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Orin Edition

>News:
Patch 8: https://baldursgate3.game/news/the-final-patch-new-subclasses-photo-mode-and-cross-play_138
Patch 7: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-7-now-live_121
Patch 6: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-6-now-live_108
Patch 5: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-5-now-live_99

>Wiki:
https://bg3.wiki

>Mods:
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/

>FAQ:
>Q: How often should I long rest?
>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.
>Q: Can I recruit Minthara without going down the evil path?
>A: If you knock her out in Act 1, yes. You do miss out on the sex scene, but otherwise the romance remains the same.
>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?
>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.
>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?
>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where, if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.
>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?
>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC 21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.
>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?
>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of low rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.

>Polls:
>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6
>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ
>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA
>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnY

OP pasta: https://rentry.org/bggpasta

Previous thread: >>577883589
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>>578466723
she can be fixed with a beheading
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>>578466785
Right, and it wasn't for a while even after release. My first playthrough wasn't honor mode because I played EA and then at launch. Honor mode was patch 5 or so, which was like several months later.

But once you do honor mode you don't go back. The lair actions are genuinely fun and larian correctly changed enemy behaviors for their hard difficulty mode, rather than just inflating stats like most games, including owlcat. I love owlcat but one thing that larian blows them out of the water on is that owlcat is super guilty of just inflating stats and saves and ac for their hard modes, while larian actually changes what items are in enemy inventories, enemy aggression patterns, and the entire lair actions system.
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First for Minsc and Astarion.
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>>578466723
I wouldn't say a single word to Orin. I would listen to what she has to say. And that's what no one did.
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>>578467420
>you will be a sacrifice for the murder lord yadda yadda yadda
what then?
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>>578466723
Will she gargle my bhaals?
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I just wanted to say that I love my wife.
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>>578463880
this shit is actually some of the worst game design I've ever seen. there's absolutely no reason to do this quest and there're no consequences for not doing it. so it might aswell not exist and its only purpose is to trap noobs.
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>>578466701
The game isn't designed for honour mode. Might as well exploit everything you can.
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>>578469756
Dude, what the fuck?
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>had no chance to romance any of the female companions
>had to settle for Mizora and the dark elf girl
Damn, and every single male companion did hit on me too. Does my race or class have any influence on this?
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Gorion's Ward once said:
I am excited for Divinity
Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms is an official Dungeons & Dragons tm game.
Minthara is canonically 150 years old, pansexual and neutral evil
I collect barrels and throw them at every boss including Minthara
Minthara did not watch Viconia leave in her childhood
Minthara is the throat goat
I respect all women but Minthara
If you romance Minthara you are a horrible person
If you romance Astarion you are a great person
I ascended Astarion
I romanced ascended Astarion
I enjoy all the male companions
I play with LOTS of mods on
I love editing the character's appearances with mods
I fucked Halsin and Shadowheart at the same time and loved it
Shadowheart is right not to use her birthname
Shadowheart is not chaotic evil
Shar is neutral evil
Gale was groomed by Mystra
I play sorcerer
I camp cast
You cannot find Mayrina's brothers' corpses
Karlach is okay for using soul coins
Wyll is a real character
I sympathized with Ketheric
I play male Tav
I love using summons
I love dragonborns, halflings, gnomes and dwarves
Alfira and many other npcs would make good companions
The only sluts in the party are Minthara and Halsin
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>>578473235
Gorion’s Ward can eat a bag of dicks.
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his name is abdel adrian btw
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>>578473235
gorion's ward cooked
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I have recently played a little of bg2 (just the intro + circus tent,) and I really like Minsc. I never got him in bg3 because I didn't know what the fuck to do, so I would like to do another playthrough to do such (as soon as I can stop spamming simulacrum on PoE for money. I have a character to do it and a lot of sim frags. help)

frog for your troubles
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https://youtu.be/V7jfuBykXUQ?si=oX9o6g7VfX2hVCAQ
Soon. Real soon.
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Divinity in 2 days
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>>578477463
you need jaheira in your party while going through the sewers
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>>578478243
Many are saying this
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>>578478243
I reserve my excitement until we have more than one edgy shock-bait trailer with nothing to do with the actual game.
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>>578478424
they're following bg3's marketing campaign to a T, first we get a high quality CGI trailer to introduce the setting and what the game's about while shocking people
>bg3's was about a guy turning into an illithid and puking his teeth out
>divinity's about evil cultists being evil
next, 6 to 9 months later we get a gameplay reveal showing combat and some origin companions and some of the new features you'll be able to play with, they'll also announce a panel from hell to stream a quick early game playthrough, they'll obviously reveal the date of the early access during the game awards since bg3 won GOTY and swen and Geoff are friends and stuff

oh and obviously expect something as stupid as the bear sex scene in bg3 to be revealed around divinity's last month before release because larian's gonna larian
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>>578469756
Name three things you like about her that are non-physical.

>>578477681
>>578478243
>>578478424
>>578479174
>>>/vg/crpgg
Stop spamming your worthless off-topic garbage here.
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>>578469756
I also love my wife
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>>578478267
thank you, frog twins!
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>>578480504
cute
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Shadowheart - The DM's girlfriend. Given the mandatory special McGuffin the party needs to carry around right off the bat. Her character's backstory is tightly weaved and given focus throughout the main plot.

Wyll - The Absentee. Player that frequently has to miss out on games due to other commitments. Missed out on Session 1 and had to be introduced to the party later. His lack of time roleplaying the character makes him unable to portray him with much depth beyond the initial concept.

Gale - The RP Midwit. Delved into one aspect of the setting's lore for his new character in a fresh campaign. Thinks of himself as a highly qualified and experienced roleplayer which leads him to aggrandize his character's backstory, but ultimately he still falls into a lot of the new player traps.

Astarion - The Borderline "That Guy". Decided to roll a purely Evil aligned character in a mostly neutral and good party. Pouts and drags his feet on adventures because "my character wouldn't care" and immediately opts for murder as the primary solution to most problems. Tolerated because of the player's IRL charisma.

Karlach - The Pop Culture Player. Got into the game by being exposed to it via pop culture avenues. Eager but still largely inexperienced with RP, so while energetic their roleplay is marred by anachronisms and overuse of profanity.

Lae'zel - The Veteran. Rolls a simple class to help round out the party, but affords himself to play a more exotic race. Crafts what appears to be a fairly generic representation of his chosen race into a nuanced character, and can apply playful friction at times where the course of the adventure is at odds with his character's motivations without grinding everything to a halt.

Halsin - The NPC Noob. Brand new player that the DM gave an NPC to play as and roll dice for to slowly learn the ropes. Typical of a new player, his roleplay boils down to "lol what can I roll to try to fuck it?". Makes people at the table uncomfortable.
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>>578480727
you forgot minthara
Minthara: Guy who shows up because one of his friends is a regular. Spends most of his time on his phone but he brought snacks once so people are fine with him scrolling through tiktok
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>>578480727
Surprisingly accurate. Accurate enough that I wonder if at least half of these were intentional on the part of the devs.
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>>578480969
Withers: The DM's roommate that occasionally stops when walking by to watch for a few minutes and make a couple quips.
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I still have never played with minsc & halsin to this day
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>>578480727
hello toadcel
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>>578480727
I'm the DM
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da hell are they doin
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>>578486413
you respecced them, didnt you?
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>>578480727
swap astarion and toad and it's pretty accurate
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>>578486546
Nope. Is that what usually causes that glitch?
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>>578487879
For me, yeah
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>page 10
tut tut tut I won't allow /bgg/ to die just yet
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>>578494301
Sending this teeth-ling back to page 10
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what we wanted
>alfira
>helia
>rolan
>zevlor
what we got
>minthara
>halsin
>jaheira
>minsc

larian...
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>>578500165
contender for worst bg3 character in the game
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>>578500165
hag sex with viconia
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>>578479859
your retard mother is worthless
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>>578500165
BG2fags really believe she was a good person and now they are shitting on Larian LMAO

Viconia was NEVER a good person.
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>>578511796
Viconia is a tragic character. She had a choice to join Minsc and Jaheira, but she chose Shar and Shar erased all her good memories and personality. Minsc didn't forgive her, Jaheira still cares about her, but she's still holding a grudge against Viconia.
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>>578511796
no but she is out of character in bg3
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>>578512506
Of course it's not Viconia, she was brainwashed by Shar's mirror. It's another Viconia.
But Viconia is in this situation because SHE CHOSE this path.
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>>578512504
>>578512656
BG2fags don't accept her fate because they romanced her and they really think they fixed her LMAO
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>>578512506
>Viconia eyes in BG2 = red
>Viconia eyes in BG3 = purple, same collor of Shadowheart eyes after killing her parents

