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World of Warcraft Classic General

Servers discussed:
>Classic ERA
>Classic Hardcore

FAQ:
>Is classic+ happening?
No, datamining revealed that "camelot" is a seasonal retail server with shop mounts, deluxe pre order packages and not worth paying attention to.

>What version should I play?
Classic ERA is permanent vanilla with no resets or seasons, it is the recommended version for most people.

>What about Hardcore?
Hardcore is great, if your character dies there, you can move it to ERA and continue playing there.

>Which Faction should I pick?
Both are great, the population is split around 60/40 in favor of the Alliance.

Tools and resources:
Talent calculator https://classicdb.ch/?talent
look up quests and items: https://www.wowhead.com/classic
weakauras: https://wago.io/
Addon client: https://www.curseforge.com/download/app
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how is blizzcon still a month away wtf
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i guess everyone is posting here >>577680372
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>>577917308
ah it did not show up cause it was "wuwcg" lol, I thought there was no thread
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>>577917689
yea because legit one idiot thought it would be funny to name general "wuw" instead of as per usual, hence why that general has only 250ish posts after 2days ie. dead
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good thread

+

era is thriving
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>>577919913
>era is thriving
Kek, show me the source
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erachads won...
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Erabulls keep winning
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tbc bros pvp gear is heavily discounted for the off-season week
>~4.5k gets you 5 pc + weapons
s1 gear is discounted for honor and bg marks are removed
>~28k honor for s2 off-set armor (belt, boots, wrists, cape)
>~40k honor for s2 jewelry & trinkets (ring, ring 2, neck, trinket 1, trinket 2 [optional])
>~45k honor for s1 5 pc @ weapons
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Do you think Atiesh raven animation will be added in Classic Era? I know it was added in TBC prepatch but it looks amazing and should be added to Classic Era.
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soon
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The PvE virgin
>fights scripted AI bots and uses addons and weakauras to help him lol
>has to farm 30 hours a week or buy gold to afford consumables
>is reliant on a loot council or some RNG roll of SR (if he doesnt get scammed) to get item rewards
>most of his content is once a week, if people dont show up, he cant play the game
>listens to sissy techno euro music to ''le pump''
>probably browses reddoot
The chad casual PvPer
>knows exactly when his next gear piece is coming, doesnt have to suck some dudes balls to get it
>can login at any time and go find players to kill in the world or in bgs
>no long gold grinds, just enough to enchant his gear, doesnt need consumables to fight other players
>listens to sick metal as he pwns noobs
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>>577949221
its even worse when you think about the classes themselves
like imagine playing pve druid where you only press ff and innervate but you STILL have to farm consumables or buy gold
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druid pvp outside of wsg consists of casting only picrel so your team can dogpile that one person
and it's based as FUCK
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is there a tbc thread? no one talks about the best xpac for tbc annie wtf
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>>577964320
dead expac desu
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>>577964756
given how many fucking faggot feral druids i'm fighting off picking terocone that cant be true. of the ~100 plants ive picked over the last 2 days probably half of them had some faggot cat form bird form bear form laser turkey nigga motherfucker fighting me over them
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>>577965092
>laser turkey nigga motherfucker
my sides
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>>577965092
those are all thirdies that are farming gold sell to buy their halal meals and tabbeh coos coos alahu snackbar. they are literally working.
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friendly reminder,

10 vanilla players can destroy 10000 TBC players and 10 million moppies
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>>577983031
do you have footage of this?
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is everybody raiding or what?
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>>577993429
there are 2 more threads for some reason. 1 in vm other one is wuwcg
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So are we coming back for c+ or naw? should i make a guild? anyone still here? *taps glass*
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I just hit 30 on TBC anniversary. Any recommendations on how to make some gold to afford the riding training and mount?
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>>577995795
I'd join but idk if I want to play ally or horde
>ally
>better cities
>better quests
>horde
>better faction identity
>better racials
its tough tho desu pham
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>>577995795
yes
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>>577996642
never going to roll horde ever again, im so fucking tired of playing with retards who never matured past the age of 15, i'd rather play with the alliance boomer dads
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>>577996642
Horde identity died with TBC. It's all faggot elves now
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>>577998149
idk what you're basing this on. in 2006, alliance were LOTR fans, horde were WC3 fans. everything subsequent is too difficult to interpolate. we can just only surmise that ally = pve, horde = pvp
>>577999090
true but we're discussing classic
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I wanna play a night elf in vanilla, what class should I choose?
I've leveled a fury warrior to about 30 and I'm not sure if I like it or not. I'm interested in learning how to play a healer, so I'm considering priest because I like the fantasy of it. Although, I'm told night elf priests are second rate compared to dwarves, which makes me worry I'll be passed up when it comes to dungeons and raiding. I would roll druid, but I think the moonkin form looks stupid, although I'd maybe consider it for DPS.
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>>578000357
you can play hunter. nelf hunter is bis. druid also works, it can heal.

dwarf priests have fear ward. which makes some dungeons/raids trivial.
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>>577999447
Nta but i thought it was common knowledge that horde has many more toxic players compared to ally.
It's probably the pvp-centric nature of their racials that attract the wannabe pvp gods.
Not that surprising considering that the most common race/class combination for horde is undead rogue.
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>>578002193
the question then becomes, do you want the bulk of toxic players on your side, or against you?
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>>578002969
Depends really. I play ally on a pvp server but i don't mind having horde players starting shit in our zones, i enjoy the pvp aspect of the game.
But if you want none of that you can just roll on a pve server
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horde players are angels
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>>578007773
the halo proves it. ignore my racist 1900 cartoon lips
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>>577999090
Imagine being so low IQ you can't envisage what would have happened to alliance in TBC, with Shaman getting bloodlust and being horde-side only.
>then give Paladins heroism
Okay, now you've got class homogenization, which is worse than the classes being faction-agnostic.
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ret paladins run this game
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>>578013354
ruin*
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>>578013354
gonna be straight up with you.
ive been playing shaman for 20 years.
ive never once lost a 1v1 to a ret paladin. NEVER.
i don't even anticipate it ever happening. EVER.
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>>578013354
they do
>>578018156
non paladin andy scared that blizzard is going to buff rets so hard theyre going to destroy his ploosy
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>>577936393
just spent my arena points. now i stunt on kids in pvp and pve
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>>577983031
why does it take 15 more vanilla players to clear a raid than tbchads or moppies then?
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>>578018693
i hope they DO get buffed.
then i'd finally have a challenge.
i thought i might have one in SoD but oops - shamans were OP. So i manhandled every ret that dared look at me.
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>>578019056
vanilla players can clear ony and mc with -85% player count. ive never seen a video of mop trannys doing 4man mogushan
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>>578019056
>>578019978
bruh hunter players in classic era can solo raid bosses
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>>578019978
probably because mogushan isnt tuned around 20% of the raid carrying the other 80%. also interesting you dont mention vanilla players being mighty enough to undersize the other raids
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>>578011868
bloodlust as we know it wouldnt exist without shaman on both factions doe
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>>578020520
>goalposts: moved
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>>578020757
nothing was moved. you cherrypicked the two braindead vanilla raids youd have to be afk to wipe in as a means of requiring less than 40 players. all while ignoring that it takes 40 players to clear the other vanilla raids; bwl, aq40 and naxx
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>>578021042
the claim: it takes 15 more vanilla players to clear a raid than tbchads or moppies
the truth: you can 3 man onyxia, you cant -12man anything
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>get guild invite
>join
>go to tabard vendor
>its a pink tabard
>/g quit
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>>578021250
>scared of a color

come on now anon. what do the kids call them these days? snowflakes Lol
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>>578021172
you still need 40 players for everything else
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>>578021623
go to youtube and look up bwl 20man
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kek
its him
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>>577949221
bull vs cuckold
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>wake up at 7am
>open window for fresh morning breeze air
>enjoy the fresh air for a bit, watch sheep go off to work
>brew a cup of organic green tea
>take a blanket
>log over to classic ERA and continue my fresh warrior adventures
>music, ambiance set to 100%

