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Buff Shiv Edition

>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/708906085669405228

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>577863102 (Cross-thread)
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Buff Graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
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>>577976379
what was that? another wraith buff? sure!
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Silver nerfs soon
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>>577976368
hes so fucking detached from reality i cba even getting into it just watch the last like 30 min on his stream if you care
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i find rushing spirit burn and phantom strike against celeste a good counter to her overtuned kit
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>>577976585
Someone report back, I need to know
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>>577976525
careful Abrams
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>>577976585
I'm gonna mindcontrol yoshi into giving silver huge buffs so he uninstalls the game
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>>577976583
>nerfing the worst hero in the game
If they actually nerf her there's literally no point playing, the devs are actual retards
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>>577976525
Based beyond comparison
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Just did so badly in an Abrams game that I think I'm gonna uninstall. I have nobody to blame for the loss except myself.
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>>577976769
They could revert every nerf she's ever received and she'd still be mediocre at best.
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>valve has given up on making anticheat for cs2 already
>they are making people waste time banning them manually instead of hiring someone
deadlock is DOA if they cant deal with cheaters, it's over
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>>577976694
hes talking about how he HAS to buy GTA 6 to play it on stream but a ps5 pro is 899 us dollarinos and he cant afford that since hes a measly streamer but he has to play it because of fomo even though its likely a net negative on viewers so now hes talking to grok about devising a strategy to buy a ps5 from costco and returning it within the 90 day period
it's a bit more intricate than that but hes so fucking stupid like bro you probably have like 2k viewers if you actually play deadlock and dont cry about silver all day
you're not fucking poor you were talking about flying to mexico and new york to watch world cup games that are probably like $10000 tickets
suck my fucking dick vegas
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Just had some guy in the kiddie pool baby mode (brawl) sperg the fuck out at me for not "building the meta" and that I "threw the game by not building gun Bebop". People really can't be taking brool mode this seriously. lmao
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>>577977000
I thought valve liked cheating
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>>577977193
is his name IAN?
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>>577977187
Do people actually care about GTA 6, seems astroturfed as shit
5 was mediocre all things considered and ended up being a microtransaction money printer abusing kids with poor impulse control
6 will be more of the same
RDR2 wasn't that good either btw, it wants to be a movie game and a open world at the same time so its ends up feeling schizophrenic
Rockstar has to be the most overrated company of all time, DUDE THEY ANIMATED HORSE SHIT CLAP
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They should double Vindicta's ult damage while nerfing her gun and changing the stacks on it to spirit, I want to be a sniper not a floating M1 ranged creep.
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>>577977187
who the fuck wants to watch a PC exclusive MOBA streamer with no personality stream GTA 6
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>>577977000
You're training an AI not banning someone, tech illiterate moron
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>>577977641
no you dont understand if he cant play it he has to watch xqc play it and then he cant stream and loses money and hes poor
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>>577967530
I truly hope he never changes
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>>577977664
They already had an ai on it for 3 years why do I have to do it
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is this the perfect dynamo build?
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>>577977574
The meme was the interesting part, now that it's actually coming out no one cares.
People my age haven't touched a rockstar game since San Andreas or 4 if theyre big fans.
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I thought skill was supposed to be a bell curve.
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>>577977574
I couldnt even finish gta 5's story it was just ass. Splitting between 3 people made it feel retarded
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>>577977971
brick gods WON
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>>577977880
escalating is dogshit
reverb is really good
get an indom over witchmail
probably an unstop
i really like 4.8k gun invest with recharging rush too, max 1 early farm like a god
if this is an ult build its even worse
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can they buff silver and shiv they are unplayable in phantom thank you
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>We get rejuv and siege base after being on the backfoot
>Get told to back out after I takeout the last set of base guardians
>Notice we still have rejuvs
>Me and Seven ask why did we pullout
>No response
>Lose game
I hate standardniggers so much it's unreal
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>>577976315
looks like a monkey
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>>577978205
Silver is unplayable in all ranks
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>>577978304
and?
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>>577978331
She needs big buffs to her base HP. It kinda made sense to make her squishy when she had access to heal on kill during her ult but now it makes no sense to keep her so weak when she doesn't have the heal.
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>>577978761
She should have the heal on kill again, that was literally the only thing that made her viable in the mid and late game
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>play two games
>lose
Okay I'm done for today. At least the fist team was good natured about it enough for me to be up for a second game but sometimes games are so fucking soul crushing I can't play anymore that day.
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Celeste ult in a vaccuum:
>dude just like spread out and it does nothing lol
Celeste ult in practice:
>ball bounces to someone and they have to split off from their team and hide
>they are now isolated and can be ran down and raped
>if they try to kite out or their team tries to help them the ball starts going crazy again
>they can even be displaced into a location where the ball starts bouncing again
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borgor
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>>577979491
>McGinnis player dies from the balls bouncing off her turret nest
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>>577979491
Don't forget
>Zero way to coordinate when you should peel off since it bounces immediately.
>In a team fight there's five other chucklefucks who could be running stun (and Celeste herself even could be with Knockdown)
>Thunder Scroll lmao
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I think the biggest thing this game needs right now is to change the voiceline for the 'no' callout to 'NIGGGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR' so that people actually pay attention to it
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>>577979491
keep your eyes on my balls boys and goyles
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>>577976315
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>>577979491
notice how all of the top performing heroes are ones with insanely busted AoE ults
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How come Paradox 's actual kit has next to nothing to do with time?
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>>577980321
The 4th lane should be temporarily blocked off for the first 10 minutes. For road construction of course. That way no one has to solo.
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>>577980453
They need to add an aoe resist like there's a melee resist
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34 min game btw
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>get pulled in by bebop
>bash them against wall
>punch his stupid metal face in so hard they die
sit down clanker
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When are they going to fix Yamato and give Warden a face
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I am once again begging the average victor player to stop buying torment pulse, extra charge and improved spirit.
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>team basically does retarded shit for 40 minutes straight and ignores everything you say but your initiation combos wind up setting up at least 3-4 people to die and despite their immense feeding you still win
>phantom 3
>ZERO acknowledgment
>ZERO commends
>no one even says 'gg'
I'm so tired of EU games. Fucking zombies.
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>>577981386
>he expected the most miserable people on earth to not be miserable in a game that makes you miserable
The shock.
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>>577981927
like we were getting turbo raped in lane and I have to sit there shotcalling these retards for 40 minutes straight and basically have to suicide to give them kills because they only decide to join after I've done 2000 damage to everyone, they feed at random all the time solo. you'd think they'd at least be happy we won after I carried their asses. just a pack of miserable cunts.
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>>577981386
I had a vyper like that, dude refused to play with the team, ignored all comms, told us to shut the fuck up and he would play the game his way
He carried the game but only because his hero is fucking disgusting and the enemy didn't buy phantom strike.
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>>577981386
These are the same people who get mad at burgers for talking too much or daring to have fun playing a video game.
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>>577982221
Video games are serious business
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I'll deal with the troopers
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I wish creep damage would count towards objective, I want my lane janny toils to be recognized
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Make sinclairs bolts have an aoe explosion.
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>>577982221
All of my favourite team mates are americans btw.
>t. irish
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>>577982550
A proper lane janny needs to push and chip objectives before running away.
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>>577980548
holy shit... this is it... deadlock can be SAVED
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>>577982218
does phantom strike actually do anything against vyper? surely he dashes the same and just presses dispel?
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>>577982705
what if all the walkers are down already
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>>577976315
>Ugly OP
Can we all just agree that we should put McGinnis in all OP's from now on?
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>>577982948
Then push the base guardians to force the enemy team to react and go back.
Or better yet play with your team instead of being a useless fuck. Objectives win games, being a lane janny is not an objective.
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>posts an ugly image
what did he mean by this
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standard matchmaking is HELL
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>>577983454
I like it because I can play like shit with meme builds and don't care about losing.
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Which character is.....
The gay
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ranked matchmaking is HELL
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>>577983652
you
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bvilt for SEXO and that's about it.
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I had a dream i was getting a ton of kills playing Graves and my team started malding at me because I was "playing the game wrong"
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>>577983652
Sinclair
why do you think he hates being paired with a woman so much
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>>577983652
Lash
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>>577983746
Fak
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>a Shahed drone just hit Valve HQ
it's over Steam is done Deadlock is cancelled
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I wish to have an actual discussion about WHY Apollo's ulti not only displaces him, but makes him invincible?
I dont get it, like no other ulti in the game does this aside from Victor and thats his gimmick.
There is literally no Risk vs Reward with Apollo's ulti ONLY reward.
The fuck is Yoshi's balancing.
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>>577983948
well, apollo's gimmick is to be an annoying faggot who gets buffed every patch because the devs genuinely dont know what they're doing.
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>>577983948
>apollo runs up
>he shouts some nonsense ixianbabble
>he dashes through 2 of us
>take 15 damage
>kick him apart once he's done with his gay little pose after
what did he mean by this? is it some sort of backwards ixian custom?
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>>577983771
Graves is a support character
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i havent played in a while
top builds still have lots of punch abrams, but i don't see echo shard in any of them? is it just the shard cooldown nerf?
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Instead of stopping stamina regen for 4 seconds, arctic blast should silence movement abilities for 4 seconds

Instead of doing spirit damage with the active, phantom strike should do a heavy melee hit

Instead of giving melee resist, juggernaut should give debuff resist which scales with current hp starting from 15% resist at max hp to 50% resist at 40% hp

Instead of the current passive of frenzy, it should be an active that lasts 7 seconds. Starts giving you 20% fire rate immediately, and then an additional 20% fire rate every second thereafter for a total of 140% fire rate after 7 seconds. Effect expires 3 seconds after reaching max fire rate and causes you to be hardlocked to 50% of your base fire rate for 5 seconds. 60 second cooldown
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>>577983652
>literally flaming
>try to save his male "friends" bar
>runs around shouting "I'll eat nothing but ass"
hes big zesty
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Steam is a dead nigger baby rn.

>>577982218
I had this vyper but he was a dead nigger baby of a teammate and there was 10 team fights he could have won with his 100k souls but instead we had 40 minutes of watching vyper kill one person then die til defeat.

