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we should make a new tag game
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https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/514842592/#515055552
SNK shit-eater slaughterhouse.
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>>578386802
No dashing that isn't done by tapping forward either
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>>578388032
>"Uh oh, we're gonna have to kill another fire soldier, Aang!"
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>>578387785
It'll be different this time. Just remove all inputs, make 1 button autocombos that are optimal and remove all projectiles so new players don't get frustrated.
Also 4 characters is not enough. We need a 6v6 tag game!
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show me your best penis
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>>578388701
this is a sfw board anon...
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>>578389035
Fighting games are truly the laughingstock of the games industry.
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>>578389035
You can't even tell 2xko is licensed off something else like the rest here are lol
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>>578388701
just posted on /soc/
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>>578389223
I don't think people even think of us that much
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>>578387785
2XKO and Tokon failed for reasons unrelated to gameplay
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>>578389223
Not true, nobody cares about our genre
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>>578389419
>tagslop failed for reasons other than gameplay
blatantly false
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2xko EoS smokescreened another Tokon placebo patch INCREASING CPU USAGE AND CRASHING LATEST WIN11 VERSION

You know maybe canon bros are doing this to save fgc. They saw how SonicFox, Leffen, Supernoon were shitting on Tokon fully convinced they'll get to stick to 2xko this way. In reality they ruined the only game they got a chance in competing. To make em realize early we got that announcement before Evo France, before 2 DLC character drops which will get ignored now.
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Niggas pretend the pc port has nothing to do with anything
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kinda based how hard Riot rugpulled the FGC lmao
niggas literally quitted their jobs to play this shit
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>>578389520
That's layer 1 filtering everyone. But a top 8 shouldn't jump onto twitter the nanosecond after to call gameplay ass needing to change a lot
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>>578389230
>literally everybody on EARTH tells the devs "2xko is a fucking abominably bad name"
>"shut the fuck up we know better than you"
>literally everybody on EARTH tells the devs "we want brawlers and iconic league characters"
>"shut the fuck up, no you don't, you want braum senna and illaoi"
none of this has anything to do with the game's death but man it's so insane the hubris of these morons
fucking senna dude
TWO characters' worth of work on fucking senna
that could've been sett and lee sin. that could've been garen and riven. that could have been rengar and idk fucking mordekaiser
holy fucking fuck
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>>578389554
like 20 people going all in vs Riot paying over 100 FGC retards millions over 10 years
dunno man that doesn't seem like their win
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>>578389651
Every game has that though.
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>>578389651
arslan ash and other tekken pros bitch about the gameplay 24/7 sometimes even directly to harada murray nakatsu but the game is still trucking, the general gamers doesn't really give a fuck about that sort of stuff unless the game has no casual player base
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The uncomfortable truth that everyone is desperately trying to avoid is that arcsys games are shit. PC port being bad is just masking the fact that the game is cheeks.
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>>578389238
link
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>>578389831
By my projections Strive will overtake Tokon on Steam charts by the end of September, so I don't think that's it.
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>>578389724
it's so bad that i think any one who has worked on the project and is pissed about the way things went should go and release the name of the person or people greenlighting that name
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new shuckle just dropped
is she spitting?
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>>578390020
there's no way a single person could've pushed through on the name alo-
>remembers clockwork singlehandedly got the game remade into tag
riot goons will kill this poor guy won't they...
i'll admit though, 2xko is better than at least one of the ideas they had mentioned in the article about the name, that being fucking #MYMAIN.
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>>578389780
>>578389787
Key difference: sf6 and tekken8 pros are stuck with it for ever and wish for a better game.
Tokon pros openly admit they don't want to stick to it, are multigame gods on the verge to switch to anything else. Avatar ain't a threat to sf6 but could steal Tokonpros clean
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i hope the next guilty gear focuses on singleplayer content, the non-playable storymode is mega dumb and idk why they did it twice in a row
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Pattheflip one of the greatest, galaxy-brained, minds of the FGC just made a Patreon (free) post basically admitting they purposely fucked around and fleeced Riot just to make their dream wank game instead of what Riot actually wanted.

https://www.patreon.com/pattheflip/posts/thank-you-2xko-167265357
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>>578390104
just name it [ADJECTIVE VAGUELY RELATED TO FIGHTING]: The League of Legends Fighting Game
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>>578390114
As long as the game keeps receiving support, they'll stick around.
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>>578390276
Holy cope
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>>578390276
desu i'd have hired Clayton to make my game and hire extra people to tardwrangle him
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>>578390481
Clayton would just make SF2 with Burst
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>>578390351
Which low sales, low charts, negative reviews, bad word of mouth suggest it won't. We just saw 2xko go through a similar downward spiral
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>>578390276
i could genuinely curbstomp this fucking guy
i'm mad again
i waited ten fucking years to play as darius in a non league of legends video game and he never gave a fuck about any of it at all. how many people on the dev team ever did? somebody should do something about these people.
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>>578390553
The sales haven't been low.
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>>578390276
the entitlement and narcissism of these people is insane, my God man. matched only by their stupidity, really.

