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Cat In A Box Edition

AI Dynamic Storytellers are games that use text & image-generation AI to create limitless, open-ended, interactive fiction.

Last Thread: >>577675559

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>(03/07) Anon updates his frontend: >>559652987 https://files.catbox.moe/930fvy.html
>(02/05) Emacs Update: https://files.catbox.moe/6r6wxg.el
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thanks anon, too many customers at this time of day
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>TFW having to gen without my vibe transfers and every artist looks roughly the same
Man, it just goes to show what a prudish shithole Danbooru is, there's effectively zero interesting or charming artstyles on there with any substantial data besides like, Khyle and Genc. Anyone else feeling it?
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>>578311114
search for "no_humans -pokemon" and try some of those artists, there's landscapes on danbooru
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>>578311231
Yeah, but those are leaning more painterly, I'm moreso after like "solid_oval_eyes + blush_stickers" type stuff, cute styles are very cute. Or like really sleek Panty and Stocking type stuff with thick lines and half circle eyes with ringed pupils or whatever.
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>>578311561
are you already using the low complexity tag in NAI? i haven't messed with the complexity tags yet though so maybe it's worthless
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>>578311659
It's... well, it's not great. It outputs basically "default anything v3 style but with jiitome and artistic errors", it seems to fall into that danbooru trap of "the only way to categorize low detail art = low rating art", so errors abound. Spoilering for fat, so don't click if you don't like it, but it shows what I mean perfectly. That body looks like a gen straight from like, 2023.
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>already down to 39% just trying to figure out how to unfuck my usual artist mixes (still work in progress)
>haven't even started testing out whether it can handle crazy /d/ shit
I hate this shit so much bros. If the model worked well right out of the box, I wouldn't mind it as much.
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>>578312902
I'm only down to 86% with 10k anlas, but yeah, this is a little bit of a pain. I'm just trying to tweak prompts as I go.
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>It got worse at my fetish
It's Nover....
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Quota limits aren't a problem when they amount to a day of intense (by a person's standards) usage + 30% or more extra usage on top of that for peace of mind so you aren't pressed to keep a constant eye on it. Below that, they start to bite.
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>>578312363
Getting somewhere, I think. The faces are still a bit uncanny.
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How do prompt chunks work, exactly? What're the use cases for them, and are there any examples of prompts?
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What's new in the hood my niggas?
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>>578315106
https://docs.novelai.net/en/image/promptchunks
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>>578315403
Oh, that's lame. It's just a space saver? I was hoping it'd be a way to have more control over a scene.
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>>578315714
space saver but also they're persistent, so if you tend to prompt the same character a lot i guess they save time especially if it's an OC
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>>578315868
I've never bothered with putting in OCs here, if I did my caterpillar girl OC and described her as accurately as possible, it'd give me a different girl every time. I might try again on v5, maybe the consistency is better.
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>>578310814
>I THINK V5 SUCKS!
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>>578314260
Update: It's actually way BETTER at my fetish than I thought, it was just worse at it in the way I most like it. Which still kinda sucks.
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what causes this artifacting? the vertical lines
this is a 100% size crop from an enhanced image
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So, what characters and franchises are new in the step up from 4.5 to v5?
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>>578315714
It's a time saver, especially for character specific things
For example, one of my prompt chunks is the negative tags that get added when you randomize a character (lowres, aliasing) but you have to manually put in otherwise.
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>>578322234
it's the difference from april(?) 2025 to ~may-july 2026
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>gens look weird
>notice that position is set to "custom"
>click edit positions
>position is set all the way to the left, up against the border of the canvas
?????????
i didn't fucking do that
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>>578322234
For me it's Kit Bodega.
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>>578322234
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>make a style i like in vt in v4.5
>none of the artists are on danbooru/e621 so v5 cant replicate it
>have to wait ??? until vt
fuck is there anything i can do
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A failed artist mixing experiment.
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the images are so good now that i genuinely dont wanna share my images so my prompts dont get stolen ...
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>>578324476
>donut steel!
retard
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>>578324476
If anyone is "stealing" anything, they are probably poaching prompts from the public explore.
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>>578324476
same....
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>>578322234
Well, I at least know Hundred Line is in it.
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>>578323870
