#31: Ultimate Summer For Me? EditionPrevious: >>577622659>hololive Dreams>Current eventUltimate Summer For Me?Until 8/27 (Thu) 7:59 PM (JST)https://x.com/holo_dreams_en/status/2088838160646090951Training Support MissionsUntil 8/31 (Mon) 4:59 AM (JST)https://x.com/holo_dreams_en/status/2086286355814818300>Current bannersHeat-Steeped Summer DayUntil 8/28 (Fri) 22:59 PM (JST)>Newsholodori Photo ContestUntil 8/21 (Fri) 11:59 PM (JST)https://x.com/holo_dreams_en/status/2081998546065310016>DownloadPlayStorehttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=game.qualiarts.hololive.dreams.comAppStorehttps://apps.apple.com/us/app/hololive-dreams/id6756641249Steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4282500/hololive_Dreams/>SocialsX (formerly Twitter)https://x.com/hololive_dreams (JP)https://x.com/holo_dreams_en (EN)Youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/@hololivedreamsOfficial Discordhttps://discord.com/invite/hololive-dreams>ResourcesWebsitehttps://www.hololive-dreams.com/enTrailerhttps://youtu.be/KWkNV57HJe4Unofficial Databasehttps://holodori.best/Tierlistshttps://game8.jp/hololive-dreams/800829https://appmedia.jp/hololive-dreams/80235364Stampshttps://gofile.io/d/5cQvcS++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>holoIndie>NewsHololive Fantasy Battle out now on Switch and Steamhttps://x.com/holo_bato/status/2085652167172710732>Websitehttps://ccmc-corp.com/en/holoindie/>Cataloguehttps://store.steampowered.com/publisher/holo_Indie>HoloCurehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2420510/HoloCure__Save_the_Fans/>Holo-Strikehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3984450/HoloStrike/>Hololive Fantasy Battlehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4003770/Hololive_Fantasy_Battle/
>>577737626i seriously hate being poor, but they need to give us more for free
I'm only at like 760k score still cause I refuse to pump tons of exp into my team so they're at lvl 56 still just leveling up by doing songs...
>>577737701they really dont need to do these giveaways if they're more generous with the red diamond income
>>577737701Even on leddit I've now seen people notice that once the initial burst of achievements dries up you don't really have a way of getting much in terms of red gems at all each week or month. Yeah you'll start out with about enough for a pity if you do a lot and get lots of achievs but then? That's pretty much it...
>only one character I care about in the bannerkind of difficult to roll on it
How many girls do you all have who you'll go all out for?For me it's 5, though they'd probably have terrible synergy. And one of them isn't even in the game yet.
>>577737701get a job
>>577738814Just my oshi
>>577738814Only one. She had many events, merch, etc. all year long. Gacha is probably the first thing to cut.
>>577738098ledditchamas......
kek I think we broke the troll
>>577737701go give a decent feedback and next month you may get more red gems
>>577738814Only CC and GG
>>577738814Two: Fubuki and CC
>>577738814Two but I might roll on this banner for Mori or Ina just because I didn't roll on the last two.
>>577739341>>577739321Based fellow CC enjoyers. Imagine her summer outfit...
>>577739487We have to wait an entire year for even a chance at it...
>>577739487CC banner will take this game to #1
It kinda pisses me off a bit when a gen that only has 3 members gets one of them with "with 2 or more of your gen, boost their [stat]" which isn't even the stats they use so you'd have to hope some future limited release of the other girls will be that..
>>577738814Just my oshi who's in this banner so I guess I'm gonna roll then not touch the gacha for who knows how long
Have any of you played other gacha rhythm games like the THE IDOLM@STER ones prior to this?
>>577737701should've invested in bitcoin 15 years ago
>>577738814only my oshi
>>577739857No, this is my first rhythm game ever and it's actually really fun. I can't wait for them to add more songs
>>577739857no gachano rhythm gameno mobile gameno touch screen gameno game with cute girls
>>577739857This is my first time playing a rhythm game in my life so I'm just a two finger chump who can clear the easier hards at best
>>577739857played LLSIF and Bandori a short whilethough just casually for the songs, not playing at expert level or ranks
>>577739857I haven't. I masturbated and played (but definitely masturbated a bunch) to Azur Lane and Blue Archive before. And a bit of Epic Seven.
>>577740209also smiled a bit seeing they have Snow Halation and Firebird
>>577739857DDR
>>577739857first rhythm game, thumb user. i was completely ignorant to most of their music stuff too so its pretty great to experience it all like this
>>577739669This is like worst case scenario for event Ayame. Her outfit boosts technique for gen 2, but there's no other gen 2 techniques. Not to mention that Shuba already got an outfit, so you would have to wait and hope that an eventual event Choco ends up maining technique
>>577740527What about Mori and Ina?
>>577739929mfw i fucked around with bitcoin on /b/ when it was brand new but traded it all away when the novelty wore off
>>577739669Just gives a reason to anti the ones that quit
>>577740469I've watched and listened to a lot of holo stuff before but I gotta say this game has definitely made me give second chances to some songs I didn't warm up to in the past. It's a great way to experience holo music.
>>577740776I would have genuinely killed myself.
>>577740776I also sold a bunch of bitcoin way way back for some 300 bucks and got myself a monitor with that. Fucking hell man...
>>577739857I've played starlight stage and bang dream
>>577739857i used to play LLSIF and Starlight Stage back then, which are both very generous with free gems and lasted almost 10 years before going EOS., so they're my benchmark for a successful rhythm mobage.
>>577740656Event Mori is flexible. She just needs another cute sense member. Event Ina is pretty strict since she needs another Myth member who mains sense so you kinda have to roll Mori if you want to use her. Unless you want to bet on an event sense Kiara in the future
>>577739857I've always played rhythm games like Taiko, Theatrhythm and Project Mirai/Diva but not gacha rhythm. The rhythm game part is solid and being free to play with no stamina system (boost aside) is nice, but the scoring and event point system being based around gacha units kind of worries me with how bad it might get in the future when the power creep starts getting to the point where the starter 5-stars become unusable
something's really bothering me about holodori events: why the fuck are there no event SRs?
>>577739857I only played SIF back then. I despise gacha as a monetization system and the only two reasons why I play this game is because there's my oshi and I love Hololive song.
>>577741582I will never, ever understand how a gacha rhythm game even makes sense.
They should give some new units bonuses like "if you have two or more members with at least D cup breasts" and such
>>577741582unfortunately, it's just the natural course for a mobage if it wants to survive. if initial SSR's are still viable in 5 years time, there will be no reason to pull for new things, that's why powercreep (planned obsolescence) is a thing in mobage
>>577739857anything similar that i've played is taiko!osu
>>577741740>Play rhythm game for free>Pay for cosmetics, leaderboard competition, and extrasIt's pretty simple, frankly.
>>577741582I don't chase score. I only chase the maximum amount of optimization I can get with my current setup. That's fun enough for my standard. The score is just a bonus. I will only swipe for membership, battle pass, and my oshi's banner.
When are they adding thisIt's the best EN group songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wO8d70KSXw
>>577739570Bro in one year you'll get her default outfit and then you'll wait up to one more year for her first new outfit
I hope they add some kind of rewards for adding/playing with friends
>>577739857Lmao noI did play Lanota back in the day tho, the spinning circle made for way cooler charts and the level select map changing as you perfect the songs was cool
>>577737626>https://store.steampowered.com/app/4003770/Hololive_Fantasy_Battle/The character proportions in this look weird as fuck. Like their legs should be half that length.
>>577741665I don't think they'll add any 4*s at all outside of the base roster
>>577741991Yeah, but what you pay for should at least affect the gameplay, right? In a gacha rhythm game, everything is basically the same, just with different multipliers.
>>577740776I remember being on /b/ back then and getting scared off by the pyramid scheme posters...I seen people talking about how they mined hundreds of coins per day...
>>577742278>that price tag
Give me the songs of the members in the game but not playable
>>577739857Touhou Danmaku Kagura, even if it was JP only. I played it from the very beginning until DeNA EOS'd it, I loved that game so much and I also own it on PC, but it's not the same. I also tried Proseka but I didn't like it overall, between the generally unlikeable OCs to the horrendous charts in higher difficulties.
>>577741334I really hate these gen-locked skills.With the type based ones you can almost always get some kind benefit out of it without going out of your way, but with the gen ones you're stuck bringing along one of two to four girls for the rest of time, whether you like them or not.
>>577742484the members of what?if you mean all of them, there's way too many
>>577738098Events. That’s the source of free gems right now. Their dailies and missions give free gems and not to mention the event rank rewards. You should be able to get to platinum if you’re halfway decent at the game
i actually enjoy playing Mega Circuit
>>577742293I'd say an event giving out 4* on a new FES is a possibility, with everyone having the new uniform.
>>577742597which server? Try getting above silver if you're not whaling in Asia server.
>>577742732I enjoy looking at Anya's cute face!
