Previous: >>578514117>Version 4.5 "To Roll the Stars in Astropolis" Special Programhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpZoM9t7KRAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8e8Al0AgSE>Download - https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/en-us/home>4.5 Preview Page - https://act.hoyoverse.com/puzzle/hkrpg/e20260807version_847959e2a2/index.html>Version 4.5 Trailer: "To Roll the Stars in Astropolis"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTIdycp-c9Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2sldOUNqM4>Himeko • Nova Character Trailer: "The Morning Star Falls Tonight"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPgR6EEWPMohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH2Umzd-rxY>Improv Tour Trailer: "To the Onlooker"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7MK5ghgl1whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp2j9BEarSQ>Animated Short: "Your Ending, My Beginning"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAX7qNcp7g4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czh3UXrkxM0>Honkai: Star Rail × Fate[UBW] Collab Trailer — "A Long Awaited Reunion"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX3oBRfMjdAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVXAFBbBQuM>Current Character Banners: Himeko • Nova, Sparxie, Dan Heng • Permansor Terrae, Evernight + Moze, Hanya, Serval - https://www.hoyolab.com/article/45842578>New Drip Marketing:>Pearl (5* Ice Elation) - https://www.hoyolab.com/article/46221118>Redeemable Codes - https://hsr.hoyoverse.com/giftNSJR3B97ZZ5XBESTCOFFEEEVERSTARRAILFATE2026STARRAILGIFT>/hsrg/ Tools & Resourceshttps://rentry.org/hsrg-resources-14>/hsrg/ Thread Templatehttps://rentry.org/hsrg-thread-template-14
*sharts on you*
Every shitposter in this thread. Could. Be. ME!
Let's pave it out!Oooooooooooooooh~
Momo...
Trailblaze
Herta: Star Rail
>>578560892Tingyun...
>>578560780Thanks for the Tingyun thread
>>578560780>>578561196One of the cutest characters. Her only defect is being very arrogant
random collab has made me like uggorice more than 8 versions of amphoreus. i might even call her cuterice from now on
No you wont
Slavic Aglaea
NIGGER!
You love Seele.
>>578561545>sl*vic
>>578561574calm down sparkle
>>578561390kissing tesla
>>578561680welt...
>>578561602Seele, "Seele" and... who?
We start way to bad this one
How many days until I can get Hyacine eidolons?
Jingliu novaflare when...
gokushatter.gif
L-la-la-lava!Ch-ch-ch-chicken!Gui's Lava Chicken, yeah, it's tasty as hellOoh, Kafkacita, now you're ringing the bellCrispy and juicy, now you're having a snackOoh, super spicy, it's a lava attack!
we are all trans and lesbian here
>>578560763I see IseePunish windows being overly short might be a put-off from me, bc I hate fucking Radahn for this very reason, and love Lies of P as it's always fair in terms of letting you attackBUT then I saw all these aura edits of Mortal Shell II which make me want to buy the game anyway, especially if if the map layout is brilliant which is what has been missing from recent soulslikes
>>578562115wrong, we're not all gay dykes...
>>578561203
I'm so in love
>>578562115Anon that just means you are bisexual witg extra steps. Though bisexual is pushing it.90% faggot and 10% straight>>578562378I want to FUCK Kiana Kaslana from Honkai Impact 3rd
>>578561328Her arrogance is endearing
>>578561631slavs are white
>>578562378My hetero queen
>>578562328How would you rate her /hsrg/?
Azur Lane tricked me into sexing the Germans, the Slavs, etc. Girls Frontline tricked me into sexing Slavs again. You won't trick me this time.
>>578562703She's fairly pretty
>>578562703>blonde elffeels like something is missing in the tits department?
I think herta sucks
>>578563108https://files.catbox.moe/6i2mka.jpg
>>578562703extremely ciute
>>578562234Punish windows get better in late game because there are a few weapon enchants that can stun/slow bosses and extend your punish window beyond 2 light attacks or 1 heavy attack.But I think short punish windows is intended gameplay because normal and heavy attacks deal 0 stagger damage, you literally have to parry or use a few specific abilities to build stagger, indicating the game wants you to play defensive.
>>578562703Mogged by Brito 4 years ago
Swannie LOVE!
>>578563164that's it right? if you make a blonde elf, she's gotta have noticeable knockers
>>578563197So it's parrykino like Lies of P... NiceTell you what I will try it out tomorrow, I realy need my action game fix
>swankek is backgrim
>>578561187Trailblazing Himeko's uncharted womb...
>>578563108>elfThat's a fairy.
Two beloved characters on this image
>>578564017There's also Herta and Ruan Mei.
>>578563998ok whatever, i actually don't care what her race is, she's blonde so i want to see some tits on that rack
>>578564017Lambda's Friend...Seagull...
>>578564136missing something...
>>578563903This but Acheron
portable music player when?
Ever since the new patch released, I started jacking off a lot more imaging myself as Himeko. Is that normal?
I need a new turn based game, is Limbus good?
>>578514080>>578514265>hsr>it's hard to actually find what you need>zzz>you can easily craft ten crit/crit/atk pieces, but ALL of them would roll last def stat 4 times, then you'll use the target craft thingie and that piece would also roll 4 times defNot sure which is worse, they won't make it easy for you regardless of a system.But zzz inventory management is comfier
>>578564136>>578564017
>>578561409she never had the time to be cute in amphoreus due to shit going down, it's simply the logical conclusion
>>578562115Kafblade schizo what are your thoughts about this?
Chicken Momo.
nexus anima when?
>>578565002
>>578561409>>578564667Yeah and if they took anyone else and made them act out of character you'd likely feel differently about them as well.
>>578564930transbians are heterosexual men who pretend to be women, but are terrible at it, and very dysgenic and troonslop
>>578565154they should do that with robin, she should act like those meme gifs
>>578565162thanks for your input, bladesis
>>578563463https://files.catbox.moe/r4g6zh.jpg
>>578565294why are you being a groomer right now?
stop being in denial
>>578565162thoughts on our token groomer? >>578562767
No
yeah we play shart rail around herebut what else do we play?
>>578565154>character development is... LE BAD
>>578565703playing stalker 2's new update atm
>>578565653swanbro is a heterosexual man with a girlfriend cant be a groomer, especially since you fags love to false flag
>>578565703Elden Ring Nightreign
>>578562705>topaz(yelena), pela, elysia, seele, kafkabro, bronya, bronya, misha, silver woof>You won't trick me this time.U sure?
how do we save zzz?
>>578565002lava chicken momo?
>>578565703Rural JK Exhibitionist 2
>>578562613>Phairene shipper who needs Mydei out of the wayTheir dedication to a ship that everyone knows will be cucked out of future meaningful interactions to fulfill self-insert fantasies is almost admirable.
>>578566018nani
>>578566187Phaideifags can only say this because they won in the end. 90% of phaideifags would drop the ship without the shilling because they're not real fujos and need hoyos approval to ship anything.
>>578562613>Mydeimos has child with Castorice?!!
>>578561409such is the power of Fate collab. it focused on the sister bond between the two instead of >1000 YEARS AND I CANNOT BE TOUCHED >WATCH THIS SAD ANIMATED CLIP OF HOW RONERY I AM >TRAILBLAZER CAN TOUCH ME?!? WTF GIVE ME COCK GIVE ME COCK RIGHT NOW GIVE ME COCK!Sakura would also be demanding cock too. Cuterice truly is a good way to remind Rin of Sakura.
>>578565889It's not "Yeeeelenahh", it's "Jelena"Get your balkan slav names right
>>578565703Been enjoying some ZZZ latelyStill trying to finish KOTOR2Finally about to try out the Trails in the Sky remake
it's Yeeeelenahh
>>578566548I'm going to kill you
YEEEEAH
>>578566028It feels like it's missing something
>>578561179>>578565002>>578561179
>>578566378Well that's not what's happening, so there's no point in fantasizing alternate universes. Almost every fujo has been on the losing ship end at least once, so we all know that there's no true honor in shipping even if people pretend otherwise. When you're on top, you punch down and brag about your superiority, and when you're bottoming, you endure and wish your ship was on top.
>>578567021I just think it's pathetic phaideifags community is built on hoyoverse shilling, it's a perfect example of why zoomer fujos can't make good content or genuine fan spaces anymore.
>>578565739It's unprofitable /hig/ger
>>578562234Did someone say mechanically boring boss that looks like a bad mod?
>>578567342huh?
>1 cycle>2 cycles>1 cyclenot like this...
>>578565703fighting gamesvisual novels
>>578565739>goes back to being bland rice after sparxie is dumpstered
Anaxa rerun won
>>578565976
>>578567647>1 cycle>no sustain rin archerHuh?>e0 archerHuuh?
>>578565976how come it's only about ZZZ? ZZZ this ZZZ that? what about the other gacha? how do we save Wuwa?
>>578567513Aiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee my PTSDWhat a shitty way to conclude an almost perfect game
>>578567316Someone laid out a perfectly good foundation for us. Why not use it? At least most early Phaidei shippers waited until they saw in-game interactions before shipping. That stopped them from ending up like the Phainaxa shippers who thought their ship was locked in based on another game only to find out that these were different characters we're dealing with.Although this sounds like coping from someone who needs to convince themself that their ship and its comunity is just as well off or even better without the hoyo shilling. Come on. What's your ship?
>>578567959Nobody cares about poowa and neither its flopping like zzz
>>578565002Now that the hype died down, Remielle is kinda ugly
>neither its
>>578568056>Although this sounds like coping from someone who needs to convince themself that their ship and its comunity is just as well off or even better without the hoyo shilling.I don't ship hoyotrash, also nice obsession with phainaxa kek I knew you'd bring them up when I started pointing out how pathetic it is you lot shit on phairenes while needing a government mandate to enjoy your yaoi. It's like watching chimps sling shit at each other after eating the bananas the caretaker threw at them.
I just came across Zaunite's Tingyun in a Bloody Pad picture in my gallery Uh oh
Mywife love!
>>578567513i really hate how shitty the combat from DS 1 to ER has become went from multiple ways to defeat bosses by understanding level design and observing your environment to roll and parry bro! we want to be a character action game now!
>>578567959You are obsessed
>>578567804>Triple brick rerun is outselling zzz anniversary just 4 days after releasing their latest newest characterThey killed HSR for this5th rerun soon
>>578568551Didn't you pay attention? I already told you that when you're on top with a ship, you punch down. So, Phaidei punches down on Phairene and Phainaxa. Do you also complain about cats having an unfair advantage when they're tossing around mice? You're sounding like someone who can't accept that reality is unfair and creatures are self-indulgent.
>>578565703>yeah we play shart rail around here>but what else do we play?We play the trails series
>>578567930I probably could do 0 cycle but my rin\blade gear is not that good yet.
>>578567661have you played the avatar game mommynami?
>>578565976In theory she has twice that amountYou know why she only has half of revenue? Because the anniversary banner of their coalburner character is active for all 6 weeks, she flopped so hard they had to count all 6 weeks to try to not make her look as a flop (she flopped harder than blade in japan)
SHEEEEIT
>5th rerunHe can't even get his jeetposts right kek
>>578569072no one here plays that
>>578567959why does japan hate this wuwa update so much? They even started complaining about the ML bait and they invented that shit
>>578565703we play smt here
>>578569347based based basedyuri is the future
>>578569045Didn't you pay attention? I already said the punching down is pathetic because you have no real community and would disperse if not for constant shilling. Nothing really binds you together besides hoyoverses approval.I'm laughing at how hollow your existence is despite you lot pretending otherwise KEEEEK.
>>578569347japan loves ntr
>>578568914this is /hsrg/ why are we discussing ZZZ revenue in /hsrg/?
>5:48 AM in metro manila
>>578565703TF2... Home...
>>578569387my nigga beelzebub
just started unlimited blade worksi can absolutely understand why the hoyo devs are obsessed with FATE
>wucucksjust kill this game already and put it out of its misery
>>578569537btaschizo...
oh sowwy did we interrupt your erp troon session?
>>578569225> they had to count all 6 weeksCyrene one only counted until the middle of a patch and then all of her numbers were written to a next banner (which is why it still shows a rerun having 5g) i dont think it can change the formula on the fly
>>578568864Sadly I am guilty of liking thisLike yes DS1 is peak world design and so on but I love fighting the sdame boss for 7 hours and the release fom winningIsshin, the Sword Saint is the best boss ever made imo
>>578565703I play a lot of stuff.
