Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic! /sthg/ #9559 - Would they? edition ==NEWS== >Sonic Blitz has been cancelled https://x.com/saac_news/status/2090738578074579070?s=46 >Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary >Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026 https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI >Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027 https://x.com/SonicMovie ==Comic Release Dates== Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026 DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 02 September 2026 Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026 Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026 Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026 ==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS== https://rentry.org/sthg-links >Milestone pastebin: https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4 >Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet: https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet >Perfect System Collection: https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection >Sonic comic scans: https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics >Sonic shows: https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows >SAGE https://sagexpo.org/ >SHC https://shc.zone/ >#10000 Project https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru >/sthg/ booru: https://sthg.booru.org/ >/sthg/ CyTube: https://cytube/r/sthg >/sthg/ Pixel World: https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg Previous Zone: >>579220908
100 dollars for Shadally fanfiction
Dogfucker was btfo by Ken Penders and she's pretending to be tough.
>>579272565Hot
>>579272565Sonurgefags be like YEAH SEXUAL HARASSMENT
Give it just a bit and we'll start seeing the usual gaslighting where one samefag starts posting about how shit Sonurge is while posting Sonamy pics and then starts responding to themselves about bestie meltdowns.
>>579272662need more of her
>>579270853I’m pretty sure Katie hates Shadria and I think we all know the reason why
What are you guys talking about 100 dollar Shadally fanfic?
>>579272784Can't get enough of her
>>579272617>>579272758I'm posting it because I don't get the joke and google translation isn't helping. Maybe someone who knows moonrunes can help
>>579272842yep
>>579272825Our local hardcore Shadriashipper who hates Shadally and any ship involving Shadow that isn't Shadria bought a $100 Shadally fanfiction. Beyond mindbroken and cuck-coded.
Is it far fetched to say that Katie would support Lindsay Clancy?
>>579272939Duocuck spotted.
Coyote vs Acme was better than any of the Sonic Movies. Also Wile Coyote is glorious in this film. They didn't have to say, nerf his character cause muh relatable bullshit.
>>579273078Duofag mindbroke you lmao
>>579273138Okay Duocuck, what’s your favorite Sonic game?
Getting official work on a comic series just to sneak all of your friends' OCs into it doesn't sound vain at all
>>579272939Brother, you have been making the same absolutely obsessed post for days now. Are you okay? Did Krack like kick your dog or something?
>>579272939>Our local hardcore Shadriashipper who hates Shadally and any ship involving Shadow that isn't Shadria bought a $100 Shadally fanfictionSo there's a 100$ Shadally fanfic?
>>579273195MINDBROKEN
Douge
You guys think Nine wanted to kiss Sonic at any point?
She's seething lol
>>579272470Woah, that guy is faster than Sonic!
>>579273356
He’s coping.
He’s resorting to spamming, kek.
Not having nitter to check on Sonic things is killing me
>>579274010Is Nitter and Xcancel the same thing?
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU FIGHTING ABOUT NOW
>>579273930He's probably afraid that something will happen to his shit comic.
BREAK THE CEILING DOWN
Talk about the Sonic 4 steam leak
>>579274292It was fake and gay.
Why... do you want Surge to fall in love with Sonic?
>>579274386eh foes to lovers is cute, plus i like surge letting go of her fabricated hatred and being happier.
Good night.
The highest grossing movie of the year is about a psycho villain bitch realizing the hero was right and falling for him
goodnight
Pick it up Ian
Sonic movie>Has to go off the rails with the established lore>Changes Sonic's personality to appeal to normies>Needs Jim Carrey to carry the filmCoyote vs Acme>Only breaks one rule established by Chuck Jones>Wile acts exactly how he does in the original shorts>Is carried by solid writing and hilarious jokes>Opens the movie by calling the Road Runner "Fasteious Hellious"Why couldn't any of the Sonic movies be this good?
>>579271801Even if you delete the messages the proof of the convo still happened and that’s assuming the artists didn’t screenshot just in case. Not to mention you’re assuming a fan would have the resources or time to do this. Their characters are also literally just background cameos lol, none of them will actually become real characters.
>>579275054>THE ROAD RUNNER MUST STAY ON THE ROAD OTHERWISE, LOGICALLY, HE WOULD NOT BE CALLED ROAD RUNNER.This is stupid, and if I was in charge, I would do anything in my power to make the road runner run over everything but the road
>>579275280>Random /sthg/ poster thinks he can do better than a literal legend of cartooningMust be Sunday.
>>579275054Mandates are a good thing. They keep the legend of the characters alive. Developmentfaggots will never understand this.
>>579275409>Anon doesn't know we shit on Sega's mandates 24/7You thought your stupid roadrunner rules were any better? Fuck off newfag
>>579275548>We shit on mandatesWho is this "We"? Ian Flynn when he tries his darnedest to turn Amy into a lesbian? Mandates keep the retards from making things worst.
>>579275709Mandates are the reason Shadow is a retarded moron. You clueless idiots keep clinging to Sega like some homeless dogs. It's pathetic
>>579275548Let me guess, you really want Sonic to have a wife
>>579275908Shadow is retarded cause the IDW staff hates him. Big props to Bumblekast clown Kyle for letting the mask slip.
>>579272939It revealed how mindbroken duo is. He loves her.
He checks her profile every day....true love...
>spams enemies to lovers ships like sonurge>mentions the girl he hates daily for her attention>called her oc his wife, made porn of duo sexing the octhe biggest rivalry in sthg was actually a love story
>>579276018No>>579276057Shadow is a loser. As Sega themselves proved with Shadow generations. Shadow thinks he is scum for not letting Maria survive and his whole personality is him pretending what he will never be
>>579275908No they aren't. Ian Flynn admitted he would write shadow the same way without mandates.
>>579276467So you are going to Archie for once to suit your narrative. He only said that so you would let him alone
>>579275908>Mandates are the reason Shadow is a retarded moron. You clueless idiots keep clinging to Sega like some homeless dogs. It's patheticFuck off ian
If it's the mandates why is manga shadow so much better than idw shadow? they just proved the manga has the same mandates as idw. yet shadow is 100 times better there.almost like it's a westerner issue.
>>579276778>Ian is tired of trying to make sense of Sega's stupid logic >This is why Ian is a bad guy actually
>>579276907The manga that doesn't even know how chaos control works?
>>579276778So he stopped writing Shadow because Sega told him to write Shadow like all of the games? Including '06? God what a manbaby. Who's idea was it to hire this faggot again?
>>579276934What stupid logic? What part of it isn't making sense to you?
>>579277068Takashi Iizuka hired him
>>579276934If he wrote Shadow like the games this wouldn't be an issue
>>579277105Ian is the one who can't make sense to it, because Sega's demands are too stupid. Sega is the one with a twisted logic of how Shadow operates.
>stupid logic>what is stupid?>you know it's stupid
>>579276934>Ian can't understand male characters wanting to be the strongest“If one is born as a male, as at least once in his life, he’ll dream of becoming the strongest man alive”Clearly Ian isn't a male.
>>579277471Except Shadow doesn't care about fighting strong foes, because he doesn't like fighting, because he likes nothing like as Sega explained.That's why Ian said >last I heardBecause Sega changes his rules willy nilly trying to make Shadow's garbage diarrhea aurafarming fake personality make sense. And Ian doesn't like dealing with their stupid reasoning. So no, I don't hate Ian for not wanting to deal with Shadow.
>>579277305Now Sonic is going to deal with girls
>>579277836>because he doesn't like fightingCitation neededhttps://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/character/shadow.html
Die... die you stupid rat! DIE!SHINEEEEEEEEE BAKA-NA!
>Checks if the Steam leak had Sonic stuff>It's just wip ports of sonic 4, cd and gens to pc
>>579278020Blame Sega, not me or Ian
>>579278126I like how they just translated the sonic channel bio without realizing that was outdated info sonic channel forgot to update
>>579278282What exactly is outdated? the internal bios applied to the characters for years.
