ball edition>Steam pagehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3787240/MARVEL_Tkon_Fighting_Souls/>TEAM TRAILERS :>Unbreakable X-Men https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwe13-BKiwo>Amazing Guardianshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nwtrXnN0vY>Fighting Avengershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iab74kM-xA>Knights of Doomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4qG-wqhLc>Samurai Outridershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QGiaEkqYEE>Phoenix Cyclops revealhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GrMqmDi-SU>Opening intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSk3IMcgVQYPrevious Thread: >>577790229
NERF SPIDERMAN
I'm never going to figure out who to put as my Assault assist.
>>577993362Magik and Blade are best in that slot if that helps.
>>577993786I know but I want to feel special and play characters that others don't while also not playing characters that are complete dogshit.
I hope they give everyone a shit ton of costumes
>>577993916I really hope his phoenix powers are not too intrusive to the character. Like, most of his moves should be about his optic beams and not fire blasts or stuff like that.
>>577994156There's not much point in making it Phoenix Cyclops if a meaningful bit of it isn't the Phoenix stuff. Of course he will have basic Cyclops stuff too, but I think a good degree of Phoenix powers is to be expected. Wouldn't be surprised if his optic blast is his U and his specials are all Phoenix related.
I don't understand the point of Loki's 623H.
>>577994283I only hope he is not a flyer, but he most likely is
>>577994418It's a great combo tool for stabilizing and adding damage after 22LThat's it tho it's just combo fodder like 90% of his specials
we need some more representation in this game
>>577995497Miles next year
Is Robbie Reyes as cool as arcsys made him seem in this game? I’ve read ghost rider but it was the 90s Danny ketch stuff
>>577996749He had a great start that immediately fizzled because they decided to neuter his personality right after his initial run for no reasonThe situation with his "demon" is really funny in the comics tho
>>577997158Hmm ok, I might read his og run then. I like the idea of a muscle car for a GR
How’s hulk in this game? He looks kinda lame, especially his design
entire 5 hour sajam stream had below 10 matches while waiting non stop. those had lag too
>>577997947I'm not crazy about him but he doesn't seem as boring as I initially assumed him to be. He has huge damage.
raped game
>>577993887try iron man, carnage or cap in that slot
>>577998202Refund > Crack > Parsec
Sajam: Tokon worst launch everSonicFox Supernoon Hikari: Tokon worst gameplay everMaximilianDood: uninstalledMikeRoss WoolieVersus: proud refund
>no proper patch in sight while players flee en masse due to one sided 8f rollback and 5+ minutes minimum queue time
>>577999998Me: enjoying the hell out of the game
>>577995736i meant trans
just wait out the ritualposts guys he'll tire himself out
>>578000486https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edeq8-Y8R0E
Tick-Tock
>>578000713i mean unfortunately he's not wrong tho
Now that the game has been cracked has anyone figured out how to improve the performance on the retail version? Obviously Arcsys/Sony removing anti-tamper would be the ideal scenario, but in the meantime what can be done to improve the performance of the shitty anti-tamper so we can play online?
>>578001867The answer is nothing>change anything about the game>DRM kills you and your family and won't allow you to playAnd since I think Sony/Arcsys won't do shit, just enjoy the game while it lasts.
>ruin game by stacking it to the gills with protection>models get ripped and people find references to future DLC in the game's files anywayWhat's their endgame?
>every time a special move or assist goes off opponent is clearly dropping frames and game desyncs
>>578002684>opponent breaks wall>game crashes
>My boy Nova is not even mentioned the leaksBut who's going to yell CENTURIOOOONS with me?
>>578002380She looks cute, can you show off Rogue's model please
>>578002684>>578002734why didn't they delay release...
>>578003053To do what? Add more DRM?
>>578003053at this point I blame the players. everyone knows the PC port sucks. you have nobody but yourself to blame for going online when you're clearly not running the game well
>>578003351thank you based snoy investor
>>578003616retarded faggot. nothing excuses this PC port but that's like blaming your ISP for going online on wifi with 200ms
Honestly the real problem is that we know for a fact that they already have the solution and could literally solve it all in a dayThe very nature of the problem means they've had a working version since day 1They're just making us suffer because fuck you
>Killing my own game>As a joke
>>578004697sure removing spyware will fix a lot but broken matchmaking seems unrelated and unsolved
>>577993916>I hope they give everyone a shit ton of costumesI doubt we will unless Marvel pays Arcsys for it, as Cygames did with GBFV. Also, after doing some digging around, some Marvel characters have way more options than others in the game.
Why are all the niggers the best characters in the game?
>>578006440Khamala bros...
>>578006440I don't think Peni's that bad
Are Iron Man's combos as hard as they sound with all the dash/flight cancels
>>578007793She is compared to everyone else who's a killer.
>>578006440Loki coulda been so good if they didn't make half his shit wiff on hit
>>578007868nah
>>578007868deceptively easy the flight cancels basically do themselves
And recommended teammates for storm? What position is she best played in?
Why is sonicfox downplaying goblin?
>>578009560Gobby has a ton of actual weaknessesHe just has really strong strengths. He's not well rounded enough to be top 5 but he's probably right below that.
>>578009560Everybody above goblin can be played anywhere on the team and be good Gobby literally NEEDS someone to play neutral for him
>Can Opener AND Paragon at the same timeWhich one to watch brehs
https://youtu.be/v1EJGNI0Mq8Man can't be stopped
>>578009560If you get caught in neutral with Goblin by a top tier you're going to get rekt
DeadShitGame
i get more lag and rollback frames against console players than i do against other pc playersfaggots need to get better internet
>>578018863I'd be more inclined to think that's an issue of crossplay not working well if they're at 5 bars on ethernet, especially if it's sticking at 8 rollback frames.
i've never seen a company remove easyantijew after they latched it onto a game. its probably stuck like this
If PC is the majority and it only peaks at 4k, then at most there's only 8k people playing this game? People spent $60 for this?
>>578019146wonder if Snoy even gives a fuck, since they're going full anti PC
>>578019146Yeah but at least the game's files are well-protected.
>>578019146PC is not the majority for this game exactly because everyone was saying that the port was crap.
>>578019213
we need more women.
>>578019461We need Boom Boom
>>578019309>only 485k totalSeems like PS5 sold as usual but PC got 90% refunded which is an issue when PC is the bigger platformInvincibleVS had 1 million week 1
>>578019550what's her deal? i'm not really familiar.
Can you block as soon as you active tag in?
>>578020901She's just a fun character overallshe's kinda of an airhead that likes to annoy people and blow things up but is also a great fighter when needed
>>578022581that sounds cool. i'm into the idea of someone like her or Jubilee cause i'd like to see them fight like Bakugo from MHA. just a combination of brawling and blasting.
>>578019550>like dazzler's assWhat about the X-gene gives you a dumptruck ass?
I'd tag with Magik if you get my drift
Are Deadpool's secret moves required to play the character optimally?
So this have been found. DBFZ welcome backhttps://xcancel.com/dylnyan/status/2089946594909303152
>>578029061They're just the same as his regular super but with different animations aren't they?
>>578029146Seems like a bug.
>>578020901Mutant who can make explosions (specifically balls of plasma that she can set a timer to explode with concussive force) and can re-absorb the energy if needed. Differs from Jubilee's powerset in the fact that Jubilee's powers are just blasts of pure energy and light. If Jubilee goes "full power" she can generate enough light + energy to mimic sunlight AND cause explosions at a sub-atomic level. She does this in an X-Terminators comic series where she takes out a shit ton of vampires looking to feast on her and several other female X-Men members (X-23/Wolverine, Dazzler, and Boom-Boom).
I love my D-tier wives
>>578030757marvel is waaaay weaker than peni for sure, at least peni has pendulum as a nice blockstring mix marvel has nothing but a seeable overhead
If I play the cracked version can I transfer my save to the real game when they fix it?
>>578031376>when they fix it
>>578006440Cagebros... we'll be top tier when we get in, right?
>>578033034Luke Cage should be the Haggar function of Tokon, fuck it.
so no patches for 2 weeks? hello?
>>578033456It's working as intended.
I wish Loki's 22H swapped sides in the corner.
Is Deapool, Goblin, Mag, and Danger a good team?
>>578003053Game got moved forward actually thats why. Im sure ArcSys crunched the fuck out with Playstations support studio XDev but PC port in that scenario became afterthought and they wanted console build polished for release. Tokons comic tie-in literally states that game was supposed to come out "this fall" which in quartal releases describes late September and further. Sony moved the game to August due to all the shit releasing in September including Wolverine and then GTA6.
>>578034128Goblin and Magneto are good in the second and third slots respectively, Deadpool doesn't seem the best but he seems decent and you probably want him on point if you're using him at all. Danger seems weak but I do at least think her back assist is good.
>>578034261Yea dp point, gob shooter, mag vertical, and danger assault is the exact order. Im kinda struggling to find a point for this team ngl but I dont want to be gay and play Spiderman
>>578033456There was a patch a week ago nigga
>>577992769>>577992932$ONY: How about we nerf PC instead? Buy a PS5, you peasants. Come at me, bro
I'm sick of seeing this disgusting white Carnage
>>577987627I straight up can't play Wolverine because of it. All the other returning characters either play totally different (magneto) or at least got cool shit (spidey's swings, zips, and pulls). Wolvy just feels lame as fuck
I'm surprised magneto is still so popular with the fgc.They do remember he's a jew right?
>>578038845Yeah but he holds up his hands behind his head and a limo flies in behind him and crashes on his oppoenent, which is cool.
>>578038845He's a villain jew
so, Deadpool raw WGF allows for some TOD routeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT22CmM0DKkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHE1n43fGushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA3kokHZKQs
>>578031376Please respond
rage quit into game crashcount your days sony
>>578040027Is that the kind of move you'll even hit raw?
>>578042693No one can know anon. We don't know if they'll just make the game playable on potatoes with the DRM, without it or whatever.
Put in Cloak and Dagger.
where can I find combos
niggas will do auto combos do only forward tech while mashing and have the balls to alt f4
>>5780439422 chars in one will always be kino, make dagger a zoner and cloak brawler
>>578043949This channel seems alright just to get some basic oneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz-xnCPlnFU
>>577992769I just pirated the game. What's the point of the "modern" special inputs? And is there a wiki with combos like equivalent to Dustloop or do I have to join some discord?
>>578044028I mostly just can't believe how many people ragequit and one and done in this considering the matchmaking, you'd think peopel would be grateful for a match when hey get one.
>>577994993Unless I'm missing something, he can't combo with his 623H, the drop out after reaching the max height before the additional projectiles hit.