Vyper needs to be reworked or deleted ASAP because it's the objectively broken hero that autists play while ignoring the team or the rest of the game and depraving everyone of souls.
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>>577984240
This might be true. She already buys Heroic aura.
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>>577984909
>Vyper needs to be reworked or deleted ASAP because it's the objectively broken hero that autists play while ignoring the team or the rest of the game and depraving everyone of souls.
This but Rem
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>>577984712
>Instead of the current passive of frenzy, it should be an active that lasts 7 seconds. Starts giving you 20% fire rate immediately, and then an additional 20% fire rate every second thereafter for a total of 140% fire rate after 7 seconds. Effect expires 3 seconds after reaching max fire rate and causes you to be hardlocked to 50% of your base fire rate for 5 seconds. 60 second cooldown
absolute ass, a waste of both 6.4k and active slot
rest are whatever, nothing offensive and something you wouldn't be surprised seeing in next patch notes
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FINE, I guess I'll go play HotS instead
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>steam is still down
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>>577983780
I think sinclair just hates women, which is a fair position
>>577983816
>Lash
Highly probably homo. I see no contrary evidence.
>>577984806
Superb reasoning, I would not have brought this one up.
Good work rounding them up, officers.
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>warden at 40%
>his ult is up
>we have rejuv
>i'm rem
>with healing nova
>"shit hold on I need to go fuckin heal"
>zipline boosts away immediately
what the fuck
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>>577983780
>Both Sinclairs have the same voice actor
Sinclair is single dude with split personality who was never married in the first place. Savannah is his drag queen persona.
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>>577985220
are you for real? post statlocker
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>>577985553
should have clicked your buttons
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YOSHI BUFF HER YOU FUCKING USELESS ARAB NIGGER.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlDqK6r2GHo
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>>577985658
can't do shit if courage the cowardly dog breaks away from the fight to hide out of los
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>>577985685
She's S+++ tier though.
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Has the quality of ranked matches gone down past week or am I crazy?
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>>577986015
it's unbelievably dogshit
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>>577985653
at least give it fury trance/fleetfoot's shooting penalty removal or keep frenzy's +4 movement speed
otherwise only wraith can use it without having to invest into multiple other items
would be funny as shit on gun talon though, i'll give you that
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>ascendant before rank changes
>urn is changed to koth shitfest
>stop playing the game
>come back last week
>rank into emissary 5 after calibration
>mfw
did the urn changes make people forget how to play the map or something? new urn is ignored, rift is often given up for free in situations where it should be fought due to comeback, walkers arent pushed when theyre free, etc. I feel like im going insane, people used to be on top of this shit
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this game is done. EOS soon
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Why is this gay ass matchmaking so fucking rigged I hate Valve
This shit was bad in CS and Dota and It's even worse here
>Forced 50% and filling up teams with mouthbreathing troglodytes vs pack of highly coordinated predators it's so fucking obvious when it wants me to lose
>You won your lane 10/0? Tough luck your 2 other lanes have 0/12 feeders in 7 minutes so now you have to play a game you lost for 50 minutes because there's no stopping snowballing niggers
>Noone buys any counters on your team, enemy team has every fucking counter item imaginable for any situation
>Constant fucking rushing Urn when enemy already pushed your lanes practically playing delivery for the enemy team
>FUCKING URN every fucking time, your tower's being pushed? SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD TIME TO CARRY THE URN
>Teamfight happening? THEY WON'T NOTICE IF I SNEAK AN URN WHILE MY TEAM GETS FUCKED BECAUSE OF THEIR LACK OF NUMBERS
It'S iN TeStInG
The only thing they're testing is how much bullshit games you can play before quitting at this point
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>>577986251
>no statlocker
Never give your opinion on things again seekerbro
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>>577985685
um shes good though ok who cares about winrate shes good because some random tranny said so you should watch her tier list ok dont you have hands
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How do I get the other stats up?
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>>577986015
as someone who stands leagues above the rest of you in terms of skill, a seekerGOD, yes, it's gotten worse
I had hoped it would settle down but the problem of it being a mix of turbobricks and climbing to phantom rapists is still very much a problem, and from the sound of things all the other ranks are exactly the same somehow, it's whose line
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>>577986263
Current Emissary 5 is old oracle 6 according to https://statlocker.gg/rank-distribution. So yes you're playing with retards.
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>>577986387
surely the next patch will fix this...
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>person audibly says rift then mid in 20
>do rift
>mid spawns
>said person immediately goes in 1v6 and suicides for nothing
HOW HARD IS IT TO USE YOUR BRAIN I DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND
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>>577985685
>silver video
>doesnt show lycan curse once
?????
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https://files.catbox.moe/5afscl.mp4
Characters for this feel?
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Looks like I chose a good time to stop playing
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>>577986786
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>>577986786
Typical Silver player
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>>577986786
Any troonment hero
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>>577986387
the game doesnt teach you anything so half the playerbase is noobs and the other half is tryhards
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>>577986387
It more of a community problem than ranks or matchmaking, from the posts here and other places I’ve read this exact same shit happens at every single rank, just at higher rank the person suicidally running into a 1v6 or running urn at terrible times is doing it much more stylishly while playing their keyboard like a piano.
Real question is how do you get a large percentage of the playerbase to unlearn their bad habits? That tutorial is hot trash and most streamers/youtubers have their heads up their own asses giving bad advice
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>>577981386
>nooooo where's my heckin commends :(
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>>577986387
My biggest problem is my teammates coming to the rift/teamfight AFTER fight is lost
We can be holding out rift 2vs4, eventually dying and rest of the team will come after rift is gone
Like what's the point you coming here? You are just gonna die
Sometimes I wish I knew what these people are thinking
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>>577987468
Real question do commends even do anything or are they just star stickers that give you a tiny dose of dopamine for doing a good job?
I really like getting commends from the enemy team after a drawn out even match but then I usually forget about it like 3 minutes later
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>>577981386
I only commend salty niggas, so maybe they feel a little bit better
Or seethe more, works for me either way
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>Teammate whining at me for going 0/10
>Retard actually expects me to try on my designated loss match
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>>577987674
purely cosmetic
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>>577987674
its like a firm handshake and acknowledgement that the game was good.
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>>577986104
>>577986642
But why?
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If your not trying your hardest every game then you wont climb.
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Paige look like the secretary for Mystery Inc
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>>577987630
>hyperfed Drifter teammate shows up at the end of every big teamfight to kill whosever left
>still lose since he couldn’t have possibly defended all 3 lanes by himself
it is what it is I guess, wish the guy 20k ahead was actually there during the start of fights instead of emptying their jungle but eh
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>>577988030
>teammate shows up at the end of every big teamfight to kill whosever left
I wish it was like this, but I have seen countless of times people just diving 4 people with not even half HP at the end of the 2vs4 "teamfight"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64eJP7LZkpQ

Ok so people finally woke up about Celeste being dogshit to play against. Basically the problem is that she farms really well and gets a billion free damage amp from her 3, and then you can just win the game by ulting any of the mid or rift fights. Her ult is basically impossible to play against in confined spaces, you'd have to isolate so far and for so much time that she's basically removing someone from the fight entirely by uilting them, and because the ball bounces instantly realistically you can't even do that, it just forces the enemy team to scatter randomly and lose any given fight, and that's on top of the rest of her entire kit. Her only weakness is that she's shit at laning but the secret is just buying egg and not feeding, then you can actually start playing by popping the egg at 10 and fghting the first rift
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Phantom has become such a shitshow why is someone with a negative win rate the same rank as me at Phantom 5? these rank protections are genuinely retarded a nigger can grind 200 matches with negative winrate and hit Phantom 6 while someone else gets there in 40 games what kind of bullshit system is this?
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>>577988296
yup, nerf that troon
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>>577987771
Ah, bit of a shame, seems like if you had enough commends on a character you should get a extra chances to actually play as them
>>577987807
That’s nice, I do give them out when I notice a guy trying his heart out, just so many people give them for free it feels like they lose a bit of meaning after awhile, had a brawl go for 30 minutes on round three while a Apollo was 1v4ing, crazy bastard somehow ended up with 80k damage done, wish I could give him a super commend or something watching him fight through that was amazing
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>>577988296
>she's shit at laning but the secret is just buying egg and not feeding, then you can actually start playing by popping the egg at 10
I was wondering about this. She really does have a shitty lane.
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>>577988453
I meant round 5
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>>577988296
does counterspell delete her ult or just one bounce of it?
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>>577985685
ive seen this faggot in queue and every time my teammates universally make fun of him for how bad he is and he's the worst player in the lobby every time and here some shitlow retard is shilling him like anyone should take his word for anything lmao
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>>577988286
>dead
>their team takes a undefended Walker
>teammate Doorman thats been nonexistent shows up
>kidnaps their top player into a broom closet
>kills their hyper fed carry 10k ahead of him
>escapes 4 people
>disappears back to farming and doesn’t clean up any lanes
I don’t understand
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>>577988296
Celeste's ult design comes from Dota's Lich ult, in other words it's balanced around top down view where it's much easier to position yourself and spread than in a 3rd person view game like Deadlock.
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>>577989185
Is that you Metro?
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Can y'all be nice
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>>577988296
shes just Seven but with troonment instead of a stun
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>>577990180
I want to rape paradox so bad
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>>577990180
>y'all
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>>577990496
Waill? Caint ya? Be a lil kindah twoards wun anotha?? Or nah?
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why do my teammates not look the map?
why must they torment me?
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>>577989425
>Celeste's ult design comes from Dota's Lich ult
A lot of the problems I have with the game's design stems from this
Motherfuckers take DOTA design and paste it in a 3rd person shooter
Take weapon ranges for example, what kind of a retard gives Graves 15m weapon range and expects them to shoot down people flying away on a zipline, that mechanic might aswell not exist for her
Meanwhile Vindicta shoots people down from other side of the continent zooming into a tiny hole with a single hit, make it make sense.
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>>577990469
That's super not nice bro
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>>577986786
Shiv.
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>>577990076
no lol god forbid you get this nigga on your team
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I get the feeling one of these new characters someday is gonna be some hyper technical Dante motherfucker that is either going to be complete throw pick or folds you straight in half depending on player and I dread that day
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>>577991171
EOS before then I fear
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>>577991171
i dont even know how you'd do a character that technical over network but i'd be all for it.
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What am I supposed to do here?
https://files.catbox.moe/e2eutp.mp4
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>>577991469
oO-OHH MY P--CCC
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>>577991469
Pick a hero that's not worthless dogshit
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>>577991324
They already showed they’re okay with having a completely different abilityset with Silver so what if they don’t have a ult? They just swap to their other set of abilities as a 4, fucker doesn’t have a pocket nuke or a instant “fuck you” option he just has options period
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>miss 2/3 of your slam fire so your transform is completely cucked
>backing away for the 3rd bulet so it does even less damage so you are even less likely to get to your transform
>zero consideration that lash might want to throw the enemies as far into your side of the map as possible so you eat shit and die
i think i figured out why silver posters spam about how le weak she is
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>>577991469
Played around the lash BVLL better
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>>577991958
>miss cooldowns
>do nothing
woah
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>>577983948
It's the easiest ults to counter in the game though
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>First game of the day: Team feeds non stop
>Second game of the day: Winning before one of my teammates abandons and the game doesn't count anymore.
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>>577991958
Its hard to hit people with Silvers shit gun. Why dont you try it and let us know how it goes?
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>>577991469
Outskilled
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>>577991958
I'd like to see you do better.
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>>577983948
Just let him hit you and counterspell the pop retard.
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>>577991469
Well, for a start, hit your shit
For a second, nothing except maybe recognize the lash has fucked up and run away instead
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>>577991958
I can tell you've never played Silver
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that got xhem riled up kekw
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>>577993039
Did you forget to reply to someone? I understand that it's might be hard for you since you're new, but you should try using the reply function as it makes communication much easier.
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Seven was a dom bottom, Kelvin submissive top
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>>577992009
lash? a bull? I'm pretty sure he's a powerbottom
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>>577993613
Fax
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>>577993613
lash is lashsexual tho
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>>577993920
true, he like, fucks himself with a dildo replica of his own cock
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>>577988296
>she's shit at laning
is that even really true? sure her waveclear isn't phenomenal or anything but between her lifesteal, shield, and common buys like rad regen/healing booster, she comes out on top in so many trades, plus her shmoovement lets her take box routes real quick between waves. do i just fight people who suck ass at laning?
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>>577990496
>He thinks black people invented the phrase "ya'll"
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>>577994736
A smart player isn't going to trade with light eater and they're going to manage their stamina in a way that lets them completely disengage from you when you land it on them
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>20 minute match
we waited 2 years for matchmaking like this btw
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>>577994902
post items and let me try to guess what character
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>>577986015
bro its fucking abysmal
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>>577995003
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>>577991958
the retard didnt even consume the boot kick mark either hes only 25% of the way to transforming after using all his abilities
ive been saying this forever, every silver downplayer is just a shitter who can't land abilities
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>>577995085
based carpetchads dabbing on tryhardsissies
they got the moral victory in the end
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I look like shiv
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>>>/v/745632349
does the invite thing actually filter some retards from joining?
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Start building magic carpet on graves.
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>>577991958
>you have to play absolutely perfect to get a character to not be complete dogshit
woah
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>>577995085
I think the only one im capable of guessing is the first person on amber and it's either wraith or seven.
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>>577995085
third on amber, calico?
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>>577992301
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Does Natan not have a twitter? I like his cheatsheets
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>>577995246
>whiff over half your combo
>"what was i supposed to do here"
>WTF DO YOU MEAN I SHOULD HAVE LANDED MY COMBO NO OTHER HERO IN THE GAME PERFORMS DRASTICALLY WORSE WHEN YOU MISS OVER HALF YOUR DAMAGE IN ABILITIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>the basic expectation of landing your ability combo is "you have to play perfectly"
people have scrutinized webms on other heroes for far less jesus christ just change games timmy this one ain't for you
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IF YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD MOVEMENT DON'T PLAY A MOVEMENT HERO
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>player fails to connect
>have to queue all over again
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>>577995894
Even if he hit everything it wouldn't have made a difference.
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STOP PUTTING ME IN THE CUBE
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>>577996243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGDCE6Nrz0
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I appreciate shitting on dumb silvers but I think the actual question was more along the lines of
>what do I do when my lash drops an exploding infernus on me
the answer to this question is actually very simple, you call him a nigger in all chat
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>climbing with 33% wr
worst update of all time?
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>>577996403
I made it to master in sf6 with ~40% winrate and thought that was the most dogshit ranked system, but I guess not
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>>577996958
sf6 is a solo game right? so i guess it doesnt matter that much, you can't ruin the game for teammates
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I don't get why everybody in this community is so obsesed with pushing the lane. Just freeze the wave and farm easy souls forever.
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>>577997404
good strat only if you have someone else taking the jungle while you stand there
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>>577997404
if you over freeze you lose your jungle and you arent exerting any map pressure
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>>577997652
>>577997773
Lane creeps give more than the jungle.
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thats my big sister!
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>>577997848
wow amazing almost if you'll get the most souls pushing waves and then doing jungle
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>>577998229
Except you'll miss all of the lane creeps while jungling.
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From here, only misery will follow.
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when you shove the wave you have until the next wave appears on the lane to do whatever you want and jungling is included in "whatever you want" kill yourself shitlow retard not even worth giving a (You) to
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Just Majestic leap across the map to keep all lanes pushed
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What am I supposed to do here?
https://files.catbox.moe/b8kmdp.mp4
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>>577998508
>33 minutes in pushing walker like it's the early game
Idk not be a fucking imbecile?
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>>577998508
Build good items
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>>577998508
Die.
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>>577998508
>no gun spike
>doesnt use counterspell to heal/block damage
>knockdown (i guess for mina ult?)
>transcooldown for 1 active isntead of just selling a t1 item and buying spirit res
brother delete this
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What is my role as Ivy? I have no idea what I'm supposed to aim for.
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>>577999020
the goal is to pick up your carry and dunk him into the enemy spawn
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>>577998508
>gun billy instead of spirit billy
Huh?
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>>577999020
pick up your squshy m1 and throw them into the middle of the enemy team jajajajajajajajja
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>>577999134
>spirit billy
who's going to tell him
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>>577986015
>All the good players climbing rapidly and leaving the shitters behind
>Shitters stuck in the same rank
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>>577998508
could have tried more clever pathing with rising ram to get onto the roofs, with only kelvin able to hit you for a while you could buy time time to get a second one off and maybe survive but also just look at the minimap
>2 teammates already visible fighting mina on green
>blue about to crash so the enemy team knows at least one of your team will have to go clear the wave on blue
>you are the only wave with prio knocking against yellow with 5 enemies off the map
it's also just incredibly common that teams will look for a trade-pick on the opposite sidelane if they can't make it to their teammate who is currently getting jumped which would be mina in this clip