Yeap, its mulgore time
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>>578022985
Used to do this like a month ago but then i realised that you fry your dopamine if you log into wow before getting some real work done. Now i work 2-3 hours then lift THEN log in to era. Also hardcore is more fun for leveling then you can transfer era
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>>578000357
resto druid, cat or bear druid, hunter, rogue, warrior all work as nelf but for priest u should be dwarf
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>>578000357
if you're playing era dwarf matters for higher level because of fear ward.

in tbc all priests get fear ward baseline so pick whatever. there are differences but it's not as big as it was.

but also c+ is coming out soon so who cares. pick the class you think you'd like get used to it and the fantasy
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>>578024316
>c+ is coming

Nope, just a seasonal retail server with shop mounts and deluxe packages and token
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>>578024554
yeah yeah say the line
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>>578024554
whether you like or not classic plus will dominate MMO genre
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>>578000920
>you can play hunter. nelf hunter is bis
Aren't dwarfs better because of gun racial? I'm talking about era. Nelfs have nothing better besides better levelling experience because of easier transition because of no wetlands skip
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>>578024797
guns suck, all the best weapons are bows. But stoneform would make them better than nelf.
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>>578024681
it absolutely will, for 3 whole weeks
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>>578024554
>seasonal retail server
>tokens
inb4 it has been datamined, nothing of such has been datamined you sack of shit.
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>>578024681
seasonal twitch kiddie servers can be popular for a bit but they never last long term, look at tbc dropping 30k players every reset and its still running its seasonal retail cycle. Imagine it had been in sunwell for 5 years.
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>>578024797

guns are almost always useless. dwarves are good but nelf is slightly better. shadowmeld is great especially in DMT.
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>>578024903
sky elves, deluxe pre order packages, shop mounts and 3 day head start for 79,99$+tip was datamined, this is only the beginning of course.

As we have seen from the toilet crusade, wrath of the retail king etc, the seasonal retail crowd will buy those packages and shop mounts same as actual retail players.
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>>578024797
dwarf and nelf racials arent that impactful for pve but stoneform is more useful. its not a big deal desu
nothing like the competition for priest racials
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also most people dont even care that you play night elf priest. ive played night elf priest through both era and anni
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>>578024857
>guns suck, all the best weapons are bows
I agree with this but can't you make some guns work because of the racial? You have more options like you have from the human sword racial
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nothing beats feign death into shadowmelt.
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>>578025172
>sky elves
only housing decor and tabard (retail)
>deluxe pre order packages
Housing decor (retail), 2 mounts (for retail, lower poly mounts were found in C+), Rexxar' armor (retail), 2 tabards, Adventurers cloak (retail)
>3 day head start
Speculation, nowhere that info was it found/datamined
> 79,99$+
Speculation due to how it was previously priced, nowhere that info was found/datamined ie. Epic and Heroic versions.
>As we have seen from
Don't get elitist you uppity cunt, more than half of what you are saying is either wrong or intentionally doom posting. Fuck off and next time atleast put some effort in your posts. 8/8 made me reply.
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>>578025750
whatever gets you through the night, lil gup
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>>578025858
>whatever gets you through the night, lil gup
kek, same concede reply as yesterday. gg, hope you get better at this.
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>>578026017
lil gup, in your own post you admitted that the deluxe pre order package has a lower poly version for retail minus, that alone would invalidate the whole game.
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>>578026080
>deluxe pre order package has a lower poly version for retail minus
Also Stiven said that in C+ he found 4 versions of that Cat/Lynx mount ie. race mount vendor. You are legit stupid, you talk as if you have some higher knowledge yet your posts fail to even have basic knowledge of the game. Fuck off, stop wasting my time with your idiotic takes.
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>>578026080
oh my god KYS. in classic tbc anniversary of course.

we're getting ploos. it's happening. how does a low poly version of a mount for a purchase invalidate it.
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>>578024861
30 years
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>>578026080
Nowhere was it said that deluxe package will include lower poly cat mount, it was said that the same mount as the one in deluxe package was also found in C+ datamined files in 4 different colors, lil gup.
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why are you arguing over leaks that will be obsolete when the new leak tomorrow drops
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>>578027071
There is only one leak source that is relevant and that is Stiven who datamines anything that ain't encrypted. Those datamines happen at the end of the working week/Friday when new versions get uploaded to internal or CDN servers. Any other content creator/streamer faggot or that says they have info is either lying/fishing for views or is under strict NDA/won't say shit. We also have lil gup faggots like >>578026080 who think they know and intentionally doom post but fail when get pressed and afterwards corrected.
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>>578026297
>>578026248
Lets examine the facts, shall we?

Fact 1: The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
Fact 2: Blizzard is a publicly traded company which means they have a legal obligation to maximize shareholder profit.

Now lets examine the past behavior of Blizzard when it comes to "Classic"

1) toilet crusade=short term seasonal server with a deluxe pre order deluxe hero package
2) wrath of the retail king=short term seasonal server with a deluxe pre order deluxe hero package
3) Crapaclysm=short term seasonal server with a deluxe pre order deluxe hero package
4) mists of furryland=short term seasonal server with a deluxe pre order deluxe hero package
5)re release of the toilet crusade=short term seasonal server with a deluxe pre order deluxe hero package

Every datapoint of past behavior we have for "classic" is deluxe pre order packages with shop mounts wow token and short term seasonal design where everything is invalidated soon after.

Literally every single thing "classic" that Blizzard has done outside of the original 2019 vanilla release has been a short term seasonal server with shop mounts, tokens, pre order packages and everything being invalidated soon after.

Now, this does not even take into account the disaster that was Season of dis... retail which is not even worth talking about.

Lastly, possibly the most important thing you need to understand is this: Blizzard brought over Holly Longdale from Everquest over to lead the "classic" team and her entire career at EQ was these short term seasonal servers that we see with "classic" now. They literally hired her to do this with WoW and she is the boss that the "classic" team answer to.

I understand your deep need for "classic+" to be real, but its just not going to happen and the sooner you come to grips with this reality the better. The best you're ever going to get is a short term seasonal twitch kiddie distraction with a deluxe pre order package.
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>>578028959
>Predictions and speculations based on rereleases of old expansions which are just that, cash grab
ok, cba dealing with your disingenuous posting ass.
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>>578029635
ngl impressed with the dedication to the troll. it's actually p good. i was going to engage but it's bed time soon.

he's just another plooser that needs his ploosy filled right up like the rest of us
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i hope classic+ has playable goblins
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>>578030487
I hope it has interactive sex animations and abilities for the gooners
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>>578032881
i was going to play femgobo so that would be cool. as long as they have solo stuff too i dont want to have sex with gays and trannys
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I hope camelot is fucking terrible so I don't have to play this piece of shit game with you retards again.
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>>578033319
what did i even do
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>>578033319
lil gups are in for a rude awakening once the pre order deluxe package drops
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I look like this and play female tauren warrior (main tank)
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>>578019056
no logic just emotions ok
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>>578034178
TRANNIES IN UNDIES
PUMP PUMP
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I hope they change the name Sylvanas to Sylvanus in classic+
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Woah just reached the crossroads and its flooded with people. /Who barrens 1-25 shows the max cap of 50.

So many people leveling. Era bulls keep winning.
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wtf is Era, why does it keep being mentioned?
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>>578038668
Classic ERA is permanent vanilla with no resets or seasons.
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>>578034178
wow what a wholesome young woman
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>>578038732
Thanks pimp
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>>578038668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xUnSVTh8fI
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I will play camelot just for money, I have become the jeet
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>>578038668
thriving wow server
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Soon we return to the plains of Mulgore. Evergreen home of harmony and peace.

