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Paladin Edition

What is /crpgg/?

A general dedicated to all Computer Role-Playing Games — past, present, and future. From isometric classics to modern remakes.

Core Games:
Arcanum, ATOM RPG, Avernum, Baldur’s Gate series, Black Geyser, Colony Ship, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Encased, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Might & Magic, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous, Rogue Trader, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, SKALD, Solasta, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, Ultima, Underrail, Vagrus, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many more.

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Cancelled:
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Previous Role-play:>>577507119

>Thread Question
why are modern paladin characters so unlikable?
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>favorite CRPG
>number of people you've had sex with

Fallout 2
3
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>>577654827
how?
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>>577654537
dogshit op and Valerie isn't a paladin
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>>577655120
everyone knows shes a bard
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I've got a new roleplaying idea for a character. He's a fat virgin who sits on a dead porn website and repeats bot-like catchphrases all day. "Based", "capeshit", "slop", "based" eighteen hours of that, intermixed with sporadic masturbation. Anyone ever tried this? Best CRPG for it?
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>>577655197
She's a vindictive bastard
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>>577654827
Same, but 1
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>>577654537
RPGs should have a prostitute class
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Broly
Congo
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>>577655568
You should play A Dance with Rogues
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>>577654827
Tyranny
1- Verse
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For anons that played how would you compare Trazyn's DLC to the other two?
Would you say the content was good and worth the price?
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>A general dedicated to all Computer Role-Playing Games — past, present, and future. From isometric classics to modern remakes.
neck yourself froggygpt
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Could stand here for hours, I have, this is my safe place.
Just catchin' me some fish and listening to the soothing sounds of the earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzU5pZwS2bU

Now this is a hard one, what other CRPGs have fishing?
I can actually think of one, Grimoire! Granted, it's far less developed than in UnderRail.
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>Kibellah's event to join never fired
This fucking game, I swear
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Can I get some non spoilerly advice for Planescape Torment? I keep holding myself up at every philosophy talk decision and would like to get a summary of which endings require which philosophy. Half the characters keep talking about the true death and my answers keep varying. Which gives the most satisfying story?
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>>577658283
vidya fishing is just boomer lootbox opening
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thinking about replaying DA O
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>>577659317
>I would like to get a summary of which endings require which philosophy
None do. Have fun!
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>>577659317
You need t max out all stats to pass a bunch of skill checks to fuse with all your past selves, so it would probably p,ay blind if its your first go at the game.
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>>577659317
Planescape Torment is about just being yourself and maxing Wisdom and Int at character creation
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>>577657078
I’d say it’s the worst of the three and probably not worth it.
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>>577657078
It's the best of the three and definitely worth it
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>>577660801
>You need t max out all stats to pass a bunch of skill checks to fuse with all your past selves
This is not true, at all.
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>>577657078
>worth the price?
Idk I pirated it. It's worse than Void Shadows but better than Lex, same for the length
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>>577661151
I honestly enjoyed Lex more than it. Lex was at least funny at times.
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besides Esoteric Ebb any other CRPG come out this year?
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>>577661386
I'm still shaking and crying because a few characters disrespected my video game avatar which is literally me in internet museum desu
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>>577661558
Uh, well that sucks for you I guess?
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>>577660801
I am playing blind, it's just that so many characters are asking me if they should live or die and debating me about the true death and corpses are being forced to continue working as waggies even long after they're rotting. I dunno, I feel like the game wants me to pick a stance
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>>577661395
look at the ass op
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZPpV7muUmc

>>577654537
>TQ
People these times try to make paladins too relatable. A proper paladin should be
>a true fanatic
>right about the thing they are crusading about
These days paladin characters are only ever one of those things. I don't really see why, it's really easy to add unnerving characteristics to the archtype to balance things out.
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Is it normal for my coffee dispenser to be looking like this?
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>>577654827
>VtMB or Underrail
>3 and they were all Japanese
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>>577654537
>why are modern paladin characters so unlikable?
If you mean crpg wise, because you never get to interact with your deity, get judged by them or do anything meaningful in their name. And also they are either too strong or not strong enough.

Same problem with Clerics and Warlock as well.
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>>577662150
>Tlassposting
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I blame Heinrix and Calcazar for this
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>>577663004
>Ordo Xenos
Why?
Ordo Malleus is clearly the coolest Ordo.
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>>577662150
do me a favor and stick to posting random music videos instead of voicing your opinion
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>>577663004
>>577663071
>get to interact with more Xenos
its literally that simple, RETARDS.
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>>577663071
Hard to imagine why
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>>577663241
Ordo Xenos is literally meant to kill Xenos, not fuck them.
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>>577662546
What's the happiest ending for her because they all seem kind of miserable
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>>577663317
lol, lmao.
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>>577663071
elf fuckers
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>>577663071
wrong
not only is Xenos way cooler than Malleus the Deathwatch is way cooler than the gay knights
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>>577663416
More like touristwatch
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>>577663071
Objectively true. chaoswaifu >>>>> xenowaifu
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>>577663391
>>577663404
>>577663416
>The Ordo Xenos, colloquially sometimes referred to as the "Alien Hunters," is one of the three primary sub-divisions or "Ordos Majoris" of the powerful and secretive organisation known as the Inquisition
>Its purpose is to protect the Imperium of Man from all internal and external threats caused by intelligent alien species or their influence upon Humans.
I'll give you that the gay knights are fucking gay though, but the deathwatch is not better
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Is Tides of Numenera any good? I never played Planescape Torment but liked Disco Elysium and I see the two get compared all the time.
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>>577663343
The one where she just lives in my room and makes me coffee seems pretty good desu
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>>577663551
literally all you said is based
total xeno death
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>>577663551
they just want more elf waifus and tau with huge tits its not hard to comprehend anon
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>>577626078
Just let it play out yourself and see how you like it
Don't let the autists on here give you preconceptions with their hive mind
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>>577663824
ofc you would reply to that in a new thread
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Deathwatch if pretty great if you love painfully unfunny regurgitated barely 40k related facebook memes
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>>577663551
Spess Muhreens are trash
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>>577663220
soon as I find a music video describing you as a black faggot, I will
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Reminder that if you romanced Yrliet you're a cuck

owlcat is full of cuck writers, every romance option from valerie to arue to yrliet cucks you in one way or the other

owlcuck writes for cucks and you're a cuck

DLC4 is gonna be a male eldar that happily fucks a fem RT tho
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>>577661872
I didn't want to discourage you, so that's why my answer was short. However, if you want the best possible ending with the most information possible, I hope you started your char with the max possible WIS, followed by 16 INT, and 13 CHR? Think that was the optimal distribution.
The best advice I can give you is to save the game before each conversation, you can try different dialog trees if you're enjoying reading them. Ultimately the philosophical stuff doesn't matter for the endings, that's YouTuber: "Planescape has very deep philosophy" crap.
It's a game about you, TNO, not necessarily Sigil or the planes, pick what feels right for you.
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>>577663763
are you fucking retarded?
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>>577664383
And this is why Kibellah is best girl.
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Which is the lamest Ordos of the Inquisition?
I think Malleus. Just cleaning up demonic shit all day every day.
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>>577664627
Ordo Sepulturum

literal janitors
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>>577663343
The one where you use the Happy Ending for Maive mod and she gets married, with your permission, to an officer and they live happily ever after
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>>577662546
That's a 10/10 in 40k
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>>577663004
Heinrix doesn't even do anything even slightly ordo xenos related lol. He spends the entire game investigating heresy and daemonic incursions. Making him an ordo xenos investigator was completely arbitrary. Same for Calcazar. I guess you could say that Calcazar is ordo xenos, because he's using xenos tech for greater good as opposed to chaos energies like they usually do
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>>577664383
>valerie to arue to yrliet
Didn't leave one out huh
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>>577663302
Donut steel alpha-level psykers are lame
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>>577665136
That's a 10/10 for me
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>>577665542
NO BUT MY SUPER OC IS SUPER SPECIAL HE CAN FIGHT A LORD OF CHANGE I SWEAR BECASE UH HE JUST CAN OKAY?
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>>577665653
>BECASE UH HE JUST CAN
Yes
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>>577665653
Ummm yes?
My operative bountyhunter RT with twin shuriken pistols is way cooler than your faggy biomancer executioner
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>>577664627
Out of the three big ones? Xenos is cringe and boring. Out of all the literally who smaller ordos? Who knows. There are way too many and we don't know anything about them
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Isn't the whole point of 40k creating an army of OCs that can kill a death squad of bloodthirsters and lords of change
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>>577664440
do you not know owlcats fanbase
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There should be a Swengoolie CRPG where you travel around various old horror movie themed dungeons and towns and romance Gwengoolie
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which rogue trader character would count the calories they eat every day?
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Which ordo does the most vagueposting?
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>>577665537
Who did Arue mindbreak? She's easily the most beloved romance in that game. If anything she mindbroke that one tranny that hates her with a passion and has come up with oddly detailed cuck scenarios revolving around her.
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>>577666093
You're clearly new here
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>>577666093
her original ending
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>>577666093
owlcuck fans want to be cucked so bad that they took arue ALSO having children with a fem protag to mean that arue gets impregnated by some rando even with a male protag

owlcucks cannot be helped
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>>577654537
reformed daemonette when?
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>NO BUT MY SUPER OC IS SUPER SPECIAL HE CAN FIGHT A LORD OF CHANGE I SWEAR BECASE UH HE JUST CAN OKAY?
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Yes my John Trader who is just a normal dude can oneshot a Lord of Change and kick Chaos Marines to death.
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>>577666093
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>>577665653
If your OC believes strongly enough that they can. That’s an actual mechanic of that universe.
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>>577666093
Arue was WotR's Yrliet. Camfags in particular (as you can see above) really have it out for her
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>>577666624
Our decked out Rogue Trader probably could kill a couple Space Marines pretty easily actually
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Doesn't Calligos one shot a Bloodletter during his little anime cutscene if you convince him to repent? The original Rogue Trader rulebook was just about having fun and Owlcat went with that. All this power level autism is dumb especially in a setting where rule of cool always wins out.
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>>577666093
This general is just borderline unusable anon
take nothing here seriously
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>>577666823
"Probably"? That's literally what you do in-game
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>>577666850
>>577666823
Rogue traders have enough archeo/xeno toys that they can do that shit on the regular
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>>577666624
i hate that this is the "canon" RT. he looks so goofy.
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Take the Jaepill
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>>577666896
Mechanically and with your party yeah. I'm talking like if someone were to write about your Rogue Trader getting jumped solo by a squad of Chaos Marines it'd be hard to justify the RT not just ripping through them anyway
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>playing wotr unfair
>beat vrock
>shield isn't there
FUCK

>>577654537
I love Valerie!
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>>577667179
neverr
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>>577667179
Bruh, I don’t know where that pill has been.
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>>577667586
Just checked wiki

"But be warned, summoning the Vrock will cause the bodies of the crusaders it kills temporarily unlootable, only engaging in combat with Vrock will make them lootable. This matters because their bodies and loot will despawn if you exit the location without attacking Vrock."

FUCK FUCK FUFSNVVNSVJ
I summoned him then left to do storyteller shit.
I make a backup before starting each act. So maybe I'll just redo the entire act.