>>577742732I like Fall guys at home as well
>>577742592All the girls they put ingame (like Mumei, Gura, Shion, Chloe etc.) but who aren't playable. They have some great songs.
>>577742597>Their dailies and missions give free gemsYeah, like 500~ from missions and 20 a day for 14 daysThat's less than a 10-roll
>>577742732Once they patch out the Mario Kart Wii skips, I'll enjoy it more
>already 12 new cards in less than 1 monthAt this pace, you will have more chances to roll for one of the new cards than the base roster in 4 months. The holodori gacha is doomed to be obsolete if they dont add those new cards in any way.
>>577743161Now I want them to remove all of them after trying to farm free chat and realizing they can't switch Chloe out of Holohome.
>>577743295they already did. though the rankings reset would happen later.
>>577742278I kinda get the look they're going for but the girls need to be more chibi sized. It looks really cursed as is
>>577743309to be fair, there are 50 members in hololive. they have to shit out new cards fast so everyone gets a new card. funny thing is that every new card from here on will always be an SSR
>>577743161I hope this never happens solely out of spite that even if it did I still wouldn't get the Aqua songs I crave.
>>577742278>>577743597the art is by a somewhat well known holo fan animator that animates clips.
>>577743618When the newest members get added they'll need their 3* and 4* variants
>>577742828
I have a mighty need
>>577745996>seed
>>577742323Affect the gameplay in what way?There's not much they can do in that regard outside of things like Life Up and skills that lock you to PERFECTS, and skilled players don't use/need either of those.
>>577746548That’s why it’s such a weird mix of genres for me. In puzzle or action games, different skills can make you play the game differently. I can’t think of a similar scenario for rhythm games.
I'm really curious as to what new area(gamemode) they'll add in the future.
I don't really want to pull on a banner if I'm risking getting a 5 star Mori "booty stank based bbc enjoyer" Calliope tbdesu
>>577745996Dare I say it's more erotic than even Noel's?
>>577748308If only the shoes were off am I right.....
>>577748436You are correct but only if there are also barefoot plap sounds when her chibi runs around.
>>577748289
>>577748308HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER
>>577748308won't water mess up all those seams with stitches
>>577748919COVER PLEASE I NEED THIS
>>577749283the water will turn brown once she enters
>>577748919Fuck I wish
big holowork
>>577737626I see so many people in social media defending the stinginess of this game like it's a common thing in rhythm gacha games and you should be used to it, excuse me but could someone pls enlighten me what game are they referring to? Because I payed deresute, mirishita and bandori on release day and I don't remember struggling this much with pulling even the banners were like at most 2 idols a week and not 5, I don't think the 5% rate justifies this considering you are more likely to get an offbaner unit.
>>577751610I don't defend the practice even a little since they're clearly stingy about every resource except fucking auto tickets but to be a little fair there is a banner that increases the rate for the one you want.
>>577751610It is a common thing in rhythm gacha games, but there are degrees to it.ProSeka has an awful reputation for roll income and this game's worse than that.They're probably just parroting what they've heard.
>>577751610Corporate bootlickers that probably don't even play the game or ever heard of hololive
>>577748919>>577750814>>577752381they will bring it back BUT will turn it into a sundress with shorts
>>577753147If ollie can get a very revealing bikini, why can't she?
another bad thing about the large roster is that I still don't have my oshi's 4* even after rolling quite a lot of SRs. and you can only get it from gacha.
>>577743926Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that's why the body length is fucked up looking to me, isn't their Holo art normally chibi/SD proportioned?
>>577738814Literally just my oshi, and even then it would be iffy if I stick with this game in the long run because $400 for a single pity pull is downright absurd with the lack of red gems currently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvC7SqK3UXMWatch Polka's awesome new MV! She's a cool hero!!!
Gotta get my scores back up for NePoLa since I fell out of their top 100...
>>577753804clussy
>>577753804Great MV. I love polka's voice
>did 3 songs for ollie to prep for pulling for her sexo swimsuit>hit the top 10 without her on my team and when i only gave her some red nodes only though i do have her 5* costumesorry zomrade i pushed out.. i wanted top 100..
>banner mixing JP with engloids and indogsWell there goes the hope of save banners.
>>577754653go to back /vt/ brownoid
>>577754892>projection
>>577755285i'm pale white as snow, now go back already
>>577754892there's no reasoning with these type of woman brained posters, better to not engage at all imo
You'd think being mad about that kinda thing constantly would make you find another hobby or interest.
>>577752318People only see the %5 and go "well, odds are too high so it balances it out" but the problem is game has no way to recover back gems or any 3-4 stars to at least make you feel a bit less sad about not hitting anything if you decide to gamble. 2500 gems they throw at us were for hitting the top spot in sale charts but I doubt that's gonna continue that way as they literally started off with swimsuit gacha in honeymoon phase. Also I don't know why they are not even talking or saying anything about the optimization, I got a decent phone but after 30 minutes of playing even with everything heavy turned off I still can't get steady 120fps and at certain points backplate of the phone becomes too hot. No wonder they sent the girls iPad pros with M4s as anything else has a decent chance of showing how shit the optimization is.
>>577753804how many times has polka saved the world now?
>>577755525ahh!!! creatura!!!!!!
>>577755791what did you just call her
It's time
popopo
>>577753804very nice
>>577755584>nyoo you have to roll for my coalburning oshi!!You're confused on who is mad here.
>>577755627I suspect they are trying to milk the initial wave of hype before eventually dialing back the unforgiving gacha/pity rates and adding more ways to farm red gems to keep the ftp players around. We just have to wait for the initial player base activity to fall off before they make those changes, because like hell is anyone other than whales going to drop $400+ on a banner that's not their oshi.
>>577756127Po is actually one of my favourite tracks to play
https://youtu.be/D7kDRzVDMPIFor anyone not wanting to pull cause of Ollie, perhaps this shall change your mind
>>577756494I only play it at 5 am.
>>577756654I dont like Ollie because she is a sex offender(ugly) and not a rizzler(funny) like gigi
>>577756654https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7odD3nAJpGU
Lol
nom nom nom
>>577756467holy cope.
>every day the game defaults my team setup to ayame leader even though I never use her as leader, I don't have her team set up, and the team score is terribleWhat does she want from me....
>>577757219are you korean?
>>577757219You owe her sex
>>577757219are you still recruiting members? that kept happening to me
>>577757219I had that happen to me for a while with Sora when I was doing mems songs with them as leader. I think it happens when you don't update your leader on mobile or pc maybe because it stopped happened after I changed my leader on the devices I play.
>>577757290No, and she would avoid me in that case, not constantly try to join my team.
>>577755791
>>577757219That's a big problem with recruiting new members, yes.After the live with the forced leader, you're defaulted to the first team set up (cards in slots), in holomem sort order.Best you can do is setup a team on a Gen 0 or 1 member you like.
>>577757219She streamed recently and her power still lingers
>>577757532where did this even originate? i assume this is an edit but surely the meme comes from somewhere
>>577757219
Is there a renewable source of music disks to unlock songs from the song library? I don't see any way to buy them.
>>577757858lolno, you're fucked, anon
>>577757858Nope. Just be patient for now
There's falling down from the face mountain encounter. Do you have a video of it?
>>577757858How many songs are you missing after going through all the disks?
>>577757858we get 10 more like tomorrow or something
>Ollie seems like an amazing unit and I actually like her>But no mats to upgrade her and even if I did, I would need a fully bloomed team to leaderboardI have 30,000 red gems. Do I roll? My only other chase cards would be from an Okakoro banner or Justice.
I don't mind spending but I would still prefer some semblance of free gem income so I don't blast 1k+ because of my shit luck.
>>577758398>But no mats to upgrade herWe're getting a free care package with a shitton of mats >>577724916
>>577758398They're about to give us a decent chunk of mats but keep in mind that those previews are the units at 5 bloom and max level. I'm planning to get her but unfortunately she's happy and I run through those mats like candy.
>>577758585>no honolulium
>>577758398you need 50k gems for pity.
>>577758736True, I'm expecting the event to have some
>>577757219Happens to me but with Roboco. I don't mind, Roboco is adorable.
I'm already beyond fatigued from jump rope/cooking minigame slop. They need to allow full 200 stamina boost for this shit at the very least.
>>577737701>>577738098Imagine believing Cover wasnt going to go full jew with this
>>577758118I have 19 disks left, but 31 songs remaining to unlock from the look of it.
>>577758398I will wait and see how she improves my team. Even so, I'm starved for upgrade materials.
I've seen multiple free chats multiple times times in past 20 minutes and got like 5 achievements for 10 chats. Give me one with my oshi already!
They'll do something about itThe girls have been complaining on stream and Twitter tooTrust the plan
>>577758704>keep in mind that those previews are the units at 5 bloom and max levelNTA but I was about to say that those stats seemed a little too good
what time does the new banner and event go live?