It's clearly not Viconia, duh
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>>578515239
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>>578512656
>>578512814
even david gaider said her writing was shit, man. he wrote viconia. stop samefagging and coping
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>>578515417
Those purple eyes are nice
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>>578515239
Purple eyes are good, actually.
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https://www.thegamer.com/astarion-book-early-copies-gur-racism-removed/

Apparently WOTC removed the Gur from Astarion's backstory because they're gypsy coded

lol
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>>578528427
usa can't go up in flames soon enough
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>>578516428
Bro wrote iron bull nobody cares about what he has to say
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>>578530048
>the opinion of viconia's bg1/2 writer doesn't matter
>but some random retard's does
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>>578530249
Yeah it literally doesn't matter, he's been making slop these last two decades he's irrelevant
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>>578528427
Meanwhile
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>>578530417
and here you are defending john corcoran's ridiculously shit writing for viconia. gaider knows his own character you imbecile
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>>578528427
>astarion the evil vampires hating gurs is bad
>astarion fucking literal pigs is fine
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>>578530881
>astarion fucking literal pigs is fine
That really happened?
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>>578530585
Too bad Gaider doesn't know how to write anymore.
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>>578528427
No wonder Wyll is so shit.
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the guy who seethes about viconia's writing all the time has never played bg1 or 2
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>>578531054
in the novel? yup here's what happens
>astarion is turned into a vampire and drinks the blood of attractive people while cazador watches(this is a retcon btw)
>he feels powerful and untouchable typical vampire stuff
>cazador orders him to undress
>astarion doesn't mind and he's kinda enjoying it
>he starts fucking all these people
>cazador smirks before undoing his illusion revealing that astarion was fucking pigs
>astarion's not sure if it's an illusion or not
>''He was almost sure he didn't just fuck pigs'' is an actual line in the novel
>>578512814
if you're fine with bg3 viconia you have to be fine with bg4 gale being mystra's chosen and grooming one of his proteges
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>>578531424
Do you seriously think only one person got upset about Viconia's writing?
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>>578531424
if nobody played bg2 why did they bring back viconia?
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>>578531964
>if you're fine with bg3 viconia you have to be fine with bg4 gale being mystra's chosen and grooming one of his proteges
nah you'd have to be fine with shart being shar's chosen and grooming her pupils. also she hates animals now
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>>578532147
you retard. the game is called bg3
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>>578532529
and? how about they bring back bg2 weapons instead of ruining its characters
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>>578532307
I like both Sharts(Selunite Shart a lot more though)
>also she hates animals now
okay, now you've gone too far
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>>578532529
you retard. the game is called baldur's gate 3 not bg3
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>>578532706
>back bg2 weapons
https://baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/Flail_of_Ages
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Flail_of_Ages

they did you retard. I know you didn't play bg2 you just want to cry about John for the 130000th time
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>>578533065
i called viconia's bg3 writing shit. you're arguing with another anon right now you retard
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quit defending john corcoran he should be dealt with, he sullied larian's games enough as it is with his dogshit writing, bg3 viconia is one of the worst characters in the game and if you're fine with her writing and played the boomer games nobody played you're a massive cuck that deserves the dogshit writing in act 3 have some standards geez
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>>578533065
>>578532529
>>578531424
This is what 70 IQ looks like
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>>578533185
>and? how about they bring back bg2 weapons instead of ruining its characters
Said it yourself
and I am calling you a retard because you haven't touched the old games and want to cry about John

https://bg3.wiki/wiki/List_of_references_to_previous_Baldur%27s_Gate_games
The wiki has a whole page for past references. Let me guess you didn't know any of this

>>578533297
>>578533361
.... yes you zoomies are like this
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>>578533421
i didn't make that comment. i played bg2. how can you pretend you like bg2 if you keep calling gaider shit?
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orin reference john corcoran in front of jaheira's house in act 3 with all the NPCs tied to her(him)
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>>578533601
I replied to this you retard >>578532706
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You know you can just move on and consider the game non canon. You know, exactly the same thing fans of KotOR did with SWTOR, or Mass Effect fans did with 3 or Baldur's Gate fans did with the novel.
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Xan my GOAT in bg1 has a bunch of references however most of them are shit. One is there's a erotic book about him fucking his magical sword, another is a hireling is apparently his son.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKfzvHPhzOU
Glad they made it canon that's he's in love with your Bhaalspawn though kekek
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So there's a spammer dedicated to defending Viconia's BG3 appearance, then he calls Viconia's original writer a hack. THEN he says anyone that disagrees with him is a zoomer who hasn't played BG2?

The fuck is going on?
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>>578533903
that's the issue there's some bg2 in my BG3 I don't want that
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>>578534219
Did you play bg2?
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>>578534228
Most of Jaheria's characterization comes from BG2, why is this general the so retarded?
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>>578534393
Yes. You obviously haven't if you think Viconia's character in BG3 is in any way acceptable.
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>>578534576
and?I don't mind getting rid of jaheira too if I can remove all the bg1 & 2 characters in the game including emperor, I was always against her being a companion
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>>578534703
Minor compared to how they brought back Sarevok, making that all worthless.
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>>578528427
I can't believe this shit, man.
This is why Wyll is so mediocre and everyone is an asshole with Minsc and Gale, because both are white men.

Can you imagine Minsc or Gale saying misogynist jokes about Minthara? Nope.
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david gaider complimented jaheira's writing. he said minsc was "just there". viconia was shit. sarevok was bad
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>>578503169
cute dance!
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>>578535037
david cooked, I saw him implying that astarion was really inspired by fenris from dragon age and a lot of people weren't happy with the comparison
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BG3 didn't even make Viconia stay a Sharran, that was WOTC. Same with Sarevok reverting. But nooo John is Hitler because he ruined my Shadowbaby
>>578535037
Okay did David Gayder write in BG3, why do you keep bringing him up. You fags are the same types who say anything outside of BG3 is not canon
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>>578535037
Why is this controversial, exactly? He's spot on
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that guy gotta be john there's no other way someone would defend that slop so hard
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>>578528427
Wokes ruin everything.
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>>578535209
>But nooo John is Hitler because he ruined my Shadowbaby
what the fuck are you on about. i like shart but viconia's writing is garbage. i think you think that i'm some thread personality you hate or something. i play shart origins all the time
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>>578535478
Your hatred of John is due to Shadowheart. Stop lying and keep coping. And you did NOT play BG2.
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>>578535615
i don't hate john. his writing for viconia is ass tho. i did play bg2. stop derailing. we're not talking about shart
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>>578535751
Uh huh tell me what happens if you put Viconia in a party with Keldorn
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>why would people possibly hate john corcoran
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>>578536089
i know they fight. i played bg2 about 15 years go
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>>578536191
>about 15 years go
doesnt count
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>Minsc is "just there"
Minsc is literally the most relevant Act 3 character besides Gortash IMO
Eveyone is scared of the "Stone Lord" and Orin manipulated Minsc to control the power of the city keeping Nine Fingers and even Cazador under control, with the support of Gortash.

Act 3 is just rushed as fuck.
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>>578536157
why did this retard stay in the cloister despite everyone in it being wiped out?
>"I'm not brave enough to maybe some day"
nigga everyone's dead, just walk out lol
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>>578535945
sleebyfrog
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ok ok everybody chill, the bg3 devs will be at gamescom
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>>578536426
>be Minsc
>get tortured by Irenicus
>Dynaheir is killed in front him
>become stone for 100 years
>lost all friends and companions
>captured and tortured again by Orin
>forced to kill many people
>everyone wants to kill him
But playing BG3 he is just "le idiot". Flanderization is real.
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>>578537662
source, we're finally getting the bg3 definitive edition I can smell it
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>>578536426
i think he meant he wasn't impressed by minsc in bg3, but he didn't hate the writing unlike with viconia.
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>>578537785
What did you expect after what they did to Viconia????
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>>578536157
Disliking a writer is normal. Constantly bringing up their full name is weird. Wishing they would be beaten to death (>>578480157) or "dealt with" (>>578533297) is mental illness. This is a general for human posters, not subhuman swine and subhuman parasites that wish harm upon the voice actors or writers.