Yes I'm that autistic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y84U12WkWMo
since were back to owlcat sperging, I heard this for the first time!
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>>577666064
None of them
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>>577666064
>counting calories
Just eat until you're not hungry anymore bro
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>>577667915
>Yes I'm that autistic.
Not particularly autistic. I usually just restart games. I've finished the entire act of dragon age 2 recently before restarting because that one chest only a rogue can open in the prologue really bugged me
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>ordo killum, ordo genocidium, ordo torturum, ordo infanticidium, ordo breakum everyum bonum
>no ordo rapum
why?
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>>577668572
Right
With the proviso that you ONLY eat when you're hungry
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>>577668572
I good way to get fat
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>>577666624
That's because he has the power of friendship
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>>577668572
fatty alert
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>>577668659
Guess I'll redo tower of estrod and do everything more or less in the same order. Just won't summon vrock. At least tower is very easy to cheese with invis potion
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>>577666064
Janris.
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>>577669680
The lardass High Factotum proudly accounts for every single calorie he consumes. He takes his meals in front of the peasants and shoots them when they ask for a tiny portion of the feast set out.
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>>577667179
drinking the blood of an indian homo would get you less disease
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evil pasqal be like: light is the tread of her heretics
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People weren't kidding when they said that the heretic playthrough in Rogue Trader was an afterthought.
They couldn't even be arsed to write ending slides for your retinue. You'd think Idira at least would get one especially when you can convince her to let the voices in, but no. I'll redo the fight tomorrow to check if the Nomos ending screws you out of slides.
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>>577670404
It has to be glitched. I’m sure there are ending slides for companions.
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>>577670404
That is why you wait for them to finish the game before playing it.
Most of us are waiting for the complete edition before diving in.
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I wanna smooch her.
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>>577670404
no shit it's an afterthought
every time videogames do "evil routes", unless the videogame itself is meant to be played as evil, it's always an afterthought meant to satisfy the "people" that are like "ughh why can't I KILL everyone bro this is so boring bro why do I have to be good in the story meant to be good?"
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>>577667015
Same. I don't like his beard
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>>577670659
I wanna stick my tongue into her crusty shithole.
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>>577670404
>You'd think Idira at least would get one especially when you can convince her to let the voices in, but no
That doesn't sound right. I'm sure she has ending slides. I know Abelard has a heretic slide
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The Heretical playthrough is hilarious.
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why are camfags into cuckoldry and scat
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>>577671391
They like a cannibal serial killer, you think it's odd they have weird fetishes?
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Anons I finished act 1 and Kibellah never appeared
Why?
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>>577671810
Turn on the DLC dummy
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>>577671919
It's already on, it's always been on
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>>577672092
Yeah well, the death cultists are supposed to trigger while you're moving your ship in act 1, it's unmissable, so I don't know
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>>577671810
A new DLC means a whole new slew of glitches.
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>>577672250
Nothing happened
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>>577672310
Did you visit every location in Act 1? Planet, space station, prison moon?
Are you sure act 1 is over? Act 2 starts when you escape Rykad and emerge near Footfall Station in the Furibundus system
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>finally get the ricochet augment
>the deviation is so strong it literally bounces across the map to kill idira, kibbellah and pasqual
Well there goes that idea. I guess the only "safe" way to use it if you go full iconoclast for that final perk that makes your retinue immune to friendly fire.
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>>577672310
She joins after you clear navigator station, so if you went there last, she'll only join before the final stretch of act 3 - the attack on and enshittening of rykad minoris
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>>577675476
>final stretch of act 3
Act 1*
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>>577674634
>>577675476
I did everything Act 1 has to offer. The vox lady never warned me, no cutscene ever played.
I'm right now escaping Rykad Minoris. I hope that when the jump happens it'll happen, or else my game is bugged.
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>>577675891
Yeah sounds like a bug. I always pick her up right after recruiting Cassia.
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>>577675891
Very odd. Either a bug, or she'll appear once you get to Footfall
If you don't get her and you choose to replay Act 1, it won't take too long
Otherwise I'm sure there's a way to trigger her using Toybox
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>>577675891
better write a report. double check if the mod is installed on the main menu
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>>577676251
>>577676000
I tried to look this up but no dice, no idea what to trigger.
I sure hope she shows up in act 2. I don't wanna replay the intro.
>>577676278
I can't write a report.
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>>577675426
Gotta be honest: none of the augments really seem worth the downsides.
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>>577676389
lmao check if you downloaded the right torrent
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>>577677319
Yeah latest one in cs rin ru.
Very strange DESU
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Any crpg with a femboy that I can romance?
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>>577676389
>I can't write a report.
Based Blackbeard
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>>577678789
no faggot
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>>577675891
Did you try just running your ship in circles for a bit to see if you missed anything
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>>577676389
Where did you get the game? Imma be honest with you - the russian torrent sites have never let me down, I don't use anything else.
Is the dlc installed even? Do you have access to the new archetypes? Have you gone to the comm station in the rykad system that's all fucked up with warp (not the navigator station) - the one where everything is resolved through text?
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>>577678789
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>>577676638
The dogmatic arms looks bitching. I use it for fashionmaxxing, The galvanic implant that does aoe lightning damage is also very powerful, albeit dangerous
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>>577678789
No, unless you really want to stretch the dfinition of femboy
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>>577679260
not a femboy if you look his hands and jawline
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>>577679026
I tried everything: running around in circles, landing on every planet and then leaving, progressing a little then going back to the void ship. Nothing works. I kinda don't even wanna do all of Footfall without knowing whether it'll start the damn quest or not.
>>577679124
I got it from cs rin ru, so yeah 100% russian.
The DLC is installed and enabled on my save as you can see here. I have access to blade dancer and everything.
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>>577679586
Ok hang on I'm looking at toybox now
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>>577676638
The one that literally just boosts your weapons? The one that lets you use stims for free? The icono one that buffs your party every time you use a buff? The ones that give you free constant cover that works with talents? The absurd eye lasers?
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>>577679715
>use stims
Who the fuck does that lol
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Dark Heresy UI for Rogue trader patch fucking when? I can't go back to that 1993 horizontal dialogue ui after playing the beta
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>>577679586
Ok I'm looking at for the relevant etude
Go into Toybox, choose the Etudes tab, and select "All" on the left. Search for kibellah, like so, and you should get something like this. Try starting the etude Timer_KibellahIntroduction and see what happens.
There's also one just called Kibellah which could be worth a try. But my money is on Timer_KibellahIntroduction
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Just got a steam controller, which CRPGs should I play with it?
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>>577679817
It's a free attack with no downside
Actually worth it now unless you're a hoarder degenerate
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>>577679958
It already exists as a mod. I've been using it constantly.
Sometimes though the window appears blank, but you can make the text appear by rolling your mouse scrollwheel.
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>>577679985
what the fuck
it's already started
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>>577680272
Hmm. Is the Kibellah etude also started?
Try starting IntroductionReminder
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>>577680141
>hoarder degenerate
Not a hoarder, I'm just saving all the items for the moment I need them
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>>577680027
I was thinking of getting one. I use a gulikit at the moment and I'm happy with it but if/when it breaks I'll probably get the steam one.

bg3 has the best controller support by far. It's all very intuitive and it's actually even better in some regards such as movement with the analogue stick. In order to have WASD movement you need to install a mod. The search feature that brings up a list of every intractable object around you is also so convenient, moreso that clicking on everything with a cursor. They really nailed controller support.
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>>577680378
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>>577680272
Also, do Janris Danrok and Jocasta Sauerback have portraits? And is there the Infernus Master Einrich Monteg present at the front of the bridge? Because all of that is DLC stuff too. I'm wondering if the entire DLC 1 is not working for you.
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>>577680351
Yeah, tried that, nothing.
I have a save just before Cassia, I'm gonna try that and see if it fires this time, if not it's over.
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>>577680378
Thank you for consistently being the best poster here, perhaps the only good one. I like that you post thoughtful things actually related to the topic at hand instead of repeating meme language all day and acting like a fat faggot. Yes, I'll try BG3 with it.
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>>577680538
amazing
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>>577680498
That's very strange. Hope your goth knaifu appears this time bro
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>>577680272
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>>577680494
>Janris Danrok
He always had a portrait
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>>577680494
Yes, every one of those is there.
>>577680645
I hope so too, this is really strange.
>>577680662
I'm gonna try too.
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>>577680842
Have you got Solomourne introduction while exploring Rykad? Or the Sector Biologis on your ship? If not, then it's probably an overall dlc problem
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>>577680494
No the base game gave them portraits now. I know cause I replayed without any dlc installed.
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Pirates are chaotic evil and deserve to not have their game work desu
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>>577680447
Based
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What's really stopping Owlcat from making their own Baldur's Gate 3 quality game? They have money now, Larian went from kickstarter begging to Lae'zel in three games. Kingmaker, Wrath, Rogue Trader, it's past time.
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>>577681267
Talent
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Oh my God it just fucking fired in my old save.
You wanna know what it is? It is the fact that there are so many fucking events between Cassia and the prison planet (Cassia in the officer room, Abelard's retarded lieutenant) that I managed to get to the planet before it decided to fire up. I literally just had to fuck around more on the space tab.
It's literally a "you walked too fast, got to the event too quick and missed the conversation" situation, holy shit.