>>577759912New one! Not the same old one twice
>>5777602027 hours for gacha16 hours for event
>>577759924>will end up maxing out her card trying to get Calli
>>577761267Nah, she'll luckshit Mori like she did when she got her 3*,4*, and 5* at the same time but will max out her card trying to get Luna
>>577757769She didn't reply to Ina's illustration of herself
Make sure to get in your last minute placements!
>>577762256wut?
>>577757858Disc and gem incomes are assPersonally I'm betting on them eventually improving them to not drop the game
>>577762254i more meant ayame's hate for koreans than that specific image but thanks for clarifying
>>577758585That's like one unit
>>577757858Im still holding on to like 38 discs
>>577762403Member scoreboard placements if you care about that.
>>577762256still in top 10 but probably going to fall out next week, I haven't decided if I'll pull this banner I kinda wanna save but also Ollie and Mori would be good for my team
>>577762821It's kinda really hard to care about that when the badges get thrown away the week after
>>577763674I don't blame you but for people who might have forgotten about it and wanted to make sure to stay top 1k or 100 or something might need the reminder.
>>577759912They hate us bro..
>>577763550Here's the thing: with each banner there will be increasingly good units for your team. Unless you plan to whale, way better to save for a pull you absolutely want for right now until they eventually add more ways to get red gems.
>>577762821Oh yeah, the week went past fast. I'm still in top 30 for now, I dont have much else to push with
>>577764195yep, that is fair, after that my concern is having a good variety(because the stats and type of my oshi will surely change) but depending on how they handle it, on a full pity one might get lucky enough to gather a decent amount of other 5*
Fell down to 21st on IRyS, no top 20 sadly
>>577762417did you send your fedback?
Do the people that like Ollie here not actually watch her or what
Sexo Towapi
>>577765551There are quite a few members that I like mostly because of their designs and snippets of personality from clips.
>>577765551I watch her sometimes, she's a really nice girl even if somewhat foulmouthed
>>577739857LLSIFThe og
The date has changed.
what did she mean by this
>>577767051
>its another 1 guy pokajans at the start and then 5 more times in a row episodebogus
>pokajan daily
>>577762441Ayame has the most NIPPON BANZAI design so the jokes write themselves.
So I finally finished the story and missions (where possible), what's the daily grind basically? Do the holomem quests, do the daily quest, and just use up your boosts and try to A/S-rank songs you haven't yet?
gonna try to get mogogo top 100 next week
This looks worthy
>>577768257Yes but S rank. Aiming for A rank is pointless, you should just wait on grinding those out until you can consistently S rank
I should work on the other members too
>kicked out of the top 10 at the last minute
>>577768575How good is the Holodori.best optimizer? I only have pic related for S ranks so I'm kinda coping atm
Finally got this chat.>>577768703If you input your data properly it will essentially build a team out of the units you own and also optimize your holoboards around that team. I've found pretty good results with it. You can also change other settings to find out who to add or how a max level team might work.
>my final 2 character unlocks tomorrow are Ina and KanadeSo do those invitation letters become junk after this? They keep giving out more as daily gifts at the mountain too
>>577767820>Biboo getting 2-shotted.mp4
>>577768971you can sell letters at nepolabo for like 5k hologold but when you invite everyone, gen1 gives out similar stuff to advent gifts i think
>>577768697I warned you dawg. Still sucks though.>>577768971You can sell them to the shop for 5k hologold or something but some people apparently leave some members around to farm them for when future members drop if they're needed.
>>577768971When everyone's unlocked you get juice instead
>>577769162Even if I played tried my scores were already high RNG, still this is the closest I've got, maybe next week
Whoever did the official charting in this game seems better at charting Hard difficulty than Expert
Are you a resolutionlet?Cover doesn't want you to know this but if you launch the game via gamescope you can get SSAA and get rid of the ugly staircases.
>Pokajan daily quest>Play a normal game by accident instead of the quest>Win>Do the actual quest>WinYeah I call myself a Pokajan pro
If I have to hear Nerissa's casino announcement once more time I will freak
What the hell
>>577770645Hiya darlings!
They should throw a Coco chibi that has a 0.001% chance of appearing on hokage mountain into a stealth patch
>>577770774
>>577765551I can excuse her being a public degenerate with little to no filter because she's just that sweet of a girl.
>>577770645DINGDONGDINGDONG
So Ollie is the best in this batch (but it's Ollie)And Ayame despite being super sexy and cute is almost unusable?Great
>>577771661>almost unusableNot that bad but relative to the other 11 summer units yea it's unfortunate
>>577771661First off Ollie is sexy fuck you but on the plus side regarding Ayame her original 5* is already really damn good so at least anybody who pulls for swimsuit will get a cute outfit!
>>577771826
>>577771661>almost unusableMore or less. You can't use her outfit skill efficiently yet but you can use her as a member of your team just fine I think
Feels good being able to snipe top 10 Ollie right before reset
>>577771661If you don't like everyone in hololive you should just not post.
>>577772869It's impossible to like everyone given that's well over 60 different personalities and characters with their own traits and tastes and actions.Yes, I don't like Ollie.
>>577772958But it is possible for you to not post about how you don't like someone.
>>577773139It's not like the post was exclusively about Ollie, it was also about Ayame, so calm your tits.
>>577773012sexy little onahole
>>577773205You didn't need to say that you don't like Ollie, who is objectively super likeable.
>>577772869Why on earth would this be a rule any sensible thread uses? Imagine going into a mons thread>if you don't like every Pokemon you should just not postYou'd get laughed out the door from every side
>>577773205nta but its more about the unnecessary backhand you threw in. you can dislike any member but when throwing it into a supposedly objective post you shouldnt be surprised at a little pushback.
>>577773512Who cares, if someone else posts "I got another 5* but ugh it was [holo]" I'm just not gonna reply cause I don't care. Do you understand what site you're on?
Why did they hide the 120fps toggle in 3 submenus?
>>577773659clearly multiple people care since they're giving you shit for it. by your same logic you can easily leave out your dislike since it doesnt matter? but then how else would people know you dislike a member? you just HAVE to let others know after all. chump.
>>577773390>objectivelyi dont think you know what that means
>>577773842filter (You) specifically
>>577773920Yeah some people who sound like they're straight from Discord and have no business being here.
if someone saying something bad about your favourite holomem makes you upset, you should probably go to twitter or reddit
>>577773842probably because the games poorly optimized so the only place that could run at 120 is the rhythm game.
my best team according to optimizer includes a girl who has a voiceline I can't stand with IRyS. so I simply choose not to play herif I post my cards and someone looks at my options and says "(She) is better than half of your current team" the only honest answer I can give is that I simply don't like her. I love my oshi, and I'm lucky most of the girls I like are usable with her. that's who is on my team and what matters most to me
>heh dont go to 4chan if you dont want EPIC insults about the things you like. reddit and discord are down the hall while us cool kids say nigger and faggot and stuff hehtell me how i know you're underage
>>577774397Sure. Using your oshi and girls you like a lot > using an optimal team of holos you don't care for Most people might agree
>>577774397>my best team according to optimizer includes a girl who has a voiceline I can't stand with IRyS. so I simply choose not to play herthis is based
Just had three pokajan games in a row where it's just one retard drawing 90% of the pokajans
>song sounds like it's about to end>actually no, continues>ok, now it's ending, I can let off>no sike, second fake endwhat the hell
>>577768587>>577772841whores!
>>577774397I had to take out Kronii because her lines were so out of character and she kept making me laugh.
>>577774795I swipe the board until it stops registering. Then I'm sure it's over.
>>577774397You can just turn off the skill voicelines in live settings..
>>577774890she has a cute dynamic with IRyS in their base and 5* outfits>>577775110not an expert but I think that goes against the Geneva Convention
If IRyS isn't meta then why do so many people use her? My best team has her too.
>>577773139Ollie is absolute shit and should graduate.
>>577775350
>>577775350maybe holodori.best's creator has an irys bias and everyones just copy pasting straight from there without checking if irys actually benefits them more than another member
>>577775350I don't think people really know what's meta or not. I tried a supposedly super optimized team and it got consistently way worse scoring than the homecooked bullshit I've been using
>>577775541this would be a great & devious way to push your oshi
>>577775350Pretty sure you can use any 5* without issues so long as you can activate their outfit skill if they're Leader. IRyS buffs Promise members so she can only buff 3 people in general but 2 in practice though her special skill is pretty good I think.The thing about HoloBest though is that if your info is accurate it will pretty much never throw in another potential unit that's below a certain threshold so if IRyS is level 70 in a field of level 50s she will always be on your team.
Did they really record unique lines for every holo x holo interaction you could come acrossAnd if yes does this mean if they bring out say 5 new girls sometime soon all the other girls have to get back to the studio to record lines for interactions with them
>>577775681Yes, and that's why we wont get justice before the 1st holodori anniv
>>577775681yes it's peak soul and we're very lucky
>>577775681Yes, from what I've seen it's mostly 2 lines per holo unless there's a specific interaction between costumes involved.
