eos[PoE 1]>Curse of the Allflamehttps://www.pathofexile.com/allflame>3.29.3 Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3996516[PoE 2]>Retard of the Ancientshttps://pathofexile2.com/ancients>Ongoing 0.5.4b patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3980516Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt>>578780096
both poe and d4 badtake the warframe pill
Act 5 and 6 need to be next.
comparison is the thief of joy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS4_QjEQMLgPoE 2 gameplay presented without comment.
poo2 campaign should be 20 actstoowers should suffer more
ok now add guns
ok but like where's tota
Can I post my Lily hot glue tributes here?
reminder to play hcssf in 0.5.5
la deadeye in 0.5.5la deadeye in 1.0
>cringe retard in 0.5.5>cringe retard in 1.0
Where the fuck did everyone go?
>>578820646down the tub they go
how can anyone play deadeye it's the gayest and most boring playstyle in the game
>>578821041I say this every league. The people who like to play very easy mode on games are the ones who only spam her.
not my problem if you enjoy slogslop
>singlehandledly saves poo2 did you thank him yet?
ARPGs have gotten old and aren't as novel anymore. You're tired of the same gameplay loops. You can feel it deep inside you.
>>578819235Warframe hasn't been good in 10 years
>>578821732nope just you tranny
>>578819173I farted too hard and Jonathan came out
>>578820646Jonny's jeets did their job shilling and fucked off until pre-launch 1.0.
>>578819235I play both faggot. Where's your god now?
If Chadnathan put the full release in December, that means PoE2 is complete now, he has full confidence in his game. And so we have too.
NOW THAT THE DUST HAS SETTLEDDid they make allflame bad on purpose? What the fuck were they thinking
>>578823410Jonathan was focused on PoE2 and he still gave us a good PoE1 league.
>>578821732Only the browns feel that level of despair.
>>578821732>ARPGs have gotten old>At least 7 active and alive ARPGs on the market right now>The best ARPG (PoE) attracts millions players each month
The sword abilities look like completely uninspired ranged abilities
>>578824669They have to, it's the only way to put some kino effects or spectacular moves on melee.
GGG should make a Warhammer 40k ARPG
>>578825180RAAAUUAGH RAUUAUAGHH RAUUAAGHHH
>>578825180>You can now use your WoW gold to buy the Witcher 3 on battlenetggg should put PoE on battlenet, this way I will be able to buy a million MTXs with my beloved WoW gold.
>>578824669Mace auto attack builds are right there for you lil bro
Do I need to wait another year for Templar?
>>578825450It took two years to add swords, what do you think?
>>578825450December, the game is full. Full means full classes, full acts, full skills and full players. Do not doubt Jonathan, he delivers.
>>578825180Dawn of war 4 is ALSO dropping in december
JOHNATHAN!!!! MAKE BLIGHT THE 1.0 LEAGUE MECHANIC AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!
>the game is full
>>578825450>>578825652It took three years after the release of PoE1 to add all the last ascendancy to all the classes who were missing them, including the duelist's champion. I have no expectations the game will release in full and they'll drip feed new ascendancies
What league start are you guys doing if youre playing 0.5.5I think im going to run varashta
>>578826152>It took three years after the release of PoE1It was eighty years ago, ggg has experience, money and tech now
>>578826508crossbows or bearmaybe bows but they're boringmaces are too slow and everything else is too much comboshit (plants and bone spells are OK but gearing spellcasters is annoying as hell cause of +levels)
feels like they need a complete campaign overhaul between now and release. It's just shit.
>>578826508It's an ignite league. Not sure if I'm playing though. They need to convince me that a 30 day event is worth my time with the livestream.
Reminder!!!
>>578826508>What league start are you guys doingI can't even think of one that isn't boring garbage
Witch...Blood Mage...Swords...!!!
I hope the sword shit being in 1.0 is a misdirection and they release them in 0.5.5. That's the only cope I have left.
>>578827384sorry but press kit confirmed duelist is coming in 1.0
where energy blade
>>578827384that would be the most retarded thing for them cuz it's supposed to be one of the selling points for 1.0releasing it for a meme event a lot of people will skip would be stupid
Why doesnt the witch have an ascendancy called Swordmancer where its wuxia and she uses telekensis to do some kung fu shit with the swords
So are we atleast getting challenges for 0.5.5
where the hell is the duelist ritualposter
>>578827513I think a lot of people want to play 0.5.5 even if it's barely adding anything after 0.5's success. They have to have something up their sleeve for the livestream. It surely just can't be some balance changes.
>>578827597no carrot on your stick for you
>>578827597Maybe baby ones. More likely there'll be completion rewards for completing Act 1 like all the other fakeleagues.
>>578827513>it's supposed to be one of the selling points for 1.0The game being unfinished is a selling point for 1.0?
Saar, the 1.0 is full.
>>578827785Less is more
Jonathan won
JonaGOD
there's no way it's just one class in 1.02 new classes in 2025 and just 1 in 2026? Mental
PoE killer is herehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4423580/Shadow_Dungeon/
>>578828750Marauder and act's 5 and 6. Trust the plan. 2 more weeks.
>>578828857poe could never
Kripp won
Whats going to be the varashta equivalent secret last minute reveal for 1.0?
>>578828857Off topic but this game reminds me of halls of torment which reminds me why didnt we get a survivor-like league? Or was that meant to be all the circle leagues we got like ritual and ultimatum.
>>578830505>survivor-like leagueJust build an autobomber
>>578830505cws/wardloop on ultimatum\mirage
>>578827648>It surely just can't be some balance changes.Yeah it’s gonna be an event with gauntlet mods kek
>>578826626They’ve run out of ideas and Jonathan has no grand vision for the game, why are you suprised they’re still drip feeding the whole content progression they went through with Poe 1
they should add gauntlet in poe2I'm not going to bother playing it anyway
Sword animations look so fucking sick but I just know GGG is gonna monkey paw it with mandatory generator/spender/mandatory parry/cooldowns bullshit
>>578831865>dies mid animation
Acts 5 AND 6 are in 1.0, right? There's no way they would "release" the game with 3 missing classes AND an act?
>>578833069uh yeah retard, the campaign is complete in 1.0
>he is a jingakh
where tota
>>578833069They literally showed a new act in the trailer.>>578833475They said they're behind schedule on getting it to 1.0 but there's another announcement tomorrow, so we'll see what they have to say then.
>>578827948thats a big oof
>>578833312>xir is late
>>578833249They had to switch gears because everyone was memeing about swords, sry :^)
IM SPINNING WITH MY SWORD
you know what else doing circles?poe1around the drain
>>578819235Warframe helped me with my poe burnout. Spent a while playing warframe only to discover that there is no real game. You repeat the same loop in hour 1 as you do in hour 1,000. The quantity of loot and how fast your character clears and moves are the only things that change. It didn't matter, though, since the core loop is a fun one. When I embraced that truth, I was able to play poe again and have a good time doing so for the first time in years.
>>578835449how the hell do you burn out on a game you play once every 3-4 months
>>578835607sc trade challengecucks who do poorfag farms to buy carries to finish their cheevos are the most miserable people and the game is basically like an unpaid seasonal job to them
>>578836727I hate modern gamers and their reliance on buying clears and RMTing.
>>578836727are you saying that you DON'T burn out on poe? you play every league start to finish back to back?
>>578837254I play a lot and there are certainly periods when I slow down, but to be honest, the reason I slow down is usually something else being on the horizon and limiting my time to get another character off the ground.If there was a fresh economy launch/cool GSFs every two weeks I would probably play non-stop, I like the fresh starts.
>>578837254What is there to burn out on? You play hard for a couple weeks then run out of stuff to do. You dick around with funny builds for a little then drop the game until the next league.
>>578819235I tried it and it feels like i already completed the game after only a few days.I bought the recipe for the warframe i wanted on the market and built it.I bought the mods that were reccomended for my warframe on the wiki on warframe market.I grinded deffense to get the warframe to max level.I completed all the story quests.I made the upgraded Prime version of my Warframe and leveled its Prime form to lvl 30 again.And im pretty much done with everything.And now all thats left is to just farm mastery levels i guess for no reason. I guess i could farm items to sell them on the market but i already have everything i need and im not intrested in just farming platinum just to farm platinum so yeah.
>>578815196Act 6 is Trathus confirmed
>>578839148actually wrong>The Cyclops of Trarthus became the starof the Oriath Arena, but he was merelybiding his time, waiting for his chance...https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Caged_Mammoth
JONATROON
>>578827516List one (1) existing ascendancy node related to a specific weapon type
>>578839583Disciple of Verashta
>>578839727>>578839583put down gently
>>578828857honestly looks kinda fun for a few days, hopefully it's cheap
I woke up bitchord, I LIVED.
>>578839727That's not an ascendancy node
alri la
>>578840628
>>578840518choose a djinn they use sceptres
>>578840518Instruments of Power, lil guppaccino
>>578839315Neat, you're correct it seems
Is this good or bad for melee? I can't tell. Ive only played DoV.
Jonachad won
>>578841132Looks a little meh baseline but the fast attack rate is good. The enhanced versions probably have damage multis.
>>578841132so it's shit after 8 seconds, okbetter that than charges consumption I guess
I'm still playing PoE1 and i'm knockbackmaxxig using empires grasp and its funny when it works and you just drag mobs around
>>578841132Only issue I see if you can be stunned, but w/e.Glad its not some genny spender like doomtroons were claiming.