>>578569206nyot xerbut yes
>the sdame boss for 7 hours and the release fom winning
>>578565703Been replaying some older Atelier games the past weeks to get 100% completion in them
>>578569789
>>578569472>you have no real communityHow do you gauge this? Do you think HSR has no real community because the game depends on constant updates?>would disperse if not for constant shillingWhy should I care about this?>Nothing really binds you together besides hoyoverses approval.I mean, the approval is a bonus, but you're currently the only one claiming that's what's keeping us together, so why should I believe that you know what you're talking about if you don't even engage with hoyo ships meaning you definitely don't engage with the shipping communities?
>>578569808Cyrene counted only 3 weeks like any other bannerYou know why?BECAUSE SHE DIDNT FLOPshe wasn't aimed at brown and blacks, so there was no reason to count 6 weeks
bta is really angry tonight
Mappa will upscale Sukuna into him. The HSR animation has foreshadowed it.
Black people killed BTAkek's dog
>>578570367>Every female character must have negative ass or the game will flopYour Bayonetta?Your Nier: Automata?Your Fate/Grand Order?Your Azur Lane?Your Genshin Impact?Your Goddess of Victory: Nikke?Your Wuthering Waves?
>Cyrene shilling>70 hours of AI generated "story">Powercreep and HP inflation>CCP Mandated exodia>CCP Mandated triple rerun banners>spending events>still lower than banners without half the push>an example of anything but desperation to inflate numbers at all costs>mfw revisionist history guy was right about cyrenefags
>>578569773Just kill every gacha game post arknights first release and revive one or two. Any other gacha after was a mistake and gacha should never have blown up
>>578570194>How do you gauge this?Because none of you would be here without shilling.>Why should I care about this?Because you're mocking people who are still around despite no shilling.>I mean, the approval is a bonusNo the approval is the entire thing, such is the case with all hoyoverse ships which is why I said you nu-jos are pathetic. Whether it's renheng or ratpiss or faelight or haikaveh, you toddlers can't exist without hoyoverse approvalYou all literally don't have a generative community like back in the day with older ships. This all started with shit like t&b and other marketed slop.
>>578570483They eat dogs in his country so if anything they killed his ancestral cow.
>>578570178Built for churl cock
Acheron flopping
>>578570702the bow as reward was so dumb, at least anyone could use the shitty furbos
>4chan ads are like 80% huge asses nowI think we owe BTAschizo an apology
>>578570959Back when mihomo had SOUL. Although the blatant copying and overall degradation of Highschool of the dead shouldnt be allowed
>>578571127Wouldn't that mean they're targeting the 80% black tier ass lusting userbase and that he's the minority here?
>>578570702More than any banner in any gacha in 2026
>>578571127>tfw BTAschizo is paying a hundred dollars each month to promote big asses on 4chan so he can push his agenda200IQ play
>>578570959Funny how not a single Raiden clone has this much ass, Mihoyo fell off
>>578568329Not a big fan of chickens?
Using my wife's thighs like a onahole!
>>578570959Unprofitable
>>578571390her boobs and butt are too big she appeals to non whites too much
Who else remembers when you had to share technique points to do both waves of moc and ALSO when there were no moc 12When the game was still good FUARRRRRRK
She will fuck all the Meis.
>>578571710So you are sayingLoli = white man's tasteAny mature woman = third world taste?Maybe you arent saying it but thats the message I get
>>578571728I remember the Xianzhou MoC thinking they would do one for each region...spent all of Penacony waiting....
>>578572096i'm a black lolicon doe
>>578570736>Because none of you would be here without shilling.And none of us would be here if Hoyoverse stopped updating HSR. How do you gauge that a group formed around something that receives regular updates isn't a real community?>Because you're mocking people who are still around despite no shilling.Learn to read. I wasn't mocking them due to no shilling. I was mocking them due to anti shilling. Hoyoverse went out of their way to take Phainon and Cyrene's friendship out back so they could market both of them for desperate self-inserters. It was so bad, that I even saw some Phaidei shippers talking about how fucked up it was. >you toddlers can't exist without hoyoverse approvalYou never answered why I should believe you know what you're talking about. Right now, it just sounds like you're just saying that any ship that gets popular while having content doesn't have a real community. That's just retarded logic.>You all literally don't have a generative community like back in the day with older ships.See pic related for my thoughts on your grievances.
>>578571728when you were a noob yeao wait, you're still a noob LOL
>no reinhard to rape
>>578571728I remember when kafka was the hardest boss in the gamenow she dies in 1 hit and somehow the horses have more HP than her
>>578571974If she does that then I will fuck her and all the Meis to fix it
>>578565703I play fnaf 4 with my sister today
>>578572162the problem is that new zones barely have bossesyou can do one for amphoreus but good luck with pena
>>578572306they honestly should just rework all of the 1.x bosses if they're going to keep spamming. Something like how they work in AS is a step in the right direction but for MoC and the AA knights mihomo really should just change their mechanics and such entirely
HAHAHAHA
>>578571710Why would you be so concerned about their opinion?
>>578572604missing something
Pearl beta when?
>>578572013>Look up what 現地妻 means>mfwOh japan...
>>578572591>why does the sibling still think about her brother from time to time
>>578572162I think it's really fucked up. I just came back to the game and the fact there still isn't. Just 1000 hours of amorphous slop is kinda harrowing.>>578572306To be fair to that, the only cleanse existing being Bronya or Natasha since no one rolled Luocha was hard for a while.Looking at this too..... remember before we had shaoji force his whore gf onto us and all the 3rd world pags ate it up
>>578571704
>>578572591>character that has no defining feature other than being tied to sunday is still bringing him upShocking
>sneed is still seething about firefly
>>578571728>1* MOC8Wut
bitcoin is old news
>>578572591i agree with this, sunday is dogshit
>>578572809This artist was aislopping before AIslop was a thing
haha.... a clear is a clear amirite
>>578573156that's pretty rude
>>578572232>And none of us would be here if Hoyoverse stopped updating HSRPointless statement.>Learn to read. I wasn't mocking them due to no shilling. I was mocking them due to anti shilling.That's the same thing you retard KEK>You never answered why I should believe you know what you're talking about.Because you mock people for not having as much shilling as you so it shows that your standards are almost entirely focused on hoyoverses approval. On top of that every phaideifag only talks about how "canon" it is and nothing else. Of course you'll deny this because you're all sub IQ and intellectually dishonest fanheads that just regurgitates each others copes.>See pic related for my thoughts on your grievances.Making fun of and pointing out how pathetic you lot are is not a grievance, just because you feel aggrieved kek.
>>578572854SUPERBROKEN
>>578573187Sides 2 and 3 are skill issue
>>578572854>sakura expy>ice hunttake me back
>>578572807I don't get it
>>578573004The better pink is undressing
>>578573187
>>578572591trvke get wormday out and form an alliance against homos
>>578572591We love Sunday here
Sunday is Stelles boyfriend
>>578572996That's the equivalent of 1*ing moc 10Also I had like no units since I was saving for Daniel and I was perpetually failing every single coin flilI have another screenshot of doing it eventually>>578573286Raiden was also there under hunt lolI'm assuming Butler and Fenghuang are what turned into Lingher later
thanks obama
>>578573435>cut content: the characteri nothing against you cutie but it was rigged from the start
>>578573376Basically the word for a second wifeJapan really love their NTR
>>578573435sakura deserved better, from frontline to not even showing up this patch is a crime
>>578574105the fact that you can get lower rolls is criminal
>>578574103I love my mom
>>578573245>Pointless statement.Translation: I don't have an answer for that.>That's the same thing you retard KEKYou seriously don't see the difference between a ship not having interactions and that ship having its entire relationship systematically disassembled while the writers spit on what attracted you to it in the first place? Most people would prefer the former over the later.>>578573245>Because you mock people for not having as much shilling as you so it shows that your standards are almost entirely focused on hoyoverses approval.I mocked Phairene for Hoyoverse mistreating their ship and I mocked Phainaxa for jumping the gun and making assumptions. I already told you that every fujo has shipped a pairing that was on the losing end, meaning they don't get much content. Punching down is just fun you have while you're on top, because you know that you'll end up back on the receiving end in the future. Most shippers of popular pairing are perfectly capable of shipping less popular pairings. I still ship Jingren even despite little content.>On top of that every phaideifag only talks about how "canon" it is and nothing else.I see them make memes, organize events, and make fanfic and fanart. Most of them just make stuff up for the ship to share with other fans. I guess that answers my question on why I should believe you know what you're talking about. You don't.
>>578573274It was aaaaall auto and also Himeko could have not scammed me by taking exactly 160 rolls to come home AND making me lose the 75/25 to end up with a cope cone and therefore doing negative damage
For some reason with /hsrg/, even with the Btafag, "THAT" posters and erpfags being here 24/7, you can easily filter them and the general is pretty comfy and calm and usable meanwhile /gig/ and /zzz/ are constant warzones
>>578574262>Since there are no sinners... I shall become the sinner!>*gets off-screened*
>>578565703fall guys is bretty fun if I've got nothing to do after HSR
I have Bronya/Silver Wolf fatigue.
uh oh filterjeet melty
Get filtered lol
>>578574794no outside of the erpfags where you can hide the chain, the others can't be really filtered
>>578574637>Translation: I don't have an answer for that.No it's just that it's a completely pointless statement. It's like if you started talking about how your father raped you when you were a child.>You seriously don't see the differenceIn the context that I'm talking about there's no difference kek you're trying far too hard.>More copeYes and I'm saying I'm mocking you because you only exist purely because of shilling. You have no community, you have no connectivity, and without the shilling most of you would not even ship it>I see them make memesThis is pointless because it just ties back to the appeal of Phaidei being the shilling and nothing else. The community doesn't exist without hoyoverses approval. You've yet to acknowledge this fact.
>>578574163>cut content: the characteryour Reca, Siobhan, the catgirl galaxly ranger, Screwllum, stephen lloyd, vita, glasses firefly and Kuchiba?
>>578574794btaschizo is out last line of defense against vermin that come here to destroy the general
>everyone keeps telling me story and stuff improved after all the complaints about 3.x>it still feels like the same dogshit we had for the past two planets with the only difference is that it isnt 50+ hours like amphoreus and somewhat less verbose>only thing i sorta liked the himeko stuff this patch>but it had no buildup whatsoever>3-4 patches prior was just chink shilling, Blade/shitter wolf shilling>only two characters on the planet doing all of the legwork was assveil and sparxie>SW got more shilling than rice, cyrene and firefly combined but all she did in game was cry, buying blade and DH a milkshake, and kill an emojii cant believe they managed to make a planet shittier than fucking amphoreuswhat the fuck
>>578575169I see you’re still glazing yourself in the third person, but at least now you can spell “defense” properly.
>>578575190Say thanks to zzz for killing our gameYou see, they used our budget to fund the 3rd and 4th relaunch for that garbage, leaving our game to starve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJH6ZC6oJi4Better sparkle is in a better game...
>>578575190>it isnt 50+ hours like amphoreusBut each patch so far had like 7-8 hour long story so it's already just as long
>Killing our gameI dont ever recall hsrg having ownership over Honkai Star Rail or stakes and shares in Hoyoverse
>>578575190I keep forgetting SW999 was the anni character because they made her a brickanator
>>578575558not him but 4.2 and 4.3 were really short.4.1 was a medium length with 4.0 and 4.4 being the only 8 hour+ chapters
Aggy bros, how hyped are we for our new support?
>>578575630I am Hangzhou Miyi Investment Co., Ltd.
>>578575630ZZZ is the boogie man of hoyo games because big asses are scary I suppose
>>578575941/hsrg/ simply cant handle these cannons
>>578575756Very, but realistically the only character I’d replace in my current team is RMC but I need him with her at all times.
>>578575630i own the company
>Spam story Skip button>Run around as Acheron and spam E>Each patch is 1 hour long>I am actually enjoying the gameIt's that easy
>>578575630Salesjeets love to act like shareholders despite being the least likely to spend a dime on the game.
>>578576074Now show her from behind, tyrone
>>578576074
>>578576247>i'm enjoying not playing the game
>>578576247What are you enjoying, exactly? It can’t be the story or the characters since you’re skipping all their interactions.