>>577998776
>3200 + 800 + 800
>no gun spike
bro...
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its actually really funny how the hero that requires the least amount of skill (Graves) is still too hard for 90% of the people who play her. you don't even have to aim and people still fuck it up
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>>577999405
oops didnt see the monster rounds
ok i will change that criticsm to didn't use blasted
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>>577996958
but what MR are you
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>>577999512
>the hero that requires the least amount of skill
that's wraith though
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wraith needs to be nerfed earlygame OR be nerfed lategame. why is she good everys tage of the game and can instakill with 4 jokers even if shes behind souls in a 1v1
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>>577999020
https://files.catbox.moe/r0ybjg.mp4
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>>577999540
>>577998508
thats true blasted also gives you movement speed
i really think rooftop routing with ram + bashdown would have gotten him out though, something like webm related and you drop yourself down to here or the bridge buff vent/subway
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>>577999020
buy trophy hunter, tesla (optionally on spirit damage debuff items), healing tempo, counter items, echo shard
either split push and use ult to fly to big fights or babysit your retarded carry and swoop them to safety whenever they're in over their head
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>streak ruined by a game where the other two lanes ate pavement
it feels so much worse when I drop a streak now because the little flame goes away
thanks icefrog
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>>577999405
I was going to run through the jungle creep room but Paige rescue beamed and ate all my movement.

>>578000348
Oh this is helpful, but how do you deal with Paige rescue beaming you and getting you stuck and eating all your acceleration?
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>>578000747
call them a nigger and afk the rest of the game is usually what i do
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>>577999565
I.didn't play after reaching masters, the game pissed me off too much, so I'll never know my real mr. But it's irrelevant to my point, you should not be able to rank up with a sub-50% winrate, let alone reach master.
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>>578000747
i think with the routing and wave state in that webm you were dead with or without the rescue beam is the thing, nobody else is there except paige
i would rather my supports try to rescue beam me every single time rather than hold off on the 10% chance that it fucks up like what happened to you but that's just me
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>>577999693
wraith is braindead but at least you have to aim
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>>577999020
You start off gun carry and end as support, rush capacitor and once you have it you are peak power, after that the fall off is real so just buy support stuff
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why do we pretend like half the roster is so weak they're throw picks when they're actually strong
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>>578001723
its easier for shitters to say their main is a throw pick than admit they're actually just bad at the hero/the game
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when i see the videos on /pol/ of white women getting beat up by black women my brain automatically dubs in the calico voice lines
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>>578001723

The spread is like 10%, even on the worst hero you are probably swinging more than 10% just based off what you ate for breakfast
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>>577996403
>climbing
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Deadlock shouldn't have been a shooter game.
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>spirit nuke hero
>best build is actually building gun
>support hero
>spirit nuke build viable
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yup I'm thinking I'm going to main Geist
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>>578002413
So Dota 3?
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>>578002638
>support hero
>the actual best build is gun
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>>577999020
healer + cc
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Bring back the meat Walkers.
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>>578003181
so glad they're spending so much time and effort on pve instead of just making new characters
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>>578003302
pve is fake and gay
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>renon removed soloQ only from his titles because he abuses duo q like every other "high skill player"
kek
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>>577986786
Wraith is the character you would want to main.
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>>578003181
Wasn't there some leaked piece of concept art that showed walker models being replaced by three-headed bulls?
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Being high rank really is just being a meta slave huh
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>>578004046
they were confirmed by data leaks but considering that they didn't end up in OGNB when they leaked before the new patrons they probably got scrapped
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>>578004232
she's fun and she's pretty i wish she just wasn't seen as meta slop
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>>578004263
I love it when they scrap things, makes me real hopeful this game will get released this century!
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>>578004232
they're also 10 times better than you at the game while being a meta slave you kind of need both
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>>578004232
>Figuring Out What Happened Last Night in the Hideout
QoL or based Silver player call it.
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I'm addicted to this chud game :(
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>heavy melee cancel by some abilities and items
how has this not been patched out by now?
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Let's do a thought exercise:

A company, which I won't name specifically, has scrapped their last 2 games. The company is also known for abandoning work on existing profitable games.

This company is now working on a new game, but they haven't updated the new game with any content for 7 months.

Would you say they are going to release this new game or will it be scrapped and abandoned like the majority of this company's games?
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>>578004623
They patched it out of most abilities and the rest that remain are intentional because the melee build community says they're skill expression
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>>578004639
strange hypothetical, did you get lost on your way to /tf2g/? it seems to be off topic
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celeste is so fun
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>hero is overpowered
>nothing happens
>hero is suddenly b tier
>nothing happens
>hero is overpowered again
this happens literally every month
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>>578005307
I noticed there's a lot of hands depicted on item icons. Is valve trying to tell us something?
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>>577988601
>the secret is just buying egg
not really
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>>578005594
this is because of the streamer based balancing system btw. is a streamer complaining about a hero? they get nerfed. is a streamer crying their main is too weak? they get buffed. if a streamer is not talking about a hero nothing changes until they do
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What characters are certified egg buyers? Victor, Graves?
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>>578005983
abrams
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>>578005950
deathy isn't even that good at the game he's boosted as fuck compared to literally any other top eternus streamer
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>>578004425
>Wanted to pick up new hero
>celeste seems like fun
>suddenly Celeste is in the news and her pick rate goes to 99% so I cant play her
Fuck me. Yoshi, release more heroes already.
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>>578005594
i hope you're not talking about celeste because she got buffed a million times and spirit mcginnis being nerfed also makes her stronger
there isn't much "nothing happens" if you paid any attention
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are you ready for the content update in 2 months?
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>>578006762
Item update?
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>>577998508
realize you guys overcommitted on a stupid push ngl
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>>578006803
here's your item update bro. enjoy. that'll be 5 dollars per loot box btw
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>>578006803
no item balance changes in last patch
item update end of august
trust the plan
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>>577986786
pocket unironically.
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There won't be an update without a Yoshi Discord message announcing the rough date two weeks ahead of time so if you think it's still in August you're delusional
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why does everyone pretend like drifter is an m1 carry when his gun's viability relies entirely on the enemy team being retarded
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>>578004232
>Played for a while
>Barely anything changed
>Faggots start to complain out of nowhere
She's going to be nerfed isn't she.
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>>578007887
Undeserved nerfs, just like Ivy and Mcginnis, while Wraith never gets nerfed.
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i think they need to buff celeste, actually. her auto aim should actually be auto aim.
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>>578006728
no I'm talking about wraith atm. or that time with victor. or shiv. etc. you notice these things when you've been here long enough
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>>578007129
that's not what AI says, and AI is what they use to make the patches
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>>578009149
>Serial rapist female lesbian/yuri vampire
Yawn
>Serial rapist straight female vampire
Oh hell yeah
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>>578008627
then you've lost me even harder because indirect buffs/nerfs and meta shifts are responsible for those 3 heroes as well
victor had his spirit nerfed and gun buffed a million times
wraith rose to the top because they raped a bunch of the other m1 options
shiv got a power redistribution that made some parts weaker and some stronger but then they undid the main "nerf" he got which made him broken, then they nerfed him more, now he isn't considered strong because he doesn't fit into the meta as well as before

i can't see where the "nothing happens" part fits into these equations
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>>577976525
out of all of the men in deadlock you choose the highschool boy
kill yourself.
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>>577979491
>buy eshift
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>>578001723
Because I am a Silver shitter and call my hero shit instead of myself
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is witchmail goated on spirit abrams? I've been building it instead of cooldown reduction and its felt really good the past 3 games. Should most of your item build come from upgrades? Its the general guideline I've been following while messing around with item builds.
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Literally every Deadlock girl except Vyper has a jungle