>>578841330There's a lot of stun threshold on the southern part of the tree, and if you can sword&board you can take the shield node that acts like brine king pantheon.
>>578840746me willy's gone big now
Starting from scratch, Jonathan built PoE2 brick by brick. It's truly impressive.
I LIVED BITCH
>>578820646so it is true then
/ourguy/ spotted
>>578841693Is that Ethan Ralph?
>>578841693
>>578841784This is creepy, bro.
>>578841132>40% less ms
>
People who seriously played PoE2 here, do you feel the game is ready? Maybe not perfect but at least ready to be played
>poo2 announcement>it's literally just sword>8 months for thisKEKAROOOO
>>578841990Looks too clean.
>>578841975newfag lol
>>578842021Ya, it needs more league mechanics though.
>>578841990
>>578841990nice tatas
>>578842021Content, no.Systems / foundation, yesLeague / mechanics, probablyBalance, hell no.
>>578841975Pathfinder
>>578842021everything is pretty ok aside from the fucking endgame
>>578841990woodful
>>578842021mostly yes. but as anons say, despite the endgame being in a good state now, there is a pretty noticeable lack of content after you beat all the pinnacles. its basically just mapping with the mechanics over and over again. more depth in the endgame, and more fun sekhema style side content would be great
>>578842021i think it was ready with 0.3, as of 0.5 it is more than ready for a 1.0 launch. good build diversity from poverty to mirror tier.good mix of farms, alch and go tablets to 200 deli cities and bonded rare grand expeditions.crafting is kind of mid as of 0.5 but it's more than enough. few more chase items would be nice but mageblood is a good start.1.0 is just the plain jane base game, it doesn't need to launch with 20 different ubers and a full suite of niche league mechanics. i just want 1.0 out of the way so we can get an end game expansion and raise the ceiling.
time to grind
Why would anyone play 0.5 if 1.0 is coming out soon?
>>578842918because i like playing the game?
>>578842918mtx challenges
>>578842970You're playing right now too? I never understood people who only play poe.
>>578842181retard
>>578843023>You're playing right now too?i am>I never understood people who only play poe.i play other games too though
>>578842918we will find out tomorrow.
>>578841132>elemental ground interactionsyou're probably going to have to play some real cringe set up to make it do damage
>>578843059NANI
I hope bladestorm is cool. They should rework poe1 bladestorm so that the sandstorms hunt like tornados do.
>>578841132that seems really fucking funny with the taming from poe2imagine having a cyclone that chills and shocks from the ground effects
>>578843183sorry you're actually a triple retard-retard #1: thinking pathfinder is still the less mov speed penalty ascendancy, do you even play the game-retard #2: thinking this as anything to do with how cyclone is worded-retard #3: animefag
>poop2 is so much fun you just dont know how to play it>>
PUT THE SWORDS IN THE PATCH YOU COCKSUCKA MUTHAFUCKKAAAA
>>578842021in only have roughly 2k hours spent so far but noyou can feel they have a decisionmaking problemso many objectively wrong things make it into the live version of the game which never should be there sometimes core elements of the game are simply rushed sometimes it just feels like they have no motivation anymore, there are only a handfull of viable skills to use, the whole combination and support gem stuff is pointless decoration, you have to use certain combinations and skills to even play the game in a sense of not dying.which is another point, this development slack that becomes evident is "fixed" by "just play standard or ssf and wipe your way through our content" which is the biggest fail decision.then you have longstanding foundational issues that do not get fixed such as skill tooltips, in general there are problems with the menuit seems whoever is working on that does not even play the game and understand how its being used OR there is someone who is blocking improvements, OR of course they use problematic datasets to determine usageotherwise you would not have unskippable waits and forced extra clicks in the game, i have not counted how many times i have replayed what was released from the game so far but especially in agame that people are supposed to replay at least on every new league you can not have invisible walls, forced waits, or other annoyances of this category, also they dont seem to value the "supporter" base, i measure this by the low effort mtx that they release and expect to be bought.furthermore in my opinion one of the worst but also most important issues is the stats on items / loot system in general.overall the game feels like a chore, which is not good, it should be flowing and not chunky, driving on a bumpy road or from one valley to the next.tldr:it seems the development of this game suffers from some kind of writers block/burnout or depression.
>>578843889This is what it was like when i started a character in .4 and i just straight up quit at this point
>>578843889>some loser who cant make a proper build is bored because his double digit iq doesnt allow him to engage with the gameWOW
>>578842021>do you feel the game is ready?I think it's "ready enough" for people who would want to play POE2 for what it really is, and it's never gonna be ready for people who fundamentally don't.But when I say "ready enough", I mean that there's an absurd amount of content, polish and tweaking missing. And there are many design decisions many players would completely undo if they could. Not everyone would agree on everyone of them (e.g. endgame, gem system, itemization, limited portal) but everyone could find many things they would want changed completely.
>>578842783boring
>>578844232>I mean that there's an absurd amount of contentI agree, probably the ARPG with the most content after poe1
>>578842021it's ready for a one shot game but not really as a seasonal game
>>578844232would you agree on the statement that the vendor npcs are roughly at 90% uselessness value in this game ? (set aside the sell function and Eemergency design vendors such as doriyani who sells you maps because the drop progress system is bad ?)
>>578845001gambling is the best source of gear before the end game by far
>>578844670well I wrote that there is content MISSING but both things can be true at the same time.>>578845001not at all, I think they're very important in the campaign, especially if you optimize the consistency and speed of your campaign runs. they do fall off really hard in the endgame though, no doubt about that, but there's maybe a case to be made for why it should be that way. being able to simply save up millions of gold and buy the best gear would take a lot of the fun out of gearing.
how do we feel about swords
The only reason why I exist on this planet is to witness poop 1 EOS so I can laugh at the endless poop general suicides and jerk off to it all while shouting NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER until I pass out
>>578845287you and me both brother
>>578845287
>>578843889personally, i don't mind if some people are too dumb to play the game. I still enjoy it because I CAN play the game.
>>578845287so zased..
>>578845270
RELEASE DUELISTNOW
>>578845270cautiously optimistic
>>578844926join a guild with a bunch of normies in it, they play a different game. slow campaign doing all the mechanics they see while getting lost, 10-15 minute long maps, afking in their hideout constantly. the amount of content in poe2 is already overwhelming for the average player.
>>578841132>swords only>25 mana cost>stancesDOA
>>578845793>channel to spin rapidly, damaging targets around you and moving forward. >and moving forwardit's going to play like poe1 cyclone before they reworked channeling skills.
>>578842021300 hours, everything about it is clearly ready for release, the recent endgame patch improved the experience a lot for the places 95% of players will reach. my biggest problem is and has remained the same since 0.1, there are still many severely bad skills that make you feel like a fucking idiot for trying to use them without a specific build that makes them usable. meanwhile you can just mindlessly play with the developer-approved skills that aren't allowed to be bad. and other dumb skill-related choices like unique weapons that have minimum levels higher than the end of the campaign. get outta here.
>>578845793the stances are going to be tekken style
>>578845863you go pretty slow, it was in the trailer
how strong do you think cyclone will be compared to whirling assault? Assuming the ascendancies for swords are good
so swords get their own flicker is it gonna be rage spender or glory spender
katana unique that will be parry basedggg fund it
imagine wasting clear time with parrying
>>578845968i just wish they would change their stance on animation locked melee. makes sense with click to move but it feels janky with wasd.
>1 day until the largest nerf patch either game has ever seen
>>578843672
problem with duelist is that its gonna likely need to rely on health as its main defense instead of ev/es and health builds suck shit and need a fuck ton of strength to be viable. Problem is, cyclone (and many duelist shit in general) will also need a lot of dext. Leeching sucks in poop 2. Because poop 2 has no health on the tree and bad leech, I feel like duelist cyclone will be a noob trap unless it deals broken amounts of damage to be worth the shit defenseyou also need to get a fuck ton of mana too. I really think whirling assault monk will just be the superior cyclone
sabotage
>>578846206Actually it's a channeling iai slash that consumes all charges you have as you channel it for a boss deleting attack if released at the right moment
>>578846576health isn't bad anymore, I'm not saying it's better than ES/evasion but armor is a decent defense now with ele applies as armor I still think there should be health nodes on the tree though
>>578846576im using witch
>>578846683charged dash..... sovl......
>>578846576retard
>>578846690health can be okay but remember>no shield>strength stacking will be fucked when you also need lots of dext which will give you less health>cyclone relies on good leeching and it sucks in poop 2people are gonna be dropping like flies when playing cyclone
>>578846576yknow you can just wait and see how it plays instead of being a doomsissy right?
>>578846573why is blud wearing a skirt?
>>578846573Me in the sissy dress
>>578846839still need to see quality on cyclone, who knows, maybe genmling will be good with it but yeah no shield sucks and it kind of makes defiance of destiny mandatory, still need to see duelist ascendancies, maybe it will help
>>578846772it's basically gonna be iai spirit slash from monhunhttps://youtu.be/xx9vsWx6gmc&t=16
>>578846839just get life regen you retard
>>578846859>>578846860its called a kilt
>>578847082>poop 2 regenlmao wont stop someone from getting 1-2 shotted when spinning very slowly into a strong rare with 2-3k hp
anyone saying you need block or defiance has never actually played an armor build and probably thinks 20k armor is alot
POOP
you ARE playing BPL this weekend, right exile?
