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Previous thread: >>579147328

>Latest News/Updates

Darktide:
Patch 1.12.5 - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-12-5-patch-notes/124954
Kuli's guides for beginners:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210

Aliens: Fireteam Elite 2 is officially out:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3448650/Aliens_Fireteam_Elite_2/

>Acknowledged but barely discussed :
Left4Dead
Deep Rock Galactic
Killing Floor
Payday
Earth Defense Force
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
Barotrauma
No More Room in Hell 2
Vermintide

and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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True Grit?
More like True Shit!
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Reminder for anyone that wasn't there last thread, that any concern trolling is bound to be the 19-hour-meltie ratjeet ban evading.
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>>579343995
What a pathetic, embarrassing, browncel freak
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>>579344348
doakes.jpg
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>>579343656
skitarii is the autoplay class in auric. just walk forward and automatically spam tranny blade combo while looking around and tagging shit for noosy

if a large crowd is coming just stand there and spam charged plasma expuLOOOOZHON

keep everything in melee range perma stunned with the sparkies off your blades
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>>579343995
I just do not get these people.
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>>579341504
you, for not recognizing the glorious feat of the true gods' champion and denouncing the false rot-god king
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>>579345098
Skitarii is lame and gay honestly. There I said it.
I bought the DLC and all I can say about it is "Eh?", spent 1 whole kebab on it too.

Like if this is the state of DLC classes going forward I'd rather just have the occasional free map instead of this. Fuck, if they NEED a DLC just make a weapon pack that contains weapons usable by all classes instead.
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>Sextus-Minoris-105!!!
>BRING
>HIM
>DOWN!
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Doornail that FREAK
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>>579346042
when the stars align and I get an og 4 class team comp it's almost always a ballin time. almost like the game was designed around them
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>>579345897
>*PFSSSSSSSSSCHT!*
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>>579345837
>people
I wouldn't go so far as to call him that.
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>my webm for retards doesn't work anymore
Can't be fucked to find it and redownload that stuff right now, so for the anon who was asking for NMRIH2 webms, here're some clips instead. I really like explosives if yo ucouldn't tell. Haven't had a game where we had a good melee stack going, but I've only been dicking around on Hard where supplies are a lot more common..
https://streamable.com/de9i1v
https://streamable.com/9p29fq
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>>579346446
Frankly, it's a good reminder of what being sane is like; even on a crap website such as this.
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>>579346560
>the anon who was asking for NMRIH2 webms,
Hi that was me. Thanks for going through the effort of recording these. Clips are fine too.
The staircase one looked really cool. Seeing this also reminds me of how much video game melee animations piss me off with their heavy swings.
>uhhh let me just
>*nearly stands still*
>let me JUST
>*slowly raises weapon*
>ONE SECOND
>*it's at about ear height now*
>I'LL
>*just above the head*
>JUST.. ONE MOMENT
>HUURRRGH!
>*wind-up finishes*
>*swings*
It's so verisimilitude breaking, considering how the actual risk/reward of committing to a heavy swing in real life is the momentum of the backswing completely fucking your balance if you miss.
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>>579346894
Yeah the NMRIH games have really slow melee. I ended up liking it after a bit in NMRIH1 since you're juggling things like spacing, openings, the time of your attacks and stamina, which keeps melee fairly fun and challenging rather than a hack and slash. But it's definitely not realistic. You can also sort of counteract how slow charging and holding heavy swings make your movement by jumping directionally.
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>>579346560
it's called webm for lazys now
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>>579347473
Ah, thanks
>inb4 "retards" was too offensive for thinskinned faggots, and that's why the name changed
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>>579347546
I think it was because github didn't like the name.
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>>579347546
That is almost certainly what happened.
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I just did 9 solo knife runs of uprising event missions on the south africa server
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>>579346446
Bro thought he was some kind of brilliant machiavellian type sowing seeds of distrust and creating a civil war in /coopg/

He just revealed that the tide animosity was all fake bullshit forced by mentally ill retards
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Would (You) play a multiplayer cooperative Ace Combat-like/flight simulator 40k game?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxnl1QUcnaU [Open]
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>>579347473
Isn't Webm for Bakas a thing too?
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>>579347869
>the tide animosity was all fake bullshit forced by mentally ill retards
Yes to mentally ill retards. No to ratfag hate being forced. That shit is organic and caused by posters like picrel.
You can imagine what the spoilered text says.
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>>579348216
I won't deny that the rat trannies are real, but they are the exact same types, perhaps even the same people, as the darktide trannies who also show up directly after every major darktide update
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>>579348749
Well if nothing else, I'm sure they have an IQ range in common. Also add the kind of retard that instantly has a major tantrum whenever havoc is mentioned, as if you can't just ignore havoc existing and continue playing casually. Or recognize that havoc might as well be a different game and enjoy both for their own merits.
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>>579348749
it's not multiple people its one (1) nigger
and it's you
kill yourself
stop shitting up the thread
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>>579348216
>Kerillian blows rat assholes like Balloons
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>>579348893
I pretty much ignore that kind of sperging, are they whining about the game supposedly being balanced around havoc?
>>579348925
Retarded schizo
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>>579348216
>its not the jeets fault you see we here at copeg hate ratclick because one autist posted cringe THREE YEARS AGO
Everyone sees you samefagging half the fucking posts in the thread
This general is completely unusable, the ratio of autistic bait and screeching to actually playing games with people is 999:1 because one retard decided to shit it up
Range ban india NOW
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>>579349620
So you're the ratjeet, then? Yeah? Because that's the exact topic that caused ratjeet to have a major fucking meltie. Incredible how trivial it is to trigger you.
>>579349604
>are they whining about the game supposedly being balanced around havoc?
No it's just general butthurt about havoc even existing. What you mentioned is part of it, but the crux is usually being bad and upset at never being a true survivor. There's a whole category of shitposter that just shits up any discussion pertaining specifically to auric and tries to stir shit by going
>lol who cares about auric that's not even the real difficulty
to false flag havoc players being needlessly hostile, presumably because he got really, really emotionally hurt when he tried to butt into havoc discussion and got told off for having obviously retarded opinions.
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>go look up Webm for Lazys
>github download is some bullshit with no program executable
Well it's not very good for lazy people, nor is it retard-proof anymore is it? Guess that stopped when it became politically correct. I'm sure there're other forks that are fine, but I don't care enough to bother further with this
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>>579350161
>he doesn't know how to use github
Looks like changing the name away from "for retards" was the right move after all, seeing as it filtered a retard.
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>vermintide gets major update
Trannies post about rat rape and gay rat porn
>darktide gets major update
Trannies post about 40k related rape and skitarii femboys

The problem is mentally ill porn-addicted trannies, not vermintide or darktide
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>>579350238
>download link leads to a page where both files are the same source code shit just compressed differently
>hur dur you used github wrong
Blow it out your ass. I'm not the one telling people my source code is the distribution files.
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>>579350389
ugh the skitarii femboy shit was annoying, I had forgotten about that little arc
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>>579350519
>downloads the source code like a retard
>complains about a lack of compiled *.exe file for his retarded ass to run
Anon the retarded one is still you.
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter/releases/download/3.42.0/WebMConverter-3.42.0.zip
Here, click this one. It has an *.exe in it.
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I started Darktide with a friend but he's not coming on. I NEED TO FINISH THE EVENT AHH IT'S TOO MUCH RESOURCES
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>>579350905
That's the previous version that the "download this here" link does not link to, you insufferable faggot. It links here. Yes, I could've spent an extra 30 seconds going back to the github page, ignoring that link, and navigating to the release list on my own to download a previous build. That doesn't change the truth that his shit links to a build that is worthless for normal users here:
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter/releases/tag/3.43.0
Quit being a disingenuous nigger and pretending like this guy didn't upload and link people to a version without an equivalent to that file.
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>>579351161
I got about an hour to kill before fucking off for the havoc reset. Post a code, that's at least 2-4 games we can play.
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>>579351243
Where's the ambiguity, exactly? Is it that you can't read or something? You clicked the source code download, which downloaded the source code, and got you, surprise surprise, the source code.
I swear you're the caliber of retard that causes microwave manuals to be 20 pages of "don't do the obvious thing, retard" before having a single shred of useful information.
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>>579351286
>havoc
That's like a million difficulties higher than I am, sir.
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>>579351763
That's why I said I plan on fucking off when the reset rolls around.
We can play whatever difficulty until then, Idc.
>ESC, Social, press [E] Find Player, click the friend code on the left to copy it, paste it here
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>>579351763
Yeah he's saying he'll play with you on your difficulty till he can go do the fresh havoc stuff
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>>579351472
>you can't read
Highly ironic given that you've consistently ignored everything of substance that I've said.
When I search up "Webm for Lazys" this is the first page that appears:
https://argorar.github.io/WebMConverter/
There's an emboldened "download it here" that links to the page I posted. The only thing there is the source code.
>You clicked the source code download
Which was the only option available, you illiterate retard, and it wouldn't have been the first time someone's "source code" upload was perfectly serviceable for users as well, either because it was mistitled or because they simply included everything. If you try to deny that, you're just blatantly shitposting.

>nonono, it was your fault you didn't ignore the link intended for users and go to the releases page to download a past release instead!
Okay. I will maintain that github faggots are perpetually retarded individuals that have no idea how to make things convenient or straightforward for normal people.
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>>579351976
Okay, sure.

5327917729
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>>579351976
>>579352164
>/coopg/ playing games together
You love to see it. I wish I wasn't busy, I'd come along too.
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>>579350389
nope, the problem is the subhuman nigger vermintideposters
it's not both sides you fucking worthless piece of trash
can't wait to see all of your posts removed again kek
please fucking kill yourself, you're fucking pathetic and nobody likes you either here nor in real life
retarded izzat net-negative loser
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>>579351243
I was going to call you a retarded nigger but after checking yeah you're actually entirely correct. It looks like he did fuck up the most recent release assets and didn't include a build.

In any case, iirc the program has an updater built in so you should be able to just download an older version and hit update when you run it
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>>579354512
kek. To be fair, it's not like it's that much work to grab a past build. I just got frustrated and had no interest in re-opening the window I'd already closed to check to see if past builds had proper releases and instead wanted to bitch about it.
>iirc the program has an updater built in so you should be able to just download an older version and hit update
I'm sure I'll end up doing that later, thanks.
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you can eat them.
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>>579356873
=] [=
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>>579356978
>4chan deletes extra spaces
Fucking forgot about this shit. Post ruined 'cause I think they removed the alt+255 shit for easy triforce posting ages ago too.
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>>579356873
>>579356978
is this goatse
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>>579357168
That is what I was trying to go for
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>>579354198
Too obvious. Only one person is retarded and brown enough to post like you
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>>579356978
=]○[=
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>>579356978
Carry on, faithful
>>579357710
DIE, blasphemer
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>>579356871
>t. Bile troll
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>>579356871
I don't quite get the hype for this movie it was mid as fuck
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>>579360337
>mid
woah there unc, that's some language that's well outside your dusty ass lexicon
shouldn't you have said "lame" or something
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>>579360656
it's not rad, back in my days our horror movies were more tubulars
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Any of the shotgun perks really not worth taking on a shotgun build?
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>>579360337
Yeah it was serviceable the main star was obviously the setting itself but the characters used as a vehicle were whatever. Really surprising it was so successful though.
>>579359154
I really wish we got more varieties of them
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>>579360860
lol I was wondering what the fuck happened
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>>579360860
Why didn't they save you?
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>>579361940
Well, I meant to post this elsewhere, but this works. I'm talking about NMRIH2
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>>579346126
>Sextus-Minoris
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jViMvbGX6RQ
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>>579363645
wow it's useless
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Does hive scum have any toughness damage reduction besides their custom stim? I've been wondering why I've been getting hit harder than when I'm playing ogryn
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>>579364982
Because Hive Scum is a fragile class that relies on dodging and constant movement to not die.

If you're playing him like a Vet or a Zealot, you'll crumple.
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>>579364982
Hive City Brawler for upto 20% damage reduction (stamina depending)
Rampage skill, for 25% DR
Calling for a Time Out, 25% TDR for 4 sec on reload (only useful on certain builds)
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>>579365380
>Calling for a Time Out, 25% TDR for 4 sec on reload
Bring a combat shotgun and juggle reloads (^:
Unironically not a bad idea. The slug shotgun is a perfectly decent gun, and even viable in h40. At its very worst, It's like a slightly worse bolt pistol. At its best it actually has some of the highest boss DPS on vet, but that is not actually practical or realistic most of the time and requires a lot of setup, but it technically can be downright excellent under the right circumstances.
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>>579363054
Oh, good point about crouching. I've spent like 18-20k rerolling and still haven't seen the increased range one.
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ratclickfags make darktidefags seem like decent players
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>>579366513
Gonna troon out again?
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>>579366513
Ratclick bots make darktide players look like paraplegics
Granted to do darktide bots sometimes, but it's funnier to meme it this way
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>>579366697
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>>579366859
>>579366697
>Monsters & Memories is a subscription-based, massively multiplayer online roleplaying game (MMORPG)
Not gonna bother reading any further
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Been playing Zombie Army 4: Dead War with some friends since it cost less than a gallon of gas last week. Been having a fun time with it.
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>>579366859
>sub
>runescape tier graphics
are you retarded
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Have a couple more clips for you, anon. This time with some of that slow-ass melee. The Fire Axe (and Sledgehammer) is extremely satisfying though
https://streamable.com/g20bmf
https://streamable.com/qrsxi0
https://streamable.com/j578ah
By the way, if you do get the game, or if anyone newer watches these, don't do what I do and melee until your stamina is super low/empty. If you get grabbed like that, it's a guaranteed infection via bite. I'm just retarded and get carried away easily
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>>579367697
>second clip
>crank wheel
>gently pets it
>suddenly needs to melee a zed
>crank again
>the animation unceremoniously breaks and refuses to even play
>check steam page
>no early access badge
>from devs that are anything but green, considering they made fucking chivalry which more or less popularized an entire genre yes, Chivalry is technically older than Mount & Blade
fucking lmao
At least the gore and ragdolls are fun, but this looks janky in a kind of sad and underbaked way.
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>>579366223
It's great with yon double barrel
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>>579368369
Yeah but DB isn't all that good without Desperado. It IS very good WITH Desperado in auric specifically. Never used or seen it in h40 and I doubt I ever will considering just how much stronger melee scum is anyway.
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>>579368556
If you can swing the points by to get the +1 ammo in the magazine, I find it to be a really good side-arm for any build that takes blinders, since it explodes hordes with manstopper for easy stacks to regen them.
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>>579368556
>>579368648
*For aurics I meant to say, idk about havoc.
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Question
Does the curio toughness regeneration speed perk stack with Zealot's Enemies Within Enemies Without and Restorative Verses talents?
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>>579368648
>>579368776
That's cute tech but it seems silly compared to just cutting their heads off and getting the same effect. It's certainly functional without Desperado but I really don't think it'll ever compare to the slug combat shotgun on non-Desperado builds, if we're still assuming weapons that can juggle Calling for a Time Out.
I think I've spent about equal time using both across different classes, and supported DB felt decent on vet (back during the Untranny Strike abuse days) and quite good on scum, but the combat shotgun is just a workhorse that simply gets shit done. This assumes you treat it like an elephant gun and almost exclusively fire special shells. Emptying the mag is only for killing trains of specialists or spamming into gunners until they're suppressed or dead.
Zealot is my favorite class to use the combat shotgun on, as a replacement to the bolt pistol, because it lets me sprint and slide uninterrupted while reloading, unlike the bistol. Veteran is certainly the strongest user. I ironically just had a h40 with a stealth meme vet sniping shit with the combat shotgun, no smokes, no bubble, no problem. I think we had only 2 downs total, even if things got a little sketchy at times.
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>>579369170
"Toughness Regeneration Speed" (the curio perk) EXCLUSIVELY works on coherency toughness regeneration.
It reduces the time it takes for coherency regen to kick in, and it increases the rate at which it regenerates. It is basically a completely dead dogshit stat because it never works when you actually need it, and doesn't interact with your talents in any meaningful way.
The only class it's actually meta on, is skitarius, which has an aura that supercharges it to really strong levels.
The only other class that should even consider using it is ogryn, if you're bad, and new, and still struggling with trash shooters for some reason. Mind you, it's training wheels. You'll never go fast with training wheels, but they'll get you there when you're still learning to cycle.
Technically there's probably a memeworthy setup with everyone running max coherency toughnes regen in a party of 3 arbitrators with dogs, for a total coherency pool of SEVEN, and then bring a skit with that aura.