It's the 40s
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>>577991469
>open video
>land 2
>no turn towards tower
>no follow up 3
>whiffed 1
>no backstabber
>close video
you're making us look bad, bro...
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>>578002413
Deadlock shouldve been a sex game
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>>578012197
it's a rape game
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I am an unrepentant incel chud who only plays Warden, because I perceive him to be chud-coded. Should I pick up Apollo or Lash next?
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>>578013142
>Apollo is for fags that like dicks - rapier is a phallic symbol - gay
>Lash hates bebop - bebop is a nigger - lash hates niggers - based
>Warden is a moralfag that hates patrons - hates money and power - works at mcdonalds between games - loser
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>>578012197
There's no consent in Deadlock.
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>>578013784
t. raped and gaped by apollochads
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>>578013142
Venator is actually chud-coded so pick him up next
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what are the chances they rework the standard matchmaker
half the time i feel like i'm playing with new players
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>>578014396
>what are the chances they rework the standard matchmaker
they literally just did. this IS the reworked standard.
they made it worse and put the old matchmaking (tolerable at best) into ranked.
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>>578014396
you literally are playing with new players. turn on voice and tell them what to do
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Who do I play for the undisputed absolute most agency as a solo queue player?
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>>578010809
he's 18
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>>578014362
venator is bad though
also he doesn't want sex with mina so he can't be a chud
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>>578014571
Celeste
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>>578014594
kill yourself!!!
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>>578014809
There's another conversation saying he's 18, both him and Graves are at the end of their last year of high school.
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>>578014809
infernus doesn't hang out with blackmore kids, but he certainly does shove his dick down their throats
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>>578014528
old matchmaking had people like my friend who plays completely random characters, and I can hear him mutter to himself as he reads what abilities do. he's locked out of ranked because he mains nothing.
ranked, on the other hand, has people who have met the requirements, 15 wins per character, and 60 games total, and still somehow play worse than him. and they're all on my team
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>>578014964
cite your sources, I cited mine.
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I want to explore Silver's tropical rainforest
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>>578015046
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/conversations/b3726e81331423e6548981fc5fa9d4a2/
I can't upload images on /vg/.
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I like to imagine it's Silver singing Choosin' Texas by Ella Langley every time I hear it on the radio
:3c
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>>578014571
Celeste with I would say probably like Wraith or Warden second depending on your playstyle.
Another good option if you're ACTUALLY good you can go gun lash if you like the movement of celeste but would prefer another kit. Gun lash has a sort of similar gameplan and if you're good at the game you can just run down lobbies but this requires real genuine aimhacks
Seven and Victor are also decent picks but you genuinely need a team to do you a solid as you accumulate power but sometimes the enemy will throw so hard you can hit your 20k-40k powerspike like 20 minutes before you normally should have.
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>>578015089
It's not tropical. Silver's forest is a scary alpine place. Snowy white
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>>578015191
alright, I concede.
goon in peace.
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>>578015303
It's way too humid for that to be the case
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>>578014571
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>>578015740
Drifter is not that good
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I'm starting to think this game has some incredibly sadistic, cutting-edge matchmaking algorithm that singles out certain players and makes the game hell for them. I literally get paired with bad teammates in about 9/10 of my games and that's no exaggeration. If we win I have to carry them to victory by the skin of my teeth, and if we lose we get absolutely steamrolled and my teammates start arguing halfway through the match. I wouldn't mind having matches like that if I also got a healthy dose of matches where I get to steamroll a team full of shitters, but I virtually NEVER get a game like that. Maybe one out of every 12, at most. What are the odds? I got sent to low prio matchmaking for abandoning two games and I think this nuked some sort of invisible social credit score.
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>>578010794
>hero exists
>is not considered op by the community
>no changes or irrelevant changes
>hero is now considered op by the community
for example:
>wraith is b tier
>literally nothing changes except minor NERF to full auto
>wraith is OP elo potion
how is this so hard for you to understand which part is confusing you? please tell me how nerfing haze makes wraith suddenly broken, not just a better pick, but completely overpowered
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>>577986786
Mina
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>>578016272
>>wraith is b tier
literally just straight up lying by retarded ecelebs that entire time.
character has been fucking busted since her mini rework.
the fact she can just hoard 3 cards early game and fucking nuke you when you try to interact with the "weak early game m1" is RETARDED.
god forbid one or even two of them are jokers/hearts.
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>left lane has 9 deaths in 5 minutes
should automatically end the game right there honestly. give me the loss too hell drop me a rank I don't care I just don't want to spend another 30 minutes getting absolutely stomped
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if you are in ranked turn on vc
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>>578016531
Had a game the other day when right lane had like 14 deaths 10 minutes in and were arguing constantly
>you aren't even human
>stfu russian bot
etc. We won

Honestly a lot of my ranked games have been comeback wins. FF fags should just stop playing
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splitshot apollo.
think about it.
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>>578015906
The lobby is populated by all the same retards on your team. If you don't believe me, just download the replay from any of your games and watch it from the pov of any of the 6 morons opposing you and watch in amazement as The Avengers vanish and are replaced by a half-dozen bumbling retards who can barely play their hero.
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So the only way to win consistently in soloq is to steal all enemy farm?
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>>578017529
yep
it's double value because you get gold
and they don't get gold
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>>578017529
Stealing enemy resources is worth 2x their stated value thats why they go into the unsecured souls bag for a bit.
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>>578017057
I've seen it happen too but wasn't going to happen when they fed the carries this early
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>>578015906
Yeah, they made it so gays get worse matchmaking.
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>>578015740
Doorman can be a solo queue demon if you scream out where every door is and your team actually listens
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>>578004232
I mean i've been telling you guys that there's a celeste on literally every single ranked match for the past 3 days and you said i was crazy. People playing this game are just too lame man, they'll jump to the newest "free easy wins" hero at the drop of a hat
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>>578018308
>demon
>needs people to work
so silver is a hyper-demon because she needs people to even exist?
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>>578018410
>"Solo" queue
>I am, in fact, playing the game with 5 other people
Wtf bros
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>>578018340
>everyone ITT is one person or me
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>>578018487
Yeah
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>>578017529
Anon the entirety of human warfare is about stealing enemy resources and depriving them into defeat.
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They should make you pass a written exam on The Art of War before you're allowed to queue ranked.
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Buff The Cube - Sun Tzu
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>>578018308
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I'M FULL OF SOULS HERE PEOPLE
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I thought I had this under control...
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>>578019235
fug looks im gong for the runs :DDDDDD
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>>578019135
Just admit you're bad at Doorman it's fine.
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>>578014809
infernus the race traitor anchor baby
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R u gonna agully drob me of or juz run around New Yorg :DDDD
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pretty cool how valve rewards "good behavior" and then adds voicelines and player interactions specifically to tilt people in both deadlock and dota that you can't mute
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>>578020841
good behaviour only matters in regions with trannies and niggers
they're the only ones getting upset
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thank you yoshi really cool teammate i got that rages while being 3/15 very coooooooooool
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>>578020841
This reminds me a game I played some months ago. I was playing with Mo and Krill (the character I used when I want to chill) and I got kinda owned in lane against a Billy/Paige combo. The Billy coulnd't stop teabagging and writing "??" in chat. I got tilted, ngl and I wanted to call the Billy a cocksucker. But I did not, instead I wrote "Whats your favourit kind of milkshake?" "Mine is strawberry." And for some fucking reason from that point onward something happened and I ended up killing/help kill that Billy like 12-15 times.
My point is. Ways to tilt and bait people that are not saying nigger 15 times are kinda fun.
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The Patrons wont mind if I put my cock on the scale a little..
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>>578021521
how is he gaining pp then sweaty? he's actually carrying you according to our ai algorithm buddy!
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So, update today for the 6 hero update anniversary? Unlikely IMO, considering its TI week
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>>578021880
unironically how is he
i need the statlocker here
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>insane amount of HP investment + colossus on Silver
>vs
>lash with 4.8k
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>>578014964
>kid
>18
do you know what a young adult is?
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>>578021903
They aren't patching the game until September and the actual content update is in October, when the ranked season ends.
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Valve should add a cute white vampire to this game as a playable hero.
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>>578022191
Are you ESL
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>>578016728
but I'm shy...
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>>578022197
I think its plausible that we get the "item update", whatever it entails, before the ranked season ends
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bebop and apollo to oracle
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>get frustrated with my team playing aimlessly
>start IGLing over voice, despite the fact that I hate my voice
>we turn things around and win
>girl gamer ivy player says her first thing all match: "good comms!"

heh, see you later, virgins
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>>578022584
no one will care about your rank ups unless you post wr too
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>>578022313
Valve isnt trying to appeal to pedophiles.
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>>578021521
>>578021880
Considering he's 12th and has an E rating in both games then it probably means the algorithm thinks he sucks, at least on Drifter, so doing basically anything is increasing it.
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had a few games today wearing a diaper while playing diaper rem
hehe
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>>578023695
what the hell is a diaper rem
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>>578023695
dropping bags while dropping turds lmao
i'd need diapers too if i got my shit pushed in that much
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Don't let celeste being in the spotlight distract you from pocket being first pick and ban with an uninteractable kit
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>>578023872
https://gamebanana.com/mods/684486
it was a mod but i guess fucking CHUDS reported it
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>>578022191
I've been watching Sopranos, famously positioned like ten minutes away form nu yawk, and people in their thirties get called 'kid' there on occasion. It's a term of vague endearment and belittlement suggesting the speaker is older than whoever he is talking about.

In this case, Infernus is calling Apollo a kid from Blackmore because schools to say that he is young, an idiot, from school, and is immature and overall young. Apollo is still 18, Celeste says that. So he is a legal adult while in perception of actual, if not funcional, adults like Infernus and Silver, is kind of a child.
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>>578024161
oh, my bad, I thought it was a name for some build
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>>578015906
I am starting to suspect there's some sort of in-rank matchmaking tiers based on your hero and the stats you have for that hero. I try to main Celeste, do not great on her, and get absurdly dumpstering matchups; teams typically suck, even if I do well, the enemy team tends to perform well. As a result of all that plus me being shit at her often, I end up with a total winrate of like 45% over time.
I hop on Mina once, then just pure Vindicta, I get in that same ranked queue, and the enemy team ends up vaguely on our level or bumbling, and I'm now on a five-win winstreak. As a result, I got like a 60% winrate on Vinny overall.

Before the ranked update it felt the same way; awful matchmaking on the horse, okay matchmaking on Vindicta.

A part of it has to be that Celeste necessarily has to get closer, and I am not great at survival up-close, and Vindicta by comparison compels you to stay away, so I live longer, have greater impact and so on. But surely games can't be so massively different only because I die like a retard less.
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Heroes i want in the game:
>An actual backline artillery type caster but with pure damage focus rather than kind of support like Paige, maybe a kit that really rewards you for being on top of buildings
>A pure M1 focused hero with a shotgun
>A hero with a slow-firing bolt-action rifle that can dish out a lot of single-shot damage, make it sluggish like Silver's weapon but with great damage and accuracy (honestly should be how vindicta's gun works)
>A hero who can rocket jump
>A hero who straight up just has a fucking car and can give a ride to other heroes
>A hero who can swap his gun, completely changing how his M1 behaves at will
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is escalating worth it on ghoul graves? or should i pick mystic reverb instead?
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>>578005983
Celeste kind of. 10% isn't a massive amount of damage since she anyways doesn't do a whole lot and early on you're not worth much in a figt, and most builds don't have space for an ammo item on her, while you kind of benefit from having more boolets. The buffs give you that.
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>>578024593
>>An actual backline artillery type caster but with pure damage focus rather than kind of support like Paige, maybe a kit that really rewards you for being on top of buildings
This would be cool, you can already get a taste of this with Viscous' splatter, there's some ridiculous line ups you can get with it.
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>>578024593
>>An actual backline artillery type caster but with pure damage focus rather than kind of support like Paige, maybe a kit that really rewards you for being on top of buildings
This is Sinclair
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>>578004639
The new rift mechanic is content. Generally, if Valve releases like six new heroes a year, that's more than Overwatch and Rivals get.
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>>578024593
>An actual backline artillery type caster but with pure damage focus rather than kind of support like Paige, maybe a kit that really rewards you for being on top of buildings
That's literally Sinclair
>A hero with a slow-firing bolt-action rifle that can dish out a lot of single-shot damage, make it sluggish like Silver's weapon but with great damage and accuracy (honestly should be how vindicta's gun works)
Will never happen because sounds like a nightmare to last hit with
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I would get rid of ranked if it means standard stops being the shitfest it is right now.
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>>578024812
sinclair's retarded bolt is best parallel to the ground, like a roomba.
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>>578024812
>>578024843
I mean that is fair, but because Sinclair has ult steal he can't 100% commit to the bit. I want a hero who dominates rooftops

