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Previous thread: >>578914960

>Latest News/Updates

Darktide:
Patch 1.12.5 - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-12-5-patch-notes/124954
Kuli's guides for beginners:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210

Vermintide 2:
The Feast of Grimnir returns! Patch 6.12.0 patch notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-feast-of-grimnir-returns-patch-6-12-0-patch-notes/125081

Aliens: Fireteam Elite 2 is officially out:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3448650/Aliens_Fireteam_Elite_2/

>Acknowledged but barely discussed :
Left4Dead
Deep Rock Galactic
Killing Floor
Payday
Earth Defense Force
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
Barotrauma
No More Room in Hell 2

and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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Havoc is a fun game mode and I accept everybody into my games!
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>>579148250
Someone asked me about my cog the other day so I jorked it in the elevator. He laughed so hard he had to stop playing for a moment. Newfriends are cute sometimes.
Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
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Hey Kayex
jork it a lil'
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Been playing some Space Marine 2 recently. Can someone explain to me what the most powerful Tyranid bioform is? I’m seeing conflicting answers, some say it’s the Zoanthropes, some say it’s Hive Tyrants or Carnifexes. I know they all have their own purposes and niches but there’s just so many of them and they all seem so dangerous.
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>>579148997
In-game or in canon? 40k doesn't have consistent power levels to begin with so it's not that easy of an answer.
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>>579148997
In the game: the biotitan in the background that you need to shoot cannons at. Second place to the hive tyrant.
tyranids in general:
Biggest, the tyranid hive ships themselves.
Most powerful, Norn Queens, as they can create, control, and direct, all the above.
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RAPED could be here
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>>579148997
rare funny ESL kino
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>>579149975
Sorry, should I leave?
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>>579148997
Maybe not the most powerful but Genestealer Patriarchs are very impressive physically and come complete with their own mind control abilities. In the right scenario they’re easily up there imo.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRyXb85gFKw
Ultimate masculine southlander playlist (best preworkout)(Sigmar approved)
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yall wanna play coop doom?
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>>579148424
>EEELECTRICAL
>DISCHARGE!
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>>579148997
genestealers because they can make you cum with a glance and leave you in orgasmic defenselessness
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It's a full night tonight
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>>579155248
Source?
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>>579157742
Videogame enjoyment plummets when your life starts to suck.
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>>579157742
That's a pretty hand-rubbing lineup you listed there, no wonder it makes the Germans angry.
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>>579148997
swarmlord, its the apex destroyer bioform for when the hive mind cant find a normal solution to the problem
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>>579156002
my brother was stationed on a hive world and he encountered one and that’s how he met his wife
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>>579157742
I like how we can sum up COOP games as [x]Click

>Zombieclick: Left 4 Dead
>Copclick: Payday
>Ratclick: Vermintide
>Poxclick: Darktide
>Rockclick: Deep Rock Galactic
>Alienclick: Aliens Fireteam

I guess to add one you could say Helldivers is Patriotclick?

Killing Floor would be Cloneclick if we want to be different and techincal
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>>579160153
Helldivers is bugclick
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>>579160213
Well there's tons of games where enemies are bugs. Plus it would be too easy.
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>>579160213
Deep Cock has been bugclick for literally eight years...
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>>579160360
I've always known it as rockclick
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>>579160213
helldivers is democlick
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>>579160383
Only after Season 3 launched. It was also called poxclick at the same time, for the same reason. Pic related shows the oldest examples of "bugclick" in /coopg/ and they're all talking about Deep rock; not quite as old as I thought but still long before any mention of it in conjunction with Helldivers.
digging into the archives is actually really fun
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>>579161023
Ratposters brought it upon themselves
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>>579161023
Have you tried not being a fucking jeet, ratposter?
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*raises paw* i like both... honestly...........
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>>579161497
>How do you know someone's a vegan? Don't worry, they'll tell you.
How do you know someone's a ratfag?
You fuckers simply won't ever shut the fuck up about it. You bring it up unprompted out of nowhere, and then have a screaming meltdown over the Darktide boogeyman. Meanwhile you actual real-life furry faggots travel in bands posting porn crops and then try to pretend and gaslight like it never happened. Ratjeets are filth. (You) are filth, lowercasetard.
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I like our ratposters.
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>>579160901
>just shooting each
>Not having a rocket launcher to blow them up in one go

Go back to Clown School, that shit's MIME behavior
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>>579161651
I feel bad for India. The only reason they're getting shit now is because corpos are using them as cheap ass labor because unless you're well to do, you're most likely skirting the poverty line and need a job to support yourself and your family.

That and those corpo fucks don't wanna pay an actual American wage.
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>>579161023
I've been lurking here more frequent since hive scum update. This is the first time I see someone (you) here uses "ratjeet" to refer VT players.
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>>579162050
>mention ratjeet gaslighting
>ratjeet defense force starts gaslighting
It's time to actually go through with it anon. No, not just the ideation. The act. Now's the time.
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>>579162502
Here's my fucking theory. I think once it's night in America, everyone here get's bored because there's no major updates to our coop games coming out.

So we just bicker about random shit like grannies at a Bridge club. Get off your damned high horses.
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Okay, serious question for all of you co-peggers.

How was your day today? What was the highlight of it?
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>>579162576
No, it's always some ratnigger starting shit, every single time, and I'm tempted to go back through archives to prove it, because I know it'll be fucking trivial.
Now, of course, there's a good chance it's just 1-2 severely autistic unemployed dedicated schizophrenic retards, and a non-zero chance some of it is false flagging, but that doesn't change the pattern of ratfags shitting up the thread.
This entire general is unfathomably brown and darktards aren't much better especially when you mention 'avoque, but all the splitfaggotry and infighting is ALWAYS some fucking ratjeet.
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>>579162748
This show somehow has an oddly creepy vibe to it.
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>>579161497
By being pieces of shit
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>>579161023
Nice gaslighting, one of you VT supremacy fags started ratjeet first. >>578761564
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>>579162695
It was pretty good. No particular highlights.
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Seriously though we need to put these ratcels out of business
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i wish i had irl friends to play coop games with
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True Grit?
More like True Shit!
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damnation/auric gamer here:
what determines gunner aggro?
my ogryn and scum get shredded by them. on my psyker i have empyric evasion or whatever, and whatever zealot dodge has so i feel tankier on them.
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>>579171627
Sybau
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>>579170606
aggro is irrelevant, if yorue getting shredded, thats a skill issue
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>>579170606
Threat, which isn't visibly displayed. If everything is targeting you, it usually means you're outdamaging the rest of the team by a significant margin.
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>>579170606
It's probably not aggro, and probably how the gunners are affecting your attempts to evade them:
Zealout takes 0.5x toughness damage when Sprinting, Sliding and Dodging
Psyker takes 1x toughness damage when Sprinting, but 0.5x damage when Sliding and Dodging
Scum takes 1x damage when Sprinting and Dodging, but 0.5x damage when Sliding
Ogryn takes 1x toughness damage when Sprinting, Sliding and Dodging

Sliding and Dodging break enemy targeting, I believe, so that's always helpful. But there's a possibility people aren't Sliding or Dodging perfectly enough to completely avoid enemy gunfire but on some classes you'll still take reduced damage so they THINK they avoided gunfire.
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>>579173797
all coopgames... united.... cooperating.....
what happened /coopg/, why did this place turn into the balkans..........................
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>>579171627
>>vermintide is dead nd inferior to darktide
Correct
>>vermintide was never good
It's just over rated.
>>vermintide is played exclusively by brown people
This is true, + slavs
>>darktide is dead and inferior to vermintide
Incorrect.
>>darktide was never good
This is half true, the launch was abysmal dogshit and it being better now is debatable despite all the changes
>>darktide is played exclusively by brown people
It's played by whites, browns and slavs. Also asians.
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>>579173797
KINO
Honestly this game would be really fun to play. Just add in DT so we got ogryns with pickaxes.
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>>579174542
I swear I only whipped it out for the troll grind! I've been getting better results with beam staff BW anyway, so egg on my face I guess.
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>>579174743
india got the internet
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>>579175019
>it happened with payday
died of its own accord
>it happened with drg
died of its own accord
>it happened with helldivers 2
got their own general
>it happened with spess murheen 2
got their own general and died of its own accord
the only person shitting themselves is you
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Would (You) play a multiplayer cooperative Ace Combat-like/flight simulator 40k game?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxnl1QUcnaU
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>>579175202
Why can't Helldivers just be in /coopg/?
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>>579175202
projection
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>>579174389
>splitfag ratjeetoid crying as he strikes you
Pottery
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>>579175289
Why do you open /coopg/ and ctrl+f "jeet"
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>>579175352
retard
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>>579175159
if it had multiple factions you could pilot the aircraft of? abso-fucking-lutely
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>>579171627
literally just ignore them lmao
have a snickers
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I had a dream where I was playing Darktide as HScum. There was a ASS Veteran on my team who kept running off on his own until he got hit by a Burster and got downed so I ran to him and kept tbagging him until he died. The rest of my team then got downed one by one so I decided to just push on solo for a while then walked off a ledge because I was not going to give these shitters a fee carry.

I blame this general for fucking up my brain.
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>>579175352
>the brownoids itt weren't happy with sharing a general
This is wrong, when the SM2 general died the people there just came here. Nobody had any problem with them existing here.
Only one that did was the splitfag who was doing his hardest to try get the thread balkanized again, like you're doing now.
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>>579176665
People shit talk ratclick because it's a decade old fucking game past its prime that no one cares about anymore, retard.
Imagine taking insults against a glorified pest control simulator this fucking personally, god damn you're a moron.
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I would like to remind you, the viewer, of the current time in India.
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>>579175159
Is that… GW giving the Eldar their lore accurate fair shake??? I don’t believe my eyes…
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UNDERSTOOD that freak...
EMPATHIZED with that freak...
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>>579177515
7 of these images are path of exile
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>>579177515
almost half of these pics are from path of exile
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I think NMRIH2's melee is better than Darktide, there I said it.
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>>579178135
zombjeet post
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>>579177515
I love to see PoE filter people
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>>579179064
It's not even that complicated for the most part.
Want damage? Take the damage nodes.
Want defense? Take the defense nodes.
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>>579177398
>getting more content
How's that Weapon pack going?
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>>579179175
People just get filtered from having to read and plan a little bit nowadays.
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>>579179175
And it still filters people regardless.
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>>579177515
Darktide is better because the classes have more actual variety than ratclick does.
At least half of each "class" skilltree for ratclick is just copypasted skills.
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>>579179064
You don't get free inifnite reset skill tree like in some other games. People or specifically casuals are afraid of making long-term commitment with many bad decisions, even if they stop right after final boss campaign.
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>>579179395
Don’t doxx me like this please
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>>579179064
if your game requires me to interact with people who have made trading digital goods in a videogame a major part of their life, possibly even RMTing it, I don't play it, simple as
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>>579162050
>ratnigger being this disingenuous
>ohh look at me, little old me
>we wuz ratz n shiet nigga we dindu nothin
Oh fuck off, you "people" and the helldiver posters are hated for a very good reason

>>579161651
>here actually dislikes Vermintide
I do, fuck'em
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>>579162695
Fucking shit, but thanks for asking
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I started playing Vermintide last month and it's incredibly fun. I love the colorful levels
Darktide is just bown and grey, which makes me really depressed.
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>>579174389
>ratfag pretends to be le enlightened while also shilling his dead game and shitting on darktide
Try harder next time, you're too obvious.
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>>579180896
good thing poe doesn't require that at all
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>>579162695
terrible
no highlights
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>>579178135
>I think NMRIH2's melee is better than Darktide, there I said it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM3jSZnUPtM
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>>579182864
>most honest RMT game enjoyer
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>>579179949
I accept your concession.
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>>579184785
you just accepted his concession
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>>579184854
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I remember reading in here that as Skitarii we're better off not doing wounds for every curios? I forget what it was but apparently there's a perfect wound to toughness ratio for Skitarri
Anyone recall what that was?
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>>579185343
No idea where you would hear anything so retarded. Use zero wound curios for all classes
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>>579185343
no
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>>579185470
Unlike you Anon I'm awful at the game and need every hand-holding, crippling copout to even play at a below-average skill level.
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>>579185573
wounds wouldnt help you regardless then
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>>579185343
You should only ever take 1 wound curio, no matter what class.
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Hows the new Alien Co-Op game? It looks fun but I don't know how much I can trust Steam Reviews.
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>>579185637
Zero
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>>579185774
I know that, but I'm going off the fact that he clearly wants to add a wound curio to his build despite it being sub optimal.
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>>579185978
Shitters don't get to dictate anything. He's taking zero curios
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>>579185774
>>579185978
Should I do Toughness instead of a Wound?
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>>579186287
1 toughness and 2 health. Your biggest risk is not running out of toughness before it can regenerate but big hits like those from poxbursters
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>>579185573
If you're shit then take 1 wound curio. It's better if you spend the other 2 curio slots on Toughness and HP. Because it will help against going down in the first place.
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>>579186287
I assume you're playing aurics at best currently so I'll go off that.
Curios often depend on the class you're playing. But the most common curio set ups that work on every class are either
>3 toughness curios
>1 health + 2 toughness curios
>2 toughness + 1 stamina curio.

Some classes do sometimes run a bit different set ups for certain reasons like say psyker some people just use 3 health curios because psyker gets access to a skill that makes him immune to ranged attacks. And toughness' main use is to mitigate chip damage from ranged enemies. Also buffing health for psyker makes him surprisingly tanky even against bursters.

