Rogneda Supremacy Edition>What is Sword of Convallaria?Sword of Convallaria is part Gacha, part full-length SRPG in the vein of FFT and Tactics Ogre, with very light rogue elements. Originally released in the country of Taiwan, also has a separate CN version, a JP version, and a Global version.>FAQhttps://rentry.org/socnewbie>Helpful links and resourceshttps://rentry.co/oiiitiuohttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1X426ozb4RIFXzuWa_npt_jUoUd6Pp8FSv6ilNGNVIIE/edit?tab=t.0>Current EventsTower of AdversityHunt on the Frozen PlainsRaining Secret Fates!Saga of Ice and BloodSnow-Brushed MemoriesA Nostalgic BondVoyage Recharted>Current and Upcoming BannersBanner: Rogneda (August 14th)Fate's Favor (July 24th) - Select Any 2 Characters, Guaranteed one at 90 pulls>GuildsSorceress HatTouch Vlder TailApply to a guild, then reply to the OP or recruiter ITT with the last 4 digits of your UID and mention the guild you are applying to.
so did everyone here pull for Rogneda?
>needs 5* for artfug I did not consider that
Bring out your Rogs!
>>577567808I can'tRange banned from file uploads
Previous thread: >>576744798
If I pull Alexei early then I may pull up to 50 for that smug Ulya
>>577568787Where is he now...?
>*Smooch*
Got her on the discounted 8 pull. I'll take it.. the real question is do I get baited into getting her weapon
>>577522372and that's 3 preempts with Anna aura but yeah she does die to some of those enemies that don't care and continue to attack at range
>>577567808Can't pass up a rare chance to use Cup engravings
>>577571550YeahShe is useless without it
>>577571550Nah, Focus Wand or Sky Heritage works perfectly fine too.
Armband or Hourglass for Rogsneeda?
>>577572854I gave her Hourglass
>>577567808
>>577572854Hourglass.
>>577567808I'd post but I'm raped and gaped when it comes to medals so she's not R13
Wth am I supposed to energy dump on now
>>577575448Fools journey
>>577575448Stars. Always stars.
Are there any other watchers coming besides Arman? I'm thinking of using watcher shards to speed up Rogneda's long road to 5*, she really wants it.
>>577577518No more watchers until Diona, Arman is not a Watcher.
>>577577942Oh wow, okay. I'm all kinds of wrong, and I thought Diona was a breaker.
Making gestures at Rogneda
>900 endurance and 4 keys about to expireuhhh help
>>577583889>4 keys about to expirelol>900 endurancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgmFDjA8lxU
Happy 5-star Heshan Day! (Just in time for Rogneda)
>>577575448Mostly stars. I’ve been doing some expert fools journey and old standard events too. The hard trials for luccia and Elaman content also require endurance.
>>577584278Only good Vlder is a dead Vlder.
>>577578370Oh oops mixed that up, no more watchers at all.
>>577584772Guess the collab's all but guaranteed to have one (again). I pulled the trigger, but turns out I only had enough to bring her to 2*, which is a worthless star but at least it's a teeny bit closer to 5*.
who we pullin for?
>>577585076What the heck is T Sam?
Giraffe game
>>577585383Third Samantha.
>>577587142Fvark, Samantha's game...
Fuck me dude do I really have to play Snow UD four times before I unlock the endless mode?
>>577589316If you can't even do that what chance do you have at Endless?
>>577589316It unlocks after clearing Hard once iirc, you can always hit the info button for all the deets
>>577590205I can do it I just think this mode is super boring and I don't want to do it. I gotta actually start the story too.>>577591253I'm retarded.
>>577585076I was thinking about giving Ivan a few tenners since apparently his banner comes with a pull milestone thing, but if I actually get him I don't think I can guarantee Agata, the Collab, and Col. Not to mention Papal is right after too and it seems to be full of Hags (my weakness). Might just hard save until said banners to build up a buffer for unlucky streaks. Not like I'm short on people lining up for a shard mine slot.
>>577587142I wonder if she'll get something from both of her previous versions.
>>577594551>I just think this mode is super boring and I don't want to do itThen how do you think you'll fare when it's endless, you fucking yoghurt
I miss double shards...
>>577598730There's always next year.
>3rd Samantha unit before SP GloriaPapalwank
We'll get SP Garcia before Gloria.
How hard is this ToA?
>>577608994I only did level 5 to get starcores but it's literally unfailableI got like 60000 points from the lower floor alone
>>577609116>literally unfailableit has long been my dream to Guzman clear a TOA tysm anon
>>577609793I didn't design it but ok
Sex with Acambe I miss him and the warm sands of Elaman...
>Don't like Anna initially>Pull her by throwing 8 rolls >End up liking her>Like Rogneda's kicking gimmick>Ok in the story>Try her out in trial>Feel absolutely nothingWhat the hell is this 180 degree turn? Why do I want Ulya more?
>>577585076Alexei and AgataI would like Ivan but the Papal women are too sexo and I need to save as much as possible for them
Is Finalter's chinese name equally on the nose or did they just do an engrish and it literally did not get changed
>Rog got damagemogged by AnnaRogbros...it's over.
Next, we see if SP Alexei lives up to the ridiculous hype.
>>577612732He's invincible for 3 turns. Impossible for him to be bad.
>>577585076SP Alexei, Ulya, Sena, SP AgataEverything else is under questions besides Constantine, SP Leonide and Vipera.
How good is Rogneda? Is it worth risking Sp Alexei for her or not? I have like 5 pulls left and am hitting hard pity after Anna.
>>577613663A bit worse than Anna. Still a top 10 DPS but not worth losing sleep over. If you have no pulls then you 100% should skip her for SP Alexei.
>>577613663She's fun and very good right now especially if you like the more dynamic risky aggressive playstyle but feels like Estra+ in some ways that are tellingNOT worth risking Sp Alexei for
>>577613663>Is it worth risking Sp Alexei for herHe's a gay retard so yeah
>>577612732only have 13k luxite so i gotta skip
Tips for Tower of Adversity upper floors if I have no summoners except Yeganeh?
>>577613663SP Alexei is overrated. He's weak as fuck and you have to run a specific passive to technically be able to unlimited resolve more than once per battle. They also ruined how he looks and he just looks like a homeless chud now.
>>577618047use the training dummy tactical skill and units that generate a lot of TP
>>577621584Magnus looks like the type to generate a lot of TP
>>577585076I have no idea any more. Hard pitying Rogneda threw me for a loop. I can get Alexei next, but everything else will be a roll of the dice.
>>577585076SP Alexei is getting compared to Camelot so thats a yes. Ulya would have to stay at 1* but I like getting all supports so probably. Ivan depends how much you need his sword for him to be good. Finn and Sena are likely a recharge month for lux and shard space relief. SP Agata auto yes even if she is a jobber. Arman again depends how much you need the spear to be worth the investment. Porewit no clue.
>>577613663Objectively speaking, Alexei is a much stronger overall unit but chasing meta in this game is a losing battle so go with your heart
>>577629842>Ivan depends how much you need his sword for him to be good[Winter’s Embrace 1 2 3 ]>When making ice tiles gain (8,12,16%) Atk>When making none ice tiles gain (8,12,16%) When a [Trigger] is triggered, restore 1 energy.Starting at 4 stars - if it's an ally Triggers a [Trigger] restores an additional 1 energy. DmgLutfi sig:>10% atk and 30% crit dmgThey're basically the same damage-wise. Ivan sig just lets you remove his NRG passive to run the one that lets him trigger his passive 4 times per turn. Its nice but not a must-have. Arman spear is like 30% more damage over f2p options because spears are terrible, but he's mostly a support so you only need his sig if you really like him and want to make him your main dps.
No one can convince me to roll on Viking Santa Claus Arman.
>>577632597>Viking Santa ClausHow can you NOT roll?
Is next weapon bundle Alexei, Rog and Ulya? Gonna save all my shards if that's the case.
>Suikoden is giving out 160 limited pulls, 2 max dupe SSRs, and a dupe of your choosing for any SSR for their first story event>we only got 70 standard pulls and 1 copy of an old shit 5* for our anniversarywtf bros....
>>577632597Rolling because SEX
I wonder how SP Leonide looks like
>>577621584I tried this and scored a grand total of about 3400 after discounting my entire party dying like bitches.But I made up for it on the lower floor and got 34k there.I'm gonna get fucked hard on floors 6/7
>>577639570I'm not sure if you can cleanse the healing immunity debuff you receive for standing on a cannon tile. Maybe try a full party of tanks/healers/cleansers and try to outheal incoming damage.
>>577640007Doesn't seem to work. The debuff doesn't dispel and the character auto-dies at 3 stacks anyway.
>>577638630You forgot the part where they want you to pull 7 or more copies of a character at 0.5% rates.And if you think shard farming taking 100 days in SoC is bad, it takes more than a full YEAR to 5 star one character in that game (and you only get 2 slots in the shard mines instead of 3).
>Have to farm Cold Wind to grind levels for EndlessThe chinks were right this is balls.
