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I love my motherdaughterwife very much
Endfield is the best gacha game on the market right now.
>>579225328
>>579225328FPBP>>579225354SPBP
>>579225231
THE LOATHSOME HORSEWORM
>>579225328The only mother we have is the Mother of Originium. And we are kinda Perlica's and Lycia's mother/father.
>>579225606>High chance he becomes the strongest dps in the gameHow much will schizos lose it when a male is the metagod
Uh-oh
>>579225706he'll be electric vanguardLeek will get the horsecock
>>579225606Distractingly large horsemantits
>>579225328based
>>579225768Leekfags will lose it and probably turn into doomposters, and honestly? I'm all for it.
>>579225606>>579225774He's got a bigger chest than Warfarin.
>>579226007That's not a high bar.
>>579225606longma nuts
>>579225768>he'll be electric vanguardI'll become natureGAWD if that happens
>>579225606I wanna suck on his fat tits.
>>579225609It's a joke since she acts like a mother sometimes.
Neffy LOVE
Divegrass suggestion box: https://forms.gle/bLYCCpEtpQU3kKtt8
I'm about 100% sure Warfarin will be Si-sized, no way they'll make her completely flat
>>579226257Warfarin has very noticeable non-flat boobs in her E1 art
>>579226257She's like a B cup. She might actually be bigger than Si.
>>579225231Glory to the Supreme Chief of Qingbo Stockade
Is Liino worth getting if I don't have Fangyi?Can she work without her signature art unit?
>>579226776No, lol
>>579225231Who's that again?
>>579226776she's good for all of the electric and nature DPS charactersmost of her utility is her signature weapon
>>579226874SoupSoup
>>579226874Supreme Chief TT
>>579226874the broth
You only like her cuz you wanna FUCK HER.
>>579226874sex cat
>>579225768>Hongshan elite guard>Not a guard
My beautiful wife Arcane.
>>579227561a van-guard
>>579227469I wanna fuck Endmin B too.Imagine the clout of fucking the entire planet's godmother. Plus her big tits and ass.
>>579226197We need a big ass chubby lung at the goal.
>>579227671gonna END?
>>579227671HERE!?
>>579227671>Animated feather ears.Damn
>>579227582
I want art of El Condor Pasa's MASSIVE breasts
Is Perlica a virgin?
>>579228624many people are saying this
>>579228689Yes, she's been waiting 10 years for (You)
>>579228689>fEndmim>VirginShe's like 150. She has fucked around. Chen definitely has casual sex when on expeditions/operations.
>>579228908I'm not a whore...
>>579228689this tier list is so old I remember seeing it back in februarytangtang was not even out
>>579228570
>>579228739Ah wrong tabWhatever, her 89 cm bust is loved across the universe
>>579228689Why is used goods a tier closer to virgin than having casual sex? And Chen should probably drop down a tier. She'd be down for anyone who asked her.
>>579229254Used goods as it have had sex at least once.
>>579229320That's like almost every adult beyond the PTSD-havers.And shouldn't Estella havr her own tier? Having been a landbreaker slave for her entire childhood?
I wish I managed to get Arcane
>>579225606Ivermectin STAT!!!
Would an uma isekai'd into Arknights universe still be stronger than your average human? Just not as much?Like, can any race reach speeds of 100 km/h without any arts?
Sex with Okugi!
>>579228689>>579229621this is a gacha so its more like thisthe only ones that ever got some action are the nymphos (avy, fluorite), the DTF (chen, gil) and the childhood trauma ones (estella, liino)
>>579229682I went pity on Arcane and then she spook'd me on Liino's banner.If I could give you one of the copies I would.
>>579230132Her P1 is pretty damn good
>>579230101You wouldn't fuck a cat... thing...
>>579230101Arknights has never been the kinda gacha where it pretends characters are virgins. Almost everyone is presented to have their own life beyond you, the player.Also fEndmin is still not a virgin.
I spooked Arcane P1 on the same 10 pull I got her. I should probably try her in a team at some point.
>>579230386Arknightsthis is not Arknights, its Arknights: Endfield
>>579230203I'm not complaining, it just surprised me. I like the SP recovery.
>>579230386cute bait, but this isn't /akg/
ichi-ni-san-shī? (gomen nasāi)
Endmin has canonically had sex with every character at least once.
Can I do the run timer event and get all rewards quickly? I haven't done yet.
>>579230447Endfield has the same level of individuality for the operators though. With the obvious exceptions (Perlica, Estella) their files talk about a social life outside (You).
Arcane eggs............
>>579226197Any divegrass updates? Manager wasnt accepted last time i checked due to the guy verifying it got himself banned from shitcord or something?
>>579230656You can do all missions and get all the rewards in two runs.When you get to Triaggelos just stand in a corner and dodge the impacts to get the 125-in-one-round mission.
>>579230656yeah it's easy, both Rooted Realm and Cryptic.
>>579230698She seems to have difficulty laying them, better help her.
>>579229254Chen wouldn't even remotely do that. She's a battletard. She'd ask you why she'd waste time for that shit, and proceed to hone her strength.
the lack of La Pluma in Endfield saddens me greatly
>you must care about my glup shitto
I strongly approve of this best girl OP
>>579230386It never pretended characters were virgins, but also only a handful of characters have confirmed relationships and the game scrupulously avoids speaking of most character's personal lives. Though I guess it's easy to say that Midnight isn't a virgin...
>>579225191They don't need huge boobs to be attractive. Warfarin is a master of seduction.
Escort Operator in Endfield when?
Endfield original > Sloppy seconds from OGAK
>>579233257If course it wouldn't mention their sexual life, that'd completely irrelevant beyond like, stories that involve abuse.The games just never pretend that the operators don't have loves outside of the missions you bring them on.
>>579233506your Avy?
>>579233454She's REALLY hot but I aldo think she does have bigger boobs than that.She'll also likely look a bit different, being like twice the age in Endfield that she is in Arknights. Just like how Mon3tr got a redesign.
>>579233506If you introduced Estella to the concept she'd probably sell herself for a bit of extra cash
>>579233997You think you can convince Estella to WORK? Really?
Went back to OG and played Ch16.Oka is a liquid that is a byproduct of energy depeleted Originium. It is a universal solvent, but it kills people. I can't wait for the stuff to come to our factories. Instead of water, we can mix it with xiranite to produce something more active and heavy than liquid heavy xiranite.
Why is there literally zero search interest for Endfield when it's the best gacha game on the market?
>>579233997Estella? You mean "Please don't give me physically demanding work." Estella?
>>579234150saar....
>>579234150I already know everything about it, I don't need to search on googlePlus you're a subhuman
>>579234101>So I got this really high paying job for you and all you need to do is lie down here for a bit>You can even play with your phone while doing it
>>579234187it's>I'm Estella. *said in a tired manner*>And please don't give me physically-intensive assignments. *said quickly*>Thank you. *says slow and sweetly*
>>579234101>>579234187If you tell her that she can just lay there I think she'd be happy to not have to workBut I just remember that under her clothes she has A LOT of scars and burn marks
>>579234462>she has A LOT of scars and burn marksthat's really fucking hot
>>579234348LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>579234462>But I just remember that under her clothes she has A LOT of scars and burn marksOnly makes it better.
>>579234348kek, holy shit they just can't stop outing themselves
>>579234462so she has extra holes
>>579225747Heres the real uh-oh. Guess we know who is gay or not now.
nyo...
Pink stink
>>579234397>>579234462The fuck kinda sex have you guys been having, where the woman lying there like a dead fish is satisfying...
>>579235090>Sleep rape roleplay>Reverse glory hole>Abandonment play in bondageYou lack creativity.
>>579234150>>579234348Samebrown falseflag
>>579234150>>579234348>pajeet town forgot the real king
>>579235276>>579235338>brown impact
>>579234958STOP THE COUNT
>>579235090Huh? I'm talking about the kind Estella's lazy ass wants. Escorts do it for money not pleasure.
Wuwafags not sending their best
>>579234150>>579234348Kek
>>579234816which operator do we need a point laugh sticker next
Leek!
>>579236019CHEN!
Threads too fast nowadays
>>579235867If they bother you, just remind them that they're not the best.
>>579236174Sorry I'll post less and fuck Liino more
>>579236094not sure if you missed it
>>579235843And an escort who doesn't put any effort into fucking isn't an escort for long. That doesn't feel good for either side.
>>579234920CN uses bilibili, their youtube channel is deserted aside from some Taiwan viewers
>>579236965I checked bili and it had less views than this they don't really check the main channels.
>>579236178saar do the needful and delete this blody benchoid basterd
>>579237094万 means 10,000
>>579237706Well my point was actually the thumbnails not the views anyway
>>579237878NO CHEN IT'S A TRAP
>>579237923i see horseguy on ENa while back youtube lets you rotate thumbnails and titles on videos, they're probably using that here.
>>579237878>>579237958>>579238068Cute. What video are those from?
>>579238371https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m_gCPqqajuE
>>579238462
>>579230883Still waiting on that, but the banned guy gave me an update that things might move forward soon-ish regardless of his current status.
Why didn't HG address gugugaga at the event
Why didn't HG address Typhoeus not being released yet at the event
>>579240170I love how it went from -100 to +100.
>>579240170>>579240265Diabolical Chen to retard Chen
>>579239551They already scheduled her release in-game.Just wait till the current banner end.
>>579240170she looks like Voldemort
>>579241074*headpat* *smooch*
>>579240170>as far removed from Yellow Chen as Yellow Chen is removed from ChenfieldWHAT THE FUCKAlso funny how Lowlight's style stayed exactly the same as in the days he was working on GFL.
>>579240170Did they talk about the element system at all? Fire chen would've been something cool in a no-elemental game but after they added genshin elements they had to remove the fire aspect from chen to make her synergize with endmin
https://litter.catbox.moe/qmzccn.jpg
Any leeks?
>>579212616based devs understood the meaning behind greek sculptures as an archetype.
>>579241920small girls with a bush are the secret sauce
Perlica, Rossi, Typhonoeus. You must choose one of these three to kill with your own hands. Whom do you choose?
>>579242329sorry bro i'm not a psycho
>>579242329It's Typhoeus
>>579236865Who makes these?
hot red brick
>>579242329I choose (You).
>>579242146I just woke up. Good morning.Here's to another Leekwife very big love day
>>579242762With a red hot dick!
>>579242851>>579135959you're early
>>579241778not really what they did mention was that originally wulfgard and chen were aligned with endfield until the worldbuilding got more completed then they got changed to be the landbreaker and hongshan representative characters
>>579242329Typhon is literally built for ryona
>>579242762hot red impregnated brick
https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/s/KDlSPVUmnkhoshieve dev talk summary
>>579242329Watching Perlica wet herself on an electric chairCarving Rossi into a beautiful statuePiercing Typhoeus's body with arrow after arrow
Not feeling so good about next patch. Looks like a whole lot of nothing...
>>579243415The puzzle area looks good, as does steeplechase. Certainly, 1.5 looks better than 1.3.Buuut, it's still going to be a more relaxed patch... And only one new character isn't going to be kind to the revenue charts...