>>577775805What happens if one girl leaves before another new girl joinsThe old girl will still be playable and have voice lines for all the other holos but not the new oneThat'll be strange huh
>>577775940Some of them have very generic lines that aren't even really related to the other so it might just come down to that. Or they may just say their own costume line again.
>>577776242those members are the ones that have beef with each other
>>577768587Hello Need Tomboy>>577772841Hello Toasty
>>577775538the true sex symbol of EN
>>577776918Hello!
>>577777001Wait this is AIslop I gotta delete this shit.
>>577773621this meme died after ina crushed ayame's pussy in japan
>>577776972Do you truly believe that?
>>577777732>itshouldhavebeenme.jpg
>>577777991kek based, matsuri really is like those girls standing around okubo park...
Baeby rat
>Pokajan dailyI haven't dipped my toes in this yet and I aint a jong player either.What's the tactic to staying alive? Not asking to win, just how to avoid being 4th for the most part
>>577779164Watch what people discard, use that to figure out what they might want, don't discard those things.
>>577779164If someone just discarded something and didn't get Pokajan'd, it's probably safe to dump itHold on to bonus cardsPray to God no one gets Pokajan 3+ times in a row or that you're not the poor bastard who gets nailed with a mono color gen
>>577775681You can listen to them all on the holomems profile. There's one each way so there's one for say irys talking to bae as the leader and a different one for bae talking to irys as leader
>>577779272>>577779540Guess I was on the right track already then, just felt a bit off since I had games where everyone would be dumping one gen the entire time only for me to then get pokajan'd in the face with a same colour three pair
>>577779965Just because a few members of a gen are safe doesn't mean all of them are.Sometimes you do just get fucked though.
>>577779164>get an early lead ASAP, Pokajan as soon as you see the prompt>always see what the opponents drop, if they don't get Pokajan'd, the card is relatively safe to drop>if you get two of the same color, don't be afraid of holding to them for a bit to see if you get the third one of the same color>you can click and hold on each card to see how many have been played, this also helps to confirm if you can still wait for a set of the same colorPersonally, I always drop IDs as soon as I can because people love to hoard them since their gens are smaller, so it's less likely that they will drop them because they're hoping for easy Pokajan, and building a 5 member gen can be beneficial in the long term if you see the opponents dropping the cards. If you somehow manage a 5 member gen of the same color, you pretty much instantly win the game.
>>577779540>mono color genInstant alt+f4
>Pokajan daily questWatch me win and then lose the next 4 in a row.
>pokajan>pokajan>pokajan>delay....>pokajan>discards a card nobody pokajans oni hate when this happens man
>spend hours farming FCs on easy for moar crystals>start whiffing notes on long, boring songsShould I use my auto tickets?
>>577783216Oh wait I'm retarded these don't count
>>577783436you farm a very small amount when doing auto while getting S ranks and on expert ive found
>>577783216Is your unit score S rank? Are you okay with the chance of lowrolling skills? If yes to both than you should.>>577783436They aren't treated as proper clears but you're still granted the gems for hitting letter ranks on them.
>>577783563>Is your unit score S rank?No I started playing very recently>They aren't treated as proper clears but you're still granted the gems for hitting letter ranks on them.Oh good to know, so I should aim to have a much better unit score and then spam auto for easy gems?
>>577737701>>577751610They need to make up for HoloEarth somehow.
>>577779164Pray nobody assembles the 5 pieces of Exodia right out the gate.
Why is this general way less active during NA prime time?
>>577785308that's in 4 hours
>>577785340For me its right now.
MORI CALLIOPE?!
>>577780339>If you somehow manage a 5 member gen of the same color, you pretty much instantly win the gamethey really should balance this a bit, it feels unfair, happened a few times that a dude had luck and started with 4 cards of the same 5-cards gen, and then as soon as he got his first turn, he got the other one, and he ended with 1840 cards, only having to play it safe to win.
>>577739857I still play PJSK. I tried Bandori but I didn't really like some of the differences in the rhythm game and the songs were just OK, did really like Fire Bird though.
I can't tell the difference between Biboo and Mococo when they sing Rebellion
>>577786282If you hear a baby voice with a slight lisp then it's Mococo and if you hear a baby trying to sing deeper then it's Biboo.
>>577786010
>>577739857I play Project Sekai
>The ocean is big>Polka is small.>But that doesn't mean Polka's worries are insignificant!thanks for the wisdom, poruka
Would anybody join a Pokajan lobby if I made one?
I wasted 12.5k gems on micomet banner and I don’t have anymore first clear red diamonds for gachaDo I reroll?
I'm feeling sleepy, How long till banner drops?t. Euro
>>5777898792h
>>577789719I'm just 1 guy but I would
Feels a little bad that you can pull up to any random ID song as leader and end up on at least 500 or below on rank with a half decent high level team
>>577790054Damn, that's the worst time possible. A little long, but not too long.
>>577789782If you have all the memories so far, no.
Mori please stop proccing your skill right after Ina does. It keeps running out at the exact same time.>>577789719I'd join but for the scientific purpose of seeing if getting the Holomem achievements in one is valid.
>>577791948She's getting back at you for calling Deadbeats cringe
>>577791948If your skills are overlapping, you might need to tune your skill frequency nodes
>>577737626one of these could have been gura or ame...
>>577792482Ame maybe. Gura, I don't know how to tell you this...
>>577786279
>>577786662every drawing of this brat needs to be paired with a correction piece
42205744Hosting a Pokajan lobby and will wait 10 minutes or so. If people join I'll start after 10 and if nobody joins I'll just close it.
What rank do your members need to be if you want to buy every blue node? 20? I’m thinking of raising the rank of every 5* I have.
>mega circuit>faster>more lenient, you can make a profit as long as you get to the 2nd round>placing top 5 consistently already nets you tons of coins>pokajan>long ass delay>need to get 1st or 2nd to make a profit>high chance to lose your coins>basically gamblingWhy would anyone play pokajan again?
>>5777942262/4
>>577794595You don't want to buy every blue node, you'll want to skip some of the big skill activating timing ones on certain members to make sure the minor skills don't overlap during songs and hurt your score. It's not much, I think. Have a few under rank 20 and I think I've mostly maxed out their blue before moving to green or yellow.
>>57779459521
>>577794975>Why would anyone play pokajan again?>basically gamblingyou answered your own question
>>577794975mega circuit is sweaty and shit on mobilepokajan is a fun time killer that can also get you good money if you care
>>5777942263/4 Gonna wait a few more minutes
>>577794975There is not really a situation where you lose more than you win in pokajan, plus it doesn't require you to focus so you can play it in the background while enjoying something else. At worst, you hit a losing streak that pisses you off and makes you want to destroy things but one win gets all your coins back plus some.
>>577794975>basically gamblingYes
>>577794975I don't like Fall Guys as much as I like card games.
Feel free to let me know if you wanna try for a Pokajan achievement for testing.
botan has so many good emotes...
>>577795724I'll join to test it out. I still don't know how to play though.
>>577796026We're full at the moment.
>>577795221PSA: You can plug a controller into your phone via USB-C to play Mega Cicuit. Been using my DS5 and it works natively without any additonal software. Can probably use bluetooth too if you set it up
>Tied for 2ndLel, the 3rd Blue Shuba never came>MythMy time has come
I'm fishing for the 3 mem same color achievement myself.
Why aren't the Hologra episodes subbed?
>>577797030Have you tried turning on closed captioning?
Can't get my mono color Ina but I sure can land back to back gen Pokajans
>>577797012oh yeah did it work for the fella that got 3x moris?
>>577797492I can't recall if I already had Towa but I didn't get the achievement.
>Suisei can pass Expert Po, Dead Ma'am's Chest (took a few tries), and GhostShe's pretty hard on herself about her skill level but that's respectable
>>577798109I WILL get the big hat, even if I have to swipe for it
8403 77853/4 pokajanStill have no clue if achievements work.
>The Triple Mori didn't countMan. GGs fellas, Pokajan is a lot more fun when you aren't faced with the possibility of losing 1k coins and everyone's shooting emotes at each other.
>>577798287ah that's unfortunate, would have been a nice incentive to get lobbies going
>>577798287GGs. It makes sense that we can't get them but that's still a bummer considering how random they are to get.
>>577798287RIP
I reckon we can play 1 more and then call it since I think the banner is releasing soon.
I'll pull Ayame in a single tenner and go to sleep happy
>>577798928this but me and Mori
do you guys buy all/most of the weekly items from the nepolabo shop
Good games lads. Shame about the no achievements thing but at least now we know.
>>577799101Thanks for the games fellas
>>577798928Riona please. Please.
>>577799092I buy the blue and green cubes and sometimes the discounted stuff but otherwise no. I don't think they're worth the price at all.