Other class is hive scum, many people just run 3 stamina curios because it gives you extra attack speed due to a certain talent in the skilltree.
HOWEVER, hive scum is NOT a beginner friendly class due to the fragility and you WILL eat shit on it if you have bad basics. Ie. Don't know how to dodge, slide and block effectively.
So I highly recommend you do NOT start with hive scum.
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>>579185343
Almost nobody here takes wounds unless they're running martyrdom zealot. If you anticipate going down more than twice between medicaes, you have a skill issue that extra wounds won't fix. Drop difficulty and learn how to block first.
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>>579185623
>>579185637
>>579185978
>>579186242
>>579186287
>>579186439
Don't listen to these faggots. Wounds keep you in the fight longer before you die. If you have no wounds you're more likely to completely go down and have your team try and rescue you.
You should at most have one to two wound curios.
Mfs trolling your ass so you stop playing the game.
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>>579187164
Toughness is the anti-bullet mechanic, good play makes you survive bullets better, gunner resist solve the issue of getting raped by a singular reaper.
You can, and should, learn to wean yourself off the toughness curio crutch. It only has any reason to exist in havoc where you might be able to shrug a single trash shooter volley, that's all you should ever need.
Toughness generation is superior to having a big toughness pool. Yes increasing your pool makes you survive better, no you should never ever be getting hit that often that it matters.
Getting your HP to a level where you can simply shrug poxbursters has a lot of value with auricniggers who shoot every poxburster ever, and also barrels. Getting more HP saves you from bombers and flamers that you might get mutant dragged into. No amount of screeching skill issue makes this less valuable, because I'll screech skill issue right back at you for being too fucking retarded to slide through bullets. The logical conclusion of being a "le building for failure" transvestite is taking 3 stamina curios with stamina stats on them, which is genuinely good, but very unsafe.
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>>579187630
ironic
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>>579187630
>trolling outside of /b/
>>579187647
Also I should mention that the exception to this is veteran. Veteran doesn't function without his toughness curio diapie, because he has virtually nothing in terms of survivability. Ogryn benefits a lot more from toughness too.
I assume all the toughness curio hardliners exclusively play vet or ogryn.
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>>579187779
you take toughness to take less damage in melee, which is what you need for weapons that leave you open
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>>579187630
You take wounds because you don't know how to protect yourself, and you don't know how to protect yourself because you're a new player or too stupid to figure out how combat works, either way someone like you should be listening to advice, not giving it.
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>>579187630
heretic spotted
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>>579187903
What in the fuck are you even saying? Toughness doesn't work like that you absolute mong.
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https://streamable.com/ifx79c

Imported Skitarii deployment, pretty good as horde music.
Ignore my shit gameplay.
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>>579187968
hope they put it in the game eventually
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>>579187647
If you have issues with aurics you have no business giving advice on curios
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>>579188271
>the havoc LARPing nigger is back
Can you go be Indian somewhere else?
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>>579188271
at no point reading his post did i get the impression he was having issues with auric
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>>579187962
toughness absorbs damage as a percentage of current value over its total value, any leftover melee damage bleeds through, however any damage taken by toughness is a flat amount; i.e having 100 toughness and taking 25 damage, means the next hit bleed 25% of the damage dealt because you only 75% of your toughness, if you have150 toughness and take 25 damage the next hit will only bleed 16% of the damage.
learn to play, double retard
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>>579188512
>explaining how toughness works as if that somehow validates your retarded point
Yes, and in practice if you ever get hit twice back to back, that's a sign to lower the difficulty because you clearly suck complete ass at the melee.
In practice, you can trivially bounce your toughness back up to 100% within mere seconds if your build isn't complete ass, and you stop getting hit like a fucking retard.
Push.
Use your dodge button.
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>>579187962
Having more toughness lessens your chip damage.
Ogryn benefits from this a lot because he is a massive target, meaning he will be taking stray shots regardless how well he is dodging and sliding.
All enemies in the game cause flat damage to toughness always, however you recover toughness based on a percentage. Which lessens over all chip damage because having 100 max toughness, but being at 50 T means the next melee attack that hits is reduced by 50%.
But if you have 200 max toughness and are at 150 T, the next melee attack will be reduced by 75%
Also since toughness regen skills always regen by percentage, you will regen all your toughness at the same speed at 200 max toughness as if you'd have only 100 max toughness.
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>this discussion again for the Nth time
every curio is a form of crutch/safety net
use whatever works best for (You)
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>>579188605
thats why i said take it for weapons that leave you open
learn to read, you dumb retard
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>>579188709
Yes, except if you're the kind of moron who regularly takes enough repeated hits in melee for increased toughness to actually do anything, you are also the exact type of moron to keep taking hits after the toughness breaks, so health is infinitely more valuable.
>>579188774
There are no weapons that "leave you open" like that you fucking autist, you are just bad.
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>>579188331
You Will Never Be A True Survivor.
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>>579188804
you dont play the game
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>>579188871
>lowercasenigger spouting the most retarded opinions imaginable
I see it's a regular day in /coopg/.
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>>579188804
you know this argument goes both ways right? he can say the same thing for HP.
>if you're the kind of moron who regularly takes burster hits etc...
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>>579188605
>Yes, and in practice if you ever get hit twice back to back, that's a sign to lower the difficulty
You will never play 100% perfectly all the time and will never be able to dodge or block every melee attack or ranged attack perfectly. Sometimes you also have a bad day, this a small safety net that helps you, but also helps your team because you are not dead.
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>>579188948
Avoiding bursters when auricbabbies might as well roll the dice as to when, or whether, they shoot them, involves playing like a fucking pussy and actively running away from them. If you like being herded around like actual cattle by a fucking NPC unit, then that's kinda kinky and I'll definitely shame you for it.
>>579188996
Yes so you take health curios because they more appropriately protect you against getting hit more than exactly twice.
>but toughness is le infinite
So is your capacity for retardation, apparently.
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>>579189056
Holy mother of retard
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>>579189175
its artificial outrage from retards
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>>579189459
Why do brown people love chimping out over literally nothing?
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>>579189459
You're trying too hard, you're supposed to be funny, not pathetic and sad.
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>>579189175
Tribe faggotry. It's like jeet castes calling eachother inferior. Or Americans calling eachother inferior. Same shit everywhere.
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>>579189746
I can't tell if i struck a nerve because you were already acting like a spergy nigger before i shat on you
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>>579189056
I didn't notice the buff bar was overlapping with my ability icons. Gotta fix that, thanks.
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>>579189082
>Yes so you take health curios because they more appropriately protect you against getting hit
They don't, you're just taking more health damage due to taking more chip damage through out the mission. And on top you get more easily shredded by gunfire.
Which negates the benefit of extra health in the first place.
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>2 guys left
>other 2 are respawned, about 30 second walk away
>hitting plague node things, figure I'll do the last one and go up to revive the other
>other guy with me follows me from node to node whacking poxwalkers instead of hitting the far node, so I'm constantly going back and forth chasing the last one
>guy with me goes down
>decide to disengage and rescue
>by grace of dogless arbites (no shock mine either!!) manage to full team rescue
>go down to get node after stabilising
>guy following me yet again
>other two guys stay upstairs fighting (and eventually going down to) gunners and reapers instead of doing the objective
>asshugger teammate goes down to poxwalkers yet again
>have to do a second full-team rescue and yell at them in chat before they finally do the objective

Some people man.
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>>579189175
The real answer is that the -tide playerbase is predominantly turd-world and extremely low IQ, and being extremely low IQ, they only deal in severely retarded arguments. Can you guess where this is going? It should be obvious where this is going.
>ratjeet acts smug and smarmy over steam charts
>some time passes
>ratclick fucking dies to downright vegetative player numbers
>darktide isn't doing well either because fatshark are retarded as fuck, but still somehow has at least 5x the player count, and that's not even counting the population of consolegroids not showing on the graph, for a game that was much better marketed on consoles mind you
>ratjeet decides to have a meltie
>gets cockslapped by a big girthy graph to the point of concussion
>the ratjeet is completely, utterly traumatized by this, because his own retarded argument that he thought was pure genius, was now turned against him with irrefutable numbers
And then the ratjeet has a downright nuclear meltie and develops some deep-rooted character defining resentment for Darktide.
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>>579189845
Ratclick ruined /coopg/ long before with their unsubtle, unfunny furry porn posting and making half the thread be about some form of rat on Kerillian rape.
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>>579189973
>pathetic
>>579189746
>pathetic

Lmao. I can tell >>579189568 really hurt you when he called you out for being pathetic
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>>579189957
>you're just taking more health damage
Wow! A downright mathematical genius here. You know what else happens? YOU HAVE MORE HEALTH! Incredible, I know. You may kiss my feet for sharing this impossible, esoteric secret with you, mathlet.
Christ, you niggers are fucking retarded.
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>>579190082
Stretched that sphincter
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>>579190241
>more ratjeet gaslighting
I needn't explain what approximately 1/4 of these posts are about.
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>>579190241
>historical revisionism
It's not. It was common place but ratniggers deny it because they know it makes them look actually bad and have no argument for it because they know furfags are a blight.
The shit even got so bad it extended outside of this place into other threads like total war: warhammer and infected those threads with rat rape.
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>>579190446
See? It's that easy to make that very ratjeet have a meltie. Just mention steam charts and he starts screeching.
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>>579190446
Notice how much of a much of an insufferable sperg this guy is and tell me vermintards aren't the problem. No darktide player is this retarded and brown
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>>579190446
thats a lot of projection youre doing there, bud
>>579190606
thats not how the archive works, retard
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>>579190203
And you taking more health damage over all negates the point of extra health due to chip damage. And since you have less toughness you are more easily damaged by ranged too, meaning you're just worst off over all.

More toughness prevents chip damage, meaning you take less damage over all and you don't get caught with your pants down with gunners and shooters as often and don't endanger yourself as much.
Is that simple.

Full health just isn't worth it. Besides psyker which is an easy mode class anyway.
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>>579190606
This is an unedited, unfiltered "rat kerillian" 119 results page 2, you disingenuous fucking nigger. Go trip in your own shit puddle and drown in it.
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>>579190767
no need to post a selfie, we already know what you are
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>>579190749
You are legitimately too low skill at the game to even have this discussion and I don't want to bother trying to spoonfeed someone who is legitimately too dumb and has too little understanding of the game to even have the basic framework for understanding what I'm trying to convey.
I use 0 toughness increases on skitarii in havoc 40 and I'm doing just fine. You will never understand this because you will never be good enough.
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>>579190767
>browncel thinks he can pull of a victory after embarrassing himself with his massive tantrums

Face it, pipsqueak. You got raped
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>>579177515
Imma just pop into this argument with my 4800 hours in VT2 and say that yes, Darktide absolutely does have more complexity than Vermintide.
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>>579190929
>second link
>scroll down
>it's literally right there
Anon?
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>>579191003
bodied that freak
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>>579190446
>How is 2k player "dead" and "vegetative"
It's 1.8k and VT2's player count has stayed around 1-2k for like a decade, it is vegatative because it might as well be in a coma.
Nevermind that the game's content is like 1 or 2 maps per year.
Also their weapon pack got cancelled because Fatshark lost their only people who knew how to operate the Sting Ray engine.

VT2 is gonna get End of Serviced like next year because the devs know they can't do shit with it but it also is a resource drain that can be used elsewhere. Like the UE5 project or even Darktide.
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>>579190929
Lmao holy fucking retard
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>>579190446
Ratjeet, you getting this butthurt over him mentioning player counts just proves his point.
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>>579190358
>119 posts across the whole board over like 7 years and over 1500 threads
Yeah they've really had a vice grip on the thread. You can't go a single post without someone mentioning women getting dicked by rats.
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>>579191003
Microwaved his tendies
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>>579191301
>>579190751
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>>579191371
ironic
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>>579191371
Why are you getting defensive over rat bestiality anon? Is there something you aren't telling us?
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>>579191338
>119 posts over 1600 threads or 1.2 million posts (if we're being generous and assuming every single instance is in a /coopg/ thread)
>approximately less than 0.001% of all posts assuming each thread hit bump limit
Again, their iron fist must be stopped. It's literal tyranny. The threads are literally unusable at this point.
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>>579191498
Notice how 90% of maximally retarded posts are all lowercase.
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>>579190929
Still like Idk maybe half of those posts are unhinged pornbrained Skavenfags. Then you porn addicted moids act like retards wondering why women hate you.
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The last time the rat trannies were spamming rat rape fantasies, someone was pointing out their past rat rape posts and the rat trannies were denying it, now someone is pointing out the last rat rape spamming and rat trannies are once again denying that it happened

They will always deny it, even as it is happening
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>>579190883
>You are legitimately too low skill at the game
Ironic coming from a guy who needs extra health because he isn't skilled enough to not go close to bursters and needs a shielf to not die to the easiest to deal with enemy.
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>>579191567
Food analogy time. Let's use the most stereotypical one, like, say... yeah, an extra greasy burger. Extra bacon too. American flag for a toothpick on it, so the turdies have something to get mad over.
The waiter serves you your America Burger, but before you dig in, ceremonially removes the top bun, and uses tweezers to place a singular, tiny flake of shit right on top. Are you still eating it?
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Remember to document rat tranny posting so they you'll have evidence next time they try to gaslight you
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>>579191271
>Um, no?
Average player count for the past 30 days is 1.8k and it is what actually matters.
>same engine as darktide
Darktide is easier to work with because all the shit post 2023 were made by a different team, and even if they don't 100% understand Sting Ray they know much more about the systems they themselves created.
>bait
It's my unfiltered dogshit opinion and you gotta live with it.
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>>579191883
See that huge, white background?
That's me
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bleed through is retarded. dumbest mechanic in the game
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>>579191707
You know calling out the retardation of your food analogy in that kind of detatched, self-depreciating manner doesn't legitimize it.
You niggers are getting so stressed over the dumbest most inconsequential shit.
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>>579191731
>observe a duck
>observe that it looks like a duck
>observe that it swims like a duck
>observe that it quacks like a duck
>conclude it is a duck
Okay? What are you trying to convey here exactly?
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>>579191498
>Notice how many of those posts are using the same words, the same grammar, the same sentence structure.
>same grammar and sentence structure
Anon, how do you think language works?
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>>579191985
Fatty, lard ass, chunk, chonker, morbidly a beast, deep fried butter.
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>>579191996
>self-depreciating
It's self-deprecating, ESL-kun.
No idea how you projected self-deprecation into it either. It was poking at turd-worlders getting mad at food analogies and immediately calling such posters fat Americans. You must be autistic or something to not realize this.
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>>579192246
The browns are just tiny
>>579192247
Would be 50 without me here
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>>579192016
>this is cope, and you know it
This is like saying you don't know how the extra room you built as an extention to a house is structured and made after the original builders left and weren't around to help.
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>>579192336
They would all be posting with the canadian flag though
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>>579192247
Mine is 124. I alone am smarter than 90% the thread, I just shitpost because it is fun watching sub 90 IQ retards twist themselves into a pretzel.
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>>579192290
>durr you're retarded and autistic
Motherfucker you and co. are the ones screeching about what compromises aproximately 120 (shit let's go crazy and assume it's ten times that due to similar words like vermin and elf) posts - or 0.1% of all posts made across a 14 year old board - wherein all instances may not align with the ~6 year history of the thread in question.

Like sit down and THINK. Is this really worth wasting any energy on?
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>>579192623
>>579191465
You're making this too easy.
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>>579192336
I know for a fact that there's at least 3 finns here in these threads.
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>>579192589
I'm am the 10%
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>>579179847
Respeccing is practically free in modern PoE though
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>>579192923
See
>>579190751
>>579191465
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Can I suck Gabe Newell's dick or something to get him to turn L4D2 official servers into at least 60 tps (ideally 120) instead of 30tps?

