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Shiv Edition
>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=67625562344521860

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>579224087 (Cross-thread)
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I had a dream about being in the secret playtest Lash had a 5th ability a new one involving his gun like Haunted shot from streetbrawl and Mina couldn't stack bats anymore instead she got permanent health whenever she Lovebited someone items were way too different and mostly weaker. Investments were also changed so you were running around with only 1600 health some creeps had an random chance of blowing up and Guardians were able to move around and hide behind cover can any other dreamer anons help me find more stuff?
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>>579322034
traditionally, an archetypal carry scales very, very well with gold, capable of putting out an incredible amount of sustained DPS once they get their items. they tend to have a fragile and weak early game. carries never fall off; the longer the game goes, the more threatening they become
carry as a role is distinct from carrying as a verb. you can carry a match from any position technically, to carry a match is to have a dominant positive impact on the direction of the game. supports for example can carry by making good calls, tard wrangling, and god-tier application of utility
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GUYSSS VENATOR IS SO HONEST AM I RIGHT HAHAHAA HES SO FUCKING HONEST HOLY SHIT HES SO BAD MAYBE IF I KEEP REPEATING IT IT WILL BECOME TRUE HAHAHA
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Unlocking new characters for ranked is actually a frustrating experience. If I was new to this game I would have uninstalled already.
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lmao i found the silverposter on reddit. This nigga is actually a top 1% redditor, that's the retard who spends his entire day downplaying silver and saying stats are the only things that matter all day in these threads (and in reddit, from the looks of it). what a fucking weirdo
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Silver buffs will be a huge part of September update
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>>579323772
what's stopping you from just playing whoever you want in normals? (if you were a new player)
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>>579323793
talking about shiv makes his argument worse why would he even bring him up
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>>579323793
this retard is spamming about silver anywhere he can jesus
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>>579323793
>Silver up-player exposing himself as a literal redditor
The jokes make themselves.
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>>579323935
ranked games use stricter matchmaking and are infinitely more playable than standard matches as a result is what he is saying. that standard fucking suuuuuuucks but you have to play it to unlock characters for the actually-playable mode
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>>579324235
>>579324170
Wow would you look at that by searching his username it turns out he's also one of the biggest contributors to the overwatch subreddit
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What do you do when the enemy keeps invading your side of the jungle to focus you and no one on your team helps at all?
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>>579324438
Okay bro we get it you use reddit, can you please stay there
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>>579324241
>ranked games use stricter matchmaking and are infinitely more playable than standard matches
That's a lie, you know
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if you think shiv is good or op you are retarded and should genuinely stop playing pisslow retards are exposing themselves for no reason
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>>579324438
You need to go back
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>>579324754
He's not fun to fight against but I wouldn't say he's OP or anything
Definitely the weakest frontliner right now, requires way too much effort. Why bother when you can just pick mo and stat check everyone.
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>>579324532
>>579324789
Clearly i don't use it anywhere as much as the silverposter. This is the guy posting about how only winrates matter, constantly obcessing about vegas and downplaying silver every thread btw. This is the kind of schizophrenic that we're dealing with
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>>579324541
which part
objectively it does use stricter matchmaking in every definition of the word. like the fact that it's solo/duo alone is a massive improvement over standard
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>>579325001
Okay
Not your personal blog
Please keep your reddit drama session to reddit
This may surprise you redditor but no one cares
Silver WILL be getting buffs though, enjoy
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Sinclair doesn't need a kit rework.
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>>579325001
just leave the silvertard alone you won't beat him stop giving him attention and he's going to kill himself out of depression sooner or later
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>>579325265
Yeah he needs to be removed from the game completely only hotpoo can come up with such characters
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>>579325204
Shouldn't you be going back? They seem very receptive to your posts there. You're probably better off among retards like you.
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>>579325385
Why is hopoo the scapegoat for every design you guys don't like?
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>silver upplayers prove that they are not only redditors but also retards that think every poster disagreeing with them are the same poster
Color me shocked.
