Labs are unironically way less spooky than just a town

damn actually managed to fill a thread? only took two weeks lmao.

Is Soulash 2 good?

>>578941889
No

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new char. keep restarting though because of shitty spawns, like near a fungal tower and shit
trying to be a bit more balanced at the start since all these mods add a ton of power ups.
>>578941889
yes

>>578941910
>>578942059
the duality of man

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last second escape. goddamn golems killed this start three times before and this was the first time I could get away

whats the basics for magiclysm. i keep trying it but end up just using guns before getting very far

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got a lucky cargo spawn in the woods, almost cucked by another clay golem. got lucky and found a single grenade in the few crates I checked
>>578944129
just gotta start as some kind of caster if you don't want to deal with rng for spellbooks. not sure how it is these days. the BN version has books super rare it seems like or maybe I've just been unlucky

>>578944129
Play arcana instead

>>578942059
I just use free form cause I don't want my guy having to be mentally ill and allergic to everything just to not get tired fast
A fucking machine gun turret will instakill them regardless

>>578944129
Unless it's been changed since I last did a mage run, the higher your mana the faster you passively regenerate it, so going all on in INT and magic feats can let you spam spells with little rest time. Couple this with a good AoE spell and you can sweep everything faster and cheaper than guns ever could.

>>578944663
i mean what do you even do to even start, i find a few books and most of it seems useless so i dont use them. do i just use spells anyways even if they suck?

>>578945028
If you didn't start as a mage using the mage professions or buy some spells in character creation, your only option is to drive around with binoculars and climb stuff to map out more of the world in hopes of finding wizard towers and cabins, both found outside of cities.
There are also some houses in cities that have spellbooks and a fast travel teleportation anchor, but they're unlabeled and kinda rare so looking for them is a lot of effort.

Some spells did just suck back when I played, but it might have been balanced by now. The spellbooks tell you the spell's damage, cost, cast time, and how much it gains per level, so use that to judge whether a spell is good. But in general, any AoE damaging spell is going to be good, so the stormshaper wizard start is always a good one since they get an AoE lightning spell.

and to clarify >>578945398 , wizard cabins are just called cabins on the overmap. You'll have to get close to see if it's actually a wizard cabin, and even then it might not have a spellbook.

>>578945497
i think i know the cabins, they seem to always have a random magiclysm only monster, like some mage or some shit inside?
also i do want to focus on being a rootytooty gun and shooty player, thats supplemented with magic, not really a magic focus. will NOT choosing a mage gimp my ability that much?

>>578946665
If you don't find good spellbooks, yeah it'll gimp your ability because you won't have the ability at all lol. But even with 8 int and no mage traits, you'll still have enough mana to supplement your killing. I think you also get a bonus 500 mana for each school of magic you learn a spell in, so it's worth still looking for wizard buildings so you can try to learn one spell from every school which can net you thousands of mana.

Sometimes I started as a mage but still built for guns/melee just so I could guarantee I'd start with a good spell and be in a wizard's building where more might have spawned. It's a cheap workaround, you won't get the stuff the other starts would give you but finding a gun store is a lot easier than finding a wizard building and spellbooks.

>>578947008
i kinda want to roleplay a regular human and treat the magical elements as something that just came along with the zombies, instead of it being a "oh yeah magic was always a thing" deal.

>>578947207
Ah. Then you'll just have to keep driving until you find a good spell lol. Remember that being higher up extends your overmap vision radius along with having binoculars.

>>578947672
climb the trees as well

I don't remember why I liked these games. Can you tell me why?

>>578949080
Ain't nothing but a roguelike
Ain't nothing but a roguelite
Tell me why, I never really wanna hear you say
I want /indie/ to stay away

>>578949080
It's roguelike not roguehate

indie is too similar to india and I don't like it

>>578944519
If you know where to look, and can survive getting to them, they aren't that rare.
Scrolls are pretty common too and a lot easier to get to.

huh, okay, so if you google 4chan rlg and click into the thread that way, you cant click reply or make replies. why the fuck is that.

>>578953948
I tried and seems like it appends "rlg-roguelike-general" to the URL which bugs the site out

>>578953948
Google search doesn't exist anymore, what you get is an AI simulation of /rlg/.

>>578940268
In DDA/TLG, is there a way to make autodriving boats ignore "crashing" into creatures? It's annoying as hell having to restart autodrive because the boat won't push some fuckass duck out of my way without manual intervention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTjiTJm7jjg

>>578958185
im pretty sure no. it would be possible to cause catastrophic damage and sink the boat, unless it gave you an entire enemy list and let you select who/what to ignore.

good idea, an ignore/plow through this motherfucker list, but someones gotta actually do the legwork to implement it.

I want to build a class system
What would be the dividing line between a base class and a ... prestige class? Base class is just boring?

>>578959209
>it would be possible to cause catastrophic damage and sink the boat
Other than smashing into structures, is it actually possible to damage a boat from running into stuff? Ducks, zombies, fish, they've all just been pushed to the side of the boat as it moves with no apparent damage.

>>578960056
>with no apparent damage.
huh, really? i would of expected it to me like cars where even geese can tear an engine block out

>>578960491
Nope. I'm plowing through flocks of birds and giant water bugs at 27+ speed in my speedboat with no problems. Boat is still in the "like new" condition I first found it in.

>>578960491
okay, if that is the case, than the issue is weird fuckery where an enemy transports through a solid wall and ends up inside your boat somehow and murderizes you while you autotravel. of course, any pain pauses the autotravel and you get a chance to deal with it, but i bet thats so common with how much distance you can travel id probably just disable it.

>>578960681
huh. boats are kinda sounding sorta OP

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fuck now a waterworld run sounds really interesting. some sort of arbitrary time limit for being on land, constantly moving. somehow spawn/teleport to the ocean at the start. theres a bunch of scuba diving/swimming mechanics in the game that is NEVER used, i bet its unbalanced as all fuck

>>578959863
Have a look at how neverwinter nights handled it.