The stat you are looking for is called "Toughness Replenishment", and I'm not sure how many sources even exist. The only one I can think of from the top of my head is Stay Close! (yellow node in ogryn tree)
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>>579369170
No. Curio Toughness Regeneration Speed only applies to Coherency Toughness Regen. It also has the side effect of reducing the time it takes for Coherency Toughness Regen to start up.
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>>579369514
Fug.
Thought i was cooking there for a second...
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>>579364982
more scum questions, does combat ability regeneration effect the custom stim?
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>>579368319
Yeah the interact animations often break
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>>579369776
I think most of your questions will be answered by the kuli guides in the OP.
But to answer your question directly, no. The only ways to reduce the cooldown of your stimm, are running less viscosity, and getting kills with Sample Collector (dead center above the aura)
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>>579369715
Yah, it reads as something much better than it really is.
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Fatshark seems even more quiet than usual... maybe skittle didnt sell that good...
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>insane difficulty
>there's a duelist
>he's bringing Plus Ultra because he wants his abilities to cooldown in 4s, and thinks all of the enemies moving like crackheads and the whole team having worse ammo economy won't be a problem
if a sloptuber is responsible for me seeing this same fucking pick over and over I will kill them (in minecraft)
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>>579369201
>That's cute tech but it seems silly compared to just cutting their heads off and getting the same effect.
but... 'tis sick as fuck though, milord.
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>>579368319
this feels a little too nitpicky but who am I to judge
game is still fun nevertheless
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>>579370252

let them cook
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>>579370252
It gave us the highest boost in player numbers since launch I doubt that
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>>579370551
>this feels a little too nitpicky
No it feels exactly like a half life mod, or garrysmod gamemode. And I acknowledge they literally started out as that. I ain't paying money for that level of jank though.
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>>579367067
>>579367237
>>579367445
Forgot everyone on here is a turd worlder who can’t afford $15/month
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>>579371346
My time is valuable enough as is, I'm not paying money for the privilege of having MMORPG slop sap my time, nigger.
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>>579371346
paying a sub in 2026 is retard behavior, unless that game is coming out with content every WEEK and that pacing will kill the company through employee burnout
and lets not forget that mmos are a dead genre too, youre not moving into an established and entrenched ecosystem with a sub when your biggest competitors with subs have infinitely more content being wow or ffxiv, or theyre free; and then theres no actual draw for people to even try the game that requires a lot of people to function either because of the entry fee for a early access project due to numerous ea mmo failures and scams which results in ded gaem even if it was good because it would not generate enough word of mouth advertisements
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I pay for WoW and i paid for an additional WoW account to get the recruit-a-friend rewards
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>>579373113
Retarded if true.
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>>579373178
As true as the ocean is blue
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>>579373113
why not just have a friend do it?
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>>579373394
Friend?
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>>579373394
>friends
>in coopg
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>>579373312
You really need to kill yourself, and I mean it, not the usual "haha le 4chan kill yourself" I really believe you're a subhuman loser.
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>>579370736
Tencent be looking at Skitty release and be like
>ZAMN!
>IS THAT A 0.002% INCREASE IN QUARTERLY EARNINGS???
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>>579373567
I got your entire net worth on my wrist
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>>579373712
How do you respond to this without sounding poor and mad?
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>>579373962
*fart* NIGGER! :D
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>>579373962
That's a nice watch.
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>>579373394
a what?
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>>579374095
God you're so wise...
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>>579373962
How did my cum taste?
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>>579373962
That watch would be mighty snug around my cock
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>>579373962
Dude you shot an innocent dead...
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>>579375074
not his fault though
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>>579375621
always assume a weapon is loaded + weaposn are not toys
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>>579375674
why would there be a loaded gun in a movie set?
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>>579375742
always assume a weapon is loaded + weaposn are not toys
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>>579375742
So he could murder that bitch
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>>579375787
>Minor spelling mistake
I wonned
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>>579375074
>innocent
>foid
hmmmmmm
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>>579375742
IIRC the person in charge of the guns was either high or drunk the night before and left a real bullet in it after shooting for fun
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>>579375908
M..MASAKA!!!
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>>579373113
I played Turtle for a year, and now I'm on Octa. Fuck giving them money for ruining WoW
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>>579373113
>>579376465
>mfw I was playing ascension
I considered buying midnight but honestly fuck blizzard, nothing they'll ever do with the game will be half as fun as conquest of azeroth
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>>579376694
I haven't touched Wow or Blizzard since the Bobby fiasco and slew of lawsuits.

Still bs how he got to walk away.
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>>579376694
I came back to play some CoA. Riftblade on Runemaster really fucking cool. I've always want arcane/elemental swordsman classes, and being that with a two-hander was rad.
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>>579347546
>>579347821
"for lazys" is a fork from another dev who isn't even a 4channer
Original can still be found at gitgud, but it hasn't been updated in 9 years
Webm For Retards still exists on gitgud
https://gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter
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>>579372627
truth
>>579373113
it’s not too late for you dude just stop
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>>579373962
What time is it?
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>>579370736
We can only see the steam side, we don't know how console players reacted.
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>>579346560
I am severely mentally handicapped so I could never make webm for retards work, and use ffmpeg with batch files instead
The results are not great and I often see people post stuff with much better quality, but it's the best I can do. You adjust -crf until you hit required file size (higher is more compression).
https://files.catbox.moe/vs1iln.cmd
For best results you also need to identify key frames with ffprobe and cut the input so it starts with a key frame and ends before a key frame, for maximum length and optimal size. But I stopped doing that when I started recording with steam, I just cut clip with steam, export it and feed to ffmpeg. Works well enough.
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>>579383396
I would wager the same way. They do have stats of some sort out iirc so I’ll look around and see if I find anything.
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>>579384367
>You adjust -crf until you hit required file size
vp9 takes ages to render, man, why do this to yourself
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>>579384367
>I could never make webm for retards work
Ask Claude (Sonnet not Haiku) to pull the webm for lazys repo and walk you through installing and using it like you're 5 years old and utterly tech illiterate. One of the better legitimate uses for AI.
You can be as retarded as you like with it, send screenshots of where you got confused, and ask all the dumb questions.
I'd suggest a different clanker but I don't know any other ones that can, and do competently, handle such tasks. Gemini for example can't do tool calls in browser, and is also fucking retarded as shit.
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>>579384746
idk what is the norm here, vp8?
I use vp9 because it's compatible with everything, except for maybe itoddler toys (don't care)
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ILL FLUSH EM OUT
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>>579385075
>Ask Claude to pull the repo
Clone the repo, rather.
Sleep deprivation is making me even more retarded than you, time to fix that.
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>>579385203
>itoddler toys (don't care)
is this your way of coping with not being able to afford apple products
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>check darktide plebbit >inb4 >plebbit
>havoc discussion about boss rushes
>the most updooted reply is fucking dogshit thammer zealot
>half the replies stan thammer dogshit
>only a single mention of chorus, nobody actually discussing it
>only a single mention of relic blade, they don't even seem to know about it existing
I wanted to get my finger on the pulse of what this dumbfuck community is talking about, but it seems I touched a fucking CORPSE with the sheer severity of hardstuck these opinions exude.
The stereotypes aren't extreme enough, this is an advanced level of fucking retarded.
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>>579385203
I mean adjusting -crf until it fits is a horrible time waste.
Just use the "lazys" edition. It just werks.
Here's a boring webm I just made by dragging instant replay in, setting filesize, trimming, cropping, and hitting convert. Took me just a couple of minutes total.
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>>579350905
how are anons that are new to the shitty github releases web UI supposed to intuit that that particular zip has an executable in it

i know it may seem pedestrian to you and i anon but do try to not be a nigger to the new guys
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>>579385734
He could've just clicked the link and shut up instead of having a meltie over it, the spoonfeeding was right there even if it was rude.
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>>579385662
>r*ddit is retarded
No skibidi way
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>>579385846
>get talked shit to by someone who's consistently ignoring what my complaint actually is
>don't talk shit back
Yes, I could have done that. But I'm never going to.
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>>579385846
>>579386316
that's it. both of you come here.

no, don't look at the ground, look at me.
you're going to shake hands and say you're sorry and make up

go on
no computer games until you do
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>>579386043
Yeah but this level of retardation is something else.
>check another thread
>frustrated user asks "what does zealot even do" after (mostly) correctly assessing that the class has been power crept out of relevance and just feels like shit to run a damage build on
>every reply is just thunder hammer memes
>again, not a single mention of the relic blade
These niggers are like 3 years behind in meta and presumably permastuck, not in the havoc trench, but in fucking heresy.
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>>579386432
kek
>no computer games until you do
Jokes on you, I'm going to bed soon.
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>>579386432
>apologizing for being an ass
Do you know where we are, nigger?
Spoonfeeding is already more gracious than you should expect from this place. It's borderline saintly to send a clickable, correct and accurate link that will just work. Having a chimpout over being spoonfed is shameful, even if there was a misunderstanding.
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>>579386616
that's it
no nintendo for a week
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>>579386043
>>579386498
It's simply because there is no substantial content, so all the experienced players are barely checking in. Shit I've only recently started coming here again briefly to see commentary on nmrih2 and aliens fireteam 2
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>>579386616
>Having a chimpout over being spoonfed is shameful
That's not quite what happened, and you know it. We were already both talking shit to one another before you deigned to post anything beyond trash talk. You'd already set the tone of our interaction. If you want to get pissy over someone saying mean words to you, try not being the first one to throw them out. The fact that you're still feigning ignorance over what my actual issue with everything was and pretending that I was simply getting assmad because "le github is hard to use" or because you didn't suck my cock while you spoonfed me is more of same shit that caused me to keep responding the way I did to begin with. The program was irrelevant at that point. I'd already lost interest in it for the time being and had said something to that effect in my very first post.
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>>579386498
>>579385662

r*ddit is easily the most offensively stupid community this game has, it's actually fucking depressing that these "people" are the most visible (to Fagshark) part of community, fucking insane.

I'd say this general is like, damnation/auric level of skill, with an occasional h40 mf thrown in

I cannot imagine a singular r*ddit nigger to complete even a single Auric Maelstrom. They're actual malice level, at most.

Yet, as per r*ddit custom, they feel entitled to yap 24/7 about shit they haven't the slightest clue about, and regurgitate retarded memes from 2016.
Nightmare land, it's like talking to someone about cars, and they barely know what a wheel is, and then you have some idiot stupid narcisisstic retard nigger motherfucker butt in and tell a story about how he loves to drives his bicycle that his momma gave him when he was 5. Insane.
Some people here hate on that website as a joke/ironically, I don't, I actually fucking mean it.
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>>579386616
You're grounded mister.
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>>579388912
oh yeh?
>GROUND THIS
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>>579387612
>aliens fireteam 2
It's okay, literally very average, but I'll probably put a bit more time into it. I think NMRIH2 has more legs honestly if you are comparing the two as co-op games, along with Aliens biggest issue of simply being overpriced.
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>join h21 cause no 40 lobbies and wanna test new arbie loadout
>all 3 eat shit in the first room and fucking leave
i do not fucking miss the shitter trench
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>>579393623
>join havoc 27
>havoc forged, havoc exemplar teammates
>all have the banner for completed assignments equipped
>2 of them die to a mauler overhead, like 10 seconds apart
I don't get it. How can they play enough assignments to earn the cosmetics but not learn basic combat?
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>>579394608
>>579393623
Their entire lives revolve around randomly joining people's havocs and hoping they get carried
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How come all the good feelings in the universe never coalesced into some benevolent chaos gods?
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>>579395885
They did, and he is called The Emperor of Mankind
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>>579395962
I don't believe that is correct but I don't know enough about Chaos gods to refute it.
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>>579395996
That's perfect for me because I don't have any proof to back it up.
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>>579395996
>>579396204
Clown to clown communication
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>>579396306
It's called humility and honesty son, and it's a virtue. You should try it.
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>>579396393
You are the circus
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>>579396810
I'm ok with this.
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>>579395885
im not sure, but isnt that wat the edlar gods are?
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>>579395885
>warhammer 40k universe
>good feelings

Closest anyone ever comes is when they're vertically bisecting a heretic with a chainsword.
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>>579395885
The current chaos gods also represent and embody the good aspects too.
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>>579397738
Well it wasn't always like that right?
>>579397808
Which one is the god of that fuzzy feeling I get when I hold a kitten, I'm signing up.
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>>579373113
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>>579373712
>I got your entire net worth on my wrist
You have ZERO DOLLARS on your wrist? Haha lmao what a loser!
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>>579398065
>Which one is the god of that fuzzy feeling I get when I hold a kitten, I'm signing up.
It's Nurgle I'm afraid. Time to buy some adult diapers.
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>>579389002
HE'S RUNNING AWAY NAKED SOMEBODY STOPS HIM HE DIDN'T SPEND ON COSMETICS!
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>>579398960
Or you can soil yourself and let the cute student nurse clean your butt.
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>>579400976
I had a circumcision when i was 9 and the nurse that had to make sure i could still urinate properly was the most attractive woman i had ever seen.
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>>579401246
oi vey!
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>>579395996
>>579396204
He's not a chaos god, but IS an extremely powerful warp entity comparable to a chaos god with similar mechanisms of thought and belief giving him power, and causing blessings and miracles to happen for those who earn his favour. The distinction is nerd debate type shit, for all intents and purposes he functionally is one, but all the actual chaos gods despise the guy.
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>>579401246
>I had a circumcision when i was 9
Why the fuck would you do this
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>>579401726
phimosis
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>>579401909
Should've just jorked it hourly
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I don't really understand how phimosis is real. Like, just pull on it? We have men out there stretching their dickskin to the point they restore it to a pseudo-foreskin, I don't believe you couldn't just stretch that shit out after a while.
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>>579403697
I remember trying to pull back the skin as a kid after peeing and getting scared when I couldn't get it back, but I eventually managed and nowadays I'm a chronic masturbator.
I love my foreskin so much bros.
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>>579395885
What good feelings? The rules are unfair, pleasure is not considered a good feeling.
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>>579398782
Gottem
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>>579404119
giwtwm, jewish doctors stole mine
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Co-operative Games General
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>>579404824
Co-operative goon general
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>>579405367
Co-op porn game that's just Darktide but Slaanesh, and the disablers all pin us down with rape attacks
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I actually like no more room in hell 2.
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>>579405542
same
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vermintide is better than darktide
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>>579406114
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How do we fix it?
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>>579408082
put a warning on it saying it's not advised to take it if you're a turbo shitter
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>>579408082
I don't think you can realistically "fix" a throwing knife blitz to be anywhere on par with the power other classes have on their blitzes. It's still the best one Zealot has though.
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>>579408082
Give it auto tracking and a poison DoT that does max health %hp damage
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How do I get the most juice out of the Mk.III plasma gun? I feel like it just doesn't have enough kick to reliably explode targets that actually matter.
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>>579408082
is good enuff, just aim for the head
but i guess adding a small bleed would be ok
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>>579408082
Give it true cleave.
I'm sick of every shitter unit ruining my sick 360 noscope montage
>b-b-b-but it's just a kni-
Don't care.
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>>579408378
We literally had that with Puncture bolt pistol and they killed it a patch or two ago
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>>579408082
give zealot meltagun
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>>579408565
I don't wanna because only vet has valhalan cosmetics and I want to cosplay as Jurgen #323123123123
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*glorp glorp glorp*
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>>579385443
of course it is
>>579388904
>as a joke
people that have never been there or are active posters themselves probably
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>>579408479
>nerfing the only thing that made builds more diverse
why are swedes like this? do they hate fun?
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>>579395885
There’s way more suffering and negativity in the galaxy than there are “good feelings”. The closest thing you have to that is the Tau warp entity but even that isn’t really “good feelings”.
>>579397446
Kind of. They weren’t all so much “good feelings” are they were particular constructs representing certain things. Humanity could technically learn to do the same but it would require substantially more effort and probably way more psykers than there are right now.
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>>579408082
Literally just give it more range.
It's impossible to aim at anything more than 20 meters away.
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>>579410408
Skill issue.
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>>579408375
it simply just do be like that
afaik the explosion aoe is not affected by ranged damage buffs (becaus fatshark hates fun, obviously)
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>>579410861
You're correct, I was actually just checking that. Ah well, it does do a good job of knocking down blobs of armor that might assrape my auric team mates at least
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>>579410750
*stops dead in your tracks*
*tries to aim for 5 seconds*
*wastes 4 knifes just to get the angle right*
>Damn i'm good.
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holy shit you just destroyed that guy
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That instakill chaff on crit node for scum looks mighty tempting
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>>579411729
it also works on maulers, so its not just chaff
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Man NOBODY picks up fucking Plasteel or Diamantine.
Literally everyone else just beelines the shortest path and often times literally ignores resources that aren't even out of their way. They don't open chests or anything.