so he learned all of that - great. now where is he going to use that knowledge? is he going to pay himself to make a REAL fighting game this time?
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>"There is an alternative future where the game was financially stable and utterly devoid of sauce, a future I imagined countless times while we iterated and tested every single character and system in there, and that outcome is far more depressing to me than this one. I probably would have just quit after launch anyway. As a game developer, I think the power of video games is that they can make us better, and I want to make games that do so (in fact, I gave an internal Riot design talk on this once). If a game isn't challenging and frustrating, I'm not interested in playing it, nor am I interested in making it, and if given the choice between shipping something boring, or not getting greenlit to ship at all, I'll take the latter every time"

- Pattheflip (Design Head for 2XKO)

Well, there you have it guys. It's exactly like we said happened. They were too busy wanking off over "sauce" instead of just doing the simple ass order of making a LOL Fighting Game that people would have actually wanted to play.
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>>578390651
3.000 in Japan
500.000 total week 3. By now InvincibleVS sold 1 million. Sfv 1.4m first month

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/fighting/marvel-tokon-debuts-with-less-than-3-000-physical-copies-sold-in-japan-well-under-arc-systems-guilty-gear-and-blazblue-fighters/
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>we didn't care that the game you've anticipated for an entire fucking decade was going to die in less than a year
>nope
>that was just me getting experience points
i'm making a naughty list, dude.
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Was there even any real shilling for 2XKO? Like a showmatch where Fake and other League professionals played the game?
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>>578390785
I feel like you can get sued for this lmao
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>>578389035
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>>578390973
*Faker
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>>578390785
So now that we have shit like this STRAIGHT from the horse's mouth are people here still going to cope and say Riot was the problem?
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No one even cared
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>>578387601
this one
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3077060/Kingdom_HeroesArena/
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>>578390276
Dissertations can be enlessly cited and studied for years to come, as long as it's good, nobody will revisit 2XKO unless they want to learn what not to do, fucking idiot
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>>578390973
A bunch of FGC influencers made it their main game day one, but most of the shilling happened 5+ years before it came out, when people were imagining Riot would give it a competitive scene as large as League's.
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why are the numbers so fucking consistent despite heat and other garbage?
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>>578391151
im shocked its not 100%, invincible is already buried as far as most people are concerned. at best it might be picked for mystery game brackets
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>>578390276
2XKO's gameplay doesn't seem especially "cracked" to me.
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>>578391151
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>"If 2XKO was just another Strive or Tekken or Granblue or Street Fighter with League characters, we would not really contributing anything new or worthwhile to the genre, nor would we be building anything that had a reasonable shot at hitting the top spot."

>"The team was never there to aim for second place, and the creative latitude and appetite for risk that came with those lofty goals was what made the job worthwhile."

What a bunch of pretentious faggots. No wonder this game ended up with no fucking identity when the people making the decisions are like this.
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>>578391335
brand loyalty, also tekken is the only game that plays like tekken so theres no close alternatives to jump straight into
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>>578391335
Like Street Fighter, Tekken appeals to normies rather than just fighting game players. Tekken players are also the least likely to play other fighting games.
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>>578391335
Normies love tekken, they can just mash with their friends and have a good time
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Will baron hire pat to work on blades and breasts?
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>>578391423
What was their new or worthwhile contribution to the genre
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>>578348985
they nerfed the boob size already
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League of Legends VS
RIOT League of Legends Fighting Legends
League of Legends Legends: The Fighting Game
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>>578391423
a 3d game with entirely new systems would blow the genre wide open but they made tag slop with a million buttons
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>>578348985
She had breat surgery? lmao
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>paid 10s of millions by riot just to get BTFO by a bunch of dudes making a kid's cartoon game
lol
LMAO even
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>>578391591
RUNETERRA VERSUS
RUNETERRA RUMBLE
LETHAL TEMPO: A LEAGUE OF LEGENDS FIGHTING GAME
DOUBLE KNOCKOUT: A LEAGUE OF LEGENDS FIGHTING GAME
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>>578391484
>Tekken players are also the least likely to play other fighting games
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Fuck Tekken, Pokken 2 when?
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It's still absolutely hilarious and insane to me that just one guy going "DUDE what if TAG?!?!" was enough to completely reboot and change their "vision" for the game, and then they just threw in whatever the fuck anyone could think of
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>>578391686
Bunch of dudes being Mike Z and some remaining bronies who made them's fightin herds
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>>578391785
Not a fighting game
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>>578391785
why include sakurai when he fucking hates the competitive smash community?
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>>578391758
Riot, hire this man
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>>578391821
if i was riot, cl0ckw0rk and patt and the cannons would already be like this
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>>578391850
ultimate players have no beef with him, it's mostly meleefags
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>>578391579
That wouldn't work because Pat would just be complaining about the boobs all day
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>>578391912
Yes, and give me money and 10 years to make an Oni sequel disguised as Valorant looter shooter spinoff
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>>578391785
How many of these guys are pedophiles
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>>578391994
>How many of these guys are Smash players
All of them
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>>578391798
I'm genuinely surprised they haven't made another one in ten years
Is smash enough for them?
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>"Why not? The worst thing that happens is that we all get fired."
>"to me, making a boring fighting game success would have been far more disappointing than making a failure we were proud of."

