WesKING Edition >What is Dead By Daylight?Dead By Daylight is an asymmetrical multiplayer (1v4) horror-styled game where one player takes on the role of the Killer and four players take on the role of Survivors. The Survivors' objective is to repair generators in order to power and open exit gates to escape. The Killer's objective is to kill the Survivors.• NEWS>Prototype chat wheel shown off and discussedhttps://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/471169/developer-update-player-intent-system>Year 11 Roadmaphttps://x.com/DeadbyDaylight/status/2066343726646014433>New Summer Screams Event Patchhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/381210/view/713407148452742831• RESOURCES & INFORMATION>Official website:https://www.deadbydaylight.com>Official Stat Tracker Websitehttps://stats.deadbydaylight.com/.>Patch Notes:https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/patchnotes>Wiki:https://deadbydaylight.wiki.gg/• Codeshttps://nightlight.gg/codesPrevious thread:>>578413170
first for feng!
Anti-cheat trials is probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen in any video game ever.Why the fuck would you continue to outsource your anti-cheat regardless? It's not like generic anti-cheat is going to work.
meg showed you her true nature
sweaty meg...
I've been seeing gameplay clips of the angle and I can't get over how fucking retarded the little skitter noise of it walking is. why the fuck did this community go with crab legs for the fucking winged angel design? why is that the only part of the original concepts that got kept with no changes?
Filling dwight with my sin (cum)
>>578994387I think the devs were dead set on a uniquely moving killer since we've had a long stream of walking/floating killers, it's very weird how they focus on such innocuous design elements.
>>578996670Weird face
>>579001451You'd make a weird face while I'm bulging and pulsating inside (You) too
I want to bulge and pulsate inside meg
>>578993652do people really pay money for cheat programs for dbd To what end, I don't get it
>>579003921TTV troons love to subtle cheat and tiktokers love to clipfarm and post the chat in their clips. both tend to make a little more from the views than they pay monthly.theyre too dogshit to make money legitimately so they gotta cheat to look good
>>579003921Because they're golems with no soul, empathy or humanity.The same reason every game has cheaters.
I didn't expect my kill rates to be so high.
>>579006428>make money legitimatelyLmao >>579007687Fairness is unfair, because they're worse at the game! You wouldn't get it
>want to play trapper>3 or 4 man SWFs with their graphics reduced to the absolute minimum and gamma incredibly high so traps are visible anywhere>want to play doctor after>braindead troglodytes that give up the second they cant drop a pallet and get 4Kdfucking kill me man
>>579008775At least they work kek https://youtu.be/oNUJsLprHcM?si=uwuLOonFPvk4hadLHuntress is just not working atm
>>579008996they work on trapper thats for fucking sure. i try to slip through the same gap the survivors do and ill catch my trap every single time
>>579014002He wouldn’t do that
>>579014002He would do that
>>579015021She would do that
>>579015021nonsensical L4D mods are soul
>>579014945
>>579007965anon... 60% is the baseline....
Found this one on xitter, fan art of dwight stuck in a glue trap
>>579018780Makes sense, I just fuck around and give hatch most games, my Chucky is like 70% winrate though
Killers you hope get an addon pass like Pyramid Head got?For me it’s Demogorgan and Chucky.
>>57901878047% is the baseline 60%+ means you're winning(3k) most of your games.
rate my top 7 bros
>>579021923>one below 60%you lost
>>579022049>legiondoesnt count...
>>579021923>75%you won
>>579021923All of them except nuMyers and Huntress are based
>>579022263those myers stats are old myers, Ive only played him once since the lobotomy
>>579021923My kill rate isn't as good, well done.
>>579022321Given the amount of hours I didn’t assume that, I’m sorry for your loss he’s so fucking boring now.
>>579021593BHVR's stated target neutral-killrate metric is 60%due to the way dbd works, killing 1-2 survivors means you will likely kill all 4 (or 3 + hatch)or that in losing games, you're still nearly guaranteed 1 killalso nightlight stats are completely raped
BIG FAT SUSIE BOOBIES!!!
one week until HALLOWEENchads rule this thread
>>579026901Sir this is /dbdg/ not /halloweeng/
>>579026901Halloween isn't until October
>>579027615lmao
>>579027615this nigga doesnt know
These mmr reset matches are giving me vibes from my first time playing and I was like "Legions always run Iron Maiden"
My Queen...
>>579027615Curbstomped that annoying faggot
>nobody playing the shitty Crab Angel kill alreadythe community experiment has failed
>>579032013i dont got 9000 shards to spend
>>579032013I just got 3 crab niggas in a row
>>579032460I didn't
>start getting kills>suddenly survivors wanna be friendlyyeah okay
Realistically, how much of a game changer would it be if they added 10 seconds to gen repair time?
>>579033962drives me up the fucking walli dont want a free game, and i dont want to just stop playing.this happens on almost EVERY SINGLE GAME of ghostface i play
>>579034037I've started to ignore it. Dunno how this kumbaya shit is fun for them either.
>>579034019would rather they just add some early-game-collapse objective of needing to grab and place spark plugs in generators before being able to repair them or some shit like that, rather than exacerbate the length of the worst part of the game for survivors in the most boring 2d way possible
They should make the crouch spam punishment thing Judgment has just a regular part of the game
>>579035823xd baby killer
Both Vecnas are so fun
I wish RE9 Jill was real so there was a chance I could get it as a skin in DBD
>wait 5 minutes for a match>4k5 within 2 minutesamazingto be fair someone dc'd on their first down after i wasn't getting a "kick pallet" prompteither they lagged out or thought me shaking my mouse/wacking it was BM of some sort
Big news, data miners have found files that imply a new game mode that's only called "detective" as of now. All we know is that Dwight has been murdered, and it's a race to uncover clues and evidence that will allow you to accuse one of the killers of murdering Dwight. However accusing the wrong killer will have "deadly consequence" That's all we know so far unfortunately, but it sounds like a completely new game mode which is exciting.
>pick up dredge finally>first match, figuring out power>hook someone in basement>see noise notification nearby from a vault>teleport over to locker>nightfall with 3 survivors in shack, 2 in basement
it's so funny reading all these "judgement is high B-tier at best" posts on ledditfeeling like the crab is borderline S-tier. pyramidhead-tier tunnel game that's plague-infection-tier easy to achieve with a power that is functionally similar to nurse's entire existencethere's a certain range where hitting survivors can be tricky but it also doesn't feel like it's that hard to solve. you get a feel for how to place the light that makes it maximally hard to dodge and is ready as soon as possibleand then obviously if you're zealous literally any unobstructed shot past a certain range is nearly free. you just guide it to them and flick at the end
>>579045690If you get a hallway map like Lerrys or Hawkins Judgey becomes one of the strongest killers by default.
>>579045889mixed feelings, the situations i find the hardest to land shots are when you have to predict what option they're going to take when they round a corner and indoor maps are chock full of thembut also at the same time these maps are tight and claustrophobic and very easy to create lose-lose situations somidwich in particular is nasty. small, long hallways, shitty tight loops with little wiggle room, and you can threaten both floors from the lower one
>>579034019How long do you retards want the killer queues to be?
im in fucking HEAL UNDER HOOK IN 3 SECONDS MMR and i fucking hate it. medkits, medkit addons, live forever, resurgence, we'll make it, lend a hand, multiple Botany's holy FUCK
>>579045690Judgement has the problem of being S-tier on some maps and B-tier on others.She's just a powercrept artist really because she ignores elevation. Also another killer that can just hold a 3-gen and drag out a lost game forever if they want.
did someone say judgement on midwich
>>579048801Start bringing perks like gift of pain and the hex that makes them obliviousPeople just copy Otz's builds and he keeps shilling resurgence.
>mmr reset>easy killer games >survivor games are retard hell
im definitely dogshit at this killer but im having a grand fucking time playing him. just need to get good at the remnants and locker predictionshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNpfWTRhsNE
>>579052835Ive been knocking out adepts on both sides pretty easily
>>579053227>get put against newbies and stomp themim so sorry little ones>Adam disconnects like a bitch when i mori him for giving me an offering while 1 person is on hook, 1 other still active
>>579054397>p100>3 perksbut why
>>579040790RE10 bro trust
>gone from 4man healsquad to 4man toolkit genrush squad, 3 hyperfocus, prove thyself, dejavu>one survivor with endurance and stun perksand just like that, im not playing blight so this match was already slated to be an instant loss.if they dont make a SWF queue they should give me 100% more bloodpoints per person in the SWF so i have a reason to not just quit and go next
>>579060452we should trade player populations. i want sweaty opponents because i want to be better and these fuckin' NA west NOOBS aren't challenging in the slightest. even the ones that are good are still kinda shitwhat region are you in
>>579060908NAthis time of day (3-6AM east coast) has some of the sweatiest motherfuckers on the planet.i got three of them on death hook but doctor aint securing those kills
>>579061393fuck man if i didn't love the PNW so much i'd move coasts just for the better poplook at these ragtag fuckin stoners. 3 flashlights? easiest game of my life and it hasn't even started
>>579061554id rather punch my balls nonstop for ten minutes than face 4man heal/repair squad. ill take flashlights any day any time. walking at people just because i can hear their footsteps short circuits them almost every time
>>579061689yeah honestly flashlights are a spook. it is a core belief of mine that flashlights are a killer itemand flashlights during judgement week doubly so. they can't interrupt your exile with it yet they unsubtly lurk nearby anyways. it's awesomei also maintain lightborn is a near-useless crutch but it IS a pretty funny perk. it might be my favorite singleton perk to run when i want to do some "perkless" gaming
>several times now we recover from a facecamp, flawlessly bodyblock, right at the gate, easy 4out, gg glng, badabing badaboom>someone suffers death by muscle memoryOkay, I admit it.This new killer is fucking funny
>>579062418its fucking timeless, people continue to rush at you not sure if theyre blinding you or not as you scoop someone up, only to get their heads punched offalso my brain has been fried by zoomer humor so shit like this has me cacklinghttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/r1-IZqLVvVY
the juuj meem
>>579063865Huh
>>579068642haahwaaw
>game begins, tab in>four fengs>lethal shows no one>okay they must be on comms to ALL be using distortion>game goes on>cannot find a trace of anyone>there is no sign that anyone else exists in the game>except that each gen on the map eventually has tiny amounts of progress, either to prevent crows or stop me from getting abandon option>I eventually get the option to abandon anyway >don't >I'm going to find these fuckers>they never disturb crows, they leave no scratch marks>checking every locker, every bush>launching rays randomly to perhaps get KI>eventually see some pale face staring at me in the distance before hiding instantly like a creepy pasta>beeline there>gone>don't see anyone again for what feels like hours but must have been about 20 minutes >eventually do abandon>they're all identical mime costume fengs>distortion, calm spirit, lucky break, bite the bullet, beefy medkits>say 'lol that was funny'>they leave without a word
Sissy gotta be the realest TCM character. She never sugarcoats anything and always reads me like an open bookhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjIyxq7UIgs
>>579073967jesus lmaomakes me think of that one game that "didn't" have a killer, but had an extra dwight who was... offfuck and i can't find it to link it
oh shit wait i found ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdprOm1LkDk
>>579077095this is so good the feng was actually fucking creepy she did it so well, and I will also now assume all ace players are cute british women
>>579079396what is this a tier list ofa lot of those maps high up are hot garbage so that gets rid of a good maps tier list
>>579074869I too am glad TCM got trans representation.