Every single match it's like
>me: 200-400 plasteel, 100-300 diamantine
>everyone else: 20-40 of either, if that
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>>579409218
What race or Xenos is this?
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>>579408082
First we fix the swap animation cancel exploit. Yes, you heard me right.
>but
I know, I know. Hear me out.
Computing the amount of time it takes for a weapon's equip animation to complete should be trivial. This means it should be trivial how much that animation time is over a given, arbitrary ceiling. Let's say we put that ceiling at 0.4 seconds, calculate that a 1.2s equip time weapon is 0.8s over, and then calculate how much +% equip speed that weapon needs to hit 0.4. Still with me?
IJ is commonly accepted to be a bad keystone. Bake either one of the sub-nodes into the keystone itself, and replace that one with a skill that puts that ceiling on equip time, meaning your bolter, your flamer, or what have you, have their equip animation sped up until it only takes 0.4s to equip. This means if you have that ability, you have a built-in knife swap exploit.
Then, since we now have that tech, apply the same change to veteran's equip speed node to support the helbore and the boltgun.
>but anon, I don't want to have to use IJ
Tough tits chuddie. If you were using the flamer, that likely means you're in havoc, and you should be using immolation grenades there to buy space during boss fights. If you were using the bolter-
Yeah actually, buff IJ a little. Give it a chance not to use ammo based on how many stacks you have. Just fucking make it 1:1. Supercharge your bolter, why the fuck not? That sounds fun, right? I think that sounds fun. Zealot is the one class that actually SHOULD magdump the bolter, and giving a chance not to use ammo has perfect synergy with that.
BP is overpowered enough as is, and Martyrdom is fucking lame and gay anyway so go fuck yourself.
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>>579411931
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>>579411921
Nigga just play Havoc.
You'll have more recourses than you will know what to do with.
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>just play havok
nah thanks
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>>579413201
>havok
brown
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>>579389031
>literally very average
how? its a direct upgrade to the first in damn near everywhere it matters
it has a few bugs but I wish more games had a priority on snappy gameplay over big GTA-like animations
i havent felt a need to stay in formation for a game since Vermintide 1 as well, this unironically feels more like vermintide than darktide does
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>>579412042
>only way to make people use IJ is to force them to use it because fartshart thought it was a good idea give many guns retarded pull out times
I'm glad knowing you don't work in game developement.
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>>579413201
You can just play games in the 15-25 range which are easy as shit and give plenty of materials at the start of the week.
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>the little toughness damage ticks you take from venting plasma gun heat removes Flensing stacks
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>>579414072
>blindly IJ hating retard comes in with blind IJ hate
You're just bad and retarded and copy all of your builds from tardslantern.
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>>579414203
>using the plasma bore
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>>579414259
It goes boom I like it
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>>579414259
>using the best gun available to the class
You're right, anon should be using the shredder autopistol, I hear contrarian 70 IQ drooling retards like yourself think it's great.
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>>579414218
IJ is shit and always will be shit.
It's strictly just a shittier version of martyrdom and only a retard is too stubborn to accept that fact.
Blazing Piety has an actual reason to exist and isn't just a sad copypaste rush job with shittier stats.
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>>579414345
never said it was bad, read again Marmud
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>>579414437
>IJ is shit and always will be shit.
IJ affects ranged weapons and is zealot's ranged keystone. It is shit because it doesn't support ranged weapons enough to be relevant. Giving it a chance for free bullets would be the first step in the right direction of making a slightly more gun focused zealot even remotely viable.
You're the nigger who argued in favor of build diversity, now you're tarding in the polar opposite direction.
>inb4 >ranged zealot
Opinions as retarded as yours barely even make it to auric, and you have infinite ammo there anyways, so you have no reason to bitch about it.
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>>579414259
Maybe the other marks are better, but I just picked up the Plasma on my Veteran to level up the Mastery and the gun generally just feels so unsatisfying to use.
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>>579414437
it doesnt even synergize/enable with weakspot for flanking
I dont get why theres 5-8 nodes on the tree dedicated to flanking and weakspots wehn IJ has nothing to do with it
>>579414696
>IJ affects ranged weapons and is zealot's ranged keystone
why the fuck would i want to shoot bullets faster on a class with zero ammo sustain
>Giving it a chance for free bullets would be the first step in the right direction of making a slightly more gun focused zealot even remotely viable.
your counterargument against someone saying its shit is "it should have something to not be so shit"?
>Opinions as retarded as yours barely even make it to auric, and you have infinite ammo there anyways,
did you forget the part where zealot has dogshit options for topping off TGH at range?
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>>579414965
>why the fuck would i want to shoot bullets faster on a class with zero ammo sustain
>dogshit options for topping off TGH at range?
Yep, called it, you're just fucking retarded and bad. I'm just going to call you a fucking retard and call it a day, you fucking retard.
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>>579414708
It's a bit of an acquired taste. For the Mk.2 you basically don't ever charge it, you just use regular shots to snipe elites and it's main benefit is that it can pierce a lot of bodies to hit said elites through a mass of enemies.
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>>579415075
>called nothing
>immediately pivots to 'uh, uh, retard!'
wait a minute i know this responding scheme, enjoy your "win" youre not getting anymore (you)'s from me
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>>579416082
>muh ammo
>when the proposition was free ammo
>complaining about ammo in the gamemode with infinite ammo
Retarded
>complains about lack of toughness
>when you get toughness on any dodges even ranged
>when IJ has surprisingly big toughness gains
Bad

You're a worthless fucking retard.
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>push poxburster
>arbites dog jumps it from the opposite direction and pushes it into me
and this is why i will always play dogless arbites
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>>579416439
never happened
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>>579416439
>blaming the cute pupper
how evil of you
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Tried DLSS 5
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>>579417118
not terrible, more befitting than Cloud
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>>579416439
>>arbites dog jumps it from the opposite direction
It doesn't do that.
The dog doesn't jump poxbursters.
You'd have to manually direct it to jump the poxburster.
It occasionally jumps near where a burster is, which CAN cause it to tumble away from the dog, which CAN coincide with the exact timing that you push it, and CAN coincidentally push it into you. This is also a series of freak accidents that happened to me maybe 3 times in over 500 levels of playing arbitrator and never touching LW. It happened once in havoc and got the vet killed, it was very funny, I apologized, we all laughed about it and still won anyway.
Given how extremely rare it is for this to happen, you are infinitely more likely to get dogged or grabbed by a mutant, no matter how perfect you want to pretend your play is, and the dog would bail you out. Additionally, poxbursters don't really hurt you if you slot True Grit. Insurance isn't a foreign concept to Muslims, as far as I remember, so you should be able to understand True Grit's value even if your religion demands you irrationally hate the dog.
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>>579417118
Call me retarded if you will but which is the one with the filter? I guess the right one?
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>>579417118
>>579418173
I can't tell either lol. Neither one looks better, they just look different. I'd argue that looking too much different is a bad thing, and a waste of compute.
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>>579418331
I guess it's not a bad thing either? Since if it doesn't drastically change how the characters look like, then it just means that Fatshark's texture, modeling and lighting people are doing very good work already.
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>>579418667
Darktide looks good. Everything that is supposed to be ugly, looks intentionally ugly, and not because they lack the technology to make it look good. Darktide's artists generally do a really good job, it's one of those things that this mismanaged pile of shit actually manages to nail.
This does unfortunately include the player characters, which are absolutely hideous, and most complaints about them being ugly are correct, even if most of them also originate from a point of retardation, autogynephilia and goonerism, and are ultimately pointless in a first person game where you spend 99% of your time looking at the enemies anyway.
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Post THAT file, you know the one...
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>>579419418
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>>579417958
I wasn't the Arbites in this situation, I was a shooty Veteran who got thrown into a mixed pack and summarily killed for it in an already fucked situation (two other guys down).
You're getting strangely defensive against a funny anecdote though. Are all white women like this when it comes to dogs?
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>>579417118
Does DLSS5 come with reshade?
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>>579419614
>retarded mudslime is also a porn addicted gooner
Yikes, dude.
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>>579419418
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wich resident shitposter got banned the other day?
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>darktide
https://youtu.be/RAA1xgTTw9w
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>>579420398
The ratfag. Y'know, >>579343995 picrel
As you can see, he's already ban evading: >>579420715
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IT'S OUT BOYS
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>>579420767
settle down, schizo
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>>579420845
Go on, retard, have another 19-hour-long meltie over it.
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>>579420808
MY DICK IS OUT BOYS
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>>579420845
kill yourself, nobody likes you here nor in real life, you're a pathetic disappointment to all
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>>579420901
raped that freak
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>>579420901
>>579420946
you are jumping at shadows you little girls
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Bodied that freak!
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uh oh another 26-hours long rat melty incoming
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but then nothing happened
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Someone was asking about Alienclick 2 cheats to level and get money. He ever find something that worked? There's no way Cheat Engine works, right?
No, I don't want to grind money in yet another fucking game.
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Spanked his ass
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>>579419764
>jewish foid assumes everyone they dislike is brown
I'm sorry I thought we were allowed to make up stuff about eachother here.
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>>579419471
Truly repulsive.
To me, the funniest part about that webm is Tranner off-loading special detection to his eyes via this retarded ass MMO tacticool HUD instead of, you know, using his fucking ears.

Also shows how these coddled cheatmod trannies are actual pseuds; as shown if you were half as good at havocs you'd slide at that sniper and just body shot it, it has next to no health and you would position yourself away from the hound THAT YOU CAN HEAR, I'm guessing, to your left.

Instead tranner just fucking walks slowly at a close-range sniper and eats shit for no real reason. Amazing.
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>>579421713
just play horde mode
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>>579421713
WeMod (WAND) has a trainer for the game where you can add xp and requisition credits, I don't own the game so I can't test it but I have cheated in other games using their stuff and it works fine
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>>579421932
You had over 20 minutes to come up with a retort and the best thing you could come up with is calling me a Jew?
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>>579422154
I'm posting between matches :3
Some of us in this general actually play the game instead of sitting around spewing spite at random anons.
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>>579422154
nta but it's pretty funny, actually
he called you a kike bitch btw, not just a jew
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>>579421713
yah I did
https://opencheattables.com/viewtopic.php?t=2107
build crafting kind of sucks with the current kit on offer, though
rumble turret and overclock seem like the most effectual abilities but I've been trying shit with hunter's bolts
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>>579420808
Are you serious?
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>>579422242
>he can't shitpost mid-game
Oh so you're one of those eagle-eye-find-and-peck-the-key typists that takes three minutes to type out a sentence.
>>579422248
It's funny but it's not 20 minutes of ruminating funny.
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>>579422507
>23 minutes between posts
I can buy his excuse of "I was just playan uwu"
He's still a fucking fag for the way he phrased it imho
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>>579422507
>eagle-eye-find-and-peck-the-key
kek
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>>579419619
Yeah
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>>579422862
I hate AIjeets but this looks cool, actually
Post some webbums if you didn't just pull it off the web lol
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>>579422105
I've never heard of that before. Thanks

>>579422318
Sweet okay. There's no hoops to jump through in order to use it, right? I've barely used Cheat Engine outside of porn games.
>building
So far, I've only played Hunter. Cryo pulse seem very strong, especially if you build deep into it for the big freeze+shatter combo. Honestly can't really tell what build crafting is like yet for the most part though since so much shit is still locked for now. I only just bought my first augment for the funny bullets (that are mathematically very strong).
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>>579422635
The real red flag is a combination of the earlier accusation of being a white woman, and immediately after crying Jew. Knowers know. I certainly noticed.
>>579422808
>picrel
Yeah, that.
>>579422862
This is bad, actually. I really dislike this retarded AI hyperrealism where every detail is amplified to 300%. The scuffs on the armor are especially offensive. Those are subtle for a reason, the right side looks like a caricature of itself.
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>>579422862
The right one just looks like you took the left one and dragged him behind a car for like a mile or two, I don't see what the big deal is
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>>579423129
Well, it is a glorified edge detection filter
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>>579423313
The people that shill this crap have bought stake in big AI. So if the bubble pops, they lose everything.

It's NFTs all over again, lol.

Or it's just people that get really niggardly about the idea of paying artists anything for art, and the zero sum game most modern shitters on 4chan play of "ANYTHING THAT SPITES THE PEOPLE I DON'T LIKE IS GOOD FOR ME!"
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>>579422862
>DLSS5
This technology is so fucking weird, it just makes everything both look like AI slop but generated in real time, it's so fucking uncanny

Raytracing/Pathtracing at least made the games look actually good, even if it was just marginally better than the normal shading, this shit homogenizes everything, every game into the same
>vaguely made by ChatGPT/Grok
nonsense, who even wants this? The jeets?
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Hrrrmmm
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>>579424094
>who even wants this? The jeets?
I do think the face detection and enhancement technology is interesting. It's not quite there yet, but it's pretty impressive when it works (and ghastly when it doesn't).
But you pretty much nailed it with the AI slop aesthetic. It's an overall downgrade even if many faces look a bit nicer. Also hair tends to look very weird.
Granted, a lot of technology starts out this way, and there's a good chance that it'll revolutionize rendering techniques in the next ten years, but it definitely ain't there yet.
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>>579424094
>who even wants this?

People who are easily impressed. So White first worlders
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>>579424620
>a technique that makes the finished product look a certain way you have no real control over
artistic dead end
also, completely useless for anything that's stylized instead of attempting realism
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>>579425856
It's why Stylism always wins over Photorealism. Sure the latter has it's place, but I will ALWAYS prefer the former.
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>>579425856
>greentext
It's just a matter of training data though, isn't it? If you train the thing to recognize a character and put out a particular style, it should look fine. You'd obviously need specialist per-franchise models/filters to achieve this, but what you're describing sounds like a generalist filter issue that is easily fixed by making a specialist filter. In theory.
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>>579417118
>>579418331
I think the overall lighting looks way better on the light. The left is almost mat_fullbright 1 in comparison. This tech is pretty good and I didn't expect this, I thought it was just gonna put slop faces on things
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havok
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>>579426713
>on the light
on the right*

this one too >>579422862
This is like an extra good ambient occlusion or something in effect
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Havoc? Son you need to learn HVAC
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>>579424620
>takes one of the weakest renditions of a fairly iconic character and makes her a graves-disease suffering alien
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>>579427243
>a graves-disease suffering alien
or just, you know
a thai
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>>579417118
>>579426713
>This tech is pretty good and I didn't expect this, I thought it was just gonna put slop faces on things
But how does it look in motion? Like outside of marketing screenshots?
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>>579426125
>If you train the thing to recognize a character and put out a particular style, it should look fine
in theory this is true
competent AI is all purely extrapolation based off of existing shit to train it off of
I trust Monkey see, monkey Do over generative/speculative crap

That doubly said
>people come up with a unique style
>you emulate their style at 10X input and all the money goes to the jackasses running the model
>murder any desire for anybody to want to be creative because you've just killed any incentive for the creative process because now creativity has zero financial or self-sustaining incentive
its unsustainable and unironically would lead to stagnation
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anyone wants to do a few vermintide 2 games with me on legend?
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>>579427375
thats bullshit
I know the thai to have more angular features, I more associate yuge bulging eyes with flips
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>carry power core/sample objective
>as soon as I pick it up a random singular poxer manifests out of nothingness just to slap it out of my hands
I hate this shit so much it's surreal
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>>579427625

Like you've got actual shizophrenia; it feels like the filter applies 0.001 second after the image itself, so you end up looking at something that feels like 100 grok-gen images per second instead of an actual game, it takes you out more than "outdated" (2024/25) graphics do
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>>579427924
it doesnt really bother me
what does bother me is when this happens
>i turn around to pick it back up
>there actually were 3 people staring at me and following me closely
like what the FUCK were those 3 retards doing while i was doing the objective
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>>579427924
They don't usually materialize. They tend to spawn from all sides and chase you.
Chain slides when there are no enemies, it's faster than just sprinting.
Spam push (rightclick) when there are enemies. Unless your class has atrocious stamina regen delay, you can spam push fast enough that no trash mob can attack you. Ranged attacks and elites/specialists are now your only worry.
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What weapon do you pair the blaze force sword (the one handed version) with? I am trying to figure out a build to make the weapon worthwhile but I keep running into the issue that if I want effective melee I need something with better horde clear and if I want my staff to have horde clear I have to pick the inferno staff at which point it just feels much better to run the dueling sword
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>>579427625
>>579428024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhaWD1VpvT0

I couldn't find any 'tide footage, but look at this shit - this is a Harry Potter- style moving ChatGPT image, not a real game

Idk maybe it's just me overthinking shit but it really feels uncanny
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>>579428071
>Ranged attacks and elites/specialists are now your only worry.

i think the tolerance is a little over 50-60 degrees, so a simple diagonal dodge wont do, but you can still slightly turn~30 degrees and dodge diagonally to serpentine towards the destination
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>>579427782
i could but im sleepy rn, what region you in?
friend code 64094226
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>>579428309
Yes. And on classes with fast stamina delay, you can initiate a slide, and be able to push mid-slide to keep melee units off you. It's what makes arbitrator the best objective carrier (in theory), you have the fastest stamina tier, and are the tankiest class at shrugging ranged attacks.
When stress testing this in h40, practical experience has taught me that it should be the zealot instead. Low damage class so losing its DPS doesn't matter, and if the zealot makes a mistake, it doesn't matter because crutches bail him out anyway. When I'm playing zealot I'm usually the guy breaking away from the team to push buttons and carry objectives.
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>>579428559
>you have the fastest stamina tier
was that the case? i thought it was because arbys has like 20 fucking bars
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>>579428623
NTA but stamina delay and stamina regen speed are two separate, independent stats
and both are really good on the arbi (and the S-cum)
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>>579425595
I think you have that backwards buddy
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>>579428623
Every class has its own individual stamina recovery delay, many just happen to share the same number so they're divided into tiers.