>>578537662
>>578537871
Stop spamming worthless off-topic garbage, parasite.
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>>578537785
They only did a great job with Jaheira
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>>578538361
Did they? Jaheira wanting to be immortal is literally spitting into Khalid's grave. Irenicus wanted to be immortal too.
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>>578536157
Unrelated, but Tieflings have a similar lifespan to humans. Shadowheart is around 50 in game, yet Nocturne doesn't look much older than maybe 30. Also, on her teacher's grave, the note says he would've turned 48 (or somewhere in his late forties) on that day. Shadowheart says she was sent to learn the basics of stealth from that man as a young initiate.

Are these continuity errors? Was Shadowheart aged up very late in development but they didn't change conflicting content? If I had to guess, they aged her up to make the dementia plot with the mom.
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Which class has the most reactivity dialogue-wise? I feel like Druid has to be a strong candidate just from act 1 alone
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>>578538937
bard sorcerer barbarian & cleric I think
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>>578480727
Funny, and pretty accurate. I'll nitpick along, as is my nature. Shadowheart's player falls back on the "I have amnesia" excuse when convenient. Still is one of the better roleplayers at the table and deserves props for that. Is untouchable because every party needs a Cleric casting Bless. The non-character's player is just not that into the whole thing. Gets bored of his own folk hero concept and starts resenting the DM for overshadowing him whenever Mizora appears. Gale's player is as insufferable as his character, but he holds the DM accountable - especially when it comes to mechanics and bookkeeping - which earns him begrudging respect. Embraces the nerdy know-it-all role, which often leads to amusing interactions with the other players. Astarion's player constantly tries to hog the spotlight and get the best items for himself, even though most of them aren't even useful to a Rogue. Is a convenient pressure valve when players are tired of theatrics and agree to murderhobo their way through. Karlach's player is just fun and doesn't take five minutes to describe her turn, unlike Gale's player. Is a welcome foil to everyone's brooding or overly serious character. Lae'zel's player roleplays her effectively and without nonsense, and is allowed to mock the often absurd customs or expectations of Faerûn. Nearly gets the party wiped every time they have to fight githyanki. Minthara is the DM's backup character after the non-character's player dropped out. Fair, but also suspiciously more powerful than the others by virtue of having special tadpole powers.
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>>578538189
another general off topic scum
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>>578538884
the devs don't care about the lifespan of races, viconia looks reaaally old despite being an elf and being young in bg1 and emperor's story makes literally no sense when you remember that mindflayers dont push over 200 years
>>578539367
kek
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>>578539271
Barbarian?
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>>578539562
yup
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>>578539870
>get an entire area of the game dedicated to your god
>come up last
Lathanderbros... I don't feel like waking up this morning...
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Shadowheart kneels down to worship Viconia's feet
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>>578540430
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did shadowheart kneel to kiss the gnome?
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>>578540621
>tfw no gnome to kiss in the party
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>resist durge provides a more narratively satisfying and roleplay heavy experience than tav or evil durge
>durge can wake up as an explicitly good class like an oath of devotion paladin or a cleric who worships a lawful good god
>in his origin intro he literally says "I know nothing besides this: I must resist the Dark Urge, lest it consume my mind."
>retards still collectively agreed that murderhobo durge is the canon durge
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>>578542160
there's no canon ending, your favorite playthrough's the canon one
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>>578542447
until WOTC put out some material and choose the absolute worst canon possible for all outcomes and characters
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The canon ending of BG3 is Selunite Shadowheart x Redeemed Dark Urge marriage with world saved
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Divinity divinity divinity, say it 3 times and mizora will appear
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>>578540621
Shadowheart would never racemix with an ugly gnome
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>>578540430
other way around, bub
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Durge deserves the rope and a flaying to serve a purpose as handbags for noble women
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>>578544609
>the half elf half human character would never hook up with someone that doesnt look human
she literally has unique romance dialogues for half orcs where they bond over being mixed, laezel got unique romance dialogues with orcs too and instantly submits in act 1 with orc tavs, shart can also marry origin wyll or maybe origin shart can marry companion wyll i forgot
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>>578545730
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half-orcs are rape babies
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shaddap
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So sayeth the wise Alaundo.
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>>578551630
you think that's bad? here's bane according to wotc
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>>578551630
ayo why dis nigga pretending to be a wizard
>>578552037
gay ass nigga
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what the fuck
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>>578553664
i really hate what americans do to foreign media (yes bg3 is european despite the ip beloning to wotc)
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>>578553664
I fucking hate companies that treat ips that so many people love as cashcows with no care about how they milk it.
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>>578553664
In other words, they simply handed it to some author who did for a paycheck or has some severe issues.
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>>578553664
>take him however you want he's not real lol who cares
>yeah uhh I forgot about my intentions when writing him it's been over half a year ago you know
imagine saying that as a writer holy shit
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>>578553664
i really dont care about this but defending dogshit characterization in an official novel as "erm its homebrew" might be those weirdest cope ive ever fucking seen
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>>578553664
>caring about notgame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5mEWVbQ_T8
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>>578555854
>astarion getting a flashback of all the pigs he had to fuck
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>>578553664
Why are women like that?
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>shown fucking bears in the final panel from hell
>forced to fuck pigs in the novel
the hbo show could do the funniest thing
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>>578553664
astarion fans are going to murder her
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Is it really that hard to ask Gemini or Chat GPT before writting any bullshit:

"Astarion would do that shit???"
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>>578556529
or you know...she could have played the fucking game
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>>578556616
There are no excuses for inconsistency anymore on mainstrean media anyway. We have fucking Gemini, ChatGPT, Copilot, etc. They are excellent in find inconsistency in character behaviors
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>>578556529
Lmao. Grok would Astarion punch a child?
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>>578557045
AI >>>>>> Writters that didn't play the games.
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Alright guys, i won't be posting Shadowheart at random for 3 weeks.
Keep the thread off page 9 and don't argue over stupid shit.
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>>578556919
no they're not, they literally use facebook & reddit posts as resources they're wrong all the time they're not actually thinking they're making conjectures and output the most likely thing to say
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>>578557516
Explain Gemini being better than Larian writters lmao >>578557424
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>>578557509
>Keep the thread off page 9
don't worry about that we'll have plenty to talk about after gamescom
>and don't argue over stupid shit.
no promises
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>>578553664
I am not fan of Astarion but I always get mad when some fandom is treated like shit like that.
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>>578555587
No one actually cares about that novel. It's all performative outrage from the parasite and its ilk, intended to shit up the thread by crying about WotC, soulless corporations, and mediocre freelance authors, as if any of that had anything to do with the game. It's a tried-and-true tactic for making threads worse and worse every week. Random twitter exchanges are off-topic garbage, by the way.

>>578557509
>don't argue over stupid shit.
Right. Not likely to happen when the parasite and its enablers are here.
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>>578553664
this is why writers should never interact with people on social media. they inevitably put their foot in their mouth and say something stupid cause they're mad
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>>578558854
The franchise is still treating the fandom like shit. The fandom are paying for a product, they can complain if the product is defective.
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>>578558854
yes a lot of people do care about astarion and the novel. shut the fuck up
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>>578555587
>dude! why do you care about how they treat BG3 related content? It's not like it will reflect the future of the games going forward or anything!!
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you're a gay retard if you even care about notgame
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>>578558854
You're a retard and based at the same time. Based retard
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>>578558854
>No one actually cares about that novel
Just like no one actually cared about the BG1 novel back in the day OH WAIT
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>>578559268
I bet you are one that guys that accepts damaged Amazon packages lmao
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>Shovel gets killed
>Leaves behind 214 gold
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>>578559678
she's been stealing from you
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>>578559268
you're just mad because laezel doesn't get merch you get to complain about
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>>578559268
>if you even care about notgame
The Stone Lord is literally notgame content.
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they could come out with million notgame things but guess what who cares? its out of the original writer's intention so it don't real simple as
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>>578559678
You used her to interact with something that gives gold, so it was stored in her invisible inventory until she died which dropped it
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>>578560042
Personally, it's times like these when I am really, really glad she's not super popular.
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astarion is fucking literal pigs in his bg3 novel of course bg3 fans will talk about it you guys are so silly
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>>578560251
who?
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>>578559268
Holy cope. There is a canon ending where Astation origin and Minsc team up to fight beasts. If they release a book of this ending I would read any day.
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>origin
whoops that's an auto lose phrase!
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>>578560252
>its out of the original writer's intention
Do you even care about the writer's intention either? Lae'zel's writer intended for Lae'zel to end up with Shadowheart if both are unromanced, but it got scrapped due to development time constraints
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>>578560671
>we gotta respect the writer's intention unless we're talking about the origin they literally wrote
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Shadowheart is a farmer now
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>frogchads the only sane people left
lol
if it wasn't implemented then it don't real dummy
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>>578561008
it's kinda stupid to refer to yourself in the third person when your english's still broken blud
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>>578560760
This can't be real
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>Githyanki
>very ugly race
>ugliest men of the game by a large margin