>>579278282It's not outdated, and it's not from Sonic channelhttps://www.sega.com/es/sonic-the-hedgehog
>>579278020Pff they added coffee for the memes in the likes section
The recent Steam leak has Sonic Episode 4 beta on the files. I don't know if anything interesting will come from this https://x.com/sonicstadium/status/2093870059814854986
>>579279114Nobody cares about Sonic 4 so I don't think anything will come of this. At best, someone will try to mod the physics to be more genesis accurate but that's it.
>>579279114Oh >>579278071I should have checked the thread before posting
>>579278020>>579278614Now if they ever update shadow's likes to coffee in the en website but keep amy's bio the same it will look bad for lore team
>>579282263https://files.catbox.moe/5rzhht.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/70f04d.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/655o09.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/yg411d.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/n36qq1.png
>>579282414The only Shadow ship that is good
>tikalLiterally who?
>>579277184How are they stupid though? How is their logic on how he operates twisted? Why can't you be specific?
>>579283148I don't like western comics, I wish I was Japanese. That's all the logic I need.
>>579278126This is correct, Maria died so he likes nothing. Except coffee I guess.
>>579282414Tikal is me
>>579282263>>579282414Lol this is the same artist that attacked me for saying Shadow loved Maria.Here she is drawing Shadow fucking Tikal because she reminds him of Maria.
>>579283264This artist draws a lot of incest and rape though
>What is my purpose?>>You're the emotional support and following pet.
>>579283740my kind of artist
>>579283839That's okay. I don't mind being the pet's pet.
>>579263345You lost Energykek, don't you ever forget it.
>look up soina>drew sally fucking her own dadAnd he has a problem with Shadria?
>>579283924yellow vixenussy, triggering neuron activation
Sticks has been canon to the mainline before Ian had any say in it. If anything, this is SOJ telling him to shut up. They had their own idea of modern Sticks. Ian's pitch that Sticks lives on angel island never came true. She already had a modern version bio in the olympic games, Sonic Runners and Sonic Channel. All of which stated she was a friend of Amy that lives in the jungle. Ian didn't invent that. That's all on SOJ. She is not a western character, she was created by Uekawa. You have Ian derangement syndrome to believe otherwise.
>>579284235
>>579284005yes
Say something nice about Shadow 05>Awesome stages like Space Gadget, Digital Circuit, Sky Troops, Lava Shelter, Circus Park, Lethal Highway, Final Haunt, Air Fleet>Expert Mode is the game at its best. You go through every level of the game (including Last Way, excluding bosses) in order>Great soundtrack by Jun Senuoe >Shadow is the darker counterpart to Sonic Heroes using the same codebase >Blur Studios worked on the FMV cutscenes, they still look great>Xbox version has the best background music, character voices, FMV video and sound effects>Reloaded https://github.com/ShadowTheHedgehogHacking/ShdTH-Reloaded
>>579284337People who hate Shadria are so strange
>>579284374The new ESRB rating unironically saved the game from being a complete trainwreck.
>>579283972Randomfox? he appears to be a too literalbrained autist which is kinda bad for trying to understand sonic and japanese materials in general
>>579284374>GCN and PS2 versions have a "hidden" co-op mode where Player 2 can control any mission rep (except Doom's Eye, Eggman and I think Charmy) and you can even play as Maria and super-slap your way to victory.
>>579283972I think it's best to just leave Randomfox alone at this point
fartria
>>579283972I believe water marine and sticks were japan but coffeedow revealed today might legit be a fanon win lol
>>579284374I never beat West City or whatever.
>>579284235Shadow the pussy
>>579284327You have Japanese cock slurp syndrome and let Uekawa kidnap Sticks for 12 years over your hate for Ian
>>579285776>coffeedow revealed todayWhen did this happen? Are there any other updates?
>>579286249Idk when , i just realized jp shadow's bio changed from likes:nothing to likes:black coffee, still dislikes all of humanity tho.dunoo if there are any other changes.
>>579284374>Xbox version has the best background music, character voices, FMV video and sound effectsYeah obviously "premium" consoles like Xbox have less compression / more space, but that was never the point. Sonic games are typically made for "lower-end" choices like GCN and ported upwards, which is why performance is noticeably different. No one is going to care about the marginal difference in quality with on-disc assets (which by the way, is a generalization and not a hard rule for each version) unless you're making a PC port, even then if you have access to the source assets that's even better than combing eaxh version. Like for Generations, you had uncompressed in-engine cutscenes on PS3, but most people played the 360 version which ran smoother and due to not having as many framerate jumps uncapped; whenever a Sonic game DID have to downsize for a more budget console, we got an entirely separate version like with Unleashed.
Imagine if the box becomes smaller and smaller haha
>>579283264>>579283885Okay Krqck, this is not your personal blog
>>579287541We can save up some space by doing thathttps://litter.catbox.moe/wk4kctfm3tow3lqn.png
>>579287576Dude everyone is Krack. Every single person is Krack forever. If they annoy you one time they're Krack. Krack Krack Krack. Krack my fucking Knuckles. If you look under the bed you will see Krack doing EVIL Krack things.
>>579287576You angered the shitposter.
>>579287765This is not cute. Fuck you
>>579287490>Sonic games are typically made for "lower-end" choices like GCN and ported upwards,GCN was higher-end than PS2Xbox 360 was higher-end than PS3
>>579288154Not according to their consumer launch prices.
Women shouldn't write.And when they do, a viewer warning should display before the story.
>>579288749Kiyoko Yoshimura> west male writers
>>579287490>unless you're making a PC port, even then if you have access to the source assets that's even better than combing eaxh version.You must be forgetting how bad the SADX PC port, SA2PC is basically a glorified GameCube emulator with some bugs, and Sonic Heroes PC that's missing code were.
>>579288749Women shouldn't exist.And men should give birth.
>>579287813Why does krack cause so much schizophrenia?
>>579289250If giving birth is like kidney stones but with female hormons helping the pain, then i can take it.Women are pussies for not making 10 kids and weaponize them in our current economy.
>>579288154>>579288303Target platform for Sonic>Sonic Adventure (Adventure Engine)Dreamcast >Sonic Adventure 2 (built on the SA1 codebase)Dreamcast (SA2 is far more reliant on the Dreamcast hardware than SA1/DX)>Sonic Heroes (Renderware Engine)GameCube >Shadow (built on the Heroes codebase)GameCube >Sonic 2006 used something called "SEGA NN" https://hedgedocs.com/index.php/Games#SEGA_NNXbox 360 >Unleashed (Hedgehog Engine)Xbox 360 >Colors (started out as a version of Generations for the Wii)Wii>Generations (built on the Unleashed codebase)Xbox 360 >Lost World (Hedgehog Engine)Wii U>Forces (Hedgehog Engine)PS4>Frontiers (Hedgehog Engine)PS5 >Shadow Generations (Hedgehog Engine)PS5 Misc>Sega Dreamcast had order independent transparency implemented in hardwarehttps://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/ms834190(v=msdn.10)?redirectedfrom=MSDN>Dreamcast goes all out on transparency and lighting, supports 8-bit destination alpha blending with 24-bit sourcing 32-bit z-buffer, Saturn and Dreamcast diffuse+specular lightning based on palette indices, Dreamcast used tile layered deferred rendering which supported order independent transparency. dreamcast’s gpu could sort up to 256 layers according to transparency completely automatically when regular PC cards made you manually sort transparencies>Sonic Heroes had to throw away SA2 more advanced in-house engine to be able to accommodate the PS2>Sonic Heroes runs on RenderWare, the same engine used for GTA III, Vice City and San Andreas>Sonic '06 FMV cutscenes are uncompressed on PS3>Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations are patched to run at 60fps on Xbox Series X|S consoles>Sonic Unleashed PS3 ran at like 5 fps as soon as the dynamic lighting kicked in>Sonic Unleashed features both baked lighting and global illumination>PS3 uses a Nvidia GTX 7xxx which is last gen as hell in terms of graphics. 360 uses next gen radeon with unified shaders
>>579288749nobody cares foxcel. archie is shit
>>579289250Finally, perfect society achieved
IDW is definitely better when Evan is writing because she just does gay therapy shit while Ian keeps trying to reinvent the characters
>>579289586The fuck is a foxcel.
