Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9550 - The Greatest Edition==NEWS==>Sonic Blitz has been cancelledhttps://x.com/saac_news/status/2090738578074579070?s=46>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 02 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>578624871
Douge
>>578676273Going by youtube viewership Satam is literally the least successful Sonic TV series no contest and Prime is the most.Yes, Underground, AOSTH, Boom, and Sonic X all have better views than SatamThe popularity argument kills no-mandate westnic
*pulls level*
People who say Sonic isn't popular in japan are usually archie or idw fags, but if you look at archie or idw sales, it's worse than japan's sonic sales. so they have to hide behind stuff like the movies to say Sonic's popular but their end goal is shilling the freedom fighters or ian's version of sonic even though the movies have nothing to do with either.
and I thought I was obnoxious when I made gay homosex threads
>>578676428bara will save this general
>>578676751
*Sniffs you*
>>578676428DADDY
>>578676851>>578676673Stop samefagging
>>578676851it's a weird argument because it implies that archie and idw are popular in america and they just aren't, nobody gives a shit about sonic comics
>>578676441Even people who aren’t invested in Amy’s character have noticed what has happened to it and are bothered by it. And being angry about it is justified. It doesn’t make you Chris Chan-adjacent
>>578677027>samefagging copeif you're going to use popularity as an argument then the only western sonic media more popular than sonic x are your options. You better be a primefag
>>578677058Bestie...
Has doing nothing but crossoverwhoring for 2 years ever been an effective marketing strategy?
Ian even said that the first five issues of IDW completely outsold Archie's best sellers. If that's true then fewer americans read the comics than bought VHS tapes for Sonic X Go ahead and refute this. You're the one who brought up the popularity crap.
>>578677275Don’t you have anything better to do, Duo?
>>578677407Who are you quoting, schizo?
>>578677407Based. Fuck comicfags and their popularitywhoring. The comics sold like 5k per issue.
>>578677251I'm not the same guy, I just think you should drop it and stop samefagging already
>>578677054>>578676851>>578677626>>578677407>>578676673Okay then why do you people post EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY ABOUT COMICSHIT if it's so fucking barren of fans?
I like Archie but sometimes I feel like people don't really read it they just use it for arguments about shipping and power scaling instead of just reading it as a fun silly off brand comic like PokeSpe
Tails
>>578677885Because comicshitfags are spammers
how do you guys feel about lancelot making it into the movies before rouge blaze and silver
I like shitverI don't care if he had a destructive game, it is our destructive game.
>>578678121This is gay
>>578678056What about him?
>>578678865He's lovable :)
amy bestiestails failssilver sistersblaze hagsall should shut up and go somewhere else
b-blackwood please fuck blaze for me
>>578679052You're the one who doesn't belong here lol
>>578679179kill yourself incel
at least its not my fucking ship!
>>578679179fails the kek was a mistake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9m1Ozpl2pY
<3
>>578679249How's your sailing ship?
>>578679173See this is awful because the REAL Chadver would be milking Blackwood dry with his own bussy
LET'S GET DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>578679535it is okay to sink boats on purpose sometimes
>>578679815TO BUSINESSTO DEFEATTHE HUNS
>>578677058Yeah even people who reduce her to "her whole character was just limping for Sonic" ans didnt even particularly like her before dont like how she is now.They see her as having been gutted.Watched a video by a guy who clearly has a negative view of Amy and he basically compared her current state to Barney from the Simpsons having his whole being drunk thing removed.Its an ignorant and uninformed comparison and yet the result is still the same. What annoys me is these same people think the solution is to just make Sonic and Amy a generic couple, which is revealing.
They just lost shit ton of money on Rovio's aquisition and you're here gooning to Amy
>>578680568We're not SEGA nor do we earn from them
>>578677407>If that's true then fewer americans read the comics than bought VHS tapes for Sonic XThat doesn't even shock me.
>>578676904i want a girl to huff my boysmell, maybe
>>578680568Who the fuck cares
>>578680682Stop self-replying.
>>578680693We call that a stink anon. You stink. Go shower.
>gets told an easily provable fact >starts accusing samefagging
Ohtani said the lyrics of One Way Dream are a message from Sonic Team to Sonic fanshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYtGaUQLJC0>They said we'd break, they said we'd lose>But here we are, what else is new?>Even if they laugh, we'll never bite the dustCool!
>>578681178Who are you quoting?
>>578678309>calling him Shitver affectionatelyHey, i do that too lol
>>578680885no, im cultivating my musk!
>>578680778That wasnt me tho
>>578681193>I'm a spark that won't go outWishes are eternal....SONIC is eternal.https://youtu.be/AfI9tyGatlk
>>578677493Duo...
>>578682085John Adventure
every character that isn't sonic, tails, knuckles, and shadow is a literal who Silver, Blaze, Elise, Mimic, Infinite and Sage are all as culturally relevant as Rotor or Manic. Nobody cares about them. Most people think Rouge's name is Rogue and only know her from porn.
krack did nothing wrong
>>578682734Eggman
A character that reminds me of Amy Rose, at least partially, is "Hakari Hanazono" from the 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really Love You. Because her main thing is being actively, overwhelmingly pursuant of gaining the main character's affection while also being the most direct, straightforward and romantically obsessed with being the main character's girlfriend, and also being the "first" one. She also has pink hair and green eyes.
>>578682734?
>>578682734Longclaw, Tom, Maddie, Rachel and Wade
OC time
no woefag
>>578682836You mean Robotnik>>578682965Absolutely not
Sonic isn't worth the cortisol levels it causes you
Made for ultimate life forms
>>578683836*Knuckles
>It's Robotnik!>No one calls me that anymoreThis English exclusive line is stupid. It makes no sense in universe, it even contradicts the English exclusive lines in SA1. Writing dialogue around memes was a mistake. If there's a reason the 2010s should be called "meta era", it's things like these, and Generations is the metaest of them all.
>>578683836Shadikal sucks. Very definition of hetslop.
https://litter.catbox.moe/y7nibv.png
>>578680530That's how bad it has gotten. That Crossworlds survey is still open, people are still taking it, and a lot of them are saying they don't like Amy's English dialogue because she didn't sound exuberant and assertive. She sounded uncharacteristically polite and soft. Her voice direction also needs improvement. I don't know what SOA is going to do with the survey in practice when it comes to future games
I want to die so badly. I'm not allowed to enjoy anything but I'm evil for hating anything.
>>578684387hawt, is there more?
Dikal
>cmon take my bait already i am bored and i want some entertainment
Dr Robotegg
https://youtu.be/dI09gt8qm0A?is=QHIGDIenD1a2FISC
OH MY GAIA! What's this, Blaze? Is that an entire SECRET COMPARTMENT beneath Blackwood's bed? It's for ME? WOWZERS! You're telling me that I can now sit CURLED UP in the FETAL POSITION below his bed while he GIVES YOU a FETUS in the MISSIONARY POSITION? SWEET CHAOS! And this CRAMPED, HUMID CRAWLSPACE was ENGINEERED to provide a FLOURSHING ECOSYSTEM for various BUGS, SPIDERS AND WORMS to call their home??? So much so that I can LIVE here INDEFINITELY, eating LITERAL INSECTS to SURVIVE? WOWIE, this is JUST LIKE HOME! My WATER will come from moisture on the walls that will give my tongue SPLINTERS when I SLURP IT UP? ALL RIGHT! And you're going to lock me down here PERMANENTLY? Blaze, you shouldn't have! Now I can truly focus on harnessing my psychic abilities while listening to the CARNAL RHYTHM of your PASSIONATE SEX with Blackwood! Time to take my powers to the next level! YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
>>578684387who the fuck circumcised him...who did this to him...i should have been there...
i have silver, blaze, silvaze, silver vs blaze fatigue. and it's all evan stanley's fault and she got into sonic via that dumpster fire sonic 06. sonic 06 was a mistake. tanabata is not even interesting. it's generic slop for 12yo girls
You guys jerk off to Silver don't you
In all of these debates it's been made clear literally no one cares about Blaze's character. She really is just a trophy wife fans of different characters fight over who gets to fuck her.
Krack should write up all the problems with Archie Shadow and/or IDW Shadow, but I don't think she really read all of the former.
sally
>>578686540no way haha…
>>578685512No, there isn'tI can always ask for moar tho>>578686381
>>578676851What are "japan's sonic sales." sales of what?
I like Amy's boobs
I like Silver when he's fucking tall girls
>>578687048Amy is a twelve year old girl, she doesn't have boobs
>>578687048
>>578687173Explain this then
>>578687407This is off model fan art
>>578687475weird. In every pic of amy I have on my computer, she has massive tiddies
>>578682085Gamma is a male robot with a female bird trapped inside
Don't open this
>>578687606Every pic of Amy you have on your computer is off model slop.
>>578686573Blame Maekawa for shackling her to Silver and ruining Nishiyama's vision for her.
>>578687798
>>578687784I would never save slop. Gross
>>578688007he's got da peyrone's...
>>578682085>Subtly pro-LGBTQ+ messagingWhat?!
>>578684086Knuckles X Tikal would be boring as fuck desu.
*touches Shadow's circumcision scar*>Is this where they hurt you? :(*touches Shadow's circumcision scar**touches Shadow's circumcision scar**touches Shadow's circumcision scar*
>>578688460>NiGHTS from NiGHTS Into Dreams (a genderless character referred to by Sega with they/them pronouns, rated as "Informational" on this list) features prominently in the Casinopolis stage. The Chao, a major feature of plot and gameplay, are based off the genderless Nightopians. Chao have no genders, and any two Chao can be bred. Individual Chao are also referred to with "they/them" pronouns by Sega.
I liked Finitevus from Archie, even though I know he wouldn't really fit in the games.
>>578688694Maria, that's not helping.
>[x] can't fit in [media]is a poor excuse for creative bankruptcy. anything can fit anywhere if you got the right type of glue and know how to make the pieces fit
>>578689213It becomes not worth it if you have to change the character too much.
>>578689220
>>578689312you don't have to. you know. right glue, fitting parts.in finetivus' case you are not breaking characters but instead you are breaking the brand>knuckles is the last of the echidnabecomes obsolete. not that it had any worth
>>578689430So basically Silver left, and Sonic will fuck his oc gf?
>>578689550Can you stop thinking about cucking for 5 minutes
Amy discourse but its Serena from PokemonBecause if there was any doubt, Amy is in fact the Serena of Sonic
>Yes it can fit, you just need to remove a crucial, recognizable element from the media!