I always miss jockeys and it's because of the laggy servers.
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>>579192923
Yes.
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>>579192923
Nobody is claiming this. Are you completely fucking retarded?
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>>579192923
Ratjeet, you are behind all the problems, you just deny any involvement like you always do.
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>>579193010
>I always miss jockeys and it's because of the laggy servers.
Wasn't it established many years ago that the jockey's hitbox is always approximately half a meter to a meter in front of it, and that it has nothing to do with latency or server tick rate, it's just a bug in the hitbox system?
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That endless fucking rat tranny rat rape posting and cropped rat porn that you see every single time vermintide gets an update? Never happened

Never happened in /twg/ either so don't even bring it up
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>>579193263
First we kill every single rat tranny and restore our general to sanity and heterosexuality
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>>579193010
>>579193209
Yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLnTObQqe20
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>>579194565
only because /gsg/ got banned
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>>579187968
dope, I wanted to hear the full version since they dropped the trailer
thanks for the webm, Voxbreaker
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>>579194565
gacha are worse
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>>579194565
It's very identical to any other vidya general when the tylenol babies are starved of content, newfriend.
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>>579195015
You are complaining about the symptom while ignoring the cause.
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>>579195015
my fucking sides
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>>579195225
>they tease it
>yet are too shy to admit it's age of smegmarine
>even more chaos and baits here
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>>579195225
I would be happy because I really disliked VT1 and could never get into VT2 either, in part because both games are butt ugly in their aesthetic (mainly the textures) and had absolutely ASS for QoL at the time I played them, compared to DT which was fine after the second crafting update.
Fatshark clearly care more about VT, and are clearly resentful of DT for some retarded Sw*dish reason.
If, and this is a big "IF", they've somehow learned from their past mistakes PLEASE DON'T MAKE FUN OF ME FOR BRINGING THIS UP, I KNOW, I KNOW, it may actually have potential to be something great.
Unfortunately the reality is more likely going to be that it releases an underbaked, unfinished piece of shit, takes 2 years to even reach presentable status, and becomes a completely different game by year 3 leaving the balance in shambles.
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>>579195612
Go on, ratfag. Address it.
>>579193009
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>>579194565
I fucking dare you to go spend a few hours in /bag/ /xivg/ or /gig/ and say that with a straight face
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>>579190446
shut the fuck up you rat nigger subhuman
the thread is better without your ilk shitting it up with cropped KerixRat porn
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>>579195746
>i dont think they are resentful,
Many of their past communications were spiteful, and many of the balance changes they've made are downright contrarian to what the community and playtesters told them.
>dueling sword needs nerfs
>uhhhh let's completely rework it actually hurr durr
They also clearly hate ogryn, given how the vaulting fix took them until skitarii released, despite being known for several years. Both classes are still slightly bugged btw.
Also ogryn only received some retarded (and bad) sniper with only one viable mark, on the fucking unga bunga retard class, what moron thought this up?
The only thing they remotely care about is catering to the retarded whales that play ogryn, so every cycle of brutally and unnecessarily over-nerfing ogryn after it's even remotely good, they give it a kneejerk buff that somehow makes the balance worse.
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>>579196160
>nothingburger buzzword salad
Alright, nice, I accept your concession.
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>>579196160
>ratjeet resorts to a middle-schooler tier power fantasy
Fucking end it all already holy shit
Jump into Ganges or something
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>>579196318
I dislike obnoxious ratfaggots more than fatshark, actually. In the war analogy, they're the worthless dregs of society that intentionally get sent to the front as cannon-fodder to kill them off.
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>>579196750
>I am so tempted to start fucking sperging out like the uncivilized turdie that I am
And finally, the mask comes off.
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>>579194565
You wouldn't last a day in /xivg/
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>>579194565
You can keep saying that for easy (You)s but it won’t make it true.
>>579192463
Truth.
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>getting this worked up
you guys got zero reputation to keep it's an ANONYMOUS WEBSITE
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>>579189747
those are actually valid though
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>>579195225
Nothing really because it’s going to be like 2~ years minimum before it even releases.
>>579195468
>That RTS that came out a while ago was quite bad.
That’s usually the case I find sadly.
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>>579195225
I'd be hyped as fuck because while I liked VT1 and VT2, I never *really* got into them like I have with Darktide, but I struggle to go back and appreciate them now because they feel and look so different and dated, not to mention I hate the disorienting feeling of dropping into a game that's had years of content and DLC added to it and not knowing shit from fuck about what I'm doing with its systems
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ITS DARKTIDE TIME. LETS RIDE!!!!!
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>>579197342
There's no meaningful difference between you and the retards quibbling over darktide and vermintide as long as you think that.
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>>579198140
cringe jeet nigger

>>579198262
based white chad
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Coop games good
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>>579197947
Pattern recognition isn't tribalism, mate. Ratfags brought this upon themselves by proving the stereotype correct time and again.
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>>579194841
Hi tranner
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>>579195225
People would call it dogshit. For a good reason too because it'll 100% be soulless Age of Smegma shit.
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>>579198542
>>579198140
the raped
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>>579195492
>takes 2 years to even reach presentable status,
4 years*
It's what happened with Darktide.
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>>579190446
Exactly! Look at Marathon, it has 800 to 1k players and the game is FLORUISHING
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>>579196750
>I am so tempted to start spamming porn, just to see half of the posts in this thread being deleted
So you're just going to prove all of our points, ratjeet?
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>>579190358
>>579190456
he always cries the same line whenever you bring that shit up and has been doing so for years at this point lol
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>>579198941
i miss tranner he was uniting us against xir
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>>579198941
>gets shit on by the entire thread over his retarded ratjeet meltie
>immediately blames the American boogeyman
You couldn't be any browner if you tried.
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Why are people even saying ratjeet when there are almost never any indians in the lobby browser and it's consistently an overwhelming majority of American, Russian, and Chinese lobbies populating this game depending on what time it is. It is literally an observable and quantifiable fact that there are very few Indian vermintide players.
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Raped his ass.
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>>579199230
This entire argument was already concluded two hours ago. You're going in circles again. See >>579192049
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>>579199356
>it's totally not me bro
Sure, bud.
>um, um... America uhh... le bad!!
Not very subtle, Vova.
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>>579198941
nigga its 11:32AM we already up
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>what 0 content for 2 months does to a game thread.
/coopg/ is just another name in a long list of victims due to Fatshark's incompetence to update the game in an timely manner.
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>>579199725
>only 2 months
ngmi
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dlc class cosmetics?
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>>579199972
Never.
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Pictures taken moments before disaster
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>>579199972
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>>579200035
Why, though. Actually fucking why.
And no, don't tell me GW, tell me an actual reason.
Sw*den doesn't count either
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>>579200393
fuck you Reb
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>>579200498
cool it with the antisemitism
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>>579200393
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>>579200393
ughh I want to sniff the sweat under space mommy's boobs so bad bros
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>>579200631
Havoc 40. And I mean it.
Just play zealot or a psyker.
I can't and won't play this godforsaken game while I'm sober.
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>>579200631
Aurics, I guess. I don't play this game sober
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>>579200749
Psyker still requires some modicum of mental faculty to draft a half-decent team to wipe your ass and change your diapy.
Zealot can just go full retard with a health build and thrive anyway because it's pretty braindead, assuming you have the muscle memory for dodging down.
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>>579200801
MENTALLY BROKEN AHAHAHA
FUCK RATNIGGERS AND FUCK YOU
THE RAPED
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>>579200943
He is exerting 98% of his turdie humor. If he were using 100% he would post >>579201007
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>>579200631
I don't drink but I do get zooted as fuck and play aurics all day
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>>579195015
that’s like of half of this website at this point dummy
>>579198828
murdered that animal
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>>579200393
busted-up dyke selling thisttraps until one day she decides you are all icky
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>>579201271
I'm not trying to be funny. It's pretty grim just how turdie-coded -tide games are due to their frequent sales, presumably regional pricing (I have no clue, I don't live in the turd world), and appealing to them by virtue of coop games letting them crab bucket grief others without immediately getting their shit pushed in like they do in PVP games.
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>>579198365
Pattern recognition does not equal correct or valid. For example, apophenia, the tendency to see patterns in unrelated things, can be a symptom of schizophrenia.
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>>579201395
One havoc a week, whatever rank, and Aurics.
Maelstroms yield more but they are genuinely harder than havocs to solo if you're wasted, your reaction time and aim get all fucked up and you can't count on the niggers in your team to reliably snipe the specials/disablers.
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>>579201425
You are correct, but bringing up an edge case doesn't invalidate the point, anon. This isn't the gotcha you think it is.
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>>579199230
>>579199478
>tranny
aren’t you doing the same thing
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>>579201395
Grind the event at whatever diff you like
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>o-obsessed!
Literal rattrannies, everyone.
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>>579201932
hehe I love rats, bros
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>>579201395
Doing a weekly h40 (assuming it doesn't take you a zillion attempts) is the highest passive income you can generate.
After that, it's spamming auric Rolling Steel I believe. If you can't find it on the mission board, run the story version. I think it's still more lucrative than other missions, even after adjusting for some 15-20% of borderline unwinnable runs because the hacking objectives cannot be soloed by most classes when you have 3 retards somehow averaging 5 wounds before the second hack.
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I'm REAAAAALLY drunk and I'm queuing up down, you better dodge me if you know what's good for you ;)
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>>579202469
Yes, but only sacrificing the same weapon type (any mark). Sacrificing your plasma gun to level your IAG gives jack shit for exp.
Also use this cheat: https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/395
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>>579202469
Yes by far.
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>>579201628
It's hardly the edge case you think it is. I'm sure you, I, and everyone else here have seen an unrelated face or object in the shape of a cloud, or mistaken a shadow moving in accordance with a light source for something tangible being there at least at some point in our lives.
It's a messy part of our biology that used to be more valuable but hasn't caught up with modern comforts and problems, I think it's good to be at least somewhat wary of our own limitations like that.
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>>579202801
I have also smelled the humidity in the air and seen dark clouds in the sky and felt like it might rain soon. And then when it wasn't super windy, it very often did rain in the general vicinity.
Patterns that are repeatedly observable over a long period of time aren't schizo hallucinations, anon. You are just acting pseudo-intellectual to defend ratfaggotry without an ounce of subtlety. There is a clearly observable and common thread here, that always leads back to some retarded ratfag stirring shit. The only thing that I will happily concede is that there is a non-zero chance that it is the other way around: A shit-stirrer incidentally happening to be, or pretending to be, a ratfag. But that doesn't actually change the pattern.
No amount of historical revisionism un-shits the threads anyone, including (You)rself, can read in the archives. The evidence that has been presented was already extremely damning, even on a painfully shallow surface-level skim. I don't even want to imagine how downright nuclear a full /coopg/ archive crawl would end up being. Ironically, even that wouldn't be fully representative, because crawling images costs obnoxious amounts of compute, and ripping them all would likely get rate limited real fast, which unfortunately makes the idea unrealistic. And anyone who knows what I'm talking about, knows how much cropped rat porn was spammed around and prior to ~2023.
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>>579201646
Yes xhe is because xhe doesn’t actually believe what xhe says xhe’s just mindbroken by people correctly calling out his kind
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>>579203530
>xhe’s just mindbroken by people correctly calling out his kind
Just like a ratfag. Also, note the weird sexual deviancy - a sure sign of a latent mental illness.
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>>579202469
This doesn’t make sense because kerillian isn’t ‘unny
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>>579204025
>"insane cropped ratporn spam" you claim happened in every thread incessantly until bump limit?
I have no interest in continuing this discussion when you are very blatantly not engaging it in good faith.
Of course, I shouldn't expect any better from a lowercasetard.
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>>579204268
No. Nobody ever said that every thread is incessantly ratfagged to shit.
The argument is that a majority of shit stirring is ratfags, which is observably true.
You are claiming the former, which is either in bad faith, or you are legitimately too retarded to wrap your head around it because low IQ individuals are physically incapable of seeing the greater picture. Either way, there is no point in trying to argue with you, because you have proven to be incapable of remaining civil, turdie.
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>I'm right!
>NO, I'M RIGHT!!
>NO, YOU'RE NOT. I AM!!
Ah, splendid
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>>579204656
>post empirical evidence that anyone can verify
>retard throws a massive hours-long izzat tantrum over it
You need to try being more subtle.
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>complete a mortis trial
>complete an expedition
how tf do I skip this?
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>>579204813
>everyone is the same person
Unmedicated schizophrenic.
>going in circles again
>>579190751
Three hours ago. Three. Nothing else needs to be said. The evidence speaks for itself.
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>>579204829
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OHNONONONONONO
Uppercasesisters, our response?
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>>579205158
>you don't need to crawl the images, the thumbnails are permanently saved and enough to prove your point.
It would take several hours to manually go over all of the thumbnails, too. The only reasonable way of doing this is to weed out most of the chaff by running it through a clanker. I'm not interested in either just to settle an """argument""" with some literal turd-world sub-human who can't even be bothered to capitalize his letters.

See >>579191465
Keep digging, turdie. Keep digging. (You) are exactly the type of person all of this ratfag hate is referring to. (You), personally. You are in fact that guy. Nobody fucking likes you. Kill yourself already.
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>>579205445
>Nobody fucking likes you. Kill yourself already.
wow, projecting much, bro. daddy issues?
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>>579205581
>daddy issues?
Projecting much, bro?
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>>579205636
>so you admit you're just wrong and cant be fucked to actually prve your argument.
Correct. You are beneath me, I spit on you. That is the most effort you will receive, ever since you started sperging out like the filthy turd-worlder that you are.
The mask always slips in the most obvious ways.
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>>579205626
>no u
stellar response
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>>579205909
I concede, kneel, and you raped me, you stole my izzat, you truth nuked, bodied the freak, and kissed me on the lips.
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I preemptively accept ALL of your concessions.
No refunds.
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I preemptively body ALL of you freaks
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>>579194565
You should go to /mu/ and check out the metal general. Its far worse than this and been that way far longer. Pisses me off too, because there was a time years ago it was decent, and I would really like a good metal general to talk about metal things in. But man that general is a SHIT. HOLE.
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>>579206213
This is the part where you start a 1~2 hour long ERP session in /coopg/ btw, get to it.
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Is sivehcum's rocket launcher any good at higher levels or does it stall at auric? Haven't played a scum yet, usually just ogryn or skit in aurics
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>>579206715
It remains the single greatest (grenade pickup consuming) blitz in the entire fucking game all the way into havoc 40, and it's not even close.
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BIG NIG NEWS