>0.5s
Scum, Arbitrator, Veteran* (with Stamina Regeneration Boost, bottom left)
>0.75s
Zealot, Skitarii, Veteran
>1.0s
Psyker
>1.5s
Ogryn

You can view this as a rough, rule of thumb priority list of who should be carrying barrels. Ogryn is the exception because ogryn can sprint at full speed and knock shit over with sideways dodges, so he actually goes to the top, but an arbitrator and a scum aren't much worse.
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>>579428472
>>579427782
forgot to mention, EU
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>>579428953
>carrying barrels
>on a scum
nigga
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>>579428953
Oh and zealot goes down to 0.6 with the stamina aura, that also technically benefits everyone. It's just that nobody ever uses it, so I completely forgot it even exists.
The stamina delay is the good part, it may actually be worth using, it's just... in auric, who the fuck cares? in havoc, corruption kills you. So, yeah...

>>579429085
Yeah? Scum is fast and has infinite stamina. Besides, (You) have to do everything yourself in auric pubs anyway, it's not like it matters who does it when your 3 retards would rather farm spawn doors and go down 20 times in the cyronic rod finale.
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>>579427782
>>579429075
2/4
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>>579429492
Yeah and it's gonna stay at 2/4, nobody's playing that nigger game lmfao
L bozo
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>>579423129
Sounds like you hit the nail on the head even
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>>579428859
I know this is 4chan the place where racism is as common as pennies on the sidewalk, but you have to concede that lazy white people with access to tech didn't play with this crap back when ole 15(dot)ai was starting.

Remember those days?
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>>579429085
bruh scum covers the most ground since they still have that ridiculous dodge
also
>sliding=dodge talent
its a fucking joke to do any barrel objective as scum
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>>579429919
>its a lazy white people problem
most people are stupid, i dont fucking care how many indians win the spelling bee, most indians are fucking shit bathing retards
I dont care how good chinamen are at keeping up appearances, on a bad day it takes 1000 of them to daisy chain together to screw a lightbulb that inadvertantly kills them because china
I dont care how retarded you think black folk are, theyre probably as retarded statistically as white people

because newsflash, most people are fucking stupid, just play DOTA2 in any server, or fuck, just play darktide
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>>579429919
I’m not saying those people don’t exist. They’re just a drop in the ocean compared to the people it mostly applies to.
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I don't play them auric gobbledygook, son.
I work for a living. I provide the people of this community with havok and havok accessories.
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>>579432454
Uhh hank could you carry me through rolling steel
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I have on the good authority of the inquisition, information that proves Wolfer is a gay little furry that never washes his suit. It smells so bad that it makes Carpet sample smell like febreeze in comparison.
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>>579432909
Actually we're playing through the latest Vermintide content.
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>>579432909
... which seems odd, because vermintide has no content.
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>>579413754
Ah I never played the first so I don't have much to compare to in that regard. It's still good, just some of the guns feel like they have no kick/impact, and I wish the cutscenes were skippable on replay.

I will say it definitely has GREAT controls, one of the most fluid TPS cover systems I've ever played. I've only really been working on a couple of the classes so far (though finished the main campaign) so I need grind out some levels to max at least one of them out. Also real talk, I like all the cheesy dialogue and I think Piper should get piped by me because she is cute.
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>>579432454
>>579432909
>>579434231
>>579434426
dang ol' rats goin 'shahahahahaha' n' 'heheheheh' tellyahhwat its a dang ol' Dale dreamland
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Fellas. I like shootin' stuff with the junkie. I like shootin' up some stimms too, but I was talkin' about guns and bullets at first. You understand?
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>>579435696
Brown hands typed this.
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>>579435191
> just some of the guns feel like they have no kick/impact
the fact that they're balanced out by guns that do have kick impact is not a bad thing
>bring literal stun gun, is functionally good at stunning enemies
>bring zero stun gun, intuitively a DPS gun
the guns have function
hell even the melee is remarkably versatile
Darktide wished its recoil mechanics and weapon variety had the actual role filling that fireteam elite 2 does
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>>579343370
add helldivers 2 to the coop game list
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>>579436106
>>579435191
doubly also
>remarkably high variety in paint schemes, weapon mods
and the big one for me
>actual non dogshit outfits and hats for your character
here's a fucking game with what should be in my opinion, a bunch of industry standard shit
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>>579435994
Awfully quick with the brown assumptions, anon. Quite unbecoming of you.
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>>579427782
>>579428472
Thanks for the carries, finally got the full gacha box

Also I get the feeling that the DLC weapons and classes for Vermintide 2 are a bit better than their main game counterparts. Or why does everyone use the DLC weapons?
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>>579436190
Helldivers 2 and Space marine 2 occupy the same space
>incompetently managed games that make you not rely on your teammates and actively hate them because being closer to them is an active detriment to the player's performance
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>>579432454
>>579413282
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>>579436320
>Also I get the feeling that the DLC weapons and classes for Vermintide 2 are a bit better than their main game counterparts.
because the non-DLC weapons all were fucking better at some point, then arbitrarily nerfed at random points
>oh hurr durr new difficulty with new breakpoints that fuck a weapon over that was unironically fine tuned
>oh hurr durr a weapon like the huntsman longbow is too good lets fuck it because Huntsman is too fun, we'll just make the class retarded in other ways or something
Its the league of legends issue
>you have/had a fairly balanced game
>new season rolls along and you change the items, barely change half the characters, and so half the characters are either completely fucked because they werent designed with these items in mind, or completely fucked because they werent designed with these items in mind
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>>579436106
>hell even the melee is remarkably versatile
This is surprisingly correct, stun baton has a lot of use and it's not just a flyswatter. Side note as well, but the challenge card system keeps Standard mode relevant without being forced to a higher tier with friendly fire, I thought that's a nice option for how you get your rewards.

>>579436242
here's a fucking game with what should be in my opinion, a bunch of industry standard shit
Admittedly some of the outfits in these screenshots is the stuff from the whale edition I bought, but even the standard stuff has a TON to pick from. Along with being able to put decals on the clothing itself to basically make custom shirts and armor is fire, I love it.
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>>579435696
It’s cool, but have you tried cutting off three elites’ heads in a single bromentum rashad swing on a melee build?
Now that's scummin'
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>Damn bro you got the whole squad laughing
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>>579436739
>Admittedly some of the outfits in these screenshots is the stuff from the whale edition I bought
i got giddy at the
>lmao prometheus bubble suit
and other stuff
the game has as much callback cosmetics as it does new stuff that looks great
off the top of my head
>the pilot suit
>the diver suit
>the EVA suit
>the GOATed winter/insulated suit
WITH MINIMAL CLIPPING amongst the fucking meshes
Im so sick of all the cool/unique cosmetics being relegated to 30$ side purchases when the industry standard is to sell us big shit recolors and mish mash jobs wholesale
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>>579437189
wait a minute...
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>>579437189
No loo big enough for his poo
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>>579437189
>anime Clint Eastwood
>DO NOT REEDEEM ogryn
>literal skitranny
>and a bald Ben Shapiro
Truly a squad of all time.
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>>579437189
You're the skit, aren't you.
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>>579438646
I'd suck off those skitties.
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>>579435191
>I will say it definitely has GREAT controls, one of the most fluid TPS cover systems I've ever played
I like the game, anon, but while Aliens's isn't bad. It's just not quite as intuitive or consistent as it could be. Off the top of my head:
>if you're in crouch-height cover, walking out of the cover leaves you crouched
>sometimes the low cover will bug, and you'll still be standing instead of crouched
>using A/D doesn't turn your character
>clambering isn't always reliable, sometimes you roll instead
Maybe I just got spoiled by The Division 1/2. Those have the best TPS cover system I've played with by far.
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>>579436320
Why'd you think the game was given out for free? Gotta sell those packs.
>DLC weapons
That's mostly the case on Kruber and Bardin, their base weapons require some thought to use so shitters don't use them
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>>579439075
>using A/D doesn't turn your character
wut, A/D are strafe
>Maybe I just got spoiled by The Division 1/2
ill never understand Ubisoft's obsession with
>mindbendingly easy difficulty
and then
>ballcrushingly "literally have to cheese" difficulty
wheres the fucking middle ground
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>>579343370
>removed the ratclick news and pushed the game down to 'Acknowledged but barely discussed'
Why are you faggots like this?
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>>579439447
>wut, A/D are strafe
Yes, and out of cover, that's perfect. In cover, I don't care about strafing. Having your character turn and then move along the cover feels way more fluid and intuitive
>wheres the fucking middle ground
kek. Yeah Ubishit struggles with difficulty scaling. They had a decent handle on things last time I played TD2, but TD1 was super fucking rough early on. I still remember how hard you had to cheese rooms full of elite shotgunners that tanked a million damage and one-shot you
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>>579439783
meh my big issue with cover is the character "forgets" which shoulder im on
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>>579437379
>>579438404
many are saying this
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>>579437189
they trans they're gender
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Random guardsman before
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>>579441168
>>579441360
just merge the fucking pictures
you don't have to make two different posts
dear god this fucking general man
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>>579441168
>>579441360

Looks like those Fallout 3/NV """HD""" mods where everything is just fucking shiny for no fucking reason
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>>579441431
two times the (You)s, hustler
keep up
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>>579441168
>>579441360
>BEFORE
>AND WAY BEFORE
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Alright, I need help.
I usually play on Auric and I'm ok on most other classes but Skitarii's been giving me issues.
A friend I know sent me this build saying it's extremely easy to use on Auric but so far I die maybe two minutes into a round from the lowest, minor-tier horde enemy that magically appears behind me.
What's more frustrating is that I don't have this issue on any of the other classes outside maybe Psyker and everyone else seems to be doing just peachy.

Here's the build and what I'm using.

For curios it's that one twice and the third one is the same but instead of Max Health it's Toughness
If you're interested in how to play it, you stay with your melee until a gunner or a sniper is at distance harassing your team and then you just pop your alt and do a few shots to instantly end them and then swap back to melee. That's it.
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>>579441431
'no'
>>579441536
Yeah, just trying it out for fun.
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>>579441536
call me when we get procedurally generated fully modeled vaginal canals or some shit
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>>579442028
first of all max out your weapons you fucking nigger, that's for sure
and that rifle is fucking trash
>I die maybe two minutes into a round
work on your fundamentals, your build is irrelevant if you're getting hit this much in the first place
>pop your alt and do a few shots
alt? anyway, there's like 6/7 guns better suited for this task than a fucking Vigilant Autogun

work on your blocks/dodges, man, there's really not much else to say
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>>579442137
post a webm, man
>spoiler
absolutely disgusting
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>>579442137
>this will be Simpsons in 2012
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>>579442028
>+2 stamina
>VAG
>that fucking pathing
>taking a bunch of deadweight tax nodes while avoiding actually good ones
>>>>>>>>ACD
>going out of your way to take a bunch of capaticance regen, but not taking the best one in flensing
>skull but no medicae skull
Anon your friend is a FUCKING retard and downright niggerbrained to be this stupid. What the actual FUCK is that bottom section of the tree? Taking meme push block and avoiding stun immunity??
Good pathing looks like this, adjust to taste before you skub about it, I trust you can figure out what nodes you want to sacrifice if you want to pick up an actual ability.
>but it's too hard
Learn to read then, or are you illiterate too?
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>>579442540
I'm too lazy but here's a video
https://youtu.be/TALBxQBReWw?si=XXVPgCBs3lKsGIC5
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>>579442761
>capaticance
capacitance*
Looking at that retarded screenshot actually made me angry enough to make a typo. That's how fucking dogshit it is. I sincerely hope you're trolling, in which case, you got me, because being friends with someone that retarded is concerning.
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>>579395885
>how come all the good feelings in the universe never coalesced
but that's slaanesh
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>>579401604
>He's not a chaos god
*fully
*yet
>all the actual chaos gods despise the guy.
they all despise each other
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>>579442761
>meme aura
>good pathing looks like this
>takes the 3% recharge instead of 15% dmg after ability
>takes the fucking meme toughness to allies instead of 15% melee damage or ammo regen
>takes the shitty toughness regain on zapping instead of literally anything else
holy fucking shitter
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>>579443171
>actually trolling
You need to go back to >>>/b/
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>>579442761
I asked him where he got the build from and got it from a YouTuber
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>>579414096
you only get like 3.5k diamantine for H20 which is barely enough to maxx out ~2.5 weapons or a curio and a weapon
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>>579443250
you got a mirror at home there, champ? might be the time to take a good hard look
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>>579441168
>>579441360
Eh, the DLSS basically functions as a better lightning engine. Neat gimmick but honestly completely unnecessary.

Though, I do this can lead to game companies completely ignoring lighting in the future because all the devs will think
>"well the AI is just going apply the shadows, we don't need to do it."
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>>579442981
Those aren’t good feelings
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>>579442761
>no capacitance on weakspot kills
>takes the unreliable crit version instead
God damn you're a dipshit.
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this guy said VAG lmao
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>>579443389
>the devs then proceed to forget how to do shadows themselves
>ai incestuously feeds upon itself, enshittifying itself further
>we end up with parody-levels of shit lightning in the end
Grim. Dark, even.

>>579443587
LOL
LMAO
ALL OF MY KEK, /b/RO
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>>579443376
>lowercasenigger being a lowercasenigger
I'm just going to call you a nigger and not engage.

>>579443335
Virtually all darktide content creators are fucking retarded as hell. Something like 1/4 of the nodes of the tree you showed don't even work in your favor. It's stacking a ton of cleave on a weapon that doesn't even benefit much from cleave.

>>579443580
Yes, I play difficulties above heresy.
>3 zillion crushers show up
>a boss rush happens
Yeah sure let me just instagib their heads with my cheats.
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>>579443484
if you coalesce too many good feelings you just get slaanesh again
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Coalesce these nuts nigga lmaoooo
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>>579443730
>Yes, I play difficulties above heresy.
(X) Doubt

Not with that "build", you don't.
In "difficulties above heresy" you learn how to not get hit in the first place, and drop shitter useless passive toughness regain.
Toughness on crit (and the TDR the perk provides is a nice bonus, btw) and toughness on weakspot kill are all that you need to giganigger rape AM and H40 alike.

If you REALLY feel you need more you take that 5% per second for 3 seconds after an elite kill, but it's not really that necessary, and the perk itself is a good travel node.

By the way, I'm not seeing this to you directly, seeing as you're a lying Dunning-Kruger nigger incapable of an abstract thought preaching your malice bullshit as some sort of objective divine truth, I'm saying this so the others that might read your posts won't get baited.
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>>579443730
They found the video they took it from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MIrzDHuz5s
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>>579444462
Nigger I have won more havoc 40s than you have even played auric games, stop LARPing you absolute mongoloid. You aren't explaining jack shit and don't even know how the mechanics work.

Capacitance over time stacks with % cooldown reduction on curios and is the only source that actually does this. Instant capacitance granting skills do not interact with it. Just by virtue of that alone, the over time nodes are surprisingly point efficient. 2% capacitance on weakspot kill is very strong, but assumes you need more capacitance regen, and have a point to spare. Neither applies to the build. If you weren't completely fucking retarded, you would realize that this is a Noospheric Command build that doesn't even need that much capacitance in the first place. I'm capacitance positive already without needing any other nodes, and the only capacitance that matters is when I don't have a steady stream of elites or trash to kill, which is the exact failure mode of Reactor Coil Recharge.

Your regurgitation of the Dunning-Kruger buzzword doesn't make you less of a Dunning-Krugroid you fucking nigger.

>>579444472
>ACD shilling
God someone euthanize this retard. I shan't be clicking.
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>>579444462
>seeing
saying'
fuck I'm tired
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>>579444462
What the fuck did I just watch
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>>579444847
I can just imagine this whiteoid incel in their parents basement
Next youll tell me you do blockchain and do stocks
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>>579444861
>lowercasegroidery
And the the mask comes off again.
Fucking kill yourself already you actual real-life sub-human.
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>>579444847
>Capacitance over time stacks with % cooldown reduction on curios and is the only source that actually does this. Instant capacitance granting skills do not interact with it.