>>578682734>skipping her on purpose.
>>578689845Bitch got what she fucking deserves
Sonicfags like Shade btw. last of the echidnas doesn't matter
>>578689845Amy was literally insane for at least three years, not applicable
>>578689845>>578690093Wouldn't Amy be Misty because of seniority and (extreme) tsundere? Ok, Misty only wanted her bike back.
Okay I get it, you guys watched cartoons animals on tv as kids and it gave you guys your first stiffy and have forever rewired your brain into thinking animal characters are sexy despite how disgusting it really is>are you shaming me?maybe, I'll just never understand who anyone willingly wants to fuck animal characters without thinking about the gross animal parts>but it's exotic!That would be a dark skinned human women from the tropics, not a humanoid animal freak of nature
>>578690431Humans are disgusting, next question.
>>578690531Are you ashamed of being a furry?
>>578690213Wtf is that
>>578682941I feel like you're more going off of her having pink hair and green eyes and centering her love for thr MC above everything else.Hikari's thing is being a proper young woman with a undercover degen side she keeps to herself.Thats like....the opposite of Amy.Amy's thing, her actual character when you dont just focus on her being a good love interest for Sonic, is that she is a teen rebel for girls.She is a yume kogal and a go-getter who is proactive and has no filter. She is not conventionally lady-like at all. She is rough in personality and speaks informally. She enjoys acting in the now and believes in self improvement and is devoted and dedicated and very proactive.That's Amy.
>>578690695No. At least they're fictional.
>>578690731It's drawing of Sonic, Shadow, Amy, Metal Sonic, unknown character and SurgeAre you blind?
>>578684354>Very definition of hetslopNah, that's Shadouge and Shadamy.
>>578688694Gerald was Christian do you think Shadow is circumcised?
>>578690431You would not believe the weird shit I'm into. Sonic characters are by far the most `normal` of the bunch
>>578690914truke
>>578690986I respect monsterfags more than furries
>>578687821Nishiyama was the head director at the time. Maekawa was told to put her in the game, not the reverse.
>>578689525>if it gets in the way of shoving all my shit for validation into the core series, it needs to be removedGrow up
>>578691107this
>>578690093SallyMistybro....>>578690394Sally
>>578690772Doesn't Amy use Japanese female speech despite being an otenba?
>>578689430>I will come back>he never came back
>>578691230Sonic team were open to shade the echidna. just saying>STOP HAVING FUN!!!! GROW UP!!!!!you first
>>578690204No she wasn't.
>>578690918american "christians" do that a lotsaid Gregorios the orthodox priest from Apotos
>>578691416She uses atashi instead of watashi iirc, which is more informal.
Gamescon is live in 16 hours!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzvzt3IjNik
>>578690986Real acid?
is sonic adventuresexual?
>>578691461>Sonic team were open to shade the echidna.A new character introducing a new subplot. And then when they learned the writers wanted to erase Knuckles solitude and duty, the game went up in smoke.>stop having fun!If you wanna write your fanfiction where that stuff gets included, go ahead. No one said you can't.This is about the actual core series getting changed. Grow up
>>578690986>posts conventionally attractive body with spooky alien head>thinks hes "weird"Please tell me you have better than this.
>>578690918shadow is supposed to be perfect, so gerald made him not have foreskin from the start
>>578691915>A new character introducing a new subplot. And then when they learned the writers wanted to erase Knuckles solitude and duty, the game went up in smoke.no retard. it went up in the smokes due to ken the pen thinking shade is julie-su...anyways it was a short lived conversation. but it'll have to end here. go do your sonic homework if you want to play purist
>>578692034you DISGUST me
>>578692187>t went up in the smokes due to ken the pen thinking shade is julie-su...There isn't any actual evidenxe of this to my knowledge. It's kind of a conspiracy theory.
>>578692239perfect to gerald's standards, you retard
>>578690431I didn't really become attracted to Sonic girls until I found Sonic porn when I was young. Also,>I'll just never understand who anyone willingly wants to fuck animal characters without thinking about the gross animal partsI would get where you're coming from if we were talking about ferals, but the truth of the matter is that what makes these characters attractive are their human-like attributes, at least for me anyway. In other words, I find them attractive not because they resemble animals but in spite of it.
>>578690431dark skinned "people" are humanoid animal freaks of nature
>>578691506Yes she was
I hate Archie Honey
>>578693071i like her visual design
>>578669043Don’t care about shitver, it’s just easy to tell with your kind kek keeping hiding behind your “jokes”.
>>578693045Examples?
>>578673594why archieniggers attack innocents for playing games ?
>>578692485If what you are attracted to are the human parts then why not just be attracted to humans instead?
I have a chip on my shoulder from the first time an IDWfag yelled at me for drawing Silver with angular eyes
>>578693685Not that guy, but humans aren't cute.
>>578693685It's called a fetish anon, either you get it or you don't. It is what it is.
>>578693685>[spoilerliving_onahole/
Gerald is Russian, so the real reason Shadow has black fur and stripes is that it resembles Adidas clothes.
>>578687821It’s not like she had anything else going for her considering the people who hate 06 also treat her like ship bait
>>578693685I'm attracted to fictional humans. It's real people I've got a problem with. They're so... disgusting.
>>578692485Tangle is looking at Blaze, the way that Wallace looks at cheese
Behold. The superior Tailsship.
>>578694861Even your fellow /sthg/ friends?
>>578693645>>578693509Stop self-replying.
>>578695331Not your boogeyman cuckky
Post Tails
imagine not wanting to fuck blobs. how weird
You never see Roger Craig Smith anywhere near other Sonic VAs
Sonic games should have political messaging unironically. 2000s style heavy handed political messaging about bombs and terrorists.
Boy
>>578694879She used to be shipped with Blaze before Whisper was introduced I'm pretty sure
>>578695046mmmmmm no
I hate all these crossovers
My name is Silver, quills of white,I came from futures dark as night.I fought for hope, I fought for her,But Blackwood came and made her purr.He took my Blaze upon the floor,While I just looked and wanted more.My psychokinesis fails once more,I cannot close the bedroom door.O Blackwood tall and dark and strong,Your ermine cock is twelve inches long.My Blaze is yours now, I can see,She only screams your name, not me.Please breed her deeper, make her cry,I’ll watch forever till I die.
Shadowposting time
>>578696959ew
>>578697103how the fuck is this a 16 year old girl
>>578696748>zoeyslopSage and Tails have way more chemistry
>>578696709How long did that last, like 4 issues? I fell like they got hooked up as fast as Ian could manage.
>>578697103archie shadow is jarring
>sthg always using creator's intent as a weapon against ships>sthg hates whispangle which is creator's intent
>>578697663Apparently you are the worst person in the entire thread if you think this
>>578697103Maria's literal clone.
>>578697103did this BITCH just say she's thankful that he doesn't act like game Shadow
>>578697705Whispangle wasn't Ian's intent when he first wrote them but the lesbian mafia took over
Hey, what’s new? Anything cool, or more or less of the stupid shit?https://youtu.be/auCUamEhaRs
>>578697814Everyone in the thread thinks Archie Shadow sucks.
Surge
>>578698176Archiefags spaz at krack every day for not liking archie shadow they admitted it last thread.
>>578697921Ian is the biggest wishie washie flipfloping faggot on the planet. Which is why he's stuck round for so long.
>>578698281>>578698176>>578697814Stop self-replying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRXmb5u1azQ>>578697993Nope
>>578698374Archiefag melty.
>>578698281>>578698176I hate Archiedow too, but when I admit it people call me Krack.>>578697847I wonder how she would react to Canon Shadow
>>578698374it's so obvious it's her
>>578698176I think he sucks but when I say it they just say I'm krack. It's happened around 15 times now.
>>578698453>>578698641Every time I called Archie a shitty adaptation of Shadow I was called Krack too
>>578698453When Archie Shadow did act a bit like Game Shadow she said she was afraid of him.
>>578695745Why is that?
>>578698841he's stinky and they don't like him
>>578698808That sounds devastating coming from Maria's face
>>578698908I never understood the point in downplaying the resemblance to Sonic from his own relatives until Shadow and Classic Amy look more like Sonic than his own siblings and parents.
>>578699020Nah, Archie Shadow in that same issue realized her and Maria weren't the same person (and he was planned to not care about finding out she was a clone).
>>578699153Amy having green eyes made some people think she was his sister way back then.
>>578699167>(and he was planned to not care about finding out she was a clone)what
>>578698176The more time goes on, the more i find myself disliking Archie Shadow. The more you understand the actual character, the more ArchieShadow feels like its made to appease people eith 0 actual empathy and think empathy is when the other person turns THEIR walls down so you can feel good about YOURself.I just find that obnoxious.No im not Krack. Not everyone is Krack.
Can you fuck off krack, we know it's you.
>>578699331Obsessed
>>578698902He's a good voice actor but his voice doesn't fit Sonic. However, I have read online that it's the voice directors telling him to speak in a deep voice so I don't know if he could pull a Jason Griffith or Ryan Drummond-like voice
>>578699153Well the main reason for that is, classic Amy was designed to be Sonic's Minnie to his Micky and Shadow was meant to be the fake out "Evil" Sonic. I would argue that Manic and Tania look more like Sonic than Shadow though, both their og designs and in fanart.
>>578699331Shadow will never love whoever you ship him with.
>>578699340
>>578699294I don't hate him but I do hate whenever people say he's the best way to write Shadow. He's literally a different character.
>>578699283Penders originally wanted to reveal that Hope was a genetic clone of Maria created by GUN with the intention of controlling/manipulating Shadow. It's also why her father Colin said she was his stepdaughter in one issue that left people confused. That was the reason, he wasn't her biological father.
>>578699639I don't like this.
>>578699639This is great.
>>578699639archie was awful
I post in pony threads
>>578699639>Penders originally wanted to reveal that Hope was a genetic clone of Maria created by GUN with the intention of controlling/manipulating ShadowThat's retarded even by his standards. Especially since Hopes resemblance to Maria was a happy coincidence that they just ran with.
>>578699294I frankly just don't like Ian's version because the other writers wrote Shadow from what they THOUGHT Shadow acted like with little information they had. Ian had loads of information from previous released games and still changed him in order to fix him and shit.
