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>What is /feg/?
/feg/ is the general dedicated to the discussion of games from the Fire Emblem franchise.

>Fire Emblem Series Summary
https://rentry.org/y8rkm
>Fire Emblem Series Emulation Guide
https://rentry.org/7368i/
>Fire Emblem Heroes Event Calendars
https://x.com/FE_Heroes_EN/status/2087011136357159392
>Fire Emblem Heroes Links & Guides
https://pastebin.com/TguPqnsT

>Fortune's Weave Nintendo Direct
https://www.youtube.com/live/_RaZiSBaJfU
>Latest FEH Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-VN4XP5SkU
>Latest FES Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U919QETw2o0

>/feg/ National Anthem
https://youtu.be/_2i6ARd5SD4

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More Shamir alts please?
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Gay sex with Leda
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I require more Seidr alts.
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APOLOGIZE
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Ninae is the Lysithea ancestor!?
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>>578424820
it's not even out yet
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>Gimped supports: The game
FW will FLOP
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>>578424478
The german reviewer was playing on Leda's route.
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>>578420523
>Byleth is the child of a homunculus
>Lysithea is the descendent of a homunculus
HOLY CANON, BATMAN!
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>>578424793
I answered your stupid questions just fine. You're just too dumb to understand the answer.
If someone asks "How do fish breathe?" and I answer that they breathe in the oxygen in the water, it isn't an incorrect answer because you start going "B-but water is water, not air!"
If that same retard asks "Why does treehouse arbitrarily change names?" and I answer with their exact MO for changing names (they get paid more to do it, and do it to historical or complex names), it doesn't stop being the right answer just because your dad is also your grandpa.
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Where is she
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Sex with Dietrich
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Why are we not talking about the amount of browns in this game? This is probably the ugliest cast in the series.
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Would you ask managing director Ursula for a pay raise?
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>>578424838
that's a weird ass stat spread
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>im stupid but *retort to argument or clearly isn’t stupid*
I hate when people do this. sociopath behavior
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>>578425864
Looks like a pegasus knight.
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>>578425826
we already have but there's like 60 characters in the game so you can just pick all the cute white girls and make a full team
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Say something nice about Cai's long lost half brother.
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>>578424820
for what?
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>>578425915
I'm just mocking him because he says the most retarded things with smart language.

>>578425230
You still haven't answered my question about Bonaparte.
You're not very smart huh.
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>>578425230
NTA but you are profoundly retarded
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>>578426134
>still more characters
What the fuck
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>>578426192
>You still haven't answered my question about Bonaparte.
I did. They change historical names, as they did with Marx to Xander.
You can see this last thread, retard.
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Let's all get along, at least until we're a hundred posts deep.
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Mist
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So we have
Chinese Edelgard
Japanese Dimitri
Where's our Claude reference
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>>578424768
Leda is straight
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>>578426338
I love her so much. She's just so cute.
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>>578425826
But we support black lives here
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>>578426338
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>>578426468
Doubtful.
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>>578425826
you people literally won't shut up about it, so this is a false premise. your real question is "why doesn't everybody care about this as much as i do?"
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>>578426440
Talimun looks like the most obvious Claude replacement so far.
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>>578425826
>an entire team of bitchy white women
No thanks
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>>578426134
he's cute. i do NOT fuck with his hair style though, it's so obvious intsys has no clue what black hair actually looks like or how people style it irl
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>>578419329
Tialla doesn't give a fuck about Cai and can be recruited by every lord.
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>fabio 200cm tall
now I just need to know dietrich's height, for research purposes
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>>578427129
Recruitment during the heroic games is just like "sure, I'll fight for you when my own team doesn't have a match", right? Recruitable units are just being good sports, which is important if you're eventually going to save the world using the Power of Friendship.
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>x is recruitable
>x isn’t recruitable
Which is it?
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>>578425826
You retards say that in every thread for months.
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>>578427197
Weird how her braid is massively thick in the art, but is so small on the model that it can hide behind her.

>>578427467
It depends on the route.
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>>578427045
Bertrand is the only male with cool black hair, Talimun would be cool too but he's not actually black
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>>578426440
They’re not even voiced by the original VA. Expect more…
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>>578427408
Probably 185 or so. I'm surprised that we haven't seen any screenshot of the character pages like 3H had, but maybe Nintendo blacklisted them.
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>>578426134
Temu Atlas
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>>578427467
I'm guessing it's route dependent. one reviewer said fabio was not recruitable but this recent reviewer shows that leda CAN recruit him. no idea which lord the first guy picked though.
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>>578426262
We still haven't seen Abigail
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>>578427638
>H-HE’S NOT BLACK
Holy shit when will you nigger faggots be appeased already? Is 70% brown people not enough? Why don’t you play dustbourne?
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>>578426262
there's way too many imo it's overwhelming
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>>578427585
Here's a better look at her braid.
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>>578427197
She tells the bird she has a nasty scar under her clothes, I wonder where
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>>578427457
Sounds like Caifag cope
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>>578427774
I'm glad we're back to sexy dancers, after 3H's weird frumpy thing, and Engage's dancer that was so gay that not even fags wanted him.
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>>578427197
Dank
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>>578426440
Korean Claude either as a late game unit or in the next Fodlanverse game.
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>>578427847
what are you even crying for? it's a fictional setting and fictional story
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Characters don't stop coming
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>>578426338
Hopefully Deitrich's sister is at least half as good as her.
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>>578427968
Seems like there are quite a few ladies with scars this time around. I want to know how Fianna got the one on her head.
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>>578428065
since when was castor playable?
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>>578427847
I'm not black but Talimun is not voiced by a black VA in the dub while Cai is and Americans care a lot about that for some reason
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>>578426303
That contradicts what you said about Treehouse working with devs >>578421494
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>>578428249
NTA I'm pretty sure we saw him as a controllable guest, but I don't remember where.
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>>578428065
That's 67~ playable units so far
If I had to guess we may break 80 by the late game
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>>578428249
In a dungeon at the beginning of the game.
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I hope with the increased power of the Switch 2 it doesn't make IS think "more characters than the last!" because that'd be too overwhelming, they should try something like FE4 big maps again
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>>578428249
We saw him fighting alongside Cai in the niggas in a row mode so he's likely a field able unit
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>>578428065
Fates still has the largest number of characters
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>>578428258
The actor does not determine the race of the character. This has never been true of any media ever.
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>>578428893
this lol. dedue was voiced by a white guy
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>>578428817
Fates is not the record holder even right now.
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>>578428065
Why didn't Dietrich kill him
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>>578428893
for some reason like a decade ago people got really pissy (like ProZD) about white people voicing characters of color even though this was a rare occurrence
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>>578428817
Fates is 69 in the Revelation route not counting capturable bosses.
Radiant Dawn in 73.
New Mystery is 77.
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>>578428065
>Jester and Dante are with Bertrand
Those team meetings must be chaos.
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>what if Dimitri and Dedue but reversed
kino
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>>578428249
Castor, Solel, and Maria have shown up as guests only so far.
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>>578429489
>leda can't recruit gaitz
>but has support with jester and dante
Kind of funny
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>>578429274
So, despite black people making like half the population of america the world of dubbing there was a closed off community of white people while wanabe starving black VA were banging on the doors desperately trying to get in?
I don't see why anyone would be angry about this situation
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Holsy hit, Peter is a backstabber, piece of shit
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>>578429774
?
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>>578429774
I think 10 renown is the highest we've seen, and 2 renown is the lowest, for Catania
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>>578429774
>Fuck your dad Cai, he's probably guilty anyway.
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with the number of people in this game if they all get more than like 5-7 supports will there be lots of shitty filler support conversations?
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>>578429774
He requires basically capped Renown and he'll likely be stuck with shitty growths auto-levelling his stats, so I can't imagine it's worth stealing him. Maybe he'll get a hilarious boss convo with Cai.
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>>578429774
>daddy SCREAMED real good before he DIED
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>>578429910
Supposedly lords get 15 supports, "important" characters get 10, and everyone else gets around 5.
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>>578428065
I hope FW lets you field lots of units, I just went through and counted thirty characters I'd want on my roster. Gonna have to cut that number down, unfortunately.
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>>578429910
A previewer said the lords got 15, the "retainers" got around 10 and everyone else got around 5
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>>578430082
that's better but honestly I think even for the lords 15 is too many
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>>578429257
Dietrich thought his eyes were beautiful
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>>578429774
Ike's friends would never
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I really hope we get more avatar options.
even a recruit system like fates or xeno X would be sweet
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Orchel is cute.
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We can surpass New Mystery if they make all the Gods and Hong Hua's squad playable after the timeskip.
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>>578429257
Dietrich just wanted his spot in the tournament (and his cool cape).
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>>578430149
We know Leda's supports
>1 Eshmel
>2-5 retainers
>6-8 other lords
>9 Talimun
>10 Answan
>11 Dante
>13 Jester
>14 Guzran
>15 ???
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>>578428345
No it doesn't. At all.
Treehouse approved of one name and then also used another, as my post said.
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>>578430906
>Treehouse approved of one name and then also used another
So they didn't approve it then
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>>578429492
I hope there'll be fanart of Bertrand fucking him in a chokehold.
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>>578429907
We know he is guilty. There is no probably.
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>>578430906
Worst part is that probably exactly what happened. Just someone saying it is fine one day and then changing it the next because I don't think sane people work in the US games industry anymore.
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Which sublord has the best team and why is Orchel?
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>>578430223
She looks pudgy in the thumbnail.
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>>578431271
Bertrand's motly crew and Talimun's hoes seem fun
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From these high renowns it seems unrealistic to recruit them. They are probably there for ironman that lose a character in late game.
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>>578431425
Or new game plus.
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>>578424838
>ninae is a vulcan, presumably for credna
>has dialogue wondering where credna
>credna is also the only god we haven't seen in person yet
Wonder what's up with him
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>confirmed leda can't recruit peppe
>peppe has his own unique brigid faction
I'm assuming Peppe is one iof the qualifying match opponents like Alexandra and Benitz, so he'll become recruitable after beating him
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>>578431425
Lv. 10 Renown doesn't seem that unrealistic. I think Leda has the second highest gain/opportunities next to Cai since her tavern dancing gives her a big boost to it. But yeah, I think the retainers are definitely lategame recruits, and likely just so you can pick them up in a one-route Eshmel run.
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Since Leda can support Talimun I assume you get him later but why can she get Diego but not Ursula? I wonder if Dietrich can get Ursula early or if they a story reason for it.
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>>578431984
>gaitz and ursula aren't recruitable
>but diego and sha lan are
Pretty odd
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So I'm nearing the end of my Golden Deer run, and I'm a bit confused. I thought Cethleann and Cichol were also "children of the goddess" or Nabateans, but Rhea straight up says she's the last one. Are Cethleann and Cichol one removed? Grandchildren of the goddess or something?
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>>578432109
Maybe each route get to recruit 2 sub-captains early and the rest later.
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>>578432263
Either its that Rhea is the last of the Nabateans who were at the red canyon/Zanado, or Rhea is the last who was directly created by Sothis, and everyone else are generations removed. Rhea does seem to refer to Sothis differently than the other Nabateans we meet
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Sterling Bird Time
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LEILIDAHNA!
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>>578432263
Sounds like a mistranslation, I don’t remember her saying she was the last
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>>578432484
The Japanese text makes it seem closer that Rhea isn't the last one alive, but the last one born of Sothis. So Cichol and the other saints are older than her.
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….Why are our English VAs like this?
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>>578432552
Céline is for me.
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Dietrich > Theodora > Leda > Cai in terms of popularity.
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>>578432973
I dunno, I'm okay with it. Glad they're all excited to be a part of it.
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>>578432973
I have seen a lot of the male cast VAs joking about yaoi of their characters and the troons have been eating it up. Hope they aren't setting up expectations the game won't follow through on. I don't really care for how unprofessional some VAs feel nowadays.
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>>578433047
Good taste.
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>>578433047
Perflat
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>>578428065
Surely the Order of Mithras is a team of good guys dedicated to peace and justice
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>>578432973
you just know at least half those EN VA will eventually end up being a pain
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>>578433279
It feels odd because you’d never see Japanese VAs post low effort memes of their characters
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>Bertrand isn't on Leda recruitment list at all
Look like the Bvll is getting turned into steaks.
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Is there any proof that Nathan and Creek are actually playable?
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>>578433825
Them being archetypes of playable units aside not really
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>>578425224
Shez is also a homunculus
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>>578433825
They are most likely playable after the preview embargo, possibly after Part I
>why?
because they're a Cain & Abel
because they're tournament participants, and it makes no sense for them not to be playable at some point

