Pedicure Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/708906085669405228>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>577628367
I'm learning how to play Viscous now so I dominate lobbies when he gets buffed. Shiv type shit.
>>577697225>when he gets buffedwho wants to tell him
>>577697225>when he gets buffedBro...
Are these two really OP right now?
Who the fuck names their child "Darcy Graves", it's like you WANT her to be bullied for life
Another day, another five game loss streak and i'm exactly in the same place when i started playing at the start of the week. I'm never ranking up
>>577698558Well people dont generally pick their own last names, and Darcy was a popular girl name in the 60s
>>577698546they always are
>>577698546Vyper and Mirage feel crazy to me rn.
>try a new strat/build>it works>win a bunch of games>then lose>strat no longer works>lose a bunch of gameswhat's happening here
Valve should add a cute non-gook vampire to deadlock.
>>577699230The game is RNG
>>577699386>posts a gook vampire
>>577699430she's fr*nch
>>577699386Drifter is a vampire
>>577699230usually a team RNG issue. My build rarely matters in factoring if i win or lose , but I can immediately tell a game is lost based on how unaggressive my own team is.
healing booster makes infuser have 100% lifesteal?
>>577699430remi is white.>>577699581drifter is not cute.
ranked feels pointless ill get to phantom eventually even if i have a 45% wr
Love seeing NEETs sob, cry, and suffer. It is always these kinds of people who beg for sympathy but at the same time are evil pieces of shits.
>>577700773protip you can queue for ranked without obsessing over your badge. the point is to have closer games, which it certainly does compared to standard.
>>577699386>>577699581>>577700198>drifter is not cute.
>>577698546Lash is ass. Gunlash is his best build and he becomes The Raped when Wraith or Seven rocks up.
>>577699558>>577700198anime girls are japanese, sorry gooklovers
>>577700945Not that anon but i genuinely don't care about having closer games. When i queue ranked i do so because i want to win and have my rank go up. Honestly why the fuck would you be playing this shit if not for that? the sole objetive is to get better and be able to say you're better. If you actually wanted to have fun you'd be playing something that doesn't tie you to five random retards every game
>>577700945>the point is to have closer gamesno it's to win, and I want to stomp every single game until I'm eternus and then have EARLY BETA SEASON 1 ETERNUS on my profile
>>577700886wagie seethe
>>577700945>be stinking rankedcoon>demolish any hopes of standard being good ever again with the 15 wins rule>ranked is good for all of 3 days before it goes back to being ass (DUDE PLEASE BRO PLEASE JUST TRUST THE PROCESS JUST ONE MORE WEEK AND MATCHMAKING WILL BE GOOD BRO I SWEAR)Yoshi humiliation ritual
What's the hanging chad + photograph of deadlock?
>Kill Seven seven times in lane>He's just straight up suicide charging me every time and getting nothing out of it>Somehow still manages to outpace everyone in farm and carriesI don't understandHe's spending most of his time deadHe's barely even farming in lane, he's just jumping at me whenever he sees someoneWhat the fuck am I supposed to do I can't stop him from taking all the jungleThis isn't fair
>>577701273This is when you realize that the only thing that matters in this game is draft and match duration. Everything else is a pseudo intellectual larp.
>>5777011820 income0 future
>>577701254parrying the enemy carry in lane and taunting them until they ragequit seconds after the 'unscored game' threshold passes.>>577701171the bloodbath when the game goes open beta and 60% of all eternus players get kicked down to ascendant by a wave of valorant/league zoomers will be .... glorious. to the point that "beta season 1 eternus" badge will haunt players.
>>577701678nta but I get paid $4k/m (adjusts for inflation) by the federal govt.
why do wardens ult when they're about to diegoing for a hail mary parry would've been more effective than literally just standing still
>>577701678Jokes on you, my family is rich
>>577701702>wave of valorant/league zoomerswill be unable to even play ranked for 100 hours, and will not have learned the moba aspect of this game for another 900 because riot games are full of mouthbreathing retards
I love when you can tell your team skill wise is just better but matchmaking decided to give the enemy team the better comp so you lose. The lack of a draft mode is actually so embarrassing, you can tell the Valve of yesteryear is just gone and it's a bunch of literal kids just vibe designing these days. Also I love how Graves has to waste souls/a slot on fucking knockdown otherwise she's just straight up not allowed to engage with fliers
>>577701920>i get paid 0 dollars
>>577703025>Pick graves (literal worst hero in the game)>complain the comp is badgood job retard
this blue retard is legitimately even more braindead than graves, it's impressive
>>577703345Unfortunately I will not be spending days of my life rolling the standard Slot Machine until I unlock another character, especially since I know the requirement will be lifted eventually, so Graves it is.
>>577703435You have two other options
>>577703421>the humble debuff reducer
when will they add a hero that appeals to my AGP?
>>577703734You don't have AGP you faggot.
Now that we have a dedicated "learning or trying out another hero" gamemode in casual, can we please please please for the love of god make street brawl all random? The gamemode has been completely ruined by people only picking the best characters for it over and over and over again
I’m going to queue into a standard and try my retarded Uppercut Bebop build
>>577703786Explain why I like to wear skirts and pretend to be celeste while bouncing on it, nigger.
>>577704136it's not retarded
>>577704173Because you are a faggot.
>>577704136>Uppercut Bebop buildisnt that just melee bebop?
>>577703980post it
borgor
>>577704302its bad if they got a single source of anti healbebop in general gets raped by anti heals
>>577705056NTA, but this excludes anon from being an AGP whore because...?
>Brick Bracket>Dove Division>Rat Rank>Toad Tier
I tried out that victor build that's been talked about a little bitI'm still not sure how it works for me because they kind of walked into my face and died in a frankensteinly concerning manner and I didn't even need to upgrade defensives but it felt pretty solid
I like playing paige, but don't want to end up a gay sissy boy. What do?
>>577705516Because hes over thinking it and because its clearly just a shitpost that is meant to stir shit and adds nothing to the thread
>>577705827Based, good shitEnjoy the elo potion anonI will be sad as fuck when he eventually gets nerfedJust a suggestion but I've been trying rushing refresher + greater expansion after infuser because by that time its usually the most deciding moment of the game that determines midboss etcHaving 3 lives to stat check people is insane and you underestimate how many retards fuck up their movement and get hit with the greater expansion ult
>gravesbab gets raped by my vyper thats up 20k networth on everyone>"vyper is hecking broken!"
>>577703435>especially since I know the requirement will be lifted eventually,LOL
>>577706431Its trueNerf her staminaNerf all heroes who have 4 stamina
>>577706557>characters with the best movement options> also give them the most stamina because fuck itkill the design team
>>577703025I didn't read your post, but I'm glad Graves lost.
What character should be my third if I only really play Haze and Paradox? I like Haze's play style of jumpscaring someone who's overextended and lasering the back of their head, and double time bomb Paradox because I don't like to think.
>>577707005>I don't like to think.graves
>be worst person in my team always>cant derank because i get 2 shields every win from a lower rank so stuck greifing my teammates foreverwell this sucks
>>577707052Just be a better person.
>>577707005Geist
>>577707005actually now that i think about it i should probably use the white bunny vindicta skin so its easier to see hermods really are cheats
>mina>be le epic low hp annoying fly hero>every character is faster than you with 10x more hpHmm...
>Graves>be le epic split push summoner hero>Rem's 3 alone is superior to your entire kit
>>577708389Wow Rem is broken. Who would have thought?
Deadlock should be reworked into 5v5. It would unironically make the game so much better, especially since there are no clear archetypes
>>577709008No, then it would be harder for me to get carried.
>>577709008great so a spirit nigger with 2x the souls of everyone starts rolling the lobby after 10 minutes
>>577709149I don't see the issue. At least you will be able to reroll faster
>>577709205if mean if they made mid lane half the souls it would be fine. but otherwise it would be just be who has the better mid wins, kind of like in dota(note i played dota like 10 years ago and just play storm spirit and snowballed)
>>577700986>whomever
how is kelvin beam still allowed to exist in its current state? no counter play at all
>>577709932just ........... shoot the kelvin
>>577709932literally unironically just press knockdown, cancels beam and ice path
>enemy team was haze, vindicta, dynamo, lash, and also Viktor and silver were there>I was the only one who bought knockdownI’m still pretty new, is there a better alternative to knockdown or was my team just not doing what they were supposed to? I’m not mad I’m just confused if I was counterplaying incorrectly
>>577710053>just shoot him with your 0.001x fire rate>>577710358>knockdown when dispel and counterspell are mandatory on every hero
>>577710506Oh sorry you were playing the wrong heroYou should play a spell oriented hero that doesn’t rely on fire rateHave you tried lash
Vyper is so fucking overtuned its unreal
actual completely demotivating to play this at all. What amazing MM.
>>577710901uh oh boosted baby crying!
Bad players blame their teammates. Good players blame the matchmaking. Think about it logically: The teams are supposed to be of equal skill, so if they are not the matchmaking has failed its job. Nobody chooses what rank the matchmaking puts them in.
>>577711140esl
>>577710901You are the issue Not MM
how do i get better at aiming and landing shots
>>577710901Solo queue MOBA matchmaking is basically gambling/gachaWhy do you think these games are so addictive
>>577711273(You)
>>577710901git gud
>>577710053yeah but it slows you>>577710358his beam has a 11sec cooldown. knockdown has a 20+ cd. what am i meant to do when he has it up again
>>577711627who tf puts their steam profile as a name?
>>577712191kill him when he turns into a ranged trooper for 11 seconds
> Solo kill a doorman>commend himNot so fun now is it?
>>577712331and the other 5 people on his team?
>>577711627nigga are you in ritualist?
>>577712301humiliation fetish guy from /v/
>>577712301that is probably not him
>>577712909your 5 allies should deal with them
victor players, thoughts on leech over infuser? i want to just basically never die and i havent done any testing yet.
>>577713297but they dont...
lynch all infernus players
>>577709008Solo lanes are dogshit compared to dual lanes by way of basic combinatorics
>Celeste is a movement heavy hero based around dodging and aerial maneuvering>gun is fucking dogshit for shooting people from the air and practically requires you to just stand at kissing distance and statcheck people with lifesteal and facerolling all your skills point blank
>>577713550Infuser feels like it does almost nothing. I don't know why people force it.
>enemy victor feeding to hell but is just running down objectives constantly>Wraith decides to join him
>>577715149It's called macro lil gup... maybe you need to learn it.
>>577710053>Counterplay is shootingWow, its almost like Kelvin has no counterplay unique to him!
>>577715204I'll sit here in queue for 11 minutes and think about macro then
Should I smoke weed and play a few matches before bed even though I am pretty sure weed is completely destroying the circulation in my legs
>>577714636you're such a retard i cant even be bothered to explain to you how wrong you are
>>577710463metal skin or disarming hex is way better than knockdown against that team
Speaking of knockdown, what the fuck do you do once they buy something to counter it? That's it? flyer just roams free? Also if they buy something to counter it should I just sell knockdown?