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Anyone else here have that situation where they feel like they did a cool thing only to look back at footage/replay and it was the mundane shit in the world
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>>579325742
Its such a insane self expose that I'm struggling to believe its real
Has to be some falseflag
No one is THAT retarded
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>>579325265
I’m wondering how her animations will look since her human form is just 80% Sevens
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>>579325598
Because every character he gets his hands on are completely broken he clearly doesn't know how to create one they only get somewhat fixed after release and even then they're still bullshit
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>>579325935
If he thinks silver is op or ever has been op, yes, he is that retarded.
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>>579325742
Try to deflect all you want, >>579323793 is genuinely exactly 1:1 the exact same post patterns you spam on this thread all day. I know you're embarassed you got found out
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>>579326129
Why are you on reddit in the first place dude
Answer the question
Why
Are
You
On
Reddit?
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>>579326212
Why are YOU on reddit? As a top 1% poster no less. How embarassing. And you also spam that garbage here all day. Do you legitimately have nothing else better to do with your life other than schizopost about a video game character all day? On multiple sites? Its so sad
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>>579326129
It's not even remotely similar unless you think using broadly similar arguments is 1:1 in which case you're even more retarded than I thought.
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every other game gets leaks but us
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>silver upplayers are redditors
Explains why they are so annoying and retarded.
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>>579326592
It was just proved that the Silverschizo is a top 1% redditor though?
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>>579326019
I want whoever thought bats should be more than 1 iframe dead
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Is Tankbuster a meme on Doorman even if he’s an Ambush Spirit Nuker? Out of anyone I feel like he’d get some use out of it but it’s also some hot ass in most circumstances outside of initiation, I just see so many builds for him having it
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>>579326019
Victor and Paige are balanced however
The rest are OP as fuck so I admit 2/7 not being gamebreaking isn't exactly amazing either.
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>>579326579
We used to but Valves been uppidity on leaks ever since the Half Life 2 FBI (or CIA? I don’t remember) sting, second the Patron changes were leaked a couple months before they dropped is when the Deadlock leaks basically ceased to exist, idk their system but it must be pretty solid
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>>579327104
My guess is that they cut everyone who wasn't being PAID for testing since if you have money on the line you're less likely to leak shit and risk your job.
Inviting ecelebs was always a bad idea and the uncle dane leaking deadlock is proof of that lmao
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>>579324441
Why is no one responding
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>>579326741
Also whoever made the recast duration longer than slowing hex so his precious pet character has even less counter play.
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Deranking!
8 defeat in a row!
Im having fun!
Thank you Yoshi for this amazing MM update!
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>>579327307
It was a bit strange they ever had people outside the company to be testers, with how controlling and weirdly aggressive Valve usually is with their in-house ideals this was outside their comfort zone, got proven right almost immediately too
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Realized I belonged in pisslow when I was flabergasted at Silver adjusting my position with the divekick. 400 hours and I did not know that bitch could do that
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>>579327104
> second the Patron changes were leaked a couple months before they dropped is when the Deadlock leaks basically ceased to exist
IIRC they revoked everyone's access from the test server, made sure none of the new testers are ecelebs or streamers AND Probably made them sign NDA
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>>579327375
Because that’s a normal situation with every MOBA and there isn’t actually a grand mends-all explanation to cure that, you’re either fucked or you do your best to farm around it
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>>579327472
Why are you playing ranked? It's for trannies
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>>579325801
>enemy Silver running urn
>use Knockdown on her to forcibly drop the urn
>hit her with a ~50m max range swap to trade places
>throw up a Time Wall to stagger any bullets/bolas while i channel urn pickup (old urn)
>run that bitch to the drop-off for a nice bounty
>Enemy Bebop has joined the fray
>hooks me straight into a 1v2
>give em the Echo Shart Bombadox special
>they foolishly take the fight and eat the full brunt of it
>rack up two free kills and walk away 5.6k richer
it was sloppy, ugly, and mechanically unimpressive, but damn did it feel cool
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IM GONNA KILL MYSELF IM GONNA KILL MYSELF IM GONNA KILL MYSELF IM GONNA KILL MYSELF
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>need 2k to go up to phantom
what a retarded nigger game
does this faggot yoshi really expect me to play for 8 hours a day to get to eternus
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>>579327630
bizarre they let Streamers and Ecelebs in the first place considering those people thrive on attention and unique content, like letting a drug addict into the back of a pharmacy
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>>579327630
>>579328093
What are we beta testing when we aren't even testing the stuff actually being developed
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>>579328093
Did leaks like this ever happen in dota? Or were the russians autistic enough to not spill their spaghetti for twitter views
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>>579327876
Feeling cool is the best part of any game really
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>>579327953
It's just standard at least.