T O U G H N E S S.
I'm talking about toughness regain you actual fucking nigger. Read the fucking talents, maybe? Or the posts you get buttmad about in the first place? Jesus.
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>>579444991
uh oh! someone's grasping at the straws!
Are you diagnosed autistic, by any chance? Just asking.

>>579444986
eviscerated that incel freak
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>>579444898
XXI century coastal United States
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>>579445081
>says one severely retarded thing in the previous post
>says another severely retarded thing in the next post
It's hard to keep track of your infinite capacity for retardation.
>I'm talking about toughness regain
Yes, there is no such thing as too much toughness generation when you can feed it to everyone else via Power Overflow. Of course, you never play difficulties where this actually matters, since all your havoc claims are an obvious LARP.

>>579444986
Brown
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>>579445390
learn to read, I'm done with you.
and drink a herbal tea or go to the therapy for anger issues, you're getting way too mad for someone this wrong about shit. I know this is a big ego hit for you, someone showing you you're wrong on the internet, but try to stay calm about situations like these in future.

alternatively, have sex incel lmao, you're wrong and seething
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>>579445832
>more lowercase posting
Not even going to bother reading. It's obvious ratjeet is back.
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>>579445390
>Power Overflow
This is the type of nigga to recommend Born Leader on a veteran, too
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>>579445883
holy cope
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>>579445993
Believe it or not, Power Overflow generates thousands of toughness for teammates over the course of a game, and that's without toughness curios. It actually becomes even better when you stack a ton of toughness, which I assume most of the posters here are going to do.
This of course assumes that you can maintain 100% toughness most of the time, which I understand is a very tall ask for all the heresy stuckies here.
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>>579445883
its not the lowercase posting
its the
>unwarranted, unconstructive, condescending feedback
>followed by exceptionally artificial eggings on and secondary commentary
>accompanied by even more unconstructive comments
its all so mechanical
But then again Jeets practically live by the script after working at the callcenter all fucking day
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>>579443719
>>the devs then proceed to forget how to do shadows themselves
>>ai incestuously feeds upon itself, enshittifying itself further
>>we end up with parody-levels of shit lightning in the end
Unironically a possiblity seeing what cancer the AAA gaming industry has become. The industry is becoming more and more "centralized" (I don't know a better term to use, ESL), like think how majority of studios are now using Unreal Engine. While in the past many studios had their completely own game engines with different attributes.
It's going to be same with this AI shit, more and more studios will start using it because it cuts down costs because that is the only thing that matters to shareholders and investors who only look at games with
>the line MUST go UP

And as much people like to shill for indie games, which is fine since many of them are good, however for every 1 gem like Terraria or Stardew Valley, etc. there's thousands if not tens of thousands of complete fucking worthless shovelware nobody remembers, they still aren't "the industry" it's still going to be AAA and forever.
AAA is the one that are going to be the ones setting "industry practises", like what is common to use and do. And that shit eventually trickles down even into the Indie space due to some former AAA devs striking out on their own, and bringing alongside the things they know how to do. Like AI lighting and shadows in this case.

And remember all classes for coding like schools/courses that focus on how to be a video game developer are basically designed after and based on what the AAA guys are doing.
Not based on some random dude out in siberia in his shed making the Elf Miners: The Grudge, a game about elves as miners where you need to fight off dwarven mining companies.
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>>579446210
>Power Overflow
How does it work exactly?
Is it 25%/x, or is each ally getting 25% of your extra shield?
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>>579448637
You can check the kuli guides in the OP if you are ever unsure about mechanics.
It first checks whether you're at 100% toughness. If you are, then the talent takes the flat number of any toughness you WOULD gain, and applies 1/4 of it to every teammate.
This seems to include all sources of toughness, such as % over time, % on kill, and plausibly even other sources, such as teammates' talents that grant you toughness.
Because of the math it uses, converting your number into flat regen for your teammates, YOU having a bigger total number translates to more % toughness which makes the flat number bigger and thus shares more. Your teammates' actual flat toughness value doesn't matter, only yours.
Coherency toughness regen is the exception, since it does nothing when you're at 100%.
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>>579447772
>>>the devs then proceed to forget how to do shadows themselves
>>ai incestuously feeds upon itself, enshittifying itself further
>>we end up with parody-levels of shit lightning in the end
so basically AI is
>incredibly dogshit UE5 product
>but worse and more exaggerated
so ultra-laziness
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>>579448953
>kuli guides
>Spreads 25% of the amount of toughness actively generated by Skitarius to allies who are in coherency with Skitarius
wasnt very clear unfortunately, but it does seem a lot better then I thought if "75%" of your extra toughness is being distributed
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>>579449636
>"75%"
Kinda sorta. It obviously only gets any mileage if a teammate is <100% toughness, since any regen above that is wasted. It's like a 5% toughness regen aura that applies to every teammate, but with different math, and actually better since melee kills also restore toughness, and instant toughness talents also apply to it.
The two important things that it does, are keeping everyone topped up so melee damage bleedthrough doesn't happen, and feeding into gold toughness, since gold toughness effectively extends your toughness pool and can be regenerated into.
It's part of why stacking a fuckload of toughness regen, and going as far as taking the toughness aura with 3x coherency regen on curios, actually works, and works well. You really do share a truly stupid amount of toughness. The main caveat is that you need to actually stick close to your team, and stereotypical auricshitters tend to get lost and then die in some corner and then complain about it. Although recently, it seems that a lot of tourists have stopped playing and game quality is slowly returning to what it's supposed to be.
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>the generator mini game hasn't been done
>the door is already open
Nani?
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>>579444986
Being white is good that's not an insult dummy
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>>579449113
It is just laziness and greed all the way down.
The shareholders only care that the studio makes more money, cutting costs by having AI do the lightning and shadows lets you fire all the people who deal with that side of VFX. And they can make games faster, since remember, time is money.
Obviously this shit won't stop at just AI lighting and shadows, but they will try to spread application of AI as far and wide as possible

The UE5 engine becoming industry standard and is fucking everywhere as a comparison is perfectly accurate. Like think CDProjekt Red, Witcher 3, and I think 2077 used their own in-house RED Engine 3.
But even they have ditched that engine for some reason (probably shareholders and also due to losing veteran developers from the studio) and are now using UE5 for Witcher 4, and probably for Cyberpunk Orion as well.
AI will be the same shit, more and more studios will adopt it, or are forced to adopt it at gun point by their shareholders. Which will just over time result in every video game becoming more and more soulless, washed out, formulaic, slop.
This won't happen over night or next year or year after that, but say in 10-15 years from now games will be unrecognizable to us.

Like you said. Grim.
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why do captains sometimes not regenerate their shield? they just die instead
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>Queue up for H40s for the shits and giggles
>I actually get accepted multiple times (rating 31 clearance 32 Skitarii)
Is this a Monday thing or something? Didn't win any, although we got as far as the bridge in Dark Communion but one of my teammates just decided to randomly leave in the ambush section so we wiped afterwards.
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>>579450459
I'm not even scared of what CDPR makes because, having played TW2 a decade ago, a minute of TW3, and having beaten CP2077 I have yet to be convinced CDPR can into gameplay
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>Do like 99% damage to an enemy/boss
>The flamestaff Psyker auto-collects the kill
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT!
YOU'RE KEKING MY DOPAMINE RECEPTORS
I NEED TO SEE MY NAME POP UP IN THE KILLFEED FOR THEM TO FIRE

EVERY.
FUCKING.
GAME.
I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE

FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>579450459
>The UE5 engine becoming industry standard and is fucking everywhere as a comparison is perfectly accurate.
UE5 is a boogeyman, not the culprit. The culprit is laziness. It's perfectly possible to optimize UE5 to run on weaker hardware. Fortnite and Expedition 33 are two examples that come to mind supposedly anyway, I've played neither. Lumen/Nanite seems to be the cause of most of the performance issues, and is fucking endemic at this point. Apparently you can build your entire rendering engine around that shit, which Borderlands 4 seems to have done, so you can't turn it off, and it just nukes your performance.

>>579451097
>Queue up for H40s
>hardstuck player on a sub-par class that requires an excellent player to perform adequately
>wipes repeatedly
Not very surprising.
>Is this a Monday thing
Monday resets your havoc assignment so there are more players. The only phenomenon that is occuring, is that more players are around, which increases the number of severe retards that will accept anyone including (You).
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>>579450459
I think your dooming way too hard.
Game engines becoming more standardized isnt the end of the world. Most of these in-house engines were developed years ago and are outdated and buggy as fuck at this point.
Good companies will figure out how to make due and optimize whatever the standard will be while the shitty ones will continue producing the same dog shit they have been making for the last decade.
Honestly think that in a world where anyone can produce slop, large studios are actually going to have to be a lot more creative.
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>>579451440
>Do fuck-all to a boss, instead focus on the horde/disablers
>Waft like a singular fart from my staff into the nearby Chaos Spawn
>it dies
>see the team gimp- I mean, the team zealot physically stop moving out of shock and anger
>he gets his bearings and we move on

Aahh. Another hard-carried Havoc 40 game by yours truly.
*sips my pumpkin spice latte*
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>>579452584
Almost believable until you suggested a zealot dealing 99% damage to a boss, in a havoc 40 context.
>stealthfag
DECLINED
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>>579442028
If you're not going to be doing a bunch of shooting, I wouldn't run ACD, but you can swap your build to something more like the this if you really wanna keep ACD. Keep in mind, I haven't played something like this before. I usually play melee builds, and my one ACD is pretty much all in on the Arc Rifle.

Anyway, I tried to get you some more defensive stuff and swap some damage around. Arc Maul isn't a great crit weapon, and you're not running VE or the base ability for guaranteed electrocutes, so a lot of the top damage nodes are probably not benefiting you all that often right now. Some bonus melee damage on ranged kills (which noosy will be shitting out for you) will have extremely high uptime. If you aren't using ACD often enough to be generating charges constantly, swap Sequenced Charge back to Channeled Motive Force.
>dropping extra reserve ammo and Gunsmith
Per your own words, you're mostly just shooting ranged elites and snipers (and specials), so you shouldn't be having ammo problems, and the autoguns don't have bad reload times.

>blessings/perks
Swap the +2 stam on the maul for flak damage. Also, I do like Enhanced Arcs on my Arc Maul, but that might not be as good without the electric explosion. I can't remember whether or not arc maul arcs jump better when there're more electrocuted enemies.
And for your gun, swap to the semi-auto vigilant if that's not the one (the fucking name changes reeee) and replace Deadly Accurate with Headhunter. You don't have enough crit for DA to be good. The vigilants aren't the best, but the semi-auto Vigilant made for a decent special and ranged chaff/elite killers in Auric at least when I last played it on my Vet. You may be able to drop one of the perks for Unyielding to help with Reapers, but check your breakpoints. That's ultimately not a big deal.

But yeah, what the one anon said about working on your fundamentals is 100% true. Your built isn't the real reason you're getting killed.
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>>579452746
>he doesn't know
Anon, are you asking me to post another smug anime girl? Sure seems like it.
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>>579452783
Please stop giving advice if you unironically suggest taking the skull without med skull.
>>579452872
>vagueposting as if you have some hidden knowledge
Stealthfags do not belong in havoc 40. They crumble and fail to do anything when the director decides to spawn a boss rush, and good lineups bully and rape any number of bosses without issue anyway. Damage zealot has been dead for over a year now, and only keeps getting forced because darktards are extremely bad at their own game.
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>>579452746
you can't decline me if I'm hosting the lobby >:)
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>>579452584
That H40 Zealot was me.
Why do you take pleasure ruining the only joy i have left in the game...

>>579452746
>Autistic screeching because you NEED chorus to drag your coward ass over the finish line
>He doesn't even know how shroud works
KYS NIGGA
YOU'RE THE SAME AS BREED AS FLAMESTAFF USERS
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>>579453046
>Please stop giving advice if you unironically suggest taking the skull without med skull.
He's asking for an auric build, retard
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>>579453184
>Why do you take pleasure ruining the only joy i have left in the game...
Because it's the only joy I have left in this game anymore.
>True Survivor
>Poxbreaker
>Havoc 40 assignment for months now
What else there is left to do, grind out the last 20-odd achievements? What for?
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>>579452170
>Most of these in-house engines were developed years ago and are outdated
Outdated doesn't mean anything when it can be updated
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>>579453184
Sounds like you're traumatized from getting declined too often.
>>579453219
You're spending 1 point on summoning your cannon fodder familiar that probably dies within the next 2 minutes, but for those 2 minutes vaguely keeps enemies off your ass by passively drawing aggro so you take less harassment while carrying the barrel or whatever. It tends to have more value than any other single point, so if you're already there, you would be severely retarded to not take it.
Even if you want to be as selfish as physically possible, using the skull to help the occasional retard up, and not having to waste your time doing so manually, will help you more than any other single skill point.
The only reason to skip it is if you're some crab bucket mentality slavgroid, and do everything in your power to pull your teammates down because how DARE they get a big number on the scoreboard. Pathetic faggot.
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>>579408082
High crit chance and insta kill on Maniac with a headshot
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>>579453046
Who's saying anything about stealth? Just run the Eviscerator and melt bosses
>muh book
Havoc-Forged shitter cope, let me guess - you also need a shout vet, bubble psyker and a tauntgryn?
>inb4 you throw another melty
I do not care about your fucking meta nor your oppinion, shitter, I've played hundreds of h40 games and the ones adhering to the cookie cutter loadouts and lineups are the most boring ones.
(You) don't belong in H40, let people (i.e. skilled white western male humans) play what they want. stop pretending you know it all
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>>579453830
>skilled white western male humans
Brown meltie detected. Cute LARP though.
>unironically suggesting to run the eviscerator
I'm fucking giggling my man
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>>579343370
I had fun with the Deadzone Rogue 2 playtest.

People were generally really nice and helpful with pointing out gear that other people on the team may need and the game doesnt insult you by calling the entire playerbase "rejects rise" like ScatTide does.
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>>579435191
The game really isnt balanced for anything other than 4 player full lobbies and extremely hostile to solos. Which is why ME3MP is still around over a decade later and the first Aliens fireteam (i am not calling it Fireteam elite those discordniggers can choke on a cargoloader fist) was DOA within a year because the discordniggers were more concerned with tone policing and banning their customerbase on discord than balancing the game and adding new content.


They even went back on their word and made expansions paid DLCs along with half of the game's loot unlocks. The marines and stuff look great but thats all the game has going for it because it falls apart the moment you try higher difficulties as a solo player even if you have meta class builds and top tier guns + attachments.
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>>579453948
>he doesn't actually know
I mean since you asked nicely, sure, here you go.

This is how I know you're a shitter, by the way, since you are clearly not h40 and you can't afford to lose a game or two to figure out stuff for yourself, and/or you haven't seen actually good players achieve great results with stuff other than the retarded braindead nigger meta.
Eviscerator is unironically good, but sure, stick to le relic blade, mate
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>>579453554
It is genuinely easy as fuck to revive people 99% of the time in Auric. Just put Ally Revive speed on your curios.
>It tends to have more value than any other single point
No, it's a convenience pick the overwhelming majority of the time in Auric. There are few times you actually need it. You're taxing yourself for no real reason. Maybe it has more value for the anon since he seems newer to the game. If he wants to run it, that's fine. But it's far from a mandatory pick in Auric, and you're outing yourself for claiming it is.
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>>579454746
NTA but you've got 30 talents and 9 curio slots, it's clear which are more valuable.
I'd rather drop a 1/30 talent to spawn said NPC aggro scarecrow than waste 3 curio slots to maybe pick someone slightly faster once in a while.
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>>579454569
Anon the FotF eviscerator exploit isn't exactly some well-hidden secret, you must be extremely new to pretend like you have some hidden esoteric knowledge. It's pathetic enough that you rely on an exploit, but using a useless ability to grief your team, and the implication of not running +10% crit aura for your team, are even more damning. No need to pride yourself in being carried to 40 as a token purity aura pick during AIDS season. I wouldn't even have to look at your build, my mod would just auto decline you.
>>579454746
I agree that reviving shitters is easy, but you aren't seeing the bigger picture. If the shitter doesn't get revived in a reasonable time frame, your other two shitters will very likely also go down or die in the process. This happens so fucking often it's really annoying. Going over there and doing so manually is a waste of your time and
>spending 3 curio perks when you could spend 1 skill point
3 curio perks tend to be worth more than 1 skill point.
>mandatory
No, opportunity cost. You can stop coping by implying things I never said. Revive skull is extremely valuable point wise. You are retarded for skipping it. It's not like the build you posted is non-viable for it, it's fine, I just think it's fucking retarded to take a worthless pathing node just to force in weakspot capacitance, but that's less of an offender than skipping the med skull. Especially since you're trying to give advice to an obvious newfag, who is already struggling to even play. He needs his teammates you disingenuous jeet.
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Would anyone like to play darktide?
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>>579455042
>a worthless pathing node just to force in weakspot capacitance,
And, of course
>inb4 this fucking retard means to imply that weakspot damage does anything on an extremely low finesse weapon because he doesn't know how the math works
I can already see it coming.
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>>579453525
Easier said then done when your codebase is a frankenstein that has been dragged through 3 console generations.
Like I can't think of a single studio that has its own engine that doesnt have serious issues with bug fixing. As much as I want to blame laziness and incompetence, it seems to be such a common problem that perhaps everyone switching to a common, flexible base isnt the worse.
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>>579455338
>that doesnt have serious issues with bug fixing.
That's all engines anon. It all comes down to money and the suites who don't care about setting time aside and hiring contract programmers to assist with fixes.
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>Read steam reviews about no more room in hell 2
>They're mostly positive, but almost every negative review mentions how other players keep stealing all the loot and how that ruins the game for others
>Buy the game
>Play for hours
>Turns out no one is actually hoarding, instead everyone is sharing and is generally super nice and helpful
I realized that you get connected to the best server for you, i.e the closest one, so this might actually just be a third world issue.
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Okay, let's assume I am completely fucking retarded (because I am).

