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>[Updated - New Info] [New Chapter] Ordeal Call III: Bellum Novae Humanitatis, Archetype Inception
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>[FAQ]
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Yuyu in a gym uniform...
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>>577515184
>Right now, humans can't go beyond Earth/Moon because moon cancer stops them
Is that not just because the two cases we've heard where this happens (Extraverse, Moon Dubaiverse) humanity stagnated and presumably wasn't worthy of going beyond the stars?
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>>577515490
A cringe girl and a prostitute
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>>577515375
Arc wanted humanity to go into space themselves based on OC3, she didn't seem to give a fuck.
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>>577515276
They really had to make Arc retarded/prim and proper to justify her losing, huh? If she was fully on your side she should've been able to solve the whole Moon Cancer threat by herself by just throwing it off the moon.

>>577515461
Skill issue, should've just eaten the planet and used it's nutrients to launch away.
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FGO's story would 100x better if they scrapped Mash as a character and then just had Gudao have Galahad / Shielder's power. That way Gudao could actually participate in the plot instead of just standing around dong literally nothing in every single story arc. Gudaofaga will cope and say that he's a charismatic leader with supernatural willpower, but he's actually just a massive fucking loser with plot armor the size of a planet, so he's never in any danger, people follow him for no reason, and every girl either loves him or adores him because he's a self insert protagonist.

If Gudao were a badass fighter, fighting side by side with his servants, and constantly showcasing his willpower through Lord Camelot (which scales definitely off your willpower), then their would at least be an in universe justification for why every Heroic Spirit trusts him and respects him.

Past 2 would also have been gigakino too. Galahad "abandons" Gudao, so he loses his powers, and he's civilian tier now. Have him go through a story arc or two with no powers, but have him still kicking ass, leading servants, making plans, brokering alliances etc. to showcase that it's Gudao that's special, not the powers.

Then have him manifest his own version of Galahad's powers, built around his own deeds and fame, so that he can fight on the Frontline again. Have his deeds be recorded in the Throne of Heroes because OTHER heroes have WITNESSED his valor and courage. Which would again feed into the loop that Gudao is ACTUALLY the greatest hero of humanity, the PRIME hero who's deeds were confirmed by the greatest heroes that humanity has to offer
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>>577515490
The worst part of Bob is her connection to Shillgan.
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>>577515631
>FGO's story would 100x better if they scrapped Mash as a character and then just had Gudao have Galahad / Shielder's power.
You are so wrong
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>>577515461
Servantverse is beyond. And Nasu has absolutely taken it from a joke to extremely relevant at this point.
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>muh plot armor
I've never read a single worthwhile post that complains about this.
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>>577515631
This but also Luvia is my helper character and we regularly wrestle.
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>>577515758
Servantverse lore is completely and utterly fucking retarded though so I'm not going to waste any brain power on how it factors into the bigger picture. Fuck Nasu if he expects me to.
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>>577515730
You're thinking with your cock, not your mind. My idea would elevate Gudao to an active participant in the plot, rather than a glorified camera for the audience. For fucksake, Gudao can't even say anything meaningful because he's supposed to be a one note self insert, so Da Vinci, Goredolf, and Mash have to do all of the talking in every story arc to advance the plot.
That's why Gudao was so "bland" in the Babylon anime because people, even his self inserters, finally realized that the dude doesn't actually do shit. He's just...there.
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>>577515806
plot armor is an actual superpower in Toriko
and then the bad guy literally eats the plot armor, it was crazy
anyway fate grand order
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White haired evil women with big boobs are our most important natural resource
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>>577515772
I volunteer as tribute
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>>577516010
women with big boobs are our most important natural resource
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>>577515806
It's literally true. Gudao isn't rewarded for clever planning, politicing, scheming, training, or organizing and optimizing his resources. He simply humbles from one plot point to the next, all while never truly in any danger because the plot bends over backwards to protect him from any harm. Any "mistake" he makes will retroactively change over time to actually benefit him. Despite never having an ounce of charisma or personality, every woman wants to fuck him, and every man respects him.
The universe quite literally revolves around Gudao, and it bends over backwards to make sure that he's safe and never in any actual danger, even when he's fighting armies, reality warpers, eldritch entities, and literal gods
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I think it's a newer one introduced in OC. I don't think it is in any OST up to OST 6. OST 7 was released last year but it's not on youtube. I'll go through all the OST just in case.
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>>577515276
Did you enjoy Archetype Inception, friends?
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>>577516229
EAT THIS! BETTER OUTFIT! CHANGE NOW!
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>>577516356
Ok.
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>>577516089
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>>577516229
Only exceptionally large ones.
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i cant play OC3 but i cant understand how it can be considered so bad when it has so many characters which are highly beloved like eresh, BB, kiara, the Tsukihime girls and so on
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>>577516356
>every woman wants to fuck him
Paisen doesn't
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>>577516356
upvoted
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drake, sanzang and makima swimsuit next year
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>>577516546
And its written by nasu. It cant be that bad
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>>577516621
actually it's Huyan, Lip, Tiamat, Kriem, Crane, Miyu and Shiki next year
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>>577516546
Doesnt have my FAVORITE = BAD.
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Just beautiful. Tomorrow her 4th append will be maxed and 5 days later her last append will be maxed.
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>>577516446
Not enjoying the battles desu
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>>577516524
mama looks so good in everything
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I did the main summer event and now it's getting pivoted into Ordeal Call 3, does that mean I need to have read the two previous ordeal calls to understand what's going on? I'm a bit behind story-wise.
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>>577516446
Not finished yet. Was busy the past few days so I've only started reading today. Just reached section 17, think I'm gonna take a break for now and come back to it later.
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>>577516809
omg kingprotea babu
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looking at okki's ears reminded me I have great difficulty telling kemonomimi cat, wolf, and fox ears apart barring blatant bigcat ears
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>>577516621
You're on to something there, anon.

First Rateup
>4 Star Drake
>4 Star Sanzou
>5 Star Arcueid

Second Rateup
>4 Star Zenobia
>4 Star Semirami
>5 Star Shuten

Welfare: Kuku (we all know Nasu loved her and wants to shill her)
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>>577516710
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>>577516826
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https://x.com/i/status/2087964148734783816


New Servantverse Lore Drop
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>>577516809
>Palter is a tablet baby
Amazing
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>>577516894
As someone who just finished it OC3 actually doesn't spoil anything about OC1 or OC2. Maybe super mundane passing comment that flew by me. You may as well just do it now while it's here.
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>>577516546
>eresh, kiara
>highly beloved
Lol
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Should I drop this kusoge and start Arknights with it's new smooth and high resolution PC client?
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>>577515631
>power requires character to be a virgin for it to work
Um
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>>577517230
*its
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>>577517230
play both, but yes start arknights, every gacha player should have tried it
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>>577517230
>arknights
ror
rmao
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>>577517187
>lets pretend people dont love these characters
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>>577517316
Your not my teacher unc
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>>577517260
That's fine. Gudao is a gacha character so he's canonically going to be a virgin that never has sex
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>>577515631
>>577516356
Gudao wishes he had as much plot armor as Shirou lmao
Hell, the so revered OuS aka Miyuverse Shirou requires every other grail war participants to have negative IQ and skills for him to clear the entire war in the a single war.
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>yfw Lilith singlehandedly save summer
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>>577517489
wow hes just like me
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>>577516546
When you have too many star characters they crowd each other out.
Characters fulfill roles in a story and a synergy of complimentary roles enhances a scene. If you take out the comic relief and add another serious character, every scene feels more serious and humorless. If you replace all the clueless characters that ask leading exposition questions with copies of Holmes then you'd just have whole scenes of "*nods knowingly*"
OC3 transplants a lot of strong characters out of their natural dynamics and then kind of rushes through them sequentially.
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>>577517702
Not a single good character here damn
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Is there an index of sound effects on Atlas? I know they HAVE the sound effects, they have them there in the story scripts, but I'm looking for KP's teleporting sound, which obviously is only in battle.
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>>577517702
/alter/ will absolutely not roll for girls who wear the fucking crocs right
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>>577517702
The only thing I really have against that summer lineup is the SR that isn't the boob dragon. At least the other servants that aren't released in NA yet have designs I like
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>>577517702
>mfw
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>>577517440
pretend?
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>>577517702
>Take the single most gameplayfag DPS servant ever released
>Make her a Rider
>She's instantly shit
This whole fucking class is cursed
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>>577517962
I don't see Olga as a Rider here
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>>577517865
I appreciate they did something creative with the daddy/daughter duo but it's definitely not for me.
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>>577517958
to behave as if something is true when you know that it is not, especially in order to deceive
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>>577517702
>hm... how do we kill FGO so Aniplex would let us go
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>>577518091
Rider Olga will be FGOs first ever Eid servant
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>>577516458
nooooo Captain Ginyu but I like that ascension
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>>577518096
Hopefully this means they're testing the waters for other duo servants like Ryouma/Oreo and Castor/Pollux
If nothing comes out of it then may a thousand calamities befall TM, Lasengle and Aniplex
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>>577517702
Saving 2 years for best birb.
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>>577518341
why
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>>577517702
>2 Summer Kingprotea servants
>But we can't even get 3 normal ascensions sprites for one Aesc and Ciel
Wtf
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>>577516809
Someone please synchronize and overlay the two proteas doing the worm so it looks like they're humping each other
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>>577518413
Because she's the obligatory neutral AOE arts gameplayfag catnip of the year, obviously.
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>>577516526
The bigger, the better.
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>>577518426
Fate is a Bigger lover franchise
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>>577515375
Arc stated she was summoned by the Moon to get rid of the AI humanity living on the surface. The NA translation fucked up by making it seem Earth was dead and it was Earth who called her, when it was actually the dead Moon.
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>>577518413
Because she brightens my days.
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>l*pper
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>>577518846
Why do people just make up shit?
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>>577519221
woah who is this?
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Why do I feel like BB cucked me with the Hakunos...
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>>577519221
>she's married so even if you beg Sigurd and Bryn they won't give their daughter to (you)
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>>577519490
Because you can’t read lol
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>>577519234
You can ignore every single post that says "The NA translation fucked up..." without accompanying script comparisons and miss literally nothing.
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>>577517517
>Gudao wishes he had as much plot armor as Shirou lmao
Yeah, no. All of the bad ends are canon, so Shirou actually gets punished for his mistakes.
Meanwhile, Gudao regularly survives fire fights, attacks from literal armies of divine spirits or divine spirit tier enemies, reality warpers, and outright gods that make Gilgamesh look like fodder.
When Gudao makes a mistake, there is no consequence. In fact, he's usually rewarded for it. Remember when he got Da Vinci killed so he could save some literal who trust find baby? Don't worry bro! She's back, she's not mad, and she's a loli now! FGO is littered with writing like this too.
When Shirou makes a mistake, he loses his servant, his arm, or his life. And when he really fucks up, he spends a literal eternity suffering as a counter guardian.
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>>577519524
>she's married
Even better.
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>>577519582
Gudao is not an actual character this is the most pointless thing to get mad about ever
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>>577519234
Look for the script yourself: https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/NA/script/0400041751
>Archetype: EARTH I wasn't obeying her. I was simply answering the moon's own request.
>Archetype: EARTH We may have been dead for some time now, but it's still our purpose to honor requests from celestial bodies.
>もう死んで随分経っていますが、
天体の願いを聞き届けるのが私たちの意義なので。
She is talking about the Moon being dead and asking for her help.
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>>577519570
You're right, but it's still weird to see this doubling down
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>>577519582
>All of the bad ends are canon
Then the Good End is also canon, so Shirou canonically has giga plot armor.
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>>577519730
>Gudao is not an actual character this is the most pointless thing to get mad about ever
Angry? I'm not angry. I'm just baffled that people can defend Gudao's "character" or complete lack of it.
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>>577519221
New Miwa artbook? That wasn't on my radar at all.
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>>577519743
>Literally fucking says it was the Moon's own request
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Now that it’s over; here’s the official music video for OC3 featuring its theme song Wonderer!
Do you like the video?
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>>577519848
Shirou's plot armor is nowhere near as thick as Gudao's.