Why is japanese Sonic doing the sissy hand posture? I thought you said Japan wasn't like this
Why do you even care about exposing people? Tomorrow everyone will forget about it again.
Why do you -mmpph Anon we can't! The thread will see us!!
Let them all see.
Yes anon, I want you to...play Crossworlds with me uwu
>>579282263>>579282414tikal is cute, whats the artist?
>>579290413All SSS have some feminine concepts to them or things that are made to appeal to female audience.
>>579291367The fact that he treats Amy like crap isn't enough?
>>579276778The character most associated with being proactive is Amy actually.
>>579277836>Except Shadow doesn't care about fighting strong foes,That was his personal motivation for beating black doom and doing his training in the extra mode afterwards. As black doom explains, being the ultimate is in his blood.
>>579278020>>579278126>black coffee specifically.Guess that was gonna come up eventually.
The most prominent cast.
>>5792918977 retards
>>579285776Shadow being associated with coffee is an old Sonic Team mean iirc. He would often be posted with coffee or coffee flavored things on their socials.But its addition is probably in fact a fanon response.
>>579291971Our retards.
>>579292102oh look, it's lesbian + lesbian niggerCan't make children and are eternal tokens.
Whispangle is good, you're just obsessed with looking tough online.
Americans just wanna bang genderbent versions of themselves.
>>579292294Explain their dynamic
>>579292393what's wrong with that
IDWfags ruined post-50 issues having Lanolin as the centre character
>>579292504Narcissistic, disgenic and incestuous. This is why you have so many trannies
>>579292068Does it predate the takeover coffee beans thing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABIDs6qBtcYWhat with Robotnik's obsession with eggs?
https://youtu.be/wibAKzcbl3k
>>579292489NTA but, Tangle grounds Whisper during her PTSD episodes while encouraging her to not isolate herself, while Whisper helps with Tangle's motivation and development as a hero-in-training in Sonic's World.The comics and side media doesn't always pull this dynamic off particularly well, and it's usually done at the expense of the cast. But that's the dynamic the IDW staff are trying to build with these two characters.Really the issue with Whispangle is there doesn't seem to be satisfying endpoint or benefit to this these two characters being together.
>>579294086cringebut also sovl
>>579294008>Adult Charmy after Sonic was brutality murdered by Eggman
can't understand how they made so colourful zone so lifeless and bland
>>579293481Naka, Yasuhara, or Oshima may have had an egg fetish.
>>579294591also, i've just noticed they wrote>"vanilla,"instead of>"vanilla",they placed that comma in quotes
>>579294591Maybe it's a color saturation issue?
after thinkign about it, shadow probably always liked coffee but it was not a facus and they opted for ''nothing'' because it portrays the aura of a misanthropic, closed off guy better, but because americans took it as literal nothing and made fun of it they added that to make it look more normal, although ''coffee'' and ''all of humanity'' arguably look even funnier.i've seen cases of other things being changed in sonic channel that weren't straight up headcanon but the wording gets more understandable for americans based on discourse.
shadow should like fags cigs in british english
>>579294690Still Eggmans best origin story. It's why fleetways peek
>>579295135It's funny cause they could have written something like Peace, followed by Motorcycles and the The Wizard of Oz cause it was Marias favourite movie or someshit and it would have gotten the point across just fine. Writing nothing makes Shadow seem like a flesh robot that can't deviate from his programming.>>579296374
>>579294520Infinite the Pedo...
>>579296896Who would Infinites Terra be?also, Paedophilia is classified as attraction to prepubescent children. Terra is like 14 in the Judas contract so she's two years two old for their relationship to technically be considered Paedophilia. Deathstroke's still grooming and fucking a Minor though so he's still a sex offender
>>579296374Yeah, he sucks a big long fag every morning
>>579274050You can tell Sonic is a narcissist because his harem is full of clones of himself.
14 yo is the minimum age to have sex in most euro countries so i don't bother about burgers cuck morality. Ephebophilia is normal.
Okay Infinite
>>579296824Hating "ALL OF HUMANITY" was also a huge reason why he became part of the edgy cringe culture
>>579297679Haremfags btfo
Niggerdow.
>>579297927That only happened because of a mix of seeing Maria being killed and Gerald's Brainwashing.Also did G.U.N have their own MK Ultra program? Since that would explain how Gerald brainwashed Shadow so easily.
>>579295135(me)>>579296824Eh you're thinking of it too literally, these are characters answering it rather than a third party describing it, a lot of the answers are more like what someone would say rather than an objective answer, this is why no girls other than cream tell their weight because she's exceptionally honest and too young to care.I don't really mind the black coffee thing being a character trait occasionally shown but when the other answer is ''disliking all of humanity'' it looks funny in a bio.>>579297927It was dislike, not hate.
>Jet looking at himself at the mirror, saying how sexy he is and that he would fucking himself. Then Wave walks inIs this IC?
>Come back to Crossworlds for the Crazy Taxi festival>Full bot team in every raceDamn, game's dead
That's always been the case since the pirate guy DLC, except for Sonic's birthday
>>579298545I fucking forgot that was on because I was wagemaxxing
>>579298849Fair, I skipped most of the festivals because I didn't give a fuck about any of the characters.
>>579272470Who is the Dedede of Sonic?
>>579296584Fleetway's origin is just the 1991 US Bible origin.Did AOSTH have an unique origin for Robotnik?
>>579299195>Did AOSTH have an unique origin for Robotnik?This is more STHAM but in that and Archie, I think Robonick was meant to be from Thousand's of years into the past and woke up from cryo in modern day Mobius that use to be Earth.
My name is Silver, quills of white,I came from futures dark as night.I fought for hope, I fought for her,But Blackwood came and made her purr.He took my Blaze upon the floor,While I just looked and wanted more.My psychokinesis fails once more,I cannot close the bedroom door.O Blackwood tall and dark and strong,Your ermine cock is twelve inches long.My Blaze is yours now, I can see,She only screams your name, not me.Please breed her deeper, make her cry,I’ll watch forever till I die.
>>579299403In Archie, he was one of the Overlanders (human with four fingers) who deserted and join the Acorn Kingdom.
coffee flavored cake is pretty subtle but i found the first seen actual trace of it in japan i think http://blog.sonic-channel.jp/archives/51446551.htmlwater marine, sticks, coffee shadow are all ST intention
>>579299016Broadly it's Eggman.In terms of actual use in the series, Knuckles.
Chip saysHomosexuality is unnatural and sinful
She spent $100 on Shadally fanfiction.
>>579298545I'm guessing everyone who still plays already grinded out the festival rewards the last three days
>>579289189...unless (You), yes (You), are making a native PC port. We know Sega cheaped out.
>>579292068>>579293167Wasn't it curry first?
>>579282414>Comic depicting Silver being conceived
metal wouldn't hurt cream, right?
>>579299403SatAM intended to use time travel. archie had him be one of the overlanders
>>579284374>>579289189Why has no one done a decomp yet? Using Dolphin is fucking shit and we got way better at reverse engineering source code than 5 years ago.>you can't decomp Gamecube gamesThan Decomp the Xbox or failing that the PS2 version
>>579299818"Chip" is basically the Mr. Tinker to his Light Gaia. He is basically brain damaged in that state and not of sound enough mind to voice his opinions on politics.
>>579299818chip is right
>>579300372Nah because both dark and light gaia are disfunctional when separated. Mister thinker is the only deviation from eggman and is not a missing piece.
>>579299063Is this a Deltarune reference?
