FACT: Minecraft was better before The Adventure Update

>>578103663
He's so powerful he can even use lava to char wood into charcoal or perfectly cook a steak

tried Allumeria
overall while it doesn't beat Minecraft it has some gameplay elements that I wish could be ported over
>bigger inventory
>painting blocks
>bigger stack sizes
>wheel system for changing block shape
also caving is way more fun with the fact that you find crates and chests with loot to keep you going indefinitely
will be buying

>>578156420
>>bigger inventory
>>painting blocks
>>bigger stack sizes
>>wheel system for changing block shape
these would all worsen minecraft and i'm glad they will llikely never come to vanilla.
>will be buying
lmao

>>578156562
how come? how would bigger stack sizes worsen minecraft?

>>578157823
the inventory is completely fine as it is, making it bigger would be cumbersome. and, it wouldn't shut the idiots that complain minecraft having an "inventory up" at all, because they'd fill up the bigger inventory with garbage and then complain online about it not being big enough still. no matter what size it is. it's a bit like the highway problem, adding more lanes just causes more lanes to be filled by idiots.

>>578157823
oh, stack sizes. 64 is iconic, making it 99 would almost be acceptable but it would be a lot more soulless, and making it bigger than 99 would look ugly in inventories and worsen readability at a glance for items. at most i'd say up ender pearls, eggs, snowballs, and signs to 64 instead of 16, there's not much reason for them to stay at 16 anymore, or at all ever really.

>>578156562
I will never understand fanboys like you. Bigger inventory is the only option that wouldn't really solve anything. Better inventory management, like the one in Terraria, would vastly improve vanilla Minecraft, but because of people like you it will never come to vanilla.

>>578158373
>I will never understand fanboys like you
i dont like most of the things numojang has added. the inventory just isn't a problem, though.
>Better inventory management, like the one in Terraria
elaborate. terraria is an entirely different game and the inventory works for different reasons.
also even idiots that play terraria think terraria has an inventory problem, which is exactly what would happen if you change minecraft's inventory in any way. people who can't organize or can't understand bundles will always exist and will always lose their shit when they don't have infinite inventory slots to make up for their retardation.
>but because of people like you it will never come to vanilla.
good.

>diorite
>andesite
>granite
>deepslate
>blackstone
>etc
Do you people seriously think adding more junk is better than just allowing players to simply paint blocks? How? How is having millions of different blocks better than a paintbrush? Give me a few blocks with different textures and allow me to paint them instead of adding each one of then as an individual entity. It's so retarded.

>>578158625
>Do you people seriously think adding more junk is better than just allowing players to simply paint blocks?
Yeah, significantly better. Those all have unique textures btw.

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>>578158625
This is a prime example of the stupidity of Minecraft. Let's just add 1000 new blocks instead of just 1 with a unique texture and then simply allow the player to paint it.

>>578158914
>only add white concrete
>this has solved the inventory problem, now instead of carrying 16 stacks of purple concrete you must carry 8 stacks of concrete and 8 stacks of purple paint, and click on every block you place with paint.
oh, or you paint them in the inventory? thus making purple concrete blocks?
you are so insanely retarded it's not even funny. never be a game designer.

>>578159026
the paint feature we're talking about makes you use a single paint roller item on already placed blocks
painting costs you no dye and it has no durability
in Minecraft terms they could just do something like BTA's paint brush where one dye nets you like 8 blocks, it still reduces inventory clutter a little

>>578159652
or you could just keep it the same way it has always been, the way that works perfectly fine, and the way that is significantly better than any paint system you could come up with.

>>578159754
yeah at this point I agree it's too late to change, but it's hardly "better"

>>578159919
"no you dont understand, cluttering your inventory and hotbar MORE with a paintroller item is totally better, AND also making you click twice on each block you place is better, and breaking purple blocks giving you white blocks is totally cool, AND AND i also like radial menus that make you click a million times to get a stair block and then switch back instead of just scrolling your fucking mouse wheel"
yeah alright.
also terraria has colored blocks, many blocks that share the same texture but have different colors. just so you know.

>>578159026
>>578159754
You should play other games, anon. Candles have worked perfectly fine for a long time, but then came electricity and it turns out it was a better option in the long run.

You've been eating the same shit for so long you're used to it and fail to see the benefits of change.

This is much better than the shit Mojang uses in Minecraft.
https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Paints

But I do kinda agree with >>578159919 in that it's a bit late. It could still be implemented, but it would make a lot of blocs obsolete and would force Mojang and M$ to actually think and put some effort into this game for once, so it's never going to happen.

>>578160084
>You've been eating the same shit for so long you're used to it and fail to see the benefits of change.
You sound like the type to promote LLMs and shit. So, no thanks.
>This is much better than the shit Mojang uses in Minecraft.
It really isn't. And it's for an entirely different game that has different needs. Minecraft is not terraria and the appeals and aesthetics and building playstyles are entirely different.
>put some effort into this game for once
lol. lmao. it's very easy to fuck up the game in terrible ways like what you're suggesting, so it does take conscious effort to avoid doing it and i'm shocked they have been able to for so long.

>>578160238
Anon, take Mojang's dong out of your mouth. It's OK to realize they fucked up and implementing what is an objectively better system is a bit late. It's OK to play shitty games. We're both here and we're both playing Minecraft at the end of the day. You don't have to be such a fanboy and defend bad decisions and bad game design.

>>578160446
I play all sorts of different games. Good games, like terraria, not shitty minecraft clones like allumeria that miss the point and are shit. Minecraft is a unique game and it's made incredibly well and it's design is incredibly good, and changing it to be like other games is such an incredibly shit idea. I don't even understand how someone could come to the conclusion that taking away things that make minecraft minecraft would be good for minecraft unless they were genuinely retarded.

>>578160035
>cluttering your inventory MORE
yeah nigga sure a single tool clutters the inventory more than bringing along different amounts of the same block but colored differently (they can't stack with eachother so a single stack of the same block takes up 4 inventory slots)
axes and pickaxes clutter the inventory o algo
>making you click twice
yeah because you obviously just HAVE to color each block right after you place it, you can't finish your build and then hold right click to paint the different sections
>radial menus that make you click a million times
yeah because it's not like you can just hold a button and hover over a menu of 8 (eight) different shapes, too complex for you
what dogshit arguments dude

>>578160553
>Minecraft is a unique game
That is true. Finally something we both agree on.
>it's made incredibly well and it's design is incredibly good
lol

>>578160612
>o algo
opinion discarded. concession accepted.