>>578847221Ah, I see what's happening here. You're a poe1 player that never played 2 making an ass out of yourself. That's not how this game works lil gup
>>578846839There's probably some ascendancy stuff to make dual wield block a thing.
>>578847263damage mitigation with low avoidance only goes so far and there's a reason armour stackers aren't the most popular HC build.but yeah you're not fundamentally wrong for the early stage of the game, slammers use no block and cruise. the problem with not having avoidance becomes apparent when you're running giga juiced stuff and 90% damage reduction on a million hits doesn't save your 5k pool.
>>578847350quite the opposite. Im a poop 2 fan who is so burnt out from poop 1 I didnt even touch the last poop 1 leagueAll im saying is unless the ascendancy is broken and/or health/regen gets insane buffs, cyclone will likely struggle and whirling assault will be the better option for a spin build
>>578847445true in poe1, but we are talking about poe2 - you dont need avoidance with actual armor builds
Retard at gamescomhttps://www.twitch.tv/deadrabb1t
>>578847692nice stream you posted there, care to explain why it lasted 2 fucking seconds
>>578847221>lmao wont stop someone from getting 1-2 shotted when spinning very slowly into a strong rare with 2-3k hpOk, but what about players who complete their first map?
the act 6 boss I feel like has the potential to be insanely strong and busted. Im surprised nobody is talking about the campaign final bossjonathan will use his autism to make a final boss that will likely mindbreak campaign soeedrunners and there will be like hundreds of plebbit threads about itbe prepared. Do not forget about the final boss because it WILL have all of jonathans autism and philosophy pushed into one uber boss like fight
>>578847807Jonathan got him. He wasn't allowed to film while he plays the demo.
>>578847924He will just copy the big fat fuck from LE
>>578847924>hundreds of plebbit threads about itso nerfed the following day?
>>578847518slayer's thing was always gigaleech. GGG won't mess with the trope for poe2.
>>578847960what is that man…in the black shirt gonna do to chadathon?
>>578847924>jonathan>having anything to do with boss design
I woke up this morning thinking of that ridiculous dog-helldivers game, terrified that was all content that was going to be in 1.0
>>578847602think this is more of a "poe2 has no difficult content atm" thing but I don't disagree.
>>578847518just go eva/deflect with crit immunity and you're immortal (bar degen, so get 75% chaos res and an Ignite charm)
yt algo on that bullshit again
>we get 1 new class for the full release
G R I M
>>578848538Did you play all ascendancies and skills yet?
>>578848018>she thinks slayer will be in the gameheh
>>578848669D A W N
>>578848538Im sure shiggyd will ask about it in tomorrows interview.
>>578848858>teehee we have nothing tub announce right now on that subject ;)
>>578848679I've only played Titans.
>>578846573poop2 players be like
>>578848963rub his head, he might grant a wish that we get swords before 1.0
>>578848939So why do you care if duelist is the only class added in 1.0, you're clearly not gonna play itLike, I would understand it if you played every other asc and tested just about every skill you can and are itching for something new, but if in 2 years the only ascendancy you've touched is Titan, then you're being a glass half empty guy for something that does not in any way affect you
>>578848679>Did you eat all the shit?
>>578848963poop1 players be like>सर, क्या मुझे 'मेज ब्लड' पर डिस्काउंट मिल सकता है
>>578849262you will never be white
>>578848669blizzard won bigly
>>578849114I'm obviously the guy you asked you egg
They're going to announce Marauder at ExileCon because the bottom left corner of the tree is tubshit and needs a rework.Screenshot this.
Retard is live again @ gamescom poo2 boothhttps://www.twitch.tv/deadrabb1t
>>578849414yeah poop2 is a blizzard tier product
We'll get a million+ players on launch.
>>578849334well we will just have wait and see what the crate of skin bleaching cream i ordered on amazon has to say about that.
>>578849684who's "we", chuddo? probably not even gonna play this at launch or ever again now that I'm back at dota 2
>>578849736JONATROON
>>578849537>playtest felt slow (but they were using level 50 chars with white gear)>"painfully slow">"it wasn't fun">lots of channeling skills>parry skills>cyclone is the most promising>there are stance-restricted skills apparently
Yep, it's tubbed
Oh, I thought the announcement was tomorrow. Whoops...
>>578849684Unpopular opinion here.It's not good that PoE2 is spreading so far to normalfag audiences. This game is not made for the average gamer. Look at 0.1 and how many obsessed schizos it created, just because they bounced off the game. We are just now recovering from that. For the first year it was almost entirely impossible to discuss the game online without people sperging out.
The default mode of communication for PoE/2 autists is sperging out. Do you not understand where you are?
Alkaizer spotted
>>578850219trooning out is the fate of all poop ecelebs
https://x.com/Zizaran/status/2092536490244927507/our/ agent is there
>>578850219
>there are zissies on /poeg/zero decorum and grace
>>578850219>>578850616
>>578849886He's not a maylay guy, waiting for carns review.
>>578851008he's a fucking retard who can't configure a microphone to not rape your ears is what he is.but yeah, thought I'd relay the info cuz I suffered through it.
>>578849993it wasn't the normalfags sperging about poe2, it was the poo1 freaks.
>>578851147
>>578849886>parry skillsholy sovlretaliate skills are the best, parry skills will be just as good
>>5788499930.1 was the only time Poo2 was goodThey tried holding their ground in 0.2 but eventually troonathan caved to the STROOMER cabal and decided to just make a shittier version of PoE1
fub in the tub!tub in the fub!
I am a wunner. I am part of the 18%
>>578849993the campaign is the best part of the gameespecially act 1people that just pick up the game short term WILL be happyyou are a retard
>>578851584act 1 is the only good part of the campaign2, 3, and especially 4 are all shit
>>5788516844 is fine but 2 and 3 are mega slog
>>578846573Where is King Fubgun
1>4>2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3
>>578851846I just can't stand the constant DA KAROOEY WAYDAWTUHHHHHHHHHY U NO KAROOEY WAY??????????????????WE WUZ KONKURORZ N SHEEEEEEEEEEIT
>>578851935Chudvision problem I'm afraid.hoi4 may be more your speed.
>>578849993>[Vtuber] reacts to poo's skill tree
>>578851996Yeah the story really took a nosedive after they hired a stroomer to write it
0.1? now that was a real ARPG, bing bing wahoos of modern poo2 wouldn't even be able to get past act 1Honestly if you didn't beat the campaign during 0.1 you didn't beat the game.
WHERE THE FUCK IS FLICKER STRIKE
>most anticipated classDelivered>PoE full release in 2026Delivered>SwordDeliveredJonathan has so much aura now
>there's too many people here>actually I fucking hate this1.0 GET HYPE
>>578852262You can still have a miserable experience like webm if you just dont choose the 5 or 6 ggg approved campaign skills
>>578852306It's a quarterstaff gem. Trailer did show something similar for swords. Probably called flicker slice or some shit.
>>5788516842 is like, whatever, it's okay. 3 would be absolute peak if it was half as long, i love the central american-punk aesthetic, it's awesome. 4 i just like, it's really good
>>578852262people in 0.1 were actually getting defenses during the campaign.
>>578852262i, too, liked holding rightclick on glacial cascade
>>578852567most skills are viable in the campaign
>>578852636>it's really goodare you a nog?
>>578852306Bro, your quarterstaff?
>>578852764I'm not trans sorry
>>578851684
>>578852751the [RACIAL MINORITY] fellating is the only bad part of the story, everything else is interesting. and it even shows them being retarded and wrong, objectively, so it's really not that biased. just a bit cringe.
>>578852705>most skills are viable in the campaign
>>578852823vice truly are scum
>>578852887they are though? campaign is easy enough that you can brute force it with pretty much all skills if you know what you're doing
>>578852887he said viable, which is true
>>578852878They other shit part of it is the "omg sin was le chosen one DESTINED to defeat corruption" nonsenseWhy they fuck did they bring back the beast when Sin stated that he used the last bit of its power to kill kitavaI fucking hate these fat haired retards
>>578853045sorry i don't know poe1 lore
you know what's really amazing about all of this is that the game still doesn't even feel anywhere near complete as of 0.5. how the hell did they have enough content to release the game as an early access more than a year ago?
>>578852306How you people manage to use the internet while also being illiterate I will never know
>>578853126semen demons
>>578853045you probably remember more about poe lore than anyone at GGG does.not a compliment btw
>>578853112> how the hell did they have enough content to release the game as an early access more than a year ago?They didn't. The game was ass in 0.1 and 0.2.
>>578853112>>578853278>how the hell did they have enough content to release the game as an early accessbecause however little content 0.1 had it was already significantly more than the full release of most games.
>>578853112actually it does feel near complete at 0.5 if you aren't a delusional shitposter, the endgame used to be a barebones joke after the campaign prior to 0.5 and you had the act rerun placeholder shit too.>muh weaponsweapons actually have an identity in poe2 instead of being a different base so making them won't be as fast and that's ok because atleast they feel different and unique.
>>578853112
>>578853112I bet you can't wait to start complaing about "bloat" once this angle of attack is no longer plausible.
>>578853650bloat is a Poo 2 sissy buzzword thoughever.