Bitch
>rog slugs a beetle charger way out of her range>boss rico SPECIAL FINISHER slugs it right back, kills both the bug and rogsubtitle checks out
>>577642278If some shop rewards refreshed every week during this arc I would probably enjoy that grind.
>>577649067
>>577652062Beryl killer
>>577650203Boss is just establishing the pecking order and hazing the new girl at Elysium
>>577652062God she's so smug.
>>577652062This would work much better if she herself didn't burst into treats like 6 times throughout the 45 minutes it takes to get through this story arc
>>577638630If its giving out that much it leads me to believe that the gacha is a complete travesty like fgo But I am a pessimist
>It's another Agata ToAAwooo~
I like this ToA's meant to shill Kianshir, but Acambe out classes him.
>>577675813>shill a character>for an event that last a few weeks>months after said shilled character's banner is over
Does it matter when you use the crystals to rank up a characters star rating thing? Like should I only use them for the upgrade to 5*?
>>577684419Use them whenever you want
Why does Ivan have ice god powers?
How do I stop the ToA wasp nigga from one-shotting one of my lovely ladies every few turns?
>>577686041Have higher stats.
>>577686041Extend your neck out of harm's way.
>>577684419better than average uses are when there is a star up rebate event giving you more shards in return like there was with anna, and when you want to stop a character at 3* and you are near 58/60 and do not want to have 1 leftover because they gain shards in 3s
>>577686040He licked the giant ice stone with the soul of the inter-dimensional space orc in it.
>>577686041Turns out you can either pick up an item in the stage that allows you to summon a bug and the mother fucker will attack that with his wasp sting or you can use the tactical dummy guard and he will target that if it's the lowest physical defense when he uses the ability.
>He skipped
>>577692182Can't even imagine skipping the Queen of the Unclean.
It's nice that Ayishah is actually good finally. She's the best damn babysitter SP Sam has ever seen.
what does sp stand for?
>>577695305Chink phrase for alt
>>577695305Super-powered
>>577685282I smile every tiem.Just used my 5* Garcia on Hunting Grounds, she always gets to stretch legs and blade when UD comes around.
New to the game need guidance
>>577699671>CiriYa lyin bastard
>>577675813Chadcambe is the KING of Tower. Kianshirchuds can't hang.
>>577699671anon did you roll for dupes..
>>577699671>new to game>rolling dupesAnon...
Honestly?Thinkin' about Nydia's Nydias
If he's new to the game then pulling dupes is the least of his worriesIt means he bought an account
>Stage 5 ToA already cancerIt's over. Need walkthroughs ASAP.
>>577699671>Already has ripped spandex RogI'm jealous...
>>577686041
>>577704346For me Yserinde's items trigger something
>>577585076I skipped anna and went for rogneda. im not much of a meta fag and alexei's design doesnt interest me very much, so i might drop a few 10 pulls on him and call it. arman looks really cool and is a pretty rare archetype for gachas so i'll definitely be going to hard pity for him. ivan and agata look cool too, if i can afford them.
>>577712860strongest argument for 5*20%atk and 8blood probably means another turn of rogging aint bad eithersay skip month can get her to 4* then it's still a long climbfrost sigh for double shard week...
Not gonna lie, Rogsneeda putting in crazy work considering she's 1* and only R12 with zero castalias invested.I'm happy she spooked me even though I was planning to skip.
>>577728462What did you score on that lower floor?
>>57772900681270. Lost like 3.5k coz Falin and Layla died.
still bummed out that I missed the dungeon meshi collab and will never have that qt falin
>>577729407She's a filthy ghost apologist
>>577729407She'll rerun when we collab with Meshi season 2 next year.
I barely got to stage 9 in Endless and I'm a day 1 player oldfag How the FUCK are you meant to get to stage 14?
>>577731743probably by grinding previous modes until hunting level reaches whatever it has for a cap
>>577729115I'm just hoping to get 50k+ at floor 7. I can't get any score above 3k on the top floor because I have no summoners. But I was 55k on floor 6 lower and can do better but was happy with that. I'd get 2/3 rewards if I can get 50k on the lower for 7.
>>577733053Something I noticed is I accidentally had the dummy still equipped from the upper floor and you can use it during the mark turns to stop the bug from instant killing someone. He only does it twice during the fight so 2 dummies should be able to handle it.Also Rogneda can get some insane dmg on the bug after you break its armor if you can get it positioned near the cliff. With SP Inanna and a meat she got 6 attacks and 9 cliff knocks in a turn (45% hp dmg just from cliff drops).I'm hoping 7 isn't too much harder coz my top half is also horrendous.
>>577733815I saw a vid of someone using Rogneda and also Selina to repeatedly knock the bug into the chasm. Selina can do it three times with the bottom swordmark option. Well over 100k score for that.That's what I'll likely try.
>>577734069But you skipped SelinaEveryone skipped SelinaSelina was a skip...
>>577736383>they told me she was a glorified epic>a luxury unit>a skippable bump on the way to ShahnazThey lied to us all.
they laughed at me for pulling Kianshirwho's laughing now?
>>577741741Kianshirbros...we...won...
>>577741741>Kian ‘The Hankeyman’ Shir If I had him I might get a better score than 3k on the upper floor.
lol
>>577741741We didn't listen..
>>577744849This was a great stage, good times
>>577741741me, I'm laughing now for having gotten him in the discounted 8 and layering that with laughing at you uninterruptedly ever since you pulled his hanky on purposeI'm also laughing at this scene >>577744849 from her chapter in fool's journey was it
The Luccian Warriors at the start of endless are so weak, oh wonder they're losing to the bugs.
Brickneda good at 3*?i'll probably just only use her in ToA
Doing Luccian content and I've come to learn that the true mvp is Yennefer's clone. Being able to CC 4+ enemies every turn that have massive damage and range plus multiple turns of resolve is a godsend. What other characters have good AoE CC that I have been sleeping on?
>>577753578she becomes a non-brick at 3* and taking her to 5* beyond that lets her stay in comfy lion turn for more turns and is like 40% extra damage in totaltaking her to 3* and stopping is probably optimal because you will never use her past this ToA once you get Alexei and Ivan
>>577755396Ayisha's is a small AOE but instantAfra, but I think she needs them to become injured so not if enemies are too chunky?
>>577755396Yen and Sam is what i use in Luccia too. Got Cred to 5* too so now my Sam is even better
If you had them at one star, who would you star up first:>Lukamar>Lutfi>Credenza
>>577759490Credenza wants 5 and Lutfi 4 so personally, being impatient, I'd start Lukamar but if you don't have an Elaman team then it's the other 2 that gain a more unique use from star up
garcia poster, you know you won't get another chance to redeem yourself, show us what this does
What tactical spells and pre combat skills are people using in the Hunt?
I couldn't post this before because I was IP Range blocked (despite being in the United States midwest lol?). Now that I'm visiting somewhere different on the weekend I can post it.I actually got Rogeda on the discounted ten pull! Only had 18 universal pity, 72 banner pity, so was not expecting it. A welcome surprise for sure, although I've gotten so many new units these last few days that I have completely run out of all my leveling up material. Maybe she can help me get past the Guard Trials because I've been completely stone-walled after 2nd one. I feel like I'm 100% going to pay for all this good fortune at some point, maybe when I aim for Ulya.
>>577765357the pre combat one that makes you deal 30% extra damage to ward units, and for tactics i use teleport and Act Again
>>577765556>3.12%Jesus...I thought I was lucky.
>>577759490Lukamar gets Vuln II on attack at 2* so I'd consider that as a start. Lutfi gets 1 turn planning cooldown reduction at 3*. It really does depend on who fits best with what you already have.If it was me in a vacuum I'd do Lukamar since she's quite powerful at 5* even without Elamans while Lutfi is just a staller aids niche and Cred wants 5* and/or her sig to be powerful. Also Finata maybe (?) has cooldown reduction too lowering Creds value.
I want to fondle Acambe's acambes
>>577770556Acambe is made for anal
>>577755396Yen's illusion was essential for keeping those big armored frostbugs locked down in Guard Trials, yeah. I feel like her kit is gonna keep her relevant forever.
>this is a 10/10 in Luccialand
>>577765556I too am range banned in the midwest on my phone. But I can stink up this thread on my home internet. As God intended.
Oh neat, I was buying Hunting Grounds passives, and I just realized that the ones that enhance specific factions give increased HP to EVERYONE, not just their faction, and presumably they stack?
>>577779147A 10/10 anywhere, really.
>>577779147Furries are cringe but at least they are contained to one arc
>>577781458I just understood why I always found this image gross. It's the fur on her armbands and boots. Makes it look like the tail's also an accesso oh wait she's not transformed so it is an accessory ugh
Can someone explain SP characters? I saw somewhere suggesting to pick base Inanna from the legendary selector for SP inanna but how does the og interact with the SP?
>>577782231Yeah there are no others that have any animal feature without fully transformingNot one
>>577783291when the SP version reaches 3 stars they can inherit one skill from the old version of the charactersome like SP Inanna get really good passives, others like SP Alexei get pretty shitty skills
Does Ivan not transform? Is he an unclean peasant?