>>578960773
>than the issue is weird fuckery where an enemy transports through a solid wall and ends up inside your boat somehow and murderizes you while you autotravel
Possibly, but like I said creatures seem to actively get moved to the sides as you move through. Weird shit yo.
>>578960824
I always wondered why nobody seemed to talk about boats. Fun fact, you can probably staple hull parts to your deathmobile base and congratulations your deathmobile is now amphibious. You don't even need a propeller or anything like that, it just fucking werks.

Uh, but make sure your vehicle says it'll actually float before driving into the water or else you're going to have a bad time.

>>578961310
ive heard people mention how trivial it is to make your deathmobile a deathmoboat, but i figured at that point you were already messing around with aviation and it was like an endgame sort of thing. all this yappin has me wanting to start as a kayaker with a canoe and just force myself to travel ye old blue hell

>>578961310
>I always wondered why nobody seemed to talk about boats
Probably because there's mostly nothing in the water. Even when I make my deathmobile submersible I try to avoid it because autodrive doesn't like the quantity of mobs in the water and the fact they can be hidden until you're right next to them.

Seafaring roguelikes?

the one piece roguelike is real

>>578961853
>canoe
Nice, I hope you enjoy your travels
>>578961915
I've always found amphibious vehicles to be super useful in skirting around all the forests and shit that can't be autodriven through. And while there isn't much in the water in terms of POIs, it's nice to be able to fuckoff from the land to somewhere relatively peaceful.

>>578962006
Cataclysm

>>578965961
>every day we stray further from god...

>>578965961
why
do
they
do
subtitles
one
word
at
a
time
like
this
I
fucking
hate
it

>>578968871
tiktok

>>578968871
The audience loses interest and if they have to read more than one word at a time.

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I keep coming back to Cataclysm even though it sucks

>>578976260
There's nothing else like it

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>lucky nuclear plant start as a mad scientist character
>wizard tower right next to it
>dodge bulletes and golems to reach the tower
>its full of migos
>no spellbook on the two floors I was able to check
goddammit

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its beautiful. never found a working tank before. not sure what to do first. found a lab surrounded by ants but I have no science id yet. have a couple guns and some ammo but nothing big aside from the turrets on the tank.
my goal now is to find books, get mechanics up and fully repair this bad boy and go hunting for parts to make it better.
how FUN is BN with car mechanics? could I attach turboprops on this thing and make it fly?

>>578961057
neverwinter nights is literally just old dnd

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Rate my futuristic murderchopper. It's maybe around 90% done, I still need a couple of raids on hazardous waste sarcophagi to collect enough nanomaterial to fill out all the roof tiles with quantum panels. And of course military blacksites for more hover repulsor units.

>>578986610
>could I attach turboprops on this thing and make it fly?
Absolutely. You can even make it fly with just e-motors if you slap enough batteries and enhanced (preferably super) motors on it.

You will need mechanics 10 chain the motors though, so hope you find the correct books.

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>>578971731
>your innocence is determined by an americans attention span
grim

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>>578990752
based as fuck. this save is blessed
managed to find another wizard tower and was able to deal with the plastic golems easily. got a paladin's spellbook and a stormshaper one. not sure which to try.

>>578994910
IIRC stormshaper has spells that grant immunity to electricity, and that's one of the biggest dangers early game. Not sure if that spellbook grants it though, but if it does, I suggest you learn it asap. Paladin gives holy blade which is a reliable source for a good melee weapon that unfortunately glows which is a danger during night time when you're doing sneaky breeky shit with NODs. The other spells are kind of eh. Haste is really strong but has an inconveniently short duration.

>food spawns in suburban houses has been gimped
>foraging has been gimped heavily
>fishing and hunting won't work because i made a blind retard with 6 perception
man, The Last Generation is actually challenging me for a change. i had to make the difficult decision to kill the starting NPC and process him into jerky.

Ragu with extra procedural generation (hold the grind)

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>light a cigarette
>go install some bionics
>forget that my cigarette is still lit
>get a notice that my coat has burned away
hahaha no I am savescumming this

>running MoM
>go to a crystal field and shoot up the psychic ferals there
>tfw get not one, but two crystals off their bodies
>tfw they're even different colors (yellow and cyan)
Well, I suppose it's time to do some savescum work

>>578987390
It's not a 1 to 1 copy.

>>578987390
>3e D&D
>published in 1999
>old
He ain't old until he's got grandkids

Is wandering hordes still fucked like it used to be

>try to use tank to push tiny car out of the way
>half of the tank just disintegrates
damn

Anyone else getting access violation crashes on past few bn builds?

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where are these sewers from? don't remember seeing ones like this in dda. found an integrated toolset cbm in one of the alcoves like this

>>579025090
I had one crash on yesterday's nightly but nothing since on today's and I've played all day

>>579025936
I don't know if its cause refugee center didn't spawn in range or failed to, its strange

If refugee center fails to spawn at all can that cause crashes?

The quest gets no cords on it and its mentioned in crash log towards end

Is it called refugee_center as a object? Because its not showing as a overlord object to teleport to and evac shelters just say dn_sw

This sucks i lost a good lab start to aids :c

>>579022679
vehicle damage is fucked, man. Even with endgame modded vehicles, crushing zombies and vehicles and walls just isn't an option. I wish we could roll a tank through a building and it would just work

P

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jolt is just too good

Good night, /rlg/

welcum to the dirty night

final ... bamp

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You snuggle your blanket to keep warm.

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>>579048498
when did they add exploding head syndrome, the syndrome where when your tired you sometimes hear either your name or a bang that sounds impossibly loud and like it originated inside your ear, that seems to be more likely to happen to people who have just recently learned that exploding head syndrome is real, just like you, the reader of this post, have just learned?

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>new xcom game but it's star wars flavor
my fellow roguelike players what do you make of it?