>>578160680
way to go

>>578156420
>bigger inventory
>bigger stack sizes
These two would help a ton, the other two don't really fit Minecraft in my opinion

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not this guy again

>>578165626
believe it or not but multiple people can correctly see reality

>>578166052
But we've only got one resident hyper-autist here

>>578166384
no there's at least him and me that can correctly discern that there's no inventory problem in minecraft, the rest of you are idiots

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>>578166478

>>578166052
>>578166478
I more or less agree with you guys. There's no problem from a capacity standpoint. It sure would be nice to be able to sort inventories, though. The QOL stuff can be improved.

On my current deep revisit to the game in a while and I really appreciate the updates to caves. I find way fewer dead ends and way more entrances from the surface and even when I don't find structures there's so many openings and pathways that it almost feels overwhelming, in a good and exhilarating way. Even when I know I'm super unlikely to die I feel like there's a real risk and sense of adventure, it's nice

sift just looks like a saturated version of the overworld with new mobs to me honestly

Dappled forest world generation fix please..

>>578179110
Mojang has another pr disaster on their hands if they don’t announce the sift for vanilla

>>578156420
>caving is way more fun
Meh, monsters never stop spawning, which is fucking annoying.
>loot to keep you going indefinitely
I've looted so much shit so many times that despite the (much) bigger inventory, I've had to TP home more than once. I wouldn't say that was a satisfying experience.
Right now I'm playing modded Minecraft. Say I find a modded mineshaft (a big ass thing), first I need to secure it. Then I'll branch out everywhere, looking for hidden paths and loot.
At some point I WILL be full, and I will have to backtrack home, coming back later to fully loot the mineshaft. I may need to repeat this several times.
With the semi-openness of the mineshaft and cave sounds, tension builds up naturally. You don't feel on edge, but you know you can get jumped whenever.
Now in Allumeria while you have some sort of underground structures that look like mineshafts, they're not exactly interesting to explore outside the (too many) "floating" platforms that contain workstations and loot. They don't feel like a "whole" structure either, if that makes sense. I honestly feel like they go on forever.
And with monsters always spawning, you don't exactly have time to take in your surroundings. So it's non-stop running around, fighting, breaking chests, TP home. Number of times you'll feel in actual danger: 0. You are kept busy, not challenged.
I dunno, maybe I'm not ADHD enough for that kind of gameplay.
>will be buying
Me too. I think it can only improve.

>>578165626
There is no inventory problem. There is a block-bloat problem.

>>578092723
automation games like factorio and its ilk (modded minecraft gets towards this but thats not really what people mean when they say "minecraft"), and paradox games would be the biggest two that come to mind. you have to be very autistic to get anywhere in KSP, but i dont think it has the same reputation as the prior mentions. ive never met an OSRS player who wasnt massively on the spectrum

>>578180667
You're focusing on the wrong thing. We need some way of converting blocks/regions to another biome, that's the only way to fix it

>>578183983
OSRS isn't exactly autistic, though.
It's just "repeat X so numbers can go up."
I'm still looking for an offline OSRS. pls help. Melvor Idle is shit, btw. I really like the world and writing, desu.

>>578193118
>OSRS isn't exactly autistic though
>it's just (describes activity only an autist would enjoy)
curious.
t. 3000 hours in osrs.

melvor idle is shit, the best offline osrs is osrs.

>>578193310
>it's just (describes activity only an autist would enjoy)
this kek
pokemon shiny hunting is massively autistic (at least formerly, now shinies are free as fuck) because no one else has the patience to sit around doing something massively tedious for tens of hours to get a slightly different looking pokemon that can be obtained in seconds through "illegitimate" means

OSRS is pokemon shiny hunting but its the entire game

>>578194717
there's 2 halves of doing the same thing over and over again for many hours, one is for chasing after an rng drop (like shiny hunting) and one is purely to make a number go up with no rng involved whatsoever. both are enjoyed almost purely by autists, and osrs has both of them in their purest forms, through pet hunting or boss drop hunting, and pure skilling.
i spent 700 hours chopping trees to get a fox pet at 95 million woodcutting xp, the expected rate is about 30 million xp i think.

>>578195190
ive never been that big on RS (somewhat before my time), but i did have a brief rs3 stint at the behest of a friend whod been playing it forever

all i did was fish. just hung out at the fishing place 24/7 til it got fishing 99 (or 120? i dont remember if it was one that had shit up to 120 or not) and the fishing pet

>>578193310
But I don't want to give Jewgex my money... they're so greedy, man.

>>578195491
ok yeah that's fair, i havent played in a long time and you really shouldn't give them a dime. there's really nothing quite like osrs though sadly, you could try a private server but they range from good quality and dead to horrible quality and active. though maybe you could live with it being dead if all you want is solo scape for free.

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I've been meaning to ask here what Minecraft would look like if it were more like OSRS. I never played OSRS but pretty much every boy my age during primary school did. Also WOW.

>>578196993
>I've been meaning to ask here what Minecraft would look like if it were more like OSRS
ive always just thought of hypixel skyblock as minecraft runescape

>>578197109
skyblock is just runescape without any of what makes osrs good and all of what makes rs3 bad pretty much.
>>578196993
i guess it'd just have skills or something? minecraft combat isn't all that interesting and wouldn't be improved with skills, and i can't see many of the other aspects of the game improving with having skilling requirements either. sandbox games dont mesh too well with leveling systems i think.

>>578196993
OSMC would basically be like if Mojang were to make an official version of those 'Better Than [XYZ]' mods like the old version of Better Than Wolves with some Better Than Adventure flavoring.

they'd use the beta-era codebase as a starting point, clean it up, and branch off from there. I think it'd definitely start with a focus on the more survival and progression elements of the game, adding new ore types, weapons, enemies. There'd be a lean towards the harder difficulties in terms of focus.

>>578196993
If progression was tied to grinding, not necessarily limited by resources but the actions done by the player, then Minecraft would feel more like RS. It could be controlled by blocks mined or an XP system, doesn't need to be skills and levels. The rewards would be unlocking crafting recipes, tool usage, building blocks etc. Imagine being limited to oak wood, progressing into birch and then spruce. Farms would have inherit an drawback of not gaining stat-XP without direct player interaction, but it would also open the door for new farm designs. I'd like to see how stat-progression in a sandbox game like Minecraft would turn out, but perhaps it would go against what makes the game fun.