Starring Francesca Capaldi as Susie Lavoie
>>579079543maps I like, that's it.
>>579082828you have bad taste
>>579074869Sissy can read????
>>579050764>She's just a powercrept artist really because she ignores elevation.Not quite. She can't hit people below her even though the pillar seems to bug out and go underneath, so you still have to go to the dungeon and stuff like that. It's more annoying than a real drawback, just like the reticle getting lost in similar situations is also really annoying.
have you DESTROYED any entitled survivor mains lately?
>>579093690No I'm a nice killer I run around and get caught on stuff in chase on purpose to make them feel like theyre outplaying me
>>579093690yes I play basement Trapper
>>579093690i want to follow sable's rules...
>>579073967if you abandon as killer does it count as a loss
>>579095253yes
When do the magical girl skins come out?
>>579093690I'm not good enough at killer. I'm either getting consistent 4k matches or I get put with the most unwinnable unfun matches possible which then leads me to not playing the game for months. There is no in-between.
I heard you can't teabag the new killer, so I played survivor and did it at the exit gate And it blocked, and I died. My only regret is that the killer was on console and could not share the keks post game with me
>>579096621I experienced a similar thing except I didn't tbag but just gave the guy a hit with power for bp cuz he lost and then i got moried at the blocked gate so that was an experience
>>579098027Pretty funny Imagine if teabagging manifested a bear trap into your fucking legs lmao
meg fell for your trap
why would you play pyramid head over judgement unless you like himim not saying they're the exact same thing or don't excel at different things but pyramid doesn't have enough over judgement to ever be considered if you want to win
>>579079396Badham should be in the bottom tier.
>them: good killer. gg >me: thank you>me: good survivor too >me: and good game>them: ^^>me: :)
>>579101952me on the left
>>579102909same reason you would play sadako, alien, freddy, dredge, or springtrap over jason
>>579106482I don't believe it
>>579103590it's fun to play on(as a surv).
how would dbd change if survivors could vote to surrenderthat way you aren’t trapped in an unwinnable match and the killer isn’t forced to cleanup the bots
meg enjoyed your game
>>579108949Source
>>579098171Knowing Behavior, it's more likely to catch Trapper's foot than the offending survivor's
I like Judgement as a whole, but I think being able to hit 3 survivors at once because you randomly threw a pillar at them is not fun after the first few times and that's without bringing up how bad things get the moment she slaps any decent aura-reading perks into her kitAt the same time, actually dealing with survivors close to you ranges from genuinely engaging to absolutely miserable (which is also completely mitigated by throwing pillars at people far away from you)There's probably a good solution to all of her problems, but they WILL fumble it and do something retarded like force her to hit people 3 times or preventing pillars from downing non-heretic survivors without doing anything to compensate for her current weaknesses
>>579116210Getting teabagged causes the trapper to escape into the hatch from embarrassment
>>579084154That map just sucks in general and you just never go to the dungeon and camp the above ground gens the whole game.But yeah I get what you mean but it's not an issue on most maps because you can just position it on the floor below you most of the time like in midwich.
>>579117051Imagine Trapper loudly sniffling at the sight of teabagging survivors, wiping his face in a futile attempt to hide his tears before running off to a nearby hatch, hopping into it like a fucking rabbit...or at least trying to do so, but then a survivor closes the hatch in front of his face and blinds him for good measure
>>579117314Why are they so fucking mean he doesn't even want to be here
>>579117478Clearly, the Entity just dragged the worst kind of high school/office cliques to bully mentally unstable killers
>>579118378>Cops and alt/goth sluts Trvke
I dont think I'll ever return after that "we balance around looking at twitch chat" commentI cannot in good conscious devote any time or energy to such fucking nonsenseI hope the devs are happy losing a 8-year old player. Fuck them.
>>579118905>I hope the devs are happy losing a 8-year old playerThey unironically are. You bought the chapters and skins already, they want new blood. They hate you
>4 minute killer queso survivor sissies don't want to play now that judgement is out?
>>579120252For once, it's more about MMR reset raping and leaving newbies traumatized than the regular kind of survivor fitsImagine playing the game for like 5 hours, facing killers that have no idea what they are doing (like a Nurse that can't teleport to save her life and keeps 90% of the match stuck in a wall with her ass exposed to survivors passing by), then you get into a match where a killer with 70K hours obliterates your whole baby team with laser beams from miles away within 2 minutes instead of a baby Judgement that keeps trying to throw out pillars directly in front of them like they are supposed to.Genuinely a retarded idea to pair that reset with the release of one of the most technical and unconventional killers yet.
>>579120926>a Nurse that can't teleport to save her life and keeps 90% of the match stuck in a wall with her ass exposed to survivors passing by
>the Artists perksill never play her but jesus christ all three of these are amazing. really dont want to spend my shards but pain resonance solves 90% of my problems with gen control
>>579121135just pay the tax
>>579117041If you are good with judgement all you do in chase is force 50/50s.A global sound notification to pay attention for the next 2 seconds because a giant blinking pillar you can hear and see through walls for 32m (or is it 40m now?) might hit you, should be enough for you to do the complicated counterplay of...*looks at notes*...sidestep a couple meters.The killer constantly broadcasts his position.The pseudo hook is weak as fuck and swings right back into the killers face (multi saves), robs you of any proxy camp pressure you could have gotten from hooking (which is probably negative because of all the fucking hook perks).So you will just 3 gen and slug to win after the great reset is over.Not buying, not playing.
>>579121630>his position>His
lolLMAO5 gens to go, btw
>>579121630>A global sound notification to pay attention for the next 2 secondsI've heard some reports of this not consistently working actuallyThe pillar hit sound also often doesn't play for the actual killer past a certain distance
>>579121885Killer is a manly role for manly men, so you always use he.
>>579122016Validated, you pass
>>579121970Fucking fix that then instead of band aid nerfs.
>>579122016But playing a half-naked Sable and begging the big, strong killer with a thick throbbing Fire Up for mercy because 2 of your teammates are worthless retards and the last one hasn't shown up the whole game doesn't make you any less of a man?
>>579122185Imagine fixing thingsKnight still gets stuck on invisible walls
>>579122286What
It makes you less of a man if you make a female survivor as naked as possible, especially if the cosmetics don't even match and you only picked them for how much skin they show
>Latest killer to be released is the most OP and oppressive thing in DBD historyWish they'd stop this formula desu
Instead of severing fingers to pleasure himself with, the Clown should turn survivors into clown girls and then forcibly equip retarded builds on them
>>579125864That certainly wasn't the case with SpringtrapHe turned out okayNot great, not terribleJudgement isn't generically good like Jason anyway, she's just a noob killer
>It's another aura reading holy horseHoly shit I am uninstalling. What boring shit this game is.
>>579126203Oh, you don't like facing Judy?Well, fine, how about 20 metaslave Blights in a row? Surely that will make you feel better
>>579126365At least with Blight we normally fix 1 gen.
>>579126424he got filtered by having to use his eyes instead of listening for terror radius and heartbeats
>>579126424If you're having trouble with Judgement, you're clearly in solo qIf you're in solo q, you're just as likey to have 1-2 survivors instantly give up and sabotage your game, denying you even the frustration of actually playing against a retarded killer
>>579126606This is exactly what is happening to me. People just give up as soon as they see the horse.
>>579127416Not really the killer's fault at that point because people will give up even to shit like modern Skull Merchant
>>579014002>>579014945>>579015082>See I'm tough like you! >D-don't mess with me nigger, uh I mean nigga! I-im a real 'gangsta'! ...or however your kind says it... see I'm even holding the gun sideways!>Y-yeah stay back nigga, before I pop some bullets in your sorry behind! or s-something... similar. Step off!
>>579128060My based son dwight fairfield
>>579074869
>>579125864I think it's just BHVR are dogshit at balancing. See the nurse allowed to exist in the state she's in for a decade.
>>579128564Nurse can't be balanced without a complete rework changing her entirely (at which point she's not the Nurse) because she's both too simple and too effectiveShe's either stuck as an M1 killer or nothing really changes, these two extremes are your only optionsHigh mobility powers that aren't restricted to specific points on the map have always been a mistake, Wesker is just the least dogshit implementation of itBlight is a bigger crime in comparison because they should have known better at that point (Nurse in comparison was one of the first killers released) AND what the fuck does his power have to do with his lore? It's like if the Artist summoned bees to pester survivors instead of having anything to do with crows.
