Princess Edition>Current Featured Adventurer Banners:FFXI collab - Until 9/10-The Abhorrent One of Tavnazia, Prishe-Singer of the Rhapsodies, Iroha-Darksteel Hurricane, Zeid>Current Reminiscence Adventurer Banners:Heroes for the Ages until 9/9-Gillion, Livana, Aldric, Raffaello, Alt Debra, Alt Adam, Erwin, Shelirionach, Galbadus, Yuzunamiki, Yrsa>Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphne>Current Events/New Content:[Actual Nyontents] FFXI collab - Until 9/10-New story quest. Part 2 available now.-Relic Weapon crafting-Motherfucking full party heal megalixir (one-time-only)[FREE COLLAB LEGENDARY] check beginning abyss B1[More platforms] SteamOS/Linux workaround (the game still tries to delete itself)https://steamcommunity.com/app/2379740/discussions/0/583930834798645041/[August Roadmap] https://xcancel.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/2083116081246577148[4,000,000 Adventurers Celebration Campaign]https://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/campaign/2026082002/[Heroine of the Eventide Calm] Summer Elise althttps://wizardry.info/en/daphne/news/adventures/2026082001/>Fanguides:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrzhttps://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/ - (EN)https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/ - (JP)>Free 50 gems on each webstore every weekstore.wizardry.infowebstore.wizardry.info/product>Additional Links/Guideshttps://rentry.org/6mb5tx3tPrevious thread: >>578723757
>BE UNLEASHED>JUST A LITTLE MORE>Let's head back and grab a bite~
>>579147547You forgot the red hot Yoizou re-run and aspd nerf.
benis!
>>579148313just got my first benishow do i turn her into a farming machine?
>>579149506get her alt and merge with her baselevel her blash! to lvl 3benis :-DDDD
>>579149678surely anni comes with an alt selector
Bit rude to kill my party as part of the story progression in the collab quest then make me revive everyone. Now I gotta wait for the fortitude to come up
>>579150720Savor it
>>579149678How much is the 1 to 3 increase?
>>579151946From weaker than a basic attack to around the same as heavy attack.
Erwin's thief outfit will show his tummy
>>579152649that's pretty fucking big
Please buff Iroha...
>>579153258with what? wotw? you can give that out pretty easily nowadayswith her unique passives + wotw shes on par with any other mid fighter, non thief-subclass ess / paos spammer
Normally I dont like the shoehorned cat girl race in these games but I like the ones in daphne. They're charming, i dunno
>>579154612I get 80s catgirl vibes from Amelia's design, compared to the other catgirls.
>>579154959
>>579154612Agreed but catgirls have been in Wizardry since, what, 1990?
what weapons do you put on your KD slave?
A catgirl worthy of Wizardry...
Power of hatred.... From the bracelet... Iroha forgive me...
>>579153258She is so shit that she can't be saved >>579154508She is like mentally handicapped fighter that can only use spear. Can't really even use her heal as sh can't use staves like every other fighter.She would need to be made proper atk/div hybrid like samurai or ranger. Make her to be able to use staves and bows. Separate her combo attacks and make her being able to use them separately now/stave/spear to fill meter that allow her use her final form. >>579154612Every beast female in Daphne is top notch. Maybe outside savia.
Yrsa spit roast with Heinrico
How is your mining going? I got 2 LAS hits (golden pickaxe) so far.
>>579157897American hands typed this post
>>579154612>>579154959I started with Amelia because I liked her design but ended up dropping her later. She needs some kind of legendary alt to make her relevant
>>579157654Nah, you’re just retarded.
>>579157654>She is like mentally handicapped fighter that can only use spear.relook at her class passives she gets several atk buffsand spear isn't bad, you haven't rolled a good one, they're on par>Can't really even use her heal as sh can't use staves like every other fighter.in the scenarios you have fighters healing you probably have 5 other characters that can while she continues ess / poas to maintain her skillchain bonus
>>579158236At high discipline she's one of the better chest openers, but thieves really need a high cost spammable ability to take advantage of her great sp pool. At least she makes for a good fighter
Since the castle is remaining after the event, will we be able of grind the bondmates? I dont have the willpower to do it yet...
Benus.
>>579158692She is less versatile fighter.
>>579159796retard
>>579158715I got her HA lvl 5 and a SUR build and she's alright. I use her because I like her.>>579156775Y'sh would fit my beastwoman team like a globe. Dark skin backline mage/healer. God. But I already know that one isn't happening.
>>579149678i hate benis
>>579157654>Maybe outside savia.Savia's english voice is cute and hot as fuck.Her voice and personality is the only reason why she's in my party.