I just checked the datafiles and we're ALL getting FREE cosmetics next patch!
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>>579206284
/mu/ as a whole is just a shithole. I got the whole scope of the picture last year during the blackout and I was talking to anons in the archives. It used to be good like you say but now it’s arguably the worst and most redundant board on the website with how low quality so much of it is.
>>579204829
>pic
Lol.
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>>579206715
It's the best blitz in the game by far and only scales harder into higher difficulties because it hits more enemies. It obliterates legions of armored enemies, destroys bosses, removes all surrounding chaff. Because of it Hives Cum get priority for all blitz spawns.
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>>579206715
very much so, it's one of the few good blitzes in the game
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>>579206715
It's very good but I do prefer blinders
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>>579206889
>destroys bosses,
This is a slight oversell because you probably shouldn't use your launcher like this. Most of the time it's just a waste of a rocket unless you know a pickup is right around the corner.
It's most useful for staggering bosses off ledges, even if the damage is good.
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>>579200460
Probably legality issues.
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>>579207062
NTA but it's very good against the weakened ones, and it's great at staggering them and throwing them off a nearby ledge

also it just deals a shitton of damage to them and helps you burst them down when you've got like 2 spawn, a pogryn and a captain/twins on screen while the zealot is BOOOKing

speaking of zealot and scum are so synergistic it's insane, people are heavily sleeping on that
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>>579199972
Never ever.
>but why?
We don't know but the only answers that at all makes sense are
>GW forbids it (most likely)
Or
>some legal bullshit getting in the way (also likely)
Or
>both of the above
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>>579187647
>Toughness is the anti-bullet mechanic
Yes, but also no. Toughness pulls double duty since full toughness will absorb all damage of a melee hit, and further hits are reduced based on your remaining percentage of toughness.
>Toughness generation is superior to having a big toughness pool.
Toughness generation is generally based on your toughness pool since it's almost always percentage based. Enemy toughness damage doesn't change though, so indirectly increasing generation means successive fuckups in melee become less punishing. While health helps here too and has its own arguments for being taken, some of which you listed, increasing toughness generation and your DR via a remaining higher toughness percentage is often more appealing to people than taking health since you're getting a lot more mileage out of the toughness overall given its easily renewable nature.
>no you should never ever be getting hit that often that it matters.
The guy whose question sparked the curio discussion was very likely getting hit that often
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>>579207387
It's not bad against bosses, the problem is the opportunity cost. I firmly believe you shouldn't use the rockets unless you actually need them right that moment. Scum's only bail-out is the blitz (and maybe Forge's Bellow if you run that). You will need it to solve an unexpected horde of armor, or clear the downed guy when you have to clutch and don't have time to lollygag around and melee clear the enemies.
There's also the added problem of h40 bosses having retarded amounts of HP.
>speaking of zealot and scum are so synergistic it's insane, people are heavily sleeping on that
And ogryn. A chorus'd Skullcrusher'd h40 boss dies in approximately the duration of the chorus, assuming the scum isn't griefing with a worthless meme build.
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>>579207203
I should get around to reading that it’s very cute
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>>579207680
>And ogryn.
And the cop! Shame he has so few weapons with the Nigcrusher, but he can apply it more often and I believe it's his only real purpose in h40s that and immunity-breaking CC of human-sized enemies in the form of the dog pounce.
As per scoom, yes, you should blend the bosses with your melees primarily, but note that I mentioned the situations you are speaking of - the spergouts of the game director.
Also, fuck the downed players. Fuck em.
I'm sick and tired of people going down to non-absurd situations.
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>>579208390
>>579207680
you guys know if the +10% vs Staggered works like damage multiplier, or is it additive?
I'm PoEbrained and I can never guess which ones are which, I've been told that +Strength works as a mult and that's all I know
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>>579208390
>And the cop!
Skullcrusher arbites has no reason to exist because zealot does the same job an order of magnitude better. You just run the crusher on zealot. The weapon already did no damage anyway, no reason to waste arby's humongous damage potential on it.
>the spergouts of the game director.
I guess? If you can get 2-3 bosses in the blast radius, it's not bad, but that'll also usually just be follow-up to the zealot throwing out chorus. And that still assumes it's an actual emergency. It's not unrealistic to survive boss rushes unscathed. Vidrel is just one example. I don't usually bother recording these.
>fuck the downed players
I guess if you like losing havocs. But also incidentally mostly the correct attitude to have on scum. If everybody is down, that's your zealot failing to do their job.
>>579208605
Check the kuli guides in the OP, they explain all the mechanics in-depth.
If you mean arbitrator's yellow node, it's additive with all other +% damage increases, and therefore irredeemable dogshit. All of arbitrator's yellow nodes are a waste of skill tree space.
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>>579208605
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>>579208989
>You just run the crusher on zealot.
yeah but I can't swing away while I'm chorusing, can I
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>>579208989
>the correct attitude to have on scum
and yeah, if I stop killing I die, the fucking ogryn can pick them up or something
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>>579209381
Correct, you do explicitly need another player to apply Skullcrusher for it to interact favorably with chorus. But that player shouldn't be an arbitrator. I'd even argue you'll be better off just bringing a second zealot. Or shock maul on vet or psyker or something.
The highest performing arbitrator builds are pure ego DPS memes, and they're mediocre at best. Skit does it better, and skit is also on the weaker side of classes. Original 4 remains the best lineup, and the next best one just slots in a scum because it has retarded synergy with zealot + ogryn. Scum lineups peak harder but are less safe because it hinges on the scum being a great player, not just a good one.
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>>579208989
>>579209065
Thanks! That's a shame, really was hoping it was a mult.
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>>579209636
unfathomably brown and unfunny post, I hope it's ironic but I know this place better than to assume such
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>>579209636
Imagine being a "person" who spends their (probably unlimited) free-time documenting and cataloging random hissy fits between anonymous literally whos in order to "own" some fictional person they have in their mind, going so far as to make some screen-collection graphic to prove how smart you are. Spoilers buddy, you aren't human.
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>>579209778
Found the ratjeet.
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>>579209923
schooled that fool
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>>579209935
the ratjeet made the image actually, illiterate schizo chan
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>jeet
>jeet
>jeet
God, I fucking miss pre-india internet.
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>>579209923
RAPED that jeet
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>>579210252
Every 3 seconds a 1 new never before seen indian joins the internet for the first time.
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>>579209923
Individuals like they/them need to be studied in a lab or something. I'm fairly sure what set xir off was >>579190134 this post. It'd be funny if it weren't so sad.
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>>579210564
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>579210621
>>579209923

It's a consequence of an izzat-based society, plain and simple. He/it has been so conditioned since childhood to never accept defeat that he will shit himself bloody in front of total internet strangers to cop a """win""".

Despicable race, they truly deserve to be nuked or at the very least quarantined off the internet
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>>579210564
NONONONONONONONO
SAVE ME NIGGERMAN
AIEEEEEEE
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>>579200114
did you make it out alive
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I really wish there was a mod for Darktide that could somehow detect what mods other people were running and let me see their modlist before accepting them into my group. I hate knowing that at any time there could be faggots like this in my havoc 40.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkzwQDI6Mgw
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>>579211973
>more cheat tranny bait
Dilate
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>>579212081
I'm not that retarded faggot. I don't think its cheating, I use quite a few mods myself, I just think it's extremely fucking gay.
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>>579212307
So get whatever clanker you prefer to help you exploit vulnerabilities in the retarded peer-to-peer cheats, and inject malware that automatically activates when a specific date trips the trigger and nukes their system.
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>>579212034
>>579212386
>nobody finds your retarded post funny
>samefag sperging out over the utterly irredeemable izzat loss that is everyone ridiculing what (You) considered to be peak humor
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>>579212307
Cheater.
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>>579212518
Actually come to think of it, it would be funnier if you wrote some plugin that intentionally features remote code execution vulnerabilities, and then use that to RCE every user into saying some heinous bannable shit in chat and gets them banned :^)
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>>579209647
As a rule of thumb, everything within the same category is additive with eachother, but multiplicative with things from other categories. The categories being:
>increase damage on self
>increase power/strength on self
>increase damage taken on enemy
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>>579212715
I found it funny. And I find the seething over it even funnier.
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>>579153784
is there a specific mod or wad?
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>>579213151
Of course you would, your skin is brown
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>>579212936
So I was correct in thinking that the ogryn/arbites talents that increase damage taken if >conditional< are super fucking good? Nice.

Now to answer if the big boi's aura +20DMG% vs suppressed works when staggered - I'm guessing not, and I've heard that the suppression itself is doo doo caca outdated weak mechanic.

Psyker flamestaf staggers or suppresses?
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>>579210564
whats do you think is the very first thing they look up?
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>>579213468
Bobs and vegana
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>>579212034
???
lmao
you're hysterically lashing out at anything, you're fucking insane and pathetic AND brown
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>>579213468
/coopg/, from the looks of it.
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>>579213380
You're overthinking, newfriend. Whatever deep mechanical insight you're trying to garner is unfortunately completely overshadowed by the practical reality that
>everyone in auric and below is SO FUCKING RETARDED that it's actually impossible to stress it enough, meaning that any fantasies of synergy are completely wasted
>havoc is already solved, there is no new meta for you to discover
So you just use whatever has the best internally consistent and purely selfish self-synergy in auric, and in havoc you basically just use the shit that is good.

The only stat you really need to worry about stacking is strength whenever it is available, and crit for weapons that use it well. Most of the other stuff is edge cases where those weapons don't have access to either, but those also tend to be kind of bad weapons.
Like for example
>damage vs suppressed
is pointless to worry about in the first place because most of the relevant units cannot even be suppressed, and that aura is in direct competition with giving everyone a x1.2 multiplier on ANY AND ALL sources of toughness regen. The only reason you see ogryns not running Stay Close! is because the class is populated with extremely, extremely retarded drooling sub-humans.
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>>579213862
>no new meta for you to discover
I know, I play havoc but I got there by "skill" blindly copying what others do, and I'm trying to actually understand how the game works underneath the hood.
I mainly play the vet, so it's just
>see special
>click on special
Not very complex, is it. I'm trying to branch out.
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see you guys in a couple of hours..... *snore* mimimimi
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>>579214137
>I'm trying to actually understand how the game works underneath the hood.
Then take a deep dive into the kuli guides, as they are informed by data mining and have, at least to my knowledge, been amended to be pretty much completely accurate in recent years.
If you don't trust it, look at https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code or look up how to decompile the game yourself. The source code is literally right there for you to look at, and nothing is obfuscated. It's just difficult to read because it's Sw*dish spaghetti and meatballs code, and you often have to follow a breadcrumb trail of 20 files referencing each other before actually getting at the core functionality, that also happens to have a completely schizophrenic unrelated name in the code that has nothing to do with the localized English name. Even just the DLC classes have codenames that make no coherent sense.
>adamant
>broker
>cryptic
Like come the fuck on.

As for branching out, most classes are kinda sorta solved to have 1-2 excellent builds for very specific reasons. That doesn't necessarily mean they are represented as such. Monkey see monkey do only works with some classes' builds. Veteran is a positive example because it's kinda hard to brick the tree and the class' role is obvious. Conversely, arbitrators and scum most frequently utterly brick their tree into being actually just completely useless, by picking the wrong ability, skipping vitally important skills, and using a retarded keystone just to name a few. Zealot to a lesser extent.
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>>579213468
black penises according to the stats
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>>579214647
>Then take a deep dive into the kuli guides
Doing so as we're speaking lol, and bah gawd is it a fucking encyclopedia or what
Thanks for the convo, friend
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>>579214647
>>adamant
Arbites constantly yell about "i am adamant" and the like.
Also adamant represents their stalwart faith in the Imperium and its Lex.
>>broker
Broker can just mean like a blackmarket broker, like a gun broker who sells illegal fire arms. Makes perfect sense for hive scum
>>cryptic
Admech in general are characterized by being very mysterious, ie. cryptic, and often prefer to keep to themselves, especially when it comes to technology.
So again, makes perfect sense.
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>>579214647
>adamant
>broker
>cryptic

Waiting for the Devout/Diviner

but we all know it's gonna be a SoB with a jetpack
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>>579214964
>is it a fucking encyclopedia or what
It's the closest thing to one that we have. Wikis are usually maintained by mentally ill trannies, and hosted on ad-slop infested platforms, and frequently outdated, never mind the occasional mentally ill contrarian insisting that he's right in spite of all the data proving otherwise. Remember, this game's audience is very, very turd-world.
I wouldn't necessarily recommend reading the entirety of all guides, just mechanics that you are curious about.

>>579215126
There's a pattern to it, but that doesn't mean you can immediately intuit what the code means without being intimately familiar with the source material. It's bad practice regardless of whether you or I can intuit it after being in contact with the lore for several years. An unrelated programmer looking at it will just go "what the fuck is a cryptic" and have to resort to dumping the localization. Shit, finding the source code name for most abilities is a pain in the ass because the naming convention is class_thing_that_it_does but you can never be sure whether the description is actually accurate.
>picrel dump
Rampage doesn't do that. Not only is its description inaccurate, its internal name is inaccurate too. It grants strength, not damage.
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>>579215836
>It grants strength, not damage.
In fact, it and Superiority are equally as offensive, because they claim it gives you melee power, but I'm very certain that, at least Superiority, grants global strength that for example makes your soulblaze stronger while holding the sword. It also generates stacks from enemies simply dying to soulblaze.
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>>579216205
More samefagging, sorry.
>melee power
This is another problem. Fatshark is extremely inconsistent in their naming scheme. Power = strength, strength = power.
I believe "Strength" is used more commonly in localization, but "Power" is used more commonly in code, but it's not fucking consistent either.
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>>579216607
>"Strength" is used more commonly in localization, but "Power" is used more commonly in code
Yep.
It harkens back to Vermintide days, where the "strength" didn't exist and the stat was called Power, with all that entails (cleave, stagger etc).
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>>579190134
>>579190118
>>579190082
>>579190456
>>579209923
>>579210986
>>579191657
>>579191465
Just making it clear for the record you absolutely annihilated that mutant and can walk away from this the clear victor
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>>579216809
Just doing my part.
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>>579216798
I would call that inexcusable spaghetti code because, again, it's internally inconsistent regardless.
It would cost them nothing to just write a quick script that mass-replaces every mention of _power with _strength instead.
>but localization mods
Fatshark have proven time and again to not give a fuck about modding because they keep changing completely pointless unrelated shit that breaks mods for no fucking reason.
Also it would be downright trivial to just code in a localization redirect that appends "your localization is outdated, update your mod and/or contact the author" at the end of that localization string, assuming they even cared, which they do not.
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>check cope general
>0 fren codes posted
>0 games played cooperatively
While you were shitposting I was playing the game and got True Survivor so I'm officially good at games and always right about everything
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>>579219268
/coopg/ BTFO'd
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>>579209636
>the thread that broke ratclickers
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>>579219268
Don’t post my wife
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>>579221684
all me btw
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>>579221869
Notice how Sukhdeep knows in his heart of hearts that what anon said was objectively and irrefutably correct, so he skips right to ad-hominem without even attempting to refute it.
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>>579221869
NTA but just give up, honestly
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>>579222279
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
You can stop being nonchalant about it, everyone can tell the color of your skin by the way you post.
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>>579222279
holy mindbroken schizo
Do you think that anyone cares that much about your worthless fucking life? lmfao, and you call me self-absorbed.
You fucking worthless actual indian filth, nothing you type in this thread will make you regain izzat. You're a nigger bitch, laughed at by everyone.
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>>579222505
>I have to read the entire general
Anon you are the complete fucking retard here. Just ask the question, how fucking difficult can it be you absolute autist
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>>579222639
raped his ass
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>>579222279
you drank his cum btw
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>>579215836
>There's a pattern to it, but that doesn't mean you can immediately intuit what the code means without being intimately familiar with the source material.
It's entirely fine like that.
People who know their shit get to figure things out sooner because they are more knowledgeable.
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>>579222982
>People who know their shit get to figure things out sooner because they are more knowledgeable.
This is how you accrue unsustainable amounts of technical debt and end up with an entire codebase that falls apart when the singular old-head that still understands what the fuck a "cryptic" is, leaves the company.
I know I'm being hyperbole, but this is exactly how it starts.
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>>579222505
I see the aussies woke up
Just ask the fucking question you cunt
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>>579223125
It's like 5 AM on a Sunday there you fucking idiot
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>>579222279
Without fail anyone and everyone who’s ever posted this image is guilty of exactly what they’re being accused of
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Slapped his koala
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COOP VIDEOGAMES
COOPERATIVE FUCKIN GVIDEOGAMES
HOW ABOUT INSTEAD OF DOING THIS SHIT YOU LOT BUY LoveSenseTM PARAPHERNALIA AND COOPERATE INTO MAKING EACHOTHER CUM HUH?! THAT'S SOM ETHING THAT'S GOTTA DO WITH THE FUCKING GNENERAL AT THE VERY-FUCKING-LEAST ARGHHHHGHGHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>579189459
>>579223297
samefag meltie
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Drank his beer
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WHACKED his bush
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ROO'd his kanga
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licked his vegemite
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>>579223238
>he's not up at 5 AM on a Sunday morning
ngmi
YWNBATS
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>>579213165
i was thinking of using a sketchy eastern european play-in-browser website that has coop doom in it (along with other games like quake 3 arena and half life dm but that's besides the point)
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I wish they'd buff the electro staff's lightning attack. Make it either do more damage or keep damage same and lower the peril generated by it.
One other change could be to make the Surge blessing also apply to the lightning itself, ie. if you crit with it, it shoots 2 lightning bolts.
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>>579223743
>wahh zap staff is weak
>wahh my balls staff