Almost every time Shirou is saved, there's a justifiable and reasonable reason for WHY. It's never an asspull, and it never feels unearned.
Fuyuki Fire: Shirou would've died here if Kiritsugu didn't dig him out of the rubble and then give him Avalon. This is the exciting incident of the entire story and it serves as the background for the previous holy grail war, the origin of Shirou's shattered psyche, and the origin of Shirou's power

Archer vs Lancer: Shirou only survived this because Rin sacrificed her mana gems to save him, which only happened because of the relationship that Shirou had unknowingly cultivated with Sakura and Rin.

Versus Illya and Berserker: Shirou survives here because of Avalon, which is in him because of Kiritsugu

Versus Medea in UBW: Shirou survives because Rin and Archer wanted to save him -- Rin being she likes him, and Archer because he wants to psychologically break Shirou before killing him, so he create a time paradox and erase himself from existence

Versus Gilgamesh: Shirou only survives because Archer saves him twice in the fight. First with a Rho Ahia. Second when he shoots Gil in the head. Archer does this because Shirou has rekindled the heroism and hope in Archer's heart, which means that Archer now genuinely wants Shirou to succeed

Versus the Shadow: Shirou only survives here because Archer decides to give Shirou his arm. Archer does this because he (Archer) knows he's going to die anyway. So why not give his power to Shirou, so that Shirou can continue the fight against the shadow in his stead. Narratively, this works because Archer is putting his duty as a counter guardian over his ambition to kill Shirou

Versus Hercules: Shirou only wins this fight because Herc is blind, and because Illya distracts Herc. It's a logical sequence events for how Shirou won

Should I keep going?
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>>577513161
Saying stupid shit in bigger words doesn't make it less stupid. You stooooopid.
It is not only easy, but downright essential in both moral (and legal) philosophy and ehics to separate human dignity from human life in literal terms (though religious perspectives tend to equate the two). One can consider the forceful termination of life to be an affront to human dignity in itself, but it's a difficult line of reasoning to defend for obvious reasons (the human no longer exists), leaving the damage, and thus the evil of the act, to be thought of in terms of the suffering it causes to others (friends, family, dependants, etc.) as well as the general fear of death and insecurity it provokes on a social level.
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>>577520640
>It's a logical sequence events for how Shirou won
Nine Lives Blade Works was a complete and total asspull.
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>Karna makes everything worse because he did something stupid and his personal honor demands he see it through
He really exemplifies the pajeet mindset. Every single time he shows up, he ruins everything and makes it everyone's problem for the sake of his izzat.
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To this day, no character has ever reached the depth Kiara has.
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>>577516787
How much FP did you use anon?
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>>577521215
I'm not willing to touch a hole that deep
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>>577521215
Her vagina is very deep
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>>577520247
Yes
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>>577521215
You're referring to her pussy, correct?
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>>577521260
400k
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>>577521260
Hakuno is such a nice girl she played house with a skinwalker so it would be less lonely.
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>>577521260
Every time I see this pic I must stop for a few seconds to stare at those tits...
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Finally cleared OC3. Honestly, I found the Hakuno fight less annoying than the Moon Cancer. Maybe because I had less slots locked, even if the game tried to gaslight you into using Mashu.
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>>577520879
>Nine Lives Blade Works was a complete and total asspull.
No? The rules of projection had already been established in the Fate Route and the Unlimited Blade Works route.
The Fate route established how projection worked. We learned that the projected weapons remembered the speed, the fighting styles, and the techniques of the original wielder. Shirou even remarks that the weapons he projected were pulling him along and moving at speeds impossible for him to do with his own effort, all while executing techniques that were impossible for Shirou to know. Then, later in the story, we see Shirou project Caliburn with Saber and use it's Noble Phantasm to slay Hercules. Then, before the final battle, Shirou projects Avalon, which works exactly as the original did -- most notably with the intangibly effect, which plays a key role in the final fight with Gilgamesh.
Next we have Unlimited Blade Works. Shirou projects Emiya's blades and immediately goes from being blitzed by Kuzuki (who was moving at servant tier speeds) to matching him blow for blow. Later, Archer tells Artoria that he can replicate Excalibur and use it's Noble Phantasm.
Then in HF, Shirou projects Hercules' sword, which gives him Hercales' martial skills and his noble phantasm, Nine Lives. This is consistent with every projection shown so far in the story.
After this, Shirou projects the Jeweled Sword for Rin. It's a perfect replication that allows Rin to use the Second True Magic.
In Spark Liners High, we see Shirou use Triple Crane Wing, even though he'd never seen Archer use it. That's because he immediately know about the technique due to projecting Archer's blades.
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Did it get banned somewhere else? What did we do to draw it in?
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>>577520640
>Almost every time Shirou is saved, there's a justifiable and reasonable reason for WHY. It's never an asspull, and it never feels unearned.
Mf trained wrong for 10 years, and he said it himself that one mistake and he would have fucking died and crippled himself forever.
He lived still anyway.
>Archer vs Lancer
He survived twice against Cu.
>Redman vs Herc
Herc should have turned him into paste then rushed to clap Shirou, Saber and Rin while they were fucking each other.
>Fate route Herc
Saber used Excalibur and lost, Shirou then had to use cs to stop her from using Excalibur, only to switch to a weaker sword Caliburn, yet they won anyway.
Shit doesn't make a lick of sense, especially when he could use cs to boost Excalibur but Nasu just had to put that part in.
>Kirei
Kirei went full retarded in Fate, didn't finish off Rin, and when he fought Shirou he stood there like a retard flinging some mud. He used neither the super kungfu or cs against Shirou who should be vastly slower than CA Hassan.
>vs Rin
He should have lost, and only survived because the game allows you to make a progress once you clear Fate route.
The whole Oath under Snow as mentioned is chock full of plot armor.
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I threw a 100x roll in the FP pool to see if I could get a Hakuno but I actually got lmao 2cat.
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Lilith is weird but probably good? She's got the Rider curse where instead of having strong specialized buffs, she has a large amount of low-numbers buffs that are partywide, because for some reason every Rider must be a hybrid support.

Her actual damage is high from stacking pmods like her base version but suffers from the same issue that she's a one-off nuke because her modifiers are applied to her targets via skills and then lost when she kills them.
Her really unique gimmick is being able to choose to self-sacrifice with her NP like an SSR Arash. As a high single turn damage AoE with partywide effects this obviously has a lot of application for multicore but there's an issue with running Arash with 16 cost for farming, and her characteristically high single-turn damage is not as valuable on an AoE servant.

Overall suffers the rider's curse. Not unusable but could've bee a lot better.
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I kind of want to gold Fou Hakuno...is 2k'ing her or Phantasmoon a better idea?
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>>577521876
>Mf trained wrong for 10 years, and he said it himself that one mistake and he would have fucking died and crippled himself forever.
>He lived still anyway.
This isn't plot armor. It's meant to show how utterly insane and inhuman Shirou's damaged psyche has made him.
>He survived twice against Cu
Archer the servant? We're not talking about him. His fights against Cu make sense. For Shirou? He died in his first encounter with Cu and was only saved by his bond with the Tohsaka family. For the second encounter? Shirou stalled until Saber was summoned. It's not plot armor because Lancer was playing with him and literally taunting him the entire time.
>Herc should have turned him into paste then rushed to clap Shirou
No? Emiya can keep up with Cu in melee due to Eye of the Mind. Unlimited Blade Works gives him a weapon output similar to Gate of Babylon. Projection lets him swap to the fighting style of any servant he chooses on top of letting him use their noble phantasm
>He should have lost, and only survived because the game allows you to make a progress once you clear Fate route.
Rin wasn't actually trying to kill him. She was just being tsun and edgy

I concede on Saber vs Herc round 2 and Kirei though. Shirou still has much less plot armor than Gudao though
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>>577518846
>>577519743
Without having delved too deeply at either works, this is a reversal of the call order that happens in the Tsukihime world and Notes, no?
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>>577521851
Someone took the gifted name from Tam Lin Janny and he couldn't hold back the calamity anymore.
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DUHHHHH ME PROTAGONIST SURVIVE IMPOSSIBLE ODDS??? NO MAKE SENSE!!!! WHERE ME PLOT ARMOR!!!!
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Zeltretch wins against the Crimson Moon = Fate Timeline
Zelretch wins against the Crimson Moon, but is greviously injured, loses most of his power, and is turned into a Vampire = Tsukihime Timeline

Why is Zeltretch so important to the timeline? And what would have happened if he lost his fight versus the Crimson Moon?
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Is this the peak of FGO?
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>>577522876
Wada you fucking RUINED IT!!!
The third ascensions should have been an S Protea and an M Palter.
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Why does this npc look like Charlie Kirk
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>>577522864
>And what would have happened if he lost his fight versus the Crimson Moon?
Then you just get a vampire utopia, I guess?
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>>577523090
>Then you just get a vampire utopia, I guess?
Would humanity get wiped out in that timeline? Or would everyone just be a vampire?
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I’m skipping Louhi for Gamer Arc
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>>577522864
Zelretch is to the Tsukihime timeline what Sephar is to FGO. The defining turning point character.
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>>577523283
Me too!
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>>577523283
>no long hair
>no femdom vibes
>Tsukihime personality instead of her kuudere princess personality
I sleep
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>>577522585
>This isn't plot armor. It's meant to show how utterly insane and inhuman Shirou's damaged psyche has made him.
>I would die if I do this but I live anyway
>no you don't understand it's not plot armor
>For the second encounter? Shirou stalled until Saber was summoned. It's not plot armor because Lancer was playing
>believe me bro it's not plot armor
>Cu is fucking weak that he couldn't even pierce through a weakly reinforced metal sheet and so fucking slow that he let his prey escape
>Unlimited Blade Works gives him a weapon output similar to Gate of Babylon.
Lower rank means Herc could tank way more.
>Projection lets him swap to the fighting style of any servant he chooses on top of letting him use their noble phantasm
We see Herc fought Saber the King Arthur and he demolished her every time.
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>>577523283
I'm skipping both for... I don't even know it's grim
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>>577522864
Zeltrech is the basically the most powerful earth-origin character in TM. He's both the quintessential magus and the exemplar of what reaching the root and achieving True Magic looks like. True Magic itself is so powerful, so rule-breaking and world bending that anyone who actually uses it is inevitably going to effectively define history with their actions.

In Tsukihime specifically, Zeltretch is necessary to explain why the Crimson Moon, an openly malevolent entity working to eradicate humanity and usurp the world, hasn't wiped out humanity yet. In effect it challenged humankind and lost because there was someone on earth capable of beating it. So now it pursues a more surreptitious method of meeting its goals, which is what allows the world of Tsukihime to be a modern fantasy story set in metropolitan Japan, and still allows there to be a cadre godlike vampires and their various ghouls and familiars all secretly working to rule the world
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>>577523524
>Short hair Arc is the real Arc
>Smelly girl vibes are better
>Tsukihime personality is the real Arc
I'm awakened
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>clear OC3
wat now? I have to farm the 90++ node for like 40 days?
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>>577523751
Uhhh if you want I guess. I actually completely forgot that the event was still farmable right now. Does the 90++ have good item drops?
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Kama Love!
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>>577523427
Arcu love!
>>577523524
All arcs are good arcs (short hair is peak)
>>577523581
I’m sorry to hear that anon…. who are your favorites?
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>>577521708
Trying to sound authoritative on this topic is somewhat undercut by your seeming ignorance of the past +20 years of meta discussion about the incongruity between Shirou pulling Nine Lives from the history of the stone slab and the fact that the slab had no history of being used to execute Nine Lives.
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>>577523847
it drops eggs at a better rate at least but that's it
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>>577523206
I haven't read the remake but in the original most victims of DAs just became ghouls rather transforming. DAAs and by extension DAs exist to destroy humanity and instinctively regard humans as food and are driven to kill and feed on them to compel them to carry out that destruction. They aren't the product of some competing strain of natural evolution, they're Elementals (like Fate's fairies and Divine Spirits) created for the express purpose of destroying humanity.