>>578699867This literally makes no sense. We see Hope's grandmother who looks exactly like her and isn't a Robotnik while Hope's father has Eggman's hair color. The clear implication is that she inherited her appearance from her mother's side, so they just ran with her looking like Maria as a coincidence. Her being a clone is even worse
>>578699639So Shadow was made nicer to get along with a girl who he intimidated at first and even then she was only nice to him because she was programmed to be like some kind of Reverse Surge?
>>578695745Roger just sees Sonic as a cereal mascot. I'm not even saying this to insult him. I've seen videos of him talking about his roles and he has a lot to say about other characters instead of Sonic. One of his favorites seems to be Kyle Crane from Dying Light from some of the videos I've seen.
>>578699892In fairness, Sonic team were reluctant to give them a bible on Sonic's lore since Archie comics weren't a Japanese manga publisher, with them also leaving them with little oversite, Hence a lot of the madness of Archie lore.
>>578690772>Hikari's thing is being a proper young woman with a undercover degen side she keeps to herself.I'm aware that's generally the idea, but there's nothing undercover about Hakari at all, that's more-so how she thinks of herself but everyone else just doesn't see that at all. The main thing about Hakari, to me, is that she's very direct and overwhelmingly passionate about her love for him, and she has a Trickster mind behind how she does it. So like when I think about Amy's personality, I often think of Hakari as like half of the equation specifically for the intense unfiltered expression of overwhelming passion and her romance dynamic being that she's the pursuer or aggressor. But the other half of the equation for Amy would have to be an example of Amy's pure heart and intense joy and optimism and bubbly energy in general, along with her love for adventure and thrills that she shares with Sonic, and her dislike of boredom, and things like that.
>>578700224>Roger just sees Sonic as a cereal mascotIs he wrong, I mean the character hasn't been cool and edgy since the late 00s
>>578700224>Roger just sees Sonic as a cereal mascot.What does that mean? Does Roger not enjoy voicing Sonic?
>>578700520trooncoded oc
>>578699639What exactly would possess Abraham Tower to commission a clone of Maria who is shorter and older
>>578700590troons dont exist
>>578700590She is not trans, at all, in any way. Being pink, white and blue does not make her trans and I refuse to let that or any community own a color scheme.
>>578698412Jesus wtf am i doing here?https://youtu.be/qkGtGt1L6iU
>>578699863I would prefer that you did not.
>>578700442I imagine it's more he doesn't think much of Sonic's inner character all that much. To him, it's purely for entertaining and a job.
>>578700046lizardfucking > dogfucking
What's lost to time is that Penders dropped all this information while sthg was having a big schizo fight about Hope Kintobor
>>578700772So does this mean he doesn't put passion into voicing Sonic?
>>578700405Roger doesn't really seem all that involved with Sonic beyond voicing. When he talked about roles like Chris Redfield, he was more included in the process but I forgot at what extent (he doesn't voice Chris anymore, but still brings up his experience when it's brought up). He also said he liked characters that were flawed instead of ones that had all the answers for a situation.>>578700442It's more like it's something he does but not something really immersed in. Just me guessing. He can enjoy it, but it's not that serious.
>>578700951Do you even have to ask?
>>578700951More or less. just because you don't put passion into something doesn't mean you can't find it fun.
>>578700757Stop guarding the pony threads!!!
>>578700909Something something Hope banging Chris something something she's supposed to bang Shadow something something it would be OOC for JP Shadow and Hope to get along something something
>>578700637Brother or sistee, I don't Shadow's game was even out yet when the reveal was planned.
Tails is the best
How do these two look together?
>>578700986He still was the best Chris voice in my opinion. Kind of wish he could come back if it wasn't for Capcoms retarded Voice over policys
>>578701135Jokes aside they look fun. But I still think the right one is a tranny.
>>578701241She is a girl. She is born female. She is not trans. Her color scheme is largely the same as his.
>>578701337You wanted our opinion, that's my opinion. The color palette is tranny coded and ruins her with him, sorry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ2VELO4OPs
>>578701425Fuck off tranny
>>578701425What, no one can use pink, white and blue anymore?
>>578700986>>578701017>>578701059I don't know if he can pull off a younger-sounding voice. Roger has said before even before Frontiers that he's being told to do a deep voice. That said, I miss Jason Griffith. At least his voice was spared from the embarrassment of the meta era. Who can replace Roger?
>>578701486Yeah they're ruined.
>>578701608>>578701453>>578701059>>578700772>>578700721stop spamming these ugly characters
>>578701059That doesn’t make much sense in the acting sense. If there’s no fun, then how is there passion? Especially considering a franchise like this? With all the interviews and conventions?https://youtu.be/nrat3E0BzlA
>>578701486Tainted like rainbows.
>>578701704
People forgot that most of Roger's tenure for Sonic started in the Meta Era where Sonic was usually humorous or acted like a Power Ranger stopping whatever evil came afoot. He never had Sonic go through more intense moments like Drummond and Griffith. One of the things he recalled for Sonic Frontiers was that they suddenly wanted his voice to be deeper. And any actual fan knows Frontiers' script was weak af if you can see through the "hype" moments with the Titan fights with music blasting at you.
>>578701710>Iron ButterflyI miss 1960s and 70s Blues Rock and Hard Rock
>>578701889Power Rangers is infinitely more sincere than the meta era, hell during the Meta era.
>>578701692>>578701773I don't care. I refuse to let that be the case.
>>578701710>>578701764>>578701791>>57870192stop spamming these ugly characters
>>578701889Only Frontiers haters spout "hype and aura" bullshit despite that shit being around since Sonic 2. I see your ass.
>>578700909Someone was upset that Hope is with Chris Thorndyke in the fangame and said they wanted her with Shadow and that caused Randomfox to sperg out over Archie Shadow
>>578701980Well Sparky it's not my fault that you have big ass shoes and swollen lips
https://youtu.be/oAxgIoHIxug?list=RDoAxgIoHIxug
>>578702021Frontiers does in a way to make up how boring the rest of the game is. I don't even think the shit in it wad hype, but fans say it is.
>>578701889The English voice direction in Frontiers was so garbage and so was the script. Just compare both of those to their Japanese counterparts. The English scripts of Dream Team and Crossworlds weren't an improvement either which is why I'm so desperate for the next mainline game to actually fix it all
I hate thick Amy fanart. She's no thicker than Sonic himself. You just want to fuck humans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMnqV26Njxo
>>578702002Amy is cute too
>>578702071
>>578702067>>578702305>>578702376>>578702471stop spamming these ugly characters they look like vomit
>>578701898I know how you feel but technically this is before my time. How old are you if you don’t mind me asking?https://youtu.be/UgFCFzAP8Ts
>>578702428
>besties getting mad at Surge again
>>578702543
Sonic hasn't been a serious role since at least Black Knight, but I'm sure people will debate if Sonic was ever a serious role, but you aren't gonna get the old stuff back. Accept it. He's like Current Mickey Mouse, not KH Mickey Mouse.
>>578702637They hate the best love interest
>>578702560>>578702634>>578702648ugly pedo character
Name another picture that caused more strife in the fandom than this
Amyfags are the Mistyfags of Sonic
>>57870256022 but I like to listen to and search for old records. It's a hobby of mine. I think I should get more into digging for alternative and indie rock records since there's a lot of talent out there that doesn't get much attention
>>578702694she's ugly and smells
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQLFV0-u5mg
>>578700909There was a push for Shadow x Hope or something and then Penders dropped a nuclear bomb on it with his Shadow Files release.
Grrrr I hate Amy now grrrrrrrrrrrrr she's the worst character ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>578702973She wasn't even good enough for pre-flynn archie Shad
>>578699490>Looking at Sonic now, I prefer niggerhog from space stories>posted in July 2008, several months away from Unleashed's releaseWere 06, Secret Rings, and Zero Gravity really that bad leading up to Unleashed?
Here's one Sonia before I go to bed
I hate argento!
>>578702920>>578703018>>578703070spamming won't make idw good or make those chars less ugly
>>578703115They were better than Black Doom's story
>>578703132>anon went looking for ass and found poo and diapersDeserved
This is one of my favs>>578703115It was the reaction to Black Knight being announced.
>>578689550>So basically Silver left, and Sonic will fuck his oc gf?Silver will come back and Sonic is a sexless cuck though.
>>578703353Incel ship
>>578702973>why is hope next to chris when she is supposed to fuck shadow>no shadow is supposed to fuck amy/tikal/rouge>shipsperg infighting>penders reveals archiedow doesn't care about the literal who in the first place and that was an ian thing
>>578703467The same book says Archiedow is into Sally which is just insult to injury at that point. Penders's cuck fetish extended to Maria's clone.
>>578703319>It was the reaction to Black Knight being announcedThat sounds about right
>>578703319Sonic with a sword is fucking awesome, that guy is a dumbass
>>578703467>Shadow getting laid within the lifetimes of his current friendsDude will have calmed down to some semblance of normal in like, a hundred years. Then he'll fug some literal who.
>>578702784It really depends on what era you choose. I’ve heard it before. I just found out recently that in the 60s, hits were topped based on their melody alone. Can’t say the same for anything underground I heard recently. Let me put like this, if some say Minutemen changed punk, what makes the new comers so different? Especially when they can’t compete with Bad Brains in any way.https://youtu.be/WuEKmt-w0P0
>>578703590It was funny because Shadally was supposed to be a meme and then Ken announces "I was actually going to do it if I stayed on the book. I even considered giving them three kids and showing how Shadow was a bigger man than Sonic could ever hope to be."
>>578703467Hope literally moved back to the human cities out of knothole after the timeskip and never interacted with mobians again outside of a handful of moments with Team Dark.
>>578703443Just saying shit
I came as soon as I heard Doctor Feelgood, how is my sweet and loving gal-pal Blaze doing? WHAT!? You say she CONTRACTED a SERIOUS and DEADLY ILLNESS that threatens her VERY LIFE!? You say that she's BEDRIDDEN and that her VAGINA has SHRIVELED UP merely by being within a 10 foot radius of me!? You also say that me merely brushing up against her fur has caused an auto-immune response in which the cells inside her body are trying to KILL OFF ALL PHYSICAL TRACES OF MY BEING that have been in contact with her? GOSH DARN IT TO HECK! Is there anything you can do Doctor? What's that? You say that the only cure for her condition is TO BE CONTINUOUSLY PUMPED FULL OF VIRAL ERMINE SEMEN FROM MASTER BLACKWOOD!!? And because she is weak and cannot move on her own I have to use MY TELEKINETIC POWERS TO MANUALLY TRANSPORT MASTER BLACKWOOD'S POTENT SPERM FROM HIS THROBBING MONOLITHIC DICK INTO HER TIGHT FELINE CAT VAGINA!!!! THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL HER PUSSY LOOSEN UP AND FLOW LIKE A RIVER! Well gee willikers, if it's for Blaze's well being I will do what needs to be done. RUTIE-TOOTIE FRESH AND FRUITY KEKAROONY
>>578703830what the fuck is penders's problem
>>578704050He has the western version of Naka's autism.