>>577716090Phantom Strike/CurseKnockdown is still good to spam on people
>>577714673you have to use it after aura of suffering's damage has ramped up
>Playing against nothing but Seven/Dynamo/Celest every fucking gamePlease just kill me
pre matchmaking update:>games have shit balance and are filled with feederspost matchmaking update:>games have shit balance and are filled with feeders in ranked>created a new mode that is literally hell on earth and perhaps the worst new player experience of any multiplayer game ever inventedgreat job yoshi
i play both billy and victor. on one hand billy is fun cause i like melee gameplay. on the other, victor can just straight up turn a game 180 degrees and im not even kidding. i just had a game where 20 minutes in i was already bad mental and decided we would lose cause this was so one sided. anyways i stopped fighting and giga farmed, past 30 minutes we had our shrines taken, and then i respawned. i killed the entire team and we went mid. another big fight ensued, i killed the entire team, and we won the game with that. just show up to the fights that matter, you cant change a games course with billy however.
MOVEMENT ABILITIES: DISABLEDSPIRIT: BURNEDHEAD: CRIPPLED
>>577716769literally every character does that though
buff warden
>>577716515>created a new mode that is literally hell on earth and perhaps the worst new player experience of any multiplayer game ever inventedbut standard isn't new?
>>577716090your team needs multiple knockdowns or they need to bait out the dispel/counterspell with something else
>>577716587Victor is one of the few heroes in this game that can completely 1 v 11 The issue is that he takes too long to come online and his counters (Spirit burn, Silencer, etc) are brutal alongside the fact half of the roster hard cucks himI've had games where I completely 1 v 6'd mid boss since I could just spam parry on the rejuv crystal and laugh as my aura melts the entire enemy team with infuser
>>577717249>healbane>FUCKING RADIANT REGENWhy do seekers post trash like anyone gives a shit?
if you do not use a mic in ranked you are shit
>>577716258this post wasnt a joke btw
What is it with supports that don't fucking rush slowing hexAre they retarded? You don't need damage that's not your fucking job, moron.
>>577717865>It's another match where the enemy team groups up as 6 and just steam rolls the map, taking any towers they want, any objectives, killing people one by one over and over all while my team absolutely -refuses- to group up and even attempt a single team fight the entire matchie another game I lost because people just dont even want to play the game, they queue up just to afk farm, die and take a loss, I genuinely dont get it and it's such a common occurrence
>>577718416>That low healing as rem>Trans cd and Healing tempo when you don't have maxxed out active slots(YOU)ARETHEPROBLEM
how bad is it for the soul economy to spam ghouls on cooldown?
>>577711292Aimlab
>>577718589I have low healing because I barely fought all game, I wasn't going to jump into a 2v6 to just die, well actually I did that a few times and did died but eventually stopped
>the creator of those awful weebslop Holliday "redesigns" got hired by Valvelmao it's over
>>577717732SAAAAAARS USE FUCKING MIC OR I WILL RAPE YOU BLOODY BASTARD
>>577718416>14 deaths in 32 minutes>as minarough
>>577719129Literally what does it have to do with anime? and he only made 1 redesign for her
how do you play pos 1?wraith's apparently who you play if you want to rank up but i've been mostly playing frontliners and spirit nukers
>knockdown vindicta>she dies>ragequits>i get a commendation from the person who killed herlol
>>577719827sleeper op desu
>>577719614split push, split push, split push, split push,plitpush
>19 games 21% winrate Celeste on my teamno no NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>577719129Are you talking about the good one that makes her look angry or the shit one
Soon
>tf2 died for artifact 2.0
>>5777209342 more weeks
>>577720934This is clearly Dota 3
>>577720934that was 6 years ago tf2nigger go back to your thread
[Sad News] The Dota 2 contractor is now working on Deadlock
How many of these posters are bots? Any time I see some brainlet babble post like "kek nigga on god" there's no fucking way that's a human saying that shit.
>>577721803His holliday mod is cool but I fucking hate the yamato one so i hooe he doesnt touch /ourjap/
mmmm yeess.. my roster is filling out nicely... soon i shall terrorize ranked...
How many of you niggas are in phantom? Just climbed to oracle 4 after starting off as Emissary 6
>>577722076Play Silver for free elo
>>577722250She is too bad right now. Everything she does other heroes do better
>>577722357She's S tier and meta defining.
>>577717708radiant regen gives me more health than the majority of other healing items i've tried in other builds
>>577722449Your high elo Silver pickers, sir?
>end game with 4.3k object damage>highest on my team>three of my team didn't even get 1k object damage>one player had zero object damageOnly twelve more wins in standard to go
>>577722607She's literally only good in high elo, you need to be able to aim to play her.
>>577722729And these high elo Silver pickers, any examples, sir?
>>577722789Haven't you need the tier lists? She's still op ok.
>>577722853>no examplesConcession accepted.
>>577722898Why are you still downplaying Silver?
>Ivy and Rem spamming curses off cooldownWe won but holy fuck that item might be OP now
>>577723065See >>577722898
Do the first 25 minutes of the game really not matter at all?
>>577723656They do but as with all mobas the punishment for mistakes gets exponential as the game goes on.
>>577723656if your other lanes feed a character with stacks in their characters design you might as well afk in spawn
mention silver and the same people always lose their freaking minds, why is that?
>>577724164the one guy thinks its really funny to spam that silver is s+++ tier
>>577724164She's still S+ tier and has always been since her release and she's never gotten any real nerfs, how is that fair?
>>577724164silver appeals to the mentally ill trannies who frequent the thread
>>577724164There are unironically people that think she's S tier and meta defining and Valve listen listens to them
>>577703025> I love how Graves has to waste souls/a slot on fucking knockdown otherwise she's just straight up not allowed to engage with fliersThat's the case for most everyone unless you think a 1 dps gun damage falloff is fire. Not everyone is Infernus.Also you should've gotten Phantom Strike or hell even Majestic Leap or even Magic Carpet against Talon, so you can actually do something when he's in air. I think it's weird that Magic Carpet went from a must have item on Graves for a month then everyone stopped buying it.>>577703345>graves>worst hero in the gamelolThe guy just got draft diffed.
My wife Lilah Silver needs buffs urgently.
>>577723656In the sense that if you lose against a good draft in lane, you have zero hope to catch up. Lane does not matter in the sense that "I can make my mid game scaling character shine!" because it just doesn't happen outside of pro play.
>>577725169um she's s tier and meta defining stop downplaying her
>>577724843cont.I see the vision with Knockdown but it has too much of a startup allowing someone to get to safety before getting bonked. And if you use Knockdown from a mile away, you can't exactly do anything as Graves, you're just hoping your team can follow up. Knockdown is unreliable if you're using it as a counter mobility or flight, and a lot of fuckers got autoparry and are buying Counter Spell these days.
>>577725442It can happen its just difficult as fuckLike in pro you can burst down mid at 15 minutes if you have a few picks + good comp for it but in a pub game it would never be that organized
>>577721928>>577721803If they just slot these into the official game i'm going to be upset.This is the guy who was contracted for Kez and everyone is jerking him off. The Holliday mod is better but it should still get a fresh pass if they want an official redesign.
>>577725801Yep. Problem is Deadlock is balanced as if it were DOTA 2. The devs just can't acknowledge it's a different game, probably because they spent the last 15 years working on one game.>we copy roles wholesale from dotatype shit
>>577726028They should add Hoodwink
fated for eos due to gunslop never getting removed
>>577726793>he wants it to be aoe slop onlyOverwatch or Marvel Rivals or whatever is right there
>>577726872MOBAs infamously tend to lean towards AOE slop since guns are a modern addition for them. Isn't Overwatch significantly more aim demanding than Deadlock?
>>577727001no because it's designed for consoles from the remains of a canned MMO
>>577727001>Isn't Overwatch significantly more aim demanding than Deadlock?For hitscanslop characters, yes. Otherwise, it's about the same
>>577727001It wasn't when I played (on release). Way more forgiving than Deadlock and with a fraction of the mobility
>>577726793Gunslop hasn't been meta for years though.
>>577727141That guy is Bricklo or doesn't play the game. How the fuck would he even know
>>577727084I don't know how most people are supposed to take down a Pharah Mercy still, that crap is like trying to kill a fly with a pencil.
>>577727141the lash buys 3 gun items now this is just fucking CS2 again thanks valvve
>>577727235you play mccree and click headhow it was when i used to play anyway
>>577727309times have changed, now you play ashe and click head
>>577727254...what?
>>577727696Don't you know? CS2 is when you repeatedly launch yourself into the air and shoot people with hyper mobility
when did they add mr bones to the game
>>577727895there used to be a bug with Seven's ult animation that made you look like a skelly for the rest f the game
Pocket is the most braindead overpowered character in this gamein a world of too much mobiltiy and CC slop he has even more mobility and can avoid CC for free while doing 5billion damage
>>577720372Angry
hook then rape and kill all trooniday and troonleste players from the sky
There's a guy in eu oracle right now griefing or testing griefing detections by afking in base and jumping the whole timeDid it the entire game, system failed to detect him as afkAnyone seen something similar?
S and D tiers for Phantom+ lobbies since the last minor patch, how are we feeling about this?
>>577730156had a vyper sit in fountain and hold M1 for 40 minutes while we won the game 5v6
>>577730156Checked his standards games and he's done similar shit alongside blatant cheating like this wtfHOW IS THIS NOT AUTOBANFor fuck sake valve please just autoban people if they hit a certain amount of shots
>>577730324>57.02%Good fucking lord
>>577730324>S and S+ is ALL m1shit>D tier is 3 1234ers and geist
>>577730324>+1.04%She's going upSHE'S GOING UPPPPP
>>577730324>Wraith in over 70% of gamesJesus christ
Why is Silver the only character that falls off? There is no other character that becomes totally and utterly helpless unless they get both an early lead and capitalize on it
>>577730324>pocket>d tierI disagree with this interpretation of the data
>>577730878And this is what it looks like in a spirit meta.
>>577731449MinaApollo Probably others
this game is played competitively for money
>>577731654not really
>>577731569mina literally has infinite scaling
>>577731725she literally is a liability if you fail to close the game out by the 30 minute mark
>>577731654I had a teammate really sad he fell off from Eternus, he was just in a bad mood the whole game. Then we started getting picks, getting momentum, thing's going good, mental improving.Then we get the drop on the Rem, he's 1hp. He just disappears in front of us and we see his silhouette fall through the floor. He's gone. And with his ult still up we can't go mid. We lost the match.