Hard proof though? No, not right now.
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>>578433279
I love imagining you clutching pearls at the sight of VAs flirting for the sake of their fujo followers, please keep complaining
>how... unprofessional! *pearls clicking*
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>>578433921
>>578434086
I hope they are playable just because Nathan feels like perfect marriage material, Creek can die in a ditch for all I care
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>>578428065
I hope we can find Hannibal and recruit him.
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>>578432973
If the fans can shitpost why not them?
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>>578433550
They don't need to, most japanese VAs have voiced a boy love visual novel or some drama CD before. Fujos only need look those up.
If you want to listen to Trafalgar Law or Levi Ackerman being railed you can. If you want to listen to Kakashi blowing dick or being raped against a wall you only need download the right game
Twitter larping is tame next to that
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>>578434431
i'm just mad they have a job they love and i don't
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>>578434248
I feel the oppposite kek. I dislike himbos, they feel like they could roll over in bed and kill you in your sleep.
Kiriku though I could buy a farm, open a tea shop, or a hair salon with him and I'm sure he'd be a great help every step of the way.
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>>578434835
But how will you feel nice and safe without a himbo holding you tightly in bed?
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>>578428065
Hong Hua, Iliana, Baozi, and Raksha are also members of the Order of the Mithras
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>>578433279
I like Xander Mobus he just posts on instagram about events he's going to
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>>578428065
Brigid girl doesn't show up with Peppe on >>578431941 so she may not be on his team.
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>>578433085
Theodora doesn't seem that popular to me.
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>>578435505
she failed to be black Edelgard
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>>578434835
>no regard for his personality, just imagining what work he could do for you
foid alert
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>>578435076
I feel nice and safe in bed alone honestly, someone holding me means bad sleep and a cranky neck the next day
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My bro.
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>>578435638
It's because I've clocked his detail oriented personality that I can tell a good and meticulous worker when I see one.
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>>578435625
she's trying to reinstate her religious institution so she was never Bledelgard
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Now that the dust has settled you all think Edelgard was a good character and she and Rhea along with the world and their interaction with it made 3H worth playing right
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The Dietrich Destroyer
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>>578436330
she's a homunculus...
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>>578436291
Not really no, I think Dimitri could have been written fine, maybe even better if they didn't exist.
Just replace Edelgard and Rhea with a single character called Patricia and there you have it.
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>>578433279
>>578435308
I also prefer when VAs stay out of the fanbase. I appreciate their work, but I don't really want to know their opinions on characters they didn't write, and I don't like dealing with the abundance of retards who treat VA opinions as gospel.
>>578434570
It's not that they don't "need to", but that they know better than to get involved. It's bad for the fan environment as a whole when any member is put on a pedestal and allowed or encouraged to talk over others, even if they had a hand in the making of the game.
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>>578435841
Stupid croissant beard.
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*snnnniiiiifffff*
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>>578436291
>Edelgard was a good character
Make Adrestia Great Again!
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>>578436291
No.
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>>578436635
Perfectly made for me.
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>>578436636
Why would you prioritize Dimitri’s writing over the writing of the people who actually have a stake in the status quo of the world?
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>>578434184
>Hubertfag
Opinion discarded
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>>578436671
>p-please think about the fan environment!
You can't be serious.
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World map exploring, dungeon crawling, monsters, split protagonist perspectives, fixed spell lists per unit instead of tomes or staves; why does FW have so much in common with Valentia specifically?
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>>578437032
Because I care for the well written characters who have a story first and foremost, not whatever Kusakihara filled his wiki with.
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>>578436291
she has plenty of appeal among first worlders and westoids
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>>578431080
They did, otherwise the japanese version would be using the same name as english.
The gracious Treehouse employee permitted JP to use a different name, but the EN one will be used internationally.
This way, the employee gets paid every time they have to change a name in the script, too!
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>>578437286
That’s really disrespectful to Edelgard and Rhea. Please apologize to them or I’ll be forced to post mean things about Dimitri all day.
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>>578436291
>retard who only exists to be male fantasy fanservice female character obsessed with the self-insert
Only stupid people think Edelgard is a good character.
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>anatolio, orchel, talimun and bertrand not recruitable
>2 males 2 females
Say hello to your DLC
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>cai buying a gift for tialla
Cute!
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>>578437530
What a stupid belief you people have. "Getting paid per change". The entire translation process is a change. They would be paid the same regardless. That's a nonsensical belief.
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>>578437808
And yet she still leaves him lmao
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>>578437620
Do it, it won't make Edelgard or her conflict with Rhea suddenly good and I'll have a pretext to spam the thread with Dimitri art.
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>>578437897
[headcanon]
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>>578437808
>betrays him anyway
HOLY NTR
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>>578437727
Then I’m retarded
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>>578437857
>What a stupid belief you people have. "Getting paid per change".
Treehouse and NoJ employees have said in the past that this is exactly how they work. Along with the paid vacations to Japan.
So you're just fighting against the status quo.
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>>578437154
Maybe you're too young to remember when fan spaces didn't always suck shit.
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>>578438058
>Treehouse and NoJ employees have said in the past that this is exactly how they work.
Show me.
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>>578438058
>Treehouse and NoJ employees have said in the past that this is exactly how they work
source or you forever take it up the butt
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Larcei fucks Seliph every night
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>>578436983
>>578436330
Reddit's girl.
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>>578438153
>>578438157
HOLY
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>>578437808
It's cute to see the little village boy getting along so well with all the sexy murderous women he meets in the city.
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>>578438103
>Goldmommy
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Black panties for Leda
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>>578436291
The fucked up thing about 3H is that it has a pretty captivating world building lore at its surface but the more you dig into things the more retarded it becomes. And the big problem with its writing is that it doesn't make proper use of its world building because the driving force of the plot(Edelgard) is so unbelievably retarded it just becomes as generic as any other FE game.
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>>578438157
>source or you forever take it up the butt
Don't offer that, now he'll never the post the source
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>>578438382
That's her massive tangled bush that is so dense it absorbs all light
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>>578438092
I read fanfic, I had a livejournal account, and I posted in Harry Potter and Naruto forums back when modems made noise.
If you think fan environments were ruined by VAs flirting together I don't know what to tell you.
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Does anyone have the screenshot of Leda and Olympia in the bath? Are they wearing matching bath clothes like the ugly 3H ones, or did they have unique outfits?
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If Talimun is the best merchant of Dagda what about Anna?
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>>578438153
>>578438157
So not only does that info exist and is years old, but I accidentally found a funny search result.
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/game-platforms/interview-nintendo-i-advance-wars-i-the-art-of-localization
Here's one of Treehouse's employees admitting that they just arbitrarily decide what names to use for FE when they're working back in their NoA office.
Shit's just their whims, and they get paid more for it every time they make a change.
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>>578437991
He could’ve been a $5 DLC or a LN and it would’ve changed nothing about the game. Claude is sexier and cooler than him, accomplished more and his route felt more important to the overall narrative. His haircut makes him look like a chud. His development is poor, hamfisted and rushed. He is a knock off less nuanced PoR Ike. He exists to be fanservice for women with grooming fantasies and no love life. He dies like a retarded pig and nobody cares in like 3/4 of the routes and it has very little impact. He needs therapy for anger management and mommy issues because the female figures in his life couldn’t stomach him and his chud haircut and couldn’t stop abandoning him. He is friends with Ingrid.
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>>578438961
Anna is from Fodlan
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>>578438749
I don't have the image, but if I recall, it looked like they had the same outfit, but color coded.
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>>578438749
Leda's shows her stomach
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>>578439212
So there's a standard design with mild variations. Makes sense, considering the number of characters.
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>>578439212
This series has been 3D for longer than it’s been 2D at this point and they still can’t figure out hair. Thats crazy
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>>578439085
Source?
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>>578438961
Thanks for reminding me not to buy anything from Anna now that we have a sexier, game exclusive named alternative
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>>578439417
High-quality hair physics for complex hair designs are just more trouble than they're worth. The stiff hair looks bad, but jittery hair is worse imo.
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>>578439542
I think I'm gonna like this guy, he seems cool and funny and I like his design, if he was the main lord over Cai I wouldn't mind
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FW lacks lolis.
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>>578439046
Do you just...say random shit endlessly, like a stochastic parrot? You said Treehouse themselves have confirmed they're paid per script/name change. Find a source for that, because they're saying nothing of the sort here and I'm starting to doubt you're a human and not a bot.
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>>578439780
Yeah I agree but at the same time he's a bit too Claude like for me to trust he'd be a good lord. He's much better off as a mysterious sneaky merchant with an ulterior motive. That is a much harder archetype to fuck up even if you have no story for it
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>>578439940
Orchel is a robololi
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>>578439960
"Per-word/character" is a normal rate for translators and localizers, retard. You're arguing against industry norms now.
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>>578439659
If they couldn’t animate it they could’ve just had her wrap her hair in a towel or something or did some kind of trick to make the hair make more sense. It’s way too distracting and immersion breaking to see something like that in such a popular series like FE in 2026
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>>578439940
Can't have everything I guess.
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>>578439046
Neither the image nor the interview you posted shows what you claimed about getting paid per change. Or even that they change things on a whim. I went through the whole interview. Do you like just making things up or something?
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>all the characters that previewers said weren't recruitable have now been proven to be recruitable except the three old black dudes
Reminder to never trust gayming journos to play a game right
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>>578440152
You are literally making shit up and can't find a single quote backing up what you claim, faggot. That's why everyone is calling you the stupid faggot that you are. You expect anyone to believe your bullshit on good faith.
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It's never not funny when EOPs who can barely speak their own language chime in on others.
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>>578440332
Wish you kiss your mother on the mouth with that mouth?
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>>578440226
>Neither the image nor the interview you posted shows what you claimed about getting paid per change.
I never said it did, retard. What I said is an industry standard, I just also shared a funny thing that I found.
Are you an ESL? Is that why you can't follow a conversation?
Tell you what. Go prove that Treehouse does not follow normal practices for paying translators. Come back when you're done.
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>>578440302
Where are all these character screenshots coming from anyway? I didn't see them in the video preview. Is there an associated article somewhere?
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>>578440152
>"Per-word/character"
You actual fucking donkey. You do not understand a word of what you are typing.
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>>578440183
The bathing bodies just use the same hair physics as the clothed bodies. It moves, but not so much that it would dramatically clip through the character's clothes/body. Your "immersion" during a ten second bath scene isn't worth the time it would take to model a new hairstyle, and I bet most people would rather see hair than towelheads.
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>>578440467
God you are such a rancid fucking retard. Not even the guy who has been arguing with you. I've just been watching you stick your foot deeper and deeper into your mouth and it's infuriating. Just admit you were wrong, moron. You're anonymous, you won't lose face.
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>>578440467
Shit for brains. You think they're getting paid to change a character's name? You think Nintendo is stupid? They would be paid the same even if they changed no names.
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I think I will choose the white route.
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If FW outsells or even sells the same as 3H and puts the switch 2 on the map for many gamers before Pokemon gets the chance to I want Final Fantasy level production value and graphics for every coming FE game even spinoffs
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>>578440837
FW is going to bomb dude. The Switch 2 has yet to produce a game that sells on par with the Switch 1 games from the same series.
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>>578440656
Even TMS #FE had better animation and it came out a decade ago two whole console generations back on a flop console.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFSNYoSq8P0
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>>578440673
Haven't lied once. I've been right on everything.
Hell, I had forgotten that the thing about the paid vacations came from Reggie himself.
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>>578440837
>If FW outsells or even sells the same as 3H
You say this shit every thread but it's never gonna happen. A switch 2 game isn't going to outsell or even come close to 3H.
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>>578441062
But… it has hit tweets…
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>>578439940
true. treehouse doing their thing i guess
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>>578441197
Doesn't TMS have have like four characters?
I can name PS2 games with better hair physics than FW, but none of them had so many characters with so many different styles, and I really don't think FW looks bad.
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>>578441307
You are so stupid man. What is wrong with you?
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>>578441307
Paid vacations and traveling for work are not the same thing.
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>>578441653
You said I lied, but I just cited the source of the quote.
You're unpleasable.
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>>578439940
now that i think about it there was probably an age limit to compete and Solel let Cai be an exception due to who his mom is.
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>>578441697
You have lied about saying the claim that they get paid per name change.
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>>578438961
Anna works for the government as the state contractor
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>>578441485
I don’t think it looks bad either but it’s clear they’re cutting corners with a lot of the animation and modeling despite having 7 years to work on this game. I’ll probably still love it I’ve loved this series even at its lowest (tellius and GBA) but it’s just disheartening to see, like they just don’t care all that much.
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>>578439212
hair is not easy to animate
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>>578442097
If you think the series was at its lowest with Tellius and GBA, you have shit taste.
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>>578441307
>i've been right on everything
Not really you're just extremely persistent with the role of the know it all despite glaring contradictions and straight up inventions everybody can see and point out.
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>>578442430
It’s not a taste or opinion issue it’s objective
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>>578442029
Nope, they do. We've known this since like 2015. A NoJ employee did an interview and talked about how annoying it was for Treehouse to butt in and change stuff, which was stuff that NoJ would have to actually make the changes on (such as character models and the like), while Treehouse employees would get paid for pointing out the things that needed extra changing.
I believe this was over TMS.
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>>578442097
Personally I think they're just very incompetent 3D modelers and animators. Like the only "good" looking 3D games they made are SoV which is a 240p 3DS game and some parts of Engage.
They've been making 3D games for 21 years and have yet to put out something impressive.
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>>578442530
can you just fuck off already
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>>578442609
>lose argument
>"g-go away"
Nah, I'll stay.
And don't you worry, champ. In an hour, a day, or a week, I'll still be right and you'll still be mad.
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>>578442701
I'm not the anon you were answering to I'm just tired of you making up shit at every step and then mentioning an interview about an unrelated topic as the source
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Is this the same fag from /v/ who is always going on and on about Nintendo flying localizers out to interfere with the script? Did not know he was this much of an unbelievable idiot.
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>>578442867
>as the source
No, I don't believe I did that. You might have misread something, but that's your problem. Tell your parents to start a new save on a better kid.
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Which FW character should have been the oppposite gender according to (you)?
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>>578442984
which ship are they looking at
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>>578442530
Once again, not what you claimed in the image Or even that the changes are requested on a whim. No one is denying that the localisation requests changes on the base product and makes further changes on the localised product. What you have misunderstood because you're such agenda-poisoned freak is that these changes are not made on a whim or because they get paid more if they make 'more' changes. The per-word/character bit you refer to means the size of the original script. They would be paid the same regardless of whether Cai was translated as Cai or localised into Anthony.
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>>578442954
I don't care what you believe, and don't tell your parents to try again because we have more than enough schizo morons in the thread already.
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>the gods in Dagda were also making artificial humans and placing hearts into them to revive people
>not treated like a bad thing
once again, the game confirms Rhea and dwagons are right
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>>578443064
FemDimitri should not be this cute.
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>>578441307
I can tell you've never worked in an environment that involved a project manager.
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>>578443462
Solel is literally trying to revive Balor. The lizards not named Sothis are not and will never act in the benefit of humanity.
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>>578443374
>these changes are not made on a whim or because they get paid more if they make 'more' changes.
Except I already cited an interview with a Treehouse employee where they said they do just that, even specifically with Fire Emblem.
Sorry, you already lost.
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>>578443656
Solel is trying to wake up Dagda
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>>578443673
>Except I already cited an interview with a Treehouse employee where they said they do just that, even specifically with Fire Emblem.
You literally did not. Sorry, you're just stupid.
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>>578443472
Dimitri is cute no matter the gender
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>>578443784
>You literally did not.
This is your final (you). >>578439046
I pray your parents get a discount on your tombstone.
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Some people are saying the Germans broke embargo. Do we think that's true? Or did he just show a lot more than anyone else.
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IS it true PV show Leda's black Vagina?
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>>578443875
I pray you can find a brain. That interview does not contain any proof of your claims. You are just too stupid to even realize that.
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>>578436330
>The Dietrich De-ACK
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Can anyone link me towards HD Texture packs for Awakening and Fates?
Thanks habibis
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Looking at how many characters are in FW, how quickly will they be trickled into FEH? The first 4 NH banners are obviously going to be the 4 lords and their retainers, so will the likes of Anatolia and Orchel be seasonals first? Theodora and Leda could also debut as seasonals
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>>578427935
>pantsless female gladiator
sexo
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>>578444093
>try to be anime
>less cinematic and animated than fucking FE Echoes

AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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what even?

Engage yurifags really love making shit up, dont they?
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>>578444312
Honestly this barely stacks up against Mystery of the Emblem
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>>578444284
The first 15 or so characters they revealed like the lords and their main small starting group and the Eshmels and that's it. FEH isn't lasting long enough to add anything else.
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>>578443941
I haven't seen anything spoilerly besides maybe that info on Anatolia
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>>578444495
>
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>>578444284
They should honestly do like 6 banners straight for FW and would probably make more money than if they did more lord alts + some literally who’s from other games
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It's been a while since I posted here but I just beat CQ Lunatic for the first time and wanted to talk about it
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>>578439085
So is Ursula and she's in charge of Talimun's company
Anna is getting mogged
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>>578445250
What was your favorite map?
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>>578445250
Did you use Mozu?
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>>578445250
How'd chapter 22 go? What units did you use and how'd you tackle the map gimmick?
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>>578443941
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>>578444093
She was nerfed without her gun
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>Peter has [difficult] negotiation
>just offer him donuts and he defects
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>>578446348
Interesting he also has white hair. Suppose he’s been crest experimented on too?
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Modern mode is the dumbest shit ever introduced.
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>>578426440
it will literally just be claude, but with a gun
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>>578435476
It's not a complete list though. I don't think Fianna shows uo either.
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>>578426440
China what now?
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>>578446348
He looks like he has multiple customizable hair types layered on all at once.
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>>578431271
talimun's angels
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>>578431271
gun nun
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>>578444343
i mean, merrin/chloe's support is pretty gay
>>578446750
pretty sure that list based on who is present on the map at that point, which we know shifts
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nerd
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>>578447454
>Seteth: "Only a few of the many noble families in this empire—let alone their warriors—have their own coats of arms."
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>>578447454
>>578447868
he doesn't seem too happy about this
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>>578447454
they did seteth dirty with that shade of yellow
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>>578448168
He reminds me of the Banana Ken from SF6 or whatever.
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>>578446842
HURRY HURRY BUY MY RICE AND CURRY
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Dante wears size 4 shoes.
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>>578448537
imagine how small she looks compared to her teammate Goliath...
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>>578448537
I want to take her quill and hold it just out of reach as she jumps for it.
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>>578448168
Kek I used to wear that exact shade so I like it
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>>578448537
Dante is 6'3"
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>>578446419
It's okay. She was kicking his ass so hard Eshmel had to come in and change the timeline right after that
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She scammed millions...
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>>578425826
Not as many people care about that as you think
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>>578448537
Dietrich is actually just 7'2
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>>578447454
>>578447868
my new headcanon is that every coat of arms in Fodlan was made by seteth
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>>578445497
Chapter 10 was fun. I kept it on a separate save and played it again a bunch of times.
>>578445750
I did. She didn't quite stick around to the end of the run, but she was a solid contributor.
The Sakura chapter? It was a lot more brutal than I thought. The reinforcements were crazy. For my winning attempt, I just loaded everybody into the left side, then Leo and Niles held the chokepoint to the west of Yukimura.
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I hope we get fortunes weave amiibos
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How do I get Talimun to scam me?
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>>578446348
why does that look like eshmel
is he one of those homunculus things?
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>>578447454
>>578447868
>>578449760
>coat of arms
he's talking about crests
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>>578449852
That last part was meant to reply to >>578445880
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Now that the dust has settled was FE1 a good game?
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Abigail and Nomved are two more playable characters we have the names of but haven't seen any designs for yet.

With Simon coming out of nowhere, I think there are probably a lot more characters hidden behind the embargo.
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>>578441348
switch 2 games sell poorly anyway and despite what /v/irgins believe FE is still a 'niche' franchise compared to stuff like zelda or mario.
i expect it to ship 2 mil max.
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i saw a post talking about how Seteth and Rhea are evil because they could technically give anyone a crest by letting them have some blood and the crest system wouldn't exist because of that, but how do people not get that Rhea and Seteth and Flayn don't really want humans having crests at all and just had to kind of accept crest bloodlines have persisted. They have Hanneman around to try and research something that might make crests less valuable to humans and constantly affirm to the nobles more upset by their crest situation to value the content of their character more than their crest. Yet people act like Rhea and Seteth and stuff are super in love with crests and think they're super epic and cool
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>>578444343
am i the only one who thinks the claw gloves are stupid looking
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>>578450720
We have seen next to nothing from the Games arc after the first five chapters of each route, which only go up to the first qualifier match in April/May. We know the final match is in November, so we're looking at 7-10 chapters just in the Games arc routes that we have seen nearly nothing from.
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>>578450651
FE3 improves it in nearly every way aside from losing out on some maps and characters. Stat boosters were balanced a lot better, QoL that didn't sacrifice the integrity of anything, and indoor maps are all good things.
I doubt many others here have played both.
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>>578450720
>40+ characters available right from first reaching dagsion in any route
>only one reviewer found simon

God imagine they're hidden like "you need to fish near this village and then sell the rare fish to get Simon in Dagsion"
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>>578450720
For a long time we also only knew about Jester from one previewer.
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>>578448484
this character's design was ruined by the lack of eyebrows.
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>>578450883
Rhea did some fucked up things, which means she's not allowed to have any nuance or have any viewpoints that are actually reasonable. Same thing with how some people treat Edelgard, really.
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>>578451021
>if you investigate a different looking texture on a bush in Cai's village you unlock a secret pre-promoted assassin unit
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>>578451021
We only know about paralogues from one reviewer, I wouldn't be surprised if characters are locked behind those too.
They've really gone full Warriors Orochi 3, recruit literally everyone to change the doomed present.
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>>578450720
Shez is really cute and actually pretty likable. Wish she wasn't locked to musouslop and gachashit
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>>578450720
>Nomved
What are the odds this is actually another 'Devdan' clone?
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>>578451548
She'll be the key to unlocking the true ending of Three Houses Golden, coming 2029
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>>578450883
>expecting the majority of 3H fans to be media literate
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>>578446348
What a waste of a good design if Leda just shanks him.
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>Leda can recruit that one generic bandit boss that Dietrich beats up in a bar fight
Wow so it's literally everyone
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>>578451381
really what Rhea did was something the Japanese lowkey want. She saw nuclear weapons be used on her people and pushed for full denuclearization to make sure it wouldn't happen again. It's a perspective that's lost on the english audience that projects the evangelical southern magachurch persona onto her that isn't at all accurate
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>>578450720
I don't think Nomved is playable, he'd show up on the list of characters if so
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>>578451802
>one generic bandit boss
Actually he's the true hero and the lost Flame Lord who had his place stolen by the evil interloper Dietrich. This is the reason Dagda falls btw
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>>578451802
to be fair he does have a pretty unique design
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>>578447454
Has anyone been keeping track of the number of coat of arms?
>promised one
>rebeira
>lamine
>megaira
>rose
>saramis
>arago
>brigid
>mosa
>brezarant (i assume they'll show it at some point)
>mane of flame
>moon's lie
>morning dew
>pale raven bride
>thundercloud
>gaia
>silver knights
>palma
>brotherhood
>temple knights
>mithras
>letchner
>bahr vahn
>balor
>neutral
>generic
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>>578446348
Troy's son.
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>>578452068
>>578452195
>every single one of his supports will be about him getting assmad about dietrich kicking his ass
It's kind of funny Dietrich didn't even kill him to begin with
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>>578451802
That bandit was holding a legendary relic and was going to enter the heroic games. I'm just surprised Dietrich never killed him.
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engage is gonna get buried so hard
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>>578452136
You're an addict loser
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>>578452136
Twitter edeltards are insanely dumb and yet their posts somehow get hundreds/thousands of likes. There's no way anyone plays the game and comes to the conclusions these people do, it's all either larping or collective psychosis based on forgetting the events of the game since they haven't touched it since 2019
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>>578451607
I prefer Devmon
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>>578452136
that hubert fan account is so annoying
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>>578452496
Never will because local schizos have brought it up every day for 3 years and will be doing it for another 3 years.
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>>578452683
another 3 years of engage discourse
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engage will never get buried as long as there are people that exist that wish to fuck the dwagons
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Majide could have been the new Nemesis...
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>>578453064
>omg dietrich and esmerelda are made for each other!!!!
>emserelda is recruitable by everyone
>this is what dietrich actually wants to do
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>>578452551
I think it's just a 2020 effect, Edelgard discussion was pretty nuanced in 2019 and stupid stuff like Dimitri MURDERS WOMEN and Claude using his white passing privilege was universally made fun of
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>>578443941
Leda's full name doko? Is her full name Lelidhana de Cydonia?
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>>578451808
>english audience that projects the evangelical southern magachurch persona onto her
westoids love doing this
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>>578428960
And Pomp Wario is voiced by Iranese.
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>>578453207
The lords give their permission for their retainers to help out others who give them lots of coffee and chess pieces
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>>578429257
Cuz some Bandits could be recruited after beating up. Like goliath. >>578429697
Is Gaitz involved in massacre of Cydonia?
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>>578451808
She also banned the printing press and medical science though
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>>578427847
Bertrand has too sharp nose for black. Can blacks have sharp nose?
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>>578453797
>printing press
to stop slither propaganda
>medical science though
only autopsies
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>>578453207
10 rep could very well be at a point where you knocked out the other lords from the tournament already.
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>>578441348
>>578441697
Why do troonz get so mad at the mere thought of 3H being outsold
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>>578453209
It's infuriating to see people project their morality and belief into these character, instead of trying to immerse themselves into the setting and see things from character's POV
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>>578453797
>Yu Phas also banned writing
Theodora loves her though
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>>578453797
And she banned bikinis too. Like Takaichi.(spite she allowed fanservices in anime, she banned bikinis from console games in Japan, spite she supposed to protect freedom of expression and destroy DEI cult like Edelgard)
Was Takaichi another Duke Aegir while Kishida and Ishiba did nothing wrong?
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>>578453948
Fictional characters can have anything.
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>>578454247
"conservative" rule also led to places like Texas requiring government ID for porn sites
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>>578453797
>printing press
She can see into the future and wanting to avoid a reformation to the religion that would evolved into a dicksucking contest for Duscur people "return" to their homeland (it's been promised by Sothis 3000 years ago)
>medical science
She can see into the future and wanting to avoid the tyranny of healthcare sector and its horrible jacked up prices
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>>578454215
it's one of those things that's annoying because you can really project any IRL political stance onto a character based on superficial information like these people do and most of the time that's all it really is, people taking superficial details and creating a political ideology of theirs around that.
>Edelgard HAS to be a super leftist revolutionary because she is bi and fights organized religion claiming it will totally "help the lower class"(but really she's consolidating power for herself)
>Dimitri is totally a racist conservative chud because he is fine with the church existing, wants his country to exist and thinks people in power should use their position to help people and knows that the people about to be put into power are about to enact useful changes to help people instead of radically stripping it all down(this is evil centrism since it's not violent revolution)
>Claude is totally on Edelgard's side because Edelgard definitely would be more accepting of outsiders than the church(she keeps a foreign country as a vassal state and is perfectly fine with holding the princess hostage as a soldier for that purpose because they're totally "friends") and since they got gaybaited by him, he's also a gay revolutionary leftist or whatever
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>>578451692
Good. I want them to be together.
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>>578454317
Theo's and her crew is literally just Daisy, Wario, and Waluigi
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>>578451692
>you can't get the best ending without getting Shez violently pregnant with Byleth's children
Based.
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https://strawpoll.com/B2ZB9llRBgJ