Project L was never going to succeed when you had pretentious faggots who say shit like this at the helm of the game.
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LETHAL TEMPO: A LEAGUE OF LEGENDS RHYTHM GAME
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well?
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>>578391821
Especially when you consider they wanted to make a normalfag friendly game. No beginner wants to play tag, same reason Skullgirls stayed niche
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..... Did the cute little woodland critter really need a huge juicy ghetto booty?
Why exactly did the rabbit girl need to be designed this way?
If you can't offer me a proper explanation, I'll be forced to boycott this.
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>>578392120
Idk but that game was neat, maybe their focus tis to make a pokémon spin off for every genre?!
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You know
Nintendo gave Gamefreak, basically an indie studio who made games like Quinty through a hacked famicom in their rooms, six years and a million chances and they ended up making pokemon
2xko, on the other hand...
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sounds like a guy spending 10 years not knowing to do and trying to justify that but maybe i'm biased
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I lost interest when I heard they made it tagslop. I'm honestly sick of how every fucking game is tagslop now. The FGC needs another hard crash like pre-SF4.
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the thing with experimenting is that it needs to be quick so you can quickly iterate upon your results, taking 10 fucking years and having little to show is fucking embarrassing no matter how you try to spin it
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Pokémon is more like Megaten than DQ desu
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>>578390276
Didn't read but I like this art piece
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>>578392519
i miss the watercolor look..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM2JL7iqdCY
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>>578392573
>sequelfag
kwab
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>>578392497
>You trannies claim that pokémon is just a ripoff of Dragon Quest now
Gamefreak admitted that
Also Nintendo tried to patent the mechanic of beating a monster and locking it in a container in a 3d action RPG, aka something smt devil summoner Raidou did in 2006
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>This is not everyone's decision, of course, which is why I made it my job to figure out how to make the cracked fighting game, and not my job to figure out how to get it to pay for itself; you don't want me making product decisions because I have no personal or professional motivation to make profit for a corporation. (I take it as a point of pride that almost everything I've worked on, in both games and journalism, has been freely accessible without an upfront cost, because I grew up without a lot of money to access the hobbies I cared about dearly.)

Sure, I may have sullied an entire game, lost jobs and income for dozens of people, blown a once-in-a-lifetime chance for an entire community, and took away a potential dream game for League of Legends and fighting game players....but WHAT ABOUT ME? What about my dreams and personal views?

WHAT ABOUT ME? ME!!! ME!! MEEEEEEE!!!!
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>>578392579
This looked like shit
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>>578392573
Hanboks are cute
>Rising Thunder character
Oh what could've been
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>>578392807
>took away a potential dream game for League of Legends and fighting game players
BASED desu
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>>578392534
Both are heavily inspired by wizardry, wizardry iv even had you
There was a Taiwanese rpg that had a monster capturing mechanic before Pokémon too
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>>578392740
So then why did you guys want the 2xko developers to be just like literally Hitler the video game company?!?!?
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>>578392807
it's honestly such a fucking narcissistic post that i don't think he realizes he was making a product for regular consumer
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New megaten fighting game when
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>>578392807
this attitude is just a concentrated picture of the entire western game industry now
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P5A when
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You guys do realize that Nintendo kept giving chances to gamefreak because they actually made money, right? They pumped out a bunch of games for all those systems that you guys were talking about. Even pokemon, which did take a long time to make, didn't actually cost that much money. They weren't paying a bunch of guys tens of millions of dollars to jack off in a basement for 10 years like Pat and his tranny friends. They even made other games while they were working on pokémon.

Your California woke leftist retards will never be Japanese and they will never be real developers. This is why every Western IP now is just a cynical take on some Japanese thing. It's like everybody became a Dorkly writer and/or Adi Shankar.

Digimon was considered a Pokemon ripoff back in the day and they at least pumped out more than one thing at a time. What the hell are you people doing in East LA?
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>>578393190
You'll get Persona Arena 2 and you'll like it
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LordKnight? Give me sirknight instead
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gD7SNjNIbCA
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>>578393265
i don't think so, most developers are very mercenary, you get what you pay for
this is specifically the californian tech-bubble mindset
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>>578393328
I'm gonna force myself to play persona 3 to 5 just because that's what most niggas care about and also what the only megaten fighting games care about
But I just wanna play as raidou or demifiend dude
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>>578390276
>I didn't want to squander my time working on something boring and safe
>2XKO was the most boring and safe pile of shit in existence
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Can anyone explain to me how a fighting game, from THE GREATEST MINDS OF THE FGC, would ever be in pre-production stages for three entire fucking years?

This would only ever be acceptable from a AAA dev as a side project or something where most of that pre-production time is spent making and testing some new custom engine technology or some genre-defining new gameplay innovation.