So a world where the Crimson Moon won would just be a world where humanity is wiped out, the Crimson Moon becomes Gaia and then either presumably fills the world with new forms of vampiric life modeled in its own image, or produces an even more powerful UO vessel and moves on to its next cosmic victim.
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Do you need multiple copies of characters for them to be good or does it not matter much?
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>>577523538
>I would die if I do this but I live anyway
No? It's if I fuck up, I die. But the risk is worth it because doing this allows me to pursue my dreams of becoming a hero. If I die, so be it. That's what you're supposed to take from that scene
>Cu is fucking weak that he couldn't even pierce through a weakly reinforced metal sheet and so fucking slow that he let his prey escape
Cu wasn't trying. He was frustrated that Kirei was making him act like a glorified hitman. And as the fight progressed, he went from frustrated to amused by Shirou's resolve, so he started toying with him. Cu was NEVER going all out. He didn't even use his servant tier speed once during the fight.
>Lower rank means Herc could tank way more.
And? Emiya is still extremely competent. I don't understand why you're trying to pretend that Archer Emiya is weak. Eye of the Mind + Projection + Unlimited Blade Works + Broken Phantasm is an absolutely busted combo.
>We see Herc fought Saber the King Arthur and he demolished her every time.
Emiya fought Cu in melee twice due to Eye of the Mind + knowledge of how Cu's fighting noble phantasm worked. Nasu said Cu could beat Hercules. So Emiya beating Herc 6 times makes sense, since he has Eye of the Mind, he can fight on par with someone who CAN beat Herc, and he knows Herc's NP
ALSO, we see Arched Emiya threaten to stalemate Saber in UBW with his own Excalibur. He knows he can't beat Artoria, but he's sure he can secure a mutal kill. Then we see him BTFO in Fate Hollow Ataraxia. Again, Emiya isn't fodder, and I don't know why you think he is.
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>>577524275
For 90++ usually yes, outside of 90++ you can manage just fine without
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>>577524275
Multiple copies are always good.
Most AOE farming servants become "properly" usable at NP2-3, especially ones with trait multiplies like Arc/Aesc.
But this is typically only matters when you're trying to 3T 6CE 90++ nodes, which yes is most of the content in the game at the end of the day but usually you can 5CE with even NP1 servants or borrow servants if your supports (which don't need NP levels at all) are high quality.
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>>577524275
It depends.
In most case NP1 is enough for general use and there are a lot of meta characters that really don't benefit at all from extra NP levels, like Koyanskaya or Oberon.

For a lot of damage-oriented servants, NP2 can be nice because it's a pretty considerable jump in power. Returns diminish for each level above that, so NP3-5 is never worth it just for gameplay and is something you'd only bother with if that servant is your absolute fav.

In the very endgame high-difficulty farming content, NP2 is often desirable because it makes teambuilding more flexible (ie need fewer buffs to reach the necessary damage) but nobody just starting FGO today should be thinking "I better roll NP2 now so that I can meta-optimize when I catch up in 3 years"

The best way to spend your rolls is to get 1 copy the meta support servants:
Oberon
Altria Caster
Koyanskaya

And then from there just roll your favourites. If, at a later date, you decide you really want NP2 to make farming something easier you can always just roll it then. We're 2 years behind the jp server so we know all the rateups well in advance and can plan rolls.
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>>577523947
>and the fact that the slab had no history of being used to execute Nine Lives.
The Nasuverse is canonically a multiverse, and Berserker Hercules will always be summoned with that Slab. FGO also showcases that he CAN use Nine Lives if he's slightly coherent, which is why it's his Noble Phantasm. Nasu doubles on this in interviews and even says that if Hercules were in a better state of mind, that he would've countered with his own Nine Lives. This would explain why the slab of metal has the "history" of Nine Lives embedded within it.
Tl;Dr: the setting is a multiverse, and Berserker Herc has used nine lives with the slab multiple times, moreover, the world recognizes it as Berserker Herc's weapon of choice
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>>577524275
>>577524454
>>577524482
>>577524837
Oh yeah probably worth mentioning too, multiple copies let you get coins faster which lets you unlock appends faster. This is a whole can of worms but basically every servant benefits from Append 2 and Append 5 can be extremely helpful and allow unique combos on some servants and is just very good on others. Fortunately these two are easy to get at NP1 (If you can accept not being able to 120 at NP1) but even still I'd say most "serious" farming comps will only expect Append 2 at level 10.
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>>577520605
both the song and the video are super mid
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I don't get it. What makes Phantasmoon / Gamer Girl Arc so good gameplaywise? The memelist has her as one of the best servants in the game, and I don't understand why.
Is it because of her 30% party charge and AOE NP? Her NP damage doesn't seem that impressive imo. And her skills outside of her 20% charge aren't that good either.
I feel like someone like Kuku (raw DPS) or Aesc (same evil niche and way more party charge) would be way better gameplaywise
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>>577522864
Zelretch is way stronger in Tsukihime since he inherited Idea Blood. He just can't oppose Crimson Moon.
But Zelretch is only an aging old man in Fate timelines.
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>space eresh's final ascesnion is....the 2 previous ascension fusing
>golden BB is...the other 2 BB fusing
Bravo nasu
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>>577525419
Her silky smooth feet.
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>>577525153
Anon, new players aren't going to have the fucking mats or lores for regular skills let alone append skills.

I genuinely don't know why retards here always respond to new players by trying to braindump the year-9 endgame meta to them. They're going to be playing a wholly different game from you for years while they raise basic skills, farm gems and monuments and clear Part 1 story content with a friend's borrowed servant. Endgame resource sinks like Append skills aren't going to be relevant for ages and it would absolutely be a noob trap to waste materials on them before rounding out your roster with servants that can actually clear content for you.
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>>577525593
It's a good thing I wasn't meta dumping and was just explaining an integral feature of the game then. Knowing about appends/which appends are good is helpful at any point since you have evocation servants.
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>>577524376
>That's what you're supposed to take from that scene
Then don't introduce the training as a deadly one then have your mc survive for 10 years.
Instead, that part makes it looks like the ordeal of FSN but 10 years.
>Cu wasn't trying.
It's called plot armor, given that Kirei's cs was against Servant and not humans.
>Emiya is still extremely competent.
>botched his timing for Rin making a contract with Saber
>died like a bitch in his original timeline
>got the ability to add Rule Breaker's effect onto every np, didn't use it against anyone
>threatened Saber with Excalibur and not Clarent when it's a much easier np to trace
>HF Shirou also didn't use Clarent against Saber Alter
>could trace jewel sword for unlimited mana, didn't do it so he's at 10% power when he's about to kill Shirou
>knew Herc had weakness in the form of an arrow dipped in centaur's blood, didn't trace it when he had read through Herc's life story
>Herc
So it's plot armor that Herc became a retarded jobber whose job is to hype others
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>>577523751
You will farm the worm for the next 8 months, until we get Grand Duels, also be prepared ahead of time and bond CE your intended Grand
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>aoe ruler with np on turn 1 boss
>moon cancer forced support 1
>1* shittier support 2
Why did nips like this garbage chapter again?
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>>577525995
What's the first duel we unlock? Is it Saber?
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>>577525995
Don't most people get anything they grail to bond 10?
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>>577526043
Probably had something to do with the fact that that was a gimmick fight so none of that actually mattered.
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>>577526043
they dont
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what did you guys think of OC3? personally, i feel like it tried to do too much at once and i couldn't really get invested too much into it. protea alter was fun and very cute, though and i'm a bit pissed they manage to cram every member of the sakura 5 EXCEPT melt
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>>577526298
>every member of the sakura 5 EXCEPT melt
Retardbros...
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>>577525812
>botched his timing for Rin making a contract with Saber
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about here
>died like a bitch in his original timeline
Not plot armor lol. If your intention here it to paint Emiya as incompetent because of this, then you're incorrect, because Emiya gained all of his experience and competency as a counter guardian
>got the ability to add Rule Breaker's effect onto every np, didn't use it against anyone
Are you talking about that Broken Phantasm retcon from a few years ago? That unironically doesn't count because it was added to the lore over a decade after the visual novel was written.
>threatened Saber with Excalibur and not Clarent when it's a much easier np to trace
>HF Shirou also didn't use Clarent against Saber Alter
He can only use weapons he's seen, and he's never seen Clarent Blood. Moreover, he's not aware of the conceptual, anti Arthur properties that such a weapon would have
>could trace jewel sword for unlimited mana, didn't do it so he's at 10% power when he's about to kill Shirou
It's not that simple. If I remember correctly, only Rin could use it.
>knew Herc had weakness in the form of an arrow dipped in centaur's blood, didn't trace it when he had read through Herc's life story
That's not plot armor. That's just Shirou not using the technique you wanted him to use.
>So it's plot armor that Herc became a retarded jobber whose job is to hype others
No? There were clear story reasons for why Herc was insane, blind, and stripped of godhand before Shirou fought him
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>>577526072
Yes. It shows the order in that image.
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>>577526418
violet doesn't count
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>>577526512
Why
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>>577526298
I like it. It's like a boss rush.
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>>577525593
I’m not brand new I played this game like 6 or 7 years ago and randomly got the urge to pick it back up, just didn’t know if I should be saving my quartz for new characters or focusing on the ones I have already
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>>577525995
Do we seriously have to farm the fucking Grand Duels for months? That sounds tedious as fuck, especially because you can't just take 3 supports + your DPS of choice. And what if my Grand Choice isn't meta? Do I just have to the bite the bullet and spend like 5-10 turns farming it every time?
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Gonna DP BB with my Extra bro, bros
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>>577526746
she's not in the game. simple as.
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Thoughts on Takeuchi's Grand servants?
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>>577526139
Rider and Assassin see lack of usage outside of Koyan. Saber is the first so people aren't use to it yet.
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>>577526298
Another certified banger. Bravo, Nasu did it again!
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>>577527025
Takeuchi has Grand Tez and Grand Mash, bro
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Reminder that for your chosen Grand Servant, they MUST be grailed to level 100. Not 80, not 90. 100. That's a minimum of 5 grails per Grand (7 for SRs). Your chosen Grand will get a special CE slot that allows they to equip their bond CE in addition to normal CEs for free. So it's strongly recommended that you Bond 10 your Grand so they can use their Bond CE.

You MUST actually Grand a servant to access the farming content for that Grand Raid. Grand Raids have better gem/material/QP output that lotteries. They're the best farming content the game will ever get and they're time-sensitive. After their launch period ends, they will cost storm pods to farm, meaning they drop to 3 runs a day from being infinite.

You will want to have your Grand candidate prepared for the release so that you can blow apples and get as much out of farming it as possible. You can always change your Grand later down the line if a new servant comes out or something, it's not worth skipping the release period to save grails for a later servant or something.