>>577731449Graves is like that after 20 minutes you kinda suck wee wee
why does silver have abilities that suit holliday more
>>577732253why would holliday turn into a werewolf?
how the fuck did seven get 30k souls in 16 mins
>>577732283human form silver is more sheriff than donkey kong holliday
>>577731654a more accurate description is a small group of like 30 people try to play the game competitively to make less than minimum wage.
>>577732376stuffing his pockets as usual
Why did they think it was a good idea to just make Mo and Krill unkillable and able to escape from any situation with virtually no cooldown?>build healbane>build slowing bullets>build stalker>blasting his ass right up his ass>he's still just healing as he exits the fight>IN LANE
>>577732862Yeah its just stupid had a Mo and Krill yesterday that was literally unkillable everyone bought anti heal + scourge and he still wouldnt go down its just dumb gameplay no matter how 'bad' his damage is
>>577732862It's really funny when you're the Mo and Krill
>the tankiest hero in the game is tankyYOSHI DO SOEMTHING MY DPS….
>>577733081He should be tanky he should not be literally unkillable by just pressing 1 and jumping around thats retarded gameplay literally factual
>>577732862you should try shooting his giant head instead of his ass.
why can you buy headshot items for graves if she literally cant headshot?
>>577733137m1gger seethe
>>577733262his giant head is in the ground
>>577733409You can’t? It was blocked last time I played her
>>577730324Silver is S tier and meta defining though
>>577733548He can’t parry while burrow so you can spam melee on him for a little more dps
>>577730324seven just got another buff btw
>>577733409Do people in this fucking general even play the game
>should've played more drifter and paige before matchmaking update so I wouldn't be forced to play standard to get some more freelo charactersJust exactly how BAD is standard right now? I only have like five wins left on each, which optimistically should be 10 games but realistically will be about 20 games.
>>577733842standard is literally fuck awful full of redditors and trolls its like non prime csgo
do you think we will get vacnet too
>>577733842>>577734034The queues should NOT have been splitRanked should stay perma enforced in all matches god DAMN
>>577699929yes and you should normally build it if you can get a lot of value and aren't strapped for slot space. it would be bad on seven but good on victor.
>>577733702also just damaging him takes away the move speed buff from burrow.using burrow to escape is unironically bad because you cannot dash or wall jump during it.
Match quality is way lower than it was before the patch.
>>57773384212 losses, 4 wins on my first pageIt is actual misery because I'm literally being matched with brand new players on my team while the other is a 6 stackThe only games I can even win are ones where I'm playing a m1gger how the fuck am I supposed to unlock anything else?
>>577732397Like a certain competitive scene from another well known valve title
>>577733842Standard is great if you want to experiment in low stakes. The problem is you're explicitly trying to win, so yes, it's a shit mode for that purpose.
>>577701254>common pairing>excellent synergy that can single-handedly win pretty much anything>turbo raped by one enemy in particularlash ult/dynamo ult, with sinclair as the plant
>>577705859you play ivy instead
>>577730324>>57773144372% pickwrait
>>577705859play gun paige
>>577702764>will not have learned the moba aspect of this game for another 900 because riot games are full of mouthbreathing retardsThe macro in League is infinitely more complex than Deadlock from the existence of wards alone, take your tribal shitpotsing elsewhere. If you think League is the worse game, that's fine, but come on now.
>>577716769>spams this on you 5x with recharging rushliterally might as well be a 5s stun
>>577702764>and will not have learned the moba aspect of this game for another 900 because riot games are full of mouthbreathing retardsdo league players do this? i've never really played it, my only traditional moba was hotsi can understand some overwatch or rivals tourist running it down in deadlock without realizing it's a moba but do the league natives do the same?
>>577718073yeah they're just retarded. I have an ivy build like this. literally just stoneform into tether into ult rush
Yoshit is cooking something big. I can smell it.
>>577735287Too bad it's buggy as shit and doesn't hit anything half the time
>>577735441It's retarded DOTA 2 fanboy type shit and LoL lives rent free in their heads. Deadlock's macro is objectively dumbed down, it's not even a discussion.See DLNS and compare it to Worlds or TI.
>>577735652october
My perfect little princess
>>577735216wards don’t work in a game with no fog of war
>>577735732oh i'm not trying to argue about macro complexity when the game's played properly (though i probably agree with you on deadlock having simpler macro) i'm just wondering if league players understand their own game's macro, 'cause i've never played it. like a lot of deadlock players just treat the game like deathmatch without realizing they're at a turbo soul defecit and i'm curious if league players (at least lower elo players) do the same
>>577735870That’s a man
>>577735870
>>577735790Item update before though.
>>577735947The biggest thing league players do is jungle too hard
>>577736071item update october, jungle update in november, simple as
>>577735947League has a bit of a split playerbase. A large portion of people only play ARAM which is basically Street Brawl. In terms of the main mode, both DOTA 2 and LoL quickly teach the basic strategy thanks to the top down perspective alone. It takes longer to learn in Deadlock because the perspective is quite literally tunnel visioned, so everything feels more complex than it really is.The important part is that in Deadlock, you don't have access to wards (basically CCTV cameras you can place), which basically means that any meaningful play is more of a gamble. Meaning your ability to kill moar is even more important. The strategy in Deadlock is even more reliant on hyper carries as a result.I'd personally argue Overwatch players climb Deadlock easier, hence a lot of the top players being ex-Overwatch comp players or streamers.
how would you solve deathballing through the jungle until you find someone being the best strategy in non-top level play?
>>577733842Absolute dog ass.
>>577736743do you really think this game needs fucking wards?you have infinite distance line of sight and people stomp like mr. x from resident evil when they're nearby like how the fuck are you getting ganked.are you the retard in my games that pushes past the middle of the map when they have rejuv and none of them are showing on the minimap?
>>577731654a bunch of high school/college aged children play the game for less than minimum wage while living at home.
>>577731654>jeet brawlso?
>>577736743cont.The takeaway is your average LoL or DOTA player will at a glance understand the entirety of Deadlock's macro in 50 matches or less because it's the foundation of those games. The problem is that macro doesn't matter much in Deadlock to begin with.You push lane, you farm backwards, and look for picks in the process. Sometimes you sacrifice a Guardian or Walker to reach an important team fight in the other side lane. It's shrimple.The objectives are done when you have an 80% certainty to secure it, so it's not even a meaningful risk/reward.
>>577737257>do you really think this game needs fucking wards?I didn't make this argument, just saying that the strategic possibility space is smaller.Question- in Deadlock what do you do when the Vyper loses lane then fucks off to their own T3 camp in complete safety for 25 minutes? Like it or not they're getting their full build that mathematically scales better than you. What are you going to do, perma invade their jungle trying to fight an m1 carry with CC in tight corridors?
https://x.com/gabefollower/status/2088943036378026020This would be good news for the gooner deadlock crowd
>>577737953kill her team and her stuff while she's actively not participating in the game, end by 35 minutes.or just gank her when you can hear her farming the neutrals that are close to the center of the map.
>>577738156>goonerthose are milquetoast ass redesigns though
>>577738254everything is 'gooner' to some retards>is that an attractive women? *gulps*>GOOONNNEEER EPSTEIN UNC DIDDLY AHH
>>577738209>kill her team and her stuff while she's actively not participating in the game, end by 35 minutes.Most ranks can not end at 35 minutes.>or just gank her when you can hear her farming the neutrals that are close to the center of the map.She can stun you and has the best ground mobility in the game. Also a 1v1 in a tight enclosed area (most minion camps) are actively desirable for Vyper if she wants to engage. It's up to her if she wants to feed or not.Alternatively think trying to contest a Haze in her own jungle when she's just going to dagger and escape, or dagger and ult. I'm saying you don't have tools to deal with this which shrinks what you can realistically do against them in a match.
>>577737636Part of it is how new the game is, there is a few people freezing and stuff but it’s still the top 0.001% and hasn’t reached most
>>577735683yeah that's fucking cap when did you last play him because I CONSISTENTLY get hit by this bullshit from miles away
>>577738156The Holliday one is good but I hope Valve still does their own Yamato
>>577736018>>577736050Mad ugly tranny you will never look this feminine and delicate
>>577738842>she's using cheatsDropped
>>577735870>>577736050>>577738842why are we advertising this man here now?
>>577738593ok, then just pick her and do that if it's impossible to counter and then simply win every single game? i don't even see how she's particularly powerful in an enclosed space since she doesn't have shit like abrams charge or venator gutshot.i don't see how taking a huge risk to walk into the enemy jungle to plant a ward just so you can see her farming in her impossible to penetrate fortress helps you in any way in this scenario either.
this week marks one year since the 6 hero update
>>577739043And two months until the next update, which will have no new heroes.
>>577737408falling through the map is not exclusive to jeet brawl
>>577738984> then just pick her and do that if it's impossible to counter I don't like playing m1, but when I did pick the gunslop pick at the time (Haze) I won 8 matches in a row. Shit's lame.>i don't even see how she's particularly powerful in an enclosed space Her daggers slow, shreds defense, and has charges. Her ult stuns and has a delayed execute. She has the most stamina in the game with a slide bonus, so she can just leave in a bad engage.>i don't see how taking a huge risk to walk into the enemy jungle to plant a ward just so you can see her farming in her impossible to penetrate fortress helps you in any way in this scenario either.In a top down MOBA you'd plant the ward prior when you have map advantage (eg win lane), for it to be used when you lose the map advantage. That information is extremely useful knowing if you can steal a camp, if the enemy is isolated, etc.I'm not saying Deadlock needs wards, I'm saying we should just acknowledge the game is more draft driven since you can't really counter these hyperscaling picks outside of COMPLETELY eviscerating them on repeat, which is quite difficult to do if they're going full turtle.
WHERE. ARE. THE. HERO. LEAKSCmon yoshi if you nuke the leakers then at least do it yourselves>Ooooh look at this new frontliner hero's silhouette? Coming soon!
>>577738967>MLPyeah that's a dude
>>577739363if you wanna win, do what wins no matter how "lame" you percieve it to be.her winrate is high but it's not insurmountably so.
>>577739168But in this instance it happened in Mickey Mouse Jeet Brawl so who cares
>>577739752Leakers were drawn and quartered and their heads spiked in front of Valve HQ
>win a 5v6 after the worlds worst venator leaves>deciding fight was won because i counter spelled a combo
>>577740872>dying to silverLOL
>>577740872Brutally pounced upon by a cute wolf and goyle
>>577739798I mean, true. It just feels like certain characters are designed to "end the game early" but there aren't individual tools to do so. Everything that progresses the match is a team based objective so unless everyone's particularly competent, that Infernus is walking out with his full build as a canon event. Like, sure there's urn, but if the game goes on for 30 minutes + you're still getting outscaled unless you yourself are a late scaler to begin with.I just remember matches where I completely dominate the mid game, ganks, urns, everything, then getting completely fucked regardless.