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>>579323793
silver downplayers in the past have been comical cartoons, but in this patch the hero is genuinely unfun to pick up and raped by DLNS
sure not the worst hero in the game by any means but to do good requires you to be insanely better than everyone else in the lobby. Hero is just unfun to play in current iteration with a 38% wr and <10% pickrate in high elo
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>>579326880
tankbuster is a charge-based item which means you always get at least partial benefit on every single eligible spell hit
it is a good item. something like 10-15% of your damage output will be tankbuster
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>>579328184
Once the player count soared there was basically no reason to consider Deadlock actually part of the play testing as is, only reason it hasn’t become open beta is probably because that one step of adding someone to your friends list is too much for a weird majority of people and Valve couldn’t give less of a shit
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>>579328437
>sure not the worst hero in the game by any means
Name a hero that is bad as her with those stats
She is objectively the worst hero in the game
Even heroes like Paige are at least good in low elo as training wheels
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I think I'm starting to like Paradox
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Lately every Infernus lane mate is a fucking retard that can't use their free dps gun
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>>579328287
I CANT PLAY RANKED YET, THATS THE PROBLEM.

Holy fuck seriously what kind of retard designed a ranked system where you NEED 15 wins with 3 fucking characters in a mode where they allow pre-mades of 6 autistic neets, so that means if you play soloQ good luck buddy you will get raped in the ass over and over by these base dwellers that play this game 24/7 while your teams is made by 3 slav retards screeching his ork language, 1 kid, me (another retard) and 1 random dude (he is chill at least)
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>>579326741
>>579327463
Just shoot her lol, she is made of paper
Oh you can't because you are trying to spiritslopmax
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>>579327953
Chill it's not ranked
>rushes magic carpet
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borgor
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>>579329167
SEE
>>579328781
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>>579328209
Russians absolutely leaked it but only in their own forums and no one (sane) from the west is going trouncing through some 40 people using at once maximum website using Tetris block language hoping to find some insider info
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>>579327992
high ranks are for streamers and poopsockers
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>>579328459
Heard mixed accounts on the usefulness of Tankbuster so that’s why I asked, yeah the nerf was a good bat to the knees but I can’t help but feel it’s still somewhat a decent item depending on the character
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>>579330063
i think this thread has one or more hyperautists who have an irrational hatred of it and several other useful items (and also a few justifiably dogshit ones)
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Does cursed relic interrupt all ultimates?
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>mina with no dispel
>im the only one with slowing hex
you have to be that guy and tell everyone exactly what to do and what to buy every single game or you lose
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>>579330063
>>579330356
Every item hated here is usually actually good, use critical thinking.
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>>579331151
>every _____ hated here is actually good
I agree
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>>579330979
It doesn't but cursing Celeste really should delete the ball.
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>>579328684
a hero being bad means the skill ceiling on the hero is very low compared to other heroes
a really good silver can still snowball and dominate a lobby with high agency, however, you just need insane movement, aim, and macro (not applicable to non-smurfs). Graves is the worst hero in the game because no matter what your skill in these areas are, you still need your team to carry your ass because her base number stats are so bad in DPS, HP, and stamina. Silver feels really bad because she is insanely hard to play
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Why is mo allowed to travel at mach 5 speed across the map?