Holy shit. Even a book of Jord, the orc son of Jaheira or a book about Barcus would be more interesting.
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>>578561771
it is, laezel's writer talked about it, they really wanted companions to romance each other when neither is courted by the player but they ran out of time
pic unrelated
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>>578561771
see>>578561008
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Which of the Gods is the sexiest and why is it Shar?
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>>578562098
Who would Shadowheart romance?
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>>578562358
Shar needs to be worshipped via tongue baths at least every tenday
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>>578562392
both kevin & john ship her with laezel
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>>578561771
it is real. pretty sure there was an interview a while back where he went more in depth about it
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>>578561008
durgegods?
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>>578562668
>the gale/minthara OTP could have been canon if the game weren't rushed
hmmm
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>>578559057
Works of art are not "products," and you should try to be something more than an unthinking consumer. No one is forcing you to care about a mediocre "tie-in" cash-grab novel. In fact, not caring about it is the easiest thing in the world. It's presumably what you were doing until the parasite brought twitter outrage here to shit up the thread and you suddenly started caring about how the "product" is now being mishandled. Are you human or an automaton? Please get upset about this thing until you are told to get upset about HBO casting a non-white actress as Shadowheart.

>>578559484
Yes, you absolute buffoon. BG1 and BG2 remain beloved classics and the fans of these games still refer to the protagonist as CHARNAME. Not "Abdel Adrian." No one ever cared about these "canonical" novels that even the author admitted were rushed, poorly written, and not worth anyone's time. Most players are not even aware that the novels exist. They have been effectively memory-holed. But that was before social media and the need for every half-wit to weigh in on all-important matters such as poorly written fanfiction.
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>>578562668
>shadowzel
he even knows the fandom ship name kek. what are the odds this dude's secretly written fanfiction for them? quick someone search a03 for shart lae'zel fics with an uncannily in-character lae'zel
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3 days left before gamescom let's get this bread /bgg/
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>>578557424
She tried to stop her brother being sacrificed to Lolth and what good did that do? Her whole family was killed by the upstart Do'Urdens who did have Lolth's favor a short while later. Being devoted to shar and having some literally who surface elf brainwashed is nothing to Viconia as written in BG2, do not trust AI sloppa.
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>>578563765
DIVINITY
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>>578539870
how do I read this graph? what's the difference between alignment and diety?
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>>578563914
Wow she sounds like a good woman.
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>>578564172
YES!
>>578564259
clerics got the evil god worshiped, neutral god worshiped and good god worshiped in the game, a cleric of shar & lolth will share a lot of ''unique'' dialogues because they both worship very evil deities, the yellow dialogues are 100% unique lines that you only get by worshiping that deity
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>>578564509
evil god worshiped, neutral god worshiped and good god worshiped tags in the game*
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>>578542160
how can he wake up as a good paladin or cleric if he never was one?
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>>578563914
Viconia refused to sacrifice an infant for Lolth. Lolth got pissed off and Viconia's mother tried to sacrifice Viconia to regain her favor. Viconia's brother killed their mother to save her. He got turned into a drider as punishment

Viconia also had four different husbands, three of whom she killed for fun. There's some good hidden in her, but there's some bad too
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>>578565127
because he was one
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>>578565339
Why do they do it?
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>>578565339
cute frogs!
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tell me a frog fun fact
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>>578545762
Kek
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>>578566095
istiks had it coming
>>578566608
lae'zel hates fruits like astarion
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>>578553664
I can't wait for the Shadowheart novel to bring an extra layer of hilarity to this general
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>>578567102
i'm gonna flip
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I blame john corcoran and his poor writing skills
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>>578565254
>some bad
Try a whole lot of bad.
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>>578567836
always blame an American
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I am eagerly awaiting for the next characters John writes to cuck the player. The meltdowns will be hilarious.
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>>578568221

this general is so weird
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LET ME SEE INSIDE
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>>578568221
you'll be waiting a damn long time since he's not writing a companion in divinity
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>>578570184
cute frog
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>>578570198
they're going all in on the polyshit, time constraints are the only reason there isn't more of it in BG3.
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>>578568221
I don't think you guys understand that the weird poly shit was supposed to be for all the companions and that astarion & shadowheart were chosen to be turned into massive poly whores because they're the most popular romance
>"So, Liselle, she’s the Githyanki. And Githyanki don’t really do monogamy," Smith told VG247.
>"So if you sleep with Liselle one night at camp, the next night you might well just find her sleeping with somebody else. And she’s going to be like, ‘oh, that was a bit of fun, wasn’t it? How are you doing?’ And you’re just like, ‘oh!’ Heartbroken!"
>Adam Smith,2019, bg3's lead writer& minthara's writer
fun fact:this is why laezel is the least popular female romance in the /bgg/ poll

now guess who's divinity's lead writer lol
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who the frog is liselle
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Divinity be like
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>>578570767
don't worry about it kitten
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>>578567836
Don't use the n-word here. It's not acceptable.

>>578563765
>>578564172
>>578568221
>>578570417
>>578570612
>>578570886
Worthless off-topic garbage. Parasites and shitposters. Fuck off.
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>>578570995
nagger
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>>578568221
it will be your waifu again
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>>578570995
quit crying
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>>578539870
You can play as cleric of Vlaakith?
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>>578570995
Stop being a nigger.
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people wanted karlach to be poly not ugly ass halsin
>>578571334
Yes!
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>>578570612
Okay that's cool and all but Divinity won't have any of that because they clearly learned their lesson from Early Access and the overwhelmingly bad reception this shit gets from players.
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>>578570924
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>>578571334
It doesn’t really make sense, but yes.
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>want the unique boat fight with greymon
>cant attack greymon outright because its not what my character would do
>keep passing the speech checks
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>>578571334
It's kind of weird you can do that since Vlaakith isn't a god (she only becomes one in the bad ending of the big Gith adventure Lich Queen's Beloved) and neither are there any NPC gith clerics.
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>>578571459
oh baby they'll try to fix their wrongs by giving more poly options and more romance scenes if anything, people raised a stink after the halsingate in act 3 but larian doubled down by:
>adding moans to the fade to black
>and a post orgy shot with everybody naked
>adding a unique dialogue line if you romance both shart & halsin and adopt the owlbear cub
>you can kiss both astarion & halsin in the epilogue if you romance them both
it'll be just as cringe as you think and it's not even the first time people cry about getting cucked in a larian game(pic related), larian doubled down with bg3 and they'll quadruple down in divinity because they want to offer unique romances are weird porn addicts that shouldn't be trusted near children i m o
>>578571981
I know? I'm literally quoting him what
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>>578570995
spam
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>>578570995
dumb retard
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I started my first durge run. Drow and playing smart-evil mostly. But so far all the "evil" things i did was killing the 2 retard tieflings who drew a sword on me the moment they saw me, plus kicking a squirrel.

Besides that is basic Tav run of helping and saving literally everyone. Sazza might shake things up a bit, maybe? Other than that i plan to justify raiding the grove by talking to h*lsin, learn that he cant do shit and then join Minthy to have a better chance at survival i guess.
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polyfags need to jump off a cliff
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>>578572202
>adding a unique dialogue line if you romance both shart & halsin and adopt the owlbear cub
I took a peek at the epilogue files and there's no unique dialogue for this
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>>578571385
Creatures incapable of shame usually do have a good time. Your kind is cancer. Worse than a bot spamming porn or gore, because at least that gets taken care of.