The Foundation preserves human form and disrcards human essence. The devs also got inspired by ancient greek pantheon and grecorroman sculptures.What if Diogenes grabbed Fiammeta and took off her clothes?
>>579242329Perlica is a DECEIVER. Mark my words, she's going to end up playing divegrass for /fng/, that traitorous wench
>>579243575who tf cares about jeetcharts for a pc game. Ignore the poochart posters.
>>579243745
>>579243575>Certainly, 1.5 looks better than 1.3.It's worse by virtue of no CC. That was 2 weeks of free entertainment
>>579243745walking amongst precursor coffins in the tech test trailer hmm..ominous bitch.
egg
>>579244106EGG? FIBSHE!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL9iMPx9CpQ
>>579243873that just means 1.6 is gonna be fucking massive. its gonna be better then 1.3 since we have actual gamemodes now. EOW seasons, the new farming restaurant gamemode, CC test #2, All the standard bullshit like umbral delver and the new speedrun casual evens we get and ofc it being the wuling finale with si / even major patch. The amount of content cycles in future patches looks very promising.
>>579243873You know, it completely slipped my mind that CC was in the last half of 1.3... My mind just kind of focused on the new area compared to Sword Vault Dale.
>>579244106Not EVERY male who plays this game is trans. Just most of them.
>>579244854So vacant compared to her concept art, so mercifully spared the spark of intelligence...
>>579244854
>>579244991BREATHE FIRE BITCH
>>579244273I think people are overestimating the 1.6 zone. It's unlikely to be much more than the building. I'm thinking the marker stone interior dealio We'll have some space outside for the animals then it's just the building. I don't think we'll get a full fledged zone
Why's everybody always pickin' on Chen?
>>579245105its the wuling finale it has to be. And since 1.5 is look so small in scope compared to 1.4 they are prepping for 1.6.
>>579245105the manor map is in game already, it's a full fledged zone.
>>579245126She lurks in the shadows...
>>579245105I reckon it's going to be sizable. At least Jingyu Valley sized, but it will be the only map for 1.6
I will NEVER forgive them for robbing me of CHENRAGON
>>579245303show?
>>579245174'Cause she wore velour flares until the late 80s'Cause she runs like a girl and sits down to pee'Cause her only school chum was the lunch ladyShe took her mom to the prom but still got lucky
>>579245174You have to bully a Lung to start their ovulation cycle prior to insemination; it's basic biology
>>579245406https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1yEu36wES4/
lol leekposters are as pathetics as lucia and dogshitposters in /zzz/
>>579245395We didn't need another bitchy wet blanket in the family line. Good riddance
>>579245908why be mean for no reason?
>>579245908Look at what you've done. Now we're going to have to flood the thread with leekart...
>>579245970No one likes to be forced to like something. And if you were successfully deceived into liking it, you're subhuman.
>>579245486also as far as i can tell this guy still hasn't found any more ground in the LODs so these four maps are it for wuling.the blue one highlighted here is the 1.5 map, the orange one is confirmed to be in 1.6. so the white and green ones are probably going to be split between 1.6/1.7 or both in 1.7.
>>579246172Spreadin' the Leeklove
>>579245908As a perlicaposter I will not let you slander my leekbros
>>579246069how many tail womps against ur pp before u would cum /END/?
>>579245961FUCK YOUI WANT COOL RETARDED DRAGON CHAN
>>579246352Let's throw a party to cheer Fangyi up!
Leeklove is eternal and forevermore
>>579246532you have to wait until the chen's mom arc
rock status?
>>579246578Just a bit. Too much spam is no good either
>>579245908good morning sir
>>579242762SHEIS NOTA BRICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
:D
>>579247002
>>579245458Dude, that song is old enough to have kids and watch them in high school... Nobody's going to recognize wtf you're referencing. Also...>'Cause she runs like a girl and sits down to peeFunny how girls pee like girls...>'Cause her only school chum was the lunch ladyUh, ARCANE?>She took her mom to the prom but still got luckyDude, her mom fucked off when she was a kid and left her all alone, you jackass.
>>579243838i rikea rittle retarded, but i rike nonetheress
realistically speaking, what could be the next region?(not) Greece?(not) Tokyo?(not) Detroid?(not) Mexico?
>>579248475An NPC mentioned that the construction of Talos City had stalled - we might go there to fix things.Martina invited us to see her museum - we might take her up on that offer.We've had some quests with ties to Sesqa, perhaps its time to take to the skies.The Foundation is operating offworld - maybe it's time for us to follow?
>>579248475La Fantoma. So (not) Miami I guess? Or (not) Ibiza?
>>579248475Iberia from arknights or (not)spain
>>579248475The Void
>>579248475The SEA
>>579245908what?
>>579248475la fantoma which is the equivalent of spain in endfieldI'm not sure we'll go chase nefarith to talos5 any time soon
>>579249234Go to /zzz/ and post "Dogshit", literally.
>>579249234leekhater accidentally revealing its (unsurprising) identity/origins. Pay it no heed
>>579247049Ni är elaka :(
>>579249560>(unsurprising)It was a shock to me! I was certain they were from Trickcal... Everyone knows you can't trust THEIR sort...
Terrible thread endkeks
>>579218159>Me. Impregnating them all is kinda my hobby.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNiCQU7MfsY
>>579252914>pregnant honses
>>579252914
>>579252914kino
oh noes
>>579253632i need perlolica footjob thank u
>>579234348Now lets look at Worldwide
Nom Nom Nom
>>579254375pat pat pat
Don't forget endkeks, popularity is the real sign of quality for browns.
>>579254375fat fat fat
>>579254581
why would i want to escape??
>>579254651Shave off some kilos before you start acting cute, fatty
>>579254642>>579254748
>>579254732crash bandicoot stages were kino
https://fantia.jp/posts/4214157#post-content-id-7711618
I will not be rolling for any m*les
>>579254989i'm rolling for all the males. i hope we get an all male meta team.
>>579254805the fattest of the sui proxies
>No you see, never getting to play 3/4 of your operators is superior and them relegated to being literal bots is superior to swapslop, even tho swapslop would actually allow you to play your whole team, I love building all these characters just so I can let them be controlled by AI, so much better than that filthy swapslop! Who want's to actually PLAY more than one of their own characters?It'd be one thing if Endfield's combat was actually fun but it's not, just spam a repetitive basic attack combo while ocassional pressing E when skills light up, there's no depth, no mechanical complexity, no dynamic elements, no skill expression. Just spam basic attack while occassionally dodging the very clearly telegraphed attacks and pressing E when button lights up>Post your CC clearsI don't give a fuck about content where the "challenge" is taking away my ability to evade damage or what little else the combat has going for it so it's even more boring, or severely nerfing my damage, that's not challenge that's just cock and ball torture.
i hope that si is a nature vanguard who procs corrosion with her combo skill so we can have an all sarkaz team
yeah sarkaz deez nuts lol
>>579255736>posts shit combat as an argument
>>579256014It needs to be objectively shit before THEY can have subjective fun
>>579255736You forgot to include your subway surfers gameplay on the right side of the screen
>>579255773Vanguard with corrosion combo would kill perlica. No!
>>579256508Her reign of terror must come to an end some day
>>579255736But don't you get it? Having your whole team on the field (controlled by mentally retarded AI that stands in fires) with you is pure SOUL Nevermind that characters like Liino are just press E than switch to your main dps because she literally can no longer be controlled once in her singing state (which is all she does), while supports in other games actually have field time and have complex, fun kits. FUCK THAT, we prefer to have most of the characters we spend money to pull for be entirely AI-controlled, we don't want to have to actually PLAY the game after all, indeed Endfield is a game that truly respects your time, you don't have to manage your factory since it manages itself and we don't get any updates for a whole 42 days until the next patch drops where we only need to play it for one day than leave it on auto-management for the next 42 days, because contrary to the meme the factory DOES NOT actually grow and we LIKE this, growing the factroy like an actual factroy game like Factorio would be way too involved, it would mean we'd have to actually actively play the game and we don't want to do that here in Endfield. Even better, there's no gear stat RNG meaning your gear stats are set in stone so you simply build your characters in one day and then you're done, there's no such thing as having to actively keep building your characters because the stats can always be higher, we wouldn't want that anyway, we wouldn't want to have another reason to login and grind everyday having a perpetual sense of progression like any other gacha or hell any other RPG, we like being able to have everything one an done with no way to even potentially get stronger, so we have one less reason to play the game after day 1 of a new patch, more time to jack off to futanari yuri porn.This is Arknights: Endfield, a game that you don't have to ever play because it plays itself.
if not nature vanguard with corrosion then at least heat striker that power creeps laevatain>>579256578it's company policy that she will never be power crept
>>579256014>>posts shit combat as an argumentBut I didn't post a clip of Endfield combat?
>>579255736Well the most offensive part about CC is that it encourages you to NOT play your main DPS character which is where all the fun is and is intentionally designed that way. I hope CC 2 doesn't force you to do that higher risk levels.
gay retard company won't let me roll typhoeus yet
>>579256778I genuinely do not understand how this is supposed to be better than WuWa combat, same visual effect vomit except it's even more dumbed down because you only control one character and the kits half a fraction of the depth of a typical WuWa character. If I didn't like WuWa's gameplay the last game I would want to play is an objective downgrade (in terms of combat) like Endfield, I'd go play an actual action game or something.
>>579257036then why the fuck are you here if you dont play the game.
>>579257024They blueball us on purpose so we cum harder.
>>579256625my issue with bots is that you can only do so much to tard wrangle them and enemies will often ungroup to have a duel with one. it's usually just a minor inconvenience but i could feel my blood pressure rising with the rams in cc
>>579256778I can actually see characters and enemy here
>>579256778>>579257036We've already collectively agreed Endfield is merely the Silver Palace waiting room.
>>579256905CC in general with the anti dodge risk discourages you to engage in combat at all. I dunno how anyone can defend running around vs making use of the iframe dodges while being in melee range
>>579257210they gotta add NPC commands to make those lil shitters group up at your position
>>579257189i don't believe in "delayed gratification" or other such woke nonsensegive it to me NOW
>>579257167ITT: Botnet replying to botnets
>>579257309you wouldn't a loliphon
>>579257418whether i would or wouldn't is irrelevant because i CAN'T
>>579257250because in a game with infinite iframe dodges and really generous ones at that which generates you sp you simply cant have challenging content or make the player engage with the mechanics.
>>579257036it's okay to be wrong, it's not okay to be retarded. you should have been euthanized at birth.
>>579256625> Even better, there's no gear stat RNG meaning your gear stats are set in stone so you simply build your characters in one day and then you're doneHow is this a bad thing? are you genuinely retarded?
>>579257486
>>579257531wasn't there also a risk that heavily reduced stamina? that should be enough to add challenge by limiting spam-dodging without having to nix a whole game mechanic
>>579257167They're upset that despite promises of EoS, Endfield continues to persist and is doing well, in spite of not being exactly like their other game. Half the time their criticisms boil down to "why is [x] thing not exactly like my other game?"