Soon brothers, soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8PqlJBeuT0
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pluschads won

they fucking won
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>>578044692
only if they own stock in blizzard, those pre order packages and shop mounts will make a lot of money
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>>578041887
was ele shaman good in sod am i playing ele tauren
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>>578045132
no idea, I don't play seasonal retail servers.
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>replayed retail after barely touching it for bfa/shadow
>feels like I'm playing mario party
I don't care if the mechanics are more "complex" (lol) this shit is whack. but I do prefer the rotations
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wow died when "rotations" entered the popular parlance.
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>>578046387
i feel like every single class/spec is just builder/spenders. feels super boring to me.
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We're all preppin for Wrath
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>>578047995
Funny throwback to when wrath of the retail king was first being re released and it was being hyped as the best shit ever and then it just got instantly exposed as complete dogshit

funny stuff
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2pm on a weekday on ERA on the smaller faction.

Only vanilla can achieve something so special. Even with zero updates or new content for 6 years we are pushing on, thriving and pumping.
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>>578048364
post trade chat
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>>578048590
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>>578048804
Grim
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>>578048151
that was funny but the way it happened to pandaria was funnier
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Rumors say they are going to fully disable add-on support for the classic+ version
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>>578054076
What? This CAN'T be happening... the game is unplayable without all the add-ons playing it for me
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I just gquit and unsubbed cause I wasn't having fun raiding anymore, it felt like a chore.
>tfw I feel free, not obligated to farm gold for consumables
>not having to login and sit through 2 hours of a raid I find boring
Gonna catch up on some single player games I missed out on.
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>>578038668
I'm glad i started playing on Era after returning to wow in 2025, my rogue is full t2.5 and i'm having lots of fun. The good part is that i died in hardcore and could just move to firemaw. Erachads can't stop winning
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What do you think could potentially be the most OP class in pvp in this theoretical classic plus? Assuming no new specs/classes appear (as if lol). I'm thinking rogue, hunter or paladin.
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>>578054869
that was me after naxx in classic 2020
classic is just a chore chasing numbers with braindead easy encounters for miniscule upgrades
the only reason to login was to kill people in booty bay with buffs and that isnt worth 15 bucks to me
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Alexensual is the only streamer that is testing classic plus rn.
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one retoilet is worth a thousand nillers
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>>578054869
turns out you dont actually like wow. unfortunately your kind will return
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classic+ will just be vanilla retail. they will iterate over and over, and you will lose progress every time, and have FOMO every time.
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>>578034178
Send me your bathwater.
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>>578035562
>ignores the question
kwab!
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>>578026080
Which one of these faggots are you?
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>gay streamer lingo
kill yourself
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>>578059785
sounds a lot like vanilla fresh
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>>578044906
Did blizzard kick your dog and fuck your mom?
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>>578054076
>>578054076
Lies.
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can an ameribro help translate?
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>>578062908
It's been confirmed. We must boycott blizzard for this. How am I supposed to figure out how to do quests without a guide addon automating my gameplay?
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>>578054076
i already play without addons
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>>577908693
>>Is classic+ happening?
>No, datamining revealed that "camelot" is a seasonal retail server with shop mounts, deluxe pre order packages and not worth paying attention to.

this hasn't been proven in any of the leaks, fuck off
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Camelot is WoW2 Classic
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>>578066798
jerome confirmed it though
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>>578065036
the sad thing is that this person is probably in their 30s
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>>578067363
No he didn't.
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>>578054869
>Gonna catch up on some single player games I missed out on.
My brother in Christ, hardcore is the answer.
>you can log in whenever you want
>you can play at your own pace
>you can play alone
>you can take your time with professions or grinding

Hardcore was unironically made for an escape prison of ENTP's like us who want to live different. Godspeed anon, hop on the game and an adventure awaits you
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>>578069494
forgot
>15 dollars a month
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>>578069494
all these points are true for every version of wow btw
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>>578069494
hardcore has been so much fun that i'm starting to wish the game was designed around it
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i played classic era between 2022-24 and there were still so many fucking sweaty tryhards it killed my fucking mood
just a bunch of faggot old men in their mid 30's screaming during raids
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>>578069494
hardcore is boring as fuck i only played 1 char and it sucks
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>>578072269
the original classic run 2019-2020 was the only good point, but even then it was full of sweats for easy content
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vanilla was never that good. thats why they kept making expansions
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>plays uncslop
>cries about uncs
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I have to perform on this non-competitive game
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>>578069494
>lose all your progress to a disconnect
>forced to start all over again
>or go back to the hell that is PvE Era servers
no thanks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN2U076cdZ8
>tester under nda keeps dodging direct questions (understandable) and instead talks about taking risks (alert).
huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh bros?
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>unironically shilling that shitskin
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>>578074418
>trying to poison my 'tube algorithm with that swarthy grifter
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>>578074418
>xaryu - the FACE of World of Warcraft
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Hear me out.
What if in classicploos the number of inventory slots was increased in order to keep up with an increased number of dungeons+raids giving players more loot
Example: instead of two ring slots you have 5 ring slots
1 of those ring slots can only be equipped with items obtained through pvp content
1 of those rings can only be equipped with items obtained through solo-challenge content (solo timed bosses with extra hard mechanics)
Just fire all the trannies from blizzard and hire me I will deliver never before seen kino
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>>578074418
i cant be bothered to watch, what does he dodge

>>578077289
athene isnt the face of wow, hes the face of cult leading and scamming
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>>578077647
>tfw 3 freezing bands
yep issa kino
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>>578074418
I'm never watching a video where some chud is in the thumbnail or if the video starts with the camera on a person
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>>578078568
>it's now unique
fixed easy
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>>578077648
>t. pwned noob raped in the anus
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>>578078926
thats not kino
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Personally, hardcore is the only way to make 1-60 on stale not feel awful. I do miss pvp from lvl 25-59 tho
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>>578079621
why? i did it once and found it super boring
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>>578079786
you don't like video games
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>>578077648
>i cant be bothered to watch, what does he dodge
Savix : "what do you want in classic+?"
>long pause
>blabla nobody can agree on anything
>errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm, you know, when blizzard made wc3, and then they surprised everyone with WoW, they took risks...
>if they make something new and it sucks, they're idiots...but if its great...they're geniuses....
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>>578079863
wow is just a shallow video game
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>>578079863
what makes you assume that?
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>>578078926
>nofunallowed.jpg
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>>578079863
>>578080654
I find it boring because it just makes you play super safe all the time and take no risks. Literally the only way to fail in hc is to get bored. The whole point of it is to bore you. When I played it everyone was over-leveling dungeons etc. It's piss easy. It's boring because I can never take a risk. Just annoying and boring.
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>>578067395
>probably in their 30s
try 40s.
boomer gamer dads are the worst most miserable people to play with.
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>>578081368
not him but i enjoy it a lot, its fun to be safe and manage pulls with care every single time. And caves are often a death trap so you have to factor in risk/reward and all that.
my only real grips is how you can spend so much time doing shit and then you can potentially die to a d/c. I'm okay with dying when its my fault but just a random act of god feels like dogshit.
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>>578080654
i assume that because you said hc wow is boring
>>578081368
>it just makes you play super safe all the time and take no risks
it doesn't. you decide that all by yourself.
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>>578080561
define shallow
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>never played paladin before in my life
>forced to pick it for plus
why cant these stupid ass devs ever be hunter players
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>>578081698
No, it's not fun it's fucken boring. You can never take your character to the edge and chainpull 2-3-4camps to see how close to the edge can your char go. You have to always play super safe and never discover anything about your char's limits. It blows.
>>578082174
It is boring.
>it doesn't
Yes it does. Why would I be on a lvl55 char and go on a dungeon and chain pull 4 camps that I think might be a bit much and I'm quite likely to die but maybe I can pull it off and learn something from it? Answer: I wouldn't and neither would anyone else. You will just play in a systematic and predictable robotic way all the time. Until you get bored. Then there will be a part of your brain that goes "holy shit this is boring" and save you by doing something wild that you're not supposed to do. And everyone will "lol omg guys WHY did he do that?" and the answer will be: because he's bored of the boring game mode.
Now it COULD be fun if you had some guardrails like for example you can't get past lvl17 until you do every WC quest so you have to go in there with a group of other underleveled chars.
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>>578083220
>Why would I be on a lvl55 char and go on a dungeon and chain pull 4 camps that I think might be a bit much and I'm quite likely to die but maybe I can pull it off and learn something from it?
learn what exactly? you pull shit without using your brain and if you die who gives a fuck you res and try again until it works. hc actually forces you to remember what you learn about the game. using death as a resource is not taking a risk. non-hc is entirely riskless.
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>>578083121
One of the devs in SOD was a hunter player. She was really good too, she did some really high end speedruns. Artemishowl if you're curious.
https://x.com/Artemishowl_?lang=en
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guys im gay but i really like wow and playing with you guys im sorry
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>>578083573
Learn the limits of my character. Can I tank 2 packs here or 3 packs here? You learn to play near the limit and by doing that you learn what your character can actually do.
When playing hc you learn nothing. Just play safe,safe,safe. "remember what you learn"? You learn NOTHING. Everything you learned is prior knowledge from playing the normal version before going into hc. Everyone takes 0 risk because that's objectively the correct way of playing. And that's why it's super boring. I leveled my char to 60 as a tank that one time and I was never close to dying. But I was bored out of my mind. Never again.
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>>578084269
yea you just don't like video games
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>>578084450
what makes you assume that?
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>>578084252
9/10 posters are gay. i should apologize for being straight, but i wont
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>>578084269
In hc they changed xp values in dungeons so bosses give a fuckton and mobs give barely any