>>578198601
A solo autist already proven you can make something decent out of the old codebase but you have to be clever about it:
https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/minecraft-mods/1294926-themastercavers-world
This one is an anti-farms sperg tho but imagine the possibilities

>>578180667
I haven't played in the snapshots what's the problem with dappled forests?

>>578203291
they spawn incredibly rarely, like ice spikes level of rarity, and replace plains so they'll pretty much always border plains and not forests. and they're almost always incredibly small. so you'll likely almost never see one unless you go looking for them, and if you do find one it'll likely be tiny.

You should be able to use red/orange/yellow dye on a poplar sapling to guarantee the color of the leaves of that tree.

>>578205831
they should just be three different tree types tbdesu. get three new woods instead of one and always know what leaves youll get

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New build

>>578206095
looking good anon

>>578206095
Nice work, the transition from moss to mossy cobble looks surprisingly natural
>>578203458
That's a shame I hope they tweak in the right way before launch

>>578206647
>That's a shame I hope they tweak in the right way before launch
They won't, or they'd have done it by now

>>578207040
Just let me be optimistic prs understandu

>>578206095
i like it.

The fact they haven’t touched the dappled forest at all since the first snapshot is really weird considering all the changes they made to sulfur caves in the last drop. At the very least they need to get rid of that dumb river restriction

>>578210903
I think river borders look cool.

>>578210903
It actually makes perfect sense: they got a ton of criticism over the last drop, because a lot of people didn't care about the cum cube and thought the sulfur caves looked bad; but they've been getting nothing but praise for this drop. They simply don't have to make any changes

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>>578206095
>vanillafags don't have access to kelpy cobblestone
>or kelpy cobblestone bricks
>or kelpy cobblestone tiles
>or kelpy stone bricks
>they've got allays and cushions though
When will you guys riot?

>>578213754
Where do these come from? i'm on my texture stealing phase

>>578214119
These are Raspberry Flavoured overwrites of several textures from the Upgrade Aquatic mod.

>>578158107
256 would be equally as iconic while being more playable.

>>578215023
Too many digits for the UI, mate. Can't have that, mate

can u guys go back to arguing about Quasi Connectivity?
It's inspired my next video to piss off redstoners and say how dumb it is

>>578214559
Nice, i'll check that modpack someday, though that grass is fucking ugly i'll have to work around that.

why is there always an inventory discussion (or two) in a new thread?

>>578217349
Calibrated pistons. That is all

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>>578218594
I'm liking it so far, I'm just autistic about some textures so I think I've spent more time looking at how blocks look than actually playing the game.
But just look at picrel. Left is Quark's "Blackstone bricks" texture. Fucking horrendous. At a glance you'd be hard pressed to tell it apart from a regular blackstone block. Right is my replacement texture.
>that grass is fucking ugly
What don't you like about it? If it's only the side trims, there's a built-in resource pack to switch back to vanilla's.

>>578221203
Something about the sides and top looks ugly with my current settings on long distance screenshots. I textured that out with the built-in RPs and it works for me.

>>578223529
survival mode players are cattle

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This is the singer, it’s face suspiciously resembles the pattern on chiseled deepslate

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for everyone that's been following my 100 days hardcore minecraft forever world and schizo goat screenshot blog series, I regret to inform you that Terraria has been updated.

What does that mean for you? Well I'll probably take a break for a bit, so you'll need to go through the archive for your content. Or I'll be back tomorrow. Idk what's in the update honestly, so if it's shit I'll probably go back to the inferior game.

Why some "people" are against bigger inventory and stacks, are they stupid?

For mod packs that add terraria stuff like Terracraft and Confluence which is the best or funnest?

>im gonna make a resource pack
>but im also gonna force my own shitty texture pack on it as well and make you install a second pack just to override it
why do trannies do this?

>>578235423
why do trannies do anything? attention

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>Still no bed bugs that act as a conditional hostile mob like the silverfish

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>still no ender bussy

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sovl

>>578247424
Crazy that now with LC Emerald launcher you can play Legacy Console Edition almost like if it was Java.

why not

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I've been split for days between playing BTA, b1.7.3. or modern. I just create worlds back on each and delete them. How did you guys settle?

>>578258897
i've been too spoiled by modern niceties, i want to make large scale builds that i think look cool and i would find it a lot more tedious to do it on beta rather than more fun. i played on the xbox360 but i have no nostalgia for old java versions, so it doesn't really do that for me either.
whichever one you find more fun playing, or could see yourself still playing a hundred hours in or a thousand hours in really.

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>>578259136
I too get excited about sinking thousands of hours in a world. I love watching world tours on Youtube. I just need to make up my damn mind lol

I'm testing my new mod. I was so sick of half implemented barely more than visual season mods.

It makes the world an actual changing ecosystem. You have to plan to survive the winters because food is actually scarce and actually matters.

Crops have realistic growth windows. Cattle needs to be taken care of. fields need to be fertilized. shelters need to be build for winter. food spoils and can be preserved. You need to dress for winter, or you'll freeze on cold days. Realistic hours of daylight for each season, so autumn and winter are brutal.

The world actually adapts to the season. Flowers and tall grass grows and decays. leaf litter drops down from trees in autumn.

I added zero new blocks because I hate when modpacks do that.

>>578229726
Stacks of 64 are OK. The only stacks that are a problem are those that do not get up to 64.
The inventory size itself is OK. I never felt like I needed more space.

I'd rather them focus on other QOL improvements, honestly.

>>578265080
All building blocks and items should be 64, thrown items should be bumped to 32, and potions should be 16. That'd already help a ton. I don't get why signs are still 16, it doesn't make any sense with the rest of the game

>>578269130
Agree.

>>578269130
i think 16 is just a tad too much for potions and 8 would be a bit more "fair", but i also don't like the idea of adding new stack sizes to the game. which is also why i'm not a huge fan of throwables being raised to 32, they might as well go to 64. same with pots being raised they might as well go to 16. or, my favorite mod approach is to just have a big flask that's unstackable but holds multiple doses of potions, could be any number you want then really.