>>578699279Well that and Sally existing. I still see people today say they would like Amy more if she was the same as the 2000s but was his sister instead....which is...revealing.
>>578703720I'm thinking of getting into underground rock from the 90-2010s. In fact, I think Sonic Team should hire those artists so they can get exposure and show off their talent in Sonic songs
shadow will love maria forever
>>578703467>throws chair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFbBLGHKjy0
>>578704170>Sonic's sister Amy asking him to go on dates with her and marry her.Very interesting indeed...
G-GYEEP! Time portal-san, you've found a NEW DESTINATION for me? And BLAZE is coming too? A-AND SHE'S BRINGING BLACKWOOD WITH HER??? GOLLY! What's that? You're going to ATOMIZE MY BODY and leave me as an INCORPOREAL TIME GHOST? And you're going to make Blaze and Blackwood IMMORTAL? WOWZERS! So I'm going to have to watch master Blackwood RAVAGE Blaze for EONS? And he's going to amass LEGIONS of HULKING, PRIMITIVE SAVAGES to be his MIND-CONTROLLED PEONS? And he's going to use these HORDES OF THROBBING BVLLS to aid him in his MILLENIA-LONG GANGBANGING of Blaze? And the ENTIRE TIME I'll be forced to WATCH, unable to interact with ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT! And you're telling me that Blaze's THOUSANDS OF CAT-ERMINE HYBRID BASTARD CHILDREN will grow up to be PILLAGING RAPISTS that will CONQUER THE PLANET, creating COUNTLESS DISASTERS that I will be ENTIRELY UNABLE to PREVENT, leaving the world in a NEVER-ENDING DARK AGE? Wow, time portal-san, I don't know what to say but YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
The cuckver sperg jeet really wants attention. Or knows Blackwood will be another flopped idw character soon. Or both.
>Evan Stanley villainhe's going to get redeemed anyways and say he's sowwy
>>578704458blazetard...
>>578700298>The main thing about Hakari, to me, is that she's very direct and overwhelmingly passionate about her love for him, I wouldn't say that is particularly exclusive to her.>and she has a Trickster mind behind how she does it.I wouldn't describe Amy as this.Amy being openly affectionate is important. I agree.But I feel people on all sides of the conversation focus too much on Amy's love for Sonic...in relation to Sonic as opposed to in relation to Amy herself and why it matters and is important to her as a person.I get this feeling of people reducing her to "Sonic's love interest" and believing that the key is just getting people on board with her as his main love interest. And dont get me wrong, her dynamic woth him matters. But it only really matters as much as it does to be because I get the character.
>>578704204Nta but look more into archive music channels, often they'll have old obscure rock, emo, punk bands from those eras.Try searching through /Mu/ as well.
>>578704571I can imagine it now
>>578704603the blazetard (that probably thinks of her as nothing but slut meat) is the one spamming the copypastas
>>578704759she literally redeemed scourge in her fanfic and made him die rescuing sonic, then said she planned on resurrecting scourge so he can have a happy ending
>>578702283This.If youre gonna lewd Amy, at least have it be somewhat on model and be cheeky rather than just degenerate.
He thinks I can’t see him
>>578704885To Evan, only mindless beasts can be pure evil. Anyone sapient has good inside them.
Evan is right about fans and wanting violence being their motive around liking certain characters or not.Its also why certain people shill certain stories vs others.People in this fandom want socially or narratively justified or permissible excuses for violence and destruction.
Evan might be too innocent to write villains
>>578705286This is an action series. Imagine trying to say this to Dragon Ball fans or Devil May Cry fans.
>>578705286I hope you'll forgive me if I think redeeming Scourge is a bridge too far
>>578704204I usually don’t go anything past the 90s for good reason.
>>578704656I'll look into them. I like to use Discogs.com as well. I think Sonic soundtracks should also feature traditional music from other cultures like Mexico, Colombia, China, Japan, and South Korea. Something ethnic, kind of like how Sonic and the Secret Rings made extensive use of middle eastern music
>>578705286It's almost like the last mainline Sonic game was hype moments and aura with exploding robots and dbz plagiarism. This is not the franchise for the kind of intimate cute family stories Evan wants to tell
>>578705541Wasn't half of Unleashed's ost regional music? The only ones I can remember are rooftop run, endless possibility, and cool edge
>>578704652>I wouldn't say that is particularly exclusive to her.Every other girlfriend in that show has some sort of unique gimmick to their personality and stuff, but Hakari is just a pure "Deredere" taken to an extreme, and that feels like Amy to me. >>578704652>I wouldn't describe Amy as this.To me, both Sonic & Amy are Trickster + Fool hybrids, and Hakari is an example of the Trickster side for Amy, in my perspective.But really, the exact way I personally view Amy, in some way, is Hakari combined with Pinkie Pie.
>>578705417Except in DragonBall, the violence isn't actually the point. The adventure and the story of growth and overcoming your base destructive instincts and finding your center is.Can't speak for DmC. To me its mostly an edgefest about being a showoff.>>578705435Redeeming Scourge to mr id a problem, but not because its "a bridge too far". Its because I believe it goes against the point of his character.It'd be like redeeming Frieza. You could, but it would defeat the point of the character. He was made to be that guy that can't be redeemed which forces Goku to just take him out.The people who focus on him "deserving it" or it being "too far" are playing their hand and treating redemption as a thing you do to "salvage certain characters the audience likes and wants to see be part of the family" over telling an actual story.
>>578704850how can you be sure?
>>578705534Anything past that isn't good?
>>578705630One of the most beloved and iconic Sonic "things" period is a story about Sonic taking a paraplegic girl to an island to see some flowers.
>>578705673>Every other girlfriend in that show has some sort of unique gimmick to their personality and stuff, but Hakari is just a pure "Deredere" taken to an extreme, and that feels like Amy to me.I feel like you whitewash a lot of Amy's rougher characteristics and focus purely on her just being nice, sweet and a good girl.>>578705673>To me, both Sonic & Amy are Trickster + Fool hybrids, and Hakari is an example of the Trickster side for Amy, in my perspective.Wouldn't be the first time you were wrong about something, Sparky.
>>578705959We need more of that Sonic
>>578705812>Redeeming Scourge to mr id*to me is
>>578705959>>578706145Fuck off. Sonic X isn't Sonic.
>>578706145arguably with Sage they're back to the regularly scheduled girlfriend of the week
>>578705648It did have regional music but it sounded unconventional since it sometimes used instruments that are not used in those genres. An example is the music of Shamar in Unleashed. Shamar is obviously based on the middle east but the melody being played in the hub world's theme is being played on a saxophone even though that's not what's used to play that kind of music over there. They would instead use the zurna, the old, or even human vocals
>Sonic games remove humans out of fear that they alienate audiences >Sonic movies add as many humans as possible out of fear of alienating audiences
>>578706145>Stupid, terminally online Sonadow fujo trying to sneak her fetish into the collage even though it doesn't belong
>>578706145>>578706379Shadow The Hedgehog doesn't even fit the theme of this image in any fucking way. Sonic does not play the role of your "boyfriend" in any conceivable way
>>578706242 (me)*the oud
>>578706145I remember even jaded 90sboomers liked that epsiode of Sonic X. Even the ones that hated on the show. Its THAT iconic and beloved. It's quintessential Sonic.I also love how it plays into Sonic's love of nature. Too many people try to frame him as a tree hugging hippy when he more just liked nature because he likes it's beauty and vibes.
>>578706374Why is Sega trying to have it both ways? It's so stupid
>>578706374>The fans come to the games for the furries because they resonate with them>Non-fans and japanese people need humans because otherwise they can't resonate with the characters
>>578706374In the interviews for the movies Paramount did not understand any of the Sonic stuff and brought audiences would like it more if it was just earth. They almost vetoed the death egg robot for being too weird
>>578706079>I feel like you whitewash a lot of Amy's rougher characteristics and focus purely on her just being nice, sweet and a good girl.That's not what I'm trying to convey at all. >Wouldn't be the first time you were wrong about something, Sparky.How am I wrong, though? Both Sonic & Amy's general personalities are like, at their core, running on the same system as the classic Mickey Mouse before his personality was fractured. Which is, like, a hybrid of the Trickster and the Fool. Sonic takes that general personality and frames it through the lens of "cool". The exact way I view Sonic is, like, ... Spider-Punk crossed with Luffy, to add up to a complete and total personification of freedom as both a rebel and just being true to himself as a guy that loves adventure. Amy takes that general personality and frames t through the lens of a genki girl, whose more passionate and emotional in contrast to Sonic being cool and aloof. So the exact way I view her is like, Hakari and Pinkie Pie. Hakari to express the extreme "Deredere" in how unapologetically open and unfiltered she is in her love for Sonic, and the relentless pursuit aspect of that for the chase dynamic they have. And Pinkie to express Amy's overwhelming energy towards everyone in general, her optimism, her cheerfulness, but also her love for excitement and adventure and having fun and hating being bored, and generally being Sonic-like but in a "genki girl" way rather than "cool". Both Sonic & Amy are short tempered, impulsive, impatient, thrill-seeking, rebellious, free-spirits who love action and adventure, with a very carefree attitude and a pure heart, living by their own feelings above all else without any regard to how anyone else views them. But that gets expressed in very different ways because Sonic is cool, aloof and detached while Amy wears her heart on her sleeve and believes in fairy tale romance stuff, which creates the friction between the two.
phewcrossworlds is hard
Need me a bitch like this
>>578706912>Sonic dies>Amy...shrugsWOOOOOW
>>578706805>calling them furries>calling yourself a fanRed flagNone of these people "resonate" with the characters. They are all malajusted people who hate themsleves and dissociate from their bodies and fantasize about skinwalking the characters instead because they hate humans and people.