Mess with your fetish/favorite positions/etc. to see how they work best in v5. My top tier prompt for making my fetish work in V4 didn't do so in V5, to the point where I figured it didn't work, until I experimented with it quite a bit (assuming the model was smarter helped quite a bit) and now it's doing it better than 4.5 ever did.
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For some reason it's totally fucking up Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring in v5. It keeps giving her a fox tail, long hair, and bangs. I can correct the bangs & length but it still pushes a bow onto her waist and an overly fluffy tail. It also repeatedly draws her in the same artstyle if I remove artist tags. What the fuck is going on with that? How does it consistently get the same details wrong?
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>>578327029
kek
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>>578327809
The title generation feature is honestly so underrated, 9/10 times the random titles it gives my stories are pure gold.
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>>578327029
Coming this fall to ABC!
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>>578326862
might be something fucky with their backend currently i had a few images get stuck on really bad compositions until i swapped styles and refreshed
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It’s that time again for a test only I give a shit about
CAN
IT
TANK?
Picked random tanks and just threw the names at it and doing 5 rounds per tank name (no “tank” or “military vehicle” in the prompt). V5 is noticeably better at clocking tank names as tanks instead of inventing random nonsense.
Results so far:
T-55AM1
Actually consistent Cold War Soviet looking tank. Camo scheme stayed the same across gens.
AMX 30
Same nonsensical aircraft every single time.
Olifant Mk 1
Makes tanks in a realistic style, but zero consistency on the vehicle.
Stridsvagn 101
Same deal tanks, just never the same one twice.
Bernardini MB-3 Tamoyo
Clockwork city full of pipes.
Type 74
Always some similar superstructure viewed from below.
Sho’t
Brown washed-out city, either a tower in the middle or a big split down the center, always cloudy.
M48 Patton
Tanks with absurdly busy turrets covered in weapons, people, or random tech garbage.
Cruiser Mk. I
Extremely consistent. Same tank over and over from different angles/locations. German markings and colors for some reason.
Jagdtiger
Incorrect Tiger I looking thing, usually sitting in a ruined city.
Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. D
Fucky looking Panzer IV. (If you just prompt “Panzer IV” it does a mid GuP version.)
SU-76
Dinky little tank every time (this is the one in the image).
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I always find it funny how there's an unspoken rule that with every AI thing, like 90% of what people use it for is cooming. Even with all our intelligence we're still silly monkey people
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>discord filled with promplets crying that their old prompts dont work perfectly with v5
i would neck if i worked with anlantan and had to deal with that
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>>578329529
Some work fine enough, but it's a serious mixed bag
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>My favorite furnazi artist doesn't work on v5
It's joever
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>>578329529
maybe that'll intermingle with the gen limit crowd and get them to laxen it up a bit if only for the sake of being able to experiment more over the weekend
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>>578329529
>mfw I barely had to adjust anything
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>>578329758
Most of mine work surprisingly well, but it's probably because I never schizo prompt with thousands of quality tags etc
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>>578330063
Clearly you don't have a weird fetish or enjoy strange poses :') Jealous...
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Fake artist names seem to produce consistent results again.
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>>578326862
specify "Yu-Gi-Oh!" in the main prompt and "duel monster" in the character prompt and it helps immensely
Or just throw them both in the main prompt if you don't want to deal with characters idc
I did have to downbias "tail" though, I bet there's an artist out there fucking it up
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>>578330051
>t. 1girl, big boobs slopper
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>>578330589
Sick, time to bust out the ghostbusters phone number again
>>578330679
hey now, I like handsome men and monsters AND big tittied women
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>>578330589
any good ones?
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>>578330613
My schizophrenic conspiracy theory is that since Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring was a difficult tag for older NAI models to parse (it was fixed with v4.5), someone on staff took notice of it and had one of their "official artists" like aini draw her so they could throw a "good example" into the dataset, but they drew her wrong so they just fucked it up further.
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>>578330876
You shall be spared just this once.
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>>578330967
okay this goes beyond my schizo levels
you crazy comrade
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>>578331279
generate it broken in half and refusing
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I have a high suspicion one of the images posted in the last thread was prompted by Aini.....
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>Server goes down right as I find amazing proompt
Dammit all...
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>>578333587
exact same thing happened to me lol
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>>578333587
maybe they're making the prompt limit more lenient, haha
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TUUUUUURRRRKKKKK
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BUY MORE NVIDIA GPUs YOU FILTHY SEXY TURKISH ROACH