What did they do for three fucking years?
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>>578393456
You'll hate those games, I know this because I'm also a Megatenfag and played them
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>>578392807
Jesus christ this guy is like MovieBlob levels of thinks-he's-smart
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You guys are all going crazy over that article, but think of it this way. All of your favorite developers hate you and would never want to hang out with you. They all think they're better than you. They just don't say it. At least Pat is honest. Your precious Japanese salarymen like Kojima aren't your friends, either. You need to accept that. Time to grow up and face reality. Like a man.
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>>578393456
You'll love those games.
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>>578393304
This shit would sell a fuckton, way more than Tokon, arcsys is retarded
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>>578393456
They're great games. So are SMT IV and Vengeance.
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I nearly died man..
Fought my mate for god knows how long.. he calls last ft5.. he dies every single match to a Cute But Deadly into RA.
Finally clicks for him that I force the crouch mixup to get that RA in. Last match, 4-0, got RA again.. force crouch mixup into his face.. do 3 shoeshone in a row. He thinks I'll do a 4th.. do cute but deadly.. he dies to RA again.
He ALT F4s mid animation and instantly leaves voice..
Best fucking set of my life.
My sides are destroyed.
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Sometimes I feel like complaining about game toph fighting too mindless HAHAHA YEAH YEAH HAHA and gorilla compared to herself in the show. But then I look at 2xko doing complete diarrhea dookie dumps on LoL in order to jerk itself off and realize I have nothing to complain about
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>>578393352
I can see that being the case for mobile games, but it's exactly like this at insomniac, ubisoft, whoever the devs erre for veil guard, horizon, concord, etc.. it's endemic to the whole business at this level basically
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>>578393973
>All of your favorite developers hate you and would never want to hang out with you
I totally accept this if it was Itagaki, Kamiya, Carmack, to see such an attitude coming from a no-name with no proven track record is frankly offensive
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You guys are laughing at pat, but let's be honest. You would all do the same thing. You would all tank a game just to get your fetish in there. It would be a game that no one wants to play but you, but as long as it has girls with huge dicks raping each other, you would call the best game ever and wouldn't care if it flops. Don't lie to me, nigggggggggs
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>>578393316
>This is why every Western IP now is just a cynical take on some Japanese thing

always has been on consoles
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>>578394147
It's just the Ameritroon mindset
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>>578391580
2vs2 duos was a good unique idea
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>>578394163l
This reminds me of how Phil did concept art for a licensed movie game based on some random DreamWorks thing and declared himself the next Miyamoto

I think it was Open season or over the hedge or something like that. Not even Shrek.
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>Girls with dicks
There is no such thing as girls with dicks. Only guys with tits.
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>>578390276
>Burning Riot's money for a decade to make "the cracked fighting game"
>Tag fighter with 10 characters, no motion inputs, no memorable mechanics
>Riot refunds players, somehow still treated as the bad guy
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>>578394349
But Infil and Laugh won an Evo doing that over 10 years ago
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>>578394431
Why did Seth MacFarlane say that, but had a complete 180 on trannies after that one family Guy episode where he got in trouble?
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>>578394349
I personally do think it's interesting but didn't Street Fighter x Tekken do that?
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>>578391591
Legend of Galactic Heroes the Fighters
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>>578394596
You just can't say shit like that on current year Hollywood and get away with it, buddy
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>>578394613
so did tekken tag 2
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>>578394614
I'm gonna be honest. Literally ever FGC influencer is a fucking moron. Max especially so.
No wonder Aris ditched this retarded community.
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>>578394197
that sounds genuinely better than what we got. and that's exactly how most fighters are made anyways
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I'm not a moron...
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>>578394614
LOL
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>>578392278
>hungrybox
Of course he would say that
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>>578394805
I mean Max got to keep his friends for 25 years. That has to account for something, right?
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Just so I'm on the right path here:

They spent 3 years in pre-production fucking around and reading game design books, building tech stack, internal seminars, and hiring the necessary people to work on the game.

Then around mid-2019 they actually started working on the game, which was that 1v1 build footage we saw earlier. They spent another 3 ish years on that.

Then around the early 2020s...2022-,ish, Clockwork/the exMarvel players/the anime players convinced them to scrap the current gameplay framework they had and rework the game entirely into a tag fighter. They still had the benefit of the logistics sides of things sorted out (server infrastructure, etc), but they switched art styles and had to redo/scrap a lot of assets.

Riot then put their foot down and told them to at some point in (early?) 2024 to get whatever they had out of the door. And this is when they "finalized" their plans, started to bring the game out to public builds and demo, and started the ad/marketing surge for the game.

Then they still didn't have everything ready in early 2025, so they had to commit to the early access launch, lack of console launch, early start of eSports tour for the end of the year and all the other shit for later in the year. They would eventually "finish" with the 1.0 console launch.

