill Shirou>knew Herc had weakness in the form of an arrow dipped in centaur's blood, didn't trace it when he had read through Herc's life story>HercSo it's plot armor that Herc became a retarded jobber whose job is to hype others
>>577523751You will farm the worm for the next 8 months, until we get Grand Duels, also be prepared ahead of time and bond CE your intended Grand
>aoe ruler with np on turn 1 boss>moon cancer forced support 1>1* shittier support 2Why did nips like this garbage chapter again?
>>577525995What's the first duel we unlock? Is it Saber?
>>577525995Don't most people get anything they grail to bond 10?
>>577526043Probably had something to do with the fact that that was a gimmick fight so none of that actually mattered.
>>577526043they dont
what did you guys think of OC3? personally, i feel like it tried to do too much at once and i couldn't really get invested too much into it. protea alter was fun and very cute, though and i'm a bit pissed they manage to cram every member of the sakura 5 EXCEPT melt
>>577526298>every member of the sakura 5 EXCEPT meltRetardbros...
>>577525812>botched his timing for Rin making a contract with SaberI honestly have no idea what you're talking about here >died like a bitch in his original timelineNot plot armor lol. If your intention here it to paint Emiya as incompetent because of this, then you're incorrect, because Emiya gained all of his experience and competency as a counter guardian >got the ability to add Rule Breaker's effect onto every np, didn't use it against anyoneAre you talking about that Broken Phantasm retcon from a few years ago? That unironically doesn't count because it was added to the lore over a decade after the visual novel was written.>threatened Saber with Excalibur and not Clarent when it's a much easier np to trace>HF Shirou also didn't use Clarent against Saber AlterHe can only use weapons he's seen, and he's never seen Clarent Blood. Moreover, he's not aware of the conceptual, anti Arthur properties that such a weapon would have >could trace jewel sword for unlimited mana, didn't do it so he's at 10% power when he's about to kill ShirouIt's not that simple. If I remember correctly, only Rin could use it.>knew Herc had weakness in the form of an arrow dipped in centaur's blood, didn't trace it when he had read through Herc's life storyThat's not plot armor. That's just Shirou not using the technique you wanted him to use.>So it's plot armor that Herc became a retarded jobber whose job is to hype othersNo? There were clear story reasons for why Herc was insane, blind, and stripped of godhand before Shirou fought him
>>577526072Yes. It shows the order in that image.
>>577526418violet doesn't count
>>577526512Why
>>577526298I like it. It's like a boss rush.
>>577525593I’m not brand new I played this game like 6 or 7 years ago and randomly got the urge to pick it back up, just didn’t know if I should be saving my quartz for new characters or focusing on the ones I have already
>>577525995Do we seriously have to farm the fucking Grand Duels for months? That sounds tedious as fuck, especially because you can't just take 3 supports + your DPS of choice. And what if my Grand Choice isn't meta? Do I just have to the bite the bullet and spend like 5-10 turns farming it every time?
Gonna DP BB with my Extra bro, bros
>>577526746she's not in the game. simple as.
Thoughts on Takeuchi's Grand servants?
>>577526139Rider and Assassin see lack of usage outside of Koyan. Saber is the first so people aren't use to it yet.
>>577526298Another certified banger. Bravo, Nasu did it again!
>>577527025Takeuchi has Grand Tez and Grand Mash, bro
Reminder that for your chosen Grand Servant, they MUST be grailed to level 100. Not 80, not 90. 100. That's a minimum of 5 grails per Grand (7 for SRs). Your chosen Grand will get a special CE slot that allows they to equip their bond CE in addition to normal CEs for free. So it's strongly recommended that you Bond 10 your Grand so they can use their Bond CE.You MUST actually Grand a servant to access the farming content for that Grand Raid. Grand Raids have better gem/material/QP output that lotteries. They're the best farming content the game will ever get and they're time-sensitive. After their launch period ends, they will cost storm pods to farm, meaning they drop to 3 runs a day from being infinite.You will want to have your Grand candidate prepared for the release so that you can blow apples and get as much out of farming it as possible. You can always change your Grand later down the line if a new servant comes out or something, it's not worth skipping the release period to save grails for a later servant or something.Grand Duels will release monthly throughout the next year starting in May. The order is>Saber>Berserker>Lancer>Extra 1&2>Rider>Assassin>Archer>CasterIn jp, Extra was released alongside the anniversary and overlapped with Summer, so there's a possibility that EN's schedule, with our earlier anni, may be different. Plan ahead so that you have the grails/xp to raise your Grand candidate when their duel releases.
>Hakuno just plowed through 3 What-If wonder by himselfHow good are the Hakunos canonically? I felt like they are really fucking strong
>>577525995Already have lv100 Bond 12 Jason, bro
>>577527171They are literally (You)
>>577527126>Takeuchi has Grand Tez and Grand Mash, broOh, you're right.
>>577517517Shirou, the dude who has over 40 bad endings from every single retarded decision he makes, some coming from the fact that he can't get along with his servants because he doesn't have the "he gets along with everyone because his bland and lack of personality is so likeable" powerpower?
>>577527134Instead of their bond CE you can't you use one that gives 50 charge?
Who tf is Pieceman?
>>577526475>I honestly have no idea what you're talking about hereHe planned to have Rin make a contract with Saber, but only after Shirou had been killed.Instead, Rin made the contract first and allowed Saber to fight back.>He can only use weapons he's seen, and he's never seen Clarent Blood. Moreover, he's not aware of the conceptual, anti Arthur properties that such a weapon would haveWhat? How is this even possible when he got like tons of other shit in UBW and he was Saber's master in his original timeline?>If I remember correctly, only Rin could use it.So he only needs to turn on the auto function and whatnot just like with other np.Kinda like how Rule Breaker is supposed to be Medea's crystalized divinity but it's treated like some cheap np anyway.>That's not plot armor. That's just Shirou not using the technique you wanted him to use.That part is related to his competency.>There were clear story reasons for why Herc was insane, blind, and stripped of godhand before Shirou fought himThat part is still Fate route where Redman fought Herc.
>>577527376>both have logres and athuriahow are they so fucking boring, bros?
>>577527134Will farming be impossible if I grand low tier servants?
