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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9557 - Goggles edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Blitz has been cancelled
https://x.com/saac_news/status/2090738578074579070?s=46
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI [Embed]
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthg-links
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>579083320
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Tails!
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80 fucking dollars
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>>579149904
>I like seeing the different perspectives in SA1, gives some great insight into the characters.
Most of it just ends up repeated cutscenes and the cutscends themselves arent great.
Its less 1 story and more multiple stories entangled with eachother, wach of varying quality.


>I like SRA, but it is a lot more straightforward and basic all things considered
I think it benefits vastly from this. A lot of the SA1 stories end up fluff that serves no purpose to the individual character stories because of how it is written.

Sonic's "story" for example is less a story and more just him showing up for everyone else's stories.

Tails is mostly just him tagging along with Sonic until he gets separated from him so he can actually be a character and have a story. Knuckles barely has a story. They sorta forgot to tell his story more or less.

Gamma, Big and Amy work in large part because of how disconnected they are from the main conflict.
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What's the Sonic equivalent of the Pachinko level from Mario Sunshine?
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Sonurge comic when
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I have some bad news to idw fans, One of their trucks had an accident, and some titles are gonna be delayed for it.
The most notable title for us is godzilla x sonic #2
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Thoth Tails
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>>579150804
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>>579150415
>Most of it just ends up repeated cutscenes
>Its less 1 story and more multiple stories entangled with eachother
>Gamma, Big and Amy work in large part because of how disconnected they are from the main conflict.
Funny you contradicted yourself, even in two adjacent lines. Some cutscenes are repeated, especially in Tails' story, but they are different, and that is the point.

>Sonic's "story" for example is less a story and more just him showing up for everyone else's stories.
This is not unique to Sonic Adventure, that's just how Sonic is. He doesn't care about the details, he just shows up in people's lives, has an adventure, and solves their issues. If you remove the other stories from Sonic Adventure you don't get Sonic being more involved in those details, you just get Sonic's point of view without any of those details. Sonic defeats Chaos and then Eggman, doesn't care to learn more about it, and goes on another adventure.

>Knuckles barely has a story. They sorta forgot to tell his story more or less.
Do you think of "stories" as just things happening? Knuckles' story shows who he is and what he values. It's designed to communicate his character. Like all the other stories. Including Sonic, as I was saying. The character stories in this game communicate who the characters are. I think you're distracted by the larger narrative explored in the final story and occasional flashbacks, over the narrative of each individual story.
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>>579150804
Bump causing another accident
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>>579150518
Eggmanland
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>>579151103
>Funny you contradicted yourself, even in two adjacent lines. Some cutscenes are repeated, especially in Tails' story, but they are different, and that is the point.
How did i contradict myself exactly?
The suppsoed difference between Sonic and Tails' story isn't meaningful or significant. Definitely not enough to justify itself.
>Sonic is. He doesn't care about the details, he just shows up
The difference is how he exists in the story. Something like SA2 actually does involve and uses him in a meaningful way. Same with Secret Rings or 06.
In SA1, Sonic doesnt really go through or do anything and his story isn't cohesive and is terribly paced because the story has to have him show uo for everyone else's stories instead.

Compare this to SA2 where there is a clear flow of Sonoc getting mistakenly arrested, he escapes, runs into the person who they are acrually supposed to be after, he goes to jail, hets busted out and chases after the guy who set him up, and so on and so forth. There is an actual thing for him to actually care about personally and deal with that leads to proper set up and pay off for him.
SA1 doesnt have this.
Its just things happening and him just going to levels.
>Do you think of "stories" as just things happening?
Apparently you do. Sonic's story in SA1 isn't really a story.
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>>579151794
So do you think there are people living Crisis City (or any other part of 06's future world) or are Silver and Blaze just fighting for some rubble?

Also, is Crisis City supposed to be future Soleanna?
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>>579152019
>Apparently you do. Sonic's story in SA1 isn't really a story.
*Knuckles
Knuckles story presents itself as him learning its fine for him to be fine with things the way they are and him being at peace with his job even if he didnt k ow all the details.
But nothing over the course of the game really gets him there. It just kind of gets stated by him in the end of his playthrough.
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>>579152019
Sonic's story in Sonic Adventure is about Sonic collecting the Chaos Emeralds and defeating Eggman. It's simple, but it is a story. His involvement with Tails and Amy is also not lessened by those two characters also having their own stories. Most of the things you said about SA2 exist to be highlighted when shown from Shadow's perspective, too.

>>579152146
>Also, is Crisis City supposed to be future Soleanna?
Yes.
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>/v/ loves Sage
>/sthg/ barely talks about Sage once in a blue moon
Why?
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>>579152546
I love breathing too but you dont see me talking about it all the time
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>>579150804
I read the digitally.
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>>579152546
/v/ is a pedo board while /stgh/ is into cub(i.e. Cream and Tails) and thus not interested in Sage.
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Douge
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>>579152546
sage is at her best when she has massive fucking tiddies
but everyone draws her like she's a child for some reason
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>>579153117
>but everyone draws her like she's a child for some reason
...because she is?
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>>579152518
>Yes

How did Soleanna change from being Venice to a generic city while being attacked by a fire demon for 200 years?
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>>579153117
If you like a character then you like the character how it is, this off model variation is a different character design. You might like it, but being a fan of the character doesn't require it.

>>579153240
What's the distinctive feature of Venice?
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IDW won't let us have this because of woke
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>>579153608
Tails is shit though
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Tails with her Green Wife
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sonic and his red husband
https://files.catbox.moe/7708zk.mp4
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Bun!
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>>579153458
>What's the distinctive feature of Venice?

"Venetians"(Italians)???
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>>579154032
https://x.com/MariaArtes51/status/2050614266135294025
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were the amy leaks for movie 4 real or was it bullshit
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I think sonic should be like metal slug
>bullet hell
>government conspiracy
>bigass machines every turn shoved to your face trying to blow you up
>alien invasion
Shadow the hedgehog but more intense. we bring the freedom fighters back and rebase the world on sonic satam. the restoration are a bunch of useless homosexuals.
>but that's off brand
fuck off
>but the wind and the stupid friends and being yourself
fuck off
>but what about my human self insert characters and shipping
fuck off
>but my winds and my themes and tanabata :((((
KILL. YOUR. SELF. BITCH.....

going to continue my metal slug x 6AM gaming session
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D-Don't look!
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>>579150518
Probably a level from Sonic 06
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>>579154704
Judging from the fact that Paramount mass sent copyright takedowns to all social media accounts sharing the leaks, including Sonic Stadium, they've got to be real
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>>579155195
I feel like this is the only analog Sunshine has to 06.
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>>579154626
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>>579154032
>>579154626
Why the fuck is she such a fucking bitch
Like smile for once you stupid cunt
Fuck Lanolin
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>>579155775
Ocshit is off topic.
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>>579155982
>Fuck Lanolin
Don't mind if I do
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>>579152259
he was telling her please go buy please go buy please go buy
propane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6yeLNNVa4A
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>>579156028
Duo...
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>>579156562
Do you ever think Lanolin misses Duo? How sad do you think she will be when Whisper and Tangle tell her they killed him?
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>>579156016
No it isn't.
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>>579152259
would amy actually hang out with Crash Bandicoot and his amazing friends?
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>>579155775
canon and on-topic
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8DV3g35H7M
Goo nigh
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>>579156737
She misses the feeling of his suction cups on her pussy.
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>>579156737
I miss the Duo x Lanolin porn and stories
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>>579154979
this is what sonic should be. big ass machines and aliens shit. and then some random furry guy with weird powers steps into the scene. we kinda have that but it's under played af.
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>>579157038
>lights filter
He's distracted
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I want a sonic game that plays like metal slug and has a metal slug tone dammit. i know i can just play metal slug but i have seen enough sonic autism to want a sonic slug game. i want big ass machine and cool ass robots and violent ass plots. fuck tanabata. shitty ass fanfic from 500 years ago made for little girls. why the fuck is it in my shitty hellokitty for edgy boys?
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>>579150804
>The most notable title for us is godzilla x sonic #2
That didn't already come out?
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>>579157647
>>579157748
Notice how unlike with Tangle, she finds Duo's lack of preparation cute.
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>>579157038
>>579159020
Ocfaggotry has nothing to do with this general
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>>579159571
So like, do you want a Sonic game with Metal Slug elements (but not necessarily a run n' gun game), or do you want Metal Slug but with furries?

Regardless, just play like Gunstar Heroes or Alien Soldier, assuming you haven't already.
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Yes Duolin
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>>579112978
Tawna literally got replaced by Crash’s little sister. Though I guess you’re right in that either way, they’re both dead characters in the end.
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>Shadow the hedgehog 2
>Doubles on og Shadow's guns, alien shit and government shit.
>bullet hell
>PG-13 at least (E10 is for sissies)
i am starved.....................................................