>>577784053Yes
>>577784519Why is he the king then?
Beryl sisters which ascension if ether do you use?
Ack you can't restore in endless
>>577784956He's not, he's the Emperor.Because he practices what he preaches, an unclean can prove themselves and raise their station in life through their deeds rather than their blood. He's very fair, it's only right he get to be in charge.
>>577789397That's why you gotta grind that hunting level
>>577789397That's a bloody outrage, it isFlagrant false advertising
>>577789397That's why the chinks made images showing which units can solo. You gotta really stretch that roster if you wanna go all the way to 27.
Already have my main 4 but out of parsifal, agata, and nungal who would be the best 5th slot
>>577792703Agata, try to get her 2nd unique ascension skill, the one that enhances Permafrost Ground and Feast
>>577792921Sorry meant sp nungal, still stands?
>>57779171227 is a tall task. I could maybe do 20 if I really dug deep and planned it all out. The Tree is actually going to matter then which is nice.
>>577793108Yeah, unless the rest of your main team has OG Inanna and SP Maitha. Agata'll help out more in Luccian content
>>577793113Yeah, I'm not even touching it until I've unlocked everything except the Frostcataclysm nodes
Rogneda + SP Sam is fixing her survival issue jumping into melee range with that auto (5*) map wide auto heal
>>577794241Thanks! Curious what’s the synergy with sp maitha and og inanna
>>577794783OG Inanna's unique ascension lets her get in on the rally command/rally response mechanic that the Sword of Convallaria team (SP Maitha, SP Nungal, SP Maitha, etc) uses.
>>577794972Meant to say SP Faycal instead of SP Maitha twice, though it'd be great if we could just field her twice instead of him kek
>>577757209>you will never use her past this ToAshe's like SP Rawiyah... probably right
>>577800376Uh SP Rawi has been used in all our ToAs until now.
>>577800805I also just use her frequently for all sorts of stuff besides ToA
What hunter level is good to start Relentless difficulty? or Endless?
>>577801695You can do it as soon as you unlock it but you'll probably need a refresh.
Beward, page 10!
They broke Falin's AI, she won't cast any abilities except her basic attack.
Knight Guard, Brutebear Shieldguard & Elaman Shield Guard all have Spiky Shield reaction which is great for dealing with the summon bugs solo.
>>577759490Lukamar 3* > Lutfi 3* > Lukamar 5* imo. I don't have Credenza so no idea if it's worth starring her.
>>577815702Chadpression completely solos the Nest Bugs by himself taking zero dmg
>>577818389Thanks for reminding me, completely forgot his trait was unlimited.
>>577817096Who is the Pooch of Luccia?
>Friend request receivedWhere do you even come from?
>>577827690I've gotten a request from the same guy over 10 times now and when I tried to accept it so it would stop I was informed that his friends list is at the cap and cannot have any more anywayI get at least one request a day and lately more of them have started to look more like bots than people
>>577827893>I get at least one request a dayyou must have few and get listed in random more? I'm around 60-80 and receive them maybe once a month or two unless I've topped some ranking or something
>>577771532No, he's made for love.
>>577831343Die!
>my Rogneda just jumped across the entire map and oneshot all enemies turn 1 with a super saiyan energy blastWhy were people saying she was bad and comparing her to Shams, again? I almost skipped her because of that shit.
>>577834798Stop bullying my husband.
*saves ur game*
>>577837189I haven't seen anyone saying she's bad, just lower priority than several upcoming luccians, at least for people who care about character power and shelf life
>Kianshir>Meta in Guardian trials and ToA>Discipline aura for AnnaKianshir skippers???
I figure the answer is no, but if you buy the Anna skin bundle thing do you get a copy of her?
>>577840517no
>>577840689Why would I ever buy it then if I missed Anna? How often are characters reran?
>>577840739Pretty rarely on a dual banner. You can buy them with selectors eventually. Choose them for Fate's Favor rolling. Or be spooked by them on any roll. Probably not worth buying the skin unless you know you would play for a long time and get them eventually through some means.
>>577840739I guess you're asking because the skin event and reward track has lasted longer than annathey rerun in tandem with another character where you have 37% chance of getting either one but it wouldn't be any time soon for a new character and it's not a good deal unless you're missing both characters and want either one because dupes
What are some characters that have resolve to try on the upper floor 5+? I have no summoners so I guess I'll try characters that auto-rez once or more.
>>577837189Her AOE is fraudulent if we're being honest. Love her movement and combos tho.
Rogneda needs 3* right? she kinda feels like ass right now. Great mobility though
Kinda funny how rog can barely maintain her transformation (in gameplay) despite being a pureblood in lore
why are you guys bullying acambe
>>577850291He's brown
>>577850291I’m not. Kinda wish I had him for this ToA.
>>577847752She needs 5*. 3* is bare minimum for transform to not take 10 years.
>>577852241>>577847752I'm using Goldenlion Warspirit for transformit fits the latest trend of characters that have a crutch for a non optimal ability loadout that enables them at low starbut at least the other rk1 ability is not an ability you would pick except for being HP node so it's not at castalia cost for rog
>>577852241>she needs 5*Wtf
>>577837460>Clara's sisterMost brutal family mogging I've ever seen.
>>577853031that message killed 4chan you can not trust it
Are we back?
>>577855841Surely it's Cleia, not Clara
>>577856009We're so back
Clara bros I don't feel so good..
>>577856329The automated AI voice in her trailer said Clara, but it was most likely mistranslated.Cleia would make much more sense.
>>577837460Is this new Papal arc a prequel story like Night Crimson and the Ivan one?Because where have these amazing women been the whole time?
>>577837189Nobody said she was badThey said she was worse than Anna and Alexei which is true
Pooch is for ____
They should add a 6th Bond level worth an extra 5% stats limited to 1 unit
>>577859172BRICKING!
>>577859172Word on the street is Pooch was not a skip, meta fags in ruins again
>>577859172revenge!Beat Hashem to deathWITH CLOWN BALLS!
>>577857036Clara's internal file name is "knightsSister", so this could be the case. Most Union characters have the prefix "knights". The only other characters that also have sister in their name are NonoWill and LilyWill, named "sisterSinger" and "sisterChief".On a side note, I'm disappointed that it would be nearly impossible to extract sprite sheets for most characters because weapons are animated separately and attached to characters. In game screenshots aren't always accurate either because all characters have normal maps and lightning will change what they look like.>>577860393No, only 1% stats so that it doesn't actually matter. But add a golden ring icon to the stats screen to indicate the obvious.
>Acambe saving me in yet another game modeSex with my hero!
>>577864143I wish devs added the sprites where the characters are lying down and sitting besides two jumps and a cheer to Elysium. This way I can make it appear like there has been a big party at my house and half of the characters are drunk/passed out.
>>577864485I want a separate wing to the house where fully bonded characters can hang out and maybe even walk around and do stuff like they are really there
>>577864143there was recently a clouddrop.wiki (domain has expired RIP) that had many old characters idle animated but maybe they were just taken from the characters page
>Set Vow of Reunion to Agata and SP Inanna>Got an early SP InannaShould I keep going on the banner to get Agata? I'm tempted to just buy the legendary selectors in the store.Lukamar, Credenza, Samantha, Nydia, Ayishah, Estra, and Luvata all seem neat. Any recommends between them? Luvata seems cool with the tile mechanic
>>577865867That would be cool too.
>>577867838it's a 50% chance to get SPinanna instead if you do and it looks like you've already spent a bunch as a new player and don't have any of the new lucciansagata is great but what's making her relevant right now is her rank 13 skill and you're far from that. new luccians have wardpiercer directly in their abilities
>>577869148I wanted Agata because she seems cool rather than because of the wardpiercer stuff, although that is nice as well. I'd have Anna but I lost the coinflip twice.>it looks like you've already spent a bunch as a new playerIt's an old account that I never got far on
>>577864245Acambe will always serve a purpose as long as they keep making this "king of the hill/occupy spaces" content, which seems to be pretty common in ToA.
>people were calling him shit like a week ago>now hes metaso do metafags just have no clue what they're talking about?
Acambe was always a /socg/ favourite.
>>577874535He was shit a week agoThis may astound you but during times when the content that makes him meta isn't there he isn't meta
>>577874717Not skipping him was always a source of ridicule
does Acambe have some effect over Kianshir for the TOA summoner stage or is it just that so few people got Kianshir
During this month I've spent:>$5 on the daily blessing>$11 on the cornucopia>$20 on Anna skin>$20 on the Ayisha skin>$15 on 2x 10 pulls + 5 weapon pullsSounds excessive even for an anniversary.But then I took almost my entire family out to eat and it was $120.
>>577875432The latter because if you have both you'd use both.
>>577875567daddy...
>>577875567>$5 on the Daily Blessing>$30 on the "30 for 80" deal (60 banner, 20 weapon)Most I've spent since the first Agata skin, but I don't mind.