>>578706983>>578698179
>>578707042???Both times Sonic was believed to have died, Amy was bawling her eyes out. Sonic is cool headed, aloof and detached, but Amy is hot headed and very emotional. Behind that, both Sonic & Amy share virtually the same personality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiJbl7ad7_QSlow Learner by Hurl (1996)Good Night.
>>578707141Any time I see him all I can hear is this fucker
>>578707141Literally Sonurge
>>578706912Sonic's personality was never Mickey.He just took some cues design-wise from him.Sonic and Amy's dynamic is even inverted. Instead of just being a boring generic cartoon couple, Sonic is aloof and sigma, and Amy chases him around on adventures.You have this equivocation issue in general where you rely on comparisons to say anything about a character, usually going off of surface level elements and extrapolating from there that the characters "are essentially the same but".
>>578707171I'm referring to Sonic Forces.
>>578707105>calling them furriesCall them cartoons or blobians anon, idgaf.
>>578707171>Sonic is cool headed, aloof and detachedIs that why he smiles like a psychopath in picrel? Is he also emotionally detached and unable to feel sorrow?
>>578707284Amy is sad the entire time on hopium copium that Sonic is still alive.
>>578707281Putting all comparisons or examples and whatever aside, what I ultimately said is: >>578706912>Both Sonic & Amy are short tempered, impulsive, impatient, thrill-seeking, rebellious, free-spirits who love action and adventure, with a very carefree attitude and a pure heart, living by their own feelings above all else without any regard to how anyone else views them. But that gets expressed in very different ways because Sonic is cool, aloof and detached while Amy wears her heart on her sleeve and believes in fairy tale romance stuff, which creates the friction between the two.Isn't this exactly how Sonic & Amy's own personalities are?
>>578707141>Male character gets sexually assaulted>Treated as the perfect romance dynamicI hate this gay earth
>If the character isn't visibly on the ground in massive sob, they are an emotionless psychopath.>t.person who claims to care about empathy
>>578707492>Isn't this exactly how Sonic & Amy's own personalities are?Sure but it also ignores a lot of other elements about the characters as they exist indepdnantly from one another rather than just relationally.
Life is full of missed opportunities.https://youtu.be/Guzdhv5tBFIGod forbid I ever come back here.
>>578707538This is the reason why comicfags suck
>>578707538
>>578707384No, Sonic is detached from all worldly concerns as if he trained under Tibetan monks to let go his earthly tether and become free as the wind. He is not without emotion, he is not without compassion, he is not a psychopath. He just doesn't let it show, he doesn't let it get to him. He maintains a cool head and remains calm and collected no matter what. When it's time to act, he acts without hesitation. When it's all said and done, he moves on. Sonic lives life by his own feelings and does what he thinks is right. He never wastes precious time because he gets things done immediately. So he never has time to worry when he can just lift his head and run. >>578707686What else really needs to be said? Everything Amy, for example, is generally Sonic filtered through a girly, feminine lens which leads to her interest in fortune telling and mystic things, fashion, baking, and other stuff that relates back to her being an energetic and optimistic girl that lives by her feelings just as much as Sonic does. Like Sonic, Amy is rebellious and a proactive go-getter, but she's much louder about it with a much larger emphasis on the whims of the heart. She openly values relationships and social connection far more than Sonic does. Where Sonic will just drop off the face of the earth and disappear from everyone's life on a whim, Amy comparably is much more connected to everyone around her and prioritizes her relationships with them while also chasing after Sonic all over the world when she wants to. Not to say that Sonic doesn't value connection, but he's the kind of guy to probably not even think of contacting Tails for 99% of the time until he randomly shows up again, says "long time no see" and it's like he was never even gone in the first place.
>>578704759This is still one of funniest panels of the end arc. The other is Nalt calling Obito the coolest guy lol>>578704885>Scourge literally committed rape by deception in comicLmfao I don’t know why tumblr women love misogynistic male characters so much, for all the bitching they do about female characters they turn around just to lap up male characters who would for sure bully them to suicide.
>>578708205>Sonic is detached from all worldly concerns as if he trained under Tibetan monks to let go his earthly tether and become free as the wind.Why is he characterized like this? is this some kind of way Japanese people self-insert as him? Is it some kind of Japanese-style autism?
Please God let me die. I don’t care about the girl anymore. Just let me die so I don’t continue my own suffering.
>>578705286She’s half right but it doesn’t help that Belle isn’t much endearing.
>>578708492He's just a free spirit, it's not that complicated. I said Sonic is like a Trickster and a Fool combined, and that is Sonic's "Fool" side.
>>578706650>jaded 90sboomersand now we have jaded 2000szoomers. Fascinating, isn't it.
>>578709541Sonia would hate Sally for walking around nude
>>578708205>>578708643>>578706912Sparky...
>>578708635That's not how this fanbase operates. The fanbase will actively complain about characters they have decided are lame getting good writing or doing things thry think is cool.Like Classicfans being tsundere for Shadow.Belle's design and being a puppet-y girl who isn't some other character's love interest or something means when she does do something cool or endearing, it gets dismissed because the audience sees her as "undeserving" of it.Meanwhile slop characters like Tangle or characters with like almost no actual material are "more deserving" because people like their design or some adjacentism conceptually about them.Its kind of like how people call Goten and Kid Trunks as "wasted" rather than mid or blah characters just because they are saiyans and the kids of the MC and his rival, ignoring the fact Goten only exists because they needed a Kod Goku somewhere since Goku died again and Gohan was growing up.
Who would be better to have butt-sex with, Knuckles with four cocks, or Sonic or Shadow?
>>578687821It was a team decision, a mere scriptwriter is lower in having a say in what character gets to be in the game than producer or director.besides Blaze was thought of as ''slut meat trophy wife' before Silver, it was a thing since people misread Rush ending, most of this cuck copypasta are being spammed by sonazefags or blazefags themselves. enough scapegoating cope.
>>578709540The jaded 2000sboomers are actually mostly right though.But many 90sBoomers did observe real problems but make bad arguments and proposed bad solutions.
Japanese don't deserve Sonic.
>>578709931>are actually mostly right though.On what, extreme edge shit? Godawful alternate play styles clogging Sonic? Tertiary characters filling screentime over actual primary ones?
>>578710124Everything
>>578707538>>578707958>>578708108Who are you quoting?
>>578710124Yes
>>578707958B-but muh toxic masculinity!
>>578710627Why self reply tho
>"YAY! It's bed time! I'm gonna go put on my bing bing wahoo man pajamas so Blaze can tuck me in and read me a bedtime story!" Silver giddily exclaimed jumping up and down>"SILVER!" Blaze angrily shouted as she busted down the door and held up dirty discolored sheets>"WHAT IS THIS? DID YOU WET THE BED AGAIN!!??">"I'm sorry Blaze, I had a nightmare last night of when Lanolin yelled at me with her scary voice for trying to expose mimic and I couldn't control myself" Silver whined now on the verge of tears>"Silver..." Blaze signed "you are a telekinetic warrior from the future, destroyer of the flames of disaster, and a member of the hedgehog trio with a super form. You can't keep acting like this.">"B-But portal-chan says.">"I DON'T CARE WHAT PORTAL-CHAN SAYS!">"You need to learn to be confident and capable...like Master Blackwood! Blaze said with a longing tone and as if on cue, Blackwood entered the room to pull in Blaze into a loving embrace while gripping her now plump ass from all the gourmet food she has been eating.>"She's right Silver, no one likes a pansy ass faggot. Now if you promise to behave yourself, Blaze and I will take you to Chao park tomorrow after our daily exchange of bodily fluids. Can you be a good boy until then?>Silver's eyes lightened up in excitement "I'll be a good boy, I'll be the bestest boy, I'll be such a good boy everyone will call me a precious cinnamon roll!!!"
>>578710813Because he's a miserable sad loser.
>>578708492People don't self insert as Sonic in japan.Sonic is meant to be a magical scrimblo friend like Dorarmon, not a self insert.
>>578707538Comics used to be cooler back in the day. Everything was, but only the east makes pure coolness these days.
>>578710813I didn't
>>578711130Source: dude trust me
Blade of Courage is how Sonic should be.
>>578711535Japanese AOSTH knock-off isn't Sonic.
And blade of courage suck ass so what does it tell us about Jap's lack of care about sonic, making him a lowly sidekick with no personality
>>578708492Sonic is free
>>578708643There's a difference between being a free spirit and being a monk. Free spirits in real life just do whatever they want but they're not detached from worldly concerns
>>578711206Nah, comics were never cool.The problem with Comics is that they are done by commity and the editors are just exist to make shit PG and do minor edits instead of being properly involved with the process.All the best manga were both written by like 1 dude and they had an editor that worked directly with the mangaka in real time.This resulted on more personal, throughout and focused stories that actually appealed to the demographic rather than relying on just appeasing manchildren who wanted to sound like they were smarter than the writers by pointing out random things that make the story "unrealistic" or whatever.
>>578711489I dunno why you assume everyone is guilty of your same bad habits. Why are americans like this?
Sonic being above worldly temptations is super cool because you can rape him and he won't be traumatized
>>578711641thing is not everyone can afford to be a free spirit :/
>>578711762>american out of nowherewindtard...
Sonic is already shown to be immune to every possible earthly weakness except for impatience. If you start introducing those extra "human" flaws now how is that any different from Sonic Forces suddenly making Tails a coward?
>>578711623>americans with main character sybdrome self insert as a cereal mascot >blame said cereal mascot for being a cereal mascot and call him a narcisist with main character syndrome.>complain about him being the main character when he is.
>>578711489You really got under the shitposter's skin, he immediately started projecting.
>>578711641Sonic represents the wind. The best comparison is like the culture of the Air Nomads from Avatar: the Last Airbender. >"Air is the element of freedom. The Air Nomads detached themselves from worldly concerns and found peace and freedom."This general description is basically the same idea behind Sonic.
>>578709369
>>578711130That's why there's usually a human?
>>578711905>doesn't deny the accusationwestie....
>americans americans americansThe first Sonic movie has a human protagonist because they too thought that audiences wouldn't identify with Sonic
>>578712000Yes, the Human tagalong is the self-insert.
Pikoi wish amy's hammer looked a bit more like pico pico hammer
>>578711910Tails needs to be a knowitall jerk.Sonic needs to repent for his sins of having confidence and not being insecure about everything.t.Tails Lawyer
>>578711910westfags don't care about this, they just want sonic to be a self insert
Damn, the weeaboo are projecting their own insecurities again.
