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>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=67625562344521860

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

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She's in
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>can't play lash anymore even in standard because of gun metaslaves
but really its no wonder. you either do decent damage in short bursts until it falls off late game but play around cooldowns or you do insane consistent dps all the time and the only cooldown you play around is your reload. this is why as long as a hero's gun isn't dogshit the best build will ALWAYS be gun.
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Valve should add a cute lizard to deadlock.
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(you) still cannot show me anywhere in-game that says players get bonus stats for soul discrepancy on rift
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Surely the patch will come today
Surely
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>>579090615
you sound like a whiny little bitch
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>>579090974
Not an argument. Concession accepted.
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>>579090437
Sexwink
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>>579090615
it's pretty crazy, in other mobas (of which there are only 2) heroes either use their basic attack as main dps, weave it between casts, or just use it to last hit/eek out a bit of damage, but in deadlock, any and every hero can just use it as their main dps
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>>579091082
Hoodwank
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gun is better in every way, except on billy. if you arent playing spirit billy ur trolling
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ummmmmmmm deadtards? where patch?
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Wow I'm so excited for the patch, that's coming out today, and is a large content update that justifies the eight, nearly nine months spent on it.
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gun is better if youre a shitlow faggot where people just ignore you and let you shoot your gun for 40 seconds straight theres a reason everyone good at the game complains about spirit and not gun
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Yeah I'm just a fucking mind reader
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>>579090437
hoodwink instant pregnant
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I just started playing and I'm quite bad.
I can stay alive and farm in laning phase, often even coming out with a positive score, but I can't seem to carry any of that lateral movement or any upwards momentum into mid and late game. I basically turn into a bot that pushes lanes and gets targeted in team fights. At which point I'm now negative and turning into a liability.
Any tips for trying to scale and be an actual threat? Otherwise Im gonna take the support pill
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Just make it so gun heroes don't get to also do half spirit damage for free
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>>579091571
>theres a reason everyone good at the game complains about spirit and not gun
>look inside
>spirit damage from m1ggers
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>>579091627
I forgot to mention, I was actually using this Vyper's Victor weirdly enough
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Should i download the statlocker software they shill or should i just login to their website
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Delete Merc Mag
Gun amps no longer do spirit damage
Fixed, no need to thank me.
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>ranked
>enemy team gets lash dynamo wraith
>my team gets graves silver
yep gg
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>>579091884
Plugins and live trackers are lame and should be avoided
checking stats after for curiosity or improvement is fine but I'm already getting dudes who are mentally checked out or starting fights because their app shows their lane partner is on a loss streak or something
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>>579091349
patch cancelled because valve is playing leaked GTA6
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>>579091627
I forgot to mention, I was actually using this Vyper's Victor build weirdly enough
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>>579092336
I remember that time some valve youtube channel went online by mistake and it was a bro streaming mario 64
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>>579092525
hmm well actually it might have been a OoT randomizer, I don't recall
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>>579092336
>but only shitskin 3rd worlders play gta?
>remember yoshi is Arab
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>>579091349
Game is dead. Yoshi decided the game is unviable and is playing Marvel Rivals instead.
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>>579093108
It's more fun if you're solo queuing tbqh
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>>579091349
It's today. You just need to have a little faith
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This look okay?
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>>579093468
is it fun? apparently you can't even crouch in MR
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>>579091762
Find farm on the map to hit your timings/power spikes and turn that into your momentum. I've had a number of games where I've lost lane hard but managed to recover and play around my timings/my team's timings and won handedly in the end.
I'm talking about hitting your 4.8k spikes when you should, getting crucial items right before a rift fight or a walker push, playing around ults/a pick for midboss, etc. Every moba is tempo-based more than anything else and Deadlock is no exception; it may take a bit to understand what the tempo you need to play for is so don't get discouraged if it feels like you're floundering.
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>>579091349
Some anon is about to get a BIG surprise on his keyboard by the end of the day!
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>>579093638
metal skin should be optional
always buy trophy if there's 2 other dpsfag hyperfarmers on the team
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>>579093705
True no crouch, it's just going gorilla and fighting the whole time. And since there's no builds they just die if you can aim.
Not good for a main game, but as a little sugary treat it's a good time
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>>579093638
all the good ivys I've seen run vortex web and mystic reverb. echo shart stone form is also strong, but that might be a piss around type build/option
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Am i schizo or is half of brick just filled with actual smurfs?
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>>579080801
Press 4 and you will kill everything.
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>feedback used to get dozens of views by the devs, sometimes even a response from yoshi
>now 100% of my feed back sits at 0 views for months and months
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>>579094374
Yeah I've moved metal skin into optional. Now I'm kind of stuck wondering am I better served by taking Siphon Bullets into Transcendant CD so I can increase the frequency of Siphon and Capacitor or do I prioritise Spiritual Overflow to buff my Capacitor first?
>>579094494
Reverb is kinda underwhelming. Echo Shard build kinda got fucked with. Something like 0.6s shaved off the combo. You still stun for like 3.5s but idk I'd probably rather just curse someone after that. Web is incredible on her though you're right.
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>>579094992
playtest is too big.
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is this the perfect billy build?
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>>579095245
No
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is this the perfect goyle build?
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>>579095582
Just buy curse at this point. 50% more useful and 100% cheaper
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>>579093720
I'm scared of the camps they are ugly creatures
Also what's with everything inting into my guardian all the time
Back off retards
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>mina buys dispel
>now unkillable
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>>579095582
Buy Capacitor
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>>579095761
tend to go hex nova aura web myself and round it off with either a curse or ab. echo was the go to but I think curse is just better now. ab has some of the flavour of what echo used to do and it's a handy follow up into dispels to keep a group of people locked down if they dispel web. It's also up way more. it's fun, but curse is probably just always superior.
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>>579091349
Patch is obviously today, it's only a matter of time.
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>>579095897
I was playing against some mina fag recently and he actually gloated about me missing a spell on him when he gets to quantum 3x. Like there's no way these people think they're good right?
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>>579096389
mina, pocket, paradox players are all like this
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>>579096389
wait until you play against one of these faggot pocket players
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>>579096341
it's obvious they're crunching but that doesn't guarantee shit, no deadlines at valve and yoshi was probably away watching TI
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>>579093638
Rushing tesla and Capacitor too soon. I know every Ivy will advocate doing nothing for 8 minutes while you farm tesla but if you go titanic mag, opening rounds, weakening headshot for your 4.8k spike you'll have a much stronger early game. You can still pickup Tesla later and upgrade to crippling headshot which will reduce spirit resist to benefit your tesla bullets.
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Mina and Pocket should have negative debuff resistance, any character that has a built-in invuln should.
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>>579097529
i might be tweaking but i think mina already does
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Why does Pocket have -15% spirit resist but Mina doesn't?
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>>579096389
>>579096737
>>579096895
I play all three of them and know they're aids unkillable. Usually I end up with four actives since entire enemy team is trying to counter me. Gut affliction already please God.
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>>579096737
Do NOT compare paradox to those niggers ever again.
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>>579097529
Mina does have -8% debuff res
Pocket also has -15% spirit res
It's just not enough
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They told me not to play mina as a newbie but I tried her and she's not that complicated
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>whole team is up
>enemy team is 1 down
>we push mid to contest midboss
>Vindicta ignores team fight to go push side lane to enemy base
>team gets wiped
>lose
What compels people to play like this.
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anyone ever noticed this weird bug where time seems to slow down in replays or in sandbox? I've never experienced it in an actual game but it's like it exponentially gets slower and slower over time. no idea what triggers it.
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>>579098131
>forcing mid with only one pick
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>>579098034
deadlock discourse is dictated by a lot of zoomer streamers and "pros" with dumb opinions
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>>579098034
The only niggas you shouldn't pick immediately on your first game if you like their cut are Viscous and Sinclair
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>>579098034
the only character you shouldn't play is doorman and that's because he's buggy as shit
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>>579098034
If you pick Mina as your first hero it betrays that you are a gacha obsessed gooner who probably has League installed on his pc.
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>>579098131
>my team standing around a guy
>I use my shit on him
>my team still just stands around staring from behind corners
>guy eventually gets help like 10s later
>I get gang raped and die
>my team decides NOW is the perfect time to join the fight
what compels every russian to play like this? is this why they can't take over ukraine irl?
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>>579098034
she isn't complicated at all it's just with how low her hp is it's entirely possible to just eat shit if you aren't used to playing around that
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If people here regularly seethe about gun as is, I can't imagine what a meltdown this general will have whenever a balance patch makes it actually good.
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>>579098946
probably a gwyndolin callback
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>>579098946
what did you expect retard? he puts one in nearly every game
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>>579098660
>Viscous
I did try him too and it was a shit show lmao
Now that I've seen a couple do their thing I could probably do alright with him I bet.
>>579098668
>Doorman
Yeah hard pass anyway. Weird gimmick to deal with a buggy femboy.
>>579098474
>>579098839
>>579098883
I do have league installed on my pc. But I haven't booted it up since March. Mina seems more scrubby to me if anything.
I ended up grinding with seven to get the feel of things and I think it was a safe choice. Too safe.
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>>579098946
Gay lil nigga fell for the trap lmao
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>>Victor
>The Lash
seven

game gives me seven
How? I hate playing Seven, he sucks
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>>579098946
they saw how much the internet loved miquella (not ingame version) and wanted to make a proper one for them
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when are they adding an anthro fox witch character that's vyper tier obsessed with billy
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>>579099296
Then don't queue someone you hate
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>>579099213
>I have league installed

welcome to the botnet
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>>579098946
based
Deadlock needs a trap hero
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>lanes against you
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>>579099415
I only have 4 characters in ranked and my only other third option is Nigfernus and Im even worse with him
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>enemy team has a full ult seven
>ally team does not want to just wait out the storm and slaughter his team after their biggest threat puts himself on cooldown for the next two minutes
>ally team dies because they are all fighting in seven ult
it's all so tiring boss
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>>579099434
My data is theirs to goon to
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>>579099552
>Nigfernus
Where's the autist that says he isn't black pls be in here
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>>579099559
>enemy team has seven, dynamo, lash ult up
>UHHHH EVERYONE COME COME COME EVERYONE COME
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>>579099371
>>579099268
>>579099103
>>579099150
>Deleted
What the fuck did he say?
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>>579099552
Infernus isn't black, he's Ixian.
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>>579099760
Don't worry about it, wasn't meant for you. Life's beauty is in how ephemeral it is.
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>>579099760
just an off topic fromsoft post
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>>579099787
He's black
Not honorary black, black black. Cornrows and soulfood black
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Will deadlock 2 still be a deathball meta?
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>>579099213
>I ended up grinding with seven to get the feel of things and I think it was a safe choice.
yeah seven is a decent first pick if you want to play hypercarries
he farms real fast, has a simple kit, and notably doesn't have a get out of jail free card unlike many other carries so you actually kind of have to think about where you stand
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>>579098034
Mina is extremely easy to play since she has 2 teleports that also make her invincible as well as a stupid free movement passive with the umbrella. She's not hard to play at all, she's still quite OP.
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>>579090615
>buys 2-3 gun items
>spends 90% of his gameplay doing the lash combo
>is considered a gun character

You people have gone full retard haven't you?
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>>579100521
Deadlock 2 is Fall Guys, all the characters have themed beach balls they can throw at each other instead of guns
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>>579090615
Just fly around the map and on top of buildings? People in standard only look up 40% of the time and even then they can't aim well enough to hit you since you're so fast
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Why are my teammates always so aggressive about wanting me to throw myself into the meat grinder as seven?
I stand back (since I don't have an escape ability) and shoot, throw a ball out and ult when its a teamfight. What more do they want?
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>>579078478
im glad people still like this image
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>>579100626
don't forget it becomes 3 teleports!!
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YOSHI WHERE IS IT
YOSHIIIIIIIII
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Confess your Deadlock sins
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if the game is still going after 60 minutes make every item enhanced and half price
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>>579101162
the trouble with seven is that he requires farm and he gets bullied in the early mid game by basically everything. he really needs to just be left alone to get EE and some resists at least.
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>>579098034
She teaches you bad habits because she can escape from anything unless you hard cc her.
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does reverb really need 40% speed reduction? getting hit with a mile wide doorman bell and then just not being able to move is miserable
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>>579101534
you're supposed to dispel it
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>>579101534
no enduring speed?
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>>579101314
I have literally 0 interest in playing 90% of the heroes in the game
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>>579101634
based m1gger
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>>579101314
I am the 20k player damage Infernus/Haze/Wraith at the end of a 40 min game
The thing is, it never feels that way until I see the end screen, it always feels like I'm doing a lot
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>>579101616
unfortunately i have to dispel the 4 DoTs/silences hitting me as well
>>579101625
only really works if its a single slow, unfortunately this game had a kelvin and mo with mystic slow as well
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>have you tried spending 20k on counter items
>also look at this faggot who only did 20k damage in a 40 minute game