>>577878983Sorry, I meant $30 for 60. Seems to refresh every banner, so I might stock up.
Um rogneda... I want my fucking rolls back!!!
>>577874762Shut up retard, you meta sheeple said he was shit and now he's good.
>>577882290I got spooked by him but I still refuse to build him.
>>577882191She's already out, Anon. The "Rog is bad" propaganda no longer works.
>>577882607NTA but my lukamar is stronger.
>>577882191We were fools..
>>577882607I have her, takes fucking forever to transform. Good thing it was only 18 rolls
MY GUY MELLOW TOLD ME SHE'S STILL GOOD IN THE PAPAL ARC!!!!
>>577882724>Good thing it was only 18 rollsMine took ten times that. I don't feel so good...
>>577882724she has an ability to transform turn 1
>>577883528I'll just be a good boy and get her to 3*
>Preemptively does a back flip>Gets punched in the face anywayI-I'M ROGGING OUT!!!!
>>577882290That's how the meta works, units that suit the needs become considered goodTo be clear I still say he's shit
>>577885289Sheep
>>577887332Niggerlover
>>577567313Touch vlder tail application #9067
>>577890274For anyone else in the future please put your name too, since the anni started we get dozens of applications everyday and I'm too lazy to clear them regularly.
>>577890557I saw like 90 of them when I looked the other day but wasn't at my computer to scan the thread for any real requests. "Yeah that's a tomorrow problem" that I never came back to solve.
>>577884371Yeah, that reaction is major bullshit. I thought the point of it was to move her out of the way to avoid the attack, but it grants the enemy infinite range.
>>577893582is that all enemies or just the ones that are immune to interrupt or that do have that much attack range
>>577895012Everything. The most basic mob with 1 range can try to hit her, she jumps away multiple squares, and their attack will still hit her.
>>577895012Her reaction doesn't have interrupt.
>>577896837>>577896036when Leonide preempts and pushes doesn't it stop enemies from melee attacking him?
>>577898128Nobody knows what Leonide does, nobody likes Leonide
>>577899276There's one anon here who got him to 5*, if he still plays he could tell us.>tfw 3* Leonide via dupes aloneI think I might've used him once, but that was long ago.
>>577899276You're rolling for SP Leonide whether you like it or not.
AHH SHE'S SO COOL!!
>>577901949No, then I would feel compelled to get Leonide to 3 stars and I don't want to do that, it's funny to me that the top ranked Leonide is only at 2
>>577905826But you don't need him at 3 stars.
>>577901949*We* lie in wait...
It's funny how I usually regret rolling Acambe until ToA comes out and he's mandatory. Maybe I should finally 5* him.
he won
Won the skip award.
Alright, what's the next collab gonna be?
I hope we get more newer events and stories with Acambe in it. I miss him. In fact, give him an SP. Yeah... I can see it. Especially considering how the Elysium gang charcters have been getting SP's or Tarots or whatever they're called. By the way, what are the new Tarot SP's? Are they like the characters that represent a Tarot card or something?
>>577925280unlikely, he's not main gang, what mechanics would an SP even have unless it's a complete heel turn and he's the devil tarot
>>577924891Breath of Fire 3>Ryu, Garr, Rei, and Nina
>think the hunting ground battles looks easy>field Shams, Shahnaz, and Maitha only>die like a bitch
>>577929951>he's not main gangHuh? But he's featured in events in Elysium. I thought he's part of the intitial Elysium gang just like Col, Miguel, Agata and Garcia. She's not the main-main gang as in Maitha, Faycal, Rawi, but he's out there with characters like Cocoa, Garcia and Col. >what mechanics would an SP even haveAnything. The sky is the dev's limit. They can make him a dps who throws money at people or a support that throws money on his allies, giving them buffs. >Devil tarotWhy not Wheel of Fortune?In truth I just really really want him to be meta for at least a little while, not just as a spawn bot in temporary game modes like ToA.
>Highest ‘meta’ tier is almost entirely male>Ivan, Alexei, Arman, Heshan
>>577943914>They can make him a dps who throws money at people or a support that throws money on his allies, giving them buffs.he's already that, I doubt they would make a non summoner version of him when he's the first archetypal one and summoner design has been too constrained to expect multiples like the Abyss trader with her moneybags
>Casually ruins the entire experience
>>577925280He's the OG Elaman representative, I think he's got a very strong chance of getting a Tarot version. Especially since the recent dev interview said they plan on doing 4 Tarot characters per year (Samantha's the next one).As for what they are, I think the arc after Luccia (conclusion of the Fool's Journey) might delve more into it.
>>577962264Those guys are annoying little stun lockers for your slow units if they can't get out of range. For me though it's the wolf reskin sabercats that can move and attack 3 times for 15 move total that hit for rot and counter rot hit on damage.
>>577963806Somebody was smoking something when they made Luccian content and it's not even the wards that are the problem.>uphill battle where enemy mages cast large AoE's that also freeze the ground with unlimited range>enemy units that multi-hit and trigger other multi-hitters, repeatedly>enemy units that turn into bears and won't die for two turns, needlessly prolonging a battle>slime monsters that freeze your characters to stun them>lots of DoT's being spread on hit>half the big ass skill tree is just accounting for different weather effects or making skills maybe kinda sorta worth casting >friendly NPC's that you need to keep alive that start away from you and also don't seem to scale so harder difficulties they just die on turn 2I can see why the chinamen got angry with ward mechanics being stringent laid on top of all of that shit. This nerfed version is still annoying and yet also not variant enough.
>>577965090I agree with pretty much all of this. The basic concept of having new characters breeze through while old characters can still be very viable by countering certain mechanics is actually not a bad way of introducing power creep. But this is just very poorly executed and frustrating. It's hard for the wrong reasons. If I could actually effectively counter these enemies properly, it would be fun. But somehow instead they expect you to wait out being hit by attacks that deal 70% of any characters health for several turns, while going up against 5+ of them at the same time. Or those shit porcupines who will never, ever face you after turn 1 and I still don't know how to actually break their wards because nothing in the description tells me (might be a translation problem? Or they only break on certain quests? I have no idea).Convallaria definitely has problem with enemy mechanic design to where they are either pushovers or absolute cancer gimmicks, nothing in between I'll shill an indie game that did SRPG enemy mechanic design fairly well: Hero Lodge. Not perfect whatsoever, but better than a lot of others out there in terms of actual strategy.
>>577967053That tail is too fucking bigReminds me of that picture of Guts with his cock slung over his shoulder
>>577965090This might be difficult for a gachatard to comprehend, but enemies having different strengths and weaknesses and requiring unique strategies to take down is good game design. Most of the shit you're complaining about doesn't even happen if you attack the enemy properly, like the "immortal" bears. Try playing Quake sometime. >nooooo mommy help me I just want to press the Auto button and nuke everything with AoEs!!!!1
>>577968012I’ve played crpgs and strategy rpgs my entire life. This content is easily in the bottom third in terms of encounter and enemy design. The game as a whole is good, but not the Hunt related stuff, especially the human enemies. Don’t BS me.
Lot of bitching and whining recently, who's raiding this time?
>me, a kianshir chad is enjoying Luccia metaSummons is the best defense for the new bullshits
while the whining is 99% skill issue I too am annoyed by these 6 attacks a turn plus tip dudes >>577962264are you quite done? oh you had more assists to process, and so did your friend. friends. in your own time
>>577968012>Most of the shit you're complaining about doesn't even happen if you attack the enemy properly, like the "immortal" bearsUntil you get a broken one that keeps resetting it's unlimited resolve turn counter which has been almost a quarter of the ones I've fought
>>577968012This. Luccia ward is pretty well designed. Powercreep is still a problem in the game but the way ward works has been pretty good at making you use a varied roster instead of just spamming your biggest AOE unit. Suppression the GOAT of fucking nest bugs.
>>577970239Yeah, Goldenlions are rough with all their attacks. I had the stage where Alexei has to prove his way into the Vanguard team in the story with the stage in the back and you start on the left and 3 friendly NPCs are on the right.I got the weak NPCs, not the Luccians, and it's a wipe if they all die. Bunch of lion enemies acted first and killed all 3 of them before I even got a turn.Had to restart, and deploy towers just to box my own NPC allies in to let them survive a turn, and a lion still managed to walk around the wall of towers and charge my allies to kill 1 of the 3 friendlies.
How the hell do I get 3 stars on ToA level 6? I simply don't do enough damage.
>>577972006>I simply don't do enough damageI think I know what you should try firstDo more damage
>>577972006If you're new and don't have your talent tree to immortal, you simply can't.
>>577972145How? Also is it normal that my Anna doesn't break the bug in the lower half? Shouldn't the shield thingy crack when you use her skills?
>>577972232That's the thing... I'm not new. My talent tree is immortal but I admit that my Defender one is still radiant. I had to stop farming mats for the tree to farm mats for the characters to build them.