>>578851584holy slop eater
Cyclone looks so fucking good bros please GGG don't monkey paw it
>>578853487Remember when the infinite atlas was bad because it was just a temporary endgame mode slapped together a month before release?Remember how it's still absolute dogshit compared to the simplicity and fun of PoE1's atlas?I rememberI hope Jonathan gets ass cancer
>>578853793it'll definitely be better endgame than for levelling so don't expect to just equipe it in the campaign and get what you want.
>weapons actually have an identity in poe2
>>578853953poe1's endgame is only better to people who want to run Dunes 40 times for "efficiency" reasons.
>>578853953>Remember when the infinite atlas was bad because it was just a temporary endgame mode slapped together a month before release?one of the most retarded things doomers made up.
>>578853487lol weapons are literally stick for lightning damage to shoot out from
>>578846573why do poe2 fans wear skirts while being bald?
>>578845532i mean i'm not a steel cock enjoyer but implying he cant play the game while you can just proves how retarded poop2 shitters really are...
>>578854241that's a quote from jonnyboi, but keep coping sister
>>578853953I mean I like Poe1 very, very much but poe2 0.5 endgame is like so much better it's not even worth discussing
>>578854464extremely bigoted post
>>578854489suggesting he's doing something right while using basic attack and taking 5 hits to kill a white mob in a2 is retarded. he was too stupid to set up a stun into boneshatter combo with his gems, and probably didn't upgrade his weapon, instead blowing his exalts on "capping resists" (in a campaign balanced to let you finish it without capping them) like the pussy HC faggot he is.he might be a better poe2 player now but he had no idea what he was doing in that clip, he was doing everything wrong.
>>578854680what makes it better?
>>578853953>put mechanics onboarding into the fortress so you can progress atlas and mechanic trees at the same time>make entire revealed atlas searchable, not just the piece currently on your screen>fix rare but annoying node generation issuesthere I fixed the endgame
>>578854752>while using basic attackjonathan said that was a viable skill to build around, CHUDsorry he tried to play the game instead of waiting for tubtroon to put up a guide about lightning arrow
>>578849262kek true, playing to pay rent
>>578854887retard
>>578854873>remove infinite atlas and replace it with a static one that doesn't force you to run 100 dogshit maps until you find the one that lets you actually juice (sorry it's on the worst layout, just deal with it ;) )there I fixed the endgame
>>578853953Infinite atlas is good actually.poo1 endgame of having to run every map plus the dogshit unique maps for atlas points every league is an absolutely slopful slog.And lets not forget how absolutely fucking dogshit the voidstone system was for the longest time.
>>578854752>set up a stun into boneshatter combo with his gems, and probably didn't upgrade his weaponall this to kill white mobs in act 2rePOOtard
>>578854887you can use basic attack properly (use rage support on it, use stun supports or brink), he's doing everything wrong and reaping the results.stop running cover for shitters being shitters, the streamer is not your daddy no matter how much you want it
>>578854512why would you try to keep up this lie for so long? it doesn't even make sense, no dev is going to make a super complicated endgame system a month out from the early access launch when they could just port the preexisting system that is literally just a jpeg.
>>578855070you know that's gameplay from 0.1, right?you're not a braindead marketer that thinks it's a clip from 0.5.... right?
>>578855039I do enjoy jumping from one anomaly map to another more than poe1's atlas
>>578855005>I AM JOOOOOCING
>>578855039Infinite atlas is like they took Delve, made it bad, and then shat all over it after a spicy thai dinner.
Rememeber .1 when you could only use 1 of the same supports? Remember how shit it was that most of your skills were better off without extra links because all the rest of the supports had downsides?We have come a long way
>>578855136>you know that's gameplay from 0.1, right?maces were never stronger than in 0.1, lil gupta, because splash worked differently.he did everything wrong and you're defending him for free. you're the shill here. I'm just a guy calling it like it is.
>>578855005>t. faggot who spams one map 16 hours a day for at least one month per leagueopinion discarded just like poo1 once 1.0 launches
Diablo 4 had 30 million signups in 2 days and 100 million signups over 2 months btw.>b-b-b-but they're just not updating it because they're waiting until they hit 4 millionIf it took them this long the game is going to end of service in under a year. It should've taken under 4 hours.>b-b-but nobody can sign up because PoE players are all ad blocker schizosOk maybe this one is true.
>BRO THIS EXPLORATION IS SO HECKIN EPICARINO!!!!!!!!!>BROOOOO IT TOOK 87 MAPS BUT I FINALLY FOUND A CITY!!!!!!>BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CAN FINALLY USE MY TABLETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>MIRE IS ACTUALLY A GOOD LAYOUT BRO THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME RUN IT, JONATHAN>*SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP*
>>578855370>ad blocker schizosjew detected. sorry you're not getting my shekels shlomo.>>578855395absolutely mindbroken
>muh cityLMAO This retard can't play until he has his one snowflake layout. Absolute tinkbrained faggot.
>>578855470>17INR have been deposited into your account
>>578855370>nigga thinks pre sign up events that always happen to magically hit their max goal are reallol, you must be older than 18 to post here lil gup.
>>578855395Why do you need it to be a city?I just put in tablets and ran maps, not worrying about biome and i never wanted for money.I gave my brother hundreds of divs when i quit because i had zero use for them.
>>578855370No one will ever take Blizzard seriously after the breast milk incident.
>>578855637>hundreds of divsthat's nothing in poop2 thoughbeityou're bragging that you're slightly above the poverty line lmao
>>578855637these are the same faggots crying about ground loot in 3.29. their entire lives revolve around the dopamine hit from tinks.
>>578855637Because mentally ill famers convinced xemselves that 4tab city is the only layout they will run to be efficient.
>>578855741yeah it's crazy that people want to grind for things in a game in the genre popularized by endlessly grinding for things made by grinding gear games
>>578837254>are you saying that you DON'T burn out on poe? you play every league start to finish back to back?Just adding that I may play league for a while but then I just log into Standard after a few weeks and play out the game until next patch.
>mfw people who unironically try to make divs by farming raw currency walk among us acting as completely normal human beings
>>578853112Of course It doesn't feel complete because it is not complete yet because it's not 1.0.1.0 is complete. Stop dooming when there is nothing to doom
>>578855370Apparently the game was entirely carried by fomo. Now that it's free nobody cares.Weird.
>>578855935Fubgun (the greatest ARPG player of all time and the arbiter of what is good and bad for all ARPGs) says if your game doesn't drop 500 raw divines per map starting your game is a failure and the servers should be closed immediately.
ahh you were at my side all along...my true mentor...my guiding tub...>*pulls shit sword out of ass*
>>578855968>1.0 is completeOh so every class, weapon type, and ascendancy will be included in 1.0?
>>578855848grinding in general is fine. having to run the same layout for hundreds of hours every single fucking league because it's 1% better than another and then throwing a tantrum when you can't is mental illness.
>>578856147why not give people the option to run the same map over and over again if they want to?No one is stopping you from running Belfry in PoE1. YOU choose not to do it and then get mad about YOUR choice.
Ruetoo unironically said that crafting is bad in PoE 1 because it's not deterministic and it's not fair that you can fail Veiled Exalted Orbs.After 20 years of streamerniggers shitting on Harvest everyone now agrees that OG Harvest was the greatest crafting system ever invented. It's time to apologize.
>>578856109Didn't know PoE1 never received anything new of anything ever after 1.0 release
>>578856252So the game won't have all the features they promised 2 years ago when it launches in 1.0?It won't be feature complete?
And then he talked about some Chinese youtuber and he expected me care.What a retard.
poe1 witch > poe2 witch
Witch and magic in gereral sucks
I need to gamble...
>>578856227I'm not mad though. I play both endgames and make all the currency I want and I don't come here crying about it. You on the other hand...
>>578856231With the mods shuffled in and out of circulation, harvest wouldn't be that bd.
my faggot streamer said a thingthought you guys should know
>>578856109Yeah the base game is complete. Any other classes, ascendancies and activities are expansions
>>578856231poe crafting needs more determinism because poeniggers are all degenerate gamblers. imagine farming a 20+ div item and end up 60+ divs underwater because you just bricked your item. only poeniggers would say this is perfectly normal.
>harvestroons still pissing and shitting themselvesL O L E
poe1 alt spamming is le badpoe2 chaos spamming is le good
Will 1.0 come with Ruthless?
poe2 does infact need a bit more crafting options, It's certainly a lot better than it was initially and crafting mid level gear is perfectly fine but the moment you want to go any higher the crafting cost goes from 10-20 divs to 300+ divs of pure gamba
>this is the worst PoE 2 is ever going to be>even though it's garbage now they're going to release 3 kino expansions every year each as big as the base game which isn't ready after 10 years of development time and $250 million in development costs2roonies actually believe this btw.
>>578856724With everything you ever wanted and more.
Witches are made to be bred by young men
>>578856227just play poe1 guppo. they spent the last few years tailoring that experience around your ilk. the poe 1 atlas was originally designed to be explored, the lore refers to it as being an endless expanse, almost every mechanic for it was designed around exploration. they said fuck it and turned poe1 into a playpen for the temper tantrum babies while they worked on poe2. you got what you wanted, stop complaining.
I want to play poe1 but I don't want any of my friends to know about it.
15+ years to make Diablo4. Only 2 years to make PoE2. Bravo Jonathan.
poo1 atlas feels like the tabletop version of poo2 atlas. mildly charming in its quirks and restrictions but ultimately a pointless abstraction when you can render the actual thing in real time.