>>579257708that still not enough, reducing stamina regen just stops dodge spam. perfect dodge still negate every and all kind of mechanics. Iframe dodges are such a shit game mechanic.
>>579257531The game's balanced around doing final hits and iframe dodges for SP. Everything is gatekept by SP. Without doing the former you can't do anything in the gameIt's not even the argument about infinite dodges being cheesy-no skill. They can always increase the stamina cost on dodge risks to prevent that while keeping the core balance of the final hit/dodge for SP intact
Retards complaining about dodge risk in CC don't even play the game, as they don't know that:1) The risk is optional2) There are a lot of other ways to get i-frames/mitigate damage3) In the future when we get more defenders with true parry (Ember needs to get a rework so she has one), parrying might be more beneficial than dodging
>I want challenge and skill expression>just without the challenge bitDo wuwa players really? The combat showcases that get posted all the time are just people completely styling on enemies while blinding themselves with excessive effects and motion animations. Maybe I'm just getting old, but I see neither the "challenge" nor "skill expression" in them they're supposed to be an argument for?
>>579257949>The game's balanced around doing final hits and iframe dodges for SPno the fuck it isnt you fucking moron.>Without doing the former you can't do anything in the gamethere is a whole class centered around SP regen called vanguards, The main emphasis is on team composition and chain reactions and how operators interact with eachother. This focus isnt action combat slop. Thats why CC leaned more into solutions centered around unique compositions and character interactions with mechanics then mechanical execution(tho it still plays a major part).
>>579258236Wyell, you see, they're pressing buttons in a correct sequence against stationary enemies without mechanics and that's the REAL display of skill
>24 filters in the last 30 minutesWhat the fuck happened here
>>579258539p**wa raid once again.
here i go crawling back to my nte sloppa until sexy purple spurdo graces us with her presence....
99% of Endfield's gameplay is balanced around the lowest common denominator genshintard with cerebral palsy that uses a team of 3 random 6* characters he likes visually (he won't add 4* and 5* characters because he thinks they're not real characters) with random purple gear and random underleveled weapons without leveled essences.
>>579258151>2) There are a lot of other ways to get i-frames/mitigate damagePeople complaining about the no-dodge risk are just the dunning-kruger """""skilled""""" players who couldn't hack it without their easy i-frame dodging. The jump-attack tech wasn't even a well kept secret or anything. And not having perfect-dodging meant having consider positioning/distancing much more, along with animation cancelling by jumping to ensure you didn't get stuck in a place position. Both of which I would say were good differentiators for skilled play for getting into the higher risk rating brackets. You had to unlearn old auto-pilot habits when you lost the i-frame dodge and learn/practice a different approach instead.
If Laevaetain isn't a brick show me a P0 run with less time than Arcane's.
>>579187285>Uses black flames>has black flame motifs on her dettached sleeves
>>579258852She's able to clear ALL high-end content without any troubles. What's the point of comparing times?
>>579258852>thinly veiled spreadsheet/chartfaggotryHmmm....nyo
>>579257560>How is this a bad thing? are you genuinely retarded?>Don't get to have the fun in the RNG of the stats and how high they may be because it's all set-in-stone, all the stats are already determined and you are able to simply max each stat out by expending a very cheap resource, no fun builds like getting lucky and having 100% crit rate (crit is not even a stat you can get in this game for some unknown reason except for specific characters and even then it's capped very low>You're characters power is capped from the get go, you can't keep rolling better gear to potentially make them even stronger, can't try to get better stat rolls to clear content faster, or survive better, etc.>No sense of accomplishment and feeling like you're character is special because you managed to luckshit a perfect build>This means the devs have limited your character's potential strength and you have no way of making them stronger once you finish gearing them (which takes very little time due to the lack of RNG element)>Dupes in this game are also worthless>This all means devs can easily powercreep your characters and you can do nothing about it, not by getting better gear nor by getting dupes, you're going to be forced to keep pulling new units as the game goes onThe only argument in favor of Endfield's gearing system is hating the RNG gods didn't favor you and or hating having another reason to log in because you want as little reasons to play the game as possible.
Show me your Arcane team CC clears
>>579258260Of course it fucking is balanced around them anon?? >But vanguards give SPFor causing reactions yes. To cause reactions you need to spend SP on skills, or combos. And combos if they're not tied to skills are tied to final hits instead. It all comes back to doing final hits to generate SP otherwise it's just an afk simulator waiting for your SP passively. As basics hits do minimal damage unless you're built for it like yvonne. If you're going to bar iframe dodges and consequently final hits then they have to add a new SP income. Like the bananas in the recent echoes, that was fine. Running around in CC doing nothing was not fun.
>>579258792>People complaining about the no-dodge risk are just the dunning-kruger """""skilled""""" players who couldn't hack it without their easy i-frame dodging. actually yes the no dodge risk was my personal biggest skill issue in getting my high risk clear. It actually forced you to study and understand enemy movesets, behavior and timings. >>579258852your r50+ clear with lava? endkek or are you a casual who cant even touch r45 and thinks eow is endgame.
>did every mission in the BP just for those extra 20 rocksI'm fucking readyunleash the oppai loli
>>579258959I see so you are retarded what a waste of time
>>579258936But do YOU still use her? Because I don't. Arcane and ZF are so much more QoL to do all the other stuff that I don't even bother with her anymore. She's literally a brick in that regard and Endfield is having a serious issue of QoL powercreep down the line.
>>579258959I'm so sorry. I hope you get well soon
>>579259180did any anon made a bookkeeping for the average extra stones in BP+Paid Tier?
>>579259204No, I've never used her. I'm playing Avywenna team since launch
No matter how much you try to shit on Endfield, it won't make your shit game better. Silver Palace will STILL fuck you in the ass. Just finished the new Endstate matrix stage playing multiple teams. As I was playing with Verina/Zhezhi/Carlotta team, I felt so fucking bored. I will NEVER understand how can pressing the exact same numbers in the exam same order every single time be fun. You do you though. Btw you don't want to provide CC clear (becuase you don't actually play the game), but I am more than happy to provide proof of me playing wuwa.
>>579259783Meant to say shorekeeper but whaveter.
>>579259204Bwo, it's Endfield. You just use whoever you like. If Laevatain fans like Laevatain, they can and will simply continue to use Laevatain as long as they find her fun. We still have a very dedicated Laevfag >>579167431 in hereYou're chasing your own imaginary power creep bogeyman by pretending operators are magically "bricks" or "unusable".
It is so funny to me that DOOMsissies and Poowa jeets keep coming here, when they get assblasted every single time with proof from people who actually play both games.>>579259157>>579259783
>>579259204This is the arknights franchise, we use who we like and that's all there to it.
>>579259204>structuring your entire game experience around metafaggotry>in a game which makes an active effort to minimise metafaggotry (at least compared to its peers)What a miserable way to live. And all for shaving off a couple seconds from Rhodagn, on top of playing less game.
>>579240170she looks like shit and stinky
>>579257724this image triggered so many browngachatards on the internet (not just this place) it’s not even funny, they genuinely want to eat shit just to defend “their” company’s honor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQkDBvlxGJk
>>579260671where is her character trailerwho asked for a 2 minute montage of the new maps
>>579260795Me
>>579260671could HG revive the mmorpg genre?
why is it always butterflies
>>579260928no. nobody wants to stay in a single world anymorethe days of wow are over
>>579260928>mmorpgHmm...nyo. It's a dead genre for a reason.
>>579260928That would be cool but we'll just be stuck in CCP stormblood for two years before anything else
>>579260928GODLIGHT WILL BUY THE DESTINY FRANCHISE OFF SONY AND MAKE HIS DREAM GAME (destiny 3) REAL.
>>579260928These games ARE the new MMOs, unless Guild Wars 3 or Phantasy Star Online 3 does something batshit crazy.
MMOs will never thrive again with social media being a thing. And cooperating/socialising with strangers is a dying/dead skill amongst the youth. We've generally trended towards more reclusive lives. The multiplayer games that have remained widely popular are competitive ones.
>>579259783>Silver Palacebro thinking like everyone /here/ isn't going to try the game out.how tf you think we all ended up at Endfield
>>579261309>PSOdidn't they have New Genesis?
people don't realize that roblox is by all definitions an mmo and it's just as popular as ever, for a younger audience.
>>579261449I'm not. Doesn't look interesting to me in the slightest. Juggling multiple 3D gacha games sounds like a horrible way to live to begin with. I don't know how/why people even do it
>>579260928>updates>weekly resets>major patches expanding the worldGacha took everything people liked about MMOs and got rid of the tard wrangling group content people hatedAnd instead of one expansion every 2 years, we get a mini-expansion every 6 weeks.
>>579261397at the same time, friendslop is widely popular these days, so if a MMOs could incorporate things that work well for a small group of friends I could see it being popular
>>579261449I'm not touching that UE5 slop
>>579261580>Juggling multiple 3D gacha games sounds like a horribleI'm always shocked that people actually do dalies and endgame activities in these games.Endfield probably had the most elaborate endgame with CC and that's about it.
>>579261449im a bit jaded to try more gacha.Also, endfield using unity has the same model quality as silver palace while being way more optimized because no UE5.
>>579261449>how tf you think we all ended up at EndfieldI played Arknights and am a fan of HG? Never played nor have I been interested in any 3D gacha prior to Endfield.
>>579261449first off>bro thinkingzoomer niggersecondly >how tf you think we all ended up at Endfieldmost of us were fans of OGAK you 3D gacha slop tourists dont own this thread.
>>579261449I won't play it lol. In fact, I try very few gacha in general, and I jumped into Endfield because when I played Arknights years ago, I was always thinking "damn this setting is cool, but the cheap chibishit ruins it". So, I got my wish granted.
Does anyone think Endfield will do crazy fanservice stuff and go back to Terra somehow?
I heard silver palace is going to be more yuri focused or yuribait heavy. I rather not go there.
>>579262128maybe 5 years in
>>579262128once the stargates are reestablished thats our endgame
>>579261905>>579261925>>579261945Genuinely interesting considering how Endfield's combat and exploration was reworked to fit the established expectations that Genshin and Wuthering set up.
>>579262128i can only think we go back to terra when ogAK finishes its story and the gates are restored.Iirc ogAK story was supposed to be a 10 years project and we are halfway done
>>579261309Pretty much. If you aren't underaged, you would remember that we had a long phase of F2P MMOs (a huge chunk of them coming from Korea) back in the 2000s/2010s, each trying to make big money off microtransactions. Much like gacha games are now the analogous big size "F2P" games, and coming out by the dozens all the time because publishers/devs are trying to get their slice of the gacha revenue pie.
>>579261449Arknights have always intrigued me with their character designs, so when a 3D game was announced, I'm in
>>579262195Truuuuuu they're gonna make the gate and go back there
>>579261449The only thing I'm even gonna bother trying out at all is Ananta, none of the other upcoming slop looks like anything.
>>579260928>>579260671This aesthetic is wasted on wuling slop
>>579262367Black desert and MxM were really good projects that got assfucked by stupid decisions.I want HG to make a black desert tier character creator with these textures
>>579262274I played Genshin at launch, had a good 2 years of fun with it. It was decent for its time, we have better things now.