>>578024843
If you can last-hit with Silver shotgun, which admitedly is not great, you should be able to last hit with a rifle version of it that is pinpoint accurate
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>>578024970
>bro standard is so bad remove ranked so no mode is good quality games
okay
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>>578024593
>>A pure M1 focused hero with a shotgun
We had that with slork/fathom and they removed him.
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>>578024842
rivals is 1 per month
HOWEVER the game needs to start with a lot more characters otherwise you just get games with perma seven/wraith and everyone else just praying their m1 carry can carry at 30 mins
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>>578023284
and who do you think Rem and Graves are for?
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>>578025932
sadomasochists who want their team to lose
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>>578025932
Jews.
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>>578025915
Its also just genuinely a LOT easier to design heroes for Rivals. The game is very rigid in its gameplay structure and every single design is top-down because they're adapting pre-existing characters. Deadlock has a lot more things it has to take into account with every character, and the lack of a rigid role structure makes each character much more unique and thus more difficult to make work.
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>>578025932
Well, I can't argue with that.
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No clue how i won this, but 53k heal through lifesteal is something
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>>578026568
when you lifesteam with kudzu link up you also heal the other person
not too difficult with 2 premium lifesteal items and lmaoinfiniterounds
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>>578026568
>rngbrawl
nobody fucking cares about this dogshit casino mode screenshot
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>>578026695
Ye, but that much? Note that i roled vampirit in last round where there was the least amount of fight going on
So the entire heal really ONLY was the link and i maxed it last
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>>578026797
you get lifesteal baseline with kudzu, you don't even need to put points into it, your items were just a force multiplier
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>>578026187
>lack of rigid role structure
aka me go punch sinclair :3
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this game is so fucking buggy apparently bebop hook fully applies lifestrike and snatch as a heavy but doesnt apply melee charge
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Haven't checked the 'lock in three weeks. Any new leeks ? And I'm not talking about the GTA6 ones...
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can someone rec a billy build that uses ballistic enhancement? i really like this item on bashdown.
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Retards will see a game where the enemy team is up 60k and just grab the rejuvinator and say "we can't add a forfeit button, the game is still winnable"
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>>578028076
to be fair one big ass dynamo ult can in fact swing a game even with 60k behind
>but that'll never happen in [MY ELO]
it happens in fucking DNS
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>>578028152
And if Dynamo isn't on my team?
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>>578025932
Graves is 18, pedotourist
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>>578028184
lash, sinclair, para with maxed swap, pocket
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>>577976315
Deadcock
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>>578027589
it literally doesn't
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YUR DED
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I'm unironically bricklo
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Got banned from a twitch stream for implying graves is attractive
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>>577982773
Sorry for the late reply but its mostly just a frontliner with phantom strike that cucks her.
Like Abrams, Mo and Billy
But yes if she's smart enough to buy unstop she is basically system admin
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>>578029343
>watching twitch streams
are you 13 years old?
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>>578029343
>implying graves is attractive
Yeah, no. You probably said some weird shit
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after playing random in street brawl there are definitely heroes i will never ever play because how fucking boring they are
here's the list atm
>billy
>shiv
>calico
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>>578029343
i got banned from a stream after calling the female streamer a useless feeder after i observed she was doing the t3 camp while her teammates died 10 feet away
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>>578029343
>anon said graves is really molestable
>wtf why did i get banned
stop watching people play video games though, gayboy
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What do you guys think?
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>>578029920
Victor doesn't pay taxes because he isn't a american citizen technically
MY HERO
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>>578024240
diaper rem build

core items:
>ricochet
>blood tribute
>capacitor

playstyle:
1. rem farms jungle and sinners until 2k unsecured souls
2. rem goes to the mid bridge and types "uh oh diapey full!!! stinky poopy time!!!"
3. rem activates blood tribute, dropping the orb to be claimed by friend or foe
4. repeat until the game ends
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>>578029920
>billy
>pays taxes
actually in-character
pseudorebel cuck
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REMOVE THE 15 CASUAL WIN REQUIREMENTS I WANT TO FUCKING GET OUT OF HERE
EVERY NIGHT I GET HOME FROM WORK AND SPEND 4-6 HOURS PUTTING MYSELF THROUGH A FUCKING HUMILIATION RITUAL TRYING TO GET THESE WINS
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>>578029920
graves can't pay taxes because she's le heckin childerino
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>>578030141
all you need is wraith mo and seven
how do you fucking lose with that pick
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>>578030141
if you dont have at least 6 you werent ready anyway
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>>578027821
>no leaks
Yoshit really brought them out the back and used the firing squad huh...
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>>578030141
if you cant handle losing in casual with 0 stakes (and you can even afk if your team is doing bad) you aren't ready for ranked at all

thank you yoshi for keeping these mental midgets out of my games
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>>578030178
Shes 18 and babysits
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>>578030178
>The Internal Revenue Service requires all taxpayers, regardless of age, to file a tax return and pay the appropriate income tax in any year their gross income exceeds certain levels
its OVER for goymutts and their spawnlings kek
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>>578030506
>gross income exceeds certain levels
You seem to have missed that part.
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>>578030462
she's a fucking high schooler, chud.
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>this guy with a full time job is better than literally everyone in NA
rough
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it actually makes zero sense that ricochet oneshots graves' skulls
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>>578030301
they cant leak anything if they dont work on the game
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>>578030572
Not exempt. Still need to pay taxes.
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>>578030578
Doesn't take much to be good with Mo krill
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>>578030578
imagine wasting your life raising a child AND playing deadlock

gg
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>>578030626
this, they pretty much gave up on the game to go work on dota 2 events
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How do I build Shiv? I feel like there are no items that really *click* with his skillset. I look at popular builds and they all look kinda out of place for him
>Mystic shot isn't synergetic with his rightclick slide
>Gun items in general aren't great since his gun is cosmetic and doesn't synergize with his spirit rend
>Melee items feel out of place since he has no way to guarantee a melee hit
>Decay feels like a waste since sending it immidiately to build rage is counterintuitive
>Healbane seem synergetic but when you buy it you get a feeling that it was a trap item
>I'd like to buy items like mystic slow or suppressor but they are dead end 1600 sould items
>Torment pulse seem nice but lots of builds advice against it?
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>>578030629
thats another guy i think? they do look alike though im pretty sure all 30 year old white guys look like that
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>>578030806
shiv is garbage right now but try to get escalating exposure every game as your first t4

then just buy survival items. the longer you live the better, usually eshift is the best item for you cause it makes deferred damage go away without antiheal mattering
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>>578030826
Oh it is a different guy. They both have the crew cut + moustache
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LET ME
SHOW YAALLL
HOW ITS DUUUNE
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>>578030806

Oh also:
>Shivs kit is literammy begging for extra charge and cooldown reduction, but these items seem like they wont help him secure kills
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>>578030951

Yeah, I've looked at eshift. While it is active, deferred damage doesn't tick, so it acts as a pseudo heal?
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>Watch Doorman kidnap one trick forced to play something else
>Endlessly feeds
Wow, its almost like they dont deserve their rank or something
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>>578030980
WINNING IS MA BIHNESS AND BUSINESS IS *KA-CHING* GOOD
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>>578031082
basically yeah

lots of people buy radiant regeneration but I dont like it, I find it doesnt help much
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Reminder, if you're not banning Celeste you are trolling
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GRIFTING
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>>578031480
Wraith if she candace owens
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>>578030578
AShires is employed as well.
Pretty impressive.
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>>578031124
so true, ritualistbro
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>>578031565
>>578031480
valve when they pretend to work on the game
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>>578031176

Yeah I've tested it to but it feels like a wasted slot. It doesn't help damage and you don't significantly survive better with it. Seems to me like it only seems good in situation where it wouldn't have mattered anyhow.
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>>578031769
cope
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>>578031769
goober directly said they were boosted in the discord, chud
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>>578031901
do I look like I know who the fuck goober is, beyond that why do you think I give a shit, retard???
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>>578031350
No one complained about her before the ecelebs said she was OP.
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>>578031124
He's steadily climbing back up so I guess he does deserve it though...
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>>578032816
>By one tricking Kidnap man
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>>578032876
...at a level to climb ranked... so I guess... he's not boosted...
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>>578032931
Pressing R and abusing door isnt a skill
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>>578032996
So why don't you do it to get free wins
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>>578032747
I do not give a shit about ecelebs, I'm in oracle 6 and every single game is almost decided by who has Celeste on their team
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>lose four games in a row with the character I'm trying to bring into ranked
>requeue
>matchmaking gives me my main
>Alt+F4
>close the game
I'm not sorry
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>>578033039
>Deflecting
Also your idol is losing without his duo to carry him. Sucks to suck I guess.
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Why do so many players in this playtest have anger issues? It feels like for every 1 chill person on the mic who understands they're playing a video game, there's 3 people who do nothing but act like assholes toward their own team. Are these all people who were bullied growing up and so they lash out at others in video games, or what?
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>>578033081
nta but answer the question, why can't you do it?
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>>578033193
>Deflecting
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>>578032442
because you said it was low rank only opinion when it's not, everyone knows doorman shitters dont actually know how to play the game they just do one thing that's super effective and ignore the real game
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>>578033081
I think he's pretty bad off Doorman and even on his hero jobs a lot but can play his stupid gimmick build at a high level, I don't know why people like you get so pissy about this and refuse to admit at least that much, it's not like you're ever going to be in these lobbies to have to play with or against this shit.
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>>578033252
>I don't know why people like you get so pissy about this
Stop projecting your seething rage that I called out your favorite youtuber.
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>>578033312
>seething rage
>favorite youtuber
I don't even know what to say man you're melting down.
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>>578033356
>Trying to backpedal by pretending we arnt talking about the same person
kwab
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>rem on your team goes gun
>rem on their team goes full support
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>>578033407
I don't know how you read me doing that into that post. You need to take 10 deep breaths before you reply to this post.
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>>578033462
>Melting so hard he forgot how to speak english
keeeeek
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>>578033517
You need to do some light exercise before you post again to clear your head, come back after you've hit 50 push ups.
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>>578033595
>Not even talking about the game anymore
Concession accepted.
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Huh I wonder why >>578033172 got no replies
>look at following posts
>the exact kind of anger issues people I identified
lmao i guess people hate being called out
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Would you run a Mina deck?
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I just play brool.
I fear I've forgotten how to play the actual mode.
Everyone here uses actives at least.
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>>578033204
I accept your concession.
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>>578033765
Uh oh! Your favorite youtuber just lost again without their duo to carry them!
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>>578033706
fag
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>just had a 50 minute game where 4 people were comming in english and won because of it
>three of them in obvious ESL
thank god for the standardization of english in Asian school systems, a lingua franca does bring people together.
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How do you win with Holliday? I can play her and land every lasso and every barrel and every headshot and take walkers and get picks and push lanes and gank and still lose the game and have a terrible win rate with her.
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>>578034262
make enough space in the first 20 minutes for your wraith/seven/venator to free farm
then after that just pray
she's got Cinderella shoes
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>>578034262
pick your targets better. get their carry.
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>>578034262
have you tried taking base guardians too
and then shrines
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>>578034262
You just suck not gonna lie
You are a pick hero, PICK people
The most vulnerable heroes, the carries, etc
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>>578033440
>haze in their team go 21/0
>haze in your team go 0/21
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>>578034262
Use an aimbot like everyone else, her passive wants you to cheat.
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>>578034262
are you buying spirit burn and EE?
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>>578034262
Sometimes you either just lose the sauce with a character or the character can't solo carry on their own.
Holliday doesn't scale as hard as your typical carry.
I feel like solo carrier need to be able to abuse fire rate or escalating exposure well. They did make holliday barrels be able to use EE but I don't think it's good enough of an afterburn to be able to properly use it honestly.
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>>578034407
not really i find enemy hazes tend to throw a ton
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>>578034810
you're probably facing my team then
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>>578033657
only if it features her giant futa cock
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>>578034379
>kidnap literally anyone
>bring them to my team
>stand still
>they don't get the kill and the enemy runs away
sounds like hyperbole but it happens so fucking much, and then when you do the back dash to drop a barrel on them to do some extra damage the team will yell at you for not standing still.
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>>578036369
>stand still
Why don't you barrel on them while they are lassoed?
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>>578036369
yeah and thats why you gotta play m1 to climb
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I just realized the massive safety hazard of the fire guy being a bartender
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>>578036369
There's a thing called a mic
Use it nigger
>I'm lassoing someone come quick
People aren't mindreaders, they can't instantly tell what you're doing or your game plan
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>>578036369
this but doorman and letting the enemy walk away after being stomped and out of position while my teammates are less than 20 meters away.
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>Feeds the enemy Haze
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Dude I just gotta start banning Sinclair every time this hero is on my team he just takes a MASSIVE SHIT on any chance of winning the game.
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>>578037772
>both have multiple abilities that can deal with the haze and both out trade her in lane
impressive
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there's no reason I should have 0/16/1 wraiths on my team
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>>578036874
What do you mean?
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>>578037827
bans only work when they're on the enemy side unfortunately
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>>578037827
so go winclair and deny others from getting them
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My perfect little angel is streaming go give her some love :3
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Overwatch somehow had a better balance AND matchmaking than this game, what the fuck is wrong with Valve?
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>>578033440
>Gun Rem BAD even doe he's just like picking Oddjob in Goldeneye
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>>578033706
> play old ranked because it was the only option
> climbing slowly
> rank up from pooracle to shittom
> everyone is exactly the same
> no one likes taking risks, game goes on for 40 minutes
> realize ranks are probably fake and anyone can climb given enough play time (this includes me)
> play brool instead
and now
> try playing standard with a friend
> someone immediately quits when they feel like they wont be getting a free win
> play brool instead
it may be a retard kiddy pool, but at least i get to play it and not get held hostage
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would you rather have to raise rem to adulthood (10 years) and get paid 2 million afterwards OR have graves just appear in your room (she doesn't know you so if you're an ugly male she will most likely attack you with her powers)
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>>578038124
what in the fuck is that sweater shirt combo