>>577799101thanks for the room
>>577799092Just the green cubes. They're the only thing that's immediately needed.
>>577739857>SIF>Im@s CG>Bandori>Im@s SS>D4DJThey kept me occupied in transit as a student.15 fucking years of being a thumbie and all I can do are full combos.
Good luck on your pulls!
EZ
place your bets
>>577800014luna
wrong Mori... hi Luna
How long until Flare posts a 5 bloom ina on twitter?
>>577800118i wish. i picked her for the rate up
>>577798109I will cum inside the zombie
Got the Ollie I wanted and even a bonus Luna!>>577800282Good luck bro, sorry I stole your Luna. I had Ollie as my rate up.
>>577799941Do I use my last 5000 gems or hodl
So OIlie and Mori huh.
>>577798928You know what, I think I'll live and go to sleep happy. Lofi fits right into my current team, it's genuiely perfect and who doesn't love Korone
Here are base Ollie's skills btw
>don't even play everyday>do 1 10 pull>get the one I wantpowerful
Does High and Low get affected by the monthly pass?
Kinda tempted to roll for Luna since she pairs with release Watame perfectly, but I don't think I can really fit her onto my team sadly....
I hate how low res they are in game.>>577800603It's like the only game that doesn't I think.
I got nothing but 4 star mococo...At least I like mococo so it's not all that bad
is there no event?
>>577800932It's a different event that's happening later than usual.
>>577800924>At least I like mococo so it's not all that badthat's what I'm saying as a hololive fan this game's gacha is too dangerous because there's no negative to rolling....
On top of getting my Oshi with a Bloom level, I got>Summer Ollie>Normal Suisei>Fuwawa>Reine up to Bloom 2 and Polka up to Bloom 1A good haul if I do say so myself
>>577800561She's pretty good. High probability is very welcome.
>have 60 pulls in me>want to wait for my oshiNobody knows my suffering.
I need to FUCK chibis bros
>been saving all my gems>finally decide to use them all to pull ina today>130 pulls>a single off-banner 5*Okay well I don't know if I will continue playing this game. I don't expect to get super far f2p but man if I cant pull a single character after saving my gems from the start of the game until the fourth banner then I don't see the point.
>>577801569You should save up toward the 50k needed to guarantee your oshi pull in the future. If by some miracle they have mercy and fix the red gem/pity system, you can use any overage toward other banners that interest you. Alternatively, you can fork over hundreds of dollars. Your choice.
fuck my life
The luna summer art is doing things to me
>>577802059that seems way too unlucky anon there's no way
zombie anal
>>577802208Biboo had a similar experience during the previous banner trying to get Suisei on stream as evidence, so not as unlikely as it seems. But still pretty unlikely if this one has the option to choose one with higher rates.
>>577802059This is why you don't pull below 200
>>577802039I wanna plap this zombie in her fartbox BAD
>>577802059They really should set the pity at 100 for the first time you use it in each banner. 200 is just fucking brutal even if you end up paying for gems.
I think im retardedhow do I change the leader's outfit?
>do single pull on event banner>get Risu 5-star dupeShouldn't complain but wish it were a new 5-star at least
>>577802639nevermind im a genius
What’s great about Ollie?
>>577803161sexo design
>>577803161hornylikes to share her porn with youflat
Three 10 rolls and I got her, and I got a 5* OG Calli and Iofi in the first two rolls. Pretty lucky for me and I'm still over 10k gems.
>>577803161nothing.
I tried
>>577803161Fat gooner irl so she just like me frfr
I NEED to bully ollie while she wears her revealing swimsuit
>>577803161She has a pretty good skillset even with no bloom. If you meant her as a person I just find her body type very sexy. She's a likeable girl too though a bit too much on the Roshi scale of thirsty.
>>577803624imagine the smell
>>577802059>Only a 99.79% chance to pull 1 or more in 120 pulls.
I have never wanted to fuck Ollie, a chibi, or chibi Ollie this hard in my life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y16oXs-25BA
the japs keep picking RIP because of marine's 3d live. they dont know its shit
Will there ever be another rate up for the regular gacha? Trying to full bloom my oshi with Holodori gacha rolls is brutal
>>577803804Cute Su
>>577802039>>577802558like rotten eggs
If the pity didn't have the audacity to turn into worthless holosticker after the event ends, I'd be ok with the red gem economy in this game. It's the only thing that really bugs me.
>>577803731If there genuinely is a .21% chance of me getting this unlucky then I'm going to go fucking gambling tomorrow or something
>>577803875
>No announcement for hitting #1 in the app storeOwari da…
>2 off banners>1 is the standard version of an event holomemYep I'm sorry Calli I'm fucking done.
>>577804173And it's not even the good holostickers that work toward a bloom stone or 5* ticket, either. At best you get a meager amount of coins or auto tickets from your wasted gems. Actually an insult given some people spend real money on this.
>>577804459imagine whaling for a dead game
>Ollie goodNice propaganda Hololive interns.
>>577798109why does yammers have such thick legs
>>577804738I wish they paid me to shill this slut who's only built for cock
Why do I keep getting friend requests from random people...
>>577804904we need the ripped models so we can really compare
wish I could use these fuckass auto tickets for the cooking and jumping mini games. at the very least i should be able to max boost them.
>nothing
>>577804639but anon, they MUST be whaling to compete against LESSER WHALES
>>577804963cuz ur kewl!
My luck has carried me through.Now hopefully they give me a break for a while.
>>577804738nice skin color nguyen
imagine the naizuri
How come PC version's restricted in some ways unlike mobile?
You think they'll ever add alter egos like Kurokami or Olivia?>>577805783Probably because they think it'd be too easy to cheat in some fashion the Japanese don't comprehend.
>holodori.best is offline right as I was messing with team compositionsGoddammit.
>>577805746I WANNA FUCK OLLIE.
I refuse to believe there are this many Ollie fans
>>577805783and about payment, it's probably because steam doesn't do recurring billing.
>>577805949yeah im not falling for this propaganda
>>577805949Oh look at me I'm anon I hate stinky rotten pussy
Someone explain to me how Summer Ollie is good, I got her and I see she synergizes nicely with my summer Ina>>577803161Seconding >>577803624 here, she's a total unashamed horndog but she's also a total sweetheart.
>>577805949They definitely are not watching her streams
Imagine unironically liking Holostars' cock sleeve
yo big shoutout to da doog da lion an da peng
>120 pulls just for a single event unitThis outcome was actually depressing. I'll just probably wait for Justice or something since I'll probably burn out if I have to do this every month.
>>577803778I feel you...
>>577805949I was an ollie anti for a while before I started hearing how she moan'd and decided my dick should dictate what I like and my god she is a horny little slut I will be playing as summer ollie for the rest of the game
>>577805949She has the sexiest outfit so naturally anons talk about her more. I'd be shocked if anyone here payed for her membership
>>577806147flayon?
I want to sex the zombie that's all. It's not that complicated.
I just busted a fat nut to Ollie's chibi... post nut clarity hit, and it wants me to bust ANOTHER nut but to her Live2D instead
My Ollie looks kinda different...
I've just unlocked the Fortune Network and it feels like I've done less rhythm gaming than exploring the island.
>>577806572Yeah it looks better
>new ranking every couple of days>new memory every couple of daysThis is gonna be nerve wracking.
When are the bois getting put in holodori? It's what Ollie would've wanted
>>577806572Is her TALALA in the game?
>>577806290Is this your first time saving in a gacha? You have to accept that no matter how much you save you can still get unlucky
>>577794975if you're a mahjong chad then pokajan is a fun side thing you can do while you're watching streams or shitposting here
>>577806742After the China branch.
>>577806290I came to the thread lamenting about whether I should do a 10 pull for mori, this had really answered my question (no)
>took like 150 pulls to reach Mori but I got Ollie and Mococo along the way (plus some others)Fuck, I might as well hit pity to get Ina and build up most of a sense team
>>577804738/#/bro, we're not on /vt/ anymore.
can't believe i share a general with sick fucks that would fuck a corpse.
>>577806798no. but in all seriousness I'm looking forward to the eventual Gundam songs and skins.
>>577806667take your time, you'll eventually miss exploring the island when all you are doing is pokajan and lives
>>577807271
Redid my team but I need 900k hologold now to get everyone to 70 fug
>>577807028I pulled for my dick and got sucked dry. As a unit, she doesn't even seem that special.
>>577807271i mean, who doesn't?
>>577807492>ci
>do some tests to optimize my teams with the new 5* I got>only change is Summer Watame being replaced by Summer OllieDamn, the Gen 0 green node boost is too strong.
Left was a fakeoutPray for me Anons
>finally ran out of gems>didn't get what I wantThat's a reroll
It's so obvious that the devs are botting the events
They really should make pity points its own separate thing that can be accumulated and used on any (non-gacha ticket) banner.