How hard would it be for Fatshark to switch engines? Alternatively, how hard would it be for actual non-sw*dish developers to do so?

Is it even possible?
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>>579435696
You are either moonmoon or you watch moonmoon, I'm onto you.
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>>579455146
Depends: do you look like that?
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>>579455942
It's a can of worms. Cloning all of Darktide's mechanics into a different engine is the easy part. Porting all the assets over and getting animations and shit to work, is a lot of man hours. Debugging and optimizing nu-tide on this new engine is the actual nightmare, and so is shipping that shit to every console and PC hardware constellation imaginable.
>Is it even possible?
Yes, but it's not worth doing. Why would you even consider it? The engine isn't bad, the only thing that's broken is whatever they're using for audio. You could just rip that out and patch or rewrite it. It would be less work than switching engines entirely.
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>>579454998
>NTA but you've got 30 talents and 9 curio slots, it's clear which are more valuable.
Kind of, but how many of those curios slots are really valuable? You get your Gunner Res, CDR, and then you have 3 free slots to play with, the best of which is ally revive speed. Skit doesn't need the stamina regen, and the 5% toughness/HP perks are pretty niche. BCR isn't bad, and it's another option that helps you revive allies.

>>579455042
> your other two shitters will very likely also go down or die in the process.
No, I understand that point. In my experience, non-Maelstroms aren't really that extreme. But it still doesn't change the fact that reviving people generally isn't hard to do. We get by just fine playing and reviving people on other classes. But somehow, people see an easy revive button and suddenly forget that.
>This happens so fucking often it's really annoying.
That is not my experience at all in Auric. Maybe that's the source of our disagreement.
>Revive skull is extremely valuable point wise.
It really isn't. None of this shit you're saying changes the fact that it fundamentally isn't difficult to get revives off, significantly decreasing the talent's value. At least that's my experience having never needed it below Maelstroms in ~100 Skit levels.
>3 curio perks tend to be worth more than 1 skill point.
As above. Anyway, I'd rather do slightly more damage than take a node that I don't get much use out of at all and won't prevent a down to begin with. To be clear, I'm not saying the med skull is bad. I'm just saying that it's not necessary and often superfluous in Auric.
>opportunity cost.
The opportunity cost is low either way. Most curio perks aren't that great.

>>579455276
>worthless
>I can already see it coming.
>this retard didn't test a node in a Fatshark game
It's a pretty decent node as long as you're hitting heads. You do hit heads, right? I'm sorry you're a dogmatic retard who doesn't test things for himself and can't revive people.
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>>579455942
>How hard would it be for Fatshark to switch engines?
Extremely hard, you need to take into account that the engine they'd be switching to would support what players would expect from them.
And the time it would take to build a game from absolute scratch. From code to just minor assets like a cup or something would have to made from the bottom.

People who advocate for "just switching engines" don't know how development works or how costly that shit it. It reminds me of the people who think that Bethesda should abandon Creation Engine in favor of UE5 because UE5 is pretty.
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>>579456023
He's not moonmoon.
>how do you know that
Because I do not actually know that lmao how the fuck would I know that nigga hahahahahahaha
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>>579456318
I've made my points and concluded that you are indeed as irredeemably retarded as I thought, my spiritually brown friend.
>It's a pretty decent node as long as*
*you ignore that you have direct access to +15% damage on stamina spend (free, constant uptime) and +25% damage to ogryns and bosses, netting you much better damage even with your gun. RCR barely even matters for the gun either, because that assumes you're shooting trash, which is an embarrassing habit to have, and not something you should ever do until you're finished with the ACD penance (and then kick that ability into the trash where it belongs).
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>>579456329
>Bethesda should abandon Creation Engine in favor of UE5 because UE5 is pretty.

They should, though, but not because of that reason, and not necessarily into UE5.

Speaking of, I think UE5 fucking sucks optimization-wise and is not even THAT good looking, considering the former point.
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>>579456674
I honestly can't tell if you're a shitposter or just genuinely an idiot.
>*you ignore that you have direct access to +15% damage on stamina spend
And you ignore pathing. 2% on weakspot kill is a good node, especially since the crit one is less valuable with a low crit weapon. Actual mental deficit.
>and +25% damage to ogryns and bosses
Again ignoring pathing. And only on ranged attacks, when anon specifically stated that he was mostly just using his ranged weapon for gunners and specials (inb4 le Reapers are hard to kill with a Vigilant). You didn't forget that we were discussing a build I was recommending for someone based on what they were looking for, right?
>RCR barely even matters for the gun either, because that assumes you're shooting trash
So you did forget. Thank you for confirming. I also don't see how that would assume you're shooting trash. Are you intentionally body shotting gunners and specials or some shit?
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>>579456967
>I think UE5 fucking sucks optimization-wise
No, stop parroting that uninformed opinion. See >>579451521
It's actually even worse. It's retarded devs ticking every box and tanking your performance because they're retarded and lazy. You're hating on the engine when you should hate the devs.
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>>579457095
>you should hate the devs
But I do that already, innately, regardless of the engine in question.
I was just looking for more things to (righteously) hate.
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>>579457052
>2% on weakspot kill is a good node,
It's mediocre because it only has value for as long as trash is around, and if we are going by the original build that was posted, the arc maul is exceptionally bad at hitting many heads in a row compared to higher finesse options that naturally cleave and decapitate multiple poxers in a single swing.
>Again ignoring pathing.
What pathing is being ignored? It's all the way on the right. You've already pathed there.
Your immense overconfidence is fucking baffling.
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How do we know exactly if the ratjeet didn't actually ban evade and is currently doing their shtick again?
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>>579457095
It's not the devs anon, every since UE3, Unreal has had baked in post-processing affects that can't be turned off, it's gotten worse with UE5 and Lumen, where every affect has a light and reflection map.
Devs can only do so much, the only game that actually pushed Unreal to its limits was Arkham Knight and it ran on modified version of UE3
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>>579457274
>I was just looking for more things to (righteously) hate.
If you're going to get angry, get angry at, and attack, the correct things. Getting upset over arbitrary and incorrect bullshit will get you nowhere and is just a drain on your energy.
>>579457470
>UE5 and Lumen
Yes anon, that was mentioned in the post I quoted. Positive examples of UE5 running on weaker hardware exist, because they turn that off. Just because 99% of devs are lazy niggers doesn't mean the engine is at fault.
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>>579457547
>Positive examples of UE5 running on weaker hardware exist
post them
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>>579457652
It's mostly small indie games you may have never heard of
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This general has a high amount of vitriol
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>>579457430
simple
>look for signs of not being able to let go of an argument
>rapedthatfreak-posting
>le enlightened both-sides posting
>mentioning how VT2 is a better game and not a dead vegetative meme
>samefagging (or accusing others of doing so)
>absolutely unhinged, vitriolic insults whenever confronted
>calling for thread splitting
>reminiscing about le good old days, complaining about "tourists" and zoomers
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>>579457725
Fornite isn't exactly a demanding game to run dude. It's also made by Epic Games, you know, the people who own Unreal.
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I do not care for the Unreal Engine.
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>>579457971
>>Positive examples of UE5 running on weaker hardware exist
>Fornite isn't exactly a demanding game to run dude.
???
Yes that is exactly the point.
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>>579457343
>It's mediocre because it only has value for as long as trash is around
It's valuable when enemies that you can readily kill are on screen, which is most anything below Crushers, maybe Maulers. The Arc Maul doesn't get a ton of benefit from Flux Conduit Build-Up, indirectly making RCR a bit more appealing. I have no doubt you can get by without it, but it's pretty clear to me you're just nitpicking over minor differences now. Are there things that could be done differently? I'm sure. Ultimately we're in a territory of negligible differences at this point though, and you're suggesting things that have both positive and negative trade-offs to them. It's not like dropping RCR to take more damage is a pure upgrade.
>The arc maul is exceptionally bad at hitting many heads
it's on weakspot KILL, not hit, and I assume we both know how bad cleave damage tends to be, so this is mostly a moot point, but yes, it is better in this respect on weapons that are better at providing flat/fast cleaves.
>What pathing is being ignored? It's all the way on the right.
You were saying that I should be recommending certain damage nodes over the weakspot damage, regardless of the fact that the weakspot damage is tied to Noosy and ACD regen. Noosy is going to have a higher damage potential than another 15% damage node, no?
>Your immense overconfidence is fucking baffling.
You really wanna act like we aren't both extremely confident in our assertions, anon? Are you joking?
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>>579458057
play Stalker 2 on weaker hardware
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>>579458159
Anon are you fucking retarded?
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>>579458125
>The Arc Maul doesn't get a ton of benefit from Flux Conduit Build-Up,
The fuck? Any weapon benefits massively from it. Any build benefits from not having to path through borderline useless dogshit, effectively spending 2 points for a "good" node that is maybe worth 1.
>you're just nitpicking over minor differences now
Yes, it was nitpicking from the start, and you getting defensive over extremely retarded choices that have painfully obvious optimization routes informed by actual stress testing in actual games, not (You) lying about your auric teammates, not (You) lying about playing havoc.
>regardless of the fact that the weakspot damage is tied to Noosy and ACD regen.
ACD completely rapes your capacitance even when you reload "tech" it to stop the drain between fights, it's borderline incompatible with actually competent noosy use. Getting 2% capacitance on weakspot kill is cope at that point, on a build that doesn't use weapons that completely annihilate heads, which we seem to both agree is the case here.

You aren't making any points. You're arguing (and lying) for the sake of it because you're spiritually brown.
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>>579458249
Can you stop simping for unreal?
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>>579458663
I'm not simping for unreal, I'm pointing out that it's the lazy nigger devs' fault their games run poorly, not the engine's, because well-optimized unreal games exist, made by non-lazy non-nigger devs. Seeing UE5 is a fucking massive red flag to me too, not because the engine sucks, but because it implies the devs are going to be lazy niggers sharting out unoptimized slop that barely runs 30 FPS with fucking upscaling.
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>>579458639
>The fuck? Any weapon benefits massively from it.
>Any weapon benefits massively from an "on crit" condition regardless of its crit rate
Okay. I'm gonna play video games now
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>>579458830
>takes every crit node available on the tree
>um uhhhh I can't crit once every 4 seconds
That's a concession if I've ever seen one.
Fucking retarded sub-human filth.
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>>579459378
>guy-who-dies-first-sama
literally just call him a nigger
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>>579458981
>lower crit does not mean worse performance
bruh
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>>579459932
You only need to crit once every 4 seconds, how fucking retarded do you have to be?
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>>579457781
I mean at least the Vermintide point is not completely false.
3.5k players is not really that dead.
Abyssus, that game that was shilled ITT as the new DRG game a while back, yeah that's dead. Or Toxic Commando.
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>>579460319
>gives up after going down and votes yes to all kick votes
kek
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>>579460319
>that fucking webm
LMFAO
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>>579460319
my fucking sides
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>>579460319
Sometimes I'm still surprised how retarded and lazy devs thesedays are? How did they not seeing the pop-up like that was so stupid and worse, it didn't even work?
Like okay, the game was rushed out early, yet at the same time it seems like being made by unpaid interms or something.
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>>579460319
I'm surprised I haven't seen this abused before.
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>>579461783
Sweden is not a meritocracy, they have DEI, bureaucracy, and were, at the time of development, a proud leader in replacing white people with browns. Now, I don't mean to imply that fatshark is brown, they probably aren't, but it tells you a lot about the local culture. They are also horrendously mismanaged as is evidenced by their workplace culture of taking one fuckhuge vacation immediately after releasing a half-functioning DLC class and leaving it to an inept intern to patch and repeatedly break more and more until, something like a couple weeks after arbitrator release, an entire keystone was borderline non-functional for over a month.
You don't hate Sw*den enough.
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>>579462170
do you actually believe the horseshit that comes out of your mouth?
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>>579462638
Yes, Erik-Abdul Hassan.
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>>579461783
>>579462170

swedes are a very top>down culture, everything they do has to be agreed upon by everyone, they must have a consensus first in everything they do. I'm surprised they can wipe their own asses individually, but hey maybe that was agreed upon too.

Like if a swede has some problem he won't fix it, he will report it and sit on his hands waiting for the official party line on what to do, it's completely fucking alien to most of the world and I'm guessing especially hyper-individualistic Americans.

I'm not even going to mention the vacations and """life-work balance""", seeing as this is wildely known worldwide meme at this point.

Fuck sweden, and fuck the swedes.
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>>579463195
>getting defensive over Sw*den of all places
>getting defensive over the implication of being brown
Yep, looks like I hit the nail right on the head, full drive in a single strike.
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>>579463195
hi, ratjeet
how's your day been? how's the curry down in India?

I've always been meaning to ask, how do you guys deal with the smell? Do you grow numb to it or do you actually enjoy it?
And what's up with all that cow shit worship, seems gross to the rest of us, why do you do it?
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>>579464004
Ratjeet is the only one that spams this. You just outed yourself.
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>>579464058
Sorry, I figured I'd present picture proof.
This one right here, inquisitor.
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>>579464525
Nice damage control but everyone can tell who you are by how irredeemably brown you act.
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>samefagging
>not being able to let go of an argument
>poopdickshizoposting
>inane arguments over nothing
cool. it's not him guys, btw, totally.
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>>579464623
well ok you got me
im that jeet schizo and all the others too
its always been me
im the mastermind behind every post
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>>579462170
>an entire keystone was borderline non-functional for over a month
which one?
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>>579465238
Arbitrator's Execution Order had a wide slew of bugs. The only thing that worked correctly was marking enemies. It was so bad that its activation condition was borderline random.
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>>579463195
>>579464004
>>579464525
>forcibly drowned in his own diarrhea puddle barely 15 minutes into the would-be-19-hours-long meltie
I like these janitors. They are good people.
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>>579465379
Oh. I must've missed it completely lmao, never noticed a problem with it

I remember it was around that time they bumped up the health of the enemies, correct? I 'member my noobtube Arby's longnose shotgun becoming less effective and losing many breakpoints because of this shit
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>it actually was him

HAHA
HAHAHAHAHAH
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>579422318
>>579422105
thank god, i can finally play the game now
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>>579465634
It happened shortly after arbitrator release. The timeline was
>arbitrator releases with a lot of bugs
>half the studio is already packing their bags to go on vacation
>they scramble to fix the bugs
>this causes shit to break cumulatively with every hotfix, releasing a new one every other day basically
>there's like a week and a half of arbitrator's dog bleed being horrendously overpowered
>this eventually gets fixed and overcorrected into being rather bad
>by the time they go on vacation for good and close the studio down for a month, the keystone is completely broken (as in, not functioning)
I forget when the enemy buffs happened but I think it was after that?
Also the shotgun still hits some pretty decent breakpoints, you just need to build a little differently now. The +15% damage on reload top center is actually, unironically strong with any of the shotguns, and I consider it to be better than the adjacent nodes. Cleave attack speed only triggers when you're surrounded by trash, on a class that should be making single target combos into elites. Damage on elite kill is good, but slightly harder to trigger than simply reloading, and is almost never active during boss fights.
No Escape is the "correct" choice, but Withering Fire is terribly underrated with the shotguns.
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Holy fuck just talk about video games, how hard is that?
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>>579466579
Complaining about not talking about video games is also not talking about video games, hypocrite-sama.
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>ratjeet got banned again
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>>579466859
Or it's more likely it's ratjeet concern trolling again on his third ban evasion, because he's the only one that got triggered by talk that vaguely veered into the off-topic.
See >>579343995
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>>579465621
People have gotten away with shitposting for several hours straight and that fucking retard is such an insufferable faggot that he gets cocksmacked almost instantly
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Did… did the ratjeetard just get BTFO for the second time in a row? Holy shit. This guy really was ban evading.
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>>579466645
yup