>>579293481Wish they stuck with the eggs. They went with "fried chicken" being Eggman's favorite food later on to make a 'chicken-and-the-egg' joke. It's in Ivo Robotnik too ('ivo being 'ovi' or 'eggs' in Latin backwards).>>579299403SatAM and AoStH (and Archie very eary on) were supposed to be the same world but they all went their own direction. Only Archie included a semisimilar backstory that was going to be in SatAM. There are humans in AoStH along with the animals just like the games, so we can assume he didn't have a special origin in the final cut of the cartoons.
>>579300834>"both dark and light gaia are dysfunctional when separated">Both Light and Dark Gaia are referred to as "male", and their union (in "conflict") is necessary for the stability of Sonic's World>Chip says homosexuality is sin...ok?
>>579301327I am pretty sure chip is supposed to be more androgynous in japan, he has a more cute childish voice by a female va and jp doesn't have gendered pronouns.
>>579298513Wave needs to correct him before he turns just like that guy from Silence of the lambs
>>579301327>ok?Just spit it out faggot, we're all shitposting here.Even cannibalism is natural so for what reason we use natural as an argument?
>>579294072>Really the issue with Whispangle is there doesn't seem to be satisfying endpoint or benefit to this these two characters being together.That's because Whisper and Tangle are useless characters and the IDW writers only want to use them for virtue signaling and pandering
Though dough, doe dog.
>>579301982>Sonic captured/World WarSilver could handle it and Classic Sonic was called instead of Blaze>Metal VirusAgain, Silver handled itBlaze was too busy running a whole empire and conducting robot pirate progoms to deal with Sonic's bullshit.
>they both held hands, they're probably lesbians!
>>579301327>The only thing Chip learned from Sonic is being a self hate homoSonic is not a good influence for the youth.
>>579301672>that guy from Silence of the lambsThat's a bit to harsh
>>579302327>Silver could handle Forceslmao even
>>579302376it's less that they held hands and more that they're obviously fuckingbut i guess they could be bi.
Just realized Blaze is the only character not listed to have a liked thing in channel now with the new update.ok i found evidence the coffee for shadow wasn't a new or western thing, but are grapes for knuckles western or japanese?
>>579302723He did, he made the resistance before hand and took one of the 2 rubies that exist. love the roomba
WOAH
>>579302442Apogee and Perigee are vindicated.
>>579302327>Blaze was too busy running a whole empire and conducting robot pirate progoms to deal with Sonic's bullshit.She's not since she drives by to parties and races all the time, even giving the "running the whole empire" to random 6 year old she just met.
>>579303056woah there sonic, Coco is for Gex
>>579302750Aren't they living together now?>>579302816>Just realized Blaze is the only character not listed to have a liked thing in channel now with the new update.She's supposed to hate cooking because it constanrly reminds her that she's terrible at self-controlling her own heat, but I think we see her often acceptibg tea when soneone makes it for her.>are grapes for knuckles western or japanese?Both. They're in Knuckles' profiles in both the Western and Asian Sonic 3 manuals. However, I'm pretty sure the Western manuals tweak this to "Fruit (especially grapes)" which was recently brought back in the official site profile.
>>579302327>Oh boy! time for my daily fucking around in Sonics world because there's nothing and i have nothing to do here...wait my friends are in trouble? i-i got LOTS of work you know? Silver can handle it...B-BUT that doesn't mean he's better than me HMPH!
>>579302327>Blaze was too busy running a whole empireWhat exactly does she even do aside from drinking tea and using her Koala slaves as foot stools?
>>579302327>Silver can handl-Bitch can you help?
>>579303438Can't cook thing reminds me a bit of the glasses theory shit now. oh so jp knuckles likes fruit, whereas en manual added it being grapes specifically.
>hi>drok>it>eye
>>579303073>corruptor of youthReligious Orthodoxy intensifies.
>>579289580So basically >>579287490 is right except the Switch was such a curveball on Nintendo's part that that generation was the exception.
>>579303524She brings lesser realms under hers.
>>579304026>Can't cook thing reminds me a bit of the glasses theory shit now.Sally is the same way in the Archie comics, she can't prepare food for the life of her no matter how many culinarylessons Antoine gives her. I think it's just an easy joke to make for royalty.>oh so jp knuckles likes fruit, whereas en manual added it being grapes specifically.Yes, that's what I meant. In fact, it was still "Fruit" in Sonic X. Grapes specifically came back in Generations where he's by grapevines.
I love being different... and ostracized.
>Master Blackwood?>For fuck sake Silver. Don't you see I'm busy>"Silver flinched" S-Sorry master "He said bowing his head". But there is a new package for you. I thought you might need it for Ms. Blaze "He gives Blackwood the phallic objet">It's for you idiot "Blackwood throws the dildo at his face". Now go back to your room, don't stop using it until it's time for dinner, and don't interrupt me again unless is something important.>Y-Yes master "He closed the door running back to his place, wondering if he will ever have a chance to witness such a glorious vision again"
>>579305124How kind of Blackwood to make sure Silver has toys to keep himself occupied while him and Blaze smash their organs together
>>579305423
>>579305070It could be a simple joke yes, but I said this because i had a skitzo theory about if uwuver people shitposted about here was intended or an internal joke that existed in jp and if that was part of why idw was allowed to get away with it. it started with the takarazuka trivia + blaze and silver having opposite gender glasses in this year's monthly wallpapers. you know in anime and manga there's shitty jokes about being a good cook a signifier of femininity or making a good bride or some shit. then girls either being good chefs or lethal chefs being used for these crappy jokes. and with that context silver baking a pie recipe from amy can be recontextualized as a hint of jp uwuver.I don't have anything concrete to say it was in his design concepts, just few weird trails that make me think of it, though it's more likely that sonic team or sega just didn't give shit about idw characterizations or art direction.
>>579305495
>>579303783*Screens your call*
>>579305691(me)>>579305070did sonic have a fav food besides chili dogs for jp intention? it's useless either way but i am curious.
>>579305920>did sonic have a fav food besides chili dogs for jp intention?
>>579305124is that antoine?
>>579305124Silly anon, that's Antoine.
>>579306024>chilidogsew grows>McDonald's® corporation Happy Meal®sovl
It's always Silver Silver Silver, can we focus on Blaze alone?
>>579306697I don't care about Blaze so no, I rather make jokes about Silver being a cuck
>>579306697What's there to focus on? She hasn't had anything relevant in twenty years.
>>579306697I think Blaze the Cat is cool.
>>579272470Ian Flynn making sonic spinball canon just to explain that freedom fighters exist. Is the extact reason why he shouldn't have been hired on as a writer. I think just letting all the old Archie writers have IDW comics be non Canon should of just been the end of it. Ian just can't write sonic right without him feeling completely off because he's so used to how different Archie sonic was.
>>579306765This is how Modern sonic is written and I hate it. We've lost the plot
>>579293167According to Krack, yes
>>579306992
>>579287765Is this Silver's new transformation?
>>579306992That's why he needs to be replaced with a Japanese writer
>>579294072>Whisper helps with Tangle's motivation and development as a hero-in-training in Sonic's World.Give an example.In my experience their dynamic is just Tangle doing what you described for Whisper when she has a PTSD episode.
>>579298231Gerald didnt make Shadow hate Humanity. This meme was created by Softdowfags to make him seem less edgy when OwTheEdge memes were all rhe rage.
>>579305423>yellow chestwut
>>579307284>Give an example.Tangle had super claustrophobia for like one whole panel that one time. Whisper opened the door, filling her with determination and allowing her to continue her hero training by not being dead.Such a great two-way relationship.
>>579307558>Gerald didn't make Shadow hate HumanityIsn't it cannon that Gerald altered Shadows memory's in SA2.
>>579279114>>579278071>Gens and Sega All Stars have builds, Transformed does not. SADX has builds, SA2 does not. Sonic 4 1 and 2 have builds, alongside CD.I dunno, maybe we could get something cool if people haven't delved into all of the builds yet.
>>579299564Yea that was the source
>>579307256Sonic team needs to drop the idea that they need a western writer to appeal to western fans. Most sonic fans just want the Japanese writing to be translated and that's it.