>>577807890Cute anyers Still now swiping
>he pulled for the wrong Pink Woman
>>577808038Yeah but unfortunately this gacha is stingy as hell about nearly everything. Imagine the bottleneck newer players will have months from now. >no gifts from milestones>literally no way to buy enough mats to catch up>missed out on memories>etcOn the plus side the main game doesn't really need that kind of min maxing but still it's wild.
only botan left and I have nepolabo
>>577808238that one isnt even in the game
>>577808238There is no Justice in this world.
Why would the talents promote a game designed to milk their most retarded paypiggy fans? They want that money, not cover
Is it true that ollie got fingerbanged on stream? Where can I find a clip of this?
>>577808281It's weird because after you make a team that can hit 1 mil consistently, there's really no need to roll or spend money unless you want to try and leaderboard. Even then, you can't because you'll be completing with full bloom teams. And yet I want to roll anyway. How bizzare.
add tight rope walking to fall guys
>>577808507previous event had a 1.5mil score mission, that might increase in the future.
>>577808430yeah it was me austin
>>577808430She was just masturbating it was here https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLk4N6AFvLWe3ZzdatOmVLrLCZjf7HsKsL
>>577808415It's in ze contract
whew... thank goodness I'm still safe until bibbers
>>577807278depends. I know there's some megaman collab that's suppose to happen and Korone did sing can't beat airman
>>577808507I think part of it is just release window excitement. Logically like you said once you have a solid team there's no real reason to change except for your favorites or for sexo. I think this will be the last banner I pull on for a while unless Botan, or maybe any NePoLaBo member, is on the banner. I can't keep trying to level up new units with the pitiful resources we get and I don't see how they could expect us to realistically do that either.
>>577808507Literally me, frfr
>>577802059>I scrounged up 5 more rolls>got another 5* at the very last one>its Mori>oh well at least I got someone on bann->it was standard moriYeah this is god telling me to not play this game goodbye everyone
>>577807769>try switching my leader from Korone to Ollie to compare scores>Korone is still better by almost 300k points on averageHuh, Korone's singular Sense boost is better than Ollie's Sense and Support boosts.
i might not get Ollie, but i somehow got an equally similar OP card.the powercreep is real. Ollie's special is 25% better than Reine's
>>577805949>I refuse to believe there are this many Ollie fansshe's got almost 2x the channel subs as her genmates anon she's p popular
>>577808947And thus the honeymoon ended and anon filed for divorce
>>577808396>Lunai'm fine with it.
>>577808415It's worse for cover since the game might cause hololive burn out
>>577808507I severely underestimated the gacha and now I ran out of red gems and achievements. I might just reroll and save for a holomem I actually like but I also don't want to lose my Summer Noel + Standard Flare which is carrying my team.
>>577809003It seems like outfit support boosts just really suck. I heard some member's 5* support outfits are worse than their 4* stat ones, but if half and half outfits like Ollie's don't beat a singular stat boost one, then shit needs to be rebalanced
My boat goes unbinted...
I'd swipe if the diamond packages weren't so terrible
>>577809003Does your Ollie even have a board or any Leader nodes yet? I feel like throwing in an entirely unbuilt unit(aside from lvl 80 there) will of course look way worse.
>>577803804kingdom hearts shoes
saving my gems until the VSPO collab banner
fubukingdom
Sure wish we could convert more stuff>cute beads into happy beads>any beads into any crystals>fuckass yellow cubes into any actual useful cubes(yes i know the holowork ones are useful but not worth on main team)>any cubes into any hexas>etc
>want to play but also want to build up live boosts for the event Guess I'll just play Pokajan..
>>577809606I assume because, on paper, the "Grants Score Support Effect of 25% to all" is supposed to give you a big score boost during lives, but the raw Sense 130% boost from Korone is even stronger than Ollie's combined outfit effects if your whole team is high on Sense.>>577809830Yes, I'm comparing both leader Korone and Ollie with both of their red and blue boards full and Korone was still scoring around 300k more than Ollie. Granted, Ollie at least is good in the team because of her Happy boost, even slightly better than Watame. Pic related is with Ollie as a leader, exact same holoboard distributions in everyone. Now compare it to Korone's >>577807769 and it's like night and day.
>>577810021Having a mono type team feels like brick
gdi I needed a good Technique main stat card for my Fuwawa team, why did Ayame have to have the racist 2nd gen only passive
>>577809825They should remove the red gems from the premium pass and make as a separate monthly.>b-but that's another subscription!I don't need materials for units I won't use. I don't need FOMO cosmetics. I don't need stickers. I don't need points and coins boosters. I just want to join my oshi's membership and having a monthly passive gem stock while playing the rhythm game.
>>577809606>I heard some member's 5* support outfits are worse than their 4* stat onesyea Kronii is an example>5* - 60% score support>4* - 40% all stat with 2+ Promiseif you have IRyS use Kronii's 4* for the stat boost
>>577810206>why did Ayame have to have the racist 2nd gen only passiveOn brand, I guess.
>>577786282>hello brand new worldbiboo >mococofuwamoco have a slight nasal quality to their voice due to sadly, being canadian raspier of the two = mococo
>>577807941the event hasn't even started
>>577810307
>>577809606stick with the leaders that grants boost on raw stats. i get lower scores from Score Support centers from my experience because their use is very situational.
>>577810153Interesting, I wonder if the optimized boards make that much of a difference using gen boosts? Ollie only has 2 members to get boosts from and Gamers has 4. Korone is boosting 50% more sense than Ollie and Ollie's other contribution is the score support effect which in theory could save on blue cubes/hexas I imagine.>>577810172Yeah I think so too. It's probably best to have 2 of 2 types that boost the entire team and then whatever else as the 5th.>2 happy units = 30% stat boost to all>2 pure units = 30% stat boost to all>5th thing that benefits from all stat boostsThis would surely beat out a full happy team with their boosts since I imagine it doesn't stack in a unique way.
The new Ayame isn't that good is she
>>57781024140% all is good if your stats are balanced, but focused stat centers give a much better boost at the cost of a more limited unit selection.
>>577808720some explicitly said they werent streaming it because they knew there was gonna be a huge deluge of holodori streams and they understand the value of counterprogramming
>>577809860They have songs?
>>577810849I wish my oshi streamed at all...
>>577810742why is every original chammers song in holodori fucking sad bro
>>577810662>2 of 2 types that boost the entire teamwhat
>>577810663She's too focused on Gen 2 units of which there are only 3, including herself. 120% score support is pretty decent but her active skill is on a 27s CD with MEDIUM probability which is pretty bad and thats at 5 bloom. Her passive skill is just more score support but for Gen 2 only and her outfit skill is even MORE score support for Gen 2. In theory you might could build a team with her, Shuba and Choco and then have another buffer duo and make it work but regular 5* Ayame is already really good.
>>577810662>and Ollie's other contribution is the score support effect which in theory could save on blue cubes/hexas I imagineIn theory, but the Score Support boosts are simply not as good as they appear to be, and it seems that boosting raw stats is the real meta when it comes to achieving higher scores. Be aware that holodori.best also calculates best possible scores if all skills were to activate, and even in the most ideal scenarios, Korone's raw Sense boost is literally hundreds of thousands of points better than Ollie's dual skills.>>577810172If there's something I noticed in my team is that based on the order I add the members to the team, some units won't get certain boosts. For example, AZKi has the "Grants Sense UP 32% to 2 Gen 0 members", but this also includes herself, so my score can actually go slightly down depending on whose Gen 0 in pic related I add last to the team. I'm talking about a minuscule 500 points of difference, but a difference nonetheless. So yes, it's better to keep your team with a mix of two of Happy/Cute/Pure and a mix or a couple of Gens. Granted, the 5 member Gens like Gen 0, X or Advent to mention some will always score slightly better because they take advantage of the green nodes from the members not in the team.
>>577811123My mistake, I was thinking of outfit skills when they're Leader since some of those are blanket stat boosts.
>>577811046wait for Who2 and Buta
Am I screwing myself over by being a thumber? I've been working up the difficulties and can All Perfect most normals without too much issue now but die super early when trying level 25s. Should I start my training arc over with fingers?
>>577811242Your sui has a 135% boost why aren't you using her as a leader?
meh fuck this. I'm switching to Marine leader because I have swimsuit Noel and just the two of them would make a good baseline for whatever other members I put in the team.
>>577810241If you have irys, use irys for the 50% stat boost?
>>577782280I FUCKING KNEW IT
The only meta that matters is your oshi
>>577810742>>577811726to leaderboard for a girl you have to use her leader, but you can pick the outfit in question. my point is that for someone who wants to use Kronii, her 4* is better than her 5*that's what the anon I replied to is referring to comparing 4* vs 5*
>use up all my rolls>don't get any swimsuits but get blooms for my full teamI don't know if this is lucky or unlucky...