Literally just double their damage and they're fixed. It's that simple.
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>>579223702
Doom has co-op?
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They really should do away with grenade full restores and just bring back single charge grenade pickups from vermin tide
It makes the resource and the mechanics and use conditions better than "I have to save/defer this resource for when it counts, IF it shows up at all
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flame staff is only good in havok

I have spoken
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>>579224028
>havok [sic]
Retard
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>>579223743
Or they could update it to be more inline with the arc gun and have it do actual damage to more than 2 targets, and at better range
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>>579224078
how fucking new are you lol
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>>579224214
>durrrr HURRrrrDRUrfFrrrfrf*SLURURRPRPRP* it's ackchewally a physickcshsh engine
No, nigger, "havoc" is an English word, you are just some filthy ESLgroid.
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>>579223913
And yet fartshart refuses to do such a simple fix for no real reason.
Still though, I do think changing the Surge blessing to work on the secondary fire would be very cool. It'd be something super cool, currently the only real things worth using on the electro staff are Warp Flurry and Warp Nexus if you want to spam lightning.
Changing the Surge blessing would become something where it'd compete with the other 2.
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>>579210564
I'M GOING INSANE SAVE ME HP LOVECRAFT
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>>579224287
cute
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>>579224287
Nta but I'd rather chum it up with nigger anon than your faggot cringe ass
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Anyone got a good veteran build for me to copy? I'm quite bad at the game but it's the only class I have at 30 from when I played the game at launch.
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>>579224287
kek fucking newfag
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>>579224287
>he doesnt know how to spell 'avoque
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>>579224310
I agree, it would be cool.
For above reasons it will never ever ever fucking happen.
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>>579224391
The first documented use of "havoc" apparently dates back to some time in the 1400s. The most famous one you might know was written by Shakespeare in 1599. Meanwhile the Havok physics engine was developed between 1998-2000.
You are just illiterate and brown and having an izzat meltie again.
>>579224409
Yeah, in-group bias is known to be particularly strong among your kind.
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>>579224701
>>579224287
>they don't know how to spell 'avoc
bloody schtewpid, innit
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who wannu playz havok gaemuz wiz meee? ><!!!
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>>579224753
kek raped his illiterate brown nigger ass
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>>579224753
>CRY HAVOC
>AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR
I cry when I havoc too, tyvm
not that a turdie would know that classic white man's phrase, used in many songs and written pieces since then
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>>579225154
Marlon Brando's 1953 performance was absolute cinema.
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Is no more room in hell 2 fun?
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DAIMON BLADES?
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>>579225305
cute rat
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>>579224025
>meanwhile the classes that generate grenades laugh at those who don't
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>>579223996
yeah but it's basically going through the campaign along with other guys
https://youtu.be/sg5sc9ddaRw
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>>579225178
I think it would be unfair to remove it, and would likely just cause undue melties again.
But removing the links and relegating it to
>Acknowledged but barely discussed
seems like a good idea, because ratfags don't discuss anything, they only fling shit.
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>>579225178
And what would that achieve?
Mind you, I'm all for it, but it's not like the jannies would ban them for off-topic posting
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I think we should try doing a "no 'tide allowed" thread edition. Just to see what happens.
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>>579225878
me in the back
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>>579225925
Splitfag spotted. As ceremony demands it: Kill yourself.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2_qsKQWD0w
do we like this
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>>579226013
yeah nigga, we do
I've been bumping it for the past 3 hours, I waited for this song to drop since I've heard it in the Skeetari release trailer
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>>579225305
I find it very fun, but we may have different ideas on what makes a videogame "fun". What caught your eye about it?
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wait why did he got nuked lmao
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>>579226045
>all the deleted posts were just one obvious shit-stirrer
Color me surprised.
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>>579226579
He made a collage that nobody laughed at, had a meltdown over it, and shat up the thread with minimal quality posts, if I had to guess.
Or maybe he posted CP elsewhere, that sounds plausible enough for someone exhibiting that sort of behavior.
>>579226693
Don't worry he'll ban evade any minute now. He did that shit last general too.
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>all that samefagging and double posting to try to force a narrative
Holy fuck what a loser
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>>579226754
last thread was our resident schizo egging someone on and literally breaking US law, this is different anon
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>>579226853
Grim to imagine that /coopg/ is retarded enough to get two users banned within barely three days, especially given how lenient moderation tends to be.
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All the pink pips are [Deleted] posts across the entire general. His oldest post is 19 hours old. The longest break between posts was only 2-3 hours long. He has been relentlessly non-stop shitposting for something like nineteen hours, taking only a plausible 2 hour break in-between.
This is what genuine, and severe, mental illness looks like. Good lord.
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I missed all the fun, what was he shitposting about?
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>>579227636
>so many of my replies to, what I thought, were multple people
>were just him
... I need a shower.
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>>579227636
This truly was a stimulating edition of /coopg/.
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>>579227636
what will he do now with all his free time?
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>>579227870
Feels good to be right once in a while lmao
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ENOUGH

post your ogryns
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>>579228496
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>>579226453
I miss my re outbreak experience.
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>>579227636
I wonder if I can mention sister of battle as a class in darktide now without having someone fling shit for 8 hours now.
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>>579228771
OOOOh it was the SoB tranny? the pony guy?
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>>579227636
>it really is just one tard saying the same shit over and over again like >>579198991 says
Quite the revelatory thread.
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>>579228671
it's probably the only thing out right now that's close to that experience
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>>579228771
Go ahead!
What would you want to see on her?
Talents, weapons, abilities?

>>579228871
I don't think so, this was just an indian defending his izzat but who knows, really, I wouldn't be surprised at this point
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>>579228910
He's also aggressively samefagging the lowest quality, and most brown posts in this general.
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[Deleted] that freak
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>>579224649
This is my favourite vet
Grab a bolt pistol with puncture and lethal proximity, big stagger mark, for a quick and easy stagger tool to pull out when something jumpscares you up to and including a reaper while still being accurate and not suffering damage falloff at range for specialist sniping. If you're getting rushed, shoot once to stagger, do some melee swings, weapon master reloads your gun, shoot when they're up again and so on. If you see maulers or plasmas just shoot them in the chest as that's flak
For melee power sword is objectively the strongest, but it takes getting used to and I hate it and it sucks. The shovels have flat horizontal heavy sweeps with that'll keep you safe against hordes with no brain activity required, but if you're a gamer a tac axe or saber with Agile gives you infinite dodges and more damage. Tac axe 7 with brutal momentum and agile is my comfort pick, saber 4 with uncanny and agile cleaves less and uses pokes instead of swings for heavies so it's harder to hit heads, but does a lot better against carapace
Pick a grenade to act as a crutch for the team - shred for being swarmed, krak for carapace not dying, smokes for turning off all non-melee enemies
There's 1 spare point you can put into anything you like - born leader, 4th grenade, ress shout, agile engagement, melee bleed, extra ammo, hold it to flex on losers who need all 30 points to win
Curios I recommend 1 hp to survive bursters/sniper shots when you make a mistake, 1 stamina for better blocking, and 1 toughness. For perks I like revive speed to pick someone up during shout/grenade stagger and g***er resist
When you're ready for havoc you can replace the pistol with a plasma gun and it works just fine
Really though my actual advice is pick another class. Veteran is the only non-cheat class. It's not even funny the moment you switch off of vet the game plays itself
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>>579185573
with wounds you are sacrificing actual defenses that keep you alive. if you suck just take triple toughness and play damnation until it gets boring and you want to raise the difficulty on your own

the only class that benefits from wounds is zealot due to martyrdom and wound damage gating
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>>579225584
Ahaa
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>>579187962
>have 100 toughness
>take 50 toughness amage
>next hit from the same enemy deals 25 health damage
>have 150 toughness
>take 50 damage
>next hit deals 17 health damage
it adds up very quickly once you factor in toughness regen and the fact that you usually take chip damage in short intermittent bursts. also greatly reduces the chip you take when gunners drop your toughness slightly
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>>579228771
We don't need them.
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>>579229250
Kek
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>>579227636
>>579228910
>>579229083
Last one on the subject
Samefag: >>579222505 >>579222673 >>579222814
Forgive my schizo theory, but I also assume he's that same ratfag that got utterly BTFO in >>578772203
Can't just let him live it down, y'know.
That will be all.
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>>579228614
>those fucking kids are gonna pay for taking my lucky charms
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>>579224649
>>579230434
Good build.
I'd recommend putting that last point into +25% DMG on swapping a weapon - works great with most of the vet builds, and especially with what he's describing.
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Do servo skull kills count as ranged kills for talents?
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>>579232026
The servo skull can trigger all of your ranged talents, yes. However, it does not benefit from any of your talents or buffs with the specific exception of any sources of rending because fatshark can't code, but it doesn't matter because giving it rending doesn't really help you in any tangible way
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>>579231570
Holy shit that'd be hilarious, makes an awful amount of sense too.
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>>579232026
I dunno man, go into the meat grinder and have your skull kill an enemy and see if the talent activates
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>>579232026
yes, thats why if youre taking skull, youre insane for not taking threat detection imperative, skull is always going to kill some poxwalker running up to you
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>>579232026
It can trigger all the talents iirc, but won't benefit from any of damage talents and the like. It's for the better since the skull would be horribly OP if it could benefit from the damage talents, like it'd be the arby razorjaw bug all over again
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>>579233076
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>>579228496
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>>579233539
>Head: Empty vibes
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What the fuck happened here?
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>>579231570
I’d be shocked if that wasn’t him lol it’s literally the exact same argumentative shitposting that he opened up that entire chain with while he was trying to act like like a ‘based impartial anti-Fatshark poster’ and not the seething ratjeet we know him as now.
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>>579234032
Ratfag meltie.
See:
>>579227636
>>579229083
>>579231570
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>>579234032
resident thread schizo had another chimpout
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>>579234170
>>579234172
>ctrl+f [deleted]
>137 hits
Jesus Christ
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>>579234172
It's two different schizos, the one from the last thread was the batshit insane resident finfag, this one was the rat indian
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>flawless execution frame
>ASS title
>Atoma's Elite Guard badge
Finally everyone will know that I'm the Real Deal.
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>>579234681
>>flawless execution frame
What penance and frame even are those?
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>>579234795
Beat 15 Malice+ missions without being downed in a row
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>>579234474
>the batshit insane resident finfag
Fucks sake there's one here too? I left /xivg/ to get away from that shit
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>>579233663
You're a big guy.
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>Come home from wageslaving it
>All these deleted posts, some of which I thought were multiple people

Anyway, curios for psyker?
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>>579234934
streetshitters have infested the site
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>>579233663
What chest is that?
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>>579235048
the uninstall wizard
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>>579235048
Try out 3 health curios on a crit build and see how you fare with this talent.
You may need 3x5% toughness perks, or 1 toughness curio to feel comfortable if you're a more melee focused build because those can't crit that often.
Take Just a Dream as well.
Ignore all the metaslave retards that will suggest 3 toughness curios, that's how you get your ass deleted by a teammate griefing you with 1 burster and 1 barrel. Or just 1 burster in havoc lol.
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>>579235091
Oh, the one /xivg/ has is a native schizo tranny actually. How do I know? We've all seen his pasty white cock and balls spammed on our thread, many many times.
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>>579234898
Damn, real gamer hours in here
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>>579228496
I'm still waiting for that black&yellow rumbler/kickback skin to come back into rotation so I can have fully matching weapons.
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>>579230434
Thanks, I've been enjoying the FPS feel of the Recon Lasgun with all ammo talents, my melee gameplay is still atrocious. Struggling in Heresy, don't think I'll ever reach any difficulty beyond that.. Maybe I'll switch to Arbites or whatever is the most crutch class once I've gotten all class-specific achievements.
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>>579236951
>Struggling in Heresy, don't think I'll ever reach any difficulty beyond that
Veteran is arguably the hardest class to carry as, save for a small, select number of builds that work particularly well. If you are new and inexperienced, you are probably just throwing random shit together (no offense) and don't even know what constitutes a good AND self-sufficient build or how to play it. That's fine. That's just being new.
As always, work on your basics. If you're with all 3 of your teammates, you shouldn't even be taking any damage. Wear headphones, listen for audio cue whooshes, dodge more, block more, most importantly push more, use your melee more, etc.
Most importantly, even in auric, people just don't seem to fucking block or push. You can fucking spam push and poxwalkers become set dressing, especially if your class has a short stamina recovery delay (vet has a skill for that in the bottom left). Some classes (arbitrator, ogryn) can even bully ragers with their pushes.
Blocking and pushing is 360 degrees around you, blocking is cheaper from the front. Dogs have a huge hitbox and massive ping leniency for the push, so you should always blindly push when you suspect that the dog you just heard is coming for you. Make it muscle memory to quickly press 1 and then RMB -> LMB whenever you hear that shit.
Similarly for trappers. I used to think that point-blank trappers rounding a corner are a threat, but they aren't. Just push the whore. It comes out just about instantaneously.
>whatever is the most crutch class
If you own arbitrator, that's the one. If not, ogryn with a strong build is also pretty crutch-worthy. On arbitrator, the more toughness and damage resist nodes you take, the easier (if not necessarily optimal) it becomes. Forceful is your easiest choice of keystone because it gives you more toughness regen. Just please don't use retard stance for anything other than penances, BTL is stronger AND easier.
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>>579237617
>Blocking and pushing is 360 degrees around you
Blocking? Yes.
Pushing tho? Not so sure about that one, boss, seeing as this is Vermintide in SPESS and VT had a push arc
I might be wrong about this one, but I don't think I am
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>>579238059
It is, in fact, 360 degrees around you. You can push dogs away by twerking on them.
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>>579237617
Good points. My basics are ass, even though I'm trying to do exactly what you're describing, relying on block and push rather than killing and dodging.
I bought Arbitrator because I thought it looked cool and people said it was strong, but the Mechanicus class also looks fucking cool. I'll probably build whatever people recommend and/or what I can survive reliably in difficulties that aren't Uprising.
I don't particularly like any other class, but like I said I'll try to get the class achievements out of the way while getting more familiar with the game.
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>>579238150
o damn, I did not know that
>You can push dogs away by twerking on them.
kek
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>>579238204
>I'm trying to do exactly what you're describing
Have you tried playing zealot? It's slightly power-crept but still a strong melee class that will teach you the basics or else, while being VERY forgiving thanks to having multiple crutches. The most crutch-worthy build is full health curios with Restoring Faith (bottom center). You become so stupidly health-tanky that it's even the easiest and most braindead build to play all the way in havoc 40, as long as your basics don't suck. If they suck, you have a HUGE cushion to work with, and an extra life, that you can regenerate 2 instances of health from lol.
>I don't particularly like any other class
Have you tried playing them to level 30, or is this just first impression prejudice based on their flavor and voices or whatever? Because I would only count the former. Don't knock it until you've tried it. I promise that if you hate zealot's gameplay, then you might not even like darktide as a whole very much. It's a melee game after all.
>the Mechanicus class also looks fucking cool.
Skitty is extremely high QoL because it solves the problem of most classes relying on retarded teammates to do hacking puzzles. You just skip that by sending your skull to do it. Indeed, all the other blitzes are actually a direct downgrade from the default (or upgraded) skull for this reason.
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>>579148997
Assuming you’re talking about combat ability and not including one off super forms like the Doom of Malan’Tai, the Red Terror, the Parasite of Mortrex, or even something like the Legienstrasse (who had Tyranid DNA incorporated into her and was an absolute monster for it) who all have wreaked havoc in their very limited appearances and then disappeared near completely after, and just sticking solely to standardized units the Hive Mind regularly produces, it would be the Swarm Lord or any of the Norn bioforms. The former being something even Chapter Masters can barely win against while Norn Emissaries are so formidable they’re basically walking heavy tanks complete with warp shields that can shrug off fire from a Custodes gunship in addition to stuff like them being so fast enough they can trivially kill Custodes themselves while also bringing psychic powers to the table.
Pic unrelated but still cool.
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>>579239157
>Leviathan is coming not from the sides but underneath
the thought of that is so horrifying
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>>579238204
Do you have your dodge on a different keybinding with your jump or not? If not, then you should bind jump to a diff button, keep dodge with space button.
The rest is understanding melee attack pattern of your weapon, block cancel so you can reset combo pattern. Even if you dodge, against like ragers, maulers and crushers, you should still hold block.
Turn down music volume so you can hear soundcues much better, especially the woosh sound indicating you're gonna get hit in the back. Always be mindful about your back/behind, have some space and not get stuck by some object or being surrounded and bodyblocked.
As Vet, unironically, sticking to Powersword mk6 with power cycler and rampage is good enough for everything.
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Thanks for the helpful replies.