>>579155306>>579154959>>579154612Cats, buttholes, and sometimes even cat buttholes
Man because I reached another tier of level the NMs have suddenly become way harder to handle. The spirit one that I used to have an easy time with is now kicking my ass for some reason. Guess I might have to get further in Guarda and do the Requests there.
>>579163027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQkA59F2thg>wizardry iv is so hard that most people can't even get out of the first room>you play as the villainthat made me want to play it
Isn't shadowlord pretty good for incense farming? It's 4 incenses for a 5 minutes boss fight.
do I miss out on anything by not doing the 3rd run of the FFXI collab?
>>579167798you miss out on the highly anticipated roller coaster of a ride that is the true ending of the collaband a bondmate thats kinda mid even for the featured adventurers
>>579166356There's a cool walkthrough of the game if you want to read it. I can't imagine trying to play it blind.https://lparchive.org/Wizardry-IV/
>>579168082i have a terrible sense of direction and I've changed my mind what the fuck is this
>>579162370>shtola>b*astfolk mage/healerimagine the racist lulu comments when she sees a beastfolx doing magic
>>579168964Filtered.
>>579169202
>>579169313So this is the power of the b**st folk...
>>579169206it was a good watch but I don't think it's a very fun game to play. one of the puzzles requires you to beat ultima 4 (because the director working on that game was the same as wizardry 4) to know what to do without looking at a guidethat is just asinine
Get disciplined brown elf BRAT
>>579170152Garbage spotted.
>>5791579714 lfas and 1 fasGonna hope for another fas hit
When Godfrei casts Nofis, that's pretty much him telling you he's got fuck all health left isn't it? I stupidly died then I and can't be bothered fighting him.
>>579170072Thank you for keeping the game alive whalekun
>>579171323not like 1 hp but more like a single hp bar left so theres no more thresholds after that
When Agora takes over Alice, does her anus turn black too?
>>579160403Yeah, I know that you are one. No need to shout twice.
>>579172310Did you get sold by your mom to some Aussie tourist or what? Why you relive your trauma here?
Wordsworth collab when?
>>579147547I-I should use lana again...
>>579176012it was a simple question no need to crash out lil' bro
>>579138802What the fuck!?! how am I just now learning you can do this?
>>579185965this game is pretty good for a gacha huh?
a silver tier bow is still better right?or should I save it for some endgame content
>>579187363Alter the last blessing to SUR and you get a pretty good bow.
>>579187363Silver is better for fighting a lot of generic mobs, but Dark Type enemies are a real threat like Necrocore, Morgus, or Demons (Including NMs) in the collab.
i stopped farming because there are no nyontents
>>579189456And that's okay. I only started playing again because of the collab.
I just hit 300 Ouroboros stones (even after remaking Relics 3 times) without a single FAS. I think I'm just going to quit, this is too much.
not sure how to flick the mouse on pc to hook? I have to press R to actually snag the fish and not just move the rod
guys, I'm scared. I think this isnt a place for me right now.
>>579192551that negrocore is nothing your fine
>>579192551Mausoleum scales like events do and always has a chance to instakill you, no matter what point you visit it
>>579192737thanks god. yeah, it was rather easy. can you tell me if is better to open the chest or pray to the alter?>>579192954wait, the guide told me he will protect me
>>579193038>pray to the alteruhhh I think its probably a waste of gemsjust reenter the mausoleum if you dont get a bone until you max out all the boners.
benis
>>579193264>until you max out all the boners.there is a limit?
>>579193038In the mausoleum, the left entrance is always the fastest one.
>>579193428nvm, seems the limit is one. I cant enter the other rooms>>579193507the fastest you mean the highest chance to get bone?
>>579193590now I'm understanding this. I thought it was just one map, but there is several for each class.
I use Abenius, Lana, Alice and Yuzunamiki. I hope the new adventurer is meta so my team can finally be complete. Preferably a frontliner so my MC can remain in the backline, since that way his chances of dying are reduced.
Are "EVA, EVA%, SUR and SUR" the ideal blessings for a ninjato?
We were totally banging Lulu's brains out when we were human right?
it's a brand new dayrabbits and goblins start hearing boss musicthey tremble at the idea of a party of 6 guided by a masked man committing genocide in the quiet baileys for the next 16 hours
>>579194756
autoing scorpion ladies while reading isekaislopneed 30 more runs
I need books, anons! just two more levels to take the test. where do I get more books? I already bought all from the event
>>579194573Me when I'm a home of sexual
>>579194573I just want an Evil frontline buffer. There are cool characters like Zeid and Kagero who would be even cooler if they did 10% more damage.