>>579307623sometimes women don't shave
>>579307728I doubt most Sonic fans notice or care.
>>579307784It makes her looks a fem tails
>>579307284The pic I posted IS the example of how Whisper has inspired Tangle to be more of a hero, and that being a hero isn't just going on adventures and fighting badniks, but about actually helping people through self-sacrifice.That said, the comic isn't very good at meaningfully or satisfactorily displaying this development in Tangle, but it is what Whisper relationship offers to her character.
>>579307728>Most sonic fans just want the Japanese writing to be translated and that's it.That's how it happened in the 2000s games. Sonic Team is looking for a Japanese writer. They have a position open for it and I hope it means we won't have to deal with Ian's writing anymore
>>579305070>Sally is the same way in the Archie comics, she can't prepare food for the life of her no matter how many culinarylessons Antoine gives her. I think it's just an easy joke to make for royalty.I saw it more as an anime gag for Blaze Having a girl character suck at cooking is a comon anime gag.
>>579307728>Most sonic fans just want the Japanese writing to be translated and that's it.This has been the struggle with Japanese games since like the PS2-PS3 transition era. They all decided "Oh, hey, we're popular in the west now, how do we appeal to westerners?" Motherfuckers, none of us want you to do that, keep making Japanese shit. And the entire industry has been downhill ever since. I blame Square-Enix.
>>579308246Therapy circles and Tangle being Whisper's crying pillow when Whisper has a PTSD episode is all they ever do
>>579305920No. Tbh, Sonic having a specific fave food, while not ruining his character fits his themes less since part of his character is he goes with the flow and just acts on whims.He strikes me more at the type tp be open to all kinds of foods and just eat whatever. But it is what it is.
>>579307645>Tangle had super claustrophobia for like one whole panel that one time. Whisper opened the door, filling her with determination and allowing her to continue her hero training by not being dead.Oh yeah I remember now. They dont do this anymore. That should be fixed.>>579308246>The pic I posted IS the example of how Whisper has inspired Tangle to be more of a heroI don't see it.I think the thing with Whisper helping her with her claustrophobia is more substantive.
>>579308510What kind of insane take is this? You can go with the flow and still have favorite or preferable things.
>>579308121Most sonic fans would eat literal dogshit ai slop if it meant sonic got a new model. They don't really care about anything substantial about the series other then it having the name sonic slapped on to it.
>>579307678No. Gerald definitely put the imperative for thr ARK on him, but the idea that he completely rewrote his perosnality and memories doesnt line up with what is in the games or any supplemental media.In fact, im pretty sure the intention was that Gerald altered BiolIzard, not Shadow himself.Shadow's memories are portrayed very clearly as his own grief making his memory foggy. People portray it as him getting fake memories of Maria wanting revenge when that isnt in the game.
>>579305423Sorry I like my meat cooked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86MoDLEiuQA
>>579308794Read the whole post.
>>579308997>cookedLooks like she's getting it raw to me
>>579308774Good point. Tangle and Whisper are supposed to push each other out of their comfort zones and give each other a broader scope of what their ideals and life goals are.
You leak fags killed TCRF
>>579309896Why Rouge instead of Amy?
>>579308980I feel like another reason why people want Shadows memory's to have been altered is that it partially adds to the theory that he wasn't the real ultimate lifeform and been created after the fact, But mostly the fact that it makes Shadows character less stupid. Since a more rational character with Shadows character traits would just kill the guys directly responsible and then become a Priest or Gardner or someshit.Plus Shadow landing on earth, going on a personal vengeance quest and getting captured and then brainwashed is a lot cleaner than Shadow somehow getting captured immediately, Put on Ice immediately and then deciding to destroy the world immediately.
I'M HEEEEERE,REACHING FAR ACROSS THESE NEW FRONTIERS...hey maybe blowing half the budget for the ost is not such a bad idea.
>>579310501Nta funny, I also think Shadow as some sort of 47 analogy, except with less fathers, less stealth, more action and less British handlers.
sally
>>579306992Didn't that cringe Sega out of ever re-releasing the original (and superior) 16-bit version? Maybe he helped canonize Spinball, but now the wrong version is canon.Even if if he got his way, Rotor and fucking MUTTSKI over Chuck and Antoine? Thanks, graphic artists who may or may not still be alive!
Discord controls and hide your Sonic cut content now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8il57Jrkasw;_; ;_; ;_; ;_;
>>579310757One of these Sallys is not like the others.One of these Sallys doesn't belong.
>>579309216Kyle...
I am a drawnigger UUUH UHUH OOGA BOOGA I'M GONNA DRAW SONIG THE ONGOBONGO ON A CAVE WALL UH UH UH
>>579310828the genesis version is literally there on the release history page on both sonic websites and you can get it on the switch or if you mean the "canon timeline". neither spinballs are there
>>579311738>Digital Store: Nintendo SwitchOK I missed that.>Dr. Planet Mobias
>>579302723>clean it up janny
>>579311738>a plane piloted by TailsImplying it's NOT the Tornado? Maybe an enemy vehicle Tails quickly repurposed?>"It looks nothing like the Tornado!"It doesn't even look like the same plane between the 16 and 8-bits versions, and 'early-installment weirdness'.
>>579307703Thumbnail made it look like Honey was presenting her ass
femboy_on_female
>>579312518that's like almost every piece of tails porn (especially if the girl is a futanari)
>>579310750>I also think Shadow as some sort of 47 analogy, except with less fathersAre you kidding? While probably less than agent 47, Shadow has at least 3 fathers we know about, Gerald who created him, Black Doom who he got his Doom blood and immortality from and whatever Hedgehog's blood Gerald got Shadows base DNA from, which could be more than one.
>>579312628>especially if the girl is a futanariAre you specialized to ruin my immersion?
>>579312518
>>579312628>futanari
>futa/d/iggers should have their spines broken with a sledgehammer.
>>579312516
i am sick of porn and coomers
>>579310757I love the top right one
>>579311572Idk who that is, I just think the wolf is hot.
>>579312846the hottest kind of woman
>>579313092Mike...
>>579313071I know you are doing a larp but ok
>>579312992Base cell looks so much cooler than perfect cell.
>>579312713>You're wrong that Shadow had less fathers, he had 3 Yes but 47 had 5: the scientist, the triad, the drug lord, the shower bomber and the weapons dealer bomber, they were all donors.There's no word if Gerald himself donored his DNA to project or if he was father in the mixing sense.
>>579313027I will now write a 10000-word essay on why Amy Rose deserves my cock in all of her holes.
not enough sonics wear glasses.racing outfits don't count.
>>579313224he really does, he sounded more sinister too
>>57931344275 cm 85 cm
>>579313463paulandamy...
>>579313160>You're just pretending I actually read the fleetway and prefer British Sally to burger one, you wanker.
>>579311738>>579311941You get a better translation from Google translate. The story is essentially SatAM. Spinball came out 1 month after the first episode aired.
Sonic the Hedgehog x Like a Dragon
>>579313490It's okay, all of them do now.
>Hey, hello! My name is miles, but everyone calls me tails!>don't worry! I'll tell you whenever i spot a filthy nigger to shoot and kill and loot!>*dances*
>>579313424>There's no word if Gerald himself donored his DNA to the projectWoudn't be complety far fetched if he wanted the ultimate life form to have ultimate Robonik intelligent's https://youtu.be/SP8Jp7bDp6c?t=46
>>579311738>>579311941>Dr. Planet MobiasNot to be confused with Dr Mobius from FNW or Dr Ignatio Mobius from Tiberium series
>>579313560I still think you're pretentious because bong sally was just an NPC who was just a news reporter sometimes. I associate "fleetway sally good" with the rest of the anti sally crowd
>>579313761>SuperboyI wonder if Rouge would ever notice if Lex suddenly had a bar code tattoo on back of his head?
sonic x tikal is probably the best ship nobody draws art for
>>579313951To tell the truth there's nothing wrong with Sally in conceptual level, her fans, shipping and Archie ruined her. But you do you.