>>579466405
>Withering Fire gamer
mah nigga

Even still, I miss the old tube, it just feels like you're burning through wayyy more ammo than you used to, on a Douglass build.
It used to feel like you're an actual fuckin' robocop terminator, now you're still kinda that but not really, and the ammo goes out the fucking window
>inb4 that aura
I'm selfish, and fuck that +10% it's next to nothing
also I'm not so sure on running Malocator vs Final Warning vs Target Priority, FW seems like it would have a relatively low uptime when you actually need it, same goes for Target Prio

inb4 some havoc player has a spergout - all of this is for Auric Maelstroms only
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>>579467282
this build is fine for havok actually
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>>579467282
No no, that is pretty much exactly how you completely shotgunmaxx.
Stance is fucking retarded of course, as is going pure ranged-focus arguably, but this is basically how you maximize fun with the shotgun even if I think it's retarded.
>>inb4 that aura
Reload aura is the correct choice on shotgun builds. +10% damage is indeed next to nothing, and it has a lot of pathing tax.
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>>579467473
>stance in havoc
LOL
Consult >>579413282
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>>579467473
'avoque, chef?
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You know what? I'm gonna start calling it havok even harder.
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>>579467803
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>>579467803
It makes me think of this so stop it.
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>>579468550
fine.
But I do find it funny how some people go ballistic over it
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>>579468550
This is exactly the only source he has ever seen, read, or heard that word used, because he is an illiterate brown ESL retard that insists a physics engine to be the origin of a word that is some 400-600 years old at the minimum.
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>>579467271
It's extra funny because his ego is clearly reliant on his belief that he's some kind of smart and expertly troll but he's so obvious that he instantly got caught and his retarded plan flopped
>ratjeet
He isn't a rat or a darktide poster, he's just a faggot trying to stir shit
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Cry havok and let slip the props of war
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>how about I fucking kill you? how about that?
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>>579469007
made me kek
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>>579468550
>>579468678
see?
case in point:>>579468702

I was the one that quoted Shakespeare yesterday, frothing-with-rage-berserker-kun, redirect your brown slaying anger elsewhere
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>>579469092
>>>/b/ is over there, friend.
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>>579468986
>He isn't a rat or a darktide poster, he's just a faggot trying to stir shit
We're not falling for it, ratjeet.
I see you have flashed your router already.
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>>579469397
You did this yesterday too. Me pointing out that you are just a retarded shitstirrer that attacked both games ruins your plan to cause a coopg civil war
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>>579469615
>coopg civil war
NTA but that's not really possible, since literally no one but him cares

Most of the people here are here just to fuck around and discuss builds, or get unreasonably, personally fuckass mad over perceived slights (someone disagreeing).

He's literally the only one that starts stupid shit like that, that's why he stands out so much.

>>579469007
kek
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>>579469615
Do I need to post it again? The image that caused ratjeet to go nuclear?
Come on, we're on an image board. Use your funny smarmy reaction images, I dare you to step on the landmine that is you being too tech illiterate to practice opsec. Get yourself banned again.
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The rat poster could be in this very thread! It could be (You)! It could be me!
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>>579470016
IT COULD EVEN BE-
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>>579469924
You're far too retarded to pull off this falseflag attempt. You just downloaded the other guy's screenshot and are posting it for the first time to pretend like you aren't the jeet.
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>>579470016
How would you describe the state of Vermintide?
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>>579470205
>falseflag attempt
What, the exact thing you are doing, you pathetic brown freak? You're not going to restore your izzat after >>579343995 and >>579464361
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>>579470113
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>>579469615
>ruins your plan to cause a coopg civil war
That was never their plan.
They wanted to spread paranoia, suspicion, and doubt.
So far they have succeeded on a frightening scale.
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>>579470345
Holy fuck, you're boring. You're never going to find anyone who's less intelligent than you who you can trick, so you might as well spare us the cringe and give up now
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it's not "their" it's one singular mentally ill brown nigger
and we're not paranoid we're tired of his ban-evading, shit stirring nonsense
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>>579470806
He's also hyping himself up again pretending he "won" when everyone is just cringing at his tangibly brown behavior.
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>>579470908
yup
fuck him and fuck talking about him

What's (You)r favorite class, anon?
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>>579470563
Oh look, they guy who got caught pretending to be other people is pretending to be other people
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>>579470972
The skitarius. I bet you thought I was going to say uninstall wizard. Double gotcha. Pubniggers piss me off to no end, and being able to just skip objectives entirely solves like half the problem with them.
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The jeet lost
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>>579470793
I don't see why not, even it if is a bit unorthodox; I can't see any other threads on the catalog where it would be better discussed, at least.
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>>579471109
Nice. I like him too, well designed class.
Mine is the psyker, he feels way better than VT2 Sienna; I usually never play mages in vidyagaems and psyker is one massive exception from that rule. I love sliding around and burning/blowing niggas up, even if it gets repetitive sometimes Also he IS the uninstall wizard. Gotcha nigger
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>>579471384
From what little I played VT2, I kinda preferred Sienna over DT psyker. Burning (temp) HP to vent makes more sense to me than the tacked on heat-but-not-heat mechanic that psyker has, and there was actual weapon variety unlike psyker staves.
Then again I only played the babby difficulties and then decided the game wasn't for me and never touched it again, so I have no informed opinion on the balance like I do in regards to Darktide.
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>>579460319
>Sophie
BASED FUCKING CHUDYKER
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>>579471547
Sienna had way better staves, but no sliding and friendly fire made them more awkward to use, psyker is both more mindless and can achieve more imho
But yeah, they screwed the pooch on transferring the weapons between the games, only 2 are viable which was not the case in VT
>>579471547
>babby difficulties
oh the Cata/DWONS scene also had meta, and semi-religious adherents to said meta, iirc she either was never picked or people chose the "Voidblast" one in most cases

why do you like the skit?
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>>579471917
>why do you like the skit?
Making auric pubs palatable thanks to the skull is a big one. Tranny blade sliding being fast as fuck without giving up horde clear like the knife does it, is another. Noospheric Command opening up a lot of secondary weapons is another big one, but also probably my favorite skill in general. I wish the dog were half as good as noosy.
I don't really like skit's skill tree though. The freedom is just an illusion with all the awkwardly placed dogshit tax nodes, and it's swimming in uncreative and boring 15%ers because they can't afford to put actually strong or interesting nodes in the tree when you can get literally anywhere within 5 points of investment.
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The most obnoxious part of these brown shitstirrers is the paranoia it causes
>currently enjoy both VT2 and DT but have my issues with both of them
>post something positive about VT2
>RATFAG RATFAG IT'S HIM
>post something negative about VT2
>LOWERCASE FAG GET HIM IT'S LOWERCASE JEETFAG
>post something positive about DT
>IT'S THAT GUY AGAIN IT'S THE UHHH CANADIAN GUY
>post something negative about DT
>HOLY FUCK IT'S THE UPPERCASE SCHIZO

like holy shit I have never been accused of being different people as much as here. It's a thing on most generals but it's a new level here, there is no opinion you can hold without tripping some perma online sleeper incel
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>>579472436
It's only bad at certain hours here; I'd say the Warframe general is worse by a country mile in that regard, with a feud between multiple autists nobody else cares about that has been stretching on for, unironically, ~13 years.
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>>579472487
>deleted in a single second
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I would like to point out, once again, that ratfag has been concern trolling in the exact, 1:1 way that 579472436 is posting right now.
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>>579472701
You're right dude I'm actually one of those schizos for real, thanks for keeping this general clean
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>>579472436
/gflex/ has multiple tripnigs that i have had to filter out
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>>579442028
>more retarded no-ability noosphere shit
Man I get it, it works, but god what a boring way to play and also, giving it to a newbie who is struggling with skit is such a stupid sweaty retard thing to do. And being literally one point away from taking Voltaic Emitter so you at least have a decent sized stun... man, do not take builds from sweatlords.

Anyway I see you've been given Skitarii essays already so I'll just say, if you're having trouble staying on your feet, Overcharge Transfer Lattice (up at the top right before Voltaic Emitter) is the best single-point defensive option on the tree.
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>>579464723
>>579472840
Not very subtle on the samefagging either. He does that too.
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>>579472436
They don't get the point of anonymity, so they keep trying to attach identities to anons instead of just sitting on the contents of posts. Attacking the person instead of what they're saying is the low IQ way to argue and I fear many of them aren't even brown
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>>579472220
Noosy is insanely broken, like I've been trying to tell my friends how strong is killing a special/any taggable enemy, really, WITHOUT pulling out your weapon (or even a fucking zealot knife), mid swing. And they're not listening, they're not buying it.

And ON TOP of that, it also stacks a burn, and increases dmg taken, which is a multiplicative increase for everyone, by the fucking way.

Not taking the skull with noosy is active griefing imo, idk how strong the grenade would have to be to compete
>shield
lol
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>>579472901
Look closely. That's an ACD build.
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>>579472926
It's kind of hilarious that you're accusing random people so much that you keep getting that walt image back
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>>579455625
Isn't NMRH2 a pure co-op game?
i mean are we talking medkits or ammo in the run? or the actual meta-progress resources? who would make a co-op game where only the player who picks it up get's the material/currency/loot whatever?
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>>579473065
Sorry I just woke up, you're right.
>ACD
>autogun
Imagine I posted the same frog again but looking even more distressed.
Anyway the Overcharge Transfer Lattice thing was the main thing I wanted to mention to actually help the guy.
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>>579473079
Except for the part where >>579464623 was in direct reply to ratjeet who got banned.
Is that more revisionism I see, ratjeet?
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>>579472701
of course he has
same goes for >>579472939
last time he even did this "ooh this general is usually so bad at this and this time, compared to that general it's blah blah blah" like >>579472581
said

it's even samefagging again
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>>579473080
Picking up supplies counts toward everyone when you pick them up. You can't horde them (except for the rare spawn samples because that item takes up inventory space but everyone gets the bonus when you extract anyways so it can't even be hoarded in that instance either).
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>H40
>Having a good run until our Ogryn runs too far ahead to clear a ritual and we get split
>Wipe
>Arbitrator who kept dying starts flaming me for running exe stance, recon lasgun and smokes support build
What exactly is it about the Arbitrator that attracts the biggest poo poo pee pee babies in the game? Also, how do you even die ever on Arbitrator?
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>>579473338
You got me apparently I'm that guy too lmao
See what I mean?
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The jeet just can't let his defeat slide. He MUST reclaim his izzat
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>>579473342
Wait so >>579472581 and >>579472939
are him too?

Could you list all the posts in this thead who you think are him? And no need to list mine, since you'll already have it included as the reply link when you answer. Consider it the free space in the bingo
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>>579473414
The class literally carries them, and gives them a false sense of "skill"
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>>579473538
The cycles of izzat must continue.
>I called out the ratfag
>And yet, I am not the one that banned him

It's fucking hillarious how he will never stop getting ratio'd
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>>579473414
Arbitrator is the retard crutch class and gets even the dumbest niggers through most of the game.
>up to heresy, the dog hard carries
>in damnation and auric, having 6 gorillion toughness makes even the biggest retard unkillable without having to learn how to dodge
>never mind the sheer amount of impact actually rewarding mindless leftclick flailing
>in havoc 20-30, LW shock mines replaces the need of knowing how to melee or pass a single DPS check
I'm confused as to how they managed to go from 30 to 40, but maybe they just got carried once, or signed up for a carry in a premade.
A vast majority of even h40 arbitrators are significantly, severely retarded. If you don't believe me, I suggest you inspect their builds and tally every time you see one with
>dog without both Voltaic Mandibles and Canine Morale
>no Concussive
>bending over backwards to take Breaking Dissent
>retard stance
>no Target the Weak
>no Soulguilt Scan
>EO without Keeping Protocol
>pathing to Forceful without True Grit
>>>>Terminus Warrant
I'd arguably call LW shock mines retarded too, since you really don't need LW for shock mines to be excellent, but at least that does SOMETHING when the arbitrator is fucking braindead.
But seriously, try and tally those up. The ratio is probably something like 1:10 of actually good builds versus complete and utter drooling retards.
The worst part is, honestly, that arbitrator is mediocre even at its peak, so anyone with a retarded build uses it because they're retarded players too, with predictably useless performance.
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>>579473864
>ratio'd
What does this mean? Been seeing it
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>>579474141
Anons, let's ratio this newfag
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>>579474141
Let's ratio the ratiofag by (You)ing the newfag
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>>579474141
you got no diff'ed btw
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>>579474191
Wow
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>>579474042
>True Grit?
more like
TRUE SHIT
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>>579474141
It's twitter lingo, the ratio between likes and comments that tells people someone's post is getting dunked on without reading further. Shit doesn't belong here, but this site is full of twitterfags these days, just look at the absolute state of /v/.
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is darktide better than vermintide 2? How is the winds of magic dlc for v2?
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>>579475167
Better is a subjective term but I don't think VT2 has aged very gracefully, I'll put it that way.
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>>579473342
>last time he even did this "ooh this general is usually so bad at this and this time, compared to that general it's blah blah blah"
What the fuck are you on about, you hyper-paranoid nigger? Pointing out the fact that shitposting ramps up at certain times is some sort of flag to you?
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>>579476476
check the archive, I'm too lazy to screencap it for you
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>>579476476
>>579476545
It is right here. >>579343995 and also picrel which is >>579191498 in the archive.
Does the archive even show posts that were banned?
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>>579476778
Well it seems to show the post, but not that it was deleted. I guess I'll keep expanding my personal archive so I can continue to humiliate ratjeet whenever he shows up.
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>>579476971
b4k shows you deleted posts, and marks them accordingly

co-op (cooperative) games of the video variety general thread
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>>579475167
This might sound a bit contradictory, but I think that VT2 is a much better game while also being unpleasant to return to after having played Darktide. Fatshark made a ton of (in my opinion) really bad design choices for Darktide despite having implemented far superior variants of those design aspects in VT2, but the core of the game--the actual in-mission moment-to-moment gameplay, including movement, melee play, and gunplay--in Darktide are just so much smoother. The movement in particular is much nicer, which is probably the biggest factor in VT2 feeling outdated as >>579475347 describes.
>>579476545
>>579476778
I don't know about the whole grammar critique or that it's just the same small cadre giving themselves (You)s, but anecdotally speaking the thread absolutely seems to become significantly more hostile around this time of day.
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>>579477078
>unpleasant to return to after having played Darktide

That was an unexpected kick in the teeth, I've played ratlick for 1.2k hours and dropped it for 2.5 years - and when I came back I kept dying on legend, like a malicelet, when I could clear Cata with a team no prob before
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>>579477078
>anecdotally speaking the thread absolutely seems to become significantly more hostile around this time of day.
There was one particularly obstinate shitposter that historically did his shitposting sprees approximately +/- 1 hour from now, for about I want to say 4~5 hours most days, but usually less time than that. Some posters called him Canadian, an Australian claimed to be him, and I believe someone said he was Polish or something.
I assume you are referring to that pattern of shitposting. No idea if that was one retard, who that retard was, or maybe it's the same person as ratjeet. No way of knowing, doesn't matter, but it is true.
Regardless, ratjeet has factually proven to be a major concern troll, as his 19-hour-long meltdown involved multiple such attempts AND samefagging to create false consensus.
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>>579477183
Sure, here's an idea: Don't.
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Darktide is a solved game.
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>>579478210
Can't argue with that
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>>579478210
Don't worry, they'll surely shake up the meta soon by
>looks at notes
deleting the rumbler from existence, introducing another DLC class that somehow ends up being low-tier in havoc, and buffing soulblaze by another +2%
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>>579478210
That's fine, I wanted a co-op shooter/slasher game not a mystery puzzle.
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Do tech-priests need to eat? Do Skitarii? Does Mars have regular people on it or is literally everyone there chromed tf up?
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>>579479840
most organs are removed in admech except for titan princeps
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>>579479840
magos galeo in sm2 frequently mentions being annoyed that his last "digestive cartridge" contained recaf
presumably they're all just getting IV nutrients, depending on the level of augmentation
mars has regular people but their state of normalcy doesn't last long, even the menials are going to get their eyes gouged out and replaced
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*farts*
Sorry, sah! I think those rashuns might have gone bad!
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>>579483018
LOOOL
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>>579416439
I've never seen the dog move a poxburster by jumping on it, but I know for sure poxbursters can bounce off a dog that walks into them after the pb has been shoved or it's leapt at you.
I don't have 20 bajillion hours in the game, only about 150 but I've seen this happen 2 or 3 times and then I looked it up to find people posting videos complaining about it.

I also believe the dog can knock players around, but I've never seen anyone mention that. It makes sense because they have such a high stagger.