>>579030372>>579027521>>579026901When the game comes out, I plan on baking my own general bread if no one else does.I can't speak for other Anons, but as someone who's a big Halloween fan, and a slight illfonic fan. I'm going to try to keep some decorum and tact for this general compared to the shitshow that was TCMs release. Best case scenario, you all will only have to put up with 8 days of occasional rare hype posts and then we'll all have our own thread. I'm excited for Mike.
>>579131051Not sure why you'd bother with a new thread. If you haven't noticed, this one is very dead. I'll be there regardless but I don't see the point. I'm also hyped for the Halloween release. Enjoyed my time with both F13 and KK and this looks it could be their best game yet. Could fall apart immediately too though, I really can't tell what the flow of the game is going to be because it's so different compared to everything else. I'm particularly worried about there not being enough incentive for Michael and the survivors to interact with each other when there are a lot of bots and rounds are decided by points rather than player kills. Hopefully player kills are worth a lot.
>>579132015Oh, well last time /dbd/ became /asym/ there was a massive shitflinging and chimpout from almost everyone. (or maybe a few incredibly loud xittertrannies). Just a lot of unnecessary elitism, tribalism and flaming.Claiming that Dbd, vhs, that one prophunt one, or tcm was the only acceptable Asym horror game and everything else was guttertrash. Y'know, the usual useless bickering and flagplanting.
>>579132015Thread activity doesn't mean just talk about other shit in it. There's literally no reason for there to be separate Persona and Metaphor and SMT threads since the latter two are dead as shit, but there are because they're different games.
>>579132015>>579133152We can have an /assym/ thread and a /dbd/ thread.The problem is when people make an /assym/ thread it just dies because no one bumps or maintains it.You can always just go make a thread on /vm/ for whatever fotm game that'll die in a week if you want as well but you people feel the need to post your slop shit in here for whatever reason because you just have a massive hate boner for DBD.
>>579116087https://pawchive.pw/patreon/user/3464648/post/163183941
Based on the discussions in this thread its pretty clear that were going to end up reverting back to /assg/ considering everyones going to be playing the new halloween and saw game while also discussing their tcm matches. Only then will the based posters return and we can have sissychad and homelanderposter in the same thread, maybe Basil too if he’s not busy
>>579133152I remember talking about TSM and KK just fine here
>>579131051I'm not excited for the game at all because it's going to be more of the same.Much to my dismay.
>>579106482>me: wins as killer>them: L killer, kys >me: loses as killer>them: get shit on, L killer, kys >me: : (
>>579139268>survivors called him L killeryou lost
>>579139268Slug builds.There are no good boi survivors.They deserve the silent corner.Bypass all their stupid second chances and just let them bleed.
Kinda sad reading Aurora's lore and learning that her name isn't actually her name and more-so her title, and she chose to keep that in the fog instead of just being herself.
>>579136127That will happen when you’re finally ‘gone’ troonsil. Not a moment before. This is the condition. Get to it.
why did they remove mmr on the day of the killer release so all winrate data is unusable because nobody is playing at the correct rank
>>579141304to justify the nerf
>>579108949Leaguetroons are a blight
>>579141304you wouldn't understand their gigabrained long term strategies
this celestial nemesis build is real mickey mouse, looking forward to the judgement nerf now that thats been figured out
reminder that only one and a half winning votes out of seven were used for the grimoire killer's power
Opened the game for the first time since before Jason even came out.Holy fuck is the new killer ugly as hell. Not the good kind of ugly either.
>>579144212The design is schizophrenic, like BHVR couldn't decide what kind of divinity they wanted to convey.
>>579144212The auric cell skin should have been the default.
>>579145365it's because retards picked the spider legs
>>579142820but is the surrender option itself a bad fit for dbd? or should the game have more comeback potential so it isn’t neededlike when a survivor dies at 4 gens and there’s no way for your team to come backor when you get run for 3 gens and there’s no way for you to come backshould the team that will inevitably lose be allowed to surrender, or should the game be changed so it’s not an inevitable loss
is Hex: Ruin worth grabbing if im less of a perma-chaser and more of a gen patroller and running people off all the time? or is being able to nuke percentages off the generator all at once the better choice?
>>579145714Even without the spider legs, it still doesn't make sense. The character is covered in gory, veiny eldritch eyes - the wrong kind of eyes for an angel monster. The screaming faces on the legs are bloodied and lack the beauty of the main head and torso.
>>579145839If you can harass at a distance or have great mobility, Ruin is great. If you're just pushing them off for a second and then immediately leaving with no chase then Ruin does almost nothing. They hop back on the gen immediately and fix the damage in a few seconds.
>>579145994ive been playing Dredge and ol Pyri. There's been times I've locked down 4 or 5 gens at a time with Dredge just from the locker jumping, so it might be handy.Of course its also a hex and theres a chance it just spawns in front of the survivors
>>579145875I think someone said the lore is that it's just an ayylmao larping as a divine being
>>579146331That's fine, but the true form of the ayylmao being a typical pop culture Lovecraft thing is lame. That was an option and people voted for divinity instead.
>>579146534it really just looks like the gore/eyes are the creature itself and the white 'pretty' statue-like parts are just a shell it wears. i think they were trying to do 'biblically accurate angel', which is a misnomer since these are usually Thrones, Cherubim, and Seraphim as opposed to your typical angel. And even then there's some order to the design and not just the chaos they've given us.
>>579146759The writing was on the wall when they had us vote for what the Exile place would look like, and the two options were the Heavenly one we picked and the usual Purple Lovecraft that made it into the killer's design. That they even thought this should be an option shows where the priorities lay.
surely this and Coup de Grace don't stack and you dont get to lunge like 15 metersright?
>>579147330they do
>>579147740oh fuck
>>579146905they basically made a killer with ~20% input from the community
>>579147330>>579147740>>579147853Diminishing Returns raped stack builds.
Why do so many dbd players act like they're fucking miserable for playing this game
>>579146759From what I understand the whole “biblically accurate” thing isn’t even accurate
>>579147330This reads like a fat joke actually
I haven't played since the patch. As someone who was a cap mmr nurse will the game really put me at 0mmr and match me with beginners next time I install the game?
>>5791487712 things:Most players are survivors. Most players are also shit at the game and so the biggest threat to any survivor player is their own teammates rather than the killer. Get paired with retards that give up the moment you fail to unhook them within 1 seconds? They sabotage your game, rendering any effort to play it futile. Metaslave killer players are also a blight upon the game, so whenever you get those, the experience is nothing short of miserable though it's at least short most of the time.The rest of the fanbase consists of people playing killers. If you're not a meta killer, it's very easy to get absolutely destroyed by SWFs that effectively have permanent info perks you can't counter because they can just tell each other what you're doing 24/7. Aside from the usual metaslave survivors, you also have people whose sole goal is to ruin your experience instead of playing the game, which is arguably worse than it is on survivor side of things because the killer's only loss condition is people escaping.Some people will blame this on devs' utter incompetence or a bunch of things (those certainly contribute), but the truth is that the game's core problem lies in retarded faggots. Trapper still being able to step into his own traps is fucking stupid, yes, but that's not why that one Sable in your team decides to spend the whole game running into the killer's arms or why a group of 4 smurfs spends an hour bullying some fresh Wraith player. >>579149889It can do that, yes.
>>579149637well..
>>579150565>It can do that, yes.Man I can't imagine what it must feel like to go up against a cap mmr killer as a baby survivor. Good job behavior.
>>579151091i got like 3 hours on dredge and like 20 hours playtime total and i went against newbies and it had to of been MISERABLE for them. and also terrifying because of how dredge works. i cant imagine a fuckin Hydrogen Bomb of a killer being thrown back to newbie territory.>>579054397
I immediately stop playing and go afk if I'm the first person hooked.
>>579151510skill issue, youre supposed to lead the killer into the rest of the group.alternatively learn to loop
We See You is really underrated, especially since aura builds are popular right now thanks to everyone playing Judgement
>>579151091Okay, now remember that it's Judgement flavour week.It's one thing for baby survivors to run into Wesker, Huntress and Springtrap, but they also have a very high chance of running into a killer that bombards them with pillars of light that go through walls and can be thrown out frequently, way out of their sight. Even somewhat more experienced survivors can still lose within less than 2 minutes to her, what is a newborn Bill gonna do about an aura-reading Judgement?>>579151351At least early Dredge is a pretty cool experience, the kind of experience most killers don't really provide. I kinda wish I could have been a baby survivor losing my shit during nightfall with all the screaming in the background.
>>579151660yeah Dredge isnt total bullshit to play against but he's definitely a change from the usual M1ershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNpfWTRhsNElove this shit
>>579151660Well at least everyone is new with judgement because the killer is new. Now imagine billy survivor with 30 minutes into the game going up against 5k hours nurses
>>579151579That's neat, but we live in the real world in which everyone has to run multiple anti-tunnel perks.
What's the best killer/build for just wounding survivors and fucking off to patrol other gens? Someone that slows the game down to a grind and makes survivors want to dc even though they didnt get hooked
>>579152418sloppy butcher, coulrophobia, distressing, unnerving presenceDoctordouble Calm (purple and green)
>>579152416>everyone has to run multiple anti-tunnel perks.holy skill issue
>>579152843Usually when you get hooked, you'll be off the hook in twenty seconds or less, against a killer with incredible mobility and a chase power. Most matches are going to have the first kill achieved at 3 hooks within a few minutes without anti-tunnel perks.