Currently waiting on my fortitude to come back so I can finish A3 good end. How far into A4 do I need to get to unlock the Oni quest? I know apparently to fully finish it you have to get at least bad end of A4, but just to go there and start the eternal grind for samurai gear, what's the unlock point? Also, does part 1 of the samurai quest give the Odachi skills or does that come along with Samurai MC?
>>579171323Nofis threshold is the signal that labadios threshold is next which is the final one. You slow down to apply cortu and abit because labadios will kill a nofis'd party.>>579198998Nyalice is the frontline evil buffer. Good doesn't have a 10% protection option yet.>>579200431Odachi skills come from owning an odachi, separate from the oni island quest. Neo Sand Shadow Cave is the place to grind for the silver katanas.
>I'll create an opportunity!>-30 fortitudebenis :-DDDD
>>579201032beni-ACK
>>579201314why do people have trouble with the tonberry kang? i can almost auto it
>>579200667>Odachi skills come from owning an odachi, separate from the oni island questThere is clearly something else to it, because I have a Samurai equipped with a Masterwork Odachi I randomly got from the FF11 event and there's no request in the capital. I'm assuming I just have to unlock A4 or something, we'll see in a couple hours when I recover some more fortitude.
>>579201414Alright, record your auto-clear when he spawns for you today to share with the rest of the class.My party usually kills it between the two waves of demon spawns. If I bring Rinne over Kiriha and take the chronostasis gamble, I can kill him before any demon spawns. Non-auto of course because it is a short once per day fight.
>>579201957not him but why is your yuzu low poweven with a +10 pin and D1 you'd probably have like 3500
>>579202285Sir, that fox is pointing a bow at you.MC is holding my 1* pin.
>>5792019572 ninjas huhdoes crit fishing work on the tonberry or what
>>579203868nevermind me i can't read
>>579203868Multiple ninja subclasses gives you more attempts at voice theft if you are trying to use any melee weapons or chronostasis.At this point, I just let Kiriha try once on turn 1, then give up and beat him down normally.
>>579204575That's fair, but also now that grudge can be reset does it really matter? Or does the king just ignore it>I haven't tried him yet post the change
Does anyone have a screenshot of Erwin as a thief? I don't even plan to roll him but he's kinda sex.
>>579180658You are the one shitting in general. Designated shitting board are b, soc and pol. Although you probably more fit for mental asylum
>>579204806I would rather let grudge keep dealing 3000+ damage than give up the 150k gil
>>579205759I now have 1.5m gil, I've stopped going into the mines after hitting 300 ouro ores with just a single LFAS hitmining 16 hours a day was becoming slightly unhealthy>i don't even know why i still do trades
I wonder if they are going to change the mining rate after the event is over or it's just going to be the chest rate.
shadow benis
>>579201957>Alright, record your auto-clear when he spawns for you today to share with the rest of the class.if you can tell me where he spawns today i can record it, but im not gonna go out of my way to find him
>>579210776Z1 top right
How bad is Abyssal Strike if you inherit it on Masketta? I have 100 tokens for the collab shop and I'm not sure what to take. Only pulled a Prishe and won't be building her seriously so getting another copy to discipline feels pointless. I can always use more bones 1/2, but it might be nice to have a dark type physical attack in case we ever get more light type enemies again. Did anyone try it out?
>>579211731It's pretty good. It's like one tiny little bit weaker than DTS, but has the stun chance. It does better on multi-hit weapons, and can actually hit good numbers on a 3 hit weapon.
>>579211629https://streamable.com/epw3hnhere you go
>>579213169DTS tier sounds good. Then I'll take it might become handy when we get ranger MC or as Ninja when we get bones 3 and free Raven daggers.
I like the relicbrew guy. I wish he was an actual character we could get.
>>579213261Nice. I wasn't expecting auto to actually target him the whole time.I don't have DTS on my fighters so I have to alternate paos/heavy attack
>>579214997Speaking of relic brews, I found it cute that Corvo doesn't give the underaged characters alcohol.
lana's rotten stinky poop used as fertilizer for my crops
So almost at 100 pts for the collab exchange, are any of the collab weapons good? Honestly I don't really see myself using any of the collab characters anytime soon either since luck there has been pretty trash.
>>579214997You are a homiesexual, brother.
>>579170310garbage a month and a half
>>579218332Zeid's weapon is really good for him, but there's no reason to use it on someone else. Iroha's weapon is nice for her, but is even more specifically for her than Zeid's and doesn't dramatically improve her performance. Prishe's weapon fucking sucks dick.
>>579189456farm cyclops hammers
>>579218485>he wants to hang out with girlsonly gays do that
Chloe and Savia are pure sexo
>>579219079The cyclops hammer is shit
>>579222743yea but it looks cool
>trade successful>get item from merchant>tfw traded with a Gillionfag
>>579223108Dark Knights are just really cool. That's why I'm running Gillion and Zeid and taught them each other's unique skills for most maximum Dark Knight. Sorry your mind has been warped to only think about sex. Probably couldn't even appreciate a bad ass mech unless they bolted some big fake tits on it.