>Log in>Sigh>Log out
>>578576412people give more of a shit about the endgame than the ((story)), especially after 3.7 and 3.8 permanently killed any reason to care about it
>>578575157yamero...
>>578575070>No it's just that it's a completely pointless statement.You claimed that Phaidei shippers are not a community because they would disperse without constant updates. I'm asking you how you gauge whether something is or is not a community while it is receiving constant updates. This isn't a pointless statement. It's literally tied to the entire crux of your claims.>In the context that I'm talking aboutDude, you're talking about my own statements and what I supposedly meant by them. I see no shilling and anti-shilling as two different things. Many people would prefer the former over the later.>Yes and I'm saying I'm mocking you because you only exist purely because of shilling.Phaidei would exist regardless of shilling. The shilling just strengthens the community and is something that all ships want regardless. Phairene shippers are hoping for more interactions and Phainaxa shippers were bragging early on about how they were the real ship because they were Kevsu and would definitely get shilled. What ships are you in where the shippers aren't hoping for more interactions and shilling?>This is pointless because it just ties back to the appeal of Phaidei being the shilling and nothing else.Do you think that I'm talking about the "It's a date"? No, I'm talking about memes such as turning them into roaches, making them Disney characters, and drawing them as Robin's birds, things that have nothing to do with shilling. The fact that you don't even know about them and thought to the regular stuff shows that you have no idea what you're talking about. You have no idea what goes on within the community and are just running your mouth on the surface level stuff. The fact that you cut the statement off before the events, fanart, and fanfiction also confirms that you can't address that stuff they do that is not propped up by hoyoverse.
>>578576446Their own headcanon about characters duh
predictions for robin summeretto? chinks are seethe because sunday NTR'd them in the most recent pv trailer
>brother>ntrdo chinks really
i haven't done an event or story in several monthsi just log in, use my stamina, and log out. and do endgame when it resetsthere's thousands of others like me in pretty much every game, revolving your free time around this slop is the actual abnormal thing here
>>578576578I was talking about characters, but yeah, hoyo has been baiting us with Jarilo-VI part 2 for a long time.
>he didn't take his mother's virginityngmi
>>578577036Honkai: Star Rail is the only thing I have in my boring life
>>578576816>You claimed that Phaidei shippers are not a community because they would disperse without constant updates.It's not analogous, do I need to point that out to you?>Dude, you're talking about my own statements and what I supposedly meant by them.No we're talking about the context of the discussion, anti shilling and no shilling are functionally the same. You want to try to differentiate them when the difference is pointless or miniscule in the context of what is being discussed.>Phaidei would exist regardless of shilling.No it wouldn't because a majority of the fandom subsists off of the shilling. You admitted this later, that the core feature of phaidei is in fact the shilling. So you've already proven my point funnily enough.>things that have nothing to do with shilling.Those things would not exist without the shilling. Do you disagree with this? and all of that is still only a tiny portion of the actual community discussion or interaction.>The fact that you don't even know about them The fact that you're trying to portray robin birds as some secret esoteric phaidei meme is so funny to me lmao, you really just start yapping when you can't engage in a discussion
>>578575190People were talking about how the characters spoke more like normal people in 4.0. When I finally played it, things felt like they were just as bad. When I took a break to play other games, the lack of padding was such a stark difference that I'm shocked anyone puts up with this.
>>578572591What kind of girl sends a bikini pic to her brother
>>578577371yjk
>>578577371It's fanservice to yosuga no sora fags
>>578577371ZZZ fans were making incest ships from day one; that's what happens when you invite ZZZooopos to dinner and the collab character is Robin.
>>578575680My mom is so cool
OH DEAR GOD PLEASE WONT SOMEONE TELL ME MORE ABOUT WHAT THE CHINESE THINK
>>578577676They think you are a Baizuo
>a character who is defined by mostly giving a shit about her brother still cares about her brother even 1-2 years later??? robin is boring as fuck but her magically not giving a shit about faggotday would genuinely be OOC as fuck
>>578577635Why does she hate me?
Preload tonight??
I'll pre my load tonight
>>578577635
>>578577371>no waycute and canon
>>578572854Oh yeah and they killed the Abundance path too
>>578576958Definitvely above the coalburner from zzzIT will be a close call with genshin considering they floppedFGO wins
>>578577270>It's not analogous, do I need to point that out to you?How do you gauge whether something that receives constant updates does or does not have a real community? That is the question.>anti shilling and no shilling are functionally the same.No they are not. Anti-shilling is aimed at destroying the ship while no shilling leaves it alone intact for the shippers to do what they want with it. The anti-shilling destroys the moments that were meaningful to the shippers and that they would still have if the writers just leave the ship alone.>No it wouldn't because a majority of the fandom subsists off of the shilling.>The majoritySo, you know that Phaidei would still exist in a smaller state like I said, but you're just feeling disagreeable. Are you on your period?>Those things would not exist without the shilling. Do you disagree with this?Is your entire attack here just to state the obvious that the community would be smaller without shilling? What are you even trying to prove here? You're admitting here that shippers will step away from canon shilling to make stuff up with the ship to share with each other just like all the other ships do. Are you saying that it doesn't count because they do it while believing they're favored by hoyo? That's just retarded reasoning.>and all of that is still only a tiny portion of the actual community discussion or interaction.Are you in the community to witness this? You are not. I kept asking you why I should believe you know what you're talking about, and all you have to say is stuff that shows you have no idea what the community looks like on the inside. >The fact that you're trying to portray robin birds as some secret esoteric phaidei memeSo you are aware that Phaidei shippers have memes that aren't tied to hoyo shilling. But, like you've established, you believe that if the ship is shilled by hoyo any interactions its fanbase has with it is only because of that shilling. Retarded logic.
>>578565703>yeah we play shart rail around hereDo we?
dead tranny thread
But why iPhone sales?
>>578578959>How do you gauge whether something that receives constant updates does or does not have a real community?Do you understand how server updates and supplementary content are two different things?>No they are not. Yes. They are. Both are the absence of shilling, you've created this distinction in order to create some true negative argument but it doesn't apply because the standard concept is the absence of shilling. No shilling in this context is simply the lack of favorable content. The differences are miniscule within this context because it's not a material physical thing moron.>So, you know that Phaidei would still exist in a smaller state like I saidI said in the beginning the vast majority of you would not even bother with it were it not for the shilling. You can't read kek, this also doesn't make up for the lack of community.>Is your entire attack here just to state the obvious that the community would be smaller without shilling?Is this your new angle? to misrepresent what I'm saying? come back to me when you can properly reiterate my statement.>So you are aware that Phaidei shippers have memes that aren't tied to hoyo shillingThose are an extension of the shilling is my point, you are pointing to the product of shilling and saying it isn't the product of shilling.
>>578579549Same reason we use steam numbersthis shit flopped btw
>>578579549Do you think the goal of sales/shitposters is:A. Find the truthB. Push their own narrative
>>578579837That's a spike of new players right there, and they seem to have decent retention.I'm sure you're aware that Steam is only for new accounts, since the old ones can't sync yet.>>578580439But why use something so nonsensical? And then compare to games are are only on mobile.
>>578579837At least poowa flopped harder
I'm genuinely just stroking my shi rn
>>578580694>I'm sure you're aware that Steam is only for new accounts, since the old ones can't sync yet.hehzzz flopped mate, get over it, china hasn't developed the taste of black people, yet.
>>578580694because if they couldn't find anything then there wouldn't be a shitpost now would there
>>578580851to what
Yao Guang impregnation.
Yuri general
>>578581117BLACKED PORNBLACKED PORNI’M JERKING OFF TO BLACKED PORN
>>578581032at least poowa flopped harder
fuck off mince
>>578581117I did not say ts >>578581321
>>578581506There are a lot of larpers lately
HSR should release on steamalso fix the stupid ass anticheat dawei you nigger
I was joking okay please let me delete the post
>>578579778>Do you understand how server updates and supplementary content are two different things?Answer the fucking question.>Both are the absence of shillingBoth influence how the shippers relate to the ship. You're talking about how I'm judging another ship while being dishonest about what I'm actually judging them on.>this also doesn't make up for the lack of community.I'm sure you know all about it from how you don't engage with it.>you are pointing to the product of shilling and saying it isn't the product of shilling.If someone graduated from college, normal people would tell that person it was due to their own effort while also congratulating their parents on helping them get so far. What you're doing here is akin to to telling them that the only reason they were able to do it was because their parents created and supported them while discrediting all of the personal work they put into the achievement. Phaidei doesn't exist on hoyo's command alone. The ship needed the participation of the shippers to reach its current status. I was also honest about Phaidei being bigger due to the shilling, but you're not honest about the shippers needing to put in the work to get it the engagement it has. Like I said, you can't cope with the fact that life is unfair and some people have advantages, so you have to cope by saying that their dominance while strengthened by those advantages doesn't count. At the end of the day, Phaidei's still the number one ship, the community is still thriving and creating, and we do want more shilling, because that's what a normal shipper wants.
>>578581321
>>578570959>>578571384I imagine the zzz one has a big assThey all flopped compared to the brest one anyway
HSR was a mistake I should have never played this stupid game It ruined my fucking life
FUCK IT WONT LET ME DELETE IT
>>578581321average hertapag
>>578581702acheron got 84 tiktok hours and raiden got 105Acheron got relatively close
>>578581321Uhhhh based? Same btw
>>578581068That's the thing, they don't have anything. It's pure nonsense.They can't even say why iPhone or Steam numbers matter. The former are even made up.
>>578581959How the fuck do you even measure that?
So Pearl beta in 26 hours then? Do you guys think she's gonna do anything actually relevant for elation or is she just gonna be a small upgrade over Huohuo by virtue of doing ANYTHING for SW?
>>578579837I unironically belive that the resident ZZ hater is a tranny. Not in a jokingly "lmao u a tranny" way, but a real one. It makes no sense for someone that hates a game to keep bringing it up all the time out of nowhere in every single thread every single day, this not the behavior of a normal person, be them male or female
>>578582075yes so they just find charts with no context to post, how does this not make sense to you
>>578582471no
>>578582283By being almost 4 days in a row being #1 in the chinese app store
>>578582493It's a poowa jeet straight out of saintontas' community, and it talks shit against NTE, Arknights etc. but not poowa
>>578582493>she hasnt been in /vt/ in the first year of its existence with the one troon who was making multiple threads and samefagging everywhere with seethe and even harassing the bitch on twitter tooits pretty normal, for literal yurotroons and SEAmonkeys
>>578582525Oh wow that sucks
>>578560780dare i say this fight was KINO
>>578582665betas are always 1 day after the update now
>>578581959Raiden made $530M in a month nigga fuck you mean close
>good day bank teller I would like to deposit my tiktok hours>what do you mean leave
>>578579837If you think about it, the urban aesthetic was overrated from the beginning; the fact that the game with the chinkland patch has more active users says a lot.
>>578572854>honkaihypetrain
>>578582793That gacha also has black tier asses btw
>>578582707It's a decent collab, sadly it took HSR one pathetic Fate collab to get things right
fuck collabs as a concept
love collabs as a concept
>>578582757>Shogun makes a trillion dollars>Gets completely shafted in the meta>Acheron makes a trillion dollars>Gets completely shafted in the metaWhy does Mihoyo's ganeplay department hate their greatest hits
>>578583027okay shirou i will fuck rin and saber for your sake
hug collabs as a concept
>>578582707are they gonna have a third one next year?
ganeplay
screw collabs as a concept
>>578583102Acheron clears content to this day
>>578581627>Answer the fucking question.How about you answer whether you at a base can understand what I'm saying?>Both influence how the shippers relate to the ship. You're talking about how I'm judging another ship while being dishonest about what I'm actually judging them on.I'm saying your judgement is a smokescreen and not actually a distinction despite your assertion. If you tell me #c30010 is actually seriously and meaningfully different than #d1001f obviously that is a wrong statement. If you think I'm being bad faith stop crying bitch.>I'm sure you know all about it from how you don't engage with it.appeal to authority fallacy, and a bad one too.> What you're doing here is akin to to telling them that the only reason they were able to do it was because their parents created and supported them while See this comparison is kind of apt but it's funny you think this somehow disproves or delegitimizes my point. The actual one to one connector here would be one child out of many being favored among the parents and then using that favor to belittle the other unfavored children despite not accomplishing much on their own.>Like I said, you can't cope with the fact that life is unfair and some people have advantagesSo you accused me of being a phainaxafag, you were wrong. You accused me of being a phairenefag, you were still wrong. I know you need to try and personalize me since phaideifags have this victim complex where the only people who dislike them are "the enemey phainaxa/phairenefags" who are jealous of their success.I will simply continue to state that your fandom is pathetic and has no foundation that is not already preapproved by hoyoverse, and you have acknowledge this multiple times. You have no imagination, no color coordinating birds and fucking rapenon memes are not a community. Every AU, every altverse, everything the phaidei fandom has comes from either hoyo merch or promotional material KEK
>>578582853>It's a decent collab>didn't get nominated to the biggest mobile awards show
>>578582793So, is that guy going to post WuWa's chart next? It's supposed to be the right example of a good game according to him.