This game is cool and I like it's design. Why don't you just fuck my wife while you're at it
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>>579096389
All the streamers said ahe is super hard to play and has a high skill floor LMFAO
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>>579101314
I only play this game because I can call my teammates slurs in voice.
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>>579099513
>Quality of life cheats
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>>579101634
That's normal because like 75% of the characters in the game are unplayable when characters like Celeste and Pocket exist that can do literally everything with 0 downsides.
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>>579101534
The hue mungus radius speed reduction is the main reason to buy reverb tbhdesubeit
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mmm
ranked
mmm
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>>579102294
why did you save this screenshot of me
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>>579102537
I save every screenshot that has the word nigger in it.
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Why does a 150$ starter paintball gun shoot 3x further than the guns in this game? Why don't we just have actual melee characters instead?
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>>579100628
>90% of his gameplay doing the lash combo
>he doesn't know that it's actually 90% of flying through the air with infinite charges of Lash's 2 and THEN he does the Lash combo for as much damage as spirit Lash because it scales with height
>oh and Lash has 4.5k HP from Syphon as well
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>>579102659
Because realistic ballistics gameplay has never and will never be fun in a video game.
>see enemy from 500m away
>1 tap them before they can react
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why are queue times so awful dude
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>>579103103
we're working lil zoom zoom
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>>579094962
um but his 4 only heals everything
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>>579103103
>Beg Yoshit to split Standard and Ranked
>Why queue times bad?
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>>579103093
Ah yes, but getting Dynamo waved or Splattered from across the lane for 800+ spirit burn + reverb is cool and good
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>>579102659
>Why does a 150$ starter paintball gun shoot 3x further than the guns in this game?
Who cares?
>Why don't we just have actual melee characters instead?
Because that's boring as fuck and this is a shooter.
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if mirage is on your team you're essentially down a player
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>>579103103
It's work hours nigga
Get a job
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>>579097682
Gay fag debuff
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Its crazy how hard abrams has mindbroken some of you
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>>579102454
just buy web at that stage if that's what you care about.
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>>579103370
In other words
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>>579102659
Cause close quarters combat is way more fun and interesting
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>>579103406
Ratlow take
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>>579103473
Reverb is spammable with a 6 second cooldown while Vortex has a 40 second cooldown.
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>>579103406
mirage actually RAPES people late game but he has to get there first
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yoshi just started typing 2 times on discord, dude's fucking trolling now
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>>579103626
he literally does nothing but cry about his late game potential. he's fucking worthless
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Make transcendent cooldown reduce everything by 30% so it stops being a meme item you play buy in 40+ minutes games
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kill all valve devs
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>>579103910
Nah, that is kind of funny.
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>>579103910
AAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>579103910
>Pizza
oh my keks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YMPWDytYGY
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>>579103910
LMAO

SEE YOU CUNTS IN A MONTH
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>>579103910
>playtesting
nigger WE ARE THE PLAYTESTERS
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>>579103910
>late september
>we're still in august
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>>579103910
LMAO
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>>579103910
More proof the item update will make mokrill GOD tier
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>>579103910
Thank god, now I can just uninstall and wait for War Dogs and by the time the patch comes out I'll have not played enough recently to even care to come back. Into the trench it goes

Actually a huge favor, thank you for setting me free
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>>579104147
do you want them to remove each item 4 times while they iterate on it? most of the playerbase wouldn't
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>>579103910
>late septem- i mean decem- i mean january
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>>579103910
>The regular process of playtesting and iteration taking longer than expected
WE ARE PLAYTESTERS
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>>579103910
Back to brool
Imagine playing standard lol
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>>579103910
"late september" means late october or even november for valve btw
AND he probably means the ITEM update and not the proper hero update as well
this is what you people get for trusting these retards to properly deliver shit
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>>579104254
yes, it would be better than this stagnant slop we've been playing for the whole year
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>>579103910
GIVE IT UP FOR 9 MONTHS OF MICRONERFS THANK YOU ICEFRAUD I MEAN YOSHI
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>>579104254
read very carefully the message that first props up when you open the game from a fresh install again
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>throught no fault of my own, suffer a crash mid ranked match
>cannot rejoin
>elo stolen
Thanks Yoshi! Very neato!
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>>579104254
You're the problem with modern gaming. Slurp up shit, want everything to esports. Kill all zoomers
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>>579103910
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BRO EVERY FUCKING GAME ON THE PLANET IS COMING OUT LATE SEPTEMBER I CANT FUCKING DO THIS
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>>579104597
erm your missing elo doesn't matter cause this is a playtest
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>>579102651
i can hear it in his voice
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>>579104303
Nah everyone melted down over urn and shit
We're not playtesters and haven't been for over a year, this is the live build.
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>>579103910
I TOLD YOU NIGGERS
NOT UNTIL OCTOBER
LATE SEPT MY ASS YOU KNOW VALVE TIME IS IN EFFECT
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Im extremely sexually frustrated which is why i really want to fuck Holliday
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>>579103910
This is fake right? I refuse to believe it.
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>>579104449
>>579104590
he's right you know
>>579104753
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>>579104796
mid october for item update as a "haha halloween guys!!! grind these stupid masks!!!!!!!!" update
december just before they leave for vacation again for actual content hero update IF WE'RE LUCKY
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free game quit bitching, and get a job
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>>579104753
In hindsight inviting every Russian on Earth into the playtest was a bad idea
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>>579104147
no, you're the free advertising and metrics, not the real playtesters
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>>579104753
yeah nigger, people gave feedback thats what playtesters do and guess what? it brought change.
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>>579103910
Honestly at this point i'm just glad we got a reply. Seriously if they knew the update is still a ways away they could have said something before the community reached peak insanity like it did right now. Knowing not to expect anything is better than hoping for something that isn't coming
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>We're not getting the item update until late sept(actually October because of valve time)
>Then we have to wait for the CONTENT update that might not come until late jan because valve vacation
I'm going to fucking lose it
HOW SMALL IS THIS JANK ASS DEV TEAM
IT IS 10 GUYS, A JANITOR AND SOME HIRED MODDER???
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>>579104753
nigga IMAGINE if the urn update went live as a proper feature that wasn't going to be removed and reworked for at least a year
people were complaining because it was rightfully called out as a dogshit, dogshit objective whose earlier implementation was better even if still SUPER flawed.
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>>579105278
Hopoo keeps flooding the zone with shit and we have to waste time cleaning up after him please understand.
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it wouldnt be so bad if the games balance wasnt in the absolute gutter for months and they refuse to actually address it
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>>579105278
would you rather have them release it now and its buggy or breaks the game?
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>>579105430
yes
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>>579105430
yes
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>>579105430
yes nigger
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>>579105278
people in this very general were calling out how obvious it was that the dev team was having trouble coming up with hero kits as soon as within the first months of the private invites going out to the general public
that problem never went away, they just tried to hide behind powercreeping the fuck out of their new heroes and even then you still run into their kits being either fairly generic or completely unbalanceable by this developer team. gee it's almost as if mobas and hero shooters don't mesh well who would've thunk it
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>>579105278
It's pretty obvious the major update is the one being referred to here. Item update will come afterwards
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>>579103434
Its after 5 in the EU moron -_- its eight pm here
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>>579105576
>>579105573
>>579105531
and what is your opinion on doorman bugs?
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>>579105430
I legit wouldn't mind, this is a playtest I expect jank assuming it doesn't have shit that crashes or bricks your computer
The game is already in a scuffed state to begin with, you think its bad now then enjoy a WHOLE FUCKING MONTH OF FAGGOTS ABUSING INFINITE MOVESPEED WARDEN
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>>579104693
Name five.
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>>579105705
I literally do not care its a fucking playtest
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THIS NIGGA CRYING
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>>579105651
think they'll just end up rolling them into one update at this point
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>>579105705
the issue with doorman isnt the bugs, its the fact they havnt fixed said bugs SINCE HIS FUCKING RELEASE. DUMB NIGGER DEVS
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>drifter is killing everything
>teammates never want to jump him they just all run away when they see him
>he goes on a constant kill streak
standard is so trash man
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>>579105632
if they put in something crazy you will melt down about it, if they put in something basic you will melt down about it, the smart thing is to ignore you completely right

>>579105780
even people in this general don't treat it like a playtest
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Hehehehehe funny buggy jerma character
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>>579105067
>do nothing but yell and complain
>"feedback"
Retard alert
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>>579101314
I'm beginning to enjoy being toxic in games, especially in standard. If you're slightly rude to me I will start trolling you
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>>579105430
People are all going to say yes right now because they're pissed but the reality is that the vast majority of people (non-4chan using weirdos like us) do not, in fact, want incomplete content in the game. They don't want game-breaking bugs, they don't want items and heroes that haven't been properly playtested, and they don't want placeholder assets. People here can moan about it all they want, the reality is that we haven't been the playtest for some time now. This is being treated like an early access live service game and that's how the vast majority of the community sees it.
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>>579105743
fire emblem, onimusha, dawn of war 4, control resonant, ace combat 8
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>>579105430
>BUT MY POLISH
sinclair and vyper are literally still there, silver reuses animations for 90% of her abilities and movement. grey talon and yamato still use their 4 year old neon prime models, the map is still littered with half life mike wazoiwski rejects

>BUT MY BALANCE
there has NEVER been a single month in which this game didn't have at least 5 heroes that were hitler tier with the rest lagging behind and several few being straight away throw picks. with a game with hero kits as relatively simple as this and a roster this small that's a big fucking deal. same with items

adding new shit even if it's broken literally wouldn't matter because that's just the state the game always is. the reason people don't usually complain about it is because they have the wool over their eyes that "constant updates" means it'll fixed eventually (it won't) and without them the rose tint just starts wearing off. why do you think so many people straight up leave?
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>>579105934
>le meltdown
there is literally nothing wrong with telling the devs in your closed alpha playtest that an addition or change is dogshit. thats the whole point of playtesting
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im gonna fucking krill myself
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8 months for this
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>>579105430
The issues is not that Valve is waiting 8+ months in order to properly program an update that won't break the game, it's that they are waiting 8+ months autisticly adjusting everyone hero's numbers over and over and over and over in a fucking CLOSED BETA.
JUST RELEASE NEW CONTENT. I DO NOT CAER THAT CELESTE HAS 0.005 MORE SCALING ON HER ULT THAN SHE SHOULD, I CARE THAT THE GAME ISN'T FUCKING FINISHED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>579103910
>late september at best
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bless deadlock for fixing dota's biggest mistake: having no good porn or bitches to compete with lol
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>>579106115
>sinclair and vyper are literally still there

and people bitch and moan they are unfinished, so why add more unfinished heroes because jobless neets don't have anything else to do?

>balance

didn't even bring it up, but this general melts down over their waifu heroes being weak more than meta whining
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>>579105705
the ones in the live game you mean? that you'd think wouldn't be there because they're delaying updates to fix that shit in the first place?
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>>579105973
Yoshi actually said this btw
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>>579106214
Hope you guys are happy that so much dev resources are being wasted for a gimmick mode no one will play after a week or so
we probably would have had the update already if these retarded faggot devs focused on the main mode 90% of people play instead of trying to attract a casual crowd that will never come.
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>>579100628
>stomping ever as gun lash
why would you do this? you do more damage in two bursts and now you're on the ground in front of the enemy its not worth it at all. by the time you max out stomp for it to be worth it your gun will be doing magnitudes more damage
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reminder that streamers are the reason we aren't playing the unfinished version and helping develop the game more intimiately
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>>579106315
and this is a whole other issue. heres a thought finish one project before starting on another, but i know thats hard ask for the aspie ADHD rejects working on this game like hotpoo
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>>579105934
>if they put in something crazy you will melt down about it
not really. i asked for doorman, i'm fine with him in the game. i mained victor and graves since they came out even if it was obvious the vast mayority of the playerbase would complain about their kits (rightfully so with victor's he was busted for a year straight and his kit even if it fits the character is a balancing nightmare), the problem is that they're appealing to two very different playerbases with this game and they decided to go middle of the road instead of choosing either moba or hero shooter. the end result is this unbalancing mess with very bland yet powercrept kits
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>>579106304
They're adding Hoodwink in the next patch.
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>>579106528
you didn't have to join the invite beta, did you?

>>579106546
you're complaining about bland kits but then admit you play 3d skeleton king?
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>>579106616
The real hoodwink was all the patches we didn't get along the way
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>>579106546
Based victor abuser
I don't think he's that much of a problem honestly, as people get better they will just learn the easy trick of not standing in his aura.
I would take a enemy victor everytime compared to shit that has ZERO counterplay like gun lash or the new movespeed warden.
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>>579106315
>so why add more unfinished heroes because jobless neets don't have anything else to do?
And if Valve had demonstrated that they were actively working on fixing these unfinished heroes, or adding new assets to the map, or making meaningful additions to the game other than literal number adjustments people wouldn't be so mad.
Instead we waited over half a year to receiving nothing of value other than a new rank system in a game that isn't even released yet.
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>>579106684
and you didn't have to post on this board like a faggot contrarian devil's advocate but here we are, aren't we?
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>>579103910
I seriously doubt the update is going to be any good.
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>>579106767
isn't that what they are working on?