>>578044571thanks
>>578043538Ah, thank you for answering friend
>>578044984It just makes some shit easier I use a mix
>>578043537it is an antiair, but the chances of it landing are relatively low, also you need to have some grey health to do a WGF. I just wanted to test how much damage I can get, as this move raw initial damage is on the higher side compared to M normals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuNdqFIfCwkill sony
>>578043537just mash it in neutral with an assist
>>578051607yeah my pc runs it fine but fuck all the retarded defenders
>>578054828Rivals does NOT look like that
>fuck up the PC port by adding in mountains of DRM>it still gets mods and cracked within 2 weeksWhat were they thinking?
>>578055059>hurr durr line go up
>black magik has more fanart than stormlmfao
>>578055059Probably not much beyond "piracy bad, lose sales"
Ultimately the problems were caused by low single core clock speeds, so really the poor third worlder laptop cpus are still the main culprit here I don't see how you can blame sony.
>>578056228Nah, they were thinking: "more sales for the PS version will reinforce the idea that we were correct about abandoning the PC to the investors". They have already stated their intention to stop with the PC ports, so it would be really awkward to try to defend such a decision to investors if the PC version sold better than the PS one. The actual success of the game is of little importance to them, since any failure can always be scapecoated to the developer making a bad game, whereas the failure of a policy set by the PS execs has no similar scapegoat, thus defending the policy is more important than making the game successful. >>578057117Poor thirld worlder laptops run the game better as old CPUs often have higher single core clock speeds. My over 10 year old PC runs the game fine, but then you have people with way beefier rigs being unable to run the game at a stable framerate, that is completely on Sony. If upgrading your setup has a high chance to making the game run worse, not better, then something has gone terribly wrong and the fault does not lie in the consumer. Additionally crashes are not acceptable no matter how shit your hardware is.
>>578057384Don't respond honestly to bait like that next time
>>578058267But... but honesty is the best policy... isn't it?
incredible that sony literally just blew up this game for no good reason. it's that simple. there's no depth.
>>578058840>for no good reasonWell, they had a reason, whether or not it qualifies as good I guess depends on if you are a Sony executive or not.
>another day of no Comms
>>578060627What do you expect them to say?"Sorry the Sony SDK fucks PC performance sideways, we've removed it"?
>>578061027Anything but radio silence
>>578061027yes actuallythe game got modded and pirated and they know it by now
>>578061481If you think Sony is ever going to acknowledge that a game was cracked you're nutsArcSys did what they could to minimize CPU requirements but there's only so much they can do with the game itself and they don't have any influence on the Sony SDK. I honestly can't imagine a scenario where the SDK itself actually gets updated to a point where it runs well.
>60fpslmaooo
>>578061704How does the game recover from thisThe DRM is never getting removed
>>578061704>1650I'm not surprised when a 970 crushes it to the point low settings make the game CPU-limited on native 1080p, no scaling
>>578061704How is this suprising? Game is massively CPU bound and its not just about DRM and Sonys PSN overlay but game itself is for some unknown reason. All of that combined makes PC performance so ass and its one of the most CPU bound titles released in last couple of years.
>>578063260it's literally only the drm please stop talking about shit you don't know
>>578063260>its not just about DRM and Sonys PSN overlay but game itself is for some unknown reasonI'm on a fuckin' gen 2 and the cracked version runs great despite only a mild overclock, at worst I get some drops then the camera moves up on Champion's stage.As long as your single-core speed is good you won't have any problems.
Was the DRM a last minute addition that wasn't thoroughly tested?
>>578064625More likely an imposition from Sony
I can’t believe Sony put Arcsys in the cuck cage with the DRM.
>>577993916I hope they have cute back and forths like this between each other in game
>>578069795seems unlikely considering the entire thing with phoenix cyclops is that he's at his peak "militant asshole" phase now mixed with godlike power and the delusions that come with
My team is Deadpool, Shuri, Magneto and Wolverine but I have no idea what the best order should be, any help?
>>578070596>replies immediately flooded telling them to remove the DRMlol
>top 1 Magik player name is "Cum Inside Games"
>>578070596another bandaid patch
Why is every autocombo string safeWhy is every Magik button fullscreenThis might be the worst fighting game I have ever played in my life
I thought Street Fighter 6 was bad in terms of losing to gorilla niggers but holy shitRefunded
>>578070596I'm huffing the hopium bros
>>578071442>Why is every autocombo string safeThe fuck are you talking about, the autocombo enders are extremely unsafe.
>>578071849No they aren't
>>578071586for all of the shit people say about SF6 being consistent at that game still requires fundamentals and the ability to sit still and play reactively when there's no reason for you to go inmost fighting games just aren't about that shit lol
Is there no way to pull someone's steam profile from your match history?>>578072073SF6 isn't a bad game at all, it sucks below 1600MR but if you're at that level you're a subhuman anyway
>>578071442>>578071849Autocombos being safe or not depends on the character, Spider-Man for example is fully safe on light but all the rest of the amazing guardians can be punished for the same autocombo, and just about everyone seems to be interruptible or punishable in mediums or heavies
>>578072827Absolutely terrible game
>>578070596pls godi just want a working fucking game. faggots. i don't even play online because of this shit.
>>578070596Last patch fixed 90% of the issues. I believe this will make it perfect.
>>578072909Because you were wrong?
>>578073243No, you just verified that I was rightFucking fat nosed retard
>>578073290nta but yeah you're an actual retard
>gameplay adjustmentsThey can't be nerfing and buffing characters this soon surely, neutral assist cool down being adjusted maybe? Or that thing that was discovered where you could do tiger knee inputs to get free assists in combos getting patched out could be what they're doing
Medium Heavy Heavy Tag AssistMedium Heavy Heavy Tag AssistMedium Heavy Heavy Tag AssistMedium Heavy Heavy Super80%
>>578072827Actually it turns out I'm not even right about Spider-Man being safe, it's just that you need very specific moves to punish him since despite being -15 he gets flung back most of a screen. Anyone with a fast projectile like a beam super or a fast advancing special can punish it but it's the kind of thing you have to actually lab instead of just trying to mash on it in a match.
>>578070596Thank God for matchmaking being addressed
>>578073129You're an idiot if you believe thatThe crack made it clear that Sony SDK is the problem
i almost want to download the crack to lab, i don't want to risk my CPU on the spyware version of the game
If they did remove the drm stuff would they even address it in a patch?
>>578081445nah it would be quietly removed like denuvo is
Is there no hope left?
I hope this is going to be the game that finally teaches me how to fucking hitconfirm consistently.
https://x.com/i/status/2089607898514985236The only good part of tokon is that Penis Parker is back on the menuI'm also partial to petra parker but you all have shit taste so i'll keep it all to myself
>>578083125petra is cringejessica is kino
>>578083451well shes not really the same thing is it, being a literal clone is a different story entirely
>x.com
Literally whenever i open leffen's stream he's angry and complaining about something.How can you be rich and playing games for a living and be this mad all the time? Wtf is this dude's problem? I did hear his Korean dad was a convicted rapist or something
>>578054828She's cute in the old x-men jumpsuit
Gwen when?
>>578081751Not for pc
>>578084759Caucasoid European Male rage. You find this shit in every game popular in europe, some streamer who thinks he's gods gift to Deadlock or some shit. Leffen is an exception only because he's well known in America
I want to play the game but I can't because of the crashes patch the game already
>>578086158Leffen is neither a Caucasoid nor European.
https://x.com/i/status/2090038138831876117Sony...
>>578088352>Arcsys was making a fighting game that works on low end hardware, per usual>>Sony forces bullshit DRM and Anticheat that they don't know how to integrate I'm assuming this was all a last minute decision and thats why the PC performance is such hot ass
Not playing until Miles and Luke Cage are added
snake eyez bros..
>>578088731umm best I can do is Spider Gwen and Jessica Jones
>>578088731bendis......
>>578088985we call him rog eyez now after his chimp out earlierhttps://www.youtube.com/live/q2Pqoat43BU?t=4860
>>578088709>I'm assuming this was all a last minute decision and thats why the PC performance is such hot assI'm assuming that it was a provision by Sony that was there right at the start, but ArcSys thought they could just slap it on top of a finished product and have it work without realizing how fucking awful this software is. Remember that ArcSys is extremely tech-illiterate and incompetent when it comes to coding despite being developers.
>>578002380stop modding as whole (they failed)the naked Chun-Li still lives rent free in every publisher's head
this makes a lot of sense actually
>>578054828You have to love how Midnight Suns had such abhorrent writing on the back-end that virtually no one remembers of references Magik being in that game. Gives me solace knowing that the writers using licenses like Marvel as a platform for their own terrible fanfiction went on to make the next Civ game just as terrible with their awful decision making. The quality of the fruit of their talent is evidence evidence enough that you don't have to wish ill on any of them. A round of layoffs hit Firaxis after the poor receiving of Midnight Suns. Then it happened again when Civ VII actively failed to retain numbers. How do you mess up making attractive people wear revealing clothing, be friendly to one another and save the day? Everyone wants to complicate the formula but it ain't hard.
>>578056182idgi storm is hot as shit
>>578092695>How do you mess up making attractive people wear revealing clothing, be friendly to one another and save the day? Everyone wants to complicate the formula but it ain't hard.At the last second Marvel said no romantic relationships allowed
>>578088731>Luke CageBased and add his bro Danny too.>MilesCringe nigger cockroach kys.
>>578073673I'm already to a point where if a match has two or more mirrors then I just leave. What's the point of watching Blade on either side of the screen performing variations of his mix and teleporting everywhere? There's nothing interesting to glean there aside from potential tech. >>578093095Midnight Suns had too many narrative failings. Too many characters have the same voice. A romance option wouldn't have been very fulfilling. Besides the devs never made it so that you can walk around in your swimsuit. There are no shorts or skirts or dresses or anything for characters to wear in-game. Very anemic and sanitized aesthetic-wise. The game also gives you way too much dialogue. The core gameplay loop is basic and takes up maybe like 10% of what the engine can do so imagine a game filling up the rest of that space with writing.Some members of the team that were let go when Midnight Suns failed tried to go on to create their own little indie game. They crapped out a concept and then the game died before it could launch. I feel like that's the narrative equivalent of the enjoyment one can get from this game. If you buy into the setting that this is how these characters operate then it can be kinda pleasant. However if you've anything beyond a passing familiarity with these characters then everyone being OOC is otherwise too jarring. It's like a group of friends merely roleplaying as opposed to someone actually studying and trying to get a character and a tone down. Caretaker sucks. Lillith definitely sucks. >she's a villain>but not really lol>she could kill you guys so super hard>but she won't lol :)She's someone mother issues and trauma dumping wrapped into an unstoppable OC who wraps the entire story around her finger only to deliver nothing of worth or note. It's like the meme>You've been sentenced to read 1000 pages of contemporary diaspora literature written by asian-american womenThere is no actual story. It's just tumblr CW bait.
sucks the gameplay issues won't be discussed until they fix this piece of shit pc port
Only marvel black guy i care about is Blade and he's already in the game
>>578095539didn't they say literally gameplay changes in the last update
>>578095539There are no gameplay issues in Marvel Tokon, only skill issues.