>>579160180
i will go with furry metal slug. because i know the sonic game is going to be an automated hall runner or a big sandbox of grind rails. the most recent sonic games are train simulators. choo choo nigga
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>>579160091
Yes it does.
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>>579159785
God what a bitch
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I have no interest Lanolin. In fact, I think she's trash.
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>>579162580
I like her tits and bags.
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>>579162728
I like to bang her tits.
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>>579150518
Casino Park and Bingo Highway in Sonic Heroes with their jank ass pinball physics that only work when they feel like it.
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This is canon
https://mega.nz/folder/IRw0RB7L#AHpjwd6KwrZC2Yfqy4cqgg/folder/ABpzTQBB
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Shan't click.
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>>579164208
Some palcomix comic about Tails getting cucked by Scorge
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>Krack is the one posting the Ken Penders book
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Krack spent 80 dollars on Shadally fanfiction. Let that sink in.
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I wonder how Violet feels about all of this
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Tails was cucked
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Everyone was so shocked by Shadally that they didn't notice that the first thing Sonic sees when he wakes up in the Shadally world is the wind blowing through Sally's hair.
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Windfags are the sorest winners. They can't just win, they have to destroy everything left of the enemy until there's nothing.
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Remember that Unite4Sally guy who kept saying Ian was the one who ruined Sonally?
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Cute
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>>579166340
Is kinda funny how sally fans try to shit on flynn about ruining sally when his entire run on preboot was him trying to fix her as a character after Karl Bollers and penders bullshit with her in general.
Most of the haters are just rabid shipperfags.
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>>579167693
The more you learn about shippers the more you realize they're just unreasonable and only frame logic on whether it confirms or denies their favorite ships
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>>579167652
Why is he wearing Mephithotep's jacket?
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>>579167804
Who doesn't?
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Penders and Bollers were right about Sonally.
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Did i miss violet killing xerself ina loud necksnap?
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Rereading the 2000s Archie comics with the knowledge that she was being set up with Shadow is funny.
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>>579168363
what happened?
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>>579168390
I dunno i was reading the thread, saw the name and was hoping for something cool to happen.
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>>579168363
I haven't seen a "Sally's true characterization is similar to Bulma" Post in a long time. You think we'd hear a lot of that now, considering.
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>>579167797
You only know half of it. Outside 4chan they will check your account, if you like a different ship the will accuse you of following an agenda. Defamation will follow, because each ship has people who know each other, and they will add you to their black list.
They are like a hive mind and I'm pretty sure many of them are not really well in the head.
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>>579166226
>Sonicfags are the sorest winners. They can't just win, they have to destroy everything left of the enemy until there's nothing.
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>>579168526

It'd be very funny if penders used silver in any meaningful form.
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>>579168837
Let me guess, he fucked Sally too
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>>579168368
The Shadow the Hedgehog game adaptation would be used to show how Shadow and Sally fell in love.
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Imagine if he released this 10 years ago when Sonally fans were still blaming Ian
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God I need to shove Shadow down and consensually rape him until he cums thick artificial alien hedgehog seed in my pussy
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>>579169663
>consensually rape
How?
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>>579169663
Sally...
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>>579169895
Penders...
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>that gameplay mechanic / style you like that other people hate
Sonic games for this feel?
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>>579169760
Shove him down and give him pleasure he didn't ask for and he doesn't know whether to push me away or not
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>>579169852
is this fetish art?
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>>579170823
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>>579170945
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>>579171048
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why sagails
or tage
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>>579171160
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>>579150804
/sthg/ resorting to sabotage
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>>579171504
Randomfox was definitely behind it.
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$80
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Sonic se- I mean, Zonic serious
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>>579171897
that's how much it costs to get sally to suck your dick 80000 times
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I need to suck Shadow's cute cock
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>>579171504
It's not our fault that IDW pays their truck drivers as low as they pay the rest of their staff.
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>>579150804
>no one was hurt
That's a relief, I'd feel bad if someone was hurt for my entertainement.
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Hedgehog boys make me grool in my panties
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>>579172362
That is a nice flexibility on his back, I wonder how Sonic train so much
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>>579172327
i wish ian and evan and all of them had been run over by that truck
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>>579172518
That's an awful thing to say
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Why did Penders burn so much time on Sonally if his ultimate goal was Sally giving up and marrying Shadow?
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>>579172607
It's called "not touching grass", anon. It makes you disconnected and a sad, pitiful psycho.
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Why wasn't there an Emerl boss fight for Shadow Generations?
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Small edgy boys need to be raped gently
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>>579172517
Blue Amy
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>>579172961
Despite being Sonic's best friend, he was the most physically hurt during the island with Tails, and he never noticed until it was too late. Fox boy has an awful eyesight, or is completely oblivious to others people's emotions
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>>579173002
Not really
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https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/special/sidestory/sonicpict/20260828_009380/

So who's watching the master emerald?
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>>579173229
That's during SA. You just read further
>A moment of relaxation from when he left Angel Island in Sonic Adventure to search for the shattered fragments of the Master Emerald and ran around the world below.
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This is as fake as the Mighty no 9 bullshot. If Penny's big bomb is any indication, they could never get it looking this good. Especially not on the Switch.
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fucking stupid windows update
my bump the deer cursor won't show up no matter what
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>>579159785
She's looking for someone earnest and genuine. Mimic probably figured out quickly that acting like way would fast-track him into Lanolin's trust.
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Why can’t I romance the female blobians in the games?
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>>579173609
It's called a "concept" anon.
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>>579174687
We all know how these "concepts" turn out.
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So yall got your emerald tier club chaos tickets right?
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>>579174717
Correct. And concepts are not bullshots.
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>>579159785
To be fair, Tangle is meant to have experience, but she's hard to work with because she's le quirky black girl xDDDD, while Duo is eager to do well but inexperienced.
You're always more patient with newbies who don't know than with veterans who do know but don't bother out of laziness or stupidity.
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>>579174797
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>>579174796
I see no difference in this scenario as both are used to lie to people for money.
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>>579174947
The difference is that they are literally different things. One is "We want the game to look something kinda like this when we make it" and the other is "We're lying to you about how the final product looks."
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-worst-bullshots-in-pc-gaming/
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>>579175054
Lying to investors/executives with concept art is no different than lying to the consumer. It's one and the same when it comes to Mighty no 9 as the game was kickstarted.

But hey, I'll throw you bone: Show me some concept art from a Sonic game that looks nothing like the final product. And not stuff that got cut out, I mean stuff in the game.
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>>579173609
Penny is a 3D game and this is 2D. They could have made it look this way, or at least better than Penny
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>>579175661
What makes you think that picture was for the consumers?
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>>579176008
It was a "2.5D" prototype i.e. supposed to be 3d. I call bullshit on them ever getting it to look this good.

https://bsky.app/profile/cfwhitehead.bsky.social/post/3lwhbnncp6s2y

Especially if you factor in getting this to run on the Switch. It ain't happening.
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>>579176375
What's wrong with the Switch?
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Satam should get a big budget continuation like X-men did
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>>579176818
Too weak. Especially in portable mode.
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>>579176375
are you stupid?
the switch can easily run a game like that, if it runs mario wonder it can easily run any 2.5d sonic game
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>>579176375
>>579176936
What, the switch can run that shit, are you retarded?
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I want to say a thank you to the guy that shared his SA2 with me some days ago here.
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>>579150804
QUICK WE NEED TO LOOT THE SHIT AND LEAK THE NEXT LESBIAN ADVENTURE
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>>579176940
>>579177012
>Thinks Evening Star is on par with an internal Nintendo development team
>Thinks Evening Star will get the development budget of a Mario game
>Thinks Evening Star won't be ordered by Sega to develop for multiple platforms thus being unable to optimize specifically for the Switch in order to get maximum juice
>Thinks Evening Star won't be forced to rush the game out like last time

Man, you clankers are retarded.
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>>579176936
Is it? Is it cheap, to compensate?
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>>579177172
Well thats a problem of the devs not the hardware
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And once again, my dick is sucked, thanks to...My Powered Girlfriend!
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thinking about human women rn
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Rape gigi and force xer pakishit bf to watch.
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>>579170386
yes
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That's nuts!
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Can't draw on the whiteboard this weekend so I drew something beforehand. My contribution. Bye
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>>579174819
>Tangle
>Black girl
?????