>>579238614
Yes, I've played all release classes at least a bit. I'm just not a very good player, it's not that there's anything wrong with the game.
I'm still making my way through all classes getting them to 30. Like I said, Veteran is the only class I have at 30 so far.
>you might not even like darktide
I like it fine, I might just not be made for higher difficulties.

>>579243853
Yes, I have dodge and jump on separate buttons.
>be mindful
Well, that's the problem. I understand I should be blocking and dodging and not get flanked but my execution just isn't up to par.
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>>579244462
Go watch some Mr Unc or something for a first person POV of what significantly above average play looks like, that might give you some pointers on how to improve beyond just the obvious improving of your basics. You'll pick up some less obvious things like how and when to kite, or how to use barrels correctly iirc. Honest youtuber. He doesn't play with cheat mods, and isn't afraid to show his own failures, so I don't get the impression that the content is disingenuously cherry-picked, like most havoc runs you'll see on youtube.
>40.000 cheats
>fingerless glove meter UI
>4 man premade in voice, at least one is audibly on HRT, at least one has a heavy thirdie accent
>heavy implications of restarting 20 times to get perfect director RNG because they never show shit actually hitting the fan
It's all so tiring.
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>>579234474
Correct
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>>579246528
they dont stack anyway so it just gives you more options for hero usage, and the empire already has a hero for every army boost
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>Zealot is meant to be tanky
>But you play him at 1 hp for the damage
make it make sense
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>>579249192
You can always just choose not to do that and use a good weapon that doesn't need max martyrdom at all times.
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>>579249192
i dont do that though?
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>started doing Hard mode NMRIH2
>keep forgetting to stop grabbing all the ammo I see because every1 else is also running Scavenger
I forgot that there are more competent people on that difficulty sometimes, though its like 50/50 in terms of there being some competent people in the pubs
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>>579249954
>NMRIH2
Post some fucking webbums already.
>just go watch a youtuber
NOOOO I WANT WEBMS FROM ANONS
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>>579249275
>all the tankiness is in 3 nodes leading to martyrdom
>if its a 2h weapon(the only good zealot weapon is) you also need a 4th node right next to martyrdom
>the only other keystone with attack speed has 2 tax nodes to reach uptime for half the max stacks because it uses its own unique stack mechanic that nothing else in the game uses because it sucks ass
You can't trick me, zealot was made for martyrdom
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>>579250014
honestly im quite glad no one has posted any yet
i want to see the game for myself
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>>579250072
>You can't trick me
I'm not. I never use martyrdom and I play a good bit of zealot. The damage feels slightly anemic without relic blade, but I'm okay only using relic blade (or crusher, which deals no damage anyway so why bother boosting it?), I'll just play other classes if I want variety.
>zealot was made for martyrdom
This is true however, and evidenced by zealot dealing piss poor damage without it.
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>>579250014
have this silly ragdoll at the start of the video that I got terrible footage of
zombie went flying
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>>579250494
Footage is fine, the guy just goes flying so fucking fast it's hard to see in the lighting conditions lmao
Good video anon, keep em coming
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>>579249954
kek. 2 of my 3 characters are two-handed melee builds, so I'm usually only looking for fuddy five. One of them starts with a pack of ammo but no gun

>>579250014
I don't have shit recorded, but I'll re-enable instant replay capturing. For some reason, it keeps disabling itself.
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>>579250763
I wish I had more to share.
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>>579252136
>For some reason, it keeps disabling itself.
If you're relying on your graphics driver to do it, they're heavily DRM gated nowadays. Even opening spotify can just turn it off, and force you to manually turn it back on. I assume other services with that retarded DRM browser check are also affected.
Use Steam's built-in feature instead, it doesn't do that cancerous shit. It just doesn't record non-game audio or video either, which is probably for the better anyway.
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>>579252136
what that other anon said, use steam's recording it's really good now and makes saving clips easily
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>>579249192
Zealot always came off as the risk vs reward class, and Arbiter/Ogryn feels like the real toughness/health tanks.
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>>579252519
>>579252636
>If you're relying on your graphics driver to do it, they're heavily DRM gated nowadays. Even opening spotify can just turn it off, and force you to manually turn it back on.
What the actual fuck. Appreciate it. Cheers
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>>579252519
>>579252636
>steam has its own recording feature
Wish I had figured that out sooner, thanks anons.

>>579250014
As I don't have any epic webms, I can only offer you a picture of a runner in nothing but his undies.
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>alienclick 2, insane-o mode
>literally all of my incoming damage is from friendly fire, or a spitter who is behind seven shipping containers, in another city, firing off arc entirely blind and silently, and the damage from that is so poorly communicated (matte green puddle that is the same color as standard alien blood, which also shows the same UI element despite doing no damage) it is basically impossible not to get chunked for half your health by it

>teammate has bodyguard with the suicide skill equipped on it
>there's no enemies around
>it despawns with an explosion right where it is
>damages me for 15 HP
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>>579253665
>filename
kek
Why is he in his undies tho
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>>579253665
this image killed me thanks for sharing
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>>579253861
>teammate is launching cluster mines literally fucking everywhere on the map
>they automatically detonate after a set period of time has passed
>entire mission is a series of friendly fire jumpscares because he coats every hallway ahead of us with these shits
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>>579253861
How the fuck do you play that on high difficulties? Seems like aliens just spawn form all sides in most areas with a few that'll give you a safe wall to put your backs to. But some of the holdout rooms I've been completely unable to find decent spots on.
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>>579253904
No clue honestly. I can only guess it's the game failing to load runner clothing properly sometimes since they have a tendency to show more skin than walkers.
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>>579255150
Is that Steam making your screenshots look so crusty, or are you gaming on intel integrated graphics? Purely curious. I was on a 1060 until this past year.
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I've been experiencing constant disruptions of my games for a long time. I built my computer back in 2020, is that the problem? I fucking always, ALWAYS, have a connection issue mid mission, sometimes multiple times but it's only for a few seconds which is enough to make me eat shit. This is the only game I play that does this which makes me crazy, is it my fault or the fucking Swedes? I don't know.
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>>579257090
This is unironically the kind of troubleshooting Claude is useful for. But, if I were figuring it out by hand the first thing I'd do is try playing on a vpn. You may get lag, but you should notice if spikes of intermittent disconnection smooth out or not. If it does, that'd point to a routing issue which you could probably fix with something like mudfish
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>>579257090
Does it happen on other games or just one? I don't know how you use your computer but I wouldn't rule out a malware interfering with your connection if it keeps happening at every game. Some sleeper registry entry at delete on reboot section moving around, an unwanted browser extension connecting to their servers or something nasty left over at the Temp folder can be the culprit.
If it only happens in one game, then just check files' integrity or reinstall. If it's a constant issue in any game, check for rootkits and suspicious looking scheduled events.
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>>579255419
I wanna say it's 10% steam 90% the 5+ year old AMD rig I've got, paired with every graphic setting set to low and TSR cranked to performance.
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>>579260327
Ah yeah that makes sense then
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add helldivers 2 back on the op, thanks
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>>579262579
Y'all general dead?
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>>579263732
yeah /coopg/ is dead
as you can see we're hitting page 8 in a saturday night
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A G-G-G-GHOST!?!?
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>>579265986
I'm obviously talking about the helldiver general. Are you retarded?
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>>579258319
Nta but I remember when I used to play fo76 it would make my router reset 10 minutes after starting the game and then not again that during play session. Really weird.
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man killing floor 3 is so weird (besides just being bad).
it would be like 40% better if the controls weren't so fucked up, like there's 3 different ways to toggle sprint for some fucked up reason. the vaulting animation is fucking dumb and pointless, we already have a jump, tho tbf i hate canned vaulting in every game.
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>>579231570
After reading all the deleted posts, I think we have it all wrong. I don't think this is one particularly angry anon who wanted to prove everyone wrong, but rather just a fastidiously accurate and skilled shitposter.
The clearest proof is how they replied to themselves for 19 hours straight—switching personalities, changing vocabulary, and even throwing in intentional typos just to look credible. It’s the handiwork of someone who was incredibly bored and had way too much free time.

Specifically those two posts:
>>579196160
>>579196750

Honestly, it’s fascinating to see someone fake autocorrect errors and typos that persist across multiple replies in a chain, and then watch them disappear when they take the role of a different anon.
I doubt this person even cares about Vermintide or Darktide. They were here just to instigate one of the biggest flamewars this General has ever seen.
This goes way beyond the scope of a typical mental illness. This is someone who did this on purpose.
I'm not sure if they are the exact same person from the other day, the one who proved their 'basedness' by purchasing the DLCs. However, I wouldn't be surprised if they are, or if they actually bought them at all, or if the picture was made up as well.
The question is, since the thread is back to a few posts per hour, how long until they ban evade and come back?
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>>579277153
something something tranny discord, im not gay enough to keep up with gay ops for stupid shit
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I haven't played Vemintide 2 in quite some time.
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>>579277153
>skilled shitposter
Sounds like he's already back
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>>579277153
>timezone
We got a tranny from toronto on our hands
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i love it when shit eating faggot retards leave the event mission in the literally last area cause they keep eating shit but refuse to be carried like the fucking retards they are
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>>579278532
That would line up with the jeeter theory as well
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>>579149425
I meant more lore wise yeah
>>579149502
>>579151056
>>579155248
>>579159335
>>579239157
Appreciate it. Very interesting. I like these guys a lot. I think they’re probably my favorite take on the whole hive mind insectoid swarm thing in sci fi. They don’t have much personality but manage to be entertaining all the same.
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>>579277153
Dumb redditspacer
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>>579229083
This is an imitation because this kind of posts are made by mk3 plasma schizo samefag (formerly arbites schizo)
The difference is that this schizo dosen't reply to anyone
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okay i'm gonna take a nap now, don't let the general get archived pretty please
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>>579281592
I will start shitposting about ripper guns and make sure it'll get archived.
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Today I will remind them.
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>>579282202
Cool sister of battle stand-in
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About a month left until the next major update. What is on your wishlist, anon?
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>>579283251
Anything but another meme mode or new class
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>>579283251
Sister of battle novitiate personality for zealot
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>log on my arbitrator for the first time in n months to see the swedes changed my mastiff name from blondie to charl1-3
>cant change it back to blondie
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Since im bored of darktide at the moment since lmao swedish vacations I was thinking of buying either:

No more rooms in hell 2
Far far west

which one do you think is better?
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>>579283251
>About a month left until the next major update
lmao
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>had to alt f4 because my infant started crying
>Didn't get a reconnect notice
RIP sorry again. I'm just a washed unc now frfr
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>>579283991
Far Far West is a good game. Played it in beta and really enjoyed.
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>>579283991
the uninstall wizard
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time for some lazy sunday snorevocs..
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>>579283251
>major
Nah they’ll patch some stuff up and that’s it.
>>579284709
Make sure you win or else.
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Shame nobody here tested the DLSS 5 on darktide, looks like AI slop and I understand the concerns behind downloading random shit from a random discord, but still - shame.

