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Did I get it more or less right for now? I'm somewhere in the middle of Chaos+ and did conflux 5 recently. I want to replace 2nd passive on celestial Lumen and something like that should get me through rest of the game on her? Anything else to consider? Do summons passives work on AI? I think I've read that stout heart bricks them and gets them killed?
>>579023517Stun always stun
>>579023602I don't think I can get it until I find summons with actual passives though.
>>579023517Its fine. Dont worry about it as your killtimes should be around 5 ish minutes and S rank at the least. Get your Stun Power and Health MAIN sigils for the mastery trait dmg cap bonuses later (sub skill damage cap/uplift/potion hoarder.
>>579023508>Sandalphon>VersusI sleep
>>579023294couldn't stop laughing when I first heard Fediel call her during SBA
>>579023294
>>579024575It makes sense for bubs to like Men.
Spamming Perfect Execution isn't even fun or interesting, having full stacks should just make the basic chain do really good damage or something
its been 2 weeks since i last played. i would like to play more but
Is glass cannon good for an AI companion?
>>579026205Yeah but it's depending on the character and kit.Perfectionist Eustass can get away with it, he's very good at avoiding damagePigfried on the other hand tends to muscle through things with Perfect Execution making Glass Cannon a bad idea on him.Also, don't use a Stout Heart summon if you plan on doing this. It'll make the AI not bother with dodging attacks.
>>579026205I wouldn't bother unless it's a DoT build and you aren't running Stout Heart. You can fill more than 12 orange sigil slots without even touching it and the gains are minor compared to most of the alternatives.
>DanchouThe one i'm well acquainted with having played the story and base game around her. very nimble and can easily dodge stuff and then unload all my damage skillsmaximum damage i can deal with barrold is around 220m>RackamVery braindead build but I love it. I made Coffinmaker and holding X and watching him pew pew pew is very fun for memax training damage is 309m>EugenVery funny gameplay. I made a grenade build and I just lob grenades at the enemy. throw throw throw roll activate. He's very funmax damage 188m>RosettaProbably my second favorite. Very easy to use actually dunno why people are mad at her gameplay. Also the only Character I can be an MVP on Infinity.max damage 220m>CharlottaI used to play her same with Lancelot just mashing square but I recently learned how to the double triangle and I started doing that to do maximum damage. One of the few characters I can bring to 300 million.max damage 313m>FerryMy favorite. Back in base game I just summon pets and let them do the damage while I take potshots here and there. Nowadays I do the same as everyone which is the onslaught although she is very luck based and at the mercy of whether the pets will stay after an onslaughtmax damage 293m
>>579028182>LancelotI used to do the Twin Dragon back in base game where you just spam triangle and you do damage and do evade. it was fun but nowadays damage on that is very bad so I try to mix it up. I saw someone spam Perfect Finisher back to back but for the life of me I can't do it I don't know how he did itmax damage 180m>PercivalI do the skill spam build. it's very fun to spam the skills then just charge triangle right after and get a free cooldown reset on your skillsmax damage 215m>SiegfriedI can get why people are mad at his gameplay the Dark Zeal style is a very big damage but I kind of just treat him like Percy. I just spam three damage skills and then just do my best to time my attacks while waiting for my skills to cooldown and if i'm lucky I do the Dark Zeal lunge when I get an opportunitymax damage 234m>TweyenNever got to play her in based game. I stopped playing right after Lucilius was added and never got a chance to come back because of VII Rebirth but I throroughly enjoy her gameplay especially during link time. I have the Injury to Insult build which I know does lots of damage in quests and I sometimes can get MVP too if the rest of my team is as bad as memax damage 147m
>>579028182>>579028339>FedielI heard she's very OP but based on my gameplay she's just kinda ok and she's so heavy movement wise. Don't like the movement that much unlike the others where they're very nimble. I'm sure most can reach 500m with her but I can only do a max of 311m>IdLove him in base game and still love him in ER. Very fun but back then I focus on his human form. Now I heard Dragon form is better so I did that and it's really fun it's like you're playing a really angry guy and he does angry stuffmax damage 241m>MaglielleSo very happy she got added as a playable character in ER because she is so cool im base game and one of my favorite fights but she's very hard to use and she isn't very nimble. I always get sucked in a lot on enemy skills that suck players. Still love her thoughmax damage 286mthanks for reading my blogpost. currently I'm doing Zeta because someone suggested that a week ago althought it will take some time because the rest of the characters are ones who I never bothered updraging or forging weapons for and doing FATE episodes back in base game. I love Granblue ^_^ wish you guys great days and have fun!
Desu the Maglielle Blade Dance dodge spam super gorilla damage tech is actually quite hard to do in practice. You need to know exactly when the Link Attack is coming and start using Blade Dance from full in advance, and lining up the finisher to the exact time the LA prompt appears.It's easy enough to intuit in a 60 second score attack or someone like The World who gets consistent Link Attack windows thanks to Quickening shenanigans, but the vast majority of the time you're just gonna start using BD4 whenever and when LA's do pop up you most likely will he at like half gauge or something.With that said, it does waaaaaaay too much damage if you can get it off in a fight. I did like 40% to the World after a single Quickening. But I do like that it takes skill and timing to actually utilize.
>>579028786Yeah you need to be really skilled to use Maggie
>try crux sieg with cpus because people were talking about it>fucking die left and right because of themthey don't even have stout heart on
>>579028339The new Lancelot is Crux with Southern Cross as main source of damage. Also provides immense phase skipping potential with glaciate.
>>579028182>>579028339>>579028534Your blogpost was a fun read anonIm glad you are still having tons of fun with this game and I hope you enjoy Zeta as much as I do!Gallannza next pls
>>579028534cool blog anon, have a picture of my favorite character as a token of gratitude.
What's Fraux's best build for Infinity fights? I want to try her out, I'm just using all damaging skills right now, not sure if there's a better way
i went on >Twitch to see if people are still streaming this game out of curiosity... and you wouldn't believe the fucking garbage shit I found. >see this 2-view guy streaming his group's Luci infinite record run (presumably for the parser site) >eh why not, let's watch >they keep eating shit during the initial El Losto Paradiso and repeating the quest >wtf is going on >suddenly realize that these fuckers are all using roided-up in Glass Cannon hyper fragile builds >they throw runs in the garbage as soon as someone messes up or fails to do a naked perfect dodge >they're doing this ad nauseam Fucking disgusting. These are the motherfuckers polluting the numbersite with their dogshit builds doing hyper-inflated DPS in literal ONE SPECIFIC RUN they manage to capture out of a hundred failed runs. I always wondered why the "top dps" guys were running really weird sigil setups with absolutely zero defensives. Now I know why. They're all fucking useless builds but they only had to "succeed" once to get their shit build plastered on the parser site. Parser site and its consequences have been disastrous for the Relink community. I hope you're fucking proud of yourself, parser anon. The community discord mods were in the right for banning your dogshit vibecoded webapp.
>>579031624If it's for like a challenge run or speedrun stuff specifically then I don't think it's that big of a deal (very autistic though)But if these same people are gonna insist that this is how you HAVE to play the game and chimp out when someone doesn't sweat as hard as they do, then that's some actual bugman behavior and they should be shamed for it.