Tangle's Italian.
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scramble my nuts
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>>579178129
his ass is not listening
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>>579178129
Bro dropped out of TWEWY
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>>579178129
neku shadow? cute
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>>579178232
Rule of cool
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Mypenis demands (You)
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>>579178408
If we get Lancelot in the movie, there is a chance
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they charge you $80 for entering this week's whiteboard btw
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>>579178475
>404
>You have been banned from all boards for posting pornography
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>>579178408
imagine all the rape he would do in idw
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>>579178475
What is this, a slaneesh cult?
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>>579178640
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>>579178701
Worse, it's the future
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>>579178605
"They" as in Magma?
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>>579179010
they as in espioyume and alota
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God is cruel and cynical.
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>>579178640
I remember when Ian kinda answered this.
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>>579172673
Says the guy using lingo that showcases a terminally-online addiction to twitter.
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>>579179069
They deserve to be paid for their hard work.
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>"Wow! What are all these cunts?"
>These are the bitches of sluttiness. Yourdick must conquer each!
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>>579179316
>no u
YAWN
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>>579178720
Rape Fiona
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>>579179624
Impossible, there is nothing down there.
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>>579179728
Spicy vixen pussy is real.
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>>579179845
that burns your dick
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Gerald was insane and shut off all empathy for anyone who wasn't Maria. He had to make his creation biological in order to save Maria, and male to be a proper ruthless weapon. He used Shadow's biological maleness to keep him leashed to Maria by the oldest tether of all, a man's drive to protect the female whose touch and presence makes the noise in his head go quiet.
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>>579152518
>Sonic's story in Sonic Adventure is about Sonic collecting the Chaos Emeralds and defeating Eggman.
Wow dude you sure opened my eyes. How do you do this but make it worse than Sonic 1?
>It's simple, but it is a story
Except none of the actual stuff in the story is doing that. His story is more "collecting the emeralds for Eggman to give the chaos, then randomly going inyo his base form a bossfight" really.
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>>579173229
Fat fucking fuck. Obese fatty red blob. Put down the hamburger you tub of lard.
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>>579180004
What does this have to do with Sonic the Hedgehog?
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>>579180345
Gerald Robotnik is Eggman's grandfather. Eggman is the villain in Sonic the Hedgehog. Did you know?
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>>579166226
You created us and then gave us a name and made it punk rock. This isnt windfags being sore winners. It's just them going in the direction of truth and you foolishly underestimated it like Eggman.
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>>579179952
>>579180062
>>579180216
>>579180358
>>579180472
Where did you find this leak of IDW without SoJ mandates?
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>>579179728
Yes there is, it's just fur-covered. Don't lie to the humans. They alreadu know
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>>579180524
e621
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insane that archiefags created an entire term for people itt who like sonic the hedgehog to shit on them. "windfags". you mean sonicfags?
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>>579180548
Dumb yellow vixen.
Don't uncover the tribal secret.
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insane that mediafags created an entire term for people itt who like sonic the hedgehog to shit on them. "gamefags". you mean sonicfags?
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>>579180409
>Did you know the main villain's grandfather and cousin were actually super important!?!

Sounds like fan fiction to me, ST doesn't allow the Sonic cast to have extended families.
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Imagine if superman fans called each other "justicefags"
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So, it seems your threads have led you to obliteration. Perhaps it doesn't pay to be to loyal to one's general. I will have to be sure and remember that.
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insane that comicfags created an entire term for people itt who like sonic the hedgehog to shit on them. "japfags". you mean sonicfags?
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Tails being a moral support for Sonic is better than being a frightened useless sissy
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>>579180703
this is what people who call you a "jp purist" want from official sonic media
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insane that sonicfags created an entire term for people itt who like sonic the hedgehog to shit on them. "moviefags". you mean sonicfriends?
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>>579181091
funny because that crap reads like idw.
legacy westfag btw
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I always thought Silverfish was a funny slur for fans of Silver the Hedgehog. But it's too powerful to use casually.
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insane that shipfags created an entire term for people itt who like shadow the hedgehog to shit on them. "krack". you mean shadowfags?
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Krack bought a 100 dollar Shadally fanfic
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>>579181091
pic related is what japan want from sonic. A spineless blue Mario whit no attitude. NPC skinwalker
>>579180980
they do. In comics there are different fandoms for different versions of a single super hero. Same with Sonic
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Quoteless posts are the signature of a coward.
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>>579181349
sonic lost world was made to appeal to the west.
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>>579181392
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>>579181323
Say thank you.
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>>579181280
I can't believe not-krack bought the shadally fanfic because she felt frustrated with other non-kracks
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>>579178475
breed blaze
>>579178701
thats hardly degenerate enough for She who thirsts
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insane that randomfox randomfoxed an entire fox for randoms itt who like random foxes to random on foxes. "randomfox". you mean randomfox?
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>>579181491
you don't understand krack
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it's insane there are tawnafags out there
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>>579180345
>what does convo about Sonic characters have to do with Sonic?
Anon?
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>>579181691
That's casual fox.
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STOP ENJOYING SONIC THE HEDGEHOG.
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>>579180919
Sonic Team obviously reserves the right to do so themselves at their discretion.
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I can't believe series about a manlet in a blue body suit and follows a hotdog diet can make people seethe
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>>579181323
How can she afford this if she is supposedly unemployed?

>>579181392
>Oni are the main villains
>Aggressive Japanese localization of the English
>Completely changed the gameplay away from what was favored by Western critics and fans
>Random NiGHTs and LoZ crossover DLC

LW was weird; the only thing that was "Western facing" was allowing the contract Western writers a little more autonomy to write the dialogue, and that mostly was mostly thrown out for the Japanese localization. LW seemed more so trying to cater to Japanese Nintendo fans, which makes sense because it was a WiiU exclusive.
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>>579181950
These wacky G-men.
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Man I know everyone hated Chaotix, but the music was fucking 10/10.
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insane that Amy Rose rose an entire rose for roses itt who like Amy's roses to rose on Amys. "Rosy". you mean rascal?
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>>579182094
the Wii U teaches us a valuable lesson, when Nintendo isn't selling, they are as desperate for money as Sega
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>>579182094
the DLC was fucking cool tho
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>>579182210
Nobody played chaotix because people were buying playstations
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>insane
>can't believe
>absurd
>funny that
The sonic situation is insane.

*thumbnail with a red arrow pointing at sonic*
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>>579181828
>Sonic characters

None of those characters even interact with Sonic. Can you really be a Sonic character if you never interact with Sonic the Hedgehog?
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>>579182312
I played it.
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>>579182212
The more I see the redesigned classic-style frilly skirt the more I like it, it actually resembles a blooming rose.
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>>579182363
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>>579182271
I'm sorry Iizuka-san, only Japanese Segafags care about NiGHTS, and that is a very very small population.

>>579182250
Not true, even when the Wii was printing money, Nintendo was open to Sega's request to use Mario characters in their Olympic games tie-in. Sega and Nintendo have been close since Sega went 3rd party. It was the Yakuza guy that fucked that relationship up during the Switch era.
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>>579183131
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>>579183227
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>>579183280
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>>579183326
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>>579183280
Cute.
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>>579183227
Chipmunk-looking M'ria. Shadally Confirmed
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>>579183280
Is he autistic?
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>>579179845
Mississippi people are built different
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:)
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>>579183131
>>579183227
>>579183280
>>579183326
>>579183387
There are people ITT who read this and somehow, beyond all reason, concluded that Shadow no longer cares about Maria, and does not protect the planet for Maria.
How?
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>>579183835
I mean, there are people thinking that Elon Musk is a genius, so...
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Kingdom Hearts is more autistic than Sonic
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>Yuji Naka
>Inafune
Wow Sonic and Mega Man do look alike
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That JOG YOUR MEMORY, Shadow?!
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>>579183835
Isn't the Shadow Manga (and BoC and IDW) basically in the same tier as Sonic X. Canon adjacent and ST informed, but not really an accurate representation of the games.
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>>579184008
Have KH fans done even half the crazy shit Sonic fans have done in the name of this franchise?

>>579184021
Inafune is more like the Iizuka of Mega man. The Mega man equivalent of Yuji Naka is Akira Kitamura.
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>>579181091
i think they want hellokitty but boys version
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>>579181081
>moral support
Why does Sonic need moral support? Tails is tech support.
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>>579184424
yeah but both Inafune and Iizuka left their company and made shit games nobody asked for
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>>579184494
i meant people who call you a jp purist as in. idwfags. archiefags. retard.
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>>579181161
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>>579184504
when Sonic feels bad and is about to cry, Tails can be his moral support
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>>579184547
ooh...
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Amy being a pussy provider for Sonic is better than being yet another stronk wamen
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>For the longest time thought megaman defeating the robot masters just meant Light would repair them after Wily is beaten and arrested
>Apparently they just fucking die save for a select few

that's kinda bleak for such a colorful series, I thought that only happened in the X and other spin offs.
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>>579184070
this manga's getting weird
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>>579184680
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>>579182212
>that outfit
https://youtu.be/85mDyWCgHy0
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sonic the hedgehog the general
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>>579182431
>None of those characters even interact with Sonic
...so?
>Can you really be a Sonic character if you never interact with Sonic the Hedgehog?
...yes? Are you dumb, anon?
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>>579182474
>classic-style
You keep forcing this meme. Stop it.
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>sonic is the win
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>>579185080
nobodyis forcing anything schizo
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>>579182474
>Watch Rose get deflowered in 2027.
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>>579183280
>Rare shadow smile in specific earned situation
He understood the assignment.
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The movie models are ass.
Semirealistic cartoons are ugly as fuck, they only show the average person's bad taste in visual art.
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>>579184707
I think it's changes based on the game, like the MM9 Robot Masters survive their game until their expiration date.. Even still, all the RMs are rebuilt for the boss rush at the end.