you cant tell me that it’s not exciting/limits of your character to solo dungeon bosses as a legitimate form of leveling

You probably just don’t like video games
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im having fun playing hunter
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>>578084607
you describe playing the game like some chore or school course that you are forced to do. i like video games and enjoy playing them. why do you play?
>everyone takes 0 risk
i don't have that experience at all
>that's objectively the correct way of playing
according to literally who? and what happens if you don't? are you just farming green mobs until they're grey?
you maybe have to elaborate on what you consider taking 0 risk looks like. why, for example, do you have to die to evaluate as the risk you took being too high compared to surviving with <10% or having to use a pot or big cooldown?
i was just reclaiming the charred vale on my lvl 26 warrior. would you consider that risky or not?
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What the fuck is this five hour login queue?
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>>578087714
its tbc reset day
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would be cool if mak'goras gave experience desu
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>>578087714
Freaks are DDOSing.
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>>578090280
imagine the streamer simping
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>>578087428
What's the last dungeon you play as hc where everyone went there underleveled? That's right, never.
>i was just doing a piss easy quest that's slightly below my level and oh my hecking cenarius it was so hecking intense
we are simply not the same
i guess you find it extremely exciting to enter rfc at lvl17 too
Actual gamers find this extremely boring.
Playing in hc is a gigachore, the normal game is way more fun. I don't need to be playing in the most pussy way ever all the time, I can actually just play the game and have fun. If you play hc you don't like video games.
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>>578097160
there is literally no need to be upset. maybe you'd be more zen if you actually did something you enjoy. clearly video games aren't your thing.
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>>578097160
Literally no ones stopping you from doing dungeons at an earlier level, I’ve done RFC on all my alts at lvl 13-15 and DM at 17-18 is a staple.

You seem to hide behind excuses and only reply to posts where you can move goalposts
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>>578097160
>I don't need to be playing in the most pussy way ever all the time,
but you are LUL
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>>578098814
>hypothetically no ones stopping you theoretically
Great. What about in the real game. Funny how you didn't answer the question because you know the answer to it is that people always go overleveled and super prepared and are super cautious. BORING.
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hc keks be like "muh faustian spirit" as they avoid every cave and fight mobs 3 levels below them at all times
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>>578090280
faggot elves dont want to hurt people so that will never happen
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>>578100386
hc keks are nothing but content for that swarthy grifter to react to
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>>578101525
why is he the most popular? are the fair skins declining?
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>>578101708
he games the algorithm by posting his disgusting brown face on top of every wow video ever
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>>578101708
fair skins play retail
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>>578099594
nobody but seemingly you actually plays like that
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>>578102537
youre right on twitch it's just fair skins streaming retail. and on classic.

bro's, are we the jeets?
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>>578103192
classic stopped being for the White man the moment alexensual quit playing
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least obvious samefag
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Anyone else here absolutely loathes and despises streamers?
inb4 ''streamers gave you classic'' yes, thats part of why i hate them. out of many reasons.
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I'm torn between either choosing a NE hunter or Orc hunter for classic +
I like both equally but on the alliance side there's more fags but also the horde side there's more spics
Someone please help
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>>578084269
You're acting as if people haven't been playing this fame for 7 years straight. Everyone knows the limits of their character in HC because they've leveled a dozen times before and tested those limits countless times.
Fucking retard.
And your entire argument is retarded becuase it's still YOUR CHOICE to play like a safe little bubble wrap shitter. Nothing is stopping you from doing a more risky pull, you're just a fucking coward.
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>>578111826
>this fame
>Fucking retard.
Who is the retard now, huh?
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>>577998149
I am hoping that alliance can get better racials
I do like their cities a lot more than the hordes
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>>578112058
>he doesn't lnow what fame is
Mem
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>>578112203
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>>578112336
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>>578113054
You talk like a fag and your shit is all retarded.
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the most influential wow streamer aka Alexensual hates israel

Do you hate israel
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Dead game, dead thread not even C+ can save this game. Half this thread is me trying to reply to myself. Can you figure it out anon?
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can you define classic plus for me
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>>578119578
A version of WoW that feels like vanilla but has some quality of life improvements and brand new cities, zones, quests, dungeons, raids etc.
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gonna make a rogue to lockpick
what race for horde?
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I've seen more Azeroth than Earth.
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>>578119578
Everything that I want and nothing that other people want
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play night elf hunter on ERA
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>>578122496
Earth has active same faction PVP enabled in cities, it's a shitty game.
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>>578124464
only on horde
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>>578124761
Alliance too. They've unfortunately added the subsaharan allied race.
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>player is trash
>suspect they are german
>they are german
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>>578126703
This but Spanish speaking people. Every. Single. Time
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The OFFICIAL Class/race combo breakdown