>>578095795brother i input throw my guy walks
>>578095781They said gameplay adjustments which can mean anything from adding push block to just fixing bugs like free assists mid combo
Is Doom alright on point or is he just a support in this game? I know K7 plays him on point, or did at CEO, and SonicFox had him pretty high up in his tier list, but what's his best position?
Wanna take bets spider-nigger's getting nerfed?
>>578098975I always put him on down assist. i really despise his back assist, its just hidden missiles but useless
>>578099451Year next year
>>578098975you're either zoning with him and converting off stray hits or setting up the next character to tag into for mix, he kinda works anywhere except the laser assault assist is lacking compared to others that give immediate fullscreen long blockstun imo, I had him on point initially and moved him to down assist when I got tired of his gameplan
>>578099451chill on spider nigger, the high low is fun. kill the sword characters first
>>578100314nothing is fun about 5H the char
This patch is actually arcsys last chance
>>578099451doubt it, probably just bug fixes
>you just got knocked down>you open your eyes and this is what you seewhat do you doyou have half a second to act
dar chyl
>>578103261she's gonna give me a darkchyld
are there any other characters besides hulk and peni that have high blockstun specials
>>578104019for use with active tag? carnage's grounded 214x puts them in blockstun for a good second
ts dead already
>started learning storm>can just do whatever the fuck i want with her projectiles when combining them with tempest and opponents have to hold itis this not extremely broken
how the fuck do i even do anything online. very very new to fighting games.i just keep getting cornered and always fail to punish blocks and shit.like i do a single mistake and 60% of my health is gone.how do i learn to at least win a round?
>>578105613>very very new to fighting gamesthe only thing you can do is keep trying and acclimate naturally, no secret saucelook up some easy to do combos for your character and try to land them in a match rather than focusing on winning, can be funif a specific move is fucking you put that character in the lab and check the frame data on it, but usually you can just think of it as either "I cannot press a button after I block that" or you can
I want to practice block strings. What do I set the training dummy to in training mode?
>>578105956under Recording, On Block put standing light with no delaymaybe Assemble Counter too if you want an actual tight blockstring
>>578105956block first hit and set them the counterattack with standing L (or 4L+A assemble counter since it's 1f) so you can guarantee your strings are gapless and can't be mashed out of
>>578045110Just try out 5M 2M 22L 623H 8 jM 214M in training mode
>>578106063>>578106103Thanks it’s the next thing I need to practice and I’ve never been good at messing with training mode.
>>578070596>It's not PC specific and has nothing for performanceHmmmmYeah it aint getting fixed
>>578054986'vals 'gik is the ugliest
The difference between how people play a character before and after Clayton plays them and posts combo is palpable but of course nobody will ever admit they got their combos from him.
>>578070596>beta patch did nothing>emergency patch did nothingnot gonna fool me
>failed survival again
>>578107220the patch after launch reduced my CPU usage by a solid 20-30% and now the game never drops frames however
>>578105175yup back to sf6 shaqunfortunatelyshaking my head at sony
>>578107178FGC hates clayton because he's white.
What're the chances we even get pc optimization fixes this patch, let alone them being good enough
>>578109573we already got all the "optimizations" we're going to get. it's been proven that theia drm is the problem and that's unlikely to get yoinked out of the game
Doesn't DBFZ also use Theia
>>578109573There is no optimization left besides removing the encryption
>>578109818it has EAC but no theia
>>578109573The optimization was the cracked version that dropped within two weeks, completely invalidating all their DRM they shoved in to try to prevent piracy which wound up ruining the official release.
https://x.com/i/status/2090178928484995547https://x.com/i/status/2090163205637054919https://x.com/i/status/2089922177877319716funny how all it took was a single nigga with jungle fever typing: make Magik black and give her golden hoop earrings
more important question will matchmaking work or this the beginning of another 2 year zipperheads vs IT struggle
>>578109841>>578109818for the last fucking timethe cracked copy is still JIT decryptedthat shit doesn't matter for performance past initial asset loading, once it's in RAM it's fine.The problem is the Sony SDK.
>>578110114>shills swore up and down it wasn't the EAC or Sony SDK and was actually your PCKEK, how are they gonna spin it this time?
dead dogshit game that's dogshit even when it works
>>578110979They're going to ignore it like they have for days nowThis game when cracked runs on any 3.5Ghz or faster processor and a fuckin' GTX 1650.The game when uncracked chugs on literally any machine for mysterious compatibility reasons and won't even start if you have a driver they don't like installed.
>>578110251you're simply wrong. the sony SDK exists in plenty of other games and doesn't have any measurable CPU impact. it's the DRM
>>578113089>exists in plenty of other gamesLike?
>>578113458Helldivers 2 had it on launch, all Sony first party titles (spooderman, dad of war, etc), and I believe Stellar Blade had them also
>>5781114542nd this
>>578113693>Helldivers 2 had it on launchDidn't that one get removed in under a couple days>all Sony first party titles (spooderman, dad of war, etc)A good chunk of them also have horrible optimization and take months to be better, iirc Spider-Man 1 was an exception
What do I use ghost riders unique attack where he’s just spinning the chains? Is that shit useful outside of trying to do some swaggy looking combo? Also when should I use the down+unique attack where he’s like flames on
>>578113904>A good chunk of them also have horrible optimizationnah only spider man 2 was poorly optimized out of that bunch. and it's GPU heavy not CPU heavy. ironically enough none of those games are as CPU intensive as Tokon. which is insane
The quality of the game goes down a hill the second you start playing on a wallbreakless stage
>>578114019Until dawn was pretty dogshit on launchThe Last of Us remakes are still shit
>>578108081Doom at 80 boss fight is so fucking annoying dude. He blocks every fucking thing you do and all his moves just fucking beats yours even if you press the button before he does his normal, shits frustrating. I heard blade is even more a bitch apparently
>>578113980In theory you would use them to lower your bar when it gets into the red zone so you don't overheatIn practice you basically can't get red zone in the first place unless you're playing retarded and you'll be using the U attacks in combos anyway because they're more damage.
>>578114170iunno I didn't play them. i only played tlou1 forever ago when it first came out on console and thought it sucked ass
comboslop is so boring nigga I raped you 20 times but I only get stray hits but you practiced your gay lil nigga shit so you kill me
>>578115286>person that practiced more than me beat mewaaaah waaah nigga
>>578115660enjoy your dead uninstalled game LOL I'm already playing a good game bitch ass LOSER LOL
>>577998202Ive jsut been playing open lobbies until they fix ranked and its fun, only bugmen obsessed with rank numbers are mad about this.
>>578019461jubliee would be kino, didnt know they transed hawkeye.
>>578115286you're bitch made.>>578116067you don't know Kate Bishop? she had a Disney+ series and was in Zombies. i didn't watch her series but i at least know of her.
>>578115780trying too hard
>>578116320no I dont watch disney sloppa and I think I stopped halfway through zombies, I just read old scans of ASM and uncanny xmen.
>>578116674that's fair. loli think we'll get girl Thor or girl Hawkeye instead of their regular male counterparts because both their male counterparts were in Marvel vs Capcom.
https://x.com/i/status/2090189016675008952
>>578113089>reality is wrong!The cracked copy worksThe cracked copy doesn't have any altered files, just goldberg and an exe, meaning all the assets are still encryptedTherefore the problem is not the encryption, it is the Sony SDK and EAC.If you have any actual information to add be my guest, but "uhhh nah IDK I still think it's Theia" is fucking useless.
>>578119410>it is the Sony SDK and EACthis is easily disprovable by other games having these things and neither affecting performancemeanwhile this game has a layer of DRM that no other game has and it runs significantly worse than any other game that has the SDKs or EAC. your conclusion to blame either is completely illogical
>>578119643>this is easily disprovable by other games having these things and neither affecting performanceAnon that's not how software worksYou're fucking retarded.
>>578119713yes it is exactly how software worksprove to me that the sony SDKs are nearly doubling the CPU usage of this game
>>578119789>prove that it's the Sony SDK and/or EAC!Ok>>578119410The cracked copy worksThe cracked copy removed Sony SDK and EAC but not encryptionWhat now, dipshit?
>>578119789>yes it is exactly how software worksNo, no it isn't, the Sony SDK used in Tokon isn't the same version as the others and we have no idea what features each of those games actually used in the SDK or how they were implemented.Stop being such an idiot.
>>578119847see exactly, you can't. you literally do not know how software works and you're trying to lecture me on how software works like a mongoloid.many other games also have the sony SDKs and don't have these CPU usage issues. those very same games get cracked and don't have the sony SDKs afterwards and don't use any less CPU. games with EAC can be easily bypassed by modifying the exe -- again no reduction in CPU usage.you can literally dissect on a base level, with tools, what is using your CPU threads, and the sony SDKs do nothing. you have no leg to stand on, you're just a tech illiterate moron connecting dots that don't exist>>578120031>No, no it isn't, the Sony SDK used in Tokon isn't the same version as the otherssource?again, refer to above
>>578120180
>>578120310yes it's easier to call me stupid than to admit you're wrong, I know. FYI the initially cracked version of tokon still requires the PSN SDKs to be installed, so this entire argument was moot and you're a retard.
>>578070441Probably Wolverine, Deadpool, Black Panther, Magneto. All of Magneto's assists are good and Black Panther's vertical assist is great so they make sense in the back two spots, I think Wolverine has bad assists and you want him on point if you're using him at all. Deadpool has an okay shooter assist but I think he's mostly a point character too, but I think having two characters you're comfortable with on point isn't a bad idea anyway so you can switch between them freely while benefiting from however they synergize from tagging each other in and out.
>>578120638>the initially cracked version of tokon still requires the PSN SDKs to be installedThere's only one crack and it absolutely does not need the PSN SDK installed
>PirateGODs getting a better experience than paypigs as usual
>>578121214there are 2 cracks actually. RUNE's crack uses fully decrypted files and bypasses theia, and the original crack just uses a steam app id trick to get it working with steam running in the background with EAC still uppicrel, source. you would think the very crackers cracking the game would be enough to shut people up about EAC and the SDKs but idk you guys are just retarded i guess
When magneto has all that junk on the screen, what is it for and what does it do?
eberybody be mashing on wakeup and during hitstun
>>578121214That's plain wrong, there is two cracks the first one was awful and barely worked.
tried to compile most of sonicfox and his friend's opinions from the tier list videohttps://pastebin.com/9T48DXSNgoes in video order so weakest to strongest on the tier list
>>578122869>compiled downplayers opinionsbut why
>>578123042sonicfox doesn't downplay
>>578122869it's gonna be funny watching everyone go from bitching about spidey to bitching about storm in like 1 month
>>578122869this is exactly what I wanted on my Wednesday night listening to sonicfox
>>578122869>loki's assists are bad>they're literally all just better versions of cap's assists, who doesn't get a bad assist moniker?