>>579151892He's different in a confusing way, but without just fucking killing you like Sadako if you fail the knowledge check and it adds to the experience at the cost of sucking in a lot of situationsPreviously safe spots like lockers suddenly becoming death traps was a cool idea regardless of how the whole package ended up being>>579152373She's not that new for some people, which also happen to be the ones who are a hundred levels above newbies, and you don't need that much experience with her to snipe people from afar.Nurse is bullshit regardless of skill level, but it's not as overwhelming to deal with her since she just teleports in and hits you. You can still wiggle out of her grasp, blind her with a flashlight, drop a pallet on her, sometimes break out of her grasp with a perk, sabotage her hook, etc. Judgement in comparison doesn't have to engage with them in any capacity, she just throws her pillars and then banishes you. She can also get lucky and down your whole team in a single pillar (unlikely, but imagine the kind of impression this leaves).She and Sadako are the worst killers newbies can run into due to MMR bullshit like this even if there are way stronger killers out there.
I just stunned a baby v2nca 5 times on the same gen with blast mine
>>579153130our meg, who spent the entire game crouchwalking and did not touch a gen once, had this to say:
>>579153354ni... what?
>>579153798nice (:
>>579153860>nice ass killerSkull merchant then I take it
>Perks that have the "Hex:" prefix>All specifically involve turning totems into hex totems>Perks that have the "Boon:" prefix>All specifically involve turning totems into boon totems>Perks that have the "Invocation:" prefix>All specifically involve using the invocation mechanic>Perks that have the "Teamwork:" prefix>literally just whatever as long as it vaguely involves another survivor in some way, but not every perk that involves another survivor in some way has the "Teamwork:" prefixLiterally why does it exist.Fucking Obsession perks have a bigger justification for having a special prefix than "Teamwork" perks do, yet they don't get one.
>>579156082BHVR are retarded
>>579156246didn't they do something to judgement and said it was because some people don't pay attention to their screens and read twitch chat so they have to be accounted for or something like that?
>>579156834They undid the thing, but said they might bring it back thoughAs for saying it was for "people reading stream chat" they walked that back and claimed it was a joke (please ignore that balancing the game around people who who are dogshit at the game and/or aren't paying attention is blatantly what they do all the time)
>>579153354>meg spends the entire game crouch walking and enjoying herself and then calls the killer slurs to be meg is to be free
>>579158360the joke thing is so funnythey literally did the shittest thing"does anyone else think niggers should be enslaved?">weird stares"haha I was just joking guys sorry :)"
Idgaf about sprint burst nerf because I was always more of a balanced landing mami
>>579140864My favorite lore tidbit is that the exile the Judgment sends you to is actually more like it's stomach, the faces on her legs are humans that didn't escape and were fully made a part of her.
>>579150565>metaslave killer players are also a blight upon the game>if you're not a meta killer, it's very easy to get absolutely destroyed by SWFs
>>579164384unfortunately both are incredibly true for DBD
dumb tranny
>>579164384That's because it's not mutually exclusive due to how BHVR does match making.A metaslave killer nuking newbies from orbit is bad for the game just the same as a metaslave full SWF bullying a new Huntress.If the match making put those 2 against eachother it would be fine, but match making isn't based off of builds or if you're in a 4 man SWF it's just flat MMR so the only hope you have to get matched against the people you'd like to play against is play the build you'd wanna play endlessly and hope for the best.That's why streamers were jerking off cross-play off because they could get real sweaty metaslave matches.
Why is Wesker even in this game? He's not scary at all!
>>579170073DBD is not a horror game.
>>579170073he's pathetic
>>579170073The only scary killers in this game are killers with no terror radius that aren't wraith and maybe Hag if you don't know it's a hag and walk into a trap.
BIG BLOOD POINTS BABY
>>579171257do these stack?
>>579171060most of the killers would be scary as fuck if I was a survivor
Another day BHVR says something incredibly stupid another day everyone in the community is afraid to criticize it because they know they'll lose privileged statuses due to the devs being the most fragile and coddled retards.
>>579171419Hello newfag.Yes, they affect all players.
>>579171451I would fuck up Victor in a 1v1. Maybe not Charlotte because she's like 10 ft tall and weighs 800 lbs.
>>579171548victor would probably claw your arms off
>>579171476What did they say now?
>>579171419hell yeah brother
>>579170073The only three things that are scary in this game are Spirit walk cycle (nothing else about her just the way she moves is fucked up to look at), the Unknown promo teasers, and spotting a Micheal stalking you (which is more jumpscare). The weird contorted poses Nurse hits after blinking but before swinging are creepy too, especially the one where she's near horizontal and bent over, but you rarely actually see them because a good Nurse will swing right out of blink unless baiting DH.
>>579173668>near horizontal and bent overdo you have an example I've never seen that I think
>>579173725My memory might be making it up, but I swear I've seen Nurse with her feet kicked full back, leaning forward almost hunched over before swinging several times. However it seems Nurse has only one pre swing pose, maybe a model pose error I've experienced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xz6Uxj_ik0how do they manage to fuck up like this and let it get to live
>survivors finding my NOED ten seconds in yet againfucker
>>579170073He’s scarier than shit like Cuckster or Skull Merchant. What a weird thing to say considering what else is present.
>>579175261for me its this shit coming out of the blackness
>killer mmr is softcapped for each killer>survivor mmr is for allbiggest lie in history of dbdyou cant tell me if you have enough bp to waste on p100 that you get paired with a sub 10 games of pyramidhead even if my other killers mmr affects me partly
>>579175320lol
>>579175656clearly mmr is working fine because you still 4kd what the fuck you bitching about sore loser
How long until we find out if they allow us to keep playing Judgement?
remember how bloodlust was supposed to be a temporary fix until they fixed god loops designand then they just never fixed god loops so now we just have bloodlust forever and it doesnt even really help at 99% of loopsthank god they're working on dynamic weather mechanics though, that's something that needed to be done
>>579185930DbD is a gross gaping wound that continues to get covered in rainbow band-aids that don't permanently address anything in the long term while the body still continues to operate daily and begs for real help
>>579170073He is a horror game icon. That's literally it, he's just one of the most iconic character to use as a killer alongside Pyramid Head and Nemesis. Ironically, he represents everything not scary about Resident Evil series because he's just fucking Neo in a series about regular humans dealing with zombie outbreaks and bioweapons, so whenever he shows up, he tends to break immersion like nothing else.I wish he could Cobra Strike and Knee Cannon survivors instead of just throwing them around with Ouroboros, but that would make facing him even sillier than it already is.
>>579174846They added new animations recently, so it's at least not that weird for animations to get bugged.>>579175656MMR is currently fucked due to the reset.
>7 minute killer ques on a saturdayoh no no no no survivorsissies!
killertroons unironically do be like 'i love 2hours queues. got all the time in the world to dilate'
i used this one game to try it out, its absolute shit
>>579192803>pic related
>>579192879It used to be somewhat good for mobility in PTB
>>579192993its a meme to quickly close the distance in a chase, but the extra long CD and having to do the full charge means you just lose any gained ground
>play judgement on RPD>3-hit survivors grouped on a gen with lethal pursuer>they run to a corner to heal>see them on nurses, down all 3 of them>3 downs within 30 seconds of match startingi LOVE this killer!
>>579193074That extra drawback didn't exist before.Cf.>You can no longer cancel the controlled Divine Light and it is automatically cast when it would instead time out.>You can no longer cancel -nor manually cast- the controlled Divine Light and it is automatically cast when it would instead time out.So you could throw a pillar at some gen like you normally would in the middle of a chase and still get the full benefit from the increased movement speed. You'd still get slowed down a bit after casting, but there was a real benefit to using this addon at all.
>take clean break>the most efficient use of it is for it to be activated before you start healing the other person>if they have more hook states than you they will never do this>sometimes they just won't do it anyway and want to be healed firstI wish clean break could be activated in another way, or at least showed a buff icon to other survivors so they know you have it
>both of judgement's ultra rares actively make the power fucking unusable and dogshitwow....
>>579175261Trickster is infinitely scarier than Skull Merchant. Not because he's actually scary, but because the latter looks so fucking retarded that you can't even take her seriously as a generic human killing people.The whole claw mechanism makes no fucking sense because it doesn't do anything that a regular gauntlet couldn't do (Amanda already pulls it off better and she's not some supposed tech genius), the mask is just plain retarded no matter how you look at it (it's not avant-arded enough to come off as a rich woman thing and it's not scary enough to be in a horror game), the outfit is both too plain and littered with a bunch of pointless bits like the kneepads (on a woman who has long fingernails completely exposed on the hand that is more likely to come into contact with people) and the random shit on her fingers doesn't really add anything.Trickster is at least just a regular guy. Not Dwight kind of regular, but his appearance isn't offensively stupid.I have no fucking idea what they were doing with her. None of their original killers were as awful as this one in terms of design.
>>579194672>or at least showed a buff icon to other survivors so they know you have itDidn't they let you actually see builds of other survivors after a recent update or did I hallucinate thatNever really touched survivors, so I wouldn't know
>>579195137>Didn't they let you actually see builds of other survivors after a recent update or did I hallucinate thatyes but you have to open up a menu in-match to see themso the average player is absolutely not gonna do that shitJust fucking let us see perks in lobby BHVR
>>579195137>>579195441even if they did show teamamte perks more obviously, it would not change much because the average survivor wouldnt be able to recognize any perk icon other than a handful of ultra-meta perks because thats all they useyou show them the icon for something like friendly competition or solidarity and they wont know what the fuck it is or what it does
>>579188547Nah in 5 he was genuinely pretty intimidating and could jumpscare you in the hangar I wouldn’t say he’s scary but that applies to most of the cast too
>>579194672if clean break could be activated as long as you are injured and performing a cooperative action, it would be much easier for a solo player to perform while essentially not requiring any different circumstance. you are injured, you are within 1 meter of another survivor who is not downed, you are performing a cooperative action together. after all the specific details of the activation aren't important beyond needing to be with another survivor, it's about the 40 second waiting time
>>579196545It was undermined by him chewing the fuck out of the scenery and the protags being completely done with his shitDBD version is based on his character in 5, so the comic book villain aspect doesn't do him any favours as a killerOther killers are far more subdued in comparison, so even if they look lame or sexy, you don't giggle or smile whenever they say something
BUT NOBODY IS PLAYING THIS KILLERI SAW THE FUCKING HAG IN RECENT GAMESTHE FUCKING HAGWHO I SEE ONCE A YEARWHERE ARE THE JUDGMENT PLAYERS!?