>star wars
>but no lightsaber or force power
it's slop

>>579038816
honestly the magiclysm spells are all great. but my favorite is probably just the items. wand of fireball cleans up
>>578986610
amazing. does it fire? show us

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i haven't actually tried the main cannon yet, stopped using it for now until I can get enough stuff to fix it up proper. I'll test it out next time I'm in the area

Where are the big titty mods for bn?

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BLIMP

>>579053041
Is there an easy way to find blimps? I don't think I've come across any odd shadows in my travels

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>>579053229
I found it along with several other damaged helis on top of this CRIT defensive outpost. was a pain in the ass trying to get it out

>>579053327
Can blimps stay up indefinitely?

>>579053709
I'm not sure. seems like they should. the batteries seem to only affect motion
I'll fiddle around with it more tomorrow. it was pretty damaged so I was wary about going very far with it

>>579054180
I just want a slow moving fat ass platform that doesn't get stuck on every fucking rock and tree for auto travel

My car has crashed onto empty air in a recent build. Destroyed a wheel and shattered several frames.
This is what savescumming exists for. I cheated not just the game, but myself, and I'm happy about it.

>>579054789
The latest builds been crashing like crazy for me, only get access violation errors so its vague as to why, something is fucky

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Fuck my existence slop I'm gonna rogueslop my own life

>>579053229
Race tracks.

Is GTA 6 a roguelike?

>>579056667
>GTA 6
wrong board friend. Movie discussions go on >>>/tv/

>>579049704
Really? Might pick it up then.

fentlike

>>579051676
Those mismatched board tiles would drive me insane. And please shape the front corners so that they curve properly.

>>579055353
Stations too.

But speaking of blimps, is there a reason why you would want to use them? I've always just gone for advanced 3D printer to make infinite carbon fibre filaments (with some assistance from plastic golems that are ubiqutuous in wizard towers) and when I'm at that point I just make a full on murderchopper. One set of gyros will suffice until I find a military helipad or an aircraft carrier, at which point I put on heavy duty military blades on the thing. Or if I get to a blacksite, I just put a repulsor on it and then I'm set.

Is there any advantage to having a blimp instead?

>>579076828
The fuel consumed while hovering i guess.

>imgui still has cutoff text with no wrapping all over the place
amazing

>>578968871
>>578971731
it's obviously for vertical screens, hello?

>>579078293
I suppose. But is there a tangible benefit to hovering like that?

>trying to savescum my way through getting psionic powers with MoM
>just isn't working
>dive through the MoM git to look for the random variable that allegedly impacts how difficult it is to learn new powers
>figure it out, turns out my character is making their attempts at a decent handicap
>literally acting as if I'm trying to learn more powers when I already have 5
>try to edit the variable with the debug menu down to 0 or 1 instead of 5
>the value isn't changing despite my efforts
>eventually figure out how to work the magic of the ZZip shit the save data is in
>finally can learn my powers
>it took like 45 minutes to an hour of chasing shit and trial and error without any real idea what to look for in this game's pile of json
>mfw I now feel a sense of satisfaction that I haven't had since I was a software dev intern being tasked to look at 3rd party tools and "figure it out"
It's been too long since I've had fun banging my head against the wall reading code

upgraded from DDA 0.G to 0.I and I don't like it. TLG seems to have a lot of changes I agree with so I'm going to try that. What versions do you guys play?

>>579084678
Not TLG that's for sure

>>579084678
I normally just play experimental. I use the launcher that's similar to DDA's Catapult, called Daboob or some shit, and it makes it easy to check pull requests to see if anything in an update might blow up my stuff. I don't remember why I had to stop using Catapult, but something didn't want to play nice with TLG back when I switched over

>wanted to do a knightly medieval-lite run
>pretty much became a sea pirate run
It's almost summer and I've done nothing but boat around a massive lake/ocean that touches several NPC hubs while gunning down anything in my way. Think I'm going to restart and force myself to avoid the water. Should I do a rat princess prison start?

>>579080731
You can go to sleep, or craft or read or whatever without eating fuel?

>>579086458
Just ban yourself from using gun.
Pretty much every challenge run gets more interesting with that.
If you really want to turn the screws and force yourself to be more creative, no modern vehicles and no electricity.

>>579084678
0.H, didn't update to 0.I because I, too, don't like it.
I hope you get comfy with your preferred pre-0.I version anon, cataclysm is only going downhill from here, no matter what fork.

what the hell am i supposed to focus on in Elin? i went to the cave and got the minstrel girl(which i made into a maid), but i honestly don't know what to do next. i feel weak as fuck

>>579095935
been a while since I played but you should train your skills up on a dummy or something. also get the parasitize skill so you can have your lil sister riding your shoulders.

>>579089152
No I understand that much, what I mean is that there doesn't seem to be much of a benefit to hovering like that in the first place when you can just set your helicopter on top of a highrise building instead. Or a remote island.

>>579084678
Most people migrated to Bright Nights instead of any DDA branch. The DDA devs seem to hate anything fun and are determined to ruin player experience for the sake of Realism or Challenge (whichever they feel like any given moment)

>>579093039
The only endgame is to make your own fork

>>579097091
Hovering 3 levels up in the air and using your rope ladder thing to drop straight into the middle of a military base.

>>579099992
I'm sorry but that just seems like a terrible idea. The turrets and acid snipers will be poking holes into your balloon, and if none of those exist you might as well, again, just set it down on a roof and climb down.

>>579100514
Their are no turrets and acid snipers don't attack you if they can't see you.

>>579096582
thanks. i'm sitll lost completely. for example, how do i unlock better floors/walls?

is kevin a milf

>>579102086
What do you mean by better floors/walls?

>>579086458
>sea pirate run
That sounds amazing actually

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what do you think of my ride?

>>579076828
You can live in the blimp forever and never land. Sleep in the air.
Admittedly there isn't much material benefit compared to just landing your helicopter on the top of an office tower, but then there isn't much material benefit to engaging most of the systems in the game. It's a style thing.