>>577680985
Solomourne's dozen *teleports behind you and saves you* events have happened without fail, and the Sector Bionica is there too.
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Bro was retarded all along
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Alright
Any reason NOT to buy this?
No, I dont plan on playing 1 since it's missing voices and not as wellreviewed and I believe 2 has the ability to set your world state from 1 anyway
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>>577681267
They are trying, see Expanse.
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What are some of the better crpgs released around the 00's? My shitty laptop can't run anything from like Divinity onwards
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>>577681569
That's not fair
It's not my fault the game doesn't give itself enough time to do all the shit it's got
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>>577681627
Play Underrail you can definitely run that
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>>577681574
no buy it post about it here
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>>577681267
>They have money now
They don't
Also >>577681363
A BG3 by Owlcat would be even more buggy than act 3 was on release
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I'm thinking about giving Dragon Age Origins another go. Last time I played I remember having to drop the game after the mage tower since enemies were scaling in such stupid ways. I still have nightmares of the tower and of the dumb demon maze. Everyone always talks the game up though, it makes me feel like I'm missing something
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>>577681762
>post about it here
Wont get any replies unless its Owlkek garbage
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>>577682183
patience maybe my nigga
also a good build
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>>577682183
>I'm missing something
Yeah the mod to skip that part
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>>577681574
>Any reason NOT to buy this?
You'd be giving money to microshart
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>>577682243
Yes but its something else
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>>577681574
>Any reason NOT to buy this?
aren't most of you broke?
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>>577682183
>Everyone always talks the game up though
It's baby's first crpg for people born in the 90s and baby's first waifu.
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I wish my gpu fans didn't go at a thousand rpm whenever I fire up this ugly looking game
Rape everyone who worked in Unity
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>>577682610
>this ugly looking game
Which one? There are so many
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>>577682718
Warhammer™ 40,000™: Rogue™ Trader™
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>>577682921
I think it looks good. If you want an actual ugly game look no further than DAO and DA2
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>>577683012
awful censor, I can still read your name
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I had forgotten about Kibbles' discord kitten voice
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>>577683012
Your name is still readable and I can see the avatar. You can be easily doxxed now, bro
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>>577681574
Play the first game and learn to read
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>>577683115
>discord kitten voice
deep and obviously a man?
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>>577683329
no I want voice acting
fuck you
im buying 2
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>>577683339
No, retarded and sounding as if she can barely read the script
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>>577683115
am I a good girl domin?
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There is a /crpgg/ discord
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>>577684046
Go there and stay there.
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>>577659317
having high wisdom and int is more important for your ending options than anything else
theres at least one ending that I remember that requires you talk to someone and get something, but you'll either find them or you won't, so dont worry about it too much
unironically just follow your own path
minor spoiler do go back and get the brass sphere when you can though
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>>577683810
kinda would make me hard
kibellah is pretty cute, shame she's in the same game as my actual canonical wife or else i'd romance her
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>>577662798
>If you mean crpg wise, because you never get to interact with your deity
are there any games that avert this
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>>577663004
I'm not surprised that xenos won, but who the fuck would vote hereticus over malleus
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>>577684473
Me. I love detective stories
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>>577684307
you call her a good girl in act 3 I think it was
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>>577684719
no way
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>>577683339
>>577683458
The fuck?
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>>577684764
I never did it but I saw the dialogue
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>>577683458
>retarded and sounding as if she can barely read
ah, 4chan voice
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>>577681460
Owljank coding strikes again
At least you got her in the end, well done.
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think I've nearly depopulated the Umpani outpost, so I can't imagine I have any chance of getting back on their good side, but well, fuck em
I tried diplomacy and bribes early game, but it evidently wasn't enough to get a foot in the door
hopefully it hasn't pissed off the blonde chick though
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>>577683115
Ra'akhti does it better
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>>577688384
Only problem is that she's ugly as sin
Unless they include a pretty party member, DH will actually be the first CRPG I don't romance anyone in
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>>577681460
That's really bad programming. They do rely a bit too much on these gimmicky timed events to advance the plot. It would make more sense to just get a quest "Attend the homage ceremony from the Death Cult" and you just go to the officers deck to meet Kibellah whenever you want.
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>>577688618
I appreciate the ambition but yeah it's poorly thought out.
Or at least they should make a way to "manually" advance time for these sorts of sidequests.
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>>577684473
I do, I want the Inquisition to kill all Marines, only chaos should get chaos marines, they're mutants and a mistake.
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>>577684473
I would, because Hereticus can investigate all sorts of interesting and varied heresies. Malleus is just one demon after another.
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>>577688791
Based.
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>>577688530
Thankfully they’re making DH for people with good taste
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>>577688890
The only correct opinion in this thread
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>>577680538
this comes off as insincere if you reply this to a random post that isn't particularly impressive by namefag standards
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>>577688890
Malleus also investigates unexplainable phenomena like time-travel.
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>>577689540
>post that isn't particularly impressive by namefag standards
can still be impressive by the standards of this retarded brown shithole
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why did owlcat feel the need to add
>and then she fucked lots of men
to two of camellia's romanced endings specifically
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>>577690156
Degeneracy.
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>>577690156
so that when the cute blonde girl in the expanse tells you all about her previous black boyfriend mid-romance scene it won't come off as a surprise
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>>577689621
Sounds wrong. There's Ordo Chronos that deals with time travelling shenanigans
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anyone have that yrliet pic where she's holding the hand of a monkey
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>>577688791
BASED
FUCK ADEPTUS ASTARTES, OR AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM: MUTANTS
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>>577688164
Diplomacy, bribes and moods were a massive mistake in 7.
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>>577690652
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>>577689621
My time machine works in a completely natural scientific way. No warp or chaos needed
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>>577690851
Ordo Chronos is a ordo minoris of the ordo majoris Ordo Malleus.
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>>577691190
Sounds like tech heresy.
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honestly living in the imperium sounds like it sucks
I get pissy when I get a headache that lasts more than 10 minutes and here is this guy in my bridge saying that he's had a permanent headache because he hasn't slept in decades
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>>577688164
>hopefully it hasn't pissed off the blonde chick though
The rider? What does she have to do with it?
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I'm not surprised xenos won. One of the interesting things about 40k is that they have a lot of wacky aliens. From a mainstream person's perspective, yeah I want to see all the wacky aliens.

But the other two can provide just as interesting stories and any are fine for a videogame. Deamons causing trouble in the name of chaos is Malleus, humans causing trouble in the name of chaos or just apostasy in general is hereticus, and xenos causing trouble in any form is xenos. Sometimes they get to overlap and work together, such is the case with chaos worshiping xenos, or a deamon is the source of a large scale corruption cult and an ordo hereticus and an ordo malleus inquisitor cross paths.

The holy ordos genuinely are one of the coolest parts of 40k and I'm glad they're the focus of the next game. Dark Heresy was always my favorite ttrpg, and there are several to choose from so that's not nothing.

Hopefully owlcat doesn't do their usual masturbatory power fantasy they've done in all their other games and they actually convey the intended tone of dark heresy which is that you are a bottom rung acolyte who is entirely expendable and you're just trying to get the job done and survive. The alpha/beta has made me pretty optimistic in this regard, lots of people laughed in your face when you flashed the rosette and people tried to kill you some of the time for doing it as well. The game is very, very good so far based on what we've seen. I am pretty happy with the way owlcat has been handling the franchise.
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>>577691317
Not anymore :)
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>>577691361
>40k
>wacky aliens

They’re mostly just a bunch of standard fantasy races with a thin sci-fi paint job.
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>>577691361
>wordswordswords
Do you think Disco-chan is cute
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>>577691361
I like the Ordo Malleus because they've got the biggest potential for corruption. Xenos is okay, but I feel people don't realize they do more killing aliens than "talking to" aliens, if their aim was "see the wacky aliens."
Hereticus is just the most basic one and yeah it's fun but Malleus does their thing but more fun IMO.
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>>577691361
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What the fuck is the Halo Zone
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>>577691585
>They’re mostly just a bunch of standard fantasy races
they are, which confuses me why 40sloppers take it so seriously
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>>577692163
In real life the Halo Stars are the very old stars that surrounded the Galaxy in a roughly spherical distribution. In 40k, the Imperium has trouble reaching them because they're too far from Terra so the astronomican guide signal is weak, and they are the home of strange and sinister alien powers
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>>577692163
The place where even the navigators can't really see where they're going because E-money's light dims since they're so far away. Since it's uncharted, there's tons of alien goodies and unknown shit.
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These poor little things. Are Mole Crickets the black sheep of the critters? I believe so.
They're so easy compared to everything else and unlike, let's say Rathounds or Azuridae, don't even have any other variants that I can remember.
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Put up with her entire retard antics and "romance" just to get hit with the "you're one of the good ones" and she still struggles not to call you a slur. Amazing.
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>>577691125
>Diplomacy, bribes and moods were a massive mistake in 7.
one of those things I like the idea of but the execution feels haphazard. Presumably the fact that I started with the Dark Savant was the big issue, but that feels kind of hamfisted given it was based on an ending in 6 that has little context even at the time
>>577691357
its probably nothing but the umpani have the xeno rocketeer units with them sometime which have the same model as the blonde chick, so I'm not sure if she's in an allied faction or something
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>>577692709
we told you she's awful a billion times
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>>577692365
Does Chaos fuck around out there or do even they not want to get near it? It's cool that there are mysteries in 40k still that can't be explained by one of the major factions being behind it, like the Tyrant Star that's going to be in DH
>>577692438
>there's tons of alien goodies and unknown shit.
I would not touch that fucking Halo thing you get in RT with a 10 foot pole
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>>577692709
Based, mon-keigh need to know their place.
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>>577692709
Ummmmmmmmmmmm sorry??? Only my based faction is allowed to be racist?? Apologize right NOW.
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>>577692709
The fucking Drukhari is more polite and open-minded than her. We get the single most autistic Aeldari in the galaxy on our crew.
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>>577692907
>I would not touch that fucking Halo thing you get in RT with a 10 foot pole
Why not anon? It's just a little device, what's the worst that could happen?
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>>577692907
The Halo Device is NOT WORTH IT
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>>577692907
>Halo device
Just give it to Jimmy
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>>577693047
Anon Yrliet is abundantly tolerant for an Aeldari, and Marzipan is abundantly nice for a Drukhari.
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>>577693218
>Yrliet is abundantly tolerant for an Aeldari
No she's not lmao. Did you play the DH beta? The Aeldari companion in that game is a bit condescending as usual but is a million times more palatable than Yrlliet.
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>>577693404
No I haven't played the beta.
To be honest I'm not really interested in him either. Aeldari should always be female.
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>>577693182
While I would not touch let alone use the Halo device I also really relate to Trazyn's desire to own every shiny thing he finds just to put it on display. It's a real problem in CRPGs since, if an item's named or special in any way I want to keep it and it takes up inventory space and costs me the money I could have had selling it
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>>577692930
We already know our place is at the top of the pecking order. Now go back to slobering over slaanesh cock or whatever it is you do in your free time
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unlike the umpani npc, this guy only took one truce to become available for conversation
rats > rhinos
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>>577693663
you have me confused with your mother
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>>577693798
>Ratsputin
cute
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>>577693182
>give
>find a halo device
>immediately try to put it on
>Jimmy yanks it out of my hand while lauging in my rogue trader face
>reload the game
>wait till I'm back on my ship
>alone in my bathroom at last
>try to put it on
>jimmy pulls his best teleports behind u impression
>I'll be taking that, rogue trader
>mfw
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>1250 hours in rogue trader
>latest 80 or so since dlc3
>beat the game to death so hard that i'm thinking about dark heresy and quickly losing interest
what have i done
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>>577670671
bad games do this
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>>577695302
Play dark heresy beta instead. It's much better than rogue trader
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>>577695302
Yeah I did several playthroughs and I think I shouldn't have done this current one. Not that Eogunn is bad or anything but doing a whole playthrough for each dlc was just a bit much. I could have combined 3 and 4 and done one for 4 when it comes out. Since I'm going to do a final one for 4 anyway. That would have given me these past couple weeks to just catch up on other games.

But the upside is that 4 won't be playable for a while (since you give owlcat a few weeks after release to actually make it playable) so it's a long ways off with that in mind.
And when a game clicks with you, playing it several times works. I lost track of the number of times I've replayed kotor1/2.

I can't say whether I'm more excited for dark heresy or divinity, I'm just happy as a clam with thee two awesome games coming.
I don't care about Exodus at all since everything we've seen just makes it look worse than mass effect, and Expanse could go either way since we don't know much but the alpha was fine.
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>>577695854
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>>577695302
Another dlc is coming lmao. And fags here want MORE rt dlc
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>>577696217
Just have some restraint lmao
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>>577696217
I actually don't. Despite all rt dlcs being very good, they don't fix the game itself, they just add mostly unneeded bloat
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>>577696369
I agree
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>>577654827
>Expeditions: Viking
>0
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>>577696369
No Owlcat DLC fixes their games.
DLC should ALWAYS either fix problems and holes that the base game has, or add post-ending content. No Owlcat DLC does this.
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A dance with rogues
47
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>>577695854
>but the alpha was fine
come on
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>>577663071
Ordo Malleus has some of the most interesting philosophies, they get up to interesting things, and their Inquisitors tend to be the personally strongest ones amongst the Ordos
Ordo Xenos has most of the most level-headed Inquisitors, they get to interact with Xenos races, and they're trying to deal with the Tyranids, who are imo the most imminent existential threat to the whole galaxy
Ordo Hereticus is just the place where all überzealots and zealot-haters go to mingle. They're easily the most boring one imo, mostly due to how their job is essentially to just stop another Vandire from happening
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>>577697187
he's a proud consoomer
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>for your initiation into this death cult you will... stand underneath a waterfall of blood made from unpreserved corpses
man they really make it easy for nurgle huh
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>>577697834
It might not be perfect, but it's the best system we have
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Why can't I just Raise Dead Cam's victims so she gets her kicks with no loss of life it's a win-win
Actually why can't I Raise Dead important NPCs who die
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>>577699101
enough about froggy
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>>577692709
Humans in 40k are brainwashed idiots, so having to prove you're an exception makes sense
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>>577699751
Raise dead, resurrection, and all that jazz are spells that only exist for gameplay purposes.
Lorewise it's always ignored. Death is permanent. Unless the DM needs it to not be.
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>>577699751
For normal people, a diamond is prohibitively expensive. Working class people can't just raise grandpa because a diamond is magnitudes greeter than even their annual salary.

