Silent Hill F EditionWelcome to /horg/, the place to discuss anything horror games-related, such as:- AAA series: Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Dead Space, Alan Wake, Alien Isolation, Dying Light etc.- Current indie games and hidden gems: Hollowbody, Echoes of the Living, Carnival Massacre, Post Trauma, THE MUTE HOUSE, Heavy Metal Death Can, Ground Zero, Fear The Timeloop, Perished Truth, Tormented Souls, etc.- Retro classics: Alone in the Dark, Clock Tower, Dino Crisis, Eternal Darkness, Fatal Frame, Parasite Eve, Sweet Home, System Shock, etc.- Free mods: HL1's Afraid of Monsters and Cry Of Fear, Doom's MyHouse.wad and Total Chaos, fan-made games like Blood: Death Wish, Penumbra: Necrologue, Resident Evil REVisited, stand-alone free games like SCP Containment Breach, etc.>Horror games lists, guides, and resources:https://rentry.org/horrorgeneral>Wiki (Very WIP)https://manifestationsoffear.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page>Google Drive of the Setting (WIP)https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QCtP8NlKifNEU-HTd_5D5QzOwKJTTLsK?usp=drive_link>Question for the thread:So are you guys excited for Silent Hill: Townfall?>Quick game recommendationsSilent Hill 2, Silent Hill 4>Previous Nightmare:https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/577428459/>Are there any games or other cool stuff (or improvements) that you think should be added to the guide? Feel free to reply to the OP to give out a suggestion.
having to do this part again because I updated PCSX2 augh
hell nah
Chat, I'm prototyping a horror game and need inspiration about how to not make being stuck in a small cell maddenning/boring, you have a job inside, you're slave labour.It'd only be 10-15 minutes before you find out how to get outside and push toward some ending.you can suggest ideas or anything that sounds similar.
>>578890073How long is the game supposed to be?Who's your game for? I guess a kinda grognardy audience since you're asking here but it's still worth defining closer.What's the general gameplay like?
>>578890073Cover yourself in ketchup or give them something else to interact with like a bird who sits in the window.
>>578890073little hole to pass notes back & forth with another inmate/creature/whateverfeeding slot
>>57889036720-30 minutes if you don't die, plenty of fail statesdunno, I don't watch horror streamersinside cell - shovel coal into an incinerator, perhaps maintenance(need to look up coal engines)outside - evade killer, fill checklist of requirements to escape, optional objectives for other endings
>>578890073Maybe some kind toy or implement you can play around with?
>>578886976I do love this game but I hate how enemies spawn infinitely
What are our thoughts on Iron Lung?
>>578896050Very cool concept but its the sort of game you play once and once only. >it's streamerbaitIt's still cool.
Good afternoon retard-chansA thread on /v/ has convinced me to replay this.
>>578899973Rebecca property
My beroved
la creatura, my other beloved...
>>578895651Yeah, the best thing to do is not interact with anything and run if you're backtracking.
I have been dis-quack-ted by my cat but I am still playing Signalis, just slowly. Its still as good as I remember
Big tall strong mommy
The hotel was pretty great until the end. The end was horrendously bad.Looks like this next place will have some Requiem vibes.
>replaying re2remake>using infinite weapons>get bored>restart>not even using infinite knife now>not speeding>just.. re.
Retsu go
>>578427642>is doom a horror gameYou mean classic? I always thought it wasCarmack and Romero have said so several times over the decades: https://youtu.be/-TFq_wyYBJU?t=104
>>578926903lol
>>578926903his knife can't parry whats coming, if you know what i mean
>>578924996Doom 1, 2(especially the final boss), and very much Doom 3. And an honorary mention to Quake 1(liminal horror, fan made episodes have more traditional horror)
I have once again fallen asleep at my desk while playing SignalisI will also continue to wonder why I have so much lower back pain.
>>578945593REBECCA :D
Resonance: A Plague Tale Legacy has releasedA new demo for Onimusha: Way of The Sword has released.
>>578938317???>>578935761Jump in bed anon>>578947323Forgot about Resonance honestly
>>578938317?