>>579314184fair enough
>>579309745Yeah. Whisper should hell Tangle become more tempered and focused and help her lock in.
>>579314184I think her design is too regular american bootleg chipmunk even without all that.
>>579314114The funny thing is that Portillo is a Spanish surname, not an Italian one
>>579305920Ironically I wouldn't be surprised if it was supposed to be eggs (hedgehogs love bird eggs) but not cool enough I suppose.
>>579314060wrong
>>579310501>Since a more rational character with Shadows character traits would just kill the guys directly responsible and then become a Priest or Gardner or someshit.Gerald himself saw humanity as immature and foolish, which is why he didn't want to work on the project to begin with. To the point he designed him eoth a heart so he cpuld refuse to be used as a weapon of war. Undoubtedly Shadow would overhear Gerald talk about how immature and selfish humanity can be.That and he is an immortal superbeing. He has no experience of the world outside of what happened on ARK and what he experienced after Eggman let him out.People making this argument are doing the dumb "cant you see its not fair to blame me for what my ancestors did" bullcrap as if it would meaningfully affect his motivation just because its "logical".All that said, nah its really about just trying to make Shadow out to be just a victim of circumstance to wobbify him and make him seem less edgy and extreme, even though that aspect is important to his character.
Oh great it's that guy again.
>>579312713>and whatever Hedgehog's bloodNice fanfiction
>>579314852>bunnie is gordon freeman>antoine and rotor are coming from another cartoon unironically
>>579315056What, assuming the thing that's a clone of an Hedgehog has hedgehog dna, just because we aren't explicitly told that is headcannon?
>>579312518Shadow x anyone
>>579314891>he designed him "eoth" a heart so he "cpuld" refuse to be used as a weapon of warPlus most of Gerald's hatred of humanity came after his Granddaughter was killed and the military captured and tortured him to the point of literal insanity. Most of what you are quoting came after the fact, with the exception that he didn't want to make a weapon and only did so cause his Granddaughter was ill.
THAT is doctor Eggman, a notorious scientist known for kidnapping animals and putting them into robots. He's also wanted for wanton destruction and endangering wildlife across the globe, especially in South Pacific. He also flooded a city, blew up half the moon and cracked the Earth open, twice. Quite a resume.
Sonic, Shadow, Silver, Knuckles, Blaze, Jet are all teenagers, physically and mentally. They are not adults. If you want them to act like adults you are a self inserter who is too old for this franchise.
>>579315836I guess you love movienic characteration?
sparky? is that you?
>>579308510>He strikes me more at the type tp be open to all kinds of foods and just eat whatever. But it is what it is.That's pretty much how he's characterized in Unleashed though. The chilidogs are said to be his favorite in the flavor text but he's an omnivore and will eat anything. Some Channel artwork also depicts him this way (even though chilidogs do appear)..Strangely Blade of Courage flanderized him in this regard, chilidogs are his Achilles' Heel just like in AOSTH, though it mainly happens in filler
>>579316034No I hate Westshit. ...Well actually the movies are *okay*, tolerable, but that's mostly because they aren't completely hijacking the actual franchise. Worst it's done is the lightning shit.
>>579298231Gerald didn't brainwash Shadow per-se. What he did was alter Shadow's memories of Maria.
>>579316178>because they aren't completely hijacking the actual franchise
>>579316178>but that's mostly because they aren't completely hijacking the actual franchisetoday we are reminded that the jpfaggot doesn't play the games neither
>>579316347That's DLC? What's wrong with promotional DLC?>>579316587>Worst it's done is the lightning shit.Already said that. It sucks but it's one thing. IDW forces the franchise to bend to IDW on multiple different fronts.
>>579316236While it's not as dramatic as rewriting shadows entire personally, Altering someones memory's in order to more easily manipulate someone into doing what you want, I would consider a form of brainwashing. Hell people consider cult members brainwashed and that's more just standard manipulation rather than Manchurian candidate style mind control.
>>579316587Sonic the hedgehog canon:Video games by Sonic TeamMost video games by 3rd partiesSonic the Hedgehog extended canon (Can be decanonized at any time):Sonic Channel Stories (except Sticks)Most Sonic tie-in animations (Colors, Shadow, TSR, etc.)Was never canon:All American localizations until Sonic AdventureAdventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (AoStH)Sonic the Hedgehog (SatAM)Sonic UndergroundArchie SonicSonic the Comic (Fleetway Sonic)Sonic the Hedgehog (OVA)Sonic mangas (All of them)Sonic XSonic the Hedgehog moviesAll of Sonic BoomSonic Prime (Blame the writers)Sonic Mania AdventuresTwitter TakeoversShadow the Hedgehog MangaIDW SonicTailstubeStuff Sonic team imported into the games:Dr. Ivo Robotnik (American canon)Amy Rose (Sonic Manga)Charmy Bee (Sonic Manga)Metal Sonic using life data (Sonic OVA)Cream the Rabbit (Sonic X)Shadow's Limiter Rings (Sonic X)Two Worlds (Sonic X)Sonic liking Chili Dogs (American Canon)Ray's blue shoes (Archie Sonic)Team Hooligan aka Fang's Gang (Archie Sonic)"Let's Do it to it!" (SatAM)Badnik (American canon)Super Badnik (Sonic the Comic)Vector's Crush on Vanilla (Sonic X)Eggnet (Archie Sonic)Abraham "Abe" Tower (Archie Sonic)"Up, over, and gone!"(AoStH)Sonic having a blue electric eyes (Sonic the Hedgehog movies)
>>579312467It's marked with an "S" in the 8-bit version, so it's Sonic's plane, I guess. Does Sonic have more than one plane? I always took it as being remodeled every so often, and Tails is the one with planes he built based on it.
>>579316740>Inb4 that's a separate level through a portal>inb5 that's some visual effect and it doesn't matter>inb6 it's actually goodLet's say the next DLC in whatever game adds a portal to archie and Sonic hops in there and finds himself in Knothole. And maybe adds a big ring power up that boosts Sonic's abilities and gives Sonic the ability to spindash into a buzzsaw.wyd?I will tell you wyd. you will seethe about ian hijacking your beloved jp franchise with westoshitto and spam here day and night like the fat sperg your are
>>579316946Isn't Prime "noncanon" like 2006 was? Also nice pasta.
>>579316946>never canon>idw>prime>tailstubeall these are canon. saying they aren't is just cope
>>579317020>Does Sonic have more than one plane?While it is a retcon, I see the Tornado and Tornado 1 as separate planes. One of course being Sonic's and the other being built by Tails
>>579317293
>>579317461Why is he always like this?
Sticky
>>579314704Tails also had foxlike carnivore cravings in the West before his Sonic Jam profile reinforced mint candy like in the Sonic 2 JP manual...>>579316073>chilidogs are his Achilles' Heel just like in AOSTHBoC allowed Sonic to run on the water surface from a LONG DROP while CARRYING PEOPLE - not needing the momentum from land like he usually does - so giving him SOME weakness (even if mostly a gag) is better than nothing.
Why did no one think of this yet? The ninja pants and the bandages are the same. Starline might be using Megani/Enigma to steal things.
>>579316946Amy is not imported from manga, that's like saying togepi is imported from anime.
>>579318087This character is bad because he is not smiling. The other characters smile so the fact that he is not smiling is boring. He needs to be more like the others, happy with several friends, in order to be good. Otherwise just kill him. Kill every lonely person in fact. My favorite Sonic media is IDW and Sonic & Friends btw.
>>579315805>Plus most of Gerald's hatred of humanity came after his Granddaughter was killed and the military captured and tortured him to the point of literal insanity. Most of what you are quoting came after the factGerald already had a less than positive view of humanity. He viewed humanity as flawed and prone to violence and self destruction. He also saw science as a means of trying to rectify this and bring about peace.Yes he only went full on nuke the earth after they literally drove him mentally ill, but the precedent existed for it.It didnt come out of nowhere.