>>578122869>a gay fur black and his presumably insufferable friendswhy would you do this?
>>578070441>>578121040Also, if you have an easy to confirm projectile, Magneto in back and a projectile vertical assist you can do a route like this. Maybe Wolverine can do more damage at the end, I don't know, I don't play him, and I wouldn't say Deadpool has the easiest to confirm projectile in the game but it's not bad.
>>578124191don't fall behind
>>578123214storm is an ACTUAL problem, spidey is one nerf away from being cap tier.
Do you think being able to quit > retry the 100 floor challenge is intentioanl?
>>578126460No, but who cares, people just do it for the colors.
>>578122869>lil nigga is this butthurt about jwonggg nearly clowning himstorm's 50/50 is theoretical, even top players will drop it occasionally not even factoring in tournament nerves. Goblin's corner oki is braindead easy in comparison
>>578121040>>578124539Thanks for the advice anon!
what's up with input reader eating your stuff
>>578091963Hulk and Champion fucking suck on point but tagged in at the right moment they're the scariest characters in the game
This one is for the /co/ fags. For mutants I may be wrong but their powers is just Human DNA going haywire like growing angel wings or blue skin etc. and that makes sense. But how the hell does your DNA allow you to control stuff outside your body like the weather and creating demon portals? I might be thinking too hard about this but it always sort of bothered me what classifies as a mutant.
why did people say danger cant use her hoverdash to get quick overheads when you totally can>>578128463the same way we can use radioactivity to turn a guy into a big strong hulk or spiderman or the fantastic four, magic is just kind of real and even physics and science don't line up 1-1 with our world so having a special gene in your bloodline enables you to be a conduit for all kinds of weird shitmost mutants are like a DND sorcerer
>>578128463something something the x-gene is result of celestial (godlike beings) engineering they can handwave explanations like saying their bodies sinthesizes proteins that allow them to convert energy to do shit but at the end it's just pic related
>>578128828If you just tap dash and press a button with Danger that button will whiff, which is unusual compared to most hoverdash characters where they would get an overhead off of that.
>>578129003you just have to delay it very very slightly and you can still do that no problem, isn't that how morrigan and i-no have to do it if they want to actually convert into anything anyway? it's pretty funny how easily she activates the games "no rising overheads" rule that exists so hulk and champ can actually play the game cuz they learned their lesson from dbz but you still get something noticeably faster then an IAD off her dash and you can even do cool autocorrect crossups if you dash over their head
>>578129507I don't know about Morrigan, but I-No's overheads feel significantly faster than Danger's.
>>578127525>storm's 50/50 is theoreticalthis makes no sense
>>578116834>i think we'll get girl Thor0 chance of such a thing happening, if it is any alternative to Thor it'll be Beta Ray Bill, but likely it'll just be Thor.>but muh ShuriMovie tie-in. Thor is still Thor in MCU. Jane showed up for one movie no one liked, just like no one liked her comic run either.
tokon bros theres hope
>>578130606If they reversed course on how that game's being handled on PC or some technical issues, then I might say there's hope, but that's about the actual design of the game.
>spiderman does a backflip kick 180% forward for his vert assist>hits behind him somehow>deadpool literally spins 360 with two swords for his>does not him behind him somehowyeah this shit is rigged. there's not realizing the character you've made and then there's blatant favoritism
snoy game = spiderman is never getting nerfedaccept him already
damn i wonder what could have happened there
I really enjoy Peni, but I'm having a hard time confirming 2M2H into j.214M. I've just been going straight into 623M for a more consistent combo, but that kinda makes me burn assist early. What BNB starters do you guys use?
https://x.com/whizthesugoi/status/2090172132831469749Tokon might have been the most performance friendly fighting game in modern era. ArcSys really outdone themselves. I hope this teach them to never work with Sony again
What reason do PC players have to license the game from Sony when the unlicensed version runs better and on more platforms and regions?
>>578133983I want to play online.
>>578134074Unlicensed does that better
>>578134074Then play online? The cracked version has better online play than the steam version.
I'm convinced these retards shilling the cracked version are just trying really hard to recruit people to their discord with barely a dozen people. No I'm not joining your tranny secret club to play over fucking parsec when the game runs perfectly fine on my pc.
>>578134289>>578134640You can't play online with the cracked version.
>>578134824>he doesn't know
>>578135073I shan't be falling for your low effort bait nor shall I will be downgrading my online experience to playing the same 3 people on discord through parsec (delay based netcode)
>>578135236>You can't play online with the cracked version.>you actually can
>>578135236crackers can play with other crackers
>>578135928Only through parsec, all actual online functionality requires PSN unfortunately
Game director confirms that by battle adjustments they just mean bug fixes, not balance changes.
>>578136219>actual online functionalityThat is actual online functionality.
>>578136749It's not.
>hey gringo go play in wack delay netcode in wifi with me it runs better honestna
>>578137250>it functions onlineTardfag.
>>578134805It can also be linuxfags desperate to have people to play with them
>>578137558"Functions" is a stretch.
why do japanese people like carnage GR and loki so much? feels like every nip i watch has at least one of these in the team
>>578137920how i'd describe pc port
>>578137921mix and high damage combos I guess. carnage mix is overrated though, it's so slow and telegraphed that you're basically never gonna hit anyone with the jH or empty jump 2L but you will occasionally catch people with the held jH jM
>>578137921they're very anime but also don't suck like peni and danger
Best controller : DS4 or Dualsense?
>>578141435dualsense just sucks. ds4 requires a mod to stop its dpad from breaking.
>>578140283I thought japs ate up penis
>>578137921they're based
>>578142998Sure, on pixiv
>>578143284I see
>>578136437Balance changes this early would be strange anyway, I think that was expected.
>>578141435DS4 is good, Dualsense is awful. I started using a Hori Figthinig Commander just so I would be able to use something other than Dualsense if I was ever playing on a PS5.
>>578089206>singular desk slam>calmly says he's going to end stream>beats the guy and does exactly thati wouldn't call that a chimpout
I feel like Ironman is really underrated as a pount. People use him as a shooter assist 99% of the time but on point his zoning helps him win nuetral and slight setplay with missile i feel helps set up characters like GG who could be on shooter then you swap and still get to have Ironmans beam assist.
come back to sf6
>ok so for this new game we're making, it's like a tag fighter but you're encouraged to constantly shuffle around your team order instead of just having a dedicated point and assist charactercool>anyway here's this character named loki, all 3 of his assists are horrible so you never want him as an assist???
>>578145059I was never at SF6.
>>578145059nyo.
>>578144941I agree, he's good, but I don't think he's as good as the game's stronger characters.
>>578145353I think his shooter is okay, if outclassed, and his assault assist seems like it could be okay but I haven't messed around with it much.
>>578146125his shooter would be ok if it didn't curve downwards so it just whiffs in situations/combos that literally any other generic ass projectile assist wouldn't, and his assault doesn't work as a counter because you can just keep hitting buttons to stuff the clone and doesn't work as a big + frames assist because it takes too damn long
combo theory in this game is so fun, i've been working out how to add in a couple ex specials to my big corner combo on cap and it just feels like a puzzle to be solved. really satisfying,
>>578145059I'll when Tifa is on the menu.
>>578134074You can't do that on the official version anyway. It takes 15 minutes to find a match, most of the console playerbase has already blocked crossplay, and the PC playerbase is dropping off a cliff.
>>578153026>most of the console playerbase has already blocked crossplaywhy
>>5781530938 rollback frames too many.
>>578145059There's a conspiracy among fighting game developers to sabotage their games so SF6 can thrive uncontested it's not organically possible otherwise
>>578153093Because the PC version dropping frames makes the match unplayable even on consoles.
Goooood morning, Tokuck warriors!
>I'm your master now!
Even if out of the blue they announced >"We're very sorry for the inconvenience we've worked with our publisher Sony and determined the best course of action to improve the PC port is to remove the PSN integration and anti cheat measures"and the game runs perfectly, it still wouldn't save the game at this point. And that's 100% not going to happen anyway. Just feels like shit.
>>578166072I don't know, I think that would go a long way. It just seems so unlikely that even setting aside anything about the game's performance, it would earn a lot of goodwill about how they're approaching the game, I think.
sony 10-0'd arcsys
daisuke and pachi on their knees blindfolded slobbering on herman hulst's bwc, mori walks in for a visit to see how the trinity update is going - he is shocked and turns to leave, but the door has already been locked...
let me guess the cracked version also never crashes because of windows updates
>>578129838Ino can barely covert off anything to be fair
Anyone got a link to the cracked Tokon?
Japan with the Peni x Carnage ryona??!?! Das OD!
>>578107178>>578108316https://youtu.be/VPeZaEO0c_sI've noticed after his Iron man, Magneto, and Storm videos multiple other tech lords on twitter started posting the same route ideas like clockwork. Every single game this happens istg.
>>578180135his combos are horrible he always starts them from some dogshit starter like pointblank 2M 214B or raw 214A
>>578180284https://youtu.be/i1zAOA0xXoYlmfao rent free. Clayton once again has the best combos in the game and it's not even close.
>>578180812>first combo is from raw charged 5Hbruh
>>578181230Clayton shows off multiple different ways to start combos, and you are complaining. Just admit it, it's another game, and Clayton is the gold standard once again.
Damn hook https://x.com/TokonFighters/status/2090452826660937939
>>578186736>people finding out about the deadpool restandthey weren't supposed to know...
>>578186736>>578187943What do you mean? Explain. I see the combo reseted and got hit but how?
>>578001867We literally know that the PC port is fine and its being caused by the DRM. There's nothing anybody can do to fix the official version beyond the devs. And its actually insane to me that I spent all that time tuning that fucking PC version knowing none of it mattered because it can run right out of the box with the cracked version.God, its pure sabotage.
>>578002380They don't want people to do whatever they want with their games for some stupid fucking reason. DOA6LR only exists because people were able to get around the massive amounts of DLC and more importantly, they can put in characters that were taken out of the game like with DOA5 with Mai.This pisses them off for some reason.
>>578034180But the game actually works. The PC port is fine. Its the fucking PSN shit.
You guys should really stop. Don't you notice that this "unofficial cracked version" proves exactly why it's absolutely essential to use more anti-tampering software? If you want better performance, blame piracy, not the developers and publishers. They have the right to protect their work.