some people should not be allowed to buy their own clothes
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>>578038124
Look at that face awwwww
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>>578038219
graves. im not a pedophile so if she hates me thats fine, and dying to evil necromancy sounds pretty fucking hardcore
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>>578038219
I get to raise the magical birdrat and get paid for it? Sign me up! Little buddy is going to learn a lot about jews and negros, he'll become a great politician I'm sure of it
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>>578038078
Well I know that isn't true because I've banned McNiggis from someone on our team before
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>>578038350
>and dying to evil necromancy sounds pretty fucking hardcore
Shes built like an anorexic. Just yank the lich hand away from her and slap her around with it
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>>578038219
Raise Rem. You'll just have to potty train him in the first years.
Are you fucking crazy, quality sleep for the foreseeable future? I'd kill for this.
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>>578038219
Sure I guess I'll raise a son?
I trust the eldritch demon more than an evil necromancer because there's at least a chance he'll turn out alright.
>evil murder necromancer that wants everyone dead and can literally not be stopped by any means we know of
VS
>some baby eldritch extra dimensioonal guy that for all we know could just like Be A Guy (but also wouldn't be able to be stopped by any means we know)
Also don't bring up the "oh but if necromancer real that means god real so just use cross" because no it doesn't.
Unless in this hypothetical I get transported to deadlockverse I'll just take my chances with the kid.
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>>578038241
he's cute but what hero does he main
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i find my late night NA games are a lot funner than the ones during the day...
ranked unemployed gamers..
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>>578038219
>raise cutelittle ratbird thing (get free sleep also attract women also get loadsa mone)
>or interact with jewess
nigger how is this even a choice
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>>578038592
why u watching streams lil nigga its 3 am for u go to bed
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>>578038447
>Just yank the lich hand away from her and slap her around with it

> she casts grasp
> get caught
> two ghouls explode on me, painting me across the walls and ceiling
imagine the police trying to figure that shit out
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>>578038818
Just step over it nigga and use her as a human shield.
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>>578038445
enemy banned it, it doesnt say you banned it (because you didnt)
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>>578038897
proofs?
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>>578038852
>Just step over it nigga
that's not how it works i'd have to jump off of something high to clear it
i still think death by necromancy is cooler
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>>578038241
ngl white bois are looking better and better which each year I assume when AI unlocks gene editing they will be nearly identical to real females and I would be open to mating with them
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>>578038014
You accepted this possibility when you queued. If you don't like it, stick to 6 stacks in Standard.
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Just realized I keep getting caught at secret shops because faggots have the cheat mod that tells them i just bought an item, so they know im at the secret shop if they just saw me recently
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>>578039075
Gene editing will be enforced on browns first and foremost
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>>578038241
>>578038657
>>578039075
cant tell if you guys are memeing or not is that actually a man

I'm scared
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>>578038592
someone get some gorilla glue and bring her back....
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>>578039237
>cheat mod that tells them i just bought an item
is this bait
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>>578039418
you seriously can't tell? good for you bro go get that bussy
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>>578039418
Gays really hope every girls has a penis
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>>578039513
you have literally just learned how you can abuse the mod for perfect information about a person's location in the game and you think it's not cheating lol
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Kelvin's really fun I like to just stand there and chill people and watch them melt but most kelvins I play with/against max the grenade first and go tank instead of spirit, whats the proper way to play him? don't have him in ranked yet
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>>578038056
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>>578039573
Nigga you gay
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>>578039867
if your team is running away trap them in your ult and just stand there doing nothing
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>YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE ME MAD
>dies instantly
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>NEED A LIFT?
>*Passes you the boof*
Do you accept it?
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ivy's spanish is literally conjugated wrong - even using AI to translate would be better
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>>578040128
Her Spanish is a little rocky!
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>>578004232
The crazy thing is none of these dudes are in the same match they are all stomping some noobs
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>>578040128
She's not mexican
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>>578040128
Spanish is different depending on the region el retardo
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sex with rem
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>>578040496
>>578040582
her spanish doesn't match spain's dialect either. it's literally grammatically wrong and probably most similar to how jeets speak "indian english"
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After 2 games of auto fill billy post nerf, you're basically a phantom strike + ult/bashdown bot
Nothing wrong with that, if you can shut down the nigger heroes while tanking then you are doing your job
Just feels like you have less agency overall
Hot tip buy silencer too to shut down victors or spirit niggas.
Become the ultimate anti fun man
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>>578040890
wait til you find out that all of deadlock heros are extremely simplistic in ability design and are [do 1-3 things] bots
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>>578039832
i have no clue what you are even talking about. the game shows you when people buy items anyway. what am i missing
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>>578040937
Again that's fair, its just that if you don't play someone who can do more or less EVERYTHING like Celeste, wraith, lash etc then it feels meh
Billy is ultimately fine now, just hope yoshi nerfs the do everything heroes.
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>>578040890
Buy crushing fists and bashdown max
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>>577998508
press your counterspell when he's about to hit max stacks. it would unironically block all that damage. alternatively don't be retarded and buy dispel.
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>>578041125
Oh I do + greater expansion, its just that obviously those are expensive items and you will have to pick and choose depending on the comp
I've been seeing tons of Lash, Celeste, GTs, vindictas lately so Phantom strike just feels mandatory
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>>578041082
the only hero that can do everything is wraith
celeste and lash can't hard carry games
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>>578040959
it pops up underneath the portrait in real time with one of the mods so that you see what item they bought and at the exact time they did it.

this means you dont have to press tab to see their items they bought and it lets you know they're at one of the two secret shops or at their spawn, both of which can be huge info gains late in the match or right after laning if they lost their guardian
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>>578040775

It’s good for Miami
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>>578041290
>celeste and lash can't hard carry games
You're either
>Low elo
>Baiting
>Downplaying your elo potions
Celeste is powercreep, she's victor but with inbuilt magic carpet.
Lash speaks for himself, there's a reason he's been 60%+ pickrate for eons at this point.
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>>577999020
You're an initiator. You're meant to swoop in, kudzu, web, stoneform, arctic blast, whatever. This is personally how I play her. Pick any 2 from optionals depending on personal needs. It's usually greens.
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>>578040890

That reminds me
>shoulder charging a Victor and smacking him with a silencer+inhibitor+spirit snatch combo

Literally the best feeling.
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>Deadlock India games on
>no one discussing in the general
yeah this game is dead
eos in 2 weeks
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>>578042169
That's cool and but
>Dies
>Ult triggers
>Activates refresher
MY. TURN.
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>>578039075
least zesty negro
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>>578040775
Latinx bro can you tell me how good the actor who played Manny speaks spanish here ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCS_LgljryU
His accent sounds a bit portuguese.
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>>578042393
saar
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>>578024593
>A hero with a slow-firing bolt-action rifle that can dish out a lot of single-shot damage, make it sluggish like Silver's weapon but with great damage and accuracy (honestly should be how vindicta's gun works)
this sucks on paper and in practice, retard
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What should I buy, as Victor, if the enemy Silver is fed? It felt like I'm tickling her after she transforms
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>>578042868
Literally anything you want, she becomes worthless after 20 minutes and you outscale her extremely hard.
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>>578042868
Silver into victor is one of her few good matchups, just try to ignore her early/mid game and scale
Metal skin is good, if you're too slot locked then juggernaut is great as well since anti fire rate items render her a NPC.
You can try cheesing her wolf form with ropes and general mobility tech, it works surprisingly well
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>>578042868
utilize the magic carpet item to quickly escape
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Gut this nigger hero Vyper immediately
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>>578043558
Fun fact she has base 6 stamina with her passive maxxed out
HOW THE FUCK
IS THAT FAIR
She should be nerfed to base 2 stamina honestly and she would STILL be OP as fuck.
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>>578043558
gut vyper
gut wraith
gut apollo
gut holliday
gut ivy
gut micginnis
gut victor
gut mokrill
then the game will be good
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>>578040775
she's also not from spain, retard.
next you're gonna say "wtf why does Celestes english sound entirely wrong??? she should speak like Apollo. THAT'S the correct way to speak English!"
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>>578031176
Radiant Regen rush or as your 4.8k is weird on Shiv. He wants to last long in fights, but lasting that long leaves him with nothing to do unless he already has T3 dash then of course he needs to live long enough to reset, but that's lategame. It feels like Shivvers gaslit themselves into thinking rushing that is good.
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>>578043750
>Warden not on that list
kill yourself mayhaps
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>>578043928
>size 3 hitbox that walks at you and nothing else
brick retard
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>>578043832
celeste speaks gramatically correct english.
ivy says shit like "to lift off" instead of "lifting off"
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>>578043928
he's honest.
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>>578044348
>m-muh hitbox!
bricklow comment
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going to be using her for the first time what should I be doing?
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>>578044905
permaroam once you have snipe
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>>578044349
She says "a volar" which is "let's fly"
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>Break Vindicta's safety condom with anvil
>Get her with Bebop hook
>RAPE
God it's a great feeling
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>>578044905
ugh god i wish she would peg me
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>>578044905
lane is win/lose based on matchup, you either perma bully them or you farm from behind your guardian
if ahead get +1 in stake, otherwise 224423341131
gun > fortitude > quicksilver/surge OR dispel/counterspell based on game state,
mid/lategame press 3 for mercurial + surge and vamp burst to rape people even at 0 stacks
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>>578040004
TIME TO LET OUT THE BEAST
>*turns into a big fat fucking melee creep and dies*
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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you guys main ssssssssssssssss+inclair right?
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OH GOD NOT AGAIN
>gets juked by going up and down a zipline
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>>578024593
>>An actual backline artillery type caster but with pure damage focus rather than kind of support like Paige, maybe a kit that really rewards you for being on top of buildings
This was Grey Talon before they injected steroids into his 2.
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i feel like the general skill level overall is higher in europe compared to america both in standard and in ranked but europeans tilt so much faster and so much easier plus europeans are the most toxic niggers on earth and nobody speaks english so you have people screeching and typing in broken sentences like fucking third-world monkeys
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>>578046717
>but europeans tilt so much faster
a retarded vatnigg is having a melty in my game as I'm typing this
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>>578047064
Well, what are you waiting for? Record it so we can all have a laugh
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>>578046717
Try playing with retarded chink niggers and pajeets on Asian servers, its hell
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>>578046717
Europeans will shit talk and scream at each other but will still play the game
Had a game where my russian rem and vyper were yelling at each other, blaming each other etc but we still won lol because the enemy trolled mid and I spammed the parry key at rejuv crystal.
I feel like NA has too much of a obsession over KDA even at high rank that limits them
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>>578046717
i be are european but i can speaking in good english, you are a retarded person?
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>>578046717
pretty much true for all games
EU is just a better environment for breeding player skill. not as much of a monoculture, significantly more diverse and spirited
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Just had the funniest victor game ever where I did literally nothing but just sidelane afk farm and still won
Mind you I was against GT and Wraith so its not like I can realistically fight them but still
Thanks yoshi I'll take my 8th winstreak, phantom is only 1000 points away.
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>>578034262
i mean she's not a hard carry thats just how it is
i play a lot of mo and krill and dominate most of these but will still lose sometimes partly because you can't take objectives or your team is not doing enough damage to finish people off
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>>577977664
how many years does it take to train a fucking ai to catch on if there's cheating or not genuinely because it's been like what, 3 already? and this shit is valve so you KNOW they've already lost interest on it by year 1
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>>578048521
you'd think with the billions of hours of BANNED PLAYERS gameplay demos, they'd combine them all to get something that tracks cheaters but i guess not.
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>>578039075
did you have to rub your clitty after posting this
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game needs a feature where the patron calls you a fucking drooling retard if you keep dying. Someone has to teach people that each time you die you make the enemy stronger. Tired of these games where one nigger has 20 deaths because he kept holding W the whole game and now everyone else on the team has to be a sweat to compensate.
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>>577990696
>Take weapon ranges for example, what kind of a retard gives Graves 15m weapon range and expects them to shoot down people flying away on a zipline, that mechanic might aswell not exist for her
it's wild to me that we can have graves in this state but somehow a full melee hero is too much honestly
it's literally the exact same thing, hell you could even say graves is even more infuriating to people because they see it and think "UHHHH SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO AIM?? BUSTED BUSTED BUSTED NERF YOSHIT PLS"
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does anyone even know how radiant regen works
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>>578044905
>cheat mods
you should be uninstalling the game
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>>577998508
You are pushing the last enemy walker as the least farmed person in the lobby with the entire enemy team missing while midboss is alive. Holy fuck i'm not even going to comment on the gameplay, every bad decision was made before the clip even started.