Grand Duels will release monthly throughout the next year starting in May. The order is
>Saber
>Berserker
>Lancer
>Extra 1&2
>Rider
>Assassin
>Archer
>Caster
In jp, Extra was released alongside the anniversary and overlapped with Summer, so there's a possibility that EN's schedule, with our earlier anni, may be different. Plan ahead so that you have the grails/xp to raise your Grand candidate when their duel releases.
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>Hakuno just plowed through 3 What-If wonder by himself
How good are the Hakunos canonically? I felt like they are really fucking strong
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>>577525995
Already have lv100 Bond 12 Jason, bro
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>>577527171
They are literally (You)
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>>577527126
>Takeuchi has Grand Tez and Grand Mash, bro
Oh, you're right.
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>>577517517
Shirou, the dude who has over 40 bad endings from every single retarded decision he makes, some coming from the fact that he can't get along with his servants because he doesn't have the "he gets along with everyone because his bland and lack of personality is so likeable" powerpower?
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>>577527134
Instead of their bond CE you can't you use one that gives 50 charge?
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Who tf is Pieceman?
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>>577526475
>I honestly have no idea what you're talking about here
He planned to have Rin make a contract with Saber, but only after Shirou had been killed.
Instead, Rin made the contract first and allowed Saber to fight back.
>He can only use weapons he's seen, and he's never seen Clarent Blood. Moreover, he's not aware of the conceptual, anti Arthur properties that such a weapon would have
What? How is this even possible when he got like tons of other shit in UBW and he was Saber's master in his original timeline?
>If I remember correctly, only Rin could use it.
So he only needs to turn on the auto function and whatnot just like with other np.
Kinda like how Rule Breaker is supposed to be Medea's crystalized divinity but it's treated like some cheap np anyway.
>That's not plot armor. That's just Shirou not using the technique you wanted him to use.
That part is related to his competency.
>There were clear story reasons for why Herc was insane, blind, and stripped of godhand before Shirou fought him
That part is still Fate route where Redman fought Herc.
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>>577527376
>both have logres and athuria
how are they so fucking boring, bros?
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>>577527134
Will farming be impossible if I grand low tier servants?
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>>577526298
It felt like they tried to cram too much stuff into it, lack of interesting fights in the first 2 parts followed by a couple of butt blasting fights on part 3.
I liked the EXTRA/CCC fanservice but sometimes it went a tad too far with Hakuno and Fujimaru masturbating each other due to both of them being seasoned masters, they just did it a tad too frequently.
Overall kind of messy but i didn't dislike it at all i think it was better than OC1 by a long shot but doesn't quite reach the heights of the best LBs.
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>>577527567
2030 man
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>>577527603
It's honestly kind of soulful that Takeuchi grailed Saber Artoria, but not Saber Logress.
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OHAYO ARCHETYPE-CHAN
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>>577527567
The guy in the 2030 CE that summoned Buddha
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>>577527171
I mean it all depends because it's multiple timelines/universe mumbo jumbo. But theoretically, they have access to the Moon Cell which is a crazy computer made by actual aliens, so pretty fucking strong.
Also they're just very competent masters, obviously.
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>>577527612
https://youtu.be/e4hFD_izMI4?si=DHp7pmZUtKznS3Y-
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>>577526298
It's very messy, and it for some reason beind the second half of a summer event make it feel very rushed because they also have to cram the Summer servants into it. I can see why it was controversial on release
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Wtf is an archetype?
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>>577527025
Except for that Kagetora trace, this is the most soulless grand list possible. Maybe swap Ciel with Salomon
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>>577527767
Liz swimmsuit when Nasu????!!!
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So BB dubai is stronger than Arcueid right
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>>577527961
Hell no.
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>>577527961
arc doesn't take anything seriously so she'll never fight with her full strength and if she did she would be number wan
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I have not bond 10 ANYONE, I did not plan for Grand duel at all
is it time for me to LOCK IN?
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>>577527923
Gensai has the best damage modifiers against Grand Assassin. NP5 can do it without Black Grail.
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>>577527496
>the dude who has over 40 bad endings
You mean Shirou, the dude who kills Gilgamesh the King of Heroes and overcomes 20+ Bad Ends with ease.
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Zelretch Core Powers & Abilities:
The Second Magic (Kaleidoscope): Allows absolute observation, manipulation, and travel across infinite parallel worlds. He can pull boundless energy, mass, or alternate states from other dimensions into the current reality.
Infinite Mana Generation: Through his creation, the Jeweled Sword Zelretch, he can siphon an endless supply of magical energy directly from alternate timelines, bypassing any conventional limits of human or earthly mana.

Is nasu a vsbattlewiki fag
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>>577527875
>assassin node with a buster servant
I mean
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>>577528047
But enough about Gil
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>>577528049
Better get to Worm wrangling bro.
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>Please set Geromino as a Starting Member
>Please set Mash (Ortinax) as a starting member
>preselected some NPC support for you

AHHHHHHHHHHH JUST LET ME USE MY OWN UNITS HOLY FUCK
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>>577528136
lmao, fair enough
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>>577528084
Shirou got a fluke win against not serious Gil. Guda fucks full power Gilgamesh in the ass daily in Chaldea bedroom. They are not the same.
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>>577528141
Only just return to the game, wtf is Worm wrangling?
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>>577528084
Anyone can kill Gilgameme, I did it the other day
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>>577528371
guda looks photoshopped here
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>>577528084
>You mean Shirou, the dude who kills Gilgamesh the King of Heroes
Never happened. Shirou, with the mana of Rin and Archer saving his ass twice, best a Gilgamesh who was fucking around in a fight (until it was too late for him to get serious), but he still didn't have enough power to land the killing blow.
>overcomes 20+ Bad Ends with ease.
If he died, then he didn't overcome them. The 6 endings you see in Fate Stay Night are the only timelines where Shirou won. There are 40 bad end timelines where Shirou died or lost. That means that Shirou has 0.015% success rate. That's the literal OPPOSITE of plot armor.
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>>577528371
Fucking bitch Nasu stop trying to make me want to kiss giant girls
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>>577528047
>if she did she would be number wan
if you wanna see some action
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>>577528705
>if you wanna see some action
GOTTA BE THE CENTER OF ATTRACTION

they don't make shonen like they used too, bros
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reminder that kiara is thhe bonney blue of fate
Would you still do her
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I am seriously considering getting into Tsukihime because whatever is going on between Ciel and Arc seem interesting
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>>577528882
Truth: it's not
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>>577528496
>those timelines where Shirou dies is when he has no plot armor
>those timelines where Shirou wins is when he got plot armor
It is that simple anon.
Even Nasu admits in some interview that it was divine intervention that Gil forgot to put on his armor in UBW.
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>>577528882
you're in for a rough surprise
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You know, since it's Palter, I am ok.
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>Don't get Ciel
>BB Summer is NP 1, BB Dubai is a longshot with what SQ I'll scrounge in the next couple weeks
>Completely screwed out of worm farming
Nice free quest design
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>>577523283
I'm skipping everyone because Ciel took me to pity....
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what is this worm farming you speak of?
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>>577528938
>it was divine intervention that Gil forgot to put on his armor in UBW.
It's 100% in character for Gil to not use his armor against some random teenager in a fight, Nasu doesn't know shit about Fate
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Yes
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>>577529121
You cultivate a new species inside sakuras p*ssy
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>Please set Eric Bloodaxe as your party member
KINO
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>>577527171
They were an absolute nobody in the Moon Cell HGW, but they still managed to win regardless. That same HGW was played mostly straight with minimal bullshit/complications, too (CCC happening aside). This was exactly what the antagonist, Twice, wanted to happen because a nobody like Hakuno winning proved his ideology of the weak becoming strong when confronted with war. In reality, despite Hakuno being an absolute garbage Wizard, they are an incredibly competent Master with extreme levels of compatibility with their Servants.

Enter Extella. The backstory is a little different because Nasu is fucking hack, but things mostly play out the same. As the victor, Hakuno now has the Regalia which basically amounts to Moon Cell admin privileges. Yes, it's about as broken as you'd expect it to be.
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>>577529039
You can borrow a Ciel and clear the worm quest just as easily. Assuming you AT LEAST have a Vitch.
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>>577529226
>Foreshadowing
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I really like Protea Alter not and I np5'd her on this banner. Still refuse to ever call her Palter.
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>>577529287
oh, right, she's filled with worms. i thought you guys were talking about an upcoming farming node or something. i'm fucking out of it today
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>>577529323
She's bond 15, which I suppose means Blavatsky remains the more efficient quest.
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Wait, where are the OC3 free quest farming nodes?
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>>577528938
>forgot
He didn't forget. He was just too cocky. That's Gil's fatal flaw.
He jobs in Fate because he toyed with Saber for half the route. And then when he finally fought her, he overcommitted with EA because he thought he was unbeatable with it.
He jobs in UBW because he can't fathom losing to a mentally ill high school student, so he refuses to go all out until it's too late.
He jobs in HF because he refused to take Sakura seriously as a genuine threat, which led to the shadow ambushing him.
He jobs in Strange Fake because he threw away the key to Gate of Babylon to try and make himself look badass to his master.
Gilgamesh is just a chronic jobber due to his ego. Never forget that he has an ability that grants him nigh omniscience (Sha naqba īmuru), yet he refuses to use it because it makes life feel too easy for him. And when he DOES use it, he IGNORES it when it shows him losing because his mind can't fathom the idea that he could lose.
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>>577527612
No.
One: Grand Duels farming quests are designed in such a way that the Grand Score buffs you've unlocked matter way more than the actual skills of your Grand (in most cases)

Two: The farming quests are easy enough that largely you can just have Automata slam cards and clear. Min-turning requires some luck and optimization but 3ting can be done with just about anyone

Three: you can borrow one of your friend grands, so even if your own grand is a meme servant like Jekyll, your friend's grand can just solo it for you.

The hp pools look inflated but that's just because the buffs from Grand Score are so insane. 1m is the new 100k.
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>>577529307
>Enter Extella. The backstory is a little different because Nasu is fucking hack, but things mostly play out the same
How the fuck did we go from "Hakuno gets detected as an error in the system due to being a literal NPC, and thus erased by the mooncell but getting a few seconds to save Rin/Rani thanks to their Servant" to "Hakuno becomes God"
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>>577528882
Those two are the least interesting things about Tsukihime
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>>577529538
Uhhhh don't quote me on this and I'm not going to look for you because I'm lazy, but I believe there's some Hakuno farming comps for the worms with 2x BB Dubai. Hakuno obviously needs to be pretty juiced but she gets a rape up with the next event so NP5 should be easy enough then.
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Sorry bro you pissed me off already
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>>577529356
Will you NP5 her summer alt too?
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Why does protea have larger breasts than alter? Is this a plot hole?
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>>577528049
Grand Duels are also the best bond farming in the game so your chosen grand will be bond 10 at least by the time the release event ends. Don't worry about it.

The most important thing is to not forget that they need to be grailed to 100. Don't get caught with no grails, or get forced to waste time farming xp during the grand duel because you forgot.
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>>577528882
read the original it's pretty good
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>>577529356
??? Wrong thread?
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>>577529839
Indra, Olga, Noah, Summer Kriem, and Gensai all come out around the same time as their respective Grand Duels so they are likely not bond 10 at the time
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>>577528119
Zeltretch has to be ridiculous because his main narrative purpose is to be the reason that a godlike being couldn't end the world.
The Root is like the source code to the universe's operating system and everyone who reaches it gets to come away with a cheat code exclusive to them. Supreme beings like the Crimson Moon are like game engines running on the universe's OS. Normally it would be impossible for a player playing the game to overcome console command "kill," but Zeltretch has alt-F4.
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>>577529831
because she is an actually good character
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>>577529831
purity is stored in the breasts
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>All of Atalante Alter's skills are fucking single turn.
Is there a bigger sign of a character being an utterly forgotten piece of shit?
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>>577529824
We need kill the mushroom
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>>577530493
[Stun self for x turns] is another huge one.
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>>577529039
You were warned to roll for Ciel, did you believe it was just misinformation against 2 years of solved gameplay?
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>>577527134
Another important thing to know:
Prior to each grand Duel, a series of rateups will run featuring EVERY gold servant in that class ever released, including Storylocked and Limited.
Each SSR will be on a separate rateup running in parallel, and each rateup will also have 1 SR.