>>579031624Sounds like an average challenge run stream
>>579031560The one that lowers her free casts to 1 in exchange for boosting the hell out of the one free cast you get, I'd imagine.I think the gameplay is for you to fish for landing full duration Dead Lands when the boss is vulnerable or standing still.
>>579031624Stuff like that is so silly because even when they do end up getting the run, it's only after a massive amount of failureProfessional athletes for example at least get consistent at what they do and will perform consistently well, just restarting over and over until the stars align is so retarded lol
>>579032063>But if these same people are gonna insist that this is how you HAVE to play the game and chimp out when someone doesn't sweat as hard as they do, then that's some actual bugman behavior and they should be shamed for it.it's less that and more a secondary effect. there's a not-insignificant number of people who aren't part of the parser in-groups (too shit to get invited) but still LOVE to regurgitate their builds. they're the ones fucking up the pubs and driving people to build up their CPU party instead. these people are indirectly responsible for pub games getting worse.
>>579029764I'll have to check that out then>>579029796Yes thank you! I just watched a Zeta right now skip the entire 2nd Phase beginning of The World by jumping on the ball lol.I'll definitely try Gallanza out been meaning to try the Draph guys.>>579030061Thanks anon! I love Seofon players and their free SBA!
>went to go back and do final vision>lucy has no actual damage gates so he died in 12 secondsWait fuck bring him back, I loved this fight so much.Do I need to go build some character halfway so I can have fun in it again?
https://youtu.be/wcKPymTBbCU
>>579034727>open video>3 Fediels>close video
>>579034802c'est la vie
>song is a popular pick for women huh
Is rising really more profitable? That shits still getting support
>>579035532they want to be her
SBA-abusing Gallanza is the worst partymember you can have as Pigfried, perhaps second only to SBA Ferry fucking stack thieves
>>579036245ArcSys are actually competent developers
>>579037010isn't that AGP?
>>579037445Not if you're a womanNo different than how I want to be Siegfried
>>579037736>No different than how I want to be Siegfriedmy condolences on your autoandrophilia, ma'am
>>579037736>Have to dodge roll your way around the house just to get anything done>If you're ever off the beat you spill your food on the floor or shit your pants before making it to the bathroom or whatever>When some guy nearby outside your house stubs his toe your toe gets stubbed instead
>>579038037>get home from work >turn on TV >dodge roll to the bathroom to take a shit >"BREAKING NEWS!" splash screen appears and interrupts you mid-roll >you fail your PE and shit your pants just another Thursday after work
Cygames loves Siegfried because they know he should be the most skill-based and fulfilling character to play
>>579036245it isn't, it's just FKHR's pet project
>>579035532girls like cute girls
interesting tidbit: it gets harder to dodge cancel when the framerate gets unstable or dips even slightly, almost as if a video frame buffer being flushed out of the pipeline also flushes your input. this NEVER happens in normal camera angles but occurs very frequently during scenes when your camera gets forcibly zoomed out to the max
>>579031624you should have bullied it harder when it was spamming parseshit during the first few days.
https://youtu.be/uoHZDMAR-AEeveryone is a parser nigger with logs now?
>>579041480if you're making a video asking a question about chara performance, parsing is going to make answering that question a lot easier, it's not like ppl will listen to you if you just post the honorsThe problem with parsing is only the smart ppl try it and the realize that you can make really good DPS while equipping defense sigils, and sucking the cock of glass cannon builds is literally cuck behavior
>>579040112no nevermind.I think the fucking latency impacts PE timings.as soon as a Chinese fediel ragequit over some small offense that I couldn't put my finger on, I could PE every roll without fail. I think it's time to permanently shelve this shit character until the next expansion or until the game dies. I honestly think downloading mods to make his hits all PE is a legit QoL improvement adjustment in line with activating turbo input for Lancelot. I won't hold it against anyone who chooses to mod Siegfried for that purpose. for now, I'm fucking off to the fire homoknight.
>>579041480>link attack doesn't lead to finisher >she HAS to continue the combo and get cuckrd out of free resource buildup h-haha, just like Pigfried I think "link attack is a waste of time" is the branding for every character that's hated by Cygay
>>579040112Ran FLM out of curiosity, latency seems roughly equal at 60/60 and 120/120fps but increases noticeably when you can't hold 120. That explains a lot about Quickening parries feeling inconsistent even when I'm accounting for travel time.
>>579041480I legit dont understand the hate for parses.>>579042278The conversation on the previous thread made me finish him and try him out. Its shittiness casted a shadow of doubt on all the (random) Siegs that i played with which topped the score. Without really knowing how Sieg played i simply thought they were good players but, now with actual insight on how the character plays (same happened with Perci, i didnt understand how broken he was until i tried him out), i went through a couple of Log pages looking for these cracked Sieg players and oh surprise their damage breakdowns were identical, besides the required link attacks and SBA, nothing but PEs, not a single miss timed Normal Attack or Lunge. I have no real proof and am sure theres people THAT good in the wild but i find weird the 5 "cracked" Sieg i checked showed the same perfect score without a single normal coming into contact.
>>579043859>I legit dont understand the hate for parses.
>>579043859there's this Korean Pigfried player who makes autistic unedited daily videos of his Pigfried infinity clears (his ingame profile name is literally Siegfried) and gets like 2 views per video max. he's bar none the best Pigfried player I've ever seen and clears most of his infinity attempts without losing his stacks... most of the time.but even HE jumbles his inputs frequently and reverts to normal attacks to keep his stacks going, especially around SBA timings. I think you're right and I also find it extremely hard to believe that these "top" players are somehow doing nothing but PE through some of the dodgiest phases of the fight. it's one thing to use Sieg PE mods and keep it to yourself in pubs, which is perfectly fine. it's very odious to use PE mods and have the gall to proudly display the damage numbers ilon the parsertard site as though they achieved something. now THAT is crossing the boundary from QoL adjustment to unfair cheating.
>>579043501can you explain what this is for retards like me?
>>579045570Free program from AMD that sends mouse inputs (or whatever else you specify) to a game and measures how long it takes to respond.But all you really need to know is use 60fps instead of 120 if your system doesn't do 120 consistently.
>>579045348what do the mods do?
>>579045896>use 60fps instead of 120 if your system doesn't do 120 consistentlyisn't that basically every system currently? I get dropped frames by the shovelload if I look at zegalis from the wrong camera angle during one of his minime phases and I'm on a reasonably specced system that had consistent 144 in the base game
BROS?
>>579047971Whoa I see it too
・Fixed a bug that allowed Gallanza to activate his Skybound Art without a full SBA gauge as he entered Deathmatch Finale or reached the max level of Wild・Reduced the max level of Fediel's Enhanced Combo Finishers effect granted by Insight: Finishing Touch from 10 to 5, and reduced the attack power of her magic orbs while Enhanced Combo Finishers isn't in effect.Before these adjustments were made, Fediel was capable of dealing significant damage by repeatedly using combo finishers at the lowest level of Enhanced Combo Finishers, which disincentivized the need to raise its effect level.To address this shortcoming without overcorrecting the playstyle, her magic orbs will now deal less damage without Enhanced Combo Finishers, but at the same time, Enhanced Combo Finishers can reach its max effect level more quickly.Magic orbs have been adjusted to deal higher damage as the effect level increases, but damage at max level will remain roughly the same as before the adjustments. Showman.
farming defy infinity is now competitive for MSP gain!