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>>579325801
>kill/shutdown 4 ults as Doorman and win the game for team
>watch my gameplay
>old man with Parkinsons aim combo’d with lucky circumstance
My dumbass was gonna make a webm just to show off before I saw that
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>>579327463
same with pocket. literally doesn't even need to buy dispel. retarded.
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>>579331937
Take care of em Maurice
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>>579331937
It's faster to travel through their tunnels than the road.
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>>579331548
well that's a question. if you divine barrier someone while they have the ball on them does it remove it?
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>>579331794
>a really good silver can still snowball and dominate a lobby with high agency
You can say that with any hero though, fuck you could make gun kelvin work if you get 10 kills in lane
This mythical 'high elo silver that makes her look busted' straight up doesn't exist
Silver sucks in low, middle and high mmrs, and infact the data shows she's even worse the higher you go
But continue to downplay graves bro as if her wall isn't one of the strongest abilities in the game.
Like how low do these numbers need to be for you to admit she's the worst hero in the game. 30%? 20%? She is the worst hero in the game by a whole 10% winrate while sporting the worst pickrate, previously replacing SINCLAIR of all heroes who is literally a unfinished WIP mess
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>>579325801
I know well my gameplay looks like shit but it still feels good when I win a fight for the team.
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>>579328184
>What are we beta testing
We’re really not at this point.
If anything were “Soak Testing”
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>>579331937
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awooo~
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>>579332914
All connected to fairfax
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>>579332914
not sure how dynamo ties into it but I know the rest
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why does lash deal better gun damage than venator?
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>>579326740
>proven
This fucking guy
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>>579333149
Dynamo is Pocket's godfather if I recall
No other relation the rest of the heroes
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>>579333182
Because le gun scale abilities
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>>579331937
>Celeste abusing cornerboosts and schoovement "tech" to zoom around the map for immense cost of zero stamina
>"fuark doooood yasssss"
>honest Maurige & Grill using their max rank ability to slide across gm_flatgrass while being cockblocked by a single ankle-high barrier
>"ERRRMMMM HELLO???? YOSHI RESOURCES????"
GET HIM MAURICE
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>>579333182
because lash is busted
I'm so tired of the fliers meta we've been here for a long time now
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>>579333097
probably Pocket in particular unless M&K also know Fairfax
>Calico shot Pocket
>McG worked for their dad
>is Pocket
>Timon/Pumba style adopted Pocket
>Pocket's godfather
>Pocket's fiance
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>>579332914
MnK is related to Fairfax? How even.
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>>579331794
Silver has low skill ceiling and high skill floor
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>>579333182
His gun is 3 burst hot ass and his entire kit doesn’t compliment it so it has decent damage to make up for it
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how do I do damage on Ivy?
I show up to fights, I throw shit, I shoot lightning bullets
I don't do damage. I do more damage playing Rem somehow
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why does a light melee from rem's pillow or a heavy melee from his little fluffy feet do as much damage as bebops spiky giant metal ball hand
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>>579333419
Gave Pocket a Dagwood Sandwich once
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>Can’t enjoy ranked because I only got 3 characters unlocked and most of the matches are obvious one sided stomps (I am the one that gets stomped of course)
>Can’t enjoy standard because it’s full of high rank sweats (still getting stomped)
Man, previous MM system was much better than this bullshit
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>>579333742
>lash's gun is hot ass

no
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game sucks no cap, and what makes it worse is you cant expect an update for another month after sparse updates for an entire year. oh and also every single update was dogshit that made things progressively worse, sometimes without fixing any of the original problems they originally set out to fix
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I turn off voice and go into standard on the weekends to do whatever the fuck I want
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>>579333947
If we scaled melee properly based on characters there’d be some hard discrepancies, if anything Viscous would be the most dangerous melee character as having a wall of flubber smash a comically sized fist against you would probably do more damage than anything Abrams or Billy could dish out
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>>579333182
Spammable +7 weapon damage. Flat damage is really good since weapon investment increases you damage by %.
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>>579334148
burst vs the automatic is a huge difference



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