That said, even Classic Megaman was supposed to be a little sad.
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>>579184638
Ooc
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>>579182212
She looks like she speaks a Romance language to me for some reason
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>>579184973
Those characters are Shadow characters. Shadow is the star of a sub-series that has even crossed over with Sonic a few times.
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>>579185179
Ive seen you push this meme both on here and off. I promise you that wasnt the idea or mentality with the dress.
Stop stating it like its a fact when it isnt.
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>>579185431
a backstory is never OoC
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>>579185332
Funnily, I think all the movie models look great EXCEPT Sonic. They "fixed" his design but it's still different enough to be weird. The rest fare far better.
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>>579185582
I supose you have a source if you are so sure about that claim
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>>579185554
Why are you just making things up?
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>>579185467
Just say she looks Latina, anon.
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>>579185602
See>>579185682
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>>579185743
I forgot Mafalda has mono eyes like Sonic
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>>579185670
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
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>>579185682
Shadow the Hedgehog ™ (Featuring Sonic and friends from the Sonic the Hedgehog ™ Series)
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>>579185892
Shadow's game is a sequel to both Heroes and SA2.
It was supposed to be the basis to kickstart his own series but it didnt get there.
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>>579185973
Shame because it's a lot better than Heroes.
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>>579185636
meh idk, they all look ugly with the cgi hollywood take
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>>579185838
Mafalda is just Spanish Nancy right? Or is it closer to Little Lulu? I've never read it.
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Hopecucks btfo
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>>579185332
Sonic (and pikachu) is the only franchise who managed to make the mascot look good. Everyone else failed. I think it's something Sega shoud be proud
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>>579186148
I never read Nancy. Some people said it's like Peanuts, but I also never read Peanuts. It's about little political and social commentary with humor
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We need new crackship to argue about until they become canon. None with Shadow.
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>>579186183
If it's not a full cartoon stylization i ain't watching that, i only watch sthg spoilering me the story.
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>>579186384
Sonamy
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>>579185743
She should be French though.
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>>579186423
Non. Ta gueule, sale sodomite. Sous-homme. Harki !
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>>579186423
Forced meme.
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>>579186618
>Sous-homme
*sous-humain
Sous-homme would be "sub-man" not "sub-human"
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>>579186818
Essaye pas de m'apprendre le Français, ducon. Je le parle sûrement plus que toi à Paname avec les autres sacs à merde prétentieux. Hé, t'es devenu végan, ça y est? Tu t'es fait couper les couilles pour ta copine pendant qu'elle te trompe avec son prof de yoga?
Pédale, va.
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>>579186618
>>579186618
Non, toi. Va baiser ta mère avec une cuillère-fourchette rouillée. Putain de merde. Vous, les Latinos, vous n’en faites pas déjà assez parler de vous comme ça!
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>>579187007
Ton google translate te trahis, baltringue. Tu ne fais que t'embarrasser et t'humilier d'une façon très amusante.
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>the french
Vorrei ordinare una baguette... anzi no, tre.

Ed un'intera scatola di croissant, grazie.
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>>579187081
C'est l'IA ...
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>>579187329
L'Intelligence Abominable...
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¡¡HABLEN UN IDIOMA QUE PUEDA ENTENDER, MARICONES FRANCESES!!
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>>579187620
I don't speak Ancap, sorry.
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What if Amy could croak ?
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>>579187430
Bonjour. Je m’appelle L’Intelligencia Abominable. Enchante.
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can you guys please stop speaking chinese
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>>579187823
>ableist "humor"
Do Am*ricans really find this funny to mock deformed people with throat cancers?
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I love my sthg european friends.

Let's nuke israel.
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>>579187859
Nein.
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>>579187974
Heil mein fuchs-er
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>>579187876
Every country has, had and will have, racist humor against other countries. Yours included
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>>579186901
J'suis allez à l'école français et oui j'suis françophone.

why did you ask if I became a vegan?
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>racism
:(

>intra-racial racism
:D
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>>579188438
>racism
:D

>intra-racial racism
:D
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>>579188089
French people don't.
Except toward:
>Belgians
>Italians
>the Br*ts
>Germans
>Spanish
>American
>Chinese
>Japanese
>Russian
>Ukrained
>Bielorussian
>Afghans
>Portuguese
>Irish
>Swiss
>Sweden
>Prussians
>Autrichians
>Congo
>Vietnamese
>Malaysians
>Australians
>Algerians
>other French people

>>579188158
>J'suis allez à l'école français
Tu t'es fais arnaquer ma poule.
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I'm about to invade france.
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We Mayans do not "make fun" of our enemies - we sacrifice them.
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https://files.catbox.moe/c1y506.png
https://files.catbox.moe/duz7zd.png
https://files.catbox.moe/3rnvuu.png
https://files.catbox.moe/z5wsvj.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/vstm3e.png
https://files.catbox.moe/0s98iw.jpeg
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Amyfans and Orihimefans sharing the same pain....
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>>579189189
Any mayan Sonic characters for this?
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>>579189537
!
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>>579189706
Pachacamac
Duh
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>>579189189
>>579189706
>Tikal Ruins level
More like "Tikal ruins everything."
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>>579189787
>>579189842
I thought these were black people?
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>>579189842
See, she even made me forget to attach the pic and ruined the post! Gee thanks TIKAL.
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>>579190041
Don't be mean to our girl
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Sonic and Surge if they had character development
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>>579189903
Knuckles was allegedly supposed to be Jamaican early on, but the Echidnas were modeled after Mayan architecture/culture.
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>>579189903
They didn't intermix until the slaves were brought in the shore up the population
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>>579189537
0s98iw is 404
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I'd sacrifice myself
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>>579191070
https://files.catbox.moe/wqs8iz.jpg
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>frenchfags want to be dominated
fork found in kitchen
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>>579190286
Based!
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What are we in for?
>https://files.catbox.moe/cr2un9.mp4
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>>579191250
I thought this was the gayest post in the thread but >>579191628 this AIslop deserves the truest gayest post award
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>>579191206
Then may she feast heartily upon your flesh which will become her fertilizing feces.
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https://files.catbox.moe/sns8g6.jpg
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WHITEBOARD
https://magma.com/d/yeU9sgOSve
https://magma.com/d/yeU9sgOSve
https://magma.com/d/yeU9sgOSve
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80 fucking dollars
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Hello fellow mayans and mesoamericans! *cough*
>*infects (You) with smallpox*
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>>579192332
I won't be able to draw this time. You should go without me
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>>579192332
Where do you find these awful gifs?
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>>579192495
It's from bleem or something blingy
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>>579192486
We never cared about you
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IDW Sonic existing doesn't take away from the games
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>>579193864
Why are you trying to encourage peace and reasoning on sthg
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>>579193981
I actually meant to bait some guys. Most of the time however, I end up getting baited. I think IDW has an effect on the games for better or worse. Either way good thing Blade of Courage exists.
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>>579193864
If by
>"Doesn't take away from games"
you mean "adds crying lesbians to the games"
you'd be right.
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>>579193864
I hate retarded strawman memes like these, they're on the same level of awaress as dobson's comics.
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>>579193864
It does when IDW writing starts infesting the games
This meme also does not apply because we're all at the Blade of Courage stand instead
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>>579194345
Nothing in the comics affects the games, you just want to complain for the sake of it
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>>579194143
You successfully baited me, if that makes you feel in charge.
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>>579183835
>somehow, beyond all reason, concluded that Shadow no longer cares about Maria, and does not protect the planet for Maria.
I believe the common statement was that Shadow had come to terms with Maria's death and resolved to move forward (NOTHING CAN STOP YOU NOW, NO GHOST TO BRING YOU DOWN) , not that he didn't care about her at all.
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>>579194515
That doesn't justify pissing inside the lemonade.
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>>579194714
Why are you drinking the piss lemonade you weirdo
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Besties <3
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I PISS IN LONADE AND SHIT IN BEANZ
YOU CANT STOP ME!!!
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>>579194837
Because i was expecting it to be lemonade duuuh, there is no otger lemonade stand becase the rest of this sonic fair is a sega monopoly.
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>>579195053
Pissiona?
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>>579194453
I see less discussion about BoC's story than I do for IDW's.
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>>579195248
You know it, sister!
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Fuck you and your lemonade, only reason i have to drink this garbage is because "HURR DURR MUH CANON OOOH LET'S TURN EVERYTHING INTO A SINGLE CANON AND A SINGLE LEMONADE STAND" kind if faggotry.

Also it's melty time.
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what happened with hag fiona raping silver
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>>579195505
Well duh, BoC has a much smaller release and reach
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you guys ruined a perfectly good word for best friend
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>>579195969
>guys
>plural
lmao
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>>579195505
>*cripples every foothold BoC can have on Western shores*
Wonder why that is?
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purists are clowns. but intentionally sabotaging media is also clownish
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>>579195885
I think it has just as much reach as IDW. The Sonic fanbase has basically been translating the manga chapters as they release in Japanese.

This isn't to knock BoC or any of Imada's work, its good, but I feel like it doesn't have as much of an impact outside of being a somewhat competent Sonic manga, despite its quality.
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>>579195053
Bad fox! Who raised you?
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Have a lovely weekend, /sthg/!!
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>>579195505
>I see less discussion about BoC's story than I do for IDW's.
all IDW discussion is shitting on the story
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>>579196448
always leave it to the fandom to make better things
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I hate the games and i love BoC
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>>579196119
>Implying fans aren't pirating both the mangas and IDW
>Implying the non-Japanese audience for the manga even matters to Sega

Jet Black Hedgehog wasn't even officially translated into English, and it did well enough in Japan for Sega to commission Imada to do other Sonic books and media. The overseas market for both the mangas and IDW doesn't seem to be much of a priority, just something extra Sega taps into in response to fan demand.

Or do you think SoJ is trying to sabotage IDW's release in Japan?
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>>579196625
>I think it has just as much reach as IDW.
No, it doesn't. Even taking into account BoC's release on the IDW app.
There's a stark difference between a physical US release and a digital-only, heavily staggered release. The majority of fans won't even know it exists, let alone read the fan translations.