>>578270278
32 is already accepted as half a stack, so I don't think that'd feel out of place. I'd rather have 64, but that's a harder sell if Mojang looks at this as a balance problem and 64 ender pearls would just be "too much". I also don't think potions stacking would be much of an issue. Most people don't seem to use them currently, and in PvP minigames you're more limited to how many you're given or can find, rather than how well they stack. I think increasing the stack count would make more people use them, just because they'd be easier to carry around. It's gathering the ingredients that should be the limiting factor in singleplayer, not fiddling around with shulker boxes because they don't stack. Not that I wouldn't happily settle for 8, but a quarter stack feels more appropriate somehow

>>578206095
I'd throw in a couple of cracked stone bricks and maybe some mossy ones if they're near the moss

>>578258897
I started playing in release 1.5 so thats what I play.
Horses were the beginning of the end imo

>>578229726
>>578265080
64 stack is iconic enough to MC even if it's just a coding quirk and not a MC exclusive.
The inventory most certainly can be expanded on already. When you get down to building it's not nearly enough
Alternatively we could have an interface that lets you pick if the block is a stair/wall/slab ect before placing it. but mojang is very anti-ui because other mobile/console platforms. Look how much drama they caused with the bundle which is as simple as it gets to implement. Another option would be a chisel type of deal like terraria has letting you edit the shape of a block after placing it
Whatever the case is there's a big inventory problem while building, there's too many blocks now each with their own shape set of stairs/slabs ect. Even with shulkers the process of building is very very tedious. It's a building game it should not be this problematic, even the creative mode menu is extremely limiting, you have to preset multiple hotbars for it to feel smooth and that's nowhere near enough space for all the blocks

>>578249470
>almost like if it was Java
Damn, it runs that badly?

>>578276182
shoo shoo bedrock cuck

>>578275545
Nooooooooo, you don't understaaaand. Minecraft is Minecraft. Stop trying to make it some other game. Forcing the player to use a new UI is waaaaaaaaaay too much work for the retarded fanbase and for the fanboys.

>>578258897
>b1.7.3
If only mining wasn't so boring I'm sure I would enjoy BTA a lot better.

>>578262313
At this point why not just play Vintage Story?

>>578275545
64 is iconic, but I don't think anyone cares about the 27 slots of a chest. This would be a perfect situation to increase each row to 10 slots, which would also give us one more hotbar slot to work with. I think everyone would appreciate a small buff to chests and shulkers

>>578281340
alright, i probably wouldn't hate that actually. a few more slots in chests and shulkers would be fine.

Why isn't there a backpack which gives you a double chest worth of inventory in it?
It would replace your elytra so it would help nerf that.

>but shulker boxes!!
Both have their own uses still. There's no harm in having more options for fixing the inventory problem in the game. It's a more fantasy-like solution to shulkerboxes too, what kind of exploration fantasy doesn't have carry bags

they should let you take stuff out of shulkers in your inventory like you can with bundles

my inventory fix ideas
>Add new Deep Pockets enchantment for pants that has three levels. Each level adds another row to the inventory
>Backpack that can be worn instead of a chestplate to give you an extra side inventory
>Can middle click an empty space on your hotbar on a block to pull that item out of a shulker box in your inventory if you have no more of that item in your inventory
>Add ender bundle that will automatically add items to itself instead of the inventory when picked up, if one of the item is already in there
>The quiver should be added back into the game to hold your different arrow types, and you could quickly switch between arrow types using a hotkey or weapon wheel
>A new end game item should be added to store all your weapons/tools and you could quickly switch between them using a hotkey or weapon wheel
>Add a chisel which can turn blocks into their other forms (stairs, slabs, and walls) after they have already been placed. You can still craft stairs, slabs, and walls the normal way if you prefer

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>>578282457
It's dumb there isn't even a hover preview for all the contents of a shulker or bundle. That's the bare basics of what it should be doing.
Wdym I have to dump the entire bundle or place the shulker to check what's in that? It's meant to help with ease of inventory why is it so troublesome

>>578283851
the vanilla way is to have cumbersome, obtuse solutions to problems. if it were too easy and had no friction, like most backpack mod implementations, it would not be vanilla.
see also: adding shit like the happy ghast or nautilous. instead of adding enchantments or items that allow you to hover or swim faster, you have to tard wrangle entities.

>>578284124
>the vanilla way is to have cumbersome, obtuse solutions to problems
kek

>>578283851
they couldn't get it to work on bedrock and that's the only version Microsoft cares about, so basic QoL additions allowed in java

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>>578284124
A full preview is still super vanilla I don't get it. It doesn't need a hotkey or anything for mobile/console versions, it's just a hover like they already have. They already preview but only 5 items then it says +more. So why not preview all the items and show them visually?

>>578284654
so NO basic QoL...*

>>578282457
100%

>>578284654
Bugrock needs to be scrapped at this point it's a genuine embarrassment how bad it is. Microsoft sunkcost into it and will refuse to admit their vibecode sucks

>>578284702
It's honestly kind of baffling that they didn't use the bundle as an opportunity to rework shulker boxes. They could use the exact same code, just make bundles work with items and shulkers with slots

>>578285216
sadly will never happen as the marketplace makes them too much money from retarded children. trying to achieve parity between java and bedrock is the worst decision mojang has ever made outside of adding an end to the game

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>>578285216
The problem is that it still generates enough money to keep most of Xbox afloat. It's like Pokemon; why fix what doesn't make you broke?

>Refuse to add stuff to java because muh bedrock compatibility
>Half the stuff in bedrock works completely different anyway though?
Why's it rules for me not for thee

>>578286668
Because Microsoft doesn't want Bedrock players to see news about Java getting stuff they're not getting. It's that simple. Parity only matters in marketing

>>578206095
Looks great, but why is the moss so bright? Is it just because of the dark forest grass color contrast?

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Where are the arguing autists when you need them?

>>578303128
i can post some bait if you want

"blockvomit" looks good and people who shit on it are just coping and mad theyre not talent enough to use it well

>>578303429
It may look good but it's completely immersion-breaking. And builds look good without it too.

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>>578303273
>>578303429
Is that it? I'm offended.

>>578303429
It can look good from a distance, which works great for thumbnails or screenshots. When you're actually playing the game you often get a lot closer to your builds, which is when it looks awful

Does anyone play Minecraft on their phone? How is it? I'm traveling for work and getting the itch.

>>578303429
Blockvomit is for people who are too dumb to learn how make blender models so they use minecraft instead.

>>578275367
You may want to play this if you ever feel like scratching the itch of some extra content:
https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/minecraft-mods/1294926-themastercavers-world
As an 1.2.5 enthusiast i find it interesting, woldgen is fairly balanced and throughout, is more challenging but not too much, and there's an intended repairability cycle that doesn't involve modern Mending. It has some minor bugs here and there though.