Fixed an intermittent bug where the boss in The Not Forgotten Sky quest remained permanently out of attack range, thereby softlocking the quest.Fixed an intermittent bug that caused the camera to stop working properly while playing either the New World Order or On the Threshold of The World quests in online co-op.Fixed an intermittent bug where, while playing either the New World Order or On the Threshold of The World quests, the camera stopped working properly after The World activated its Celestial Sphere ability.Fixed an intermittent bug where, while playing either the Let Chaos Reign or On the Threshold of Chaos quests, the camera stopped working properly after Beelzebub activated his Hail to the King ability.
also can hold up to 10m msp, finally can save up and fully upgrade a chara in one go probably? iirc fully upgrading a chara takes like 6mil total MSP.
Zero cero nada null buffs
I will wait to see how hard Fediel got fucked I am 99% sure that they left out crucial details that will have significant impacts, as usual >Perci untouched did they forget to add the notes? or are they giving up?
>none of the dogshit mechanics got touched >none of the dogshit encounters got touched >only 1 of the 3 giga op characters got touched >none of the dogshit characters got buffed what the fuck have they been doing for a month?
weird update, maybe they play to do multiple updates in a short period instead of saving them all for a single big update? ain't no way there isn't another update cooking.
>>579051701the new tech is gonna be dodge-cancelling the claw attacks to get to the finisher faster, kinda like Siegfried except her kit doesn't make you wanna fucking rope yourself
>>579052858just tried it, the hitstop freezes you during your dodge animation so that dodge cancels don't fucking help lmao
so it's basically the same game but fedielniggers got their just desserts and you get more msp. kinda lame
>Hey should we address the myriad of bugs affecting damage and gameplay and lying to our playerbase?>lmao here's more MSP
>>579053149>yet another character that gets locked into buildup bullshit >when the game is full of mobile bosses what the fuck are they even doing, man did someone named Mr. Buildup suck their dicks at the office for a month straight? what the fuck is with their obsession with these slow ramp up mechanics i would've welcomed the nerf but this is about the worst way they could've done it
>>579051701yeah, i think i am fine with those changes for fediel and they sound fair. It's how i played insight fediel anyway even though apparently the optimal way was to go directly into orbs with one or even no stacks.Now i hope next they make some of the really shit characters actually viable.
>>579053481>infinity MSP rewards are pitiful and people are going back to lower-level quests to farm msp instead of farming them the Intended Way (TM)? >sensible adjustments to MSP gains? nah... >let's overcorrect and completely trivialize the one last remaining thing that kept people playing the game cygay, every single time. overcorrecting is their fucking motto.
>absolutely no adjustments to Pigfried or Rosetta >not even a cursory band-aid fixes an entire month's design effort went into nerfing ONE character? really? they didn't even fucking touch Id or Perci.
dude what
>>5790542204 niggas grinders won
>dodge dodge dodge PERFECT FINISHER>why yes, I don't play the game and exploit mechanics. I haven't been nerfed in this patch lmao
>all those days passed to fix a bug from 1 (one) character>fed slight nerf but id and perc untouched>shitload of bugs still arround>balance is still very shityeah gonna take a break from the game until real major updateat least if i feel like playing i can still abuse mag bug that makes id and perc sweat in dps race
>>579023294thigh sex
>>579023294This Cag is FAT.
Seems like unistalling the game to free space for Overwatch was the right decision.
>>579055091>unistalling the gameUnderstandable>for OverwatchEwww
>>579054875what's the broken shit with Id and Perc? honestly haven't seen that many of them.
>>579054323they lost tho, think of all the missed points...
Why do you even call him Pigfried? What did he do to you?
>>579055321There's nothing broken with Id. Seems intentional that he's that fucking overpowered that only an oversight on Fediel and a bug on Percy were stronger. Probably to shill him to all 100 players playing Vs.
>>579056653>Probably to shill him to all 100 players playing Vs.damn, i didn't realize it was that grim for versus. imagine having less players than the shitty steam client for the gacha.how the fuck is their general so fucking fast then?
>>579056887I'm surprised that anyone plays Granblue on Steam
>>579055321crux id dps is fediel if you remove her sba gain and speedrunning versaperc rotor bug abuse puts him behind crux id but above the rest in general
>Hit damage cap>Get as much as I can from my sigils with aqua/ventus, full cap, full supp, all echoes and war ele, don't die to any mechanics>Still fall behind MVP by several million to others who just eat mechanics and die all the timeI guess I just don't get the game. At least I clear bosses every time even without MVP
>>579057984Are you sure they are on your level?
>>579056887Yeah, I don't know why they keep shilling Vs when Relink seems to be doing better. Even Riot with their infinite money glitch couldn't get their game to work. Fightan is just SF and Tekken at a distant second and nothing else.
I guess they left one guy to support the game while the rest got reassigned to other projects. No other way to explain such huge delay for a tiny update.
is the chinese dragon woman dead? will chinese people finally fuck off?
>>579056887>how the fuck is their general so fucking fast then?They use that thread as a discord for some reason, it's a lot of off-topic posting and avatarfags and that kind of nonsense.Most of them aren't playing the game anymore.
Mastery change is good, I can just play defy infinity to build all my characters now kind of removes the only reason I was even afk farming which is good since I'd rather not have to. Disappointing that there wasn't more character balancing though.
embarrassingly small update
dogshit game
great game
sigh nodusfall cant release soon enough
>>579031624I got no problem with others doing theoretically perfect runs. It's a PvE game, it's not like these people will ruin your day.
>>579059525>will chinese people finally fuck off?They'll just review bomb the game and move onto whoever becomes the new meta.
Shut the fuck up and post feet.
>>579051862If we get ~70k MSP previously, do we now get ~180k MSP from Four Dragons? Have to check this out.
>>579065304probably since the dragons themself drop 10k each. unless they changed those numbers
>Maggie's super Blade Dance meme tech wasn't nerfedWhew>nobody was nerfed aside from Fediel who actually got out pretty okay and wasn't butchered in the process, and Gallanza which was more of a meme than anythingI'm not sure how to feel about this patch. It doesn't feel like anything happened.
>>579067126>>Maggie's super Blade Dance meme tech wasn't nerfedher what?
>>579067375Beholdhttps://youtu.be/gXYLHFOc8pI?is=kf0OsH4RkiRw25lL
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>>579067657>2 days agoi guess a bit too recent to be on their radar.I also don't think it's that crazy outside of score attack when you don't have LA pop up 4 times a minute.Honestly the more interesting thing i took from this is guard cancelling X after XXXY for insane veil gauge buildup. I'm gonna have to practice that.
>>579054215Whats wrong with rosetta nigga
>>579068027Maggie can spam Blade Dance finishers by simply dodge canceling and pressing Y repeatedly as long as a Link Attack window is presentHowever, you need to time it so your gauge empties out exactly when the Link Attack appears, so it requires a lot of timing and planning to actually utilize.>I also don't think it's that crazy outside of score attack when you don't have LA pop up 4 times a minute.Exactly. The impractability of it keeps this tech balanced despite it's explosive damage output. That said, It's super good on The World, since he does have consistent Link Attack triggers thanks to Quickening perfect guards.