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fucking finally, took a few days and several floor 18-20 deaths but my fault for not reading who could freeze/stun

>>579093039
>no matter what fork.
Meanwhile BN gets new monsters and new dungeons and other fun things

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>>579049943
>amazing. does it fire? show us
the first one wasn't HE I guess and went right through this bookstore. second one was HE and made a visible crater which is cool. that was my only two shells for it though. hopefully I can source more. kind of want to make a mini tank that is easier to navigate in

>>579118561
I suppose so. Are blimps as fast as choppers though? I find it incredibly boring to crawl forward so I just zoom ahead 500+ km/h on z-level 10 and look for interesting locations to loot. Then touch down, clear, and move on.

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>>579125090
>kind of want to make a mini tank that is easier to navigate in
Look for a military blacksite. If you can clear out the turrets on the outer peremiter, and then the 4 laser turrets on the inside, and then clear out the hyper decked out cloaked feral kill team in the basement, you can find a solar tank, experimental hover-APC or even a hovertank in pristine condition.

I wish finding cata mods was easier instead of
>go look at the specific discord
>you gotta check a pin
>you gotta ask for some autistic to link it directly only

I cant find the big milkers, i know its out there somewhere, where's the really retarded foreign mods covered in moonrunes and slutty zombies

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What characters do you like to play rlg

ride

>>579119310
Get back to me when BN has pockets

>>579136296
DDA also has some really cool eldritch horror elements. I really miss the freaky physics labs...

>>579136296
>pockets
eww no thanks

>>579140257
I like pockets. It makes me feel so tactical when I can determine what goes where and I can always have critical meds on me when I need to dump my backpack and run. I wish BN had pockets because DDA is just garbage otherwise.

>>579140429
BN has holster slots that can hold ammo/weapons/tools/etc. You don't need DDA's pocket autism to simulate having a rifle bandolier or 20 magazines strapped to your dick for quick access while hard.

>>579132705
Max damage max tanking max movement

>>579089409
>Just ban yourself from using gun
Normally I'll ban myself from using guns other than pistols. That way I have a hand cannon in my ass if something really scary comes at me and I can't use a bow in time, but I'm not able to just casually blast my way through cities like with a 5.56 rifle.

Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever actually tried using crossbows. Any idea how they compare to bows in TLG/DDA?

>agoraphobic triggers while you're in a car
damn

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why do I take a fuckton of self damage every time I cast chain lightning? only precast was furnace of sorcery, chain lightning is unupgraded, none of my equipment says anything about self-damage

Good night, /rlg/

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Does the BN mod blobexpansion not have sprites anymore for some reason? I presume it used to because someone opened an git issue a couple months ago and they had sprites.

>>579140982
Yes I do. I want to have an emergency ifak strapped to my body and only have random loot in my backpack. I simply cannot do that with BN.

>>579155875
Favoriting items gives them priority protection when dropping a bag iirc.

>>579156062
>having a bunch of favorited items to stop them from being ditched with your bag vs using the favorite system to give handy inventory hotkeys to your commonly used weapons/tools
NTA, but I also cannot imagine playing without pockets. I've tried BN several times, and it just doesn't feel right.

>>579095935
>>579102086
>focus
Is there anything in particular you want to do or get? Looking around the wiki sometimes gives me ideas for stuff to work on. https://ylvapedia.wiki

>feel weak as fuck
Besides finding better gear, keeping stat and skill potentials up makes leveling quicker. What race and class did you pick?

>better floors/walls
Loytel sells the workshop recipes if you haven't got em already. For more walls and floors, mining/digging the ones you want may unlock them, though they can come from other sources too (vendors, dreams, wheel shrines, treasure chests etc). Recommend the Easy/Deep/Master Sleeper feats for more recipes in general, and they help with stamina too.

>>579156751
You can do both. Disable automatic hotkey mapping, favorite everything you want to keep, and manually assign the favorite hotkeys to things you care to.
I get that it's a matter of preference though. I just can't imagine choosing to get autistic with pocket management instead of factorio.

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fiddling with the airship thing now. took it for a ride all around and its really fucking great. the CRIT airship balloons specifically act like slightly worse solar panels.

>EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
what in the grok is happening to BN lately

>>579160451
still? I haven't had that yet on my save. on a nightly build from two days ago now.

>>579160451
I was having this with both dda and tlg, I googled it and some reddit thread came up that said it was caused by the launcher I was using the daboob one or whatever it's called, the one with the bear logo. I switched to a different launcher and haven't had the problem since.

>>579162649
I'm not using a launcher so it's not that.
Well, it's only happened to me twice in the last couple weeks so it's no big deal. I used to get mod conflict crashes more than this

>>579160451
I've been getting a ton of those, its fucking aids and has no explanation cause tardcode

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really wish you could preview what tiles look like before you install them

>>579165664
can't you change the tile used for a part with P in the vehicle menu? that's a thing in dda at least.

>>579165812
my god I never knew. it works in bn yeah

Are wandering hordes good yet? Its been a decade...

>>579110654
i mean wooden or stone/brick ones
i know there's no difference in strength or whatever, but i want to have aesthetic houses
>>579157501
>Is there anything in particular you want to do or get?
just get stronger in general for now, and maybe get a feeling on how to unlock stuff. anyway i crafted a cane and am just blasting stuff for now
>What race and class did you pick?
human wizard
>>better floors/walls
okay thanks anon, i'll keep that in mind

Best place to settle down with my followers in CDDA? I have a mighty need for a castle to guard against the undead hordes and shelter my knights of the realm, but I also think it might be neat to live in a cave or something underground. Is the camp system actually worthwhile yet in DDA or TLG?

>>579171223
the best fortified location imo is a prison, it has a surrounding concrete wall with multiple brick buildings inside, and a good amount of outdoor area for farming inside the walls. it also has an underground room and underground maintenance halls.