What a fucking trainwreck.
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If we make a fighting game for people who don't play fighting games we are sure to make MILLIONS
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>>578394805
aris is genuinely smarter than 99% of the retards orbiting this scene. he's an avid bookworm which already puts him well ahead of any e-celeb
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Megaten fighting game roster

Nakajima (Swordie with Hinokagutsuchi)

Chaos Hero (Gunslinger)
Demon Chaos Hero (Sword and fire magic)

Aleph (Sword, can summon Satan)
Hiroko (Whip and charm bullets)

Akira (Brawler)
Akira / Amon (Can use Amon-Ra's spells)

Demi-Fiend (Brawler with Freikugel laser beam and Gaea Rage ala Devil Kazuya)

Raidou (Puppet character, controls Muu Shuwuu, Alp, or Scathach)

Cielo / Dyaus (Uses his assault rifle in human form, can move very quickly in his avatar form)

Jack Brothers (Ice Climbers type character, can use ice/fire attacks that do stuff kind of like Dizzy. Also Jack Ripper can slice.)
Gabriel (Can fly, has annoying status magic)
Cu Chulainn (Spear user)
Pixie (Weak ligntning spells, but can use Makakaja to buff herself until she can use Ziodyne)
Beelzebub (Can send flies at the opponent, he can curse with death spells and if he he curses the opponent 5 times, they instantly ko)
Metatron (Can fly and use Fire of Sinai at different ranges)
Lucifer (Angel Form, can transform to Demon Form)
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>>578395079
Other genres never do shit like this, I don't know why our devs hate their audience so much
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>>578395079
Strive proved this true because the people who don't play fighting games are actually the only people who do play fighting games.
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Don't post that bitch I'm trying not to jerk off today
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>>578394614
Really not beating my allegations that Max and his fans are goldfish.
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>>578395202
>no Flynn
>no Nahobino
Gay and didn't read
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>>578395079
Word? What books does Aris read?
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>>578395243
Just do it, blud
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2XKO would have succeeded if it was on Steam and didn't have anti-cheat
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>>578395243
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Reading doesn't make you intelligent necessarily. Plenty of women read those romance novels were the guys are vampires that eat the women and they are basically retarded
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>>578394741
U gotta stop stealing my YuYu images.
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>>578393316
>They pumped out a bunch of games for all those systems that you guys were talking about.
That was actually during the development of pokemon. They would do other games to get experience and make some extra money so they don't get gangraped by the yakuza like gunpei yokoi did
>didn't actually cost that much money
I'm trying to remember but I think it was pretty expensive.
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>>578392337
Mike Z taught us that you just need to say it's a subversion of expectations and based on horror tropes or something and they will claim it totally doesn't count.
>See, you would think that a little rabbit girl would be very svelte and petite, so giving her an o block donk it's a huge surprise the audience would have never expected. It's also a reference to her tragic past as a victim of animal testing where they injected her with various things. I bet you chuds never saw that coming.
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>>578395585
It does keep the noggin jogging more than jerking off or watching TV at least
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>>578395781
Yeah, that's what I meant when I said they made other games while they were making pokemon. Regarding the price, it was expensive for a gameboy game, but that's way cheaper than anything close to most console games at the time and of course literally any Western game ever. The advertising budget for Mortal Kombat 1 alone would allow you to make like 5 pokémon games I'm pretty sure.
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>>578395423
2XKO would have succeeded if it had an entirely different dev team
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>>578395924
While I understand your point, I'm not entirely sure if I agree. Reading the equivalent of Jersey Shore versus watching the equivalent of Ulysses? I think TV would win in that case. Though I know most people would be watching reality TV slop anyway, so maybe you're onto something.
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Stupid ass nigga STILL thinks mike z was behind the pawg schoolgirls and big titty ninjas and mafia nazis in skullgirls, and not Alex Ahad
Mike Zion was just SULTAN Ahad's little code slave developer trying to shove all the hotboxes in undead 14 year old booty
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hehe
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>>578395217
There is a pervasive myth in the FGC that all fighting games are destined to be played by the same small group of people and they can only get successful by appealing to them as much as possible. Every fighting game success and failure story has demonstrated the exact opposite.
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>>578393884
"Functions" guy
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why didn't they call it league of fighters
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>>578396202
My post was based on something he actually said when he had to get the heat off himself for Alex's art.
https://youtu.be/r8zUGXGfQzc?t=154
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>>578390524
thats what they are playing in the alternate timeline instead of turd strike
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>>578392337
if this guy actually grew up with no money, where the hell is he gonna go now? california has no shortage of idea guys who are all better connected than he is
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>>578394197
I would do the same because I hate working for a corporation so i would yell at them to give me more time and money. But at the same time, this fantasy is about getting to make a game adaptation based on my favorite autistic hyperfixation franchise and putting attention to detail. 2xko devs didn't care about the ip at all.
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>>578390276
new pattheflip kamige incoming in 20 years
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>>578394596
Even back then he said he didn't hate trannies, he just wouldn't fuck one
Man has always been a little fruity though
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>>578394197
i'd micromanage every one so hard and sociopathically climb the corpo ladder so that my career isn't dependent on vidya anymore, i can only be out of a job if riot closes down
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>>578394472
A tragedy in two parts
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>>578392337
I'm 90% sure that Pat would boycott a game made by some 4chan guy anyway as soon as he found out
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>>578395213
RPGs do it all the time
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All gamers are all retarded and you should never make games for them
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>>578395079
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If anyone should be given infinite money to make a cracked fighting game with sauce it should be Clayton.
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2XKO won
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>>578396586
He got paid by Riot for 10 years, so he certainly has money now. Unless he spent it all on dumb stuff, I guess. He even got that huge severance package from them. And his wife is a professional artist that has worked on avatar The Last Airbender and apparently could afford to boycott working on avatar Legends because of Mike Z or whatever. As such, he's probably very well off now.
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>>578390092
There has never been a single time in our history where this image wasn't true.