>>579262274so? Both genshit and poothering shaves aren't named Arknights, so they're worse and I don't give half an ass about them
>>579262274>Genuinely interestingIt really isn't. The genshitter generation always think everything revolves around them or is an offshoot of them, which the wuwa weirdoes have also inherited, poetically enough.
I’m looking forward to our first true side story bwosI hope we get snowpriestess content in the future
>>579262716>Ha? You gonna bed with that mad woman?! Thinking you can lovey dovey and make a senpai to her too ha!?
>>579248475i dunno but I wanna hang with the truckers and deliver shit
>>579262792I hope they continue this format of odd patches having a event and sidestory with a welfare like they did with ogak.
>>579262817akababa has a weak side
>>579262817It is my duty to breed all the pink women, like the good doctor before me
>>579262721Then you have to explain what the beta test changes were about
>>579262792>I’m looking forward to our first true side story bwosYour holiday with chen in the swordvalley?
>>579262976filler story, not the same as side story
>>579262640I got bored of Genshin within 4 days of launch and quit. Never tried another 3D gacha since then until Endfield. It just came off as so empty and chore-ish in comparison to the game it was trying to ape to begin with (BotW)
Miffer paizuri.
Whoever said you can vpn to topup you lied to me. It just auto adjusts instead of having a lower price point
What Endfield really needs is a mode that forces us to use multiple teams without overlapping operators - at least three, preferably four. It should be for reasonably difficult content, too, like forcing us to complete a difficult fight in under three minutes.
>>579263129works for me. are you using https://topup.gryphline.com/ ?
>>579263212Let's be real, endgame content and minigames are for losers. Play the patch story every month and move on.
>>579263257Yes it charges 6600jpy
gugu...
I soft dropped it during 1.2 but after coming back now I think I love the game. Looking forward to the future.
>>579263212wish grantedwe are getting a move that forces you to set up a working factory in 3 minutes, where your unique operators are stationed at certain facilities to boost their efficiency. The products will be used to make towers to pad your dps race
>>579263430did you catchup anon?
>>579263019This is a filler story too tho. It's another wuling zone like swordvalley
You guys are a bit lucky to only be interested in Endfield and Arknights.They're very close to being two of the only gacha titles that have well-written stories.I've gone through all the major gacha titles and the majority of the narratives, especially from Chinese studios, are just awful.Trying to replicate the best of the visual novels on a one patch per month timeline siloed by different devs in the team is crazy.
>>579225328>>579225431Legit makes me want to try Fartnite...
>>579263430I'd call you a nigger but I don't really blame people for feeling that way from 1.2. Let's hope 1.5 wouldn't feel as bad with just typhon
>>579263556
>>579263552Endfield's writing so far has been absolute ass
>>579263552I'm not even particularly crazy about the story, I just love the world building, I think theres a lot of potential for cool stuff
>Ardashir I, also known as Ardashir the Unifier, was the founder of the Sasanian Empire, the last empire of ancient Iran. After defeating Artabanus IV, the last King of Kings of Parthia, on the Hormozdgan plain in 224, he overthrew the Arsacid dynasty and established the Sasanian dynasty.Hmmm.... I don't nyo~ teehee~
>>579263427GAGA!
>>579263212We can't do that. :( It means people can use their favs :(((We have to make all content accessible for anyone! :) Even if it's at the cost of making everything boring vanilla so everyone can do it! :)))
>>579263556BRs are only good when you have some friends. Even for single player. You play with your squad and then run solos when you feel like it. Else you'd have to do shit like, communicate with strangers
>>579263785show me your CC #47+ clear
>>579263685Not really. You think so, but you don't know.Valley IV was ass though.
Fuck, Fissure Filling and Land Grouting NEEDED to be voice acted.It's only like 10 lines or something but it's both closure for Mifu and Arcane's involuntary transfer to Endmin's bedchamber. I really don't get why they didn't include voice lines for it with everything else.
>>579263518Side Stories will eventually connect to another story and then maybe to the main storyFiller stories can be skipped
>>579263852it had its kino
>I like being raped and gaped so others should do that too!do doomjeets really
Mifu is so sexy she needs more art...
>>579263685AK is arguably worse, its competently written but then makes ONE decision that ruins everything and makes it worse, like Talulah possession by Kashchey
Hot sweaty sex with Miffer after a heated sparring sesh
>>579263785Multiple solutions and different viable team compositions =/= any team can do it
>>579263982Sure, we can do sexy.
>>579263867If we're including char stories then wulf would be the first true side story as it's set up for mafia content. Same with camille adding a new antagonist. Other char stories are filler and don't have continuations hinted. Lae is also a special case where hers might be mandatory if they bring her back for future content, otherwise she's essentially dead in lore if you skipped her quest. Those 3 listed make me wonder if they'll become "mandatory" quests to do once their continuations arrive
>>579263785I still don't get how to make a good party for Brutal difficult Echoes of War and what will become CC in the upcoming updates. I liked the dueling arena mode because it had suggested teams you could play.Then it's about my skill in controlling the team, rather than picking the right members at deploy time.
>>579263982>>579264079>>579263102every man is saying this
>>579263785You are a really weird person
>>579264031Main story was always the weakest parts of AK. It's hard carried by the events. Which is probably why Endfield is struggling so hard it had no story events yet.
>>579263852>You think so, but you don't knowwhat kind of response is this, even Arcane's story that people praise so high is your usual tragic background that is extremely common in other gacha
>forgot I hadn't done the Alleikhreos trim>give it a shot>get it first tryI can't wait for gear loadouts. I'm going to make unartificed sets for all my operators as a self-imposed challenge mode when I feel like it.
>>579264187lucky zalak
>>579264220Next patch is the first time we are getting one right?
>>579264197Laeva quest has more Endmin characterization than the entire MSQ until recently
>>579263785This whole gamescon things was so FFXIV coded.
>>579262918That's great and all, but you're already revealing your projection>explorationis notably and explicitly linear in connected boxed maps, in opposition to being a completely free-form go-anywhere open world in your aforementioned examples>combatis purely a supposition on your part that the changes were made to follow in the explicit footsteps of Genshin/Wuwa. In fact, the old tech test combat in some ways is closer to being swap slop than the current system. Having to manually aim skills also didn't add any real tactical element to the combat, all it did was slow it down and continually break pacing. The tech test participation was also *very* limited. Most people who swear to the heavens about it weren't even actual participants, just people who've been watching youtube video footage and parroting content creators in the intermittent years. The general response to it those three years ago was lukewarm at best for good reason, not necessarily because "le Genshin testers gave all the feedback".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw9rYf5YsfUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUpPql49XeU>b-but reactions?Genshin didn't invent "JRPG skills that interact with one another" either. But it IS the de-facto system because for 3D action combat, as it is the easiest limiting factor on the combat system for enabling space for long-term character kit design. This isn't a static 2D game like Arknights where you could simply change the attack range of a character to make a huge difference to their gameplay/application.
>>579264287yes it was a very basic and simple story but its execution was unlike any gacha game ever. The music presentation and dialogue delivery were all on point and hit. She got fucking 5 unique character themes in her quest alone, a unique model and so on.
>>579263982>she needs more art...Morefu
>>579264206Sorry buddy. You have to be able to do both
>>579264551The reactions feel the same too>Praise HG>Praise SEThe amount of people praising them using 3 booths just for the statues is baffling. This is praiseworthy? It feels like a cult following where they scream praise x for everything they do..
>>579264220That is true until chapter 14 and act 3. Every single main story chapter in act3 has been banger after banger after banger. chapter 15 is easily up there with babel and lone trail.
Think I can lure her in with this?
>>579264781hoyo is the cult here, they make absolutely dogshit games and spends money on marketing to keep people engaged and interestedliterally cult behavior. HG at least do cool shit and improves their games
>>579264798too bad Kalslop disney revival already has negative expectations
>>579264590>Having to manually aim skills also didn't add any real tactical element to the combatThey should bring some element of skill aiming back. Arcane was almost like a bandaid to this stuff of not being able to group enemies up or aim attacks.There's still the combat issue of what swapping characters actually does aside from HP management and auto attack pacing.I don't really care about reactions because the concept of stacks is more interesting; it's more about the witch time dodge and non-aiming attacks.
>>579264883idk why people were aping out over kalsits revival when it was literally foreshadowed in the chapter where she got mr manhattened that they will get her back. Ofc the fucking timing and bringing her back after a singular chapter is bullshit. Even then chapter 17 was pretty kino... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaZ2PZEkEmA
>>579264798Eh, maybe. But it took ages to get there. For 90% of the game events were far better. And events are still better main story just got much closer.
>>579264881>and spends money on marketing as opposed to Endfield that totally doesn't spend absolutely ludicrous amount of monies on marketing
>>579264975they should implement an opt-in for manual targeting, like ZZZ did with manual chain
>>579264975>They should bring some element of skill aiming backIt's already there. You line up the shots by actively moving to position for stuff like Arcane's ult or Mi Fu's 3rd stage battle skill, and without having to constantly pause the game to do it.
>>579265134They also spend money on passion projects fan content and funding other indie devs.
>>579264840yeah
>>579264590>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw9rYf5YsfU>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUpPql49XeUWatching these again, I still think still aiming is a big loss.I don't think it needs to be a drastic change either, just do something like a double tap of a character skill slows down time and lets you aim. That way at least party positioning comes into play somewhat as you could aim a line AoE attack from an ally 20m away to your direction, then we don't need to introduce obnoxious character swap-in attacks.
I really wish we got an optional hard mode for main quests. The new areas look amazing but at the same time I know its just gonna be a theme park with how braindead everything in the story is
>>579265249Oh no Mi Fu don't press me down and rape me haha I'm so scared oh no don't do it haha
>>579265104tell me 1 event since babel that had a better story then chapter 15.
>>579264761I'm glad this is their design philosophy, building up team synchronizations beforehand.
>>579264881At least in the genshin scene I don't see much praise hoyo anymore. They're kinda done with their shitty treatment. It's all skip button when, artifact presets when now instead of "praise hoyoverse". Can't say about the other 2 I don't play that >HG at least do cool shit and improves their gamesNot saying they don't of course. I'm just saying that people making such a big deal about the statues is honestly cult behavior. They should not be drawing that much of a response it's creepy. People didn't spam praise hoyo when they flew that giant paimon balloon through multiple cities
>>579265134>But Endfield!the game is good, getting better every patch, and gets money reinvested into it. Heck, it probably siphons money from the other projects. I still don't believe HG pays even half as much as Hoyo for marketing in general, unless le google ad stats accounted for stuff like real world events and other non-ad stuff that hoyo seem to do all the fucking time.
>>579264881>they make absolutely dogshit gamesPure cope from asshurt faggot who never played them maybe beyond early Genshin. I play all major gachas. AK has the best story (OG sure as fuck not Endfield) but Hoyo is not far behind. Current ZZZ is great. Current HSR is very good. Genshin was shit for a while but Nod-Krai was amazing and new arc started great. At this point it's Hoyo haters who are the cultists. Legions of sheep hating them just because they are #1.