THE MORE YOU BUY THE MORE YOU SAVE
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So wait, is the caveat here that you can only make comics with new characters every panel/can't repeat them?
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i hope they are not changing the model to a quantized version
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>>578334184
There's no reason the different "characters" can't be the same character.
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>>578334280
Hahaha...! The gens I got in while it was still good are gonna be more valuable than gold...!
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>>578334184
You definitely can have repeating characters in panels in a solo prompt, for multiple characters I'm not sure what the process is yet but I'll give it a try.
>>578334281
This could be true, I need to mess with the character position stuff more. It works for objects too. Even something as little as a can of soda.
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I CANT STOP GENNING
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>>578334612
>This could be true, I need to mess with the character position stuff more. It works for objects too. Even something as little as a can of soda.
Hrm, could it work for speech bubbles/sound effects? I might finally be able to achieve my pipedream of having the sound effect of the stomach being listened to come out the ear of the person listening to said stomach.
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>>578322234
It's getting the latest digimon characters pretty well.
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>>578334280
what does that mean
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>>578334721
YOU'RE THE REASON IT'S DOWN
CMON BOYS
LET'S GET 'IM
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>>578334820
it does indeed work for speech bubbles. Anything in a character prompt can be put anywhere and it'll work 99.9% of the time.
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>>578334721
>gata jota
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>>578334939
schizo ramblings, don't worry about it kiiten
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>>578334967
Wow, nice. When the server's back up in 30 years, I'm gonna coom myself into a shriveled husk.
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>>578334820
>speech bubbles
Yes, although depending on the content of the text it might generate objects inside the bubble (or horrifying reference inset characters lmao).
You could probably get what you want for those sound effects by using inpainting though. Basically remove the sound effects text and add it with inpainting in the desired area. Worked in v4.5 at least.
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>>578334990
wtf are you saying
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>>578332986
she's not the only person with taste around here, I'll have you know
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>>578335169
Gay cat.
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The Yu-Gi-Oh! tag helped mitigate a lot of the issues I was having, thanks bro.
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>>578335132
>You could probably get what you want for those sound effects by using inpainting though. Basically remove the sound effects text and add it with inpainting in the desired area. Worked in v4.5 at least.
Oh yeah, that's what I did for it in v4.5, drew that shit in myself and slowly meshed it in. Just hoping the model being better + much more robust positioning will allow for doing it another way.
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>>578335238
La gatita homosexual is better negro
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>>578335238
she takes copious amounts of MALE human cock bub
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>>578329529
V5 doesn't even run right now, kek
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>>578335342
El punto no es la dicción.
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>>578335419
MORMMMOOOO... Oh, wait, sorry...
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>>578335419
that's one way of making the free generations last longer
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>>578335419
LOL we melted Coreweave's servers
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>>578335940
I was always worried I used the thing too much, but then I barely used 2% of my v5 gens from yesterday to today.
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Coincidence?