Also the fucking ratnigger is back, from the looks of it
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>>579284214
Darktide ain't for babies
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>>579283991
No More Room in Hell 2 is a good game. Played it in early access and really enjoyed.
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>>579283251
Ogryn getting new weapon families. And having it be more than just 1.
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>>579284982
Not him, but just won my lazy sunday snorevoc.
Feels good.
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I just saw a chinsecktoid one shotting normal zombies with a tree trimmer charged attacks. That was a hacker right? Nightmare if that matters.
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>>579286257
Yup, treetrimmer + headhunter perk is 78 dmg.
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>>579283251
>About a month left until the next major vacation
ftfy
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>>579285373
If you think it will make ugly women look hot think again
It just hallucinates detail like makes textures less shiny and polished or blurry and adds pores and wrinkles
You will either not see any difference or women will become uglier. Maybe you'll see better in the dark. Either way it tanks performance so why bother?
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>>579288710
Oh I'm not saying that it will magically look good now, I'm not an AI jeet.
I was just curious, let's call it morbid curiosity, to see my favourite game get real-time AI slopped for like a screenshot or two.
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>>579283991
>which one do you think is better?
Neither, play more darktide instead.
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Has anyone checked in on rogue core lately? Did they make it fun yet?
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>>579200631
what the fuck happened? so many posts got deleted
>>579200749
>>579200796
alcohol is bad for you.
please drink responsibly
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Make all escape sequences as violent as Hab Dreyko
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>>579283991
I like No More Room in Hell 2 more. Far Far West got old like 10 hours in for me, and I'm still at less than 20 hours played on that whereas I've put 50 into NMRIH2 so far. But they're pretty different games
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>>579291436
The escape is my favorite part of that map, it's perfect.
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for the first time ever my team actually kicked the retarded speedrunner
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>>579291436
The havoc twins spawn in that section has killed so many teams. Pure kino.
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What the hell happened here?
Why are so many posts deleted?
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>>579295483
Brownoid spergout
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Ok if you get the tox gas modifier you might as well just reset your assignment because you are NOT winning that shit
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>gets executed
>still runs the commissary as usual
?
Also what do I do if I want to use a different weapon with low mastery? I know about brunt's-sacrifice pipeline but I dunno if I have enough money to do that as a new player, got like 130k coins saved up. Can I just use them unmastered in heresy (or damnation when I get to that)?
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>>579296343
>still runs the commissary as usual
Probably a bug, she's supposed to get turned into a servitor.
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>>579296343
EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE
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>>579294249
you already posted this in /vm/
norwegian twat
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>>579296343
You can run a blue weapon in heresy if you want. Otherwise get whatever the "best" roll gold weapon you have in Damnation with good blessings, not even maxing to 500 is needed or required, and leveling up mastery there. Weapon stats don't matter that much in Damnation and below, if you know what you are doing and have a proper build. Nothing wrong with playing on Heresy and have a bit lower mastery gain if you are winning on that diff consistently either.
I didn't even bother Brunt maxxing weapons mastery til I have like hundred hours in game.
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>>579296343
>what do I do if I want to use a different weapon with low mastery?
Check if Melk has one that's already orange and high ilvl for you. Instead of the brunt thing, you should just check your shop often and buy up any weapons above profane that you see for weapons you haven't mastered yet. After a while you can dump em on Hadron whenever you feel like trying a new weapon out. Probably won't be getting you to max mastery from 0 or anything, but it will give you a good chunk to start off with.
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>>579296343
I'm not too experienced with the game, but I think if you're starting out you want to simply run missions
>Have a loadout with 1 weapon that you're strong with and 1 weapon you're levelling (eg. high level melee and low level ranged)
>Do missions, earn weapon xp, earn resources
>then after store refresh check the store and buy any green weapon (not blue or higher) of the type you want to level and sacrifice that to Hadron
>buy any blue, purple etc weapon that is stronger than what you have + has blessings that are actually useful so you can more easily run missions with the weapon-to-level

Buying the brunt mystery weapons will become very dockets expensive at high level, so it's cheaper to buy an already-green weapon when it's available (or the occasional grey and upgrade that). My point here is that the brunt-sacrifice pipeline alone is for older players with a 300k dockets, 20k plasteel and 5k diamantine because it's extremely resource intensive.

Until you are max level it's not worth it to buy the grey Brunt mystery weapons to upgrade later. When you are level 30 and can afford it, if you're still low-weapon-mastery then it IS worthwhile to buy mystery weapons- but you're actually buying them to get a weapon that will have the best dump-stat. You'll probably have to buy a dozen random weapons to get one that has the right stat at 60%. Then you'll be left with 11 random weapons with shit stat distributions that you can then upgrade at the Shrine and then sacrifice.

Another thing is to take the opportunity now to start new classes and test them out, and because you'll be a low level character having low level, low mastery weapons won't be such a pain.
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>>579294249
Holy shit this sucks
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>>579277153
Screenshot sleuth fag here. No, you're many hours late, anon, I'm somewhat confident you're off the mark, albeit not entirely incorrect.
The retard who got banned did have a 19-hour-long schizophrenic/trolling episode or something and did samefag a fuckton to create a false narrative and artificial conversations, but he wasn't skilled or smart about it, because he's a real life retard. What you are discovering is the fact that at least +1 user also got banned, because after the first one's posts disappeared, a second poster who even replied to mentions of schizo tard being banned, also got banned. There is a very good chance you are seeing two separate morons interacting with each other.
Assume I'm talking out of my ass because I don't really care enough to put my own archive under the microscope and compare it to the online archive and double check, but I am fairly certain that there is at least +1 other poster occasionally interacting with the retard.
I can only guess as to what got the second one banned, but I would assume similarly extremely low quality posts, bait, and off-topic trolling.
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>>579279408
>mk3 plasma schizo samefag (formerly arbites schizo)
Anon it is time to start taking your meds again. You must be calling at least 3-4 different individuals "arbites schizo". I know because you've called (Me) that in severely schizophrenic error at least twice, and I clearly didn't post retarded shit like >>579229083 picrel as evidenced by being able to post this. You're hallucinating, man.
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>>579300795
He thinks everyone who gets
>raped his ass
Replies of support are the same person
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>>579301078
>everyone who gets
>>raped his ass
>Replies
Yeah I seem to be getting those a lot. I don't really consider severely brown humor to be funny and would prefer the users who post that to get lynched IRL for obvious reasons, but I also acknowledge they aren't going anywhere because >>579210564 is unfortunately objective truth.
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>>579301356
>Yeah I seem to be getting those a lot
Me too
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>>579301356
I get that a lot too. I've noticed that is one very aggressive autist doing it where he needs to be the one correct and have the last word, always happens if anyone brings up havok.
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>>579283251
Zealot Rework.
Only recently picked up the class for real because i thought he looked boring.
Turns out the class was made for me but 80% of his "skill tree" is mandatory.

Oh and new weapons.
For every class desu.
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>>579302290
>havok
See >>579224753
The resident false-flag samefag brownposter being an obnoxious retard doesn't make you any less ESL or brown yourself.
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>>579286119
Based keep at it :)
>>579290814
Preach it brother
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>>579302290
it's spelled havoque
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>>579229083
But those are funny...
It's a satirical comment on the absurdity of anons getting obsessed in retarded internet debates.
The use of humor to diffuse the argument.
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oi
bangin' out some 'avies with the lads
CAM ON
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>>579304619
Depends on the context, if someone uses it ironically or clearly to shitpost - sure, the indian was using it to falseflag as other people agreeing with him, AND as a, like, a false crowd in the background, just chilling out, normalizing his brown spergout

fucking batshit insane, mind you he did it for 19 hours straight

but fuck him and fuck offtopic discussions like these
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>>579304864
wrecked that anus
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>>579227636
Based poster keeping the general alive against the gacha onslaught
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>>579304864
ate his fish'n'chips
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>>579296343
>still runs the commissary as usual
As a lobotomized robot yes. Did you not notice that?
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>>579303992
have-cock*
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>>579302513
Anon, replacing a C with a K isn't revolutionary when it comes to writing.
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>>579304864
Stole his izzat
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>>579306954
It isn't, but it's always some retarded brownoid trying to use the Havok physics engine as a gotcha because they genuinely have never heard the word "havoc" due to being filthy, illiterate ESL turd-worlders.
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>>579307138
Mhm
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>>579302354
Funnily enough before his last rework he also had one "correct" build
At least now you can branch out a little, and as you said builds are only 80% similar to each other, instead of 95%
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Lore Check. What ARE these actually? I know the shop called them "Important Canisters" but like, they must do something right?
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Which one of the premium classes is worth playing first in Darktide?
The Arbiter looks cool, but I don't like P2W shit.
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>>579309649
Scum first if you're a returning oldfag. It's too hard for newfriends.
Skitarii if you're genuinely new, it's a fair class and a good generalist.
Arbitrator last regardless, save the best for last.
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>>579309574
yeah they carry the important stuff
duh
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>>579304645
I'm queueing Ogryn :)
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>>579309574
promethium tank or some kinda chemical weapon not elaborated on since lore doesn't cover it
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>>579300795
I misfired once or twice, it happens. Doesn't help that he samefags all the time so when you support his point, it's easy to get confused.
Doesn't change the fact that he's shitting the thread with his Izzat hysteria and shit takes all the time.
>as evidenced by being able to post this
My entire point was that banned shitposter is a different person and was imitating Izzat spammer (among other posters). Another giveaway is a different timezone.
>>579301078
Well that's because most of the it is. I too got this reply a few times but only when I was pretending to be retarded.
I don't care if it's a samefag or an ongoing discord raid, it's all the same to me.
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>>579309574
>>579310114
actually nvm, take that back. It looks like the horus heresy charonite backback. Which is some kind of life support/reactor combo.
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>>579300795
Oh never fucking mind, it's literally (you) again and you have the audacity to spam your Izzat schizo yapping and pretending to be someone else in the same fucking reply chain.
It was stupid of me to even consider that I could be wrong lmao.
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>>579310681
>>579305643
>>579310082

I know it's you btw
ban evading fuck
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>>579310681
>I misfired once or twice, it happens. Doesn't help that he samefags all the time so when you support his point,
No, retard, you need to take your fucking meds.
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>>579311116
>>579311124

Nobody but him capitalizes izzat, seeing as it's just a meme for us but a vital cultural component for him
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>>579311274
>us
Your discord? Send an invite :)
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>>579311360
us as in the real human beings you subhuman ratjeet fuck
kill yourself
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>>579311116
>arby schizo
>izzat izzat izzat
>mk 3 plasma retard
>everyone that disagrees with me is the same person
Dear lord you must be unironically Indian to have this much of a mental malfunction just because a poster you didn't like pointed out your brown behavior.
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>play vermintide
>braindead backwards filthy uneducated enemies worship nurgle, objectively the most disgusting thing ever
>play darktide
>it’s the future, everything is way more advanced
>people still worship nurgle, objectively the most disgusting thing ever
There are other gods or whatever right? Why did the gross one stick around so long?
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>alienclick
>spitters can track your position from behind their cover and yours and fire perfect arcs completely silently that will always direct hit you even if you are at a full tilt sprint perpendicular to them
>synth snipers can line up a shot on you even when you're behind a wall, and will take the shot instantly when you pop out with zero warning, as well as have their beam just beam invisible, and shoot you while you are behind waist high cover and the beam is showing as firing over your head
>even if you dodge a pouncer their grapple still connects anyway
difficulty through extremely poor game design
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>>579311787
Nurgle is a very nice guy who welcomes anyone and shares his blessings freely
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>>579309574
>>579310114
>>579310832
They were clearly planning on giving something like a heavy flamer or whatever for ogryn at some point but then changed their mind.
Though seeing that the current regular flamer and flame staff are horribly overpowered, something like a heavy flamer would just be pure cancer in terms of balance and there isn't a way to balance it since it'd quite literally just be the current zealot flamer but better.

It'd have more range, more damage, more ammo and better applying burn onto enemies. Also in fluff heavy flamers burn hot enough where they have some armor penetration to them as well, so it'd mean the ogryn heavy flamer would do more damage to carapace and flak as well logically speaking.
So not surprising they haven't given ogryn this as a weapon.
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>>579311620
>can't help inserting le funny buzzword into every other post for no reason
>gets mad when called out
Must really suck being this oblivious
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Ah yes, my favorite cosmetic.
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>>579312210
But you're the one who gets mad when your brown behavior is being called out. You hallucinated >>579279408 and then started your threadly meltie in >>579311116 both completely unprompted. You are now even tripling down in the brownest way imaginable.
What triggered you this time? Was it >>579301356 quoting >>579210564 ?
Or are you the same ratjeet that had an entire thread-long meltdown, now ban evading?
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>>579312210
You getting really skibidi ohio mad on god emperor
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>>579311913
What you're describing only makes sense in theory.
In practice, ogryn has the rumbler, which has literally all of the problems you are describing. In a vacuum, the rumbler is a better weapon than even psyker's flame staff. The staff only pulls ahead because psyker has Perilous Combustion and Creeping Flames, and not actually even because it has infinite ammo. Rumbler just rapes its way even through h40 with such efficiency that you can't run out of ammo between pickups, provided that you're the only one taking any, and get to double dip ammo crates.

Regardless of whether the rumbler is a balance problem (it very much is), it would be incredibly hypocritical to not add a heavy flamer because it might theoretically be too strong when they haven't touched rumbler's or GG's performance at all. They even technically buffed soulblaze semi-recently, even if the buff was relatively small.
Also it being a heavy flamer, it could have higher upfront damage but atrocious crit rate and no crit blessing (no way of building extra burn stacks), or any number of other arbitrary game mechanic decisions in favor of balance. No need to copy zealot's flamer and just make it stronger.
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>>579312397
Nice projection
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>>579312397
of course it's fucking him
look at the behaviour
he ALWAYS must get a last word in, ALWAYS, every SINGLE FUCKING TIME

see:>>579312531
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>>579312646
>quadrupling down with a "no u" because he must have the last word
I accept your concession, Sukhdeep.
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>>579311787
Warhammer gods derive their strength from more than just worship, in fact that's only a small part of the equation. First and foremost they're made manifest by the collective thoughts and feelings of the living in realspace. Nurgle in particular is as constant as the human experience of despair, fear of death and disease.
He's only part of a quartet of chaos gods though, there are Khorne, Slaanesh, and Tzeentch as well, but none of them lend themselves to a game about mowing down hordes of enemies nearly as much, although you'll find elements of them anyway, especially in Vermintide's chaos wastes.
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>>579312397
It is the banned ratjeet, he just came back to get his ass clapped again.
Ban evading is stupidly easy on PC sadly, all you need to do is to just turn your router off and then back on again. And you can do this endlessly.
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>>579312908
>UTC+3 turd-world time zone
Literally not a single civilized country uses that time zone.
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>>579313171
would make sense that he's a russian, they also can't let shit fly, he's arrogant, won't accept that others might be right, and uses outdated memes.

It's my schizo theory, but it makes some sense if you ever had to interact with those fucks
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>>579313419
Just wait for him to imply that anyone that disagrees with him and uses proper grammar must be American.
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>>579313419
>uses outdated memes
this is one funny way for a zoomer to come out
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nigger you're using memes from 10 years ago, shut the fuck up ivan
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>>579312605
>it would be incredibly hypocritical to not add a heavy flamer because it might theoretically be too strong when they haven't touched rumbler's or GG's performance at all.
And you say this like rumbler and GG aren't on the chopping block next. Fatshark and all the playtesters are 100% aware of rumbler spam and how much cancer that is, same goes for GG. And all of them hate ogryn, and hate that the class is actually good. We have all seen how ogryn gets treated.

Them making a heavy flamer and giving it to ogryn would unironically just be a direct upgrade compared to rumbler or GG. Remember, PBB and BLO refund ammo to ogryn so much that you're basically at net neutral with your ammo consumption or even GAIN ammo if you're lucky. And this is before you factor in Veteran with ammo aura. Heavy Flamer wouldn't be any different, and it has better horde clear and elite rape potential than rumbler or GG would. Those 2 just do direct explosion damage instead of DoT.

And you're completely naive if you think the heavy flamer wouldn't just be a better version of the zealot flamer. Them giving it more upfront damage would just be another direct upgrade because they sure as hell aren't going to make the bigger fucking flamethrower that shoots MORE FIRE, apply magically LESS BURN onto enemies than the smaller one.

Also the blessings, like Ever Lasting Flame, wouldn't even matter on the heavy flamer because it'd just have a larger fuel tank as a baseline, because you know, it's the fucking heavy flamer carried by an ogryn. Meaning ogryn doesn't even need the blessing.