>>578958434Sex
Finished Alan Wake 2. I didn't like the first game much anyway, but I would've loved this survival horror approach if it weren't for the Mind Place stuff. Too boring and repetitive
>>578972623>nuresident evil or gtaneither
>>578991965I look like that
Finally finished El Mal Interior, it's pretty much the worst parts of Resident Evil 4 with none of the fun parts fuck disarming the gay bombs.Now I play her dlc.
Where's dbdg
This game deserves more recognition. It looks GREAThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We1kx_s_wog
>>579004664My wife is kinda cool
>>579008843this could be us rn
I did :)
Po?~
I get a loli friend too
>>578998803is it about cows?
>>579020982chased by a curvy, tall goddess of a woman?! oh, the horror!
>>578938317me when the when he when me at the when
>>579021552Looks like this onee-chan's damn brat got rape corrected by Hachishaku-sama, po~
This was marketed to me as a horror game and it looks like its actually just more Big Lady Love Geimu like Hachishaku was :( I haven't been scared once.
>>579021912is that an eroge? sure looks like one...
>>579004891She mogs the fuck out of Jill here. What went so right with her Veronica design?
>>579023463Its called Hachishakusama and everything about it looked like a more serious version of Hachishaku (which has the main character be literally named Chad and he was shredded as a newborn baby) but there aren't any scares so far.
>>579023418Maybe you'll like NAGAISAN too? I think it's also marketed as a horror. Short game though.
>>579023418it looks like a weg
>>579023950That looks cute but I'm actually kinda pissed at this game now since I was in the mood for something spooky. I don't actually mind playing cute/romance games with horror elements (like Miiside) but I wanted that good scary shit tonight.
>>579024060kek yes there is even a fat ugly bastard.
>>579023825I think Jill is nice.
>>579024702I think Jill is perfect, desu
>>579024702>>579025416NuJill has always been hot but Veronica Claire is next level
>>579026096obviously Jill will be next level when she returns in RE10
>>579026096She really is. I wanna kiss her chapped lips so bad it's unreal.
Yeah those fucking chode Japs tricked me with this game not an ounce of fucking horror inside.At least I get to spend eternity with spooky mommy
>>579029237Did chapter select for the Banish Her ending and its actually kinda sad. Don't remember how much I paid for this but if it was less than $10 its fine. Hachishakusama. Also if you look up her skirt 20 times during one section she picks you up and throws you across a playground
>>579030174that sounds hilarious
Doing cleanup on some of the "dead ends" and this bitch really used a contractors light and a fucking bird to trick me into thinking it was daytime.
Finally got done with Alien: Isolation. Took me a good while since I was playing on hard and I like to take my time to explore every nook and cranny and using stealth to avoid softlocking myself due to the Soulslike saving system that only gives you two save slots at a time. Amazing game, you can really feel the passion the team had for the original Alien movie and it's incredibly faithful to the tone and style and aesthetics of it, even the pacing matches the slow burn of the movie since it takes quite a while for it to get going. There are some action setpieces too so there's a bit of Aliens DNA in it too but not a ton (not like that movie was all that action heavy either despite what some people claim) but this is inarguably one of the greatest licensed video games ever made right up there with Rocksteady's Batman Arkham trilogy.Only major critique I have is the pacing near the end it could've been an hour shorter imo, but yeah. There's a lot of walking and sneaking around and not a lot of running since doing so often attracts enemies. The AI of the Xenomorph is a little inconsistent and will sometimes just randomly decide to pop down out of the vents sometimes right next to you barely giving you enough time to react which I suppose actually enhances the tension and suspense. Almost everything about the game's mechanics and overall design is done in service of the OG film's style of suspense and horror with less focus on action than typical survival horrors though you have the option to use weapons unlike other hide-and-seek horror games, in fact near the end of the game you're better off relying more on your weapons rather than stealth when the Xenomorphs get more and more relentless. Also, don't let shitposters deter you with how they exaggerate the flamethrower's usefulness, there's limited fuel to be found and the Xeno will gradually require longer and longer bursts before it flees back up the vents.