As for our player characters who throw around millions of gold or the crusade's resources, the second part of the spell comes into play: the soul has to be willing. If a knight commander lets their serial killer girlfriend loose on the people he's supposed to be protecting, then it stands to reason some souls would just say no fuck you and not want to come back to fight alongside your spineless ass who goes around reviving people Cam kills instead of just stopping Cam. You have failed a character test in their eyes and they don't want anything to do with you.

When neither of these suffice, because you're rich and the soul does want to come back, then it's simply a matter of not every gameplay convention needs to make sense when discussing story. It's the same reason you can get shot 100 times in gameplay but then suddenly one bullet is lethal in cutscenes. Some things need to exist for the sake of it being a game, and the audience suspends their disbelief. A good, well written piece of media will ask the audience to suspend their disbelief as little as possible, but dnd/pathfind are just games at the end of the day so they do ask for suspension of disbelief.

>>577697187
Yeah. It's just a very safe mass effect clone with less fantasy elements. It's not going to be a blockbuster but if you like mass effect it'll be fine. Expanse is a fine book/show and it has room for space exploration and maybe the plot will be good. So yeah, it was "fine", and I'm looking forward to playing it so I can offer a proper review, which is how I approach every game.

Exodus is also a mass effect clone, but it looked stupid.
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>>577699751
It's really understated just how obnoxious this type of criticism is
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>>577700586
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>>577700642
why?
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>>577700859
NTA but it's the equivalent of "why didn't the eagles just carry the ring lmao"
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>>577700586
the threads were nice with you gone
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>>577701057
link the last time you talked about games in this thread
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>>577701007
which is bad why?
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>>577663241
I wonder why GW doesn't pick up what people put down and put Xenos more into the spotlight
they really love their space marines
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>>577702034
Because unfortunately the majority of their audience just wants several different colours of space marine
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>>577702034
because marines sell the most by far
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>>577670659
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>>577702034
Because you are a loud and very obnoxious minority. There are plenty of other settings that use aliens more actively. But no, instead of enjoying those settings you had to barge into the one that uberfocuses on humans and demand that more attention is paid to xenos. And when told to fuck off you cry persecution. Unironic troon behaviour, kill yourself
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I like the Imperial Guard :D
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>>577692907
>Does Chaos fuck around out there or do even they not want to get near it?
It's left pretty vague, but it's implied to be a mixed bag of all sorts of warp horrors, evil aliens, and secretive powers of all kinds. Possibly even remnant humans from the dark age of technology still live there with all of their tech intact.
It's meant to be a general purpose Deadly Unknown Region for tabletop DMs to make use of.
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>>577703375
Uh oh marinebab melty
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>>577702034
>elves in space lmao
>orksin space and they talk like funny island people lmao
>bugs in space lmao
Wow, such interesting aliens. Tau are the only actually interesting ones but you don't care about them, you just want disgusting titcow porn
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>>577703409
Huh?
Oh you mean the Astra Militarum
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>>577692907
>It's cool that there are mysteries in 40k still
That's only until gw decides it wants more money. Enjoy it while it lasts. I still remember when horus heresy was just a mysterious footnote in army books
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>>577703375
>There are plenty of other settings that use aliens more actively
Such as?
Humans are the absolute focus of all space crpg settings.
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>>577703582
you're just mad the latest trailer gave us two seconds of aeldari and ZERO Tau
keep getting cucked, Tauists
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>>577701007
no, the eagles really should have carried them and any argument to the contrary is always retarded
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>>577703701
Latest trailer of what lol? I don't watch trailers
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>>577703739
retard
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>>577703834
whoops, meant for the dumb faggots who can't comprehend flying and speed, my bad >>577703739 you're totally right as usual
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>>577703739
The eagles didn't carry frodo to Mordor because airspace over mordor is heavuly taxed and the eagles didn't have the money to pay the toll. This problem could have been easily sovlable if only the eagle king had a viable tax policy
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>>577703739
the argument is always muh nazgul like they werent attacking on the ground too, like the eagles cant defend themselves, like there wasn't a literal army there
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>>577703739
It does seem like a good idea to hand the ring to sentient giant super eagles I'm sure nothing would go wrong
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who tf calls them aeldari
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>>577703739
THE RING HAS THE POWER TO CORRUPT EVERYONE YOU DUMB FAGGOT THATS WHY GANDALF EXPLICITLY REFUSES TO CARRY IT
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>>577704183
so have them carry the hobbits retard, it also needs time to work and wouldn't be half as corrupting if they used the transportation option that gets there in a day vs a year long hike
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She's my best friend
I'm going Legend this route and I'm kind of in choice paralysis. I'm definitely taking Bloodrager to 20 but I don't know what to do beyond it, I haven't done Legend before. I want a full BAB class to get 100 swings a turn but I also kind of want something different mechanically like Sneak Attack or some spells. Though Fighter 20 will be pretty hilarious since I can just take every feat in the game
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>tranime avatar
>camfag
goes together like piss and shit
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>>577703767
40k in general
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0hD3KBwoiA
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>>577704345
its from a fighting game, get some culture
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>tranime avatar from a fighting game
it just gets worse and worse, you might as well have aids
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>>577704387
>>577704492
I kind of wish I was using Siegfried still, he fits the giant 2 hander barbarian thing that I've turned into better but it's not worth wasting one of my respecs just for a portrait change
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>>577694028
Yrliet also makes you throw it away
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>>577704263
>I also kind of want something different mechanically like Sneak Attack or some spells
slayer
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>>577704263
What weapon are you using?
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>>577704948
Greatswords, though that might change if I find a better 2 hander. I was eyeing up Elven Curved Blades since I got a decent one from the Kaylessa quest and it has a huge crit range. I also have Grave Singer so axes are on my radar too. I was using a glaive but it fucked up my bite attacks because of the extra reach
>>577704882
Yeah I completely forgot about them. I'll add them to the list with Fighter, Paladin, and Thug. I'm tempted by Eldritch Knight but looking at it it doesn't really offer me anything a level 20 in another class wouldn't.
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>>577704250
Oh great the eagles just bisected frodo because the funny ring whispered to them
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>Muh eagles in 2026
Get new material
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>>577700859
It's always just retards being deliberately obtuse or refusing to actually engage with the material because they can't see fiction as anything other than a list of epic wiki worldbuilding facts and tropes.
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What was Theodora's tax policy?
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Ok, so Danrok manages your protectorate, he also acts as your HR. I thought that was the job of a senechal. Wtf does Abelard actually do?
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>>577704851
you can get toybox to change it
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>>577692907
>>577703436
Also, the Koronus Expanse extends into the nearest parts of Halo Stars, which is why we encounter a Halo Device. But we don't really get to explore very far.
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>>577705771
Yeah idk, it seems like Abelard's responsibilities are just onboard the ship. Like he's the first officer.
Danrok seems far more important.
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>>577705771
iirc Danrok mentions that when Theodora went on her long journeys away from the Protectorate, Abelard was essentially acting as her regent and handling most of her responsibilities
He seems to bascially be our butler, first officer, and potential substitute
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>>577705837
>Heinrix stammers
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>>577705506
It's a setting that has resurrection magic. You're not allowed to solve problems with resurrection magic because the writers didn't want to consider it. How is that not a perferctly reasonable complaint?
Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magicka Obscura has a spell that lets you speak with the dead, and basically every quest-important NPC has unique dialogue if you kill them and cast it. This should be a basic expectation for every game with necromancy.
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>>577704879
finally something we can all stand united against
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>>577703739
I blame Christopher Tolkien, for not pointing it out before the book went to print.
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>>577706074
It's also often even more annoying because the setting DOES have an explanation for these autistic nitpicks but they'll still refuse to hear it.
>their soul doesn't want to come back
>pharasma doesn't want them to come back that way
>it was too late because it just was
or the actual reality
>this is a gameplay mechanic and it makes the story less interesting if we use it that way
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The only reason the plan works is because Frodo and Same are little unimposing sneaky guys. If a flight of eagles tried to fly to Mordor, the Eye of Sauron would instantly be on them. The Nazgul would intercept them, and the eagles would die along with the hobbits riding on their backs. The Ring would fall to the earth and be in the hands of the Nazgul within an hour.

It's the same reason the armies of men, dwarves, and elves don't just unite and march the ring into Mordor, the eye would see that and there would be a big battle that the alliance is not guaranteed to win.

The reason Gandalf doesn't just magic it into Mt Doom is because, in his great wisdom, he knows that he shouldn't even touch it. He's wise enough to know that he's not wise enough to withstand the temptation, which is the coolest character trait ever. Gandalf is not a mary sue despite being a literal demigod angel alien wizard thing, and that's the coolest thing ever to pull that off. Tolkien is timeless for a reason.

Galadriel had to pass the same test, and she almost fails. She also could have destroyed it, but at the last second she catches herself and remembers that it's best she not even touch it. Another character whos wisdom was great enough to know they're not that wise. I could go on forever about how good this theme is.

The only reason the stealth plan even works is because Aragorn and everyone else makes a fake attack on the black gate which drew the eye's attention. It was a joint effort from everyone to even make the stealth plan work.

This is all straight from Tolkien, there was never any eagle plot hole in the original work, people just don't use common sense to realize the eagles can't stealth and that a combination of distraction and stealth is the only reason any of this works. It's pretty funny how many people over the years thought themselves clever but this was never a plot hole.

luv lotr
luv Tolkien
Simple as.
And what perfect timing, since I've been playing WitN.
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>>577706815
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>>577699751
>>577706396
Not everyone can be as autistic about their writing as Umberto Eco
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>>577706815
HOLY AUTISM and not a crpg
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>>577706815
I appreciate your posts, and that you continue to make an effort here even after it has become clear that no effort is warranted. You're as a drink of cold water in a hot desert.
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>>577704101
I do. I also call Pluto a dwarf planet.
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>>577706815
based lorefag
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>>577703679
>Such as?
Mass Effect
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>>577707320
>I also call Pluto a dwarf planet.
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>>577707284
thank you me!
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>>577703739
Eagles can be corrupted by the ring and Mordor has fel beasts, nazgul, balistae, archers, magic corruption and other shit. They wouldn't let them just go in. The mission required stealth.
People making this argument just ignore the ring's influence and that Mordor has stuff that can deal with air incursions.
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Why didn't Gandalf use a drone to carry the ring to Mt Doom?
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Why didn't the Emperor simply shoot Horus
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>>577706815
Sam was able to resist the ring
He's the actual mary sue of LotR
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ugebzq3juE&t
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Why don't you guys just get a gf
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she let me when I told her to dress like yrliet
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>>577700586
>For normal people, a diamond is prohibitively expensive.
An 18th-level Witch can cast Resurrection once per day with no material component.
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>>577707629
That's because Sam is simple minded and lacks imagination. He has no dreams and no ambition, so the ring can't offer him anything he doesn't already have
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>>577707924
I would not interact with an 18th level Witch
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>>577707629
Correct. Both Gollum and Frodo fail the test at the end. The world is only saved by the most humble of men, whose one and only aspiration was to return home bang Rosie Cotton. A humble man completely undravels Sauron's plan, because the plan relied on the hubris of mortals. It was only through a pure heart and humble aspirations of an intrinsically good man that the world is saved. Not strength of arms, not magic, not cleverness.