>>579106782
>expecting valve time delays
>YOU ARE A FAGGOT CONTRARIAN FOR ANTICIPATING VALVE TIME DELAYS

I think it's an IQ issue
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I hope the game moves to PVE in time, it has no bright future as it is right now.
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>>579106315
>and people bitch and moan they are unfinished
if people complaining about it is a problem then why are they gatekeeping their model reworks? i know it results in shit like tourist viscous having a public outcry but you can't look at me in the eye and tell me that idea was good in the first place, not with THAT implementation. they've had 2 to 4 years to make remodels and in some cases we know of some that were made and just never implemented live like with vypers, so clearly they don't really care about people playing the live branch not liking the wip models.
so i ask again; what's the issue with new heroes being added like these? it hasn't stopped them once, even in the last hero update, Apollo had half his animations CLEARLY unfinished (he still does btw) and silver is right fucking there.
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>>579106214
What is this a l4d map?
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>>579106914
>thinking time delays are the core of the issue
yup a clear IQ issue
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>>579106951
The main game mode is genuinely not fun at all since it's just a snowball shitfest and 75% of the characters are not playable due to horrendous balance.
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>>579106984
seems more like a tower defense thing like mvm
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>>579107018
uninstall deadlock and come back at release? rub some brain cells together bro
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If this new update doesn't have
>More than 6 new heroes
>Rework and new models for all the WIP unfinished heroes
>Jungle rework
>Serious game changing map improvements
>GOOD NEW ITEMS that are fun and give heroes like Silver more options instead of having single build that's the exact same for 99% of non troll builds.
Then i might just uninstall
ZERO. FUCKING. EXCUSE.
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>>579106304
Not a porn game
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this is a playtest and the devs want feedback BUT if you leave negative feedback you're just having a melty and the devs should ignore you
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>just uninstall
not responding anymore, your brain doesnt function properly
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>>579107121
No you won't, you're just throwing a temper tantrum. You'll just play like usual.
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>>579107076
>Moba adds a tower defense mode, perhaps defending an ancient.
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>>579107121
>silver player

please uninstall, I beg you
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>>579106914
>isn't that what they are working on?
I don't know what they're working on because Valve refuses to post any news about any progress whatsoever, and all we receive is number adjustments to keep us tied over.
For all we know this magic "content update" is just going to be ANOTHER roster-wide number adjustment. I do not care if they unnerf Silver, or bring problem heroes in line; I care that Holiday's gun is an untextured rectangle, that GT/Yam have models from 4 years ago, that all the jungle creeps share the same model and that there are still parts of the map that look like default Source maps.
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genuinely kill all valve devs i am not even kidding lazy fucks
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>>579106684
>you're complaining about bland kits but then admit you play 3d skeleton king?
i like unique kits and abilities that aren't just grenade spam and m1/general movement shit yes. victor (ideally, at least) has both the revive alongside having to manage you doing damage to yourself as well as the enemy. it is sad but within deadlock's roster that IS a fairly unique hero kit. if it were up to me we would've had shit like a spiderman hero or a cho'gall years ago but the devs had to be blasted for a year straight to add something as simple as doorman instead, and then proceeding to butcher his gimmick at every single oportunity for a year straight.
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>>579107065
i actually think its the opposite problem where 95% of the cast is broken in some way but the top 10% are so broken they leave the others behind. its how we end up in patch cycles where one of the 10% gets nerfed and then someone immediately takes their place with no changes (or even gets buffs).
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so you're telling me I'm not a playtester in a closed alpha game? Maybe that person saying there is deadlock 2 wasn't lying...
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>/dlg/ surprised doing nothing but screeching about Urn, Silver, Graves and other changes means the devs are less likely to push things to live
You reap what you sow.
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>>579103910
with all the recent rumors about the scale of the update (ranging from map rework, jungle rework, lane rework etc) im really excited for what this will bring along with the item update i hope it will be basically a new version of deadlock. really excited for this.
I hate the reddit onions community that is screeching i mean look at tf2 or cs those are games that have such a great base they work fine without constant updates just chillax something huge is coming in a month.
meanwhile im gonna get ready to grind ranked the whole night got my frozen pizza im ready for some chill gamin
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>>579107310
If they just came out and said "hey 75% of the dev team was busy working on the Dota 2 update, sorry this has taken so long here's a teaser of what we're implementing" people wouldn't be so far up their ass.
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why are infernus players SO STUPID
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>>579107437
I like victor, but the meat of his gameplay is literal W + M1, I don't know what to say knowing that you're complaining about bland kits but then say that.

>spiderman hero

gun lash is right there, do you want another lash right now?
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>>579103910
PLAYTESTING IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE ALPHA GAME BUILT FOR PLAYTESTING


HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>579107520
Deadlock 1 is feature complete. We are moving to Deadlock 2. There is much precedent for this in Valve's history.
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No one is going to take your shitty bait so stop.
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>push shit onto playtest
hey this actually sucks can you change it
>"REEEEEE WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING ITS AN ALPHA BETA OMEGA YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO NOT CRYYYYYY I WILL NEVER HEAR ABOUT THIS AGAIN"
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Deadcock
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>>579107646
there literally isnt a single tank who isnt w+m1
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>>579107554
Shut up nigger. Sucking the dev's cock and spamming "its just le beta guys" is not the only type of feedback you can give. We are allowed to not like things.
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>>579107456
>introduce Hero Labs as a way to test unfinished hero kits with the understanding that their models are complete garbage
>have some actual polished models like Raven in there as well
>abandon the whole thing and never implement any of the ideas you tested
I cannot imagine it's hard to make finished models/assets for Slork and the like and release them into the standard roster, at least not "this takes more than 8 months to do" hard.
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>>579107554
>do NOT say ANYTHING negative about the game you are PLAYTESTING
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I've been expecting late october this entire time so I guess I'm the only person pleased to see late september, kek

>>579107845
billy and abrams aren't M1, they are built around melee
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>>579107850
>>579107856
If you had been constructive and useful they would've still felt the need to get help from you guys
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>>579107646
Nah you're retarded, his dying gimmick rewards good deaths. If you aren't getting good ults then you're useless.
He's tactical inting personified and that makes him cool even if his basic gameplan is just hold w key.
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New elo abuse is out
https://youtu.be/6xTV5LtFJDw
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reminder to the tf2fags infesting this general that your game only got updates because hats blew up, feature complete since 2007 btw, most tranny game in existence and its not even close
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>>579107554
>this is a closed invite-only beta, please leave feedback on the forums
>no, we will not read the feedback you leave us
>no, we will not keep in contact with the community
>no, we will not produce meaningful updates to the game
>yes, Icefrog will pointless adjust every hero's numbers every month instead and affect no real change to the game
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>>579107952
no shit, it's 3d skeleton king. yet, his base micro gameplay is literal W+M1. I'm not opposed to victor at all and I'm a giant advocate for dota ports.
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>>579103910
>9 months no content update
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>>579107919
Its not my job to be constructive. Players are the worst people you can ask to fix problems. Its my job to not like things and Yoshi's job to make it better.
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>>579106743
he's fine now yes, but even so it took the devs removing things i would've considered central to his hero kit before like the cleanse on his 2. and i'd bet as the playerbase gets better he will move more and more to dumpster tier as well because of it like you've mentioned. that's what makes him really REALLY hard to balance, he's either completely busted or a throwpick and most people will always find him annoying to go against because it will never feel good when you almost kill someone only for them to revive for full health or hit one ability and recover 50% of your hp out of nowhere. this is a fundamental problem with the hero shooter and moba mix that simply cannot be fixed imo

>I would take a enemy victor everytime compared to shit that has ZERO counterplay like gun lash or the new movespeed warden.
i agree but that's just a clear example of how powercrept the game has been and how the devs have lost sight of what their heroes are supposed to be in the first place. you know shit's fucked when lash uses his stomp mainly for movement while doing damage with his gun and when warden chases people down instead of locking them down and tanking shit.
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anons in this thread for some reason when you tell hotpoo his work sucks
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>>579101314
I think Kelvin is fun.
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>>579107989
Isn't this guy like ritualist or something
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>>579106074
normgroids dont understand this is in active development and understand the high standards valve has for their products they are happy with the product and want liveservice sloppa shit are riotbabs and dont know how to refine a game
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>>579108082
>this is a fundamental problem with the hero shooter and moba mix that simply cannot be fixed imo

you are extremely short sighted and I bless the sky you are not in charge of valve
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>1 month for shit pve update
>2-3 months for 2 new items
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>>579108073
that would not be considered playtesting
you are unable to do anything productive with the autistic screeching of hundreds of thousands, that's why they took the people who gave well articulated constructive criticism and gave them access to the real playtest
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>wait for update
>its going to giga suck anyways
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>>579106914
>it's fine when valve does it


>>579107646
>W + M1
when you're fed or the hero is unbalanced towards being op, yes. otherwise there should (in theory) be this kiting game with the enemy where you try to close the game and stay on them, with them trying to leave or burst you when you're low hp before you recover your health. this almost has never been the case though since he's been unbalanced for most of his lifespan and most people simply didn't adapt to playing against him
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1 MORE MONTH OF GRANDMA TALON AND ALIEN YAMATO AND KELVIN RESKIN VISCOUS LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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I'm such a rapecel tunnel pilled mokrillcel
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>>579103910
>regular process of playtesting
So, what are we? Regular players? Nigga this game ain't even released yet!!!!!
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>>579107646
>gun lash
>spiderman hero
nigga you got to be retarded. a character that has a jump ability tied to entities and that stays at the sky ceiling shooting shit is not the same AT ALL to a close range one that uses a swing ability and wall tied to the enviroment to get around and close the gap
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>>579107121
>GOOD NEW ITEMS that are fun and give heroes like Silver more options instead of having single build that's the exact same for 99% of non troll builds
I hope they go for this. Build variety is kinda dead and one meta build just dominates. I feel like in dota its way more versatile.
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>>579108465
I already told you I understand how victor/skeleton king works, but you were the one whining about "bland kits", so you need to define what you want. do you want dota ports that are suited for deadlock? then I agree with you. do you want new heroes that play uniquely from other heroes? then I'm with you. apollo, celeste, venator, graves, REM, do not play like the rest.
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>>579108017
except it got 4 updates before hats even existed obsessed retard tranny
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Deadsock
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOOOOORNING I FUCKING HATE INFERNUS PLAYERS
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>>579107907
>they are built around melee
>their most succesful builds are almost always spirit aoe shit or gun burst in the case of abrams
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>579108749
That's racist
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>>579108293
I laughed
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>>579108656
silver is such a good example because like half of the item shop is straight up unuseable on her
>Wow, stalker into hunter's aura? Real original
>Let me guess, you want locket and two shielding items for your 4.8k health spike
>Slowing hex and Duration? Stunning choice sir!
Its all the same shit EVERY, SINGLE, BUILD
No spirit silver is not real fuck off
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Overwatch won
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>>579109337
Many are thinking this.
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New Ivy kino just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YMPWDytYGY
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>log in to duo with friend
>"By the way apparently there's an update coming today ! Or tomorrow depending on timezone"
>"Where did you read this ?"
>"Many streamers I saying this"
>mfw
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>>579109013
>No spirit silver is not real fuck off
She is real to me
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>>579109337
you mean overwatch 2?
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>>579109628
no its just called overwatch now
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Imagine being the guy who said the patch is going to be on Friday, how embarrassing :3c
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>>579109759
Guy who said I was gonna shit on his keyboard here.
I just came back from shitting on keyboard.
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>>579108068
>I'm a giant advocate for dota ports.
You could probably make 3-4 good hero kits using ONLY Dota abilities without overlapping any of the current heroes.
>New hero: [Name]
>Design: Spooky green ghost lady, floats over the ground. Spirit support/semi-carry, similar function to Graves
>Ability 1: Creates a wave of ghosts that walk forward, dealing damage when they contact an enemy. Lasts a few seconds.
>Ability 2: Creates an obelisk that tethers one nearby hero. Cannot escape from the obelisk while tethered. Two heavy melees break the obelisk, otherwise lasts X seconds.
>Ability 3: Creates illusionary copies of nearby enemies which follow them and deal constant light melee hits
>Ability 4: AoE ring that has circling spoopy ghosts on the edge. Getting hit by 1 silences you, sitting in the middle slows you/deals spirit damage. Ghosts block bullets.
All of these are just ports of Dota abilities with a Deadlock flavor. You could churn out a half-dozen of these kits a day if you really wanted to and workshop them over the week. Instead Valve is content to sit on their ass and autistically design/scrap heroes over and over just because Icefrog doesn't like their "vibes"
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>closed beta playtest
>no content updates for 8 months because actually there's an even more secretive even more closed beta playtest branch where development actually happens
Valve is so fucking weird
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>>579108232
>you are extremely short sighted and I bless the sky you are not in charge of valve
by all means do tell how you fix that shit
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>>579108656
>I feel like in dota its way more versatile.
Dota is even worse
>Are you a pos 1 carry? Better build BKB
>Pos 3? Lotus Orb/other Aura buffs
>Pos 4? Glimmer Cape, barriers for your pos 1
>Pos 5? Wards, nothing else because Dota economy is retarded
Be sure to save 5k at any given time for Buyback + tip!
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>>579109839
no you didn't
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>>579108658
>it's not mechanically complex so it's inherently bland
bait or mental retardation
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>>579110139
The "closed beta playtest" was only a couple hundred people max, we're only playing the game rn and it has a Steam page because Uncle Dane leaked it.
Probably wouldn't even be announced today and we'd still be spamming "Valve has stopped making games".
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Um... Yoshi? Where is the Yamato model rework?
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Valve moved the deadlock team over to half life 3 to finish it up, sorry guys.
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I am not reaching eternus this season stuck in this dogshit meta
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>>579110139
>Hey so one of our secret playtesters had a meltie because this wasn't a 1:1 port of TF2 and leaked everything
>Whelp we can't contain it, just let every random fucker off the street in and make an even SECRETER playtest with blackjack and hookers
>Genius, you've done it again Icefrog
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>>579091349
Trust the plan. Patch soon, bros.
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So they've fused the Item and Content update together? Or will it be late Sept -> item update and 8th Oct -> content update ?
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>>579110152
but dahtoleong play so much off meta and wonky shit and it works out at the highest rank
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>>579108658
>celeste
aoe spam whose unique passive was lifted from holliday's kit
>apollo
nu-yamato
>graves
fair but raped by balance and the community wants her remove cause of her kit
>venator
m1 guy
>rem
this one is your one right pick
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>>579110353
I was in the old old beta though
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>>579103910
@grok is this real?
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>>579109716
I know
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>>579110552
seemingly its fused together, that makes the most sense anyway
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>>579109424
peak deadlock
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>>579109424
>Haha i made the two fan favorite characters do a funny dance and i animated it really poorly and exagerated on purpose
animator niggers need to die
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>>579109951
when deadlock invoker?
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>>579110552
>late sept (actually early December) for "content update"
>content in question is a fullscale adjustment of hero numbers, MAYBE some new rooms on the map if we're lucky
>8th Oct current ranked season ends, new season starts a week later. No other changes.
>item update is late March/early April, includes 3 new items. All other items have their numbers slightly adjusted by +/- 5%.
Please look forward to our new 5-hero content drop in late 2027!
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why do so many troons play this game
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Some point, valve decided that I have to fight Graves LITERALLY every fucking match
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>>579104597
you can't rejoin from the menu you have to fully restart the game and it lets you join back then. yes this has been a bug since day 1.
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>>579110576
I know, I'm just salty because Dota has some stupid itemization decisions that are holdovers from WC3 Dota days that people refuse to address.
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>>579110953
if a game has a high skill ceiling it's going to have a lot of troons
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>>579110871
THEY ARE ADDING BRIDGES ABOVE GUARDIANS SO GUN LASH CAN RAPE YOU BETTER
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>Play Seven or Graves
>Afraid to fight Apollo and haze since they rape me
>Play The Lash after so long
>I'm the one doing the raping
The Lash does it again
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>>579111040
lets hope they iterate on that stuff and we get some peak item update next patch. I trust volvo
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>>579110953
Trannies are our best and brightest and flock to high iq games.
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>>579111075
>""""content""""" update is just map adjustments that are reverted a week later
>no new heroes, models, or items
>Yoshi instantly goes back to nerfing/buffing heroes like he's the fucking tide moving in and out
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>>579107137
neither is your mom but we still play her all the time
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You retards react like this to a simple announcement of a patch being delayed and you wonder why they don't want to do playtesting with the live version
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>>579111246
>Guilty gear strive
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>>579111337
na, its more a of a reaction to just how incompetent the devs are at their job, nearly on par with swedish developers at laziness
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>>579111337
Sorry being excited for a game gives you the ick.
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who's the deadlock streamer that normalized the Yamato alt-fire meme? There IS a reason why every brick player yamato is suddenly doing it now
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>>579111474
oh yeah smart guy?>>579111370