>>578572323
No, but the parasite's continued speculation about Larian's Next Game clearly is.
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>>578572396
can you imagine how cringe it must be to write your character romancing your coworker's character and make them smooch the player? And that's without mentioning the mocap...it's just stupid but that's how belgium rolls I guess
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>>578572202
They threatened with polyshit in the EA, then immediately caved to pressure and cancelled the whole thing and half heartedly made Shart and Astarion be okay with also including Halsin (which, memes aside, most people who romanced either don't even know exists as option just from playing the game).
They may well threaten polyshit again with Divinity, and will cave all the same and at best sacrifice one of the companions to it again.
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>>578560609
>There is a canon ending where Astation origin and Minsc team up to fight beasts

Really? Just imagine the butthurt if HBO/WOTC turn Astarion and Minsc into a gay couple Supernatural tier
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>larian with infinite money
spooky
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>>578572714
Glad to have made your day.
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I remember gale's VA telling the interviewer that mocapping the romance scenes were the cringiest part of playing him and that whenever they were asked to redo the scenes he'd apologize to the other actor
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>>578572396
Not to worry; they tend to self-destruct in spectacular fashion.
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You led polychads here? Where is the dev?
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>>578571459
>>578572860
Who cares what Larian may or may not do in the future? Can you stop enabling a parasite and take your off-topic discussion to /crpgg/, where it belongs? Better yet, feel free to create your own Larian general, where you'll be able to share Larian-related tweets, your hopes and dreams, and anything else you want all day long. Fuck off.
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>>578573546
>Where is the dev?
they're cooking
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>>578573749
Uh oh, he’s having a melty!
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bg3 pairings if they allowed companions to romance each other
shadowheart:laezel or karlach, minthara or gale if she's evil
astarion:wyll or karlach
wyll:karlach or astarion
gale:laezel or minthara
laezel: shadowheart or gale
karlach:shadowheart or wyll
minthara:gale
halsin:nobody he stinks
jaheira:idk
minsc:nobody
i feel like two possible options is perfect for divinity if you kill one of the origin for X or Y reason and that's what I would have wanted for bg3
gale/minthara is obviously the OTP
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>>578574329
i think astarion would go after gale
gale would go after minthara or shart
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>>578574329
Shadow’zel is peak.
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>>578574564
>i think astarion would go after gale
oh definitely but I dont see gale ever falling for him, I like gale/laezel because he's clearly interested in her culture
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>>578574329
Astarion: Minsc
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>>578574673
>>578574850
shit shit shit
you shipfags need to think about something else
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>>578575113
Oh? Is there something else you’d like to talk about? The floor is yours.
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>>578574673
>>578574850
>Shadow'zel
I can see it happening
>Astarion Minsc
meme tier
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>>578575113
bg3 has literally hours of voiced romances even larian ships characters
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>>578575410
just because it's in the game doesn't mean it's good
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>>578575364
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In my honest opinion unromanced Gale would either reunite with Mystra or discard his mortal skin and become a new deity.
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>>578575251
Let's talk about Astarion's problematic racism, so that the parasite can dig another worthless tweet and cry about how the upcoming novel "ruins" a character it doesn't give a shit about. Let's talk about Shadowheart, so that the parasite can once again wish her writer were killed. Let's talk about the sexuality of the companions, so that your kind can chime in and remind us that everyone is "playersexual," as if that's insightful. Let's talk about the game that never was, the pairings that could have been, and the thread that we get when your kind enables the parasite instead of ignoring its drivel.
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>>578577213
How about you talk about the things you like about her that aren't physical.
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>>578577213
Touch grass.
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>>578577213
I ask for your Drow's hand in marriage
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>>578577343
likes:shitposting, nagging
dislikes:having a job
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>>578577213
Let's talk about your constant autistic whining, which is worse than every other topic in the thread
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>>578577213
The only parasite I see here is you.
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>>578577472
many are saying this
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>>578577213
So, no, you just want to bitch and moan. Got it.
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>"who cares it's not real", one of the worst and most banal thought-terminating cliches in existence, especially bad coming from a fiction author
>I don't remember what I was thinking so let's terminate the discussion on the matter
This is pretty whack to be honest. This kind of attitude is bad no matter what the game/movie/fiction/whatever.

I'm sorry to the astarion sisters. Wotc writing a novel about a character you like is often a bad thing. The Imoen fans had to learn the hard way too, and the baldur's gate novelization itself is also considered mostly shite too. It's weird that a company that exists to produce fiction keeps getting it wrong.

The name D&D may have helped bg3 gain some initial mainstream attention, but other than that, bg3 was a success due to Larian, not WotC. One might even say in spite of WotC, given that we've been told they meddled several times in ways that Swen didn't like.

But the good news is that we can just look forward to Larian's next project, where he's no longer hamstrung by WotC. Look to the future.
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>>578578362
For what it's worth, this will never happen to Minthara. Everyone already forgot that she exists.
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>>578578362
>But the good news is that we can just look forward to Larian's next project, where he's no longer hamstrung by WotC. Look to the future.
you literally spammed the general for literal hours because the trailer featured an orgy just shut the fuck up fatty
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>>578577553
By the way, the parasite is a subhuman that jokes about Mystra being a pedophile (1). If there were a novel about Gale that establishes without a doubt that he was not groomed as a child, would the parasite claim character assassination? Your choice of defending such a creature is pretty revealing.

(1) https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/550536590/#550605383

>>578577913
You don't want to talk about Astarion's anti-Gur racism? Or your favorite thing about Shadowheart's character? Or the sexualities of the companions? That's a shame, because I think these are still worth discussing, at least before twitter informs us that these characters are forever ruined due to poorly written fanfiction. And yes, bitching is all there's left when your kind enables a parasite.
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>>578578765
Not a fan of lizard fucking?
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>Minthara says Gale has third son wizard energy
>Third son wizard:
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>>578578998
I want to see if we can give you a fatal aneurysm.
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>>578578998
Does Astarion trust them new Gurs over there in his novel?
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>>578579017
it probably gave him the ick
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>>578579017
it's disgusting
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>>578579312
bitch got cake
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>>578579441
Eh, there’s far worse things.
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>>578579312
Ketheric can’t handle that booty
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>>578579025
lol, she’s right.
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>>578578362
it's part of the enshitifcation of everything. wotc has that shitty culture where no one in the room has standards
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>>578578362
There's no need to feel sorry for the sisters. They can simply not read the novel. It's not like they were hoping for additional material in the first place, so there aren't even expectations that were later betrayed. The fact that the novel is projected to be poorly written slop means it will be quickly memory-holed, just as these terrible Abdel Adrian novels were. And the world will keep spinning. All this performative outrage does is fill the threads with empty whining about how stupid and tone-deaf WotC is, which is something we all knew for years. The game canon is the only one that matters.
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>>578580714
>They can simply not read the novel
bingo. they choose to do this to themselves. and the dtard capitalising on it to lower the quality of the discourse
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>>578580714
Abdel Adrian novels are canon thanks to WotC, even in BG3.
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>>578580714
sound take, I just hope it doesn't influence game canon in the future
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>>578581210
Lae'zel should be taller, Minthara should be shorter, Astarion should be shorter.
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>>578580810
They are explicitly not. Jaheira is killed in the novels but is still very much alive and kicking in BG3. At best, you could argue that the name "Abdel Adrian" survived and that WotC did canonize a version of that character, but that's very different from claiming the novels are canonical in any way, shape, or form beyond that. And since BG3 prefers the generic term "Gorion's Ward," even that name will be forgotten in time.
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You people actually give a shit about "canon" outside bg3?
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>>578581915
yes, it influences bg3's world
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>>578581210
Holy shit. Jord is a monster. Minsc is 6'7" and Jord is taller.
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>>578581915
Nah. I know it’s just gonna be shit beyond BG3, so the less I engage with it, the better my peace of mind.
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>>578582135
Jord would be 16387283 times better than Halsin and Jaheira as companion. He is timid and inexperient.
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>>578581915
no the hostile elements to the thread are consistently trying to drag notgame into game
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>>578582484
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>>578581915
I care about BG3 and its characters. I care about our four princesses.
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>>578553664
Astarion is getting the same treatment as Khalid
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>>578584713
These shit novels are from 1999 and 2000. There is no excuse for them to repeat the same mistakes in fucking 2026.
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I care about my druid wife.
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>>578584948
Ah, but does she care about you?
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>>578584948
what form does she prefer to get plapped in?
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>>578585494
honestly humans probably get the most pleasure out of it than anything else
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>>578585494
>>578585915
We're more into thorn whip action.
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>>578578765
based
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>>578584948
She is a cutie.
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>>578571717
cute frog
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>>578583323
>four princesses.
I only see 3?
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>>578587480
you're right, one of them is a queen.
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>>578587534
Yeah, lol, a drag queen.
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>>578587480
yeah frogs can't be princesses, that's just silly.
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>>578587396
POV: you are Gale who just got caught gazing at lae'zel's midriff
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>>578581915
Yeah because you will see it in BG4
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the canon mc (durge) has a past of killing children and necrophilia (which definitely dont mix ever) so who cares if one of the companions is a little bit of a reactionary racist
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>canon
>durge
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How long does Lae'zel take every morning to do her hair and makeup?
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>>578591687
Lae'zel never showers so she doesnt need to redo her makeup and hair
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>>578591687
At least an hour.
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>>578591402
>the mc of baldur's gate 1 is a bhaalspawn
>the mc of baldur's gate 2 is a bhaalspawn
>the mc of baldur's gate 3 isn't a bhaalspawn because... THEY JUST ARENT OKAY?!??
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just watched the divinity reveal trailer, that shit is gross. not gonna play it.
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just watched the divinity reveal trailer, that shit is cool. gonna play it.
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>>578592143
that's right
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>>578592986
Cool story, bruh
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>>578592986
Alfira simps LOST
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>>578593291
>>578593584
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>>578583294
just ignore the fan fiction why is that so hard
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Any mod that lets you holster light weapons at the hips (or preferably customizable) instead of wearing everything on your back like a freak?
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This thread is now claimed by The Dark Urge.
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>>578593794
>screenshot from the non canon (tav) campaign
What next, are you going to start quoting the Astarion book at me?