>>578310594
it's bedrock edition. it's shit. it's worse than classic PE edition, but because bedrock ui and design is essentially geared towards being played on phones by children first and consoles a distant second, it's probably the best way to play bugrock if you absolutely had to. my advice, don't bother. it takes forever to do anything because you're fighting the controls, you'll probably die to a bug or two or three, and even if you dont you're probably getting killed by a skeleton because you can't move and swing at the same time.

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>>578206095
The dry grass makes for a really nice wheat effect that isn't a pain in the ass to maintain.
>>578206647
Yeah they work really well together, I don't usually like block vomit builds but that combo just works so well, and especially for smaller builds block vomit is pretty much required otherwise everything looks flat.
>>578292469
I'd guess so, I really don't like dark oak forests, especially the grass colour, but can't really do much about it, I wish you could change biome grass colour somehow in vanilla.

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>>578320238
>for smaller builds block vomit is pretty much required otherwise everything looks flat.
completely disagree, block vomit looks absolutely fucking horrid on smaller builds specifically. pulling up pic related as an example of this.
bigger builds it's both easier to have well defined shapes organically, but also easier to have a gradient in it without it looking like shit on a canvas.
your build looks a little flat and i think could have done with some more shaping instead of/in addition to the texturing or whatever, but i like the block choices and the gradient and i mostly think it works out nicely.

>>578310594
It's good, I remember playing it as a kid. Of course, like with any control scheme for 3D games, touch controls can suck to learn as an adult at first if you're not used to them from other games, but you can bring along any controller. It's also possible to play Java Edition on your phone if you prefer that.
>>578315885
>it's worse than classic PE edition
How can it be worse? Isn't it the same as back then? There's also a modernised control option as default.
>you'll probably die to a bug or two or three
The bugs on bedrock are exaggerated. It's worse than java, but they're quite rare.
>and even if you dont you're probably getting killed by a skeleton
They fixed skeletons being too OP on Bedrock.
>because you can't move and swing at the same time.
Yes you can.

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>>578321037
Even though I think the block vomit goes way too far on that build I still think it would look worse without the block vomit just because the scale is so small that it would look flat otherwise because you just can't create proportional depth at that scale.
Pic rel for an example, the building in the back has no block vomit, and I can create depth because the offsets from a block or a wall or a fence are not going to overwhelm the build while the build in the foreground is smaller (7x5 footprint) and if i were to add in depth with walls or blocks (like adding in some corner supports) they would completely overwhelm the scale.
The criticism that my build is a bit flat still is fair but that's in part my inspiration was some scottish buildings and castles and they just sort of look like that.

>>578321037
>>578325059
Depth can absolutely work at small scale. You just have to be careful of not overdoing it. Bdubs' golem house is flat as shit.
Add a roof overhang and a base foundation of cobble or stonebrick and you have a ton more depth without the need for coral

>>578324070
>They fixed skeletons being too OP on Bedrock.
Years ago, Drowned used to spawn like crazy even in very tiny water holes. I wonder if it's still a thing.

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>Everyone just took up and left

The server is still open, people.

69.41.172.83:29607

>>578320238
>I wish you could change biome grass colour somehow in vanilla
You can with data packs, but I'm guessing you're talking about in-game. Maybe if we ever get a biome converter block in the future

>>578327854
No, there have been very recent fixes I saw the Bedrock community rejoice over.
>Skeletons now shoot arrows with difficulty-based attack intervals instead of distance-scaled intervals, making them easier to take down.
>Skeletons’ difficulty-based attack intervals now match Java Edition, making them even easier to take down.
>Arrow damage from skeletons now depends on its velocity and difficulty, rather than being randomized between a range.

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Who cares about block vomit
What do we think about using concrete stairs as lego bricks

>>578333004
We need concrete buttons to complete the look

I'm too fucking stupid to be good at anything

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Here's your content.

>>578335152
I'd be really surprised if doc isn't a full blown tranny by the end of the year. which really sucks because, as much as I hate him personally, he's one of the only youtubers left who shows off crazy technical builds, and if he goes full trans I will have to finally stop watching him

>>578336276
Pretty sure he's had these gay-as-fuck thumbnails for years now, and I've yet to see any change in him. Though I don't actually watch his videos anymore

Common sense changes to the game that everyone should be able to agree with:
>Minecart buff: current gold recipe for powered rails are changed to "high power rails" and can go really fast, current rails turn to "low powered rails" and are made with copper.
>Phantoms: Phantoms are either removed from the game entirely or are changed to so that they spawn when you sleep *too* much (seriously is Mojang retarded, why are they punishing players for playing for building environments where mobs can't spawn, this is the opposite of encouraging game design)
>Remove the Anvil "too expensive" limit and remove the stupid combining orders.
>Beacon range scales with how expensive the beacon base is.
Nothing in here is disagreeable other than "these changes don't go far enough".

>>578342143
You can simplify it further
>Minecart: copper minecarts that move faster than iron minecarts
>Phantom: spawns at night like any other monster

>>578342143
>Minecart buff
>You know those 20 stacks of powered rails you crafted and placed 2 weeks ago after days of gold mining? Yeah, sorry, they're all gonna copper now, should've saved your gold.
>Phantoms
If the phantom didn't win, like with the other loser mobs, we might have had insomnia implemented in a different way anyway. Minecraft survival mode is a survival game and it needs to lean more heavily into that. Sleep is essential for survival, so you should be punished in some way for not sleeping.

>>578343161
>should've saved your gold.
For what?

>>578344623
To craft "high power rails".

>>578344863
Aw fuck I didn't read anon's post thoroughly.
>>578342143
That's fucking retarded, anon. Current rails should become "high power rails."

>>578345013
But then a lot of contraptions that use minecarts and rollercoaster jumps break, because the timing breaks if you change the speed. This is an issue people are trying to solve. Personally, if you want to involve copper, I think the best solution is to be able to upgrade golden powered rails with copper.

>>578346356
I don't care at all about minecarts. But the aegument
>it will break xyz
Seems dumb to me. Isn't that the point of being able to choose the version you play on? If it will break your turbodildo contraption then just stay in the version that works.

>>578353371
No, they want players to always play on the latest version, and they put a lot of effort into making sure things don't break between versions. It's the default option on Java to always play the latest release and Bedrock doesn't even have an option. Why would they want to make people not want to update their world?
They don't make drastic changes like that. As long as something doesn't rely on a bug, it should work in any future version.