>>578711972Sonic isn't an air nomad monk...This is what i mean Sparky. You are your stupid "web of knowledge".Yes Sonic just comes and goes and isn't particularly concerned with normal human bs. But he isn't a Buddha or something who is emotionally detached and leg go of earthly pleasures either. He is justa chill dude who goes with the flow.
haha yea sonic is like the wind ya haha woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>578711972I have no idea if Sonic Team wants Sonic to be a monk or some kind of cross between Tony Hawk and Goku. Portraying Sonic as if he were a detached monk makes him feel like a Gary Stu who can't be exploited and taken advantage of. Nothing fazes him or deceives him. He magically ends up winning every single time and even his impatience doesn't get him into trouble
>>578712470>Tony Hawk and GokuIf you just tell everyone to write Sonic like this they will get it without fumbling it
>sonic isn't sonic, sonic is [character from another franchise]This is why I don't trust japs or weebs with Sonic, they have no idea who Sonic really is.>b-b-b-but he's the windNo, he's a hedgehog. If you played the game, you'd know.>b-but the windNo. Hedgehog. Not wind.>b-b-b-b-b-but avatarIrrelevant.>buuuuuut-Stop it. Get some help.
>>578712000Yes.Japanese people actually typically need something overt to signal a character is meant for you to project into typically. Its why the silence protagonist is a thing they still do.But Sonic even in the 90s always spoke because he was never a self insert.He was a little guy who was cool and neat to watch do his thing you went on cool adventures with.Its why humans exist. Sonic isn't supposed to be just the average dude but with superpowers like Peter Parker. Humans showed he was a curiosity, not a stand in for the audience.
>>578712623No Sonic isn't a hedgehog he's a videogame character
>>578712623If you consumed any Sonic media you'd know it's literally in American media too. Sonic is the wind. Cope and seethe.
>>578712069This is actually false. Its because the Hollywood execs were like "so its like ET right?" and we're insistent on using a familiar mold.
>>578712623fun fact all american sonic media is shit and invalid. you like noncanon fanfics.
"they're finally using music in the sonic movies!"sonic movie 3 doesn't have more sonic music in it than the first sonic movie
reminder the games, made by sonic team, specifically the jp versions, will always be the only real sonic canon
>>578712623Sonic is a Japanese series and 4chan is a weeaboo site.
>>578712815The Mania music in Sonic 1 always catches me off guard
>>578712567That's how you get good games too. Sonic games were in terms of story and visually like a mix between the Tony Hawk games and DBZ
>>578712908TRVKE
>>578712259>t-thing Japan!Yes, actually
>>578712623You struck a lot of nerves, the weeaboo are FURIOUS
>>578713073Weeaboo site :3
sonic's internal character profile probably says something vague about the wind and having a short temper and that's why all of his western counterpart are obnoxious teenagers who get mad very easily
>>578713073Back to your containment board. >>>/co/
>>578713104It's just because westies are awful at interpreting media and so autistic they need to box all the characters into some unoriginal american capeshit trope.
>>578713139Sonic /co/ threads are unusable because there's a particularly angry JP purist there who shows up to shit on every thread
>>578713236>JP PuristYou mean a Sonic fan who follows the creators intent and not random fanfics?
Nothing is canon
>>578713073So did you, the weebs are damn furious.
>>578713217It isn't American's fault that "Short tempered" is taken to mean that he gets mad and has an ego instead of just being slightly impatient
>>578712470>Gary StuYou dont know what a Gary stu is
>>578713236>JP puristYou mean losers like Ken-Sama who would literally eat shit if they were told it's Japanese shit? What a bunch of losers, lol.
>>578712623Even Ben Hurst said Sonic is like the wind
>>578713467westies don't consume their own media. that's why archie sold like garbage. nobody actually likes unsupervised amerishit sonic.
sex with hags
>>578713217Allen famously said the american comicbook industry was ass because of this.
>>578713236>JP puristThey aren't lol. They are a /co/fag. They just hate Westnic and are a shiptard.
nobody actually likes american sonic comics. they sell less than 6k per issue.
>>578713775Who are you talking to? Are you having an episode again?
goodnighttry not to make too much noise
>>578713953seethe harder
Americans self inserting by default shows americans have narcisistic main-character syndrome.
>>578713953You won, it's seething.
Blitz is canceled and the freedom fighters are still dead
>>578713958SCANA
>>578712115
inserting myself into americans
>>578676428Sex with Zavok and his boyfriend Vector!
>>578713290The problem is that half of the creators intent is absolute dog shit and considerably inferior to whatever the fuck the American side is doing.It's Sonic you can't be a JAP/ENG purist, the entire character was made in both versions simultaneously.
>>578714728>It's Sonic you can't be a JAP/ENG purist, the entire character was made in both versions simultaneously.Translation: I want Satamnic to be canon
>>578714728No it wasn't faggot. Sonic took some inspiration from America but also took inspiration from China and Ancient Greek and Arabian culture. You can in fact be a Jap purist, it's the default. >The problem is that half of the creators intent is absolute dog shitName examples lol. You won't pussy
>>578712115they experimented with a more conventional design but settled on the rubber one in the end.
>>578714843it's going to be shipping related
>>578714728
>>578712115Emi piko!
>>578714996Intent =/= fact.And the cold, objective truth is that Japs don't care.
>>578714728>It's Sonic you can't be a JAP/ENG purist, the entire character was made in both versions simultaneously.This is SoA ans Westfag propaganda.Ohshima made Sonic to be liked in general. They made him more westish, but in the way Japanese people see Americans. The idea he was desifned by committee is a lie. He never was. The American version by SoA was.
>>578715067Japs care far more than fags like Ian or Penders ever cared. What, you gonna tell me people like Gigi the tranny or Evan the Uwuverfujo care more? Please. Maekawa said he'd cut off his own arm for SA2, Americans would never.
>>578714728>half of the creators intent is absolute dog shit and considerably inferior to whatever the fuck the American side is doing.There isn't a single argument you can make to support this that has actual substance and isnt just appealing to generic patterns youre familiar with with slop tier kids cartoons from when you were 11.
>>578715153>Japs care far moreNice fanfic.
>>578715067saying that after iizuka lost 20 pounds while working on heroes and almost died trying to finish it. you know your westie writers could use a 20 pound weight loss. or 200. fat fucks.
>>578715290What, did they accidentally write your pet character in a way that made you have a traumatic flashback to being shoved in a locker at school? Is this a Tailsfag?
Naka and Oshima worked overtime when developing Sonic because they were that passionate. Americans complained constantly about working in the games and series.Iizuka literally starved working on Heroes because he cared that much, and was still thinking about the series and what to do next while he was recovering.But sure the Japanese didnt care.
Westnic glazers think JP Sonic is bad because he doesn't want to marry Sally.
wow look how much westerners care
>>578715347>jap almost dies making a game because he's a dumbass>somehow it's positive that he's retardedCringe...
>>578712115>>578714630Yea i remember wooden hammer gags or generic hammer gags in older anime but saw the pico pico one like amy's the first time in kodocha now.
>>578715407Westerners are idea guys who want to control the franchise without actually putting the real work into it. The Lore Team is a big example of that.
Western "Care"
>>578715545>>578715570>>578715665Who are you talking to? Are you off your meds?
>>578713375Sonic being immune to emotional and physical exploitation would make him a Gary Stu. You wouldn’t be able to make him angry, sad, hateful, nervous, or gullible enough for him to make a miscalculation. You wouldn’t be able to make him lose by depriving him of eyesight, hearing, touch, and smell either. You wouldn’t be able to break him by making him feel hungry, thirsty, tired, or dizzy. A Gary Stu is a male character that’s unrealistically free from flaws
I don't think the westerners "care".I think they Know how to make Sonic work as a global IP, better than just the Japanese side of SEGA.
>>578715570i like satam, aosth and find some entertainment in archie but i hate when they ruin the jap kino
>>578715831Only Fowler.
how did ian not know that chaos control can teleport
Westkino is much better than japslop because westkino actually made Sonadow canon. Prime is canon and Sonadow is canon in Prime, so it's the first canon Sonic ship. All the VAs support it. The show creators support it. Companies support it. Sega of America won, Japslop lost.
>>578715665Hit Detection was responsible for this. I can’t believe Sonic Team actually hired them. Get these woke activist morons out of my favorite franchise
would you?
>>578715831The Japanese side of Sega has been retarded for decades."hey we got a guy who can make us chip" for cheap""THIS IS NOT THE NIPPON WAY""well he's gone and sold his chip to Sony, nice job retards""hey we have fans who want to make a fuckload of Sonic games""ONRY ONE GAME, AND WE PUT DENUVO ON IT""Nice job now he's gone to make his own game and his entire team left too, they're disgusted with Sega, good job retards""Hey Sonic Adventure 2 was well-received how about sonic adventure 3-""NO, FUCKING GAIJIN, YOU WILL GET SHITTY SONIC HELOES OR WE WILL SAY SONIC DOESNT SELL"
you guys have to stop
>>578715640Modern anime use it all the time actually. Some even use it for aura.https://youtu.be/UbjMy5pe6Ow
In character...on model...cool...cute...big boobs...Japkino...
>>578715756>Sonic being immune to emotional and physical exploitation would make him a Gary Stu.No.... That's not even close to how that works.That's like saying "Tails being a super genuis makes him.a Gary stu, he can pull out any science based solution out his ass".Characters are allowed to have certain strengths and weaknesses, especially if the point is to service their story function and themes.A Gary Stu is an insert character who wins and is liked by everyone for no reason in a way that feels indulgent.The Rookie for example is pretty Stu-ish.
What's wrong with the weeaboos that they're unable to have a friendly discussion without namecalling like they're 7?
>>578715831>I think they Know how to make Sonic work as a global IP, better than just the Japanese side of SEGA.No they don't...The problem is simply that SoJ, Sonic Team and SoA have conflict of interest.
>>578716086So much context removed from this.
>>578716498What does SoA event want from Sonic?
>>578716440yeah as if you don't tell people to die because they don't worship archie characterizations. you do all the time
>>578716440>What's wrong with the weeaboos that they're unable to have a friendly discussion without namecalling like they're 7?>calls people weaboos and japcucks
>>578716668I literally never did that, you're projecting AGAIN.Not beating the allegations anytime soon.