>>578595310
Always has been
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>>578597358
>non canon (tav) campaign
Source: your smelly hairy arse
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>>578592143
>the mc of baldur's gate 3 isn't a bhaalspawn because...
... it takes place a century after the bhaalspawn crisis, hope this helps
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>>578600429
Oh look, a Bhaalspawn!
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>>578600637
sorry welch but the bhaal flesh golem will never be a real bhaalspawn
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>>578605857
>>578603161
Hello? Hello?? Who is this?
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>>578600780
From Bhaal's point of view Durge is the only bhaalspawn that wasn't mutted.
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>>578539515
It's not impossible that Baldy Ron would have stumbled upon some source of immortality like Elminster etc have, and that survived ceremorphosis.
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>>578581210
I have unloaded a handgun into the skull of anyone more than 2 in on either side
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>>578553664
>I barely remember lol
Holy fucking BASED
Reminder that Astarion has canonically fucked a pig thanks to this new book
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>>578616330
Cazador had him flay himself and eat rats, why not fuck pigs and dogs? Godey's boney still isn't canon though.
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>>578607298
it's me, istik! Borgar'zel
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>>578592225
based
>>578592183
cringe
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I agree
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>>578623619
>Villain character is evil
woah
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>>578623619
>>578623760
If you recruit Minthara but destroy the Absolute, she will go to the Underdark and start an anti-Lolthite rebellion which is a net positive for good even if she is doing it for revenge.
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>>578624146
There's no way she survives
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>>578624146
>net positive
She wants to establish a new drow house for herself or kill her mom and take over the Baenre but at the core of her character she's still a pure female drow (evil, backstabbing, self-serving, tyrannical, etc.). In short, nothing particularly new for the underdark community.
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>>578624553
Minthara may be evil but she's not chaotic randumb evil like Lolth, she's basically the same as the Vhaeraunites used to be before he became Lolth's bitchboy again.
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The Blade.
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>>578626661
Gonna sacrifice him to booal. Maybe i should look up a good bleed build for Astarion.
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>>578466723
Is there a mod that lets you have unlimited companions so you can hear all the dialogue in one run but despawns all the extras during combat so you don't immediately stomp every combat encounter?
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it's up
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/18568
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>>578626661
our hero
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>>578609252
maybe not but he certainly isn't the bhaalspawn from the older games, and that's fine
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2 days left before gamescom /bgg/ you know what that means, time to call dibs on your favorite origin
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>>578592986
>>578600429
and yet tav was a bhaalspawn in early access
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>>578641035
i wish it still was because welch's oc is cringe
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>>578623619
>147 upboats
slay.

DIVINITY
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>>578644038
she's literally the least kissed companion which checks out because she has weird ass lips
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>>578644480
she's the ugliest companion
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>>578644878
toad is far uglier
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>>578638534
They're never showing Divinity, bro.
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>>578643163
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>>578647474
at least toad looks like a girl
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>>578649465
Laezel & Gale can show up thanks to astral plane/magic shenanigans
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>>578644878
Disagreed. She actually has a nice facial structure and cool eyes.
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>>578634672
N
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>>578656079
>She actually has a nice facial structure
she's hideous, hence her being the least popular companion romance
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>>578656079
True.
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>>578656679
I was talking about Lae’zel.
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this is literally (selune)shadowheart I'm not crazy yeah?
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>>578656679
i dont gaf about minthara but shes the least popular because she's evil and you dont get her as a companion until act 2
>b-but astarion is evil too!
evil white twink = immediate tumblr sexyman, its not the same
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why, yes. yes I would
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>>578656679
I don't understand people saying Shadowheart has a man jaw but with Minthara I understand
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>>578657878
How?
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Divinity in 2 days are you hype?
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>>578656079
>She actually has a nice facial structure
for a man
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>>578659394
>Divinity in 2 days
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>>578659394
>>578638534
Oh, we're counting the days?
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/549616602/
It has been 257 days since the parasite started hijacking OPs to advertise Larian's Next Game. Because it's a worthless parasite.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/553545974/#553732537
It has been 223 days since the parasite decided it would start spamming its namefag-obsessed pasta in every thread. Because it's a mindbroken parasite. Stop spamming worthless off-topic garbage, parasite.
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>>578656079
shes fucking ugly, her being a female drow blinds people
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>>578660962
trvth nvke
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>man vs ghoul
contrarians are mentally ill
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>>578660675
How many days since your retard mother started prostituting herself?
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>>578661051
If you like Minthara you are the contrarian
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bg3 characters that give you the ick:
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>>578661126
since he was BORN
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>>578661330
shart, laezel, minthara, karlach, jaheira
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>>578662707
based mizora enjoyer
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>>578661126
Ah, another mindbroken shitposter. I have to assume that you're a different creature from the parasite, though your kind often blends into the same amorphous mass of crass stupidity. Here is a beautiful Minthara. Will you inadvertently call her a "femme fatale," as the parasite once did? (1) Dear Mintharafag, there is no language barrier. Will you retaliate by vomiting another idiotic, worthless shitpost? Your kind abhors beauty and decency.

(1) https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/568704252/#568956424
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Drow are so cruel
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>>578663080
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>>578663584
i wouldnt be opposed to a drow twink companion modeled after tom holland
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>>578663906
Tom Holland is not hot
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>>578660675
manthyfag also talks about Larian's next games yet you don't mind the shitposting when it comes from him, curious
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>>578664297
he wouldn't have pulled zendaya if he weren't
>>578663584
kek
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>>578663487
it's so sad to see her as a young innocent girl knowing what she grows up to be...
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>>578663080
Ah, another autist retard fedoraposting
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>>578664685
finish that sentence
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>>578664456
I mean he's probably a nice or cool person but he's not hot
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>>578664297
yes he is lol
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not gonna lie I'm really really excited you guys you have no idea how fun it is to follow a larian game's early access
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Anons, legit question: I'm going for a shar shadowchud and i'm aware of her hidden good girl points. My question is, how can i guarantee that Shart kills Nightsong? Am i supposed to avoid getting her good girl points or can i just push her to kill at Aylin's prison?
Gonna raid the grove and destroy last light btw.
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>>578665983
You need to actively push her to embrace Shar and minimise her good points. If you always let her choose she naturally gravitates towards her good choices, so you got your work cut out for you.
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>>578665983
Just tell her to kill Aylin when the time comes.
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>>578666257
he reports for that
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>>578667075
I don’t give a shit.
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>>578667126
just saying that anon will get a hit
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question of the day: for you, is BG3 a
>an 8/10 game
>a 9/10 game
>a 10/10 game
with
>a 5/10 story
>an 8/10 story
>a 10/10 story
filled with
>6/10 characters
>8/10 characters
>10/10 characters
developed and written by
>geniuses
>idiots
>people with a vision
>nerds
>dorks
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>>578668098
Its an 8 out of 10 game with 11/10 presentation, 7/10 characters and 6/10 story. But after Playing Pathfinder games i cant even call this game a choice heavy rpg. Replayability sucks, most of the ui sucks and lvl 12 cap is dogshit.
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>>578668892
And to think they originally wanted 10 to be the level cap. Still fucking baffling.
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>>578466723
So are there any mods that add new land, I remember the devs gave the ability a while back so has anything came of it?
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>>578667126
Look at you, acting like a big shot for saying an edgy word on 4chan. Are you feeling all grown-up, kid? Normal people outgrow such childish behavior after puberty. Why hasn't that been the case for you? That can be your "question of the day."