>>579171413
I want to like prison bases, but desu every time I get into one I end up consolidating everything into the wardens office or whatever that big entry room is supposed to be. I know that's my fault for doing it that way, but prisons have still become kind of stale.

>>579171223
Does DDA have base invasions now?

>>579170953
Oh you gotta make a walling and flooring workstations for those

>>579173304
I know that after fucking up a bunch of bandits through the Old Guard quest chain on DDA, the bandits sent some assassins to take me out me at my camp. Happened at least a year ago, so I imagine the assassins are still a thing

Do I sign up for a certification course and try to advance my career tonight or get some CDDA time in before bed?

>>579175051
You already know on your death bed which decision you'll have regretted. You'll regret not playing TLG instead

>>579173304
Not technically a base invasion, but scenarios that have a pursuer can result in something big and scary doing the classic kool-aid man through a wall gag

>>579172668
If you want underground the best probably is a cleared out lab.

>>579175608
Labs are way too fucking big especially nowadays, even cleared its just too much area to clean up

>>579175608
>>579175787
It's a shame that there aren't more "lab access shafts" that link up with a subway tunnel like the one near the HUB. That shaft is way to close to the HUB for my comfort and would probably lag like hell, but being able to set up shop alongside a subway line would be pretty neato.

>>579175989
there are more of those, I have seen multiple of them in the same world.

>>579176038
No shit? I only ever find the ones that lead to those big ass labs with the large cross hallway and elevators

>>579176147
I haven't actually explored many of the ones I have seen, so I don't know if they all go to those huge physics labs. I feel like I have seen one that did not but it was a while ago now so I'm not certain.

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new rw patch, they ruined my magic missile, but...perhaps...assassinate build...?

>>579175989
Wtf is a lab access shaft? You mean the railway tunnels?

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>give NPCs bandages so they can bandage themselves while we're clearing hordes
>the instant I take damage they break formation and rush over to heal me, eating several hits before I notice and stop holding tab
>have to awkwardly reposition them while the swarm is still charging us
>no option to keep them from doing this afaik
Don't give your NPCs extra bandages, I guess.

>>579177626
idk if they're in BN, but the shafts are little fenced off 3x3 vent shafts with ladders underground, usually leading down to labs or subway tunnels.

>"realism focus"
>can read newspapers that are sitting on the ground 60 tiles away
uhh

>>579176147
NTA but there are shafts that lead to smaller lab variants, like 5x5 or 6x6 overmap tiles, only one actual level and without a central hallway with the carpets. I think those smaller ones have more ladders going down than the giant variants. I think the giant ones are 2 or 3 ladders down from surface level, while the smaller ones are 4 or 5. I don't think you're guaranteed subway access from small ones though, maybe it depends on if there's a subway going near them or not. Also not all access shafts lead to a lab at all, I've encountered many shafts that lead to an isolated single subway tile going nowhere.

One issue with a deeper lab having subway access is that the lower subway has much meaner monsters. Like you routinely encounter high tier mi-gos in significant numbers.

Another option for having a lab base with subway access is just finding a subway lab that has no surface access, and digging down into it. May sound daunting, but I think you just need a jackhammer and 4? heavy wooden beams you can loot from an empty lumbermill, along with some nails and I think short ropes and shit. You'd only need to dig 2 zlevels down, and you can just get an npc to do the work while you read or craft in your car. I think that's also the only way you can have an autodoc within your reality bubble for npc use on top of a full sized basecamp that requires 9 field tiles.

You probably know this, but when hunting for labs, you should inspect every scientist zombie wallet for handwritten notes. They place nearby lab shafts and subway lab access tiles on your map, and they're not even limited to the area you found them in as long as they're still unused.

>>579184087
>I think that's also the only way you can have an autodoc within your reality bubble for npc use on top of a full sized basecamp that requires 9 field tiles.
You can't move autodocs in DDA?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UbbtCnuyI9w

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what's the play here

>>579186047
You can grab and move the autodoc bed, but not the computer. Deconstructing either just gives you spare parts. You can't just build your own out of parts either. So if you want one, either you find one in a lab or the rare doctor's office with one if that variant is still in the game. Maybe hospitals can also have one.

Though honestly, I think you might only want one for npcs. I had a character with 8 health care (basically the only realistic level you can grind to without bandaging yourself thousands of times) and a friendly nursebot, and I still couldn't match the success rates of paying Rubik for bionic installation. Some bionics are pretty rare and might take even 20-30 labs to find, so having even a 10% failure rate means you might very well lose it trying to install it, and you'd have to find another one. The only issue there is that even at max faction rep with exodii, Rubik still won't install the highest tier of bionics, so you might want to pay the hub merc bar soldier to install those instead. Not sure about his success rates compared to exodii though. I'm a dirty savescummer so I don't bother, pay exodii for all the surgeries I can and just alt+f4 and reroll if the autodoc fails to install the high tier ones.

>>579187152
No hope, right?
Do not engage that shitter as it can easily ohko you if you allow it to start shooting. If you have any grenades, run back a tile so it can't see you and peek-throw the grenade. Otherwise I'd just come back with a grenade later.

But if you manage to kill it, enjoy your 200 HEDP grenades (like 60$ worth of barter credit for one) and (I think) a shitton of rifle ammo.

>>579187152
Also if you decide to come back later, bring an acytelene torch with enough fuel for like 6-7 doors, or some other way of bypassing locked metal doors. That LIXA place is pretty small, and you can break into the loot room with some good stuff using a torch without having to fight the intended boss of the location.

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Surprisingly effective.
Plague is quite nice.

>cruising through the hitchhiker's guide
>see a bunch of cool 40x46mm ammo
>might make launchers useful outside of just blowing shit up by turning them into super shotguns
>can craft the different ammo types
>but can't craft the casings
>casings can only be obtained by deconstructing the ammo
>the ammo only can drop from a few enemies
>super low drop chance
Literally why even bother coding unobtainium? Even if you manage to get one shell, there is no way anyone is going to have any kind of meaningful supply.