How I been moving in tokon tbdesu
>>578190825Got to Vibranium but got no motivation to play because this game seems like on the verge of actually becoming a discord fighter
I love Danger so much
>>578194647
>>578196829
>>578197394lots of Penis leadersKayos probably woke everyone up to her
>>578197625Yeah she isn't that bad once you use the broken assists for better neutral, she has good blockstrings and mix
idk who to pick for the 4th or the general order on my starlord/blade/magik team.before you start throwing shit at the screen, I only picked those 3 because they're the equivalent to my dante/vergil from mvc3, who I picked because I own 6 different copies of dmc3
>>578197625I think she might have the best movement in the game next to Spiderman. Or maybe it's just the people in diamond rank are bad at shutting her down
Tokon wonhttps://www.riotgames.com/en/news/2xko-active-development-ends-december-2026
>>578201698*pic of sony ceo*heh..not so fast
>>578197394>https://x.com/TokonFighters/status/2090452826660937939How come so few Goblino lead?
>>578197394doom sucks so bad even though hes a good character on paper
>>578202926Because most Goblin mains use him as "secondary", aka they get a hit in neutral then instantly switch to Goblin and only play him from then.
>>578202926Because he's a mix machine, but his neutral isn't particularly great. Much better to play a neutral god as point and then switch to Gobs when you get a combo for the mix.
>>578201698Will the roster go down in history as the worst possible roster considering the source they were working with? Atleast MvCI had the excuse of not being allowed to use the really popular characters due to licensor interference.
>>578202926sonic already said he's not that good on point and he's as bad as champion if he has no glider ready
>>578203523100%, most fgc fags don't play league and don't realize just how bad it is. Even a game filled with void monster chars would've done better
come on tokon...fix the fucking game now
>>578203672>Source game has a character whose kit is explicitly inspired by fighting games as stated by the developers themselves>She is also very popular>She is one of the older characters, meaning even people who stopped playing League a decade ago will recognize her>She is a hot female, meaning you can make coomer and waifu skins that will sell like hotcakes>Is a melee sword-user, so very easy to create moves for her to fill her kit>Don't put her into the gameInstead we have... Illaoi.It will never make sense to me.
>>578206194Only excuse is they were saving the coomer characters to pick the game up later. But they should have seen the writing on the wall immediately and put all the sluts into the game with bunny outfits.
>2xko dead>invincible vs on life support Mr Stark, I don't feel so good....
>Nen Impact: Unbothered. Moisturized. Happy. In It's Lane. Focused. Flourishing.Apologize right now.
If Tokon dies we're all going back to DBFZ right?
>>578207576if tokon dies im going back to strive/tekken or dropping fgs as a whole
>>578207196That game hits 0 players globally on Steam anon. Even DNF Duel and any other fighter doesnt they always have at least single digits through 24 hours. Check SteamDB if you dont believe me lol.
>>578207762ummmm that's because the game was given out for free on Epic there is actually thousand of players there im not insane
>>578207663Strive is in a better state than most fighters to be fair. Tekken is still trying to unfuck itself from season 2 but at a snails pace, season 4 minimum it'll take to be good.
Danger is cute and fun.That is all.
>>578207576We’re all going to City of the Wolves.
W H E N P A T C H
>>578207663>strive/tekkenew
>>578209723about 6 months
>>578209723tomorrow at 5 pm EU, no way they do it on a weekend
with twixo announcing EOS it's time for sony to man the fuck up and remove the DRM
>>578214150I think its gonna take a while since a lot of the games online systems depend on the Snoy SDK
>>578214785Sony SDK is not itself the problem, it's Thea, and they can remove that without removing the rest of Snoy shit.
>>578214785removing Theia would be a huge boost to performancethere is no reason to keep it in when there is already a crack for offline play available
Come on guys..1 more day...then we can play the game......
>>578217941One more day until people give up completely on pc you mean, if it doesn't replicate the crack performance (it won't) then it's over over.
The best part of tokon is my growing folder of snakeeyez flexing to fap to.
>>578219132How are you in love with a man voice cracking at 40
>>578217941So we already have a date for the patch?
>>578219601Sony cancelled the patch. No reason to remove the drm now with the incoming influx of 2xko players.
Tokon diamond and below:>what the fuck is blocking?>what the fuck is tagging?>yes I am going mash on wakeup every timeTokon above diamond:>blockstring, long assist, long move, tag, mixup into blockstring, long assist, long move, tag, mixup into blockstring, long assist long move, tag, mixup into safe blockstring>lol you only blocked right 8 out of 9 times that's 60% lmao
>>578220407i got to vibranium last night and i still play nothing but mashers. only difference is that now everyone is playing spidey/shuri/magik/blade
>>578220407In at vibranium and theres nothing but spidermen
>>578220407>>yes I am going mash on wakeup every timethis shit is so annoyingand I can't even pretend I don't deserve it because I keep missing my meaties
>>578223315Meaties in this game are the hardest in all fg history i swear to god
>>578223940>tfw I don't notice it because I always just return to neutral/toss a Peni gadget on KD
>>578223940it doesn't help that some characters just can't cover all options due to the difference in timing and forward roll. you pretty much have to use an assist for meaty
>>578223940>>578225861dash macro knows which side the enemy is on
>Mfw Tokon lasts about as long as 2XKO
>>577994156I'm a long time phoenix cyclops stan, he has been my discord icon for like 15 yearsprepare for optic blasts that are mildly firey. >>577994914almost definitely. When they kill magik, collosus , namor and emma frost he ends up going dark phoenix, no visor and ends up killing professor x. all to stop his people from getting genocided.
>>578006440arcsys drank the blm koolaid when they saw how excited niggas got for dbz and tekken leeroy. Its kind of painfully obvious in strive.
Holy shit where's the update, it's already fucking Friday in Japan and they said this week
I understand the logic behind it but making the projectile/aa assists very homogenized in terms of hit/blockstun just makes some of them even more uselesscap and magik just literally have better versions of lokis assists because they have the exact same startup and advantage but lokis just hits a narrower area so his is worse with no upside
>>578197394Is magneto dogshit? I played him and it’s not that I thought he was bad he’s just really fucking boring.
Is Doom's 236L being safe on block (only -3) unusually privileged?Magik's specials all seem to be unsafe if used too close, for example.
>>578234482its a zoner move
>>578234517I don't see how that's relevant to my question.
>>578235050most specials unless designed to be + on block seem to hover in the -12 ish range. 236 his beam? idk how that compares to other beams
>>578237242>most specials unless designed to be + on block seem to hover in the -12 ish range.Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It seems like Doom is unusually privileged in being able to end his blockstrings on a special and be safe at any range. Other characters seem to be reliant on spacing for safety.236X is the beam.
>>578056182A completely throwaway Emma Frost robot from a Black Panther comic that I don't think even had a line blew up for a week. "Popular woman, but black" seems to be easy mode.
Is magneto viable in this game?
>>578240516he's quite good imoand he's one of the best supports in the game. his AA assist and assault assist are very good.
>>578240516he's basically the best assist character in the game, but he's almost so good as an assist you never want to actually field him. you can still play him point but he needs debris on the field
>>578240516his back assist is really good
>>578240516hes good but boring to play
Goddamn at least 2XKO died with some dignity, Tokon players are gonna act like this shit isn't dead in the water forever on PC. Yeah, it'll exist on PS5, but who the fuck has a PS5
>>578243490we're over 4000 concurrent players on PC, this is very active for a fighting gamelikely more than twice that many on PS5 and we have crossplayso there's not gonna be any problems getting a game
>at least 2XKO died with some dignity
>>578244589>very active for a fighting gameits active for a fighting game thats been out for a year+ but lets not kid ourselves. Strive is like 5 years old and still gets 10k+ players every time a new character releases. And I hate modern Strive, most people do. Tokon not even getting retaining 50% of its playerbase for its launch is just.... not good at all for a fighting game
>>578247194How is strive so popular if most people hate it?
>>578248302because r/kappa's opinions hold no value
>>578248302It looks pretty and its had consistent support. Thats rare in this space
>>578248459Tokon looks pretty so all we need is arcsys to not give up on the game and we are set
Microsoft did an oopsie
i legit can't do this combo trial
>>578249921*SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH*
8 frame lag when you're about to winthis might be the worst fighting game
>cracked epic games version can be played onlineNice, sony doesn't deserves my money for a broken port.
How do you guys feel about Doom, especially compared to Magneto? Been running Doom as my vertical assist since the beta. Really wanted to like him, but the more I start abusing active tag, the more he just ends up getting shuffled into point/back assist spots where I kinda don't want him. I like that I can easily get combos on him as point with his ex moves, but I have difficulty with his movement. Do you guys think his full screen conversions are worth keeping him over mag?
>>578253330link
>>578255513So half an hour from now? I hope the fix the crashes caused by the windows update. It's annoying having to fight my windows to stop it from auto installing the updateand the matchmaking of course
>>578255420https://online-fix.me/games/officialservers/18201-marvel-tokon-fighting-souls-po-seti.htmlit works, I can access the open lobbies but it disconnect mid match in the third round for some reason
>online-fix-me
i keep losing to 8 framers, i might just uninstall ngl
>>578256405calm down !!!! the patch will fix it !!!!!!!!!!
All other fighting games will perish and we will all return to SF6 as designed
>>578255910>it works but I disconnect mid matchso it doesn't work?
>>578256552I don't give a shit about SF6 and think it is absolutely heinous to look at, but I have to give it to Capcom, they are evidently the only fighting game developer/publisher that has any idea what they're doing from a management perspective.
I waded through a ton of 8f rollback to get to vibranium 2 a moment ago and I just reloaded the game and now i'm at diamond 3what in the ever loving fuck, my replays are still there at the right rank too
>>578256861I mean it works partially, it can get into matchmaking, use lobbies and even interact with legit owners of the game. It's pretty close, I guess it would work if it is pirate vs pirate but I haven't tested against another fellow pirate.
>>578257037kek
>>578257037I wouldn't even play ranked, I've been enjoying the game more since I started using the open lobby.
>2xko dies in 8 months after releaseHow long do you think it will take for tokon to die?
>>578257529go back to sfg lil bro
>>578257529hopefully not before your suicide.
alright im done, they didnt fix the windows update crash
>>578257037Happened to me too, i was diamond 1 then randomly put in plat 1
did 4chans die again
>>578261370I thought it wasn't out of maintenance for another half hour.
>>578263589nah it's out now online too
>>578263743my game just crashed after i got a casual matchKILL YOURSELF SONY who the fuck cares about matchmaking when the literal game doesnt work at all
This game is genuinely not going to have a second season pass, they can't fix the PC port. Imagine a Marvel fg made by Arcsys dying in the same amount of time as DNF because of Sony.It would be fine if it failed because the actual game was horrible but no it's two DRMs
>>578264713It's dying faster than DNF Duel not as fast. It's blatantly a sabotaged product that is intended to fail. Arc Sys has nothing relevant to do with it.
im uninstalling fuck off arcsys fuck this shit genre
they fixed champ getting a second grab after his command grab, but not getting free assist calls mid combo, was it a feature after all?
>>578265808People knew about it in the beta and it made it to release, so it doesn't surprise me.