let's see you take a crack at it
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>>579110294
I am differentiating between micro and macro gameplay
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>>579111337
>Thank you for participating in this consumer product study where you will be given advance access to [THING]
>No, we will not listen to your feedback about [THING], because it makes [THING] look bad
>and in fact, there's a separate study where they also get access to [THING], except we make changes and listen to their feedback
>no, you cannot have access to this study, it's only for people we actually like
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>>579111337
this thread has some very determined hate posters that will dogpile any and every decision, even patches that nerf overpowered heroes across the board. the side effect of being valve's new passion project and feeling like their preferred game they sunk autistic amounts of hours into being the rejected baby
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>>579109951
literally just port muerta 1 to 1 as she is
she fits deadlock way better than she does dota anyways
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>>579108769
numbers issue, abrams kits has two free heavy melee combos from charge and ult lvl2. it's also awkward as a gun hero because his reload is very long
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>>579110848
>Design: Painter hero that uses souls to create art. Abilities are all different primary colors, ult combines 2 colors into a new spell. Can make the primary colors do different effects if you're feeling spicy.
>ult effects are just ports of Invoker's Cold Snap, Sun Strike, and EMP (drains stam instead of mana)
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>>579111954
wow another minority girlboss thats what we need
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>>579111679
No it's only for people who actually provide feedback on the forums instead of queueing endless jeetbrawls and seething about S+++ilver on a mongolese basketweaving forum
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>>579111679
they constantly add shit people suggest or create you fucking retard, your only point that stands up is the closed closed sekrit club playtest which is objective faggot shit and the devs are scared zoomers and streamers will screech about unfinished textures and overpowered test heroes/items and leave
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>>579112052
sorry i already made a painter hero that concept is taken man
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>>579111954
>wanting
>spectral slug
>Pierce the Veil
>DEAD SHOT.

ok but bring back Ofrenda
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Is Viscous currently bricked in ranked? I can't win a single match as him.
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>>579111954
>Deadshot becomes like Sinclar's bolt except it only ricochets off of terrain
>Gunslinger gives her a % change to shoot twice, similar to express shot. Second shot takes no ammo
>Calling is her ult but becomes an targeted AoE
>Pierce the Veil is a buff that makes her m1 do pure Spirit damage and gives her a movespeed increase and low gravity
Bam, done. Plz hire Valve, have many good idea.
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>>579112220
blud is really a bootlicker.
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>>579106214
good the PVE mode is the only way ill get my brother to play this game
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>>579112220
>they constantly add shit people suggest or create you fucking retard
Literally when was the last time they've added something directly from the forums outside of Magic Carpet that wasn't just a numbers adjustment based on people bitching?
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>>579112465
>Calling is her ult cuz... idk!
>but make Pierce the Veil NORMAL ability, a more broken Mireska

this is why we are not in the real play test
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Victor should have a special dialogue if he dies with no teammate nearby.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/0/04/Vo_skeleton_king_wraith_ability_incarn2_01.mp3/revision/latest?cb=20200525232455
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>>579111621
I was doing that in 2024 it's not remotely new.
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>>579112613
they made mina parry with her umbrella
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>>579112651
Notice how I didn't say anything about Pierce the Veil given her physical immunity, or how all her lifesteal is converted into spirit lifesteal...
Calling was already her best skill anyways when playing her as her best role (pos 4)
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GOD I FORGOT HOW MUCH THAT STINKS
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>>579112785
should be a pair of panties
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>>579111782
>passion project
>moba hero shooter hybrid
you are INCREDIBLY naive
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>>579111645
how is victor any worse than any other carry in terms of blandness from a macro level?
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>>579112875
yeah bro a movement shooter dota mashup was so predictable bruh
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>>579112831
then its just a boring buff, give her pericing viel like how it works and not some gay thing. if you liekd her fucking w so much then why make it a ult? undying tomb justifies as a ult because he is a walking 2 ult hero in dota along with terror blade who runs aorund with 4 ults
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Considering how gay the last hero drop was and how many undesirables it attracted, I don't even know if I want more heroes
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>>579112875
it's literally described as that by them lol, the entire company is contributing to it and wants on board
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>>579108262
wasn't the item update before the content update?
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>>579107456
>>579107854
But it's okay guys, we got two more game-warping characters with Celeste and Apollo! Isn't it fun to have characters that are so obnoxiously overpowered in every way that it completely wrecks game balance and invalidates more than half the cast?
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>>579111782
my passion project that I update once every 8 months
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>>579113027
where did I call victor worse than any other hero? how many times do I have to say I wanted a skeleton king function in the game from the beginning? I enjoy the gun play in the game, but the graves poster was complaining about "Bland kits"
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>>579112439
massive skill issue
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>>579110434
You should at least get to ascendant and just say you were casual or something.
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>>579107919
The devs don't listen to feedback, they listen to streamers and trannies whining and making sure that the game remains an incomprehensible mess. Movement bugs shouldn't be kept in the game just because someone with an axe wound wants them to stay.
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>>579112875
>ice frog pitches his new idea so hard that the tf2 come back and the cs crew decide they want to take a spin

idk breh it was admitted that nearly all staff moved to deadlock, all while this was during the development of the deck which was pretty much a garage project after work
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Can't they at least release hero remodels and stuff between the new content drops?

Warden, Yamato, Bebop, Viscous, Talon, Shiv, Sinclair, Vyper are all still literal placeholder models
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>>579110968
me but with apollo instead
>TIME TO USE MY ABILITY
>OH NEVERMIND RIPOSTE IS ON A 9S CD
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>>579113270
Any game that makes it this far into development with Valve is a passion project.
They are disgustingly rich and everybody has heard how they operate internally. Those lazy fucks just work on whatever they feel like
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>>579113554
mmmmm.... Nyoh!
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>>579113554
why? because you want it?
that would just make the content drop less impactful
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>>579113046
>if you liekd her fucking w so much then why make it a ult?
>why make this huge AOE abilitiy, that can be expanded even further with items, that makes a little no-go zone that silences and slows enemies, her ult?
You really could go either way but giving her PtV as it is in Dota seems a little absurd.
>Yes Yoshi I would like 10 seconds of complete weapon/melee immunity as well as converting all my weapon damage into spirit and converting my lifesteal into spirit lifesteal
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>>579107919
Valve doesn't give a fuck about your criticism if you're on the goycattle branch. Only the real playtest branch matters.
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>>579113082
we're due for antagonists
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>>579113082
heroes are usually just abysmal to play against after those updates so yeah... I want them to do smaller releases.
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>>579111631
>let's see you take a crack at it
At what, developing a game or playing strive
I don't want to do either
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>>579113512
>nearly all staff moved to deadlock
>development has never ever been slower

>>579113110
>>579113042
only reason they're moving forward with this is because it requires a lot less active development for the amount of income it'll generate
valve does not and has not done projects that they do not believe will generate millions upon millions in nearly two decades now, even if they're often DEAD wrong.
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>>579113414
i already did
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>>579113736
What was that? You want more queer chungus high school students and skrunkly scrimblo marketable plushies? I hear you loud and clear
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>>579113717
>mmm yes 10 seconds of complete immunity
worked for yamato on her release
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what i expect in the coming update
>6 new heroes at least
>new jungle + no more placeholder monsters (including rift if that stays)
>revamped map + finished map, no more blank boring corridors
>massive visual fidelity leap
>all unfinished heroes receiving reworked models + animations
>a real midboss
>bar for the hideout (from the leaks)
>hero cosmetics
>hero progression
>item rework
>selective hero reworks (sinclair ect)
>possibly the start of hideout customization
>big street brawl update
>PVE mode aka risk of rain 3
hopefully even more to pay for this 8-9 month wait, should be good
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>>579112109
This but unironically, Paige Graves and Miku are great
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>>579107137
deadlock would be GOTY if it had japanese H-game designs.
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why is every calico player a screeching autist
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>>579113813
they've spent over 8 years to get to this point, they weren't desperate to suddenly make a billion dollars
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>>579113939
...
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>>579113813
so you're just projecting by calling anons naive then, because you have zero idea how game development works ALSO NOTHING IS MONETIZED, THERE IS NO ACTIVE REASON TO PLAY RIGHT NOW YET PEOPLE PLAY, NOTHING TO BUY NO SKINS NO PERSONAS NO NOTHING AND THERES NO ANNOUNCEMENT OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THE HORIZON SO WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RETARD THEY MAKE 6 BILLION FROM STEAM EVERY YEAR
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>>579113274
i was saying that the hero kits in deadlock in general are bland and very samey. victor is different from this even if it is still in the grand scheme of things kinda bland as well. i want you to go to the character select screen right now and check how many characters have a movement ability tied to their 2, a passive on their 3rd, or a grenade filler ability slapped on them.
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were about to come full circle to where we wear fucking halloween masks. a whole year for heroes.
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>>579112875
The game doesn't really feel like it has much passion put into it at this point.
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>>579114014
Meta abusers on the top 3 OP hero in the game so they're brainless retards
Seriously Calico reminds me of League talon in how fucking stupid OP she is
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>>579113926
>Ermm.. technically Shadow Transformation makes you immune to dying, not immune to physical damage
>nonono ignore the 60% free Weapon Resist she gets on top of everything else!
Man Yammato was fucking broken, how did it take so long for people to realize this?
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>>579114114
yes, the original neon prime ports were samey. all the new hero drops are different. the only "grenade" they've added is graves skull. complaining about passives in a dota inspired game is just silly
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>>579114114
Victor is about as bland as it gets since he is literally just Hold W the character.
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>>579114058
never said they were desperate, i said that them believing it'll generate that amount of income eventually is what drives them forward rather than any real passion for the game itself.
>>579114101
do you think pic related happens because valve genuinely wanted to make a dota 2 card game
do you think the same with blunderlords, or the lab, or that one portatile game with the cave johnson head? how about the only half life game being released in the 2 decades only being finished because they thought they'd corner and foster a market that ended up not existing after all?

valve does not need to generate money but their developers are very much incentived to work on things that WILL generate that kind of money eventually. all you have to do is look at what they actually, actively release.
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>>579114312
>the only "grenade" they've added is graves skull
Calling Jar of Dead a grenade ability is an insult to grenades frankly.
>hit a fleeing Holiday dead-on with the Jar
>but because she hit a jumppad a second later and the skulls were still in the process of spawning they just sit there like a cat when you try telling it to fetch a ball
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>>579114312
and now that I think about it, viscous, shiv, calico, holliday, and sinclair are also unique additions. people still whine about vyper shivs even those hers work differently.
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There are almost no kits in Deadlock that take advantage of the game having a Z-axis and being fully 3D instead of a top down Dota clone

Like it's basically just Lash that uses the third dimension in an interesting way
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Why is yamatos head like that
Is there a lore reason
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>>579114564
>use grenade wrong
>fail to achieve value
>complain
Many such cases
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>>579114629
She's from Japan
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>>579114629
Aliens
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>>579114612
talon, vindicta, viscous, lash, celeste, apollo...
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>>579114312
>"grenade"
pillow, venator's 1, celeste aoe slop that blows up with a timer, apollo's 1 if you REALLY want to stretch it
the fact that there are literal grenades on those kits but you for some reason thought jar of dead was the only one added says it all really
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>>579114312
>the only "grenade" they've added is graves skull.
venator
doorman
rem
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>>579113939
did you miss the part in the post where he said the update wasn't taking so long because of scope creep? it's going to be 1/3 of that.
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>>579114715
>>579114730
Japanese people are aliens???
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>>579114759
light eater is an AOE cone

>>579114782
>doorman rem

nukes, not grenade type projectiles.