>>578855935Someone has to make raw divs otherwise no one would have divs to trade
>Poopy 2 is the epic bone chilling slow burn exploration hobby grade lore dump endless expanse infinite gameplay game that everyone always wanted from an ARPGNow I've heard everything. You 2roonies are unreal.
they should add more tower layouts for 1.0 endgame
>>578856871'exploring' the atlas in poe2 is such a shit cope lmaono one 'explores', they buy up the tablet that lets them ignore the exploration until they find the one area of the map they're allowed to juice or until they find the boss spawn so they can fight the other boss the infinite atlas is the most tubshit thing ever designed and only indians like it
if they're this mad now just wait til dec 11
>>578857236>>578855543
Reminder that no matter how bad your day is you didn't get swindled by your alleged best friend into buying a known counterfeit """autographed""" Black Lotus LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO!Haha I ruined your day. You deserve it for allowing PoE 1 and 2 to be split. Every time you think you're going to read /poeg/ and have a good time I will be there to remind you that you got scammed like a mark bitch. Your friend thought so little of you that he took your money and pissed right down your throat. He thinks you're a subhuman cardboard eating retard.
>>578857537TRVKE
sc trade RETARDS who can play either game past week 2 never cease to amaze me
>>578857236>muh tub>muh jeetsso true sister, so very true.
SSF btw
>>578857737can we see your hcssf poe2 character and/or your hcssf ruthless poe1 character
after the whole nvdia shader fiasco hopefully we will be getting an optimization update all I see is blurry shit every time something explodes in my screen
>>578857850just buy an amd gpu, cuck
>>578857850Give it a year :^)
I don't think I will play PoE1 when PoE2 is full. Lorewise, PoE1 won't exist anymore. The main timeline will be PoE2.
>>578857979k
>>578857821iposted both before level 98 in poo 2 and 80 something in hcssfr
>>578858093can we see them again?
>>578857581he sounds upset here
>>578847692>open stream>first thing i hear is that the POE2 line is very deadMoney well spent.
Legion+Alva working well
>>578855543>>578855470>>578855637he doesn't play poe2, he's just parroting what negative opinions he can find on reddit
>>578858227Europeans don't play poop2only jeets and chinks do
>>578857979>poe2 timeline>abyssals are winning>breachlords got a foothold to reality>verisium aliens are invading wraeclast>precursors activated the doomsday clock
My merc is so spoilt she gets better gear than i do!had to switch out the tailwind boots she had cus needed chaos res
>>578858217>tfw bought stash tabs so chris wilson would fund his manchild hobby
>>578858507poe is a manchild hobby
>>578858346they play in a tub full of poop brown poop people in poop tub and the poop tub is overflowing with poops because jonatroon makes so much poop in his butt!
>deadrabbit is just wandering around instead of getting as much poe2 footage as possible
>>578858410utter nonsensePoE2's campaign should have been about rebuilding Wraeclast while dealing with the encroachment of the Kalguurans, not rehashing the beast because ggg are creatively bankrupt
that's how the D2 whirlwind works too rightwonder if you can have like 2 weapons who trigger different shit or something in poo2
>>578858768I don't think he can record anything
>>578858753
>>578858874he should have planned around storming the poe2 booth with a high-powered rifle
>>578857537
>>578858824That's how dual-wielding works in PoE 2.And yes, there are already builds that use this mechanic.
>>578858997>it's does the twister/tornado ground effect thingLMAO I'm okay with this
>>578859149yeah but that's a mace so you can't cyclone, it needs dual swordsjust kinda wondering if you can make something cool with having 2 different unique swords or something, we'll see I guess
>>578858997>sand scour?>perforate>worldcutter>engage
>>578857537kek
>>578859263It works exactly the same way as with swords. You can go right now and create a build with two different maces that do different things.
>>578858997>no generator spender bullshitTHANK GOD>Other modifiers to attack speed also affect this skill's costUh oh, path of mana is happening again
>>578857537trvth nvclear bomb
why does poo2 have such restrictive weapon selections? >no saar you cannot cycleclone with the blunted weapan claude does not compute this is anti-poe design. its literally d4½
>>578859223it doesn't, read again
>>578857850You got chinese food on your tower.
>>578859542cuz the poo1 weapon method quite frankly sucked dick and weapons had very little identity.
>>578859223it only works on 1, you can't have 3 at the same time
There really needs to be a POE2 General.leave poe1 chads to the GOAT game while poo2 trannies go be faggots else where
>>578859451>equip katana>pick weeb duelist ascendancy>spam hidden secret worldcutter technique
>>578859542Because it adds individuality to weapons. In Poe 1 your weapon type literally didn't matter, whether it was a sword or an axe made no difference.
>>578859692lol seethe
>>578859641SAAR THE IDANTITY WEAPAN SUCKING THE DICK SAAR
>>578859692We already tried that multiple times but poo1 generals died instantly so they came crying and posting in poe2 generals again.
>>578858678no it's not, videogames are mainstream now
>>578859542I think it was born from the pragmatic idea of not having to adjust animations for different weapons being used with the same skill, and to allow for easier balancing.But holy fuck I would've never made that call, distilled anti-fun with no real upside for the players. I'm sure some deranged GGG bigshot will claim it makes it less confusing to LE NEW DISABLED PLAYERS but who gives a shit, the game's confusing to them anyway, don't sacrifice fun for abject retard accessibility (which never even gets achieved).
>>578858997>no stagesFuck
>>578859692Ok but where is turdposter going to post?his whole identity and life purpose is to shit on poe2 so this would only leave us two in the poe1 general, I don't think it's enough
>>578859830AAA slop and indie flavor of the month are mainstream. ARPGs are still the hobby of sweatlord autists and manchildren.
>>578859641PoE2 weapons have no identity other than "they let you use this skill" (poe1 skills also have weapon restrictions btw)
>>578859767SAAAR THE INDIVIADUALITY SAARS THE WEAPON MATTAR NOW VERY WAITFUL DACISION MAKEING MEAMINGFUL COMBATFUL
I wish they'd scrap the fucking retarded restrictions on weapons, I want to play smite with a claw
poo2 will never be goodall woodful is doingis trying to make it look good and nobody is asking if it actually plays well
>>578859853Why would you need to change the animation for a guy spinning in place if he's got a sword an axe or a mace?It's the exact same thingHe spins around really fast while his arms are extended
>>578859971uh oh 2sissy 2buck 2bottoms aren't going to like this TRVKIE!!
>>578858997is dual wielding the same as a 2H sword?
>>578859767in poe1 weapon type does matter, funny enough. you will see certain skills gravitate to axes because they are slower and have higher damage rolls, while other skills gravitate to swords for higher aps and bigger range
>>578859889that's very wrong and you can see that by the huge amount of girls that play poe, it's far more than the amount of girls that play stuff like skyrim with mods, the witcher and other goty single player stuff
>>578860062You can read can’t you
>>578860014There are animations that would look dumb with a different weapon. Take armour breaker and imagine it being used with a spear.But it's not like they didn't already have a reasonable system in place in POE1 (weapon restrictions exist for some skills, but are pretty loose and many skills allow for many different types of weapons).
I see the tubby spammer is not taking the news well
>>578860238lol ganesha makes poopoo in tub lolololpoo2 in pootub lmao
>>578860238TRUE anon, it is flavorful that you can spin with a sword but not with an axe
>>578860238you ok tubbro? you seem to be losing it by the minute...
>>578860198it's really funny how they talk up how hard it is to animate stuff on poe1's rigs and how poe2's rigs let them animate so much easier but then they'll go "uhmmmm it's too difficult for us to make a separate animation for a spear hitting the ground so we have to lock the skill to maces instead..."
>I see the tubby spammer is not taking the news wellthe news of diaper2 not getting any fresh poopie until december? GEEEEEEEG
>>578859767trueeeeeeeeeee, a marauder shouldnt be able to use wands or daggers or claws!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>578860145>huge amount of girls that play poedespite how incredibly gay they are, zizaran mathil and lily do not count as girls
New Scion lore.
>>578859853>funI really don't understand that position. I just don't see how being able to use most weapons with most skills is fun. Let's say I want to be a sword-wielding dude or a monk with a quarterstaff. In Poe 1, it would be literally the exact same thing , the same animations and the same skills. It lacks that element of class fantasy. In Poe 2 these two weapons will be played completely different. Sword feels like sword, mace feels like mace, and so on.
>>578860389i mean, easy and takes long are 2 different things that can both be true
Is the poe1 vs poe2 tribalism on here an elaborate bit or something or are people genuinely this autistic about which cake they prefer
>>578821664Wonder what the player % will me on the gladiator, I bet it will hit some extremes like 30-35%.
>>578860585>which cake they preferThere's only one cake here. The other one is just a pile of shit.
>>578860585poo2 killed poe1, while sucking dick and people don't take kindly to that
>>578860547>I just don't see how being able to use most weapons with most skills is funthe most tourist post ive seen in years
>>578860550It'll take one of their artists like 2 hours to slightly modify an existing animation.They then won't be working on hideous MTX for chinks and paypigs to buy if they do that though, so I understand why Tencent won't let them.
>>578860585tubinald woodful rogerstein IV sabotaged my cake so now it's war
WHEREISTHEDUELISTPOSTER
>>578859515blood and sand are going to be generator spender bullshit instead of stancesyou think they'd just let you have 100% blood stance uptime?