>>578583271I fvarkin kneel Tom and Jerry....
>>578583271It happened too late in the year
>>578583271Sounds like mihoyo didn't pay the awards host enough money to get nominated.
>>578583271>Bangkok, ThailandNo wonder I've never heard of this award
>>578583271>honor of kangz had shingeki no kyojinFUAAAAAAAAAAARRKKKK
>>578583271That is bullshit. I've played Acecraft and that collab definitely doesn't deserve any spot there nor their following collab with Bugs Bunny & Daffy Duck.
>>578583402they nominated snezhnaya and that just started last week...
>>578583102>Acheron makes a trillion dollarsAcheron didn't even make more than launch month much less what Raiden Shogun made
>>578583650Did they? The image I saw nominated 6.0
>>578583283i was actually referring to Where Winds Meet, but if you mention poowa it fits too. steam is a predominantly US community, shouldn't steam be supporting urban slop?
>>578583271>>578583619this. most of the collabs are shit>CoD x The Boys collab>after the trainwreck of S5
>>578583930>game that only supports steam disingenuous
ZZZ is slandering HSR again...
9 layers of protection wouldn't stop cerydra from getting me pregnant
>>578584121Where Winds Meet has a standalone PC launcher and client directly from NetEase.
>>578584290calm down Helektra
>>578584290Wow I had no idea female sea sirens could get people pregnant
>>578584338that dude refuses to admit that ZZZ and NTE flopped so hard. that game was updated on August 20th with patch 2.1 and it blew ZZZ/NTE out of the water. the urban open world designed for black people is simply unpopular in steam
>>578571728Take the game back to when 100k was jaw dropping damage. 700k on SKILL is chump change nowadays. Do new players even go through resource famines anymore? There was a time when credits were so scarce you had to hunt mobs in the over world and beg for people to use your support in calyx runs
>>578584145
>>578584556gta 6 is designed for black people and it's the most popular game in human history
>>578584556Wouldn't it make more sense that Steam failed to attract an audience to their launcher?I still don't see why that particular platform is so important.And your golden example has low current numbers, too. All it had was a bigger launch.
>>578584830where does she hide it?
>>578584881She doesn'tShe got a BBL since she heard big asses are popular among the brown and black folk so she needs to look good to, as the zoomers say, "make those cheeks clap"
>>578584830I thought that was bibian on the thumbnail
>>578584972AYO? THAT HO IS FINE AS FUCK
>>578583215>How about you answerAnswer the fucking question.>I'm saying your judgement is a smokescreenThere's a reason I make a distinction. Anti-shilling can destroy a community while no shilling gives it space. Have you ever shipped a pairing where the creators revealed they were blood related? If you did, you would know the difference.>appeal to authority fallacyYou're talking about a community that you don't engage with. It's obvious that you aren't knowledgeable on the subject.>despite not accomplishing much on their own.Phaidei has over 100k submissions on Lofter and over 10k fics on AO3. Did Hoyoverse do that? Somehow, "not accomplishing much on its own", is synonymous with outperforming all of their contemporaries.>you accused me of being a phainaxafag, you were wrong. You accused me of being a phairenefag...I never did that... Are you off your meds? I asked you what you shipped, you said you didn't ship hoyo stuff, and I let that be established.>I will simply continue to statethat Phaidei won and all you can do is cope. Everyone wanted shilling and hoyoverse gave it to us. Then we took that and turned it into the number one hoyoverse ship even against the odds when most chinese shippers preferred twinks. Meanwhile, all you can do is bitch about Phaidei shippers doing things that everyone else does, but more successfully and in greater numbers.
Playing HSR is promoting trans rights
>>578583149They better. I want my free Gil eidolon
zoomers don't say that anymore
>>578584861>Wouldn't it make more sense that Steam failed to attract an audience to their launcher?Just like their game failed to attract a paying audience to their game
>>578584145SAAAR PLEASE DON'T LIKE THE COLLAB SAAAR IT'S A POPULAR OPINION YOU DON'T KNOW HSR BUT PLEASE BE ANGRY SAAAR PLAY WUWA
why does ZZZ always become this general favorite pacifier?
>>578585153yes
>>578585345switch hsr w zzz and we have every brown in this thread
>>578584619I'm a y1 player and and I still have no relic exp to level that shitOnly basics like credits getting unlimited and that's good
>>578585301Your own numbers say otherwise.
>>578584830How will our Astra look? She's supposed to be around as tall as Phainon with her high heels.Will the devs step up and give us a tall lady?
>>578585345>wuwa out of nowhere
No going to retard whatever the retards in this thread are arguing about. Someone just tell me if I should pull Robin or not. I have 180 saved up rolls right now. I also really want to get Pearl for my SW team.
Do y'all only talk about sales here?
>>578585657lol they're not gonna put any effort into the blacked tier ass collab they know it's gonna flop
>>578585530THESE numbers?>>578585657They have two optionsThey turn her into a proper lady and give her a nice prim outfitOr they give her a massive black tier ass black swan style and watch her flop even harderWhatever they do that collab is dead on arrival
>blacked tier ass
You people have no idea how much I want a Herta puppet harem, why are Hertas so fucking sexy
>>578585146>Answer the fucking question.Do you understand how server updates and supplementary content are two different things?>There's a reason I make a distinction. Anti-shilling can destroy a community while no shilling gives it space.That reason isn't legitimate at all because it still has little to do with the core function of the discussion. Functionally anti-shilling and no shilling are still the same and have the same mechanisms to break down fandom spaces if they don't have authentic interest around the. It's funny you bring up blood relation because if anything that counters your own attempted distinction.>You're talking about a community that you don't engage with.Appeal to authority fallacy, and still a bad one. Especially when a fandom is not something that requires expertise to make value judgements based on. It's not fucking STEM subject kek.>Phaidei has over 100k submissions on Lofter and over 10k fics on AO3. Did Hoyoverse do that?...Yes retard, do you seriously not understand that Phaideis popularity and fandom would not exist were it not for the shilling by hoyoverse? you like Phaidei because Hoyo told you it is okay to like Phaidei. You can see this replicated in every other Hoyo approved shipping, you all spawn from the same incestuous zoomer validation cycle, it's just more cancerous with nu-jos.Your pointing to the success that exists because of the shill and saying it exists without the shill, what?>...I never did that... Are you off your meds?You did several times kek, you're bad at being subtle but go on and pretend.>that Phaidei won and all you can do is cope.And with this I win, this is all it comes back to. Phaidei won because Hoyoverse approves and shills it. That's all I've been saying and that's all you lot will ever appeal to and have. You are paper tigers that exist at the whim of Hoyoverse, there is not a creative or original bone in your fandoms body. Thanks for confirming that kek.
And then I woke up
>>578586063Yes, the one thing you can get out of the iPhone numbers is that new players are still coming to the game. Since it's very much not a game you want to play on mobile, a lot of them are likely to change platform over time.
>>578586018we are 90% jeets that are obsesed w nigger dick and ofc numbers, we only talk about the game on betas or when new patches drop
How does Robikini show off so much skin and still look less soft than my Nessie
>>578586063You still haven't answered my question.>>578570624
>>578586018No, we also talk about interracial cuckolding and yaoi sometimes
>>578586018And ass.
we should talk about bibian
>>578586494
Did they show Caelus crying as well or is it a Stelle-only thing?
>>578586340Robin is hard af and got shot like an og rapper
>>578586839He also cries with a blush
>>578586839
>>578586615Bibianbwo...she got Bibicrept by King Bibi...>>578586881>>578586904hot...
Why do I feel like the chances of a story trace are becoming more and more grim…
>>578586983he wont, if he get one he destroy sparxie
Stelle worked better as the MC in this scene.
Is the preload today?
>>578586615I heard she went on a trip recently
>>578586904real men cry
How long does it take to do the Fate 2 story? I may have slacked a bit too hard.
Swannie...
>>578587032Kakavasha already supplanted Xie in every conceivable way. EMC just needs the original speed buffer back, or at least something for personal damage
>>578587332Around 2 hours if you skip everything
>>578586615Bibian keeps getting cucked by the new agents that are canonically raping Phaethon-sama...
>>578586615I thought the cuckboat scene was mean
These waiting periods are brutal without the leakers sharing kits early. Such a shame we lost all the good ones and only clout chasing retards remain.
If you had your very own Herta puppet, what would you do with her
>>578587784Ask her to bake me a cake
>>578586143>Do you understandYou are obsessing over the analogy to avoid the question. Answer the fucking question.>Functionally anti-shilling and no shilling are still the same and have the same mechanisms to break down fandom spacesDo you think running over a deer vs letting it die of old age are the same thing?>if anything that counters your own attempted distinction.How?>Appeal to authority fallacyI don't think you actually know what that means. You're the one trying to claim that you know something and should be some authority. If anything, you the one trying to be some authority while I'm the one rejecting that.>Especially when a fandom is not something that requires expertise to make value judgements based on.You're trying to talk about the inner workings of a community while having nor personal experience with the inner workings of that community. You're just full of shit.>you like Phaidei because Hoyo told you it is okay to like Phaidei.I suppose I also like Jingren because hoyo told me to. Why am I disinterested in Ratiorine or Renheng when hoyo told me to like them? Must be a bug. Like I said, you cope and can't accept that the shippers have any autonomy in how they engage with a ship.>You did several timesQuote it.>And with this I win, this is all it comes back to. Phaidei won because Hoyoverse approves and shills it.So your idea of winning is someone else getting everything they and everyone else wants and reveling in it? Well thank, I didn't know you were that generous.
>>578587784Find the off button
>we won>you losthow come this didn't get meme'd...
>>578587523>>578587665WHAT
>>578587784Not sex. Herta still has remote access to them and would see you doing nasty shit to her puppets.
>>578588268I’ve posted this multiple threads already
>Castorice gives us a ring in 3.2>That it is never mentioned again>Cyrene comes out in 3.7 rocking some kind of ring that the animations put great emphasis on >Never explainedExplain
>>578586143>Your pointing to the success that exists because of the shill and saying it exists without the shill, what?I'm not, you illiterate. I'm saying that hoyoverse is not the only one responsible for the success. Did you not read the college analogy. It was the combined efforts of the parents and the students that achieved that level of success. The shippers do contribute to the ship. Hoyo doesn't just snap their fingers and make all of that fanwork appear out of nowhere.
>>578588476anon we are rich
>>578588436To each their own, I'd make sure The Herta felt cucked by one of her own puppets
>>578588476Pagbait is cheap. You don't need to destroy the lore or degrade the character further to explain pagbaiting because the target audience will lap up shallow pandering regardless.
PHAINON IS STRAIGHT!MYDEI IS GAY!
>>578587137she mad
>>578588449Ahh bros Stelle's so cute
>>578586153and then SMOOOCH
>>578588692>>578588449>cute>can't see her face????