Everyone is more or less shit in this game
>>579068118>Honestly the more interesting thing i took from this is guard cancelling X after XXXY for insane veil gauge buildup. I'm gonna have to practice that.I can attest that it has been a huge boon for my gameplay ever since learning it.Btw, I recommend double tapping guard in between X button presses, it makes it a lot more consistent.
Can the AI deal with Narmaya's "One. cut, one kill" master trait? Should I even be runninf this in the first place? I've watched a guide but some people are disagreeing ao I don't know...
https://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/401/Bro this are changes that should had been implemented on its second week. The MSP over"correction" wasnt needed, less reason to play the game now.
>>579069592Where are Rosetta buffs?
>almost 2 months in>Id and Percy still untouched>Kat still shitWho is this patch for?
well at least the stopped za warudo's phase transition from bugging out seemingly?haha...
>>579058873Because vs. is an external developer. Arguably Id may have been done by cygames but everything through Ilsa is Arcsys.
>>579067657>>579068497it's just an exploit, you're not supposed to land free finishers in a row >Source is bilibiliOf course chinkshitters are avant garde when it comes to gamebreaking stuff. I expect chinese players to jump ship from fed to percival/mag
>>579073309You're not landing this in an actual fight because of the timing required to get BD4 finisher to line up with the Link Attack window. It's not nearly as braindead as Percy using Rotor into fire stab or Fediel balls.
>>579073309nah, the mag shit takes way too much skill and RNG for the stars to align that you just finish the blade dance as an LA triggers so you can spam the maximum amount of blade dance 4. I honestly can't see anyone seriously pump their Mag damage output doing that during a real fight. It's not nearly as braindead as Fed orb spam.I still expect it to get fixed since yeah, that's just a pure exploit, like gallanza getting a free SBA. i wonder, can any other characters do something like that while a link attack is possible or is it some weird as fuck interaction with Mag's blade dance only?
>>579073309They won't. There's no way to accelerate your blade dance usage so you have to time it precisely in actual combat. You can only somewhat delay with dodges but you can't use too much anyway because the bug needs dodges so if you use too much you just go straight into dodge cooldown. And even then, it's still less damage than pressing space rmb 5 times under Versa's armpit.
>>579069592Gallanza and Fediel? Thats all???
>>579069592Someone let me know how much they nerfed Fediel's DMG
I just realized since I have Ventus in all my build should I just add Life on the Line too?
>>579078598LotL its just a regular damage modifier.Unless Terminus and Fatebreaker are not enough for you and you are still struggling to reach 100% damage cap, its useless to you. More so when you could move around some style traits around to get that normal dmg mod.
Oh boy, just Fediel nerfs and no buffs to other characters. Bitter faggots heckin' won I guess, meanwhile characters like Eugen still feel boring as fuck to play.Begging for PVE nerfs btw, the absolute state of gayming
>>579082173t.fedielcuck
>>579077797For dummy scores I'm getting 350m playing insight Fediel the old way vs 420m building stacks first. Essence clawmash lands around 390m for comparison.
>>579079972Ok. I don't really understand a lot of things but when I do the percentage thing on the training dummy what number should I be aiming for? Usually it varies from 300 to 500 percent depending on the character and attack
>>579083328it should be 100%. everything over 100% means wasted damage and you need more DMG cap.Usually aim for something like 120-150% just to be safe.
>>579083068Yay so much fun when there's more pressing issues like all the bugs like Magi getting 1 bil sub 60 with reset, heckin' owned amirite redditsissies? I love when everything is equally underwhelming and clunky
>>579083328If you are over 100% you need mlre DMG capIf you are under 100% you need more normal modifiers but its very rare and when it happens it only tends to happens to normal X attacks due their low motion value and said attacks are noone's main source of damage.
>>579068137>spam roses >boss moves away >spam roses again >boss moves >spam roses again >next phase >boss isn't there anymore >spam roses again >finally, spiral rose >boss moves away on the last hit, cucking you out of the +DMG buff
>>579083298Thanks chief
i expected loosened timings for Siegfried this patch i would've even accepted a more sensible stack layout like what Fediel just got but no, apparently gorilla rolling is fine and the intended tech for fried pigman
我們改名為珀西瓦爾,並確認對方是同性戀,否則就被踢出公會。
>>579043859>I legit dont understand the hate for parses.you say this and then listed a paragraph-long reason why everyone hates parsertards.
>>579083764>>579083448OMG thank you for informing me. Since base game I never understood it.
>>579084536So the hate for parses comes from cheaters that can be identified thanks to them and people wanting unbalanced mess where half of the characters don't even play the same game and are just background decorations more than anything?
>ParsingThe whole shit should be in-game option.
>>579053547Now you can spend all your time building up to combo finishers just for endgame bosses to teleport away, go into bloodrush, etc. and make you miss all of your damage. Same as every other character, well except for those that are far more mobile, tanky, and have consistent uptime.
>>579083707>seething at a 60s damage test flex that you'll never see in an actual fight>"Waaaaaaaah why did they nerf mommy Feddy I want my free EmmVeePees!"
https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/773 thank you chinamen an actual QoL mod
with the MSP gain buffed and Cygames showing clear signals that they are largely okay with the current game balance, now is your chance to jump ship from your main to something else. >who's your main >who are you leveling next
Surely theres a (real) patch when the costumes drop, right?
>>579089534>who's your mainMaggie. Still gonna keep maining her.>who are you leveling nextSiete
>>579089691>Surely theres a (real) patch when the costumes drop, right?
>>579089691
>>579089534>mainZeta>leveling nextThey're all leveled, idling C++ Luci will max everyone with 999 Ambrosia to spare long before you'll get a good summon
i wish this was a live service game at least they would be forced to care about it even a little bit
>>579087679>t. hasn't actually compared her damage realtime and noticed that it's complete shit nowYayyy so much fun redditsissies, heckin' owned
>>579093582are you conveniently forgetting the track record of their other live service offerings? look at PriConne and tell me if you really want that kind of live "service"
>>579093884dragalia lost would still be alive if not for nintendo being retarded
mang "overdrive" is meaningless if the boss is in overdrive for 90% of the fight
>>579093884what's wrong with priconne? i only know global was horribly mismanaged due to being handled by crunchyroll.
>>579093719Are you seriously comparing an oversight that you can do 5 seconds after picking up Fediel to a bug that you can't even do in a real fight because there's no way you can get 4 stuns in under 60 seconds?
>>579095050Nig you don't actually play Fed at all if you think the claw build is viable by comparison with the "nothing personnel" spam endgame bosses do lmfao, they could have addressed that but have fun getting assraped by 999999 true damage AOE spam with her claw hitstop.Meanwhile literally everyone realizes Perc is bugged as fuck and he survived with no "fixes", but you homos were just mad she had one very specific thing. Claws still suck in real world use, sucks ass in link time, etc.>b-b-but SBAWow, she can do ~10 million damage at best one or two more times than other players in a lobby. Meanwhile other chars literally just drain tanking and faggots want to cry about>b-balance in hard gameWhich holds zero weight because>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>full assist mode exists
>>579095472Now point where in my post where I said Percival, Id, Ferry not getting nerfed was fine.