Let me know when we get a BoC character in Crossworlds, or characters mentioned in the next mainline game. Then we can talk about it having a similar reach.
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>at Gamescom Sega reps said despite the company being upset with Crossworlds sales they would continue to support it for as long as they can
>they said they’d view it as a success if they could at least sell 50% of Mario Kart World
>they think this a doable being on all platforms
>the door is open for Nintendo to put characters in Crossworlds too
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>>579196669
I think Tangle would like BoC. She's a total Sonic fangirl and she seems like she would really jive with the fast-paced story and writing.
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>>579195505

Ironically BoC has less discussion because it is better, it's easier for discussion to arrive if people shit on something, then the people who like it or want to prove something about it defend it, and so on. BoC doesn't have anything actually offensively bad in it, nor is it ''canon'' so people with agendas can use it to prove something.

for me, as somthing positive to talk abou in Boc, I liked how they used knuckles in the latest chapter, they were able to make use of his comedic dynamic and hotheadedness with sonic without making him look like a dumbass and balancing his cool side, and they managed to get us to understand his motivation of protecting the angel island and dutybound nature without using the master emerald as a crutch.
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>>579197431
>the door is open for Nintendo to put characters in Crossworlds too
Why would nintendo bother shilling their competitors game?
>they said they’d view it as a success if they could at least sell 50% of Mario Kart World
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>579197431
It SHOULD be doable, considering MK World was mid as fuck and no one even plays it anymore.
But Sega also fucked themselves with the terrible price tag on Crossworlds.
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I keep seeing people describe Movie!Amy's outfit as "school-like" and now I have this autistic conspiracy about paramount and the movie team misunderstanding and mistranslating "Kogal" as "highschool girl" and fucking up as a result.
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>>579196878
You too, Amyfriend!
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>>579197631
The only thing school-like is the collar which is a reference to her classic outfit.
I hate the frilly dress though, assuming this isn't bullshit.
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>>579197580
>It SHOULD be doable
It's not, since Mario Kart World was a game that came bundled with the Switch 2. So every Switch 2 sale was a Mario Kart World sale.
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Mania is more liked than BoC
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>>579197571
>competitors
Bro still thinks its the 90s.
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>>579197808
In some parts of the world
In Japan they primarily sold World separately which led to Mario Kart World in Japan outselling Sonic Racing Crossworlds world wide without a bundle
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>are games more popular than comics
profound
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>>579197764
>which is a reference to her classic outfit.
You're still doing this?
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>>579197882
Why should nintendo shill someone else's kart slop when their kart slop is right there? even if it's from some indie dev studio like sanic teen?
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>>579197631
Good, we need Movienic in a school setting with the other aliens
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>>579197914
This is a videogame general.
Manga belongs on /a/
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>>579197996
Not sure what you're referring to there, anon. Amy's "classic outfit" via CD with the green tee has a white collar. What do you want from me?
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>>579197898
Mario Kart is popular, and the major reason for being sold separately was that Switch 2 started being sold using a lottery system. Since we had a really low number of consoles.
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>>579198015
>Why should nintendo shill someone else's kart slop when their kart slop is right there?
Because they still get profits from things selling on their console? Are you stupid?
No one is buying Crossworlds over or instead of MKW.
This is like saying why would Nintendo sell Sonic Colors and have it "compete" with Mario Galaxy.

You're an idiot to think so.
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>>579198036
People always meme about anime always being in highschool but im starting to think its not true, and its more americans are obsessed with highschool and this creates in both import and viewership bias.
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>>579198149
See>>579185582
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>>579198507
Okay, fair enough. Just my assumption.
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Why do westies see everything as a competition?
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>>579198383
And I think you learned about anime yesterday
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>>579197996
nta, I think it's like a Classic-inspired take of her Modern design, too?
>the shirt collar ripped out of her blouse
>the forehead hair-tuft is closer to Classic
>the modern boot stripes reimagined as laces
>[bonus!] the belt might be inspired by Boom's
Skirt frills possibly being Classic-based too (need higher-res to tell) is the least derivative thing here, but adds up.
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>>579198637
And I think you're younger than Kill la Kill
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>>579198775
>Modern anime comparison
Zoomer
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>>579198745
I think youre creating a pattern out of nothing because its sounds nice to believe in, really.
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>>579198910
>not denying it
Not beating the allegations...
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Sega considers Nintendo competition that’s pretty much a fact even now.
Does it negatively affect Sega having this mentality? Yes.
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>>579198260
no not really
>No one is buying Crossworlds over or instead of MKW.
from my pov at least, I am not going to buy multiple kart slop games. I will only buy what I find appealing the most. or what I find the people whom i want to play with use. and then there's what others would think about buying x2 70-90 bucks games thing. some may buy both, but i am only going to buy the most attractive. let's say i don't give a crap about sonic and only want mario and i got a switch and lets say mario is on the 70 dollar game. i may buy sega's 70 dollar game instead of nintendo's 90 dollar one. repeat for a couple million units. now which is more profitable to nintendo?
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>>579198910
Yeah, to show that they are young, stupid.
You want me to mention Full Metal Panic or Trigun instead? What about Mazinger Z or The Big O? How about Bubblegum Crisis?
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>>579199160
>Trigun
Do it, coward.
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>>579199020
>from my pov at least, I am not going to buy multiple kart slop games. I will only buy what I find appealing the most.
This isn't the average person.
The person buying CrossWorlds is doing so because they are actively looking outside of MarioKart. MarioKart gets bought on principle. Its like Madden of FIFA.
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>>579192332
Remember drawfrens, today is international boobs day
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S-SONIC.... I AM...

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>idw sth
ew
>archie
gross
>video games
bad
>boc
trash
>sonic x godzilla
goated
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today is National Big Boob Day
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>>579199503
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>>579197631
There is no Western equivalent to kogal, and Sega should have figured out a way around this by now.

Leaked "MovieAmy's" clothes seem to take design elements from Classic Amy. (i.e. the collar and the ruffed dress). But it's still Modern Amy at the end of the day.
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>>579199617
BLAZEBROS, LOOK OUT
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I think Sonic Prime is good
Archie is good
the movies are good
Satam is good
Sonic X season 3 is good
Sonic Unerground is good
Sonic 06 is good
Sonic boom is good
The Knuckles show is good
Sonic Forces is good
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>>579199653
>Leaked "MovieAmy's" clothes seem to take design elements from Classic Amy. (i.e. the collar and the ruffed dress). But it's still Modern Amy at the end of the day.
See>>579185080
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>>579199653
SA1 went by valley girl for it i think
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>>579199617
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>>579199697
>Anon doesn't think AOSTH is good
>Anon doesn't think OVA is good
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>>579199617
every day is international big boob day
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>>579199617
I thank my parents for blessing me with big knockers
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>>579199408
this is the average person who owns a switch.
what about the average person who doesn't? psfags, xboxfags, pcfags?
let's say i got a switch 2 and there are 2 kart games with mario, let's say i am the most low iq normie you can find, i am going to see crossworlds Mario dlc advertisement and let me make it clear that sega are going to make a big deal out of it they got mario on their game. and of course they are going to shill the rest of their DLCs because crossworlds is a big ambitious games with more characters than mario kart. and only for 20$ cheaper, you know, in this economy. Time to do the math, but first take a look a the olymptics games sales. now: why the fuck would nintendo nurture their own comptition?
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>>579198745
>>579199653
Oh yeah, the gloves too! Modern Amy's gloves are more slender than the other characters and don't have the cuffs like her Classic design did.
>>579198964
We know it's Sonic CD-inspired though, so how is it far-fetched?
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>>579199653
>There is no Western equivalent to kogal, and Sega should have figured out a way around this by now.
The closest analog woulf be like valley girls, but those have a negative connotation that kogal doesn't strictly have. Especially among certain modern types.
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>>579199802
You are probably right, I'm skeptical that that is a legit leak. but we gotta wait.
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>>579199937
holy crap, maris is back!
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>>579199617
Since when was this a thing? i don't mind it
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>>579199976 (Me)
>what about the average person who doesn't? psfags, xboxfags, pcfags?
and if "MarioKart gets bought on principle" like you say, there's less intensive for other console fags to buy a switch 2. since "mario kart" is on their playstation 5 or whatever
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Bunnie boobies
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>>579199617
Duo got to fuck those.
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Is this the same argument as the “Nintendo should let Samus into Fortnite on PC/PS5/Xbox since it can only positively affect them”?
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>>579199976
>this is the average person who owns a switch.
>what about the average person who doesn't? psfags, xboxfags, pcfags?
Nintendo doesn't see itself as competing with any of those to begin with and hasn't since the Wii.
By the time of the Switch, they quadrupled down on that stance by focusing on their IPs and brands cementing themselves as the Disney of gaming.

There is no "competing with PC and Xbox and PS5".
The console wars are a meme perpetuated by manchildren online that doesnt reflect hoe the company operate anymore even kind of.