>>579318503Are you quoting Karen the mom, mother of Jimmy the 5 year old?
>>579315392>a clone of an HedgehogNice fanfiction
>>579318281What if the Mask thing is like Starline but Enigma is wearing it/working for it. Like idk maybe Starline was able to make himself into some cyborg or techy thing.
>>579318482The manga came out first so it gets the credit. See also Cream from Sonic X.
>>579318281>The ninja pants ... are the sameWhat about the red sash?Also, an IDW artist kinda accidentally confirmed squidface is male.
>>579318816>an IDW artist kinda accidentally confirmed squidface is maleWhere?
>>579317443Wait, the Cyclone wasn't the Tornado 2?Wait, the Tornado-1wasn't the 1st Tornado?Too many fuggin' planes! Just have the red one be Sonic's biplane and the blue one Tails' mechplane.
>>579312713Him looking like a hedgehog was completely by chance.
>>579316073Yes, i want to clarify i do not oppose the childhoods being his favorite in principles. I just think it would strengthen his character concept if he didnt have one. But its not like its inclusion ruins him.I do hate how flanderized it is now. And its not just an english thing anymore. Him being obsessed with them and it being like the only thing he seems to eat is a problem in general and I hate it.Treat it as basically a personality type.People will make excuses for it but them say 2000s Amy was "too one note" because she introduced herself wondering where Sonic was or going "Soonniiiikuuu" one to many times.
I just saw the Movie Amy design leak and I’m sad I wasn’t here when it was revealed.How did you goofballs react at the time?
The more i watch satam the more i think sally's role was completely doomed because of tails and rotor becoming the main tech savvy guys later on.And archie destroyed her, it was already hard to reallocate such character but in archie she took the final blow with all the soap operas. I have no fucking idea how would you rework a post-apocalypse princess the correct way, that may explain why sega tries to memoryhole sally.
>>579318727The mask might be Starline's consciousness while Enigma gathers the supplies to grow himself a new body
I think the reason Idw does nothing is because they focus too much on abiding by the real world's laws. It's Sonic, you're allowed to write nonsense.
>>579319005I don't hate it but i dont love it. Its okay. My main issue is more just it looks kind of conservative. She looks like she works on a farm or something when Amy is supposed to be a city girl into street fashion.
>>579319574>amy conservative and amish10 children guaranteed.
>>579319119I dunno why people treat it as specifically memoryholling Sally when its memoryholling the American canon in general
>>579318751>The manga came out first so it gets the credit.Okay then, Rouge and Sticks are Archie characters.>>579318751>See also Cream from Sonic X.Wrong again! Sonic Mega Collection predates the first appearance of Sonic X.
>>579319845fuck off foxcel
>>579318751Anon game was in dev before manga
>>579319119If Sega were actively trying to "memoryhole" Sally, they wouldn't allow SatAM to be on streaming. Truth is Sega doesn't give two shits about Sally cause she was never in the games. She's worthless and unimportant.It's just a small group of obnoxious Archiefags who keep pushing for her.
why does this franchise make sonic obsess over princesses tho
>>579319894>They hated her because she spoke the truth.
>>579319845Original Sonic X pilot predates all of that.https://youtu.be/L7AqlIp5evA
>>579318907>"his lil eye makes him look cute???"Cover artist for 88. Though not the designer of this character, why they would put "he" on their studies if it wasn't a he.
>>579318051>before his Sonic Jam profile reinforced mint candy like in the Sonic 2 JP manual...Sky Patrol cam between those two things where the mint candies actually appeared in game.
>>579317293Prime isn't canon. It doesn't fit anywhere.
>>579320028Archie, he didn't ''obsess over'' elise.
>>579319005Nobody really likes it. Nobody really hates it either, but nobody really likes it.
>>579320131Not released publicly until much later, and the correct date is up in the air >>579212193
>>579320435"He" used to be unisex when it comes to monsters and inhuman creatures. It's only recent developments where we get the schizophrenic "they".Granted, given how squidface was already talking like a Schizo but you aren't supposed to encourage that.
The west treats every character better than the japs do, minus the male hedgehogs who the japs just want to make into saiyans
>>579320902Ian, your fanfic isn't treating them better
>>579320726>Not released publicly until much laterIrrelevant.>Correct date is up in the airNo it isn't. Sonic X gets the credit the same way the manga gets credit for Amy.
>>579320902Meanwhile in the west...
>>579321084Penders won in the end.
cnc
>>579320028It happened in Sonic X. Guess which episode
>>579321362aestheticslop
>>579321493aesthetic kino!
>>579321039>Irrelevant.No, it's perfectly relevant if we're going by RELEASES here.>No it isn't. Sonic X gets the credit the same way the manga gets credit for Amy.Nope, it's only notable insofar as it, like Advance 2, predates Heroes, which she was ALLEGEDLY (albeit questionably) made for; Mega Collection rarely gets brought up because the Japanese version (which added more bonus games to make up for the delay) released simultaneously with Advance 2.
I sharted
>>579306992It didn’t work out in the end for him anyhow lol
>>579320562Only in Japan at the time though.
why do westies keep obsessing over sally? she died 10 years ago
>>579321878So you are no longer disputing that the trailer for Sonic X came about first? Also lol at Yuji Naka claiming credit for creating Cream & Cheese.
>>579321039>No it isn't. Sonic X gets the credit the same way the manga gets credit for Amy.no it doesn't. Ohshima said Amy was always made for the games.Lucario is not a movie character that got included into the Pokémon game series. Things dont come from the thing they first appear it or else Sonic is a Dreams Come True character or Rad Mobile character.
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>>579320902>The west treats every character better than the japs do,Nah>minus the male hedgehogs who the japs just want to make into saiyansThat's the fandom that does this.
>>579322403>So you are no longer disputing that the trailer for Sonic X came about first?The first public trailer (i.e.the 'other' pilot') was shown off early 2003 - We had had no idea about the English-narrated pilot until it was included as a bonus feature in one of the DVD home-release volumes, and even then, the reported "2001" production year is most likely wrong since that conflicts with the known game development timeline (Advance 2/ Heroes started development in 2002).
>>579322205I mean that's just tantamount to saying that the west did nothing but fuck the series up from the beginning.
>>579322434>Wave>DD (E) CupWhatever you used to calc these is fucked, try again.
>>579322403Yuji Naka has stated that when he says "I" he means "Sonic Team" since he was made into the face of Sonic Team.
>>579318949I thought he based Shadow of this wall prophecy of Sonic.
>>579319919>Truth is Sega doesn't give two shits about Sally cause she was never in the games. She's worthless and unimportant.whisper and tangle
>>579316946Tangle gets namedropped in both EN and JP Frontiers and I'm pretty sure IDW is has been considered loosely canon for a while now
>>579322874I hope Sticks will appear in the comics
>>579320726Fi' studying sonic academically?
>>579323207That's always been fan speculation. Was never confirmed.
>>579323917Seems like the fans have thought a lot more about this than the actual creators.
Eggman's first appearance: the Sega TeraDrive software "Puzzle Construction" released on May 31st, 1991.
>>579323157>"He didn't mean it like that cause it invalidates my point"
>>579323534Why do you choose to hurt me?
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>>579318949How about you stop posting fanfics? Maria has no idea how Shadow was mad. She is saying that he shaw Shadow grow up, and suddenly he started to resemble a hedgehog over time. Shadow isn't black arms fully, he was made with hedhehog dna. That's why he is called shadow the HEDGEHOG
>>579324249>How about you stop posting fanficsWhere do you think you are?
>>579323236Whisper is the Avatar's stand-in so she has a weird game adjacent stench on her. They can't make an actual canon Avatar cause that would piss people off so she works in that capacity.You are right about them giving way more shit about Tangle than the female Ricky who was never in the games.
>>579324371>Whisper is the Avatar's stand-inCan we stop saying this? This was never true.
>>579322896That’s what 06 tried to do
>>579324249>Post screenshot from a game>"That is fanfic!"