>retard that holds forward round startthats a one and done, typical nigger that can't fathom playing the game and wants to casino from second 1
>>578256951Remember, as stupid as it was for them to do it, somebody had the build with Urien WITHOUT the rootkit ready because they knew SFV would fucking die overnight if they kept it like that.Tokon, apparently, does not have that one smart engineer.
how was the patch?
>>578268093
is he okay?
>>578268093i'm getting matches every 10 seconds now so huge change for me, i didnt' have any fps problems
>>578268093No more 8 frames rollback so far and matchmaking is faster.
i literally can't find an eu match, did i get blacklisted because my game crashed too much
matchmaking seems way worse actually lol. performance is much better though
Did the patch save Tokon? (on pc)
First week retail sales of Marvel Toukon in Japan were below 3k units.This is the worst launch for an Arc System fighter in Japan (excluding super niche stuff like DNF Duel), well below most of the Guilty Gear, BlazBlue and even Under Night in Birth.No japanese dub matteredhttps://x.com/GameDataLibrary/status/2090626358015607248
>>578270515i think they fixed the one sided lag, but the game is still making my pc run hot
>>578270515I waited 5 minutes for casualranked in training... let's wait a day before dooming or going FIXED PLS CHANGE STEAMREVIEW
>>578270564do japs even care about capeshit?
>>578270564>No japanese dub matteredIt does have JP dub thoughbeit
>>578270012nvm after i switched from us west from us east i started finding games in like 5 seconds
I had to stop playing because I think some incident happened to me when I was asleep last night that made my hands forget how to play fighting games, but I got matches fast and with no technical issues when I was playing just now.
this new update actually managed to increase my CPU usage. Yesterday it was around 55%, and now it’s at 90–100%. horrendous lag on any setting with wakanda stage
>>578272339>>578272136stop lying i cant find a single match
>>578273374I was finding matches in 15 seconds at most, sorry bub. I only played an hour though so maybe it was just good luck.
my cursed latest win11 version continues to be crashing non stop maybe next patch or I roll back winy
>>578273374oh my god I don't think you can queue ranked if you have a red card of rage quit thank you windows
>>578274458for anyone wondering it takes 10 open lobby matches to get rid of it
>>578265187Your dumbass definitely didn't pay attention to how shit dnf duel did. That game hit triple digit playerbase after 1 week and double digit playerbase after two weeks.
Thank you sp//dr
>>578279114Nice
They should have done Marvel vs. Blazblue instead of just Marvel, then the game would be popular in Japan.
>>578270729They like Spiderman and Psylocke.
>>578278490I don't think that's actually true. The game got balance patches really frequently early and they always jumped back up to 5 digits early on.The game tapered off because they never actually had plans to do dlc for that game. It's actually because the game did better than they expected that it even had a season pass a full year later
>>578283474>The game got balance patches really frequently early???Which dimension are you from?
>>578283904Hes not wrong. They were patching it weirdly with small stuff like fixes and tiny balance patches where they touched 3 chars and did nothing else. One patch even just targeted Swift Master and thats it literally patch to smoke that faggot only lol.
Was reaching 60 idle with some drops here and there including supers and breaks. Now those drops are shorter and weaker albeit still falling to 50 FPS once a match lasts too long, taking a few seconds to go back to 60 FPS especially on Savage Land but both GPU and CPU usage increased somehow?
i get games so quickly now
I lose every interaction and drop every combo.
>nerf weakest character in the gamethis game deserves to fail
>get vibranium>lose a set>back to diamond and needing to win the promo againis arcsys retarded?
>>578269580If you crashed during matches you might have the "ragequitter" tag which fucks up matchmaking because the game tries to match you with other people with same tag. The worst part is that you can't see the gat on yourself as far as I can tell, you have to ask someone else if they can see the tag on you.
>>578288550Being able to demote from ranks is fine, though it shouldn't take a single set.
>mash assist in air>literally not a single one lands on the opponent during their blockstringOk, their Magik assist will always land on me though
So are we now done dooming about the PC port with the patch fixing it? We can finally talk about the game?
>>578273017Mine is up too to from 40-60% to 60-70%, but the frames are much more stable. Wakanda still drops me to 58 every now and again, but it's definitely playable now.I think they still need a benchmark, I played against a guy just now that would drop frames and I'd get hit with 8 frames rollback and at some point he must've crashed because I got hit with sudden lag spikes and 8 frames rollback and he started playing like a bad CPU. Desync sucks for everyone, you might as well just end the match.I think the bigger problem is everyone got really good in the month I've been gone waiting for the patch so I gotta hit the lab.
>>578289018Sajam (herd leader) says he is getting matches fast now so the dooming will decrease, but it will always be present.
>>578289187Sajam kinda has to pivot now that he's without main game. Personally I had a couple 3-10 minute queue times I'm more sceptical
>>578291175I agree about Sajam but I was getting matches very quickly personally.
REMOVE 4L+A NIGGA
>>578292495I think 4L+A is fine, this game is light on defensive mechanics anyway. One thing I would like that would benefit the one on offense is for tech forward/roll forward and mash to not be so effective in every situation aside from a combo/wall break, it feels especially bad when you throw someone.
>>578293157The frame data is still plus. If they roll into you just mash. Before they mash.
heh...don't make me angry
>>578298293>PENIS PENIS PENISGayanon...
>>578298293>PENIS PENIS PENISBASED BASED BASED
>>578298713
>>578289018The game is literally flawless now. The PC port is perfect and matchmaking is near instantaneous.
https://x.com/uknower67/status/2090572041317470582linux players working hard
>>578299405stfu you shilled the last two patches which did nothing the same way day 1
>>578300798Fuck off doomer.
>>578270729The only Japanese that care about western comics are in the manga and anime industry. There’s little normie penetration since Japanese normies mostly like Japanese media.
okay i can now safely say tag games aren't for me and they're for scrub mashing retardswill never play one again
>>578303453I'm pretty sure they like MCU movies.I doubt they read comics, though. Even Americans don't read comics.
>>578304324Comics are shit at fights so I know for a fact japs not reading that shit. Only good fight comics are Superman books.
>>578303734>He cant beat mashersLol lmao
>>578305021DCko was pretty good for fights be yeah a lot of comics kinda just regulate fights to a single page spread.
>>578304324>>578305021If you’re in the industry you look at comics because comics and manga are the same shit and you consume a lot of shit so that you can steal the best bits into your own process. Why are so many modern cartoons bad? Because they’re made by people that only consume cartoons. Why is so much manga sameface slop, because it’s made by mangaka who only read manga. But what about the people that inspired the people that inspired these people. Miyazaki and Otomo were both huge Moebius fans. They pulled their inspiration from somewhere else, which lead to their art standing out and being better than their contemporaries.
>>578305595nah I just can't get into my head tag game neutral, sad because these chars are really cool but I hate tag slop so much
>>578306148Just pretend the tags are normal attacks.
>>578304324>>578305021Nobody reads comics because americ makes no effort into adapting said comic into television shows.The reason the anime industry works out so well is that it's a giant feedback loop when it comes to self sustaining.People team manga and get hype for anime. Anime comes out and is super popular because it had hype. And then said hype translates to more manga being bought.Also comic books are just messy and annoying to read sometimes.Man you are really likeling Superboy prime? Well he's acting as superman in issues 35-40 in supermands comic.Wana know what happens to Superboy prime after the fact? Go read super girl issue 13.It's really un appealing to those trying to latch onto series.
>>578306106I was talking about normies. Obviously there are mangaka reading comics.>>578306394>It's really un appealing to those trying to latch onto series.This is why I just started at Fantastic Four #1.
nothingburger patch
>>578307268I fought this guy 20 mins ago kek
>>578307636is penis as bad as everyone says?
>>578307774No you just need to have godlike assists, I need to replace BP with Magik and Magneto with Doom. I fought 2 mirrors so people started catching on that she isn't that weak
>>578307636Glad you use the best Penis skin
>>578307636why did he upback and not block
>>578308010Penis nation rising up?
I can now run the game with vsync on and with TAA instead of DLSS. Won't know how it is til I go online and I need to check CPU temperatures but the game is now running like how it should have on day 1. You no longer need to reload shaders for changing settings. PSN bloatware is still in there.RTX 3080 and AMD Ryzen 7. Just figured to let you guys know. I could only run this shit on low if I wanted to cap at 60FPS with vsync off to experience screen tearing despite being in a window instead of full screen. Now it runs on high at 2K with TAA and Vsync just fine. Obviously it might be a different case for you, but they might have fixed the single core CPU bullshit.
who should i run as vertical assist for doom point/loki shooter/magneto assault
>>578316225Why not Mag vertical?
Alright so now the patch has seemingly fixed everything I now ask again if you guys would join lobbies if I hosted them and when the best time to host would be for everyone.
>>578316845We don't play games here
>>578316580i was doing that but mag assault sets up an easy 50/50 with doom's teleport dash and i feel like it's a big mistake not to run that
>>578316845Give it a day, bro. I still gotta see if it melts my PC after an hour. Then I can FINALLY learn the game without worrying about making somebody else miserable for playing with me. Christ, I can actually finally find out if I like Danger or not.
>>578316225here's a cheatsheet I made because I was in a similar spot of not sure who to put third
Welp now it can run on steam deck at 60fpsSo....thanks Sony for killing the game anyway
>like 50 posts today after the patchlul this general is over
>>578320371it's a nothing burger patch why would I post anything
>>578320281maybe i'll try hulki rarely play big bodies but apparently he has good synergy with doom's laser oki
>>578320343afaik easy anti-cheat never works on linuxwhy a fighting game needs such intrusive anti-cheat when the only real form of cheating is basic botting that should be easy to detect heuristically, i can't say
>>578320556>nothing burger patch False.
>>578321357I know who you are you can't bait me stinky
>>578320742>why a fighting game needs such intrusive anti-cheat when the only real form of cheating is basic botting people unironically cheat in strive and sf6
>>578320742Actually EAC does work on Linux under protonBut Sony has it hardwired that the game will NOT launch if it detects any wine or proton. Literally stupid shit for no reason
>>578320556>why would I post anythingThe motto of this general for the next two weeks until it dies
>>578321540yeah and it's just bots that react to shit at inhuman speedsyou could probably just run an AI algorithm over replays to scan for a pattern of that happening over 20 or 50 or 100 gamessomeone who is making reads will do the input before the enemy inputs, just after, and too late, more or less randomlysomeone using a bot will always do the input just after the enemy inputs, and never too late
The windows update that crashes the game is still not fixed. Uninstall that shit before playing the game.Also if you were the spiderman fighting my ms. marvel just now I swear I didn't ragequit bro my game just crashed
>>578320742>why a fighting game needs such intrusive anti-cheatI would imagine their legacy netcode being such spaghetti that a third-party hacker could lag and/or crash the game for anyone they chose and them being helpless to stop it for over a year might be a big part why they chose to include anti-cheat.