>>577526298It felt like they tried to cram too much stuff into it, lack of interesting fights in the first 2 parts followed by a couple of butt blasting fights on part 3.I liked the EXTRA/CCC fanservice but sometimes it went a tad too far with Hakuno and Fujimaru masturbating each other due to both of them being seasoned masters, they just did it a tad too frequently.Overall kind of messy but i didn't dislike it at all i think it was better than OC1 by a long shot but doesn't quite reach the heights of the best LBs.
>>5775275672030 man
>>577527603It's honestly kind of soulful that Takeuchi grailed Saber Artoria, but not Saber Logress.
OHAYO ARCHETYPE-CHAN
>>577527567The guy in the 2030 CE that summoned Buddha
>>577527171I mean it all depends because it's multiple timelines/universe mumbo jumbo. But theoretically, they have access to the Moon Cell which is a crazy computer made by actual aliens, so pretty fucking strong.Also they're just very competent masters, obviously.
>>577527612https://youtu.be/e4hFD_izMI4?si=DHp7pmZUtKznS3Y-
>>577526298It's very messy, and it for some reason beind the second half of a summer event make it feel very rushed because they also have to cram the Summer servants into it. I can see why it was controversial on release
Wtf is an archetype?
>>577527025Except for that Kagetora trace, this is the most soulless grand list possible. Maybe swap Ciel with Salomon
>>577527767Liz swimmsuit when Nasu????!!!
So BB dubai is stronger than Arcueid right
>>577527961Hell no.
>>577527961arc doesn't take anything seriously so she'll never fight with her full strength and if she did she would be number wan
I have not bond 10 ANYONE, I did not plan for Grand duel at allis it time for me to LOCK IN?
>>577527923Gensai has the best damage modifiers against Grand Assassin. NP5 can do it without Black Grail.
>>577527496>the dude who has over 40 bad endingsYou mean Shirou, the dude who kills Gilgamesh the King of Heroes and overcomes 20+ Bad Ends with ease.
Zelretch Core Powers & Abilities: The Second Magic (Kaleidoscope): Allows absolute observation, manipulation, and travel across infinite parallel worlds. He can pull boundless energy, mass, or alternate states from other dimensions into the current reality.Infinite Mana Generation: Through his creation, the Jeweled Sword Zelretch, he can siphon an endless supply of magical energy directly from alternate timelines, bypassing any conventional limits of human or earthly mana.Is nasu a vsbattlewiki fag
>>577527875>assassin node with a buster servantI mean
>>577528047But enough about Gil
>>577528049Better get to Worm wrangling bro.
>Please set Geromino as a Starting Member>Please set Mash (Ortinax) as a starting member>preselected some NPC support for youAHHHHHHHHHHH JUST LET ME USE MY OWN UNITS HOLY FUCK
>>577528136lmao, fair enough
>>577528084Shirou got a fluke win against not serious Gil. Guda fucks full power Gilgamesh in the ass daily in Chaldea bedroom. They are not the same.
>>577528141Only just return to the game, wtf is Worm wrangling?
>>577528084Anyone can kill Gilgameme, I did it the other day
>>577528371guda looks photoshopped here
>>577528084>You mean Shirou, the dude who kills Gilgamesh the King of HeroesNever happened. Shirou, with the mana of Rin and Archer saving his ass twice, best a Gilgamesh who was fucking around in a fight (until it was too late for him to get serious), but he still didn't have enough power to land the killing blow. >overcomes 20+ Bad Ends with ease.If he died, then he didn't overcome them. The 6 endings you see in Fate Stay Night are the only timelines where Shirou won. There are 40 bad end timelines where Shirou died or lost. That means that Shirou has 0.015% success rate. That's the literal OPPOSITE of plot armor.
>>577528371Fucking bitch Nasu stop trying to make me want to kiss giant girls
>>577528047>if she did she would be number wanif you wanna see some action
>>577528705>if you wanna see some actionGOTTA BE THE CENTER OF ATTRACTION they don't make shonen like they used too, bros
reminder that kiara is thhe bonney blue of fateWould you still do her
I am seriously considering getting into Tsukihime because whatever is going on between Ciel and Arc seem interesting
>>577528882Truth: it's not
>>577528496>those timelines where Shirou dies is when he has no plot armor>those timelines where Shirou wins is when he got plot armorIt is that simple anon.Even Nasu admits in some interview that it was divine intervention that Gil forgot to put on his armor in UBW.
>>577528882you're in for a rough surprise
You know, since it's Palter, I am ok.
>Don't get Ciel>BB Summer is NP 1, BB Dubai is a longshot with what SQ I'll scrounge in the next couple weeks>Completely screwed out of worm farmingNice free quest design
>>577523283I'm skipping everyone because Ciel took me to pity....
what is this worm farming you speak of?
>>577528938>it was divine intervention that Gil forgot to put on his armor in UBW.It's 100% in character for Gil to not use his armor against some random teenager in a fight, Nasu doesn't know shit about Fate
Yes
>>577529121You cultivate a new species inside sakuras p*ssy
>Please set Eric Bloodaxe as your party memberKINO
>>577527171They were an absolute nobody in the Moon Cell HGW, but they still managed to win regardless. That same HGW was played mostly straight with minimal bullshit/complications, too (CCC happening aside). This was exactly what the antagonist, Twice, wanted to happen because a nobody like Hakuno winning proved his ideology of the weak becoming strong when confronted with war. In reality, despite Hakuno being an absolute garbage Wizard, they are an incredibly competent Master with extreme levels of compatibility with their Servants.Enter Extella. The backstory is a little different because Nasu is fucking hack, but things mostly play out the same. As the victor, Hakuno now has the Regalia which basically amounts to Moon Cell admin privileges. Yes, it's about as broken as you'd expect it to be.
>>577529039You can borrow a Ciel and clear the worm quest just as easily. Assuming you AT LEAST have a Vitch.
>>577529226>Foreshadowing
I really like Protea Alter not and I np5'd her on this banner. Still refuse to ever call her Palter.
>>577529287oh, right, she's filled with worms. i thought you guys were talking about an upcoming farming node or something. i'm fucking out of it today
>>577529323She's bond 15, which I suppose means Blavatsky remains the more efficient quest.
Wait, where are the OC3 free quest farming nodes?