Also the heavy flamer would still regardless share a shit load of the blessings with the flamer anyway because there's literally 1 flame based weapon with a magazine in the game currently.
They already even reused Penetrating Flame and Show Stopper blessing on inferno staff anyway, only reason it doesn't share more blessings is because it is a psyker staff weapon with no ammo.
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anyone wants to do weaves with me?
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>>579313059
That’s only if you have a dynamic IP though, phone is the new meta for that
>>579311787
Nurgle is still around because his respective concepts still continue to thrive in the future, worship is a very minor part of that
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You play with your kids right /coop/?

That said, while his kid was pretty damn new, it was pretty adorable to see. It also helped that I was a Boomgryn, so I could carry the lil guy.
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>>579311829
sadly the same as the first game seems like they’re going to do it all over again
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>>579314348
>you say this like rumbler and GG aren't on the chopping block next.
Yes, I am. What you're saying has been commonly repeated for fucking ages now, and they remain untouched. They remained untouched even as other overpowered weapons were nerfed. In fact, the rumbler has been an overpowered god-tier weapon ever since havoc came out. No, this isn't some revisionist history shit, it was just "sleeper" because none of the retards knew, everyone thought ogryn was bad, arbitrator release spawned this SEVERELY FUCKING RETARDED sentiment that it somehow replaced ogryn (LOL) and now the only reason people started actually paying attention is because PBB received a bunch of fuckhuge and way overboard buffs, making the rumbler downright retard-proof in its overpoweredness.
But fundamentally, it's not a new phenomenon at all. Darktards are just too slow and retarded to develop their meta without being force fed by popular content creatgroids, and those have no incentive to actually improve or put out good builds because their target audience consists of the dumbest niggers imaginable, they themselves are part of that audience because they all suck ass, and financial incentives are more biased toward retarded clickbait than actual truth.
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>>579314595
cute
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>>579314348
>>579312605
>>579311913

I can imagine them making the heavy flamer work a little bit like Bardin's irondrake cannon or whatever the fuck it was called (but with ammo): You have to charge up to intake fuel from the tank into the weapon, and then you fire in a relatively short burst. So they could keep the burst high-damage, and just fucking obliterate the fire rate on the thing, while keeping it high ammo.

truth be told they don't even need to make it high ammo, they could do similar bullshit as the lasgun ammo numbers; yeah you've got hundreds of ammo units, but you burn like 15 per second
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>>579316062
Yeah it's easy to forget that this is a really dumb video game developed by actual retards. Bigger does not equal more powerful. The dueling sword has always been stronger than the massive two-handed chainsword. The tiny little las pistol has such obnoxious boss DPS that you can kill some of them before they even have a chance to get into melee, compared to every other, much larger las weapon that simply cannot hold a candle to this DPS output (except maybe helbore).
>inb4 some retard implies that I'm suggesting this is a good thing
No, I'm pointing out how things are, not how they should be. My opinion on the matter has nothing to do with the reality of the situation.
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>>579316350
the balance in this game is truly whack, like some of the starting weapons of each class are BIS or just S+ tier (laspistol, combat axe, shovel), and others are unusable nigger dogshit
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>>579316686
>combat axe, shovel
Ah I see we've changed gears to saying a half truth and then using it to troll in the most retarded way.
Here's your (You)
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>>579316787
okay I maybe trolled a lil too much but they're good weapons and I like them
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>>579317196
They're good but the only time combat axe has been S-tier was some time close to release.
The actual truth is, though, that the starting weapons are indeed stupidly powerful specifically for the DLC classes. But on the flip side you have veteran starting with the worst gun in the game.
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>>579286257
I saw this again, this time by a regular person. Is there something going with this weapon in particular? The guy wasn't even aiming for the head, he just swung at their torsos to dismember them.
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>>579317348
>the starting weapons are indeed stupidly powerful specifically for the DLC classes
Makes sense - they're frontloading the fun for the tourists that will drop the class shortly after buying it.
Sucks that we have two categories of citizens (basegamekeks and dlcpiggies), but it is what it is.
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>>579317596
At least the overall balance is mostly okay. Basegame classes have access to some really powerful shit relatively early too, the main issue is that noobs and tourists will never find out because they simply lack the ability to inform themselves, which is in part owed to darktide's overall community being hella fucking retarded and having no worthwhile guides. I'd say the only real balance outlier, among DLC classes, is arbitrator being p2w journalist mode in difficulties below damnation, and still being a humongous crutch in damnation-auric. Not that other classes don't outcompete, but other classes aren't functionally invulnerable (even if retards still find a way to die on arbitrator somehow). At least arbitrator falls off hard past havoc 30 lol.
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>>579317348
Combat axe is s-tier right now because swedes untucked decapitator.
Can't say it was s-tier before this change, but it was exceptionally good on arbitrator when it released (before the rebalance that indirectly nerfed arbites). HP increase hurt it a lot though.
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>>579318209
It isn't. Go and use your meme axe on veteran and try to tell me with a straight face that it's better than the power sword. It looks like a fucking joke next to the psword. On zealot? A fucking joke next to the relic blade. On psyker? LOL LMAO. Scum is literally the only class it is good on, and on scum specifically, I agree that it is indeed S-tier, but no other class can use it to any effect. And this is also only because scum's skill tree is S-tier and makes even dogshit weapons like the heavy sword look quite strong.
>um ackchewally
Okay, post a side-by-side recording deboonking any of the above. You won't.
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>>579318402
>forgot arbitrator has access to it
It's also decent on arbitrator, but the opportunity cost of giving up either of the class specific weapons still isn't worth it.
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>>579318402
>It isn't.
>I agree that it is indeed S-tier
???
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>>579318616
>it's good on a hyper-specific build on a singular class in the game therefore I can justify making a retarded blanket statement
Shut the fuck up streetshitter, I'm fed up with you turd-world filth.
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>>579318402
NTA but I'd argue that it's not that good on scum, it feels weirdly slow compared to the shivs insta-blending anything in front of you.

I found most success with it on a Zealot, with FotF and Marty/the rightmost keystone, whatever it is called. Felt good to chop like 2-3 times and see
>literally everything but the crusher/mauler
in front of you die.
It is actually really good now, again it feels like it should be better on scum but I didn't like it on him
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>>579319212
>Zealot
Requiring FotF and martyrdom on zealot is unfortunately just the sign of a pretty bad weapon, anon. Zealot is an underwhelming class and you picked the worst ability. Any damage zealot build is, at best, mediocre in auric and barely viable in h40. The relic blade will outperform your meme axe without requiring FotF or a keystone.
>it feels like it should be better on scum but I didn't like it on him
This might be because you fell into the trap of copying other scum builds, and every scum ever having been repeatedly dropped on the head as children (and possibly adults). A full rampage + AF build with a high viscosity stimm, taking every attack speed increase possible and at least 2 stamina curios, turns the combat axe into a pretty mean blender. You'll chop carapace heads in a couple lights before you even realize they were there. It's actually quite impressive how much damage it can put out.
>but other weapons can do it too
Yeah, it's melee scum. If anything, that's a sign that the weapon isn't that good, if other weapons can achieve the same shit on scum. The decapitator change is the only thing that makes it pull ahead slightly, but I don't think there is even much of a gap between it and the dual shivs. I'd have to run actual comparisons to verify this.
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>>579314972
>and they remain untouched.
For now.
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>>579318402
>Go and use your meme axe on veteran
He wasn't even talking about veteran but arbites.
Everyone knows combat axes suck dick on veteran. Only usable weapons on vet are power sword, DS and combat knife.
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>>579319830
>A full rampage + AF build with a high viscosity stimm, taking every attack speed increase possible and at least 2 stamina curios, turns the combat axe into a pretty mean blender
Yeah that's what I tried, man, I know it outdamages the moldy ass rusted-over Zealot, but as I said, I feel like the shivs just attack faster and kill shit faster.
I tried it in h40s and it felt like I needed to push way more than on the shivs, I really didn't like it, I'd rather zoom around with the shivbuild with the occasional push
I was running rashad Decap/Momentum IIRC, on the scum, are you running like crit blessings? The fucking 5% per chained hit, whatever it is called, shred or sth
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>>579320027
nta but I hate this paranoia of "oooo they gon nerf our shit dawg". Why would they want to make Ogryn stuff weak for a giant?
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>>579320316
Tac axe has always been better on arbitrator than combat axe, and neither weapon compares to the brute strength of the maul, or the utility of the shield maul. The tac axe build is also specific enough to invoke >>579318701 because it is literally a singular viable build with the only choice you can even make being that of which keystone you pick. I forget whether BTL/AV is stronger than EO rending, but I would suspect that it is because it's what the small handful of 2 million damage h40 arbitrators used.
And yet arbitrator is one of the weaker classes in h40.
>>579320534
>I feel like the shivs just attack faster and kill shit faster.
They do attack faster, and probably do kill trash faster. I can't say with any certainty whether the axe is slower or faster against mixed hordes, but I felt a lot better using the axe than using the shivs.
>it felt like I needed to push way more
This is true but not a big problem with the combat axe, since its push attack is really fucking good against hordes.
But yes, the loss of mobility is indeed real, and probably the biggest drawback in havoc. Pulling out my gun for mobility is deeply ingrained in my muscle memory after playing a lot of arbitrator so I have no problem with it.
>blessings?
Same shit as you. 100% viscosity stimm with attack speed and rending, rending on Rampage, AF with the 20s node, obviously pathing through Hyper-Violence.
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>>579320887
>I hate this paranoia of "oooo they gon nerf our shit dawg".
Same and it's fucking retarded, BUT
>Why would they want to make Ogryn stuff weak for a giant?
This is an established pattern by now. Someone post the image.
>ogryn is useless dogshit
>gets buffed
>ogryn is decent now
>the entire community has a collective meltie that ogryn is allowed to be strong
>psyssies dilate over not having the taunt diapy in their havocs and getting outscored by... the SUPPORT CLASS????
>ogryn gets completely kneecapped with undeserved and completely overcorrective nerfs
>ogryn is now useless dogshit
>ogryn gets buffed over the next 3 patches
>rinse, repeat
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>>579249192
>>But you play him at 1 hp for the damage
You actually play him at 25% HP, which gives you a bit of buffer against chip damage while still letting you remain at maximum Martyrdom stacks. And as long as you're not taking more than 25% damage every 2 minutes(relatively easy considering the amazing damage reduction&toughness replenishment nodes you have), you're pretty much invulnerable.
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>>579321461
>Someone post the image.
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>>579321761
Yeah, this, thanks.
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>>579249192
>make it make sense
Zealot can be extremely tanky on the way down to 1hp, if you take bleed for the emperor and restoring faith.
this is why i usually start by taking off 2-3 wounds first, and use the rest as a health buffer. you don't NEED to have martyrdom maxed out at all times.
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>>579314595
>actual dad gamer with whelp in tow
Wtf……
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>>579320887
>paranoia of "oooo they gon nerf our shit dawg".
Brother, it's not paranoia because it's fucking true.
Also people have been harping about the rumbler and flame staff for years now, only reason why Fartshart hasn't kneecapped them into irrelevancy is purely because they haven't yet figured out how to do that.
Also you should never forget Dueling Sword and Uncanny Strike, all that shit went unnerfed for literally years as well and only recently before Skitarii did the devs finally reign in both the Dueling Sword and the blessings.

Also it is not at all surprising the devs are scared as fuck to touch anything because we saw that one time they leaked the chinese version of the patch notes early, where it outlined the plasmagun and dueling sword nerfs.
The chinks instantly went off the deep end, had a gigantic temper tantrum and started to review bombed the game to shit. Because all of them crutched on those weapons massively.

Fatshark is 200% aware that if they nerf the flame staff, it'd cause similiar shitshow with the chinese who do make up a large part of the playerbase.
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inferno staff is both very strong AND overrated
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>>579322392
>if they nerf the flame staff, it'd cause similiar shitshow
I wish they did. I wish they fucking nerf the flamestaff and buff the other 2 nonviable ones (zap, ball) into relevancy because I love playing with the flamestaff and I hate how it's mandatory, I wish there were actual options so I don't have to feel like a fucking metaslave for picking it

>>579322648
>strong AND overrated
Yup, the Voidblast with correct blessing is as strong if not stronger while being more mobile, but people are sleeping on it for reasons unknown
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>>579322949
>for reasons unknown
It's pretty hard to use compared to just brainlessly farting everywhere
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>>579322648
It's only overrated in the minds of havoc players who have played darktide for 2000+ hours, and mainly now play the cock and ball torture simulator for 1000+ hours and have gotten bored of using the burn stick and now get their fun by running esoteric meme builds like great sword, electro ball spam psyker because it is the only way they can have challenge and fun.

T. have played DT 2300+ hours and mainly only play havoc now
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>>579323049
The flame staff is overrated in the sense that even the most retarded of ASS-let shitters that will never even touch havoc, constantly parrot it being too strong for whatever reason, when the objective and quantifiable reality of the matter is that other staves outperform it in auric. It's just that they consume exclusively clickbait havoc builds, which are then the only builds they play that actually do anything, so they conclude the flame staff must be the culprit, when the actual problem is their retarded inability to make their own builds and having no good staff build to copy.
I don't use the flame staff if I want to win aurics.
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>>579322949
>but people are sleeping on it for reasons unknown
Clunky and unintuitive to use.
People need to realize what makes a best weapon isn't just the damage it can shit out, what matters just as much is how EASY it is to use the weapon to get maximum effectiveness out of it.
Flame staff is King purely because it does shit out damage by the millions, but the gameplay loop for it is incredibly simplistic and easy to do.
Like it's so easy you could probably have a bot play it for you.
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>>579323254
>I don't use the flame staff if I want to win aurics.
Me neither, I just use my greatsword and electro staff and zap my way to victory because it is Fun
I've used the flames staff in aurics, it just makes the game a snooze fest honestly.
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>>579323514
What you described also happens to be the strongest build available to psyker in aurics.
Flame staff is not only boring, but also can't deal with a full surround of trash shooters (your only option is to run and kite them into a pile or zip around shanking them with your knife) all of which is a time sink. Flame staff can't kill faraway or balcony gunners that are constantly plinking away at your retards who now die in droves. It practically requires that you use bubble if you want it to be effective in auric, and that has its own issues.
It's not that it isn't effective, but rather, that under the assumption that you must completely solo hard carry every auric ever because auric teammates are truly atrocious, having an actual leftclick is so much more valuable. Whatever damage the infinite meme cleave may cause, just cutting the heads of heretics with your greatsword is much better at in auric, so why brick your secondary slot into something that can't kill shooters and gunners good?
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>>579321829
Ogryn good? I play Ogryn
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Zealot feels a lot better after coming back from Vermintide now.
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>149 deleted posts
what the fuck? what did I miss?
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>>579326593
Ratfag meltie.
See >>579234170
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>>579326635
I see
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Give me a 17% or I'm going to get anti-social, Melk.
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>>579327486
>Varlet?
>Reject?
>Do you have any idea of who you're talking to?
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>>579326593
How many people here completely tuned out while all of that was happening? That’s kinda funny



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