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>>578329017
common occurrence around /mcg/, whenever someone makes a new server for people to play on and the server owner is never around people just stop playing on it because it feels like a waste of time in that the server owner has just abandoned it so it'll be gone in a few weeks or so

it's why most people prefer single player

>you have to do mental gymnastics to make a sand farm, otherwise you have to travel gorillion blocks to mine a whole ass desert to make lots of TNT
I am this " " close to changing gamemode to creative; get me a couple of stacks of TNT, throw away all the 100s of gunpowder stacks I have (I have a creeper farm), and destroy what I want, I don't want to waste all my sand on TNT.

>>578329017
Does this accept cracked accounts?

>>578368932
At this point is easier to fucking mod it yourself and make husks drop sand or something (mod being an overstatement because a datapack that changes a loot table is hardly coding, more like editing an annoying verbose configuration file, there's this website called Misode that can generate the bulk of that configuration for you even).

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>Spend a week bashing my head against my lazyness so i can finally mod useless shit but decoration™ into the game
>I don't feel like really playing for now cause work burnout
>Can't really store this anywhere except a tarball inside my personal backups because all textures are stolen
Maybe i can create "Programmer Art" versions for all of these. Wonder how much would it cost.

>>578324070
>How can it be worse? Isn't it the same as back then?
Not sure about them but the main nitpick i have with Bedrock is the UI, compared with LCE is ugly as fuck and sometimes unintuitive, like options that you would expect to be easily available are inside submenues, and viceversa
>>578320238
Is dry grass actually available in vanilla now? i don't keep up with all features Mojang adds

I like this game

>>578379641
Yeah? Well, I DON'T!

There, I said it. I'm still gonna keep playing it tho.

>>578379641
mojang bootlicker

>>578379641
I also like the game - only b1.7.3 specifically

>>578156420
>>578162419
>bigger inventory
>bigger stack sizes
render Shulkers and Enderchests useless

>>578282323
lrn2inventory management

>>578368932
you can convert to moss then shovel instead of using TNT sometimes

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How do resource packs work? Are they loaded in the same order they appear on the list?
If so, then I should put the vanillatweaks stuff under the default packs, right?

>>578353371
It's an important consideration, but I don't think it should stand in the way of major updates. It's why I'd rather see the current minecarts and rails left as they are, and have new ones made from copper that have different attributes. You could even use each oxidation stage to give different speed or acceleration values to copper minecarts

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>>578374940
>Is dry grass actually available in vanilla now?
Yes

>>578385946
>render Shulkers and Enderchests useless
Absolutely not. You'd need to make the inventory like 100 times as large, or let items stack to 9999, to make shulkers obsolete, and even then people would likely use ender chests for certain items they only need occasionally. If it was up to me, I'd only add 3 rows to the player's inventory, to match a large chest, and at most raise stack sizes to 256

USAnarchy.net is the new /V/craft server for those who play multiplayer.

>>578387015
Stuff at the top takes priority over stuff below it. If you put them below the default pack then the default pack would take priority over your tweaks and they wouldn't work.

>>578390505
Thank you.

Exploring caves is fun, but it's also kind of a pain in the ass due to all the twists and turns. It's all so confusing. How do you orient yourselves in caves? At the beginning it's easy, but once you've explored quite a bit, it becomes more and more difficult to find the way to the surface or to find unexplored paths.

>>578393413
caves I usually yolo since i end up digging up to exit rather than backtracking. but for mineshafts and the stronghold I block the ways I've been. you could apply the same logic to caves when backtracking after clearing a path

>>578393413
In conventional mazes, you can use the right hand rule to always find the exit. The same thing can be applied to Minecraft.

In tunnels, always place torches on the LEFT wall when exploring the unknown. When you want to go out, follow the right hand rule: torches should be on your RIGHT to find the EXIT.

>>578394638
I always place my torches on the right wall. Fuck you, lefties.

>>578393413
I don't know why it works the way it does but my brain records the routes and directions I've traveled both in game and real life so I can always retrace my steps to get back to wherever I was. I've also got this strange sense for knowing which way is North or South, like a built in compass so that's probably what helps me not get lost

You can always just dig straight up and use the blocks you break to climb higher till you reach the surface if you're desperate to escape from underground

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>>578403370
Maybe one of your grandparents was secretly a bird

>>578395507
Quite the contrary. The left takes you into the unknown, into darkness, into creatures that want to kill and rape you. The right takes you home, towards safety, towards the light.

>>578408365
>Fuck you, lefties
>Quite the contrary. The left takes you into creatures that want to rape you
I don't see the contradiction

>>578408813
If you place torches on the right wall, then the situation is reversed. I was telling >>578395507 that you should place torches on the left because then the left takes you towards rape.

>>578408365
>The left takes you into the unknown, into darkness, into creatures that want to kill and rape you. The right takes you home, towards safety, towards the light.
wtf i just watched that one wifies arg video last night

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making undergound water tunnel, just want to have a more believable island with roads forking into different directions, so far i just mined top part of the tunnel, so that i can do ceiling with ease, rather than later having to place dirt or scaffolding

Is there a way to improve the visibility of dropped items? Like giving them a glow or something like that.

>>578415626
A data pack could apply the glow effect to all item entities, I guess. Should be fairly easy to set up

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>>578415626
Maybe this will do https://modrinth.com/mod/target-entity

>>578369218
>Misode
You don't know how much I thank you for telling me about this site. I just made a datapack that adds 3 new crafting recipes: one for TNT, one for dirt, and one for shulkers. I always thought datapacks were something like mods, where if you install one, it edits your world, and if you delete the mod, it might break certain parts of your world or straight up corrupt it, but datapacks apparently do not, I just tested it on a test world, and it works fine after removing the datapacks. THANK YOU ANON!

>>578385482
yeah b1.7.3's pretty good. But it lacks iron bars and fence gates.

>>578423190
Mods don't do that. I mean, if a mod adds a block or a mob, of course it will be deleted if you remove it, but that also basically happens with data packs. If you just get a mod that adds a recipe, it's just about the same thing as a data pack.

>>578385482
>>578385946
You may want to check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSLuGK0yHrw
From 2.0 and upwards they used the new world save format though not the actual beta one, in order to reduce the chances of world corruption. You'll have to import any existing beta world in v1.1 or previous versions and see if they migrate over.