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>>579032690This is also basically the only game I would recommend leaving all the shitty film camera post-processing effects on (film grain, chromatic aberration, lens flares, depth of field etc.) due to how it makes everything look and feel more like the old movie the game was based on. The DoF is even implemented as an actual gameplay mechanic in the game which is cool as hell and I normally despise when modern game devs purposely try to recreate the flaws of old film cameras that the film industry all moved away from once digital cameras became widespread, but in this case it somehow works so well.Another thing I want to note is that despite /v/’s shitposts about how RE7 was just an Outlast clone, after finally playing through Alien: Isolation it is immediately obvious that this was Capcom’s major influence on everything from RE7’s tone, pacing, style, game design, gameplay, even the menu font is identical and the photorealistic graphics look very similar to A:I despite not being developed in the same engine. DD2 despite also being photorealistic and using the RE engine didn’t share that look at all. Some of the sounds also sound like they both came from the same sound database even, and the way you pick up items and the real-time crafting system are just so similar to A:I and not at all like previous RE games. Even the low enemy variety and Jack’s stalker sections can be attributed to A:I despite Mr. X and Nemesis predating that game by well over a decade.Looking at every RE engine game so far, the main game influences on those games seem to be Alien: Isolation, Dead Space, Silent Hill and The Last of Us. I’m even willing to bet that the reason why Capcom now wants to annualize Resident Evil releases again after rushing practically every game out the door so far (reminder that RE7 was technically developed in only a single year) and finally go back to making multiple different endings again is in direct response to the new Silent Hill games.
I think it's an absolute masterpiece, better than basically any of the RE engine games and any RE game that isn’t RE1R, RE2 and RE4. Ironic since Resident Evil was always heavily inspired by Alien/Aliens and now the new FPP games got directly inspired by the series again, this time by the GOAT Alien game that kicks nu-Capcom’s talentless asses. Seriously fuck IGN for giving this great game a 5.9.
It was fun I suppose.>>579032690>Only major critique I have is the pacing near the end it could've been an hour shorter imo, but yeahLike five hours shorter desu. I beat it years ago on 360 and I remember the last few hours being way too much. I should replay it though, since Isolation 2 has been announced. I did it on the hardest setting since everyone kept saying Alien was OHKO and it was actually a balanced experience especially since nearly every combat section against non-Xeno's can be stealthed. I think the only time I actually entered combat was when you have to pick something up and the game awakens like 4 or 5 Working Joes, but thats like 60% through the game and I just crafted the EMP bombs to stun them and then blasted the shit out of them.
>>579033186I said give or take about an hour because I think the setpieces and mission structure keeps the game from getting too stale despite not having much more new to show you after the 10th or so mission like when it reintroduces more Xenomorphs in the nest after Mission 14 you can now run into two at a time whereas before there was only a single one to deal with and the Working Joes in those orange hazmat suits or whatever are extremely tanky and harder to deal with than the regular ones and there are less lockers to hide in later on sometimes.
Started years ago and never finished it. Lets go.
Hinako plushie arrived today.
>>579038147
>>579038147Cool shit I actually really wanted to buy that specific PH figure you have there but figurines are pretty low on my priority list right now lel
>>579038147Didn’t even know those were things
>>579046331On Goodsmile you can get them all. I'm thinking of also buying the Ayakakashi one too.
>>579034831Nice buddy, I just got it on steam for 8 bucks a couple weeks ago. Gonna play it in October :)
>>578924996You sound like a pussy.
>>578972623What's so special about 6 anyway? I thought I'd be like the jump from 4 to 5.
>>579072480I think it's got better graphics, but it's mostly hype. It doesn't seem that different from 5.
I've seen several people describe Silent Hill as "Lovecraftian" but that doesn't make sense to me, there is nothing cosmic or eldritcht in the series, you always end up uncovering the reason behind the paranormal stuff that happens and fighting back, in Lovecraftian you can't even comprehend the creatures you find.
>>579075707That’s not always true. I wouldn’t really call it Lovecraftian either since I don’t think it takes much inspiration there but in a good few stories the threat and danger is pretty easily understood. The Shadow Over Innsmouth for example is about a race of fish people gaining a foothold in human society without anyone’s notice.
Lovin’ on my craft till I bust
>>578881582I still don't know what the f stands for
>>579083506Faggotry
>>579077052well yes but we don't really understand Dagon's true nature as an entity, and we don't get to shoot him to death like we do Incubus or "God" from SH3. There's nothing cosmic or alien about Silent Hill.