I think the problem is people have very high expectations and expect to feel the same spark when they play games now that they had when they first played fighting games ever. Now they are spoiled by frame data and the devs are trying too hard to make games that are "hype."

2XKO was shilled by Max and Sajam, and the game was made for them. Sajam wanted a job, but Max was a very early shill for 2XKO and he was also one of the first to come out and say "actually appealing to the FGC is bad." These people are fickle idiots that are easily taken in by people who speak their language but don't know or care what makes fighting games good.

If all you care about is the bottom line, then the only game you "should" be playing is SF6. If you don't care about profits, why aren't you playing 2XKO anyway if it's so great?
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>>578397190
I would too(baron doesn't count okay)
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.....Has an Asian in California ever actually been poor?
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>>578390276
>equivalent of my PhD by wasting my boss's money making tagslop

Arrogant, but riot should have known better than to hire him
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>>578397540
yeah bruh wtf is this question
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What is that Shoes and Slippers game anyway? I saw the sexy Rapunzel trailer and got kinda interested. Didn't even realize it was a fighting game.
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>>578396356
>We got big titted bitches because that's what my boss wants
He was such a good little janissary
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>>578397190
The artist that drew this picture for him posts literal Nazi memes on twitter.

Just throwing that out there.
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>>578397423
If the devs are as stupid as all of you claim getting rid of them is a win, no?
2xko keeps improving
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>>578397540
Filipinos, and not every Chinese pers
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What's the status on the new Tokon patch?
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>>578397668
thats just their culture
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>>578389419
gameplay is absolutely part of the reason 2xko died
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>>578397738
on is rich nigga
Tried to race the auto post timer
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gameplay, name, marketing, timing, development cost
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>>578397515
Why so?
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>>578397540
in every racial demographic there are more poor people than rich people
this is common knowledge
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>>578397796
What's wrong with the gameplay? It has many strong offensive and defensive tools and great movement.
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>>578397760
Fixed
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>>578397582
This thing?
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>>578397760
10% better for some
10% worse for others demanding higher cpu usage
8f one sided rollback still happens enough to keep crossplay turned off
If you're on Windows11 version 25H2 and 24H2 you'll likely run into crashes on certain stages especially during wallbreaks...
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>>578392278
The fact he brings up Multiversus and still tries to make this retarded point.

>150,000 on steam charts? YOWZA

That's pathetic for an F2P game built with the intention to make money and go live service. There's a reason that game shut down too and it's not the mechanics. When people saw the first BP come out and it was expensive AND didn't pay for itself, everyone checked out. The money wasn't coming in and WB tried to trick people into thinking the game didn't launch when it launched.
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>>578398091
I think so? Artstyle looks similar.
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>>578397438
>And his wife is a professional artist that has worked on avatar The Last Airbender
What dod she do
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>>578398067
don't post official damage control they claimed game runs fine during beta, after official launch patch, after previous placebo hotfix and now you get fooled again?
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>>578398210
Her name is Irene Koh. She drew that one korra comic book with the lesbian kiss. Turf war
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>>578395060
>Games shouldn't have intentional design
>But also I get salty and stop playing when I get destroyed by things I don't understand

Max needs to admit he just likes to watch.
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>>578398289
>Turf war
Meh.
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>>578398168
what games are you playing where 150k concurrent isnt a big number?
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Fighting game's became popular for their novelty and once other games popped up they fell off, much like RTS and arena shooters. The notion that you can recreate the success of a game like sf2 or mortal kombat by just making an amazing and unique genre defining entry is insane hubris and no wonder 2xko turned out the way it did. Yet another case of westoid trying to "subvert" expectations because they're above iterating on what's already established and exists. Fuck, timmy underground was right.
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>>578397760
Nothing will change unless Snoy removes their malware, which they won't.
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>>578398507
>>578398168
150k is apex legends and siege numbers, that's enough to sustain a game for years
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>>578397976
modern controls, autocombos, the list could go on
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>>578398560
RTS fell off because developers forgot that people love the fantasy of playing a 4head general commanding mass armies of little guys to fuck the opponents up, not being an esports player that can click 1000 times per second
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>>578398560
2xko seems to have done badly even by fighting game standards though.
>Yet another case of westoid trying to "subvert" expectations because they're above iterating on what's already established and exists
I don't know what you mean by this, 2xko was very run-of-the-mill.
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>>578398402
That's something I find funny. All these guys claim to love emergent gameplay, but even the games they use as examples have a million banned techniques. Mvc2 is a great example of this where certain glitches are not allowed like the dead body infinite because it would ruin the game.