>>577808726
>>577811701Because Mr. Koro is my oshi and it's a huge pain in the ass to rank up several holomems at the same time
>>577811686one of the god gaming girls is a thumber, but I don't remember which
>>577811886>yellow koroneskikino
>>577811886idgaf about megaman but i WILL roll on this banner
I would like a high roller update that let's me bet 10k coins on pokajan, please and thank you.
>>577811886If they did a one-time-only banner I'd have to swipe. And I already know I'd regret it.
>>577811686I'm a thumber myself and I can do songs up to 27. It's possible anon, someone completed a 30 song with 2 spoons. And also, I think fingers is only worth if you're playing on a big tablet.
I'm a slut with two oshis, both of them have already gotten a second 5*, and I was lucky enough to get both.How stupid of an idea is it to piss away the rest of my gems on the common banner to hit 200 and get someone to round out my unit?
I don't think I could use all these if I tried
>>577810512You think Ayame has ever come across this meme and felt bad about it?
>>57781168637 year old thumb player here, I'm currently working on beating Lv28 songs and I have already cleared Carbonated Love and Po, to mention some. I have also played a couple of Lv28 songs with index fingers, but it feels a bit awkward on phone since it then tends to slide to the sides during swipe or hold notes. It's all just a matter of practice, and I've been actually considering getting some thumb gloves, which I guess I can just get some cheap cotton gloves and just cut the thumbs.
>>577812484>>577812161You're APing that high? Or just a clear?
>>577811886>koroneskimy sides
>>577812220pretty annoying that they dont have a function that just lets you replay on auto without your input. id gladly spend all 900 or whatever of my tickets to farm expert songs for beads and whatever. i guess i could set up an auto clicker or something on pc but thats a hassle
>>577812593Nah, just clears, but I have already AP'd a couple of Lv26s, so I'm getting there. Swipe notes are still a pain in the ass to deal with in higher difficulties.
>>577811886>>577812014>>577812037>>577812087
>>577812778
>>577812726I think I'd be happy APing up to 25 so I'll keep at it. Thanks.
I can't get a comfortable grip with thumbs plus wired headphones
>>577811686You can clear every song with just your thumbsProof: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E95J2WZs5fI
>>577812883it's where they'll have the stands but the important part is the designs
Night Breakhttps://x.com/hololive_dreams/status/2089192998445916476
>>577813552My racial passive is strength, not dexterity. And it's too late to reroll as an asian.
>>577812220>1.9Mare all these from Pokajan?
I just nutted for the THIRD time to summer Ollie's chibi today...
>>577814109kimoi
>>577813552>1:43
>>577808038not really, saving should be rewarded, spending like a spazz on every banner should be punished
>>577812243I don't think people in Japan hurl pitchforks at people being racist like the west do, so no
>>577814013Yep
I shant pull on this banner.
>>577814139*sighs* *unzips dicks* alright here we go again...
stop being greedy
>>577814431he's speaking FACTS
>>577814431Fubuki whales harder than half of Japan put together and still says the income is trash
>>577814356I don't have enough crystals to pull because this game is so jewish
>>577814431fubuki already made a tweet asking for more generous holodori bro, you lost
>>577814109real
>>577814431
>>577814431There's just not enough value to justify the purchases in game. I'd say the premium pass is worth it but only because the alternative is starving in materials if you want to build up a roster of more than one team.
>>577814431Tribe Nine may have been the most generous of Japanese gachas after they fixed the free income since it was one exact pull everyday. Too bad it still died.
>>577814431this guy never went as far as finishing the main story and clearing most available achievements
>>577814431>just pay $20 for a minroll filthy gaijinWhy do nips love sucking corporate cock so much?
>>577815367corporations are humans too
>>577815302>spooks your rollsI didn't play the game but I'd be mad
>>577815302Looks like a knock off
>>577814431F2p should be given enough gem to be able to spark once every eight banners
>>577815590I liked it...
>>577811242>In theory, but the Score Support boosts are simply not as good as they appear to be, and it seems that boosting raw stats is the real meta when it comes to achieving higher scores.You can do some math to prove this is the case and exactly by how much>TL;DR for the rest of the post60% Score Support is about equal to 30% All Stat and 75% Perf/Tech/Sense80% Tech/Perf/Sense + 25% Score Support is about equal to 48% All Stat in a very optimistic calculation (probably closer to 40-45%That's why 4* outfits that do something like +100% Tech or +40% All Stat are so much better than the 60% Score Support 5* outfits. They give bonuses above that 30% and 75% threshold. However, they would lose to the new hybrid 80%+25% 5* outfits>Boring math stuffAssume you have a base of 100k stats (40/30/30 stat split)A +50% all stat is 50k bonus, a +130% on the 40 stat is 52k bonusThat's why we know 130% is better than 50% all stat, but only if all 5 members focus on that stat. If even 1/5 of the members is not focused on that stat, it's roughly equal.That's the easy partNow in comparison to that, consider how the 60% score support gets used>X% active * (sum(all score support up))We can calculate the exact amount of score support below which +60% is better. The X% active is canceled out because it's applied on both sides>150k * +Y% total score up = 100k * +(Y+60% score up) => Y = 20%.That means if you have more than 20% score support up from anywhere, the 60% Score Support is worse.Completely ignoring Special skill procs, with just my leader's holomem board and connect nodes, I get +50% score support at all times.Using a basic 100% Special skill running about 50% of the map, you can reverse the function>(100k + Z) * 2 = 100k * (2.6) => Z = 30%30% is the equivalent All Stat% to be equal to 60% Score Support. You can repeat this exercise for 80% Tech/Perf/Sense + 25% Score Support but I won't write it all out
>>577815884All I'm understanding from this is that I'm lucky to be an irys main
Set my rate up for Ayame first and ended up getting Ina then Mori before her, then set it to Luna and got Luna shortly after, afterwards thought fuck it and decided to get Ollie. Only wanted Ayame and Luna but alas. I suppose the EN and ID girls can simply be my island eye candy. Also got a few standard SSRs too. Was only 110 pulls too for all of em so I can't really complain when the rates are so generous that I don't end up spending much.
>>577814548>>577814580Gigi also complained about the income today too, the easiest way for them to change things is if the Holomems complain too.
>>577809460They realize it's already over and just want to pump and dump the company. I'm looking forward to picking up my very own miko after she becomes a drug addicted gutter trash whore
>>577816486miko's going to her retirement home
I've done 6 rerolls (30 pulls each) and not a single event unit
reminder that if you pay any amount you've already lost. f2p for life
>>577816406>Super TL;DR5* Bae and 5* IRyS are almost equals4* Kronii is ~10% worse than them5* Kronii is ~10% worse than her own 4*IRyS 2+ Promise requirement still sucks ass but all in all you’re doing just fine
>>577816406you'd be luckier if the promise units had synergy lmao
had only one roll so i tried to get calli but no luck :[
she could buy a whole village for what she spent on diamonds
In JP every time I roll deadbeats, without fail, 1 person leaves, sometimes 2
>>577817375dahlah
>>577817609>leaving because of a songcringe>picking a song then leaving because it wasnt pickedgay
tldr on the good cards from the new banner?
>>577773390>objectivelythis is the person having meltdowns if you even hint that you don't like their brownoid oshi lmao
>holodori best team optimizer>set for any leader>told to use Marine as leader>tried again but setting Korone as the leader this time>higher score compared to MarineOh, this shit is broken. Devs need to fix this shit
anyone back on the reroll grind?it still seems like the red diamond gifts are still being given out.the only setback would be missing out on event titles and event memories
should I use the guaranteed 5* ticket gacha? I know it's not the event banner, but I had this ticket for some time, and I always forget to ask.
>>577818120Ollie is S tier, everyone else is meh
>>577818120Ollie.
What nodes should I be focusing on for max score?
>>577818443Any account created even two weeks ago is already bricked
>>577818647Red for leaderBlue for your teamYellow for a particular song with that singer. Get the .1% bonus on all songs as well.Green for everyone
>>577818808>all songsThat’s only for hololive group songs like SSS and such, not literally all songs
>>577818786naw these giveaways are crazythe only brick is missing out on dream tier for event song tiers
>>577818515I see no reason not to.
>>577818871oh you're right. I just noticed that there's a target option where you can see what's eligible for the skill.
burned through the mats in 5 minutes. Should've been 10M hologold.
>>577818120Ollie top, Calli servicable, everyone else meh
>>577818416something similar happened to me too last week when I tried to max out my scores, weird because it seems okay for everything else
>>577818527>>577818616>>577818998Dang I only got Calli and Ina. At least I like their outfits.
done in seven tries. It wasn't that bad. I only had regular Suisei level 80.
why is ollie metai don't see any skill activation boosts on her skills
Peko skin when?
>>577819701because this pic from their twitter is either fully bloomed or they changed her stats to not make her so op
>>577819895>stats shown are at maximum level and bloom stageyeah... i dunno bossi ain't killing myself over non-skill activation boost skills and running songs nonstop for the perfect run
>>577819831Pekomama when?
I miss Olivia...