>>578588692...until she tries to rape you
lygus helmet > mem hat
>>578587857>You are obsessing over the analogy to avoid the question. Answer the fucking question.Well the substance of the analogy changes the entire question. You understand that the context of a question is important right? or is all you know how to do is little high school level debate club gotchas lol.>Do you think running over a deer vs letting it die of old age are the same thing?Not comparable or analogous, you're trying to draw a distinction between proactive vs passive action. Yes those two things are different, but is there a substantial difference within the context of shipping is what we're talking about. Jesus christ you can't even do bad faith loaded hypotheticals right you retard. You keep losing your own point as you try and construct dogshit thought twisters.>How?The context invalidates the distinction as a functional modifier.>I don't think you actually know what that means.You are trying to claim I lack the authority or experience to speak on a subject that has zero barrier of entry to actually speak competently on or assert perspective on.>You're trying to talk about the inner workings of a community while having nor personal experience with the inner workings Do you think an appeal to authority only works if it's strictly an institutional position?>Why am I disinterested in Ratiorine or Renheng when hoyo told me to like them?Because Hoyoverse never did this for exact reasons you are trying to make the anti/no shilling distinction. Holy shit you're such a massive retard man. How do you live with such cognitive dissonance.>So your idea of winning is someone else getting everything they and everyone else wants and reveling in it?No my version of winning is you acknowledging what I have been saying since the very beginning and being too stupid to realize that's what you've been doing.>HOYO APPROVED I WIN I WIN I WIN SEE I WON I DON'T NEED HOYOVERSE APPROVAL TO BE HAPPY!!!I really hope you didn't pay for a college degree.
>>578588709
>>578588993
>>578588815Hot but Caelus being taller holding Stelle like that and looking down is better
>>578588476they really really like the ring of recurrence
>>578589032
>>578588993Where's the cock?
>>578589087The strongest
Total Madam Herta love
>>578588476Kek this dude cant interpret anything
Is it weird that I want to be Fu Xuan
>>578588539>I'm not, you illiterate.You are, I'm assuming you realized and then hackjobbed this awful response. I've already told you your college analogy works in my favor because in both instances, yes a child's accomplishments do not exist without their parents support. I don't know why you think you cooked with this.Furthermore if a parent provides more pound for pound support for one child than another and the supported child succeeds over the others. That once again bolsters my statement. At best you can never say the child would succeed without the parents stringent support, at worse you could assume the child would fail the same as the rest.You did not think this thought experiment out very thoroughly did you?
Just hid bta talking to himself again what are you guys up to?
>>578589186
>>578588993>oh damn a hot Stelle cosplayer let me see mo->so fucking ugly that I sincerely can't say if it's a tranny or notfor fucks sake
>>578589432Nothing much, just being horny over the idea of being Fu Xuan
>>578589456omg I was about to post that Firefly pic too uuuu
>>578589543that's why our serbiansis mogs
>>578589657>>578589657I am in your wallsalso holy milk
>>578589662who
>>578589734@yiddyhari
>>578589708hmhm
>>578589213herta get new fingers
>>578589869naughty naughty
>>578589909Serbian boys look like this????
>>578588268Planarcadia story is simply not as engaging, not even the resident shill plays it.
Only planarcadia kings got this peak while playing it
>CutestLoom>PrettiestStelle>SexiestBelleProve me wrong
>>578590087Reminder that Stelle, out of the 3 protags, is the only one that's canonically underage.And somehow she's also the tallest...
>>578590087I picked Caelus
>>578588978>WellYou really have no answer to the question. I'll just be filling that in as, "I'm full of shit">proactive vs passive actionYes.>there a substantial differenceNo there isn't.>that has zero barrier of entryBarrier to entry is irrelevant. Do you know the plot of a F2P game you've never played just because it has no barrier to entry? There needs to be a level of investment or time commitment that shows you know what you're talking about on the subject.>Because Hoyoverse never did this for exact reasons you are trying to make the anti/no shilling distinction.No, it's because I'm just not interested in their dynamics. Also, you're the one who said that I only liked Phaidei because hoyo told me it was okay and that Ratiorine and Renheng had Hoyo's approval.>>578570736>Whether it's renheng or ratpiss or faelight or haikaveh, you toddlers can't exist without hoyoverse approvalSee that? It's a quote. Something I noticed you didn't give me after you accussed me of saying you were a Phairene and Phainaxa shipper.>you acknowledging what I have been saying since the very beginning and being too stupid to realize that's what you've been doing.You're whole shtick here is predicated on the idea that I'm supposed to feel shame over the shilling being a big part of why Phaidei is so big. I don't really care since it's a worthless thing to be defensive over (though what I do care about is discrediting what the Phaidei community did with that advantage). Everyone wanted this. You're not going to convince me that this is something I'm supposed to feel bad about.
porn obsessed general
>>578590267So you can fuck all 3...
>>578590375Dont look in zzz or gig
>>578589924omg bweh>>578590074
>>578590074me and myy baobao btw>>578590432I wanst sure if it was you
>>578590483me and aggysis...
>>578590432Stelle isn't this stacked...she has cute modest breasts...
>>578590483me off screen watching anon and aggysis
>>578590478dum me
>>578590565cute you
>>578589324>yes a child's accomplishments do not exist without their parents supportYou did not understand the analogy. A child can exist without their parents, but parents cannot exist without a child. That's just common sense. There are plenty of people who go to college or life without parents. Like the analogy, a fandom can accomplish things without shilling, but shilling is worthless without a fandom that wants to pick it up. Hoyoverse helped the Phaidei ship grow tremendously with their shilling, but they could not snap their fingers and make all of that fanwork appear out of nowhere. The Phaidei fanbase itself put in a lot of work to bring the ship to its current position.
>>578590618yupyup>>578590546holy milkers
>>578590270>You really have no answer to the question. I'll just be filling that in as, "I'm full of shit"You were going to draw your own conclusion. That's the point of the gotcha question. Which is why you won't answer about whether you know the actual bedrock difference.>Yes.Except for in the context of SHIPPING which is what we're talking about. You understand a comparison only works if there is a foundational agreement of what the two things are right? like you can make a broad comparison about anything under your own retarded standards.Which is why I'm saying functionally your standard is useless because it's too broad and too generalized.>Barrier to entry is irrelevant.Barrier of entry is directly relative to your argument though LOL your entire argument hinges on the fact that there is some arbitrary quota I am have not fulfilled. Are you okay?>See that? It's a quote. Something I noticed you didn't give me after you accussed me of saying you were a Phairene and Phainaxa shipper.What do you think the implication was of you asking me what I shipped after bringing up phainaxa and phairene?I know you won't be good faith and admit it.>You're whole shtick here is predicated on the idea that I'm supposed to feel shame over the shillingNo one cares what you feels, you take it personal, I am mocking you because the foundation that you worship is no different than the other people that mock.You're all just sheep waiting and hoping for hoyoverse to acknowledge you.See>HOYO APPROVED I WIN I WIN I WIN SEE I WON I DON'T NEED HOYOVERSE APPROVAL TO BE HAPPY!!!This how all Phaideifags are. This is what I mean, that is why it's pathetic watching you gloat. I know you personally won't feel shame as you get offended. You have no ability to self reflect or self criticize you're a 4channer. It's obvious you have some sort of mental deficiency especially if you're a shipper.
I don't know why but Asat being a legitimately doting father just cracks me up
>>578590375>plays pornstar rail>surprised people like porn
>>578590691>A child can exist without their parentsBy this, I mean that a child can accomplish things without parental support, not that someone can spawn in without any parents whatsoever.
>>578582707I have train attack fatigue
>>578590834I hope he keeps showing up, he was really entertaining
>>578590721
>>578590834Grandpa's a funny guy
>>578590960https://x.com/Arcachii/status/2091510770328568127?s=20
Honestly, Wolf texting you as soon as Glühwürmschen woke up was very sweet and familial. Dan Heng wouldn’t even bother telling Welt if he was about to die from the Xianzhouna virus
>>578591082nice nice
this kusoge is so dead chart anon hasn't updated the clear chart. RIP chart anon.
stephen fuck this???https://x.com/spoiled_softie/status/2091272258211750376?s=20
>>578591267
>>578591379>check archives>only the first batch was made and not updated since the 18th>he said he also missed a whole threadthanks floparcadia
>>578590691>>578590862I fully understand it, you don't understand your own hypothetical. Fundamentally you are making a merits argument when what we're talking about the correlation of two things.This is what I mean when I said you trip over yourself to try and get gotchas.You're equating fandom output with the merits of a child when the structure of the hypothetical is making a value judgement based on the efforts of the parent. In both instances we're acknowledging that a childs merits do not exist without a parents efforts.To put it simply a parents efforts are necessary and sufficient, while the childs merits are not necessary but can be sufficient. In this same way the shilling is necessary and sufficient, therefore the fandoms output will be sufficient even if they are not necessary.How are you having trouble following such basic ass logic chains. You're trying to twist a value based argument into some morale based ethics conversation on the ownership of merits.
>>578591487
>>578589016lore accurate march 7th
how do i get a cosplayer gf
>>578590819>You were going to draw your own conclusion.You leave open silence, someone else will fill it. That what you accept when you don't answer questions.>you can make a broad comparisonYes you can. Not my fault you can't understand it.>Barrier of entry is directly relative to your argument though LOL your entire argument hinges on the fact that there is some arbitrary quota I am have not fulfilled.Yes. Barrier to entry is not important. What is important is that you actually engage with what you're talking about to understand it.>What do you think the implication was of you asking me what I shipped after bringing up phainaxa and phairene?So you misread what I said, was too embarrassed to quote it, and was hoping I wouldn't bring it up. We were talking about punching down on ships, so I brought up ships that Phaidei punches down own. Me asking you what you shipped was me trying to not make an assumption.>No one cares what you feelsYeah you do. You want me to feel stupid for saying something that you want when the reason that I said it was that I decided I don't really care about the standards you're trying to set and will go against it. Why should I play by your games?>This how all Phaideifags are.Rightfully so, because we get things that everyone else wants. We deserve to gloat.
>>578591713It's honestly comical how ugly these cosplayers' faces are
>>578591772be you the cosplayer gf
>>578591772By replying "Built for THAT" to images on /hsrg/
>>578591571
Damn, phaideifags got obliterated this thread
>>578591713Built for THAT
I still haven't played most of Planarcadia's story, or done any of the events in this patch with 2 days left. I should probably just uninstall
>>578591921Give me the tldr. im too lazy to read hours of garbage.
>>578591917
>>578591862
>>578592032we know you dont play the game blade pol spammer
>>578591713Not even THEY would be interested in this one
>>578592036Same heret. Phaideifag
>>578591862Anon wants a real cosplayer gf (female, first world), not a cosplayer gf from /hsrg/ (male, third world)
>>578592105I'm not that guy, that retard doesn't own Blade, just like the blackedcucks don't own Cerydra or Hyacine. I'm just posting random shit from my folder
Loving sex with Cipher
>>578592219I have filtered phaidei on pc so seeing that while taking a dump made me curious, only to scroll up and seeing it's hours of yap. I would rather go watch a movie.
>>578591921Not even gonna bother with the guy going against it since his premise is pretty retarded, good luck to the sister still humoring him tho
>>578591778>You leave open silence, someone else will fill it.Nope I clearly asked you to engage and specify and you chose not to because you understand that generalities are all you have.You don't actually have any substantive talking points.>Yes you can. Not my fault you can't understand it.Broad comparisons are pointless when we're talking about contextual specification. Also you just acknowledge the point of your statement is to overly broad, meaning functionally they have no utility to actually expression a concept kek.>Yes. Barrier to entry is not important. What is important is that you actually engage with what you're talking about to understand it.You just described the importance and necessity of the barrier again lol.>So you misread what I said, was too embarrassed to quote it, and was hoping I wouldn't bring it up.No, I understood what you said. Which is why you're trying to obfuscate about it now because you understand what it is was you were trying to imply. It's obvious you were probing me with the implication of tying me to one of your "enemy" ships.>Yeah you do.No, like I said phaideifags have this weird victim complex that everyone is out to get them. I know you guys don't ever engage in actual discussion and just circle jerk the same 7 talking points over and over again. If you were capable of feeling shame you'd have suicided by now. I just enjoy pointing out how you're still eating from the same slop all the other people you make fun of are.>Rightfully so, because we get things that everyone else wants. We deserve to gloat.I mean yeah man, you guys are approved by hoyoverse, unlike the other monkey shit eaters with their small empty bowls your monkey shit bowl is topped up.
>>578592068
>>578592371
>>578592314I went back like to read like first 4 posts about it and apparently is somehow butthurt about phaideifujos gloating they have content or something.Weird
>>578591543>In both instances we're acknowledging that a child's merits do not exist without a parents efforts.That's the opposite of what I said. Are you sure you don't want to take your meds?>a parents efforts are necessary and sufficientHow do you explain ships that spawn and spread without shilling if shilling is supposed to be necessary. You yourself said that ships used to to flourish without shilling, so I'm not sure why your saying that shilling is neccessary for a ship to spawn.>the fandoms output will be sufficient even if they are not necessary.Are you actually saying that the fandom's output is not necessary? Where does the engagement come from if the fandom does not produce an output? It comes from nowhere. The ship dies and hoyo stops shilling it.