>>577972305Only the single target active skill iirc, I don't think her alert is guaranteed to break them
>>577972473>>577972006ToA is just a roster check. If you don't have Anna and one of either Kianshir or Acambe, you're not getting 3 stars. Anna was like 90% of my damage on the bottom floor, other characters can't even come close to her.
>>577972305Read your skills. Wardpierce =/= ward break
>>577972530The single target is the one with the animation with the sword? I tried that and the bug still didn't break.
>>577972698no, the other one you have to castalia that does 550% damage at max stacks. the multiple choice skill.
>>577972690That's the issue: I have Anna. She just doesn't break the bug for some reason or doesn't no enough damage. And I have Acambe so the upper half shouldn't be an issue but I still got only 20000+ adversity points. >>577972697Okay.
>been 3 weeks>people still don't understand Wardlol
>>577972305Did you read the mission briefing that spells out exactly what you should do and gives barely veiled suggestions for how to accomplish it?
>>577972698Nah, her automatically apply ward break is one of her choice skills, the one that gives you the option of 3 different shots. Hunter's Arsenal, that's the name.You want the middle choice, Armor-Piercing Shot. It'll remove any ward in the game prior to launching her attack.
>>577972860The hunter's arsenal?
>>577973012Got it. Thank you.>>577972950I did but briefly. I'm a bit of a brainlet.
>>577969097No one. We’re just noticing that fighting the same dozen enemies, half of which are cancerous, stopped being fun at three weeks.
>>577973584Skill issue I'm afraid
just commit mass bug genocide with Annait's that easyyou guys didn't skip Anna...right? right?!
>>577973895I don’t lie to myself about it what content sucks. Nothing improves when you just pump sunshine. Hopefully Papal States is better.
>>577974141It could be much better yet you would still be crying. That's just how you're built.
>>577974126Anna skippers in shambles
>>577974141Spoilers, it won't be
Yeah, I buffed the hell out of Anna and used the middle skill and it worked. Thanks, bros.
It's time to admit Luccia is trash, and it almost killed the game.
Anyone else throwing all their shards at Heshan's astral
This game is making me want to play more SRPGsWhich has a better story - FFT or Tactics Ogre?
>>577977709FFT has a better story overall but TO is good. I actually prefer TO overall due to larger party deployment.
>>577974573But it could be. It has holy garbed women too. Improvement.
>>577977709FFT is still popular today for a reason. You can't go wrong with ether and both have recent remakes.
>>577976321I'm getting the one with Sham and Clara's weapons in it. I have both of them.
>>577977709Depends on what you want from the story. I'd put TO miles ahead because it allows room for choices and isn't bogged down with making sure that you are always heroic at the cost of interesting story beats.
>>577977709Tactics Ogre has Canopus, Lans and the rest of the White Knight crew. It wins on this basis alone.
>>577977709Tactics Ogre
>>577965090An anon said last thread they liked the new content but had issues with it and that's my opinion. I'm happy to have some new (few) maps and mechanics/mobs that aren't just more useless mooks but think the execution was flawed. I hope the CN backlash doesn't dissuade them from trying something like this again.I'm still enjoying playing the sod modes and working up towards trying a full endless run over anything that was in elaman.>>577977709TO is the 1.0 sod but vastly superior that many other games have tried to replicate since. FFT it's been awhile but has more character stuff where TO often feel like you're just part of something bigger.
Man started not too long ago but this game gives no time to save for units, it’s one after another
>>577980557Learn to skip units and just pull for who you like. There isn't even much content every patch for people to metafag.
>>577980557It helps to have one unit that you are okay with skipping. Then you get a good portion of time to save up. A nice buffer of pulls gives a comforting feel for future content.
>>577980557We need another 2 month collab to load up.
>>577972881Bug requires lots of hits so just focus mark it. Even when its wings get clipped it won't be ward broken.
>>57798117590% chance I'll have never played or watched whatever the next collab is.
>>577976321for me, its the Rogneda+SP Alexei+Ulya astral pack
>>577982186I said this too going into the first collab but I had watched delicious in dungeon and played a little Witcher 3 so who knows.
>>577975453Hell yeah bro, well done. It's been a busy week, I haven't even tried ToA yet
btw you can just use nrg depleting blow on the bug.
>>577976321I feel like this game's service will end one day and I'll still be chasing shields. I've completed two so far, a physical and a magical one, but I want one more of each, and now Rog wants to be special with her own cup one.
>>577993672I may need to switch from armguard to shield for Rog because she's just that much of a glass cannon.
>>577993625I know, the game flat out told me that
>>577995297nobody here can read
>>577980557Yeah but we have the benefit of knowing the release order ahead of time so just decode who you will save for and who you will skip
Our Guy Hawky revealed that:>Tarot Sam is coming eventually>Going to be about four Tarot characters a year>Some sort of narrative mode coming>Tower of Conquest will have an expanded mode, monthly challenge and replayable>Proof of Strength will get a third region>More catch-up mechanisms coming for newer accounts>New Guild mode coming to encourage cooperation but not combat related>No one played real time PVP so nothing coming there
>>577997691When is Voyage of Discovery coming back
Endless March sucks.I hate it. Several stages are just copy pastes, they waste your units by forcing you to defend NPCs that are too far away with too many enemies between them and spawn points and they rush towards the enemy instead of doing anything to help, frigid debuff wastes your turns if you use instant skills or even pick up act again body parts, you can't use restores to keep playing, and there's way too many research categories that have extremely limited usage. What good are buffs for having 5 of a faction when you're going to be constantly rotating whatever you can slap together? It wouldn't be that bad if it was just dealing with one or two of these problems, but it just doesn't let you play through the mode.
>>577998197Seems like the play is to wait a year so you have enough OP characters to solo most of the stages.
Endless Larp
>>577998197>What good are buffs for having 5 of a faction when you're going to be constantly rotating whatever you can slap together?Good god you're a retardThe buffs start requiring fewer units to trigger which lets you send out a smaller team without losing power if you put a little bit more thought into the team composition than none at all. This in turn lets you get further with the limit to your total roster size.
I like the structure of the Coldwind Hunt and the skill tree. Endless March seems fine to me too.I don't like the lack of enemy and stage variety, especially with the human enemies. Give me something more than ice mages casting AoE ice and endless berserker attacks. Thanks for coming to my talk.
>>577994836Just give her Crystal Burst Armor.
>>578016590Nice!I'm over halfway through the last star on him, gonna be another 15 days or so for me
>>578005332I think the stages themselves aren't too terrible. It's a little repetitive but not offensively so, especially for a mode that wants you to believe it's endless. But I think the skill tree is retarded. The vast majority of things you can pick up are useless, the deploy tactics are all dogshit as far as I've seen and are super limited, and regular tactics are gonna be march command like 80% of the time. Not to mention you have to buy your way into having less nerfed stats for every faction independently just because fuck you. I'd rather have the mode be less "replayable" with way less investment expected.
>>578016590I sharded him up to open a spot for Rog, congrats.
What start level is optimal for SP Alexei?
>>5780245945. You don't roll a gigacarry just to take them to 3*.
>>578024884Shahnaz gets a week in the mines then.
>>577980557This game is kinda shitty early on with how it takes a while to stabilize pity but once you have around 1000 rolls spent, it's quite comfy with getting a legendary every 50 rolls. Reminder that literally every single unit goes into the loss pool so you will be spooked by characters you've skipped quite often.If you FOMO every single character's Debut banner tho you're gonna need to spend.
>>578018530made for Acambe
Kinda funny how our ToA is only with Anna and Rog while China also had SP Alexei and Ulya for theirs. Devs must know that globalCHADS are better strategy gamers.
>>578027762Duh, chinks needed the likes of Shahnaz just to feel brave enough to try the Witcher world boss
>>577998197Why do we have Reddit posting bots in a general that consistently hits page 10?
Remember when tier lists were based on stationary bosses and since then not a single one has been added.
>>578031319Brickest of brickShould've 5* Flavia instead
>>578033230I have both, still use Estra more
So Acambe summons assassins or something?That sounds badass, I love summoners
>>578034219They're less assassins and more scarecrows really
hope we get a collab with Blaze the Movie Fan
>>578037692Good questionHow do we get a collab with Demon Slayer and/or Full Metal Alchemist?
>>578037692>>578040615I read this as >How do we get a collab with x morning brain not working
>>578040724I can't believe a post about Blaze the Movie Fan was too advanced for you to follow
>>578041129Walking in a straight line is too advanced for me in the mornings
We need a normie collab to prevent EoS
only 100 more blue stars and Anna will vaporize all content in the game
Yeah, this mode is a pain in the ass. I don’t know why some stages are designed with the enemies so far away, and there are so many of them that I have to sit there and wait for their attack animations. It’s such a painful experience.For an account with limited units, I’m just trying to clear Stage 9 for the Secret Fate and don’t really see a reason to go any further just to get another Mysterious Deflection Device.
So which one of you is this?
>>578052674shams isn't even black, he's just tanned
>>578053459He's spiritually black.
>>578053580>loves white women>does nothing but jobsshieeeeeeeeeeeeeet......