Absolut kino as the kids say.
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>>577707924
You won't be lvl 18 yet by the time camelia's deception is uncovered
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>>577708097
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>>577707938
>Take this power for your own and you shall be the greatest... gardener? Who wants to be a gardener, what is wrong with you
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>>577708043
People are so untrusting these days
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I used to not put a lot of stock in Use Magic Device but ever since I put Sosiel to work making Eaglesoul scrolls every rest I think it's the most important skill in the game next to Perception
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Sam wasn't humble, he was just so slave minded that his great ambition was a garden, and so weak that he couldn't be made into anything worthwhile even with the ring. Other worms often mistake this worm-like existence for virtue.
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>>577709182
t.
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>>577709182
t. crab in a bucket
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Why didn't Sam and Frodo kiss?
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>>577709182
t. Sauron (seethron)
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Wait what about Kenabres you're just going to fucking leave it with no defenses? I haven't even cleared out the demon armies down there yet
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This isn't as cool as the glowing green Necron pyramid but at least it's something. I was afraid Angel wouldn't give me anything to Drezen
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>>577709397
It's certainly an odd choice, but I think the armies we see aren't most of the time supposed to be representations of where demon armies actually are according to the story
First time I'm seeing Hulrun in Drezen, he is yet to survive Kenabres in my playthroughs. If he's dead, the leader of the Desnans can also bring you the wardstone, provided it survived
>>577709919
Sadly I don't think it's unique to Angel, as I had it in my city when playing as an Azata
I think whether or not it comes to Drezen depends on what you choose to do about it when storming the Grey Garrison
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>>577709397
It doesn't need to be physically in Kenabras, and the protection it offers is probably looked upon as less important given that they had a wardstone and Deskari still fucked them in the ass
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>>577710063
You missed out on him kissing your ass as an azata
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>>577710634
Hulrun kisses your ass if you an Azata? I assumed he'd despise me, since his schizobabble was refuted by a Desna worshipper
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>>577707923
>dark pants
>dark top
>oversized jewel
>green autism overcoat
>high ponytail
Sounds like a pretty decent outfit
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is nenio's quest in act 5 worth doing at all. i honestly don't care anymore
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>>577712393
It's great if you want to end your playthrough
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>>577712393
Absolutely not
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>>577709182
Is this one of them Twatter Neutscheshchechse larpers dem kids talk about
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I doubt ALL drow are evil
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>>577712729
>>577712751
okay I will skip it
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>>577713382
Dzzirt isn't, but he's also a mary sue
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>>577713382
I don't know why people treat this like a debate when they've existed for the majority of FR's existence
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>>577713382
Underdark 4x crpg political intrigue kino when?
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Whats the deal with Minthara schizo?
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>>577709182
His muh master mindset is pretty lame
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>>577708227
He did contemplate making Mordor into his giant garden
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Is Baldur's Gate 3 really justified in having gb weight equivalent of three Original Sins 2 in any way?
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>>577663317
>Ordo Xenos is literally meant to kill Xenos
True but most of the Inquisitors that deflected were from ordo xenos with a hybris influence. Ordo xenos just allowed more radical doors to be open since it implies learning about xenos. Sympathy and empathy could easily develop from that.
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>12k gold for one of these
Hold on... what's stopping me from just crafting an infinite number of these and making more money than I could ever need
>>577712393
You get to fight Nyarlathotep
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whoa is that a timely Attack on Titan reference
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>>577716418
All the animations are probably the reason for that
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Really like Lex's main theme. So heavy
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>>577716739
Never even occured to me. Maybe you're just a weeb
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Is this Souls reference in my game
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>>577712393
You get a crystal out of it, if you go for the secret ending and depending on your Path and who you want to ascend with you may end up needing it.
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>>577717202
Never even occured to me. Maybe you're just a nigger who loves to play shitty games
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>>577717271
You play owlcat games, you should be well acquainted with shitty games
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>>577717202
Is this real? Where?
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>>577717986
cave where you get Regill and his hell knights
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>>577707629
Sam is also only tested for a short time compared to Frodo who is under the grindstone a lot longer
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>>577712393
I just used a guide for it
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>>577719096
Same. I couldn't be bothered at that point. Would've preferred just to fight the boss without the back and forth in the dungeon
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Are the Inquisitors considered clergy? Can they take confessions?
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>>577719409
no
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>>577719409
They'll get a confession all right
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Yrliet
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If you were isekai'd into Rogue Trader as Yrliet what would you do?
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>really enjoyed BG3 and rogue trader on the hardest difficulty
>start Divinity OS 2 on tactician
>constantly having my ass handed to me
does it get easier after a bit or should i just restart on a lighter difficulty?
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>>577722924
its a game with the worst loot system ever which also requires you to constantly upgrade all items, DOS2 is a game. Before I started i thought i will mod and replay it multiple times but after finishing it once on normal i uninstalled and have no desire to ever touch it again.
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>>577722916
romance Marazhai and become a corsair, try to be less retarded and manipulate things to make ot so Pasqual doesn't kill me in the ending slides
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>>577682275
I can't imagine my build was that bad... I think I just went for a simple sword and board build. About as vanilla as it came.
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>>577682598
What would you say would be the zoomer CRPG? Alpha had BG3 but what did zoomers play in the genre?
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>>577724078
NTA, but I was born in 2002 and the first CRPG I played was D:OS2, so I suppose either that or something else that came out around that same time
Could be something else as well, I'm not exactly the chosen representative of my generation
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>>577684189
Yeah, I knew maxing wis and int was important. I do wonder how you're meant to pull off warrior or rogue builds in this game. You're so heavily incentivized to run high int and wis since dialogue options are a huge deal and mages are able to use charisma as a dump stat since friends is so good too. Playing as a fighter you're locking yourself out of a lot of dialogue and as a rogue you're pretty heavily reliant on the companions to carry you.
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i want to put my head between cassias thighs
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>>577723692
>romance Marazhai
>try to be less retarded
Pick one
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>>577722916
I'd tell Elantach what's going on instead of keeping secrets, so we could vaporize Marazhai from a safe distance instead of getting kidnapped
Then after many years of service I'd retire to Janus and life a quiet life
I still wouldn't let Elantach touch me because ew that's gross but he can pull my ponytail sometimes
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>>577724383
>I do wonder how you're meant to pull off warrior or rogue builds in this game
I really dont think there is any point. Though on the flipside I can't think of many times I felt like I ever needed another fighter or thief, the party can generally handle anything you run into. The only time I even remember thief mattering is you get a few extra dialogues with Annah where she can teach you things, or if your skills are high enough you can teach her.
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If you say "Aeldari", you are are raped. Sorry.
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>>577722916
I'd stay on janus with the other space elves and try to make friends with them
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>>577725201
It's fine. I can control him
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Why is everyone racist? I thought it was supposed to be a player only thing
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>>577716576
Materials don't respawn and besides, even without taking the cost of the materials and scroll scribling set, 12k gold per sale is not a lot of money. You can earn millions by just exploring and selling everything, Nenio's dungeon alone give 2.3 million GP in items. Gold stops being an issue at chapter 3.
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>>577725461
Aeldarian
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>>577722916
I'd xuckold the Ic9nocuck in ways that make the Drukhari look like goodie two shoes
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>>577722916
I'd be an absolutely colossal whore. Aeldari, mon-keigh, jokaero, male, female, Jae, I'd do them all.
Not elantach though. I wouldn't want to spoil our special connection.
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Why is the troon so defensive over the most retarded companion in the game.
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>>577654537
I love Valerie
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>>577727020
Typical Pasqals Troonster moment.
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>>577727020
Marajobber is a ftm
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>>577727020
Just a regular tranny who wants his boyhole blown out by Marazhai
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>>577727020
why are you on reddit
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>>577727247
i think its a transbian
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>>577727020
JackWhoWanders is getting reddit raped.
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>>577727353
A transbian would be male hating tho
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>>577727353
the rogue trader subreddit is full of them.
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>>577727982
How the fuck did a Russian company making games about a grim dark far future attract so many tumblr troons.
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Jaethal is making me think about new and exciting things...
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>>577727982
thats every gaming subreddit, interesting how trannies have the same interests as men
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>>577727982
no wonder you're there so often
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Any mods recommendation for Owlcat games?
QoL's, more companions banter or even new content, if there something like this for two Pathfinders/Rouge Trader.
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>>577728615
Space Combat mod which adds ship combat encounters as a possible warp event
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>>577728615
Besides Toybox I can't think of any notable ones. And yeah all three of their games have a toybox.
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>>577728615
Dark Heresy style vertical dialogue window
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>>577725843
>nooo why don't people like the hecking wholesome cannibal tribes and human sacrificing empires fucking racist spanish chuds
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>>577722924
D:OS2 is a lot about terrain and combinations, and funny stuff like teleporting enemies etc. So not like RT at all
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>>577728615
Toybox is a must
There are endings and romance mods of various quality
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>>577727982
This surprises you?
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I heard that Rouge Trader received its last DLC.
I always wait for the last dlc and most of the updates to be released before I touch Owlkek's games. Done that with both pathfinders and I don't regret it, considering I still encountered almost game breaking bugs and had to install cheats to get myself out of them.
So, is RT safe to play?
Tho, honestly I don't know if an rpg in WH40k universe would speak to me, comfy adventures innawoods (Kingmaker) and saving the world from demons with calm moments between them were right up my alley. But 40K? Not sure.
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>>577729021
>I heard that Rouge Trader received its last DLC.
Not yet
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>redditposter is back
slit your neck
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>>577728989
wow, no doubt in my mind that the resident namefag is a redditor now considering all those cross overs.
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>>577729021
1 more, September at the latest
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>>577681574
>>577683012
Emily...
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>>577728989
s*cialism, jrpg and girlsfrontline are significantly more disgusting than transgender
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>>577728989
What am I looking at here
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>>577728989
explain
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>>577728989
This makes so much sense. Though the gwent and total war seems out of place lmao. Granted the last time I played Total War was when Rome 2 came out. I'm guessing the shift to warhammer fantasy brought in the troons.
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>warhammer fantasy and 40k are for troons
It makes so much sense
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a lot of noticing going on right now.
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>>577729497
Total War has been Warhammer flavored the past couple of years, yeah
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>>577729492
>>577729338
subreddit user overlap
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>>577729704
they come to every fantasy franchise like a plague
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>>577729497
They actually had a potential success with Three Kingdoms but they fucked it up on every front in a spectacular fashion and ended up abandoning the game and it's planned sequel. The funniest thing was when there were mods of hot female characters made primary by chinks, a community manager who was a fat ugly white woman threw tantrum about it and the company listened to resulting in the loss of nearly the entire chink fanbase they had spent two years trying to court.
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>>577729021
that game is bloated as fuck already u will be overwhelmed by shit to do by the time u get act 2
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I was the BG3 save scummer
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>>577730592
Seriously every time I warp travel in act 2 I get hit with an event, shit is so annoying.
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Sadly, on this run, there's only Mordre at the Mushroom Cove.
On some seeds you can find a scavenger here struggling with the Hoppers, it's amusing.
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>>577730679
>NEW SAVE(465)
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>>577730825
>On some seeds you can find a scavenger here struggling with the Hoppers
I was not aware of this. Maybe I've been unfortunate with my seeds.
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The Elder Scrolls lead designer Ken Rolston has given his opinion on Wrath of the Righteous and Kingmaker.
https://youtu.be/L7uoSzgkZZ4?t=2119
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>>577732663
>dude writes about good empire of jew man and evil empire of nazi elves
Whatever
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>>577731834
His name is Wolo, if you'd like to look it up.