>>577819895The Twitter and banner stats are always fully bloomed. Better to check the datamine site
>>577820039>>577820287oh..... i didnt see it, i think people on twitter havent noticed it either, ollie is good if you fully bloom her then
Could be worse I don't like Ollie but oh well
>run optimizer>Ayame fits my team>she completely reorganizes my current team
>>577820698>team completey changes depending on which song I choose
Mooner streaming holodorihttps://www.youtube.com/live/SJ-cEYhJKSs
>>577806381i've listened to a few pirated clips/streams, she reveals a lot and is basically your menhera gfe
>16k red diamonds>want to get InaFuck, that's 60 pulls, maybe 70 if I grind some songs I don't have finished yet. I only have 1% chance to get Ina, so I'm actually unlikely to pull it off...I don't know whether I should try, or hold onto my gems for future events hoping that I manage to gather up more in the meantime.
120 pulls for 1 summer Morigot summer miko dupe, mio dupe and like a handful new 5* and a bunch of new 4*Probably not using her card for my main squad but pulling the card, using 1 training and leveling it up made my Mori rank up 3 times, and now I'm almost fully fitted for good red/blue nodes, so it was pretty worth.
>>577816779I run all 3 promise so I'm pretty happy
>finally 10 chats>enough instant easy achievements for next levelSomething good after pulling nothing
>>577820428try pulling a Rushia complete the HoloDead unit
I have the bad habit of moving my fingers forward when I panic as if to catch the notes coming in which only causes more missesNow I'm surviving the Expert songs I kept dying to just by actively keeping my fingers only on the horizontal bar
>>577803875LOLThey loved that song since day 1
>reroll to get the gacha itch away>roll significant better than my mainfuck... i might just switch
>>577819895UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
>>577824707Blud will be doing this every single new banner
>>577824707>people getting half my 5 star amount in a single pullinsane luck
Is it better to spread blooms around or focus on maxing a single card?
>Do one 10 roll>Lose all gems I got from the last two events and then someI'm a dolphin and this shit is too stingy for me like wtf, the pity point is absurd too
>>577825148rather than luck, it's more like beating the game into submission
>>577803875Is there a reverse of this? A JP song that they hate but EN loves
>>577809137If you're only talking about subs, she has more subscribers than any HoloEN member outside of Myth. Sadly, they're mostly dead subs at this point.
>nepolabo store restocks>here's your 10 color crystals for the weekthanks
Honestly if not for the impressive score requirements on teh current endgame quests I doubt most people would care that much about the poor material incomeBut with the current curve I'm not sure I will be able to finish next island once I max out my current team...
>>577826919It’s definitely not hate, but I feel like haachama’s songs are a lot more popular with western fans
29 AP
>Ina's sex eyes on her new card
>>577828520Damn, impressive
>>577828520>unrated
Pegora ogling the Nino
>Ollie is only a minimal upgrade to my sense teamSafe, no need to roll for gameplay reason. I hope we never see the "hard powercreep + true limited" combo like all gachas do.
>>577830934is this really 5% drop rate? why the fuck do they almost not come out?
>>577830934My eyes don't know where to look: Ina's pretty chibi or Sexo Peko
>>5778321415% for any 5 star, so an average of 1 per 20 pullsbut it's 1% for your chosen holomem on the banner, 0,25% per each of the other 4 banner specific holos, and 3% for all the others in total
>>577832231pekora has been pulling more than 7 times and no SSR has come out yet! it would be funny if the true rates were actually set lower and they got found out.
>>577832320Eh, I've seen people pull 4 SSRs in a single 10 pull, sometimes you just get unlucky.
>Change my board set up to experiment>Lose 15,000 points>Can't remember what the set up was to get back to my best score
>>577832529lol retard.
Appstore ranking status? Are we getting 2500 diamonds?
>>577832529that big usually means frequency nodes making skills overlap for dead space in songs
peko finally got an SSR after 100 pulls dorya
AYAME GET DORYAAA
for event pts is it better to 10 boost or 3 is better here as well and the guide is trying to trick me?
>>577832659is that why skill frequency is a meme?
that's the first time i saw that gacha animation! didnt know there's a higher tier than rainbow.
>>5778331233 boost is most score per boost spent10 boost is the most score you can get in a run for time efficiencyif you are not going for dream tier in asia / japan then you have no need to consider 10 boosts at all
>>577833159depends, you need it on some of your cards, just take it for everyone until it drops your unit score, or if you have it on everyone, drop em until your score stops improving
>>577833159My skill frequencies for this team are 0%, 12%, 4%, 12%, 8%. As a result, I can (theoretically) have 100% skill up time. If you just blindly throw 12% into all of them you'll end up with dead zones where no skill procs are possible, massively reducing your score.
>5 mini grinding events in a row>Mega circuit has the bonus event>potentially easy 3250 gemsHoly shit, it's grinding time for f2p.
>>577833334cheers, I'll stick to 3 then
For event points, it's better to just include all of the bonus members even though they have zero synergy, right?
>>577833561>Mega circuitabsolute cancer, I hate this shitI'll leave that one to the PC players
speaking of score support giving worse unit scores, the default recommendations in game keeps wanting me to switch to swimsuit mori as leader instead despite losing around 40k unit score compared to mori's default 5*Definitely needs some adjustment but gachas rarely buff default systems by itself
What's the longest song in the game? I want to optimize my live boosts usage.
>spend all my 15k gems to get Ina>only get an Iroha dupe and RadenIt's over... I'll miss my oshi...
>>577834370Kanade and Aizu
>>577834370KANADE
>>577834370>>577834603btw, it's not really more efficient to grind on long songs. it's just a compensation so they give the same amount as the shorter ones. you'd wanna grind on short songs like Renai Circulation or Sparks
>Mega Circuit bonustime to git gud I guess...
I'm already in dream guys where are you
>enter auto lobby>select expert>forgot turn auto on>clear mine first ever expert with 600 HP left
>got 3 copies of hime in 70 pulls (thankfully)>keep getting the urge to pull more to complete hergod i hate gacha
>>577835280sink or swim and you swam
>fall guys bonusyeah nah I'm not gonna compete in this grinding event
this Mori song sounds like a mix between buttrock and Evanescence or somethingit's not bad
>>577834834It's the same time efficiency, but it's more efficient for boost expenditure.
cleared out the Mori store, did they say they'll add more or can we just exchange the badges for the normal ones?
>already seeing tryhards in circuit lobbiesguess i'm sitting this one out
>peko sparked Mori after 520 pullsKWAB
oh fugg there was only 9 hours to get the daily gems
>54k in auto lobbyNot bad
>>577835615>Evanescenceexactly what I thought tooexcept I don't say that as a compliment
did they at least patch all the circuit exploits?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foYXAlJiq68Late but come watch neporabo
thank you, Yu Kondo
does expending more live boost for the event actually gain you more points total
>>577837235no, they'll fix those on the 28th>>577837465I asked this: >>577833334
>>577837467more points total in one go? yesbut x3 is the most efficient if you're not limited by time
I'm just waiting for the update that lets you control the width of the play fieldMaybe if it's a bit narrower my thumbs don't have to stretch all the way over to the other side
>>577835615It's her third best rock song under six feet under and cult following for me
>>577835615Best song I've heard from her in the game so far
So what's the gist of the event? I get the usual point grind but am I supposed to go for a high score too? Do I need a Mori leader team?
is this going to be the sweatiest event yet because it only lasts a few days each member or did i read it wrong
Am I safe if I grind 1 million per day? At least Calli will show us how many points to expect for the next 4 ones.
>>577838886It will be for characterfags for those characters. Hard to say for the general public
>>577838886It does indeed say Mori's event ends when Ayame's starts
>>577838769you don't need a Mori leader to rank for high scores
friendly reminder to maximize mori's yellow nodes for this event. likewise the other members for the next ones.
>>577839438Nice nice. What do I get from the high score part though?
i won't be doing anything with mori but thanks
>>577839619a badge :)
How do I get off of the JP server while not being in Japan? I'd start playing but I heard global is more comfy
>>577839747just download the english version of the app
WTFI lost mega circuit to a cheater
>Sweat Circuit is the minigame spotlightYeah I think I'll just try to make a dent in my auto tickets
>>577839884get outskiped nerd
We get character story for fucking Mori but not miComet???
>6:05This must be the longest story segment in the game
>Game designed by gacha dev pros>The whole thing seems like it was designed by someone that never played a gacha game in their life????
>>577841190what the fuck does this even mean?are you just crying about not enough free shit again?
Where does it say that Mega Circuit is the bonus game for this event?
>>577841515
New>>577842021>>577842021>>577842021
>>577837646>Mega Circuit boosted event where the bugs haven't been patched yetAll the sweats are just gonna learn the skips. I don't even know if it's worth it to try
>>577842116this dumb stamp lives in my head rent free
>>577842116I like it so I'll do a few rounds for sure but won't tryhard it, plat seems comfy again