>>579089534I switch between Magi and Cag, but I'll play Charlotta whenever they finally decide to give her an actual mastery or an actual overall sweep to unused masteries. The balancing on masteries is just terrible.
>>579096019Now explain how you completely dodged every valid point in that post to continue clapping your hands like a retarded seal to try and feign intellectual honesty in our exchanges.
>>579066512>>579065304huh, nope. wtf?I even searched up a random video and they got like 70k.did they raise the quest reward but removed all MSP the dragons dropped? that's shitty. Or am i missing something else and the dragons never dropped any to begin with? even max path to mastery wouldn't give enough to go from 30k to 70k pre patch.so essentially the MSP from 4 dragons doubled. eh. still alright i guess.
>>579096680That was my first reply to you though? No one ever said you have to use claw builds? Just use claw 5 times and go back to spamming balls. You just do roughly half the damage but according to you it shouldn't matter because full auto exists right?
Pedielniggers killed the game
>>579097784>we need a patch note for the patch note not even 12 hours into the patch release come the fuck on why is this company like this
>>579097859That's literally her entire "intended way to play" that redditsissies were bawling their eyes out about, though? Please tell me what other build she has to compensate with anything I said though.>roughly halflmfao, under you mean.>n-no uAgain, that just shits on this>N-NOOO YOU SHOULD HAVE NERFS IN PVE BECAUSE GAME SUPPOSED TO BE CHALLENGINGbut the simple fact that full auto exists just contradicts this entire>NERF EVERYTHINGmentality you tards do.Again, sure is fun when everything is equally underwhelming and annoying to play against dashdashdashteleportdash
Are you a Folcachad or a Seedhollownigger?
>>579099070it's irrelevant until they finally add multi-user lobbies
i'm getting off work in a few hours and it's gonna be a 3-day weekend with nothing to do but play Rosetta holy fuck i'm going to be so mad
Is there any character similar in gameplay to Beatrix? Preferably with a lot of shouting and jumping into the air for no reason whatsoever. I've tried Fraux a little but she doesn't click for me.
>>579099737Labor day isn't until september 7th though
>>579100859i am taking monday and friday off to make it a 3-day workweek followed by a 4-day weekend PLENTY of time for me to get pissed off
>>579100786
>>579100786Yoda has basically the same gameplay where you click a skill into finisher
>>579089534I unistalledBut I played Rosetta, Mag, Song and Fraud
>>579102180Why is this potato so smug?
>>579100786Multistack drifting? SieteVoice Line spam? Lancelot
>>579057290Rotor bug is just a fraction of why Molten Perci is busted.
>>579057290crux id? isn't that his worst tree?you charge up your vengeance and then the boss moves and you're left with your pants down like a schmutz
>>579105782You can cancel it and it wont go on CD, also all of his CDs between his 3 forms are not shared
>>579093719Just play claw build you cornball
I'm glad the fedielnigger is upset
>>579106760how do you cancel it?
>>579108109I still think it's tremendously funny that 60 second Maggie is what's got his panties in a twist considering she will never use that tech in a real fight, meanwhile Fediel got to spam her shadow balls anytime, anywhere, even when bosses would be otherwise unhittable by everyone else in the cast (Versa)
>>579107531claw build sucks
>>579108109The only consolation for how bad and late of a patch we got.
>>579108873Her balls don't track upwards and always lose height with travel, so she wasn't doing anything meaningful when Versa was above or away from the stage either; you'd want Io, Eugen, Rackam, or Eustace for that. What made her bullshit at that fight was getting 20+ hits per ball if you threw it from under Versa's chin armpit or tail, and often killing Shadow the Idhog as splash damage collateral.
very natural reviews today. absolutely nothing wrong>translate a couple chinese reviews from today>they all mention something about a dark dragonkek
>>579113748It's crazy how predictable their confucian review patterns are, they really can't help themselves huh lmao
>>579103192>>579102180I'll try the midgets, thanks.
I just got the game and while I'm enjoying the gameplay, the UI/HUD is an absolute nightmare. Just let us turn off individual elements. Why do I need a compass filled with icons AND icons all over the screen? One is good enough. Why do regular mooks have floating health bars? They only take a combo or two of damage. Why have the quest info in the top right corner? You just have to press the menu button and there it is. Absolutely bizarre UI design decisions that's completely at odds with the excellent core gameplay, beautiful world designs and other polished aspects.
>>579104192potatoes know their sex appeal
>>579115219It'd be nice to have more options but I'd also say that those things you mention are very minor concerns. You'll have a lot more to worry about.
>>579115704So true!
well, i tried infinity versa today for the first time.That was shit. timed out with like 30% left.
>>579116036I love Infinity VersaI love fighting a fuckhuge dragon that leaves the arena every 10 seconds to spam slow ass AoEsI love fighting on the largest arena in the gameI love Shadow IdI love it when my camera rubberbands to this fuckass roach every time I try to hit Versa before he flies off againI love getting tail swiped by Versa because the game made me do a 180 to look at IdI love it when I do get to hit Versa but Id pulls a Coldsteel the Hedgehog and nothin' personnel's me from half the screen away with his long ass AoE dash slashI love it when you kill Shadow Id but he revives right as youre about to break Versa or something and crashes the party with his unwanted, camera-stealing assI especially love how my AI party members would rather 1v1 Id in the corner than help me deal with Versa, on the off chance I actually do get to deal with the dragon myself.I love how Versa has his own theme song and it's the best song in the game but they refuse to play it here and instead regurgitate other Bahamut themes from the gacha gameI love Versa, what a well designed and engaging fight!
我们绝不宽恕对中国的巨大侮辱,这些恶心的日本狗竟敢毁了我们珍贵的浅巧克力色皮肤的中国龙女!现在我们必须多注意我们所做的事,这是不可饶恕的!利用她应该是无脑高效的!你们这些混蛋,这罪行会被烧死!
>>579117186+50000000000000 social credit
>>579113748Kek
Tbh, outside of super sweat lobbies, Fediels were starting to be rare. Ive seen more pub perci as of late.
who asked?
>>579102180retarded crown
I just played. Everything was ok, nothing bad happened. The stacks did not drop. There was no anger, only peace.
>>579121556I'm glad you're enjoying the Chinese mod, Pig-Sama.
>>579121556>sieg>rosetta>kathaving fun yet?
>>579121654I'm not using that, I'm not chinese
Hmm, Today I think I will use Le Hombre Over Here on Infinity Luci.I look forward to helping out my comrades on such a difficult fight.
>try bea>very fun unga bunga>do any chaos++/infinity fight>every boss dashes 100 times so u cant stack finishers>when i enter gold clock a cutscene happens for one of the literal non mechanicsfun game
>>579124337Do yourself a favor and play insight or crux, gold clock is bait. Way less effort and much more Devour Causality uptime for similar results.
>>579089534>mainright now just narmayai'd return to my old mains like cog once actual balance changes or they finally gets buffed/fixed>leveling nextnothingbeatrix seems abit hard to play to minmax her so she stays as AI
Just finished Zeta's FATE episode and lmao at the story.She feels very difficult I can't seem to time the Loop Combo for some reason maybe just need more practice with her
>>579055321Vaseraga is stronger than both of them
>>579108109using this bea
Anyone wanna play if I make a lobby?