>>578860585everyone here plays both games, we just like to shit on the poo2babies that only play the two.
>>578860585it's like 1 guy
>>578860721>Old = Good
>>578860721yeah the choice of 1h vs 2h alone being fixed is so good for the game, it will keep the game fresh and fun for way longer
>>578860585No, the poe1ies got assraped by the campaign in 0.1 so hard that they're still seething about it. Everything is downstream from that.
>>578858997When are we getting transfigured gems in Pee oh eee too, I want stages, I don’t want to constantly have to stop and start the channel to maximize dps
>>578860762Duelist still hasn't been released.He's not free from his ritual until December.>>578860813this but unironically>>578860846you don't have to do anything, anon.
>>578860569when will this be? early november?
>>578860747anon, they don't reuse animations at all in poo2, not even a little bit. that's a whole point of pride jonathan keeps bringing up.they could jut use the poe1 system and only very sporadically make new animatios when a totally new type of skill releases and nobody would really care and it would speed up development massively, yet woodful is insisting on every skill being visually different.
remember when GGG used to browse this general and take our feedback. how come they don't do that anymore?
It still amuses me that the endgame boss in Poe 1 is a intermediate boss in the first act of Poe 2. It really shows how one game is a real game, while the other is just a merry-go-round for retards.
>>578860910>release right before exilecon>all streamers go to exilecon>numbers for poe1 plummet quickly>well guys, guess we have to shut it down
>>578860389I wish the community had frothed at the mouth about this, instead of about dying to Viper in a3 and campaign resists (lol).In retrospect, all of 0.1 should've been MAKE SKILLS WORK WITH DIFFERENT WEAPONS OR REFUND. Now we're set on this path and it's fucked forever.I'm normally kinda open to radical change and trying new ideas, but the weapon thing is just a loser.>>578860547>I just don't see how being able to use most weapons with most skills is funChoices are fun. Personalizing your guy to your preferences (using the exact skill you want with the exact weapon you want) is fun. Building with uniques spread across different weapon types is fun. The current situation also creates completely absurd and obtuse interactions like facebreaker+hollow palm.>In Poe 1, it would be literally the exact same thing , the same animations and the same skillsI don't really agree, playing various strike or slam skills on different weapon skills can feel very different because you use a different movement skill (whirling blades, leap slam, shield charge etc), and more importantly for POE1 (which is a game less about physical combat and more about builds), it unlocks room for creativity with uniques and specific rare mods.I think the best of both worlds would be POE1's philosophy (most skills allow multiple weapon types, some are flexible, some are sorted by archetypes such as some slams using only staves, maces, sceptres and axes, some slashing skills use only bladed weapons etc) but with POE2 animation quality. We're just being robbed of fun rn. It would be cool to use a lot of existing skills with other weapon types and it would unlock a lot of new builds and archetypes. I don't want to shoot grenades out of an axe but let me do something that's physically reasonable.
when you go to the bathroom and someone knocks on the door and asks "number 1 or number 2?" and you are making poo poo you answer "number 2" and that's the reference for ggg calling it path of exile 2
>poe2 has a mercenary of trarthus as a playable character>no trarthan gemswtf?
>>578861025you sure as hell dished it out for poo2
poo2 endgame boss (singular, not plural) is a literal world of warcraft tier "move out of the circles, move into the circles" encounter
>>578861273that's ok as long as the circles are diagetic, and it stops being ok when they're not
>>578861273so it's like the eater of worlds and the maven?
>>578861031>no streamers crying because they can't farm 500divs/hour I don't see any problem
>>578859542No way this is real lmao wtf
>>578861273yeah poe instead has "stand in the circle"
>so its like the worst poo1 bossesyes, exactly
>no hard op farms existing is a GOOD thing because i won't feel bad for not being able to do them
>>578861187don't worry anon, poe1 4.0 will introduce the poe2 rigs, add wasd, and """""""""rebalance""""""""" all the skills to compensate for the increased movement capabilities offered by WASDalso sorry but we don't have the animations to let an axe use a slam skill so we're gonna have to restrict that
wasd and moving while attacking is the biggest turn off in arpgs for me, i hope poe1 never gets those things
lvdokino
>>578861546it is unironically a good thing because games should not be balanced around some degenerate transexual RMTing stroomer that's playing for 20 hours a day for 4 weeks
if poop1ers hate poe2 so much, why don't they go play poop1?
>>578861693My friend refuses to play poe1 because it doesn't have wasd movement and only plays poo2
>>578861187I agree that personalization is important, but I also think that striking a balance between it and truly unique things is important too. We need separate skills for weapons, just as we need separate classes and ascendancies. You could just throw it into a single pool of passive skills and let people choose whatever they want, it’ll be fun at first, but in the end it’ll only make things worse because people will just ignore most of them even more than they do now. Limitations lead to interesting builds and solutions, and sometimes more freedom means less variety.
>>578861703you're a retard, seasonal ARPGs are supposed to allow you to feel like you are breaking thingswhat else is the poopsock genre supposed to be balanced around, the 3 job 5 wife 11 kid dadgamer that gets to log in for 3 nanoseconds every week?
you could always do deep delve if you want challenge but you can't
>>578861886the game already has hard farms
>>578861857why are you friends with troon normies?
>>578861886see >>578862014
Does poe2 still have rolling and sprinting?
>>578862014it's embarassing if you think deep delve is hard. the only challenge is to not fall asleep>>578862078this league is all about scour&go, there are no hard farms left, and that's boring
>>578862131yeah lmaogotta feel the weight of that soulslop gameplay ;)
>>578862014>uhhhh people would do deep delve but uhhh sabotage tub poo jeet saar
>>578860569Is Natalia a sexy bitch?
>>578862131yes, soulslop dadgamers love those mechanics
>>578861886>you're a retard, seasonal ARPGs are supposed to allow you to feel like you are breaking thingsbreaking things, such as loot filter tinks? :DDDDD
>>578862257>i-it's boring!! I could t-totally do it if I wanted to>b-but I won't!!!!!!!!! *shits self*
poop2 next update will include jump + crouch for directional evasion
>>578862449>adds jumping>still gets body blocked for some retarded reason
>>578861859I think the ratio is off in the current iteration and you haven't really changed my mind about it.
>>5788624491.0's league mechanic is going to be a first person mode where you play a Mount and Blade style battle
>>578862449who leaked heist bloody nbechodd
>>578862079I guess friend is too strong of a word, acquaintance
>>578862406>dodging attacks is le bad! >making your character move fast is le bad!
>>578862440have you seen the delve hero? he's got room temperature IQ and that's being generous, a monkey could "deep delve"i am taking about shit like giant exiles, alva, juice pumped blight and so on, things you never did because you quit at yellow tier maps
>>578862680>i am taking about shit like giant exiles, alva, juice pumped blight and so on>the quivalent of a 500 depth delvexdddd
>>578862680Can you post your deep delve character?If it's so easy then surely you've done it, right?>uhhhh n-no... it's boring!!!!!!! >I could definitely do it if I felt like it but uhhhh I can't right now sorry!!>you are a poopoopeepee head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>578862660making your character trip and suddenly have tank controls is the bad part. i love fast characters that's why i play poe1>>578862764just stop embarassing yourself, 500 delve is nothing lil bro
>>578862449>jump + crouchuh isn't dodgeroll basically a combo of those two things?
>delve, an outdated, boring, bad mechanic is now the only "hard" farm you can have and that's a GOOD thingpoo2babs really are losingt, aren't they
>>578862680>giant exiles, alva, juice pumped blightpoe 1 is 15 years old, those farms didn't exist until a year or two ago.the big dick farm for most of poe 1s existence was farming beyond.
>>578862941Delve is basically the infinite atlaspoopturders should love it
>>578862809>just stop embarassing yourself, 500 delve is nothing lil broyou almost understood the point i was making but it seems like you are too low iq
>>578862534>adds jumping>risk of Dazed/Stun from banging your head on the ceiling in indoor maps
>>578862946before those farms existed, other farms existed. there were always farms that made you feel like you were breaking the game, like nemesis 3 and other shit
>>578862809>i lack situational awareness and have a hard time reacting to things on my screen so i play poe1. uhhh henlo, based department?
>>578863061>all maps now spawn with a mandatory platforming section>to access the map boss you need to make 6 perfectly timed jumps while dodging traps>enemies now use earthquake style attacks that will cause your character to fall down unless you time your jumps
>>578863102more like>i lack situational awareness and have a hard time reacting to things on my screen so i play ARPGs and diablo likespoo2 is not a diablo like and calling it a "path of exile" game is a travesty.
>>578863073>like nemesis 3that was farming beyond lol
>>578862889jump is faster and more effective at evading ground based attacks, dodge is faster and more effective at avoiding horizontal attacks. dodge is intended for avoiding vertical overhead attacks. you shouldnt be able to just avoid all attacks with one button, that's meaningless
is path of guardrails poo good yet?
Sin is the final boss of PoE2 btw
>>578863208>poo tub woodful jeet sabotageso true sis
there's no way you're telling me this is a girl?
>>578863228the point is that that farm was also crazy and made you feel like you were breaking the game and was not very recent. there were always hard good farms, and now it's just scour&go
>>578863331poo jeet tub esl brown jonatroon zaccie sabotage 2 isn't good yet. check back soon.