>>577528938>forgotHe didn't forget. He was just too cocky. That's Gil's fatal flaw.He jobs in Fate because he toyed with Saber for half the route. And then when he finally fought her, he overcommitted with EA because he thought he was unbeatable with it.He jobs in UBW because he can't fathom losing to a mentally ill high school student, so he refuses to go all out until it's too late.He jobs in HF because he refused to take Sakura seriously as a genuine threat, which led to the shadow ambushing him.He jobs in Strange Fake because he threw away the key to Gate of Babylon to try and make himself look badass to his master. Gilgamesh is just a chronic jobber due to his ego. Never forget that he has an ability that grants him nigh omniscience (Sha naqba īmuru), yet he refuses to use it because it makes life feel too easy for him. And when he DOES use it, he IGNORES it when it shows him losing because his mind can't fathom the idea that he could lose.
>>577527612No.One: Grand Duels farming quests are designed in such a way that the Grand Score buffs you've unlocked matter way more than the actual skills of your Grand (in most cases)Two: The farming quests are easy enough that largely you can just have Automata slam cards and clear. Min-turning requires some luck and optimization but 3ting can be done with just about anyoneThree: you can borrow one of your friend grands, so even if your own grand is a meme servant like Jekyll, your friend's grand can just solo it for you.The hp pools look inflated but that's just because the buffs from Grand Score are so insane. 1m is the new 100k.
>>577529307>Enter Extella. The backstory is a little different because Nasu is fucking hack, but things mostly play out the sameHow the fuck did we go from "Hakuno gets detected as an error in the system due to being a literal NPC, and thus erased by the mooncell but getting a few seconds to save Rin/Rani thanks to their Servant" to "Hakuno becomes God"
>>577528882Those two are the least interesting things about Tsukihime
>>577529538Uhhhh don't quote me on this and I'm not going to look for you because I'm lazy, but I believe there's some Hakuno farming comps for the worms with 2x BB Dubai. Hakuno obviously needs to be pretty juiced but she gets a rape up with the next event so NP5 should be easy enough then.
Sorry bro you pissed me off already
>>577529356Will you NP5 her summer alt too?
Why does protea have larger breasts than alter? Is this a plot hole?
>>577528049Grand Duels are also the best bond farming in the game so your chosen grand will be bond 10 at least by the time the release event ends. Don't worry about it.The most important thing is to not forget that they need to be grailed to 100. Don't get caught with no grails, or get forced to waste time farming xp during the grand duel because you forgot.
>>577528882read the original it's pretty good
>>577529356??? Wrong thread?
>>577529839Indra, Olga, Noah, Summer Kriem, and Gensai all come out around the same time as their respective Grand Duels so they are likely not bond 10 at the time
>>577528119Zeltretch has to be ridiculous because his main narrative purpose is to be the reason that a godlike being couldn't end the world.The Root is like the source code to the universe's operating system and everyone who reaches it gets to come away with a cheat code exclusive to them. Supreme beings like the Crimson Moon are like game engines running on the universe's OS. Normally it would be impossible for a player playing the game to overcome console command "kill," but Zeltretch has alt-F4.
>>577529831because she is an actually good character
>>577529831purity is stored in the breasts
>All of Atalante Alter's skills are fucking single turn.Is there a bigger sign of a character being an utterly forgotten piece of shit?
>>577529824We need kill the mushroom
>>577530493[Stun self for x turns] is another huge one.
>>577529039You were warned to roll for Ciel, did you believe it was just misinformation against 2 years of solved gameplay?
>>577527134Another important thing to know:Prior to each grand Duel, a series of rateups will run featuring EVERY gold servant in that class ever released, including Storylocked and Limited.Each SSR will be on a separate rateup running in parallel, and each rateup will also have 1 SR.If you don't yet have the servant you'd want to Grand for a given class or want more NP levels for them, that will be your chance. Over the course of the year, this means literally every servant ever released will be on rateup at one point or another for their corresponding Grand Duel.
>>577530593Oh yeah that's a really bad one. Also honorable mention to % Success skills.
>>577530838>MISS>MISS>3000
>>577530765I think this whole third part might have the best overall presentation in the entire game. ORT comes close but I don't know, it all just felt so unique and cool, including the Moon Cancer fight's visuals.
Why is this BB with us so nice to the Sakura Five? She used to be an absolute asshole towards them.
>>577530493It's better to be forgotten than outright abandoned like some of the year 1 servants are. I would HATE to be a fan of Medea, Medea Lily, Stheno, George, Ko Gil etc.
>this is modern day sherlock holmes and Moriarty Really makes you think
>>577531098>MoriartyAre you stupid???
>>577530992She got domesticated, but only a little.
Would you read a Nasu VN set in the Servantverse?
>>577531098Jim Henson's Giant Sherlock Babies
>>577530593>2 turn stun every time she NPs>dogshit 1 turn self buffs >anemic damage on her NPFran needs a total overhaul. Her kit is literally worthless in 2026. Same with Tamamo Cat. You'd be better off just using fucking Spartacus and he's free and a fucking 1 star
>Human persist on Earth>The Earth want to kill itself>Human moved to the Moon>The Moon also want to fucking kill itselfJesus, we really are cancer
>>577530992>be single and childless>"moms are evil and daughters are all awful neurotic little monsters">become a mother>"mom's are just misunderstood and their daughters are just struggling and striving and finding love in their own unique ways"Becoming a parent always takes the edge off of any edgy writer.
>>577531098What does Kingprotea Alter smell like?
>>577530992She hates them less now that they are more functional and sane. KP, Lip and Melt are all working for the betterment of humanity now rather than being terrifying psychos she sees as bad character traits she shaved off.
>>577531365
Not again...
>I actually have to beat herHuh?
>>577531601Use your spells, sis. They are going to replenish soon anyways
>>577531234No.The whole point of the servantverse is its tongue-in-cheek ill defined rules and nonsense handwaved by jargon.Nasu's writing is always most interesting when it's establishing a setting with clear, empirical rules, relationships and boundaries and they set to work testing the limits of those boundaries and finding ways to break them that still make sense.The best TM writer to do something set in the servantverse is unironically Sakurai.
>>577531681>No bars brokenDO NOT use the spells.
>>577531681I did a total of 0 damage because I didn't know she had permanent invencibility so didn't bring anything to pierce that
>>577531601>1 SQbwo... also who the fuck decided to add another kiara boss fight? i know it's all based on EXTRA but fuck off nasu with your slut waifu
>>577529226How did Palter go from this utterly hate filled, sneering demon to a moeblob like this? Are all Alters meant to just become tsunderes with hearts of gold hidden behind black clothes?