>>578029864Hey I manually copy and pasted that shit. Also everyone uses reddit now, don't lie.
>>578042291Nah let this shit die
>>577896837>>577893582to be fair Homa and Estra reactions were hacked together with interrupt and also gave infinite range to enemies that were immune to interrupt, it's just weird of the dev to make Rogneda reposition before instead of after
>>578056460It's unintentionally hilarious, her timing just sucks
i think Rogneda SUCKS!
do you think Rogneda has 4 rognedas while she's turned lion
I'm too lazy for ToA.
I really hope someone got fired for this blunder
>>578064374Same, stage 5 seems like it'd take a good half hour to clear so fuck it. I'll wait until SP Alexei is out. Fuck this game for not respecting my time.
>>578065309>WAAAAH WAAAAAAHkeep crying
>>578065309You rang?
>>578065480A half hour bothers you? It’s meant to be a challenge and not an auto battle fest.
>>578069576a half hour for a tutorial difficulty battle (for my account) did annoy me a bit but it's fine I'm getting over it by also waiting
>>578061129>Rog briefly considered tier 0 upon her initial release on the Taiwan servers (we are currently here)>Larpers acting as if she sucks based on future releases we don't even have yetZZZzzz...
Man the Pioneer 125 difficulty Hasna fight is brutal. What's the best way of dealing with her?
>>578074453is it regular hasna abilities? if so she's mainly single target so you could dodge bait her with a low MDEF seeker while cleaning up the rest
>>578074453Reverse healing and don't bother trying to take her out until round 2
>>578074929>>578076735Managed to win but only Lukamar and Shams survived. It's disgusting how unsurvivable this is for anyone except Elaman units thanks to the Soul Wound completely raping your stats and HP. Also had to completely rush Hasna ASAP while teleporting away enemies coz the fight was impossible if she survived the second turn. I guess this is a Heshan check. Either have Heshan or die lol.
>>578076735>>578080538Forgot to mention but does anyone other than Heshan have Healing Reversal? I don't have him.
>>578081213KiyaWild Mane
>>578081257Thanks. Guess I'll try them next week to get the last 2 clears for sweep unlock.
Shams lead auto-team failed a medium mission while I went out for Chinese
>>578081213You could simply block healing instead, reversing it just gives a couple of hundred extra points of damage
>>578081952Is Reversing not a 1:1 conversion? She heals for like 10k+ per enemy attack.
>>578082660Nah it does fuck all to her, don't remember exactly what the deal was, might have been something percentage based so it got hit by a 95% reduction or something
How many characters are one-star wonders?As in, excellent even without starring them up at all.
>>578085291some are functional at 1 star like Geralt or Camelot but compared to 3 to 5 starred versions of others you would not call any of them excellent except for obvious powerhouses like Camelot and Shazinha
>>578085291NonoWill
>>578086892Okay maybe ‘Excellent’ was the wrong word. How about ‘good enough to leave at one star for a long time and use’.
>>578087737InannaEddaHeshanPoochTaair
>>578087737Inanna, Momo, Falin, Taair, Geralt... then most characters are so powercrept that leaving them at one star is more about them not being worth the investment but it doesn't mean you can't use them. Teadon and Dantalion with their ascensions are decent, Nono has the same utility and just refreshes her magic defense slowly
>>578089027What does Momo do well?
Skipya
Will it flop?
>>578095031The fuck? It's out?
>>578095031Don't know, don't careNone of my business
>>578095234there's a closed beta going on in CN
I LOVE WORKING HARD TO GET ANOTHER ARMY BREAKING SPEAR THANK YOU SO MUCH GAME.
>>578089541Intercepting small enemies with alerts or pushing/pulling at range though there are more options for that now. At higher stars she's also resilient enough to fight off melee threats with more bubble charges and is a DOT booster
>>578096794>WORKING HARDyeah ok bub, whatever you say
Literally the only reason we can't select gear is so they can sell the fucking cornucopia no one cares about.
>>578093181Needs correction.
>>578098285Yep, that's gacha. Create problem, sell the solution, then offer a shittier free solution that'll make you think "if only I spent money on the real solution" every time you use it.
>>578098285everything bad can be traced back to the Cornucopia>most free trinkets were nerfed into uselessness to sell the Cornucopia. for example, Berserker Incense used to be Instant in the beta. >the good trinkets like Scroll of Auguste were made incredibly rare so you are forced to buy the Cornucopia to acquire copies of iteverything bad that happened in your life? Cornucopia. that little thing that annoyed you deeply but you couldn't explain why? Cornucopia.
>>578099707
I'd quit on the spot.
>>578103518Holy brickarooEvil brat wins again
>>578103518
I forget the cornucopia even exists every month.
Honestly the free weapon and trinket is strong already. The only truly unique sig is Cred for quick 1st turn nrg.
>>578106701A lot of signatures are side-grades, if not slightly better.
>>578106701>The only truly unique sig is Cred for quick 1st turn nrg.Quill gives my Nungal free NRG even quicker and on every single turn though
Ayisha is truly perfect
>>578109238
>>578106701Also Parcifal's armor for +1 movement, lots of people forget about it for the weird way it was implemented in global.
>>578111000I did forget about thatI'm gonna give it to Dantalion
>>578109431What's with the squished hat?
>>578112252This is her trying to play it cool after getting bonked by Cocoa
/socg/ give me a rpg recommendation to try while I wait for Forstcataclysm.
>>578118239Mewgenics
>>578118239Star Knightess Aura
>>578118239Super Star Wars: The Empire Strikes BackOh wait, you said rpg.Jeanne d'Arc finally got ported to the playstation store a couple years ago, it's like ten bucks.
>>578120076>>578120750I've played Mewgenics (very recommended if you like soc) and Jeanne D'Arc way back. I liked how they got around a certain historical event in that.>>578120412No porn games.
>>578121956Horizon's gate
>>578118239Stardust Wish of the Witch
>>578123575Played already with some expanded content mods and was pretty fun. Would recommend on sale.>>578123909I'll check the demo out
Momogenics
Floor 6 was ez, I don't know what you people have been talking about
Game stop pinging me about your scam pick'em banner.
>>578132520>scamThat's literally one of the most valuable banners in the game. There's a reason it's rare AF.
>>577567313"Part gacha"motherfucker something can't be part gachaits either not a gacha or it is a gacha
>>578134809It's part gacha actually
>>578134758Diff anonI chose Luvata and Afra, got Afra, and then moved on.
>>578134809There is a gacha mode.And a non-gacha mode.Gacha has gacha, stamina, limited time events, pvp, etc.Non-gacha is a series of stories with branching paths and endings set in a fantasy world where you build your mercenary band from non-gacha recruits or control parties of particular story characters depending on the mission until you hit the end and the credits roll like any other normal srpg.Essentially, these chinks were making their own take on Tactics Ogre, realized their little studio is poor as fuck and couldn't fund their creative vision, so they frankensteined a gacha game on the side while keeping the non-gacha game more or less isolated from it, and used the monetary practices of gacha to fund their actual game and its future sequels and expansions.
>>578136232hm. I fully assumed it was a poorly worded OP. Guess ill give it a shot
>>578136735Hope you have fun. Stick to the "Spiral of Destiny" mode to avoid the gacha stuff
This is a new one.
>darklight debuff niggas in FJ expert mode
>>578139407Yeah fuck those wankers
>lvl 70 stage>says evenly matched>get completely btfo
>>578140052Sounds like your own fault desu senpai
How many pulls can I expect to get from the permanent story content outside of the fools journey?
>>578149508There's a decent amount but that's not what you should be playing it for. SoD takes ages to do.Majority of your pulls is from events and Fool's Journey. Play SoD when you want story. The pulls are just a small bonus.
>>578149675Ok thanks, I am kinda speeding through fools journey but wanted to take the other stories slow and enjoy them. I have the daily pass and might get the BP, otherwise not sure. How is Luvata? I want to go for her on the selector thing
>>578150128Luvata's great. Teleports around via patches of fire which is cool, drops giant fireballs which is very cool, causes little chain reaction explosions that can spread through groups beyond the range she would be able to reach with attacksVery fun unit to play despite being NRG hungryAlso hot, that's important to remember
>>578150128>How is Luvata?She's decent. Fairly solid AOE mage that has a niche in covering the map in fire (and making your team immune to fire tiles).She's just outclassed by powerhouses like SP Samantha and Shahnaz. She is getting a buff in upcoming Papal content and she does work quite well with SP Sam so if you like her she'll serve you well.If you're new and just want pure meta though I'd pick SP Sam and SP Inanna from selector banner.
Still want to pit Luvata against that flower
>>578151856flat ass
>>578153123Learning how to swing a big fuck off saw blade behind your own back is dangerous stuff
>>578150338>>578150416I've posted it a few times over past week or so that I've been playing again but here is my current roster.Luvata is probably my most wanted that I don't have, Agata being another one. SP Samantha seems neat as well, I think I am currently using her in the Fools Journey Chapter I am in. I care more about characters I like than meta, but I am willing to pull meta to elevate characters I like such as getting SP Ianna. Lukamar, Yserinde, Kvare, Ayishah, Pooch Runrun, Yeganeh, Flavia, and Nydia all seem neat as a broad net of units. I'm also not sure how teambuilding works yet, I'm just putting units I like together.