Best Byleth pairing with story focus characters?
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>>578455353
Aesir goddesses mog Vanir ones to be completely honest
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>>578455062
>>578455353
>Shez can manipulate space
>Byleth can manipulate time
They're perfect for each other
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>>578452136
edelgard and lysithea weren't experimented on because of "crest based society" though? this guy didn't play the game. Edelgard was experimented on because the slithers wanted to implant somebody with the crest of flames since they wanted someone that could wield the sword of the creator and wipe out the remaining nabateans so they could take over the world again. Lysithea was also part of this experiment since she was a test on the idea of implanting crests at all while Edelgard was specifically the crest of flames
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>>578455868
Who's the Giratina in the relationship?
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>Like a billion previews
>Still no name for Red Petra, or a sight of this mysterious white mage "Abigail"
>Meanwhile we got some random nigga named Simon literally nobody mentioned first

How fucking big is this game if there are characters only 1 in 20 guys are running into?
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>>578455767
I'm pretty sure Seidr is like half-aesir, and it's why she lacks goat horns.

>>578456260
Their kid.
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>>578439212
Wonder if Talimun will show his nipple.
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>>578455868
I feel as though their dispositions foil each other as well
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>>578438382
How old would she be? She was younger than Cai when massacre happened.
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>>578456517
male characters showing nipples is nsfw
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>>578456517
Men don't have nipples
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>>578455057
also edelgard being a bi option was totally to appeal to men, not for le wholesome leftist marx representation
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>>578456645
Well let’s think about it. She was younger than 15 at the time of her father’s murder 5 years prior. In the cutscene, I’d say she’s atleast 12. So probably somewhere in a range of 17-19 at the start of the Heroic Games
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>>578456297
What bothers me is that previewers never bother to cursor over a personal skill or move to a second page on a stats screen or anything like that. Violently triggers my autism.
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Summer Dietrich will save FEH and give it 5 more years and bring back new TT units.
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>>578456297
One previewer on Reddit did an AMA and said there were only like 15 playable characters you can recruit in Dagsion so I'm thinking a lot of these guys are a little retarded
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>>578456937
also Rhea the conveniently leave out Rhea being bi, so projecting their opinions on the catholic church on Rhea make no sense when she's clearly okay with gay people
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>>578457190
There are obviously more than 15 recruits in Dagsion and we already know that guy got certain details wrong because he said Fabio wasn't recruitable (he is)
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>>578451692
>>578455062
>>578455353
>>578455868
>>578456584
I never played Three Copes. What's the appeal of Shez's character and shipping her with Byleth? Or is it just that she's hot?
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>>578443228
Peter/Cai
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All of this discourse could be very easily avoided if people realized that Fodlan niggas are subhuman and genuinely insane and psychotic, and there's nothing short of full extermination that the continent will finally found peace without any baggage whatsoever
>hmmm see that dragon and their happy family? LETS KILL EM!
>hmmm see that kid bench press a wagon with one finger? LETS BREED EM!
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>>578457453
Hence
>so I'm thinking a lot of these guys are a little retarded
Trust what they show not what they say
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>>578457486
Shez is like the total opposite of the mute mary sue that is Byleth; An actually charismatic retard who is only good at fighting and isn't the center of attention.
Really, Shez is just a breath of fresh air for avatars in general. A better version of Robin, honestly. It's not even that FShez is hot, because MShez is also awesome.
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>>578457486
Dumb shounen protagonist with a lot of charisma who constantly loses to GODleth but never gives up
Their rivalry is prime fuel for shipping regardless of which genders you use
If it's FShez/MByleth it's a plucky girl getting her ass beat by a handsome chad and if it's MShez/FByleth you get Goku except he's a jobber who gets his balls stepped on by his dom waifu
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>>578457775
my FUARKIN hero...
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>>578457486
They're like that character from an anime who's a bum and constantly gets their ass beat but they're extremely likeable anyway and when they finally get their moment in the sun it's always kino.
They're likeable because they aren't a mary sue like Robin/Corrin/Alear/Byleth, they're down to earth and lose so much that when they find a way to win it feels earned.
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>>578458090
>latinx
buzz off
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>>578457775
>Shez
>Not a mary sue
They have a literal god living inside of them and everyone wants to hire them because they're the most elite mercenary ever
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>>578458224
>They have a literal god living inside of them
Arval isn't a god. He's an ancient Agarthan scientist attempting to resurrect himself by transferring a copy of his consciousness into a meat robot.
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Would Three Hopes be a better game if Shez were the protagonist?
But then he would be the one with god inside.
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I've never understood the argument that Shez makes Byleth look bad in Three Hopes because in the good endings Shez's record against Byleth is like 0 wins 1 draw 4 losses with Byleth getting recruited and in the bad endings Shez's record is 1 win 1 draw 3 losses and the world is a worse place because of it.
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>>578458445
>1 win 1 draw 3 losses
Sure but the 1 win has Shez killing Byleth and Sothis
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>>578457775
I wish to be loved by Shez.
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Rape Tallia
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>>578458398
you mean three houses? yes because shez talks. also, if shez' mom took the place of jeralt, she'd be much more interesting
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>>578458224
>loses constantly
>has to actually build up their strength through training and progressive victories
>isn't trusted by most people, especially because of their one unique thing about them
>has to earn that trust
Shez is like an anti-mary sue.
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>>578458335
this guy gets it
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Shez sucks
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>Byleth has an ending where he dies
Holy shit, what a jobber...
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>>578457920
>>578458892
>Shez sucks and fucks
Ftfy
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>>578458801
>>has to actually build up their strength through training and progressive victories
Also really ratty cowardly tactics like distracting Byleth with bait somewhere else and then trapping them in a fort to keep them out of a battle.

It makes it really believable that Byleth is this force of nature because even when Shez "wins" it's rarely by actually beating Byleth but instead finding a way to not fight them in the first place.
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>>578458801
They're a mary sue who gets out mary sue-d by Byleth
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>>578459024
Byleth is basically just Three Hopes BK in terms of presence.
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>>578459024
>and then trapping them in a fort to keep them out of a battle.
And it still only KINDA works, because Byleth breaks out anyways. Then starts running at cavalry speed, despite being an infantry.
>even when Shez "wins" it's rarely by actually beating Byleth but instead finding a way to not fight them in the first place.
It ramps up over the course of the game. You go from losing in a cutscene, to trying to avoid them, to 1v1ing and winning but still losing the overall battle, to actually winning.
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>>578458946
Formerly Ignatz's
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>>578459163
If Byleth is Lu Bu, who is Red Hare?
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>>578458770
>you mean three houses?
Yes my bad. I like Jeralt though.
I have been thinking a lot recently about how the perfect version of 3H would look like and I think student Shez with the Byleth plotline would have been perfect.
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>>578459494
I always saw it as
>Shez is an optional recruit in part 1
>lose them at the timeskip
>in part 2, there's a recurring teleporting scarf-wearing assassin
>if you recruited Shez in part 1, there's a paralogue to re-recruit them and save them from Epimenides
>otherwise, you have to keep fighting them
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>>578458335
Yeah the Epimenides shit is quite confusing but Arval isn't a god.
They're a mage who died in battle 1000 years ago but somehow saved a copy of their mind digitally. This was then implanted in a homunculus created by the Agarthans (Shez). It's implied none of the other Agarthans knew that Epimenides had set something like this up and it may have been some kind of automated system based on the opening scene of Shez appearing to be in a test tube.

"Arval" is like a sleeper agent for Epimenides, it's a fake persona that is friendly to the host and builds a trust with them, not even knowing what they contain. Then when it's convenient Epimenides' consciousness overwrites Arval's, hijacks the body of the host and then strikes when nobody expects it.

That's what happens in the good endings of Three Hopes, Shez befriends Byleth and Byleth begins to trust them. Seeing this, Epimenides activates and attempts to stab Byleth in the back and kill Sothis/another Nabatean.
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>>578458090
She is black for having black VA.
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>>578459027
You don't know what a Mary Sue is.
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>>578459669
which is also why epimenides never emerges in the bad endings, because shez kills byleth (and by extension, sothis) in those endings anyway
it's byleth (sothis) befriending shez that activates epimenides to take advantage of this and stab byleth (sothis) in the back
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>>578459629
I like the idea of him being a protagonist more than him being a recruit.
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>>578459629
>save them from Epimenides
Fuck you, lizard
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>>578459669
Yeah it's actually kind of fucked up when you know this because there are a lot of scenes of Arval really wanting Shez to kill Byleth and get "revenge", not knowing it's because Epimenides wants revenge on Sothis for killing them. They're both being manipulated by a third consciousness neither of them are aware of.
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>>578459669
what's the deal with shez' mom though?
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>>578460086
Shez's mom is implied to be an Agarthan that grew disillusioned with them and ran away, taking the infant Shez with them. They aren't actually Shez's mother. It was an early hint of the concept of "good" Agarthans like it seems like Fabio is.
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>>578460086
iirc just some random mountain villager in Ordelia territory
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Apparently this artist died.
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>>578460347
She wasn't a random because she knew how to read/write and was apparently highly intelligent and gifted with magic.
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>>578460303
>>578460347
Didn't the person who saved Shez hand Shez off to a villager? Pretty sure they're two different people.
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>>578460608
The way Shez talks about her to Ashe is very Agarthan coded though
>Shez: Kinda, yeah. Remember before when we were talking about my mom? The more I think about it, the more I'm realizing she really was a strange person.
>Ashe: What do you mean?
>Shez: Exactly that. Everything about her was kinda just...a mystery. I've spent hours trying to puzzle out how she might've ended up in that remote village, but I keep coming up blank. I mean, someone that smart is rare even in the biggest cities, right? She practically knew everything. Even using magic was a breeze for her.