>>578322164Have you considered that it's not fucking hard to program the bot to do the input at the last possible moment, or have it do it at random intervals? Cheating is only easy to catch if the person cheating is really shit at the game. A really good player having a bot that makes some specific automatic reaction input automatically 50% of the time is more or less uncatchable my normal means. If you look at other communities where cheating is rampart, it's the really good players who decide they want that little extra advantage that are the real problem. When you look at current caught cheaters, you have to understand that only the really shit, obvious cheaters get caught.
>>577992769>take five seconds to learn some hulk routes>if the stage has a wall you can literally turn a random midscreen armored charge hit into 80%>even without the wall if you have any halfway decent shooter assist you can carry to the corner and do at least 50%>M gamma wave is easy to hit meaty and covers rollsThis combo system is fucking ass, you literally just want to fit in as many heavies and different EX's as you can.This kind of bullshit should not be optimal:(midscreen)214M, A, 214HH, Hold H, U, A Hold H, U, A, Hold H, 22HH, 236HH, H, U, super
>>578320581it's because doom's satellite laser lets hulk build lots of rage meter to do gigafuckloads damagehttps://nitter.poast.org/Moja_UDON/status/2088541868271468878something like this, and u can tag whoever into doom and then that guy into hulk
>>578323308>Have you considered that it's not fucking hard to program the bot to do the input at the last possible moment, or have it do it at random intervals?which is why it's difficult for a human to detectbut an algorithm would notice that they always seem to react perfectly to certain things while hardly ever hitting the input BEFORE the opponent did
>>578316845after 2 weeks I've finally settled on a team so i'd def play
>>578323792>post below yours is someone showing a way more optimal hulk combo lole
>>578323792>you literally just want to fit in as many heavies and different EX's as you can.why are pros ending combos early to set up oki then
>>578324198>post below yourspost below me doesn't show shitIf you mean the post way way above me that has a tag combo with doom that's the same except it starts off a close range M from fucking doctor doom and sneaks an EX clap in after the 236HHDon't @ me retard>>578324316They're just making the combo break the meter instead of ending on a super if it won't kill, which is basically once per round. I'm talking about damage routes you fucking mongoloid.Are the only people left talking about this game chimps?
>>578323931>but an algorithm would notice that they always seem to react perfectly to certain thingsHence:>A really good player having a bot that makes some specific automatic reaction input automatically 50% of the time is more or less uncatchableIf we use SF6 for example, if you have a bot that always reacts to DI, then yeah that's easily catchable. But if you have a bot that only auto-reacts to DI at the last second 50% of the time if you didn't react yourself, that will improve your chances of winning but be undetectable.
>>578324316you only do this when there's no wall to break because the slump gives a hard knockdown. the tech options in this game are retarded scrubby and hard knockdown is extremely rare so it's a weird case of arcsys creating a problem that didn't need to exist and then creating a dumb solution to it.i'm nta but i do agree that i don't like the combo system in this game. there are some characters who have unique routing but for many it really is H>EX>H>EX>H>EX>H>EX>H>EX as optimal routing. that's basically all you do as carnage in the corner and it's pretty lame.
>>5783239311) the cheat can obviously be programmed to fail2) you, the retarded player can still fail i get what you're saying anon but this problem came up when they tried to get heuristic detection into counterstrike.
easyanticheat isn't even that good of an anti cheat, games like dead by daylight still have cheaters
>>578324908>>578324653okay but the upside is it wouldn't need easy anticheat
>>578325350EAC tends to suck but DBD is absolutely failure by design. they've had more than one developer come out saying the actual decision makers don't want cheaters banned because they're retarded and think they are a source of revenue (they can cheat every character/cosmetic in the game). the fact that they refuse to add simple checks to the game to realize something is horrible wrong with its gamestate is insane.i imagine it was just added to feel good and pretend they're protecting the integrity of the game rather than actually do much.
>>578325350EAC is not an issueAll games having it run fineIt's the rest of the shitBut yeah EAC is pointless
>>578325631There's nothing really wrong with easy anti-cheat though as (beyond it just not being particularly good at stopping cheaters). There are plenty of games that use it without having massive performance issues. Fucking DBFZ used it and it didn't have this level of issues during it's PC launch. The problem seems to lie with the sony SDK and/or Thea DRM.
>>578325350No anticheat is perfect. It just works as a deterrent so it takes more effort to cheat instead of not having an anticheat at all and any retard can download CheatEngine and use it
>replays can STILL desyncjesus fucking christ
what crack are y'all playing? I don't wanna get the wrong one...
>>578328968ankergames has the right one
>>578329220thanks bro
>>578309228because everyone in this game upbacks and mashes, probably holding forward for his fireball assist
>>578329660damn storm really does have an ugly man face
>>578329660I'll say itStorm is ugly in this game.
>>578329660futanari hag rapist face
[horrific news] sajam is playing peni
>>578331343rest in piss peniphiles confirmed for the shittest taste
>>578331893Penis was always a forced industry plant character.Just like magik
>>578331343time to drop peni for ms marvel
>>578332126terrible takeShe was always a well liked character until AVX, where her popularity began to grow slowly with each arc and then she appeared in Marvel Rivals, where her popularity exploded.
>cap will shoutout QUILL when you tag in for starlord, but not the other way aroundhere I thought these were only for the canon teamates, the fact that it's one way is even stranger - and do these two even know eachother at all? I thought that was the whole joke about the gotg that nobody on earth knows who the fuck they are as a metajoke about how people don't give a shit about cosmic marvel until funny movies happened
>>578333171I think it's kinda arbitrary. Ms. Marvel has a special voiceline when she especifically uses her Super 2 against Spiderman.A fun one is when Deadpool tag in for Ironman and he shouts >LEAVE THE BILLIONAIRE ALONE
>>578333881>Ms. Marvel has a special voiceline when she especifically uses her Super 2 against Spiderman.there's a ton of these for the 100 meter supers, including literally everyone having a unique one against champbut when they awkwardly splice in someones name after an assist/tag, that's a bit more specific
5HH assist5H[H] assist5H 214H assist
>>578333054Wasn't she a main character in a big budget movie before Marvel Rivals?
>>578335356oooooooooooh hes clean with it
>>578335356yoooooooooooo these tokon combos be fireI love it when the characters do a heavy then flash orange
>>578335529thats not even a combo you retard
I wanna build a team around deadpool, who are his better teammates and what positions would they be in?
>>578335947>he doesn't know
>>578335948slash the strive player is maining deadpool go and look at his xitter
here I thought I was gonna be a special snowflake with this onedont reply to mentally ill thirdies that ritual/vaguepost in /vg/ threads btw, it's like ignoring the homeless man screaming to nobody in particular at the bus stop
>>578335381I don't know if I would say big budget but yeah a movie existed. It was pretty ambitious in the sense that it tried to do something different than cookie cutter mcuslop but the movie bombed and nobody watched or even know it exists.
I really just don't like how easy it is to confirm hits in this game for how high the damage is. It's unironically worse than Marvel 3.>opponent mashes L any time you're both in the air>continuing to simply mash L magnetizes and autocombos you, knock to the ground for the easiest auto-timed assist confirm you've ever done into 60% damage >magneto or blade or spidey assist hit you from fullscreen into 5 gorillion frames of hitstun into 60% combo>every single normal has 5 bazillion frames of hitstun, quick skill makes it easy to mash out EXs so anyone gets 60% off of any touchIt's just one of those things that irks me. Hit confirms, doing combos, inputting specials. How much complexity and skill can we take out of fighting games until we admit we've gone too far? I'm obviously not the best player in the world, I'm a humble vibranium on a mid tier team. But I am the person most affected by this as I'm surrounded by shitters who are brought up to my level by the game handing them everything on a silver platter.
>>578338071The irony is that the casuals that's meant to help will never go beyond the basic autocombos so it's just people that could absolutely be doing harder timings falling asleep while they autoconfirm.
How do you unlock color 6? The one that isn't from episodes, survival or combo trials
>>578338304You have to play 10 casual matches
>>578338418With the character on the team? Or just in general? Do lobby matches count or only matchmade casuals?
>>578338418I thought you had to win any 10 online matches.>>578338490Once you get it, it unlocks the color for the entire cast.
>>578338569Just playing is enough. I only played 10 matches to unlock ranked and I didn't won all of them but I still unlocked the color
>>578338490I got the colors playing exclusively lobby matches. Since matchmaking was so shit at the time.
>>578338071Oh and since I'm in a bitching mood here are more complaints:Why the fuck did they feel it was necessary to give such wildly different startups on different characters' buttons? Most characters have 6f jabs but then Carnage and Hulk and Champion randomly have 7fs that make it impossible for them to contest tons of situations. Carnage's 2L is 8f and -5. Spidey's 5M is 8f and -4 and a fucking auto-win button. Make it make sense.
>>578338071instead in marvel 3 you would have giga braindead light medium medium into footdive/helm breaker/other ez groundbounce for braindead midair confirm and if you weren't a top tier you instead just didn't have midair confirms at all and got to eat shit. half that games tier list is literally just>this character stops functioning when they jumpand being able to do good midair confirms is a big reason why big bodies like hulk and haggar who people thought were garbage on release ended up being good enough characters to win evoidk if it's a bad thing that the entire roster gets to play the game instead of only some
Well tokon still seems to just crash my entire computer still so that's neat
>>578194647I kinda wanna play this game for her... Downloaded the crack to try it out, is she viable? I hear people say she's hard but I've been playing fighting games for 30+ years how hard can she be?
>>578339949She's underdeveloped if you play her at face value she's probably is pretty weak
>>578339789>giga braindead light medium medium No one is going to pretend marvel's basic combos were hard but were those routes leading into you losing 60% of your total match health in that game compared to tokon? No. If we're going to boil my choices of game down to "homogenized and everyone is super easy and strong" and "non-homogenized but more wildly imbalanced and more skill expression" I will always take the latter. I think comparing this game to Marvel 3 is not the greatest of ideas in the first place, I only brought it up in my first post because I figured some giganigga would reply "but one touches in mahvel" when that game has 3 healthbars and this game has 1
>>578340505>No one is going to pretend marvel's basic combos were hard but were those routes leading into you losing 60% of your total match health in that gameyes? you can absolutely one touch off the characters I posted about with those ez midair starters because they were all heavy normals or specials that don't scale and marvel is a game full of shit that just ignores hitstun decay, massive damage dhc's with ez meterbuild and a ton of other sicko shit>but u only take 33% on a one touch cuz 3 charactersyeah but then you have to eat this pure 50/50 where even I don't know what side I'm on because literally only 2 characters can iframe in midair, or a fucking unblockable. taking 60% in a game where you can get out of oki way easier (don't forget mvc3 also has shit like doom beam and jam session that are way more oppressive then something like blade assist) is pretty fairseems like your main problem is just you feel indignant that you have shit neutral and keep getting hit and "bad players" are able to turn those hits into a winning chance instead of being completely hopeless, which is the intended point of the game and really tag games in general (mvc3 literally lets you lmhs mmhs super and do 60% of someomes lifebar, and kill if you activate xfactor)
swapped my team around and everything is finally clicking. took magneto off point and put him on anti air, made cap my point character and took iron man from assault to shooter. also i replaced ms. marvel completely with carnage on assault, and now i'm really feeling this team. everything feels like it compliments each other
>>578341070>yes? you can absolutely one touch off the characters I posted about with those ez midair startersYou are absolutely not doing that off of every touch in marvel, you don't just spawn in with full meter retard>yeah but then you have to eat this pure 50/50Not if you have x-factor
>>578339949her movement is floaty and slow as fk would not recommend
is carnage assault the only pull assist like that? its so useful for setting up stuff
>>578341843xfactor does nothing to stop a left/right mixup that happens under your body like haggar 236L where he can literally physically be in front of you and hit as a crossup 1f later
>>578342058Spiderman also pulls from fullscreen on hitBlade blocks them in air and then hits them and makes them fly towards you but way lessFinally Magneto can also pull them towards you but less unless you have debris out
>>578341908damn... she's the hottest character in this game...