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my wife, Yseros!

>>579197938
Pretty sure actually shooting those leaves the casing behind, so if you want to craft, you can recycle. Dunno if you can attach brass catchers to launchers but if you can, they could save you the trouble of picking them up manually. You can get like 10-15 casings from police blockades that have those turrets that shoot 40x46 sponge rounds. Police stations and such may also have sponge and tear gas types in equipment lockers. The more major military places (military base, aircraft carrier) should have a very good amount of HEDP. Barracks storage in old labs sometimes has piles of 10 HEDP. Random soldier zombies sometimes have a few on them too, and since military places have a metric ton of soldier zombies you can get a good amount there as well.

Personally, I'd still prefer normal grenades to GL ones simply because you can peek throw hand grenades from around a corner, drastically lowering the chance of getting hit by shrapnel and not giving things like turrets a chance to shoot back. If you do use a GL, you need some good distance and ideally shoot prone to minimize it further.

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jewjitsu dojo

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where can I get carbon filament to repair shit

>>579202384
Labs, or one particular variant of craft shop.
To make your own, you need an advanced 3D printer, which you can also find in a lab. Especially the small subway labs, they're common in those.

>>579199946
I don't think launchers eject casings to begin with. They should be dumped into your inventory when you reload, just like revolvers and single-shot guns.

>>579199946
That's all fine and dandy if you're after normal launcher ammo, but the different .22lr and .410 using shells require specific casings that are different from the sponge, HEDP, and tear gas casings. Normal 40x46 ammo isn't unobtainium, the fancy weird shit like the beehive or hornet's nest rounds are what's unobtainium. Yes you can recycle the casings you have, but if you only ever find one hornet's nest round you only ever have one shot before needing to go back to your workshop.

Just how much of a pain in the ass would it be to only use flintlock and cap and ball black powder firearms in CDDA?

>>579151441
Have to doble check but isn't the statue the one that damages you on kill?

>>579198873
First time I see anyone post about siralim. I should replay it

>>579203498
I've only used the underbarrel GL attachment on a rifle and that one dropped casings on the floor for me. I think. Or maybe I reloaded on the spot which dropped the old one. I just remember having to pick them up.

>>579205198
Oh sorry, I didn't realize they had special casings and assumed they used the standard ones. I don't think I've even seen those particular launcher grenades, though I tend to gloss over weird ammo I don't intend to use. Yeah, that is pretty weird that you basically can't get them without dumb luck.
Maybe the hub merc bar weapon guy can sell them, he carries some rare stuff. But last I checked his stock was mostly flamethrowers, laser rifles and pistols, and those caseless pistols and rifles with ammo for them. The caseless guns don't seem to be worth using at all, as they're only marginally better than standard guns, but finding ammo for them yourself is rare, and buying it from the weapon guy is crazy expensive.

>>579151441
is your furnace upgraded with flames of sorcery?

>>579151441
You are chain lightning yourself

>>579205494
Massive pain in the ass. Muzzleloaders take so long to reload you only really get one shot, and they aren't strong enough to one-shot most zombies. Civil war revolvers also take fairly long to reload, and you need to find the revolver first.

>>579209084
Not the guy who originally asked, but I wonder if it would be workable with a significant npc firing squad?

Are npcs smart enough to reload black powder stuff? And are they smart enough to swap to an actually loaded pistol instead of reloading the one they're holding? If they can do both, maybe you can give them a musket each, 2 more muskets worn as clothing via strap, 12 flintlock pistols in 2 baldric holsters, and 2 more flintlock pistols in 2 large holsters (normal holsters should be too small to hold those). The musket should take off like 2/3 of a standard's zombie health, and each pistol should take off like half. That's around 9 normal zombies per npc before they need to reload, so if you have enough guys you can probably take on small waves at a time with such a squad.

You can probably stuff more flintlock pistols in by making more large holsters and attaching them to molle belts, load bearing vests, ballistic vests and such and wearing those too. I think you're limited to 1 ballistic vest, but load bearing vests and molle belts should be ok to have 2 of. Maybe you can even mix different kinds of load bearing vests, as there are light, normal and heavy variants.

Although I guess you can just stuff as many as you can in the biggest backpack you have and just use that instead. But backpacks tend to have slow drawing times.

>>579206787
nope that's the one that gives lightning/fire attacks and immunity to allies

>>579207641
twas not

>>579207941
as far as I can tell this is not a thing

anyway I don't know what caused this it seemed to happen on some levels but not others. still won though chain lightning OP even if it somehow chunks you for half your health sometimes

>>579211668
Chain lightning fireball without shaped blast?

>>579213739
did not have chain fireball yet

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I bumped a commercial blimp while trying to board it and it sent it floating off. interesting

Forcing circular distances into a square grid is retarded

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comfy

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I too tested a blimp after arguing about it with anons and I gotta say, this is actually quite comfy. It won't be really feasible to make this into a proper mobile base though which is what I want out of my vehicles since the lift capacity is so lacking, but for some people that like to travel light this does seem quite useful. I converted it into a hovering weapons platform to provide overwatch for my cabin where I keep my harem.

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Here she is as seen from above, providing cover for my cabin base. I actually quite like it.

>>579220503
damn looks sick, makes me want to start a base and just have my airship for going out and exploring. Do you have wandering hordes on?

>>579217673
>>579220503
Didn't know blimps were a thing in the game. Pretty cool.

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What does "Damage Shield" here refer to?
There doesn't seem to be a spell/talent/whatever with that name.

I can't believe how legit zombie high school mod is, it has so much random shit in it

>>579199946
40mm grenades are mostly useful as a vehicle mounted weapon. some of the military sites will have a big pile of 40mm and if you are lucky one of those 6 round milkor launchers, they are very good for clearing out large groups of zombies that would otherwise take hundreds of rounds out of an m249.