>>578150338>causes little chain reaction explosionsI haven't seen that happen in months. Mine's just 2* but even assuming 5* doubles her damage it still wouldn't nearly cut it.Given NRG she's great at laying down fire tiles that your team is immune to (if they never get dispelled) but I wouldn't count on her for damage, even her ult is scorch=percentage damage based and everything resists that now
>>578161228Based Pamina owner.
>>578161228Also do you all think I am bricked? I like the units but SP Rawiyah, Layla, and Nonowill feel pretty useless. That might just be a result of them still being low rank and me not knowing what I am doing but I see other units and I feel like I should just reroll. SP Ianna I know gets a lot better as she gets more investment for example.>>578163685I like her a lot, I got her sig as well. I like counter attack characters and her design looks good.
>>578164490granted leonide and magnus are no prizes but a new account having SP inanna is doing fine and you have solid units with pamina+momo and afra is one of the best at control even if theres some anti synergy for your strikeback focus if she puts enemies to sleep>SP Rawiyahup to 2 different push a turn but I think with a long cooldown at 1*, her power has been crept a long time ago so just give her a denial hammer and consider her an alternate papal ice priest for pushing>Laylahaven't used her>Nononiche utility without SP Maitha, if you ever start using the flag tactic then she could at least do dodge-vulnerability every other turn but vulnerability 2 is close enough and on more and more units so you'll doubtlessly bench her before long
>>578164490A lot of characters don't really "work" before you get r11 skills
>>578164490Your highest rated character, Momo, is basically useless (outside of simple pushes/pulls) until she gets R11, and she gets much stronger with her maxed R13 ascension.I think NonoWill's niche now is that she has a zero NRG, 6 radius AoE that deals single target damage, infection, and isn't considered an "active skill", plus decent extra attacks with SP Maitha. The prior only comes with maxed R13 ascension though, and early game she's really only useful as a high move jumper which are nice for auto content. Something fun I've done is a single turn 3 radius wide sleep using Innana's act again and NonoWill's infection sleep.
>>578164490No account with SP Inanna is ever bricked.
I threw Acambe to solo a bunch of white purus at lvl 2 normal difficulty in the hunt mode and he got eaten alive. Those purus aren't even lvl 60... the hell
>>578161228You should honestly raise everyone to at least around 50. it's quite cheap XP wise and gives you a lot more options in fights as you build your roster. Don't sleep on epics on new accounts. They can easily fill holes that your legendaries can't.
>>578175404retroactively bricks accounts in your path
>>578171379That image is so sovlfullWhy is no one copying SoC's art designSquare's hd2d is so ugly
>>578192862no one likes pixelshitultra-realistic Unreal 5 graphics are the future
>>578162428I have mine at 5* and built for crits and I see Leaping Flames trigger all the time
Pooch has saved you from page 10.
>>578203020Thanks Pooch baby-cakes.
>>578203020ForgottenWe Ulya now
>>578203020What is she good for? She cute.
>>578206772Ulya's shit
>>578206869Unlimited dodges and every time she dodges she gives enemies AIDSjust park her in a corner against enemies who deal single target damage and she solos them all
>>578215959>This is Pooch's voice actorYikes.
>>578195641>no one likes pixelshitI'll love it forever. Hope it outlives people my age, but those hopes aren't high
>>578216198Does that roster mean something to people conversant in anime?I thought I was skipping Pooch because of her headshot pic but she's been featured in assist characters enough that I now realize her voiceover would have annoyed me even more
>>578215959Would this be good for something like working towards a "DoT team"? I'm not sure how much synergies and such matter for teambuilding.
>>578219186If you want a DoT team then yeah, Pooch is a must
>>578219186DoT teams aren't really meta, they're something you play for funsies. But yeah Pooch has piercing vulnerability, 30% dot damage aura, and good dot damage so she's a linchpin for a theoretical dot team. Senna also comes out soon-ish and she's another good DoT character.
>>578222183>DoT teams aren't really metaRight now. AIDS meta comes and goes just like everything else.
>>578223986>>578222183DoT was a skeleton key to stages with damage reduction mechanics where devs seemed to keep forgetting to add piercing damage reduction, but like with percent damage it seems they've learned their lesson and now just do "final damage taken" reduction on everything
I started a week ago. Was just looking for something to pass some time because I’ve injured my foot and can’t go out much.. stumbled over this Game and thought why not, i like FFT, I’ve played gachas in the past - seems like something to keep me busy for some time.Well consider me fucking busy cause what the fuck have i gotten myself into. Im having a blast playing and im loving the characters, and theres just so many of them. Most of them i dont even know anything about yet.Ive completed two loops of SoD and man…what the fuck. I didnt expect Storys half as good as these. I wanted something to play while watching TV or something and now i havent noticed 2 hours going by while finishing the Bad ending Samantha Route (i guess theres a good one…right?). It just hooked me so much out of nowhere.Cycling back to the characters - it's so cool to get to know them in this Game. They are so full of personality. I dont care if she’s Meta or Not, i will try to get Col because i just fucking love her. The scene with the cat and then her dying with Miguel…it really hit hard for me, and she barely had any screentime at all but that was enoughAlso the Designs - Female characters without overexagerated boobs? In a gacha?? Hell fucking yeah. Pulled for Rogneda instantly. Got her. Currently punching every living being in sight. What a beast. Im so stoked to learn more about her Story and how she became a Saiyajin.I just wanted to get this ramble out because as mentioned, not getting out much this week. Thanks for reading.Also fuck Garcia that little shit
We hate Garcia here.
>>578226115*love
Garcia is among the best of the actual Papal factionists. Luvata doesn't count. Caris, Leonide, Sam and Credenza are all between shit and fuckin shit.Papal States are the worst.
>>578225410>(i guess theres a good one…right?)Yeah, there's a good ending for the first four routes (Iria, Union, Papal and Merchant/Trade Routes), though thee isn't a proper Golden Route until SP Inanna's SoD later on.Sounds like you'll be excited to get the new older, happy ending Col coming out after the current arc.Roggers is hot and badass, and gets a lot of screen time in the current SoD, glad you're having fun bro.
>>578222183It's ironic that DoTs really shines in stat inflation events because of double scaling which doesn't apply to Pooch
>>578225410We hate Garcia and Beryl herePapal scum
wtf Col dies...
>>578225410You were doing so well up until the end. We love Garcia everywhere.
Wew, these last few Guard Trials are tough. I imagine most are waiting to crush them with SP Alexei. I just have 16 left to go, Afra was really hard in 15.
Oh yeahForgot guard trials existed
Me tooSame with huntsLuccia fucking sucks
Luccia SoD has been the worst one so far but Papal will definitely end up worse
>>578239134I couldn't even get past Alexei...though Anna could nearly solo that if I really tried
>>578239826And consider we got the nerfed luccia mobs. Can't imagine how fucking unfun the CN version was.
>>578239826>>578241186you WILL roll for every Luccianyou WILL break ze wardsyou WILL eat ze bugs
>Guard trialsDon't care until i have 5star SP Alexei, 5star Ivan and 5star Arman.
>>57823913416 is way easier
>>578225410Play the shit out of it, bro. You have so much left to see.
>>578247561Here's hoping she's good.Reminder another new sod mode comes out today. Probably just more of the same.
>>578225410Make sure to play the Night Crimson campaign. It's by far the best one.
>replying seriously to a reddit botlol
>>578262656You'd think people would be able to pick up on reddit speak
>>57826652780% of this general are redditorsThat's just how people here speak
>>578266629More the reason to be able to pick up on it then
>>578266657No it isn't
>>578266721Oh that's fair, you got me.
>Do a single ten pull on the Fates Fortune banner>Get both characters I choose on it in said ten pullProbably the luckiest I have been in a Gacha desu, thank you God for the gift.
>>578266527>>578262656Honestly, if the post has reddit spacing I immediately assume it's from reddit. I think this general just has a lot of newfags.
>>578267058Enjoy your Papal women
>>578269929She is cute and I figure Papal States is getting new stuff after current arc so I will be ready to utilize her.I also saw someone say these two are good together so it works out.
>>578270269>I also saw someone say these two are good together so it works out.SP Samantha has the best Aggression aura and Luvata can mark enemies for Samantha's trait.If you are this anon >>578161228 I'd definitely put Luvata, Sam and Inanna in the memory shard mines. They all scale heavily with stars and make a good core.
How are the Witcher units? Will they rerun again any time soon likely?
>>578272327>How are the Witcher units?Yennefer's great. Others are solid.>Will they rerun againNo idea. Likely not.
>>578272327>How are the Witcher units? The best>Will they rerun again any time soon likely?Absolutely not
>>578273153>>578273192Why wouldn't they rerun them? They put effort into their development so it seems like a waste
>>578273440Because they aren't free to just decide when to rerun characters they don't own
>>578274313If I were Witcher owners I'd want them to be reran to promote Witcher 4 though.