There are a lot of things you can miss by the "random" generation alone, for better or worse.
Styg has also added some more over the years. For example, the Noxious Hideout which us««is mutually exclusive with Booth and Coral.
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>>577733423
Ken Rolston was lead designer on all Elder Scrolls games from Battlespire, Morrowind and all its expansions and Oblivion. He didn't work on Skyrim, only as consultant, if that is what you are inferring. He worked more on Redguard than he did Skyrim.
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>>577732663
From the 20 seconds I listened to that complaint is very common
Unless you play on the easier settings the game isn't winnable if you don't know exactly what you're doing
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>>577733423
It's the Dunmer who are the Jews actually.
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Yeah, I'm thinking
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>>577732663
What is the noir Scandi game he's talking about? I thought he was talking about LA Noire at first
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Will Psykers and Blade Dancers also be broken in Dark Heresy?
I just nuked Edge of Daybreak on unfair with 4k+ damage in one turn. Didn't get Idira to wipe the mobs in that battle because of their placement.
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>>577734214
Probably not, but other things will be broken overpowered
This is a CRPG after all
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>>577734190
My guess is Northern Journey. It really sounds like that.
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>>577734190
>Noir detective game "with a great narrative"

Disco Elysium
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>>577734671
Is Estonia Scandinavia in the mind of Americans?
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>>577734812
He said "I think Scandinavian".
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>>577732663
He is absolutely correct.
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....
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>>577735381
john king
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>>577735381
>Flail user
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>>577734812
Hey, better than calling it Russian.
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>>577735381
...
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>>577735381
>>577735970
God I just fucking love the background art of Kingmaker. It really makes the Stolen Lands feel "alive". The landscape feels so majestic and natural and untamed. Owlcat haven't been able to recreate this type of nice background art since.
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>>577732663
>I wanna play World War 2 games with magic
He's all right.
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>>577735970
neck yourself froggy
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Dungeon crawlers are peak crpg
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>>577734214
Likely yes, balance is not something that goes through owlcat's heads they'll just throw random numbers at things and see what stick around
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>>577670404
Alright, seems like the Heretic playthrough is broken when it comes to the narrative parts. Companion slides are missing whether I pick the Nomos, C'tan destruction or handing everything over to Trazyn options and teaming up with Trazyn causes further issues in the form of Abelard, Pascal, Jae and Marazhai not appearing in the farewell scene before landing on Epitaph.
Uralon and Calligos get their slides and so do all the colonies, DLC story resolutions, factions and the leaders. All retinue slides are missing.
I'll check if not handing Seberian over changes anything some other day, but right now I am done with Owlshit's spaghetti code for the day.
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I'm just going to pretend this little fellow stood there because it's very daring and not because I kept quick loading to get a good screenshot.

Well, that's the easy part of the quest out of the way. Just place some traps, throw some nets, and put the Hoppers in the crate; nothing to it.
Now for the hard part, especially so with this build. Takes a couple of levels to ramp up, more so against Mechanical resistance targets.
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>>577735381
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>>577739054
How do I get into underrail?
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>>577733958
>culture which is inspired by IRL bronze age Judaism is jew coded
no shit retard
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>>577740239
What do you believe is holding you back? It's a great game.

Thought I'd hate it just by all the "very hard combat" talk, ended up loving it and the combat isn't really that hard if you've played other CRPGs before. Moreover, the game has so much more to offer other than combat. The exploration is great, build variety and their support is vast, quests and locations have different paths/options/uniqueness to them, game world/lore/characters are serious/intriguing/amusing...
In sum, the game has a lot more than just hard combat. Think reviewers or players that focus too much on that alone tend to portrait an unfair picture of the entire game as a whole.
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>>577740239
Have you tried before?
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>>577741392
>>577741431
I find it very tedious
nothing to do in the starting area except be gaped by cave beetles endlessly until my weapon breaks or runs out of ammo
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Whats more tedious Underrail or owlcat games?
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>>577742158
Froggy games
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Underrail is a froggy game thoughbeit
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very organic underrail discussion
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>>577741842
The game, up to a certain point, opens up progressively at the very start. I consider it an extension of the tutorial that has three stages.
At that stage, the very stage I'm at by the way, you're still at stage one. The next quest is stage two and opens more of the map. And the mission after that, stage three, opens even more and by the end of it almost everything else in the game is available to you.

If you're having trouble with the Azuridae, did you check what combat utilities were available to you (caltrops, grenades, molotovs)? Did you buy more?
Also, you don't even have to fight them I'm pretty sure. You can lie, move on, and come back later when you're stronger.
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>>577742158
TL:DR Underrail has more tedium overall, Pathfinder just has the buffing
Underrail easily. Owlcat's Pathfinder games are only really tedious due to how much and often you need to pre-buff, and how many "You didn't prepare for this particular situation, load a save and pre-buff with the exact thing that will negate all the challenge" situations there are.
Underrail has very limited fast travel, and often you'll have to treck through quite a bit of ground to get to where you actually wanted to go. The merchants buy limited amount of things from a pool of things they're willing to buy, which resets every 90 minutes. If the weapons merchant isn't looking to buy three guns, you'll have to either wait for him to reset or go to another one, and they're basically never in convenient places.
Underrail in general has a lot of tedium in the form of travelling vast distances for very little gain. The worst one imo is when you're working with the Protectorate, because you also have to unequip all your weapons and grenades before entering their premises, or they turn hostile, which also adds to the tedium.
I might be a masochist though, but I kinda enjoyed it for the most part. I found Underrail quite immersive and comfy in a way, and having to do annoying shit like moving great distances from a station's entrace to get to the shop made the place feel more lived in, in a way. To me, Underrail was mostly a surprisingly comfy game about exploring the Underrail while partaking in pretty enjoyable combat. Tedious as hell at times, but that tedium made getting out of a settlement and back into the tunnels feel like I could breathe again.
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>>577735381
I use Hedwirg, but instead of fighter I made him Slayer. That one flail you get from doing the lich quest is fucking cool.
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>>577744343
what do you have against spacing?
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>>577745845
I don't enjoy leaving an empty line between lines on 4chan, as I'm not exactly separating paragraphs. Most of the time separating different points by moving to the next line is good enough.
I've also never managed to make it look good :D. Most of the time one of the separated lines looks far too short to warrant being separate, and otherwise it just makes it look a bit too much like I'm trying to sound smarter than I am
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>1.3.0.15: Minimum AP cost of any attack set to 5;
Wait! Am I reading this right?! Just got level four and went to check.
With a base action point cost of 10 and 12 DEX I can't lower my attacks to four anymore even with Lightning Punches -2, Tabi Boots -1?
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Next Pathfinder crpg when?
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>>577743345
>>577742652
>>577743725
every game other than owlcat games is a froggy game to you
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>>577746459
There's that "The Dragon's Demand" one that was kickstarted some time ago, but you probably mean one by Owlcat
Considering the financial situation Paizo is in currently, I don't think we're going to see another Pathfinder CRPG by Owlcat in at least 4-5 years, unless they've been working on it behind the scenes for a couple years already
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>>577746459
weren't to pathfinder crpgs in the making?
both looked shit so I forgot their names
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>>577747042
they said they aren't working on pathfinder
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I did Arue's quest and her voice acting is GARBAGE, didn't notice how bad it was before.
Funnny she only considers these 3, plus you are friend material.
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>>577722916
Make Jimmy love me by killing all other eldar
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>>577746459
Here you go
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>>577725843
>Peaceful racist
ideal wife
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>>577752527
I finished the game today and played through this part 2 days ago. I dindn't even notice these three I was so focused on the dialogue.
Her VA has better moments in the main game for sure.
But wait till you reach The Dance of Masks. In the square it is truly garbage, it's clear a lot of time has passed between the recordings of the base game and the dlc. The temple of Desna was alright.
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>>577725843
what game is that
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>>577752780
Grim, I know many people are not too fond or Owlcat design and writing and I would lie if I said I don't HATE some of that but the parts I like I really do like a lot.
Even if there was another pathfinder crpg as we know it in the works I would be sceptical but still....
Well, now that 40k is Owlcat's best selling game I guess theres no point worrying about that. I'm glad I got two adventures that I was able to lost myself in even for a little while.
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>>577753541
It's pretty grim yeah but those two we got were amazing.
We can only cross our fingers and hope they'll decide to do a Warhammer Fantasy CRPG one day no, not Age of Sigmar
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>>577753541
So many typos and mistakes, apoligies to your eyes for my retardation.
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>>577753385
Expeditions Conquistadors
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>>577753064
I don't have the dlc sadly! I am trying to finally beat Wotr after not touching it for 2 years.
I think most of the voice acting in Wotr is decent but I was thrown off by Arue's.
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>>577753731
>most of the voice acting in Wotr is decent
Grim
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>>577753894
Yeah I said that. Seelah and Arue are probably the worst in the main cast
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>>577753731
>I am trying to finally beat Wotr after not touching it for 2 years.
Kek, literally me. Tried in 2022 but my potato pc couldn't handle act 3, then tried again almost exactly one year ago but got distracted by irl stuff and stopped at act 4. And finally now I finished it.
Overall I liked over the top voice acting, especially when combined with the slightly over the top music.
And I just attributed the slightly awkward Arue to her experiencing love for the first time and being bad with words concerning the topic. Massive cope I know but sorry I just couldn't help feeling good when she confessed her love
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>>577754769
> couldn't help feeling good when she confessed her love
I didn't romance her so maybe I missed out. I did love the Deskari battle music that was cool.