>>579224938>Gilliongay comparing himself to Fray Myste
>can convert Adventure 1 bones to Adventure 2why can't we do the same with the legendary bones?
>>579229713To restrict your monthly bounty bone. And remains 1 is better for your free legendary that you get on floor 2
>>579234302I want benis :(
>>579235095Gotta pay up for the monthly pass for more guild points.
What's a good ATK stopping point for fighters?800? 850?
>>579235865Past ~700 you'll gain more benefit from getting closer to 100+ SUR.
everyone wants benis
>>579229713Wait how do I convert?
>>579237606big bone icon on the perma banner
For the event, is there a way to auto load gold pickaxes? Doing it manually sucks.
>>579239623
>>579239623You can save preset parties holding pickaxes. That is your only shortcut.
It happened444 Ouroboros Ore9 LFAS3 FAS
>>579241330my turn next surely>also explode
Man I can't beat the arch shadow lord. I got to the part once where he does the double implosion - that's right at the end right? I guess I just have to get slightly good RNG on a run.I'm kinda new so my party isn't max level, but since it scales to your grade I've been holding off on grading up past 40.
>>579243598the first implosion is scripted interrupted, the 2nd means you've basically wonheal everyone when he readies it the 2nd time so nobody dies then one hit should kill him after
>>579243598Once he implosions, he will implosion every single turn. There is a bug where he becomes unkillable if you do too much danage
What's the best class for honed ability for masketta?
>>579243962Yeah, the first one is the scripted interrupt. Much later in the fight he used implosion, and then one turn after another implosion. The second one killed me. >>579245247kek seriously
>>579247496>Much later in the fight he used implosion, and then one turn after another implosion.Are you using benis by chance? Oblivion flash seems to bug him, also doing damage when he's readying implosion seems to bug him. He will implosion then ready implosion again. The turn where you're all at 1 HP don't heal just full send it, he should have 500HP left or so
So after Savia got her new outfit, is she better as a knight or thief now?
>>579248767a better beastwhore
>>579248767I ignore most of her passives and use her as a knight for cover skills / guardian blowbig beastfolk hp / sp if you're trying to make eva work though and want to use her unique skills that is a lot easier as thiefhowever, thief is kinda weak in general atm and knights are in the middle of their redemption arc
>>579239623it only takes a few seconds. go into your inventory and click the pickaxe then the + on until all characters are not selectable, then reduce it until you can give axes to everyone with one click.
>i share a general with gaysWtf i thought Gillion was for biological female Wizardry: Variants Daphne players.
Where do I put her points?
>>579253107Vit
>>579253195Just because I'm new doesn't mean I was born yesterday.
I beat regular Shadow Lord, do I have to Curse Wheel to get Cait Sith to tell me about Arch Shadow Lord or is she just hiding in the castle somewhere again?
wait wtf why can the tonberry king dispel my voice theft? I thought it can only dispel montino
>>579253292all str
>>579253327Wheel back to the beginning, then Cait is at the end of the first zone
JD...FAS doko...
>>579250894a-ack!
>>579248767the Alt new skill works better whit a 3-hitter weapon, since it applies 3 stack of taunt, it also deal a good amount of damage at high Eva
>>579253107all strwith 3-hit weps your going to want as much atk as you can get
>>579253292
>2000 gems spent and zero legendariesscam game
what's your opinion on what is codex worthy in the game as of today, to take to level 3 atleast?>Hue 3 no brainer>If prishe user: Asuran, Impetus (maybe)>benis blash!! :D>Astral break (? potentially)
>>579256709anon you're spending your anniversary savings....
>>579147547Rolling for this lana
>>579256727bamboo splitter is always goodunless they release some skill that invalidates it in A5
>>579149882hrmmm you know I hadn't thought about it but what did we get for last year's anni freebies?only 6 weeks to go I guess? maybe 7
>>579256803Correct and it was not worth it. I should have listened to you...
>>579256923a random + a choice iirc I got the crow dwarf and picked red dwarf for inherit
>>579256884to this day i still can't justify it for the average playerrelic katana surely made samurais far more approachable but its still a conditional skill locked behind crescent which easily turns your average samurai into a floor mat
>>579256727Nothing except Hue because at this point a level cap raise is relatively soon, and for all we know Boulder Splitter and MAPORTO are around the corner
>>579256709>>579256803>>579257264Nvm I take it back I had one extra bone and got Elise lol
>lvl 70>Solo MCis it possible?