Is this billy main iq?
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>>578049407
You do spirit damage to enemy heroes and get Regen, stacking per different target
You use an ability with the item cd available to get a small burst heal
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just got perma banned from a stream because i called Pocket a ''he''
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>>578049804
your fault for watch trannies
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>>578049804
Ok
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>>578026187
i really don't think this is true. sure the characters and systems in rivals are simpler but it's precisely that that creates the trouble of having unique characters that don't step on eachother's shoes or that aren't inmediatelly conceptually busted due to there being no systems like the item shop to alliviate this pressure. in deadlock you can just put conceptually busted kit designs like victor in and because of the farm and items you can KINDA (but not really) balance it enough so that people get tricked into thinking it's not bullshit, so you can actually do whatever the fuck you want with new characters. Like doorman. Or Silver. Or Apollo or Celeste.
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>>578024843
>>Will never happen because sounds like a nightmare to last hit with
>STILL balancing the game around the first 10 minutes of the match
>around a vestigial mechanic that's literally just a fucking attention check and nothing else nowadays

you are genuinely everything that's wrong with the game currently. KILL yourself asap
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>>578050231
>around a vestigial mechanic that's literally just a fucking attention check and nothing else nowadays
Posts from coonlow
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>>578043832
>spanish harlem
>brought up by the family of a high class citizen running for mayor called Carlos
>not from spain or mexico
son come the fuck on she doesn't even sound chicana
>>578044980
he meant the dialogue where she says "DESPEGAR!" you mongoloid. She should be saying "Despeguemos!" instead. really "despegar" should only be used in this context after a countdown.
>>578042620
which one is manny? regardless it'd be
Heladio = Bolsa >>> Hector
You can tell Heladio's first language isn't spanish but he's doing a really good job and he's puting a lot of emotion into it and pronunciating that emotion into the proper places. Bolsa has better spanish but he's a lot more subdued so it's easier for him to speak it. Hector's really bad at it and you gotta suspend your disbelief the same way you gotta do for Saul whenever they bring up his age as if he's not being played by a 60 year old man.
By far the actor with the worst spanish in both shows is Gustavo though. Actual unintelligible noises which is funny since he's supposed to be chilean but very clearly not intended.
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>>578049804
you said this last thread. no one cares. streamers are faggots. big news.
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>>578051082
Shes a fucking gargoyle no shes not from spain or mexico. She doesnt sound Chicana because shes a gargoyle who adopted some mannerisms from her found family
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>>578050973
nta but it LITERALLY is.
last hitting minions is a skill, last hitting souls is not.
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>>578051245
if you denied every enemy soul orb you could in a game instead of deciding to stop for 3/4ths of every match you would win many, many more matches. They're functionally worth double.
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>>578050973
>calling others pisslow as if he didn't just admit to having trouble with fucking denies of all things
TALES FROM BRICKLOW

>>578051206
that's the problem you fucking retard, WHERE is her found family from? They have to be first generation immigrants due to the timeline so their spanish should be super clear and since Ivy was brought up around them she should've catched on to them very fast and clear. Yet you can't seem to trace it down to anywhere at all and she's speaking it clearly wrong. Why does Yamato get an entirely new voice actress for her japanese being google translate shit but Ivy doesn't?
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>Venator going 0-6 in lane
>Proceeds to "fix" this by going to farm random camps and abandoning walkers despite being 5k behind
>Celeste starts rightfully sperging out over it
>"It's just a game bro calm down, go outside bro, like go talk to your friends or something bro"
And then I'm getting accused of being toxic for being a sweat? This is ten times worse
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>>578051479
standard or ranked?
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>>578051350
...except it's rigged to the defender's favor so in reality no one with half a brain is EVER going to let you deny more than one or two hits a match, this includes characters like Graves which are functionally melee in range and attack for this mechanic. You'd be right if you said this around a year and a half ago (or is it two by now?), but they've modified the soul orbs so much into irrelevancy that it's just vestegial at this point.
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>>578024843
>Will never happen because sounds like a nightmare to last hit with
heroes only ever having 1 weapon was a mistake
kinda too many buttons already to fix. maybe you could have it take an active item slot or something, some drawback like that in exchange for baked-in versatility
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>>578051543
It's always ranked anon.
https://files.catbox.moe/2lyvln.webm
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>you have to go through the literal hell that is nu-standard if you want to bring a new character to ranked
this sounded better on paper yoshi
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>>578051717
I mean you ARE rank rat anon
Thank you for the perspective though, I thought my high oracle players were braindead holy shit lmao
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>>577998508
disconnect the second you see victor on the enemy team
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>>578051717
if you say "it's just a video game" in ranked you should be instantly bannned.
>>578051943
Yeah, genuinely awful system.
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POST GRAVES
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GRAVES
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>>578044905
I've been trying to queue as vindicta since I posted this but I haven't gotten a single game where I get to play her
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>>577999020
unironically, literally whatever you want it to be.
Healcuck and abuse 2
slippery gun carry
engage ult/stun/silence bot
hybrid support/carry
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>>578052510
>>578051943
remember all the people saying the game was saved and thanking valve for finally making the matchmaker good and proper when the update was first released
lol
lmao
rolfmao even
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>>578052732
too good, got in an mmr where she's banned
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>>578052821
nobody was saying that
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>>578052821
No we said one tricks and smurfs got shit on and they did
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>>578052821

To be honest I think the new system is fine.

Anyone actually good at the game can grind the leaderboard in eternus lobbies that has true mmr.

Everyone else can get a sense of meaningful progression as they splash around in the training ranks. Since they aren't skilled enough to matter they don't really need a fair mmr system.
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>>578053193
I have like 20 back to back victor games on ranked you can definitely still one trick
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>>578053051
nigga it's fine to be wrong you don't gotta pretend