>>577531601be sure to bring a ignore invul CE for your main attacker, otherwise you are fucked
>>577531601Is this the first big Kiara fight where she doesn't have an NP?You just have to break her first bar twice and survive her last turn.
Nasu just made a kaiju event solely for his giantess fetish, bringing Kiara back for his EXTRA story is small fries
>>577531540*poops on seiba*
https://x.com/i/status/2088254955153133759Times have changed
MOON CANCER FIGHT IS CANCERI DON'T HAVE ANY HARD HITTING RULER
>>577531918Mental illness
When they were talking about FSN, I didn't clap. When they were talking about Tsukihime, I didn't clap. When they were making different references here and there, I didn't clap. .........But this? ...Yeah, I clapped.
>>577531348https://files.catbox.moe/t5a8rj.mp3
>>577531996Your Ciel or Space Eresh?
>>577531996Ciel absolutely dumpsters that fight lmao
>>577531830>How did Palter go from this utterly hate filled, sneering demon to a moeblob like this? You unironically have media illiteracy. Kingprotea Alter wasn't full of hate and she wasn't even sadistic. Reread LB7. She was just being bratty and tsundere. She ALWAYS intended to help Gudao save the day. And she literally died for him towards the end of the story because she didn't want to see him suffer. And as she lay dying, she and Beni went out of their way to hide their deaths from Gudao and Mash so that they wouldn't feel bad.
>>577527171Hakuno beat Melt, Lip, Kiara and BB at their peak strength all with a single Servant.
>>577532172so could i if i was a protagonist
>>577531830Alters are the antithesis of the original servant. I think LB7 gives the best example: Ereshkigal wishes to cover the underworld with flowers and cultivate a beautiful garden for human souls to rest. She becomes an Alter by forsaking that dream, sacrificing the beauty of her underworld for the sake of making a battleground suited to combatting Ort.It just so happens that in most cases giving up the thing that matters most to a servant tends to make them pretty edgy.
>>577532063kek
>>577515905How do I get a 100m tall GF who looks at me like this?
>>577532117FATCOW
>>577532404church
>>577532172Let me be the author. I will make it different.
Protea Alter became way too popular
>>577531835or just pick the npc BB and before she dies, use her 2nd skill to remove Kiara's buffs
>>577532119I liked the part where Protea Alter was about to mess with Guda, and Beni was not sure if she could pull the hit on ORT. Then Guda actually showed up half dead and both of them immediately stopped screwing around.
Apparently Palter in japanese is written Puta.
>>577532462I don't think my church has ceilings that tall...
>>577531601just buff purge her after she applies invulnbeebs skill2 can do it
>>577532172yeah, that servant was either the king of heroes or a beast candidate
>>577532436YES
Oh brothers...
>>577532701You don't have your own Bart? Why are you taking support Bart?
>>577531797I think the joke was mostly just to show how far FGO powercreep has come.Recall in the first Big Kiara fight we have an event where we basically by debuffs to cripple her and ultimately the boss battle we fight is the one where she's been severely nerfed. When Seraph came out that fight was still tough as balls.The kiara we fight in this story is essentially the fully powered boss kiara from seraph without any of the debuffs from the event. And she's not only doable, she's actually kinda easy. If you have someone with buff removal you can just delete her invul and pierce invul. If you have castoria you can tank her invul-piercing party wipe with it. You can blast off breakbar per turn with star bombs, megacrit and buster star absorb or ST NPs that fully refund. And of course you can still stall her to death with an immortal team.
>>577522876I love Babu!
>>577532119No, I mean her expressions. Her face always was sneering and cruel looking. So she actually did *look* believable while she was saying all that mean stuff. Her expressions are a lot softer and she's not putting nearly as much effort into being convincing now.
>>577532701Sometimes you don't need words to know the first three servants are a sacrifice
>>577532772As if bringing my own Bart is better...
>>577532538For reference.プタ = Puta
>>577532281Altered aren't "antithesis"LB7 explains it directly, alters are servant who betrayed whatever value they held the strongest in their normal form They actively chose to destroy whatever they held most important Saber alter became a tyrant Archer alter killed taiga and became nothing but a professional killerCu became a king (he hates the idea of being king, he sees it as a merciless thing)Nitocris crushed her own heart so it could no longer be judged on Anubis scale, she can no longer reach the after lifeBeni enma gave up being a child's hero for children, by growing upKingprotea gave up her love for humans Eresh gave up wanting to make the underworld a beautiful placeJeanne alter true gave up her purity
>>577532880is it pronounced like spanish puta or like "computah [comptuer]" puta?
This is a great and fearsome dragon.
This guy exist in this story just to chill and do god-know-what with a fucking ship AI
>>577533029Thank you
>>577532948>Jeanne alter true gave up her puritySo you can only sex Jannu once before she alters?
>>577532979Like computah. Spanish is more like Poota, right? Think of the word buta which is pig in japanese, but replace the b with a p.
>La Puta
>>577533029Can she fix my truck?
>>577532948>Kingprotea gave up her love for humans I always assume it was her dream of being human sized
>>577533080He had sex with that ship. I don't know how but that's just because I'm not a pirate.
>>577533029How terrifying
I love Summer Xu Fu a bit too much, but I can't be a 3rd wheel
Behold my final roll of the banner
>>577533080>>577533312I wish I was that ship...
I am dreading the day Mashu become a yandere...
>>577533496grand gae...
>>577533464Xu Fu IS a third wheel herself already
>>577533287Protea Alter gives up her Infantile Regression. She's able to grow beyond the limit where it kicks in without outside intervention, unlike regular Protea. In both of her story appearances, Palter grows beyond her size limit without Regression kicking in.That's why their personalities are different. Protea's mind is stuck in an infantilized state, Palter's mental age matches her physically. She's not being overtly edgy, she's just being a teenager.
>>577533464Can't you just be happy to have a fembro who loves Consort Yu as much as you do?
>>577533496That's a lot of homo paladins
>>577531996Use the NPC Speresh and just gigabuff her the entire time.
>>577533687I thought infantile regression was more a failsafe built into her by BB, not something that could be discarded any more than Lip's various ridiculous flaws
>>577533029How does Melu cope?