>>579256727Depends on who your favorite character is, but I would say that Benis is not. Go to level 3 as soon as you're able, but she's in regular bones so you will get more skill exp for that eventually. Skill books are for shit that is impossible to inherit or at least something that comes around rarely like a collab character inherit.
>>579257312Wasn't it 2-3 guaranteed Legos? I think I got 2 Alice and 2 Galbussy from all the bones in the end.
>>579256884>bamboo splitter is always goodDisagree. It does a big number that looks good in a screenshot, but for taking on smaller shit the extra turn of setting up sucks and bosses are probably gonna hit you with some AoE that will fuck you up for being in Cresting Wave so you die or give up an entire character slot to spam Knight's Defense so still an overall DPS loss unless you have invested literally every resource you have into your samurai and your other characters weren't going to do damage anyway because they're so starved for stats.
>>579256727At least half of the legendary skills are good. Just try the LVL 1 version, and if you like it, then the LVL 3 version with +50% damage will be worth it.But the only legendary skills I have taken to 3 are hue, flash, agora, and Rinne mist. I am still not convinced on Prishe
>>579258834>bosses are probably gonna hit you with some AoE that will fuck you up for being in Cresting Wave so you die>still repeating this baseless memeOne day you'll get over the fact that a Japanese man bad touched your colon.
Ok I've just hit steel grade thanks to the event exp and gear but now the 8 demons are beating my ass in. How do I make my wives Yrsa and Ainikki stronger? feed her henrico or w/e for anticipated attack and wide volley? actually get bond mates and relicbrews?
Decided to just get Legendary Bones, who do I put Red Beard's skill on?
>>579258345Boners 2 though have a huge opportunity cost unless you need multiple of what they offer>MoF inherits, unlocking Wana's discipline, a single Redbeard, etcyou can't go wrong with 4 out of 6 inherits (5 if you use lana) out of boners1 but trying to fish Abenius copies seems a terrible use of bonesI suppose you could use your one in 150 pulls selector twice..
>>579258273whatyou can probably just oneshot them
I just started the event and finished floor 3, do I wanna get ALL the relic weapons from the jeweler or are some of them not worth getting?
>>579260162they're all pretty good, but some are more gooder than others, especially the 2h sword and bow, and katanya for other reasons (it's an easy to get katana)Idk how the 8demon situation is going so idk if it's still easy to farm
its time for you to face your true self...
>>579260372Benises(plural)
>>579260162I actually went staff first because I never cared to farm a good one before and it will likely last me through A5 into A6. Then 2h Sword because they are the OP weapons, then katanya. But bow would also be very good. I just know how hard it is to get katanas. I really wish they had a spear relic but they knew better the fuckers.
actually made me blush
>>579259596you favorite mage priest with an alice inheritor alice
i used to just use ninja mc for farming/chest opener, but recently ive just been using samurai mc for clearing with mage/thief chest opener(cause a4 r11 boxes needed some crazy stats)odachi is better than i thought and you can swap to katana when you need it
>>579257475Yeah, this. Plus anni too. You wouldn't want to not have books lying around for whatever busted shit is just around the corner, right?
Busted shit is only relevant if it comes with a cute girl like Yuzu.If it comes with an ugly goblin like Alice or a dwarf, then pass. Game isn't nearly hard enough to need to break it.
>>579262106What if anni is another trap and he's uber meta?
>>579262461doesn't matterI only roll for beastfolk women
>>579262461Don't care, not rolling.I'm not a homosex.
>>579262106I'd like another potat
>>579262652Gwo... (guane warped one)
>>579262652I didn't know I was in the presence of royalty.
>>579262461When will you faggots understand that I will never run a male in my party no matter what? Do you think I D9'd Amelia because of le meta? Every dungeon crawler I play is exclusively made up of my self-insert and harem. Why would Wizardry be any different?
>>579267593This but with evil women
>did enough bounties for the leggo bones>still need to get gems before monthly resetfuck it I'm going to sleep
I still haven't touched bounties
just reward yourself after doing a clops or dutz so you associate a bounty with better rewards then 500 gems or a lego copy you already have 10 oflike fap or something ya feel
>>579270774i have sex with my sister every time i fully clear the bounty shop it really makes the grind easy
>>579201314How do you spawn the king?
>>579269619yeah I've been putting them off since release. 2 more weeks and I'll get that master ring.
>>579273986I said that 2 months ago too
>>579267593i agree but d9 amelia is very useful and a not pure waifu pick like using bibi
>>579281317>I strongly disagreeGets me everytime
>>579281317This isn't nearly as good without the music.
What stat should I alter for the Relic Bow? I'm planning on FASing it so I can use it for my Thief. ACC into Attack?