Shadally
>>578716139I don't rlly watch modern anime
What do Westards even want? If you gave Sonic to America you'd just get IDW but uglier and gayer and whispangle and sonadow would be canon. You wouldn't get Sally or the tone of the older American media back. It was a product of the times and those times are gone. The people who worked on it are all dead or lost their touch and talent or a literal bluesky tranny. No seriously what do you want? The talent is gone. The culture that created it is gone. The 90s and 00s are over.
>>578716498Cut SOA off. They want to change the characters and turn the franchise into high budget Tumblr fan fiction
>>578716591The people involved with Sonic at SoA want to leave their mark on the series and be the one to "fix" it by turning it into something else they are already familiar with. They like the character designs and vaguely recognize surface level elements and wanna use them for whatever unrelated thing they have in mind instead.The actual corporate side wants to turn it into Nick Jr TMNT clone.SoJ just wants to make more Sonic. They also would like Sonic to become more popular on Japan so they can have more leverage over the brand again.SoJ doesn't care and just think since Sonic sells in the west, SoA should have more leverage since the games could be made to lipsync tl English and thus appear to have higher production value and thus look better as a mascot for the company.
>>578716873>The talent is goneIndeed, that's why Sonic games suck ass.
>>578716774Not even stuff like One Punch Man?
>>578716967>projecting
Westfags exist to live in the past and insult japfags for liking the characters
I’m a sick fuck
Ages = JapanNo Ages = AmericaFight me
>>578717784Nah westerners are the ones that care about ages actually affecting the characters besides vague acessories, like expecting sonic to be a ''realistic teenager'' or attacking ships because ''X character is tooyoung''
>>578717962Ages were canon for 20 years and then removed while the games are written by americans
>>578717057Latest one i watched is Aggretsuko's 2023 season 5, but i have some stuff i want to watch later than that.
>>578718050Japanese didn't really refer to them in the actual games, and removing ages is an internal decision that writers don't have effect over. i don't really mind ages being non canon it removes the time passage question and also removes a lot of moralfag debates people only use to virtue signal.
>Sonic Team created the lore team>But the lore team doesn’t know how to create and maintain a good timeline and instead only changes the characters’ English personalities and dialogue
Go to bed
>>578718070Killa la Kill?
>>578718590It's 3 pm, and it's too hot to sleep.
>>578718159>removes a lot of moralfag debates people only use to virtue signal.It kind of doesn't. People who moralfag do so because they start from wanting to, not the reverse.Moralfags acrively ask for ages to come back now because they see Ages being gone as "enabling pdfs". You can't really erase the past like that. Even if they aged the characters, people would moralfag
>>578718769Yea but i've seen more people be ok with like, Rougamy fanart now like i see artists doing it without twitter mob now.they still moralfag over tails cream etc but thats to be expected.>>578718648no
>>578718159those same people will moralfag either way and no one EVER cared about if you sexualize Sonic himself.
>>578719516It's only bad if you sexualize Amy or Blaze
You guys argue a lot
>>578719648welcome to the internet
>>578719717Have a look around.
>>578720170leddit the song
>>578716082Only if he gives me consent
>>578684354One thing i can praise Shadikal for is that it at least does ''Shadria but i don't want to get cancelled for twitter'' thing better than shadamy does. that's the only reason it even exists though.
>>578721839I have nothing against shadikal but it's pretty funny how it's often like "I think it's like shadria but not incest so shadow basically gets to fuck his sister anyways"
>>578721956No incest, and no zoophilia, and no pedophilia. Wow that's a lot of points over mariapedos
>>578722037I mean if shadria is ''pedo'' then sonamy also is, shadow is not an adult man lol.you don't even take the sibling coding shit seriously and no one actually does, ''zoophilia'' is the only actual filter for normalfags
>>578686540They jerk off to every sonic character male or female. but ye they probably want to fuck silver especially for the memes.
wow you guys are sad
>>578722324Better than being married with Kids.
>>578722475Don't you fucking diss Surge... oh wait, you said "kids", not "Kit".
>>578722186Most mobians don't grow up in size. Shadow is already taller than many of them, and as an adult he would be the same size as he is now
>>578722673Are you sure? Why is the great owl so big in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqYo8130hhA , then?Checkmate.
>>578722037Tikal is 14 years old for eternity so does it really help in any way
tika? isn't she like tw dead?
>>578722673Shadow never will become an adult as he's an artificial being that will forever look like the 15 year old he's based on, Vanilla being one of the older blobians are taller than the teen cast. and ofc the ''kids'' like tails, cream ,marine etc. are shorter.idc if you jack off to shadow or sonic without thining they are 15 but you don't have to pretend shadria shippers see them as an adult man and a kid or that was the intent of the duo(rgegardless of platonic or romantic) by sonic team.
>Tikal is better than Maria because no pedo>14 years old how is 14 better what the fuck man
>>578722886Tikal is 3000 years old
>>578723169Shadow is 14-15 like all the other sonic-likes this whole debate on either side is pointless.
>>578723169Don't try to get any logic from the zoophiles.
If these people were morally consistent it would be wrong to sexualize Sonic or Amy too
>>578723579>>578723285Why are we assuming it's about who we want to fuck rather than if the characters are approitate for shadow's intended age range?
>>578723756NTA but all shippers are rapists. This goes all the way back to the OG Star Trek Slash fiction that started this.
>>578723756>approitateME GOOD ENGLISH, YES?
>>578723867Both maria and Tikal are in an approitate age range for shadou (well 12/14 or 12/15 is arguably questionable but that's also sonamy) the normalfag filter is mostly just the anthro x human aspect.
>>578696709That's because Ian and Evan were originally going to have Tangle and Whisper leech off Silvaze. In the beginning parts of idw, Tangle was considered a big fangirl of Blaze to contrast Silver being a big fan of Whisper. Silver and Whisper stuck around as a thing, but Blaze and Tangle never went anywhere. This is why Gabs shills Whispangle, it's part of the Silvaze agenda and justifying it through other characters. Ship duos.
>>578724056>That's because Ian and Evan were originally going to have Tangle and Whisper leech off SilvazeCitation needed.>This is why Gabs shills WhispangleCitation needed.>Trump never stole the electionCITATION NEEDED
>>578724056Silvisper is mostly Silvaze rehash anyway, read a bit more of IDW and it's uwu Cheerful innocent boy + the strong tuff girl that's actually defensive and shy, amy even compares the two.
>>578724157>Trump never stole the electionThis "stole the election" thing is getting really stale since 2020.
>>578724157I'm not a silvaze schizo but it's interesting that whispangle is the only non straight ship gabs draws or likes.
I have concocted the rapiest ship: Scourge x Belle
>>578724285Were any of the conspirators sent to jail? Is the Beast still in office? No? Then I'll keep bringing it up.
>>578724171I wish we could kill goonerism and focus more on good stories instead of that kind of appeal.Not that you can't mansturbate, but that belongs in a porn site.
>>578724347Belle would apologized for getting raped
>>578724470Nophono cares and jews control america.
>>578724157Read the earlier issues from 4-13. Tangle would go crazy for Blaze after the issue they were introduced to each other in. >Gabshttps://x.com/giugabs/status/1883582142346870861https://x.com/giugabs/status/1651430732424781830https://x.com/giugabs/status/1651386666634936320https://x.com/giugabs/status/1623353779956420608https://x.com/giugabs/status/1957996352320802923https://x.com/giugabs/status/1938261911122153749https://x.com/giugabs/status/1866524325257310527I don't think she legitimately ships them, she was only hoping that SOA would canonize their romance and pave the way to allowing more. She uses them as a shield to deflect criticisms against Silvaze too. Ironically, whispangle has way more justification to stick around than silvaze ever will by virtue of having a proper debut together and not taking a completely unrelated character and pasting them onto another.
>>578703830The whole Shadally joke was that it's too stupid to be canon and then Penders had to open his FAT FUCKING FACE
>>578724836Sonic team will have enough justification for silvaze anyway without whispangle since the upcoming arc looks like it will be well received enough that it even got easternfags on board, mostly because of blackwood fujos rather than silvaze itself but still.
>>578724836>I don't think she legitimately ships themGlad we agree
>>578724836Why do you know so much about this person
>>578725324it's pretty easy just to type >from:giugabs whispangleinto xitter search engine
>>578725324''Sonaze/Blazefag who made it their life mission to defeat silvaze'' they are usually like that, that and gabs had a drama with ian supposedly that idk the details of, so she's somewhat famous.
>whispangle apologists ittYeah, enough internet for today
>>578724836I think she really likes Silvaze probably
Crashdow Crash
Shota/Kemoshota supremacy.
>>578725751Is Crashdow a good read?
>>578725568>gabs had a drama with ian supposedly Really? Do you know where I can read the details?
If I was given control of the IDW comics, I'd do everything I can to lump Tangle with Sonic and Whisper with Silver, just to shut the Whispangle fags the fuck up.
>>578725864Idk i didn't read it myself but people say it's a reason bumblekast stopped
>>578726028The bad ending is the canon ending between. He never got over Sonic's death and that's why he needs to be taken down eventually no matter what
>>578725913make some REAL crack, like pairing them up with rough and tumble
>>578726191I really hope Shadow Generations won't be forgotten. Having Shadow turning into Alex Mercer has a lot of potential.Shame that Sega is decided to ruin any kind of narrative.
>>578726359Shadow the Hedgehog 2 is gonna start with him getting amnesia again
So Sonic just accepts that his wife is married to Shadow...
>>578726294I've come to love autism like this unironically.
>>578726294>Make sure to say Shadow's crown is manlier for extra cuck points
>>578726461Bold of you to assume we'll get Shadow 2. My understanding of Sega is that they embrace mediocrity, so whenever a game does well, they follow with a horrendous game.We won't get Shadow 2, we won't get Mania 2...
>>578726527He chooses freedom over being married to Sally because that would involve him being king which he never wanted in his life.
>>578726609>he then proceeds to carry Sonic in his arms like the lady he is compared to him.
They are all happy
I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry
>>578726759>Standing together and looking very couple-likewhy is he rubbing it in so hard
>>578726759why he;s wearing that blue glove like that paper was toxic or worthy of preserving
>>578726968Do you want to touch an 80 dollar shipping fanfic with your bare hands?
>>578726759>If seeing SALLY with SHADOW was a SLAP in the face, the sight of the KIDS was a DIRECT SHOT in the gut...HAHAHAHAHA FUCKING PENDERS
>>578707251Surge and MCU Jean Gray are nothing alike nor is the dynamics.