If you don't yet have the servant you'd want to Grand for a given class or want more NP levels for them, that will be your chance. Over the course of the year, this means literally every servant ever released will be on rateup at one point or another for their corresponding Grand Duel.
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>>577530593
Oh yeah that's a really bad one. Also honorable mention to % Success skills.
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>>577530838
>MISS
>MISS
>3000
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>>577530765
I think this whole third part might have the best overall presentation in the entire game. ORT comes close but I don't know, it all just felt so unique and cool, including the Moon Cancer fight's visuals.
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Why is this BB with us so nice to the Sakura Five? She used to be an absolute asshole towards them.
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>>577530493
It's better to be forgotten than outright abandoned like some of the year 1 servants are. I would HATE to be a fan of Medea, Medea Lily, Stheno, George, Ko Gil etc.
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>this is modern day sherlock holmes and Moriarty
Really makes you think
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>>577531098
>Moriarty
Are you stupid???
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>>577530992
She got domesticated, but only a little.
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Would you read a Nasu VN set in the Servantverse?
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>>577531098
Jim Henson's Giant Sherlock Babies
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>>577530593
>2 turn stun every time she NPs
>dogshit 1 turn self buffs
>anemic damage on her NP
Fran needs a total overhaul. Her kit is literally worthless in 2026. Same with Tamamo Cat. You'd be better off just using fucking Spartacus and he's free and a fucking 1 star
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>Human persist on Earth
>The Earth want to kill itself
>Human moved to the Moon
>The Moon also want to fucking kill itself
Jesus, we really are cancer
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>>577530992
>be single and childless
>"moms are evil and daughters are all awful neurotic little monsters"
>become a mother
>"mom's are just misunderstood and their daughters are just struggling and striving and finding love in their own unique ways"
Becoming a parent always takes the edge off of any edgy writer.
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>>577531098
What does Kingprotea Alter smell like?
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>>577530992
She hates them less now that they are more functional and sane. KP, Lip and Melt are all working for the betterment of humanity now rather than being terrifying psychos she sees as bad character traits she shaved off.
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>>577531365
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Not again...
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>I actually have to beat her
Huh?
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>>577531601
Use your spells, sis. They are going to replenish soon anyways
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>>577531234
No.
The whole point of the servantverse is its tongue-in-cheek ill defined rules and nonsense handwaved by jargon.
Nasu's writing is always most interesting when it's establishing a setting with clear, empirical rules, relationships and boundaries and they set to work testing the limits of those boundaries and finding ways to break them that still make sense.

The best TM writer to do something set in the servantverse is unironically Sakurai.
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>>577531681
>No bars broken
DO NOT use the spells.
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>>577531681
I did a total of 0 damage because I didn't know she had permanent invencibility so didn't bring anything to pierce that
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>>577531601
>1 SQ
bwo... also who the fuck decided to add another kiara boss fight? i know it's all based on EXTRA but fuck off nasu with your slut waifu
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>>577529226
How did Palter go from this utterly hate filled, sneering demon to a moeblob like this? Are all Alters meant to just become tsunderes with hearts of gold hidden behind black clothes?
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>>577531601
be sure to bring a ignore invul CE for your main attacker, otherwise you are fucked
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>>577531601
Is this the first big Kiara fight where she doesn't have an NP?
You just have to break her first bar twice and survive her last turn.
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Nasu just made a kaiju event solely for his giantess fetish, bringing Kiara back for his EXTRA story is small fries
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>>577531540
*poops on seiba*
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https://x.com/i/status/2088254955153133759

Times have changed
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MOON CANCER FIGHT IS CANCER
I DON'T HAVE ANY HARD HITTING RULER
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>>577531918
Mental illness
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When they were talking about FSN, I didn't clap.
When they were talking about Tsukihime, I didn't clap.
When they were making different references here and there, I didn't clap.
...
......
But this? ...Yeah, I clapped.
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>>577531348
https://files.catbox.moe/t5a8rj.mp3
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>>577531996
Your Ciel or Space Eresh?
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>>577531996
Ciel absolutely dumpsters that fight lmao
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>>577531830
>How did Palter go from this utterly hate filled, sneering demon to a moeblob like this?
You unironically have media illiteracy. Kingprotea Alter wasn't full of hate and she wasn't even sadistic. Reread LB7. She was just being bratty and tsundere. She ALWAYS intended to help Gudao save the day. And she literally died for him towards the end of the story because she didn't want to see him suffer. And as she lay dying, she and Beni went out of their way to hide their deaths from Gudao and Mash so that they wouldn't feel bad.
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>>577527171
Hakuno beat Melt, Lip, Kiara and BB at their peak strength all with a single Servant.
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>>577532172
so could i if i was a protagonist
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>>577531830
Alters are the antithesis of the original servant. I think LB7 gives the best example: Ereshkigal wishes to cover the underworld with flowers and cultivate a beautiful garden for human souls to rest. She becomes an Alter by forsaking that dream, sacrificing the beauty of her underworld for the sake of making a battleground suited to combatting Ort.

It just so happens that in most cases giving up the thing that matters most to a servant tends to make them pretty edgy.
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>>577532063
kek
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>>577515905
How do I get a 100m tall GF who looks at me like this?
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>>577532117
FAT
COW
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>>577532404
church
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>>577532172
Let me be the author. I will make it different.
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Protea Alter became way too popular
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>>577531835
or just pick the npc BB and before she dies, use her 2nd skill to remove Kiara's buffs
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>>577532119
I liked the part where Protea Alter was about to mess with Guda, and Beni was not sure if she could pull the hit on ORT. Then Guda actually showed up half dead and both of them immediately stopped screwing around.
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Apparently Palter in japanese is written Puta.
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>>577532462
I don't think my church has ceilings that tall...
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>>577531601
just buff purge her after she applies invuln
beebs skill2 can do it
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>>577532172
yeah, that servant was either the king of heroes or a beast candidate
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>>577532436
YES
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Oh brothers...
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>>577532701
You don't have your own Bart? Why are you taking support Bart?
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>>577531797
I think the joke was mostly just to show how far FGO powercreep has come.
Recall in the first Big Kiara fight we have an event where we basically by debuffs to cripple her and ultimately the boss battle we fight is the one where she's been severely nerfed. When Seraph came out that fight was still tough as balls.

The kiara we fight in this story is essentially the fully powered boss kiara from seraph without any of the debuffs from the event. And she's not only doable, she's actually kinda easy. If you have someone with buff removal you can just delete her invul and pierce invul. If you have castoria you can tank her invul-piercing party wipe with it. You can blast off breakbar per turn with star bombs, megacrit and buster star absorb or ST NPs that fully refund. And of course you can still stall her to death with an immortal team.
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>>577522876
I love Babu!
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>>577532119
No, I mean her expressions. Her face always was sneering and cruel looking. So she actually did *look* believable while she was saying all that mean stuff. Her expressions are a lot softer and she's not putting nearly as much effort into being convincing now.
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>>577532701
Sometimes you don't need words to know the first three servants are a sacrifice
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>>577532772
As if bringing my own Bart is better...
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>>577532538
For reference.
プタ = Puta
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>>577532281
Altered aren't "antithesis"
LB7 explains it directly, alters are servant who betrayed whatever value they held the strongest in their normal form
They actively chose to destroy whatever they held most important

Saber alter became a tyrant
Archer alter killed taiga and became nothing but a professional killer
Cu became a king (he hates the idea of being king, he sees it as a merciless thing)
Nitocris crushed her own heart so it could no longer be judged on Anubis scale, she can no longer reach the after life
Beni enma gave up being a child's hero for children, by growing up
Kingprotea gave up her love for humans
Eresh gave up wanting to make the underworld a beautiful place
Jeanne alter true gave up her purity
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>>577532880
is it pronounced like spanish puta or like "computah [comptuer]" puta?
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This is a great and fearsome dragon.
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This guy exist in this story just to chill and do god-know-what with a fucking ship AI
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>>577533029
Thank you
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>>577532948
>Jeanne alter true gave up her purity
So you can only sex Jannu once before she alters?
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>>577532979
Like computah. Spanish is more like Poota, right? Think of the word buta which is pig in japanese, but replace the b with a p.
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>La Puta
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>>577533029
Can she fix my truck?
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>>577532948
>Kingprotea gave up her love for humans
I always assume it was her dream of being human sized
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>>577533080
He had sex with that ship. I don't know how but that's just because I'm not a pirate.
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>>577533029
How terrifying
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I love Summer Xu Fu a bit too much, but I can't be a 3rd wheel
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Behold my final roll of the banner
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>>577533080
>>577533312
I wish I was that ship...
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I am dreading the day Mashu become a yandere...
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>>577533496
grand gae...
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>>577533464
Xu Fu IS a third wheel herself already
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>>577533287
Protea Alter gives up her Infantile Regression. She's able to grow beyond the limit where it kicks in without outside intervention, unlike regular Protea. In both of her story appearances, Palter grows beyond her size limit without Regression kicking in.

That's why their personalities are different. Protea's mind is stuck in an infantilized state, Palter's mental age matches her physically. She's not being overtly edgy, she's just being a teenager.
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>>577533464
Can't you just be happy to have a fembro who loves Consort Yu as much as you do?
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>>577533496
That's a lot of homo paladins
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>>577531996
Use the NPC Speresh and just gigabuff her the entire time.
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>>577533687
I thought infantile regression was more a failsafe built into her by BB, not something that could be discarded any more than Lip's various ridiculous flaws
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>>577533029
How does Melu cope?
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>>577533987
she copes by getting a huge load delivered directly by me, her husband
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>Throw a bunch of multi's onto Ciel, no drop.
>Do a few multi's on the funny vamp and she shows up
And like that, I reject the church and embrace twilightism.
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what happened to this general
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>>577534141
Liz deficiency.
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>>577534084
me
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Be sure to eat your daily babbertrot....
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meluSINNER
https://youtu.be/-migxRgudVo?si=PmGcd9PPzHJBReuR
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>>577533987
Melu is better looking desu
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>>577533937
It wasn't discarded by choice. She was forced to become an Alter by Camazotz. Recall she was the only one of the Underworld Altars stuck with a mind control mask.
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>Karna get a whole new set of wing and lance with his skin
Hero of the deprived my ass, this dude rich as fuck
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>>577532679
I rape this cow
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>>577534263
*empties an entire magazine into it on sight* AHHHHHHHHHH FUCK WHAT IS THAT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH JESUS CHRIST
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>>577534346
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>>577531996
You're supposed to use the support Spesh, she's megabuffed for this fight.
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>Kingprotea get an Alter and said Alter got a swimsuit before Liz got one
Much to think about
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>>577534096
I had the opposite experience….
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>>577534613
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Today, tomorrow, forever
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>>577534572
There's a hundred fucking Lizzes in this game man.
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>>577534572
Bro your Carmilla Rider???
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>>577533658
I wonder if she would accept my pity sex offer
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>>577534935
>cant even build liz themed support list
>have to include bob and lilith
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>>577527914
The soul of a planet creates a physical body based on the dominant lifeform on its surface planet uses that body as a sort of sensory organ to observe and experience the life on its surface. That's an Archetype.