>>579284987aspd into sur is a very safe investment. The bow is REALLY good for rangers so doing that wouldn't brick it it for either class
>>579285234The thing is if I want to use ot for Rangers a standard Silver bow with 2 ACC lines is already better. In fact my Alabaster cabe bow has 3 ACC lines+good base ACC, the relic bow will never really compete with them. Also I don't use Rangers yet. I only have Heinrico and I don't like him.
>>579285331The bow has a stackable acc buff I think, and another one against flying enemies. That's why it's better than normal bows, but yeah if you really don't need it for rangers might as well swap an acc line for atk. Not like it does much on a thief
>do bounties for the first timeross is such a nigger, I'm skipping his bounty
>>579285524Oh I didn't know about the ACC buff, will reconsider thanks. Do you perhaps know the values? Is it something significant?
>>579285524more atk is good for using MOF
nyontents?
>just beat the A4 GWO on the true ending>now have to go back to A3 to redo the other factionsIt should be way easier but I find it a bit of a slog. When is A5 dropping? During anni?
>>579290008you just ate 2 abysses, an entire collab, and you still have leftovers on your plate and you already want your bowl refilled?
why when I get initiative, the order of turn change for my adventurers?
>>579281317what happened to the bunny?
off we go adventuring!
The pow-The pow-The pow-The pow-The power of heeealing!
>>579291335They go in the order of their base speed stat rather than ASPD.
>>579292426Cutie, shame her gear is complete cancer to farm
>>579285524A 20 acc buff from the skill which is pretty decent. However a good 4* Silver bow with ACC and ACC% can alter a third line into more ACC, which ends up being more ACC than even a FAS Relic Bow, since it only starts with a single ACC line. In fact if the Silver Bow is a purple 4*, it ends up with more Accuracy than the Relic Bow even after the buff from the skill. Something to consider.
how do I know which are debuffs? so I can cleanse them? is poison a debuff?
>>579295229nvm. I'm guessing debuffs are all things that lower status. Poison paralysis and others dont count.
>>579294538>In fact if the Silver Bow is a purple 4*, it ends up with more Accuracy than the Relic Bow even after the buff from the skill.yeah 13 acc isnt that hard to geta silver bow with 2 acc, acc% and atk will definitely be generally better than the relic, though a silver bow doesnt have the flying slayer passive the relic has.The relic is pretty good for fighter but not ranger imo
>>579295656oops meant to paste this
>Finally get a Heinrico with DEX boon.>90 fortitudeThis game is fucking trolling me. I refuse to level him up like this.
Camille is my only healer. Is it worth dumping all my MP UP and Piety UP inherits into her? Basically so long as she doesn't fall off in the late game, I wanna use her. I like her design a lot. I'm in the middle of Abyss 3.
>got enough bunny relics to hit lv6 by slaughtering collab over the past month>have to sit on them for 2 more months because potential anni unitthey really need to do something about building new characters and especially this garbage relicbrew system
>>579297838>Basically so long as she doesn't fall off in the late game, I wanna use herbrother she is currently the best character in the entire game. healers are OP. the only other healer in the game is Anemone and she was a side-grade to Camille at best until the ASPD changes, now she is just worst
>>579297838Piety is useless.
>>579298740no it's not but there is no piety inherit in the game, only divine power UPstop giving stupid advice
>>579298958Same to you.
>>579297838Those are fine.The more important things to inherit to her are Dios and Madios to at least Level 3.The regular Healer heal is decent but like other heals it has some really low soft caps so it needs to be leveled, but you'll want to feed Camilles to herself for Discipline levels rather than the Skill.
>>579295656Yeah, also the special skill is realistically not even going to be used by Rangers who spam AoEs from turn 1 anyway. Keeping it as a possible Thief/Fighter (or even Knight by keeping the Aspd for easier tuning) is probably better.
>>579297838She's busted but I'm still worried MC Healer might make her useless, or a class change or something might give us a better healer.
>>579302878>MC Healer might make her uselessMC is forever locked into DPS because of all the dmg passives he has
>>579302878MC doesn't wanna be a healer I don't think, at least for metafagging reasons. He wants high sp and bulk, and some damage outputs while healers are pretty fragile, hurts themselves to heal the team, and doesn't do much damage or have that much sp iirc. I don't think they're gonna release a legendary healer soon and then it's kinda hard to powercreep the class, anemone has a whole ass buff and she's still not that much better than a base healer. For CCs, it's still not that big of a deal
>>579298740Piety is only "good" if you want to go all in on the wife beater, and even there is not that good
mu
I hope they announce the 5th Abyss on the anniversary.
>>579305647what are your hopes and dreams for septembah?