>>577719827If 70% of sinclair players didn't try to play him like cf3 he would have a 60% winrate at every elo
>>577741116SEX
>>577719129>WeebslopHi tourist!
>>577741313getting a lead and failing to keep it isn't a character issue.some characters scale better than others but that doesn't mean you become entirely useless just because the timer hit 35 minutes.if you really were dominating midgame there should be nothing stopping you from taking vyper's lunch money in the jungle with your team. maybe you need to adjust your build because you're buying too many dead-ended midgame items.her winrate is only around 55% it's not impossible to beat her.
>>577741532You wouldn't survive her
>>577738687Freezing's a lot less relevant in a game with so much movement tbf, its mostly a farming technique in midgame after guardians have fallen
>>577738687Freezing doesn't really work when there's always jungle and boxes to takeYou are purposely wasting (you)r time.It works in stuff like league since mainly jungler is a role
>>577741843People are freezing in this game now? I got to masters rank in league and I fully understand why it makes sense in that game but I don't really understand why it does here.Maybe it can be a niche strategy in lane to get an advantage in certain matchups. But during midgame? Unless there are currently like literally 0 camps on the map, it's almost always better to push the wave up and take neutrals, I feel.
>>577741843>>577741964freezing works amazingly in the first 5-6 minutes of the game if you're winning hard enough to do it.boxes are a pittance at that stage of the game and most characters are not strong enough to farm neutrals quickly enough without just setting themselves further back.the actual hard part is getting your lane partner to do it.
>>577742327Tons of streamers have made "freezing is secretly op" videos so now you get one nigger freezing wave 25 minutes into the game for no discernible reason every couple of games.
Anyone keep getting disgusting coinflip matches since the matchmaking update?I play in the south american region so that might have something to do with it (low pop + brazilian retards), but I swear to god every losing match has at least 1-3 people inting their ass off.I'm almost always the best performing on my team even when losing, but my winrate is pivoting negative.Is this because of the dogshit system that makes it almost impossible to go down in ranks? I swear to god so many of these people have to be gold or below not oracle
>>577741832BREED
>>577741964>>577742327If you kill them or force them to back you do it to starve them of a wave, sometimes two.
>>577742417my question is what are you supposed to do when you freeze. like okay you're not shooting the wave so it stays on your side of the map so they have to overextend for souls, sure. but do you run boxes while it's on your side or do camps or what because i'd inagine you don't wanna wholeheartedly ignore wave on guardian
Buff split pushing
Why does mokrill only need like three green items to be the tankiest character in the game?
>>577743293you prevent them from entering soul gain range. be on the middle bridge and take nearby boxes, zone them with your damage and don't let them come near. the point is that you are near soul gathering range and they are not, you are even denying them the healing orb. it's not widely done because you have to be insanely better than the opponents to really pull it off.like you have to be coordinating with your duo and managing waves so you guys get your second and third skills before the enemies do and leveraging that power to shove them away from gaining souls.it's a stupid amount of effort for small leads that vanish in midgame because everything gives more souls later and farming jungle camps rapidly becomes an option.
I'm a deadlock noob and have been really enjoying the game. I came from lol otping Poppy and love abrams, any other tanky engage champs I should try?
>>577743813Spam mokrill
>sleeps you>ults youwow original dood you're amazing
>>577738687This game has braindead macro not just compared to dota but also lol. I believe this is by design though since it's a TPS and stacking camps/freezing lanes etc are too complicated combined with the mechanical requirements to play.
>>577743813Billy yamato calico
>>577743813victor
Does matchmaking do that thing other games do where if you get close to ranking up, it puts you in a game it expects you to hard carry? Everytime I get close to the threshold, it puts me in a game where I'm the only one not feeding
>>577726095Imagine being a dev and getting huge financial support to make something new but you just end up remaking the thing you've been working on for 20 years, but this time it has a crosshair.These devs are creatively bankrupt, they've done almost nothing to actually innovate on the genre. There's NO reason a modern MOBA should have 45 minute+ matches where 85% of the time is still spent farming AI minions.It feels almost like they're floundering at this point and the balance changes repeatedly prove it. For fuck sake, 80% of all damage is now spirit, and there's so much CC that you'd swear the average player is physically disabled and can't play the game at all without deactivating entire game play elements from players. Playing this game is like playing smash bros but the only way your opponent can beat you is by unplugging your controller for 5 seconds over and over.
Why do I get "blutooth punched" nearly every single game? I am like 3 full character lengths or more away from people who melee and they still hit me. Like I can visually see them completely missing in every sense of the word, yet I still eat damage because the game just says so. I even do shit like double jump, dash slide, double dash, and more, and STILL get hit at all times by it. It's impossible to predict if you will get hit by it, because yeah sometimes you don't, but like 8/10 times you will. You can try to predict a parry but if you fail (which you will very often because it looks like it won't even hit you at all) you are locked out of parrying so you eat even more melees.It's incredibly annoying and frustrating
>>577735216>The macro in League is infinitely more complex than Deadlock from the existence of wards alonewhat a fucking joke lmaoi've had people accuse me of cheating by shooting them through a veil when they never showed themselves, only to tell them i heard they're footsteps and just guessed. placing your vision proxy in a bush is not measurably complex in any metric, and if you're one of the fuckers wanting an item from shop that you can place down for vision/enemy alerts in your doubles instead of just using your fucking ears, feel free to leave.
>>577744936Yes, all of the time. If you have a good game, you can guarantee that your next game will be full of useless, retard, feeding teammates.
>>577721803>>577726028>>577721928he's just going to be put making skins and cosmetics, don't worry
>>577745071melee charge/crushing fist + getting fucked by lag compensationi've been tempted to use a mod that just makes the heavy melee sound 5x louder and just practicing my parries.
>>577745071press the parry button and do a dash parry instead of dashing away.you get the same safety of moving away from a dangerous enemy with the free option of stunning them on the way out.you'll lose out on one heavy melee for the punish if you decide to go back in but just shooting them back for free is still a win.
I need an m1 bf to play with eu phantom 2
>>577745637sorry, im not gay
why arent they doing anything with these brainless characters like wraith and shiv who can just feed in lane but still be giga strong?shivi s the second least fed on their entire team and it still takes 90000 years to kill him with anti heal this game is catered to morons now i swear
okay I just wanna pocket someone and get boosted to eternus
So is lifesteal just a dead stat for m1ggers? Even Vampiric Burst seems to do nothing to help me survive longer, more often than not.
>>577745936why? You're just gonna be deadweight there
>>577733842Just buy a paige or drifter account at this point. Sanity destroying standards is not worth saving 10 bucks.
>>577746047I've just identified that every high mmr game is literally just some guy gets solo farm and snowballs and rapes people at 25m and wins the game. Might as well lean into that reality and enable it.
>>577745936and then once you get to eternus? it's solo only you know
>>577746247eternus is still duos just when you hit eternus you can only queue with people who are within 3 subranks of you.
>>577745157if you think you're some sort of genius because you can hear footsteps, you're seriously deludedyour response has nothing to do with whether or not wards add complexity. they definitely do because they let you choose what areas you will have an easier time keeping tab on, especially at distancewhether wards would be a good fit for deadlock is a different conversation
>>577746419I think there should be controllable observation wards. Not consumables. Maybe they could add an item that counters invis somehow?
Anyone else always playing in high ping matches? I would say my average game is 80ms no matter what time I play, what day, or anything. I play in 80ms matches more often then I play anything below 30. My region is USEast. I know 80 isn't that high but with all of the shit always going on in the game like who you're tracking, shooting, leading shots, trying to hit orbs, skill shots, etc, I feel like I tend to miss more because of the lag, lag comp, their connection, and so on. Like I will be shooting a dynamo dead on and I can see the bullets hitting them but there is no damage tick.
>>577746720Only if current invisibility doesn't have reveal range anymore so its true invis unless you bump into someone
start building "confession booth" Venator
>>577746919They could possibly reduce the reveal range a lot yeah. Like 5 meters.
>>577747006I was low HP on ivy and a drifter was chasing me and my venator throws a trap into the closet so I went in and the drifter runs in and gets rooted and tries to slash me and I pop stoneform and venator fucked him up and followed up with another stun. Was pretty funny.
>>577745157>placing your vision proxy in a bush is not measurably complex in any metricThere's a whole separate vision game regarding wards alone to the point where it's something you can unironically specialize in. Your post reads as someone who hasn't played these games, which is fine, but don't be hostile and so sure for no reason.
>>577747386Not that guy but: Just become something is complex does not make it better. I personally don't want wards in the game because it's meaningless busy work. That snuffs out any sort of tactical or stealth options an area. Removes any need for you to engage with a lane because you can "just see" that it's safe. Just another thing to waste your time on in the game having to buy, manage, and place wards. It isn't really a "mind game" of wards, it's just boring crap. Deadlock especially does not need all that shit because you get vision on characters on the minimap far often enough as it is. You can "see" enemies across the map and see them on the minimap for your entire team already. Wards would hamper a lot of real gameplay going on. Keep that shit out of the game. I like the way it is now, I like the hidden closets that you can duck into or hide/ambush in.
I am having a hard time deciding who to ban.There is a lot of cancer in this game currently.>Billy>Graves>Celeste>Paige>Ivy>Warden
>>577747006Looks funny but gets hardcountered by counterspell
my wife
holiday's ult is aids idk what you people are talking about
>>577748374>gravesare you a standard baby
still waiting for them to nerf wraith...any day now...
>>577748374Thats a true seekergod banlistHere is my eternus banlist>grey talon>sinclair>mirage>pocket
>>577745637sorry, i am gay but play sa.
>"spirit" meta>look inside>m1 heroes get free spirit damage by holding m1huge spirit burst nerfs incoming (we are not allowed to nerf m1ggers)
>>577748905if m1ggers are not allowed to be nerfed why does venator suck dick and balls
Dynamo gets the best ult in the game, a 10 second teamwide invuln teleport + debuff reduction, %based aoe heal and a spirit nuke that goes across the entire map. why does this nigger get to do so much he's far and away the best support hero in the game>b-but rem heals more!!!rem can't single handedly win games with one ult or an entire teamfight by pressing 2 at the right moment
eat their ass mo!
i dont know what character to main
>>577749212rem ult can most definitely solo win a mid contest (and thus the game), but this is true for many heroes besides him and dynamo.anyways i had a 1500 dynamo games guy with negative winrate so wcyd
Dynamo is allowed to be good because he's literally THEE reddit hero
why would you ever buy crippling headshot for mediocre dual shred and a weak antiheal, when you can buy inhibitor and get effectively double armor and a way better antiheal, plus better base stats?they need to remake some of these items, there's no reason crippling headshot should be a hybrid item
>>577750156but enough about doorman
>>577750228Doorman is more like X/Twitter
>>577750202you are comparing an offensive item to a defensive item, seekerALLAH
>>577750228But doorman isnt allowed to be good they just dumpstered kidnap build
so mo is a giant mole but what is krill? a talking monkey? I know he is a hold over from neon prime but what will he be after their models are replaced? a midget?