>>579278601Sonic Channel used to say he likes nothing. Black coffee is a very recent change on Sonic ChannelUntil a few days ago it still said Shadow likes nothing https://web.archive.org/web/20260624120247/https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/character/shadow.html
>>579324002Not surprising. Sonic's inception wasn't to create a well rounded character with deep lore or a fanciful world. It was literally to give Mario the middle finger and nothing else. No thought was given to this series beyond how much market share and money Sega could rake in. That's still true today.
>>579324371>Whisper is the Avatar's stand-in so she has a weird game adjacent stench on herThe only stench she got is "shitty tumblrina OC" way more than tangle, at least tangke is not overdesigned and fits better with her powers than the fat wolf.
>>579323028I think they just did it to give Sonic a pal who'll tolerate his chili dog binges, though a sweet-tooth is always cuter.
>>579324647Don't reply to me ever again
I disagreeStart posting fanfics you like
>>579324945The thing is being part alien implies that he's also part earthling, For example an Hedgehog.
>>579324647Generations are the most fanfic games that aren't outright fangames.
>>579325038Exactly, I'm glad we agree
>>579307728God i wish
Tage
>>579324945So where does it state that the other part is hedgehog DNA? And why would Maria be surprised he turned out looking like a Hedgehog?
Potential the franchise, always "what could it be" but never "what is it".
>>579325227Sonic’s love for human women finally rubbed off on Tails.
Project Reignition comes out tomorrow
>>579325282She only knew he is part alien. She was surprised how sudden the transformation was and that's it
>>579325282Here's a better question, Why would it make sense for it not to be Hedgehog DNA? Considering that he looks like a fucking Hedgehog.As for Marias' surprise, just say she was partially in the dark about Project Shadows RND. Also Ians a shit writer
>>579321279how? none of that actually made it into the comic.
>>579324947Eggman hates Sonic because he ruins his plans and is an aberation, mathematically speaking, but he dislikes Tails because Tails, with his own genius, should sympathize with him and also want to take over the world to better lead it instead of leaving bozos in charge.
>>579325498>forced marriage with a hologram
Tails ^-^
>>579307728>>579308265>>579308325>>579325198The last Sonic game made by a japanese writer was Sonic Forced. If you think the problem with forces was the English translation you need to kill your self quickly, stupid windfags cocksuckers
>>579326010me trying to find who the fuck asked
>>579325730>poof
I thinks it's logical and fair to say that while the IDW staff clearly do not like Shadow, Sonic Team's self-contradictory mandates of him not caring about anything while also caring about being the ultimate life form is equally retarded. Iizuka is way too autistic about his little OC.
>>579326831IDW don't like men
>>579326881What does that have anything to do with what I-You know what I'm just going to go back to lurking. I should know better than to engage with this lot of autistic dumbfucks.
>>579326831Iizuka and Sonic Team don’t like or care about anyone besides Shadow and Sonic
>>579324649Why does the Japanese site STILL say that Dr. Eggman's real name is unknown?>this was taken from the 1st Sonic X eyecatch card, early on in the series>the 2nd Sonic X eyecard, shown during the SA2 arc, reveals Robotnik as his real name>his Sonic 4 EpII profile also lis his full name with question marks>but in the games, Robotnik has been stated to be Eggman's real name at least as early as rhe official Japanese Sonic Jam guide, Eggman is directly related to the Robotnik family (revealed in SA2) and in Frontiers Eggman outright saus that Eggman is a nickname that Sonic came up with (Naka's old suggestion)>outside the games, Eggman's Fast Friend Forever bio and TailsTube both say his real name is "Dr. Ivo Robotnik" in all regions>the movies are keeping the AOSTH/SA1dub idea of Eggman being Sonic's insult for Robotnik aliveI mean, yes, it paints the English SA1 dub as noncanon since he adopted the name Eggman WAY earlier (circa Sonic 1) but what's going on here? Is there someone on the Japanese side who REALLY hates the first name "Ivo"? Do they want to make up another name and have Ivo Robotnik be an alias too? What's the point? Very strange.
>>579325986>SO WHAT'LL IT BE?
>>579327098I personally get the impression that Sonic Team doesn't even care about Sonic anymore and instead only cares about Shadow
>>579326831I still chuckle about the fact that when the writers for Sonic Boom asked how they should use Shadow, Iizuka literally just told them to make him fight Sonic for no reason because he doesn't care about anything including the universe.Genuinely, how the fuck are you even supposed to use a character with mandates like that?
>>579327049It's simple answer to your issue that is connected to another issue, IDW staff could and must have some focus on Shadow to keep him less autistic, yet they don't, because like every other male they don't like them
>>579326831To give ST the benefit of the doubt, Shadow is the most successful of Sonic's shitty friends and wanting to protect that success makes sense from a business standpoint, especially if the people trying protecting that success don't fully understand why it was successful.
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I can tell you guys have your own definitions of "autism" that arent even related to the actual definition
>>579327401That could very well be true, but at least they still pretend to care about Sonic since they have to. Everyone else? Lmao
>>579327431>how the fuck are you even supposed to use a character with mandates like that?Basically as a one off DBZ Villain since even Vegeta had more dept.
>>579326831The people who work on IDW don't like Shadow BECAUSE of the mandates. Not the other way around. Unfortunately the people on here are too retarded to figure that out. I'd probably do the same exact shit IDW writers do with him just to spite ST's dumb bullshit surrounding him.Don't forget that the Sonic 3 movie Shadow was good in spite of the mandates, not because of them. Otherwise Shadow would have just been as retarded as he has been for the past decade.
>>579327658Just look at how seriously and cool Shadow has been portrayed even in this era when there's a bunch of woke Tumblrinas working on the comics. It still feels like Sonic himself hasn't regained his coolness that he used to have in the 2000s despite Frontiers, Shadow Generations, and the IDW comics.
>>579327648like people have definitions of fascism and incels that are not related to any of them.
>Shadow's only motivation is Maria and the past>No, you cannot bring up Maria or his past>Also he wants to prove himself better than Sonic and strong foes>But he also doesn't give a shit about anything>To the point where he doesn't even care if he diesLike....how do you even write a character with this shit without making him come across as a retard?
>>579327285My guess is they're going to update this when they finally update Eggman Nega to use his "real name" as an excuse to rename him, bizarre that Shadow was silently updated tho.
>>579327285Just a guess, but maybe it's because Gerald and Maria being Eggman's relatives is supposed to be a major plot point in SA2 and they don't want to spoil a ~25 year old game on a website.ST's kinda weird about things like this.
>>579328501NTA but you're probably right.
>>579328441>Dr. Ovi "Eggman Nega" Kintobor
>>579328393I actually want to see Iizuka write a modern Shadow story, If only to see how Shadow should be done.
Shadow liking coffee on Channel website is more important than sonic liking chili dogs lol
>>579328501This, the Sonic Channel profile of Light "Chip" Gaia does the same thing.
Anyone who says the manga is the best content in the franchise right now is a shit eating shill and should be made fun of. The manga is basically being co-written by ST staff themselves and they still get basic shit wrong like Chaos Control and how strong Sonic is. I dont believe there is a Sonic Bible because the people in charge of this fucking franchise seem to often forget what they, themselves wrote into it and established.TWO WORLDS btw.
>>579329464Calm down, Chris Hernandez.
>>579329298Glancing at the Sonic Channel, I think it's weird that it gives the Super Sonic form its own page, and says its only major appearances were in SA1, SA2, Heroes, 06 and Unleashed.
>>579329464You know that famous clip from Jontron?"WHAT THE FUCK IS A SONIC?"I think that's closer to reality than anyone in this fandom wants to admit.
>>579328836Wouldn't it still be Robotnik because he's his descendent from the future?
>>579329825I'm beyond sick and tired of nothing in this franchise making sense because no one knows what the fuck they're doing.Either let people work with the IP to make fun and differing interpretations or stick to your singular one and don't fuck it up. It's not hard.