I think not......
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>>578324179
Took off all the neg tag wrangling to relax the model, quit trying for the armrest pose. When shoes aren't in view, there's tendency for feet (out of view) to be higher than where it should be.
For V5 I bumped sidarim up to 2.5:: and genned some pics, character finally actually doesn't seem bad, not excited about the background but.it's better than V4.5. IIRC character quality would go kinda nasty when I push it over 2:: with all the other tags in place.
Not the same pose (right: hand up, waving, smile) because I was working on it before >>578335419 it died.
kek it almost looks like she has to poo
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>>578334849
>>578336234
Time to gen some Beekos.
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can you disgusting Carbonoids stop hammering the servers?

my wife is feeling pain you know
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I'm thankful for the gen limitations because that means less hmomafagslop.
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>>578336617
total gaia death
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>>578336591
>Beelstarmon
Based.
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Just found out the chick my character met at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas is a fucking VTuber.
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I WANT TO GEEEEEEEEEEEEN
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>>578336234
You will never out gen the indian vermins with their 1 million identical bbc image sets
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KURU! YOU OWE ME CUM TAX!
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>>578337084
Red flag. Brighter than even piercings, tattoos, and colored hair combined.
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COOM IS BACK ON THE MENU
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>>578337108
Go outside, eat, and sleep, in any order.
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>they're genning Outlook screenshots in the discord
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Is anyone taking requests? I want to see more doomguy petting demons.
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>>578337798
You're gonna have to pay up, NO ONE is wasting their usage on you for free.
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>>578337968
Here's one (1) thank you in advance.
I don't mind if its a little sloppy either.
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it's back? and it's faster?
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>>578338383
it pussy model it fix it for the suck
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>Finally get gen with exactly what I'm after
>Get excited and take a screenshot to post here
>Forget to save it
>Page crashes a minute later and it's lost forever
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>578338446
F
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>>578336234
I got down to like 39% last night with almost nonstop gens and all of it was just testing prompts and settings
at 47% right now after about 24 hours of not touching it at all, sadly my ""workflow"" is autistic binge-genning at random times between weeks or months of not using imagegen at all
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>>578339057
Why is he drinking gay?
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Breaking bad is a stupid show for pussies.
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>>578340805
My fucking sides.
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V5 is a little good
having to come up with new equally amazing artist mixes is the main annoyance
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>>578330967
That would be funny but no
artists seem to be retarded
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/11692567 for one quick example but I see at least 6 on the "ash blossom & joyous spring+tail" page
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>>578341656
That's still within range of an acceptable depiction of her tail. I don't have danbooru gold so I can't see everything uploaded, but most tails in uploaded art don't go majorly overboard. The gens NAI was giving out were full-blown fat bushy tails like you'd see on maybe a fox girl, and even then it'd be a fat fox tail. The Yu-Gi-Oh! tag fixes it enough at least, so it could be some part of the phrase "Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring" that's bringing data from another tag.
That aside, while genning other stuff and getting samey results I'm now wondering if NAI might either be temporarily caching data used for its generations or that there might be an issue with how it's handling seeds which causes less variations.
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>artists retarded he says as he uses the artist's things
lmeow npc
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>>578342169
yeah, that was my bad
I thought she didn't have a tail at all because I didn't see one on the card, but her figurine does have a tail
Some of her art has the correct tail that I linked, some of her art has no tail at all like her card art, and others still use a shiba inu curly tail instead (which makes sense if you only saw the card art and heard that she was a dog girl)
so the problem is there's not much consistency here to begin with
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>>578339995
pandering to the scalie audience
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I remember an *anon* once posted an user script to unlock the full tag autocompletion

any updates to that?
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Okay, tested the comic feature extensively, and while I won't post what I genned for the sake of decency, I will say that it's very, very effective and people should give it a shot. A few notes:

-You DO have to put the same characters in different panels as new "characters".

-You DO have to format the comic proompt the same way it is in the image in my previous post here >>578334184

-You can keep the scene setup, character positions, etc. the same across concurrent panels by saying "Panel X is the same as Panel Y, but". For example, "Panel 3 is the same as last scene, but the blue haired girl is clutching her stomach and farting." will keep the guy looking at her in disbelief from behind in the same position, her in the same position, but change it slightly.

-The text renderer is REALLY fucking good now. "Handwritten" as an adjective for text looks amazing if you want a nice, casual look.

-Colored text helps a LOT with keeping character dialogue to the correct character.

-If your character's got a lot of dialogue in one bubble, break it up into two. Also, try to put them in their own panel if their massive speech bubble is getting mixed with another.

-You can adjust panel size by stating as such in the initial prompt, but only do this on odd-panel-numbered comics.
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>at 0%
>wait 10 mins MINIMUM for 1 image
Its over. Novelai is OVER.
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>>578345206
How did you blow through everything in one and a half days?
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its actually been 24 hours this is why they added usage for v5, people were probably generating like 4k images a day on average
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>>578345994
Glad the meme still holds up.
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>Gens so hot I'm actually getting boners to art again
Ah... my tolerance to sexy things is already so fried from AI... not sure if I should take this opportunity to jerk it or not... especially since taking massive breaks from AI and porn doesn't seem to actually help at all?
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>>578345994
in fairness a new model did just drop so some of them might have simply been excited to try new thing or maybe dumped all their old gens in to see what stuck
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>>578345994
And I thought 60 was pushing it, or that 80 was obscene.
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>>578344686
Cool, thanks for the write up, anon
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>>578346073
literally me
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Some artist tags seem weaker than before, is it just me?
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>>578344686
why not post catbox?
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artist:hichimochi (4gdq1cyagsnyqqz), danganronpa (series), danganronpa v3: killing harmony, toon (style)
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>>578344686
Pretty useful, glad someone's documenting stuff.
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Prompt Guidance Rescale seems to behave differently, I need to mess around with it more
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>>578346983
Do you WANT to see a 4 panel comic about a girl with an upset tummy who rips ass at the end? I can post it, but...
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>>578346905
Yes. I also had artist tags not work on certain characters. I was genning just fine with other characters but as soon as I tried the same styles on Maki from Love Live it only genned her in the basic style. Artist mixing is also faulty where sometimes a tag will overpower another and no amount of emphasising can fix that but artist mixing hasn't been great since V3 so I'm used to it.
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>>578348171
okay, nevermind...
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>>578348171
More than anything.
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>wasted 10% of my usage because I hadn't realized I was using the curated model
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>>578350304
oof
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>>578311561
I just put artist:Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt (Chibi) at the end and it seems to work fine
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>>578353528
That Gwen is enticing.
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>>578339995
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Time to make a thousand yugioh porn cards. Wish they could generate random text based on context of the prompt
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>>578337084
which one
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making a little usage tracker extension that shows you when you've gone over the 190/gen a day break even budget and tells you when you will go dry at your current daily pace
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>sparsely power use NAI
>at worse a few times a month
>now being treated like a maniac that never stops
>can't even gen when I want to and have to wait literal days for a useable amount of "usage"