>>577749412people buy counterspell, dodge your ult and then are given a parry refund to parry after if someone attempts to jump into pit. it's actually a pretty shit ult because it's so projected.
>>577748778>he sincerely actually bans the only C-tier character in the gamebrickbro...
>>577750534Not sure, I'm hoping he's a little Imp sort of dude, like a mini-Ixian.
>>577748374>>577748778Did you forget to add Wraith? she is the most broken M1 carry right now.
>>577751095>silver>s????
curbstomp mcginnes players
>>577751095in what fuckass world is vindicta better than gay talon>silver S, Vyper Aahh, troll list
>>577751762Why? She was never a massive deal before the nerfs now she sucks more. Every other M1 already curbstomped her before the nerfs.
>>577752230you dont play her like an m1, seeker san
>>577751095>nearly half the roster in S/S+just fucking rename the tiers to SABCD at this fucking point
>>577752317What do you build, turrets? If you can't deal with weak shit like before and after the nerfs, then you're the seeker.The only other good build was Ult
>>577751095>GT>CWasn't he dominating not too long ago? What the hell happened? Was the universal ult nerfs that bad for him?
>>577752778Nah he's OP as fuckI have to assume his playerbase is just boosted subhumans who get caught despite having flight + 4 stamina in your base kit
I love titanic mag. I don't care what people think
most overpowered characters currently>shiv>talon>infernus>wraith>pocket>warden>seven>hazemost underpowered characters currently>kelvin>celeste>mina>paige>viscous>mcginnis>geist>bebop
>>577753510>cheats
>>577753510I think you should put every character (including males) into a bunnysuit
>>577753560seekercore
>>577753609>schizophrenia
how do i run from fights i get chased down so fucking easy. the reverse is a problem too i can't chase anyone
>>577753749slide, wall jump, dont waste stamina, mantling, using walls, roofs and stuff
Can I get peoples takes on Graves? I've been doing crazy well since picking her up a week or so ago but idk if that's legitimate improvement + her clicking for me or if I'm getting carried by a good hero.
>>577755106graves gets worse the higher you go because people learn to macro around zombies and melee skullsbit of a noobstomper
how are there just people out there who get to go 5-15 on yamato 5-11 on lash 3-11 on abrams and they get to just keep their ranks forever
Delete vindicta
>>577718416so you knew your team wasn't fighting at all, and you decided to first item TC and build healing tempo..........?
>>577753560>celeste
>>577755106She's good against retards and griefing tier against good players, you'll easily get carried to whatever the new equivalent of pre-ranked rework of phantom by is spamming her.
>>577748194Wards definitely prove valuable to the gameplay in League because they can cause fights. There are skirmishes that happen to place/protect wards. I don't think I would call it meaningless.
They should add wards to this game.
>>577756548wouldn't even make sense in this game when characters can cross the map in about 10 seconds.
how play warden now
win streaks should give out more points.im on a 3 win streak and all it did was give me +70 points.now im 970/1000All thats gonna happen is Im gonna get a loss streak and lose it all anyways.Whats the point if after a 3 win streak, I dont even rank up?
They should add more maps to this game.
>>577756734I never said they would make sense in this game. I'm just saying that saying they're inherently meaningless is disingenuous.
>>577756789If you're good, you win more than you loseif you're really good and better than your supposed skill level you win streak more than you lose streak
I don't care how good they are I want any character that spends 80% of the match in the skybox to have their damage lowered to zero
>>577756749
>>577756930And what do i do when I get matched up with someone that REALLY wants to play gun Rem and goes 0/15?
>>577730324Why don't I see Geist players cry as much as Silver ones?
>>577757140you play a carry like wraith and bum everyone with literal no effort
>>577757203Because Geist is actually playable
>>577757204And if that doesn't work because the enemy decided to buy a microphone and communicate with each other?
>there's no ff because every game is winnable!No
>>577757203they're too busy gooning to her boobsgeist players also play the game
>>577757286Her winrate is lower doe?
>>577757380Retards building too much gun instead of Spirit. She works on my machine.
I did like that one anons idea of giving the camps affinities/weaknesses relating to the item types. This camp is weak to gun items, this one is weak to spirit, this one is (somehow) weak to greens (damage taken proportional to your green investment? Dangerous and hard to kill for glass canons, breezy for tanks?)
>>577756868Cars also allow players to travel long distances quickly in GTA online. I think it would be pretty meaningful to add them to Deadlock because of this.
I love Geists skills but hate her gun so much. And I feel like I'm throwing by not going hybrid.
>>577749190he doesn't though he's just the slowest m1 hero
>>577757203her players are straight
>>577757636You joke but anons were brainstorming a supernatural cab driver a few months back with a group taxi ult.
unnerf him. NOW.
i know your here "IAN"
Venator is weird in that he has good numbers and abilities but he only really shines when the enemy is aggro into him rather than him being the aggressive side.
>>577757872>remove the dogshit alt cast on cart that literally not a single person has ever used>replace it with alt cast letting you hold onto and travel with your cart (still grabs and stuns enemies)
>>577757731I play both and Silver is straight ass
>>577758143um silver is S tier though? stop downplaying her dumb tranny
>>577757964You have negative range. I can do only do well if Im building tank Venator
>>577758119I have intentionally used the alt cast one (1) (uno) time before, carting my ulting m&k to drag an abrams further into our teams side in brool.Every other time has been a miscast because my mouse is super old.
No memeing I dont think Silver is good at anything she sucks at 1v1s she sucks at ganking she sucks at farming she BLOWS at pushing objectives she sucks at tanking legit what does she do?
>>577758429She provides a Cautionary tale on alcoholism
>>577758429She's pro bait and clip farming for when you get the rare moment when people hold W into you with no counter items and 30% hp for infinite ult resets
>>577758119i use it to help my tardo teammates chase but it doesn't matter. i no longer want to rely on said tardo teammates.
silver has been nerfed 999.999 times meanwhile wraith? meh maybe we'll make her teleport's cd...one second longer...maybe...hm...
>>577758429She makes hero shooter niggers and high ego trannies seethe because she can sometimes win 1v1s so she's actually super OP because they think this is a deathmatch game and not a moba.She had one singular niche she was good at while sucking ass at everything else, and they nerfed her ability to do it because it upset retards. Her niche was never that important to the outcome of the game, but that didn't stop the retards from thinking she was op for doing the one thing she was designed to do.
>>577758378ironically in that situation normal cart would have done the exact same thing i'm pretty sure. the only situation I can ever even imagine it being useful is to cart people out of unstoppable + dynamo ult, and i'm not even sure if that works.
Am I toxic?
>playing support ivy>buy nova 2nd item>retards crying in the late game suggesting that healing my ally for 700 in lane is invalidated and totally a shit item because infernus eventually gets access to 33% anti heal on t3 napalm that no one rushes>we lost the entire game because I bought healing novathese niggers are so fucking braindead it's insane. it should be considered a crime against humanity to force a white person to play with slavs.
>>577758565>BLEEDReset heroes will always be potential man.
>abdul ismail is icefrog>icefrog is yoshi>deadlock balancing changes for the past few months have been spearheaded by an arabthis explains so much, honestly. the only amazing update we've had so far is the mm update, yet every update after the OGNB update was complete and utter dog shit. Did they finally pry yoshi away from the computer or something when they were making the mm update? good thing they did
>>577758709>mcgkill yoselfv nigga
>>577758698Yeah I know thats the worst part, entirely pointless. One time I miscast the alt cast I had someone ask how I made my cart blue.
>>577758801NTA but miku is one of my highest played still from back when her 2 had crazy range, duration, and the attack speed. Haven't touched her since the changes except a couple brawl games.
>>577756789>hitting a new subrank already gives you 2 shields that protect you from deranking out with 2 losses>game is changed so that 3 wins in a row ranks you up a subrankdo you realize how many incompetent retards this would boost up multiple ranks? all they need to do is get lucky for 3 games and then they are relatively safe somewhere higher
Shiv is utter dogshit.In Phantom, to Ascendant, to Eternus.Complete and utter dogshit.He was really overpowered for a long time, but what they did to him makes Graves getting giganerfed look like a love tap.You have to work a 9-5 job and raise a family of four to get a kill in lane phase.Fucking hell.
>>577757203>>577757286>>577757490>Why don't I see Geist players cry as much as Silver ones
>>577759217I agree but he's unbalanceableHe's either OP as fuck or a troll pickZero inbetween.
>>577759349His 3 also passively reduces his lifesteal. Done.
WHY DOES STREET BRAWL STILL AFFECT STATS GIVE IT ITS OWN TAB
>>577757203Because Geist is nowhere near as worthless as Silver
>tankbuster reverb rem
>>577759502>misses pillow>echo sharts himself>misses the second pillow>flames team
>>577759336>Working class wolfgirl gets assaulted by perverted aristocrat until police intervene
>>577696885more people are playing vindicta and i hate thatshe is only mine and they will complsin about her stacks
So why did Drifter need silence in his fuckhuge AoE 7 second skill again?
>>577738156fuck no, his holliday skin is mediocre and the yamato one is hot garbage
>>577760430>why does the rapist character have rape built into his kit
why do some people get their nuts in a twist about not winning jeet brool and keep crying in chat
>>577759336How do you deal with a late game fed Geist anyways? Curse?
>>577760430Had zero issues with this character before they decided to give him ever available on demand CC, which this game is absolutely littered with and every team fight is cancer galore.It's just as annoying as ever available on demand mobility.
>>577759336another funny silver ragdoll. Upskirts herself
>>577761346Silences>FedDon't feed her
>>577748194>Just become something is complex does not make it better.I never argued Deadlock needed wards, but designing it so similarly to DOTA without it introduced new issues that need to be addressed.>It isn't really a "mind game" of wardsIt is, whether that be early game or late game.
>>577758429She's only really good at ripping apart slow character in a 1v1, which most anyone can do to begin with. She latches onto them and there's literally nothing they can do
Another game with 3 obscurus players on my team, let's see how it goes!
>>577755106She's arguably a top 3 character up until Phantom, then quickly falls off into D tier.
>>577762918why are you in brick 1?
I think what makes Geist good is that she has a clear win condition but unlike other carries she's extremely tanky so she's harder to focus or CC down
the numbers are a lie the game on the weekend at peak hours is only capable of fielding the same 20 players in a pool at phantom 2 on repeat. game is dead.
>>577760430absurdly annoyign that drifter would've been completely fucking fine currently even if they didn't give him silence. He'd still shit out damage, if anything his rend should just be a heavy slow or some sort of bleed effect to keep the cancer but at least let you fight back.