She wasn't some random.
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>>578460462
thanks it was a while back when i played this
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My favourite Hopes random trivia was that Yuri is a fake name and he's actually called Regulus
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>>578461021
We already knew it was a fake name, we just didn't know what the real one was. Apparently he tells it to Byleth in their paired ending but it's not revealed to us
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>>578461021
Mine was learning that the "girl" Sylvain hit on as a child was Yuri.
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>>578461607
It's amazing how ugly his character model is compared to the art.
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>>578461607
sylvain is a hornier gatrie
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>>578462797
edeltards are literally warped by having to view everything through contemporary American politics
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>>578462797
She's right though.
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>>578462797
Trvke
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>>578457587
>official voice actors larping about gay faggotry and fantasizing about 15 year old kids having gay sex
the absolute fucking state of treehouse
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>the garrag mach uniform includes panties
Seteth, can you explain this
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>>578463554
>kids
They're fictional characters.
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>>578460727
the thing that's weird about her running away is that she stayed in leicester, i thought the implication is that she still close by to shambhala
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>>578463905
>it's totally normal for a professional voice actor to fantasize about underage kids having gay sex on their official account that they use to promote the game
in a normal company you'd get fucking fired for this shit you fucking retard
>b-but they're not real
but his pedo fantasies are
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Sorry Dietrich, but you're weak and will fall victim to the character development haircut. We need someone strong and virile like Gaitz to breed the exceptional black and brown women of FW.
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>>578461607
>sylvain and yuri flirting
>shamir reveal as bi
>lysithea with both shez's
>leonie and hilda's support
>monica
Why was Three Hopes gayer than Three Houses?
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>>578464173
>implying gaitz isn't getting reverse buck broken by bertrand
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>>578464207
pandering
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>>578463762
Seteth is a pervert
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>>578464559
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb82HXpg9q4
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>>578462797
>eloquest
sure let the white girl from america determine what constitutes literacy
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>>578464173
Gaitz is the Dedue to Mastah Bertrand's Dimitri
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>>578465096
Slowmo
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>>578464115
Again, they're not kids. They're fictional characters. Your inability to separate fiction from reality is a curse to all of civilization.
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>>578463762
The uniforms were designed before Seteth got there. So this is all Rhea again.
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>>578465297
>yes it's totally normal for a 40 year old dude to fantasize about kids fucking on his professional account because they aren't real
day of the rope can't come soon enough
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>Cav skill "knightly Senses"
I'm really curious about what Ninae's intended class trajectory is, one of her likes is the sky and her resistance is really but she seems a bit slow to be a Pegasus knight and she starts with a cav skill which I don't think applies to flyers. I'm assuming she's some sort of cav unit
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>>578464207
They likely saw the positive reception to the little amount of gay shit in 3H and amped it up slightly, not realizing that it being in moderation was what made it good.
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>>578465243
This game has the best impact and fall animations, it really looks they're stumbling and falling from the sudden change in momentum
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>>578464173
I don't understand how you can see this creature standing beside Bertrand at about half his height and think "that's someone strong and virile"
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Gonna have to diversify my teams and keep a spreadsheet of units per route so I can bring them all into part 2 at full power.
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>>578465243
Moo punches her right in the tit.
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>>578465243
Here’s the pantie shot
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>>578462797
They’re right. They could’ve made this more obvious by having her scoff or something. She was too nice to Dimitri and viewed him as a dog she used to love who she had to put down after it developed rage syndrome.
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Seeing how Ninae is a Vulcan do you think she and Castor ever, well you know how he is...
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>>578465096
More Leda sexo. From behind this time.
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>>578466256
That's how Simon was born.
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>>578466332
Slowmo
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>>578466332
HOLY SHIT. I want to watch that beast FUCK Alexandra.
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>>578466061
Why can hero like Leda and Theodora have pantyshot while Anatolia and Braid peg cannot?
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>>578465494
Since she's a Diviner, it's weird that she has a cavalry skill (Ornius Rider) at all. I wonder if characters get personalized skill lists to differentiate them more. Previewers are not up to the task of noticing details at that level so we won't find out until release date.
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>>578467197
Understandable.
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>>578467592
She is commoner.
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>>578467853
It still doesn't make sense though. Why does she have an Ornius Rider skill if she's in the shitty coughing baby class?
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Hornius Rider
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>>578468135
Is that the sequel to Hentai Kamen?
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How about Coomoner? Which characters are Coomoner?
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>>578468171
>griffon
>kinshi
>ornius
What is best bird mount
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>>578468034
I mean if you think about it she is a Vulcan and Cai is an ornius rider...
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>>578468520
Laguz. I’d mount one like Vika if you know what I mean
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Shez franchise.
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>>578468034
there's almost definitely a mounted healer class but we also don't know what her skill actually does
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>>578468872
There are 5 Beginner classes. Narrator says it in the Direct and if there was another mount we'd have seen it by now. So she is probably pathing into Ornius Rider if you read any significance into her having the Ornius Rider skill, it's just weird that she has it before actually being in it. Could be a quirk of the auto-leveling system.
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Eating sweets with Dietrich
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>>578469292
>haha wouldn't it be funny if me and your sister became besties?
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>>578468510
Why are only Theo, Pomp wario and Pirate Luigi nobles and most of playables are commoners including Dietrich Gregor Lamine?
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>>578469393
Do we know if Dietrich's little sister is a child or like Mercedes age?
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>>578469923
Fodlan nobility is not recognized in Dagda
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>>578470138
Wonder why only playable nobles in FW are Theodora Sergio Savanglen, Pomp wario, pirate luigi and Lysander Kratos.
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Kind of funny seeing women who were all in on Leda kneel over for Bertrand and Lechner.
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>>578469292

Dietrich getting status "diabetes leg", forced to cut his leg and promoting to wheelchair knight.
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>>578469227
Would there be a master class? Swwms like swordmaster, Fortress knight, holy lancer, sentinel, high savant, orichalchia exist,
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>>578468034
some characters just with a mounted/flying skills innately iirc Seteth has a flying despite being an commoner in one screen shot. Its probably like a secondary personal skill that it seems some characters have
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>>578470138
that's kinda retarded, imagine calling the emperor of japan a commoner when he visits another country
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>>578470692
There might be a Valkyrie-type class if that's what you mean. Yeah maybe she is meant to be a heals on wheels.
>>578470948
That's a good way of giving units a bit more unique personality if true
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>>578470948
>>578468034
riding and flying have seems to give you mount skills, they probably just have a skill by default for already having a certain rank in those stats
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>>578468872
she has retard tier magic, there's no way she's a healer or mage
she's kinda like a pegasus with speed swapped for strength
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>>578471882
assuming her having a cav skill means she has a higher riding rank than average I'm more inclined to say she's a cav with weirdly high resistance
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>>578471882
i know her bases are weird, need to see what her growths are and actually weapon strengths and weaknesses to figure out what you're supposed to do with her.
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>>578471882
>she has retard tier magic
She is in good company then. Honestly the Valkyrie theory is compelling and thematically appropriate. Most Valks have historically had giga shit magic and they actually descend from Nanna and Ethlyn, who were "Paladins" with awful magic stats.
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why would you pay money to see a used up whore like leda dance on stage
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>>578472339
so glad mine ended up nothing like that
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>>578472720
>18 mag at 20/20
scrimblo
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>>578472820
troub
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>>578472926
bandit bait
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Valkyrie are made for their brothers.
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>>578472339
>>578472720
>>578472926
30% magic growth can really mess her up
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I can't believe Jean Grey stole Peter away from Lucina. Awakening truly is culturally irrelevant now.
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>>578473049
>implying they can touch her with FE6 axes
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>>578473731
Jean had more charisma with Peter than Lucina did.
Lucina was just Laura Bailey playing herself, and Peter was just told to like her by the narrative. They had nothing going on. Fanart also has to exaggerate her proportions, which are usually squarish and unattractive.
She probably only got the role because of her father, Chrom.
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Did anyone save this media preview from Gamersyde before it was privated?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gam0ns4Wzms
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>>578470138
its funny how peppe is a noble in dagda but petra is a commoner in fodlan
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>>578474168
what did they say that they shouldn't have?
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>>578473137
Lachesis caused irreparable damage to this series.
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>>578474384
It was uninterrupted prologue gameplay (the part with Eshmel and Hong Hua). It honestly wasn't interesting unless you just want to be spoiled on that part of the game specifically. I had a chance to watch it and clicked out when I realized what it was.
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>>578474384
As far as I can tell, they didn't show anything that other previews didn't show. It just didn't have any commentary which is why I wanted to see it again. But I found a mirror on bilibili
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>>578474948
and why wouldn't you link it you fucking idiot
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Roy is coming to Shadows
A shame, I wanted Camilla
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>>578475398
>another skip season
They really wanna kill this game, huh?
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>>578475270
Here damn
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1LpgF69Ezt/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.3
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>>578475550
Feels like they're just going after CYL winners, which is a shame because I thought they would go after lesser known characters after they put Yunaka into the game.
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>>578475398
people still play this?
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>>578476492
Yes, we still play Shadows, it's just that updates are slow for the game.
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CunnyBunnysithea
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>>578475398
The hair doesn’t look like Roy. The fur on the boots don't really match either. Either this art is taking a few liberties, or it’s not him.
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>>578476492
I do, but I always stop once my pass hits 25 for the third f2p soul.
They have yet to release a character that tempted me to spend.
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>>578476682
Is it worth getting back into if I only played for like a month at release?
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>>578475398
What happened to Tsubasa? She won the Shadows cup
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>>578476492
>people still play this?
well...
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>>578477179
The Shadows Cup is for FEH alts.
Dimitri and Edelgard are in like October, while Claude and Tsubasa are a later date.
We have no idea if they'll add Tsubasa to Shadows itself, but it's likely, since they're designing concept art for her for the FEH alt.
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>>578477180
yeah that's about what i figured
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>>578477180
14k revenue
how are they still going?
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>>578477130
Yeah, it's the kind of game that's easy to get back into. I've seen lots of players wait for a whole book to drop before playing again just to read the story.
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>>578475570
NTA but thanks I missed this
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>>578430420
you slutty clown!!! stop tempting me!!!
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>>578477180
>5k in August but still going
Hot damm, how little effort goes into this game?
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>>578477179
Shadows cup is for FEH, FES didn't get anything from it.
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>>578477662
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>>578477180
14k. and i guess apple / google take like 30 percent of that too
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What are your biggest fears for FW?
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>>578478883
no hortensia
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>>578478883
Engage character writing. 3H map quality.
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>>578478883
Already came true. An Engage character will pop up and even be playable
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>>578478883
I basically think it's guaranteed to be awesome for one run but I'm not sure it will be very replayable, and Fire Emblem is normally highly replayable. So that.
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>>578478883
Awful replayability like with 3H
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>>578478883
being even more of a 3H copy that doubles down on it's weakest parts
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>>578478883
Another Radiant Dawn.
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>>578477180
Why haven't that EoS'd this shit already? It's just bleeding money.
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>>578478883
Writing like Engage or Fates.
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i was busy all day and i come back to a bunch of recruitment shit and new characters what the fuck did i miss
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>>578480186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGIqmJ44wyU
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>>578477905
fucking titensia
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>>578480029
Because Nintendo is more willing to bleed money than let a moblie game die early that could damage their reputation.
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I love Shamir
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>>578480816
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>>578476682
Kurt in FEH when? I want this flat puppy girl in my barracks now
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what is the next hortensia alt gonna be?
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>>578481138
kill yourself for wanting an ugly dyke character
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>>578481068
she needs to get bigger in the next alt
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>>578481138
>flat
She chestbinds.
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>>578481138
Who knows, feels like IS just throws a dart at the wall to see what new heroes get into FEH at this point.
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>>578482736
>september is FW
>august was braves
>but july could have been Shadows
Why the fuck did we get more Alears?
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>>578482823
At least I got Jade out of it, the only Engage character I cared about besides Yunaka.
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>>578482979
... Wasn't worth it.
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>Buccar has a southern drawl
Not what I expected.
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>>578483104
Don't worry Kurtbro, they might have a Shadows banner next month in FEH during Shadows 1 year anniversary.
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>>578483554
Next month is FW, ya mook.
Probably the month after, too.
The only Shadows unit in FEH is Lyn, and then Dimitri and Edelgard.
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>>578481605
indeed. and less covered up
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>>578478958
>>578480147
But IGN, Eurogamers, Gamespot said that FW's story is deep and complex, while they criticized engage's story as shallow and like morning drama in preview.
It shows that Kusakihara will be in command, as well as 4 tier classes, surnames and book 2 appearance as well.