>>579131250I will join ^_^
>>579131250Host it bwo
>>579131250yeah I would
>>579131393Cool session made ID is "NJ98 W597 7R6C G30C" pass is "pizza" if it asks. I'm going to hang around and see if we can get to 4 for about 5 mins.
>>579132503no sessions found
>>579132503yeah no sessions found
>>579132612Dammit my bad, ID is "NJ98 W59T 7R6C G30C"
Bubs is just way cooler in the spinoff games.
Is throw damage a meme? Who uses it?(also unrelated but why does Ferry carry a big bottle on her?)
double chain burst to finish hexa off before it could do the final phase was rad
>>579132503thanks for hosting anon, very cool
the gang that defied infinityggs on the entire infinity gauntlet
>>579142294I love siete, he is the only reason I keep playing this game
>>579141016>Ferry carry a big bottle on her?)isn't that where she keeps geegee, fugee, beppo, nicola and momo? a better question is why does momo only appear on SBA
ugh... why does Fraudx have stance-specific DMG cap increase nodes? so annoying and stupid.
>>579142592man, Sora looks kinda weird in Kingdom Hearts 4
>msp income approximately doubled for the usual suspects (4dragons.org) anyone gonna try for the insane stretch goal of getting 4x +20 stun for their overmastery?
>>579144219I heard from a friend that you can only get up to 3 stun rolls on Over Mastery 1.If that is true, then the super optimal loadout would be +20% NA Cap and +60 Stun
>>579127136There's a blue cross-shaped sparkle that appears when you hit, that's when you press to loop. There's both a master trait and the Crimson's Flight sigil for making the timing easier as you get used to it, and if you're comfy with dodge cancels dodging towards the boss after each loop lets you mash the next one pointblank and get it for free.
>>579127136I find it most consistent to press the button right before zeta makes contact with the enemy. If you want more specific timing the button prompt will change on the UI in the corner.
If I'm dogshit at the game should I stick with Siegfried or play Siete instead? I find Siegfried's defensive buffs to be really great but if there's no other defensive character when I play Siete it's definitely harder for me. But DPS wise I can only assume I'm doing a lot more with Siete since I can't keep the stacks up with Siegfried a lot of the time outside of link time and I see people say he does no damage without 7 stacks.
>>579145953some characters can only hit 85% crit for some reason and I think they could benefit from a 15% crit up
I'm building a new chara and i don't wanna cornflakes. Would ppl join a mat farming lobby?
>>579152367Sure!
>>579152367session ID:KGJ9 LP58 ASDK 3A7J
>>579152947no session found
>>579153637>>5791529474/4 currently
>>579153758No prob enjoy!
>>579153758There's a spot right now hurry
>>5791529473/4
Pyet deserves his own Infinity
>>579155173it'd be nice to have a reason to revisit every fight desu
I will never ever recover from slimeblasting
>>579152947slot open
>>5791529472 slots open. Thanks for the runs, btw
>>579158501Thanks
>>579158501>>579152947nvm, lobby over. ggsMight host random lobbies again in the future, still have other charas to build.
>>579158674>>579152947fug i just got here
>>579150809>>579150360Thank you for this! I can confidently loop now
any room?
>>579127382I already get a heart attack just watching the occassional vaseraga that i see online sitting at basically death's door the whole quest.What is he? A FF dark knight that hurts himself for big damage?
>>579165703He has a skill that gives him infinite guts for like 30(?)s and if he keeps landing his charge attacks he can loop it, so as long as he keeps looping the undying buff and hitting charge attacks he's the king, but if he misses a bunch the buff falls off and he gets sad
how long before this general goes to the retirement home that is /vmg/?
>>579169656Didn't realize you could play relink on your phone.
If you bros host a lobby tommorow I will joinI wanted to today but life keeps making other plans for me :{
>trying out crux siete (tag team)>ramp up takes so long that I cant get all 4x2 stacks before boss does a phase change >stacks rot away while the boss blabbers on and the game devolves into avoiding the floor hazards >this repeats for multiple phases and I end up only getting the stacks up by wasting a link time or desperately mashing during SBAseriously what the fuck was the design intent behind these long ramp-up builds if they were gonna make all bosses have anti-ramp up mechanics? and its the same fucking formula for all the bosses too. initial burst phase, followed by lava phase where you are not allowed to touch the boss. fucking dogshit WoW raid design.
>>579174718if you don't care about dps it becomes fun
When are they gonna announce the new costumes they promised us?
>>579178627If there's nothing when Id comes out in Rising/TGS then I wouldn't expect shit until grubfest in december
>>579166221it also starts to fall apart if the boss fucks off too much and isn't around to get hit.I only ever risk running it against hexa and maybe the world, the rest are too big of spazzes to reset consistently enough.
i have finally cleared infinity versa.fuck that fight.
>>579059525I think most of the hacks and other stuff seem to be broken with this update. People are playing terribly now and DPS is abysmally low.
>>579186404funnily enough that fight is still exponentially easier than Dark Swordsman was when it was added, plus the Juutens and Sandy being added around that time(same patch i think) certainly didnt help things with people being incredibly fucking undergeared, the only reason i even beat it on pubs at the time was thanks to a guy cheatinghttps://files.catbox.moe/ka65qh.mp4and its particularly funny because im not only on PS where cheaters are hella rare, it was THE ONLY time i got cheaters on a quest, not even Zero or the gauntlets had cheaters on them, hell, even now the most ive seen people cheat is their sigils or wrightstones
Hmmm...Hmmmny...
>>579175285it's not even that fun if you get to be in the super saiyan state for all of 2 seconds before the boss fucks off and you're left holding decaying meters
Any way to make this work?
>>579200465Seofon Infinito Creare
>>579200465replace stout heart summon with it if you're confident that you won't get hitor replace stout heart summon with it for characters that get stout heart or "cannot be interrupted" effects naturally
>>579200465I mean yeah, with sigil booster you still hit 45, it good
>>579174718Every character that's strong must be turned into another character that gets to waste their buildup while the boss has its turn for 90% of the fight. Enjoy.
Ramping definitely shouldn't be a thing in this game
I love getting stronger and sweatier as the fight goes on and on and on and I get even sweatier and my muscles start to bulge and cramp BUT I KEEP GOING AND THE SINGULARITY GETS STRONGER TOO AND I-
>>579206331Perci's molten edgy is gonna turn into a forever ramp-up build too as soon as they fix the fire donuts bug. those 9 stacks take eons to build up and the only saving grace that keeps him from drinking out of the gutter and contributing nothing to the party is the fire donuts bug. >fast stack build relies entirely on boss chimping out or shitting out ouchie puddles >some fights have puddles that actively hurt you and fuck up your party when you touch them (luci's purple goop and the exploding crystals)>link time is unironically the slowest ramp-up phase for him, outside of boss being literally absent and nothing happening molten edgy is built on dragging your ass on the ground and doing nothing until the fire donuts bug gives you 200 million damage in one shot. and it's not even a guarantee either: the bug simply won't trigger sometimes. i hope when they fix the bug, they also fix some fundamental issues with his kit (LOL no they won't)
>>579207478Trick of the Tail is an amazing album
chinamen vibe coding better bosseshttps://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/815makes the Lucilius boss fight (in "On the Threshold of Finality") more aggressive and less passive by directing the game's existing AI to chain full native attack sequences back-to-back, rather than scripting new moves. It also tweaks a data file to cap one of the fight's timers at 30 seconds
Just hit end game, ive beat all the bosses on infinity with my bots.Thinking of doing multiplayer soon but not sure dont think im good enough. I eat shit and my bots seem to out score me on every fight.Playing beatrix tanky build as I find her simple but would like to try some other easier character maybe until i learn the move sets of the bosses. any ideas?