>>578053245
>it's fine that only the .5% of the total playerbase gets to actually experience proper matchmaking, actually
i get it's a lot more important for the upper ranks but come on now. i don't even think most people can feel the difference between all the ranks until high oracle or phantom even.
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>>578052642
THANKS
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in the very far future once the game's released, if the matchmaking is still bad then, it'll 100% end up in another faceit situation like cs where a 3rd party platform becomes the main ranked mode
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>>578053873
this game has just been poor mm snowballs for its entire existence this is not a mistake this is how the game is intended to be
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>>578053245
>can grind the leaderboard in eternus lobbies that has true mmr.
you do know employed people exist, right?
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>>578051943
It sounds really good on paper since having someone win 15 times 3 characters is atleast minimum something like 18.5 hours (that’s if you win every single match as those characters in a row under a half hour) so you’d think they’d have a general understanding of the basic mechanics, but then Casual is such a goddamn mess it’s practically pointless, how does a new player learn in this environment?
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>people actually think the nu ranking is good
you can literally hit a badge and maintain a winrate of 20% and stay there forever. you're supposed to fucking derank.
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>>578056051
proof?
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50 cent warden >>> all
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>>578056227
Simple counting exercise
>Be phantom 1
>Have 5 shield protection
>Lose 6 times in a row
>Derank into Oracle 6
>Win 1 game
>Rank back up to Phantom 1
>Regain 5 shield protection
>Lose 5 games
>Still Phantom 1
So you can go 1-11 and still be the same rank. That's fucking retarded.
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>>578056530
mobasissies cant handle getting downranked
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>>578056530
Shouldn't there be a spike in people stuck in the first subrank of each rank if this was a problem? Maybe for individuals.
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funny how drifter is the 1v1 assassin hero except he can't 1v1 without a lead
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ranks mean nothing in a matchmaking system that's pants on head retarded
no valve I'm not gonna carry 4 mouth breathing retards every game, give me players on my skill level
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>>578056440
I wish viscous had some stuff going on besides the Kirby and the Scooby Doo villian one
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I cant handle the verbal abuse anymore so I decided to disable text and voice chat. only pings are enabled.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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>>578056863
I think complaining about it is a lost cause at this point, ranks mean nothing really, you’re gonna seeing the exact same dogshit plays at every level it’s just a difference in how effectively they throw themselves into it
>Wet Cardboard 3 Drifter with 4 items after 30 minutes runs headfirst into a 1v6 to protect a 10% hp Walker
>Walker dies 10 seconds before he gets there and he picks a fight anyways
>Suffragette City 8 Abrams with his effectively stolen enemy farms expert build dives into a 1v6 to protect a 15% hp Walker
>gets folded straight in half since he was immediately cursed and parried
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Dynamo has the best gun in the game satisfaction wise
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>>578058134
it was lane doorman before the rapening
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>>578057306
Rank?
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>>578004425
She has literally always been overpowered.
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>>578048521
This shit has been in the works for 10 years by now.
It could probably ban 99% of cheaters if they switched it on right now.
Problem is it might also ban innocent players, which is why it needs to have a 99.9% confidence before they let it loose.
We'll see. Machine Learning as a field has made massive strides in the last 20 years. It's been two years since I did my Master's thesis and even that work is probably deprecated by now.
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Is Sinclair Paradox swap w/ assistant the dumbest interaction in the game?
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>>578033060
Yeah it's almost like Celeste is a horribly designed character that will always be a balance mess and should not have been added.
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>>577986786
obviously celeste
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>KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE BALL THEYS AND THEMS
Why does celeste only say this when Pocket is in the match
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>>578060267
You niggers will say this about any hero you don't like
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>>578059645
it will literally never EVER be 99.9% accurate no matter what. even if you put in a person to supervise every single case specific choosen by the AI there'd still be a few that fall through the cracks or get banned accidentally, and you gotta remember valve fucking HATES doing threadmill work like this. So what's more likely? That they're chasing perfection, slowly chipping away at it or that they just quietly gave up and went back to work on stuff they find more fun instead? Just look at their fucking company history jesus, look at how fucking long it took them to "fix" the tf2 bot problem.
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>>578060635
That's mostly because no one is working on TF2, unlike CS
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>>578060572
Funny because Celeste is one of the few transphobic heroes in the cast
https://deadlock.wiki/images/e/e6/Unicorn_kill_synth_02_old.mp3
(although it has been removed...)
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>>578060892
She had a meeting with the patrons HR department
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I'll deal with the troopers
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lowkey putting on some shibuya kei, drinking a coke and listening to transgirl squeam in standard while playing heroes i wanna unlock got me chilling tf out
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>>578061124
these are the kinds of retards you get going 0/15 in your Standard games btw
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>>578061190
Its standard bro its just a game bro
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>>578061278
that doesnt give you permission to do 10k damage in a 35 minute game, useless turd
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>>578060760
nigga how many years has it been since cs2 and it STILL doesn't have all the content ported over from csgo? get fucking real right now. and you expect this cheating algorhytm to be translated to deadlock 1 to 1? because if you're expecting the deadlock devs to work on it i got REALLY bad news for you since they're currently struggling to release a measily 6 (unfinished, with badly thought out kits and recycled animations) heroes a year
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>>578061330
MUTED!!!
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>>578061551
>cs2 missing content
What? Cobblestone and other maps no one ever played? Who cares.
of course it can't be translated one to one it's trained on counter-strike. Are you fucking stupid? I'm just telling you how it works. If you want to be pissy that's fine but don't shoot the messager, retard.
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You're torn between your desire to be feared and your desire to be loved. Today you will be both.
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>>578060607
Celeste is not even remotely well designed, she is broken as fuck just conceptually, similar to Shiv. You can't give a hero literally everything with zero weaknesses and free extra mobility on top of an auto aim gun and abilities that are impossible to miss and expect them to be balanced.
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>>578061834
>maps don't get added because nobody cares about them bro
it's almost as if i'm literally telling you this is why valve isn't secretly developing an ai powered anti cheat system you fucking moron. they simply do not have the attention span necessary to involve themselves on the monumental threadmill work required for such a task, nevermind the fact that it's LITERALLY impossible to do. they'd rather just ignore the problem like they've done many, many times in the past.
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>>578051404
cuz it makes sense for a (probably Dutch) gargoyle to speak Spanish wrong after having been recently turned into a living creature but it doesnt make sense for a native Japanese speaker who lived in Japan her whole life to speak Japanese wrong
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>>578062209
then why does the dutch gargoyle speak english perfectly well and not with a dutch accent
why doesn't she speak dutch at all
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>>578051404
because no one cares about spanish or spanish adjacent representation
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>>578062078
See, that's SLIGHTLY better because at least you've said what you don't like.
Very telling you waited until she became popular (despite getting no changes) to voice this criticism, though.
Volumes.
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>>578062173
They literally launched VACNET last week. Do a modicum of research before you start spouting schizobabble.
>uhm actually they should sit down and port Baggage
Great idea. Totally worth the time.
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>>578062497
this is the true answer and anything else is cope
however it doesn't make it any less sloppy
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>>578062343
Because Spanish Harlems first immigration wave circa 1920 were all Puerto Ricans, and PRs all speak English decently well but speak some of the worst Spanish you've ever heard lol. Its probably just laziness but its kind of a deep cut for Ivy to speak spanish badly
>t. Manhattanite who lived in PR/DR neighborhoods for most of his life
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>>578062497
>Spanish
They prefer latinx
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>>578031013
the 1 day where they made shiv's dash weapon damage was a step in the right direction but sadly, no fun allowed. express shot + melee nuke was kino
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>>578062613
>VACNET
existed for years now and it's just overwatch with an ai system slapped on top. you'll always still need a human to check the end result, you'll always have cases where the result is wrong, and you can bet your ass it's gonna get abused much like overwatch did back in the day.

8 years for them to finally give away private test to the public by the way, in a game as simplistic as csgo to boot. and you genuinely believe this will be developed into that 99.9% efficiency rate? it's just gonna get slapped and then abandoned like literally every other system in their games you clown. literally just wait and watch. how much longer will we have to wait until the same system is adapted to deadlock? 10 years?
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>>578063119
Shiv players are never living down the massive tantrum they threw about that rework, just blubbering about it until Yoshi undid it. Aura loss! Sad!
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>>578062716
see this would make sense but she should still have a puerto rican accent if that were the case
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>>578063348
That part is wrong, for sure.
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>>578062716
so PR people speak spanish like dr mundo?
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kicking the ball in the atrium is kinda fun
they need to make a football minigame/event
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>>578063514
Yes, so do Dominicans
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>Download GunZ after hearing it's one of the forefathers of deadlock's movement system
>You have to animation cancel, after every single button press or else you're locked in a shitty animation for 3 seconds
what the fuck?
is this what deadlock would've become if they didn't remove HMC?
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That meet the ivy short was so ass.
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>>578063348
>ivy Voice actor Jeannie Tirado was born and raised in Orlando, Florida, and is of Puerto Rican descent.

I told you retards it would fly in Miami the spainish world is bigger than your shithole
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playing video games with friends is inherently unfun as all your friends are at different skill levels meaning someone is going to get raped all the time

so i guess you need friends who are cucks who enjoy being raped
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>>578063202
It's either that or kernel level spyware.
>overwatch
Overwatch already had an ML system on top of it, but this time they've made changes to prevent it from being abused.
Deadlock is literally easier to develop a similar system for because TTK is so much longer that perfect aim is a lot more suspicious than a flick AK headshot.
You should do research before you post schizobabble it makes you look retarded.
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>>578063876
In all fairness, it's not meant to be anything other than an animation showcase. The leaked dialogue is random and boring out of context: it's meant to be just one scene in a VN that wasn't even finished. It's not meant to work as a contained scene.

People comparing it to official trailers and shit are stupid—including the creator for calling it "Meet the"
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>>578063653
There's a football custom map
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>>578064107
unless you made your own mobo you already have kernel level Israeli spyware
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>>578062716
I fucking hated hearing Spanish until HS when I heard some Spaniards speaking it and it sounded pleasant. Turns out Peurto Rican spanish is just vile.
t. Upstate New Yawkah
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>>578064305
No shit.
So you're advocating for kernel level access instead of an ML lead anticheat?
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Does Deadlock publish your stats for others to see? Does it let you reset them aside from your mmr? This stuff always annoys me when I'm going into a game where I know I'm going to get my face kicked in, at the very least initially
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>>578064509
Only on 3rd party websites or your friends list
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https://steamcommunity.com/id/BigRedRambles/
add me for gay sex, I'm functionally a retarded nigger
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>>578064791
>posts on /dlg/
we know nigga
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>>578064107
>but this time they've made changes to prevent it from being abused.
and those changes are? oh wait WHOOPS cheaters are already in the fucking private test messing with it haha my bad i'm sure this is a nothingburger and the company that took 5 fucking years to fix spinbots ruining one of their most played games has this under control https://x.com/Ozzny_CS2/status/2087945416218136894

>Deadlock is literally easier to develop a similar system for because TTK is so much longer that perfect aim is a lot more suspicious than a flick AK headshot.
Except in deadlock aiming isn't the only kind of cheat you'd have. Hell that's not even the case in csgo either. Here you have so many more systems that the AI would have to keep in track of besides aiming, wallhacking, autoparry, gravity changes, soul economy itself. anything and everything will be exploited, it's a system a LOT more complex even if the time to kill brings so relief to the machine (and it often won't due to soul disparity meaning you'll often have people oneshotting the enemy much like in csgo). What's stopping a cheater from only activating autoaim on an m1 carry in lategame when they can effectively just completely shut down the enemy in .5 seconds even on a normal match?
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>>578064773
Can you opt out of that bullshit?
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How is it even possible to lose as Wraith?
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>>578065107
>and those changes are
It being video format, for one, seperate from the game entirely. Essentially makes it so it doesn't matter if cheaters get in because they can't fish any information out of it. Sure, they can poison the well, but if they consistently go against the masses their account will just get 0 weighting
>Deadlock is more complex
Doesn't matter because the things that can realisitcally be hacked is much easier to track because the game moves significantly slower.
>>578065347
No lmao, atleast not in any way that I know of
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Deadlock should reduce its complexity by about 10%, it would unironically make it a more skillful and fun game
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crazy how weak McGinnis is now. She was C tier before with no good build, now she's just F tier garbage
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>>578065947
Good.
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>>578065947
good
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>>578065947
>one of the easiest heroes in the game isn't stupid op anymore
good
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>>578062606
Are you schizophrenic? What are you even talking about? People have said this since she has been put into the game that she is a bad design and that any time she is good, the game is in a bad state.

I have personally held the opinion that she is broken as fuck and will always remain that way because of the fact that every single ability in her kit is overtuned and overloaded with all sorts of extra bullshit. Free lifesteal, free spirit amp, a shield that punishes the enemy for breaking it, an ult that is basically impossible to fuck up and is as disruptive as a Dynamo or Pocket ult. On top of that, she gets improved movement for free... and a gun that auto aims. Nothing about this character design is good, even on a conceptual level, and Celeste is just another sign that Deadlock is getting worse.
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nigdicta flight should be locked to a static speed which is half of her default walk speed
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>>578066462
>easiest hero in the game to counter and completely take out of the game
>"she should be made even worse actually"
Bricklow post
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>venator is so fucking honest bro!!!
LOL LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Yeah rape this Apollo hero again next patch thanks this faggot isn't fun to play against when he's good. He's Celeste with less damage and a stun.
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>>578066462
most people don't even know she has a movement option while flying if you rebind a key
im not a vin player so i didn't save that info in my brain but it's out there somewhere and if you play vin you should definitely do it
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>>578066110
how was she strong before? her gun is shit, her turrets are a joke, and her ult is easily countered. she gets nerfed by 10%??? that is insane for an already weak support hero
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>>578066719
Nigga she nearly had a 60% win rate even at high elo and is still over 50. Stop coping.
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>>578063874
Deadlock is already in a state about as bad as GunZ where all the 'movement tech' is just bug abuse.
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>>578082649
How you act will never be normal. You are not welcome here on 4chan. You just happen to have a mentally ill mod who protects you.
It's so pathetic how you actually think what you do is common place on 4chan. You are literally just a wannabe "sharty bro". But even they are less mentally ill than you, because they aren't as single mindedly obsessed as you are. They don't hyper fixate on the same "one person" for 15 years.

>>578082814
Troid defends you because Troid would rather protect a mentally ill retard who shares his crack shipping obsession than actually enforce the rules. Troid has our right said he doesn't actually care about enforcing the rules and just wants to make the board his safe space.

You have ruined literally thousands of threads by spamming them with "bait" totally unprovoked.

>how other people act means i am allowed to act badly
Retard cope. Seek help, !Akemi.



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