As commander is important as well as writer.
For example, Kamen rider geats is masterpiece of reiwa.
But Kamen rider Zeztz is absolute disaster which fucked up kamen rider and its sale, making kamen rider fall so soon, when Geats, gotchard and gavv were masterpieces in reiwa rider and both Geats and Zeztz share the same writer, Takahashi yuya.
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>>578483718
Not seeing it, Three Hopes took 4 fucking months to get a banner and I could see the same happening to FW as well because IS is retarded.
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Cutesithea!
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>>578478883
Kusakihara's design, Komuro's story.
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>>578484913

Those publications are honor-bound to pretend fortune weave is really good because how brown it looks.
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>>578486093
Even Kusakihara being in command won't compensate Komuro writing just like Awakening did?
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Is the Kamen rider thing pasta?
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Any crackships you have? I unironically think Lysithea x Sothis could be good as a girl who's scared of ghosts being haunted by a ghost
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>>578486628
Arval x Sothis stuck in the same host body. They fight over the real estate.
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>>578484913
never trust game websites. you should know that
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>>578484913
Dude, IGN said that Fates had a "gut-wrenching story". I'm not trusting any shit they write or any other gaming site for that matter.
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>>578486560
Geats is masterpiece while Zeztz is absolute disaster, and both are by same writer.
I wanted to tell u about director matters as well as writer. But is Kamen rider anime too?
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>>578487873
I'm so sad that people still care what game journalists have to say in 2026.
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>>578488151
Gamergate was over a decade ago you can stop seething now.
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>>578488467
Have journalists gotten any better in that time?
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Has Anatolia been shown playable?
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there should be a character in FW with xavier-tier recruitment (real thraciaheads know)
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L-L-L-Lava
C-C-Chicken
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>>578478883
no paired endings
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https://x.com/kanade20207/status/2091410289040437315?s=46&t=OJQG5PY2tf66izJZB7qIQQ
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>>578485779
She could've saved feh
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Olympia and Leda aren't dykes btw
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Do we know about yuri options? I want to make a fem avatar and fuck cuties.
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>>578496290
Leda would have had confirmed hawt sapphic yuri with M14 instead.
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>>578496924
No S ranks and likely no paired endings.
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Frogwife no! She’s 15!
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Nathan and Creek don’t seem to have appeared on any character’s support lists so far right?
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>>578498095
>She’s 15!
Yeah, a bit too old.
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>>578489009
you're going to have to take it up the ass now
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>>578463762
Would you rather it not?
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>>578466332
>>578466480
Nice!
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>>578462797
>edeltards unironically trying to defend the "must you continue to reconquer" line as if the game's writing is "too smart" for the average person who agrees that line sucks
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>>578462797
Always odd seeing people trying to defend the worst line TH
El is just shit at making speeches. She might have high charm, but her social skills are somehow on the level of a terminally depressed NEET
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Is Close Counter only useful for bow users?
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>>578497527

>sapphic

There are way too many troons here
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>>578480029
>>578480892
Duh. Any legacy character with an Emblem has to have a furry counterpart just to make a reboot version of Engage work. And by that, I mean take the manga version of the story and apply it in the game while also adding in paired endings for the eventual Switch 2 Edition. And most of the legacy characters in Shadows all have an Emblem anyway, except Yunaka.
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Must you continue to regurgitate? To calorie count in retaliation?
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>>578437731
They probably auto join later on
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>>578503029
We know Leda has a support with Talimun. I think they just have routes they won't join.
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>>578500096
The panties don't look sexy at all. It looks like a diaper, the way it hides her curves.
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If you want a real answer: Western game sales significantly outnumber japanese sales the ratio has become extremely lopsided for packaged game sales where even japanese games make like 80% of their money overseas.

And when they ask their overseas counterparts what they should add they inevitably hear "make it more gay/brown"
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>>578504364
Aimed at >>578425826
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>>578425826
>>578504364

But why is it pre ordered a lot in JP and US amazon, more than PBZ, Trails 2nd and onimusha?
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>>578505490
When PBZ supposed to be a greatest shill for Anti woke but no one preordered this in amazon store, which Chinks and gooks cannot use. But spite muh body type A/B, muh troon VA, muh browns, lots of people pre ordered this, causing sold out in some stores.
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>>578504364
But why is Japanese console game getting bikinis goner in 2026 when Takaichi became PM to destroy DEI cult like Edelgard? When Japanese console game used to have lots of bikinis in 2024-2025 when it was great DEI era ironically?
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FW's cast looks good if you're not racist.
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>>578506967
I actually liked the brown girls in a lot of FEs, like Catherine, Flavia or Rinka. But the ones in FW just don't do it for me. Tiara is the only one I found decent so far.
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>>578506967
There are a lot of stinkers. They look better than Engage, and the artstyle and graphics are above 3H, but in terms of character design it ranks below the latter and other games in the series.
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>>578503309
I'm guessing there's one character that each of them hate. I can see Anatolia hating Dietrich and never joining him.
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>>578508242
>>578507152
Why did it got lots of pre order in amazon when there are sky 2nd, Onimusha, dawnwalker on september spite muh brown muh type A/B muh troon VA?
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>Chinese Edelgard
>Yellow fever chinkaboo Dimitri
We just have to see the Claude clone now.
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>>578496924
Engage is there for you
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>>578509287
that's talimun
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It's crazy that they put all that work into zoomed in view in three houses including rendering all the battallions on the battlefiel at all times so you can zoom in and out seamlessly and they just canned it after one game because no one ever uses it
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>>578510063
pic related
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>>578503860
The church upholds the crests which make a stinky diaper
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Charlie Kirk raped me
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I wish I could be loved by a cute princess...
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>>578511754
MYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESSMYEMPRESS
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>>578511754
MY empress
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>>578512657
>Fates capturable unit
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MY empress
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>>578475398
>>578475550
>Popular Hero who sells bigly, completely eclipses devpets like Lucina despite constant mistreatment
>Skip Month
Huh? What's this schizophrenia?
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Edelgard should have been a guy
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My EMPRESS
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>>578513658
Cute.
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>>578513362
He would have been just as retarded and toxic to Dimitri as the og.
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>>578461607
You literally can't understand that bit of trivia if you played the english dub because okama was translated as "strawman" for whatever reason
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>>578515705
>toxic
stop talking like a fag
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>>578462797
Man this is so embarassing. What does it cost them to aknowledge the line is garbage and make fun of it like everybody else? That's what Dimitrifags do for the weeds and the spaghetti he throws everywhere. I guess they just can't do it because they have already decided Edelgard is a charismatic leader and so they can't aknowledge any fact that contradicts this. They WERE literally gaslighted by Edelgard.
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>>578509526
Talimun can't be the Claude reference, he's actually narratively important
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>>578516232
I'm esl I pick whatever word comes first and I don't care how you feel about it politically, angloturd.
Go play a chuddier game or whatever it is you do.
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>>578478883
The subsequent FE sequels will now have DEI casts. If it's a couple or a few characters or a region, that's one thing, but every other dude? God help us
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>>578478883
Being 5 chapters in and having read nothing of interest, just bad shonen slop and engage tier cutscenes. Also no good ways to engage further or learn more about characters I really like, now that teatime is gone.
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>>578517193
>teatime is gone
Now it's birdtime
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>>578517365
I want legit dates and interaction, not a "husbando pours seeds in the feeder" simulator. This minigame is fucking retarded.
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>>578515705
And? Based?
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>>578517738
>This minigame is fucking retarded.
I agree. It's dumb as fuck.
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>>578511754
same. all an anon needs is a cute princess...
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>>578518773
What is the point then? The yaoi isn't even good.
Delende Edelgardo
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Should I make Cai an elephant rider or keep him a chicken jockey?
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>>578517193
Would it be lead by Kusakihara or Komuro? Tier 4 classes, Surname on characters, book 2 appearance seems like Kusakihara, and journalists like IGN, gamespot, Eurogamers saying FW's story being deep and complex which is opposite from they criticized engage's shallow and childish story in preview implies that Kusakihara will lead FW.
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>the bird is filtering datesim shitters
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>>578520306
Explain to me why an avatar is necessary to the game if you delete all the ways to interact meaningfully with the characters while playable characters get nothing.
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>>578519589
>What is the point then?
Men inherently look better as emperors and strong rulers. Rhea does a good job looking like an imposing leader since she has an hair of danger and motherly authority. However Edelgard comes across as an angry womanlet. Aesthetically, she fits better as a man within the narrative. Furthermore, writers would feel less pressured to whitewash their actions to appeal to waifufags. Yumes are insane and they don't care about their husbando being a mentally ill warmonger.
>The yaoi isn't even good
This is not about some dumb fujos, but Edelgardo and Dimitri would definitely be the most popular ship in the series.
>Delende
What?
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>>578504364
IS have already backpedalled from making it all gay after how disastrous Engage was.
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>this is irresistible to revenge-obsessed dancers and gunslinging nuns
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>>578520584
Explain to me why an avatar is necessary to the game for you
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>>578478883
Engage character/story/world writing and for the routes to have heavy map reuse after chapter 5.
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>>578520745
Dancer seems Leda route exclusive.
Would Cai, theodora, dietrich have their own class,
like Vulcan knight(sword/lance/riding), Highlord(spear/axe/light magic), Slayer(sword/axe/dark magic)?
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>>578520871
But journalists said that FW will have deep complex story in preview while they said about engage having shallow, saturday drama like story.
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>>578520595
>what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthago_delenda_est
>However Edelgard comes across as an angry womanlet. Aesthetically, she fits better as a man within the narrative
Fuck off chud, nobody cares about your pussy phobia. Moreover we've seen boomer red emperors a thousand times already. A red empress is a good idea concept wise, it just wasn't executed well. And her being a cute boy would have changed nothing since most of her issues have nothing to do with her being a woman.
>furthermore, writers would feel less pressured to whitewash their actions to appeal to waifufags
This one I can agree with but again that's not on the character being a woman that's entirely on the writer being a pussy and a waifufag.
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>>578521239
The problem is, most of these reviewers also heavily praised Engage and then only heel turned when they realised the fanbase hated it.

They are extremely disingenuous, they heaped praise on Engage when it came out and then trashed it in their FW reviews. I don't trust them to not be lying.
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>>578520808
It is not. I'd be fine with a playable protagonist.
But there happens to be an avatar in FW so answer the question.
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>>578520871
So, Would it be lead by Kusakihara or Komuro? Tier 4 classes, Surname on characters, book 2 appearance seems like Kusakihara, and journalists like IGN, gamespot, Eurogamers saying FW's story being deep and complex
which is opposite from they criticized engage's shallow and childish story in preview implies that Kusakihara will lead FW.
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>The red Petra-looking girl is a late-game is a confirmed late game recruit
Red Petra bro... I'm sorry
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engage has good story better than 3h in fact.
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>>578521548
You're here 24/7, get a trip at this point
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>>578521381
Engage's story was criticized in preview as "shallow, saturday drama like story" tho.
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>>578521548
I like this joke
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>>578521519
who?
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>>578521409
There shouldn't have been an avatar in this game at all and there's a high likelihood his forced conclusion will completely fuck the game's writing in Part II. But at least by not being a significant presence in Part I, I can finally enjoy a modern Fire Emblem game without a mute retard or a Gary Stu warping the narrative around himself like a black hole.
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>>578425826
Because /feg/ is full of them too. Notice how poor quality the general is now adding.
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>>578521670
But then he'd need three trips, one for when he avatarfags as Veil, one for fem Alear, and another for Hortensia.