>>579198708above your MMR, lil bro...
>>579198708Most players likely found her too clunky to use by now, so your chances of seeing her are much lower now
>>579198708why do you even careonly 3 of the 8 quests require playing as/against judgement, and you only need to beat 5 quests for the banner and badge
>>579198708>WHERE ARE THE JUDGMENT PLAYERS!?>high skill requirements just to do decently with the character vs survivors that aren't asleep at the wheel>even if you do get super good at the character they aren't even top tier so all that effort is wastedjust a whole lot of effort for no reason when you can get better results playing a character that is less skill-intensive to play
it's going well so far i think
>>579200057Conveniently, most survivors are asleep at the wheelBut realistically, once MMR hell is over, you're only gonna play Judgement because you genuinely enjoy how unique she is or you're a filthy lawfag
hm......................... yes
>>579200352Low hour stats are even more irrelevant now than they used to be because we're like a week or so from an mmr reset. And they used to be pretty damn irrelevant before.
>>579201367move Chucky down onehe can get around stealthily but he won't shut the fuck up so survs still know he's coming
>mmr resetThat reminds me, do we know literally anything about how the new mmr system works? Other than it tries to look at more than just kills/survives.Like, how does it work across multiple different killers, for instance? Are there brackets? That sort of stuff.
>>579200057I am continuously being told what a good player I am by apparent SWFs (or sometimes getting super salt and told the killer is braindead and impossible to play against) by just aiming the ray away, then turning both myself and the camera sharply where I want it to go and launching it. I don't know why people are so intimidated to try this, it's easy. this happens so close to the survivor during close range chases that I do actually believe them when they complain that they can't react. I wouldn't know, because every judgment I've faced only goes for long range snipes with aura builds, which confuses me more because I don't understand how these are landing with the full second of warning survivors get to just move aside. I think once more judgment players become comfortable with sharp turns and not actually looking at the survivor before launching during close range chases, and realising how easy this actually is to do, the idea that judgment takes high skill will go away. >you're just guessing though when you do thatno I'm aiming, I'm aiming in a line between where I expect the survivor to be (this isn't hard at all, try it) and where the ray was before I turned around. you either hit or hear the near miss heartbeat indicator every time. I say again, try it, it's easy, it really is, just intimidating to try at first. judgment is genuinely easy to play. and you can enjoy being told you're a great player (or seeing TTVs melt down) while it lasts until people realise you're not
>>579152843>wake upCan we revert the retarded nerf now that they added Diminishing Returns so it no longer stacks with the other "open gate fast" perk? Fuck BHVR
>>579195019It is really funny cause quite literally nearly every single skin of hers makes her look leauges better. Her base model gotta be one of the worst in the game alongside Houndmaster, yet her skins are just banger after banger
>>579203206apex legends character
>>579198708I got her a ton last night, like half my matches even, US eastalso you dont want to play against judgement, all of them are full aura and you spend the whole game dodging snipes and then one of your retard teammates is looking on their phone or something, gets hit, and the game snowballs for free from that
almost like bhvr should have left the alert when a pillar is coming at you in but caved to whining killerbabs...
>>579201406that's like ~40 matches
>>579203275I'll take Apex Legends design any day over the visual equivalent of unseasoned boiled chicken
>>579203546This. I'm trying to read the general while I play the game needs to warn me.
>>579203947You're joking but that was literally the reason they gave for the change (change general for twitch chat)
>>579203206It doesn't matter if she has good skins if they keep nerfing her so no one plays her>come back to DBD 1 day before the patch warm up for the new killer>play Skull Merchant>she no longer has stealth drones nor loses her terror radius when she uses one>no noticeable buffs anywhere elseIs BHVR retarded? Do they hate money or something?
>>579203931Nah Krasue is better looking than Merchant even in her basic formThe game needs more "simple", grounded looking cosmetics, both for Killers and SurvivorsThe last several years have been filled with overdesigned, gaudy bullshit
>>579203206Houndmaster is like ten tiers above Skull.She looks ugly (like an average fat Disney villain, so it still fits well enough), but she looks like a pirate and her design is cohesive enough as a whole, there isn't a bunch of random shit slapped on her. Her hair accessories are the worst it gets, but they aren't prominent enough to seriously detract from her design.Simply looking at her doesn't offend me, unlike Skull.>>579203931Krasue's mundane design with a traditional outfit contrasts with the monster form at least. It makes sense with her character.Skull Merchant's alts are fine in my book. They don't all fit the game (like >>579203206 looks too much like a fictional character you play as in a hero shooter or MMO), but they aren't bad designs, unlike her default that wouldn't work ANYWHERE other than maybe some Concordian nightmare that's full of garbage like that.
>>579204117they switched around so you become undetectable when you recall a drone wierd change and hated it at first but you get used to it
>>579204117Enough people have already bought her years ago, so they don't have much of a reason to fix her when they could make entirely new stuff that way more people would buy.
>>579203947This but unironically>>579197124Disagree, if you play the game for yourself the situation wasn’t like that it was very tense having to hold him off, that only really got toned down in the final fight but otherwise he was treated with the gravitas he demanded
Out of curiosity, how has your experience been with the new MMR so far? Are matches just pure chaos?
>>579205117yup. survivor is just having to play around the weakest link a lot of the time, and killers are 80% shit and 20% competent. i hope it levels out soon enough
>>579204693The tension is relieved when he starts talking or doing dumb bullshit like throwing missiles or twirling his gun to holster it.It's tense as like a boss fight, but not really horror the way a, say, random Nemesis encounter was. He's just way too cool and often cheesy (the actual final boss loses even that aspect)
>>579205117Since the change, as survivor I am exclusively being put with three solo and completely useless globes, but a console killer playing mercilessly despite the obvious giant skill gap. I don't know why this is happening to me because I'm really not bad. As killer, I am exclusively being put against fellow PC player survivors now who are all playing well and to win, whereas before, it was always a totally mixed bag.
>>579206380What do people not understand about MMR reset?You reach max MMR winning like 2-3 games on your killeroid and plummet MMR losing them on your survivoid and just dwell in retard hell because the MMR soft cap isn't high.
It's genuinely baffling how, despite being designed as a team, survivors get no real benefits from having teammates leave with them
>>579205117>don't currently have dbd installed>probably won't reinstall it at least until like a month from now>by the time I reinstall the game, the mmr reset will have mostly settled itself back to normal except for me because I'll just be a brand new player as far as the game is concerned since I haven't played at all in the new mmr system>thousand hour blight, nurse and kaneki player with over 80% killrate at high mmr matches suddenly lose on beginner level matchesThat's going to be interesting to experience. To put it mildly.
>>579131051based! fuck dbdg and fuck dbdiggers. once illfg drops we all leaving this dead af general
How do you know someone doesn't have the game installed?Don't worry they'll tell you 1000+ times.
>>579207602You are retarded and need to stop having this high of a ego while replying when you don't know shit
What an odd thing to throw a tantrum about, especially when it's relevant to the subject of the new mmr.
>>579209520I don't have an ego.It's been known since they added MMR and the softcap, because streamers would sit in queue for 40+ minutes for like the first few days, you now reach it winning like 2-3 games from base MMR.SWFs don't have to worry about shit like getting console Claudettes that hop off gens and crouch in the corner as soon as they hear a hint of terror radius even if they see someone in chase or just hide in a locker waiting for hatch at 1 gen left the whole game because someone died.Does it make sense to you now or are you going to continue to be a passive aggressive retard?
>>579209520The dude is clearly shitposting and you're taking it seriously. Who's the retard in that scenario? I'd argue for both.
>>579209520irony post of the yearMMR in this game is nonfunctional
>>579210682The only thing MMR does in this game is keep people who crouch walk the whole game out of your lobbies because it only works on the low end because of the retarded softcap.
Does the judgement beam hit separate floors like in midwtich if you beam on the 1st floor does it swipe the 2nd floor too?
>>579212813it goes up but doesn't go down
>>579170073imagine saying this when a faggy korean twink with a bat and a purple zombie are right there
>>579212982Okay on a separate, but very much related topic, is judgement better, on par, or worse than Pyramid Head? I know it's harder to use. But I mean just as how good the killer itself is, assuming you're equally good with both.
>>579213320significantly better IMO
>>579170073capcum insisted for a second roun but forgot they already blew their scary and iconic killer the first time and so they had to improvise, so they dumped in the literally who homobait
>>579170073Imagine if you where a survivor in the trial. Can you really say that you would not shit yourself if you saw Wesker dashing at you?
>>579213320I don't think it's even close because the amount of map wide pressure Judgement has vs PH.
>>579214162nuh uh.if they teamed up, david and adam could easily rape him.to be fair this is true for 100% of the killer cast so far.
>>579214367That's why we need a big burly Werewolf character to make the game scary again.
>>579213320SidegradeShe's WAY better from afar against people who have no idea how she works, but she's way worse up close and her advantages will soon be minimized once people learn how to play against herPH is also way easier just because he's a regular killer underneath all the gimmicks
>>579213320way, way better, it's not even closesome people are placing her in B tier, which is where they tend to put phead. that's fucking criminalit remains to be seen where she lands as players learn her but i feel like she's going to land high A-tier if not S-tier amongst strong players. she just kinda has everything you could ever want. mobility doesn't matter with a projectile as strong and flexible as hers
>>579203931Krasue is a Folklore monster, and in her folklore the monster looks like a regular woman until the heads takes off flying, so her looking normal makes sense.
took a whole of 2 gamesthe fucking white addon that stops the beam feels like it should be inbuilt its so much QoL
>>579214629idk why people put her in b-tier aside from she gets fucked by really large maps if you don't just play half the map.