Again, it isnt the 90s anymore.
Nintendo isn't "losing money" from Crossworlds selling on other platforms because it isn't relying on Crossworlds to draw audiences to the platform to begin with. Its, as you yourself admitted, slop. No one is buying a Switch just to play Crossworlds.
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>>579200185
People don’t tend to have that mentality, it’s why tactics games flop, kart racing games flop, platformers flop, on PlayStation and PC. People would rather not play anything than play the knockoff
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>>579200002
>We know it's Sonic CD-inspired though, so how is it far-fetched?
Why would that factor at all?
The CD inspiration begins and ends at Amy and Metal both being introduced in the movie and timetravel being involved somehow.
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>>579200278
Why did she flee?
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>>579200362
I forget sometimes Nintendos only rule about crossovers is they can’t show up on anyone else’s platform to prevent brand devaluation
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Is there a name for when an anthropomorphic animal like Sonic the Hedgehog is more sexually interested in humans than their own species?
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>>579200701
Furry or beastiality
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>>579200757
I thought that was the reverse, when a human was more sexually interested in Sonic the Hedgehog than other humans
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>>579200579
Because
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>>579200185
No one that could even possibly fit the description of what you are describing is buying Crossworlds so they dont "have" to buy MarioKartWolrd. I promise. People dont play MarioKart because its this must play once on a life time experience.
The Playstation has had a bunch of KartRacers exclusive to it across the history of the console line and none of them ever caught on the way MarioKart did for Nintendo.
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>>579200890
It’s the same either way legally, considering that animals regardless of intelligence levels can’t consent.
Studies on this and even the most crazy what ifs, like an ape with a higher IQ than a human, still would just be considered beastiality
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SCANA
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>>579201441
Lab Animal
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>>579201542
That's Scania.
>>579201547
That's racist.
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>>579201547
Yes that's an expression.
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>>579201547
>>579201773
Bestiality is animal abuse and G.U.N. was right to shoot this crazed animal abuser.
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>>579200376
This is not about console wars this about sales from the perspective of a for profit org.
why make one shekel when i can make three shekel by monopolizing on this asset (Mario the human man) that people love and adore? people love mario and zelda and will buy nintendo consoles because there's mario and zelda. why should I share my profit with sega (sonic and mario: crossdressing world) when i can usurp all of it (just mario and co) + you must buy my console if you want my exclusive title with exclusive characters and brand stuff? and even it it's not going to lose nintendo sales, let me ask this question again: why would nintendo nurture their own competitor who despite has a low chance of taking over, the chance is not 0? they don't care about "uwu we love our frenemy sonic and sonic and mario get along uwu hellokitty uwwwu". they are capitalists.
>>579200481
and nintendo's exclusive games continue to sell along with their console. (one shekel vs 3 shekel)
I am sharing Wii market share since it didn't have the luxury of being portable unlike the switch so you can't use the "switch is not a stationary living room thing"
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>>579201958
wholesome pairing
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>>579202172
Eggman if he wasn't a coward
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I think wee-men should do more to make pee-nises happy
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Mario won’t show up in a Sonic racing game and he won’t show up on his competitions platform
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>>579202246
Well he's done with Jackass now so he should have more time
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>>579200892
I love the silly idea of Robotnik being evil and rude to everyone except Vanille.
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>>579202487
>jack ass
no, jack bobs insted
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Can you please post more images of busty sage
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>>579196878
Sorry, I slept in. *Ahem*
Thanks, you too.
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>>579202150
deranged post
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>>579202603
I like that idea. That he plays the role of the villain to everyone, but when he is with the person he likes, he acts nice. But he can still act brute of possive depending the situation.
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Rape me anon! RAPE ME!
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>>579202185
I dont know why you think sales for Crossworlds necesarily means less sales for Nintendo's first party games when I just elucidated on why this isnt the case and doesnt happen.
No, CW getting a sale isn't a sale Nintendo loses on another game. Nintendo gets profits off of sales on CW.
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>>579203420
Only if you have a vagina and only because you asked so nicely. Both conditions must be met or no deal.
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GM
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>>579203420
Blaze to Blackcock
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>>579203248
I like to think he doesn't even need to like her. He just respects her because she's doing a fine job raising Cream.
And I love the idea of Eggman respecting good parents because of that fangame with the Ring Racers, where he tells Tails "that hedgehog did something right if he raised you".
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>>579203420
Silver to Blackcock
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Someone with a 5090 try using DLSS5 with Sonic
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>>579203441
I know you want Mario to sell Crossworlds instead of crossworlds selling because people want it. so that it doesn't fail forcing sega to squash sonic team's budget again. look at how much the olympics games used to sell compared to other sonic games. you might want to get close to these numbers. getting close and not replicating since the olymipcs games were not competing with anything else. except "xbox kinect sports" maybe.
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Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow and Amy get caught in some Chaos Control weapon where they're transported to another timeline. Shadow goes off on his own. The other four head into the bakery, Knuckles glares at bread, all good. Then Sonic notices Shadow in one of the booths. They all stare. He's with a pretty human blonde girl in her 20's, it's Maria, she lived and they share a pastry together. She laughs and wipes food off his mouth. He gives her an autistic looking smile. He is similar to normal Shadow but he is happy.
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>>579203698
Well, for me, he would obviously like her. I would think he only remembers thinking he likes, hates, or falls into his interests or needs. Otherwise, he won't remember it or care about it. About parents, he would have a complex about his own, so he would usually avoid such topics.
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>>579204182
>I know you want Mario to sell Crossworlds instead of crossworlds selling because people want it.
...wut? No, I think CQ is selling off of being another mascot kart racer on a platform where people who care for the genre exist.
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>>579203383
if the game let you wall champ instead of putting stupid slow floating platforms there, you wouldn't lose the sense of speed
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>>579204351
I just love the idea of Eggman... still wanting to take over the world, but not making a detour to be an ass to Vanilla, unlike what he does constantly everywhere else where he goes out of his way to be a dick.
Like in Sonic Heroes where he doesn't know what's going on but he still comes over to mess up whoever is attacking his army.
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Sassou Shounen Eiyuuden: Coca-Cola Kid (or "Dashing Boy Hero Tale: Coca-Cola Kid", known as "Comic Hero" in development) is a little-known Japan-only Game Gear game released in 1994 as part of a deal between Coca-Cola and Sega. In it, the hero dashes to rescue his kidnapped schoolteacher. The most notable thing about it is that is was built direct off the same engine as Sonic Chaos, and even shares the sound driver (also the final level is a cheap bitch without savestates designed to wasteyour time and lives). You might recognize some names in the credits from other Aspect/Sonic titles...
Anyway in honor of Boob Day the game has a boob-lady final boss who's the easiest boss in the game no doubt because she's a woman, and the game ends on a boob joke that falls flat because the teacher's boobs must've gotten shrunken down in development.
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>>579204767
Did that kid fucking die?
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>>579204329
And then their Shadow enters the bakery to find them and sees himself and what his life could have been like if it weren't destroyed :)
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>>579197431
Crossworlds is a live service game and live service games have oversaturated the market and new ones have lost 80 percent of their player base within just months of release. Sega has no one but themselves to blame because they think they can win by hopping on trends instead of setting them
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Be straight with me /sthg/.
Has this general ever made you genuinely learn something about the series? Especially lore-wise or character-wise.
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>>579205243
Yes. I learned a fair bit about Maria and how Ivo saw her.
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>>579204936
All that Coca-Cola caught up to him... at the worst possible moment...
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>>579205503
Oh, he's just getting smothered by her chest.
Phew.
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>>579205243
yeah, but it also lies to me constantly trying to sell me windnic as a positive because well at least it's better than Ian or something. I hate japanese cocksuckers
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>>579205243
I learned that Sonic is the wind.
Jk I already knew that since I played the games. Also I learned the 06 blaze gets transported to the sol dimension thing here. And the Shadow kabuki thing.
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>>579197431
It was the price tag that really hurt them. They did a half assed business model where they an expensive physical release to larp as a live service.
They should just be glad they didn't try going F2P and risk bombing even harder into an EoS
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human amy fanart is just sakura
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>>579204426
>I think CQ is selling off of being another mascot kart racer on a platform where people who care for the genre exist.
in other words, a competitor to their product...
>but it sells on a different console
which is also a competitor to their other product...
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>>579205609
>windnic
You mean Sonic? What other type of Sonic is there that isn't the wind? Which one specifically do you think is better westie?
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What’s Crossworlds sales number anyway
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>>579205243
Yes. About Sonic and Shadow's characters mostly
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>>579205824
any version of sonic that you hate, all those are better
>>579205842
we don't know
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>>579205503
>tongue sticking out, seemingly licking her
I think he's pulling the ol' "pretend to faint to get her nervous then go down on her" trick. Smooth! Cut to black..
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>>579204754
I get it.
He would still want to make his dream come true, but he is still human and has things he likes and people he likes. he is a villain, a bad guy, but he is nice to those he likes and loves and has an endearing side to him. That's for me, I know it's not the same for everyone, but I just like bad guys this way.
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>>579205895
>>579206071
You who's the black cat bitch
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Fuck you
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>>579206128
Ebony
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>>579206270
Very based
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>>579205071
This
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>>579205243
>Has this general ever made you genuinely learn something about the series?
I learned that sonic is a cereal mascot taken way too seriously, clearly the end goal since the roaring 90s was to make a lot of money, sell consoles and replace alex kidd. With little to no care from a company whose only the japanese team had a real passion for sonic (although, that died too with shitzuka).