>>579083506fun with friends
Last Breath has releasedhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4298500/Last_Breath/
>>579075707>there is nothing cosmic or eldritcht in the seriesThe Other World by nature is eldritch, being a cancerous other reality trying to subsume our own - even if you don't think it and Samael/"God" are intricately connected in any manner. Also f comes out and shows that there are no bullshit rivalries between otherworldly divinities in the setting and you can argue being used as a pawn in a scheme between competing powerful gods is itself "Lovecraftian".
>>578900384CEASE
>>579083506foid
>edge doesn't upload catalog on /v/>captcha is shit>4chanx doesnt work on bravei hate it here
>>579101667My favorite RE moments are when you shove through enemies totally unharmed and nonviolently and say "scuse me pardon me" at the screen. Like in OG RE4 you could flinch forward with a short run button tap, send an entire crowd of ganados into whiffed attacks with long recoveries in front of you, and just run straight into them so that they are pushed out of the way while you pass. Kino.
>>579110304Which RE girl would say "husband"
>>579033093They fucking NAILED the atmosphere there.
>>579110647the hwite ones
>>579088857i haven't read every single lovecraft story but i'm pretty sure the term "Lovecraftian" is a label for cosmic horror even if he wrote stories about manipulative creatures like Nyarlathotep
>>579050889We really gonna dick measure over horror now?? lolIt's easy to see that's what id intended when they made Doom there are far more ambient songs used in classic Doom like Suspense & Sinister & Sign Of Evil than there are songs like At Doom's Gate & Kitchen Ace not to mention all the diminished lighting used everywhere probably groundbreaking at the timeDoom 3 was just the natural evolution of that: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAD2502F2CB75CC90
Is anybody else playing sinking city 2? Does the shotgun feel weak as fuck?
When can I play the remake of Code Veronica
>>579122684two weeks
Can you emulate P.T.? Apparently there is a fan port as well. What's it like. I somehow managed to go over a decade without knowing what happens in it (besides that it was teasing a now cancelled silent hill game)
Done with the hospital now it's time for tentacles
>>579128724In Serbian it's tarzančići (тapзaнчћи), literally little Tarzans
>>579038147cute!
>>579122684Capcom usually releases new Resis during Q2 of a new fiscal year so probably sometime in Jan-Feb-Mar of next year.
>>579122684hopefully early 2027, i NEED those new claire sfms
>>579133367At least we have Jill in RE9 in the meantime, I've been dying for new Jill pictures that aren't just the same handful of cutscenes from 3R (I'll never understand why it doesn't have a photo mode)
>>579129756I would like to unknow this
>re2re>always made either shotgun or handgun ammo>wondering if i can get away making mag and smg ammo this time
>>579135971One of the signs they just didn’t give a fuck
>>579139916honestly, the shotgun is just the best weapon in the game because of the power-ammo availability ratio, if you don't want to spend an eternity unlocking the mag you alays go route b
>>579139927They gave a fuck, they just gave half a fuck because they actually thought their DBD ripoff was a good idea and wasted dev time on that
>>579140321speaking of those two weapons, where is the best place to kill two zombies with one shot?
>>579140691if you're talking about the cheevo i remember getting it with the rocket launcher (after killing super tyrant you get jumped on but you should have at least 1 rocket). you can probably just use the mag in the sewers in the tiny room after the steps, it can pierce through.
>>578934660>>578926903How big is ada's wong?
>>579142921
>>579142921asking the wong questions
>>579146203
Star Trek elite force 2 (2003)Samsung R610 vista home premium (2007)
>>579149583Resident evil camera mode. Armor pickup in front of me. Oriental music with a harp.
>>579150423Last post for now.
>>579151867She’s so cool
>>579151867why is she next to darth vader samurai
>>579122215I got done with it a few days ago. I’d recommend blowing their backs out with it.
>>579135971>RE9 JillNot going to happen apparently
1-3 Cryo Winter louisville hospital start4-6 Cryo Winter Rosewood start7-9 Cryo Winter wilderness start0 Normal non Cryo Winter WildernessDont mind me, just rolling on my next Project Zomboid run.
>>579186797Cryo Wilderness it is then.
1-3 fart4-6 shart7-9 solid poop0 diarrheaDont mind me, just rolling on my next bowel movement
>mention PZ>some faggot throws a tard tantrumEverytime.
>>579151867i'm not sure if its warcraft or fortnite artstyle
bump>>579196082>retarded cultural mixIts Fagnite.