>fHUMAN
CRINGE TROON ATTENTIONLOSER across the board
>Mhuman
War/Pal/Rog probably unironically retarded
Warlock/Mage/priest probably a 30 year old that still things being edgy is cool
>Mdwarf
Fucking retarded across the board. Except rogue and paladin. They’re goats
>FDwarf
8/10 and above players across the board
>Gnome
Fucking retarded across the board
>Elf
The worst and best players across the board. Be ready to one second meet a femelf hunter that screams when you attack her, runs into a wall while you auto her to death and then cries on stream for 20 minutes, followed by a 3100rating one that rapes you so hard there’s blood in your stool
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>>578127450
male dwarves are good if they pick the right face
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>>578128004
whats the right face?
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>>578128339
if you know, you know
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>>577995795
yes but on the pvp realm and alliance
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>>578128430
but i wanna know
i want to make a dwarf pally healer and be the right face or else ill be female dwarf instead
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>>578126703
This but on sod and they're guzu simps
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>level up in dungeon
>no one says grats
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ever since 2020, all of the libtards and trannies went horde and the maga chuds went alliance. i tried SoD horde, never again. absolute low IQ wigger trash playing on horde / raiding now. the type of retard wiggers who will shit talk you for parsing worse than them even though they’re in full tier and you’re in blues and greens. horde getting elves had very little bearing on the culture. it’s the infiltration of retailfags.
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>>578128702
the deranged face
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just hit 68
will i be taken to sl, sh, dm, etc?
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>>578145197
of course you just have to wait longer
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>>578133080
>/emote congratulates himself!
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>>578133080
sorry bro we were talking in discord
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>>577936636
This shit would be huge
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>>577936636
Atiesh really need that animation to look like an actual legendary, that's why they added it in TBC
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>>578119578
exactly like vanilla but paladin is the top dps class
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>>578119578
new content in the style and spirit of vanilla. whether that be classes, quests, races, zones, raids, etc
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>>578102686
Right, you're all cleaving dungeons and chainpulling at 100hp and soloing caves and don't even bother having pots cuz you're just ballers like that. You're totally not carrying any petris ever.
When you are done lying to yourself then you can reply to me.
The matter of fact is that hc creates an incentive to play safer than usual. This is undeniable. If you can't even admit to that then you're not a serious person.
Once you admit to that you admit that you play safe. There is absolutely 0 challenge in hc once you play safe. All there really is... is boredom. The only reason you will take some risks here and there is because you are bored. Because you know it's easy.
And by the way I was soloing elites and going into caves and doing all that. But it was still fucking boring because I'm never going to force a situation where it's a 30/70 chance to succeed. Why would I? I'll just eat up and go for it at a 0.1/99.9 chance.
You're never really in any danger. If you're the tank in the dungeons there is no way things can go wrong other than your healer dc midpull. If you're the healer you will only be in danger if your tank is retarded. If you're dps you can just disengage and get out anytime. Worst case scenario petri out. Where is the risk again? There is no risk. There is only one thing: BORING.
By the way all this could be fixed by adding some simple rules. For example lvl limit to enter dungeon and no xp gain until you beat it. Dungeon LOCKED once you get in meaning you can't just run out or hs out at all. If you mess up a pull you have to fight and figure it out or die. Increased difficulty and new mechanics in mobs, etc.
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>here's my essay as to why infinite retries mode is actually harder than one life
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>>578153220
>harder
Who said anything about harder?
It's about which mode is more interesting to play and which one promotes a safer and more boring playstyle.
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>>578153370
someone already told you you can play baller if you want to
It genuinely feels like cope stemming from an inferiority complex
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>>578153462
>The matter of fact is that hc creates an incentive to play safer than usual. This is undeniable.
Are you denying this?
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Alexensual status???????
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>>578152931
when i went to bed these goalposts were way over yonder
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>>578154562
in brazil, every hole filled
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>>578155389
>moving the goalposts
The posts are where they always were. It's a simple yes or no question. Why dodge it.
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>>578155690
because you're clearly not serious. you're seethingly arguing a ridiculous position in bad faith because you hate video games.
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Hey wowtards, do any of you yellow toothed losers jack off a lot? You look like thrall dude. Also, when was the newest fresh released. I wanna get in on that, I love a good fresh realm. Give me the details please and thanks.

-xarn godraper
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my teeth are relatively white and i jack off a moderate amount
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>>578156553
This is a classic case of too much power. You have the tools to commit suicide, use them. There is no support out there. Haha just kidding hopefully it works out for this wowtard
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>>578155946
>The matter of fact is that hc creates an incentive to play safer than usual.
Yes or no?
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Did I fuck up picking TBC PvP server? Feels like the server is heavily lopsided in favor of 60+ lvl players and it seems like there's absolutely no feeling of community
Haven't played since Covid btw I miss these days
Also my fucking Classic character got transferred to Mist of Pandaria what the fuck
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>>578069494
hardcore is fun if you fuck around take risks and have fun with it. Being a boring cunt doing dungeons when everything is grey/green is pussymode shit. Also HC ends at level cap. Raiding HC is retarded.
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>>578162505
you could at least try to kill everyone with living bomb
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>>578161518
Everybody is raidlogging already, classic plus can't come soon enough
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bis fever must die
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>>578161518
Blizzard insists on only doing mega servers now with populations of tens of thousands which pretty much kills any sense of community outright. Also the only people left playing classic at this point are absolute dregs still trying to chase the dragon even though the magic died years ago.
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>>578166437
i think classic + will be an absolute failure if there are only 2 realms to choose from and not 5+. unfortunately the normie retard goy cattle that have infiltrated the game don’t care.
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clessuc plos copium
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNGRYiGyueU

our guy is finally live
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Classic Plus needs THIS! (big red arrow pointing at the cvnny)
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>>578169380
they already have retail for the lgtq2ia+ audience
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>>578169380
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>>578169380
Here's your fate once we find you
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>>578169380
Holy...
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>>578169380
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>>578169380
>been almost a decade since ive seen a non modded image from this game
kek thats how you know thats all it has going for it
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In + you should be able to level rep with the scarlet crusade the same way you can do it with the bloodsail buccaneers
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is plus even real at this point? we should have a couple of leaked stuff already but there's nothing
and with blizzcone being so close i fear it's gonna be another sneedsonal server
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>>578169380
what's the cope? they're all over 1 million years old or something?
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>>578178873
we will get more leaks when things are closer to blizzcon. 99% of leaks now are fan fiction reddit nonsense.
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What stage is anniveseary stage in?
early BC?
late BC?
Im fiending for the maze and wanna know if its too late to get into heroics and raiding?
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>>578184764
BT next week. No one is doing heroics anymore
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human rights? i only know about tauren rights, gwahaha! *smashes your head with my totem pole and moos*
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>>578187770
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viFhb2PDuYA
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Why do they call her Sally Plapmane?
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>>578176976
By killing Undead players? I completely agree
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>>578184764
late-stage TBC
raid logging and no one around at all
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>>578170335
Fine, here's your fate
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/boopac-shakur-was-not-fatally-shot-accusing-someone-pedophilia-michiga-rcna118720
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>>578185086
i just did two heroics today, thoughever
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is blizzcon today
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Anyone know about a decent TBC private server I can play? I don't care about population. I just want to check something real fast and there are no youtube videos for it, they are all videos about modern retail wow.
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>>578194319
no idea but you can ask your question here. i know a lot about tbc.
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>>578191162
Would almost be too based for current blizz
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>>578197975
>no idea
You don't know shit
>>578194319
Whitemane's TBC will release in December. It's the same core as Atlantiss/Stormforge so it's going to be good
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>>578197975
post the skin tones of the blood elves from the original tbc game client
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You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
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>>578201523
where did it all go wrong
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viFhb2PDuYA