>>578726759>>578726527So I'm supposed to believe Ken understood that Sonic would feel better off outside of married life and royalty but then he goes and makes Shadow happy and comfortable with it?
Are you proud, Scribbles?
Archiebros at one point claimed their Sonic was the most "Chad" version of the character. Kek!
>>578726759why does kenny the penny hate sonally that much? is it because of Ian? I can't prove it but there's no way that was in his og plans. it reads like a spitefic
>>578698179No she's not.
>>578727251Dude originally wanted to kill Sally but SoA stopped him.
I kinda wish shadally happened, not because i liked it but if this was the ending it would save us from a lot of the 00s shipwars.
>Shadow pumped her full of babies and they are happier than she ever was with Sonic and Shadow mellowed out completely into a nice happy guy willing to help SonicThis is just evil. This is the kind of hatred even a JP Purist doesn't have.
They didnt even consume their marriage once
Sonic coming to terms with the fact Sally is more happier with Shadow than she ever was with him and moving on is character development.
>>578727454This entire sentence is complete and utter chaos
>>578725864Gabs leaked something from Ian's bumblekast discord that had details of the sxsg rewrite because she was scared Ian would retcon Blaze remembering 06/Crisis City. She also had some kind of drama with Gigi too
Guess who wonned
>>578727654I'm never fucking with Duofag again. Next thing we'll hear that Sonurge was meant to be canon.
>>578727407Ken isn't a JPfag, his hate for Sonally isn't born from characterizationfagging or purism, he just thinks it sucks and that's more dangerous than someone trying to pick fandom sides. Remember how he said he planned to have Sally lose her virginity to Geoffrey before Sonic? Lol, he wanted that ship humiliated.
>>578727747>Sonurge was meant to be canonIt is
>>578727804Ken Penders is risking getting sued for copyright infringement just to stick it to Sonally one more time?
>>578727572Damn that's so stupid. Blaze remembering Crisis City of the one and only thing I wanted Ian to rewrite.
>>578727891Brah, neither Archie or Sega are touching him. That's why he's doing all this shit. Both parties have disowned Archie Sonic, Penders can do whatever.
>>578727891The man's almost 70 and clearly as autistic as any other Sonic fan, do ya think he cares?
I think it's weird that Sally and Shadow just casually explain all of this to Sonic and it doesn't seem to occur to them that he might have some perspective about this. "Hey look at our kids!"I can't even imagine Shadow happily showing Sonic his children.
Was Sally the Shadow of the Classic era? If not, who was?
>>578727909Blaze remembering 06 actually makes more sense than any other character imo since she got dimension trasported before the timeline erase. ofc colors ds pretends she still has phantom meories that may or may not come back but still.
>>578728191>Edgy character with dramatic stakes and backstory who keeps stealing Sonic's protagonist role because she's the creator's pet who gets all the attention
Still tragic that Archie fans have one of their original writers basically come out and state they wanted to completely dismantle Sonally and all those bad moments were intentional, confirming Sonally wasn't the gold goose of the comic after all as it was supposedly believed.The other writers didn't give a shit about it either. Bollers wanted Sonic to get with Amy. Sonally was always set up to fail. Even when Ian tried to bring it back, Sega stepped in and said Sonic ain't dating nobody anymore. And then the reboot happened and Sally became gay with Nicole.
Did penders ship sonic with anyone or did he have any ships besides shadally?
>>578728396I actually don't know. Whose idea was it for Sonic to date Fiona that one time?
>>578728450mine
>>578728323Replace "edgy" with "Sexy" and yeah, that's on point.
>>578728396I can't prove it but I am pretty sure Penders considered Fiona to be Sonic's final love interest. There was a youtube video where he was interviewed and admitted that. Fiona being evil was due to a disagreement about that
>>578728274I don't mind if Blaze remembers or not if Sega had a plan. But they clearly don't so, if you are not going to bother fixing your mess at least let people make it consistent.
>>578728585Wow. Sonic x Fiona actually could've been Sonic's endgame in Archie in another life.
>>578728585So ian sabotaged fiona and made her evil to prevent Soniona from happening?i'm not invested in archie ships at all but Soniona and Shadally would save a lot of the headaches shipwars from 00s caused.
>escapes prison and abuse and starts following sonicwow. fiona was the surge of archie. but without super powers. maybe duofag is on something
>>578727654I'm sure Duo is having a grand old time
Hand me your hand, let me look in your eyesAs my last chance to feel human begins to vaporizeMaybe it's the heat in here, maybe it's the pressureYou ought to head for the exits, the sooner, the betterI am this great, unstable mass of blood and foamAnd no one in her right mind would make my home her homeMy heart's an autoclaveMy heart's an autoclaveWhen I try to open up to you, I get completely lostHouses swallowed by the earth, windows thick with frostAnd I reach deep down within, but the pathways twist and turnAnd there's no light anywhere, and nothing left to burnAnd I am this great, unstable mass of blood and foamAnd no emotion that's worth having could call my heart its homeMy heart's an autoclaveMy heart's an autoclaveI dreamt that I was perched atop a throne of human skullsOn a cliff above the ocean, howling wind and shrieking seagullsAnd the dream went on forever, one single static frameSometimes you want to go where everybody knows your nameAnd I am this great, unstable mass of blood and foamAnd no one in her right mind would make her home my homeMy heart's an autoclaveMy heart's an autoclave
>>578726759Penders is aggressively hammering in that Sally is happier with Shadow like a fucking fanfic
>>578728631They most likely had one with Sonic awakening but you know 06 failed so they droped whatever they had with silver, but they still wanted to connect the two characters instead of completely dropping the idea so they probably have some secret stuff in the vault. now the franchise is somewhat continuing offf from where 06 left off with building on previous stories so this may or may not get adressed again.
There should be an Archie continuation that ignores Ian's version and goes for the Penders/Bollers/Other writers route (fans would seethe).
>>578728832Sally wants an Alpha, and in Archie that was supposed to be Shadow while Sonic was her former beta provider at most.
>>578728850why would you want this? we already know how this story goes. Sally goes rapeshit because of Elias's death and then it timeskips to the new future where she's chill and happy with Ow the Edge
Sally's creator was one of the main person responsible for Mohawknik.https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Madeline_SchroederShe even calls herself the "Mother of Sonic". Looks like Sally really was the Shadow of the Classic era.
>>578728962>ctrl+f sally>0 results
We'll never know if this is accurate to how archiedow and sally would interact because they never even acknowledge each other once Ian takes over despite both of them taking up pages and pages of space all the time.
>>578728832>like a fucking fanficit IS a fucking fanfic (emphasis on fucking)
>>578729039Ian ensured Shadow and Sally would have as little interaction as possible.
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>>578728962Unless you mean the name Sally being in the western bible, Sally was created by Ben Hurst and Ken Kinoshita.
If Shadow and Sally had a boy they definitely would've named him after Eli.
Soniona and Shadally were sabotaged. They were the TRUE endgames.
>>578729183>killing elias off just so sally can have a mariawhy did it have to be elias? why not just kill hope and cut out the roots? fucking penders.
>>578729245Elias dying would be a tragedy on the scale of Maria for Sally.
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>>578729190Sonamybesties are suddenly going to start coming after Fiona
>>578729183They would have named him Sonic, so that whenever history books in the future mention the name Sonic, everyone just assumes it was Shadow's kid and not some other guy who lived an entire unique life of his own.
>>578729020>>578729151Her name is there.https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Sally_Alicia_Acorn_(SatAM)
>>578729314If I'm following this stuff right:>Elias dies>Sally goes crazy and turns bad >Starts going for Shadow >timeskip>Sonic finds himself in the changed future>Sally and Shadow are suddenly happy to see him even though they were going to kill him last time they saw each other>Sonic is happy for them and doesn't care that his own kids died because now he doesn't have to be a king anymore
>>578729245Probably because Elias outlived his usefulness.>Sally needs to choose between Sonic and my kingdom >Surprise, hidden backup brother out of nowhere, now she can get Sonic and the kingdom gets the next monarch >Nevermind, the dude died, and the blue rat starts whining about collateral damage, let's marry her off to the ultimate chadform
>>578729370Nah, the only reason people cared about Sonally was that they grew up with it in satam or early archie before the drama, people would have no attachment to Soniona thus it would not cause the same shipwars to begin with since no one would care enough about Soniona to go fight with sonamyfags.
>>578729438>Sonic: "Why did you named after me?">Sally: "It was Shadow's idea, he wanted his full name to be The Better Sonic."
>>578726759ugh fok off
Yes, I would want Sonic & Fiona vs. Shadow & Sally. Fight me.
If penders publishes Soniona then that's the closest you'll get to Sontails being official
Sally completely lost her mind and hates Sonic
WHERE'S THE NEXT THREAD
Sally's creators are NOT Japanese.
>>578729452>Sonic is happy for them and doesn't care that his own kids died because now he doesn't have to be a king anymoreThis is Windy whether you want to believe it or not.
Sally is physically attacking Sonic and going ballistic. Shadow is just kind of confused. This story is set before they have kids and Sonic is aware of the changing timeline.
>>578729987yep. that's a spitefic. this shit would have nuked whatever remained of sally's reputation after bollers' slap™
Ok Penders, I don't like Sonally either but isn't this a bit much...?
>>578729751>>578729987This is like a public execution for Sonally. Ken is not holding back goddamn.
>>578730072>>578730087I say he didn't go far enough
>>578730072The leaks of the book mentioned that the acorn family attacked Sonic while Shadow aided them, I didn't realize it was literally Sally trying to attack Sonic and get him arrested.
>>578729987it reads like a spiteful sonamyfag doing a vent. but without ken being a sonamyfagspiteful sonionafag doing a vent
>>578730371>>578730371>>578730371
Okay so the format of this story is that King Sonic altering the future somehow caused this. Sonic is aware of the changing timestream here somehow. Sally and Max blame Sonic for Elias's death. At some point between here and the 25 Years later plotline Sally calms down. Shadow doesn't seem to care about any of the details and just keeps talking to Sally awkwardly calling her things like "Fair one"
>>578730419>Okay so the format of this story is that King Sonic altering the future somehow caused this.Well yeah, that's what the original future timeline story ended on.
>>578729560kek
Nobody can resisthttps://h.uguu.se/tmfZiZBW.png
>>578703443*Incest ship
>>578710124Alternate playstyles and characters are good things.