Wicked Sneed dlc-tier free update, Daybreak, just dropped.
the boss/finale encounters in this game are horrendously bad but the rest of game has been decent
We need more pregnant RE girls.
>>579209537Under is the best( ˃ᯅ˂) ( ꪊꪻ⊂)
>>579215345nooooooooooooo
>>579033093>>579033186>>579113218You guys should check out this video essay on the fallout of that IGN Alien Isolation review if you have about an hour to spare. I was never really into gaming news but I guess this one review was kind of a watershed moment for games journalism not being considered as trustworthy as before? He only briefly mentions gamergate but I think he overall brings up some really good points on both the game and how journalists often lack basic knowledge and taste for good game design also makes a pretty good case for why the pacing is basically perfect because of all the gameplay density very interesting stuff hopefully CA will be able to deliver again with Isolation 2 but it has been a long time nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RcyC5EzoeQhttps://youtu.be/_RcyC5EzoeQ
>>579226785Tbf Cuphead and GG were first but yeah, Alien Isolation IGN review was also significant.
>>579226785>video essay about ign reviewrather get killed by an alien for real
>>579227007Cuphead was 2017 thoughbeit>>579227153There's actually informative stuff about the game itself too like for example if you keep dying over and over and don't master the game's mechanics since it's not memorization based stealth with predictable patrol AI the pacing is going to seem worse than it is
>>579228061>Cuphead was 2017 thoughbeitYeah and it was much more significant to how people treat and see gaming journos.IGN AI review was run of the mill IGN faggotry desu, same with Rome Total War 2 reviewers achievements scandal and IGN Xcom 2 review.
who the fuck pays attention to ign reviews
the alien iso. review was legendary shit, we know, no need to bring it back to the spotlight.
>>579228815Lots of people did back in 2014 their review video was watched over a million times and very likely could've attributed to lower sales since Isolation was just coming hot off of Colonial Marines that was a huge piece of shit the Youtuber even admits that was the reason why didn't get the game for a while at first
>>579227153>he didnt watch the 16hrs deep analysis and utter shitting on Resident Evil 4 RemakeDo you even autism bro?
I've only seen the first alien film (and I barely remember anything besides the fact that I really liked it). Are the others worth watching and do I need to watch them to play isolation
>>579231698If anything seeing only Alien 1 helps with playing Isolation.
>>579231805Great, I'll rewatch it and then play the game. I remember being really satisfied with the ending and wondering why were there 20 sequels
>>579231947>sequelsSequel.There is only Aliens, no other Alien movie exist.
>>579232048They are that bad? Is the second one worth watching?
>>579232426As i said - only Alien and Aliens exist plus some games. There was no other Alien movie.
>>579232426alien is greataliens is great in a different wayalien 3 is not good, but it's kinda funalien resurrection is complete dogshit, the absolute worst thing the franchise has ever madeprometheus was neati know i watched alien covenant but i really can't remember it; it was probably oknever got around to romulusthe crossover movies are dumb action but kinda fun in a way
>>579229206And breather watch that 12 hour video on why Badwater Basin is the best map in TF2
>>579232426Covenant was rancid ass and probably the worst here but Romulus was way better than I was expecting it to be go for that one if you’re curious
>>579232426Alien is a great horror movieAliens is a great action moviePrometheus and Covenant are in my opinion, two really poorly implemented films of a very cool concept.Romulus is very good. Alien 3 and Resurrection are fucking ass. The AvP movies are fun but bad. Jonesy is best boy.
>>579232426just watch Outland and pretend its in the same universe
>>579232426Alien is a straight horror film while Aliens is action horror, but both are masterpieces. 3 is boring and Resurrection is so bad it's good. Lots of people hated Prometheus because it's a mystery box movie that tries to answer questions that didn't need answers yet still fails to answer any and just sets up more questions at the end, but I honestly thought it was decently entertaining, just slightly above average. The narrative beats is probably the most similar to the first movie out of any other and it still feels like a horror movie once everything starts to go wrong. Covenant is kind of bad, but I actually really liked Romulus despite all the memberberries. Romulus also takes a lot of inspiration from Isolation. AvP movies are action horror again and Requiem proves an R rating with lots of gore doesn't automatically make a better horror movie than a PG-13 one.All of the movies are sci-fi horror, some of them are just also action, adventure, mystery. Don't listen to anyone who says Aliens isn't still a scary horror film just because it's also an action film because if you pay attention to the first movie the Xenomorph isn't actually as tough as it's depicted in Isolation, especially knowing what movie Aliens tries to copy from and how Cameron made the first Terminator film as a techno slasher copying from Halloween and what type of movies he worked on before those. It wasn't until the 90s that he moved away from horror completely, even T2 still has some horror elements but leans more towards suspense thriller overall than suspense horror.