Yup, I'm thinking WotLK Anni HYPE
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>hat indoors
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r5UlFJm-EU

my boys are talking about C+
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>swarthy fat in thumbnail
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>>578201835
It's an accessory. You should wear it all the time
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>People asking for scalable solo content in C+
I mean, isn't that just Torghast and delves? Do people really just want retail with an old 2004 skin? Is that what Classic+ really is?
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>>578201820
>uldgar
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>>578206842
"People" don't want this. Retail retards / troons want to simultaneously play retail and current meme at the same time. Solo content, RDF, Raid Finder and megaservers / layering are literally the antithesis to classic WoW.
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>>578206842
its as if they dont actually know what they want
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>>578206842
the word people is doing a lot of heavy lifting here
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pretty much the only thing i want is new quests and items at all levels
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>>578206842
Solo content is actually cool if done right. Notice how your only frame of reference is thorgast which was extremely dogshit. Maybe take a look at other games?
Throne and Liberty had an amazing solo content system that worked like this. 2 weekly solo bosses in a rotation (no tedious stupid trash like in thorgast, just get in and kill 1 boss) with interesting/hard mechanics and a time limit. There was a leaderboard for each boss where you could see the top times in real time of the whole server. The player who finishes first wins (let's say for wow) an arcanite bar and some random mats or something. It's not about the reward it's about having fun competing. The top 3 got lesser rewards and so on. It was super fun, specially when considering certain bosses were weaker against certain builds. I got top1 in both bosses and it's very fun to try to perfect it so you're .20 seconds ahead of the 2nd place.
Something like this would make classic wow so much better, there are no downsides.
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>>578209192
>Throne and liberty
I already play one dogshit game, don't have time to play a second unfortunately.
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>>578209192
Also it's not like in thorgast ( i dont remember exactly) where you HAD to do it because you needed something in there for the legendary items or whatever it was. You just get some mats like agility potions or whatever for being top 10. It's not like you're missing out and HAVE to do it which is the retarded mindset blizzard always has (at least for retail)
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>>578209341
The game being good or bad is irrelevant. This system of theirs was kino. If they managed to pull it off on classic+ it would be amazing but it requires interesting mechanics for it to make sense.
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>>578206842
who is people? toilet tourists?
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>>578209192
Quests are solo content. Dungeons are group content. There's no reason to mix that up. If you actually read quest text, the story is the reward. You don't need to give brown monkeys increased rewards. What are we even doing here if not continuing vanilla WoW's story?
>>578208613
this and increased spec viability. i want to be an asset in a dungeon as a rogue without having to go combat.
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>>578209825
why do you want to play + if you don't want to see new things?
just go play era
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>>578209924
why do you want to play classic + if you want retoilet gameplay?
just go play retoilet
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>>578210898
>anything new is retail
poop brain
let me know if you have something of substance to say
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>>578211669
you're advocating for things that exist in retail
you're brown haha
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>retoilers trying to shit in the classicbowl with retoilet ideas
Stinky doodoo fart retoilers go back to your game
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cant believe bludworth is still blaming retoilets for why classic sucks smdh
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tfw the loot council guys don't know anything about the game
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Us Nost vets didn't ask for any retoilet feature like sharting/mega servers/chronoboon/modern ui/duel spec/no debuff limit/instant mail etc
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>>578213808
so fucking stinky and shitty they are
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hunter or warlock for tbc
Only reason I'm stuck is because I'm debating on how likely I am to get a spot in a group and I frankly don't know if the ammo bag is worth gonig hutner to give up a bag slot for
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Listen up retoiletards. I will only say this once. You are not welcome to offer suggestions about how the game should go. You are not even welcome on our servers. If you are even suspected of being from retail, you will be removed from my dungeon / raid groups. You made / shit your bed, now sleep in it, retoiletard. Capiche? Good bitch. Now go cry on the Blizzardjeet-troon forums.
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have nost tards figured out they are lower than retoilets yet?
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10 vanilla players can destroy 10 million TBC players
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>>578218605
survival hunter can probably get a raid spot. my alt raid is fixing to drop one of our nigger hunters who just wont play it despite knowing we need one
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*leaks camelot on his stream* BURRRRRRRRRRPS UP DOODS
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>>578206842
Anyone who wants that shit isn't people
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>>578222648
what is even the point of this fat retard playing classic+? he hates classic.
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Bring back Alexensual.
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>>578208613
The devs who to write quests in the game are probably the same type of people who would get raped by a large amount of gnomes in the face and enjoy it.
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>>578225590
he gave you classic, show some respect
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>>578228383
Alex did
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blizzard gave you classic. youre playing a blizzard game
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>>578230572
Alex did by playing nost and other different private servers.
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once c+ comes out can all the era only enjoyers have their own threads. no changes retards are not even playing era right now either i bet
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>>578230871
>some no life skill loser gave us classic by playing an illegal version of it
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even classic feels like retail
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>>578232353
it's been retail all along?
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Would TBC not die over night the moment they announce Classic+ releases a month or two after Blizzcon?
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what compels a blud to believe this add on is absolutely necessary or helpful in any way
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>>578232527
Do yOu gUys nOt Have eyES?????
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>>578232512
the nillers yearn for tabletop dnd
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>>578232527
I'll protect that healer if you can't
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>>578232520
yes but TBC+
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>>578232520
anni uncs wont be able to handle black temple. just saw some guilds being stuck on the first bosses lol on the ptr
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>>578232353
In which way? Maybe because both games feel dead in the open world that's the only similarity.
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>>578232520
id just play both if it ends up being good. revolutionary concept, i know
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>>578233580
only brown ass losers would want this
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>>578232353
>layering
>third world faggots botting and raping the economy
>mass reporting
gee i wonder why "classic" feels like retail
>>
>people who were right
>alex
>brack
am i missing anyone?
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>>578236696
asmon and soda
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Faction 1
>Humans
>Dwarves
>High elves
>Patch race: Gnomes

Faction 2
>Orcs
>Tauren
>Trolls
>Patch race: Ogres

Faction 3
>Forsaken
>Blood elves
>Naga
>Patch race: Worgen (the cool old ones from vanilla not the shitty new ones)

Faction 4
>Night elves
>Furbolgs
>Cenarius's descendants (Keepers&Dryads)
>Patch race: Emerald dragonkin
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just hit 68
should i go to blades edge or skip to shadowmoon or netherstorm?
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>>578238220
>just hit 68
Just retire and stay in booty bay and live out your days gramps.
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>>578209779
>crying about retail tourists
>IMD5 from wowg
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>>578239030
Volumes!!
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>>578237973
Only a brown mind could come up with this
>>
play on era or tbc anni. i dont' care for doing end game tbc content rn but era is dead
>>
wtf am I doing with my time? All I'm doing is hitting npcs until they die over and over. There must be more to life.
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>>578240753
TBC is dead too
>>578240892
PVP
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>>578240753
ERA is thriving
>>
era fell off. thats why you keep asking for fresh
>>
>log in
>feel like what's the point since c+ is cumming in our ploosies soon
>log out

guess I should do something else
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>>578248132
>holding out for sod 2
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>>578248434
i'm tired of doomposting bro's. sod 2 retail 2 retail minus metzens menagerie of men idk man call it whatever yo uwant IM WAITING.

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/project-camelot-found-on-chinas-vendor-server-382551

new info though. ploos is cooming
>>
classic plus will dominate MMO genre for a thousand years.
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>>578248512
>They just started localization
Uhhh, I'm pretty sure it'll be out in October or something.
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>>578246138
no, it's because the third world invaded classic and we want to be grouped with normal people
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>>578248434
sod 1 was good, you stupid fag
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>>578248846
retail fixed this(the 3rd worlders cant run the game)
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i didnt get the final verdant sphere to replace my blue agility neck. dumbass guild think im gonna do pugs for it LMAO and somebody else can scorpid sting now
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>>578047139
So, Cataclysm
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>>578248712
yeah he don't know shit about shit other than pulling info. localization work would have been done prior and then finally put onto the client for finishing touches/regulators to ensure it's up to their standards.