>>579214940and i forgot the picits gonna be fun until i get higher mmr and people dont stay on gens when they big ass laser comes for them
>>579214940It makes chasing significantly easier but makes cross map beaming gens impossible which is probably her greatest strength because it's so much slowdown to just hit a surv just trying to do gens with it.
>>579214467We already have one, it's billy with the werewolf skin.
>>579215238The skin doesn't make him maul and rape survivors with his power.
>>579175261I like the Trickster. He is a regular human that simply enjoys causing pain. And it translates well with his power being a death by thousand cuts. I think he would be intimidating in an actual horror game or movie.
>Killer has mini old ruin just on her powerSo that's going to be gutted soon.
>>579214162Ehhh, not as much as original Wesker to be honestThere's something way scarier about an aggressor just running towards you at 60 miles per hour versus simply dashing at the same speed
>>579215756You can avoid getting it just by not getting hit by her beams. Even if you get hit by one, you can actually remove it.You can also avoid getting it. It just doesn't hold a candle to old Ruin.Will it get nerfed? Likely, same goes for Judgement as a whole.
>>579216687>Just don't get hit by the beam going through your gen every 10 seconds at 10x your movement speedWhy didn't I think about that.Removing it also takes time.
>>579216687How do I read stream chat then?
Would you guys recommend me buying the Oni or Gunslinger? I find them both interesting and i want to play both eventually but i only have 4500 shards so it will take an while to buy the other.
>>579216687You need mental help
>>579217482I have no idea why anyone would want to play gunslinger; buy onior if you have patience wait for halloween
>>579217625>or if you have patience wait for halloweenWhy? I just got DBD recently, do they have sales on Halloween?
>>579217482I don't recommend buying Gunslinger until they rework his addonsThere are better ranged killers than him and his addons are the most boring shit ever.Oni is fun but it's a little harder to practice as him because you don't have your power available all the time like other killers
>>579217625People love slinger because he has a gun.That's literally the reason. He's the answer to "What if we gave a killer a gun???" despite trickster being closer to a guy running around with a submachine gun.
>>579217236It moves towards you faster at a speed exceeding your run speed, but you do not need to match its speed to dodge it. You only need to step to the side far enough that it can't touch you, which is like a character length away. This is literally powerlevelfag logic.You also get a warning before it's even fired.>Removing it also takes time.As opposed to being unable to realistically remove it unless you get lucky with totem spawns.Whatever similarities you may draw, it's objectively worse than old Ruin because that thing was plain retarded. This says way more about old Ruin than Heresy.
>>579217873Its not only a gun, he also has a sick leather coat and a hat.
>>579217775They typically discount everything around that time yes>>579215747I’m afraid you’re just wrong then because there’s nothing intimidating about him
>Loading screen finishes>PC straight up bluescreensThey can't remove EAC fast enough holy shit.
>>579214367your trolling is so low effort dude at least put in a modicum of effort
>>579217775Yes, typically most things are 50% off.
>>579217482hmmoni is fun but kinda harddeathslinger is fun but kinda bad and a little clunkybut realistically if you're new you're going to be up against babs so it doesn't matter much either wayi'd lean towards deathslinger for immediate fun, oni for something deeper and more rewarding but far more of a delayed gratification kinda killer. or in other words, deathslinger will feel intuitive, oni won't, but oni is the better killer>>579217775they do sales all the time. it's on sale right now, even, because a new chapter just dropped. and they drop a new chapter roughly quarterlyi don't think they do special gigasales for halloween. i mean they do always do sales on halloween because it's a fuckin slasher game, 'course they do, but it's not a special discount worth waiting for
-Killers who can turn undetectable as part of their power should be actually invisible outside of 24~ meters. they shouldn't have to snake around the fucking map if they are unlucky enough to get an open one just to actually approach someone without them pre-running as is supposed to be a major part of their kit. Doesn't apply to undetectable applied from perks and add-ons. -Certain killers with mobility issues should move anywhere between 5% and 15% faster based on some combination of how far they are from the nearest survivor and the size of the map>but that gives them information based on their speeddon't care, good. -different killers should have different levels of a baseline corrupt intervention. some will have none at all. some killers should even move at a significant speed and be undetectable until they begin their first chase, like trapper, so they can set up >but that will be extremely easy forfor what, starting their first chase? for the fucking trapper and the hag getting their first M1? so what?
>>579218203Like, imagine a movie where the protagonists get kidnapped, throw into some abandoned factory or something and the Trickster is there hunting them. I think it would be scary. Specially with how confident he is with his skills. Imagine a scene where the characters think they are safe just to a knife hit them in the throat out of nowhere. There are plenty of horror movies where the villains are just random people who enjoy causing pain, i think it could work.Obviously it would not be the scariest thing in the world that would give you nightmares, but i think it could be a tense movie. He is not scary in game because no killer is scary in game. Everybody who plays DBD plays with the mentality of this being a competition to win, so the scare factor wears off very fast.
>>579218825What's the point of being invisible and undetectable if you can be heard from 20 miles away?I get Huntress keeping her lullaby or whatever, but Springtrap has some of the loudest footsteps in the game and he can gain undetectable via his kit. Dredge has a similar problem where you can hear it from anywhere even though it's meant to catch you off-guard during nightfall.
>>579218687>but realistically if you're new you're going to be up against babs so it doesn't matter much either wayDo not listen to this retard this is factually false. You will NOT be up against easier players as a new player, MMR in this game is for all intents and purposes non-existent outside of a ~1 hour window during prime time in the most populated regions during high player counts.
>>579220124MMR's existence is exclusively to keep newbabs facing newbabs. that is its sole purpose, practically speaking it has no effect once you have like 100 hours and have hit the trivially easy to reach softcap. and to its credit, that part tends to work, at least from my limited observations of newfriendsbut yes, MMR is a spook
>when you already won so you can fuck aroundthis is the most fun ive had with this game in a while
I wonder how much of the judgement whining is the killer actually being oppressive and how much is just MMR resetting and making it so everyone is suddenly a fish out of water
>>579218398>everything i don't like is trollingok, retard*rapes you*
Why’s zubatlel in the fergalicious music video
>>579221659The only broken thing about Judgement is the thing in MintSkull’s newest video where he talks about how unreactable the beam is if you launch it at a three second interval from the charge
>>579221659Third option: she's a very unusual killer because she does not require line of sight nor being close to her to kill you. Unlike the Artist, she's far more effective from a distance and can continue her assault whenever. Moreover, you can't easily get rid of her debuffs when hit and she doesn't need to interact with half of the game's mechanics all the time since she has an alternate hooking mechanic.It doesn't matter whether she's actually good, you just can't play against her like you can with anyone else, so there's a bit of a learning period we're still stuck in. MMR reset just made it worse since good Judgement players can find themselves stuck fighting babies and good survivors may find themselves fighitng baby Judgements, giving neither side any meaningful experience.
>>579221985>how unreactable the beam is if you launch it at a three second interval from the chargei assume this is in regards to sniping or somethingbecause you only have to hold it for a second for the cast to become effectively unreactable
>>579221781what you said is factually and canonically wrong so if you’re trolling you’re just dumb either explanation is fine with me
Am I any good at this game? No ranking or MMR so I don't know what you're supposed to get.
>>579224901Even with all the basekit buffs and pallet density making survivor gameplay extremely easy the average survivor is fucking retarded and brings the game’s average skilllevel way down, so yeah I’d say you’re good.
>>579224363it's explicitly stated in the internal dbd lore bible docs that adam and david can (and in fact already did,according to a highly detailed 25 pages chapter) rape wesker VERY easily.You can take a trip to bhvr hq and see it yourself.cope and seethe weskuh fangirl
>>579224901You're at baby levels with 300/200 matches played. That said, everything reset so who even knows anymore.
>tfw trying to play killer but i keep getting twitch streamers who aren't streaming so i have to use my afk build instead to waste their time :/
Considering playing a match of DBD again as killer. Definitely not as either of the new killers, since they look like they're shit.Before I commit (even though I've already installed), how are the new survivor perks? Will they be exceptionally retarded?
do we know how the new mmr works for different killers in the same account?
>>579227120>Definitely not as either of the new killers, since they look like they're shit.Since when was Jason bad?
>Springtrap is utterly powercrept>lots of people still play him despite him being kind of shit because he’s fun and has lots of voicelines>BHVR won’t do anything to his kit beyond slightly tweaking the numbers because “uh well he’s popular so he must be really good”
>>579228809why the fuck would they buff a popular character, stop asking for buffs and ask for nerfs to others
>mmr reset>500 prestige matches with a nurse who is fucking around and not hooking anyoneuhhhh
>>579228809>lots of people still play himHaven't seen a single one since Jason released. Even before that, he was 1 in 30 or 1 in 40.
>2 survivors down at 5 gens up>mikaela runs after me frantically clicking her flashlight>ignore her>she dc'sWas I the villain there?
>>579229054>noo you cant buff a dogshit killer because his playrate is above average, you have to nerf other things instead, nevermind that there is nothing that warrants nerfing
>>579225117ok see at least that one was funny just put some effort in i like a good joke post too
why do survivorsissies give up so easily?
>NOOOO YOU MUST STAY IN THE GAME!!! PLEASE DONT LEAVE ME!!! NOOOOO COOOOOTE THEY ARE LEAVING DO SOMETHING THEY COMPLIMENTED MYY REASSIGNMENT SURGERY YET WHAT THE HECK!rofl
ooohooo
i literally cannot remember when i had this much fun on this shit game.judgement feels so FUCKING GOOD to play and get good snipes with. god im about to cum in my pants when i hit these blind cross map leading shots!
meg asked you to bring an item
>>579235709Bringing items and mixing perks between survivors is tryhard shit.Boring.Pick a random survivor every match, and only use that survivor's 3 teachables + 1 general perkThat's the peak way to play DBD
Why is there still not just a "activate chaos shuffle for me only" button
>>579232891>nevermind that there is nothing that warrants nerfing6-fingered hands typed this post
>>579229054They don't buff popular characters, they don't buff characters that nobody uses, do they ever buff anything?6 months since Diminishing Returns and no buffs to shitty perks that lost their niche either
>>579238116idk what you mean anon, why would they need to buff anything? the game is fine the way it is.