>>578592442So, not worth. Alright
>>578592395
>>578592560
>>578592303Why would we cucks own cerydra or hyacine
How long does the fateslop collab take? Can I finish it in one sitting?
>>578592584
>>578592303Mince broke you
>>578592767
>>578592824
>>578592645Im curious too. think ill just spam skip
>>578592897
>>5785926453-4 hours
>>578592495>How do you explain ships that spawn and spread without shilling if shilling is supposed to be necessary. We're talking about This. Specific. Group. Of. Ships. Why are you so incapable of staying on topic?>Are you actually saying that the fandom's output is not necessary?The fandoms output is not necessary in the case of almost all nu-fujo hoyoships. It can be a sufficient factor but it is not necessary to the "success" of the ship. >The ship dies and hoyo stops shilling it.Both of those occur if Hoyo does not shill it. That outcome is predetermined by Hoyo shilling it not from the output. Shilling is directly correlative to output for hoyoships because hoyo nu-fujos don't ship anything that isn't shilled. This is why Shill is both necessary and sufficient while output is not.
>>578592927Why do guys act like that?
>>578592961uhhhhhh>>578592927uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>578593081act?
>>578592645I spammed skip and it's like an hour and half to get all jades
>>578588476>ashveil gets the power of equal to an emanator of voracity that can even kill immortal beings>That it is never mentioned again
>>578592927doesn't look very fun>>578593093
>>578593335THEY know he has to be nerfed for the plot to happen HE IS THE STRONGEST
>>578590375We are literally one of the healthiest generals when it comes to porn spamming
>>578592340>Nope I clearly asked you to engageYou made a claim, I asked you to explain with an analogy, you got hung up on the analogy, and now you refuse to answer the question. That's as simple as it gets.>the point of your statementThe point of the analogies is to make things simpler to understand. You're just an autist who can't get them for some reason.>You just described the importance and necessity of the barrier againHoly shit. You spoke about how pidi is a subject that has no barrier so you shouldn't have to prove you know what you're talking about, I talk about how the important part is engagement, but because I said that the barrier wasn't important, you cling to that instead when the important part is how you don't know what your talking about because you don't engage with the community. What the fuck is wrong with you?>No, I understood what you said.Yeah, that's why you completely misunderstood it.>just circle jerk the same 7 talking points over and over again.Just on 4chan because this is a shitposting site. Twitter gets tons of other content for the community to engage with.>monkey shit eaters with their small empty bowlsIts on them to supply themselves with content. That how ships work.
>>578593335>Boothill has a massive beef with IPC>Never mentioned again and white possibly retconned the setup for it too
>>578593335I liked how they had him clearing debris during this patch. They didn't even try to convincingly write out the supporting characters from the story this time around
Test
>>578593374
>>578593649sovl
>>578593335>headcanon
>>578593335>>That it is never mentioned againWhat’s there to say?
>>578593670
>>578593478I'm 80% sure it did get mentioned again at some point. And his vendetta is against Oswaldo, it's not like he's out to kill every IPC member either.
why is no one hyped for the preload
>>578593790
>>578593451>You made a claim, I asked you to explain with an analogy, you got hung up on the analogyWait why are you acting like specifying the analogy is a bad thing? you understand what clarity is right? it's kind of weird you seem so obsessed with not having clear statements be elaborated upon.>The point of the analogies is to make things simpler to understand.You don't do that with broad analogies or comparisons you retard. Using broad statements makes something more difficult to understand because it reduces the separation between topics. Objectively the utility of a comparison needs to be strictly apt and pertaining to what it is comparing without being one to one. If I ask you how to change my cars gas and you tell me it's like pouring water into a cup. Yes that's a broad descriptive statement that kind of maps on to the process but you wouldn't say that is actually useful information to me.But that's probably your point, you don't actually want a clear and constructive dialogue or to engage. You just want to spout off narratives and bullet points that you think makes your point sound really really good.>Holy shit. You spoke about how pidi is a subject that has no barrier so you shouldn't have to prove you know what you're talking aboutThe statement is about the engagement with fandom communities, are you actually retarded? you're saying I need to be intricately participating in fandom communities to be able to speak on them. This is what I mean by barrier holy shit. Engagement is a form of barrier standard you're using without once again defining it when you don't need to be engaged to understand fandom dynamics or speak on them.>Twitter gets tons of other content for the community to engage with.Yes from hoyo shilling.>Its on them to supply themselves with content. That how ships work.You're all eating shit, I'm not sure why you're acting like I contest that they don't eat shit just because their bowls are empty. You are all shit eaters.
I didn't know that Sigga was also into Sparkle ryona
>>578593335fully unleashing it probably kill other people around him according to his backstory, at low output he can only eat weak goons like the rangers
>>578593113yes, "act" like that
>>578593037>We're talking about This. Specific. Group. Of. Ships.Is there supposed to be something special about hoyo ships that require new rules to be applied to them? Nah, I reject that premise. The same fujos who ship hoyo pairings will go and ship pairings of other properties without anything stopping them.>it is not necessary to the "success" of the shipAnd what do you define as the success of a ship that does not require fandom output?>because hoyo nu-fujos don't ship anything that isn't shilledHow do you explain Sampard, Galladay, or Jingren? These were all ships that got a lot of attention while not being shilled much. You don't having to convince me that shilling amplifies a ship. What you're not convincing me of is the idea that the fandom doesn't matter to the end result.
Shipping is serious business
>>578594417I dont even get what they are talking about and I'm a shipper
>>578593912
>>578594548menu
>>578594417You are playing Honkai: Sexuality & Relationships
>>578594583
>>578594740
This is kinda fucked up. I feel like I just lobotomized him
>>578594779wowow
So from this thread, /hsrg/ loves homosexual ships and loves discussing about it
>>578594780You can still fix him so it's more like a reversible botched surgery
>>578594085>Wait why are you acting like specifying the analogy is a bad thing?Because you're using it to distract from the question being asked so you don't have to answer it. I get it, you have difficulties understanding how to respond to analogies. >This is what I mean by barrier holy shit.See what I mean by you having trouble with analogies? I used an analogy of a F2P game to help you understand where I was setting the barrier and you did not understand that for so long. It's almost frightening.>Yes from hoyo shilling.Everyone wants the hoyo shilling. You're not turning it into a bad thing.>You are all shit eaters.What is this? You approach me chiding me for having a superiority complex, but it seems like you just wanted the nu-jos to bow before their senior. If that's what you wanted, why didn't you just ask for it? Unfortunately, you've been kind of a swamp hag, so I don't think I'd give it to you.
>>578594868
>>578594346>Is there supposed to be something special about hoyo ships that require new rules to be applied to them? Nah, I reject that premise.Of course you would reject the premise, your entire methodology and logic is contingent on making broad appeals to muddy what we're talking about. Objectively the dynamics in hoyoslop nu-fujo ships are different. Almost entirely owing to how hoyo staggers content compared to other gacha games and media. Hoyoslop nu-fujos are a mutated variant of the shonen nu-fujo.>And what do you define as the success of a ship that does not require fandom output?Obviously engagement that is not contingent on simply art or media output.>How do you explain Sampard, Galladay, or Jingren? These were all ships that got a lot of attention while not being shilled much.Nigger is just straight up lying now, no one ever ships or cared about those flops. What fucking crack pipe are you deep throating to say Galladay was fucking ever embraced widely by the fandom.
hachimi chimichi
genuinely might have to go back to genshin. I cant believe how far this game has fallen. I still had like 600 rolls saved, mght even be able t catch up to meta there, LOL!
>>578595258
>those three fujofags are still arguing semantics
>>578595320
the concept of fuboli
>>578595406
>>578595084Best post itt
Aaand another md5 filtered
>>578595475
>>578595538boobin
They hated him because he told the truth.
>>578595148>Because you're using it to distract from the question being asked so you don't have to answer it.I am asking you for clarity, why don't you want to make clear statements? do you not want to actually have a back and forth? is your only goal rhetorical magic tricks?>See what I mean by you having trouble with analogies?Stop. Do you genuinely not understand how barrier is being defined in this conversation?>Everyone wants the hoyo shilling. You're not turning it into a bad thing.You see how you need to morally load every statement? it's because you're incredibly defensive about your own reasoning. Whether you think something is good or bad to me is completely irrelevant. I'm making statements on bot the hypocrisy of the application of your logic, as well as the complete cognitive dissonance your commentary espouses. Not once have I needed to use "bad" or "good" to define these things. Haven't even needed to use "Shame" or other things.>What is this? You approach me chiding me for having a superiority complex, but it seems like you just wanted the nu-jos to bow before their senior.Since the start I've just been pointing out hypocrisy, double standards and inconsistencies.>you've been kind of a swamp hagReally not beating the "you must be an x" conclusion anon. Phaideifags really cannot live with conflicting opinions that force them to think
>>578595635
>>578595512If it's about the person I think it is, why not just filter the words they use instead, they're very repetitive
>Almost entirely owing to how hoyo staggers content compared to other gacha games and media.I've seen manga fujos wait months for their ships to interact again. Nah, I reject the premise.>engagement that is not contingent on simply art or media output.So the stuff no one cares about. Got it.>Nigger is just straight up lying now, no one ever ships or cared about those flops.So what you're saying is that you really don't know anything about hoyo shipping culture that you're trying to talk about. Jingren currently has the 7th most fics on AO3, Sampard had a ton of popularity early on despite them never appearing on screen together, and Galladay was Sunday's top ship. And you're trying to claim that no one cared about them. You just don't know anything that doesn't reach 4chan, do you?
>>578595931
>I don't ship hoyotrash>posts sandbina
https://jcomic.net/page/%E3%80%90%E5%8E%84%E6%95%8C%E3%80%91%E6%99%9A%E5%AE%89%E5%A4%AA%E9%98%B3%7CA%E3%81%8A%E3%82%84%E3%81%99%E3%81%BF%E5%A4%AA%E9%99%BD
>>578596104
>>578596170
>>578596149I'm glad hsr fujos learned to scan during Phaidei
>>578596294my babies..
>>578596402
>arguing with fujos unironicallythe fuck is wrong with you niggers
>>578596101>I've seen manga fujos wait months for their ships to interact again. Nah, I reject the premise.So you also don't understand what staggered or live service content is. You sure you wanna engage in this conversation? you seem pretty ignorant about very basic concepts.>So the stuff no one cares about. Got it.So wait you think actual fandom engagement is meaningless unless it's direct media output? don't you love AO3 and lofter pidiflyfag?>So what you're saying is that you really don't know anything about hoyo shipping culture that you're trying to talk about. Jingren currently has the 7th most fics on AO3pidifly fujo, I get it, you love AO3 and lofter and all of these retarded websites. That's totally irrelevant to this fantasy you've concocted where Galladay or fucking Jingren were top top ships comparable to phaidei or something. I have no idea why you're blatantly lying like that.>>578596123Thank you for eloquently demonstrating my point. Literally couldn't have asked for a better example.
>>578572591holy mindbroken
>>578596508The embarrassing thing is that he is losing
>>578596504
>>578596604Chicken wing squad
>>578595909>hypocrisy of the application of your logicThere is no hypocrisy or double standard or cognitive dissonance. I told you in the beginning that there is no honor in shipping culture and that I will be the one punched down on eventually. I don't expect to be treated differently when my ship is not the one shilled because I don't believe the arena is fair. Maybe you're projecting something onto me that I don't actually feel or believe.>Not once have I needed to use "bad" or "good"This is why I called you an autist.>Really not beating the "you must be an x" conclusion anon.Was that supposed to be a goal of mine? It seems you've set up some loss and win conditions for me that I have no incentives to care about.
>>578596698kfc
>accuses the other party of trying to find a boogeyman>immediately brings up his own boogeyman to the conversation
Robin trailer in 40 minutes?
Can I get a qrd
>>578596906The music video for Robin's hit new single
>>578596538np, thanks for the you
I’ve sunk months and MONTHS worth of fuel into EAGLE and HP sets and LUSHAKA and I have NOTHING GOOD for ANYBODY ELSE
I'm not autistic enough for these gay ass long-winded arguments, I don't know how you people have the energy for it
>>578596776Thinking about some chinese plastic model kit right now
>>578596884sorry i have aids and my post was meant for>>578596538also>thinking the local tranny can write that muchyou give the piditroon too much merit.