10/29 and 10/13 date was floated around. 2 months of testing seems p right.
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>>578145197
To the mines with you
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>>578232527
>watch classic video
>it's full of sirens and screaming sound effects after certain gameplay events like low health
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you know what can save wow?
a new fresh
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our thread is dying. not a good look
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>>578060692
I don't use discord
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>>578074018
>or go back to the hell that is PvE Era servers

can you not go to a pvp server?
>>
>>578248132
>she's waiting to pre order a deluxe package so she can ride her shop mount into lfr with her deluxe package transmog as a panda deathknight

grim, I'll stay on ERA
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>install classic era
> we're home, the music, the ambiance so amazing
>auto attack mobs with a 1 button rotation for 3 hours collecting tiger cocks and wolf eyes
>this game sucks lol, uninstall.
>2 days later re install and repeat cycle

on my 4th uninstall/reinstall now.
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>>578260284
>logs onto era
>doesnt log onto main because he's only raid logging since there is nothing else to do at max
>rolls his fifteenth warrior
>grinds hyena schlong
>they don't drop
>forgets about female hyenas
>wait those also have dicks wtf blizzard
>goes onto /v/eddit to complain
>logs off

the cycle continues
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>>578260687
>>578260687
>have you tried not buying gold for real money? you choose to skip a large part of the game with real money and then complain about lack of things to do.
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>>578261087
>i won't buy my gold i'll let others buy it for me and then take it from the gdkp.
> what's that anon? of course i'm not helping facilitate a gold buying ecosystem
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Kungen, the #1 best world first raider in wow history with all world first kills from vanilla to end of TBC said it best: Raiding is the worst part about WoW and raids should have been never even added to the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MNFWhCw8dg
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>>578262876
yep. raiding was famously thrown together in a weekend wow existed before raids
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>>578262876
how is this guy still alive? reckful ltierally died for his sins
>>
>>578264069
he was the guy who cucked reckful??
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>>578263848
Not what he said.
>>
>Le raiding is le bad meme
>>
All i do is worry
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>>578240892
Man i've been playing since June again and last night i had an existential dread after thinking all of the wasted summer time grinding levels like a maniac and another canon event was the nolife of my guild no logging on for 10 days who was the guy who guided me through AQ40 and Naxx and we talked for endless hours. I can't even log in for the last 2-3 days without having a panic attack
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>>578164824
i get that we're on 4chan and everything but I actually don't like being a dickhead and ruining other peoples fun, even if I disagree with it.
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camelot hype chyna hype
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if you're not leveling AT LEAST 5 prot paladins for wrath anni gdkps idk what your doing with your life
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>>578289315
literally anything else. I play one chracter and I play it well. everything else is just noise.
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>>578289315
>wrath anni gdkps
??
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>>578292919
>He doesn't know
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>>578294352
I don't, enlighten me please
>>
What's one thing that would stop you from playing classic +?
For me it's one of the following:
>level boosts
>no RP-PVP or at least PVP realm
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>>578298262
abilities or talents from any retail version
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>>578298262
Time gated leveling/leveling phases. It just means that they need more time and that was their way of buying it in SOD. It pretty much would confirm that C+ is half baked.
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>>578299772
i actually really liked the time gated leveling phases.
am i retarded?
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>>578298459
that's one thing that annoyed me on SoD, although I think it was mostly TBC stuff they added
>>578299772
i don't mind that at all if it's done right. SoD's first two phases were incredible.
>>578298262
gay / woke shit like the incubus pet
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i told you guys that ploos was just titanforged without all the chink pay to win crap and now it's confirmed
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>>578300751
>>578300778
Like I said previously, if they resort to leveling phases, it's typically because they need time which means their pushing a product that isn't complete which means we could potentially run into another Sunken Temple phase where there was nothing to do for 4 months while they worked on getting Cataclysm to work.
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>>578301053
if you were a PVPer, those phases were extremely based and naughty. especially the ST phase where you could camp the Ashenvale road and get a PVP rank / buy the PVP gear at 50.
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>>578301989
>if you were a PVPer
If you were a boomkin or hunter*
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>>578302123
i camped there as a rogue for 3 days straight and got an obscene amount of honor because 90% of the people on the road were bots
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>>578298262
pre order package
shop items
token
transmog
seasonal design
new race
new class
warlock tanks, rogue healers
focusing on raids instead of real content
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>>578298262
>Blood elves
>Layered pvp realms
>Retail abilities like SoDomy
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>>578300985
so its sod 2?
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>>578300985
>>
>>578237973
kino, only two factions were always a mistake
>>
I WANT NAGASI WANT NAGASI WANT NAGASI WANT NAGASI WANT NAGAS
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>>578237973
forsaken in faction 3 makes no sense. forsaken dont really make sense being in a faction at all actually
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testaments status?
>>
listen
even if you're not with me
i'm with you
with youuuuu
with youuuuuuuu
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>>578311040
>MCFatass
>>
How fast will these threads keep rolling 1 month from now? Just think about it brothers and sisters
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>>578311040
>retoilet
>>
please please oh PLEASE daddy aggrend make melee hunter again for cameslop, that's what i ACTUALLY want when i pick the only ranged weapon focused class
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>>578312119
Are you a parse autist? Why does it matter?
>>
>>578312086
>retail out of nowhere
hes playing sod, thoughever
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>>578312436
you only get female hormones if you parse high enough
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>>578311040
>webcam
how gay do you have to be
>>
>>578298262
alliance elf race
unchanged molten core
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>>578303601
kino
picking a race for shaman is too hard
>>
I don't feel good if I parse but I feel bad if I don't
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>>578319192
you wont say that when you get the 100
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Hunter or mage for TBBC annie? I like the thrill of world pvp while leveling.
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>>578303601
blood elves are happening whether you like it or not so don't play
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yeah you already know blood elf is coming so they can put pala on horde and blood elf is the most popular race in the game
the real question is what they do to alliance and how they add alliance shaman since drae isnt a guarantee
>>
How much money will I need at release so I can buy all the blizzardshop level boosts and mounts and exclusive new race for paying customers?
>>
For ploos, I want more blood and gore.
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>>578323489
probably just dwarf shaman, although I'd like a nelf shammy
>>
nelfie
>>
am i playing murloc hunter or murloc shaman bros
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>>578324097
dwarf shaman seems possible but unfortunately that would make high elves an easy add
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>>578325105
They can just make undead palas, or tauren
>>
Are you guys frugal with your gold?
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>>578323489
i think draenei come in as an expac race whenever they do their outland/illidan arc. doesn't fit well thematically otherwise. wonder what the horde would get then at that point.

wildhammer dwarves + hinterland high elves makes a ton of sense at the start. horde get belfs for their pals
>>
I know 2 blood elf female paladins irl and they both trooned the fuck out.
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>>578326236
On TBC? Yeah, you kind of have to be. Running out of gold means slaving away at a $1/H gold farm or risking your account by buying gold. Bots and gold farmers have caused so much inflation completely unbothered that I just know C+ is going to suffer the same fate.
>>
>>578314706
i use one for my job all the time
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>>578311040
Based Virgin Mary Icon but get your filthy foot away from it
>>
Even if the story was true you can't be a virgin after giving birth vaginally.
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>>578316289
>Orc gets op racial and nice animations
>Tauren gets 2nd best mount but goofy animations
>Troll gets best horde mount and berserking works best on shamans
Never played a troll before but I enjoyed it, being able to spam lesser healing wave when low hp due to berserking was clutch in pvp.
>>
>>578329281
Tauren DW animation is BiS.
>>
why did catakiddies hate the underwater content again
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>>578327758
Its insane blizzard has allowed it to get this bad. You just know they are using them as margin boosters and MAU reports to their shareholders and are well aware at how unplayable they're making the game. The problem is its not getting fixed unless people quit and tell them to fix it or fuck off.
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>>578298262
updated character models
I swear all the people who praise them are suffering from mass psychosis because the majority of them look terrible
>>
Should I move to outland as soon as I hit 58 on a warrior? So far I've only do quests where mobs are 2-5 lvl below me. Killing anything higher is awfully slow and I have to sit down to eat every fight but then Outlands XP and gold is too good to ignore.
>>
>>578332507
yes
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>>578331632
>The problem is its not getting fixed unless people quit and tell them to fix it or fuck off.
People will never quit, they're thoroughly addicted.
>>
hate looking up c+ content on youtube and it's just fat guys. disgusting
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Fuck that demon cave in Durotar.
>>
>>578332507
no you need naxx gear to kill hellboars
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>>578334000
My first HC char ever died to the goblins standing in a circle in durota near the harpies and thunder lizards. I've been avoiding that quest ever since.
>>
I want to play some classic, maybe join a guild and make some friends ahead of classic +, should i go for tbc or classic era?