I did forget venator :D
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>>579114612
>multiple fliers
>kevin's ice path
>seven, mina, bebop's ult
The movement system does the heavy lifting but to say there are "almost no" abiltiies is a bit much

>>579114629
She's an asian-themed space alien.
No, really, that's the reason. It's getting changed soon™, probably.
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>>579114678
>Hit enemy with Jar
>Skulls take too long to spawn and do no damage
>Use Jar ahead of a fight
>Skulls follow at a languid pace and end up timing out before hitting anything
What really happens in both cases is that the skulls get stuck on terrain or spawn outside of the map so it really doesn't matter how you use it.
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>>579114612
which is why the community almost unanimously thinks lash is the most fun hero in the game no matter his balance state
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>>579114735
>talon, vindicta
uninteresting. flying movement is a thing in dota, slap on some passive evasion and it's basically the same thing.
>viscous
basically no different from pangolier ult
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Post yfw making fun of retards that were spamming update today
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>>579114224
>2024 deadlock release yamato
>20k souls ahead
>dives your backline
>yells in gibberish japanese
>becomes god, immune to debuffs, while regaining all her health with Vampiric Burst, infinite ammo, insane firerate focus on items.
>hold m1 but slashes when youre 100% dead like an execute

she still is some what the same which im happy about but it was horror
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kill the little monkey feller, i dont like him
hes ugly
i dont like lookin at em
you can keep the moleman
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>>579114930
>It's getting changed soon™, probably.
What a shame that's pretty funny
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>>579114941
they are literally flying in 3d

>no different from pango

puddle punch my man. and I forgot ivy, her ult is the best scouting/rotation tool in the game as long as nobody has knockdown
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>>579114930
"hero can fly in the air" is not an interesting usage of a three-dimensional playfield
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>she
YAMATOS A FEMALE JAPENESE ALIEN?
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>>579115071
I'M NOT DYIENG TODAE
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>>579114913
doorman's bell literally goes off on a timer and can be blown up by shooting at it, what the fuck is that if not a grenade? is geist's 1 not a grenade now but jar of dead apparently is?

>light eater
you KNOW i meant radiant daggers retardkun
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>>579115141
that's one of the basic additions going into 3d offers

>>579115205
what grenades go into a straight projectile pattern and that also can be manually detonated by a gun shot
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>>579115141
Explicitly incorrect and untrue, flying is cool as shit and makes significant use of a three dimensional playfield by changing angles and sightlines
What you mean to say is "I don't like flying heroes"

>>579115168
Correct
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>>579114930
>press a button
>now i'm walking on the air while going even slower than on the ground
nigga that's literally marvel rivals tier. fucking OVERWATCH has more interesting fliers than that, it's not a fun use of the Z axis at all. what makes Lash fun is that you're constantly having to manage gravity while at the same time being rewarded from good positioning and getting as high as you can get
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>>579115168
>>579114863
neon prime pitch was an alien being a weeb into japanese culture, becomes a serious samurai (who originally was just a dota 2 juggernaut model at the time). yamato pitch model got made but a giant overhaul on the art design got changed and yamato was swept into the current and sent here as is. which is why a likely remodel
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>Ice path over to M1 Ape
>Dome + Disarm
>M1 Ape dies
>He spends the rest of the matching raging in chat
IN HERE
I AM KING
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>>579110793
>Haha i made the two fan favorite characters do a funny dance and i animated it really poorly and exagerated on purpose
(and that's a good thing)
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>>579115372
>overwatch has more interesting characters!

funny, I was just watching a video complaining about jetpack cat ruining that game
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New hero will summon claw machine style drones that "immobilize" enemies by picking them up by their heads for 3-5 seconds
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>>579114807
considering we got old gods new blood in 5 months and it totally changed the game i expect 9 months of wait to fair exceed the content breadth of prior updates
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>>579115286
>straight projectile pattern
literally any in this game including literal grenades like venators'

>also can be manually detonated by a gun shot
i want you to go grab a live grenade and shoot it irl and come back to report results
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>>579115537
who are you and why are you trying to bait me so hard
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>>579115479
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>>579115337
>flying is cool as shit and makes significant use of a three dimensional playfield by changing angles and sightlines
not the way it's used in this game though, not with vindicta and talon at least. there's a reason the most fun you can actually get from those abilities is as a jump dodge or as an invisible rooftop rather than proper flying.

>>579115632
i'm not the one saying jar of dead is a grenade but venator's, rem's pillow or doorman's bell isn't.
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>>579115479
warden already does something similar
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>>579115509
>considering we got old gods new blood in 5 months and it totally changed the game i expect 9 months of wait to fair exceed the content breadth of prior updates
Haha yeah bro the longer we wait the better the update's gonna be...
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>spirit lash
>deal 1k damage from the right height but you place yourself right into the enemy
>gun lash
>deal 1k damage by spamming 2 and holding m1 while flying in the air far away from everyone
yeah shocking which one won out
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>>579115471
it's because the cat is the devs watching ivy's ult, thinking "oh shit that's cool let's do that", making the kit in base of it then not realizing that it doesn't really work on a game like overwatch. it'd be fine in deadlock because most heroes are like that already.
it is not a coincidence that they released it alongside the deadlock mode (that they've now abandoned)
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>>579115721
I put grenades in quotation marks my man. that means I'm implying they are not really similar to grenades.
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>>579115141
with that logic call of duty and counter strike receive no benefit from being 3D
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>>579115479
>FUUUUUUUUCK
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>>579114014
I actually had a very nice one today but that was the exception.
Had some freak that one tricked her for 600 games and barely played anyone else, when they did they ate shit. Yes they were an autist mad I wasn't fighting as much as them on Viscous.
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>>579115879
>erm i meant LITERAL grenades
genuine autism. it's an aoe explosion that your character throws in front of them that goes off at a timer. that's literally how grenades work
again i ask you how exactly is jar of dead a grenade but the rest of these aren't
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>>579115765
Shit okay hot bout uhhhh
New hero is... A bird! Yeah it's a fuckin birdman with flying that uses stamina and some missiles that come out during flight that always miss
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Valve is out of ideas? The people who gave like 10 dota heroes in a row "spell that uses their auto-attack damage" are recycling ideas? Who knew
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you don't understand, we NEED to all die for the rift
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>>579113939
I still don't like the fact that certain eternus players are allowed to playtest certain private builds while the general public can't, feels very cabal-y
balancing a game around its comp scene or comp players has never gone too smoothly
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yamato's right mouse button is a grenade too vros... paige.... vros not like this... kelvin... Paradox..... pocket is full of them... ivy has twoo... seven has one as wel....
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>>579116289
Dying for it and giving them 40 seconds to push with their super minions is better than just letting them have it because it just IS , retard
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>>579116331
Sorry chud but only Eternus players are qualified to provide feedback. Btw Silver needs more nerfs. Wraith needs buffs. I also main Wraith but this is because I am very honest.
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>try a different build for fun
>INSTANTLY queued into 4 russians and some autistic finnish sperg with ADHD who joins along in their feeding
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>>579115372
>It's bad because I don't like it
Just like the other guy you're confusing personal preference for actual merit. Swooceing around is fun and that's why those heroes are popular
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Yamabros... how are we feeling after getting cucked out of a new model yet again?
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>>579116803
by all means go ahead and look at what character made the top rank by most fun kit. it's not the fliers, it's the guy actually taking advantage of deadlock's movement and z axis.
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I started playing during the update drought
I don't really care what they add I'm still getting the hang of things :D
In fact, don't change too much thx
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>>579116389
You're genuinely beginning to understand.
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>>579116845
Take the cheatpill and download one of the decent looking remodels. They do it for free.
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>>579115962
The next hero will be Megaman
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>>579116845
it'd be a downgrade
conehead is kino
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>>579116904
viscous is pretty fun yeah
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>>579116724
>finnish
So five russians
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>>579116845
I love the blue alien but there is a good mod for her. https://gamebanana.com/mods/691863
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RELEASE ME
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>>579117125
Not until we get Winter Wyvern ported
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>>579117125
>GT-style line nuke that deals damage to Abaddon/enemies but heals allies
>shield that explodes, this is basically Celeste's shield so not sure how to make this unique
>Mirage-style buildup on enemies that slows them/makes allies attack faster
>Borrowed Time basically ported as-is
Might b cool as a support
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>>579117125
>Let them run. It will not save them!
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>>579117085
>five russians
You sumbitch you take that back
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>>579117358
>Winter Wyvern
They should make a hero whose ult is enabling global friendly fire for the enemy team for a duration
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>>579117840
nah
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Why are the queues so long? It's friday peak time
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>yoshi said no new patch
>not even close
holy shit valve is so lazy
how do they expect to keep the game alive after release? People trust valve but I just dont think they have the work ethic to release a new live service game these days. Competition is too high. marvel rivals releases so many heroes and updates per year valve can barely do one per year??????
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>>579117125
I'm going to main the hero that gets his ult. It's a really fun ult to play with. Right now, Victor is kinda scratching that itch but I need more.
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>>579118008
at least he actually said something and didnt string us along everyday for the next month
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>>579114930
The movement system in this game is ass because it is riddled with bugs that transexuals demand are kept in the game, despite the bugs all making the game worse.
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>>579118008
Volvo was never good for live service, but MOBAs need less regular content to keep modern audiences engaged. Even LoL doesn't get that many regular new content anymore.
People are more attached to dressing up their OTPs, and cosmetics are the one thing Valve can churn out regularly because of Workshop.
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>>579103910
>the update isn't coming for at least another month
>also the update isn't even big
yep, this game is getting abandoned
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>>579118408
Valve invented the battle pass. Dota 2 used to get a constant flow of content and special events in its heyday.

Meanwhile Deadlock feels like they're getting bored even before 1.0
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>>579118213
They didnt add anything for 8 months besides some shitty circle you fight over with reskinned creeps.
>>579118408
Valve doesnt make their own skins yes, they have to actually work on the game though. Which they dont.
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>>579118008
>how do they expect to keep the game alive after release?
Deadlock isn't making it to release, lmao
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>>579118408
LoL had regular content updates when they first started out. Of course it doesn't have any now because it's finally falling off. Valve literally just runs off of good will from all the fanboys fellating the company. You can bootlick valve all you want and people won't call you cringe.
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>>579119096
Uhm ackstually all the grifting ecelebs I watch on youtube (that are furiously working on making a 15 minutes video about Yoshi's post as I speak) told me October is open beta!
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>>579119117
LoL content fell off when they realized they had a bunch of heroes that all did the same thing so they scaled back massively
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>>579110953
Valve game that attracted the tf2 crowd
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>>579117125
ADD PRIMAL BEAST 1:1
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What if yoshi was black?
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that beautiful golden hour when every placeholder model is gone BUT there are no eye-searing ugly cosmetics will be a sight to behold
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What if yoshi was latinx?
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>>579119723
A nigger would be more productive
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Reminder if the wave is pushed up you can go back to base and heal for free
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>>579118008
there are faggots still playing cs after playing cs for a decade, valve will be fine
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Well since Yoshi said no patch until another month I'm just going to stop reporting bugs and abuse them. Not going to playtest your game if you're letting us know we're not actual playtesters.
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calico is drifter but better but you shitters aren't ready for this conversation
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>>579119851
A spic would actually do his job.
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Is every graves player a inter?
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>>579120124
>the s teir for months hero is the b teir hero but better
No shit.
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>>579120124
You're playing as an ugly ass nigger
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>>579120070
yoshi bros...it's over...
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>>579120159
Half the time I get a graves player they never pop egg, I think the average mokrill player has a higher iq than the average graves player
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Dogshit game
Dogshit devs
Dogshit company
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>>579119117
League pumped out like 2 champs every 2 weeks which led to the eternal shitshow of gameplay it's in right now. Not necessarily a good example of regular content updates that were positive for the game.
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>>579120159
yeah
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>>579118837
>Meanwhile Deadlock feels like they're getting bored even before 1.0
this, unfortunately valve doesnt have any pressure to push a finished project so theyll never actually finish the game. Hell there are still dota 2 heroes that are using their models from the Obama administration and never got updated.
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>>579120602
Deadlock pumped out 38 heroes in 8 years and are all out of ideas
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>>579120328
sorry but this whole month I've been told by /dlg/ (who were told by ecelebs) that drifter is SSS++ BROKEN ELO POTION and that calico is at most A tier
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>Deadlock getting the Underlords treatment
Grim
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if infernus is going to be able to deal 1k passively at 12 minutes his gun should at least be dogshit like mina's
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>>579120840
No one was saying that, Silverposter. You're hallucinating, again
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>>579103910
>September
9
11
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you retards are gonna be sucking yoshis balls in about one month when we get the content drop of the decade
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Keep grinding rank or play something else?
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>>579121081
KEEP AN EYE ON THE BALLS BOYS AND GIRLS
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>>579120840
Comparing and contrasting winrates on statlocker,tracklocker and deadlock api is better than listening to pros and streamers, FACT!
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>>579120446
I have jungle fever.
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>>579120840
This never happened.
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>>579112439
>Is Viscous currently bricked in ranked?
Viscous is currently one of the best characters in the game.
Splatter bot builds made people forget that Viscous is one of the most execution heavy characters in the game.
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>>579121369
Wraith is right there man
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>>579121081
>The delay is mainly due to the regular process of playtesting and iteration sometimes taking longer than expected, rather than a change in the scope of the update
Did you miss this part retard? 9 months for nothing, the game is fucking dead.
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>>579120602
I don't play league anymore I stopped around the time they announced after Jayce was there last champion where they were going to slow down champion production. But it's funny because they were still pumping champions out although not as uniform and more sporadic the game felt fun.
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>>579121081
I asked /dlg/ to rate how enthusiastic they were about the future of the game a few months ago, on a scale from 1 to 10. Result was 4.5.
Today it would probably be even lower.