>>578342816thats ghost rider actually
>>578342816Peni?
>>578342816Umm wrong
>>578342816this game has no attractive characters and everyone who says magik is a tranny
>>578344560what's wrong with trannys?
>>578344560post an example of an attractive character
it is fucking astounding how dogshit carnage's neutral is. i'm afraid that i just can't play him on point in vibranium, everyone wrecks him so hard
>>578345336I use peni for neutral and swap to him for combos and mixups. jump into delay j.XH is always good. also peni can mixup from his long ass M rekka
>>578344918>>577995497
>>578340505>when that game has 3 healthbars and this game has 1This game also has 3 healthbars, you just don't get a massive debuff when one of your lifebars is depleted, instead the opponent gets a heal back to full on their current health bar.
>starlord earth gun counts all assists, even ones that clearly use physical hits, as "projectiles" and invulns through themso he just wins neutral for free?
>>578345438i tried to run him on shooter but his projectile assist is just so slow and gets tagged really easily. i'm afraid he will only be useful on assemble but that completely fucks up my team and means i'll almost never play him
i like this game but i wish it had burst and also that you couldn't convert every single hit into a full 25-hit c2c combo doing between 40% and 60%
>>578344560Peni
>>578344560not sure where this meme started that magik isn't hot but she's really fucking hot
>>578347013Stop getting hit and people will eventually run outta resources for those big conversions
>>578347208peni is like a 3/10 at best.
>>578347013i just hate that the game's reversal is a reaction test, and if the games shitty netcode is dying it just ignores your input
Did the patch help with the PC performance at all, bros?I haven't had time to check it yet
>>578348005i don't know what this meme is that the netcode is badthe reason you're having laggy matches is that your opponents' PCs can't run the game
>>578347013I don't mind the damage, but the length of the combos is obnoxious considering how easy they are. DBFZ had the same issue, way too much time spent either twiddling your thumbs or doing extremely basic execution checks.
>>578348191some people said it helpedothers say it made it worseothers say theyre crashing constantlyso basically in the end it didnt even matter
this game needs the bad PC icon from shitty tekken, so i can one and done people with 2015 PCs
>airdash over opponent>whiffs 2H>has time to do another 2H that autocorrects and hits my landing jab before I can even punish the whiffAlright dude, come on. Do airdashes REALLY need to be this slow and 2Hs REALLY need to be this fucking good? Wtf
>>578348417it's not them it's the game
>>578348714>game runs like dogshit: unacceptable>you play online despite knowing your game also runs like dogshit: also unacceptablehow hard is this for you niggers to understand?
>>578348679idk why they made it special and assist cancellable too, i swear 2H wasn't this retarded in DBFZ where you needed it to stop an entire fuckin game mechanic
>>578348824It practically runs like dogshit for everyone so most people enter the matchmaking knowing that anon
>>578348978runs fine for me. if you queue up knowing it runs like dogshit you're a part of the problem. you can shit on the bad PC port all you want but you're a irredeemable faggot if you queue up knowing it doesn't run well for you.
>>578348978>It practically runs like dogshit for everyoneit runs like butter on my machine and has since the beta, except for a few (rare) crashesmost of my opponents after the first few days also seem to be able to run it fine
>>578349145Dunno if the patch truly fixed that most people do technically run the game "fine"The problem is that even the simplest dips can ruin the whole game somehow and a drop to 58 frames for a half a second could just fuck up the match
>>578349145You're directing your spergout towards the wrong things I think
>>578349304>The problem is that even the simplest dips can ruin the whole game somehow and a drop to 58 frames for a half a second could just fuck up the matchthis is drastically different from the people playing the game at 25 FPS and teleporting all over the screen
Should I be using all my assists? I run Wolverine point or cap point depending on how I feel and strictly rely on Ironman beam assist. I don’t ever use vertical or assault assist. My fourth is ghost rider or magneto and they’re just there just to be there
I can finally play the game on Linux thanks to the crack and I have to say gameplay wise yeah it's pretty fun.I like Magik, Ms Marvel, Doctor Doom, and Danger because 3 of them are hot and one of them is cool Also fuck you Sony for sabotaging this game
>>578349719>I like Magik, Ms Marvel, Doctor Doom, and Danger because 3 of them are hot and one of them is coolLook I like Doom too but I'm not sure I'd say he's hot.
>>578349304and it's insanely easy to test and find out if you're having these dips. again, the pc port is bad. you are still a retard if you're knowingly going online with a system that can't hold steady 60. there are no excuses for this
>>578349823As long as he's rich he can be as hot as he wants to
How do (You) feel about this, anon?
>>578349996Well, he was originally pretty hot under the mask.But the version in Tokon is definitely disfigured. Severely disfigured.
>>578350256Positively, because with how many specials you cram into each combo I think losing damage on each of those is more than enough of a detriment without them also having extra scaling
>>578350256I never thought it would work any other way.
>>578350256Why should they scale your starter? Why is this phrased like there being a hidden additional downside to quick skills that they have never mentioned is the standard and he is surprised to find out there isn't?
>>578348679if you airdash over someone why wouldn't you attack in midair
>>578352191because 99% of the time I do that I get hit by a 2H that either autocorrects to my side or hits me while I'm behind them
>>578350256people that get mad over QS are scrubs
I started reading comics because of this game and I kinda think the DC books I’ve been reading are leaps and bounds better than marvel stuff. The marvel books I’m reading (x-men, hulk, captain America) are fun but the dc stuff like flash, green lantern, batman, swamp thing and justice league are just way more enjoyable to read. Also been reading some early spawn and that shit is just so 90s and retarded I just cannot look away
>>578353258read silver age marvelalso i've never read spawn but i've heard mcfarlane is an awful writer
>opponent has "looking for long sets" bio>beat him>he leaves after 1 match>find him immediately again>beat him>he leaves
hungryclicker with the peni? nah das od
rog eyez bros..
>>578321540>Cheat in a genre where a game is less than two minutesFor what fucking reason? Its so easy to just block the rerun
>>578355427mental illness, usually
>>578353258DC cics are in general better right now than marvel.But read the unbelievable gwenpool by Christopher hasting for a really fun ride
I keep hearing how good and easy blade is but man he is no easy at all for me and his movement is so stiff to me.
>>578353258Dc is good for actual good superhero shit while marvel is pretty much just soap opera but capes
I'm sad this game botched its launch... I think it would've been super successful otherwise...
>>578355590Honestly marvel better get there shit together. A super boy prime series is very likely to start and honestlym he's so charming and fun that gwenpools gimmick will get out done
>>578354994ive never seen him as salty as he has been with this game
>>578355912it's an excellent gameonce they fix the stuttering they can do a soft relaunch with a big saletrust the plan
>>578345871what if this game did the Vampire Savior thing and the winner kept their current health
>>578353258read daredevil
>>578355912Imo Marvel Rivals means the casual audience who have an itch to play Marvel characters already have a f2p game they can play with their friends with tons of characters and weren't going to check out Marvel Tokon as a full priced game. Tokon wasn't going to reach DBFZ or SF 6 peak players numbers but despite the botched launch it's got a concurrent player base of around 3-5k players on Steam alone which is solid for a fighter. DBFZ lost 90% of its players after a week just due to casuals getting filtered playing a traditional fighting game. A stable concurrent player base has always been the more valuable metric. Still, it's launch is disappointing considering it's Marvel and Arcsys teaming up but Sony is to blame for the shortcomings.
>>578353258As a super casual I seriously don't understand why Marvel comics can't write Spiderman for shit. Like I understand Peter suffering and overcoming the odds is a part of his character but they seem to crank up the suffering aspect to 11 and make everything else about the character, his allies and enemies utterly uninteresting. How can a character have a movie come out and earn 2 billion dollars but the writers can't sustain a good comic run?
>>578356981I'm the casual audience, I tried Marvel Rivals for 5 minute and uninstalled that piece of crap... I just wanna play some marvel characters and this game won't let me play...
carnage's neutral might suck ass but holy shit it feels so good outplaying all these magik/bp/spidey/blade point niggers in vibranium
>>578357330rivals is just for overwatch/hero shooter slop fags
>>578357346The benefit of playing a lower tier is that you know you're the better player when you're winning against a better character.
>>578356585It's over anon. Tokon is just one of many failed Sony live service games. The service will be soon discontinued.
>>578356585if it's fixed in time for cyclops then everything will be just peachyotherwise the earliest we'll get a soft relaunch is the first patch of season 2
It's telling how amidst the launch people are more upset that they can't play the game over them thinking the game is shit.
>>578358582It's not helping that the latest windows security update completely crashes and retards your computer
>>578358582the game has gameplay issues, but the port is just disgusting so its not time yet to talk about it
>>578358582the game is very good despite its issues, everyone knows that
>>578358582it still has lots of system and balance issues, you just don't see much of it because it's still so early and we haven't had much high level player. the first major was a week after release and had constant combo drops in grand finals. once evo france or something else rolls around the flood gates of gameplay complaints will open up.top tiers are super privileged in this game and there's some overall questionable system mechanic decisions. most people just aren't good enough or watching players good enough to notice/care atm
They're really going to just ignore the cracked version proving that the DRM is unnecessary, huh
>>578360193sony is one of the most stubborn companies
>>578360193japanese companies seem to believe that DRM is somehow still useful even after a crack becomes widely available
Just played a game where my crossup jM got hit anti air by spooderman 2L.
>>578357216Spider-Man had some of the most consistently good books from his inception to around the mid 90's. It's a modern writers thing that can't into Spider-Man.
>>578355427you should learn of the legend known as "toolassisted"
>>578369964>>578369964>>578369964assemble