>>577763379>cheats
is aoe abrams even good or is he just budget victor and I should play victor instead? have not tried victor yet
>>577764670Do you mean buying ability range specifically, or spirit abrams? Because witchmail will give you charge off cool down over and over
So what do you build on Ginnis now?
>>577764781spirit abrams w/ witchmail, scourge, expansion, exposure, etc.
>>577747386>Your post reads as someone who hasn't played these games, which is fineyour smugness is insufferable. my riot account is likely older than your actual age, and saying league *as it is today and not as it was 15+ years ago* is more complex than deadlock while using vision and wards as an example of that complexity while mentioning not a single other system in deadlock by comparison is just as disingenuous as you claiming that i said "wards are meaningless", which i didn't. i specifically said "[wards] is not measurably complex" because you argued against nothing in deadlock and just threw wards out there as an arbitrary measurement of complexity. plus,i can just as easily say "movement is more complex" and we can shit fling until bump limit. im going to agree to disagree with you on this, largely because i didn't see you making a argument of comparison and are just instead arbitrarily saying "WARDS IN LEAGUE ARE COMPLEX" with no other thing you're comparing it to. not to mention, deadlock is still in beta, and if you want to compare apples to apples, feel free to look at the ward situation was at launch + oracles and how support depth boiled down to your soraka having nothing but gp5 and wards in her inv vs how you can manipulate wave aggro in deadlock to hide yourself on the map, giving everyone the agency to not be seen. im not even saying that makes deadlock is more complex, im just saying you mention nothing about it.>>577736743>I'd personally argue Overwatch players climb Deadlock easier, hence a lot of the top players being ex-Overwatch comp players or streamers.you can have this one, assuming its you. mechanics and aim are downplayed as something important in this game, especially in lane when early pressure and trades can make or break kills that turn into snowballs.
>>577764670depends on your playstyle and what contribution you want to makeaoe spirit abrams is a frontliner/initiator that won’t be making many kills but will provide cc, peel, and make spaceVictor is more of a hypercarry that your team depends on for consistent damage and duels with the enemy hypercarries
>>577765101Not who you were talking to but league made more sense to me but I only quit after an hour because it was so fucking boring, but I don't really play deadlock anymore because it's just too confusing to me
>>577765101You will never have sex
>>577760430>>577763594it should be a stamina silence instead.
>>577763379Why is her win rate so low then?
Can someone who is good at math tell me if Lucky shot or a 100% uptime Berserker is better dps?
>>577766729Yes.
>>577765856That or slowed instead.Full silence is bull
>>577765772bait.
t3 vitality item that gives a slight heal and movespeed boost every time a build-up effect stacks onto you.
>>577759336>>577763379plap plap plap
>>577767090My wife Haru
>>577721803>>577721928Sorry, but Valve wants their characters to look unique. Not "Coomer Slop No. 34296237548732563258757328"
New melee item that silences movement abilities and stamina on hit when?
>>577727827I think he meant TF2
>>577767351If crushing fists stole half stam on light and a full stam bar on heavy it would actually be worth something.
THIS GAME IS DEAD AS DOG SHIT LITERALLY ONLY A POOL OF 20 PLAYERS IN PHANTOM FOR HOURS.
>>577767765Are you surprised?No one with an actual job is Phantom yet
>>577767845I have 90% of these niggers premuted for griefing it's actually the most insufferable fucking games ever.
>>57776291850 minute game btw, I'm glad the matchmaking keeps putting unranked people in my team and none on theirs.
>>577768298the last 3 hours I've been getting nothing but niggers that go scores like this. of course the enemy team never has a feeder.
>>577768298Not playing a carry is such torture because they're SO important to the outcome and you might get a genuine mouth breather as a carry. So you're only choice is play it yourself
>>577768494as a professional feeder I've learned to never give up and never rage. You can always recover. I go 0-4 in lane but then I end up 8-5. You just keep going.
Haze and MickyG are such bullshit characters its insane how half the community thinks Vindicta is OP cause she can fly lmao.Literally the WORST M1 characters that require the team to use only 25% of their brain to win.You have so many things that just fuck the enemy, its crazy lmao.With just these 2 characters I went from Emissary to Phantom in a week of playing like 3-4 games a day.Crazy how half this game is "this character has a high skill ceiling and requires forward thinking" then the other half is "this character gets 2 insane CC abilities and just melts you by holding M1 and is rewarded for it"
>>577769190Fucking no one is saying Vindicta is OP what the fuck are you talking about she loses to one item
>>577767686It already reduces bullet resist by 30%, its a good item for defense shred
How do I die less on holliday?Thinking about just rushing cheat death
>>577769638>best mobility spell in the game>with charges>dyingHow bad are you, genuinely?
>>577769363anywhere that isnt this thread thinks Vindicta is one of the best DPS in the game lmao
>>577769868shut up
>>577770037learn to air strafe moron and youll never die again
>>577765101>i can just as easily say "movement is more complex"I was specifically talking about macro and amount of viable strategies there. I don't know why one anon thought I'm arguing Deadlock needs wards then the other thinks I'm praising complexity out of context.I'm simply saying without wards, Deadlock lacks risk management, which means mid game scaling characters simply don't have much agency.
>>577771125cont.And without risk management or any form of safety, people tend to play matches the same exact way because "players will optimize the fun out of a game".
>>577768934yeah bwo just don't give up when your dude is 5-23 at 40m he can totally stop being retarded. just any minute now!
>>577767262your wife is cute
>>577771485your dude who is 5-23 is supposed to not give up. if he's 23 though he's given up and probably smashing his keyboard and destroying his vocal chords.
Start rushing lighting scroll on mokrill
Jungle creep should have parry
I actually just uninstalled the game man. I'm just too shit. I have 1500 hours in this fucking game and all i do is lose over and over and over. I'm still going to end up downloading it again when the next update comes out but at least i'm free until then
>>577769363faggots (so reddit, twitch and youtube, surpissingly nothing xitter for once) are claiming that she is super OP, unbalanced, unfair and uncounterable.that faggot andrewchicken or whatever tried to ride that wave and is getting dunked by his own viewers lmao
>>577771832Just apply to be an EOMM agent so you get paid to lose games
>>577771934She's not OP, just annoying as hell, especially if she knows how to use Counter Spell well.Anyway, everyone's agenda posting these days. Did you guys know Sinclair is super over powered in the secret rank tomtom iv? We need an emergency nerf!
Kidnap Doorman keeps getting nerfed not because it's annoying but because yoshit is too retarded to fix any of the cart bugs and doesn't want to learn how to fix it.
>graves shits out 2 tombstones with refresher>sneak around to melee them>take like 2000 damage from zombies spawning ontop of me while im meleeing the tombstonesYoshit had a brown skin moment and didnt really think this one through, huh?
>yoshitracker website tracking deadlock development is down and goneuhhhhh guys? massive content patch soon since it's been 1 year since the last big update?
>>577773045hotpoo*ftfy
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>577773045>take like 2000 damage from zombies spawning ontop of me while im meleeing the tombstonesthis doesn't happen and has never happened because graves is a weak throw pick joke hero with 0 impact /dlg/ insists this is true
>>577773045Brick rank anons destroy the tombstones instead of getting free money. Interesting.
>>577773279>try risk of rain 2>it's abysmal dog shit that can be summed up by "lots of running away , lots of circles, instant death if you get hit ever">play other games>now have to deal with this retard's decision making in a valve game of all places
How strong is this item?1-2-3-4-5
>>5777743515 but it needs to be
blatty is a fucking retarded nigger. thanks for coming to my ted talk.
>>577774049>17 extra soulslol bricklows have no idea what kind of generational wealth this means at 20 minutes
>>577774124dont forget hopoo is BIG into black lives matter
>>577774756>every nigger character is opyeah real shocker there
>>5777743513
>>577774909Robin walker is the one who designed the niggerest heroes, though.
>>5777743512ish, it's way too easy to play around for the heroes that should be countered by it
Slow thread lately huh
>>577775474its a t2 item what would you want it to do
>>5777756457 months no content does that
>>577775645>>577776191all cocks on 'eck for the gabe gobbler tube coming 2030 so no new content
>>5777743515. Bricklows here just build it too late while celeste is already ass-raping them with her horsecock for it to make a difference.
>>577775645sauce?
>>577776454would be so hot if she had a cock
>>5777743515 until everyone buys dispel magic and turns it into a 2.
>mfw won 3 ranked games today and ranked upnot even gonna risk another, my mood is good and I'm smiling in satisfaction.
>>5777743512As strong as it is, it sure doesn't fucking work against the heroes that can teleport or run faster than the item can hit them.
>>5777743515, i love apollobabs seething when they can't do anything
>>577771832Just take the pure damage pill. The game is complete RNG, especially if you are solo queue. I've been using ethical builds, well balanced builds, buying counter items, and doing everything else as expected, but it's still complete bullshit RNG. If the enemy team wants to buy 10 counters against you, you can't do shit and buying defensive counters will hardly help. If it's going to be miserable and bullshit RNG, you might as well be blowing people up and playing feast or famine builds
rare game with one of those team mates that turns out just fine
Fact: Ivy and Viscous are the best designed characters in the game as they have the most viable build options.
uhhhhhwhy didn't my de-rank protections reset?
>>5777743513. Dictionary middle of the road counter item. Helpful but not ensured value.>>577780065trve
>watching NA Rat Rank>they have more comms than EU oracle
>>577780837>america>1 language>eu>dozens of languages
>>57778096375% of gamers west of Poland speak English
>>577777406the 3 game method is unironically how you rank up easily
>>577780963and they don't even sound right like what the hell does "achadurkadoo" even mean
would you let her?
>>577781182wdym. Like only 3 games a day?
>>577779893awesome name.t. not DarknessSephirothX
>>577781261play only 3 games or else yoshi notices you're trying to have fun and he sends the elo agents your way
>>577777075very true.
>>577780837This is why I switched servers from SA to NA, everyone speaking the same language is much better.
>>577781390Don't you freaks only have TWO languages? And they're almost the same?
>>577781249does she scrape and lick?
>>577781527dracula don't suck
>>577780065I'd put old Vinny in that category also, but they raped her into m1ggotry.
>>577781789>seven desperately begs dwiftah to suck out vypers poison
>>577781502They are close but not similar enough to understand when a brazilian monkey starts screaming on his mic during a fight, I'll rather take the 150 ping.
>>577781847I'm sorry anon but double stake might have been the most cancerous support CC builds ever. I'm glad that's gone I'd rather face cheating vindictas than double stake again.
>>577782084I understand them perfectly fine though
If I play Warden, Lash, and Geist, who are some other characters you guys would recommend to try?I don’t really think any of them have anything in commonMaybe bebop? Or Seven?