Curious what it will be when I ask again a month after the content update.
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>>579103910
maybd if they didn't waste time on MM and ranked to please the "pro" scene and didn't waste months on the urn only to keep it as it was before and add a pointless KOTH event we would at least have the item rework
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>>579121518
Wraith is literally smoke
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>>579121014
>>579121467
next you disingenuous niggers will start saying wraith is B tier (AGAIN)
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>>579120767
Most people in creative positions the last two decades are actually unimaginative as fuck now.
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subtle signs you instantly lost
>infernus is building for dash
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>>579121584
stopped being fun when they released so many so fast they immediately power crept the older heroes. and then when the koreans got invested in the comp scene they had to shift the entire meta around their tastes. now they have youtubers who have dedicated their tuber careers to shitting on their countless design errors
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>>579115372
>now i'm walking on the air while going even slower than on the ground
That's mostly just Vindicta though.
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>>579121716
She is
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>>579121794
You lose prio on the first wave of the game
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>>579113939
>bar for the hideout (from the leaks)
wats this
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I can't believe I am saying this but I hope Valve is planning skins like League and Overwatch instead of workshop user made content
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>>579121908
Well again I don't play league anymore. Anyone who still plays league is a faggot lol. It really was the best from 2009-2013.
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>Deadlock gets abandoned
redditors and valvecucks:
>at least they are communicating with us
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>>579113393
I won one.
>>579121506
Every time I try to run melee people are parrying out of their minds even when I fake them out. It doesn't help that autoparry is nonintrusive and ubiquitous.
>>579118262
Eh, most of the movement tech is reasonable unless it's shit like dash storage or AG2 dashing.
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>>579113939
I'm only expecting 5 new characters, some visuals reworks (Yam, GT) and jungle + map polish.
I'd rather lowball my expectations and be pleasantly surprised.
If it doesn't even meet those, it's unironically over.
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>>579122543
why would they lower to 5?
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when will SHE be in?
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>>579103910
>>579104185
>Late September
>252 days after Jan 22 is Oct 1
>+60.07% days next major update will be November 2027
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>>579122245
They do both in DotA and CS as far as I am aware. The only game where they stopped making new shit is TF2 and that's because it's only a skeleton crew on there.
>>579122703
Old rumor post I read a few months ago, might have been a shitpost.
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>>579122709
>safe horny monster with 0 appealing design features because being heterosexual is illegal in the United States
Ivy is already in
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>>579122321
Even at that period, League was the best if you didn't play any of the other mobas that came out. Out of all of those, Dawngate would've done MASSIVE damage to League and probably been in it's spot today.
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>>579113939
>>6 new heroes at least
no
>>new jungle + no more placeholder monsters (including rift if that stays)
maybe
>>revamped map + finished map, no more blank boring corridors
probably
>>massive visual fidelity leap
doubt it
>>all unfinished heroes receiving reworked models + animations
no
>>a real midboss
no
>>bar for the hideout (from the leaks)
maybe
>>hero cosmetics
no
>>hero progression
no
>>item rework
yes
>>selective hero reworks (sinclair ect)
probably
>>possibly the start of hideout customization
no
>>big street brawl update
lol no
>>PVE mode aka risk of rain 3
lol
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half of my main roster are low tier, what item can i buy for that?
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>>579122950
you will eat all the goose eggs
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>>579121206
I'm playing a lot of Quasimorph these days.
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>>579122852
>DotA and CS
exactly what I don't want
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>>579122950
A bible so you can pray they'll be buffed
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>>579122902
nigga thinks they took 9 months to do an item update :skull:
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Just uninstalled for the last time, have fun with your dead game
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>>579123387
>nigger can't read
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>>579121794
Mirage, Silver, or Sinclair on your team
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>>579123389
>deadgame
That's actually not what it's called
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I'm going to celebrate and buy a huge cake when Icefrog finally dies and this cancer-wound in the gaming community is finally cured. These online valveslop games all fucking suck SO bad.
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The queue times are so long now
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>>579123014
i think i bought egg twice in a long time playing, might be a viable call idk
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>>579123591
Dead by name, dead by nature
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>>579123620
calm
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>>579123646
>The queue times are so long now
better enjoy it before there is no queue
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every single time they've ever added heroes we knew about all of them in advance. this time its total silence for 9 entire months but ooooh they've definitely got AT LEAST 6 new ones this time guys!!!!
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>>579123620
I bet you'll eat huge cakes anyway, fat boy
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Has the over all rank distribution ever been posted?
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holy fucking cry and complain general
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>>579123791
I can't help that the man is human garbage that caters to the russians and chinese while abandoning his own culture and people. It's hard to put into words how much I hate this guy and everything he brings to the gaming world.

Deadlock still doesn't have a working anti-cheat, it never will and it was never going to have one. You idiots have been scammed since day 1.
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>>579124045
holy denial stage
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>>579124153
the artifact schizo finally reveals himself
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>expecting anti-cheat in a valve game
Schizophrenia
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>>579124045
the game is free and its literally never been better. some people just aren't grateful
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>>579124403
how pisslow are u? meta is fucking dogshit
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>expecting valve to create and finish a successful game
lol, lmao even
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>team update delayed by a month or longer
>content update not even this year
kekaroo
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>>579124153
>abandoning his own culture and people
Icefrog is arab and goblin techies was his self insert character
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>>579124223
i just accept it and am looking forward to late sept as it will have a giga huge deadlock patch and the warhammer 3 update too so im good
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I've played hots for years without a patch, this shit is nothing to me man
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it's always funny to watch people complain about a game that hasn't made a single cent in profit and yet they demand the devs work overtime to deliver a huge update or else.
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>>579124474
its a free playtest calm down lil gup
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>>579125095
>that hasn't made a single cent in profit
and it never will. EOS soon
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>>579125095
people keep going crazy about the meta but the number of viable heroes vastly outnumber the low WR heroes
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S+++er...
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>>579124846
>giga huge deadlock patch
can any of you retards read?
>The delay is mainly due to the regular process of playtesting and iteration sometimes taking longer than expected, rather than a change in the scope of the update
Yoshi is telling you the update didn't get delayed because of it's scope. You'll be waiting 10 months for a shitty item update, not a item rework just a fucking item update.

The writing is on the wall.
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>>579125198
2 more weeks
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>>579125095
Im not giving Yoshi a single cent until he updates the game
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>>579125331
>Lowest winrate + pickrate in the game
Amazing
This is the power... of S+++ilver.
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>>579125331
>third strongest hero in the game
nerfs soon
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>>579125418
no the item update is actually a month away, and the content update after that? maybe next year lil chuddie
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>>579125423
there's no actual way to pay valve for making deadlock bro
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>>579125095
>the heckin devs are working for free
They aren't working at all, lmao
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>>579125095
valve has infinite money to pay wages to their devs
this is not an argument
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>>579125331
>hot girl has low pickrate
This is how you know the hero is shit. This is almost never the case in any game.
>>579125505
You can send Pizzas to Valve HQ
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>>579125095
does the dev team get paid in commissions only?
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I thought we were the playtesters? Is there actually a super secret playtest server that they base everything on while ignoring everything from the normal servers? lmao
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We get it, you're mad because of artifact or tf2 or whatever. You'll keep playing, and you'll be here for the content update in a month. Calm down.
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>>579125641
Normal servers = Data
Real playtest = Actual feedback
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>>579125395
imagine being this much of a retarded doomer, we have zero idea whats in the update outside of whats been directly confirmed by yoshi to be an item update. outside of that, it is reasonable to predict a substantial amount more than that due to the amount of time it has taken, and the amount of content that came in the prior year. if you truly believe that is all the work they have for almost a year + of dev time when we get 12 heroes last year, new patrons, a game mode ect, then you are suffering from some form of mental issue.
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>>579121674
7 8 if ranked wasn't a meme.
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>>579125560
>>hot girl has low pickrate
>This is how you know the hero is shit. This is almost never the case in any game
Tactical Truth Nuke
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>>579125685
>content update in a month
thats the item update. not rework, update... it was just delayed a month, which means the content update is how far away after that? kek probably not even this year
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>late september
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>>579125545
>>579125547
>>579125596
this has nothing to do with whether the devs are getting paid wages or not, the financial inventive for them to cater to man children demanding the game be updated now or they will quit just isn't there and that's what's funny about you people.
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>>579125331
It's SS++++++LVER tyvm
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>>579125845
>2099
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>>579125707
>no no no the update is going to be huge and the game hasn't been abandoned
>y-y-y-you'll see
HOLY COPE
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aiiiiiieeeee let's start screaming at the top of our lungs for a free update for a free game helmed by a trillionaire. this will get us what we want sisters!
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>>579125960
Yoshi literally confirmed today on discord that the game hasnt been abandoned
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>>579125852
>it's ok that they abandoned the game because they had no financial incentive to finish it
what point are you even trying to make here?
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>>579126129
Yoshi confirmed that they've done absolutely nothing for the last 10 months. I don't even think the secret playtest exists anymore.
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>>579126197
that you people are acting entitled when it's actually crazy that this game even exists at all.
they could just abandon it if they wanted and it would actually be a massive flex on the industry because this game already has a fanbase of people who are way too into the game while other devs are struggling to find people to even care about their game's main character.
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>>579125095
>they demand the devs work
ftfy

>>579125062
yeah but like HotS was a good game and remained infinitely more playable
Deadlock has a special brand of demoralizing dread that no other game, not LoL not DotA not HotS not Smite not any of it, has ever given me
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>>579126104
>goycattle self expose
you are why they treat this shit ass game like a live service released game
>inb4 schizo projection niggerbabble
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>>579126453
it would honestly be such an alpha flex to own these goycattle by being paid to do a job and then not do it. employers love to see that from their employees
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i talked to yoshi and he said deadlock is adding a cute flat chested bug girl hero just for me and shes going to be an area control spirit hero and its gonna be awesome :)
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>>579126509
that might be a low test issue, eat more garlic and grass fed red meat