>>578596149Take responsibility for the psychological damage you inflicted on these retards
>>578597053what is it about?
>>578597162It looks cool. That’s all.
>>578597128Is that autist angry that hoyo panders to fujos? I got lost when they talked about honor in shipping or something
>>578597254hmm.. I only know those by some of my friends but they havent talked about it anymore
>>578597367
>>578597128i dindu nuffin but post pidi
>>578597438
>>578596538>pidifly fujo, I get itIs that who you though I was. Nah, I don't really have a general moniker.>So you also don't understand what staggered or live service content is. You sure you wanna engage in this conversation? you seem pretty ignorant about very basic concepts.Look, you've been talking in a pretentious esoteric way that's obviously not meant to be engaging but to sound smart. If you want to be understood, you'll write like it.>Galladay or fucking Jingren were top top ships comparable to phaideiI never said that. All I said was that they got a lot of attention. You're seriously calling me out for looking down on other ships while acting like their failures if they don't reach Phaidei levels? No, these were all successful ships for what they were working with and all had large communities for their times.
>>578596713>There is no hypocrisy or double standard or cognitive dissonance.I've already pointed it out. Let me list them again.1. Your ship and its fandom would not exist without shilling. You have admitted this. Despite this and despite openly valuing shilling above actual dynamics you still assert that fandom output can substantively exist without shilling.2. You instinctively apply a moral foundation to shipping "bad or good" framing, you do this by maligning ships that under your own ethics are producing content in a way that you ought to be supportive of as they adhere to your core premise. Yet you clearly malign and resent them.3. You attempt to falsely equate proactive vs passive engagement by hoyoverse in other contexts that do not map one to one onto shipping.4. You clearly take an oppositional stance to clarity and constantly engage in obfuscation when it pertains to the inconsistencies with both your hypotheticals and the broadness of your analogies.There's also your complete lack of ability to engage in discussion or stay on topic and assert complete falsehoods. Also have usage of straw manning.>This is why I called you an autist.Because I'm pointing out a rhetorical strategy? I suppose I shouldn't do that then.>Was that supposed to be a goal of mine? It seems you've set up some loss and win conditions for me that I have no incentives to care about.I mean I knew you were bad faith and a hack but you keep crying about your lack of cognitive dissonance or inconsistencies. Which is it?
>>578597452Post pidi
Where are my Pearl leaks
>>578597673okay
Go play currency wars
>>578597527
>>578597763>>578597763
>>578597716Neat
>>578597592>Look, you've been talking in a pretentious esoteric way that's obviously not meant to be engaging but to sound smart.I've been using verbiage and statements to be incredibly clear with my point. If you're having difficulty following what I'm saying and the concepts I'm expressing then you should be more clear about what your counter claims are.>I never said that. All I said was that they got a lot of attention. You're obfuscating again.>You're seriously calling me out for looking down on other shipsI'm not going to seriously entertain this. You know what my argument is.
>>578597685You're not getting anything until her beta actually starts
>>578597826doubleclicker
>>578597846pidilove <3
>>578597937no bullying allowed
>>578597039Pic unrelated?
>>578598012
>>578598114so lazy today...
>>578598105Are you implying Anaxa has these arguments with Castorice
>>578597597>Your ship and its fandom would not exist without shilling. You have admitted this.No I did not. I said that hoyo amplifies the ship, but the ship would exist regardless, just in a smaller form. Phainaxa exists just fine after all.>You instinctively apply a moral foundation to shipping "bad or good" framingShipping isn't good or bad. It's just something done for fun. Punching down on other ships is also something done for fun.>You attempt to falsely equate>You clearly take an oppositionalAnon, I know that analogies scare you. I promise not to use them anymore if they were so traumatic for you.>Which is it?Don't care.
>>578598176saaaammeeMaybe I should go to bed, again.
preload is up
>>578597029>farming old support planarsBrooo? You just craft them, you're never getting your er%+spd pieces randomly and thats all you need
https://nhentai.net/g/651575/
i'm reading a manga called Ai no Senbiki ~Mamakatsu, which is about a fucking pedo woman who wants to hook up with an underage boy, damn it how i fucking hate ZZZfags
>>578598343i'm staying a couple of hours up but i'll prob sleep laterrrrr
we have a zone bros
>>578598441me n u hehe
Sex with Clara
>>578598415Uhhh... Rent free?
>>578598506that is whyyyy
>>578598415No correlation at all
>Beatrice Mellanine, IPC's star, the "Lotto Goddess"nihilux bros....
>>578576958How is it NTR if Sunday and Robin have loved each other since they were introduced?
>>578598575is whyyy
the idea of mydeimos
>>578598635>MellanineExcuse me?
>>578597865>You're obfuscating again.>You know what my argument is.You're the one trying to claim the nu-jos only ship pairings that are shilled. I brought up pairing that got decently popular without being shilled, and the you acted like I was trying to claim they were as big as Phaidei and that no one cared about them. If you cannot engage with the presence of shipping communities that disprove you're statement, that's on you.
>>578598680I-smoooooooooch
New Astral Express art
>>578596984Don't think so
>>578598691's anus turning inside out while he becomes a sphere covered with rectal wall
>>578598767is true
>>578598873You're not listening.
>>578571217>they're now targeting the 80% black tier ass lusting userbase
>Intellectually outpace phaideifags again>Immediately start licking their woundsKEK>>578598251>No I did not.Yes you did>on the idea that I'm supposed to feel shame over the shilling being a big part of why Phaidei is so bigYou acknowledge that it wasn't just amplification it was the reason why it was so big, and you even further state here.>You're not going to convince me that this is something I'm supposed to feel bad about.That you tie a moral sense of justification to this feeling.>Rightfully so, because we get things that everyone else wants. We deserve to gloat.You then admit here that you it is a moral framework that you're then applying through a highly valued resource that you align with good.>Shipping isn't good or bad. It's just something done for fun. Punching down on other ships is also something done for fun.No this is lie, you see both avenues as a way to hold moral superiority over others. You punch down because you see them not being shilled, it's why you stretched the anti-shill comparison. It is not only that phairenefags are delusional, they are morally bad because the game tells them to not ship it. This was your argument.>Anon, I know that analogies scare you. I promise not to use them anymore if they were so traumatic for you.They don't scare me. I think I highlighted pretty well why youre analogies are low IQ and poorly down here >>578594085 how come you didn't address any of them?>Don't care.Aaand done. It's always amusing when people pretend they can engage on any actual intellectual level then bow out before we even reach surface level principles and definitions.
>>578598794
>>578599002Shay?
>>578599017menu again
pi + di = pidi
>>578599118that is whyyy
>>578599165That's not how it works
>why youre analogies
>>578599165
>>578599228is whyyyyyy
>>578598783>You're the one trying to claim the nu-jos only ship pairings that are shilled.Lets do this one by one shall we?You: Phaidei is really popular because it has a big fandomMe: Phaidei is popular because of it's shilling, without its shilling there would be no communityYou: This isn't true because the community creates memes based on hoyoverse approved content such as the birds and rapenon AUs and rapenon stalking mydei with his cameras from the cipher trailer etc etc.Me: Yes this is shilling, phaidei is popular because of this shillingYou: Well if that were true why are these pairs popular despite no shillingMe: Those pairs are not popular at allYou: So how were they popular if they aren't shilledSo you're making my argument. Again, those ships are less popular because they were less shilled. They died because they lost shilling, Phaidei is popular because it is shilled. Thank you.
>>578599002>intellectually outpace phaideifags againNigga is really proud of his >50 IQ
>>578599237spongebob told me it is
>>578599002>phaireneThis shit is what started the autism? Holy KEK how embarrassing
>>578598767Don't worry about it
>>578599272whyyy uhh
>>578599384uhhhh...
>>578599327Oh, if you got it from a trustworthy source then it's fine
>>578599085>calling the name of a bejitafagSit.
>>578599002I was here PogChamp
guys, it's up
>>578599428I forgor
>this whole threadWhy is Phaidei so powerful
5 minutes
>>578599548meanie
>>578599685
>>578599585>Nulyfag
>>578599002>Yes you did"Does not exist" is an absolute. The Mynaxa ship exists despite how small it is. Phaidei would exist without shilling. Or are you really a 4chanonlyfag who thinks that a ship does not exist if you don't see people spamming it here? I would explain why you didn't know that the ships I brought up had fanbases.>moral superiorityWhat fucking moral superiority? It's a ship where we strip hunks and make them fuck each other. Only the most deranged on fujos would try to find some moral superiority in that.>Aaand done. It's always amusingYeah, I was right about you setting up win and loss conditions for me. I'm glad I'm not stupid enough to bother with them.
>>578599716w-woa
I need the spics to leave
>>578599815
conceptualize mydeimos
>>578599945
IT'S TIME!!!
>>578599772>"Does not exist" is an absolute. The Mynaxa ship exists despite how small it is.Okay thank you for agreeing with me again. The majority of Phaideifags including you would abandon the ship had it not gotten as much shilling as it got. That is what I've been saying since the beginning. There is no internal fandom culture that is not a spinoff of an AU or altverse shilled by Hoyoverse.>What fucking moral superiority?Re-read your anti-shilling vs no shilling argument. You're morally loading what ships are just. You literally tried comparing it to the proactive action of killing a deer.>Yeah, I was right about you setting up win and loss conditions for me.Nah I'm just acknowledging your current mental state. You've checked out completely, you're unable to engage. Unwilling to clarify and completely in a stupor.
it's up
>>578599289>This isn't true because the community creates memes based on hoyoverse approved content such as the birds and rapenon AUs and rapenon stalking mydei with his cameras from the cipher trailer etc etc.Am I really supposed to engage with this level of dishonesty? When I summarized what you said, I at least made an effort to get what I though you mean, but you're just lying here. Guess you're that desperate.
SKOOOOOTTTTTTTTTT
>>578600009Hopefully naked
robin or aventurine next ?
dead game
>>578600042hmmmmaybe I'll go to bed and gaming on phone
>>578600121>>578600121>>578600121
>>578600152will you come back later? or just tmrr
>>578600092Your summarization of my point was that I legitimately believe all else equal that all phaideifags would not exist without shilling and you're talking about dishonesty?
>>578600096>no shadesGhosts really aren't the same people huh...
>>578600063i'm up...
>>578600051>Okay thank you for agreeing with me again.This was never a point of disagreement. The whole disagreement was that you act like like Phaidei shippers have no contribution in the success of the shit.>You're morally loading what ships are just.Phaidei, Phairene, and Phainaxa are equally just. You're just making up something to complain about here.>Unwilling to clarify and completely in a stupor.It's 12am where I am. Don't expect everyone to be in the mood to play your games.>>578600261>Your summarization of my point was that I legitimately believe all else equal that all phaideifags would not exist without shilling and you're talking about dishonesty?Like I said, you're taking in absolute, which is worthless to me. Phaidei would exist as a ship without shilling, regardless of how small it would be, there's no point in me pretending otherwise.
>>578600703>This was never a point of disagreement. The whole disagreement was that you act like like Phaidei shippers have no contribution in the success of the shit.If a majority of the shippers would leave the ship without shilling then they are sufficient but not necessary. You can't disagree with this if you agree with the initial point kek.>Phaidei, Phairene, and Phainaxa are equally just. You're just making up something to complain about here.No, you can't backpaddle this after you verbatim make a moral argument on the merits of whether phairenefags should be shipping due to anti-shilling KEK what a fucking weasal.>It's 12am where I am. Don't expect everyone to be in the mood to play your games.You're just bad at this, where are you? jew york?>Like I said, you're taking in absolute, which is worthless to me. Keep punchin' that straw.
>>578600976>If a majority of the shippers would leave the ship without shilling then they are sufficient but not necessary.The ship would have no content or engagement without fans while fan can produce content and engagement without shilling. Phainaxa isn't shilled and even has anti-shilling with how they push Aglanaxa, and it still has fans and engagement. You don't need to be Renheng levels of success to be considered a successful ship.>No, you can't backpaddle this after you verbatim make a moral argument on the merits of whether phairenefags should be shippingQuote where I said whether or not they should be shipping. I said that anti-shipping was detrimental to a ship, but I did not make some moral argument on what shippers should do in response to it. Even in my incest example, I wouldn't have told people to abandon a ship over it if they didn't wan to. Feels like you're just making shit up here.>Keep punchin' that straw.Phaidei would still exist without shipping, no matter how small.