>>578862328what the fuck
>>578863404she a cute
Come home, White man.
where the fuck are the "uh akshually you could just deep delve" faggots coming from? did the retard turdtwister stop streaming or something?
wait did they fuck over the drop rates of astrolabes from terror and interference scarab?
>>578863467it was one of the most boring farms the game has ever seen, ignoring all the sextant micromanagement, you ran through the map for 5 minutes killing everything and then spent 15 minutes waking around picking up scraps.
>>578863404>>578863540how come larry is getting so large? steroids?
>>578863809sounds like a poe2 map
>>578863543Ahead of youPoo 1 sucks by the way
>>578863809that was not an issue of the farm but an issue of currency not dropping stacked, like it does now. the point is the farm felt like you're breaking the game, and you ignored that masterfully.i am not saying "i want nem3 back", i am saying the farm existed as a hard/demanding farm you had to have a good character for.
>>578863876the only difference is you can freely run around in poe2, in poop1 you better have nice shoes if you plan on backtracking for loot.
3.30's endgame rework is going to make scarabs rollable.They'll be single use consumable items like they currently are but have modifiers like idols and tablets.99% of the rolls will be tubshit and even more worthless than the current scarabs
>>578863467>breaking the game>loot tinksXDDD
>>578864010>freely>tank control>startup and stop animations>tripping over pebbles
>>578864010sprinting in poe2 is still slower than a poe1 character in the campaign, lil gupta
>>578864141yeah, spawning 100 beyond bosses oer map was kinda insane, the loot tinks are just a nice side effect>loot dropping in games is LE BADthey made a mode for you, it's called ruthlessand then they made a whole game based on that, but that didn't stick for long, go figure.
>>578863910this but poo2: shit of the tub
>>578863937>that was not an issue of the farm but an issue of currency not dropping stackeddo you even know what nem3 was?
>>578864354>OpenMWIt's no surprise that you're Poo 1 shitter
>>578864363retard
>>578864443>poo2 player is a trannyEverything makes sense now
>>578864463thats what i thought lol
>>578864363nemesis monsters drop 3 additional currency items, you're now going into semantics.the only point is: a crazy farm existed years ago when you said "UH AKSHUALLY THE ONES YOU NAMED WERE SO RECENT"scour&go is lame and the game moving into that direction just ain't good
>i wake up>the tubspammer is spamming nonsense again
>>578864501Rent free
>>578864726You know you can still run 8 mod maps, right? The only one forcing you to scour and go is yourself.
>>578864795time to stop waking up
>>578864726i said the only farm poe1 had for the bulk of its existence was beyond. >yeah but what about this beyond farm!
poopy sharty man lostwe won>you won... a big woodful plate of poo2 feces in the tub jonatroon lmao
>i wake up>poop2 is still tubdookie
i never played another arpg since diablo 1 and i'm really enjoying poe2 right now. is poe2 welcome itt?
>>578864916>pootub jonatroon esl jeet brown sabotage goes so hard
>>578865027>>>/lgbt/poeg
>>578864847anon, what content would you put on your 8-mod maps? the """best""" most challenging mapping content is ruckus mercs, and putting that on 8-mods adds nothing to the outcome of running it.speeding to your mandatory astrolabe vault is now a "better" farm than killing hard monsters. that's trash gameplay.
>mercs>delve>lab>kingsmarchhow the fuck can poe2 compete with this?
>>578865113they have sekhama, a shittier version of ultimatum, and soon will have tota (the worst mechanic ever added to the game)
tubspammer is really mad about the sword revealhow dare jonathan keep fulfilling expectations and building hype
>>578865113>delve>lab>kingsmarchthe most mazed content in the game
>please sars don't talking bad about my poopensharten RMT game
SAAR CHADATHAN REVILE THE SWORD ART NOW YOU CAN NOT POST THE TUB WE ARE PROMISED THE SWORD ART 4000 YEARS AGO AND THE CHADATHAN HAS DONE THE NEEDFUL
>>578865091mercs are affected by map mods, lil gupYou wanted to make them more challenging, didn't you?Or are you just lying to yourself and have your lovesense vibrating chastity cage and estrogen drip hooked up to your loot filter?
fucking terrible general
>>578865260Lab is 10000000000000x better than any ascendancy option in poop2 (including tota)
>>578865356true, i could also play the campaign naked for a challenge
>>578865418it's being ruined by literally 2 people on purpose
>>578864275fuck off to poe2 tubgun
>>578865356let me translate for you: i want a challenging farm that scales to that level naturally, including rewards.
>>578865493i mean for farming not for a once-per-league ascendancy point
>>578865636just like poe1 is being ruined by 1 person on purpose, ironic
>>578865674sekhama, ultimatum, and tota are all terrible mechanicswhy would I want to farm that trash
>>578858997what does "both weapons hit seperately" mean
imagine if egon cholakian memory chain was increasing map level by 1 on each map in the chain
>>578865805Means if you have a fast sword and a slow sword, they're each gonna apply a hit based on their own speed, not combine it
>>578865787why would i want to farm delve lab or kingsmarch? if you're the 'why does everyone complain about lack of difficult content when delve exists' guy don't reply to me.
>>578865805each weapon has its own damage roll, rather than combining their stats into one big hit
what am I supposed to do now?
>>578865975dark carnival event in dota 2
>>578865975do exercises to stretch your back out so you can eventually suck your own dick
>>578865776>troonathan ruin poop1!what was the last good poe1 league?>reeeeee poop tub jeet woodful!
>>578866115Settlers was the last high-effort league i enjoyed a lotbefore that, probably affliction and then sentinel.
>>578866115Sentinel was the last good mechanic they made.
>>578866115allflame
>what was the last good poe1 league?affliction, incidentally the last league BFR was involved with, at least tangentially>>reeeeee poop tub jeet woodful!this but unironically
>>578866068I'm just waiting for phase 2 if that exists
>>578865776>i'm mad about ggg's business decisions and powerless to do anything about it>so i'm going to ruin a 4chan threadend result: two years of tub spam
>>578866356it'll release for halloween I heard
>>578866115you call me a jeet but you don't call me wrong. curious...
H A R D
>>578865975https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGZHZGvQNLE
>noooo /poeg/ is ruined because you're allowed to criticize troonathan's game!!!! save me reddit! save me mossad!!
>>578866336>the last league BFR was involved withbreh lolchris stopped working on poe like 10 years ago, the last 3-4 years at ggg he wasn't even in the office outside of pr shit like the livestreams.
>>578866538how did you find my account
>>578866645
>>578866538harsh but trvkeful
>>578866492that isn't how greentext works
>>578865493No.
why is woodful trying to defend his game in pooegg?
>>578865975Poo2 ssf like i didSsf btw
WE LOVE COMBOSGENERATE!SPEND!GENERATE!SPEND!
interestingly, the only other place on the internet seething as hard as the tubspammer is r/poe1
>>578866725>poo2/10KEKIE
>>578866826because he is a pooptubbed brown esl jeet woodful sabotage saar
>>578866608I've never played aion 1...
>>578866920many are saying this
>>578866967and you shouldn't it's too dated now
>>578866920woodful you seem unstablehave you talked to your chink overlords today? are they ok with how your game is developing?
im done with 3.29 and 0.5should i give this another try? i found it dreadfully boring a few years ago
>>578866920trvke
>>578867306it's the best ARPG on the market because it doesn't try to cater to some mazed trannies on twitch
>>578867384ok but who does it cater to?last time i tried it it was just bad.
>>578867306fuck no
>>578867494white males.
>>578867537>french
>>578867537>almost 400 hoursyou loved it
>>578867228poe 2 generated half a billion dollars in 15 months, the chinaman must be content.
>>578867494brown subhumans
>>578865776bodied that jeet
>>578867643yeah but now it's dead and people ain't gonna come backeveryone hates it and ggg lost all their good will and their bald man
>>578867786if it's dead then what is poe1?dust?
how did the internet go from everyone I hate is hitler to everyone I hate is indian?
>>578867831it's pretty obvious poe1 is getting sacrificed on the altar of poo2, but poo2 still ain't working out
tub means victory
>>578867923non-Indian thirdies relished the opportunity to stop being the lowest on the totem pole and capitalized on it bigly
>>578867923nobody likes indians + they're everywhere
>>578867639I hated every second of it
>>578868049didn't 0.5 have like 400k players on launch?
>>578867923indians got internet access
>>578868049
>>578868238the 1/1 worker? poonathan woodful rogers.
>*shits in hand and throws it like a baseball*THINK FAST, WUNNER!
>>578868049why would anyone play poe1 when poe2 exists?
>>578863540I'm thinkin at least 8-9 inches of girlmeat. Absolute colon crusher type gock right there.
>>578868478>why would anyone play poe1they have good taste?they have more than one functioning brain cell?they're white males?
>>578868478because poe1 is good and has good gameplay fundamentals, while all poo2 does is trying to attract normies with soulsslop and looking good
Got a mirrorNow how do I get people to buy it for real money when established sellers are making me invisible on those sites:(
>>578868670it's a brownoid game sister lmao
>>578868478>why would anyone shit in toilet when the bathtub exists?