If a planet's consciousness decides to abandon it's celestial form, it will use the Archetype as a vessel. An Archetype possessing the soul of a planet and all of its limitless power at once is called an Ultimate One, or a Type. For example Ort in LB7 was technically called Type: ORT and was the Ultimate One of the Oort Cloud.
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>>577532035
I don't give a shit about references to other games. It's lazy.
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DISGUSTING fight. Took me an hour of reattempts to finally beat it
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>>577535279
Then Type Moon games are not for you
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>>577535279
We can tell you are mentally lazy, yes.
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>>577533029
You like reptiles, don't you, /alter/?
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Few spaces opens.
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OD3 top 3 GOATs and Top 3 Bums
>GOATs
3. Bart (considerable lore glowup from just being the hair pervert. Also nice to see weak servants acknowledging their own weakness and running away)
2. Edison Alter (Swallows his pride to ask Tesla for help. If that's not character development I don't know what is. Too bad they'll go back to the annoying ac dc faggots after this)
1. Hakuno

>Bums
3. Archetype Earth and Koyan (normally final boss tier enemies that get beat in one chapter)
2. Tenochtitlan (betrays Chaldea immediately then comes back at the very end just to turn on the faucet)
1. Kazuradrop (built up to be a secret threat just to be one shot by BB Dubai and was BTFOed so badly that they had to write a whole ass event for her after the fact)

>Secret GOAT
Roland (was never actually defeated by Chaldea after his fight in part 1)
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The forced hakuno is the worst thing of the oc
Be is genuinely useless and is always eating a servant FRONT slot
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>>577535310
DAMN, the new prime species looks like THAT?!
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>>577535569
>EXTRA wank
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>>577534280
Nobody believes this.
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>>577535552
Gross
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>>577535680
No, the new prime species is actually a 0.4 mm crystal waiting to be launched into space
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I do like the contrast between Space Ishtar and Space Eresh being Quasar vs Collapsar
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>rolling for snakes when you can roll for dragons
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>>577535569
Sent with Martha in all
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>>577535921
That's a fruit.
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>The new prime species is a man made kidney stone
What did Nasu mean by this?
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>>577535921
Damn Zeus beefed with THIS?
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>the new prime species
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>>577536107
Should have used the martian image. Then it would almost make sense for once
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>>577536102
Shit diet nearly killed him two years ago, so he had an existentialist crisis and wrote OC3
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>>577536074
me on the right
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>>577536107
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Uh oh melty
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>>577535950
>Martha
Stellar taste.
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>>577535921
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>>577536382
Thanks bro
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>>577536074
me in the middle
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>>577536074
Me on the left
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>>577535552
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>>577535552
Only when they have massive tits.
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I looped.
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>>577535702
Melu still much more popular, bro
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I don't usually do this, but what is she going to do after 3rd turn? I know she is going to pull some shit but what?
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>>577535569
sent Aoko in all.
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>>577536703
How are you playing OC3 if you are so new
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>>577536612
Just because a lot of people do it doesn’t mean it’s right.
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>>577536571
Like these?
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>>577536824
I keep myself clueless so the experience is fresh, but nevermind, I just found out what she do and I do not like it
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>>577536703
Shove you in her snatch.
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>>577536929
Have you played through Seraph? or CCC event, whatever is the right name.
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>>577517702
You meant Biscione right?
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>>577536584
how
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>>577536925
Yes, those are very nice.
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>>577537136
>No jacketless dress for the first ascension
RUINED RUINED RUINED RUINED 0/10
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>Break gauge recovery
FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING DIE
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>>577537303
>Fucking die.
Yeah anon, that's what the game wants from you
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Sessyoin Kiara is a beautiful defenseless maiden
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The only good servant in jp summer is that npc with torpedo tits
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>>577537279
Jackets over swimsuits have been the norm in FGO for years now and I fucking hate it.
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>>577537279
Believe
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So when are we getting the OC3 free quests?
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>>577537554
what is her appeal
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What even is the lore behind summer illya? I dont recall her splitting into many Illyas in the event
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>>577537136
Would have been a solid 9/10 without the retarded jacket and overall, as it is is a 6/10. Lilith, Beni and Puta did it better desu.
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Damn Robin going places
I just remember he was part of the gang too in SERAPH
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>>577537479
she really is
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>>577537632
are you blind, deaf, or stupid?
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>>577537632
Huge tits, are you stupid?
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>>577537630
When OC3 and the summer event become main interludes around February/march next year in prep for OC4.
It's also when you can yoink the other Hakuno
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>>577537630
You did beat OC3, didnt you?
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>>577537632
Shortstack, goofy, cute and in love with (you)
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>>577529638
He hacked the Moon
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>>577537142
NP5 and cd reduction appends and so on
Evade works better there anyway.
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>>577537632
Cute workplace junior
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>>577537632
Dragon taming is an admirable pursuit
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>>577537142
Summer Kiara has partywide evade.
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>>577537632
The sag to end all sags
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>>577537791
I am
>>577537798
every other servant has huge tits
>>577537828
basically nero but brunette?
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Playing this OC3 hit hard because our current humanity realistically could be heading down this path, actually what we are doing now is worse
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>shortstacks
>Nero and Bisc
>both from the Roman/Italian area
mmmmm
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>you should like the deformed big titty midget or you are le stupid!
Why are redditors like this? Petite gals look better FLAT
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>>577537678
Along time ago there was a cunny unlike anyone else, this cunny was perfectly created by the gods to please as many oji-sans as possible, with ass cheeks like an athlete and a chest as flat as a box the perfect loli was born, sometime around 67 Ad a wish was made on the holy grail to create the ultimate cumdump loli and thus Kurt was born, to this day there hasn’t been a more rape friendly body than the Ilya twins, may everyone be blessed by their childlike bodies, cunny bless you. T. Loremaster pedo San.
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>>577538145
STANDING
PAIZURI
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>>577537960
So you’re choosing to be daft, got it.
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For me? It's flatties.
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>>577538145
>you should like the deformed big titty midget or you are le stupid!
This but without the sarcastic faggot accent
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Nasu has a weird height complex. Also he seems to dislike boobs. And he seems to be into vore and diapers. And did you know he was blown away by Man of Steel? Frankly it seems Nasu has pretty garbage taste in general.
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>>577538145
Titcows are not redditcore retardbro
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>>577537960
>basically nero but brunette?
Biscione is much goofier and not as boastful as Nero,
>>577538125
Meds know their stuff
>>577538145
Homosexual take, I bet you grailed Merdusine
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>We are fighting Kiara
Oh lord we are going to grab Andersen and have him deal with her aren't we? I don't even have to guess this one, why else would he hang around despite not being a Moon Cancer?
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>>577538332
Female flatties are better tho
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>>577538145
Nobody is saying you have to like her but don’t sit here twiddling your thumbs pretending you can’t fathom the appeal
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I NEED SUPER "tall" WOMEN RIGHT NOW!
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>>577538452
He was useless and he will stay useless.
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>>577538709
*glomps u*
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>>577538709
Just go play jp summer, bro
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>>577538452
He infodumps the history of OC3's world
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>>577538709
Here you go bro enjoy your five foot eight tall queen!
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>still no adult Hans costume
Why?
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>>577538789
>Perfect proportions
>No visible disabilities
>No retarded bandage gimmick
She would be perfect if she wasn't a giant desu
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>>577538789
Well I guess I'm fucking dead then
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>The only Sakurai Five not in the game is the one with adult body
What do they mean by this?
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Edison? Swallowed his prime to summon THE GOAT.
(You)? Saved by someone summoned by THE GOAT.
You're welcome.
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I didn't think I would come out of this story being such a big protea alter fan. Sasuga nasu
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>>577538991
Literally no one cares about Violet. She's just Medusa.
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Palter is awakening things in me
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>>577537136
>we finally get some italian myth and THIS is what it is
sono triste
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>>577538924
the only guy who understood :/
>>577538813
>>577538789
speedreaders...
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>>577539207
La PUTA bebe
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LOL
LMAO EVEN
0/10 chapter since I don't even remember it
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>>577539073
One of the fundamental truths of FGO is that they're just going to keep re-releasing Sakura in new forms until the end of time and you're going to roll for her every time.
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>>577539052
>wasted in LB5
I'm still mad.
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>>577539223
wdym look at that 3rd ascension and tell me you did not win
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>>577539382
she looks like a generic OL. it's super lame
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>>577539330
>every time.
Sorry BUT that retard Lip is a big SKIP for me, I do like all the other Sakurafaces though.
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>>577535606
>Roland (was never actually defeated by Chaldea after his fight in part 1)
List of things that have killed Roland so far:
>Himself at Roncevaux
>Himself at Traum to perform a conceptual breaking miracle
>A literal cheat Servant
The STRONGEST knight.
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>>577539506
OL is cute though
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>>577539506
i don't know an OL that has those saggers
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>>577539207
At least she didn't go full baby with a diaper. The logistics of that at her size are mortifying
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>>577539223
Crazy how italian history just goes
>Roman Empire
>[DATA LOST]
>WW1
>WW2
>The Tijuana of Europe
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>>577535606
>Can't even appreciate Kazura for trying to be the mastermind manipulator all chapter, only for characters to keep seeing through her or crushing her, but she refuses to die.

She had a strong will to live no matter how petty she was. She just wanted to be the final boss.
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>>577539506
You're not fooling me into believe that Italian office ladies generally look like that. No way. I'm not falling for your pasta perfidy.
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>>577539645
Seriously, though. Assassin Ezio when?
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>>577539207
I wish Palter had bigger tits.
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>>577539223
Your Dante?
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That epilogue was funny I'll give it up.
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>>577539506
Her character image is "Girl who just finished college and is just now joining the workforce"

Not an OL yet
She's not meant to be a very big deal dragon either, she's basically a loser dragon.
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>>577539807
they're gonna genderbend Ezio into a huge smug sexy noble lady and you're gonna like it.
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>>577539807
>Big Vinci never achieved big popularity
>is killed off and replaced by a pedobait version of herself
>pedos immediately latch on and never let go
Big sad.
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>>577540003
Every dragon is a loser dragon
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>>577516592
She totally does.
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Zhang Jiya have to be the potential man of FGO
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>>577539807
I will never forgive this company from taking her away from me. Brought a tear to my eye
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>>577540003
What does OL stand for?
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That wasn't that hard.
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How am I supposed to prevent her from stunning my entire party 10 turns in a row?
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Random take, we should've gotten a KPA or KP version where she's a shortie with an extremely confused personality shift about "why the fuck am I short" being a key focus of the version
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>>577540037
Ezio will be a loli so she can be LoliVinchi friend
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>>577537632
Zako dragon who wants to find another career in life so she isn't stuck being a low level boss fight
So she became a career woman
She has an entire event where she starts from scratch trying to find herself, discovering who she is and who she wants to be. Ultimately she realizes she can be anything and she has unlimited potential, which is some sort of message about something I'm sure. She's a relatable down to earth type heroine rather than a bigshot hero, she's just a nameless dragon who wants to settle down in a nice normal job in Chaldea where she gets job security and safety.
She's best friends with Liz so you already know she's legit

Read Maid Dragon the manga
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>>577540241
office lady
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>>577540203
man I love da vinci. I also like lolivinci but I hate how dumb they made her.
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>Record of 2400
Wait isn't that the 8 C.Star CE?
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>>577540161
No that's Gilgamesh. It has always been Gilgamesh and it will always be Gilgamesh.
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>remove buffs
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>>577540251
Just get lucky anon
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>>577540473
Kama...
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>>577540473
Just bring your Santa Nightingale bro
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>>577540363
Wow I feel dumb, thanks anon you’re a treat.
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Finally
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>>577540473
>break bar
>np charges to full
>remove buffs
>die

And here I am still getting caught off guard by this like the retard I am.
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>>577540591
Doesn't Arc just straight up go "Nuh, uh" on that since she strips buffs with like 500% guarantee, whereas Nightingale only gives 100% protection?
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>>577540739
I keep asking this but does it even matter? You bring two full lineups.
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>>577540043
Vinci's problem is that she was visually too clearly associated with the idea of leonardo davinci, but also not close enough. Like a lot of year 1 servants, she hit that uncanny valley of being extremely unsatisfying as a representation of history but not out there enough to be a standalone character.