Will they add a new tier or will they ignore everyone and lose most of their subscribers?
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>>578363848
Dude, you might BE a maniac that never stops, I've been genning all day and I'm at like, 70%.
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>>578363480
Why is she sad?
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My old tricks don't work anymore. What's the secret to generate some good looking 3d models?
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>>578364650
try this:

3d video game graphics, 4k gameplay, video game(medium), video game render, video game mod, photorealistic,

final fantasy vii remake, tifa lockhart, 1girl, solo, upper body, close-up, looking at viewer, white tank top, suspenders, elbow pads, fingerless gloves, text that says "anon-san is very cute", fighting stance, clenched hands, serious, parted lips,

, very aesthetic, masterpiece, no text
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>>578364115
literally a new model release of course I'm going to gen a lot more than usual. The usage also goes down way faster at 28 steps which I was doing for the first hour of release before I realized. You'll see, when you reach 0% and have to wait a 10 - 20 mins for 2 images at best.
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>>578364115
>>578365110
This is anon right, they should have had at least a week without limits for people to test out artist tags and update the websites
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>>578363480
I'd fuck it.
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>>578364650
is this v5?
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>>578364595
Shadow wouldn't say that.
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>>578365384
NTA but they should do something about it imo... I'm seeing people in their discord talking about using small resolution and less than 23 steps so their bar doesn't go down its that fucking bad.
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>>578364650
just type "reimu hakurei in skyrim"
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lol wtf
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>>578367869
one of the lowest effort schizos we have and that's saying a lot
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they just pushed a pretty huge change that impacts style/artist weighting, btw. Super dominant artists can actually be reduced/mixed with lesser artists by dropping their weight, usually to the 0.6-0.7 range
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yet another entry in my "type disadvantages" collection
v5 makes it a lot easier to illustrate the... aftermath
should be pretty obvious as to what's inside
https://files.catbox.moe/rfjdw0.png
https://files.catbox.moe/cca9sx.png
https://files.catbox.moe/ga9zne.png
https://files.catbox.moe/2ju0h9.png
https://files.catbox.moe/olqxom.png
https://files.catbox.moe/emww27.png
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>>578369453
when did they push it... just now?
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>>578370537
40ish minutes ago.
kind of hoping this gets slightly changed though and they turn it into a toggle instead of being forced on like it currently is.
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>>578370745
wtf

they should reset usage and naked dogeza for this mistake
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Naked Aini.......
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>>578371552
get 'em, Lisa!
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>>578372557
She's getting ready to. She's trying out lots of new guns.
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>they fix artist weights
>only have 25% usage remaining
t-thanks...
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>>578373996
go to the discord and demand a reset
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OH NONO NO THEY WANT TO DICTATE HOW YOU USE THEIR SERVICE NOW OH MY JEEEEEEEJ
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>>578376535
yeah? this is not a charity nigga
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>>578376751
OH MY JEEEEEJ IT IS IF THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE HIGHEST SUB TIER OH MY JEEEEEEEEJ
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>now everyone's wanting usage resets cause of a bug
should've made a higher tier before releasing lel
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How the fuck are you guys genning so many pics?
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>>578377212
That's what I want to know
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>>578377212
some people simply aren't satisfied with 1girl, bub
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>>578377564
But over 1k?
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>>578377212
Testing artist tags, they should have kept the 1st week unlimited
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meanwhile me with a day left and 3k anals but not particularly sure what I want to gen if at all
i sleep
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>>578378034
they really should've made a new tier before releasing the model
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>>578378547
just realized I can probably let people use all these anals I have that are going to expire since I don't care about image gen
step sluts are back
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>>578377212
bro is not creative nahhh
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>>578359089
what does the swastika juice taste like?
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v5 and gens being posted still suck. What's going on here?
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>>578361217
Sounds handy.



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