>>579126561
did daddy never hug you? fine, here
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>>579126453
>y-y-you're just being entitled
I don't give a shit redditnigger
>If they do abandon the game it will be a huge flex
the cope is evolving
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>>579126660
so ivy but a bug?
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sasuga /dlg/
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>>579126780
Getting a lot of value from the Ivy skeleton.
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>>579126561
>it's your fault they abandoned the game
what stage of grief is this?
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Why is 30 minutes egg Geist bad? People do 30 minute egg Victor or Haze. Geist is one of the best late game scalers and uses all the stat buffs very well
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wow, it just so happens that yoshi released a statement on the day people were talking about a patch coming out. surly his fat retarded pajeet ass couldnt have done it sooner!
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Valve devs got the ick and don't want to work on deadlock anymore :(
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>>579127207
they are valid and brave for that
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>>579127207
>the ick
Was it us
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>>579126682
>more garlic and grass fed red meat
idk what you're on about but don't tempt me with a good time
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If youi really want (you)s that bad just make a /v/ thread. Make the title [SAD NEWS] Valve has given up on Deadlock, final update coming in a month with no new content. You'll probably get 200+ posts. Just please fuck off
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>>579126981
No it's not
No one does that
Egg is to be popped at 10, otherwise you're trolling
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>>579126632
the devs on deadlock probably don't even care if they get fired.
hotpoo is a multimillionaire from risk of rain and yoshi is clearly just icefrog. do you really think they give a fuck that people are crying that the free game doesn't have enough things in it to keep their minds off of their miserable lives? they're doing this for fun at this point and when the playerbase acts like this i imagine it starts getting really unfun and burn out starts setting in.
i know caring about gamedevs is a very unpopular opinion around here but these devs actually don't have to care about you either. with no money in the equation it means nobody is really forced to "do their jobs". there are no market pressures forcing these people to lock the fuck in and satisfy the players needs because all the people involved are already rich.
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>>579127474
I hope yoshi reads this bro
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Deadlock is finished
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>>579126940
yea because people who spout this retarded shit are soulless consoomers that sperg out and cry about a playtest being experimental.
see streamers and their goycattle fanboys who constantly bootlick valve for taking their time but throw massive tantrums over balance of new content
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>>579122709
>anthro
Weak shit, anon.
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>>579121518
I could take two of them at same time
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>>579127548
you read it and understood it to the point where you needed to deflect because you don't have an argument.
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>>579126129
penis plapper
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>>579127387
If you want pretend the game isn't dead you could always go back to r*ddit
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>>579127553
Also I blame it on the "pro scene"
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>>579127329
You can scream the n word as many times as you want and call women whatever you want to call them. This was never going to last or be viable for making money and icefrog is too much of a traitor to fix these things. Same reason we don't have an anti-cheat. A minority that can't behave pushes away all other players/finances and that's the sort of environment that icefrog wants to foster.

valve game design is just stuck in 2004.
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>>579127739
least delusional riot employee
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>>579127207
>hey can we get an actual anti cheat?
>"ew icky :("
>hey this group of people is ruining the game do something
>"nooo stop telling me what to dooooo!"
>can we get some visual updates
>"uuuuuggghhh whhhyyy"
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>>579127580
>They abandoned the game because you complain to much in a playtest
How many fucking times did Yoshi have to tell you fucking idiots that it's ok to complain?
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Im brick i usually have a good laning phase but afterwards I have no idea what to do and just mindlessly shove waves in, any tips or videos to improve my macro?
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>>579127958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2pUlqDLQ_Y
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>>579127739
>You can scream the n word as many times as you want and call women whatever you want to call them. This was never going to last or be viable for making money
Works for CS and dota.
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>>579127803
Just compare the types of cheats that deadlock has compared to riot games and you'll understand how fundamentally fucked valve is. There is no real moderation - this is a problem and will not be fixed.

valve games are the shitcoin of the gaming world. oh no, it's going to the moon next update. trust and hold.
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>>579103910
an entire month lmfaooo
>>
>doorman bugs been in the game since release
>GT bird bug still not addressed
>yamato bug not fixed
>no updated models ever
>item rework is now an item update and delayed by a month
kekw
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>>579128151
Vanguard installed hands typed this
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why does everyones iq drop by 90 during the mid game?
>oh the respawn time is a minute plus? this is a perfect time to walk alone in a lane! oh we killed them all? this is a perfect time to jungle!
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I just had my Rem go a melee build that he said he saw off Instagram. Why does the game punish me with teammates like this?
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>rem player on your team
The game was already lost
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>>579128123
tbf it really does. dota and CS having the player base they do trips me out for such old and garbage games but people still play them. I also know the numbers are inflated by an insane amount due to bots but they're still pretty big. The numbers they bring in is nothing compared to the chinese market that riot has however. Like comparing a thousandaire to a billionaire.
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>>579127474
yes very successful and independently wealthy developers join large companies to dick around all day and don't actually care about development outside of their own fun. they're just there to be themselves and enjoy the good vibes, and valve is more than happy to employ them to do this! especially over developers that would work more for less money, gabe is just such a huge fan they let them do this its really wholesome actually
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>>579128320
>tfw you auto pilot a slow match for 30 minutes where nothing happens and then get picked off because you haven't looked at the time in a while and lose mid boss
haha I've never done this before...
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>>579126197
he's telling you to shut up nicely.
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>>579128271
>linuxfag detected
kill yourself. your os is shit for gaming and that will never change. valve sure as fuck won't fix it. Steam decks are trash.
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>>579128435
I cannot believe for a single second that anyone prefers valorant to CS. it's a drab, candy colored piece of shit with incredibly uninspired kit designs impotently trying to reinvent the wheel
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4 more months and the game will finally be good trust
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>>579128547
>he's telling you to shut up nicely.
What a faggot
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>>579128320
People just get bored and decide to die. Its sad that this is genuinely how 80% of all deadlock matches are decided
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>>579128651
I don't care. Google how much money Valorent brings because china compared to CS. I honestly have no idea which brings in more money and is bigger.

Maybe you're just old and out of date.
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>>579128778
>but the money

back demon, back
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>>579128589
Nope
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why the fuck does paige do so much damage in laning? she needs nerfs
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>>579128778
First off, who cares about profitability. Second, there's genuinely zero chance Valorant makes anyhwere as much money as CS does.
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>im in brick
By majestic leap and start split pushing non-stop
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>>579128770
I've had so many games where the enemy team will turtle in base and not show on the map for 45+ seconds and my team is just like "guys let's do mid" and I tell them it's a bad idea 3 times, please leave mid, don't do mid, and they do it anyway and that just flips the game and we lose
And the callout in response is usually along the lines of "Fuck it" people literally do just get bored.
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You want to know the real reason why a significant content update hasn't come out yet? I don't know if you're ready for this.

If you remember the Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree release and see the parallels, you'll know the answer. It's because what has been developed up to this point holds within it a conclusion about the capitalist enthrallment matrix incompatible with Valve's internal rhetoric as a corporate entity, and they are desperate to figure out a way to diminish it for goyim consumption to prevent a reassessment of universal values that govern all commercial exchange through the Deadlock community.

Shadow of the Erdtree had much in the way of cut content including major scenes and endings, because Miquella at one point presented the alternative to decaying false order. As such, they sought to villify them and bind them to the embodiment of stagnation in Radahn who held up the old order (Radagon and Godfrey) with rigidity.

From From Software's perspective as a demonic corporate entity they had to do this, as an ending with Miquella facilitated by the Tarnished would quite literally end the Judeau-Christian hold on commercial exchange through directly overwriting it's universal values.


Similarly, the Valve "developers" seek to diminish the content so it points to a pro status-quo conclusion. Money does not matter to them, only reaffirming the universal value structures built on dubious Judeau-Christian axioms that are necessary for Valve to continue operating as a corporate juggernaut.
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>>579128996
majestic brick
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>>579128651
As someone who bounced off of both, I actually enjoyed Valorant more. CS was ugly as fuck and even if I really disliked valorant's artstyle at least it was just gaudy instead of boredom inducing to look at (which I assume could be by design, but none of the maps were really interesting to play in). Valorant had a couple of okay ones. At least being a hero shooter helped it, nobody would have played that shit if all the playbles were just the same dude. Rainbow 6 Siege mogged them both however
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>lack of updates brought genuine schizos to the general
grim
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>Shitposting last week about how the game had already been abandoned
>it was actually true
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>>579123045
great game
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>>579129054
>schizo babble
Shadow of the Erdtree has a lot of cut content because every fucking souls game has a lot of cut content
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guess we're going back to overwatch 2
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>>579128975
I don't care retard. If it brings in more money I imagine more people play it. That could be wrong. Again. I do not care about these two games.

I just hate Icefrog.
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>>579128498
do you think already wealthy people can be driven by money?
a donkey sitting next to a whole box of carrots isn't going to fall for the carrot on a stick trick.
it would probably shock you to see how many extremely wealthy companies are just a rich guy hiring interesting people for company.
valve makes 30% of virtually every PC videogame sale on the planet, they do not give a fuck about their own personal ventures being profitable.
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>>579128589
works on my machine playing ivy bdsm simulator
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Do you guys continue playing if you're having bad games?
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>>579129524
sadly
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>>579129524
Yeah. Playing Deadlock is inherently fun to me, and while I would much rather win than lose either outcome is a secondary concern over just getting better
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I knew the actual playtesting phase of the game was over as soon as sweats and esports fags began demanding a ranked mode and constant balance updates. Keeping the playtest open constantly was a mistake with a fusion of genre's known to attract these sorts of people. If anything this only reinforces my belief in a secret actual playtest branch
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>>579129524
yeah? imagine being like
>ugh that was a bad game guess im done
what kind of bitch tits mentality is that? you'll never climb like that
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>>579129502
You also don't care about anti-cheat or all those windows only games. Which is fine, Linux has games that are only for Linux. Linux can't have a working anti-cheat and to some retards this matters. Maybe Rockstar games or whatever will work on Linux on release. I have no idea and don't care.
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wow I made the mistake of trying to use my main damage mechanism I guess I'm stunned forever and instadead now. great game.
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>>579129660
you don't climb by spamming games.
you climb by playing 1 to 3 games a day and let the game's EOMM give you wins.
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>>579129739
um i'm playing the jak and daxter trilogy just fine with opengoal fyi instead of deadcock
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>>579129820
>you don't climb by spamming games
The rank protection shield literally let's you do that
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>>579129524
entirely depends on my *own* performance.
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>>579129236
>Rainbow 6 Siege
people can bitch all they want about how it isn't milsim tacticool mudcore autism anymore (if it ever really was) and has too much science fiction shit (as if there was any other development direction to go but there)
it slapped and gave a breath of fresh air to the FPS genre by trying something different
the only other game i remember was called Breach and it was some Xbox Live 1,600 gamer points buy-in and it also slapped
like they seriously created a sandbox-y FPS game that broke all the rules and gave you so many tools for wacky tomfoolery
i had the time of my life just crawling under desks, punching out murder holes, and blasting people when they tried to push objective, but it can be so much more layered than that
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>>579129382
Reductionist. The release of Shadow of the Erdtree was highly unusual as was it's "dev" cycle. Nothing about it made sense, and it singlehandedly annihilated any meaningful lore discussion on the game because everyone knew the true endings were retconned but couldn't speak out against Miyazaki and his demonic parasite hive without being called a schizo.

The Deadlock development cycle has similar patterns.
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>Avatarfagging, namefagging genuine schizo has entered the general
its over
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the reason its delayed is because they want it to be as good as possible :)
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>>579130268
no, this is the beginning...
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>>579130083
Oh yeah if I don't go to sote and beat it, then miquella just background mogs me after I beat the elden beast.
But if I do beat his ass, then start the age of stars it's all good.
Deadlock
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>>579130541
this is my moment.
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>>579129524
I'm at the point where win or lose each game pissses me off so much that i rarely play more than one a day
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>Everybody at the start of the year getting excited that updates were coming quicker and the game was ramping up to open beta release.
Fuck IceFraud
Fuck Hotpoo
Fuck Gaben

Valve will never make another game with this retarded company structure.
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>>579107121
Silver would actually be not complete shit if fucking express shot worked on the ult.
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Deadlock has been in development for like 8 years and is still stuck in alpha meanwhile Dota 2 was nearly finished in 3 years and had 2 world tournaments. Are the new blood valve devs just that incompetent?
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>>579131001
Anon, judging by the names in the forums and servers, they're largely veterans. Highest percentage would probably be of the DOTA 2 team.
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>>579129432
so hotpoo and the others aren't motivated by money or have a unified drive for development but they're willingly wasting time under one project at valve because...? Gaben speaks and they obey?
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>>579127405
???
30 minute egg is a pretty popular strategy in higher ranks right now. Because at 30 all the buffs are buffed
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>>579131001
That was back when Valve devs were expected to work
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>>579131190
fun, they are doing it for fun.
they can buff shiv tomorrow just because they wanted to watch people lose their minds.
just because it would be funny and they can.
why do you think this game has so much stupid nonsense shit in it?
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>>579130268
It's evidential that the deep state and it's corporate parasite hives it regularly bails out with it's internal and exclusive socialist benefits wield esoteric knowledge and dark mysticism. It's actually objectively psychosis if you don't believe that's being applied to digital-simulacra/game projects all the time.

There is no way for them to continue their evil without competitive-multiplayer war games generating Luciferian apologetics through capitalistic incentives within pro scenes.

Do you think it's coincidental that Faker (Lee Sang-hyeok) is referred to as the "unkillable demon king"? It's because through war games they seek to create a form of technocratic occultism.
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>>579131456
Shiv needs buffs, but yeah that celeste hotfix buff is a great example lol
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>>579131456
you're telling me the ENTIRE dev team is just fucking around and every manager at valve is cool with this and no one cares about making a return because they're all rich
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>>579130268
at least hes attempting to have actual discussions instead of that dynamo namefag who would have melties 24/7 in here a while ago
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>>579131635
Yes.
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>>579130268
>its over
trvke, game has been abandoned
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>>579131635
valve has been famously very lax on their devs for a long time now. They have 0 pressure to perform because Steam guarantees company profit no matter what.
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>>579131635
yes.
private companies aren't under any pressure by shareholders to cut projects that aren't directly profitable.
they gave mina's bats when she was public enemy #1 a third use just because they thought "it would be cool".
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>>579131658
>actual discussions
Nigga just said faker is an actual demon
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invite only playtest except we don't want your feedback at all and we WILL NOT read the forums and we WILL have another secret playtest to test shit in STREAMERS ONLY so don't even ask ok
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>>579131795
Valve is basically adult daycare at this point. Useless dogshit copany
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>>579131795
but don't do anything with half life, l4d, or tf2 after the mvm update to show the sheep we're still supporting our games
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>>579131932
apparently they dont even allow streamers in it because of deathy accidentally leaking one of the builds a year ago
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>>579131932
it sucks but you should all realize the public open alpha is actually a playtest for their server stability and player statistics, they arent using any of you for balance decisions (thats reserved for the cabal of eternus players and random twitch streamer grifters)
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>>579131932
kek it really do be like this, and then when they play rivals instead of work they blame the "testing and data gathering process" being slow hahahaha like bro if you only you had like 60k people willing to play any slop you put out and give you mass amounts of feedback and data LOL
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>>579132037
>all 20+ year old source 1 games

gee wonder why
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>>579131932
Don't worry, the data scientists at Valve are collecting valuable data by having us play a year old version of deadlock that they can't be bothered to update.