>>577781789That makes me wonder if Deadlock actually has Dracula somewhere.
I'm so sick of heroes doing everythingheroes need clearly defined roles and clear and obvious weaknesses because right now any hero that isn't an m1 can just do whatever the fuck they want and abuse all the items
please draw me your idea for Yamato's re-design, i promise not to steal it
>>577782556hard roles is the last thing this game needs
I feel like grenade geist really excels in team fights with AOEs, but damn gun geist is just so much better all aroundI love how people panic when you SUCC them though
>>577782783okay kirill senzudo the outfit of the new one you did but showing more skin like the old one and make her tits more big
>>577781390Fuck off our servers. Do better.
>>577782907>I feel like grenade geist really excels in team fights with AOEsNot really. Maybe it's EASIER damage but Geist is a frontliner, playing her as bomb is trolling your team which may have heroes like GT, Mina, or Venator who rely on you being in the front taking fire >team fight happens>tanky ass Geist is building spirit so she's sitting in the back waiting on her cooldowns>enemy can just hold W into your squishies and DPS >Geist goes "wtf look how much damage I did! How did we lose that fight?"Maybe if you draft additional frontliners for this oversight but likely you're one of two in a pub. So your Billy or Abrams takes double the fire and unlike you he doesn't shit out gun damage
>>577782805>the tank that gets strong hard cc and healing should also get spirit nukes and high gun damage to make up for being a tank <:)fuck you
>>5777743514Arguably too strong but necessary to the game.
>>577781502netanyahu's greatest don't actually communicate they just say some bullshit insult to anyone that isn't immediately talking like them, like this faggot here >>577782084
>>577772857the walker targeting was the biggest nerf to it, and it wasn't even a direct doorman nerf. it's quickly becoming a non-issue. doorman is still strong, but he's strong because of portals now and not because people play what was originally intended to be a support hero as a pick hero
>>577784129What do you mean by benji's greatest? South Americans on the whole? Non-brazilians in general? Or the contrary?I don't know anything about spics except what I see on here
I hate being shitlow and losing because we don't want to or can't push objectives even 4 men down because we're all playing some bullshit protagonist single target hero like billy doorman shiv calico and we have no DPS and one single sissy paige on the enemy team can clear our wave until all our advantage is gone fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
>>577783602Not my problem buddy
Vindicta is trans coded
venator is gay coded
Bebop is binary coded
doorman is poorly coded
Wraith is ___ coded
Silver is wife coded
I like the little icon haze has at critical
>wraith is creeping to 75% playratelmao
Start building utility/support graves
>bebop hooks my fat chungus dynamo ass into the middle of the rift team fight and I get a 4 man black hole I hope his team flamed him for that
Ivy is white men coded
>>577785924So what do you do if you buy disarm but she buys dispel
>>577785924there are only 3 viable m1 carries in this game. its horriblewraith seven or vyper
>>577786250bait out the dispel
>>577785924wow people must really like her character and design and totally not that she has a super powered kit
How was sunday deadtards? I skipped gaming this weekend since mathc quality turned to utter shite friday evening.
Someone said,”nice parry retard” on my team and I started crying on an open mic, is it over for me
>>577786372i lost my streak and a shield and it was mostly my fault :(
>>577786372Won 3/4 games. Pretty good day ngl
>>577785924>>577786332>queue any nonwraith m1gger>get into lobby>no wraith>no wraith ban>go wraith immediately before anyone else notices and goes wraith
playing billy on EU servers sucks because im more likely to be parried not because of reads but because the chance a ruskie is auto parry scripting in way higher
Goddamn why is it everyone can shit out so much damage level 1 except me>rem deals 270 damage>venator just shoots me>end up with 500 damage as soon as I get off the zipline
i'm confused... wasn't the matchmaking update meant to improve it?
Billy and Celeste need to be removed from the game, I'm 100% serious about this. Fuck it, do Doorman too.They are unhealthy, and there is never any period where they feel "just good enough" or "ok", they are either 100% overtuned pieces of shit, or they are worthless throw picks, it's never inbetween.Fucking remove them bro.
>nerf splitpushing>now most games are just who can deathball harder
>>577786812It did immensely for me but games went downhill so I took a break. I had a 90%wr since the matchmaking update since I finally stopped getting put against smurfs but it didn't exactly feelgood stomping noobs either. Ranked matches were a bit harder but felt like around 60ish maybe a bit higher games were intense than friday evening happend and suddenly everyone is angry and bad. Maybe the dotafags are watching the international or something idk.
>>577784271it's a brownzilian monkey complaining about Argentinians.
>>577780963>>577781052some post the eu lobby clipyou know the one
>mokrill gets Torment pulse and escalating exposure >he literally just wins the team fight by standing there
>just play wraith>match against nigger yamato and nigger apollo
>>577786834replace billy with silver and we have a deal.
>0/16 retarded russian nigger drifterKILL ALL RUSSIANS
>>577786372lost every game, as per usual
>>577787976>KILL ALL RUSSIANSHET!
>>577786332Yeah man I don't get Ivy players
>>577786332I almost enjoy playing wraith with this mod.
>>577786834Billy doesn't seem good in lane
>>577786812>i'm confused... wasn't the matchmaking update meant to improve it?It's the same dogshit matchmaking now with a retarded ranked system and requirements.
>>577787696LIFTING disables like half their kits
>LIFTING
>>577785929Give me a build anon-sama.
I want to play deadlock but at the same time i know there's a 90% chance i'm just going to queue with retard teammates, lose, lose rank and not have fun. I just can't bring myself to actually open the game anymore
It's a shame, I liked playing holliday before they changed her barrels and just made her op for no reason. She was so fucking honest. now she's op
Which os the popular streamers are not getting back into Eternus? Deathy and Metro for sure. Lystic maybe.
>metro's stream title since ranked got added was "speed run to eternus">he's still in Phantom
>>577790369>metroDoes he know?
>>577706557No, make it so she has halved jump height.
>>577703734There is no place for gweb in deadlock. Deadlock champs need to normed to a healthy bmi.Gweb is a little bit to chubby for deadlock. Sorry, but yoshi is kinda racistWHen will yoshi add buckethead to deadlock? Feels like the guy fits the game perfectly
Graves should have been a big booty black teen
>>577707005Venator, you kick traps 24/7, hit sick grenade arc shots that ruin their healing, if they get uppity and get close you shotgun them into a wall and heavy melee for 50% of their health bar, then you roll up to the team fight with some blessed holy judgement ira domine and instakill 3 of them. Downside is you're slow as fuck.
>Deadlock thread on /v/ using an in-game screenshot of the game>Lash's shirt has like a Deltarune symbol or some shit>thread gets flooded with undertale faggotsWtf
>>577788970>>577789196remember when the chain used to slowly crawl to you and you could actually reposition it? now it's just instant and impossible to react to, only predict with counterspellthey should revert it
>paradox and billy in a lane>they do ok>they take a bad fight and billy escapes with 10 hp and paradox doesn't get a kill>paradox tilts and refuses to play anymorethanks yoshi
>>577758429>No memeing I dont think Silver is good at anything >she sucks>she BLOWSYou're contradicting yourself. Would those not be things she's good at?
>>577715721>even though I am pretty sure weed is completely destroying the circulation in my legsUh no, don't do things you know are bad for you. Just get a tasty drink.
There should be a 15 game bot match win requirement before you can queue Standard.
>>577791228silver, how many beers have you had... that's not the cue ball...
>>577790983when are they going to admit their faggy "game" just isnt good
I discovered if you disconnect and reconnect to the zipline a couple seconds after taking off at the beginning of a street brawl it gives you a speed boost
>>577791456What do you mean? You already have to play a specific amount of games to enter ranked.I have 900 streetbrawl games and cant queue rankedyet
>>577791456im actualy so excited for the new content update not for the content, but for the influx of new players who will be put into the cesspit that is standard.i imagine we will most like have 0 new player retention and the reviews will be full of people spamming about how horrible this game is due to unbalanced teams/feeders
>>577791456I agree, hard bot teammates dont know how to splitpush and brool 24/7 so unironically it's good training for map control
i love when enemy team gets wraith and 2 frontliner its insta lose in phantom very cool yoshi i love this mm and meta!!!! thank you for lose streak
>>577791456Kek this. And there should be a 15 game brawl requirement to queue bots
>>577791572Yeah thats got to be leftoverr code from when streetbrawl came out cause like every other round you could do that but you would zoom in at hyper speed way before anybody else would get in lane but they patched it but not really
>>577788970>ult yamato>they just ult and kill me>ult apollo>somehow doesnt stop him from using riposte
>>577790768>Downside is you're slow as fuckThis is such a massive fucking downside too.>Harder to get out of fights>Harder to get to fights>Harder to chase people down>Harder to press a lead while maintaining enough farmI get why high mmr think he's op but for the rest of the 90% he's feast or famine since your team is never going to protect you in soloQ and good positioning can only stall a loss since if you try to playmake you have no escape and are easily caught.
>>577791572Same, i've yet have to discover a proper usecase for this though other than throwing ball lightning in early
>>577791628They also all focus you and your bots start underperforming if you are having a good game.
>>577791702>i love when enemy team gets wraithBAN HERIF SHE IS OPEN PICK HERIF SHE GOES THROUGH MAY THE LORD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL
>decide to try a new hero in Standard>get the most abysmal dogshit teammates ever seen>this happens consistently every time I try a new heroWhy does this keep happening? What the fuck is going on with Standard matchmaking? Some Russian retarded screaming in his 2 ruble microphone as he dies for the 6th time in 9 minutes with 8 confirmed last hits and 1k damage dealt on Drifter. It's not even his first game it was at least his 10th. Ends the game with a total of 16 deaths and 0 kills as he yells how everyone else is useless with 24k damage dealt in a 40 minute game. We cannot be serious.
What's the Scourge but for gun?
>>577792337Heroic aura
Melee Apollo.
>>577792285hidden mmr and puts people with a less played hero in a lower rank
what's the worst possible build
>>577793271spirit ven maxxing trap last
>>577793271Silver
>>577793271gun mokrill
>>577792003I find more success as him when playing defensively and making them deal with me and come to me instead. What are they going to do, just let me have their walker? I can just keep kicking out traps and pushing the wave into walker even when there's 3v1 if I don't overextend and keep kicking out traps and shooting grenades I was holding down a 5v1 doing that today. They killed me eventually of course but I wasted an ungodly amount of their time as more of them kept showing up.
>>577793221I don't even believe that because I regularly see people with 10s of games on their heroes. Sometimes I'll even encounter people with 100+ in these fucked games. Yoshi fuck off with this retarded shit
>>577793271melee rem
what if mina was good
>>577793971hairy?