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>>578423595
BTA has Steel Glass (closest thing to iron bars), fence gates, and a bunch of other shit.

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idk what to do in my world after beating the enderdragon and getting elytra

>>578426847
build shit
if that doesnt sound like your cup of tea i think youd be better served by other games

>>578426486
>Steel Glass
mesh block and steel fences are closer

>>578427234
Yeah, I'm just feeling uninspired atm

>>578426847
build a large toilet

any good examples if pixel art being incorporated into builds instead of being its own separate thing?

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>>578426847
Build

>>578426847
Sounds like you're more interested in progression and survival aspect. Consider games like Palworld if you want 3D and didn't go for Terraria because it's 2D.

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>>578426847
Look up AI generated builds for minecraft and get to work trying to recreate them in your world

>>578437760
go away

>>578437760
stay and ignore the fag above

>>578439479
samefag. you have a million slop threads. go shit in them not here

>>578438746
>>578439950
There is no sane reason to be this mad at a suggestion for someone who can't build, are you upset at the mention of AI? It's topic related and AI builds have been suggested here many times before, it's why I suggested it to someone else as it was to me not too long ago for an underground base idea. If you don't like AI or it bothers you enough to bring you to tears then get off the Internet or find a time machine and go back 10 years on repeat

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>>578439950
>samefag
wrong

>>578437760
>>578439479
>>578440748
what benefit does AI offer here though? if you want builds to look to as inspiration theres over a decades worth of pictures of actual builds on the internet, and they wont run into the problem of using hallucinated nonexistent blocks that would confuse a new player

unless the point is that theyre not 1:1 actual minecraft things, but then id say there are millennias worth of actual buildings you can look at. AI sloppa is just a shitty middle ground that works worse as either type of inspiration

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>>578442761
He's - I mean, I'm - correct, actually

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>>578428006
i have this in the entrance hall to my library, not sure if thats the sort of thing you meant

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what's the most fun modpack to play

>>578444409
Because the build looks minecraft-like and therefore is easier and more interesting to emulate.
Replicating real buildings in Minecraft fucking SUCKS if you don't go absolutely massive scale.

>>578446514
most imaginative AI sloptard

>>578446572
Yet you're the one who has absolutely nothing of value to say except repeating same ad hominem, while ignoring arguments.
You're below AI that you hate so much.

>>578445851
many would say that it's the one you assemble yourself

>>578444609
Is this a complementary shader? The lanterns are nice

>>578444409
>anon asks question about what to do in game
>other anon suggests what original anon can do in game
>get butt hurt and spam off topic rant about people offering suggestions
this game and this general are not for you, you have the wrong type of autism that no one likes which means you're not welcome here

>>578449808
yeah, complementary reimagined

>>578450228
ai slop offers nothing of value here get lost

>>578459603
take your off topic meltdown back to /v/ and let people talk about minecraft in the minecraft thread, this place is dead enough without retards like you desperately trying to deter people from posting. no one cares that ai art makes you shit your pants, talk about the game or fuck off out of my general

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Open to ideas of what to do with the surroundings for this build, I built it last year and really like the design but I think I picked a terrible spot for it, its so big and just completely overpowers the surroundings and id rather not build terrain.

>>578445851
IMO is Meatballcraft or Blightfall, perhaps Enigmatica 2 Expert. Some people swear Raspberry Flavored but looks like modern bloat.

>>578426847
you beat the game, time to play something else

>>578467274
did you build that in survival? it's gorgeous. I'd start by adding some foliage around it and maybe some roads and then go from there if you find a spot that looks good for another building

>>578467274
You could have big storm drain/sewer pipes sticking out of the cliff face, dumping water into the ocean
One of those big outlying rocks could have a lighthouse
The flat area could be used for a courtyard, castle gardens, hedge rows, short trees, etc.

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>>578467274
Expand on it like this. You have oceans nearby and the 2 landmasses can be your bridges
>https://minecraftbuildinginc.com/atlantide/

>>578467274
Add some grass or trees surronding the castle, it feels super flat. Maybe some patrols or guarding outposts

Bump

>>578467274
fucking hell, nice work anon

>>578440748
>>578446514
Are you actually serious? Trying to build from a sloppy AI inage like that in Minecraft is harder than just using a real life image, because the blocks don't align to the grid and it's impossible to recreate, it's an exercise in frustration. With a real image you can simply improvise because it will never be 100% accurate. Might as well look at a real build if you want it to be easy to recreate. You're choosing the worst of both worlds.

>>578503243
>because the blocks don't align to the grid and it's impossible to recreate
That's the point dumbass. You aren't meant to replicate it perfectly but get very close. Which is very possible in this case. Not with real image, you will always be far off from that.

>>578505353
>You aren't meant to replicate it perfectly but get very close
im not sure i see the value in specifically this over actual minecraft builds or real buildings, but unironically if this is what youre looking for search up picture of lego buildings people have made

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>>578505571
Why does it matter if it's real photos, video-game architecture, Minecraft builds, Lego, or AI? Inspiration is inspiration

>>578505967
ai bad >:(

>>578510098
this but unironically

>>578510098
this but ironically

>>578510098
not this but still

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Come cave with me and let's build a base together.

69.41.172.83:29607

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>>578518765

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>>578510098
this but i dont need to specify im being "unironic" because im not a zoomer whos afraid of sincerity

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>>578228791
You'll come back crawling. You'll see.

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>>578539668
>inferior game
Leave and never come back

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I don't get the point of playing online if we're all just gonna go our separate ways and not build together.

>>578552653
I think it's letting people see what you built. Not everyone's gonna post their SP world on youtube or social media to showcase their world. so your world is just for (You) at that point there's no clout chasing so it kills some peoples motivation by playing "solo"
I know when I'm on servers if I come across a base I usually snoop around. Especially modded servers you can see how they set up their machines or power tech. I've gotten inspiration for how to set up/build that better

>>578552653
some people dont want to build in a plains biome, but still want to play on a server for what that other anon said of showing off their own builds to others in person, and also exploring and looking at other people's builds, even if not all the builds are right next to each other. could also be a bit of insecurity or not wanting to try and mesh with other people's builds and wanting to do their own thing and stuff.

ded gaem
ded general

>>578561687
show me its body

>>578552653
I don't get the point of playing online.