>>579215734What bots are you using?
>>579216821Fraux, percival and caglio, built them using online guides. percival is a monster but I still feel like I shouldn’t be losing to AI.
>>579215734Believe me, there are people who are much worse. At least you seem to know the ins and outs.
>4000+ sigils in inventory and not a single decent warpath sigil system needs a fucking overhaul
>>579215734Host a lobby here.
I was just playing Siegfried and I lost my stacks
what's with the no-dot builds loading the fuck up on red sigils and picking up the 10% ATK per sigil trait? is there some secret mechanic with ATK that's only shared in the d*sc*rd parsertranny grooming dens?
>>579220265there is no such thing unless the patch fuck'd up something
>match into group full of chinks for bubs with 2 ids and a danchud>they're doing crazy tech like dropping the SBA chain at 3 and doing a single to extend how long the boss stays inactive>they're totally bodying my damage numbers but I execute everything perfectly to fit their gameplan efficiently so I think they took a liking to me>they all vote to repeat so I go along>they keep repeating over and over and I don't want to kill the vibe and am dragged into a long grind session>finally escape when one of them decides to stop>got like 20 bubs summons and not a single one is even usable
>>579221461>they're totally bodying my damage numbers but I execute everything perfectly to fit their gameplan efficiently so I think they took a liking to me"This am*rican pig dog is alright, he's one of the good ones"
>>579207616>fundamental issues with his kitPart of the reason I'm not keen on the Fediel nerf. Serviceable for some fights but then just becomes another character that misses all of their buildup on most endgame fights that refuse to stay in even a general location. I also don't like how it's basically just claw build lite. I'd rather they just make every other character stronger and feel less shit with all the chores to actually get to your damage. Or just made the damage more reliable. I don't know why some people would rather be fighting some of these shit endgame fights for longer.
>>579221461How long were you playing? That sounds like two or three hours at the very least
>>579222769we were dropping his ass in like 7 minutes every time so maybe 2 hours
>>579221461>anon came back from the bubs war and was never the same again
>>579221309>not pictured: both +10% ATK per attack sigils traits taken there's clearly some kind of start here or Mr. Seven has a DOT that i wasn't aware of. and it's not an isolated thing either. click on any build from any character and it's a 50/50 chance they're loading up on ATK for some reason even when they aren't DOT builds.
>>579225673>linked togetherYou're looking at a tranny website with people who are literally just trying to get the highest parse uploaded, no character caps SBA so it's the one thing you actually need damage sigils for
>>579225975Why is everything trannies to you
>>579226204those type of brainrotted anons use it as an adjective for thing I don't like
>>579225975damage meter says I am like 140-190% capped on SBA without ever dipping onto ATK increases depending on who else is on the party so it can't be that exclusively and SBA is like a fraction of your damage bro wtf are you talking about? do you have any videos or papers that has proof of this?
>>579225673Is that the evil forbidden website, that you are not allowed to mention on a certain discord called relink.cleista.cc ? no way how dare you.
>>579106760>>579108490i'm trying it in practice ground and can't figure out how to cancel it, both dodge and block set it on cooldownhow're you supposed to cancel it without it counting as an interruption?
i relapsed... i hopped on Pigfried again after swearing him off and got angry again i just desperately want his kit to work, bro
>>579229691link attacks and SBA also count as interruptions, for referencei know his cooldowns are separate between forms but even then that's still way too much time between misses which are common because bosses don't sit still
>>579230271When I play sigfred I just HPmaxx substitute build. Sure the DPS ceiling is lower but so is the cortisol because I can just choose not to sub during bloodthirst windows.
>>579235650staggs dropped fugg :DD
>>579229691If I remember correctly you have to let it go and immediately dodge. If you are too slow it will go on CD. It's obviously another bug and should have been fixed on week two at the latest, but here we are.
>>579217453I wouldn't sweat it much. AIs are probably above the online player median. As long as you aren't eating half or more of the crit bar on a regular basis you're good to go, and even if you are there's still a good chance of getting carried.
>>579235650oh, fug :---DDDD
Hey /gbfrg/I finally feel good about my Zeta and have started on to Gallanza and my gosh he moves so slow. Are Draphs supposed to be like this? They're so heavy. Only other Draph I played is Fediel.How do Gallanza mains play this?
>>579169656You mean /vm/, right?
>>579235650>ferry SBAs unexpectedly mid-roll >miss the input FUGGGG
>>579237989from what i can tell nobody mains gallanza herewe had like 1 or 2 goza mains but they're probably gone by now
>>579235650UWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWU
>>579237989I'm assuming you're talking about his base form ground combos, you never want to be in a situation where you have to use those.His general gameplan is>enter Deathmatch immediately for bonus damage/warpath and stay there>spam skills>if no skills available: aerial combo>if boss moves away: Deathmatch X, Martial Spear finisher, and Dashing Lancer (if you have it) are all gap closers with absurd range, Impale and Martial Spear are both ranged attacks>if stun check: cry
>>579239943
>try insight yoda >he's better at being Pigfried than Pigfriedit is so tiresome....
>>579245864>more forgiving finisher spam playstyle despite them both being "perfectionist" characters>Mirror Image is generally more useful than Damage Cut, and also helps aforementioned perfectionist characters (like Eustass and Maggie) more since you're avoiding damage entirely>Broke Soul Calibur IV back in the day with his sheer prescenceYoda is absolutely cracked and I'm tired of pretending he's not.
>>579246398I don't even know why yoda has PE mechanics added to insight because you can skip right past that by popping Perpetual Rotation and start spamming finishers immediately after a gap closer and you can also completely smudge your input and time literally none of your inputs and still go into finisher spam mode
>>579246398Mirror Image legit feels like cheating, having Yoda as a CPU is great. I should try playing him. I'm trying to stick with Sieg since he's cool but man do I suck.
Where is the content...
>>579251850October update with Grand Order, Versusia, and MugenTrust
Is Relink a good way to get into the series or do I need to play the gacha game first? This girl makes my dick diamonds
>>579252807anon she is 11....
>>579253028out of 10!
>>579252807
>>579253190>furry and yuri out of nowhere
>>579252807Nah the game story is formatted in a way to bring outsiders up to speed, although if you want to go deeper into the lore you have to pay attention to the FATE episodes which are basically story monologues for each character.Also GBF is fairly low tier in terms of games with lore, 99% of anything special is "oh it's a primal beast" and the game wiki doesn't even bother putting lore articles anywhere because most ppl play to grind their waifu/husbando
question about this mastery traitdo i still get the bonus even if the basi stat sigil is secondary? like say damage cap/stun power something like that?