>>577533987she copes by getting a huge load delivered directly by me, her husband
>Throw a bunch of multi's onto Ciel, no drop.>Do a few multi's on the funny vamp and she shows upAnd like that, I reject the church and embrace twilightism.
what happened to this general
>>577534141Liz deficiency.
>>577534084me
Be sure to eat your daily babbertrot....
meluSINNERhttps://youtu.be/-migxRgudVo?si=PmGcd9PPzHJBReuR
>>577533987Melu is better looking desu
>>577533937It wasn't discarded by choice. She was forced to become an Alter by Camazotz. Recall she was the only one of the Underworld Altars stuck with a mind control mask.
>Karna get a whole new set of wing and lance with his skinHero of the deprived my ass, this dude rich as fuck
>>577532679I rape this cow
>>577534263*empties an entire magazine into it on sight* AHHHHHHHHHH FUCK WHAT IS THAT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH JESUS CHRIST
>>577534346
>>577531996You're supposed to use the support Spesh, she's megabuffed for this fight.
>Kingprotea get an Alter and said Alter got a swimsuit before Liz got oneMuch to think about
>>577534096I had the opposite experience….
>>577534613
Today, tomorrow, forever
>>577534572There's a hundred fucking Lizzes in this game man.
>>577534572Bro your Carmilla Rider???
>>577533658I wonder if she would accept my pity sex offer
>>577534935>cant even build liz themed support list>have to include bob and lilith
>>577527914The soul of a planet creates a physical body based on the dominant lifeform on its surface planet uses that body as a sort of sensory organ to observe and experience the life on its surface. That's an Archetype.If a planet's consciousness decides to abandon it's celestial form, it will use the Archetype as a vessel. An Archetype possessing the soul of a planet and all of its limitless power at once is called an Ultimate One, or a Type. For example Ort in LB7 was technically called Type: ORT and was the Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud.
>>577532035I don't give a shit about references to other games. It's lazy.
DISGUSTING fight. Took me an hour of reattempts to finally beat it
>>577535279Then Type Moon games are not for you
>>577535279We can tell you are mentally lazy, yes.
>>577533029You like reptiles, don't you, /alter/?
Few spaces opens.
OD3 top 3 GOATs and Top 3 Bums >GOATs3. Bart (considerable lore glowup from just being the hair pervert. Also nice to see weak servants acknowledging their own weakness and running away)2. Edison Alter (Swallows his pride to ask Tesla for help. If that's not character development I don't know what is. Too bad they'll go back to the annoying ac dc faggots after this) 1. Hakuno >Bums3. Archetype Earth and Koyan (normally final boss tier enemies that get beat in one chapter)2. Tenochtitlan (betrays Chaldea immediately then comes back at the very end just to turn on the faucet) 1. Kazuradrop (built up to be a secret threat just to be one shot by BB Dubai and was BTFOed so badly that they had to write a whole ass event for her after the fact) >Secret GOATRoland (was never actually defeated by Chaldea after his fight in part 1)
The forced hakuno is the worst thing of the ocBe is genuinely useless and is always eating a servant FRONT slot
>>577535310DAMN, the new prime species looks like THAT?!
>>577535569>EXTRA wank
>>577534280Nobody believes this.
>>577535552Gross
>>577535680No, the new prime species is actually a 0.4 mm crystal waiting to be launched into space
I do like the contrast between Space Ishtar and Space Eresh being Quasar vs Collapsar
>rolling for snakes when you can roll for dragons
>>577535569Sent with Martha in all
>>577535921That's a fruit.
>The new prime species is a man made kidney stoneWhat did Nasu mean by this?
>>577535921Damn Zeus beefed with THIS?
>the new prime species
>>577536107Should have used the martian image. Then it would almost make sense for once
>>577536102Shit diet nearly killed him two years ago, so he had an existentialist crisis and wrote OC3
>>577536074me on the right
>>577536107
Uh oh melty
>>577535950>Martha Stellar taste.
>>577535921
>>577536382Thanks bro
>>577536074me in the middle
>>577536074Me on the left
>>577535552
>>577535552Only when they have massive tits.
I looped.
>>577535702Melu still much more popular, bro
I don't usually do this, but what is she going to do after 3rd turn? I know she is going to pull some shit but what?
>>577535569sent Aoko in all.
>>577536703How are you playing OC3 if you are so new
>>577536612Just because a lot of people do it doesn’t mean it’s right.
>>577536571Like these?
>>577536824I keep myself clueless so the experience is fresh, but nevermind, I just found out what she do and I do not like it
>>577536703Shove you in her snatch.
>>577536929Have you played through Seraph? or CCC event, whatever is the right name.
>>577517702You meant Biscione right?
>>577536584how
>>577536925Yes, those are very nice.
>>577537136>No jacketless dress for the first ascensionRUINED RUINED RUINED RUINED 0/10
>Break gauge recoveryFUCKING FUCKING FUCKING DIE
>>577537303>Fucking die.Yeah anon, that's what the game wants from you
Sessyoin Kiara is a beautiful defenseless maiden
The only good servant in jp summer is that npc with torpedo tits
>>577537279Jackets over swimsuits have been the norm in FGO for years now and I fucking hate it.
>>577537279Believe
So when are we getting the OC3 free quests?
>>577537554what is her appeal
What even is the lore behind summer illya? I dont recall her splitting into many Illyas in the event
>>577537136Would have been a solid 9/10 without the retarded jacket and overall, as it is is a 6/10. Lilith, Beni and Puta did it better desu.
Damn Robin going placesI just remember he was part of the gang too in SERAPH
>>577537479she really is
>>577537632are you blind, deaf, or stupid?
>>577537632Huge tits, are you stupid?
>>577537630When OC3 and the summer event become main interludes around February/march next year in prep for OC4.It's also when you can yoink the other Hakuno
>>577537630You did beat OC3, didnt you?
>>577537632Shortstack, goofy, cute and in love with (you)
>>577529638He hacked the Moon
>>577537142NP5 and cd reduction appends and so on Evade works better there anyway.
>>577537632Cute workplace junior
>>577537632Dragon taming is an admirable pursuit
>>577537142Summer Kiara has partywide evade.
>>577537632The sag to end all sags
>>577537791I am>>577537798every other servant has huge tits>>577537828basically nero but brunette?