>>579305647short while ago they said it was "in active production" and that didn't sound like it was any close to being done, unless you mean announce as in tease, but then it's kinda expected
more slop chan art
>piety buff is useless>iq buff is better but you got to hear agora and you're stuck with the awful facewhy drecum
>>579305828>even has the missing left titSOVL
>>579305905>>579305507what the fuck are you guys smokingPIE>>>>>>IQ
They teased QoL changes months ago but will they actually address the stupid rarity of things like ninja swords / Ninja gear and especially healer gear? I don't need it to be 4* purple but I need fucking unifies.
>>579306148I'm more curious about inherit system changesno f2p/low spender will have any reason to roll anymore once they get a party of d9s since replacing even 1 of your d9 units with inherits will become impossible
>>579306278this, all the farmable stuff simply needs to be transferable, mostly inherits and relicbrews
>>579306387reminder that this shit hasn't been added for 2 years so even if they add it now they will remain giga jews in my book
>>579304587MC frontline dps is only worth it as a Samurai with BS3. Anything else and he's basically another Fighter. He's best used as Chronoman backline who occasionally shoots out a POS or HA7. >>579304605I still think MC backlining safely with a bunch of HP and SP passives from Well of Mind is the ultimate healer. MC is just too much of a support. Healers are only used for bossfights so having a hyper invested MC healer for them while having 4 DPS is better than hyper investing in a Camille to make her good just so that the MC can deal 10% more damage than your other fighters. I still think it's mandatory to have a lvl 70 Camille with all the relevant passives, but I'm still hesitant to giver her Alice inherits and the like.
>>579307230>MC frontline dps is only worth it as a Samurai with BS3. Anything else and he's basically another Fighter. He's best used as Chronoman backline who occasionally shoots out a POS or HA7. low T energy. most new bosses are immune to chrono. you can configure your frontline MC fighter/ninja/samurai to survive any boss by adding WOTM slayer-resistance passives/element to him.>anything else and he's basically another Fighter.a slightly better fighter because of shedding,ninja passives,way of the thief etc.but you know what he is as a priest/healer?a worse camille/alice
>>579307230>hyperinvesting into a specialized class that works really well against a few bosses for someone who never leaves the teamehhh I'd like to farm stuff more efficiently desu
Buttholeroach!
don't call her that.
>>579307771>Red Beard KnightTime to build a wall whit that brick
>>579306115Im working on it1 done, 5 more to go
>>5793084684*god i hate phoneposting.
just returned after finding out retards finally added the option to play in english with nip voicesmanaged to get Prishe, I barely remember how to play but there was some mechanic about starting stats defining if your character was usable or shit, mine has +1 str +1 dex and -speed, iirc 7 bonus points was the minimum? Can you get the rest of the collab characters by farming "the event" or do you have to roll for them? I saw with the 10$ mission bundle you get some items named like the characters, are those tries at the gacha or secured rolls for them?I'll go look up the guides but I would appreciate if you guys could give me a couple tips
>>579309020there's a free selector right at the start of beginning abyss if that wasn't what you used to get prishe, so you can get zeid or iroha. Bonus points are 5-10, and your character seems to be strength boon, which is a good thing for her. Dump the rest of your stats into strengthThe event has farmable weapons that are pretty good generally. Go to wizardry.fasterthoughts.io for the community guides, there's one for the event too.
women dont have buttholes because they dont poop retards
>>579262106>ugly goblin like alicekek based
>>579309020The Prishe in the picture is good. that is a str boon with 7bp and you are unlikely to get a better one w/o many rollsall points in str>are those tries at the gacha or secured rolls for them?those are tries at the gachaidk how well the event scales for new players so I can't help with that but assuming you can farm gil from the trades getting an upgraded relic weapon would be huge for early game
>>579309469>>579309697thanks guys, I'll put all of her points into str thenI actually played pretty frequently since release till around when they released the lion guy, I remember there was a shitload of bugs that fucked up the game when you used the time reversing thing, hope thats fixed nowMy main team is around level 40 which I think was the cap by thenI'm guessing the only way to get weapons for Prishe is the event so I should try to farm those too?
>>579310815>40 which I think was the cap by thenit was 50 pre-guarda>I'm guessing the only way to get weapons for Prishe is the event so I should try to farm those too?the item shop in the town sells silver cestiidk if that is based on grade or notI would try to find something useable in the event and make up the difference with ones from the shop to +20 it at some point
Its over gwos, they finally figured out how to stop me from claiming the extra 50 weekly from VPNing to the japanese store
Do you think we will get a new adventurer class for the anni? And if so what would you want? Hope we get a cute girl too
>>579316175bard so lin can get a good CCfits the celebration theme too
>>579316313maybe a cope take but healer incenses were a test for party wide song buff effects
>>579314683Works on My Machine™
>>579314683Scared me for a sec, I use SoftEther and it worked for me.