>>579264798I wanted to chime in as a tourist and say I really enjoyed chapter 1 of OG. That's all I played of it before Endfield, so meeting the landbreakers felt like a slap in the ovaries.
>>579265324
>>579265502someone post the genshin webm again... hoyocuck needs to be assraped..
>>579265502>Current HSR is very goodyou cannot play the game and genuinely believe this
>>579265319i ask for this in every survey they put out
>>579265502>Current HSR is very goodi have been playing it since release bro, no need to lie
>>579265343Yakuza event was absolute kino. Last Kjerag event was very good too.
>>579265502>AK has the best story but Hoyo is not far behind>Current HSR is very goodlollmao
>>579265594this is what their npc models look like btw... 30+ mil revenue a month btw
>>579265594Today, I will remind them. I used to wonder why HSR consistently made THAT much more money compared to even hoyo's other games, then it all made sense. It's literally the cost of participation
>>579265223I need it as an optional combat thing. As it stands, fighting multiple enemies feels weird because of the vulnerability stack system coupled with Ocarina of Time's lock on.To be able to manage what are essentially debuff counters, you need to bring back in the combat element of MMOs as an optional input to either manually or auto aim certain skills.For example if Endmin's in the party and an enemy I'm not in range of or locked on to has a vuln stacked upa bit further away, I want to be able to dictate that and aim towards that.
>>579265763I don't even care about the npc models, little content and presentation and always just treated it like a 3d VN, but it cannot even do that correctly at the moment because planarcadia is a giant nothingburger and moves no oneyou cannot even enjoy the endgame modes because they just increase hp by 50% every 3 patches or so
>>579265592>>579265594>>579265714>>579265758Can't wait for the tears when they get top3 spots again this month. Currency Wars alone rape everything in Endfield.
>>579265798dont forget anon. essence tickets to guarantee 1 sub stat on a relic being sold for 20 bucks a pop. Shit we get hundreds of per week for free which they get jewed out of.
>brings up jeetchart immediatelythe raped
>>579265980brother I do not care about the revenue I care about the gamesince when is more money = better game
>>579265502>I played le gameslike I haven't played them too fucktard. I played them all too >genshin from 2.0 until mavuika. It was 100% dogshit the entire time and I only kept up with it until there were stuff to jump ship to. Could be good now, but too little too late. I should have dipped during fontaine but I wanted to get the himeko clone at least, as a hagCHAD.>HSRhasn't been good in a looooooong time. I liked it as first as a turn based player, but these days you can enjoy your card swiping "gameplay" and 5 hours of technobabble talking heads. Kept leaning into the cashcow meme and getting worse. Quit some time during late Amphoreous with the cat girl after playing from launch.>ZZZI really, REALLY wanted to like this one. It had style but it kept getting worse after every single patch. Literally the einverse experience of me playing Endfield. You want to talk about genshittification of gameplay and lost of soul? This is the one you want to bring up. I had enough with it during middle 2.x after also playing from launch and quit shortly before shungus to jump ship to Endfield, and that remains one of my best gacha decisions ever.
>>579265798>E1 alone is stronger than Endfield's strongest P5FUARK!!!
>>579265987Nobody actually buys those.
>>579266098nobody in the west does yes but cn whales buy hundreds of these. That is probably their biggest source of revenue.
>>579265987nobody buys these and everyone has like 60 of them, I didn't even know that you can buy these>>579266147what is this delusion called
>>579266095>haha our game has worse powercreep than yoursTHE RAPED
>>579266091TV mode was utter garbage any anyone claiming ZZZ lost soul because they axed it instantly proves himself as a total moron. Muh le bad china region was great too for Spook Shack alone. Wuling dreams about being as fun.
>>579264840you're playing with fire anon. She's gonna go into a frenzy and crush something more sensitive than an aluminum can...
>>579266147>yes but cn whalesUh huh. *writes down notes*Are these "whales" in the room with us right now?
>>579265798That image should use a year1 HSR, it's distorted to make EF look far better. Year1 it's genuinely comparable to ours. Granted HSR powercreep got retarded after but we really can't say ours wont either just yet
hoyo cucks getting assblasted again... Why do they always come back to get raped? Did the internet collectively shitting on them mindbreak them alll that bad?
>>579266318you don't even know of the video game genre called DRPGs. TV mode was bad because hoyo and ZZZ were incompetent hacks that couldn't make a niche genre work unlike HG with Endfield, because all they do is low iq casual dogshit to chase shareholder values. Not to mention TV mode being basically tied to a core part of the worldbuilding and story means that they completely neutered any narrative consistency due to having to rewrite everything in to aura farming and hype. Spook Shack was ok, but 1 good doesn't cover for 3 bads. Oh, and Lucia's ass and ear nerfs were unforgiveable.
>>579266458you anon are a disingenuous faggot.another year 1 character btw.
>>579266318>that ass story with the cultists in 2.x>can't even set up the plot twist properlyI played it last week and uninstalled the game because Mihoyo still can't write.
>>579266147>>579266193I never bought them and have like 80 of them. Every retard on the internet cries about horrible HP bloat in HSR when I just finished all endgame stages current patch max stars first try on auto. And I never gave them more than 5$ a month. Most of my characters don't even have their weapons. Hoyo haters are complete sheep parroting shit they see from Jeets on X. >REEEEE Hoyo shill REEEE!!!!I play og Arknights since EN came out and don't think I lost a single day in those 6 years.
>>579266458right. comparable.
>>579266458>Argentishow some REAL damage dealers.
>>579266458>ours>wesure buddy
>>579266731>autowhy do you even "play" this game again.
>>579266574Ah yes the 10x more popular games are the ones getting raped.
>>579266731right
>>579266837Popularity = good! You should go to India to live their too, they have a big population so that means the country is good. Getting raped is a plus to you after all...
>>579266731>I play og Arknights since EN came out and don't think I lost a single day in those 6 yearsWhy are people still lying on the internet
>>579265398>I don't see much praise Hoyo anymoreI don't know what places you're visiting but people have been endlessly sucking off Nod Krai and the start of the not Russia, the thing with Genshin is that even when most of the AQ sucks the main meat of the game are world quests, exploration and extreme autismo lore, something what Endfield doesn't have and desperately needs
>>579266830Story and characters like every other gacha? Don't pretend any of them have good gameplay. Anything with p2w mechanics will never be good.
>>579265398>I don't see much praise hoyo anymore
>>579263797cute
>>579266951huh didnt know you could p2w in arknights? do you have a access to some secret ascension system there which lets you get a stronger character then what everyone else has?
>>579266458lmao raped once again.>>579266718>>579266736350% dmg from potentials in your 2nd patch of the game is fucking crazy. The game was raped from the start huh.
>if I attach an AK image with my dogshit opinion maybe they will take me seriously
>>579267184the blade anon is even more dishonest than the argenti anon but I am on his side so its okay and desired
>>579266725not him but China arc is the lowest point of the game, the game picks up again after that, also it's funny how the cultist faction has been completely written off the game
and thus peace returns after they are raped and gaped once again
>>579263785CC seems to contradict this. Timer means there is a stat check, 100%. Character gates and solutions really encourage estella (everyone has her but it's still limiting) and heat damage.
>>579266951>p2w>in EndfieldLol. Lmao even. You can solo all bosses with catcher and you can trim them with the main trio + akekuri.
>CC is just stat check!>also the best characters for it were free low rarity charactershmm
as long as I get all the rewards without forcing me to use something specific, I don't careI didn't need estella or heat damage to get my gibs, in other games I get locked out of rewards if I don't have the latest shilled character
>>579267751Doomshitters are not sending their best lol
>>579267751That also contradicts their goal of having everyone viable if you're supposed to use their CCP mandated low rarity characters
>>579267560The point is where the dps is coming from. You shave of a lot of time if you were good, because f2p characters being on top means that it's not p2w, and attempting to purely statcheck it will be met with rough resistance. The difference between f2p clears and uber whale clears are as small as <5 risks out of like 50+. At the 40-45 range the combinations are endless, and technically anything past 35 bring literally nothing new but your own enjoyment. You're also done with the event by risk 20
>>579267916Ah yes because them being the best fit means you literally can't do it with anyone else.God you're so fucking retarded it's insane.
>>579267560>>579267916Just because they're the overarching objectives doesn't mean they were 150% successful. I think they largely were, though, especially for being the very first test season. Estella was a crutch if you didn't want to have to worry about the solidification risks, but the higher you went with risk ratings, the more you'd have to consider benching her in favour of someone else who could contribute damage if you wanted to get over the line. There's no mention of what achievement level these dot points for calibrated too, either. The world absolutely was your oyster from R1-R40 or so. And even when it further narrowed when going upwards from there, there were still a handful of viable teams as opposed to only one universal set up.
>>579267972Explain
>>579267916No, you're not forced to use them, there were all sorts of team comps and the CC website anon made absolutely proves this.
>>579267560>>579267916ok lets see how many unique comps were used just for high risk CC from /END/
>>579268019>Estella was a crutch if you didn't want to have to worry about the solidification risks, but the higher you went with risk ratings, the more you'd have to consider benching her in favour of someone else who could contribute damage if you wanted to get over the lineThis specific panel *is* talking about higher difficulty/risks
>>579268123>chendmin at 45 riskChenGODS I kneel
>>579268123NUKED that freak
>>579268060At this point I'm not sure if you're just pretending not to understand or are genuinely too retarded to understand.
>>579268123The only real impressive one here is Endmin Chen and I respect that
>>579268175CC as a whole was labelled a "high difficulty event" by the game itself as a title, without being indicative of what risk level you stopped at.
>>579267832I agree the free gibs should be possible with anyone. but having the max risks be capable by anyone kinda defeats the purpose of it being an exclusive thing if everyone can just do itthat also makes me worry about the income issue. if you can clear stuff with the same team always why even roll for combat anymore? pots for ops/weps aren't that big an increase so it's not even worth whaling rolls there, besides the content was beatable without pots even. so genuinely how are they going to get people to roll going forward. there's no point rolling for upcoming supports or dps because you can use the same team as before. the only point to rolling is if you like the op now and nothing more
>>579268123>every member of squad Z7 is here except for Catcherrip
>>579268203No he didn't yet>>579268204I need you to explain
>>579268123>CC seems to contrad-ACK
>>579268341>cc2 is yellow>horsekek is yellow>horsekek might be physical>????his time will come.
>>579268280every high risk clear is valid if you brought your favorite ins and got a clear you were proud of. That single screenshot stands as a testament to the games design philosophy and how even at high difficulty content anything can work if you are good enough at the game. If this were a stat check gamemode everyone would be forced to bring in a fangyi team to break past risk 45.
>>579266934Imagine being such a casual you think this is crazy.
people won't like this but game where everyone is viable while trying to maintain semi balance of difficulty is not possible, in the end Endfield is still RPG and especially gacha, bigger number always triumph above all, Genshin had the same mentality for 4 years until they said fuck it and gave tryhards and metachurls SO
>>579268335>the only point to rolling is if you like the op now and nothing moreSo... like every other collector hobby? Don't tell me you only roll for meta
>>579268341https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IJU5ZZhuRAgotchu bro
>>579268280>>579268361The Raped.