Or how in jojo, you're not allowed to do certain loops more than a few times. The Fist of the North Star game has that one combo that literally destroys the machine, so you're not allowed to do it.
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>>578398782
>2xko was very run-of-the-mill
i think it's lacking in content but i don't think it's run-of-the-mill
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>>578398691
4X ended up appealing more to those people anyways. multiplayer in RTS made the genre kill itself by optimizing itself into a dead end and out of existence, essentially
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>>578398829
i mean emergent gameplay has to facilitate more of the game being played, that's the entire point. if it results in an unplayable state, it's not hypocritical to ban the technique, weak gotcha you trying to spin up
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bros is this real
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>>578399071
no
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Launching with 9 characters after 200 developers worked on it for 10 years was kinda crazy ngl
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>>578399136
the devs are too busy getting their phd
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chadton would have cranked out 20 champions in his sleep WHILE on pain meds
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>>578398579
ubi has been running For Honor for 10 years on less than 20k concurrent too
I need to get back into that game i miss my niggas cent and conq
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clayton would need a security team and a PR team following him around when doing publicity for the game
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Yes! We got it. The chinder chagger nigger dagger
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>>578399071
Reminds me of UFO sightings.. for some reason all these 2000dollar phone SUDDENLY AND FOR NO REASON are covered in grease and are can't focus for the life of them.
Totally real.. is just 5cm of phone grease.. don't worry bro.
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>>578399341
kys denny
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>>578399136
Assuming 40-hour weeks, that's about 426000 man-hours per character after PTO.
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>>578399393
Come kill me yourself.
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>>578399395
game devs do not work 40-hour weeks bro, no matter what kind of game
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member that epic riot gaymes card game that was going to "change the world" and it died like a year before turdko game out
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>>578399449
I would be shocked if this game saw any kind of crunch time
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>>578399502
u now remember "Artifact"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO47AguLSO8
HERE. IT'S HERE!
. GET IN HERE.

FEAR HAS WEIGHED IN ON 2XKO
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don't worry bros the LEAGUE MMO will save us
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>>578399529
you're kinda crazy, dev time increases exponentially every time a milestone approaches, this thing probably have tons with how much it rebooted, they did a shit job but saying that didn't crunch at all is delusional
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>>578399627
i mean riot can lock in every now and then, like valorant
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incredible how dogshit sf6 is but somehow every other company has butter fingers and keeps fumbling
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>>578399808
say whatever you want about me but i think tekken 8 had a real chance before s2 happened
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Sajam said that you guys were pedophiles because you kept asking for yordles with big juicy ghetto booties
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>>578399885
Kekken is button mash slop. It's never gonna have the cultural impact of the Chess of fighting games (Street Fighter).
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>>578399627
League MMO is gonna be shit
Riot cant write good lore to save their lives and keeps retconning everything that happened in the last short story in the next one so its pointless to read the lore because its never going to get followed up on in the next lore entry just retconned and a new plot line begun that will never go anywhere because as soon as the next writer writes a new piece of lore everything in the last lore piece will be retconned and a new plot line will start.
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>>578395202
I think they'd have assists from their more iconic/"canon" demons, like demi fiend having pixie
Raidou would use both swords and a revolver
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quick, blizzard, make a wow soulcalibur clone with dynasty warriors-esque singe player!
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>>578399421
lots of great background noise while i lab
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>>578400110
Yordles do not have big butts or boobs.
They are built like toddlers with very big heads in every official depiction.
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>>578399421
*scratches balls then my chin* hmmmm why do they all upload around the same time??
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>>578400110
Mr. Reasonable thinks this entire website is one individual retard, and a different retard at that, at all times.
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>>578400367
there's an optimal time where your average NA timmy comes home from work or school and opens youtube during dinner
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Who do I have to pay to rescue Ingrid from slime fighter? We Tekken fans are happy to accept the ugly goblin into our ranks.
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>>578400321
Tristana is literally built like an onahole actually
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Riot wanted to get tuko over with because they finally realized after all their other flopped league spinoff games that despite league's popularity: the IP only has pull to people already invested in league. Arcane was a fluke. Them trying to market 2xko as its "own thing" instead of as a league fighter was a desperate attempt that still blew up on them.
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Real humans do not use 4chan in 2026. It's just a bunch of monkey bots acting Russian all day. Talking about how much they want some random fat asian woman to bounce on their junior, whatever that means
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>>578399430
This bitch so slutty
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>>578400110
Of ALL the reasons he chose THAT?
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>>578400759
She's ugly, she has to wear strange clothes.. otherwise not even the ugly bastards want her.
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>>578400146
>throws you in a corner
heh. zugzwang'd.
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>>578400661
>Arcane was a fluke
S2 maybe
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I need to see some very rich and mentally ill Guy start paying all the fgc talking heads to promote some random crappy game and watch them tie themselves in knots trying to get hyped up Clay fighter or dcko
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>>578401029
look up what fluke means, retard
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where the fuck is dicko
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>>578400661
You might be right. Riot Forge was a disaster even if Ruined King was good and I liked LoR, it just didn't make enough money. Makes sense to just cut ties entirely than risk your name on this.