I'm done.
>>579238915Why? What happened?
meg recognized you
>>579238116they also don't nerf shit so i don't know what you're crying about, it's been the same top tier killers forever but jason and judgement came there toooh i forgot vigil and sb got mega nerfed
>>579239257he tried literally any other multiplayer game at all
>>579239408kekit was a pic from that deranged ex pig otp that 4ks in every single match then says surv is too op
>>579239326Obsidian Feather has literally just been nerfed into being completely worthlessCrab build was never even that good, it was counter-intuitive on a long-ranged kiler, but it was funnyNow it's completely unusable
the only ting im not sure about yet is if you want to shoot at a survivor on a gen across the map with judgement, but they aren't braindead and will pop off when they see it moving towards them, how are you supposed to effectively charge the beam in another direction, then redirect it towards the target you want without missing 90% of shots?
>>579240063You can only get long range snipes by delaying the shot and moving the reticle close to the target but still behind a wall so they can't see the snipe coming. Otherwise they will always get out of the way. Of course you can maybe guess which direction they'll run and fire in that direction, but it's a prediction shot.
>>579240063This is only possible in empowered state, you can redirect it for 0.3 seconds after the beam becomes active.But to be empowered, you need to exile somebody first.
>>579238915>sissycuck be like
I hate bright lobby backgrounds
>>578992339>Players spend YEARS asking for bots in custom lobbies so they can practice new killers>BHVR finally adds them>Nobody actually uses them
>>579243218because the bots don't actually act like real survivors
>>579221659full aura build centered on nemesis and celestial is absolutely broken, depending on how degenerate you want to be you have 6 sources of aura read via addons, given how snowbally the killer is when you play like this its only a matter of time until you catch a survivor with their pants down and then the game grinds to a halt
>>579243695They do sometimes>Getting healed by actual player>Bot runs up and starts spamming crouch>They never actually help heal
>>579243218I literally play against bots 3 matches when I’m trying out a new killer
>>579243218>Go into custom lobby to practice vs bots>They aura read you through walls and dodge every ranged attack as soon as you throw it>Never step into any traps to the point they'll bug out if you pincer them between it>Run from your stealth killer as soon as you enter a 32m radius of them>etcYeah this practice feels real useful thanks cote.
you have to be beyond mindbroken to play with botsactually terrified pissing your pants tier castrated sissy
>>579246080you have to when Fung rage quits because she was chased first
>>579246080It's about practicing the killer power or memorizing map layouts without the stress of a real match. Nobody actually finds bot matches fun.
>>579247116>without the stress of a real matchnigga it's a video game take the thong out yo bussy
can you hop locker to avoid getting sniped
https://youtu.be/x9Arywontd8?t=205
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>>579250727Deserved for wearing socks like theseI can forgive the skirt, but not those
>>579156082Because the first "teamwork" perk was made for the Tools of Torment chapter which was crafted by retarded interns.
I don't play survivor. Can they see Dredge's nightfall meter?
>>579253186No
>>579247116>stress of a real matchI just load into a match on the new "high skill" killer and start trying to throw beams at people wtf are they gonna do put me in low elo on a killer I'm not very good at???
>>579253670It's not about fear of losing. It's just easier to practice the mechanical aspects of the power and memorize map layouts when you aren't trying to win a match against real people. Why do you think fighting games have training rooms?
>>579253670I have killer anxiety
>>579253769How is it easier to practice your power and loops against bots with ESP?Go ahead and try to mind game a bot, you're better off just going into real lobbies.
>>579253935It's not about landing hits. You don't even need to interact with the bots themselves, you can just plant yourself in the middle of the map to scare them off gens and then practice at a loop with no target. Removes all mental stack and makes it easier to learn.
>>579253935In a real lobby, the game will end in like 5 minutes if you don't kill anyone to prolong the session, 2 if you doYou can't set up a scenario you want either
>>579254326Idk works fine on my machine learning to do 180's on Judgement in chase and being told I'm "so good with that killer" because I'm also beaming people on random gens mid chase.Unless you need to learn the absolute basics of playing killer you'll be fine just chasing a random dude the whole game trying to learn your power.
is agitation better than iron grasp?
maybe
>>579255052Depends on what you're trying to do. If you're just running people to scourge hooks/basement run agitation.If you're mad at sabo players or people taking hits run iron grasp.If you're mad at people taking hits run mad grit.
>>579255052Yes No exceptions
>>579255346>If you're mad at people taking hits run mad grit.Forced Penance can be a bit funny in these scenarios if combined with wiggle protection
Can we Nerf the Judgement Already LoL. I feel like the Devs took a lot more time on her passive quest for survivors gimmick than the time they spent to balance her kit. She's just doing too much. Can hook or send you to hell. Can hit Multiple survivors. Can spam skills unlimited time without trying just by hitting beams lol. Her whole kit is just endless aoe beam spamming hunt. And you only need to get hit twice by that massive aoe multihit beam. She feels like the Artist if combined with the Huntress and Pyramid head so like a powerful version of all three. Yall need to balance her fr. Like I know she's new but i don't know any solo survivors would enjoy playing against her. OP af. Same problem like when Jason came out. Straight out no wins.
>>579263680Have you considered stepping 1 meter to the side when you hear an obvious warning sound and then see a pillar of light making its way towards you?
why are the queue times on deadbyqueue so short for both sides? is this because they removed mmr?
>>579263815bruh how can he he's reading chat chill wtf it's just a game
>>579265372pretty much. hopefully it'll return to normal soon
While you are reading this post, the Judgement is casting her pillar of light in your directionSee the light
somebody clip that
I didn't see the light until I was already a man
>>579263680They're not going to get nerfed because your average retard can't hit a single beam and only uses them in chase when they're in direct line of sight.The same reason half the bullshit strats exist in the game like Twins camping gens harder than old Skull Merchant because your average retard doesn't know how to properly execute it.
>>579268817Twins? Who is that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L2U2orCs3o
>>579269348Victor Mcsluggasurvivor and Charlotte Asleepontwogens
>>579082572more like starring your chinless mom as susie because the former is as fat and ugly as the latter
>>579269485Weird names, but I've never heard of em in context of the gameAs a side note, isn't it weird how Binding of Kin's header has so much empty space on the right? It's also fairly expensive for a chapter featuring just a survivor
>>579255052Agitation saves time and helps you get to scourge hooks, and also helps you hook on stronger hooks.Iron Grasp really only works on backpack builds where you run around with Agitation and Starstruck or something but those builds are shit and are useless against SWFs with IQs above room temperature.
>>579271514>SWFs with IQs above room temperature.Does such a thing exist? Can you prove it?
>>579271639>SWFs with IQs above room temperatureEvery SWF I 4K>SWFs with IQs belove room temperatureEvery SWF you fail to 4K
>>579271791>belove
>cmwinter uninstalled and is finished with dbd>is going to japan to get a smoll japanese waifuwhat's your fucking excuse?
>>579217482gunslinger if youre in high MMR hell and everyone is speed running gens or impossible to hook. slugfest.oni if you want to have fun
>chinlessyou’re way too obvious even when you try not to be as usual
around when would you expect hinako to go on sale
>>579245747>they'll bug out if you pincer them between itHow so? Curious as to what they do.
>>579277972They just walk towards it and away from it into you over and over until you hit them and sometimes they'll keep doing it even when they can run through you.
>>579221659Map dependent, small and hallway maps she's borderline unstoppable, on larger maps like Yamaoka Family Residence she's very easy to dodge and predict.
>>579282402Any indoor map honestly. If you get some shit like eerie of crows you might as well d/c because the survs can see you across the fucking map looking at them.
oohoo
Yalls thoughts on trans folk?
we are so close they just need to make it pop up on the hook
>>579244371You'll say this until you meet an actually locked in and competent team. You are overestimating your mmr at the moment.
>>579295393Based
>>579296349>long cooldownI didn't know 5 seconds is a long cooldown.I guess Ghostface's 15 seconds cooldown is an eternity
>>579297278are you trolling
>>579269426so true xister
Sadako's tapes are bugged, they will be following you on the ground instead of being at your hand.
leaked video of the judgment explaining why she kills survivorswtfhttps://youtu.be/UWGtZ9Oqcwc?t=65
as a nurse main and a trans woman (kind of redundant iknow), i think the judgment would judge me and go like '9k hours on dbd? yoooooooo ' and then kill all the survivor chudsters
I just had a match where i grabbed off a Taurie from a generator and she disconnected instantly. I had no undetectable and just hooked a survivor right next to her too, so its not like she did not know i was there lolAlso a few days before this i had a Taurie that had No Mither and disconnected when she got hit. I wonder if it was the same player?
>>579300390gooners are one thing but maining an ugly woman is even more unhinged
>>579297504i think this is an intersection between anti-complementary autisms
for some reason it looks like third seal is broken, it is stopping you from seeing survivor auras. im gonna test a little more to see if its only with deerstalker, or it stops other perks as well.as you can see in this screen shot, im in the corner of the map, no one is in exile, so one of them should show up during deerstalker, and no, none of them had aura hiding perks, i checked.
>>579300390some survs just refuse to play the game against certain killers, period. they think they're justified in wasting people's time for the slim chance they might have a negative experience. who were you playing?
>>579301916anon.read what deerstalker does, and then read what blindness does.they can't see your aura when they're blind. if they can't see your aura, they can't see yours.this is an anti-synergy, not a bug
>>579302709>if they can't see your aura, they can't see yourstautologically fucked the phrasing. meant to say, if they can't see your aura, then deerstalker will not reveal their aura to youthis is the same interaction between distortion and OoO
>>579300195>>579296669>>579295393a certain tcm lover is saying this
>>579302709>>579302949gaykiller should get all the benefits and none of the drawbacks
>>57929727815? No.30? Yes, that is a fucking eternity. The fact that used to be fucking 30 and he lost it for the dumbest shit like stubbing his toe is horrifying.