I stopped because the game is so goddamn long! It is amazing Owlcat was able to fit so much into this game but I just want it to end. I tried half of the mythic paths too.
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Anyone got a good alternative word for "go to work" for referring to a an important work of literature? Not to be confused with going to work.
My mind is blank at the moment. I can't move on!
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>>577755950
what
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>>577756167
Come on, come on!
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>>577755950
>India hours
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>>577755301
>I stopped because the game is so goddamn long!
Oh, I forgot to mention I started a new playthrough with each attempt kek.
Deskari music is indeed very cool but altogether I think baphomet's boss fight was more atmospheric with all the main story revelations going on and stuff.
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>>577756373
It's 22:30 here. While in India it is 12 AM.
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>>577756373
It's mid night in india
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>>577757018
where are you from?
pakistan?
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>>577757213
Armenia. D o you have an alternative to my original question!
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>>577756714
>baphomet
Haven't heard it yet. Doing companion quests and waiting for the dumb forts to fall first
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>>577755950
I assume you mean as in "go look up this work of literature?"
In academic texts you often see things like "see [name of work]" for sources that are mentioned but not deemed necessary to otherwise cite.
I suppose you could also say "refer to [name of work]" if you want to say something like "go and read [text], it's mentioned there"
What does this have to do with /crpgg/ though?
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>>577758285
I had no one else to turn to. This is my only social circle. So thank you for your serious answer. :)
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>>577755950
Get to work
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>>577758427
I see, you're welcome mate
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>>577758447
No, no, the other anon was correct but thank you for your input as well.
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I play all my CRPGs on Normal until I hit a difficulty spike, then I turn it down to Easy for the rest of the game.
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I could finally defeat some harvesters and look what I found. A princess in a dark and damp hole. Quite unexpected, I must say.

I'm also one companion short, because one I picked up turned out to be a forest schizo that immediately left the party when we entered Corem.
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>>577760885
How does this game always look ugly?
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>>577761048
That's easily explained. The art style doesn't change over time so unless you change your mind, each screenshot will look equally ugly to you.
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>>577761048
Doesn't look enough like a porn game it's a fucking humiliation ritual etc
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I kept Fall From Grace at arm's length.
I rejected Arue's advances.
I fell for Xana hook line and sinker.

What's wrong with me?
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Why do Alistair fans always give him pointy ears? He has round ears. Half-elves don't exist in Thedas.
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>>577762147
You are retarded and can't immerse yourself properly in crpgs as opposed to those with first person camera elements.
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>>577762464
because they just can i guess
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>>577762464
why don't you ask them
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>>577760885
Not her father's favorite yet her entire entourage are eunochs, if I remember right. He cares.
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>>577762464
I-Is that fanart not CANON? Wtf?
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>>577762803
Yes, it's sanctioned by Bioware
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>>577762464
You said why. Half elf. They don't care that half elves have human ears in DA
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Ultima VII or Serpent in the Staglands?
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>>577763192
Ultima VII is a far, far better all around game. Not even close.
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>dao makes you choose between blonde elven abusechad or blonde human nicechad you have to cockshare
What did they mean by this
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>>577762464
>Half-elves don't exist in Thedas.
They exist, they just ook like regular humans. Though the dreamer guy in da2 had a peculiar look about him. I think that was an attempt to give him that inbred elven look da2 was going for
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>>577763652
It is the other way around
Zevran is sweeter than Alistair
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>>577763070
>>577763928
half-elves don't exist in DA
they're just humans—that's the entire point, an oppressed caste getting literally bred out of existence
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>>577763652
I love zevran so much it's unreal, it's too bad there really isn't much of a reason to keep him alive or around, so I have to perform insane mental gymnastics
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>>577762464
is this porn for women?
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>>577764850
Are you aroused?
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>>577764850
No, just light erotica. Porn would be explicit
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>>577764154
Its called elf blooded. Its a while since I played DA2 but there was a npc who looked different
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>>577758285
Since when did this general become a daycare
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>>577765505
*rips off your testicles*
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>>577763192
Don't ever play anything after 7
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>>577755950
https://www.citethisforme.com/citation-generator
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>>577765620
this is a good post
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>>577762464
why did they turn Alistair more brown?
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>>577765167
elf-blooded by humans, merely called human by elves
the only reason they're called that is because humans are retarded
like, Alistair wasn't even seen or known as being some elven blooded bastard and just a regular bastard
and IMO he should have been kept that way
instead of being made some super special baby with a grey warden elven mage mom
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>>577766050
he's not that pale in dao
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>>577766593
He's ready for Jersey Shore
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>>577763652
Why do anons pretend to have played games purely off of half remembered shitposts they've read
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Why is she like this
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Ehm... I just wanted to make some money by delivering some spices. I don't know if I like this turn of events. It's funny how clueless Staglands makes me feel. I'm running around exploring with nothing but a vague notion that I'm looking for the Wandering Lady and now this.
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>>577767562
>brings a chimpanzee to the party
>surprized when it shits on the floor
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>>577766423
well blame the book gayder wrote
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>>577767036
cuckposters dont play the games
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>>577767784
Very Yrliet coded post
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>>577768282
Pretty sure he was talking about Zevran
I am once again reminding you that you do a terrible job at not caring about the supposed Alistar cuckposting
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>>577768695
I can slot cuckposter into ignoring Zev's characterization too
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it's funny how you can kind recreate bg2's party in bg3
dark urge = bhaalspawn
jaheira = jaheira
minsc = minsc
minthara = viconia
scratch = nalia
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>>577769206
It would been unfiltered pure ludo kino if durge could romance hageria
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>>577769206
>minthara = viconia
>dark urge = bhaalspawn
nothing alike
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I79gHL1QjdU
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>>577769521
both drow
both bhaalspawn
the fuck do you mean nothing alike
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>>577769752
nothing
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Mods to give Shadowheart a penis?
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>>577769206
shadowheart is obviously a current-year viconia clone, dude
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>>577770126
nah she's too white and not racist enough
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If all crpg girls had cocks which would you suck as a straight man? I would for sure suck Morrigan and Shadowheart.
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>>577770126
not even close
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>>577770469
>>577770867
that's why i said current-year NIGGA
a viconia like character wouldn't fly today, both incels and faggots would throw a bitchfit
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>>577770776
horrible post
I wonder who will get >>577777777
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>>577770942
>the most overused archetype in crpgs wouldn't fly today
go look at owlcucks and wendog
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>>577770942
incels still love viconia though even if she dies and her baby ending isn't canon
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god I had forgotten how much I fucking hate Jae's character
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Honestly if Jae had a cock I would suck it and let her cum on my face
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>>577771260
we are ALL saying this
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>>577770108
On nexus
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>>577771095
wendog doesn't see use by 99.9% of the playerbase, and she's nowhere near viconia levels
>>577771181
modern incels despise viconia because she has had sex before
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>>577771462
you have no idea what you're talking about
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>>577771589
sure thing kid
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>>577771462
>had sex before
So did Morrigan and she's the most popular waifu ever. Since we love Owlcat here Arue is also popular.
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>>577771637
you genuinely have no idea, viconia remains the most popular one and people literally can't stop bitching about her treatment in BG3,I can't even tell you to stop browsing this shithole that warps your perception of reality because viconia is popular here too
the only source of viconia not being popular anymore because she isn't a virgin is your sweaty ass
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The only disliked romance in bg2 is Anomen but since he's a man no one cares
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we genuinely have shitters who larp about games they never played
it's the weirdest thing, like they need to participate in every discussion
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>>577772012
mate most people that played bg3 had no idea who she was
viconia is super popular among old people like you and me, that's about it
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>>577772308
>they need to participate in every discussion
why do you think they do it
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I've never played RT
Jae is worst girl not even close
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>>577773127
I did play RT and that belongs to Yr*let
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Larian DOS in faerun has nothing in common with old Baldurs gate games, i really wish they used different name instead of that stupid marketing cashgrab.
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The Gate of Baldur: The Return of the Illithid
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>>577773930
too bad, it worked perfectly
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I'm glad I realised that the bat polymorph spell applies to the entire party. I was about to run out and grind random encounters to level up to give my tank a single point of int so she could polymorph herself. I had never used it before.
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Kotor1 if it had DAO isometric perspective, UI and combat would be my top5 CRPG games
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Soooooooo.... Were people seriously calling this game-like product the Game of the Year and claiming it’s not woke garbage on the level of Mixtape and Dustborn? Seriously?
Am I really the first one to actually reach Act 3?
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>>577775267
when are you going to get drafted and fight your ukrainian brothers
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>>577775267
Drag queen in a circus together with all other weirdos is least woke thing in that game.
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>>577768695
I was talking about both of them
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>>577775591
Agree. Butch lesbian killing the based dad which you cannot prevent by any means and his daughter instantly becoming wet from this shit was WORSE
This was probably one of the most disgusting moments I've ever seen in my life period.
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>>577775267
>>577775984
you sure beat this game alot for a hater
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>>577775984
Complaining about Aylin (rightfully) killing Ketheric and pretending the latter isn't an objectively evil cartoon villain is the one thing I'll never get from chuds. Like, yes, the game is woke as fuck but surely there are better hills to die on than defending Ketheric of all people?
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>>577776118
he just reposts screenshots from his russian 4chan
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>>577775576
this place will clear up if this happens
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I would pretend to be woke for a gf(male) that looks like Shadowheart
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>>577776224
It is not a matter of WHAT was done, but HOW it was done.
Specifically, with insane ferocity, a butch lesbian literally smashed the father's head into the floor, while his daughter is only glad about it and giggles gleefully at what happened.
This is a disgusting moment precisely because of WHO did it, HOW it was done, and WHAT happened after, rather than the mere fact of his death.
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>>577774964
It's a shame Joe and Hannah, for whatever reason, were not able to fully realize the potential of SitS.
Great things like the Polymorph spells, albeit present, barely have good and varied uses to them.
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>>577776752
I'm not into your gay ass ideology but yeah it is weird that isobel didn't give a shit about her father
Honestly everything about baldur's gate 3 post act-1 is weird
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>>577775984
>>577776224
I feel like you are ignoring the fact that Aylin doesn't shit on Tav/Durge and is very supportive of your party for helping her in her quest. Girlboss would've had her flexxing that she took down ketheric thorm all on her own. And also her going mental on Thorm at the end make sense, she was trapped for quite a while in evil rape shadow realm
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What is this retard talking about? The Commissar betrayed us and we literally just killed him in retaliation.
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>>577776752
>won't somebody think of the evil monster who tortured his daughter's girlfriend for 100 years
>if you're going to kill him can you at least do it respectfully
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>>577776752
Isobel never does that, and Aylin was well within her rights to brutally murder the shit out of him after he tortured her for like what, a century?
It only bothers you because she's a butch lesbian, install the Ser Aelen mod if a dyke doing it bothers you so much
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>>577776378
those are his I think
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>>577776752
honestly she's an unhinged psycho and kethric was right about being wary of her. it's why I sell her in act 3. you also get a cool boss fight and probably the only actual challenging fight in the game if you betray her.
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>>577728615
Toybox is very useful
Vertical conversation window
Various endings mods. I like the good ending for Maive but that just changes and ending slide
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>>577776902
Argenta latches onto whatever male authority figure is nearby eg Commisar, Sgt Vigastes. Not you though.
I think she's genuinely forgotten that the Commissar was a fake
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HITLER DESERVES A RESPECTFUL DEATH YOU FUCKING WOKE FAGGOT
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>>577777258
Yeah.
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>>577777258
I was really disgusted when the BUTCH LESBIAN killed the FASCIST DICTATOR who genocided her family. Complete lack of respect! It's about HOW things are done and you don't disrespect a great man by stomping on his head like that! Aylin is a PUSSY and the radical left's greatest champion!
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>>577776926
> >if you're going to kill him can you at least do it respectfully
Yes. Woke people know nothing of things like the nobility of sacrifice, redemption, and mercy. That is why even when you bring Ketheric to repentance, Aylin interferes in the fight and attacks him. And in the end, she kills him in an extremely humiliating way just for sacrificing everything for his daughter’s full life.
He deserved respect. Aylin did not. Moreover, she is a degenerate, and degeneracy is disgusting
>>577776981
She literally does
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This crying nigga is gayer than me and I unironically like feminine cocks
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>>577776873
>Aylin doesn't shit on Tav/Durg
She did to me. I warned her that that wizard due was after her and she got mad at me for apparently putting Isobel in danger even though I'm warning her about said danger. So I just said fuck it and sold her. And then I told Isobel to go to her which resulted in her getting killed. Aylin's spergout was hilarious.
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>>577777791
bg3 mindbroke you
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>>577777791
He's already dead when she stomps his head, retard
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>>577728615
never tried it but its pretty popular
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kroguetrader/mods/234
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>>577777598
He was only a fascist dictator who killed her family because the writers dishonestly chose to write him that way
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>>577777791
>He deserved respect.
You really are a caricature
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>>577777883
That's even worse
Why glorify perverse brutality to a corpse? Why do leftists enjoy this
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>>577776857
Yeah, that goes for the magic system as a whole. This could be a case of me being shit at the game, but I mostly end up having two of my mages cast Shimmering Scales and healing on the tank. I then have my third mage cast Heat Metal and let my tank and physical DPS beat the enemy to death. If the enemy isn't too dangerous I might throw in a few utility spells instead of healing, but since I can't afford to invest heavily in more than a couple of spells, the debuffs feel so weak I often wonder if they have any effect.