>>578552653
building separately is kind of the norm for servers ime. all working on builds together can be messy and annoying (and not really work if theres not a concerted effort to be on at the same time), and be frustrating if you arent on the same page/have different styles or ideas for the direction of the build (especially likely with an autist-heavy community like 4 channel dot org)

working on your own areas in your own time but still being able to see what others are up to/having some communal spaces/exchanging resources is the sweet spot i find

>>578561687
I think it's time to stop updooting this game, too much bloat, they never improved redstone because of the factory autists crying about their exploited mechanics not working anymore, so they just keep adding shitty mobs and useless decorative blocks

>>578555957
>>578556283
>>578569019
Back in December 2010 I used to play on a 4chan related server where each player had to build an apartment in a mountain before they were allowed to wander off. It was fun and it was a good and friendly community. One player went around and typed "us channers" in the chat. There was a mob-trap that we were all allowed to gather resources from.

Good times.

I'd like to recreate that on here if possible.

>>578423190
I'm going balls deep and just learning how to write mods with mixins so I can finally have renewable calcite (by injecting another lava + water hardening on top of x block behavior). Something simple like this shouldn't be hard to vibe-port into newer versions every time Fabric or Mojang changes something. Because you can make me learn how vanilla implements something but you're not going to make me bother following pointless API changes.

>>578571482
>vibe-port
kys

>>578552653
For me the point of playing online was always the community and never what I did on that server. I had a mate on a server at one point, and we'd go on Plug.dj while we were just jumping around the protected spawn area talking about fuck all for hours on end. There was a parkour at the spawn that we'd mastered because of it. It was like speedruns in that we were constantly trying to get a couple of tenths on one another
I only do single player now and Plug.dj is gone now. I miss those days sometimes

>>578573326
>There was a parkour at the spawn
building parkour into my builds, or just having fun 'courses' to run over rooftops in my builds is always one of my favorite things. more fun than standing around a storage room waiting for ideas to hit.
(you), anyone reading this, should have some fun parkour to do in your world

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>>578573576
That same server I played on eventually had a seperate world where the owner downloaded some mirror's edge parkour world. Same thing happened again and we had a dozen people going at it all the time. Which led to us all creating our own city parkour map, pic related. Dates back to 2013

>>578573576
Not full parkour but I like having multiple ways around a build similar to that. It's more fun than only having 1 access path

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>>578539668
you think? I'm having a lot of fun :)

>>578151843
Bump

3 out of my 4 frogs run away FFUUUUCCCKKKKKKKK

>>578426847
Make farms i have a rabbit farm and a turtle farm

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How do you guys make your bases aesthetically pleasing or cool to look at? My base looks like a prison complex

>>578599536
based villager slaver

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>>578599536
Also here's my turtle farm

>>578151843
>Use this resource pack to remove all new skins (Alex came out 11 years ago, sorry)
>https://arweave.net/-ESwheeDiXbTpmFBqIhAb9ZtOqZoDRuYxY9WoOOv_nQ/[MC]%20Classic%20Skins.zip
>404.
>Page cannot be found.
Does anyone have this?

>>578605991
Nevermind, found it https://modrinth.com/resourcepack/f...-to-new-skins

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>mumbo showing everyone the pictures he made of their bases
>literally every single person either just makes a joke or just gives a quick description of what they were going for design-wise
>except for grian, who goes on at length with cloying sincerity about how his base is literally perfect and he did such a good job with it and its so amazing he doesnt even want to add anything else to it

>>578571482
It's not hard to do it without vibe coding, either, and it means you're far more likely to spot errors before something goes wonky in your world. Usually any update will only move or rename some method, so you can easily hunt it down again by context

t. been keeping my mods up to date since 1.21.4

>>578588241
Why are you mixing different type of wood? I'm bothered

>>578616761
to add to this, AI is dogshit at coding for [current minecraft version]. theres fuck all indexable documentation out there for up-to-date fabric versions and even if there were, it updates to frequently for it to make it into AI's training data and filter down (and also have the AI not get mixed up hallucinating between every version of minecraft ever)

>>578617085
To be fair, I've used AI a lot and it frequently steers me right. But it also frequently takes me a few tries of having to tell it that X registry doesn't exist, or that Y function isn't available, in order to get there. Still massively more helpful than whatever Discord channel you're "supposed" to go to

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bump

hello I would like cushion

>>578617262
>But it also frequently takes me a few tries of having to tell it that X registry doesn't exist, or that Y function isn't available, in order to get there. Still massively more helpful than whatever Discord channel you're "supposed" to go to
>its constantly wrong but if you just accept that actually its really useful
when will the AI cope stop?

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when did bdoubs become so bad at building?

>>578627471
Bad? What are you talking about? There's so much detail in that build. You can tell because there's so many different blocks next to each other. That adds detail. And texture.
I dont think that building is as bad as the golem house vomit, but holy fuck that tree is disgusting. So is mixing leaves like the way he did.

>>578625120
Try to read the post before you reply next time. I wrote "in order to get there", meaning I do reach the desired result eventually. Meanwhile, in your average Discords, it's usually
>hey, can someone help me with X?
>*7 off-topic posts*
>"anyone knows how X works?"
>"did you try [completely unhelpful advice]?
>"yeah, and it didn't help. my problem is [more in-depth explanation]
>*15 off-topic posts, original guy has disappeared*
Fuck that

>>578628617
Oh yeah, if you ask for help in a retarded way without fully explaining your problem first in non help channels, you are going to look like a retard and not get help. That is true. Thankfully, you can just get brain damage talking to a chatbot instead that will praise you no matter what, not actually inform you how to fix anything, give you broken terrible advice, and bloat your code for no reason. Please, stop posting here.

>>578627471
He's great at building, just lousy at texturing because he's approaching it as if he's painting, trying to add shadow and highlight by using blocks that have the right tone, regardless of whether they actually fit with any of the other blocks in the build

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Nether Quartz Parthenon progress

>>578628879
mmmm, reflective.

>>578627471
>>578628757
the thing is, his builds do look great....from a certain angle and distance. but when you see them outside of that optimal location, they look messy and incoherent. that kind of building style just doesn't work in a game where you are going to be seeing that build from every possible distance and angle

>>578628751
You anti-AI people are hilariously stupid. Maybe if you learned to read, you'd be able to use AI without going into a copy-paste trance like some sort of monkey having its brain zapped by scientists
>what do you mean you can use AI to look up documentation and aggregate search results and then write your own code using the AI answer as reference?

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Look at this dude