I also learned that internet communities are bad in general and if you don't keep integrity you can end up as a terrible person yourself, but on the positive side now i know i always had a bad taste in everything, because i understood very little about the full story behind all my media and lacked the required critical thinking get out my bubble.
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>>579206561
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Krack has lost it, even her followers are bored of her posts about Shitdow
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>>579206651
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>>579206736
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>>579206897
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>>579205690
Rumble is a live service game and so is Crossworlds. It was a mistake to make both because there is no certainty that they will retain a high player base in the long term and it's not cheap to set up servers for them. If Sega was smart enough to cancel their planned live service, ultra-high budget super game because they saw it wouldn't be profitable, then they really messed up by making Rumble and Crossworlds. They could've used the money that went into those games to make single-player games and get merch licensing deals with Paramount instead. Live service games are a bubble right now.
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>>579206683
Duo checks her profile every day. Isn't he precious? He loves her like Surge loves Sonic.
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does anyone else here care about the shadmari slop besides the usual suspect who's probably posting?
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YAHOO
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>>579205243
Absolutely. I have learned more on here than anywhere else actually.
So much that its kinda hard to point out anything to start from. For one, I learned that Amy knowing Sonic prior to CD is fanfiction made up by people taking things from Archie.
I learned about Silver's love of apples, as well as him being rude. I learned that Sonic's shoes are literally folded boots as well as the fact a lot of the things SoA said about Sonic was PR bs. I learned Cream was in fact made for Adv2.
I learned Sonic Adventure started as a Saturn game and that NiGHTs is basically a bunch of ideas Sonic Team had for Sonic originally but repurposed for a new IP.
Many things.
But most of all, it encouraged me to do a lot more of my own research and learn things on my own.
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>>579205738

momo
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>>579207178
>NiGHTs is basically a bunch of ideas Sonic Team had for Sonic originally but repurposed for a new IP
Oh so kinda like Popful Mail?
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>>579205779
>in other words, a competitor to their product...
>which is also a competitor to their other product...
No. We've been over this.
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>>579207135
nobody literally cares
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>>579205738
Just because she is the only pink haired anime girl you know doesnt make this true, normie.
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>>579207072
Stop stalking my YouTube history
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>>579207509
Consider the following.
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>>579207695
Amy isn't a traitorous bitch though
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>>579207695
One of my first crushes. After Sailor Moon.
Deserves all the spankings, though.
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>>579207301
Sonic 1 was originally gonna be about running around in a dream world.

This got shelved on favor of the idea of a nature vs tech theme instead.

The dream stuff still influenced certain games like.CD and Shuffle especially, but by and large Sonic Twam leaving to work on NiGHTs seemed to be them wanting to actually explore those ideas like they wanted, which then evolved into the idea of "flying in a dream" instead.
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>>579207695
Nah
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>>579207635
Wdym?
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>>579207178
>I learned Cream was in fact made for Adv2.
You mean Adventure 3 (shelved at the time in favor of Heroes; later got retooled into Unleashed)? Since we KNOW she's NOT a Sonic X character or TMS would be handsy with her, yet her first known appearance was in the internal pilot..
>>579207301
I think Anon is referring to Twin Stars, maybe? Ohshima claimed NiGHTS is unrelated though, and iirc also said that even though it morphed into Sonic 1 he doesn't consider it the same game and would like to make it someday.
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>>579208078
If I posted this to reddit and said "How do you like my Sakura fanart" everyone would praise it.
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>>579207135

I find it kinda cute, it's not my fav thing and i wouldn't immensely fight for it but it's the only shadow ship that can make sense.
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>>579207892
Nights was born from Oshima and Naka watching a performance by Cirque du Soleil and wanting to make a game about it. Christmas Nights was just Oshima wanting it to add Christmas and Santa to it too.
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>>579208169
No
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Question, how would you react to something that seems to copy sonic with a similar design, but the theme/mood is not the same?
Think about another klonoa but it's way off like too lighthearted, or maybe it's way edgier than sonic or even grimdark.

Would you be intrigued and give it a chance, or turned off as if you already know it's just the same autistic sauce?
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the black arms are dangerous and Shadows knows. There is no reason why he shouldn't want to remove that DNA from his body. Anything he does form now on that isn'trelated to curing his alien infection is OoC
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Do you love me?
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>>579207892
Oh yeah, Robotnik was originally "Mister Dreamer", right?
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>>579209165
I've seeb the concept art but not the name.
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>>579208890
Bowser Jr. says
>who are you calling kid?
if even a todler like Bowser Jr. thinks you are a little brat it means nobody respects Silver
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>>579209346
Name might be made up, I heard it on an iceberg video.
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eggman should stop trying to free/summon/utilize ancient alien creatures. or organic lifeforms in general. he doesn't really have more success when he builds big robots, but it is less embarrassing than getting knocked aside by your own 'ally'
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Eggman should spend more time with his daughter
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>>579209580

Making eggman genderbend a generic young attractive skinny female is slop honestly, i kind of feel the same about genderbent sonic boys where it's mostly them with tits or wearing skimpy stuff instead of clothing choices and curves making sense with sonic design rules and their personalities + having no effort to feminize their quill style.
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>>579209720
Would Cream like it?
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>>579209895
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>>579210062
That's just Evan if you forget that she's going bald.
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>>579210180
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>>579210062
Make it cartoonier
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>>579207135
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>>579209580
it worked out in frontiers since exposing his ai to a database of people who got massacred forged the perfect daughter
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>>579149834
Sage is the best character ever introduced to Sonic
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Are you ignoring me? Am i not pretty enough? :(
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>>579210268

Better though it's boom instead of EGG
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>>579210526
>botted poll
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>>579210526
>botted poll with no real anti botting/cheating guards
anyways
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I had sexual intercourse with Princess Sally Acorn
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>>579211510
Crazy, so did I!
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>>579210526
When
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>>579211510
Penders-sama...
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>>579211510
Shadow...
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>>579209580
That's just Maria.
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>>579210526
i remember when we still made these and that was around the time shadougefag was seething about knuxouge. and the sonamybestie was ass blasted at the same time for some reason. then i noticed sonamy and knuxouge were top 2 with very big numbers much more than how many posters we have per day. we don't have 80 posters here that's for sure. also i noticed sonamy was going at 1v per minute. so it was obvious the sonamybestie was working overtime. that got to be the most botted poll. but the point is that platform ain't reliable
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>>579210953
but she's always in a bunny suit
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>>579208113
>You mean Adventure 3
No
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>>579207178
>>579208113
>Yuji Naka states Cream was "created for Sonic Heroes" (late 2003) but Sonic Advance 2 (late 2002) had faster development and was used to formally introduce her to the series sooner.
>Sonic Advance 2 started development in February 2002; Sonic Heroes started development in April 2002
Okay, so this means Cream was added to Sonic Adventure 2 mid-development rather than being there at the beginning (probably it was Amy before being moved to guest character). So far so good. What complicates matters is:
>Sonic X's internal-production pilot is dated sometime in 2001, where Cream ALREADY appears - before EITHER game entered development - BUT possibly while Sonic Adventure 3 was in pre-production!
>Cream's designer suggests creating her for Sonic Advance 2
So SOMEONE(S) lying somewhere. If you've seen the NiGHTS video on Self (the deleted bonus boss) you get the sense that the developers sometimes don't coordinate with each other on what questions to answer on interviews. So my theory is that this inconsistency is due to a little prepped PR-speak. Why would they get fans' hopes up and say "btw we almost almost a Sonic Adventure 3 if Dreamcast lived a bit longer?" Better to fudge the details in the moment and leave that out: Naka and Nishiyama just weren't coordinated on how to present it, so Naka outright fibbed about her being made for Heroes since he saw Heroes as Adventure 3's replacement.
Alternate theories: 1) Cream IS a TMS-created character, and TMS was so sore about losing her out to Sega/Sonic Team that they updated the terms of the contract by the revival season (i.e.Cosmo), 2) the Sonic X pilot was misdated on the DVD release that included it and actually doesn't predate her game development. Either way, the situation is crazy!
Hey, what if the sudden "she and Vanilla manage a Chao garden" loredrop from her Fast Friends Forever profile was derived from her lost Sonic Adventure 3 appearance?
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Why does all the fanart give Vanilla and Cream super long ears? They barely go past their head
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>>579212013
Because it looks hot on Cream
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>>579211843
The Sonic X Pilot is likely dated wrong since there's Sonic heroes 3D models in the Sonic X concept sketches meaning it must have existed already regardless of which option
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>>579211750
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Lettuce got bullied away by JP Purist Silverfags
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Surge is destined to love Sonic
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>>579212293
Still looks good
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Surge’s huge round green butt
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>>579212293
>>579212919
Neat.
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Remember, the Eggman Empire is our best ally. They're the ones who offer the best technology and have the best intelligence in the whole world.
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Anyone here going to club chaos?
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>>579213121
06 should have used Dapple instead of Blaze.
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>>579211843
>Okay, so this means Cream was added to Sonic Adventure 2 mid-development rather than being there at the beginning (probably it was Amy before being moved to guest character).
Adventure 2?
>Adventure 3
Nishiyama said himself she was made for Advance 2.