>>579128724in english they're called dingleberries
>>579243707cute
>>579110304what tha dawg doin
What the fuck is going on in Resident Evil post 4? I just finished Village and kinda realized I have no fucking clue what's happening. The BSAA starts offscreen, Chris is a member (a founder???), then the BSAA becomes evil(?) offscreen, Chris is leaves and is part of what??? And now the BSAA has bioweapon soldiers which is bad, but rosemary is a bioweapon soldier which is good? Again aside from 7 (beat it a long time ago), I've been playing re from re0 to 8. I feel like most of the events of the actual story are happening somewhere else, like in some other side media or spinoff game like revelations. Am I missing something?
>>579260686shut the fuck up and shoot zombielikes, collect shit, backtrack and solve puzzles for elementary kids
>>579260686Rev 1 confirms that the BSAA is pretfy strong but also has dirty, corrupt elements inside it that's kind of the whole plot then rev2 also has claire and moira kidnapped because a corrupt terra save sold them out, the RE series is just full of shitty people who fuck up organizations that started up as good.
>>579264075I guess getting backstabbed at home in your own organization is the resident part of the evil
>>579260686I feel like you’ve asked this before
>>579260686Ever since they got rid of Umbrella, each game has both tried to establish a new status quo and then subvert it for drama. The only constant is that faceless BSAA soldier is the highest lethality job on earth.
>>579260686>B.O.W.bad, shoot>B.O.W. (cute girl)good, protect
>>579260686Chris was a founder and so was Jill. The BSAA only came about in 2004 after Umbrella was bankrupted after trial. Most of this is still unanswered though. We don’t know what the deal is with the BSAA and the BOW soldiers and if they’re “evil”, it’s possible it’s only a handful of people up to some shady stuff. >like in some other side media or spinoff game like revelations. Am I missing something?Not in this case there isn’t but unironically yes. There’s been some very pertinent pieces of information that have only been released in some very obscure places for some weird reason. Blue Umbrella’s entire schtick and the reason for its existence for example was only really properly explained in a series of pamphlets that released with Tokyo Marui airsoft guns (there’s more to this if you’re interested)>The Umbrella Corporation was rehabilitated under corporate reorganization law, and due to its moral obligations, it dismantled its private military company, the USS, and instead established a department called the Special Cases Response Team as a field agency to the BSAA. It provides support to the BSAA, an anti-bioterror corps led by the United Nations.
I'm tired of pretending Revelations wasn't the best fucking RE
>>579292372Look at that nose
>>579203548what game?
>>579294794I love it
>>579293674Revelations sucked
>>579295283>>579292372Jill needs to be pregnant.
>>579295998After marriage, yes
>>579295998With zombie dobermann mutts
>>579296243To Chris of course.
Looks like there’s a new mod that tries to recreate RE4R’s deleted Chapter 0. If you didn’t know before, there was going to be an alternate intro where you played as Ashley before Leon showed up, and tried to sneak and run past Ganados before she gets captured. This seems to match up with early leaks indicating that there was a new Ashley intro, and the reveal trailer showing her running from something in the intro segment. It was likely deleted for pacing.https://www.nexusmods.com/residentevil42023/mods/7096
>>579301584>something in a remake was deleted for pacinghmmm where I have heard this before, I'm sure someone else has Clocked it
>>579301665>they cut something for pacing>pacing is still asslel
>>579301584Damn, I just uninstalled RE4R. Looks cool but I get why they cut it, it wasn't in the original after all
>>579303170Yeah god forbid remake im paying full price actually ADD stuff to the old game.
>>579303170damn crapcum drone
>>578896050The concept is undoubtedly interesting and original but it doesn’t go enough with either it or its gameplay. Haven’t seen the movie yet.
Claire is my wife.
>>579324428okay Leon