Also i have alliance on nightslayer but might want to make horde on the pve server, dunno how much more dead that server is in comparison
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>>578322358
TBC is dead dude. There’s like no WPVP.
>>
it took this TBC anniversary to realize that TBC actually sucks really bad and only classic WoW is worth playing.
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>>578337795
why do you say that?
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>>578337795
because the first tbc classic was just the wrath waiting room so we sucked it up
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>>578337795
It'd suck less if they didn't throw us onto a 100K mega server with 5 layers and did nothing to stop the third world menace from shittifying the game.
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>>578337257
On EU anniversary servers level 30-65 areas are literally warzone at some hours.
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>>578337894
it’s just raid logging after kara
no reason to ever leave leave shatt either
>>
i have a lvl 35 night elf rogue or a 55 human warrior on nightslayer, will i have a horrible time at 70 if i play casually as one of those? I keep reading about how meta chasing this server is. I might just want to arena as a rogue and have fun
>>
>>578337795
im enjoying tbc just as much as i did before, though
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>>578338785
if you plan on solely PVPing you won’t have a bad time on your rogue. most raids are cunts about rogues.
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>>578335405
How about SM gears and that blue polearm from AV?
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>>578339704
yeah thats what i hear, i just want to casually play an mmo on my steam deck and wow classic honestly ended up being the best. It works REALLY well. I dont want to go hardcore raiding, i got my fill getting CE in all of TWW and with classic + coming up it would be nice to meet a few people to maybe dive into that with.
>>
can we start a new guild on era? I miss playing with anons. no discord servers though because that always leads to drama
>>
>>578341214
theres not even enough people here playing era to run a dungeon
>>
>>578341214
>>578341303
like maybe 1 guy on these threads plays era lmfao.
>>
>>578341214
come play hc
>>
Wait, what is this server Maladath, it wasnt there last time i played anni
>>
>>578341214
>era
unplayable slop
trade/world chat is nothing but GDKP or boosting spam
economy is fucked
why the fuck would anyone play this besides 3rd worlders who buy/sell gold?
>>
>>578342308
which faction?

>>578344392
I dont want to play tbc.
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>>578345229
alliance on soulseeker eu
>>
I have killed KT on hardcore

please blizzard make C+ have HC please please please
>>
All versions of classic are so fucking dead that all of my go-to classic streamers are playing single player games. Lmao.
>>
stop calling me a niller
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>>578344392
Does era really have thirdie gold farmers? I thought they all moved on to anni.
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>>578352780
yeah because of gdkps. otherwise the server would be as dead as sod
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>>578352780
yeah, 95% of raids on era are GDKP, not exaggerating. gold seller's paradise. people bidding 5 figure gold sums for naxx gear.
>>
>>578353469
>>578352882
I thought most gdkps were run by americans and euro neet guilds
But then again gold farmers would still be selling all the mats/consumes for the gdkp paypigs
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>>578354298
eh most of them are. would say like 70 english speakers 30 non. the english speakers are paypigs though swiping like crazy. really need a bot solution for c+
>>
>>578355518
its actually expected that you swipe now, its insane.
and places like reddit love to pretend they hate swiping but those dudes are first in line buying gold out the ass. same with mmo champ.
its become so normalized. it's disgusting.
>>
>>578356095
yeah. blizz has a problem with their playerbase having more disposable income and making "out of game purchases" are common in gaming in general right now. something needs to be done. either an outlet for them to spend money on or extreme perma bans.

personally would want them to put housing out how the original game devs wanted it. fill that with microtransactions and let them spend money there
>>
>>578338197
i agree. but really, TBC was so good because we were still riding the high of classic, which was great because of no third world shitters or layering.
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>>578298262
not having The Nicker
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just took the dwarf rogue redpill. best pvp race for dwarf, even better than undead or orc
>undead
>alliance have fewer locks and priests to begin with
>rogue pvp trinket already breaks fear and charm
>dont get a free trinket slot since you still need your trinket for polymorph
extremely overrated
>orc
>blood fury is nice but if there's a single screwup and you start taking damage, your pot will now be useless. unnecessary risk
>stun resist is the best single racial for pvp overall but it's mostly good for other rogues, which dorf does better

dwarf
>stoneform, besides giving a bit more armor, removes the dots from warrior, rogue and hunter, easily 40-50% of the enemies you'll encounter, enabling you to properly restealth to bandage/eat etc
>because it can remove blind, that's an enemy rogue's #1 reset ability - makes you much better for rogue vs rogue than orc
>>
>>578018156
Ret paladin can crush you pretty easily before AQ40, but in p5 and p6 gear it's not nearly as likely. Ret pally AQ40/Naxx gear isn't much of a step up from r14 as it is for ele, ele has a massive gear advantage all do all caster classes.
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>>578356818
Dwarf Rogue was my first serious main. Insanely fun, and they look good in all of the gear
>>
should i make a ele shaman?
>>
>>578356818
>>578358123
Gnome is by far the best rogue race if you want to go cold blood + prep (which you should since it's the most unfair spec) since the biggest downside to that build is that you miss out on sprint's talented ability to break movement impairing effects. Escape artist basically saves you 12 talent points, which is insane.
>>
>>578361746
i was just thinking that wtf
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>>578361826
ya i just want to zap things
still dont know what race to do
>>
>>578361896
body type 2 draenei. the superior race
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>>578361746
tbc ele shaman is a lot of fun and I really hope that the classic+ ele sham is closer to that then SoD retail bullshit
>>
kinda kino how ele shaman just presses lighting bolt for 20 years
>>
just made a ele shaman
what should my prof be?
>>
Era is thriving.
>>
Here's how to save c+:
Personal loot with bonus roll tokens you earn from a weekly q
Gdkp remains banned
Anyone caught buying gold gets permabanned instantly
>>
No wonder sod is dead when people actively make the game impossible to play for fresh players.
Got to 60, crafted a set of scarlet gear, and I'm just getting gatekept out of fucking zg and mc
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>>578371413
herb/mine until 60, then engi tailoring
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>>578375330
that can never happen, if people get banned for buying gold there's no incentive to bot to farm and sell gold. Bots make up 20-30% of the playerbase, thats hundreds of millions of dollars a year.
>>
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS THREAD
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>>578375993
Bots use stolen cards so they don't pay anything because the money gets charged back
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>>578376215
Wrong, this hasn't been the case since 2007.
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>>578262876
testaments and volumes, buck broken gear chasers have a hard time accepting this.
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i got the classic HC itch again but i dont want to support anti white agenda from californian blue hair faggots. what to do. maybe i go and play something else
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>>578377934
The transgender department needs your funding sir, please redeem the needful.
>>
>>578377934
SPP
>>
Fresh when
>>
>>578385153
blizzard lost the technology
>>
>wake up
>still not blizzcon
>still not even september
>>
>>578377934
> dont want to support anti white agenda from californian blue hair faggots
>what to do
have you considering growing up and acting like an adult man instead of a retarded 14 year old boy?
>>
20 days until blizzcon! Are we excited? Are we watching alone having our own opinion or getting to know what to think from parasocializing with a streamer? The main event should be open to everyone, but if I want to be a bit naughty is there a place to watch the panels without paying for the pass?
>>
>>578392453
I will read a recap on mmo champ and discuss with friends on discord after. I'm not watching cringe live.
>>
it will be the best blizzcon ever
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>>578392453
I do not watch streamers or youtubemen. They're all performative grifters.
>>
what if no classic+ at blizzcon



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