With a lot, maybe most since I haven't counted, of the spells needing a sustained channel that takes a while to spool up, it also feels like it is difficult to be flexible with the casts. Especially compared to other more dynamic games where you spam various abilities.
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>>577778114
You know Chudtheric was serving a god of necromancy, right? like he desecrated thousand of corpses?
>hummm yeah he might have been a serial killer cannibal rapist but can you treat him with a little more respect please
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Look, Ketheric is written specifically as someone for you to hate, just completely evil. Aylin is a queer butch, which is ontologically good, so if she does something then it's morally correct
So get with the program
>Hate Ketheric
>Respectfully admire Aylin
It's that simple
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having a sad backstory doesn't mean jack shit, it doesn't matter if you're waifu bait or some chud's hitler fantasy, you're still evil
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>>577778403
>he might have been a serial killer cannibal rapist but can you treat him with a little more respect please
Yes
It's for your own good
Desecrating corpses is bad for you
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>>577778421
aylin is fucking garbage and an extremely obnoxious character, that doesn't suddenly change the fact that your husbando was evil and deserved to die
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>>577776224
I don't care that xe killed him. But I was disgusted that the carnage was presented as something good and righteous and the fact that the daughter gave not a single shit about her father getting brutally murdered was even worse. Like she lterally doesn't shed a single tear for a man that he once was and is instead masturabting to the disgusting dyke. But a fatherless cunt with a disfunctional family like you wouldn't understand of course
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BG has always been a WOKE franchise. Remember the NAGGING widow Jaheira called Irenicus names for killing her husband? It had to be a WOMAN telling a GREAT MAN it's wrong to torture and dissect someone. The RADICAL LEFT is incapable of subtlety.
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>>577778501
Even absolute evil is capable of repentance, penitence, and redemption. This is what God bequeathed to us.
Ketheric has a dialogue branch that leads to his repentance, which could have led to redemption if a butch lesbian hadn’t intervened, screeching like all those typical modern "strong female characters." They all just scream and screech.
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>>577778773
trve...
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>>577776981
>install the Ser Aelen mod if a dyke doing it bothers you so much
I did, and the entire situation is no less fucked and isgusting. Her gender has literally nothing to do with it
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>>577778791
>Ketheric has a dialogue branch that leads to his repentance
You dumb slav, he willingly joins with Myrkul to kill your ass even when you keep trying to talk him down, he had no intention of redeeming himself
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>>577778645
>rules for thee but not for me
Don't desecrate corpses and rape corpses and turn corpses into evil zombies and tell me about your values, retard
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>>577778791
I think you belong on /v/
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>>577778645
>Desecrating corpses is bad for you
bro.... ketheric is a necromancer....
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The moid inability to take responsibility for his actions
Even when he genocides trillions, it's still somehow a woman's fault
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>evil necro chud is a strong paladin white man with a beard and dead wife and daughter
HE'S THE GOOD GUY save me FROM THE WOKE!
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>defending the obnoxious gigadyke
Now I know this general has a tranny problem.
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>>577779076
It's only immoral when BUTCH LESBIANS do it.
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>>577779076
Yeah so why are you following his example by allowing Aylin to treat a corpse that way
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I respect waifufag defenders more because at least those guys are thinking with their dicks
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>>577779079
No, it’s just hard for woke people to grasp the concept of dignity. Even if a person has done terrible things, you can still treat them with dignity and objectively appreciate their virtuous actions. Ketheric sacrificed everything he had, including his soul and his life, just to bring his daughter back to life. Meanwhile, she giggles and talks about having lesbian sex with her father's killer. This is a typical anti-father narrative of woke ideology. Woke hates families with fathers, woke hates fatherly upbringing.
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>>577779269
She gets a special pass to do it because she's doing it to her abuser and torturer, it's really simple
>if you don't treat the serial killer cannibal rapist with respect, you're just as bad as him!!
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>>577778791
>This is what God bequeathed to us.
The Christian God doesn't exist in this setting
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>>577777791
She didn’t kill him. She did defile his corpse and then acted like she was a contributing factor to his defeat.

No, you giant, patronizing dyke, “we” didn’t kill him. I did. Get it right.
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>>577779447
It exists in every setting created by humanity.
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>>577779376
>This is a typical anti-father narrative of woke ideology
The game already has good fathers, like Shadowheart's. Again, you don't have to die on that hill defending the cartoon villain
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>>577779376
What about the dignity of the thousands of lives Ketheric ruined or turned into undead? Does that not count because he's on your side?
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Kethetic changed his god 3 times, you really wanna defend this?
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>>577779768
what a whore
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>>577779558
it's really funny you're larping as a trad Christian when you live in a shithole of degeneracy and gay rapists
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>>577779652
Nobody says he is a good guy. But even bad guys could be treated good in media
>>577779575
Most father in this game are either evil(Bhaal, Ketheric) or FUCKING PATHETIC(Shart's father that failed to save her).
This is anti-masculine narrative of woke ideology as is
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Does the russianschizo have a strong traditional family
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These types of retards are worse than le sjws ever were
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I don't care about Ketheric, he's a generic villain. I just really hate the dyke.
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>>577779768
He made the ultimate sacrifice for his daughter to be alive again
Yes. He sold his soul for hers
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>>577780102
no, not really, because "le sjws" are actively making games while all these idiots do is cry about it here
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>>577779948
>But even bad guys could be treated good in media
Why? Are bad guys deserving of the same respect as the good guys? Then why bother being good? Maybe you can't comprehend being good and that's why you defend being bad. Maybe you're woke.
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>>577779948
>Bhaal
he's literally the god of murder and was the bad guy in BG1-2 uhherm?
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brag post
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>>577780186
> Are bad guys deserving of the same respect as the good guys?
Not the SAME respect, but SOME respect
Because it is on our nature to respect each other and have faith in redemption. It is our normal to respect sacrifices for your family.
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I told Swen to make the next Divinity even more anti-male and father
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>>577752527
>Funnny she only considers these 3, plus you are friend material.
Cam should be there, those two borderline flirt with each other
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>>577780481
>why won't you show the evil serial killer cannibal rapist some respect? yeah he might have raped and killed and eaten your mother, but come on, isn't stomping his head going too far?
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>>577780498
Ben Swine will do it even without you telling him that
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Why would someone pick the faggy Celts?
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this thread pretending to care about the importance of copying TT systems then getting upset at BG3 existing because MUH STORY is laughable
i can be an asshole wizard narratively AND mechanically in a party controlled by my friends, it's already more TT than 95% of the op's list
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>>577780893
if you're new here, it's mostly one russian schizo being mindbroken by bg3 for 3 years
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Any update on pasquals_toaster?
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>>577780620
>>577780620
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>>577780826
getting angry at rape used to be a hallmark of euros
i'm sure they'd tell boudica be more understanding these days
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>>577780893
we hate bg3 here because its popular and the men want to have sex with you
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>>577780982
posted a twitter meme award
>PLEASE show the evil necromancer who desecrated thousands of corpses some respect after his death! think of the message that sends if you become evil like him!
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>>577780982
Why would you even edit the image retard, just leave it as it is
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>>577780982
Are people like this even capable of communicating through anything other than buzzwords and catty twitter memes?
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>>577781151
> some respect after his death!
> you become evil like him
Correct
>>577781208
Because the original meme is wrong and my version is correct
Being woke has nothing do to with left-right axis and i know a lot of based left people and a shit ton of woke right people
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>he was a good father who dindu nothing
horseshoe theory is real
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Nyl2 futa Aylin full nelsoing Isobel on top of Ketheric's corpse
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>>577781436
ew
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Is it really so boring? Graphic looks gorgeous
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>>577781359
You're too far gone in your deluded retard logic to even connect this to woke writing which is why everyone is making fun of you for equating Aylin and Chudtheric
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>>577781537
it's rtwslop
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>>577781537
it's peculiar
I couldn't make it long, it bored me, but other people live and die for it
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If Aylin were more feminine and sexy I wonder if there would still be a pushback against her
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>>577781607
that makes it superior to turn based trash lol
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>>577781537
It's my favourite CRPG. I wouldn't call it boring.
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>>577779430
>if you don't treat the serial killer cannibal rapist with respect, you're just as bad as him!!
I look like this and I say this
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>>577781673
The only thing it's superior to is your mom's crusty asshole
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>>577781639
Not from me. Even if she were as brash and fearsome, if she were more feminine looking I'd like her more
I actually prefer that she's gay too, female angels are too pure for men
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>>577781806
>>577781806
>>577781806
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Aren't these retards constantly complaining that paladins aren't allowed to epic style execute anyone they don't like
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>>577781639
Yes, because she'd still be an unlikeable and obnoxious cunt with zero empathy for anyone but herself
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>>577779652
Those are all part of the same fictional narrative
He's not a real person. He's a fictional character who was written that way for a purpose
His entire character is a strawman to demonize fathers
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>>577781537
i like the art and the combat (particularly deadfire) but the setting is awful
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>>577781537
It's a beautiful game, but yeah it can be kind of boring especially if you're like me on my first playthrough and didn't realize some of the NPCs you can talk to are backer OCs until a few hours in
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>>577781889
>unlikeable and obnoxious cunt with zero empathy for anyone but herself
based, just my kind of woman
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>>577781639
easiest way to make her liked, pre-milennial infestation style
>thanks for reuniting us lovers, player! let's have a threesome
don't even need to change her look or behavior, people will gloss over it
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>>577781753
they added turn based mode recently for shitters like you
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>>577782143
>milennial
So you are a proud tradzoomer? why is there so many of those
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sorry I cannot take eogunn's fat ass seriously
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sorry I cannot take jae's fat ass seriously



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