>>579254932sorry forgot pic
>>579254932No, just use the filter and check all the basic sigils and you'll see
>>579254932It has to be the first skill on that sigil. That's what determines what color it is and makes it count for the passive.
>>579255095no way....so i have to redo all my sigils for my characters?
>>579255610yes you need to transmute your sigils with 5 basic hp/stun+dmg(supp dmg cap ventus fatebreaker etc.)
>>579255610Yes lolThe plus side is that stun power for example is actually useful so it's not like they are shitty slots, they are actually very high value
>>579255610sigil synth to put attack buffs secondary to your stun/hp sigils is part of the endgame grinddepending on what you have available it's always nice to have 3-5 basic stat sigils with dmg cap etc on them
Lobby?
>>579255793>>579255796>>579255896i mean yeah i have stun power but i didn't know they have to be primary. no wonder it's so hard for me to get to 300m
>>579256252host it
>>579256641OkayEXX5 VAC1 RU47 E72PPW: lobby
>>5792568692/4
>>5792568693/4
>>5792568694/4
>>579256869>already fullNyo...
>>579258004Make a second lobby
>>579258004Feel free to join again I got disconnected
3/4
>>579256869Out of bubs. Back to 3/4 from disconnect
>>579256869Back to 4/4
Just boughted Splatoon Raiders, see y'all
>>579256869ggs. That last hexa run was certainly something.
>>579256869ggs
>on proud>Can defeat Radis Whitewyrm with S rank, beat him in like 6 mins>Cannot beat Evyl BlackwyrmI can shave down his health as fast as I do Whitewyrm and yet once he starts his gay little kill everything move I can fucking not under any circumstance kill him fast enough. Wtf am I actually doing wrong? I should be able to S rank him just as easy but clearly not. Does the game actually want me to beat him in less then like 4 mins or something? It would actually be a fucking miracle if someone spent over ten mins on him and somehow STILL beat him. What am I actually doing wrong
>>579256869ggshexa was... interesting
>>579252807You can just jump right in.
>>579246398so few people play him though maybe there's some hidden flaw or maybe his skill ceiling is low
>>579263703are you saving your Full Chain or Link Time for that moment?
>>579263947Yeah. Actually I got it perfect on my last attempted, did a full chain, before he started doing the move, and then during the move got another chain, did, still couldnt get him. He was like 3% health. Link time was also during that before the last full chain.
>>579263925ojisan potato has low design appealsupportsluts want to be a cute girl like djeeta or ferry or cag
>>579263703Stun into Link Time + Full SBA chain during his DPS check is the most burst that should be expected from you and your AI party at that point in the game. I'm surprised that you can beat Radis handily but not Evyl though, I don't recall one being notably stronger than the other.If it's pre-ERagnarok content, you should still be able to buy slightly more DPS time by doing 2 half-chains instead of one full chain during the ending segment (toggle SBA on, toggle off when the second AI is mid-anim, then toggle back on once the window ends and the 2-chain explosion goes off), though I don't know if that would be enough to get you the last 3%. That missing 3% sounds like you may just need to invest into the bot party members if you haven't already, just so they can pull their weight a little more.
>>579264571I bet ojisan slept around in his heyday
infinity luci unironically feels easier than zero at this pointwhat were people complaining about lmao
>>579268339As someone who tried (and failed) to clear Zero with friends before ER came out, the stats we had back then were just hardmode; a few botched dodges and the run was over.Infinity Faa is a lot easier with our statbloat.
>>579268716I got twelve winged with fof so I was definitely cheating but even that felt harder than clearing infinity with a decent time with cpus
I crave link attacksI need them to sustain me
QUEEN AIRA OWNS THIS GENERAL
>>579264571I think he's an awkward support because shields exist in the game now and they benefit from defense whereas yoda has to willfully gimp his damage really hard to keep mirror image up for everyone and his damage is kinda lukewarm to begin with
>>579263894Rosetta is a bad influence on her
>>579280426Wait why does he gimp his damage? Is it because he wants to hold the stacks for the teamwide buff? Surely it's enough to just wait for your skill that gives you 3 stacks no?
Wyell...
>>579280426I agree to an extent, but mirror image is more value than a 99k shield against hard hits or for characters who aren't built bulky and is less grief-y for tanky builds that want to get hit by multihits to burn throughIt's not the same kind of hit to his offense that it would've been in base game either, even if you lose the mark preserving gamble insight still jumps to spamming 2-4 finishers quickly enough from nothing.
room?
are there any yodafags who can give me the ultra basic bitch rundown? got him mostly built and want to give it a try.what skills/tree/general gameplay? any specific sigils he wants outside the usual? how are his personal sigils?
>>579303871ask mr barrold perpetual rotation and hymn of the hundreds are mandatory
siete damage is kinda meh and doesn't provide any party utility... I wanna keep playing him though
owari da...
just wait for the blog post about an incoming update only for that update to be a bug fix that nerfs fun
>>579306093He deals OK damage and really nice stun, he is nimble as fuck and his warpath makes him quite durable.Problem lies in his awkward LinkTime, besides Sword Tempest, although this one has problems outside of LT.Siete really doesnt get much out of it, only real "strat" you can have with it in Fueling the Avatar comes by preparing for Link Time with full stacks IE maintaining Avatar mode by doing Avatar Finishers long. Since Link Time doesnt dismiss the Avatar you never lose your stacks and get a generous DMG dealt buff during it.Link Time TagTeam might be the worse out of the three, getting your 4+4 stacks to sync with the start of LT is painful.
gyame nyot gyood
>>579315332i feel that tag team is one of the many "what did they mean by this?" master trees in the game>you're forever stuck trying to build up your fast-eroding sandcastle 4+4 stacks if the rest of the party is good and forces the boss into spectator phases quicker >trying to get the 4stack in human form feels like you're doing literally nothing and dodge-cancel doesn't make it any faster >you FINALLY get your 4+4 and become enlightened... and the payoff is a clunkier version of sword tempest or a "we have spicier Lancelot at home" >literally no way to strategically time your 4+4 besides "oh boy i hope the boss doesn't phase change when i get the stacks up" >did cygames even think about how the entire tree interacts with link time? maybe play it once against an infinity boss? it feels like something straight out of an internal test build
Host the lobby.
>>579316595>did cygames even thinknope
>>579315332 by NOT doing Avatar Finishers for a while*
I should try out zeta but I vividly remember getting hard filtered by pogo timings
Is there a sigil planner calc or sheet or something we use?
>>579325969Sigils are rather universal with only a few variations in builds.
I'm sure this has been asked a million times, but im getting a lot of conflicting answers.For the celestial sigils.I have currently Aqua & Ventus only.Are the others worth it ultimately? I am not particularly good so i prefer to take more survivability sigils. Lumen seems good but that means i need to micromanage my hp more which sounds a bit difficult at my skill level. Terra seems like an obvious no since it reduces my HP and i prefer to stack this high since I sue ascension weapons. How is incendo? I feel like the boss is always in overdrive so it seems like a no-brainer, but is dmg cap 50% too small? Most guides seem to run a varying combo of 3 celestials so i feel by jsut having 2 im gimping myself a lot.