>>579268449>Genshin had the same mentality for 4 years untilso its possible?
>>579268449power ceiling increasing is inevitablebut what will decide if a game is shit or not is if they powercreep the floor to "clear". At this point it doesn't seem like it.
>>579268567
ok every single retard saying endgame where everyone is viable can not be hard. Lets see your fucking high risk clears you morons. if its so easy even a brainlet like you can get a 48 easily right? Everything but the timer and hp risks. I swear to god if I gave each and everyone of you any of the teams from >>579268123 and told you to pilot it through that difficulty all of you would shit yourselves.
>>579268438Funnily enough, Fangyi teams were the ones being stat gimped with the -90% damage reduction risk. You had to apply some really finicky techs to get yourself over the line during ult phases. Failing the tech check would just immediately brick your runs
guys give me a non-gacha game that will give me 40 days of gameplay while we struggle through the filler patch. Going on paid vacation soon and I don't want to be bored 24/7
>>579268625omg hiiiii*rapes you*
Did they ever talk about the future of the AIC during gamescom or only combat slop stuff? All I see are these difficulty presentations and boss fight philosophies character design shit
>>579268785They did its in one of the slides, let me see if I can find
>>579268785https://x.com/SmugSlav0/status/2093291819077402752?s=20?
>>579263552>They're very close to being two of the only gacha titles that have well-written stories.That would be og ak and limbus, endfields story is dogshit
>>579268705what kind games do you like anon?if you enjoy crpgs pathfinder wotr is a easy 200+ hr sink or Dos2. SMT VV is a great jrpg with a very heavy combat focus if you are into that kind of thing. Ninja gaiden 4 came out recently and it was pretty fun. I am personally looking forward to control 2 and traveling at night from weatherfactory games.
>yaranaika radishlol'd
>>579268449??? They're not trying to calibrate balance at the top end. They're trying to maintain balance at the viable-to-clear line. Do people really have such a hard time getting this through their thick skulls? It just means metafaggotry is optional, rather than the mandatory entry ticket to even play the game. That's the difference
>>579268785> They want to explore more sandbox style buildings in the open world that players can put down and interact because they are heavily inspired by factorio/satisfactory/Valheim/V-Rising etc
No Patrick, misery porn and endless suffering don't equal good story
>>579268579no it isn't, in the end you have 2 options, make everything piss easy so everyone can clear or give tryhards an actual hard stages where you're forced run meta teams, mind you, in ZZZ you could clear Shiyu with solo Billy until like, what, 1.5? well, let's see what Endfield devs will cook up in in 3.x
>>579268123Representing the Leekers!
>>579269003Valheimlike in the sami wilderness...
>>579268460A large portion of players in gacha do in fact roll for metaWe can get most ops+wep f2p with little effort. Pots don't matter. Content can be cleared with anything. Where are they getting the income from if people aren't continuously chasing meta? It's not like they're releasing skins to cover that like other collector gachas such as azur laneCC in arknights was a big deal, some world first chinks trying for max risk literally have teams trying to beat it with a shared account with max pot ops. Meanwhile here lil jimmy can still clear max risk with his f2p cryo team he got 8 months ago
>>579268680really? she seemed like the most comfy clear to me past risk 40 since it was just ult spam buttons and reactions. Estella was easy but it was annoying to pilot.
>>579269050and nobody will care about giving tryhards hard content as long as its optionalwhat do you not understand?
Just say you're a 3d gacha tourist that never played og Arknights instead of being retarded anon
>>579263785The irony of saying this but every top team in their speedrun challenge was a leek team lmaoooooooo
>>579269074>Where are they getting the income fromidk, but they seem to be making enough and is content with how it's going to me. It's not my business to worry about that.
>>579269003How is this different from what the AIC is currently now?
>>579269003ake is such an afterthought.
>>579268896I think I completely burned myself out on turn-based RPGs, I used to love them but if theres not an element of action like E33 I just can't anymoreThe last 2 games I really enjoyed from start to finish were KCD2 and Stellar Blade. Thinking of getting The Blood of Dawnwalker maybe, looks promising but its difficult to deliver with vampire stuff
>>579269247?????????
>ChatGPT please help me misintepret the dev talk points as much as possible
>>579269281def try out ninja gaiden 4 then if you like action games.
I am a 3d gacha tourist that never played og arknights endfield is my first gacha experience
>>579269125I mean, Genshin already cracked this formula years ago and yet people here are praising the dev talk like something revolutionary, ohhh everyone will be viable, so insightful, so smart *claps*
>>579269120>she seemed like the most comfy clear to me past risk 40 since it was just ult spam buttons and reactionsThe aforementioned problem doesn't really kick in until the upper-top end, (doubly so if/when you started taking the health buff risks). If you failed to time or accommodate the -90% damage debuff due to her ult battle skill applying electric infliction, you immediately lost 10 seconds off your run and her ult being useful, which would brick your runs for the wave 2/3 bosses
>>579269050In CC you could clear it easily and get all the rewards but at the same time if you wanted to push the difficulty higher for fun you could do it. Low skill floor + optional high skill ceiling is the right way to do this and the Endfield devs seem to understand this so I'm hopeful for the future. We'll see how CC2 is.
>>579269120Leek got kneecapped pretty harshly by the risks in general. Her damage suffered but her team was very easy to play, you definitely wanted pots to punch through the upper ends of 50+. For whatever risks that her damage output was acceptable, you should be able to clear it easily so that's why it's comfy
>>579269343SameI usually fucking hate gacha but endfield hits different for some reasonTheres just an element of quality and... anemoia? Is that the word? I just want to live in that world
>>579269363because they stopped cracking the formula and started doing dogshit powercreep instead?
>>579269363genshin didn't really have fun endgame challenges, the most enjoyment of that game comes from exploration and open-world freedom. Many people didn't even bother with abyss
>>579269456true that. The game doesnt feel cheaped out. In every single 3d Gacha I have seen or tried there is a element where it feels costs were cut. ef doesnt have that. Everything they put out is extremely high quality. Like the delver of the crypted stages. They are all very high quality 3D handcrafted environments for a gamemode people will do once and leave yet they didnt cheap out on its visuals and atmosphere.
>>579269382>mfw i struggled to clear risk 20 because I never scrolled the options to the right and was stacking all the risks on the left side of the screenthey have to account for idiots like me, i'm glad the floor is low.
>spiral abyss specifically tailored to sell the shit on rate up>can't get all stars mean can't get the maximum amount of pull currency>"Genshin already cracked this formula years ago"rumao
>>579269658Looks like a decent cope
>>579269469I'm not sure if you're deliberately obtuse here or not, people are making still Diluc clears which is a standard character
>>579269798and people are still clearing HSR with seele, are you seriously suggesting that there isn't any dogshit powercreep there?
>>579269658>When the wielder applies an Arts BurstEither something in Typhon's kit counts as Arts Bursts for some reason (like Mi Fu's final battle skill counts as Crush), or one of her passives lets her apply inflictions in some way
>Diluc_gaming in the big '26
>>579269189I'm just wondering how it'll be in future. Eventually they'll drop down to 1 op a patch as the norm instead of 2. The quality design here is far more detailed than the competition's, they can't keep pumping out ops so quick or at least not to the quality we know. If it's like other gachas too sometimes there's rerun patches with 0 new chars. We can already get most ops currently but what happens then when it's 1 per patch or even 0. A lot tend to skip males too so once a female does return people have the funds to f2p grab them. With dupes being bad to chase for, weapons being free, content being f2p for any team and no other revenue generators like skins or PvP how are they gonna keep it going. I understand they want the game to be f2p and they do a good job with that but imo the high difficulty stuff shouldn't be so easily accessible like that, there's nothing to chase for with your rolls as you can already do everything.
Leekwife very very very big love
>>579269875Many strikers can inflict their own consumed resource, but usually they need help setting it up first. We'll see
>>579269875100% she can cause nature infliction with one of her passives, her kit is tailored around consuming a lot of inflictions
>>579269964so you are a 3D gacha tourist who hasnt played ogak.
>>579269850are we going to pretend that HSR isn't wheelchair game where supports do more work than DPS
>>579269189The reality is they're probably not making enough and just keeping up pretenses because what else would they do? It'll become your business once they're forced to change course, or the game just dies and the rug gets pulled out from under you.
>>579269964>and here we see a wild consumer, so mindbroken by other gacha games that it is thoroughly confused about the lack of nickel-and-diming, as though something is seemingly wrong
>Diluc clears>look inside>latest weapon>latest support>timer carry by the team on the other half
>>579269964I think skins are on the menu, but just not a priority compared to creating new content first. Max risk CC was definitely nearly whale only if you aren't absolutely kitting out your free characters
>>579269875Yeah she doesn't have any nature app. Does her talent hitting nature cause it to burst or something when she consumes them? Weird but that might be the reason why she would want nature >>579270085We would've seen her apply nature but never did. Showcases always have talents enabled, we saw her getting multiple status with unknown sources.
>factory game>99% discussions are about combatHG missed the mark with their target audience
>>579270090yes because some pngs with almost no voice acting is definitely the same effort
>>579270124>"The reality is [doomraped headcanon]"I'll suck your dick when the game dies, call me then. Until that happens don't bother, I'm not receiving business calls.
>>579270180There's nothing analogous to the factory for tourists to compare to in their home other games
>>57926812345 isn't high. Disingenuous argument because risk scores increase non-linearly with difficulty. Going from 45 to 50 is ten times harder than going from 40 to 45 due to how punishing the last few risks you're forced to take are.
>>579270017
>>579270124>expand workforce>expand workspace to accomodate workforce>invest in new projects>support indie gamesseems a bit too far for "pretense" no?
>>579270180>the original Arknights audience is 50/50 male female split>let's filter women with factory and ML writing an excellent decision Mr Lowlight
>>579270124Don't forget you have an appointment with the noose comes the end of 2026.
>>579270318the game acknowledges anything past 35 is the top end of the difficulty. Harder than hard is still hard and more respectable, but that doesn't make hard not hard and less respectableand post your clear
>>579270176>>579270085>>579269875I checked her showcase footage and she doesnt do nature infliction but she consumes alot of it. If you didnt roll arcane she might be brick.
>>579269964>there's nothing to chase for with your rolls as you can already do everything.Correct, that's a big reason why I like Endfield, you're not forced to roll for specific operators just to clear all content. It's comfy. Yes there are less incentives to whale, so the game does make less money than the competition, but honestly I don't care because I like that the game respects my time and isn't predatory. I've never liked gacha systems and lootboxes in general so the game isn't "perfect" in my eyes but it's still pretty damn good for a genre that I usually dislike.
>>579270124This. ake is pretty much like zzz in which o.g AK will have to keep picking up the tabs.
>>579270278Where's all the satisfactory and factorio gamers raiding us to shit on our baby game? It's all 3d genshin gamers every single day of the week it's getting old.