Playing this OC3 hit hard because our current humanity realistically could be heading down this path, actually what we are doing now is worse
>shortstacks>Nero and Bisc>both from the Roman/Italian areammmmm
>you should like the deformed big titty midget or you are le stupid!Why are redditors like this? Petite gals look better FLAT
>>577537678Along time ago there was a cunny unlike anyone else, this cunny was perfectly created by the gods to please as many oji-sans as possible, with ass cheeks like an athlete and a chest as flat as a box the perfect loli was born, sometime around 67 Ad a wish was made on the holy grail to create the ultimate cumdump loli and thus Kurt was born, to this day there hasn’t been a more rape friendly body than the Ilya twins, may everyone be blessed by their childlike bodies, cunny bless you. T. Loremaster pedo San.
>>577538145STANDINGPAIZURI
>>577537960So you’re choosing to be daft, got it.
For me? It's flatties.
>>577538145>you should like the deformed big titty midget or you are le stupid!This but without the sarcastic faggot accent
Nasu has a weird height complex. Also he seems to dislike boobs. And he seems to be into vore and diapers. And did you know he was blown away by Man of Steel? Frankly it seems Nasu has pretty garbage taste in general.
>>577538145Titcows are not redditcore retardbro
>>577537960>basically nero but brunette?Biscione is much goofier and not as boastful as Nero,>>577538125Meds know their stuff>>577538145Homosexual take, I bet you grailed Merdusine
>We are fighting KiaraOh lord we are going to grab Andersen and have him deal with her aren't we? I don't even have to guess this one, why else would he hang around despite not being a Moon Cancer?
>>577538332Female flatties are better tho
>>577538145Nobody is saying you have to like her but don’t sit here twiddling your thumbs pretending you can’t fathom the appeal
I NEED SUPER "tall" WOMEN RIGHT NOW!
>>577538452He was useless and he will stay useless.
>>577538709*glomps u*
>>577538709Just go play jp summer, bro
>>577538452He infodumps the history of OC3's world
>>577538709Here you go bro enjoy your five foot eight tall queen!
>still no adult Hans costumeWhy?
>>577538789>Perfect proportions>No visible disabilities>No retarded bandage gimmickShe would be perfect if she wasn't a giant desu
>>577538789Well I guess I'm fucking dead then
>The only Sakurai Five not in the game is the one with adult bodyWhat do they mean by this?
Edison? Swallowed his prime to summon THE GOAT.(You)? Saved by someone summoned by THE GOAT.You're welcome.
I didn't think I would come out of this story being such a big protea alter fan. Sasuga nasu
>>577538991Literally no one cares about Violet. She's just Medusa.
Palter is awakening things in me
>>577537136>we finally get some italian myth and THIS is what it issono triste
>>577538924the only guy who understood :/>>577538813>>577538789speedreaders...
>>577539207La PUTA bebe
LOL LMAO EVEN 0/10 chapter since I don't even remember it
>>577539073One of the fundamental truths of FGO is that they're just going to keep re-releasing Sakura in new forms until the end of time and you're going to roll for her every time.
>>577539052>wasted in LB5I'm still mad.
>>577539223wdym look at that 3rd ascension and tell me you did not win
>>577539382she looks like a generic OL. it's super lame
>>577539330>every time.Sorry BUT that retard Lip is a big SKIP for me, I do like all the other Sakurafaces though.
>>577535606>Roland (was never actually defeated by Chaldea after his fight in part 1)List of things that have killed Roland so far:>Himself at Roncevaux>Himself at Traum to perform a conceptual breaking miracle>A literal cheat ServantThe STRONGEST knight.
>>577539506OL is cute though
>>577539506i don't know an OL that has those saggers
>>577539207At least she didn't go full baby with a diaper. The logistics of that at her size are mortifying
>>577539223Crazy how italian history just goes>Roman Empire>[DATA LOST]>WW1>WW2>The Tijuana of Europe
>>577535606>Can't even appreciate Kazura for trying to be the mastermind manipulator all chapter, only for characters to keep seeing through her or crushing her, but she refuses to die.She had a strong will to live no matter how petty she was. She just wanted to be the final boss.
>>577539506You're not fooling me into believe that Italian office ladies generally look like that. No way. I'm not falling for your pasta perfidy.
>>577539645Seriously, though. Assassin Ezio when?
>>577539207I wish Palter had bigger tits.
>>577539223Your Dante?
That epilogue was funny I'll give it up.
>>577539506Her character image is "Girl who just finished college and is just now joining the workforce"Not an OL yetShe's not meant to be a very big deal dragon either, she's basically a loser dragon.
>>577539807they're gonna genderbend Ezio into a huge smug sexy noble lady and you're gonna like it.
>>577539807>Big Vinci never achieved big popularity>is killed off and replaced by a pedobait version of herself>pedos immediately latch on and never let goBig sad.
>>577540003Every dragon is a loser dragon
>>577516592She totally does.
Zhang Jiya have to be the potential man of FGO
>>577539807I will never forgive this company from taking her away from me. Brought a tear to my eye
>>577540003What does OL stand for?
That wasn't that hard.
How am I supposed to prevent her from stunning my entire party 10 turns in a row?
Random take, we should've gotten a KPA or KP version where she's a shortie with an extremely confused personality shift about "why the fuck am I short" being a key focus of the version
>>577540037Ezio will be a loli so she can be LoliVinchi friend
>>577537632Zako dragon who wants to find another career in life so she isn't stuck being a low level boss fightSo she became a career womanShe has an entire event where she starts from scratch trying to find herself, discovering who she is and who she wants to be. Ultimately she realizes she can be anything and she has unlimited potential, which is some sort of message about something I'm sure. She's a relatable down to earth type heroine rather than a bigshot hero, she's just a nameless dragon who wants to settle down in a nice normal job in Chaldea where she gets job security and safety.She's best friends with Liz so you already know she's legitRead Maid Dragon the manga
>>577540241office lady
>>577540203man I love da vinci. I also like lolivinci but I hate how dumb they made her.
>Record of 2400Wait isn't that the 8 C.Star CE?
>>577540161No that's Gilgamesh. It has always been Gilgamesh and it will always be Gilgamesh.
>remove buffs
>>577540251Just get lucky anon
>>577540473Kama...
>>577540473Just bring your Santa Nightingale bro
>>577540363Wow I feel dumb, thanks anon you’re a treat.