But also, they did this to themselves by absolutely ruining the original lore and taking themselves too seriously.
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fluke?
more like
PUKE!
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>>578400110
I'm more concerned that he is actually reading these posts. What happened to talking to a person?
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... Do you sick PDF files really look at a girl like Ingrid and go oh yeah time to put my penis in her butthole fapfapfap PLAP PLAP PLAP rape time?

You people are sick and need help.
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>>578401228
PUKE RUSH
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i imagine this new tekken poster as a big dicked dommy tranny...
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>>578391193
I'm the nigga who asked in the last thread, looks interesting
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>>578401270
pawgshep seems fine with it
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>>578401270
With AI taking over, it's going to be possible IRL soon. You are the one who is going to be left behind.
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>>578401301
it plays kinda like tekken with sf6 modern controls, hard to describe
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No motion inputs, no buy
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>>578401065
>dcko
Now I feel bad for shitting on Injustice lol
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Quarter circles and down downs only no buy
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>>578401260
ecelebs can't help but doomscroll places they're being talked about even if it's a place they hate
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>>578401614

>we removed aiming from our FPS to appeal to non-shooter players
>we removed exploration from our metroidvania so non-metroidvania fans play it
It's funny how this never happens in other genres. It's only fighting games where it is OK to remove foundational gameplay to appeal to some non-existent audience.
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is there any hope for fighting games that arent street fighter, tekken, mortal kombat or guilty gear?
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We removed grinding and random encounters from our rpg
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>>578401964
those are just visual novels by jrpg standards
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We removed all the NTR from our visual novel
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Not a single industry person knows how to make an appealing fighting game anymore.
It's all up to indies, except the ones with actual vision don't have money. And a lot of indie devs are braindead and just copying what already exists, making the same shitty game but worse.
Look at that kid making the RUSH "Tekken beater" game. He had all the good will and hype in the world, and he squandered it because he doesn't want to add more than a single character with 2 skins and a massive movelist.
Obviously this limits his appeal but he's too zoomer and retarded to see this.
I struggled to make GigaMaidens due to just being one guy who has basically no money and fights wolves for his dinner.
They're not giving money to the right people. It's me. I'm the right person.
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>>578402110
Horrifying...
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the games are amazing when you actually play with friends instead of whining about them with losers
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>>578401904
Just be a good game. Nobody cares about Twitch numbers.
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We removed the high speed fast forward options from VNs and JRPGs. Uh oh.
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We removed the clothes from the Loli
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Invincible VS is fun
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>>578402159
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>>578401904
If they make a new BlazBlue entry when Strive dies it'll probably be super popular.
I suppose in a sense BlazBlue and Guilty Gear are spiritually the same series
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>>578401894
motion inputs are not foundational, as has been made abundantly clear since smash came out
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>>578402360
yummy tummy
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>>578402285
>Forgot to save before the bad end choice
AAAHHHH
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>>578402285
WHY WOULD YOU REMOVE THE MOST IMPORTANT QOL OF ALL TIME
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>smash
>fighting game
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>>578390276
*SNAP* *SNAP* *SNAP*
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If 2XKO added sexxxo female Yordle characters in swimsuits it wouldnt have died.
But Riot doesnt want to give the players what they want so their fighting game flopped in pess than a year.
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If they let Sajam himself design a fighting game, what would it look like?
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>>578399136
>The Rock in a wig has the largest breasts
>Half of the women have the sides of their head shaved
>No Lux, MF, Katarina, Lee Sin, Zed, Gangplank, Cho Gath, etc.
Lol
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>>578402738
active tagslop (dead in 2 weeks)
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2xko at least got to be at Evo

Mvci died before even that LOL


Capcoons, your response?
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>>578402787
no you don't understand, they really challenged our expectations by loading the game with westoid girlbosses and hoping a fox girl and temu harley quinn would sell the skins for them
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>>578402978
Clockwork canned development for the game people wanted to play to make MvCI: League edition featuring aunties and The Rock
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>>578402367
Might be a decent poverty discord game in the future
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>>578402391
>I suppose in a sense BlazBlue and Guilty Gear are spiritually the same series
I thought this for years
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>>578402552
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TFH outlasted 2xko by several years
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Why isn't any one watching best game Avatar?It has 3 views on twitch
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Genuinely, fucking up Akali so spectacularly was the deathblow to 2XKO.
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how cum active tag is like a death threat to every fg
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>>578402391
>I suppose in a sense BlazBlue and Guilty Gear are spiritually the same series
I feel similar with Tekken and SoulCalibur (even though they are pretty different).
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>>578402595
Pumping
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>>578403392
nigga none of these troon 2xko characters have any aura
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>>578403392
how did they fuck her up exactly?
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>>578403283
Has he been refuted?
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>>578402738
It would have the worst looking deadlock type characters you've ever seen since that's all Americans are allowed to make.

The writing would be just as snarky and obnoxious as him with the characters never being able to shut up ever.

The entire game would be made based around what looks good on a stream rather than what is fun to play. Imagine a game where there's nothing but big brutal rape combos all day long because it makes the audience go crazy. Also a bunch of spectator mechanics like drive rush and ki combo breakers.
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>>578402391
cuaks
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>>578403923
Not a lolfag but I think he's talking about how she's a fan favorite character who usually looks like this



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