>>577792285They cranked up hero mmr for standard so you get placed way lower
>>577793971Mina thinks she's a vampire but she's just a succubus
buff silver
>>577791228I want to berry my face into Silver's ass.
>>577794281ummmmm shes S+++++ tier though? havent you seen the tier liests?
Swisches her big fluffy $$$$-ing tail really fast
>>577794485She should swish her big fluffy fucking tail more
>>577793971catbox full I don't want to remember xitter login.
>>577794645have you tried scatbox.moe?
>>577786812they didnt do an actual rank reset so it changed literally nothing
>>577786372>This is what the Patrons see in Wardens mind when he sees Calico and Wraith
how do infernus players justify doing 3000 passive damage just by holding left click for 2 seconds and pressing 2 buttons
>>577795616hehe, you see that shit?
>>577795616How do McNiggis players justifiy doing 70% of their damage without player input?
>>577795616we don't, we all play him specifically because we know he's bullshit. hehehehe
>>577795616Do you think the average player feels any remorse for whatever bs they do to the opposing team?
>>577795616>"I just applied afterburn, toxic bullets and spiritual overflo- aaand they have dispel and plated...."
>>577795828>>577795717Why does he laugh bros?
>>577795993Just reapply them, are you stupid?
>>577796161leftover from when he was cool in the alpha release.
heheh you smell that shit?
>>577796356and with plated armor, the retard infernus dies before he can reapply them.bread and butter infernus is to apply all his dots and debuffs, throw cocktail, then run away.if he has to stay to reapply and cocktail is naturally dispelled, then he has no survivability reapply
>>577796161He finds joy in causing pain and chaos despite having put it behind him in favor of morals. It's like the main thing with his character is that he's afraid that he'll go back to being a menace to society after the ritual because he enjoys it too much.
>>577796381Infernus has one of the best designs in the game
Paradox is way better than pocket but the small player base of this game hasn't realized it yet
>>577797036it's because it's classic noir, I'd rank Geist and Abrams after him than I suppose the rest is up for debate.
>>577797106While I agree on the noir topicGeist has the second best design imoAnd both of them have the top design because of the strong color palletsAll the other characters have too many colors imo
>>577797306I agree, Abrams is too.... Blue. He should've had a brown jacket since he's a private detective and not a state detective; afaik. Also I miss the symetrical horns, yeah it looks good and adds character but he's already Blue Hellboy no need to make that more true.
Whats the startup command I need to input if I want more solo only games?
>>577797461I can’t wait to see Yamato’s, GT’s, Warden’s, and Bebop’s visual updates
nerf mo&krill
>mina shoots you 3 times and rapes you with 800 damage pre 10 minsso what the fuck am i supposed to do against this?not play i guess
>>577797787I'm very used to the mod, will be real sad if they come out with something worse than this.
Item update this week trust
>>577798348rusted barrel + slowing hex
>>577798440this guy literally works at valve now
>>577798348
>do the most amount of damage on my team>I'm the only teammate that bothers to do sinners>enemy team focuses me and constantly ambushes me while my teammates sit in jungle all game>lose because they also bought counter items specifically for me>I counterbuy one or two items>my teammates of course don't counterbuy at allAlright Yoshi, I'm getting real sick of this EOMM bullshit.
I FUCKING LOVE PLAYING SHIV YOU STACKED 4+ KNIVES ON SOMEONE? DISPELLED YOU WANNA DASH , ULT AND M2 MOVEMENT? SLOWING HEXED YOU WANNA KILL SOMEONE WITH ULT? STRAY BULLET HIT AND KILLED THEM SO FUN THANK YOU YOSHI I LOVE BEING IN PHANTOM SO FUN
>>577799004shiv is easily the worst character in the game rnI'm sorry you had to find this out the hard way
>>577798440While I didn't much care for the "leak" I really hope they don't just use the mod and call it a day. I want to see what Valve can cook up I want sexy Yamato
>>577799181The big hat is STUPID
>>577799181HOOCHI MAMAWELL YABBA DABBA DOO, WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?!
>>577792081Maybe a mcginnis wall so your team can take positions without being seen
>>577799104both of my mains (shiv and silver) are fucking dogshit rn i can't unlock a different hero either standart is just putrid dogshit now unless u 6 stack its never been more over genuinely
>>577799181I really hope that the idea of her turning into a Yokai during ult would be used in the reworked designIt was in one of the concept arts I think
>>577798978>EOMMand how does this game use eomm exactly? It seems like its strictly just sbmm to me
>>577798027what's that? you wanted a buff?
>>577787658yep, nerf mokrill
Item mute mechanics when?
What a nice itembuild roll for mo krill.
>>577799536b-bleed... or whatever
>>577800451"rolls" do not matter since they made probabilities weighted based on the hero
>>577800594It somewhat does, not when you play random champ though since you get 2 rolls per wheel instead of 1
>2 games in a row with a Viscous in my team doing shit like cubing me after I parry someone or knocking me out of a killJesus man
>>577800704it looks at the same pool of items tho
>>577793271the one my stupid faggot lane partner is building
>>577799887https://github.com/SteamTracking/Protobufs/blob/master/deadlock/citadel_gcmessages_server.protoIf you look through this,you'll see that the game deliberately tracks A LOT, and I mean, A LOT OF variables about each individual player.It basically creates an individual "skill index/skill profile" for each player, and then condenses them those players into a team comp based on their win streak/loss history.I mean, are you really surprised though? This game uses the most degenerate player retention shit like ranks and seasons, same as Marvel Rivals. I wouldn't be surprised if their EOMM went even deeper than that; they are Valve after all.
i literally dont understand how people can stand the shame of playing bebop and not hooking someone for 20+ minutes mid/late game. any they have hundreds of bebop games
can we talk about how celeste winrate shot up from about 45% to 52% when people realized you just build radiant regen and never die, but also scale infinitely?
>>577801468yeah but not in Valve HQ
>Enemy has Graves/Doorman>Switch to SinclairGame has really been a lot more fun once you can just rape these mystical herampions instead of instalosing when there are no tools to deal with em
>>577801243What degen shit am I supposed to be seeing here?
>>577802196scroll down a little more
>>577802121The best by far is when you see a silver.But it's not the greatest without gun items.
holliday is literally me
What I want to see is Calico redesign because she's so unbeliveably ugly and lacks any kind of personality outside of having a cat on the back.
>Dispell Warpstone CounterspellOkay now I can play the game
>>577802274Got to the bottom. Where is it? Or are you just having a schizo moment because they collect generic match data like you're literally told they do, most of which they show you, and that you should be expecting as part of a playtest?
>>577798440I prefer this one honestly even if the proportions are a bit wonky.
ok found a fix for my fps issue.NEVER spectate games or watch replays, or if you do, restart the game. fps hasn't dropped to 20 since ive stopped doing that
>>577799181>>577799560With a seppuku casting animation.
>>577803329Not him but only real EOMM I notice is if I take a long break I come back and stomp the shit out of people compared to if I was no lifing the game. I don't really believe that is EOMM so much as valve grouping me with people who also did not put a lot of hours recently into deadlock.
>>577802121anon that guy is already losing the game because of graves and you want to twist the knife like that?
>>577801468No, it shot up after Yoshi buffed her ult for no reason whatsoever and people started Mid Boss maxxing, which previously was not viable.
this is a great game because if you don't have wraith, seven, or vyper on your team you just lose
>>577802121>>577802397When I feel like loccing again going to get back to spamming this guy. I feel myself slowly getting closer to being useful just need to figure out how to carry with him.
>>577803723I make it a minigame to hunt her all game and spam the ult since sinclair naturally wants extended duration and max ult asap anyway, often get more ult damage than graves herself
>>577803869The trick is no to queue with him max prio because people do counterpick if they see sinclair but he's a great situational choice, eats absolute shit against specific comps tho
>>577804034>The trick is no to queue with him max prio because people do counterpick if they see sinclair but he's a great situational choiceuh duh. I mean I could do that if I wanted to swap to someone else to maybe bait a swap.>eats absolute shit against specific comps thoYeah figuring that out will take time.
>>577803667Most systems just have rank decay where it gets less certain of where you belong if you haven't played for like a month.
>>577804279I don't really hardcarry but I do shut down heroes like Graves and Doorman pretty good.Max Ult or Bunny first, T2 in bolt/Spectral assisant in laneVortex web, mystical range, Extended Duration, wait in team fights for that perfect moment, also I like rescue beam because if you stand around the corner for the timing at least you can pull out people getting got so they don't mald. Veil walker and shadow weave are also great.I don't really fuck with mystic burst and tanker buster because it's just hard to fit in and sinclair is so squishy he's meant to disrubt and fuck up the enemy during team fights not really nuke with damage and he's pretty squishy anyway. 4+ seconds of bnuy can turn a game easily
i'm banning paradox. I will never unban paradox. I am so fucking tired of getting 10k damage swapmissers on my team and getting 6000000 damage hall of cost monstrosities on the enemy team
>>577804863>doesn't get bannedUH NOT SO FAST BUDDY
>>577804863>gets bannedLIFTING
>>577804863>hall of costlol
kill yoshi buff shiv
>>577805358understood, shiv's blades no longer refresh or stackrage passive removed
>>577804863Of all the characters in this game, you choose to ban humble, honest Paradox
>Thinks Infernus is cool>Wishes she hated Apollo moreGraves is a demon-chaser
>>577804863The most avoidworthy chracters are those who can only be absolute demons or completely useless like Paradox or in my case Rem. I have Rem avoided because he's insufferable to play against if he's good, and actively makes you lose the game if he's bad
>>577805618the bombs and walls get real anoying real fast but he wants to ban her for her swap for ??? reasons so who knows.
>>577803331>>577798440why does every beloved yamato remodel mod give her this lesbian girlboss aesthetic i dont like it
>>577805749because you're low t.
>>577805643they should change graves gun to this so it actually has range but keep the auto aim
Liquor: DrankPTT button: UnbindedMusic: StartedProgrammer socks: OnYup, its ranked deadlock time
victor feels like shit now. i dont think ive lived for more than 10 on my first life ever
>>577806340wow almost like he's balanced.
>>577806194based mina main
>>577806476his hero line is literally "you can't kill me"
3 years of lash being a god tier broken pick
>>577806654Yeah, because he comes back. You respawned, didn't you?
>celeste horsecock increased by 3.5 inchesenjoy the patch before we leave on fall vacation t. icejeet
>>577806854It'll be 10 btw
>>577808207As long as they also buff Silver's bush density that's fine
>>577808505Silver's canon girlfriend is a shaved enjoyer, though.
>>577806854I dare say Lash is the best designed hero in the game and is remarkably fair in comparison to the AIDS kits that Yoshi puts out on the reg.
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>>577805618there is 0 things honest about carbine
>>577809224Pre public playtest Paradox was even worse.
>>577803331this has better colors at least and no oversized beads