>>579270548And yet despite that zzz is still the best game out of the shit hoyo released. Meaning it's a good thing
>>579270124>The reality is they're probably not making enough and just keeping up pretenses[citation required]I've been told by experts in your field that Endfield has been bound for immediate EoS since launch, pinky promise within a month of two each time. I have also been promised that the AIC would be getting canned since launch as it puts the mainstream brainlets off. I have also been told that a ZZZ style relaunch has been coming since launch.None of which has come to fruition, or even hinted at for that matter.
>>579270090AK has revenue through skins and can pump out over 3 times as many ops as we do, like the other anon said, it's far lower a budget to make content for compare to the crazy detail 3D in endfield. The CCs there are a horizontal mode mostly, do you have the ops that fit the CC. Our CC is f2p without vertical investment and f2p without horizontal investment as anyone can clear. There's no reason to roll for endgame content here. The roguelike isn't out of course to judge that yet, but I question how much a horizontal roster you need built for that, if they're going to follow the same philosophy as the gamecom devnote apparently it's not going to matter you can rock the same 4 ops
>>579270632They did that when we got laughed out of /egg/. The only ones mentally ill enough to raid other generals are gachajeets
>>579269074>here lil jimmy can still clear max risk with his f2p cryo team he got 8 months agothe fuck are you smoking, tourist?
>>579270632because those people dont feel threatened by our existence. And they are playing real games not gacha slop. Gachajeets have small egos and sunk cost fallacy which forces them to sperg out if it is questioned that all their time spent was not on the best thing possible.
>>579270458Shrug, I don't agree but I do think it's smart that they set it up like that. It baits more casual CC clearers into thinking they did something awesome getting to 40+, when in reality that's the beginning of when the mode starts to get difficult. Only really serious players will understand like 80% of the total difficulty of CC is squeezed into the last 2 or 3 risk levels.
>>579270548It's kind of sad that the more predatory games are the ones who make the most money but hey if it gets us cool pet projects like Endfield I'm fine with it. I'm not too worried about financial stuff, Lowlight and his merry band of autists are veterans and they seem to know what they're doing.
>>579270380ML shit did the most damage
Lowlight made a mistake turning Endfield into gacha, he should make an MMO or something like that
>>579271029the cost to develop and run a mmo is astronomical and the infrastructure is incomprehensibly complex, This shit costs way too much money, takes too long to develop and is a headache to maintain.
>>579270885Read the gamecom info before you start calling people tourists, you're the one not keeping up to date
>>579271115anon, I don't know how should I tell you this but making gacha is even more expensive and difficult
>>579270350This shit is really hilarious since people unironically believe that unless you make Genshin money game is a flop. Gachas below top50 still make good money. 99% if game devs dream about a success on the level of Endfield or ZZZ. And then a pack of rabid saars tries to convince people that making millions every month is actually flopping.
>>579271029>mistakeYou're retarded or underageMMO is a massive risk project, even more these daysThe cost of the servers alone are ridiculousWith gacha you can get the benefits of being a MMO-lite, not having insane costs and much a higher profit
>>579271213ok you're absolutely fucking insane or a kid, carry on
>>579271029Nah. Like that other anon said, MMOs are just ridiculously expensive to maintain and it's the main reason why the genre died. Also people are less interested in multiplayer these days, everyone just wants to do their own thing (me included).
>>579271213L ragebait
>>579270916that's truebut what good is difficulty by itself? The point of a game is... for your enjoyment. If the people who are content at clearing 35 are just as happy as the people clearing 45 and 50+, there's no reason to fix that. They will either conitinue to enjoy the game, or attempt to BREAK THE LIMIT next time. Helps that it's a perfectly customizable experience too, my best clear on the cc site is a homoless laev team running combust gear on her and akekuri where the latter did most of the damage, and I had more fun and felt more proud of doing that than I would if I pushed a higher risk with wulfgard and estella. I'd say that's worth like 2-4 more risks in my own modifiers
>>579271029Lowlight would fuck up a AK mmo. That shit would get a reboot or shutdown within a year.
>>579270380Game needs actal outpost building mode with a lot of cute extras and furniture. Girls would love that.
>>579270547Yeah it's really nice. It's just a worry because it is in fact a gacha, not just an rpg with DLCs so how are they going to keep it going. HG already tried the rpg+DLC approach with ex stris and that failed miserably. If they kept the high endgame stuff reserved for the whales requiring specific teams that's cool they can do that and keep the rest of the game funded for us, but endgame is apparently being treated as a for everyone mode..
MMO is a dead genre
>>579270690>AK has revenue through skins and can pump out over 3 times as many ops as we doAnd the thing a lot of people miss is that AK *needs* those things to keep up the revenue stream. AK is also fortunate it's cultivated a fanbase who will purchase skins for literal who operators even if they never get used. Unlike EF, you can also very feasibly keep up with the game/operator releases without spending a single dime on rolls. The way AK's limited banner system works effectively discourages you from ever rolling EXCEPT during annis/half annis. Standard 6*s are rarely ever worth rolling for as an unsubstitutable gameplay piece. The result of that is assuming you don't bottom percentile your luck, the F2P orundum income is more than enough to keep up with rolling for operators. And potting is monumentally even more pointless than in EF. The game then needs other avenues to generate revenue since the character releases don't do it.
>>579271587
>>579271397anon you can just make a fun game without jewing out and abusing your playerbase and they will willingly spend a fuckton of money on your game. Look at ogak there is fucking nothing to spend money on in that game. 6 stars are plenty, anything can clear everything, operator skins are free. No rolls gated behind content. and they pull in almost a bil profit in the last year. same goes for limbus every character is basically free and you are actively discouraged to spend money, and it easily gets to top 3 on steams money charts on walpipi events. And they have enough money (quote from the director) to run the game at a loss for the next 3 years.
>>579271397>but endgame is apparently being treated as a for everyone mode..I like it that way. Getting paywalled by the endgame would suck. Honestly don't worry about the financial stuff, they wouldn't lease an entire new building if the company was doing badly.
>>579271029MMO would only work if it's like the angelina alter event where everything is in the 2D chibi artsyle. Retains their VN style writing, basic theatre play-like cutscenes, and much cheaper to develop. They could pump out multiple regions in a year.
>>579271608I'm thinking throatpie while I'm hanging on for dear life
Oblivion seems better than the cope for Typhon ngl
>>579271029MMOs will never be a game genre again, it's already dying and nobody will take the risk to make a new one. It takes way too long to develop, the fanbase isn't big and will always get flamed for lacking content to mmos out 10+ years(like no shit). The only MMOs these days are cashgrab korean ones which are more p2w than any gacha and those die off very fast. Not to mention how ADHD brain zoomers are now, they don't have the patience for an MMO which adds onto it being a dying genre
>>579271029The post-genshin 3d open world gacha is basically the modern version of the mmo. Except more optimized in terms of price discrimination because you capture all the people playing for free as well as the whales spending thousands.
>>579271759Your Spiki MMO?
>>579271245>>579271305go ahead and argue with Nasu who said that no one can make 3D gacha in Japan because of budget and work force
>>579271769>as the whales spending thousandsare you saying XIV don't have those people as well
>>579271828>weak currency>aging workforce>horrible work conditions>lagging behind in technical prowess and tech in generalHe's right though, particularly in context of Japan. Cygames might've been the one who could do it, but they're doing more than fine without one.
>>579271828>3d gacha is too expensive for japan -> gacha is more expensive than mmosretard
>>579271593>>579271650AK gets you with the monthly pass and resource packs. game modes like IS and the "lore" is designed for you to stay longer, increasing the chances that you'll swipe. It's a different experience when you go ftp and veteran mode.
>>579271653Endgame stuffs fine, the chase is fun even if you can't completely max it, that's the appeal in AK CCs it's a challenge about getting the highest you can instead of there being a tangible and reachable goal anyone can achieve. It's why I have issues that the high end/max risk stuff can be done so freely now and how they announced doubling down on it.
>>579271828He's right about no one can make 3D gacha in Japa but that's because japs are stuck in the past and refuse to catch up with trends. Then entire country is so fucking backward it's insane.
>>579271950Cygames tried with relink, that's why the game was in development hell for years, it didn't work out
>>579272158And relink isn't even open world.
>>579272158Yeah, and they're still doing more than fine without it being gacha? Grub and Uma alone continue to fund their entire operation. And Relink continues to get new content, so its clearly successful enough to warrant it, which you could easily argue is a net benefit blessing over it going the way of a 3D gacha.
>>579272043I think if I am getting hundreds of hours of content out of a game that I can play at my own pace and everything is accessible a monthly pass is the least I can do for them. Also who the fuck spends money on resource packs? The game shits out lmd and mats after a few months of playing.
>>579272056I see. Well, my personal preference is the opposite so I guess we can only agree to disagree here. I like that the rewards aren't gated behind max risk clears in Endfield's CC. I don't need special incentives to complete higher risk levels, I can do it just for fun.
>>579272043>resource packsI literally don't know what to know with my resources anymore, who even buys those outside of maybe new players in their first month? My stockpiles have been lasting years at this point. I'm at the point where I'm annoyed I can't queue up more than 6x rewards at a time for 1-7 for my dailies
>>579272456I just do 11-18 now... ofc its not as efficient but hey at least i can be done with it in 5 minutes.
>>579271650Like mentioned before AK (and also limbus) are 2D games. The development cost for them is far lower so even when they're not generating as big a revenue as 3D games, the turn out is well worth continuing. >>579271593Between having a dedicated fanbase, skins, CC that requires a horizontal and vertical roster. IS which requires a horizontal roster and generally bigger powercreep than endfield currently has. There's a lot of spending methods for AK. We're just lacking any spending methods, everythings incredibly f2p, no skins, content can be done f2p with minimal roster spread. I'm fine with giving the high/max risk tier to whales they can have that space if it means the rest of the game remains the comfy f2p.
>>579272541no point speculating on things like these. HG operates completely differently compared to the other big 3D gacha devs that pocket most of the profits and reinvest pennies. Only time will tell how all of this will pan out. See you in 1 year to see how bad things have gotten or they have remained the same.
>>579260928Reminds me of home
>update releases on a Wednesdayy tho? Makes it much easier to wait for the full set of free login roll tix before hitting the slot machine, admittedly
>>579272838fuck I miss classic wow so much. I will never forgive blizzard for raping my baby like they did. on the topic of mmos are any of you guys looking forward to the lord of mystery mmo or maple classic, aion 2 or gow3?
>>579272924No. I have fond memories of my MMO days, but those days are definitely behind me. Half the fun was the social aspect with randos from across the world. But it's a thing that just can't function like it used to with social media and tech in general being the way that it is now.