>>578521519
>girl
I hope you mean the V tatoo girl and not Pepe
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>>578520871
It's impossible for the character/story/world writing to be worse than engage at this point.
The arena recycles maps. Out of the 12 qualifying matches, 7 are unique maps. This is pretty much confirmed at this point.
Out of the 12 real matches that come after, I'm think 9 have unique maps, but that's just a theory based on what they have shown so far.
>>578521381
>most of these reviewers also heavily praised Engage
No they didn't. Also there was no one discussing and theorizing about Engage plot before release.
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>>578521973
You're a lying sack of shit. We had a lot of discussion about the plot.
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>>578522046
Maybe inside your dumb schizo head lol
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>>578522130
3Htard, you're not gonna gaslight anyone into believing you.
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>>578521519
>confirmed
Where? All I've seen is speculation
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engage story? classic fire emblem
3h story? loreslops for secondaries
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>>578522324
I don't have to, everyone who was here knows it's true. Sorry you were too busy wasting your mom's money on a crappy gacha game, little man.
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>>578521815
>>578521901
>>578522353
Basically it's been figured out that we only actually know about her from one JP trailer, that must be very late game Leda route because in that map she's fighting Theodora. Also, none of the previewers have run into her, which means she's probably like Nathan/Creek and she's a boss unit you fight late into the qualifiers, beyond the current embargo.
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>>578522583
I don't play FEH you fucking retard.
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Shadows Book 1 story? classic fire emblem
Genealogy story? loreslops for secondaries
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>>578522731
So you didn't need a gacha game to melt your brain? It came like by default? Impressive.
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>>578522790
>Shadows Book 1 story? classic fire emblem
CORRECT
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>>578521843
Are we sure the lords speak when you click a dialogue option though? I never paid attention.
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>Clownschizo is actually mindbroken by years of Heroesfags making fun of Engage
Lol
Don't worry the rest of the fanbase don't see you as the lowest of the low, you're the second lowest after the Heroesfags
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>>578523163
Correct
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>>578523163
How about Shadowsfags?
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Where are the brown lolis?
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>>578523506
You're a novelty, like finding a shiny Pokemon
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This game really is Radiant Dawn 2.0? Character bloat might be the game's critical undoing.
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>>578523163
>you're the second lowest after the Heroesfags
FATESBROS WE'RE SO BACK?!
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>>578523163
ohhh no..... feh is flopping. what ever will i do?
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>>578523691
It's Radiant Dawn where you can pick your lord and path, units auto-level with game progress, and everyone has about 5 or more supports. So no, it's not Radiant Dawn.
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>>578523691
It doesn't really matter that much as long as the core cast is solid.
It could work if there's a cast of 20 or so "real" characters to appease storyfags and then the rest are just random scrunkos to give gameplayfags variety.

The only worrying thing I've seen so far is that the early game recruitment pool seems very similar across the four routes because a lot of characters are locked behind beating them in the arena first.
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>>578523880
Do you understand the concept of hyperbole?
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>>578523691
Who is the Downs Brigade this time
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>>578523602
Kuro's thoughts on blond boys?
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>>578524027
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>>578524027
>This game really is Radiant Dawn...
Maybe you don't know how to communicate your intent, because what you're saying here is "this game is quite a bit like Radiant Dawn, so much so it will inevitably share its flaws," when it's not except in a superficial way (for the reasons I indicated).
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>theodora can recruit sofia with 2 renown
>cai needs 9 renown
So clearly there is some intent from IS on who they want each MC to be recruiting early
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>>578524690
Maybe you knew perfectly well what I meant and you're taking it at face value to force false discussion that makes you feel intellectually superior.
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>>578524790
I think you're just retarded or something. Don't ask stupid questions you don't want the correct answer to. It's not all that similar to Radiant Dawn. Your observation wasn't useful.
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>>578524695
Apparently Guzran is a forced recruit for Cai and Yang Jie is one for Dietrich, they're tied to mandatory quests. Sofia is probably Theo's equivalent and Leda gets somebody else.
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>>578524965
I think you're resorting to personal insults because I hit a nerve. Work on that ego, kid.
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now that i know retainers are recruitable im grabbing esmeralda, mu, and lilian on my cai playthrough to harem max
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>>578525058
asshurt
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I've been generating so much sloppa with novel ai v5....
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>>578525246
Yes, you are.
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>>578524695
I'm glad they're doing this. I had only seen renown requirements of 7 or 9 for Sofia, but the fact that she's 2 for one of the lords means they're pushing asymmetry pretty hard which is always healthy sign for game's balance and longevity.
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engage is REAL fire emblem chud
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>>578525418
yeah we know.
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>>578525418
We've been saying this unironically since it launched???
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>>578524997
Probably Catania for Leda, she's at 2 renown for her, and I saw a Anna tutorial mentioning her as an option to recruit
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>>578478883
Aleady happened
>Engage designs
>Engage characterization (Leda being a ragie and other such cases)
>Name-sharing (Castor...)
>$80 videogame
>timeskip
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>>578525273
post goldmary smut please...
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>>578525626
Damn they really are doubling down on Leda getting all of the hot characters.
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>>578525273
bigtensia for me.
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Three Houses betrayed Fire Emblem by convincing everyone that the series’ natural evolution was becoming a school-life chore simulator where the actual tactical battles occasionally interrupt your lunch dates. Fire Emblem used to understand its own appeal: put little idiots on a grid, make me agonize over a 67% hit rate, and ruin my evening with an ambush spawn. Three Houses instead asked, “What if you spent half the game jogging around a monastery returning lost gloves?” Incredible. Truly the future of strategy gaming.

And now Fortune’s Weave looks like it’s iterating on that formula while also adding dungeon crawling and a completely separate turn-based combat system, which is the funniest possible admission that Three Houses-style Fire Emblem is apparently not fun enough on its own. “Guys, the player has been talking to anime teenagers for 40 minutes and their dopamine levels are critical. QUICK, PUT A DIFFERENT RPG INSIDE FIRE EMBLEM.” You already have turn-based combat. It’s called Fire Emblem. If your solution to making Fire Emblem exciting again is letting me crawl through caves and select “Attack” from a traditional JRPG menu, perhaps the grid-based strategy franchise has slightly lost the plot.

The series does not need twelve auxiliary genres desperately injecting “fun” between monastery chores. It needs good maps. Give me sieges, defense missions, split armies, weird terrain, resource pressure, nasty enemy formations—anything that makes the actual Fire Emblem part exciting. Fortune’s Weave may turn out great, but right now it has the energy of Intelligent Systems staring at the Three Houses formula, realizing it’s kind of boring, and responding by stapling more videogames to it instead of simply making Fire Emblem fun by making Fire Emblem fun.
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>>578525925
Yeah because she's a turbo dyke like Dorothea.
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>>578427871
It's almost feels like IS is trying to replicate FE1's original intended play style of having a giant pool of more or less interchangeable and replaceable characters you're expected to let die en-masse and never have the same team on any two playthroughs. But FE1 could do that because units had no supports or characterization, most of them were literal palette swaps of each other, growths were near non-existent and had little to no variety, there were no skills to differentiate units of the same class, and IS legit thought people were going to play Ironman as the default, but none of those things are true for Fortunes Weave.
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>>578520745
If Anatolia and Eshmel are both divine homunculi, why doesn't Anatolia get a bird form too
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>Cai - Guzran
>Dietrich - Yang Jie
>Leda - Catania
>Theodora - Sofia(?)
Leda getting more sluts and Deitrich getting more random weirdos
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nopanatolia
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>>578426262
Reminder we've seen nearly none of the mid to late game part 1 recruits like Nathan, Creek, and the Brigid girl
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>>578525983
Yeah sure. Weave still looks ludokino.
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>>578526202
Here's the 2 renown recruit reqs for Sofia by Theodora
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>>578526315
Brigid girl?
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>>578525983
All of the dialogue and most of the side mechanics are skippable. Just put your little idiots on the grid and be done with the game in 10 hours
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>>578526472
>likes delicious food
>lots of food
DUDE
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>>578526472
And the 9 renown req for Cai; funny thing is that she's totally a worse unit, including being a commoner instead of a diviner. I think you'll be able to tell when you're intended on recruiting a character if they actually have a higher class
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>>578526645
illyana 2.0
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>>578525983
FW is not "iterating on a formula" it's doing what 3H was always supposed to be in the initial plans but couldn't be because of time and budget constraints.
Also you guys really need to stop blaming 3H for everything. If investors and executives think mitigating risks by creating game loops that involve only 33% of actual trpg gameplay instead of 80% then it's the fault of investors and executives, not the game they pushed out. It's just a game. You come off as a schizo.
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>>578526770
She's lvl 3 in this image and lvl 7 in the other one, probably because Cai's image is earlier in the game.
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>>578525273
Was it boobs or cute outfits or what?
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>>578526770
>including being a commoner instead of a diviner
That's just how everyone starts out (most likely). Then they autolevel with chapter progress. We can probably estimate Sofia's growth rates at this point honestly, there have been so many screenshots of her at different levels specifically.
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>>578525983
Fire Emblem has always been about innovation aside from the shovelware entries like GBA.
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>>578527023
So you're okay with a TRPG heavily sanding down the T element.
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>>578527108
>1 spd point after 6 levels
It's over. This fattie belongs to the bench.
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>>578527023
>then it's the fault of investors and executives, not the game they pushed out
What a retarded fucking consoomer argument. So you can't critique a game anymore? It's all just business?
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>>578527151
Yeah, innovation in terms of making the tactical side more interesting. Bolting on life simulation elements and final fantasy combat is not necessarily the same thing.
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>>578527320
She's soft and plump from a sedentary lifestyle of studying the mystic arts, and eating. The Ilyana-Micaiah archetype.
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>>578525983
>Noooo why don't they release the same game every year
Kill yourself
Kaga knew that the appeal of Fire Emblem was radically changing the mechanics between entries and giving the player a new experience each time
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hey just so you fags are aware because the switch 2 isn't hacked, you're not gonna see any growth rates. Hope you don't brick yourself
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>>578527436
That's just your opinion.
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>>578527691
Get with the times, slowpoke
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>>578527691
>he doesn't know
Kek what a retard
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>>578527815
>>578527865
Fuck you.
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>>578527907
Man, that's embarrassing.
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>>578527151
>Fire Emblem has always been about innovation aside from the shovelware entries like GBA.
Most "muh classic FE" fags are complete LARPers who only like Conquest and Engage. Even more have never touched a pre-GBA entry so they actually believe that asset flip shovelware entries were the norm for Fire Emblem.
The GBA era was unironically a low point for the series, every game is the same slop, a garbage boiled down version of Thracia that can be solved with a javelin and a forest tile.

Anybody who types dumb shit like this needs to be tied to a chair and forced to play FE2-5 back to back. Then see if they come back crying and whinging about dumb shit like the games changing too much between entries. That was literally the point. These niggas are addicted to the shovelware trash era of FE where they were shitting out an asset flip every year.
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>>578440382
NTA but doesnt your own language have its own simplified version in casual spaces? Why is that not the case for English? English is more complicated than other languages too.
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>>578528035
>we
Get the fuck out.
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>>578528090
Make me!
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>>578527995
They remade Gaiden. The LARPers hated it. They'd hate Genealogy too so I'm not sure why they keep screaming for a remake. Kaga FE, the original FE, was not like the GBA era. It was far more like the Switch era where every game was something completely different and experimental. Genealogy and Gaiden are about as similar as Three Houses and Engage are.
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>>578525983
toxic nostalgia: the post
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You guys can just admit you want to have sex with schoolgirls and brown people. No need to justify it with "w-well it's always been experimental!!!:
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>>578528253
I don't want modern ISYS to demake my favorite FE game, Genealogy.
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>>578528410
This is the only good official art of Dorothotea. Goddamn, what a fat fucking ass.
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>>578528410
>"w-well it's always been experimental!!!:
But this is the truth. The original series was completely different with each entry, except for FE3 which was a remake.
I'm sick of GBA uncs who won't play the older games in the series pretending that somehow their slop is the default when they're literal asset flips 6-8 entries in and not even made by the original creator.
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>>578528410
>you want to have sex with schoolgirls
Yes, babymaking sex.
>brown people
Not in particular. Even in FW I prefer the light skin female characters. I'm just not gay enough to call a hot girl ugly just because she has brown skin. Also not retarded enough to get absolutely mindbroken about brownies in a game that I'm going to play anyway.
>it's always been experimental
Correct, it has aways been at its core.
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>>578528494
>This is the only good official art of Dorothotea.
Bro, your brainwashed silken dancer?
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When you play Tearring Saga and realise it would have been FE6, and then you compare it to the actual FE6, you will cry at how hard the GBA era kneecapped the series with watered down mechanics, copypasted plots/characters and a total lack of interest in story or worldbuilding.
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>>578528090
Southerner?
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The thing is, I really do agree with the anon and he expressed his point articulately and humorously, so much so I think he dug up a copypasta somewhere.
But like...
it looks good?
I don't know what to tell you. 3H looked like slop and was slop. Didn't even buy it until 3 years later. FW just looks fantastic and it's a day 1 for me. Have played the whole series btw.
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>>578529046
Fire Emblem isn't allowed to change from a specific era of Fire Emblem 7 entries in that game out 20 years ago.
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>>578527158
I literally haven't pushed forward a single opinion I had on the matter, retard. Reading comprehension isn't just for school, use it.

>>578527342
Games don't just pop up on the switch anon. They're the result of people with money making money conscious decisions. 3H hasn't started anything, it's the result.
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Notice how his point of adding turn based battles was so good, none of you are touching on it.
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I like turn base battles
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The reason the embargos end at Chapter 5 is because Chapter 6 is when Sothis opens a portal to Fodlan in the future and brings over the three iconic house leaders :)
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>>578529450
>MCU multiverse slop
Engagebros we're so back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>578529447
I do too.
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I still have hope that we will get a blatant female Shamir ancestor in the game.