>>579221723
I do yes. But even if I didn't, I like to fortify my base for RP reasons. My guy is probably the last hope of humanity and if he and his 20 wives fall then it's game over for planet Earth. So why wouldn't he take some extra effort to place turrets for that extra safety?

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*ends your run*

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>>579217673
>It won't be really feasible to make this into a proper mobile base though which is what I want out of my vehicles since the lift capacity is so lacking
How many tons do you need?

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Bastion fort seems like a great place to set up a base if it weren't in the middle of a dense forest. first time seeing this poi.

>>579211114
I don't think NPCs switch weapons. What they hold is what they use

>>579236268
How do aircraft work? Its all new to me, there's weight limits? Do you need high driving skill?

>>579237593
>there's weight limits?
The maximum lift is the weight limit.
>Do you need high driving skill?
No.

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>>579236268
>How many tons do you need?
Around 15 seems to be appropriate.

>>579238960
How much of that is the weight of the heli?

>>579237593
In DDA, you need a special perk which you can only get by picking the helicopter pilot at character creation.
In BN, you can fly anything with zero training or experience.

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>>579237593
There are three types of aircraft. Blimps, which can float without power, but are kind of slow. Choppers, which can float with power. And planes, that can take off with speed. For choppers and blimps it's kind of straightforward, you can take off and land vertically without caring much of anything, but with planes you need a runway. The benefit of planes is that they can exceed their maximum lift, so you can really haul a lot of goods.

I personally like to combine the features of choppers and airplanes. I put in rotors (and later on repulsor fields) and cover the outer layer of the craft with wings. That lets me take off and land vertically if needed, and also save a lot of power when flying around by taking unnecessary motors offline. Pic related, I can cruise at 135km/h for literally hours with just one motor running. In fact I'd probably be able to get more range by installing a lower tier motor, but at this state of the game it doesn't really matter.

>>579239479
I'm not sure. I am carrying around a gaggle of women from mi-go camps, and there's a lot of weapons and clothing for them on board. And lots of food and water. I guess I could dump everything and check if you'd like.

>>579239562
>In DDA, you need a special perk which you can only get by picking the helicopter pilot at character creation.
Also 99.9% of all choppers you find are not airworthy. And to modify them you need a perk that cannot be obtained without debugging console. And if ANYTHING on them breaks they immediately and permanently turn un-airworthy.

>>579239864
If it's too much effort, don't worry about it.
Nice ride btw.

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are BN artifacts like old dda artifacts? I remember getting an incredibly busted sword in dda back in the day, it gave invisibility and clairvoyance and was a pretty good weapon on top of that

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>>579239864
And the benefit if doing it like this is that you can really haul ass if you need/want to.

>>579240058
>And if ANYTHING on them breaks they immediately and permanently turn un-airworthy.
Oh yeah, this is a bad one. There's a starting scenario that just gives you a free helicopter, so you can skip the whole RNG dance, but as soon as a wall-climbing zombie smashes a window, it's grounded forever.

>>579240202
I checked, with most of the stuff on board the mass is just under 10 tons.
>Nice ride btw.
Thanks. It's complete overkill, but my RP autism demands over-engineering everything with multiple layers of redundancy and this is the ultimate end result.

>>579240276
Pretty sure they are.
Shame that no branches have the overmap artifact sites anymore though.

>>579240284
That was actually the reason why I moved to Bright Nights, I gave myself the aeronautical engineering perk that let me modify an Apache I found on an aircaft carrier, and then after multiple IRL DAYS of collecting resources and tuning it to where I wanted it I flew it on top of a lab enterance, took stepladders down, smashed in a wall with a sledgehammer and by doing so apparently broke something on the chopper on the level above and turned it into a glorified brick.

I do like how DDA models in the rotors so that you can't just fly between buildings all willy-nilly, but everything breaking with a breeze and not being able to land on a field because hitting bushes immediately disintegrates the rotor blades.

I think something is broken when I read, might be something to do with the artifact I found bugging out my int.
>>579241114
sweet. is the only source mines then? I recall before it was just some kind of debris fields and mines that you could get them from but that was ages ago

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forgot pic. its kind of fucky

>>579242803
Mines and I think strange temples are still a thing.

>>579237780
>>579239562
>>579239864
Thanks for info, I haven't played much in long time

Do wamder spawns still glitch into buildings like refugee center and such instantly wiping them out?

Or did they fix that?

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>>579244127
I haven't seen many hordes spawning inside things, but sometimes hordes are HORDES. This place was an absolute fucking warzone with bandits+, even flying above was risky because sometimes they have laser weaponry.

>>579236571
I've always wanted to set up shop in one of those forts, but I swear they're coded to appear in the most inconvenient of places in the middle of nowhere.

>>579245149
Do i need a bandit mod for bn still? It hasn't been mainline yet? Id like some bandit enemies

>>579247003
Bandits are in base game, but they're just basic bitch bandits. Bandits+ introduces decked out marauders, BEAR mercs and the like, and they can have some really nasty weaponry on them.

>>579248147
Like you instantly die type bandits?

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I think I have a problem, the bitch collection is getting too large for the comfy cabin base.

>>579250102
If you get particularly unlucky then yeah. I've taken a burst of laser fire straight to the torso as I was flying over a city on a flying bicycle and died instantly.

>>579250338
That sounds awful lmao

>>579251676
Yeah, I couldn't even imagine what living with dozens of bitches would be like.

>>579250338
maaan I want to do a long playthrough now. where's bandits+ from? don't see it on the repository site

chuddie in the club doing aegis reflector

>>579256351
Does it show up as Add Bandits Extended+?

>>579250338
not that other anon but share your modlist and any custom world settings you might have. I wanna shake up my next playthrough

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>>579258383
This is what I have currently active. But don't use the monstergirl mutations, it apparently disables almost all the vanilla mutagens.

>>579258778
And world settings are all default except for spawn rate scaling which I bumped up to 15 (default 1)

>>579258347
not on the main repo, did some searching on the discord and saw someone mention it was part of kenan's modpack. i'll look into it. shame about the monstergirl mutations, was using it on this world.