>>579272345>I like that the rewards aren't gated behind max risk clears in Endfield's CCNonono I'm not asking for the rewards to be gated behind that. FUCK NO. I agree the rewards should be accessible to all, even AK CCs do this.I'm literally asking for the "for fun higher risks with no rewards" to be much harder that you can't do them so freely as f2p. If that's whale/meta team specific territory then that helps get people rolling for meta. As currently it doesn't particularly matter since it's clearable max risk with all the teams, not just the intended combustion teams the CC was designed around
>>579273016thisMMOs are washed sadly
>>579273038>well yes I want to be jewed out of things anon I-
>>579273038I don't recall max risk clears with f2p teams aside from the shilled wulfgayIt's been a while though
>>579273187mask risk was only broken by a team of max potted 3 limiteds. It WAS whale territory, but like risk 52 was accessible by alot of comps. https://youtu.be/005_5v869EE
>>579273115We're going to be jewed out of something else if they want people to spend on something. I'd rather concede the max risk epeen flexing territory over anything else. Since it's not like we CAN'T chase high risks still, people don't give up just because they can't get max risk, they still try to get as high as they can. The point of CC is going as high as you can, not quitting because you can't reach the defined finish line
Give me the swimsuit skins lowlight
>>579273420Perlica swimsuit skin but she's wearing a hoodie that's zipped up and wearing shorts over the swimsuit
>>579273340I dont think HG feels like they need to jew people more in this game.They dont have investors askign them to chase a ever increasing bottom line and they make good money and are spending it frugally. Even buying a new office space for 7000 employees hiring 300 more people probably 150 just for endfield. If they were desperate and ef was operating at a massive loss we wouldnt see these things. Again no point speculating getting raped and jewed out if we havnt seen any behavior from them pointing towards that yet.
>>579273514cutewould. The hoodie keeps the little cat ears, the shorts are buttoned down hotpants jeans and the hoodie is made out of clear plastic
>>579273539I'd rather be safe than sorry. I just don't want them to jew us with powercreep or reduce our f2p income or make pots stronger/mandatory. It really is nice currently. There's just a big lack of any meta chasing so how can we retain those players/spenders
>>579273324Rossi ult is so fucking good they had to make a risk to only allow you to use it once
>>579273743its their problem honestly, We are just waiting for the summer chen moment honestly if it ever comes and we shall see from there. They can just make a good game that makes you want to support them.
>>579273813It's a shame there's so few classes in this game that the risks are just generic blanket bans like that. Otherwise it could've been a risk where only guards can use their ultimate once, everyone else is good. but they can then counter them in other ways like strikers skills have reduced damage to counter leek. The risks could be far more defined rather than "everyone do -60% dmg and you can only use your ultimate once"
Me? I will simply continue leekloving my way along
>>579274052I feel like they'll probably get more specialized as the game mode iterates upon itself more. It's still just the first one
Behold, one of your leaderboard champions. Master of rice and chubby lungs
When are we getting an operator who has an aerial moveset? I want a character who can fight while flying around but with a totally distinct moveset from their ground abilities. Typhon being able to suspend her self in the air and shoot is cool but I want them to go even further with it.
>>579274257Hopefully never. Your example looks like an awful experience.
>>579274210>having fun>winning tournaments >buys cute merch>proudly wears his hag shirt he's okay in my book even if he does need a better haircut
>>579274402leekfriends are so nice
>>579274402that's a flat hag too
>>579274554
Women in Arknights feel like they are actually real.
>>579271828How'd you get so stupid?
>>579274896>cute, attractive, competent, wife material aplenty>realI wouldn't say so
>>579274896hmmm nyo
>>579274896>hmmm nyes
>>579274896They're competent and don't panic and make shit worse when things go wrong. Very opposite of my experience.
>>579274896Arcane is a masterclass in visual female anime character design.Functional, no high heels, comms and headgear, just enough skin, weapons up the cool factor.I don't know how poor Liino was meant to go after the masterpiece that was Arcane.
>>579275358Liino went very well
Waiting for these to become the new "virgin killer sweater"
>>579274896we have women posting here? crazy bruh
>>579274257>le flying boss that can only be hit by character that can flylol that's absolutely shameless
>Dude what the fuck is she even saying? Is that meant to be English?
>Devs do a whole panel at gamescon, talk about things such as all the effort they put into designing characters>Only to butcher their designs last minuteCan the anon who went tell us if they showed any Fangyi concept art? I'm curious if they showed concepts for her original desgin pre-censorship, or do they just want to pretend that old design never existed now (it still exists because the 1.0 cutscene was never changed to this very day). I can't really believe they're truly "passionate" when they repeatedly have taken what their artists have worked so hard on and destroyed them to appease some unknown entity. If I was the artist at Hypergryph who designed Zhuang Fangyi I'd have quit in disgust after what they did to her.
oh great the censorship schizo is back
Sssh, you're witnessing mental illness. Listen and learn.
naruhodo...
I think this calls for Leekloveposting
>>579276495They run the risk of getting Snowbreakd so it's the best choice. Would you rather have EOS 5 months ago or some stupid straps of Fangyi? I have a feeling Endfield is too young to be making any demands, and HG is too small. You can see what Hoyo gets away with in games like ZZZ. You could have a whole cold war style drama about Chinese gaming politics, it's crazy in there.
I dunno whats worse, the schizo or the leek attention whore
EVERY DAY WHEN I'M WALKING DOWN THE STREET
>>579276919Always the schizo. Attention whores ruin threads but not as viciously, like say, posting cp out of schizo meltdown
>>579276919Nothing wrong with appreciating Electric Leeks
Massive Amounts of Affection
>>579277416Dangerous hag (youthful)
>>579274896Feels like the opposite to me. Those fictional women are nice, patient, competent, stable, predictable, devoted. Even the evil ones are powerful, fearless, coherent. It's clear that they were born in the mind of an autistic male as an ideal because few, if any, women are like that irl.
>muh censorship againyawn, get better material
Why did they even make valley iv? What's the point of geodude as the enemy
>>579277564Do you think I'm a troll and that I don't actually like Endfield? If censor-posting got this annoying I suppose I will have to stop. Sorry.
>>579277564It's a South Korean guy who get paid to be here. He's got all the tabs open on Chinese gacha games and pretends to complain about censorship.I forget who he works for, the posts are written with GPT and whatnot.He got caught out on /v/ once by his employer incorrectly trashing a Korean game for censhorship.
i liked valley iv
>>579277564The raped
>>579277637It was too far into development to can completely. Things like Rossi, the fancier cutscenes, etc. they added for launch were just bandaids to get over the line
>>579277752Is he swimsuit schizo 2 electric boogaloo in spirit? Real funny if true about being a Gook though, with Typhonschizo also under their belt, plus THE handsign stuff
>>579277728>Do you think I'm a troll and that I don't actually like EndfieldIn fact, I do. I don't think you even play actually.
Could Suzuran or Rosmontis's Reconvener versions potentially appear as adults?
>>579277728A schizo apologizing for being annoying? What the fuck. Hold me /END/, this can't be real
>>579277930Yeah, its called Vulpisfoglia reconvener
>>579277987FFFVVAAARRRK
>>579277948Because it isn't. He's one of the low tier grunts. The actual main censorshipschizo would've been spam posting his favourite "comparison" pics for umpteenth time right about now
>>579277948He's trying to make you think he's one of us bwo
>>579277930Big booba onee-san Los Montis with a functional photographic memory Reconvener...
I'm not gonna do it anymore, I hate it but I won't do it. I'll just lurk. I'm sorry.
>>579277752the bikini schizo has an extended lore?
Amazing acting, Oscar worthy even.
When Typhoeus was portrayed as younger than Typhon, the players’ reactions were very positive. What was the reaction when Pogranichnik appeared in a younger form instead of his original elderly appearance? Was the response similarly positive, like it was with Typhoeus?
This tard types like typhonschizo. Heck, I doubt even the real typhonschizo goes here and some anon is just larping as him because he thinks it's fun.
>>579272924lord of mysteries is dead on arrival, it's literally tof5 reload
>>579278606It was "Liduke got her OC husbando into the game? Good for her."
>>579278606We sadly don't have a Pogschizo for people to react to so we don't know.
>>579261449>how tf you think we all ended up at EndfieldI've been playing Arknights for 5 years before that
>>579269875whenever typhon consumes a nature infliction, she also applies an arts burst effectthey said this in the fucking reveal video
>>579278828so they just did that so she can activate weapon skills?
>>579278908no, they did that to tell retards that she does not fucking function with fucking nigger liino and nigger perlica.
>>579278961>nature amp doesn't function with nature damageretard
>>579278961they literally showed her working with liino tho
This game made me realize Chinese people are human too.
>>579279045are you japanese?
>>579279045jury is still out for me. it's like ~20% of them have souls but its such a large population thats still like a billion of the fuckers that are just glorified insects
>>579279045Wrong realization
>>579278908no, arts burst are a nice mechanic, also benefits from arts intensity, and it's nice having a striker who can do this kind of damage, maybe there will be a CC where arts burst is gigabuffed, so you want to play monoelement teams
>>579279019>>579279034NTA but good luck getting Liino's ult up in a timely fashion. The main way Liino gains ult energy is with her combo, that triggers on REACTION application or consumption. On Typhon's team, the only two ways you're doing this is everytime Perlica's Electrification combo is up, or Corrosion application with INT Arcane's ult. Except you wouldn't be doing the latter anyway since it's WILL Arcane that synergises with Typhon's kit best by generating the double-triple-stacked nature inflictions
>>579278961>unconditional Nature amp support doesn't work with Nature dpswuh?
>>579279393>unconditionallol
>ardelia will be meta again
>>579277564>>muh censorship again>yawn, get better materialImagine defending this unironically
>>579279332the autistic japanese dude that theorizes team comps and does a good job most of the time did the early calcs and said liino + perlica will be BiS for her. You underestimate how often eletrification is upThe main reason why i think perlica + liino + arcane will be better is just because typhon's first rotation costs 100 SP and after that it's 200. if hunting arrows eat nature inflictions for auto burst then that's at best 300 SP for her first rotation and 500 after that.Lets not forget about liino's sig being really strong + stanza and electrification having a really high uptime
NEED.... an OP image
>>579279658I'm the strongest Lowlight cocksucker, i'll defend him for raping my mom even
>>579279662link to the "calcs"?they are probably all wrong but i just wanna see his logic
>>579279695here you go
>>579279332are we just ignoring all the content that lets you start with ultimate available? typhon/liino will be still be a valid team for umbral stages, crisis fragments, and boss speedruns. who knew you can run different team comps for different types of content!
>>579279735thanks bro
>>579279793>>579279793>>579279793>>579279793Migrate at 750
>>579279695put in the fucking 2 new links>arsenal exchange cyclehttps://www.endfield-weapon-tracker.online/>factory plannerhttps://enkad.enka.network/
>>579279728nta but who do you think works better than liino and perlica? They aren't perfect, but they're still the best picks
>>579279662They will work but it will be really boring to play. Youre not interacting with the game at all and just waiting for everyone's ult to be up.
>>579279735>aislop
>>579279765>umbral stagesUmbral doesn't start you with full ult energy, Endpipi-chama...
>>579279478>tap ult>get buffwow, so hard to achieve
>>579279821gilberta+xaihi obviously, xaihi gives the same amount of amp as liino, can also use stanza like perlica, the only thing you miss out on is electrification, but instead you gain the massive susceptibility debuff that gilberta does, considering that typhon's damage comes in a burst, and gilberta's ult duration can cover 90% of that burst.
>>579279658Damn I wish I was mentally ill enough to lose my shit over this