Finally
>>577540473>break bar>np charges to full>remove buffs>dieAnd here I am still getting caught off guard by this like the retard I am.
>>577540591Doesn't Arc just straight up go "Nuh, uh" on that since she strips buffs with like 500% guarantee, whereas Nightingale only gives 100% protection?
>>577540739I keep asking this but does it even matter? You bring two full lineups.
>>577540043Vinci's problem is that she was visually too clearly associated with the idea of leonardo davinci, but also not close enough. Like a lot of year 1 servants, she hit that uncanny valley of being extremely unsatisfying as a representation of history but not out there enough to be a standalone character.Loli vinci adds an extra layer of abstraction, which is why she suddenly became popular. Something that TM clearly realized with the transition to lostbelts is that servants either need to be strictly faithful to some image of history, or so completely out of left field that they sidestep the historical comparison entirely. Between those two extremes is an uncanny valley where the vision of a character is just lame and disappointing.The lostbelts themselves became a vehicle for that kind of design. Instead of trying to transform every servant into a cute girl or an anime badass, we get giant mammoth Ivan the Terrible, alien cowboy Kululcan, dapper man in a suit Salieri, cyborg butterfly QSH, gigachad Napoleon, etc.Vinci just represents the leading edge of that shift in design vision that was clearly informed by the successes and failures of Part 1.
>>577540849purdy
>remove buffs>remove debuffs>reduce own charm resistance by 50%
>>577540849I can't even lie I clapped.
when arc removed my buffs, she also removed my will to live, and i immediately ended my life
>>577540890I mean ya but it still feels bad that I continue to get bamboozled like this
>>577540251One of the story supports deletes that effect permanently.
YOU FUCKING NIGGER
>>577535569Sent, BB in ALL.
>>577540739My favourite is also "Clears own debuffs" on Break, meaning stun is pointless.
Oh, did you seriously just break my break bar, bro?*rapes you*
>>577541063You mean you are supposed to use the supports the game gives you? WTF
>>577540890Story nodes usually give fantastic bond so I want to use my back 3 slots to farm bond for Class Score requirements and not bring a second meta team as backup when my entire frontline is cockslapped with a forced wipe.
>>577540315Her event also had a nice animated CVhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CIxoTR15Ie0&pp
You know, I was really hoping one of the anniversary 3* Caster buffs was going to be for Babbage.
>>577541128Someone called her the Cell of the Sakura 5 and I find it funny how that apparently extends to her being a cockroach
>>577541019Joke's on her. I never had that in the first place.
>>577541192*dies*
>>577541235>trying to bond farm in a boss fightWell, you deserve everything that happens.
>Story nodes usually give fantastic bond so I want to use my back 3 slots to farm bond for Class Score requirements and not bring a second meta team as backup when my entire frontline is cockslapped with a forced wipe.
Outside of >homoI can't see any reason not to pick Hakuno since he was always with us.
>>577541372Jokes on you, by the power of these 3 command seals I bruteforce your gayass bossfight and maximize my bond gain in the process.Better luck next time, midboss.
>>577541480He's going to fuck all your Extra girls...
>>577541480Don't you understand anon, you're supposed to choose female Hakuno and then give her sexual punishment for her crimes against humanity
Holy shit calm down Hans
>>577541480But Hakunon is cute.
>>577541128YOU VIL PLAY FAMILY WITH HER
>>577541480I would rather not pick these losers at all, capisce?
>>577541480I will pick the male one just to have a cute girl on my friend points banner menu
>>577541480He wants you to take the girl version so that he can have and break and so that she can actually have fun for once because she got benched.
>>577541480Technically Hakunon is better since there are more female-only buffs than male-only, but really, let your heart speak up. Or dick. Whichever you listen to.
>>577541763It's a fetish thing for her
>>577541270It's fucked up that they still haven't added Zahhak in JP after two years.
>>577541979Because no one gives a fuck about him
>>577541813a break* whoops.
>>577536929Bruh it's Kiara. You should already know what she is going to do because you fought her in SERAPH
OC4 comes out in 7 month??? Bros this is the first time I've been fully caught up to the story...
>>577536074Me in the spotlight
>>577542172factual
I took one try at the final Hakuno fight and gave up for now. Not being able to rely on anti-enforcement is actually giving me problems.
>>577542434Do girls really do this
>>577542465Anon your ruler???
Whenever a boss defeats me, I like to think Command Spells are MY break bar, and the effects (full party np charge, no more debuffs, skill cooldowns reduced) are my break bar effects. It keeps me immersed and I like to roleplay my Guda going something like:>You think you've won? I have prevented the incineration of mankind and the prunning of my timeline! I have faced every pantheon, every eldritch horror, powers that make my existence akin to one of an ant and still came out on top! By my Command Spell...!>"W-What?! How could this mere human have so much power!"It feels even more great when the boss in question had been belittling me the entire story. If they're female, I like to fantasize me raping her after I win so I'm putting her in her place.
>doing kiara fight in ordeal III 16-3>use beast nero>kiara has resist damage agains her>use beast eresh>kiara is weakwth... how does this "beast" thing works?
>>577542465It's essentially a 3 waves with a party wipe on Hakuno's 2nd breakBring sure-hit for the 1st and 2nd waves and just eat the wipe and use CS
>>577542645Eat? I believe so
How bad is your roster that you can't make it to the nuke phase of the Hakuno fight with a trio of servants?
>>577542797Do you guys really just roll without reading anything about a servant's kit?!?!
>>577542836>and use CSYeah looks like it will have to be that, cause that second break caught me by surprise.
>>577542769Do gudafags really?
>>577542931I just like to collect them PNGs...please explain
>>577540270*first ascensionthen he will grow into his nearly 40 year old version
Space Eresh have to be the strongest being in this chapter by a wide margin, they had to use straight BS to "beat" her
>>577542797Each Beast has unique class advantage / disadvantage. Draco is strong against all base classes (1.5x same as berserker) but weak to all extra classes. Eresh is strong against Extras, except Avengers, which are her only weakness, and is neutral damage to base classes.