>>578601635>The ship would have no content or engagement without fans while fan can produce content and engagement without shilling.You keep doing this trick where we're talking about what is necessary for a ship to exist at a level of popularity, and then you start talking about content thresholds.Do you understand that I've already told you that phaidei does not exist in its current state without shilling?You keep appealing to ships that....do not exist without shilling to bolster your point.>Quote where I said whether or not they should be shipping.>Their dedication to a ship that everyone knows will be cucked out of future meaningful interactions to fulfill self-insert This is a backhanded compliment, you're admonishing them for engaging in shipping despite "anti-shilling" in your eyes.More proof.>When you're on top, you punch down and brag about your superiority, and when you're bottoming, you endure and wish your ship was on top.So you do see it as morally vindictive when you are being shilled. You see not being shilled as morally non-viable. You ascribe jealousy to those that have no shilling.Why are you so bad at lying about your positons?>Phaidei would still exist without shipping, no matter how small.If existing is equivalent to phainaxa which has literally zero than functionally it wouldn't exist. Phainaxa doesn't exist for all intents and purposes. So the same rules apply to Phaidei without the shilling because there's no substance to it.You're in jew york right?
>>578602117>You keep doing this trick where we're talking about what is necessary for a ship to exist at a level of popularityAnd that level of popularity that Phaidei achieved requires fan participation.>do not existThey don't exist on 4chan, which seems to be the only place you check for ships.>This is a backhanded compliment, you're admonishing them for engaging in shipping despite "anti-shilling" in your eyes.I was mainly admonishing that Phairene shipper for using Castordei to keep Mydei away from Phainon then punching down with a petty remark. I generally don't respect those keep away ships, but I have little issue with Phairene shippers themselves. Like I said, the punching down is just self-indulgent fun that the artist isn't even going to see. I actually do think that what hoyo did with Phainon and Cyrene was fucked up and that the Phairene shippers drew the short straw though.>So you do see it as morally vindictive when you are being shilled. You see not being shilled as morally non-viable. You ascribe jealousy to those that have no shilling.None of it has to do with morality. It just basic competitiveness. When you're winning, you want to keep winning, and when you're losing, you want to win.>Phainaxa doesn't exist for all intents and purposes.I'm never going to agree with you on that. Phainaxa has tons of fans and content without the shilling that Phaidei gets. If you think a ship existing is synonymous to getting shilled and being one of the biggest ships, than you just wasted my time, because that is such a retarded perspective. I guess it is true that the only ships that exist to you are the one you see spammed on 4chan...
>>578602998>And that level of popularity that Phaidei achieved requires fan participation.No it doesn't you keep saying this. It requires shilling, you haven't demonstrated that fandom has any significant influence over the shilling. Then you went on to cite fandoms that have zero shilling and are ostensibly dead in the water.>They don't exist on 4chan, which seems to be the only place you check for ships.They don't exist substantively in any way that matters, regardless of platform.>I was mainly admonishing that Phairene shipper for using Castordei to keep Mydei away from Phainon then punching down with a petty remark. I generally don't respect those keep away shipsAaah so you admit it, why did you lie then? you said there's no good or bad in shipping and you don't think that. Yet here clearly you are making a declarative statement about the morality of shipping actions.>None of it has to do with morality. It just basic competitiveness. This is a nothing statement, you're just justifying the moral framework. You are still within a moral framework making moral arguments.>I'm never going to agree with you on that. Phainaxa has tons of fans and content without the shilling that Phaidei gets.It doesn't, you cannot agree but you're not engaging with reality.So jew york yes or nah?
>>578603852>It requires shilling, you haven't demonstrated that fandom has any significant influence over the shilling.They tried to shill Jingheng for a while and stopped after the fandom didn't show notable interest. I mean, companies do respond to fandom reception. Hoyo started shilling with Phaidei, Phaidei shippers formed as a group and responded positively, which led to more shilling. A ship needs the participation of boh sides to get as big as Phaidei.>you said there's no good or bad in shipping and you don't think that. Yet here clearly you are making a declarative statement about the morality of shipping actions.You do know that there's a difference between not liking something and thinking that something is bad, right? I'm perfectly capable of putting someone down for something while thinking they did nothing wrong in any meaningful sense. People do that all the time on 4chan.>you're just justifying the moral frameworkMoral frameworks distinguish between right and wrong. Shipping really isn't important enough foe me to care about that.>It doesn'tIt factually does. It has 40k posts on Lofter and the 5th most ships on AO3. You're the one not engaging with reality.
>>578604631>They tried to shill Jingheng for a while and stopped after the fandom didn't show notable interest.Okay so you've once again looped back to confirming my argument again kek. So they stopped shilling it and it died.>Hoyo started shilling with PhaideiHoyo was already going to shill Phaidei, you don't seriously think that you guys suddenly and magically got Hoyoverse to start making last minute production decisions, commissions and fucking in game event lines do you? you can't possibly think they rewrite amphoreous just because they saw three phaidei ship arts. What a retarded fucking claim.>I'm perfectly capable of putting someone down for something while thinking they did nothing wrong in any meaningful sense. You are justifying the moral action, again. The issue isn't you disliking something, the issue is that something you dislike is actually in a way meaningfully inferior. Your statement is not about personal preference, you are objectively saying. Morally, that the actions done are in fact bad. Also to try and cite 4chan is hilarious, people maliciously and morally justify all sorts of schizoposting, shitposting, and derailing because they fundamentally do believe it is a net good.>Moral frameworks distinguish between right and wrong.You think that yet you justify the shipping, you try to couch it as a "competitive sense" but you've already made the identifier that to be not shilled is "bad" because it must be endured. You've already stated that you are justified in "punching down" on people who aren't shilled because to be shilled is to be "good" it is preferential. I have no idea what psychosis you have to think you're morally decoupling these things.>It factually does. It has 40k posts on Lofter and the 5th most ships on AO3. You're the one not engaging with reality.Oh so we're using Lofter now? didn't you say before that the only meaningful content that mattered was media like artwork?So jew york?
>>578605230You said I didn't show evidence that the fandom has any significant influence over shilling. I gave you evidence that they did. >Hoyo was already going to shill PhaideiYou might want to go back and read how I started that off with Hoyo shilling Phaidei. The large reception to the ship is why they keep getting content. Jingheng actually did have a fanbase before Hoyo started trying to shill them, but that fanbase was not able to give a loud enough response to hoyo to deem it worth continuing the shilling.>to be not shilled is "bad">justified in "punching down">to be shilled is to be "good"Things just are what they are. I don't try to justify anything, and I said that there was no honor in shipping culture. You want me to care about this a lot more than I do, but when I say all this stuff, I'm just describing how I think that world works rather than any ideal. Trying to shove some moral perspective in this is just something I'm not interested in.>Oh so we're using Lofter now? didn't you say before that the only meaningful content that mattered was media like artwork?Are you fucking serious? You tried to present yourself as knowing anything about the Phaidei community and you don't even know that cn fujos post their fanart on Lofter?
>>578606643>You said I didn't show evidence that the fandom has any significant influence over shilling. I gave you evidence that they did.Answer my question. Do you seriously believe Hoyoverse rewrote the entirety of amphoreous and multiple events and PVs to include Phaidei shilling because of the response from Phaidei nu-jos?All of the marketing and call of the products all of that was made last minute as a response to phaidei nu-jos?>Jingheng actually did have a fanbase before Hoyo started trying to shill themJingheng is not nearly as shilled as Phaidei stop bringing it up, it's irrelevant and you're still just bolstering my point.>Things just are what they are.This isn't responsive to what I've said. You're not interested because you realize that your statements are clear moral indications. Just admit it you're already making the arguments, you made such a complex argument for why it is in fact okay to punch down and why you see other ships as being lesser, as well as outlined why shilling is a moral good.I don't get why you can't follow the logical conclusion to what you've stated despite having obviously thought about it quite a lot.>Are you fucking serious? You tried to present yourself as knowing anything about the Phaidei community Here we go switching up the tracks again. Are you making an appeal to authority or not? do you believe barriers exist or not? I'm obviously talking about fanfic in this instance but please do. Keep enlightening me on how well informed I need to be to talk about fucking ships, all from the comfort of your jew york apartment.
>>578607050>Do you seriously believe Hoyoverse rewrote the entirety of amphoreous and multiple events and PVs to include Phaidei shilling because of the response from Phaidei nu-jos?>Hoyo started shilling with Phaidei, Phaidei shippers formed as a group and responded positively, which led to more shillingWhat the fuck do you think I meant by this? The original stuff was them trying the build the ship, that could have failed but it was successful, and they continued it after. We are past the point where they can make changes based on the initial reception. The reason they'll still shilling is because the fujos responded so positively.>not nearly as shilled as PhaideiPhaidei is not the standard. It is an abnormality in both shilling and fandom. Ships don't need to have Phaidei shilling to get attention from fans. In Jingheng's case, people were attracted to them due to their shared past, Jing Yuan attitude towards Dan Heng, and some fanfiction on the Luofu pairing Jing Yuan and Dan Feng.>You're not interested because you realize that your statements are clear moral indications.No. I'm interested because it's genuinely not important to me.>I'm obviously talking about fanfic in this instance but please do.No. You just don't know what Lofter is and let that slip. >Keep enlightening me on how well informed I need to be to talk about fucking shipsYou don't know shit right know. That's what I can tell you.
>>578607797So are you in jew york? it's 2am are you comfy in your apartment?>We are past the point where they can make changes based on the initial reception.Then you're a delusional retard, everything that phaidei got for the entirety of 3.x was already slated you fucking moron. Holy shit you actually believe shaoji rewrote 3.2-3.5 just to appeal to fucking phaidei fujos.Dawei happened to see Lofter rankings so he ordered production of phainon and mydei plushies.All those collabs? planned last minute just because of Phaidei. You're actually way stupider than I thought you were.>Phaidei is not the standard. It is an abnormality in both shilling and fandom.Another stupid tangent talking about a ship that has nothing to do with the core premise of what we're talking about. You're trying to appeal to some shadow brick by brick fandom first building while highlighting that the most shilled ship in HSR history is the most successful and constantly replicates said shilling.You are once again proving the fandom side doesn't matter at all. It's all shilling kek.>No. I'm interested because it's genuinely not important to me.Yet you're still here trying to deny it despite you already confirming that yes, this is important to you otherwise you wouldn't have tried to rationalize it as such.>No. You just don't know what Lofter is and let that slip.Keep punching that straw.>You don't know shit right know. That's what I can tell you.I know it's 2 am where you are and you're slipping.
>>578608215>Then you're a delusional retard, everything that phaidei got for the entirety of 3.x was already slated you fucking moron.And I never argued against this. You're making up a strawman. No, like I said, building a ship as successful as Phaidei requires both hoyo and the shippers. Hoyo was the one that tried to make the ship in the first place, shippers responded, and all the shilling in Amphoreus was successful. Now that we past the point where they can start responding to the reception, they've decided to continue.>Another stupid tangent talking about a shipYou the one who said we were talking about hoyo ships. Are you now trying to backtrack and say that the only examples you will accept are Phaidei? I give you an example of fujos shipping without shilling and you say they don't count because they're not as big as Phaidei. I give you and example of fujo reception influencing whether hoyo decides to continue shilling and you say it doesn't count because it's not as big as Phaidei. That's you saying you don't want any examples whatsoever while pretending that you're asking honest questions. >You are once again proving the fandom side doesn't matter at all. It's all shilling kek.The shilling doesn't mean anything if it can't attract an audience. The fact that a highly shilled ship like Phaidei has haters shows that shilling alone does not ensure that a person will like a ship. The fandom also helps grow a ship or create enemies for it. And the Phaidei fandom has been highly active in trying to advertise the ship by buying billboards, selling merch, sharing fan content, and organizing events.>this is important to you otherwise you wouldn't have tried to rationalize it as such.Dude, it's fucking shipping. It's not important enough for me to apply morals to it.>Keep punching that straw.You don't know shit about the Phaidei fanbase. You have no insight on the inner community or the spaces where they hang out. All of this is obvious.