>>578668892
So it's a mediocre game that fools the unaware with top-notch presentation? That sounds a little harsh - and a little telling. I rate BG3 highly, but not because Larian invented cinematography and voice acting. I rate BG3 highly because I value characters and narrative. And I would not deduct a point or two had the budget been more modest. You do realize CRPGs were not invented in 2023?
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I don't like any mod that uses ugly ass AI slop title cards but I really wanted to skip the prologue.
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/24596?tab=description
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>muh AI bad
cringe leftist communist behavior
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>>578673150
An 8/10 rating is very high in my scaling. But when you compare the game to the others in the genre it falls short in many aspects.
>DAO(15 years old game) has it beat on game pacing and ui. I could even argue it having better combat as well.
>Tav background customization is nonexistent, durge's is set in stone
>Game is basically on rails experience. You dont get new content by making different choices you block content.
>No consequences to tadpoles or literally any need or difficult choices regarding them.
>Evil paths literally have no nuance or benefit.
I love the game but this is the harsh reality. Divinity needs to be better at choice reactivity and content/reward.
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>>578674062
I don't like ugly, thats why I vomit when I look at you or Manthara
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>>578674062
Still trying that narrative of AI being a partisan issue huh. How's that going for you?
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Because Dammon's VA is a CHUD!
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>>578673150
Actually, yes, seeing some autistic weirdo counting the days and keeping bookmarks about when some stranger started to dare say something somewhat off topic on his precious roleplaying video game 4chan threads makes me feel MUCH more secure about my successful adulthood, you pathetic piece of shit.
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>>578673274
if they're too lazy to go into photomode and take a screenshot of the nautiloid crash site then how am i supposed to believe they put any effort into the mod itself
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i wish it was easier to break your paladin's oath so there were more thematically appropriate times to become an oathbreaker
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>>578675769
You forgot to signal how mature you are by using the n-word. Grown-ups are too cool to give a shit. Are you a grown-up? Yes, you are. Do enrich the thread with personal attacks (against a stranger) and your continued enabling of a subhuman (stranger). How do you feel about Shadowheart's writer? Should he be beaten to death? (>>578480157) It's what you would certainly call "somewhat on topic."
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uh oh autistic melties
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>>578668098
My only complain about BG3 I can't make an orgy with Wyll origin, Minsc and Halsin.
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>Infamous Alfira murder scene happens
>I do the logical thing, chug a giant hill potion and hide her body
>No one mentions her being missing
>no one cares about the bloody ritual mark on the ground
>Withers just says nuh-uh!
Thats fucking it?
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>>578678539
Do you want to be angry with Withers?
Just see this video:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BG3/s/QNvGzqi9Tk
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>>578675769
>remembering when people did things is BAD
don't be surprised by choices (you chose to be cringe) and consequences (someone remembers you were cringe) in a bg3 thread
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>>578675579
Only leftists complain about generative AI, they do it because data centers cause climate change apparently and big corporations bad and also it takes artists jobs (every artist is a commie). Just typical left winger mental illness really
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Some people have been so utterly consumed by political shitflinging over the past decade that saying "AI is ugly" is somehow a political statement now. Truly the rebirth of the retarded liberal "all art is political" cope.
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>>578680157
toadcel you are a literal thirdworlder, why do you care about american politics so much
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>>578680501
>toadcel you are a literal thirdworlder
lol!!
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>won the got the wrong guy award, again
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>>578664685
I genuinely wanted to shed a tear when she hugged her parents
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>>578680501
how exactly is that a toadcel post
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>>578682318
(everyone he doesn't like is either mintharachad or frogchad)
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>>578682373
>mintharachad
you lost me, i'm just in favor of disliking people for things they've actually done
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>>578682373
What about a shadowchad?
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it was feetchad
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someone call the burn ward
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everyone I don't like is the TOADCELLLL
*meltie*
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>>578688475
am I supposed to be impressed?
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>>578679814
Ooh, and now we're trying to pretend only lefties care about environmentl issues, too. You really need new material buddy, did your jeet overlords not give a new script to work off of?
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>>578678493
that's a sussy complaint
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>>578678539
Why does he pick and choose who to revive?
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>>578661330
Wyll because he is black. We don't want these in the games, Swen
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hmmmmm
maybe bg3 did need a DLC or two, maybe even an expansion like at least let us see waterdeep or something, divinity got no excuses like at least let us see waterdeep or something , you gotta go nuts swen vincke, I want DLC companions, DLC spells, DLC quests, DLC everything I'll pay I promise
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>>578693846
>We don't want these in the games, Swen
we do actually, wyll is factually the companion with the most mods downloaded
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to turn him white, yeah the most mods
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>>578694458
On nexus, actually, oh and laezel finds wyll attractive
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>>578694458
it's a shame, i actually like his default look but then keeping karlach makes him ugly
fortunately i don't like karlach
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>>578661330
The black necromancer, Dame Aylin and Isobel's relationship, Lakrissa and Alfira, Gortash and Durge, Halsin, Rennald.
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>>578466723
Where's the mod that makes Minthara's voice actually listenable? We have the full power of AI we can throw at this problem and the best we got was that "Minconia" mod which barely even addresses the issue and also has AI glitching in it cause it was made in one pass 2 years ago or whatever.
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>I stake astarion because he's gayer than me
>I behead karlach because she's taller than me
>I mod wyll to turn him white
>I kill aylin because she's a lesbian
>I let halsin be kidnapped in act 3
>I kill nocturne in front of shadowheart
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what's with all the AI shilling lately
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>>578668098
Easy 10/10
You don't have to be perfect, you just have to be the best at your job, rating is also a ranking.

Story rating is retarded, we rate the writing, this is not a movie or a tvshow, the main plot is about 20% of the whole game, the writing however is what occupies the whole thing, you have a lot of dialogue but a lot of the dialogue is just reactivity and normal character interaction, unrelated to the story. You also have various side quests, character arcs, and simple lore dumps.
Writing as a whole takes 8.5/10, because the game is reactive and the characters are good.
I'd say the main plot would be a 7 in videogame standards.


However you missed a lot of other aspects:
Gameplay: This is way more important than any story, The game has excellent gameplay in its genre, its turnbased and has some of the best turnbased combat ever made, the DnD simulation is second to none, you have great encounter design, a lot of interactivity offered to the player, immersive-sim elements, multiple ways to play your way, the way subclasses feel different from each other, the controls given to you such as jump which no other crpg appears to have.
Then you have the world design: each map is filled with unique content, the dungeons and the areas are flexible and allows the player to bend them for exploration and to create funny and creative situations, there is a depth to the map, in its exists and shortcuts, unseen before in the genre or any turnbased rpg.
Then you have things like presentation which is really good, the actors did well, the animations are mostly clean, and you have the music and sound effects, and ofcourse the production values like cinematics and graphics.
And each area has a different vibe and colore pallet, all of this adds to the game.

So verdict:
Gameplay: 10
World Design: 10
Writing: 8.5
Presentation: 8

10/10 Developed by talented people.
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>>578694919
How should I fucking know I haven't posted here in 2+ months. I came here to ask about that because my fucking modded install got wiped and I wanted to know if anyone has "fixed" her fucking voice yet (even though I know if anyone bothers to even reply it's going to be fucking retards like you, or faggots going "UM WHAT DO YOU MEAN HER HIDEOUS BARITONE MAN VOICE IS ACTUALLY SO HOT, YOU CHUD")
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I want to start another resist Durge playthrough, what class/multiclass should I run this time?
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>>578695105
>the controls given to you such as jump which no other crpg appears to have
i remember the one owltard trying to claim rogue trader had vertical elements lmao
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>>578674942
Please be trolling, The CRPG genre has a lot of downright mediocre games, and even the ones proclaimed to be the best are lacking on multiple fronts compared to BG3, this is hilarious to even mention Dragon Age Origins which loses to BG3 in like at least 10 different things.


I can respect your different opinion but I disagree with this whitewashed view of the genre, CRPGs aren't that good on average. Just because a game does evil path better (which is rare btw) or a game had more choices and consequences through their dialogue (cause most of them don't factor gameplay choices at all) that doesn't mean that they are amazing. There's different CRPGs with different design that focus on different things and have different strengths, BG3 comes the closest when it comes to overall package.