>I actually like her, just shitposting
[Kate scream]
HUEEEHEEEHEEEHEEEEE
I know people say it about any injured survivor but Vee REALLY sounds like she's having sex when she's injured
>play one match>completely spread out hooks and 0 slugging>0 generators completenice mmr
>>579309450Jill Valentine sounds like a dead girl getting fucked
>>579311419Deaf*
>>579308974>you voted for thisthis one actually triggers me because it is specifically NOT what was voted for fucking niggers
>>579312218Imagine Judgement with actual laser beams instead
>>579296349What's weird is that the best time and press F1 and read the novels would be while you are on a gen or on a hook, both times when you need to keep pressing space to pass skill checks. Could be solved by your image with more compact writing, or by letting you see and pass skill checks over these screens.
>>579312751Yeah that's what I'm saying, nobody is opening these things manually because there is almost never a good time, but while you have a breather it could give you some important info and allow you to still see if someone's coming for you and whatnot.
>>579312751At least on the first hook you dont need to press space so there is that.
>>579312453hey this is actually decent advice, thank you feng min
In a better game, you'd have a training mode with action recording feature and instant role swap to let you just practice specific scenarios over and over (e.g. record throwing light pillars at a gen as Judgement, then swap to survivor on the other end and try to dodge it when replaying the recording)
>>579312453but my We'll Make It
>>579249245Unless something fucked up happened or the beam activated a split second too late, I saw a survivor hop into a locker right before a beam passed over them and they weren't hit despite being caught in it, didn't activate killer instinct either
>>579314767this is still free-kino but orela's perk outclasses it as the best single general healing perk now. theoretically we'll make it is better but practically it's orelas one.
>>579316736I've had way too many situations where I'm healing multiple people that aren't on death hook while under the buffIt's the only perk I never take off
>>579315053i wonder if that’s the optimal play to get off the gen and wait next to a locker until he fires
>>579317760I feel like it would be better to learn to dodge them instead to minimize time lost waiting it out
>>579312453What about when there is only 1 Gen left? Isnt better to help another survivor on the last one to finish it faster?
>>579317760The cooldown on her power is way too short for this. Its only a viable strategy if you notice that the Judgement is shooting the powers on a rotation on the gens and you know that your gen is next.
>>579318130Yeah but the concept of three gens is a bit much for a new player to take on all at once
>>579312218one out of seven winning power votes being used isn't bad
>>579312453actually good, very nicethere should be one for new killers too. chinese billy or some shitsomething something don't let them get free fast vaults, survivors have a third person camera and will wait at corners, forcing them to move and lose sight of you and then giving them a reason to hesitate or guess is the fundamental essence of a mindgame, something about kicking pallets/trying to get the pallet down, positional/strategic play, what actually is pressure, and maybe a blurb about le growth mindset (i would emphasize improving your chases and m1 fundies over forcing wins by hard-tunneling solos)oh and probably something about dead hard and spins and the like. you should never get spun
>queue for 7 minutes>win in less than 2god damnit
I haven’t paid much attention to this game in the past 3-4 months, what’s going on with mmr?
>>579323565they changed how MMR +/- is scored to consider more factors than just the previous binary win/lose scoring. as in, survivors who did nothing but survive would gain MMR and survivors who carried the match but died would lose MMR. now (in theory) those two should be reversed, impact is what results in MMR gain/loss. i assume surviving/dying still has decent weight but it's not the literal only metric any moreanyways they reset MMR with this change so it's a little wild
>>579323565it's been reset for a new MMR system, so matches are a little weird right now
>>579318265You might as well just dodge at that point
>>579321475One of the most important pieces of advice would be knowing that every killer has flashlights installed into their faces (you can't see it no matter what) and survivors rely on them a lot, so if you have a good enough grasp of their movements and a tall enough wall, it's better to look away while moving so they don't get a clear warning telling them where you're coming from. It can buy just enough time to further close the distance between you two.
New Claire stuff when
>>579074869ngl my cromagnon wife and baby jane would get along just finehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfguKSFBU1I
[my opinions are my own, but also reflect all tranxfolkx globally]
and my opinion is...susie is cuter then feng (:
The flashlight save timing buff was the gayest shit ever, it used to take skill
>>579333985Conveniently, the latest killer does not give a shit about them
>>579334225I run Lightborn anyway
I wonder how many flashlighttranny squads that only play the game to make people miserable would quit if there was an accessibility option for the flashlight to darken your screen instead of burning your retinas
>>579334829Lightborn is funny because it either does nothing or gets everyone killed, especially if you have some wriggling protection to shove a stick up the savior's ass without losing your current victim
>>579334987Remember the old version of the blind screen?
>>579329821>>579321475The concept of zoning should be in there too. That it's okay to do a half loop around a pallet before kicking it just so they can't run straight to shack, and that chasing near other survivors is always better than being led to a corner.
>p100 kwon hiding in lockers against judgement at 5 gensthat was the fastest sandbag Ive ever done in my life
>>579336572b-b-but you have to check his perks chud! what if he had head on?!?!?! i'm reporting you for unsportsmanlike conduct!!!!
>>579333985i don't disagree but also i think flashlights were deserving of a buffit's still already almost borderline throwing to go for a save. you have to be in the right place, at the right time, with an actual possible angle, and also not get baited out by the killer faking pickup. the stars have to align if the killer has even a thread of a pulse. the fact that previously you also had to perfectly time the blind itself was probably a bit too much (let alone that lag also factored into the timing)>>579334829oh lol
>>579337492More importantly, a flashlight isn't a toolboxSaving a teammate once in a while doesn't have the same impact as actually achieving your primary objective faster and putting massive pressure on the killer that can potentially result in them making questionable decisions just to prevent gens from being done while they're hooking just one guyThough you could say that it's more a problem with toolboxes and how much the game focuses on doing gens versus the flashlight actually being weakSaving people from getting killed doesn't actually get you any closer to escaping, it merely ensures your ability to progress doesn't suffer massively from losing people
this flashlight talk has given me another chinese billy tip: flashlight avoidanceyou should feel like flashlights are a minor nuisance at best. look down to avoid blinds, look down when you get blinded, face a wall when picking up if you can, otherwise fake the pickup and see if anyone flinches. face away from where survivors could already be when actually picking up. most of this applies to pallet saves as well>>579329821very true, i had that in my head with the "fundamental mindgame" thing but that's more specific and relevanti would emphasize that when you hide your red stain like this, oftentimes you want to delay your timing a little bit, just enough so the survivor can be convinced that you're doubling back>>579336507that's another great one>and that chasing near other survivors is always better than being led to a corneruhhh kinda, really depends. need to have snowball potential i think for that to be a good idea.corners are deadzones, so zoning towards a corner is zoning towards a hit. but that corner can also be in bumfuck nowhere. zone them towards the area you want and can exert control over i supposethe other survivors will be some flavor of mid map usually, if you constantly chase around them you're probably chasing towards resources and extending the chase
>>579338358nah nah you can lose a game on the spot by getting flashlight saved, it's indirect but losing a hook + hook state is a massive blow to your pressure. it's why old-old DS was so comically brokenthat being said flashlights might actually be the only item that lowers your survival rate when equipped, whereas toolboxes and medkits always give a ton of guaranteed value
>>579340549Old DS had the advantage of only needing one person (the survivor in your grasp) and it didn't really have much of a counterplay. If you didn't slug them, you'd basically have to always account for the survivor breaking out of your grasp after one hook, effectively giving them 3 health states to work with and massively delaying your attempts to hook them.A flashlight save can win the game, but that requires things snowballing in favour of survivors to happen and there's way more counterplay to it even if you don't just slap Lightborn into your build. The kind of reward you get for pulling off a flashlight save isn't even remotely comparable to the looming presence of old DS.
>>579342501>you'd basically have to always account for the survivor breaking out of your grasp after one hookshit, i guess i mean the old-old-old DS? god damn how many times have they changed this perkthe version of it where you had to juggle the obsession to hooks, eons agoanyways yeah that's uhi'm saying the *effect* of a successful flashlight save can be game-losing, and the effect of old(x3?) was essentially a self-flashlight save available from the start of the trialnot really commenting on relative strengths
Meg: Do you know why they call him the Knight, Ellie? Elodie: Tell me!Meg: Because if he's a good Knight, you'll fall asleep! Hehehe! Elodie: Honhon! But you know Meg, I heard they're removing skill checks from the game.Meg: Why's that? Elodie: Because nobody has any! Honhonhon! Meg: Hehehe! And that reminds me, Ellie. Word is they're going to treat Trapper to mobility, offensive options, and a one in a hundred chance of actually winning. Elodie: Wow! He's finally getting buffs? Meg: No, they're letting him into Fortnite! Hehehe! Elodie: Honhonhon!
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>>579344527Kino.
I genuinely enjoy meg and sparkle cheese posts
I genuinely enjoy DBD
>I genuinely enjoy DBD
>>579345924
why is elodie called sparkle cheese anyway
>>579346491I wonder if any of this is even remotely true
>>579346678I wish I could have even HALF the confidence of ChatGPT when it's wrong. >>579346491It's from some 'choose your team mates' image posted here years ago.
>always end up in a worse mood after playing DBDTime for a break
I've got some bucks to spare. Should I grab Ghoul + Dracula, or just Nemesis?
>>579347554you should spend your money on something worthwhile instead
>>579347615I haven't looked into the others yet. Is pyramid head fun?
>>579347554Nemesis is has better perks. Ghoul and Dracula are both stronger and more fun to play, particularly Ghoul.>>579347754He's clunky and very difficult to play. Mediocre strength level, completely outclassed by Judgement who does everything he does but better.