Or at the very least there still being unrevealed characters could mean we get another "stoic choker wearing pale cool beauty with short hair" in the game as a Shamir clone.
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>>578529581
>>MCU multiverse slop
It's kinda fucked that like every FE since Awakening has been this, aside from Fodlan so far.
Awakening, Fates, Heroes, Echoes, Warriors, and Engage all have this shit.
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>>578525273
who. what artstyle. is it animated. tell me more anon.
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>>578526243
My pale bride does as I like her to.
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>>578526243
I forbade her from wearing panties.
And my scripture also says she needs barbell and navel piercings.
For divine reasons.
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>>578530163
Echoes didn't have it
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>>578530289
>>578530647
Not for Eshmel, cucks
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>>578527995
>that can be solved with a javelin and a forest t- ACKK!!
The fucking irony of saying something like this while posting something from FE4.
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>>578528989
huh, we really are like 13% of the population. thought there'd be more of a spread across the country.
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>>578530780
But who is? There's always a dedicated avatar dick-sucker
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>>578530674
>he doesn't know
Echoes had Einherjar based on non-Archanea/Valentia characters like Roy and Ike which is technically from FE12, so add that one too.
It also added in Grima from Awakening as a retcon.
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>>578530963
The Chinese lady with brown hair
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>>578531057
>b-b-but Amiibos!
This is pathetic.
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>>578530674
>>578531057
Oh, AND the Cipher characters. Forgot about them. I don't know what world they're from, but if it's not Valentia, it's more MCU shit.

>>578531136
And yet it's canon and official. Meanwhile, your comebacks are weak and limp.
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>>578531057
Those are basically just spirits that you can summon. Archanea is right across the sea from Valentia as well so it's not a retcon
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>>578530780
>"bride of the pale raven" somehow isn't for the pale raven
You feeling good? Need a snickers?

>>578531262
>Those are basically just spirits that you can summon.
Yep. From other worlds. As Gotoh said in FE12. So MCU shit.
>so it's not a retcon
Do you know what a retcon is? Grima didn't exist in FE1-5, so adding him to backstory is a retcon.
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>>578531230
Except it isn't canon, it's a bonus for retarded fanboys who buy plastic waste from Nintendo.

Heroes isn't canon either.
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>>578531057
Giving Grima actual lore isn't a retcon you dumb ass. Also, they're from the same world.
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Good afternoon, /feg/!

I see discussion is lively today.

>>578528461
>modern ISYS
I feel like this is the distinction that has to be made between Kaga IS and modern IS in terms of Fire Emblem's growth. Modern IS has always accompanied its new mechanics (Battalions, Combat Arts, Break, Pair Up, etc.) with other obtuse bullshit that everyone hates (Avatars, waifubaiting, Fire Emblem Engage, constantly recycling old characters, lore bastardizations, etc.)

>>578527995
>2-5
what about Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light??
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>>578531382
Oh so you're an Anatoliafag, that explains your retardation.
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>shitposting retards who post bait all day don't even play the games they bait about
Who could've seen that one coming?
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>>578531605
Just admit you want Fire Emblem to be a retarded school power fantasy.
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>>578531382
Was Grima in Awakening, yes or no ESLfag?
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>>578531385
>Except it isn't canon,
You work at IS? Because I'm pretty sure Kusakihara would say it's canon. Why would he put it in the game otherwise?

>>578531445
>Giving Grima actual lore isn't a retcon you dumb ass.
Yes it is. That's exactly what a retcon is.
You're up your own ass and think retcons are ONLY when something gets rewritten. No, it's also when stuff gets added, because that itself is also rewriting.
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>>578531741
Was Grima in Gaiden? Yes or no.
Fuck, was Grima an alchemical experiment in Awakening? No, he wasn't. That's a retcon. Grima didn't have that backstory before. Now he does, because it was retroactively added into the continuity.
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>>578531783
Why is it that when you faggots get cornered on your retarded takes you always resort to posting dictionary screenshots?
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>>578531382
>eshmel
>raven
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Gaiden is a retcon because Valentia isn't in FE1.
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>>578531086
>Hong Hua in Order of Mithras
>Anatolia in Bride of the Pale Raven
huh?
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>>578531968
>argue a word is wrong
>the definition of the word gets posted
>"t-the definition doesn't count!"
Fucking retard.
Prove that 1) Grima was made with alchemy in Awakening, and that it didn't come as info from a later game and 2) prove he was in Gaiden.
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>>578531961
Answer my question, ESLfag.
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>>578531968
He's a discordnigger who shitposts literally all day trying to start argument, dunno why you guys are even replying to him
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>>578532064
It technically is. It's just a retcon that nobody has issue with, so midwits pretend it isn't a retcon at all, despite it being new continuity added to an existing setting.

>>578532184
I did, you just have no answer to it, so you'll keep bumbling around and repeating the same statement like a hood rat.
It's a retcon, and unlike Kusakihara, you can't retcon that away.
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>>578531783
That's literally not a retcon. It would've been a retcon if Grima had an actual backstory and lore that Echoes later RETROACTIVELY changed. But that's not the case. Echoes didn't retcon anything retard.
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>>578532152
>>578532316
Your brain is underdeveloped and you don't understand what you're seething about. You don't even understand what 'con' in "retCON" means.

Please just go back to spamming Gulveig or whatever, you're embarrassing yourself.
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I CANT BELIEVE FE4 RETCONNED THE MARTH GAMES BY ADDING LORE TO NAGA WTF BROS
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>>578532382
>That's literally not a retcon.
You just looked at the definition of a retcon, and still said this? How much paint did your pregnant mother drink?
Lore added later in a work that isn't the original is a retcon, regardless if it infringes on other info or not. I'm sorry you can't understand this, even when seeing it defined by a dictionary.
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Chapter 2 of a novel is a retcon of Chapter 1
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>>578532524
>'con' in "retCON" means.
Continuity.
Please tell me how the info revealed in Echoes in 2017 was no retroactively added to the continuity of the character released in Awakening in 2012.
Go on. Do it.

>>578532535
>he doesn't remember
FE4 made Naga a woman. He was a guy in the intro to 3. It was indeed a retcon.
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Naga you will never be a woman
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>>578532690
>Please tell me how the info revealed in Echoes in 2017 was no retroactively added to the continuity of the character released in Awakening in 2012.
Please point out what exactly from Awakening that was explicitly established in 2012 was changed or re-established.
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I have no stake in this argument but
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>>578532969
1) retcons aren't just changes or re-establishments, as seen with the definition up there.
2) if you really want one, Grima in Awakening was set up as just a dragon. Echoes changed him to instead be an artificial being.
Imagine if the space shit regarding Sothis with the spaceships and whatnot was never implied in 3H, and FW suddenly thrust that upon Fodlan's setting. That's what happened with Grima.
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Make a new thread
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Why is it never “you have it wrong” or “you’re misinterpreting”
Why is it always “YOU HAVE NO READING COMPREHENSION” or “YOUR BRAIN ISNT DEVELOPED”
Wasn’t empathy taught in your 5th grade middle school class?
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>>578533137
This kid doesn't understand stories because his brain is fried from gacha and porn, we all know this
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>>578533282
>>578533282
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>>578533263
No need to reply to yourself, pablo.
Here, tell me where in Awakening it was ever implied that Grima wasn't a dragon in Plegia, and was instead an alchemical experiment made in Valentia.
One single line of dialogue that says this in Awakening. Just one.
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>>578533262
I thought middle school was 6th, 7th, and 8th grades
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>>578533596
Maybe idk. That’s not the important part you troon nigger faggot
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>>578533262
Because if you don't understand that later stories expand on previous stories you are fundamentally incapable of having a discussion, hence the screeching about RETCON RETCON RETCON.
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>>578533137
This was my understanding of a retcon. When writers in a later work change something about a character/story and you as the reader are supposed to 'accept and understand the change.

I don't think any new development to lore/story is considered a retcon. Are all sequels and prequels retcons inherently? I don't think so.
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>>578533494
Awakening doesn't explore Grima's origin, Echoes does.

It's not that complicated simmer down bud.
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>>578533596
Please forgive him, he flunked out of elementary school and never learned to count.
We're trying to get help for him, but he keeps insisting that "help" can only be picking people off the ground, and not also mean "to give assistance," since he doesn't know that words can mean multiple things.

>>578533749
>"expand"
>it's a change
Even in your own statement, you were wrong.
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Ah yes I remember the part of Awakening where they go into detail about Grima's origin from characters within the story that would have information that definitely happened yep.
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>>578533913
I’m not even that guy you schizo freak. Maybe you need to go back to middle school huh?!
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>>578533912
Grima's origin in Awakening is "He's a big dragon, this is the final FE villain because we expect this game to fail."
Then Echoes came in years later with a different writing team and changed what he was. Even in your own idea of what a retcon is, you are wrong. From every single angle of this topic, you're wrong.

>>578534097
Yes, it was that part where everyone kept calling Grima a dragon, but they secretly meant they all knew he was a homonculus instead. The words are synonymous in Ylisse, apparently.
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Yep definitely the game explained where he came from like FE1 explained where Medeus came from and his origin for sure, the part in Awakening where they actually explain his history definitely happened which is why I'm posting screenshots from the game where that happened yup
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>>578534464
>losing an argument this bad
Yes, FE3 content is a retcon to 1.
Yes, Echoes content is a retcon to Awakening.
No, nobody questions that new changing info was added in Echoes. Everyone knows that.
The only reason to deny this is because you're stubborn that you lost outright.
Grima was retconned. Multiple times, in fact. He was added into Gaiden with Echoes, and was also changed in Awakening through info in Echoes.
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A sequel is not a retcon, it is a forward step in a continuous story. "Chapter 2" of a novel that introduces or explores lines from "Chapter 1" is not a retcon within the holistic story.

Echoes expanding on his origin. This part of his origin was not established in Awakening.

Please learn what a 'story' is before shitting your pants in public or at least do it in your gacha discord.
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>>578535036
>A sequel is not a retcon
The info added in the sequel that changes context of the first work is a retcon.
>Echoes expanding on his origin.
It retroactively changes the continuity. It's a retcon, you just accept it.
>Please learn what a 'story'
A story is linear. If I drew the story as a line with every entry, then any new stuff added later would require a curved arrow from where the newest work is back to where the change is, and going "this part here now says Grima is a science project," which is a retcon.
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Do we have some type of figure on how much the player spend on the srpg aspect of FW?
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Echoes is a prequel.

Grima's origin is not established in Awakening.
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>character exists in a game, has absolutely 0 lore or story tied to them
>a story set earlier explains their origins that contradicts nothing
>"RETCON RETCON"

Why is this retard so desperate to claim Grima in Echoes is a retcon?
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>>578535543
Grima's origin is retroactively added to the continuity later.
It is a retcon, you just don't mind it.
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>>578535637
It's because people who post here are starved of interaction so will force as much interaction as they can even if they look retarded.
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Grima's origin is not established in Awakening.

You cannot retcon something that doesn't exist, I'm glad you agree.
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>>578536110
A retcon isn't always a change that overwrites, it can also just be an addition.
"Grima's backstory itself in a later work" is a retcon.
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Grima's origin is --> NOT <-- established in Awakening.

You cannot retcon an origin that doesn't exist.
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>>578536580
See >>578531783
Retcons aren't just changes, they're also additions. What gets "changed" is the overall continuity, which the Echoes dlc did do.
Thanks for losing.
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Okay so acknowledge that Grima's origin is not established within Awakening.

So then it can't be changed or altered. And anythiing that is about is origin is new information and doesn't affect anything revolving to his origin and lack of that exploration in other works, by nature of it not existing.

Therefore it's not a retcon (ret: retroactive, con: continuity) as you cannot have continuity with an origin that doesn't exist before the 'retcon'.

Thanks for playing but unless you have something new to add you can stop repeating yourself.
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>>578537142
>And anythiing that is about is origin is new information and doesn't affect anything revolving to his origin and lack of that exploration in other works
The addition affects the larger continuity, since it retcons both Echoes and Awakening.
Thanks for playing.
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You agreed that his origin isn't established.

Therefore exploring his origin is not RETROACTIVE or CONTINUOUS.
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>>578537610
>retroactively add a story to the continuity
>not a retcon
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Here, let's give an example of what an "addition" retcon like this does.
Give me a reason why Grima Robin in Awakening never went back to Valentia to go to the laboratory to fix himself when he broke after meeting regular Robin.
There is none. It's now a plothole.
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I'm happy you agree that because Grima's origin isn't established, his origin can't be changed when it IS established.

Thanks for being reasonable about facts and only crying about semantics of the word 'retcon'. You lost.



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