Anyone have experience with Nechronica? looks cool

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>>579258778
Correction to the above, I was looking at the wrong map data, these are the correct world options.

>>579259029
>except for spawn rate scaling
No other rates were touched, just monster spawn?

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>>579259143
>>not on the main repo, did some searching on the discord and saw someone mention it was part of kenan's modpack
That sounds correct, there's a button on the launcher that I probably clicked at some point.

>>579259280
Disregard that post, I was looking at the wrong map data.

Good night, /rlg/

>walk 5 ft
>EXCEPTION ACCESS VIOLATION
>restart
>walk 3ft
>EXCEPTION ACCESS VIOLATION
>restart
>walk other way
>EXCEPTION ACCESS VIOLATION

how in the fuck do I even identify what is causing this shit, its fucking awful

>>579258347
Did some looking, it's in the currently maintained kenan's modpack. https://github.com/Zlorthishen/BrightNights-Structured-Kenan-Modpack
It's specifically the mod folder labelled M_Agents_Expanded. Kind of annoying the mod folder is labelled something different from the actual mod, I missed it for a while because of that.

>>579260270
Better frequently mash that quicksave button, buddy. I have no idea what's causing it. Probably some vibecoded malware that's not working right.

>>579260412
I've pretty much only ever used the launcher and mods included inside of it, so I have no idea what mods even exist outside of it. Except for the hentai mod that I had installed for a while, but it was kind of dull and broken.

>>579260270
mods? I had my first one after like 20 hours playing on this save

>>579260737
You might be interested in the Blood Moon mod. https://mods.cataclysmbn.org/mods/blood_moon/
It's customizable in the "escape - actions - misc - blood moon" menu. I've been playing with it lately and it's made working on my base and getting NPCs to help craft/build/fight(until I get turrets lol) so much more meaningful. Being on the clock also means I can't piss away the first several weeks grinding skills because the horde is coming. Course you could cheese it by leaving your base but where's the fun in that

>>579260764
Aftershock, cata++
>>579260681
You been getting it too? Its fine during lab start till I leave the lab and go anywhere

>>579261592
Rarely. At least with mod conflict errors I know wtf is happening, but this access violation happens out of the blue and there's no connections between when it happens.

>>579261173
That does sound interesting, I'll look into it when I start my next game. Does it do well with high Z-levels? I usually go with the surrounded start and choose an apartment building for less RNG early game.

>>579261738
Its fucking aids, I get UNKNOWN EXCEPTION too and the logs are useless as shit

Playing the apotheosis mod for noita this weekend.
What a heap of shit these nerfs to pierce effects are. I'm at the point that's usually annoying and busy work with breaking perk rerolls but they made it even more annoying by making the worlds much wider.

>>579261897
>Does it do well with high Z-levels?
I'm not sure, so far I've only set up base in evac centers which only have 1 extra level up and down. The mod basically compels the horde to approach your exact location so as long as they're in render and can path/smash their way to you it should work? They'll probably shred the first floor of your building though.

Its retarded runtime errors about wool allergy trait my guy doesn't even have, wtf aislop code is this

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>>579260737
Oh right, can't believe I forgot to mention this part: you can also change what type of enemies are used for the hordes. Meaning you could totally fuck your base up by sending in bandits instead.
I haven't fucked with this though so no idea how well it works.

>>579241114
That is a shame. They were kinda funky and buggy, but they were super fun anyway.
I think they were one of the first things the DDA team axed for being unrealistic, way before BN forked away.

>>579263690
The reason why I like the surrounded start is because the high rise apartment buildings are extremely sturdy. Basically only hulks are able to smash the reinforced concrete walls apart and bring the building down, so it's an extremely safe location for the early game. Plus, there's a fuckton of books, food and water in the individual apartments. And you get vision on your immediate surroundings since you start on Z-level 8.

Maybe I'll try some extra challenging innawoods start with that mod, it could be interesting.

>>579266248
I see, that's definitely something I'll be picking up for a masochist run. Thanks.

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fucking hell guess I'll hold off on the lab starts with the dino mod lmao

>>579275782
You can outrun them, I believe in you!

>>579275782
Lmao. Maybe I should give the dino mod a shot after I finish reading Jurassic Park.

>>579275782
>>579276318
Isn't dinomod hard as hell , they look fucking scary

Would the LeMat be useful as a pocket "oh shit" gun if I don't want to use any modern weaponry? I'm thinking that 20g shotgun barrel would help it punch a little above what the .44 cap and ball can do in an emergency. I know it's been taken out of current DDA, but it's still in TLG.

>>579277480
It's fine as long as you always keep a strong gun ready to kill raptors. Preferably in a fast holster so you don't get shredded after opening the wrong door or turning the wrong corner. The rest of the dinos are slow enough to outmaneuver in most cases.

>>579244127
I'm pretty sure they do, though I haven't been playing with wander spawns (for that exact reason)

>>579278595
Itd be so cool if they just couldn't phase ino buildings :(

>>579279548
I've had that happen before but I've never had them phase into vehicles.
I wonder if you could make a pseudo building with vehicle construction and be safe?

>>579280641
Can they traverse z levels? Can I just live upstairs amd be ok?

>>579280736
Zombies or vehicles?
I don't know if they still can but zombies used to be able to traverse Z levels. I had a skeleton juggernaut end a run because he phased into a basement.
You can't have multiple Z levels on vehicles, at least on BN, dunno about Dick Divesting Ahead

>be playing dda
>randomly die while driving
apparently you take sun damage, it's summer

>>579260270
Are you in an area with a lot of zombies? It was doing that for me while chilling in a building in a city, and stopped doing it once I got rid of the horde. I think it's to do with sound processing.

>>579281282
What?

>>579283959
Kevin doesn't leave the house and has become cave-adapted, so he thinks it's normal to burn away in the summer sunlight.

HATE

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