Loli vinci adds an extra layer of abstraction, which is why she suddenly became popular. Something that TM clearly realized with the transition to lostbelts is that servants either need to be strictly faithful to some image of history, or so completely out of left field that they sidestep the historical comparison entirely. Between those two extremes is an uncanny valley where the vision of a character is just lame and disappointing.

The lostbelts themselves became a vehicle for that kind of design. Instead of trying to transform every servant into a cute girl or an anime badass, we get giant mammoth Ivan the Terrible, alien cowboy Kululcan, dapper man in a suit Salieri, cyborg butterfly QSH, gigachad Napoleon, etc.

Vinci just represents the leading edge of that shift in design vision that was clearly informed by the successes and failures of Part 1.
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>>577540849
purdy
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>remove buffs
>remove debuffs
>reduce own charm resistance by 50%
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>>577540849
I can't even lie I clapped.
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when arc removed my buffs, she also removed my will to live, and i immediately ended my life
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>>577540890
I mean ya but it still feels bad that I continue to get bamboozled like this
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>>577540251
One of the story supports deletes that effect permanently.
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YOU FUCKING NIGGER
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>>577535569
Sent, BB in ALL.
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>>577540739
My favourite is also "Clears own debuffs" on Break, meaning stun is pointless.
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Oh, did you seriously just break my break bar, bro?
*rapes you*
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>>577541063
You mean you are supposed to use the supports the game gives you? WTF
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>>577540890
Story nodes usually give fantastic bond so I want to use my back 3 slots to farm bond for Class Score requirements and not bring a second meta team as backup when my entire frontline is cockslapped with a forced wipe.
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>>577540315
Her event also had a nice animated CV

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CIxoTR15Ie0&pp
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You know, I was really hoping one of the anniversary 3* Caster buffs was going to be for Babbage.
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>>577541128
Someone called her the Cell of the Sakura 5 and I find it funny how that apparently extends to her being a cockroach
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>>577541019
Joke's on her. I never had that in the first place.
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>>577541192
*dies*
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>>577541235
>trying to bond farm in a boss fight
Well, you deserve everything that happens.
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>Story nodes usually give fantastic bond so I want to use my back 3 slots to farm bond for Class Score requirements and not bring a second meta team as backup when my entire frontline is cockslapped with a forced wipe.
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Outside of
>homo
I can't see any reason not to pick Hakuno since he was always with us.
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>>577541372
Jokes on you, by the power of these 3 command seals I bruteforce your gayass bossfight and maximize my bond gain in the process.
Better luck next time, midboss.
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>>577541480
He's going to fuck all your Extra girls...
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>>577541480
Don't you understand anon, you're supposed to choose female Hakuno and then give her sexual punishment for her crimes against humanity
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Holy shit calm down Hans
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>>577541480
But Hakunon is cute.
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>>577541128
YOU VIL PLAY FAMILY WITH HER
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>>577541480
I would rather not pick these losers at all, capisce?
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>>577541480
I will pick the male one just to have a cute girl on my friend points banner menu
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>>577541480
He wants you to take the girl version so that he can have and break and so that she can actually have fun for once because she got benched.
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>>577541480
Technically Hakunon is better since there are more female-only buffs than male-only, but really, let your heart speak up. Or dick. Whichever you listen to.
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>>577541763
It's a fetish thing for her
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>>577541270
It's fucked up that they still haven't added Zahhak in JP after two years.
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>>577541979
Because no one gives a fuck about him
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>>577541813
a break* whoops.
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>>577536929
Bruh it's Kiara. You should already know what she is going to do because you fought her in SERAPH
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OC4 comes out in 7 month??? Bros this is the first time I've been fully caught up to the story...
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>>577536074
Me in the spotlight
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>>577542172
factual
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I took one try at the final Hakuno fight and gave up for now. Not being able to rely on anti-enforcement is actually giving me problems.
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>>577542434
Do girls really do this
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>>577542465
Anon your ruler???
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Whenever a boss defeats me, I like to think Command Spells are MY break bar, and the effects (full party np charge, no more debuffs, skill cooldowns reduced) are my break bar effects. It keeps me immersed and I like to roleplay my Guda going something like:
>You think you've won? I have prevented the incineration of mankind and the prunning of my timeline! I have faced every pantheon, every eldritch horror, powers that make my existence akin to one of an ant and still came out on top! By my Command Spell...!
>"W-What?! How could this mere human have so much power!"
It feels even more great when the boss in question had been belittling me the entire story. If they're female, I like to fantasize me raping her after I win so I'm putting her in her place.
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>doing kiara fight in ordeal III 16-3
>use beast nero
>kiara has resist damage agains her
>use beast eresh
>kiara is weak
wth... how does this "beast" thing works?
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>>577542465
It's essentially a 3 waves with a party wipe on Hakuno's 2nd break
Bring sure-hit for the 1st and 2nd waves and just eat the wipe and use CS
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>>577542645
Eat? I believe so
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How bad is your roster that you can't make it to the nuke phase of the Hakuno fight with a trio of servants?
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>>577542797
Do you guys really just roll without reading anything about a servant's kit?!?!
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>>577542836
>and use CS
Yeah looks like it will have to be that, cause that second break caught me by surprise.
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>>577542769
Do gudafags really?
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>>577542931
I just like to collect them PNGs...
please explain
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>>577540270
*first ascension
then he will grow into his nearly 40 year old version
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Space Eresh have to be the strongest being in this chapter by a wide margin, they had to use straight BS to "beat" her
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>>577542797
Each Beast has unique class advantage / disadvantage. Draco is strong against all base classes (1.5x same as berserker) but weak to all extra classes. Eresh is strong against Extras, except Avengers, which are her only weakness, and is neutral damage to base classes.
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>>577542931
yes
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>>577541480
I picked a girl because I feel bad for her being stuck in tower while watching us having fun adventure with bro. She deserves love and attention too. I plan to grail both of them to level 100 eventually
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>>577542465
Bring someone with evade, ideally a mystic code as backup. I basically had my Morgan blow them up. By the time they got her, Male Hakuno was alone and on his last legs. Also make sure to either break them simultaneously or have some plan, since Fem Hakuno gets Pierce Invul on top of Anti Enforcement, so you're fucked if she initiates the combo NP somehow. If you break them at the same time, male one initiates the NP and he doesn't get her buffs.
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>>577542797
Beasts aren't a real class, they don't have a set advantage/disadvantage. Each one is unique.
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When you think about it, we killed them both
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>>577543234
>If you break them at the same time, male one initiates the NP and he doesn't get her buffs.
That's actually a really useful tip, thanks. That second break party wipe was hard to deal with.
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>>577542172
Yeah, but you've got Olga Quest 3 before that which unlocks Foreigner Class Score. Then the OC4 set up event during Chaldeas Boys Day next year around feb.
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>>577538754
I KNEW IT
He just HAPPENED to know Kiara's weakness AND the exact tool needed to poke her in said weakness. So predictable
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Mash is my next 120 so the further away OC4 is, the better...because I'm flat fucking broke on embers.
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>>577543148
where do you get this info? should I read all their story to figure it out or is it displayed somewhere?
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>>577541480
I picked Hakunon BECAUSE Hakuno had the whole chapter. Might as well see the other one. Gonna grab him once he drops in a few months.
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>>577543658
I will be waiting for your reply in like 30 minutes or so.
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>>577542931
yeah and I haven't even used most of the servants I've rolled
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>>577543658
lol no
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>>577543480
NTA but I'll mention if you're a shitter like me borrowing someone's Summer Melusine can be really fucking helpful. You will have to swap her to your backline first turn and obviously plan your party around that but she can dumpster them.
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>>577543658
Bro thinks he's smart...
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>>577543658
>He just HAPPENED to know Kiara's weakness
Hmmmmmmmmmm I wonder why...
Also he was wrong you fucktard
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>>577541480
You can pick both either way, but you have to wait a month or two for the second one.
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>>577543879
>>577543951
>>577544089
It's going to backfire isn't it?
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How many Kiara are we pulling
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>>577542769
Isn't this a pasta? Or am I just losing it?
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>>577544194
None for me, thanks
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>>577543132
What about spooky ghost?
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I love tall women so fucking much bros.
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>>577544362
Anon she's only 5'8 I tower over her.
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I like how they always refer to Blackbeard as an undying piece of shit like Herc except they can't even give him a good Guts skill to back it up
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>>577544362
fake pic, women dont eat
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>>577544362
I prefer petite women.
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>>577544434
wow i didn't know Altera was so tall!
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>>577543793
You basically gotta figure it out by the arrows you get before a node. Draco has arrow up only? Means she's got an advantage over Casters. Merlina has arrow down? No real advantage. Eresh has no arrow? She's got no advantage or disadvantage. A zerker? Advantage in damage, disadvantage in defence.
Other-wise most people just check the wiki.
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>>577539223
Che minchia ti aspettavi? 90% of our myths is just Greek stuff with a different name, even when we go back to the Etruscans
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>>577544530
Imaginary scramble was so good anons. I really really liked it.
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We need more chubby servants.
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>>577544481
>except they can't even give him a good Guts skill to back it up
Eternal guts is pretty decent
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>>577544652
>Merlin no real advantage
Perhaps I should've said she has a disadvantage. Which yeah, she does.
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>>577544434
NTA but I don't pay any attention to the official heights. I just use my headcanon numbers.
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>>577544194
Already np6
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extremely tall woman erotic
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>>577544686
Yeah, I loved it.
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>>577544686
Now that we are confirmed to never get Foreigner OC, I have come to appreciate Imaginary Scramble a lot more
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>>577544976
She can't even hoop.
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you promised me kiara rape up
where is it
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>>577543737
>Mash is my next 120
... why
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Freakishly unnaturally tall female sex
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>>577545285
What an erotic giantess
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Wake me up when it's December anons. I cannot handle living in poverty I'm losing my mind
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>>577545189
Roland is plapping her, give them some time
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>>577545374
who the fuck is roland
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>>577543658
Your posting style is extremely annoying, and worse yet, you've been wrong about literally everything you post about. What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>577545189
tonight
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>>577544857
More Kiaras never hurt
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>>577545459
Roland mama
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>>577544652
do pretenders also have different advantages between them? any other class which does this?
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>>577545374
Roland, a figure known for his ability to handle women
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Don't worry bros and leave me behind, i'll deal with the huge and insanely tall woman.
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>>577542645
Last time I visited Japan there was this extremely drink lesbian alone at a maid cafe that knew all the waitresses by name and kept grabbing them and trying to kiss them.
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>>577545285
>172 cm
>5'8 rounded up
>implying tall
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>>577545365
Hey same. If I don't get this real job I'll probably just accept that I failed at life from the start and go insane.
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I been meaning to ask, have story bossfight gotten easier in your opinion? Or have our Servants and support become much stronger?
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>>577545665
I assume 3D lesbians pretty much have to take anything they can get
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>>577545665
Xu-Fu...
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>>577545285
This was probably the first giveaway that nasu was bullied by bigger, older sisters growing up (but only Japanese big).
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>>577545225
Because Mash is always doing her best for (You)
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Remember the Tamamos? Yeah me neither, and to think they used to be comparable to Sakura Five
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>>577545665
Was she a gaijin?
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>>577545654
His canon wife died of grief after hearing he died, he'll be fine
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>>577545225
Because she's cute
Because I like shield that turns into gun
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>>577544668
sure, but we still have angitia, veiovis and bona dea and more. even if we go back to etruscans their religion wasn't just "hey, fuck it, we'll just reflavor Greek shit."

yeah, i know "japanese game" but come on. they barely tried
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>managed to get both BB Dubai and Kingprotea from unplanned rolls after finishing rolling for Ciel
I'm so fucking happy.