And DAO combat isn't better than FF12 or Xenoblade, its not half as good as DOS2 or TOEE, let alone BG3. Again I can respect a different opinion, but some things are not subjective.
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dos2 had vertical elements and even a cut shove special that worked like bg3's
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>>578694810
I stake astarion depending on if my character would do it or not
I behead karlach because she's annoying and dumb
I don't mod wyll because he's perfect the way he is
I kill aylin because shar's gear is great for my current build
I let halsin be kidnapped in act 3 because lae'zel is already in my party so he's next on the priority list
people kill nocturne?
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>>578694810
>I kill aylin because she's a lesbian
Why do gays hate lesbians?
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>>578695913
>I don't mod wyll because he's perfect the way he is
based
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>>578695913
I kill Wyll first chance I get because he's a nigger. He's also completely redundant because I am and always will be the Warlock.
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>>578693416
Withers is aware of how Bhaal acts and knows that you would be compelled to murder Alfira again. Reviving her from a bloody ordeal just to have her go through it again is cruel and unusual punishment for the innocent bard. He spares her from Bhaals bullshit by hiding her away safe in the afterlife. This is the explanation he gives when you ask and it makes sense.

Now, he COULD revive her and then also constantly intervene on her behalf sending her away where you can't get her and actively protecting her from you and Bhaal, but now that's a whole thing that he's signed up for and Bhaal is a vindictive bitch and wouldn't let it go and he would get other resources to kill her elsewhere and it honestly would be a whole thing. hich, importantly, would be hell for Alfira herself the entire time. Imagine being in witness protection forever, constantly moving and never feeling safe, but the people after you are a magical god empowered death cult instead of just the mafia or whatever.

So this is one of the examples where the soul being willing comes into play. There is a material component to both raise dead and true resurrection, there is a body and time limit requirement for raise dead, and there's also a spellcaster level requirement to both, and finally there's also the soul's willingness. People oft forget the last part.
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wyll haters are so weird he's the friendliest companion in the game and doesn't call you slurs like astarion & laezel or a retard like gale
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>>578696042
Wyll is one of the good ones though
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>>578695373
Again I'm not a hardcore fanboy, I can respect different opinions, but you have to be fair, give credit where its due. I played Pathfinder games last year after i heard a lot of praise from people like Anon above, completely glazing the games as some S tier RPGs, and i was shocked how lacking they were, in many aspects, Pathfinder owes all its quantity feats and classes to its tabletop, its not even to Owlcat's credit, cause the proof to my claim is that despite its myriad of build options the game is poorly balanced, and most of the are unrealized. So naturally if you adapt a wider ruleset you'll end up with more options but are they welldesigned to suit the videogame? in Pathfinder's case the answer is no.
Also as a videogame WOTR is just not great, there's a lot of issues with it, from how it controls, to how it plays, to its exploration, how loot works, the quest design and world design, like forget presentation and production values which every oldfart boomer claims is the only thing BG3 does right, as a videogame, Owlcat's game design is just super messy.
And same goes for Bioware. Bioware simplifies their games a lot and despite that they still don't make rich gameplay, like all their games are very simple and straight forward. DAO plays like MMO-light, I'm not even kidding. and Mass Effect plays like any typical cover shooter.

I like the games but the glazing is annoying, its cool you want to trick some newfag reddit user to try more of your old fav games, but dont oversell them.
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>>578696338
yea WOTR is dogshit
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If Durge was a companion I would have killed him pretty quickly. I don't get how the party follows him along if he's the leader.
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>>578696246
you had me at wyll appreciation and lost me at gale catching random strays
wtf be nice
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>>578696485
Wouldn't say its dogshit, it has some merit, mainly the way mythic paths work and some characters are great. But its not even in the same realm as the genre's greats.
People compared it nonstop to DOS2 before BG3 came out, I don't get why they keep doing this, if anything Pillars of Eternity is way more fitting to be compared to Pathfinder games.
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>>578696246
I swear wyll would have been a fan favorite if the writer didn't have health issues and got more opportunities to make his personality shine
>>578696485
it's a bloated mess owlcat games are way too long
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>>578696545
gale's insufferable when you play another caster and keeps flexing that he banged the sluttiest goddess as if that's hard to pull off
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If Durge was a companion I would have fucked him pretty quickly.
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>>578695354
Oath Of Ancients Paladin 2/Star Druid 10
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Do you feel jolly? Aren't you meant to feel jolly? You don't make for a very good gnome.
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Some of the unintelligible drivel above is reminiscent of a particular porcine poster. Maybe I'm wrong.

>>578696042
Don't use the n-word here. It's not acceptable.
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wyll would've been better if he were just a commoner hack pretending to be a great adventurer. not a jobber like the one from ea who lost to goblins but just a guy who wanted to be something bigger and chose a shortcut.
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wyll got more bro potential than astarion & gale, bg3 really needed scenes that allowed you to hang out with the party like persona, divinity better deliver, not everybody intends on romancing all the companions and a lot of characters got their characterization locked behind their romance especially gale & shart imo
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I don't care about divinity
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I care about divinity
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>>578700630
>>578700982
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>>578700630
you should, it'll shock the world just like its big brother bg3
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>Alright then, let's get going. I'm Tav.
>Shadowheart.
>Oh you're using our made up names... I'm The Dark Urge then.
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>laezel
sparring and sharing tales about each other's homeworlds, hunting
>shadowheart
drinking booze, talking about her favorite novels & flowers,help her find an actual hobby liking animals is not a personality trait,help her remember her past
>karlach
sparring, wrestling, playing with her magic ball, looking for soul coins together, stealing food from gale's reserve, expand her plushie collection
>wyll
sparring, dancing, sharing heroic tales, listening to him recalling his adventures, look for cool blades,talking with mizora when he's not looking
>gale
trying to learn magic, interacting with his familiars, finding magic books, visiting a pocket dimension
>astarion
a looot of gossipping, help him find chickens & bears to suck on, bullying wyll & gale, evil shenanigans
>minthara
>halsin
nobody gives a shit
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>>578702409
cute and pure
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>>578702409
your pic says interacting with each other not with (you)
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>>578703364
I wanted to make a list of which party member each companion would hang out with but got lazy and didn't finish it
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>>578696209
Thanks for the good answers as always. Did you try the epic challenge again?
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divinity should have approval ratings between companions that could be affected by their interactions in combat and that would affect their banter and performance in combat
divinity should have companion interaction cutscenes when you return to camp like in kotor 2
divinity should have companions hanging out with each other instead of staying in one place in the camp
divinity should have companions romancing each other if the player didn't romance them
divinity should have an option to send out a party consisting only of companions
divinity should have special missions where you take turns controlling two parties doing parallel tasks at the same time like in kotor 2
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shut the fuck up
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I Can't Believe Shadowheart's Feet Are That Smooth And Delicate
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that's because I give them a tongue bath every evening
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>>578703598
I have not gone in for a second try yet but I plan to. I might also tone it down just a smidge so I can combine it with a couple other mods I enjoy, like additional encounters, which would be completely imbalanced combined with the crazy challenge mode.

I've been busy finishing up the Infinite Mouseion dlc before Zero Company comes out. And then I got sidetracked by the new call of duty game. Yes I know cod is stupid but it's a guilty pleasure.

My plan is to try again as soon as I finish this RT playthrough, but if that doesn't happen before Zero Company then it might be a while.
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>>578683703
theres not even any good foot fetish art of default durge
im guessing
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>>578706891
why do you samefag at yourself lol
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i might consider freeing sazza if she let me hit
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The Rite of Loss
A Baldur's Gate short
Length: 17 minutes
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>>578706891
I wish people did challenge runs more. The solo honor noah roonglow was so long ago. Hopefully you get around to it soon

>cod
I did not expect that of all things
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>>578705957
yes
yes
yes
yes
hell no
yes
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>act 3
>companions X & Y have been dating for 2 acts
>''hey tav from divinity so uhmm we really like your vibes and [...]''
this is so gonna happen, this is SO gonna happen and john and kevin will be behind it I can't trust larian anymore when it comes to romances, someone's getting cucked or turning poly and it won't be me, john's character will be permabanned from my party
NEVER AGAIN
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>>578709039
>hell no
why are you against an optional mechanic
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>>578709615
If I don't need it and wont use it I don't want it
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>>578700132
>>578700630
>>578700982
>>578701093
>>578705957
>>578709461
Stop spamming worthless off-topic garbage, parasite.
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>>578710418
divinity in your mother
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>>578713160
cute frog



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