>>577542931yes
>>577541480I picked a girl because I feel bad for her being stuck in tower while watching us having fun adventure with bro. She deserves love and attention too. I plan to grail both of them to level 100 eventually
>>577542465Bring someone with evade, ideally a mystic code as backup. I basically had my Morgan blow them up. By the time they got her, Male Hakuno was alone and on his last legs. Also make sure to either break them simultaneously or have some plan, since Fem Hakuno gets Pierce Invul on top of Anti Enforcement, so you're fucked if she initiates the combo NP somehow. If you break them at the same time, male one initiates the NP and he doesn't get her buffs.
>>577542797Beasts aren't a real class, they don't have a set advantage/disadvantage. Each one is unique.
When you think about it, we killed them both
>>577543234>If you break them at the same time, male one initiates the NP and he doesn't get her buffs.That's actually a really useful tip, thanks. That second break party wipe was hard to deal with.
>>577542172Yeah, but you've got Olga Quest 3 before that which unlocks Foreigner Class Score. Then the OC4 set up event during Chaldeas Boys Day next year around feb.
>>577538754I KNEW ITHe just HAPPENED to know Kiara's weakness AND the exact tool needed to poke her in said weakness. So predictable
Mash is my next 120 so the further away OC4 is, the better...because I'm flat fucking broke on embers.
>>577543148where do you get this info? should I read all their story to figure it out or is it displayed somewhere?
>>577541480I picked Hakunon BECAUSE Hakuno had the whole chapter. Might as well see the other one. Gonna grab him once he drops in a few months.
>>577543658I will be waiting for your reply in like 30 minutes or so.
>>577542931yeah and I haven't even used most of the servants I've rolled
>>577543658lol no
>>577543480NTA but I'll mention if you're a shitter like me borrowing someone's Summer Melusine can be really fucking helpful. You will have to swap her to your backline first turn and obviously plan your party around that but she can dumpster them.
>>577543658Bro thinks he's smart...
>>577543658>He just HAPPENED to know Kiara's weaknessHmmmmmmmmmm I wonder why...Also he was wrong you fucktard
>>577541480You can pick both either way, but you have to wait a month or two for the second one.
>>577543879>>577543951>>577544089It's going to backfire isn't it?
How many Kiara are we pulling
>>577542769Isn't this a pasta? Or am I just losing it?
>>577544194None for me, thanks
>>577543132What about spooky ghost?
I love tall women so fucking much bros.
>>577544362Anon she's only 5'8 I tower over her.
I like how they always refer to Blackbeard as an undying piece of shit like Herc except they can't even give him a good Guts skill to back it up
>>577544362fake pic, women dont eat
>>577544362I prefer petite women.
>>577544434wow i didn't know Altera was so tall!
>>577543793You basically gotta figure it out by the arrows you get before a node. Draco has arrow up only? Means she's got an advantage over Casters. Merlina has arrow down? No real advantage. Eresh has no arrow? She's got no advantage or disadvantage. A zerker? Advantage in damage, disadvantage in defence.Other-wise most people just check the wiki.
>>577539223Che minchia ti aspettavi? 90% of our myths is just Greek stuff with a different name, even when we go back to the Etruscans
>>577544530Imaginary scramble was so good anons. I really really liked it.
We need more chubby servants.
>>577544481>except they can't even give him a good Guts skill to back it upEternal guts is pretty decent
>>577544652>Merlin no real advantagePerhaps I should've said she has a disadvantage. Which yeah, she does.
>>577544434NTA but I don't pay any attention to the official heights. I just use my headcanon numbers.
>>577544194Already np6
extremely tall woman erotic
>>577544686Yeah, I loved it.
>>577544686Now that we are confirmed to never get Foreigner OC, I have come to appreciate Imaginary Scramble a lot more
>>577544976She can't even hoop.
you promised me kiara rape upwhere is it
>>577543737>Mash is my next 120... why
Freakishly unnaturally tall female sex
>>577545285What an erotic giantess
Wake me up when it's December anons. I cannot handle living in poverty I'm losing my mind
>>577545189Roland is plapping her, give them some time
>>577545374who the fuck is roland
>>577543658Your posting style is extremely annoying, and worse yet, you've been wrong about literally everything you post about. What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>577545189tonight
>>577544857More Kiaras never hurt
>>577545459Roland mama
>>577544652do pretenders also have different advantages between them? any other class which does this?
>>577545374Roland, a figure known for his ability to handle women
Don't worry bros and leave me behind, i'll deal with the huge and insanely tall woman.
>>577542645Last time I visited Japan there was this extremely drink lesbian alone at a maid cafe that knew all the waitresses by name and kept grabbing them and trying to kiss them.
>>577545285>172 cm>5'8 rounded up>implying tall
>>577545365Hey same. If I don't get this real job I'll probably just accept that I failed at life from the start and go insane.
I been meaning to ask, have story bossfight gotten easier in your opinion? Or have our Servants and support become much stronger?
>>577545665I assume 3D lesbians pretty much have to take anything they can get
>>577545665Xu-Fu...
>>577545285This was probably the first giveaway that nasu was bullied by bigger, older sisters growing up (but only Japanese big).
>>577545225Because Mash is always doing her best for (You)
Remember the Tamamos? Yeah me neither, and to think they used to be comparable to Sakura Five
>>577545665Was she a gaijin?
>>577545654His canon wife died of grief after hearing he died, he'll be fine
>>577545225Because she's cuteBecause I like shield that turns into gun
>>577544668sure, but we still have angitia, veiovis and bona dea and more. even if we go back to etruscans their religion wasn't just "hey, fuck it, we'll just reflavor Greek shit." yeah, i know "japanese game" but come on. they barely tried
>managed to get both BB Dubai and Kingprotea from unplanned rolls after finishing rolling for CielI'm so fucking happy.KP has been in my Destinys for ages.
Mashu will only get better, you need to invest in her now
>>577545610You can click Class Details on the party screen to get majority of advantage/disadvantage list for all the classes apart from Beast. Hence the in game arrow method or wiki check is what most people do for them. Here's the list.
>>577537828>in love with (you)that just means she's on Trashu's cockblocking list...ironically enough, the only servants our glorious Shielder doesn't stop are the actual rapists like Tamamo or Lambda
>>577546112I'll invest in Extremely tall woman coin, Mash can watch while i battle Medusa.
>>577546236Mash couldn't handle her. She's simply too tall
>>577546236Considering Mash wears stilts into battle, I think she might stand a little taller than Midusa.
>You will help me develop that planet right?This sound strangely erotic