>>578868823post hand with timestamp
>>578868823except we're talking about poe1 and not 2
>>578868876"no"lmao why would I dance to a monkey's tune?post your brown seethe below
>the thing i like is good and better than the thing you like because i am whitesaid no white person ever
uh oh brownoid seethe
i get that jeets and other asian brownfucks love poo2 because rmt is rampant int hat game
>>578868214>>578868130false>>578868068true
>>578869138>pooptub jeet third world sabotage troonathan brown tub
All of the spergs came out of the woodwork after the 1.0 announcement. The seethe is very entertaining.
>>578869297everyone is saying this
>>578869042He's not wrong. Having shit taste is genetic.
>>578868740Undercut them?
>>578868740if indians can feed entire villages on rmt i'm sure you can figure it out
>>578869297our brown brother is doing god's work
>>578869393that would explain all the poe1 shilling itt.
>flinging shit to prove you're white
>release poo2 beta>we aim for a sub 1 year beta period>2 years later>game releases, isn't even close to having all classes and lacks a lot of other contenthow did we end up here?
>>578870128They thought they could get more money from the beta
Once upon a time there was a bald fucking retard who had three little wunners and not enough loot to feed them. So when they were old enough, he sent them out into the world to seek their fortunes.The first little wunner was very lazy. He didn't want to work at all and he followed only streamer builds. The second little wunner worked a little bit harder but he was somewhat lazy too and he copied the top builds on poeninja. Then, they ran juiced maps together the rest of the day.The third little wunner worked hard all day and homebrewed his entire build. It was a sturdy build complete with multiple layered defenses. It looked like it could withstand SSFHC.The next day, a Troonathan happened to pass by the lane where the three little wunners lived; and he saw the fubgun build, and he smelled the wunner inside. He thought the wunner would make a mighty fine customer and his mouth began to water.So he knocked on the door and said:>Little wunner! Little wunner!>Let me in! Let me in!But the little wunner saw Troonathan's big fat ass through the keyhole, so he answered back:>No! No! No! >Not by the hairs on my bald fucking head!Then Troonathan showed his early access and said:>Then I'll huff >and I'll puff >and I'll *BBBBBBBRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPP*
>>578870235for sure, but the content is STILL missing 2 years later, what gives?
>>578870329too much time wasted supporting poe1
>>578870482but they halted all content for poe1 for a full year when the beta launched, that can't be it
>>578870329they explained it during the 0.5 q&a. >all the stuff we made during poe1 is shitthey quadrupled their annual profit and basically own the genre, they can/will do whatever they want.
>>578870634link to source?seems to me they traded 200k mazed paypigs for 400k dadgamers and bots
>>578870817>mazed paypigs*f2p thirdies
>>578870817those mazed piggies are still playing both games
>>578870951somehow i doubt that
Dead game
>>578870951no they're all playing megabonk now instead
>>578870951so are the bots
>>578871030kek true that, i only know 1 guy who still plays poe1, everyone else moved to poe2.
dead game
>Cyclone is a sword skillWhat the fuck. So what do axes even have? Don't tell me they're tripling down on throwbarb bullshit?
>>578871535sorry chud, we haven't figured out what to give axes yet
>>578871535rhythmical axe juggling which deals damage to you if you fuck up the timing and makes you drop the axe
>>578871535It will have its own flavor of circle attack just like quarterstaffsThere will be some axe-throwing skills, but not as many as spear-throwing skills, and the axe with the best stats can't be thrown.
>>578871535It's crazy how even when they add a whole new weapon type there's no greater implications because it'll only work with the handful of skills they add together with the weaponWe can't flicker strike with swords, we can't cyclone with maces, we can't rolling slam with quarterstavesI just don't know why they'd do it this way
>>578871818This sounds just like Sweep DESU and not cyclone.
>>578871893to keep the guardrails tight and the animations crisp
>>578866623>>578866336sentinel was last baldo league
>>578871818>staff has a spin around attack>sword has a spin around attack>axe has a spin around attackholy fucking jeet pootub woodful brown saar game. who wants to have the same attacks with different weapons?!
>>578871818>ready your axeDOA like most mace skills
>>578871893>there's no greater implications because it'll only work with the handful of skills they add together with the weaponAs an alternative to weapons behaving the same way? Honestly, they should just allow players to apply skins from one weapon type to the other, because that's literally what people like you want.
>>578872158Easier to balance.
>>578872224I mean in a real game the weapons would have differences in their stats like staves having high crit and base damage, with a slower attack speed etc. meaning you'll scale them in different waysIt would help differentiate builds a bit, but I guess we're content with everything being crit and nothing else in PoE2
>>578872051during the expedition podcasts he explained his role at the company, he had nothing to do with the design of of the game. he didn't even know how delve worked. chris checked out a long long time ago.
>>578872615stop pointing out the flaws in poo2, the jeet is already crying
so from what I heard cyclone costs WAY too much mana and no it doesnt matter if its an early build these are things which cannot be adjusted at the last second. its final. its bad. its over
>>578872456I wonder just how much they'll expand on the skills over time
>>578872615>staves having high crit and base damage, with a slower attack speed etc.that is a really good idea, and maces are big and slow so they could have low crit and low attack speed but high base damage. idk why ggg didn't think of this.
>>578872615We already have this difference between item bases. What now?
>>578873068just look back how much they expanded the skills in the last 2 years and interpolate (lol)
>>578873039
>>578873149at times like this i am reminded of pootub jeet woodful sabotage delay saar brown
>>578873039the characters in the playtest were level 50 chars in white gear and 2 support gems, probably with deeply bricked trees. mana consumption for attacks is incredibly solvable in poo2 even if you really bring them up very high.
>>578873156Expansion of archetypes already put in is clearly not their priority right now when they have multiple classes that still need to be made, are you stupid? I'm talking about after everything is in
>>578873156i think you mean extrapolate.
poo2 is soulless chinkslop, i have no idea how nobody understands
poo1 is soulless chinkslop, i have no idea how nobody understands
>>578873513>>578873548both true
>>578873365the point is they shit out minimal content (classes) in TWO YEARS, it's gonna take another TWO YEARS to finish the rest of the classes.
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>>578872736bro he literally said in his talk with jonathan that sentinel was his baby and how his leagues were always smaller in scope
>>578873675many are saying this
>>578873675most coherent thought in this thread
>>578873513>>578873548only one of them started development after tencent acquisition ;)
>>578873713yeah, he didn't say that.
>>578873865stop noticing
>>578873431Imagine if you could use the fanatic greathammer with whirling assault
>>578873985>>578872456
>everything with any connection whatsoever to china is slopsorry to hear about your mental illness
Poe2, China Poe2, Japan
>>578873985THAT IS ILLEGAL AND I WILL BAN YOU IF YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT USING SKILLS OUTSIDE THEIR DESIGNATED WEAPON CLASSES
Poe more like Piss
>>578874130Name one quality thing china ever made that couldnt be made better somewhere else
so why aren't poowunners playing their great leaguespending too much time to shit on poe2 to play your "better game"?
>>578874378china perfected the art of stealing things, nobody can steal as well as chinks
Temu Diablo
wunners wost :(
>>578874461steal then stagnate because cant innovate is the chinese way
>>578874583temu sounds a lot like pootwo
>>578874583d4 no diablopoe1 no diablopoe2 no diablochecks out
I want to try a HCSSF run, but I'm not quite certain how good different layers of defense are and how much I should value them. Resistances and armor/es/ev, sure are easy to understand. Flesh and Stone seems like an easy layer to add. Leech sounds like a given? I'm not quite sure about stuff like Regen (does it depend on your HP since a lot of tree stuff seems to be percentage), spell suppression (never used once), and block (do I need block recovery? How much? Do I just put a point in unwavering stance and I don't need to worry about it?).All this also sounds really melee focused, too. Is being ranged its own layer of defense that I should consider? Should I just do a basic slam build, or are there better builds to get all these different layers online early?
you collected all the expedition boons right anon?
>>578874663so, much like they stole ggg and then stagnated the whole company.grim
i like how pootoorists are always calling poe1 players WUNNERINGERS they win so hard that even haters have to call them WINNERS
>>578841990If she showered that day, then this cosplay is shit.
how did this tub meme come to be? i am too new, i have never seen any tub in poe2.
SHAT IN THE TUBAND JONO'S TO BLAMEYOU MADE POEA BAD GAME
sword gameplay leaked https://x.com/pathofexile2new/status/2092628142561362291
>>578875432the old community manager once tweeted about cleaning her new baby's poop out of a bathtuba guy with a scat fetish turned that into a two-year-long obsession
>>578874746There's certain zones in the campaign that will just fuck your ass. Act 1 grim tangle for example is full of ground degens and delayed kill effects. Getting body blocked is another thing you have to think about. You just have to play safe and know what's ahead
WOLCEN II LETS GO
>>578875432forced meme to bump the thread and drive engagement.
Fucking Wolcen 2 LMAO
>Wolcen 2 announcedYEP PACK IT UP, POE 2 IS DEAD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIYIYKdxNzwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIYIYKdxNzwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIYIYKdxNzwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIYIYKdxNzw
>>578875745>>578875745>>578875745>>578875745>>578875745
>>578875548link to tweet?
WOLCENBROS WON BIGLY
>>578875432Resident schizo spams it to artificially keep the thread bumped.He ramps up spamming near the end of the thread to reach bump limit so he can make a shitty OP like >>578875764
>>578874801the what now?
>>578855370> 100 million signups over 2 months bSure it did, retard.
>>578875742yeah, not buying shit from these devs lmao