>>578274408If I were Sword of Convallaria owners I would want Sword of Convallaria characters ran to promote Sword of Convallaria though.
>>578273440Gacha collabs (that aren't in-house) usually have a limited time license to sell the collab stuff in question I think. So if they rerun a collab then I think they have to pay for the right to use the IP again, which probably isn't worth it in terms of their bottom line. For example, the Dungeon Meshi gear doesn't have anything explicitly mentioning Dungeon Meshi so you can still get them from Astral Shard packs/gear selectors, but Geralt's weapon is straight up Witcher Swords so that's a no-go. Best you can hope for is that they do a "sequel" collab that also brings along the old banners but that's less likely for the Witcher.
Is Inanna now (our) canon wife?
Iria route canonEverything else is elysium fantasy
ACAMBECHAD(s?) I KNEEL. Using him in ToA feels like cheating.
It's occuring to me just how little I actually use Kvare, he's not getting his Nightmare Puppet back from Afra after ToA this time
I fucking love redditposting
The Hunting Grounds has made me aware that I don't have a real Papal States team. And I want one now. I've got Elaman, Union, and Iria. Castlevania Collab btw
>>578291146>Castlevania Collab btwSounds like dogshit
>>578291146do you mean technically papal as in Luvata, Col, Miguel, Beryl or thematically papalfor the latter I always ended up mixing with epics because who needs 3 supports or garcia
>>578291703The only legendary Papal units I have are SP Sam and Beryl. Gotta fill out the rest with non-legendaries just to get that skill which buffs attack/defense for fielding units of a particular type.
How important are "must pulls"?Will I be filtered out of content by not having them?
>>578293285The 'meta' talk around this game is bizarre. The 'must pull' characters are certainly strong but the recommendations that you need them seem to come from competitive scoring in things like Tower of Adversity. Yet, Tower of Adversity, which is probably the biggest example of high tier content gets almost no discussion here. People just want to accumulate powerful units. You don't need them. 'Meta' advice here is like how people suggest leveling to 200 in dragons dogma in certain classes before then playing the game as intended. Totally pointless.Just roll and skip on what you think will make the game enjoyable for you. Selina is my most used unit and she was in solid 'skip' territory for the meta crowd.
>>578293285Tower of Adversity Stage 7, higher-level Guard Trials, and a few other things are basically unclearable without units like Anna or the upcoming SP Alexei. You can do 90% of content in the game with whatever units you want, though.
>>578291146>Castlevania Collab btwI am finished if that's the case. My entire pull plan is based around collab being a nothingburger. I'd have to swipe.
>>578293285There are no real must pulls in the game. The closest is things like SP Inanna and Yennefer just cause of what they can do that will make them useful pretty much forever.I'd argue what's more important is what a character brings to your roster. It's nice having a wide variety of archetypes so you can handle whatever the game throws at you.The most "useless" pulls are usually the ones that do nothing special and get outclassed big time even in their own niche like Team Meteor. Even in knockback focused stages, you had more success using epics than Meteor.
>>578291971you should also be able to use a deploy tactic papal, assuming there is one, to get the bonus
>>578294769>Richter/Simon/Trevor>Alucard>Rose (new castlevania game protag)>Maria?I'm sure they'd want at least two women.
>>578295336Most recognizable Castlevania woman is Sypha and Maria. For males probably Alucard and Richter or Trevor.
>>578295336>>578295484How could I forget...
Castlevania would be cool AF but it's gonna be an anime no one's ever heard of I bet
Just give me Alucard and I'm happy
>>578295313Good point. I've been using SP Sam, Beryl, Suppression, and Divine Grace (?) an archer. I don't have the skill to make it just three yet. Not that far into the skill tree.
Uh, why are we fighting Ivan again? He really didn't do anything wrong. Forsaken is literally a Terrorist group
>>578296219He's choosing who lives and dies. For that, he must be hated.Might land better if anyone else had some ready alternatives to starvation rather than just taking issue with hellish choices.
>>578296581Just emigrate from this frozen shithole??
>>578297415Ivan’s new idea is to emigrate south via military conquest.
Is it better to use the supreme medal on Alexei or Ivan?
>>578295627Stupid disciple…
Bionicles collab when?
>>578299063You're showing your age unc
>>578298556Alexei, he has 3 builds and all his skills are useful.
So lost coinflips can be any previous SoC character, including the most recent one? (So for example, pulling Anna on the Rogneda banner)Are crossover characters in this pool?
>>578299246Nice thanks. Guess it's time to try stat maxxing Alexei.>>578299383Yes and no, collab characters aren't in the pool. They're the only truly limited characters.
>>578299502That's a shame, Ciri is fun so I imagine the rest are as well.
>>578299618All the Witcher collab chars are fantastic. Dungeon Meshi ones weren't too great with the exception of Falin.
When summoning, do each of the cards have their own results in them or is it always the same outcome regardless of the card you choose?Also I'm pretty sure I got Caris without the card being prismatic and only gold, how does that happen?
Were any of you able to see what they have in the store? Anything good?
>>578303331I'd buy the art book but i also want the in game title code
>>578302131The card you pick is just for flavor. You can try to be "on theme" (picking Emperor for Ivan or something) for an imaginary bonus to your pull rate. Some gacha games have a "fake out" pull animation where a low rarity pull upgrades to SSR/5 Star/whatever. It is pretty hype when you've been getting nothing but Crimson Falcon & Co. for a long stretch.
>>578306251>the way the card flashes purple when it’s time
Conrucopia being divided in seasons is neat until summer is almost ending and you're soon going to see the Autumn Tapestry, reminding you that summer is over.
>>578302131The results are already determined once you press summon.
>>578302131If you pick the Tarot that represents your birthday, you get a 1% boost to SSR rate.
>>578310649How would that even work? 12 months vs 22 major arcana.
>>578310906>he doesn't know
>>578299063every TOA
Probably as good as I'm gonna get.0 on the upperAll that on the lowerI have no summoners
Oh, didn't realize Stage 7 was out.
He's up!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_SbQOGUw9k
>>578316784I will wait for shao
A future warning to all of you.
>>578317583Wait, already? Shouldn't he be out in a week?
>>578323195It’s just a preview vid. Still got til the 28th I think.
I THINK TOWER OF ADVERSITY SUCKS
>>578291146Hey I know it I guess and have played some of the games. There's a lot worse out there.
>>578293823>Tower of Adversity gets almost no discussion herenobody wants to put effort into 30 minutes long battles just to start over when alexei releases
>>578325446I think it’s okay. Kinda fun to have a rare proof of strength style event where it mainly asks “Do you have the toolkit to cover this?” Makes getting a diverse roster over a long period of time feel worth it. I prefer the permanent proof of strength though. Need more of that.
I THINK LUCCIA EVENTS SUCK.
>>578293285It's not as bad as they say unless you care about being on a leaderboard. It may help you be able to auto stages quicker.
>>578331537I hate women
I'm going to try Frostcataclysm, I'll get to Floor 6 over the weekend. It's can't be that tough this time there's already at least 100 of have completed it.
Page 9Time for sex with Acambe
Rogneda is excellent on auto. A one-sexy-woman army.
So SP Col's a skip?
>>578340169I'm rolling for her regardless of what her kit is. She's cute.
>>578340169>hagified hebeHag game
>>578340169It seems so, but if you want her, go for it.Rogneda was a skip and I hard pitied her, been enjoying her so far.
>>578340169All units have a shelf life, better to use the ones you like over the ones you don't.
>>578342186There's a handful that will always be good. I don't see Yserinde going anywhere anytime soon. I need to see how Nydia performs against Papal content since a bunch of the Luccia units neutralized a lot of her damage.
>>578112252
>>578342813Eternally useful.
We love Hags here
did someone say hags?
>>578345518I love PaminaI love SamanthaI love LuvataI love HAGSI LOVE WOMEN
>>578346908Indeed.
>>578296581>Might land better if anyone else had some ready alternatives to starvation rather than just taking issue with hellish choicesThe worst part with this was when Alexei rightly questioned whether or not there's actually a better way to save as many people as possible the only answer he gets is "I saw an unclean lose a fight once and it got me all jazzed up" and he just fucking accepts that as an argument.
>>578345518We dont like papal hags
I'm gonna try to build this the next time I play Enshrouded.
>>578345518I love women in their mid-20s who look like hags!
Stop the count!
>>578360818Hell yeah
>>578360818Well done
>>578336461this got a chuckle from me anon well done
>>578340169It'll be full circle for me to choose Col over stinky stupid Beryl once again, so yeah.
>>578360818Sorc hats cant compete...I kneel Vlder...
>>578360818Goth giraffe reigns supreme.
Thank God for RogNow time to get 0 points in upper half lol
Ah, back from the Duskblood's test. Won all my matches.GarciaGods stay winning.
Do they actually give 1000 Astral Shards per shop reset or do you need to save up?