You have to remember Sonic Team was split again during the era. Nishiyama stayed in Japan and worked with Dimps on Advance games while Naka and Iizuka and co. worked on Adventure 2 and Heroes, etc.
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>>579213472
Dapple should swap Blaze in Rush too, nobody likes Blaze
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>>579213351
>Thundercat

https://youtu.be/VsaBrSgnQaU
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>>579212193
The Sonic Heroes models were made originally for a teckdek collab.
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>>579213275
>woman self insert as Silver to fuck Mephiles
wow
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The funny star fox 64 parody guy just made a Sonic parody
https://youtu.be/Lqsg1RE6Jag
Thots?
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>>579213121
That's not even what fridging is.
Maria is closer to a fridged character than 06 Blaze.
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>>579213850
>tech deck
Hoooooly shit, nostalgia blast
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>>579213648
Dapple should replace everyone.
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Nobody talks how Blaze's ass is just as flat as her chest
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>>579213874
Mephiles has that gray wolf and old man yaoi energy in him.
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>>579214096
Yeah lol. I was shocked when I learned that as well. Apparently they also made a prototype for what wpuld eventually become, or at least inspire, Sonic Riders.
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>>579214314
hmmmfff this pair is stacked. Is this how they survived so long in the ruined future?
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The Cream situation is interesting because Rouge also had weird planned debut issues too.
Apparently nobody can determine if she was made for Sonic X first or Sonic Adventure 2 as her concept arts for the games and Sonic X make things suspicious
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>>579214420
blaze has a dick you faggot
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>>579213874
tbf I'd fuck Mephiles too
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>>579214314
big scat artist energy
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>>579213121
>>579214024

another point is that ''being killed off to kickstart another character's devolopment'' literally applies to sonic himself with elise but people mindlessly weaponize seemingly progressive narratives for agendaposting these days.
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>>579214491
>nobody can determine if she was made for Sonic X first or Sonic Adventure 2
?
First I hear about this. Everything i have ever read makes it clear she was made for SA2 with some suggesting her concept started during SA1 similar to Shadow.
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>>579211808
>>579211843
>>579213573
I'm inclined to believe Naka in this instance because we already know from a THIRD designer that Cream was already planned right at the beginning of Heroes' production. Picking apart uncareful wordchoices in fan-translated interviews is rank-S schizo-nonsense.
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>>579214664
don't say that....
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>>579214681
Even that isn't really bridging either.

Fridging is when the character is killed off in a way where the character is incidental and trivial but acts as a superficial motivation for the motivation of a plot if the MC.

Its not simply when a women (or character) dies in a way that pushes another character. It doesnt even have anything to do with development specifically.

The reason Maria is closer to fridging (but i'd argue still not) is because Maria as a character doesn't really exist as a character but as a thing to die so Shadow and Gerald can be sad and want revenge. The fact she is a sweet girl that dies is used to make their desire for revenge sympathetic.

06 Blaze os nothing of the sort. Not only is she not even dead, but the point if her scene on 06 is her teaching Silver a lesson and doing a heroic deed at the end of the story. By this time, both Silver and Blaze had been established and interacted up to that point. She isn't just a girl shaped thing that exists to die to give Silver a motivation for his actions in a story.
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>>579214132
Let's not get too far, we like our cast, except Blaze.
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>>579214132
Much like with Blackrock, you'll be disappointed when the actual issue comes out.
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>>579214725
You can already imagine the projectile giga turds alt stash
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>>579214697
You don't have a reason to believe this tweet represents the literal beginning of the line up of production as if Heroes was already fully thought out the second they started conceptualizing the game lol.

I don't see ehat reason Nishiyama has to lie, and his bias towards the character is very clear and observable both in works he worked on and how he is about them outside of official works.

Meanwhile Naka, being producer and in-charge of being the face and doing promo, has the incentive to do so to promote Heroes itself as a game.

Like, could it be the reverse? Sure vut it seems way less likely
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>>579210647
Trixie...
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>>579213302
This smells like a brony
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>>579215707
obsessed nigger
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>>579215284
I don't think either of them is fridging, but people like to use manipulative language to push agendas while ignoring when the games feature the same situation they talked about with the male characters too, if anything blaze looks cooler there with the heroic deed that silver is to wussy to be worthy of while sonic just jobs to mephiles.

i think it's kind of weird that blaze only interacted with silver and i think a bit with mephiles(?) but it's a 20 year old game with famously at least 13 missing cutscenes in it, it's only brought up to agendapost really.

>>579214690
Shadow and rouge concept started during SA1? any info regarding this?
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>>579211754
>Poll is botted because Sonamy is the most popular ship according to it
Meds
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>>579215707
Same, he draws Blaze like he colors Twilight's flank.
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>>579214697
I can't imagine how much worse heroes would've been if they had included all these teams.
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Why hasn't the xbox360 version of Sonic the Fighters been ported to PC proper?
>It's in that Like a Dragon game
Not the point. Why isn't the game just on Steam with proper online?
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>>579207301
Isn't Popful Mail a Falcom IP?
>you will never live in that alternate timeline where Falcom made the 90s to 10s Sonic RPG already
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not enough fanart of chaos council :(
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>>579215284
>bridging
*fridging
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>>579215930
>Shadow and rouge concept started during SA1? any info regarding this?

Shadow specifically, the idea of a dark sonic rival was tossed around during Sonic Adventure 1, but no actual work on it was done until SA2. Rouge i remember some people suggesting her concept would have made sense as an NPC in Station Square back when she was Nails.
Ive also seen some peoplr suggest spider girl got recycled into Rouge.
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>>579216502
When was it tossed around? i mean i know maekawa was tasked to think about it but that was when sa2 was conceptualized right?
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>>579216246
I dunno. All I know is that Popful Mail was meant to be a "sister Sonic" game.
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>>579213351
I'd be too old to be there, but they're gonna stream it anyway.
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>>579213947
Funny
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>click on a random Forces video
>opens up with "It's been 10 years since Forces was revealed"
I don't need to be reminded of shit like that
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>>579215930
>I don't think either of them is fridging, but people like to use manipulative language to push agendas while ignoring when the games feature the same situation they talked about with the male characters too, if anything blaze looks cooler there with the heroic deed that silver is to wussy to be worthy of while sonic just jobs to mephiles.
>i think it's kind of weird that blaze only interacted with silver and i think a bit with mephiles(?) but it's a 20 year old game with famously at least 13 missing cutscenes in it, it's only brought up to agendapost really.
Sure. My point is more my frustration of the misapplication of these terms to begin with because it completely misses the point of them and instead uses them to fire shots.

The reason fridging is bad isn't because "fridging is bad". Its bad because it leads to bad writing.

The feminist critique of the phenomenon wasn't about women needing to be treated better in the name of women's wrights. Like, yeah its a part of it, but moreso it was pointing out how unconscious bias and treating female characters are purely disposable can straight up lead to shlocky and poor writing.


To build on my point for a bit, the reason Maria isn't a case of driving is because Maria was introduced that way. She is already dead and introduced as such as a background motivation for the villains.

When Kyle's girlfriend got put in the fridge, she was put there as a gruesome shock value hook purely to Kickstart his motivation for punching badguys in a way that's tacky, and showed how female characters are disporportionately treated as disposable in the medium.
Her death was treated more like "fuck you for breaking my stuff" as opposed to a meaningful emotional relationship.

Compare this to Maria where the game does show us Shadow and Maria's relationship and this gives us a reason for why Shadow and thus we should care that she died and treats the death as symbolically and narratively important.
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>>579216662
Shadow's actual character didnt get property worked on until SA2. But the idea of what would become Shadow came up during SA1.
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>>579217367
Beautiful
I'm not a furry either I just think she's beautiful and would ravage her
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>>579214491
I'd imagine Sonic Team had the designs for Cream and Rouge finalized and sitting in the vault for future games by the time Sonic X was being made so they said "yeah go ahead and use these, we're gonna be adding them soon"
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>>579217556

It's kind of ironic that the creator of the meme i think draws blaze as coomerbait and projects her to suck off sonic in that kind of art (or the reverse idk i just know its a sonazefag) like if you're going to feministfag at least be consistent about it.
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>>579217718
any source for that tho? i mean that's what i asked

>>579218070(me)
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Sonic was never good
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>>579215672
>I don't see ehat reason Nishiyama has to lie,
You do know that he was involved in Heroes' production too, right? It's entirely feasible he omitted a detail because he knew the interview was about Advance 2. Or Nishiyama always meant to cross-introduce her in both simultaneously and Naka was misinformed. The only way to know for sure is to ask for clarification on their social-media account.
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Y'all sleeping on Dulcy porn
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>>579216689
Yeah that was just them trying to market the game to the west, then the earliest case of anti-Sonicism came up in revolt against the idea and the whole thing dropped.
The IP died anyways.
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>>579219821
Shame, the girl was cute.
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>>579217367
Krack the Hedgie>>579217843
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>>579217843
Rouge started out as Nails during Sa2 concepts.
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>>579217367
>>579219989

This was an ai gen from krack. I remember her posting it like 3 yrs ago in discord.
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>>579216275
that's to be expected
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>>579220206
eugh
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>>579215284
>Fridging is
A bullshit term made up by a feminist piece of shit named Gail Simone. One of the garbage subhumans responsible for ruining the American comic book industry.
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>>579220027
No she fucking didn't, she started as "Shadow" (Shadow being Terios).
I swear these disproven SA2 dev"facts" proliferate even worse than Star Fox's metal legs.
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>>579221020
Can't believe we almost had Lara Croft's fursona
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>>579104070
>Also the mario general just died, letting you know
They revived minutes later.
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Mario. Sonic.
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Tails = Fails
Tails is the biggest cuck.



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