Trust the plan.
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>>579131001
Wasn't dota 2 just a port of the original dota mod? Deadlock actually needs to be developed from scratch.
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What do you think about billy?
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Deadlock is going to be the genz Dota slav zoomers love this shit.
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I love this mm so much its very fun! give enemy 2 eternus and 4 ascendant give us 5 ascendant and 1 phantom 6 very smart thank you
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>>579132568
William is a classless cretin.
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would like to thank the matchmaker for making me basically solo frontline into that team with no real carry behind me
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>>579132654
this has been fixed in the super secret playtest but we wont get that update for a couple months unfortunately
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>>579132568
Vyper thinks she’s hard because she did time. Lady can’t go three blocks without catchin’ a charge. She’s no con, she’s a moron!
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>>579132568
Remove the 10% hp shit and just make his max ram shit out damage.
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>>579132654
>No frontliner
S++++ilver is right there with you though?
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>>579132506
>Wasn't dota 2 just a port of the original dota mod?
DOTA all stars was created in 2004, DOTA2 was in beta by 2011 and released by 2013.

Deadlock will be in development longer than both of them, assuming it even releases.
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>silver is op so she's highly priod in pro games
>retards say they're just picking her because they're stubborn
>she gets nerfed a bunch and they actually stop picking her
>they still spam the "SHE'S LE S TIER!!!" even though nobody actually thinks this since her nerfs
mind raped shitlow troons
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Ascendant 3 btw
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>>579132654
you have silver who is both frontline AND carry according to the game lol she sucks at both
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>>579132601
slav zoomers do love this shit.
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>>579132506
Dota 2 was rebuilt entirely from scratch in source engine which was not even built for RTS. And Deadlock is still heavily derived from Dota as well.
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>standard so I can unlock haze in ranked
>im teamed up with new players and the enemy is a bunch of sweats
its so tiring bros
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>>579133050
>He thinks S+++ilver posting is sincere
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>>579132568
I think hes largely fine, hes strong but he cannot carry solo on his own. He also actually punishes you for being a retard unlike other heroes that reward you for playing like shit.

Aesthetically he shouldn't be in the game but hes such a poser faggot that I cant help but love him being a whiny bitch to all the other heroes.
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>>579133050
>>silver is op so she's highly priod in pro games
haha
lol
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>>579133073
>>579132939
its funny because one lovebite and rake was murdering me with 2/3rd of my life with spirit resist and greens. human silver just straight up died. at least she was the only other person on my team besides me to buy slowing hex
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I love grinding rank just so i can play with other retards who played 300+ games and have negative winrate they are only there bcs of rank protections yess i love it
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>>579133306
Try reading the next two lines of text before replying next time rajesh
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>>579131932
How many posts have you made on the forums?
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>>579133054
deadlock is a fun casual game xister, even who plays gets to climb :)
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>still playing the second-class citizen version of the game
kekw
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>>579122402
Some of the movement stuff is fine and sensible and flows nicely with the way the game is designed, such as heavy melee airtime extension/using it as another dash, or mantle-sliding. Stuff like IADs and what you are talking about is retarded as fuck and should be removed immediately. Corner/edgeboosting also should be removed since it's just so dumb and niche and inconsistent as to what actually counts for it.

It's time that people accept that Source engine movement really is not that good, surfing/bhopping and all that is just okay and not 10/10 amazing.
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>>579133289
>Aesthetically he shouldn't be in the game but hes such a poser faggot that I cant help but love him being a whiny bitch to all the other heroes.
He starts bitching when he gets solo ulted. He is a man of people. Gosling-esque even
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>>579133486
this has been implemented in the secret playtest for months already
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>>579133486
im fine with IADs but corner/edgeboosting should have already been removed from the game already
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how the fuck do you push walker when the entire enemy team is aoe
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>>579133386
>dude leave feedback on the forums that'll totally solve your problems
literally better off bitching on here or on a discord or on reddit since at least word of mouth has a higher chance of reaching a streamer/pro player where this feedback can then actually reach the devs and be considered because they pay more attention to streamer fags crying on their streams than they do the feedback forum
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sorry I dont have 300 hours on deadlock
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>>579133386
around 30 this year
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>>579133709
My point was that the vast majority of people complaining and crying about not getting into the secret playtest doesn't even provide any feedback. Why the fuck would they be let in?
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>>579133486
>It's time that people accept that Source engine movement really is not that good, surfing/bhopping and all that is just okay and not 10/10 amazing.

Its better than most games but its not this underrated holy grail of game design people make it out to be. Source also has a ton of jank that only serves to frustrate and confuse players. Why is air acceleration bricked when you press W? Why is shit like edgeboosting allowed? How am I supposed to recommend and play this game to my friends (a game that requires 6 people on a team mind you) when they intentionally keep mechanics obtuse and retarded? Overwatch exploded because it was super easy to enter and enjoy and did not require you to watch cs_surf tutorials to hit the skill floor required to play.
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>>579131635
Steam has shown that all it expects of it's employees is the bare minimum. As long as the gravy train keeps churning, no one really gives a shit. Clock in, move your desk, write about an idea for a game, or piece of hardware or software, check emails, eat lunch, walk around and half assedly ask people if they'd be interested in working on your idea. They give a half-baked answer and go back to browsing social media/youtube. Ad infinitum.
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I renamed my alt account for this game to nigger and it shows up in game.
>>579133865
>moving the goalposts
NIGGER
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>>579133054
just remove ranks at this point
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>>579133708
You don't. Stop trying to force walkers. Forcing walkers is the top way to lose a match. Only go for walkers if the enemy team is severely outnumbered under them, at which time you dive, kill them and take the walker. If the walkers are the only objective on the map, go farm the enemy jungle and look for pickoffs until the next objective spawns.
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>>579103910
>wake up expecting a new patch
>get EOS instead
my weekend is ruined
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>>579131846
>stated in interviews to want to meet the Saudi Arabian prince (who leads the only theological-monarchy with a "high" GDP)
>has been given an official role within Korean law enforcement in their cyber crime division despite not serving in the military and receiving an exemption
>name is literally "Faker" which carries a mocking undertone that he is faking his way to accolades and public support out in the open
>in esoteric spiritualism it's understood that the essence of demonology is seeming, misdirecting (or in other words faking) to receive undue influence or authority

Valve wants to figure out how to replicate this occultism that generates it's own internal capitalist ecosystem full of incompetent reprobates but fine tune it to a scientific degree. Hence upcoming heroes, lore drops or map adjustments must not threaten the demonic nest they've already carved by shining too brightly in either love/light. This would be done by attempting to darken them with a strand of substance abuse, antiheroism and so forth but one absolute requirement is representing an unresolved temptation to commit evil within the mortal collective, then have their "mains" embody it.
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>>579133865
And do you think they'd just invite anybody who leaves feedback, or only if they provide quality feedback? And how do you think they know if the feedback is good or not without even reading it?
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>>579133708
Enjoy your mandated loss :^)
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>>579133709
why would they read the forums when you are giving feedback on a year old version of the game?
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>>579133226
He actually thinks Silver is still op
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>>579134167
And that's precisely the problem people are talking about retard
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>platfomers master movement.
>Make it easy, smooth, controllable, reliable.
>shooters attempt advanced movement.
>make it hard, cumbersome, unintuitive because "skill is important".

i hate icefrog so much.
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>>579133960
>>moving the goalposts
>NIGGER
You misconstruing my point does not mean I moved the goalposts
>>579134056
No, but obviously if you actually put in effort to give feedback to the devs there's a bigger chance at getting in. You shouldn't be complaining if you're not going to contribute anyway. Fuck, I'm pretty sure a bunch of this general doesn't even do the 1-5 ratings that you get between games.
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>>579134324
>No, but obviously if you actually put in effort to give feedback to the devs there's a bigger chance at getting in
source?
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>>579133907
Yeah I got to high phantom in deadlock before the 'matchmaking update', I haven't played in a while but once I started delving deeper into learning the movement mechanics, the less I started to enjoy the game because I realized this shit was almost as bad as GunZ in terms of how buggy, janky, and obtuse the mechanics are— making it such a centralizing mechanic while also making certain characters way better at it due to having built-in movement bullshit like Shiv, Celeste, and Mina—is not going to make this game do well unless they either remove or fix the movement bugs that they are pretending are mechanics. Holding W killing momentum also needs to go, it has never been sensible.
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>>579134525
cope unc
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>>579134497
Common sense.
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>NOOOO ITS NOT FAIR THAT I'M A RETARD SCHIZOPOSTER WHO HAS NEVER CONTRIBUTED ANY FEED BACK YOU NEED TO LET ME INTO THE SECRET BETA OK YOU JUST YOU JUST NEED TO OK??? ITS NOT FAIR
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>>579133865
>they weren't getting enough feedback
>so they made secret playtest to get even less feedback
checks out
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even if the secret playtest server is a whole year ahead of the public one, thats only a single update without very much content so really theres not much difference
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>>579134575
counterpoint, washed uncs are the only people who think not holding W for momentum is good ebcause they grew up playing countless hours of slop surf
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>>579134650
Oh they were probably getting feedback but 90% of it was garbage so they split off the actual useful people and left the rest to rot with the live game
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>>579134037
>Grandiloquent schizobabbling
So you're like the big bang theory but for /x/ and you're cross posting because they laughed you out kek
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>>579134575
Janky source movement is probably older than the concept of calling someone 'unc' as an insult.
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>>579134302
>blaming Icefrog for source movement jank
Were you literally born yesterday? Source jank (which I hate btw most of it should be gone from deadlock by now) has been around longer than most posters in this thread
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>he still thinks there's still a super duper secret play test server
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>>579134732
How do they know which feedback was good tho? its pretty obvious they have no idea what they are doing when you look at every decision they have made since march
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>>579128498
Have you seen the output of the other valve teams?
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>>579131932
they have to do it this way because retards treat deadlock like a released game
I wish they didn't and that we still had hero labs but here we are
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>>579134037
You forgot to mention Faker's 500$ ahri skin
There was certainly something evil about that
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>>579134658
I'm starting to think they shut down the secret playtest last year when everybody thought the leakers got purged.

Most of the leaks from the last update came from retards reporting bugs in the public forum not from streamers. We've had zero leaks this year.
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>>579134889
they are still fixing shit in cs2 trying to catch up to GO quality 2 years in lmao
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>>579135039
>>579135039
>>579135039
>>579135039
>>579135039
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>>579134797
its fucked up that deadlock kneels to 30 year old quake bugs noones ever bothered rectifying. Future of gaming looking grim.
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>>579134879
>How do they know which feedback was good tho?
The cadence of how they post. How they approach giving feedback. Whether or not the come up with suggestions. Their skill level. How long they played. How often they post.
Yelling nigger and seething about S+++ilver isn't constructive feedback - it's shitposting
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>>579134037
>>579134959
>Faker is actually the antichrist
holy shit i thought this thread was doomed but we actually got some kino out of it
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>>579135082
And how do they determine all those things without reading the posts? >>579133709
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>>579126981
Surviving the lane is bad on Geist. I feel you need a regen item first and then the egg immediately loses value. 30 minute eggs are super troll. If people egg. They should go for the 10m egg.
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>>579135165
>posts get no traction
>expect the devs to bother when even players don't give a shit
That or the account was already flagged as useless and to be ignored.
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oh wow another round where drifter gets 20+ kills. how surprising. yeah let's add "character who gets kills" to our moba. his design is that he gets more kills than everyone else every time.
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>>579135419
The feedback forum is private retard, also how do they know the account's feedback is useless when again they haven't read a single post?
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>>579135419
only valve devs can read the feedback posts retardbro, they get no traction because players cant see them other than the op
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Rage queuing so I can get that motherfucker on the opposite team this time and shit on him + be toxic in All chat
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what's the most spirit power you've ever had? I was 241 last round.
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>>579134575
>Retarded zoomer thinks Source hasnt been before he was even a sperm in his dads sack
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>>579121206
i lost 5 ranked games in a row and gonna q standard now to chill and unlock some new heroes
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>>579107571
frozen pizza and deadlock sounds so good i'm gonna be so honest fuuuck i want pizza
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>>579129413
no way valorant brings in more money than cs
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>>579131840
valve isnt trade on public stock exchanges
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>>579132601
just like how riot games are really appealing to the east asian market something about valve games are crack to eastern europeans. i hope EUW population doesnt die out like in dota tho idk how alive it is but ive heard its mostly ukraine/russia



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