KP has been in my Destinys for ages.
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Mashu will only get better, you need to invest in her now
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>>577545610
You can click Class Details on the party screen to get majority of advantage/disadvantage list for all the classes apart from Beast. Hence the in game arrow method or wiki check is what most people do for them. Here's the list.
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>>577537828
>in love with (you)
that just means she's on Trashu's cockblocking list...
ironically enough, the only servants our glorious Shielder doesn't stop are the actual rapists like Tamamo or Lambda
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>>577546112
I'll invest in Extremely tall woman coin, Mash can watch while i battle Medusa.
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>>577546236
Mash couldn't handle her. She's simply too tall
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>>577546236
Considering Mash wears stilts into battle, I think she might stand a little taller than Midusa.
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>You will help me develop that planet right?
This sound strangely erotic
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>>577546080
I know it's dumb to say this but I forgot just how big she is in battle.
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>>577545610
Pretenders are a real class, oddly enough, despite their name. They have consistent rules and advantage/disadvantage. They specialize against the knight classes (saber, archer, lancer) and against Alter Egos, but are weak against the cavalry classes (rider, caster, assassin) as well as Foreigners.
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>>577545948
Nope, native local. There were a surprising number of locals shit face drunk in public in the middle of the day basically everywhere we went.
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>>577546141
Don't forget the /alter/ version
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>>577547015
>lipfag weak in both directions
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>>577547174
Sasuga Lipper
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>>577546236
Watching won't be a problem.
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>>577546401
>>577546338
Mash would never reach the height of this abnormally tall woman.
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Mash is 158cm tall.
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>>577546970
It's really crazy for all of Japan's honorable society where you aren't allowed to stick out at all and have to show the utmost respect to everybody at all times and never commit a social faux pas, they really are seemingly very accepting and approve of just getting fucking blitzed in public at any time of the day.
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>>577547273
What a midge
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>>577545739
There's been very clear power creep both in the skillsets of newer servants as well as with new modes of progression like Class Score, Appends, 120 all adding up.
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Would Guda get drunk in public with a tie wrapped around his head?
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>>577547504
no one has done that since the showa era
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Why would god create this freak of nature? it's beyond my comprehension.
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>>577547015
I see Lizfag is the strongest class.
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>>577545739
We've just had like three threads in a row of people shitting their pants about the boss fights in this last batch of chapters.
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>>577546072
Biscione is the most famous of original Italian creatures, she's in heraldry and in the Alfa-Romeo symbol and she still got flack for being a literal unknown myth.
For the Etruscans I'd like a genderbend Veltha, because the Romans could't conceive a male name that ends with -a
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>>577547668
That's old /alter/ meta, Lizfags are an endangered species these days since most of them left for other gachas years ago, fairweather players that they are.
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>>577547668
Coomlord is basically ruler and Schizo is beast. Bow to your Coomlord Schizo gods
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>>577547837
>d Schizo is beast.
Shielder, anon. Beast never shows up on any class chart for FGO because they have no consistent rules.
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>>577547015
>prillyafriend resists tourists

Soul
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>>577547820
spare no sympathy for the wandering lizfags. they ain't loyal
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>>>>>>>>
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>>577547837
>ruler beast strongest
Hold on. That's just Olga.
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>>577548164
THE CUTEST!
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Man i'm struggling on the OC3 boss. I consitently get to past the guts but the 600k life after that is just bit too much of a wall for for what is 1-2 servants left and they just get ground up with the card lock rng being the most horredeus possible .
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>>577548125
Thank you Mooncancer.
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>>577548223
Just throw a turtle at it
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Tenoch think Guda is head over heel for her for some reasons and started fuming when he didn't show up with gift for her
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>>577548419
my guda is head over heels for her but he's also a bit retarded. please understand
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>>577548223
Anon your ruler...
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>>577548419
Hans bodied that stuck up bint
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>>577548419
Did you miss the part where (you) pretend to ignore the wedding registration she gives (you)?
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>>577548419
City's a Latina to her core.
She's pissed you didn't accept her Shotgun wedding proposal.
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>>577548793
No baby, no wedding.
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>There is legitimately, unironically, a force on the Moon that discourage any sentient species from exploring beyond it
>This is also why it is called "Moon Cancer"
LMAO there's no way this is real
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>>577515276
This OP made me roll for her and I went to pity...
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>>577548923
Ancient Aztec ritual insists you need to get her pregnant on the wedding night, Guda.
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>>577548793
Shan't get married to somebody who ditches me for another city first chance she got.
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>>577549050
Can't have a shotgun wedding without a pregnancy.
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Call me ignorant but since when did she start calling us this
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>>577548419
She just got jealous I was flirting with Xu Xu the whole time
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Someone told me I get 1000 sq if I finish the story is that accounted for in Mash’s quest list or is it something different?
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>>577549085
She tried to secure land rights to spend her honeymoon there with (You) thoughbeit
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>THIS was what Tenoch betrayed us for
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>>577549183
Soon as you summon her. She starts calling you her priest which that translates to.
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>>577549208
It's for completing OC4 iirc
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>>577549183
look at those ribs. fuck hot
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>>577548359
sex with martha before marriage
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>>577549468
I have the same ribs and I am a man, women don't find them hot
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>>577548793
"Shotgun" wedding is a literal descriptor, Anon.
Dude bangs a girl before marriage, and she's pregnant, so the father brings a shotgun and threatens to shoot the dude unless he marries her and promises to take care of her and the kid for the rest of his life. The father is pointing that shotgun at the dude through the whole wedding to make sure nobody backs out. Because retarded American Christian interpretation.

Here, there was no sex, and no pregnancy, and no Tez holding a gun to your face to threaten you (though he'll miss so it's not a real threat lmao). So this is, at best, a Vegas wedding proposal.
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Will we ever face a threat large enough to warrant calling the whole Servantverse gang over? Each of them is a whole fucking cosmic event of their own
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I headcanon that Aesc (forma de rain witch) secretly has bigger, plumper breasts under her robes than any of her other forms. Thoughts and opinions?
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>>577549596
women are gay, obvs
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>>577549596
>women don't find them hot
Skill issue. They do if you're Christian Bale.
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I felt like Tenoch understand every of her brother advice the wrong way
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>>577549678
Patrician tastes anon
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>>577549506
Also during and after
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>>577549460
Isn’t OC3 right now or am I a retarded Newfag?
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>>577548223
NPC Speresh can do it as long as you're consistently buffing the hell out of her and always getting AED on breakbars/NPs. I mean it'll still be hard but this works.
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>>577549678
She is a CHILD
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>>577549613
Types or some Servantverse primordial being
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What did she mean by this
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I like her. I relate to her.
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>>577549902
tlaoc built some new skyscrapers, clearly
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>>577548419
When she first confronts you in Old Dubai she gives you a marriage certificate to sign
Guda ignores it and says its nothing without even acknowledging it.
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>>577549958
You're an ugly shota too?
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>>577549902
Fat cat desires more fat allies.
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>>577549869
Yeah, OC4 isn't out yet
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>>577549958
Best swimsuit in this chapter, bar none
>B-But
BEST
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>>577549902
Russian babushka wants the skinny girl to have some more meat on her bones. Nothing new.
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>>577549958
>got ciel but not xu flu
shit's fucked up
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>>577549678
Big boobs for best girl
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>>577550001
No, but just like her, I also have Gu-sama living rent-free in my head. Xu Fu is the most relatable servant in the game.
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>>577549678
titcow aesc is kino
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>>577549902
>Come to me, my true body.
>Nice building, let's fuse!
>This is the decisive battle city of summer! >Armored Tenochtitlan!
>Now we're sister cities, yes?
Going by her NP line, I think she's stealing buildings?
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>>577550119
well the rate up is still up
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>Being my Master...means you're my priest.
>There are many duties a priest must fulfill: they must clean the alter, offer daily tribute, deepen their understanding of the gods, spread the word of the gods, and spend their entire lives in the temple.
>I don't have to repeat that the last rule is the most important one, right?

How do we save Fujimaru from crazy controlling city sluts?
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>>577550061
If you remove Eresh, the cat, Ciel, City, BB and Ecchan then yeah she wins
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>>577549678
I headcanon that she's chubby under her robe
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>>577550203
we don’t
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>>577550187
i know but i can't justify spending more SQ right now
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>>577550218
Jinako is right there fatvro
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>>577550203
Told her big bro that she is up to no good
I am pretty sure Tezca is the only person who can told her around
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>>577549678
I headcanon that all female servants that have big breasts have even bigger breasts actually.
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>>577550203
Have Tez shoot her in the head.
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>>577550395
I imagine it's pretty easy to find art that lines up with this line of thinking
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>>577550395
Are you me?
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>>577550432
That will only make her stronger
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>>577549958
Maaaaaaaaaaasta saaaaaaaaaaaaan
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>>577550286
you don't like her, I see
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>>577550340
I said chubby as in actually chubby, not Jinako sized
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>>577550535
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You know, this OC is quite interesting to me because it's a "What-If" of the future. Remember what Zelretch said about how humanity need to leave it to the next species to have a chance against ORT? Yeah this OC is about what if humanity keep going despite hitting their limits
So pretty much, what happened in Notes turned out to be the better route for humanity
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>>577550728
>the timeline that didn't get pruned was the better route for humanity
Wow, who would've thought?
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>>577550728
I don't remember the exact words, but I assumed it was more of a "leave it to someone from the future" as more of a way of going full circle with ORT just being Lavos
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What the fuck, I lost to Gawain in Camelot even with a Moon Cancer support. I looked it up, it's the second fight, and you were supposed to win it because he's not as buff as the first fight. I got unlucky, he targeted her and he got crits, deleting her. I used command codes to come back which is cringe. But now I'm wondering if I can even do shit about the rest of the story.
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>>577550858
Well, considering Nasu wrote it as a sort of "doomed timeline" for humanity, it actually turned out to be the more rational course for humanity. After all they actually managed to amass enough power to kill Types, dunno about ORT though
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>>577550986
HAHAHAHAHA
I got fucking filtered by Gawain too back in the day I hate that asshole
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Stupid faggot little cocksucker.
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>>577551313
It's pronounced "Illya"
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>>577550479
Indeed. Like all of the fanart is like that for every series ever.
>>577550480
Yes.
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>>577550917
Just check, the quote wasn't Zelretch, but its exact wording is that no current life on earth could beat it, and humanity is better off leaving it in the hand of the next prime species that come after our extinction
So yeah, our extinction is the more beneficial path for Earth
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>>577551198
Honestly I don't care about the AP, I only used the command spells because I was using tea pots and I was worried about wasting those since I have 2 left or something. After he killed my moon cancer I just stalled for a fuckton of turns but I didn't have damage so I had to reset. I "beat" him though. He's cheating with his gift, I'm cheating with my command spells.
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>>577551313
Shirou was a stronger man than me I'll tell you that much
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>>577549958
>managed to get literally everyone this summer, including two of the reran servants that I didn't already have, but somehow not a single Summer Xu Fu showed up
alright then, keep your secrets
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>>577552312
You need to be a LBGT ally to get Xu-Fu.
Jerk off to more chinese lesbian porn as a catalyst.
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>>577552312
I was going to say it's the same for me except I didn't get Tenoch...but I JUST rolled her right before I reply to you so yeah
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I got an NP11 Xu-Fu so I've been masturbating to her more often now.
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>>577552903
>her
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>>577552903
Masturbating to little boys is weird
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Xu-fu just has the most adorable voice. How can you hate her
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>>577553151
Sex with Reines while Waver watches
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I am scared of the possibility of Space Shirou
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>>577553151
I love her and want to have lots of casual sex with her!
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>>577553263
Sex with Reines, if you know what I mean
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>>577551313
Tough case even for emiya shirou, hero of justice
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Xu fu is man
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>>577553151
MAAAASTAAAAAHHH-KUUUUUUUN
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>>577553341
>her



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