She created an opportunity...
>You can actually pull 2 bones from the same side in a single mausoleum runWhy did no one tell me this before? I've always exited if the first chest was a hit.
>>579322502Nobody knows this because you shouldn't be giving gems to the dead jew
>>579323276I gave Morgus aids to my cat.It used to be Milana, but I pulled her alt so she gets to be cured.
>>579322502I have one Morgus contract and I always loot both chests and I always only get one, wtf
>>579307214just look at uma. Jap gachas are hardly worth playing before the 4 year mark when they add all the QoL.
>>579323632I emptied out the thief tomb and got two double hits. One on the north, and one on the east. Maybe you just can't do it on the west, or not on the crucible.
swo.... your bounties
>>579323960>or not on the crucibleIt's probably that then
>>579323518When the fuck did they add THAT?Still I think most people just put a checkmark on the map at each transition and then just click checkmark->checkmark->chest->exit and don't think too hard about it.
>>579324187This is the same thing except you just swap your Morgus'd idiot into the group, then you get to chest->chest->exit for a much higher chance at not leaving without a bone
>>579324058I'm on rank 9 nowI'll get to 13 when I feel like it
>>579324898It is tradition around here to save up the 40500 bounty points before the start of each month.I am being a lazy SWO this time and will complete September's bounties within September.Have you at least bought all the monthly items you can before the reset?
Are there specific armor pieces that I should be hunting for/working towards to minmax my Samurai or is it just the best silver shit I can get my hands on, but with MAG blessings? Like is there some unique equip that has shit defense but offers extra IQ or some shit?
>>579324058do i wanna farm the def scrollsis it 1 def per level like nonames adventurers?
>>579325140does samurai not want chainmail still?
>>579325140Chainmail - innate suretyHunting gloves - innate apsd and surety, high base ACC (like all silver gloves)Hunting boots - innate aspd and suretyBird hat - innate aspd5* princess ring - innate suretyBeclouded katana - innate surety
>>579325173you can skip those desu
>>579325140I made a bunch of ATK/MAG shit and ended up at something like 440/330 but I don't think it even ended up mattering because the softcap for BS1 is too low and I'm not planning to raise itSo unless you are just stick to ATK/SUR/ASPD
>>579325114hmmm nyo
they need to make bounty resets easier desu, wheeling is such a hassle
how do they usually treat the gacha weapons from legendary adventurer alts compared to their original version?I'm saving up for the yuzu alt since she's my favourite unit, but when I started the game I missed the hairpin, now I'm kind of wondering are they just gonna slap 3 hits on the kunai of her alt or do they usually make the weapons worse?
>>579326709there is no way they'll add another 3 hit kunai that you could potentially offhandit'll be a ninjato
>>579327447Zero chance, they usually design alts to be able to use both version's shit and normal yuzu is ranged weapon locked so there is no way alt yuzu would use a melee.
>>579326709The only weapon I remember both the original and alt for is Savia. Her OG spear just had 8 EVA instead of 4, but her 2nd spear that came out with the alt style increased surety damage based on EVA, a clear step up. So based on that limited sample size I would expect Yuzu's next weapon to also define the meta for a year, but who knows?
>>579327961imagine if they run a bow
>>579327961its not like they "can't" make it so alt Yuzu can Hue with a melee weapon with a unique passive, y'know
>>579318145>>579318354Im using the free firefox vpn, maybe that one is just shitty or I gotta clear cookies or something
>>579330132I had no issue with the tunnelbear extension for firefox mentioned in the OP. I haven't tried the built-in VPN for firefox.>>579327961They can do whatever they want with alts. I think Gerard and Savia had their personal skill restrictions loosened, but Rinne got locked to daggers.
>>579330509Rinne went from technically a ninjato user to a dagger user, they're gonna brick Yuzu since they know she's busted. I don't recall them ever making meta units noticeably stronger in alt/cc.
>>579330670Who are you considering the meta units with alts?Yek, Alice, and Benis got stronger.Shiou got an awkward sidegrade.Rinne got a great inherit with a terrible personal skill and discipline.
>>579330670Yuzu is the designated OP unit so I doubt they'll do anything to prevent whales from spending 1 trillion yen trying to 5* red whatever the new weapon is
>>579331057>not just powercreeping again to make the whales re-spend and cuck the f2poors metachasers
>>579330998mostly just Alice and Shiou, and they already got done dirty on their cc too. Plus it's more the fact that it's easier to outdo a shitty base with an alt than not. The strong units really feel like they're tied to a sidegrades. The noticeable power increases from alts just seems like they happen on a shit base more, like deb, or yek and rinne.