>>579428239
I think maybe Voidblast staff instead of inferno
OR you don't need 2nd weapon to be used for horde clearing, because you stack cooldown regen and use venting shriek to regularly sweep hordes and finish off survivors with your perfectly fine 1-handed force sword.
I found the 1handed force sword is like the dueling sword: bad at horde clearing at low difficulty, but at high difficulty horde enemies can take 2 hits to kill so a fast weapon that guarantees one-hit-kill is now good for clearing.
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The thread is so quiet that nobody will know I plan to take the heavy sword to a havoc
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>>579471917
>but no sliding and friendly fire made them more awkward to use
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>>579488032
I'll accept a vet bringing it because that means he'll never pull out his melee for anything more than trash, implying he'll shoot a lot.
It's also just actually good enough to be worth using on scum. Had a heavy sword scum once, and he didn't stand out in a particularly good or bad way.
>>579489165
Obviously NTA but in darktide you can initiate a slide and immediately charge your staff, continuing to move at slide speed and thus bypassing the speed penalty that charging your staff would nominally have. And friendly fire should be obvious. Both of those are definitely more awkward than darktide psyker.
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>>579489431
I mean I don't think dodge sliding- and sprinting for al that matters, are a good thing
Sure they are fun and make the gameplay smooth, but they look stupid and unnecessary
The friendly fire in ratclick was necessary, since ranged attacks are obviously more powerful than melees, and people would use nothing but shotte and gunpowder rather than steel
I'm actually guilty of dodge-sliding while charging my staff as a psygger, and while I could never play Darktide without it
I do routinely come back to ratclick to play the events, and don't have any problems playing Sienna after psyggin' so much
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>>579489714
Sprinting is a necessity because shooters exist, regardless of your feelings on the matter. Doing away with sliding means at least massively reducing the number of shooters, which would take away from the game's identity. If you want vermintide, play vermintide.
Most movement tech is fine, psyker sliding is definitely intended (or at least tolerated emergent gameplay), there's far more heinous shit like dodging off ledges, sliding during certain weapon animations, or the good ol' sliding around like a dog with worms spending only like 5 frames upright before sliding again. Those are definitely bad.
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>>579489860
>Sprinting is a necessity because shooters exist, regardless of your feelings on the matter. Doing away with sliding means at least massively reducing the number of shooters, which would take away from the game's identity. If you want vermintide, play vermintide.
Yeah I get it
Still can't wrap my head how stupid it looks when someone keeps dodge-sliding to reload
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>>579490067
It's even dumber when done with any of the shotguns.
>sprint, slide
>load a single shell
>interrupt reload to sprint, slide
>load a single shell
>repeat
although it's surprisingly not THAT APM intensive.
There's also other stupid movement tech that shouldn't even be in the game, like quick-swapping to a fast moving weapon to sprint and slide, then swapping back to your ranged weapon to shoot. Which staff psyker can do extremely well with a knife, for example. Or the opposite way around, with classes that have really slow and heavy melee weapons like arbitrator or zealot, just using a fast moving gun for sprinting and only pulling out melee to actually swing.
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>>579490191
>There's also other stupid movement tech that shouldn't even be in the game, like quick-swapping to a fast moving weapon to sprint and slide, then swapping back to your ranged weapon to shoot
This existed in ratlick as well, and moveteching is still a widespread issue
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>>579490356
>moveteching is still a widespread issue
shitter brown retard
i bet you seethe at people rushing ahead in both games
>hurrr vermintide 2 is so clunky and outdated now!!!!
guess how ratclickers feel about vermintide 1
i swear you guys have the iq of a pile of brown shit on train tracks.
gameplay evolution is inevitable, what is not inevitable and completely up to yourself is forgetting how to play a game you have played in the past
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The jeet is making a fool of himself again
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>>579490356
Sometimes I'm not sure how much of this is intended, whether the devs even KNOW, and whether they're even smart enough to fix it. I'd bet on "no" on all accounts.
It would be fucking trivial to fix at least most weapon swap bullshit by giving a significant acceleration penalty on weapon swap, that applies to speeds greater than the previously held weapon, so you can't just swap to your knife and instantly sprint at 8.0 speed or whatever it comes out to. You're locked to the 5.0 of your bolter, and need to spend a full 1.5 seconds sprinting before you reach full speed even with your knife.
And that's the conservative solution. They could always just flatten all of the weapon speed stats.
>>579490546
Idk what you're having a meltie over. I'm the kind of guy who movetechs through the level at sanic speeds, and I myself don't think it's healthy to have in the game. Sure I'll abuse it because I'm good at it after thousands of hours, but implicitly expecting a player to unnecessarily juggle that much APM is frankly retarded and easy to-

Right, yeah.
Ratjeet is back. Nigger.
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>>579489860
NTA But you got it wrong, technically you are always sprinting in Vermintide 2.
The baseline "running" movement speed of the U5 is greater than the Darktide rejects, while the optional "walking" speed is exactly the same.
I agree though, ratclick doesn't have patrols of 25 ratlings behind every corner, so a proper sprint function is kinda useless.
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>>579490749
Yeah I meant to say sprint sliding, not sprinting, my bad, it's late for me.
I like mission seeds that have few, or no shooters in them sometimes. It's chill not having to slide everywhere. Then again, playing enough h40s ingrains a certain trauma to shooters that makes it almost impossible to unlearn the habit.
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>>579490659
>Sometimes I'm not sure how much of this is intended
I feel like it's a deliberate choice to make the melee combat smoother
So yes it's intended and done on purpose like that
Have you ever played the horde modes of Chivalry 1, 2, and Mordhau? They are nowhere near as fun as the tide games because of the exact issue you just mentioned
Having to literally hug your enemies before you can chop their heads off feels awful and it's also super hard (in a game with no dodges that relies on parries with awful netcode), having a speed multiplier applied to attacks usually means you can charge an attack from further and still get the same results
It's why the melee combat of tide games is so good and satisfying, whoever was in charge of VT1 clearly understood what makes melee-centric games fun
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>>579490659
I think they just wanted to give penalties to big weapons and somewhat none to smaller arms as an attempt to give the game some sense of realism, like how you can't just break out a boltgun like Revolver Ocelot and then sprint at Mach 5.
Of course in classic Sw*den style they had no idea how frustrating this system is.
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>>579491037
I've played enough Mordhau to carcinize into lightly armored dodge-based spear infantry using colorless gear to flank and backstab groups and win 3v1s against sweats by just outranging and outrunning them in the most dishonorable way possible and regularly got flamed in all chat :^) I quit when the game became nothing but a lutenigger simulator because apparently nobody wanted to play the actual game anymore.
I hated the horde mode because I just wanted to run around at mach speeds poking things with my spear, not be forced to use peasant weapons for half the match. It had very little to do with the combat mechanics themselves. Oh also bots don't mistake you for a teammate and then have a meltdown in chat over getting backstabbed, which was half the fun.
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>>579491283
Kek I have fond memories of Chivalry and year 1 Mordhau
Too bad Stouty and his pack of ravenous subhuman brown niggers killed every single game with their gay matrixing and spinderella shit
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>>579491480
That's part of what made the big spear so beautiful. You just don't even engage that kind of niggery. Poke, backdodge, poke, backdodge. Oh he's committing? Turn and run, he can't catch you in his heavy armor. Be the vulture. Wait for him to engage one of your fodder teammates, and poke him in the head. If he gets a hit on you, no he didn't, just use your bandage. The steepest cost was requiring you to go naked on the head, but good camera movement let you protect your head quite well, and the most obnoxious matrix swings came from the maul anyway, which disintegrates your head regardless of armor.
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>>579491480
>Stouty
...Can you imagine how much of a lolcow he'd be if he played Darktide?
Imagine Tranner and the ratjeet combined.
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>>579479840
I think Forge Worlds and the Adeptus Mechanicus work a lot like a medieval monastary society:
there are the priesthood/monks that live in the monastary itself reading books, doing research, brewing ale etc
And outside the monastary is all the peasants that pay a tithe of resources to the monks enabling them to work.
The monks aren't like an aristocracy, because they're celibate, and thus the new generation of monks comes from recruiting non-monks (historically it wouldn't be peasants but upper class children, but that doesn't fit my metaphor)

So this all means that the majority population of any AdMech world is normie humans.
And tech priests and skitarii obviously have biological components that would need nutrients, so they eat.
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>>579491612
Stouty at least is still one of the best Chivalry\Mordhau players
Tranner can't even clear havok 40 consistently without 10 billion cheats
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>>579491809
I sincerely doubt Tranner could beat a single h40 without his three premade daddies carrying him every step of the way, no matter how many cheats he uses.
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>>579491787
>so they eat.
Almost everything that your vital organs do tends to involve exchanging chemicals into, or out of, the blood stream. That means you can cut most of them out and replace them with machines. On a technicality, I don't think hooking yourself up to a nutrient IV really counts as "eating", and neither does reducing your biomass to just your brain and a portion of your spine both swimming in nutrient fluid count as "eating".
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Every general has a bunch of namefags/tripfags/schizoposters, I don't see why the (apparent) continued existence of the ratjeet is worthy of so much GODDAMN ATTENTION. STOP REPLYING TO HIM.
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>>579493059
I find it funny that we've had something like 4-5 bans now across just 2 threads.
>ratjeet
>other guy trolling alongside ratjeet (or ratjeet on a different IP, difficult to say)
>guy egging on suicidefag to commit murder
>ratjeet the second
>suicidefag (fucking FINALLY)
>guy egging suicidefag on
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if not for that schizo talking to himself for hours at a time this general would be dead
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>>579493261
tell me more about this suicidefag
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>>579493331
See >>579477183 being egged on by >>579477394
He's been here for like a week or something occasionally posting about how he's worthless or something and now talking about khs and some other shit. Assuming it's the same guy, anyway, but there's no reason to believe otherwise, regardless of whether he's sincere, or trolling.
I personally choose to believe that at least some of those are bait to get someone to engage and then get them banned. This time suicidefag got caught in his own crossfire.
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>>579493059
Nigga he'd just reply to himself, like he did for 19 fucking hours straight.
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>>579493059
In another general I frequent, we had an unironic schizophrenic one day decide he was going to set up shop. He had a seasonal mania sort of thing going, and when he was active, he would spend 10-12 hours a day ban evading and spamming the thread with his pastas about how the jannies were pedophiles and it was his mission to expose them. It was a miserable experience

This continued for about 3 years until eventually he killed himself. Enough people knew his dox by that point and so were able to find his obituary. Kind of sad because it genuinely was a mental illness thing but at the same time I think everybody was kind of glad he died.
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>>579493630
you can't just drop lore like that and not tell us the general
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>>579493709
/vrg/
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Schizo this, schizo that.
TALK ABOUT GAMES RETARDS
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>>579493835
oh is vr chat still popular?
always wanted to play it but then i realized that most people that play it are erpers and trannoids
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>>579493848
oh okay I'll start
darktide...haha nope, I can't think of anything to say about darktide that isn't a complete and total pointless waste of time
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>>579493976
Tell me about Grendyl, why does he hide behind Rannick.
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>>579494027
because he's a brahms family ancestor and hooked up to the ship's battery directly using a fuck ton of power just to keep him alive, and he has some sort of secret aims beyond being useful to the inquisition
haha sorry, just kidding, the answer is IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER IT'S BEEN FOUR YEARS AND NOTHING ABOUT THE STORY HAS ADVANCED
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>>579493630
During old testament times, individuals like those would've been stoned to death, burned as witches, or otherwise forcibly removed from the society they were an active and harsh detriment to.
>but muh innocent false positives
Melanated Americans said that too until Saint Floyd gave us the blessing of bodycams.
Some people just aren't fit for society.
>>579493835
>VRG
The only thing I know about VR related stuff, is that it's saturated with Americans (sorry burgerbros) with severe speech impediments and that audibly autistic squeaky nasal intonation, on at least two different kinds of HRT, having daily meltdowns in furry servers where they also groom children. All of which sounds like a fever dream to a would-be outsider, but all of these are commonplace in shit like VRChat.
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>>579494160
Swedish malice truly knows no bounds
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>>579494163
>muh desert tales
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>>579494225
>desert tales
kek that's one I hadn't heard before
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>>579494225
>missing the point
Reddit atheists are the most retarded people on the planet
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>>579493564
you can't ignore someone for 19 hours? Sometimes it takes a few days. They all eventually stop if nobody talks to or about them.
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>>579494225
Better not be knocking One Thousand and One Nights, inshallah I will give you a taste of my sandal.
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>>579494378
Where the fuck do you think we are right now.
We are in a general where making the simplest outlandish claims results in a 40 posts reply chain.
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>>579494378
I have seen retarded shitposters go without attention for over 5 years and still sticking around
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>>579493905
Yeah. vrchat kind of faded out of mainstream consciousness after the normie streamers finished their fun with it, but in terms of actual player numbers it has steadily been increasing every single year.

The communities are innumerably varied. Whatever you are looking for, it probably exists, but finding it is its own challenge.

If you do want to try vr, a used quest 3 or 3s will run you about $200 on the used market. Fairly cheap by today's hardware standards and you can always pawn it off to someone else if you don't like it.
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I think las weapons should work off heat instead of ammo, make the battery pack explode like a krak grenade when it goes critical
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>>579489860
>heinous shit like dodging off ledges
but with dodgemaxxed hive scum I can get like 30 meters of air off the ledge at the end of archivum sycorax, how can you expect me not to do that

I do miss and fly down the shaft every couple of games though
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I think Hadron should suck me off, make my balls explode like a frag grenade when I go critical
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>>579490356
>moveteching is still a widespread issue
can you fuck off and die please? the game lets you have fun, so people have fun
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>>579495370
Ratjeet detected.
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>>579494472
and i saw shooting star once
exception vs the rule
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Is Kerillian considered attractive by Moebian's standard?
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>>579496221
>only once
I wish
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Kerillian blows rat assholes like Balloons
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>>579493059
>go to sleep
>wake up
>eat breakfast and then check /coopg/
>1/3 of the thread is deleted and banned, again
What the fuck?
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>>579497234
It's like the weather. Once in a while there's a storm. Don't worry about it.
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Spark 'ead, bring that head toilet over
I need to piss
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Completely dead general
Maybe we do need the ratjeet to keep things alive
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>>579422318
Three builds I've found to be pretty fun from top to bottom is
Cryo Minelayer, you take Mine rockets and additional rockets per salvo and a bunch of radius upgrades with increased RoF and cluster munitions and just kinda fuck entire hallways of xenos.

Combat Stims medic, Combat stims in general are pretty fucking gross and when you dedicate almost the entire grid to them your team becomes functionally unstoppable gods on a 16s cooldown

Particle Beam mage, you combine it with gunslinger and if you manage to frag about 4 xenos per cast you can recast it immediately again due to all the cooldown reduction and ability to cancel it early by rolling. Anything that dies to the fire dot it causes also gives the cooldown reduction even if the cast has finished. Cooldown can be pretty brutal but combat stims cutting it in half helps a lot if you cast it at a bad time and somehow manage to kill nothing.

Medics core perks are pretty fucking cracked with one being a 3 slot 45% cooldown reduction on both abilities (that isn't negatively affected by cooldown reduction stacking inefficiency) and the other being a 2 slot 10% cooldown 10% movement speed 20% reload/handling buff.
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Fatshark finally killed coopg off for good
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>>579502429
can't kill what was never alive to begin with.
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>>579428239
I use it as a sidearm for inferno staff. Drooling sword sucks at dealing with twins and captains.
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>>579468550
I also sometimes make this typo for the same reason
It's called muscle memory.
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>>579503164
brown
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>>579503164
Memorize this
*flexes my juicy muscles at you*
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content doko
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>>579503519
we got a HUGE ratclick update today
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>>579479840
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>>579494160
>because [headcanon]
nice try
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>>579492147
I’m inclined to agree but I do seem to recall a story where certain tech priests were found to keep stuff like their digestive systems, possibly out of some odd warped sense of ‘nostalgia’ or attachment, though they’re obviously probably outliers, I thought it was a neat reminder that they aren’t all uniform in how they see that stuff
>>579493323
Not really we’re still moving at a respectable pace even besides that garbage
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Poxclick news when?
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>>579507879
This month
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What's the melee weapon of choice for Ogryn if I want to go PBB Roombler?
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checking out kf3, it's not that bad honestly.
It's fun, but I'm not having a BLAST yet. Maybe it gets better when I git gud.
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>>579508018
power maul does it all
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>>579496289
there's that one actually attractive face type available to the AGP rejects so presumably no.
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>>579491787
>So this all means that the majority population of any AdMech world is normie humans.
some of the forge worlds perhaps but Mars is itself the center of what is basically a galaxy spanning empire. they can harvest pre-servitors and recruits from elsewhere.
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>>579496289
It’s possible
>>579497113
That guy was really one sick bastard
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>>579508073
KF3 player here, it isn't.
It has the basis to be really good.
I love how the atmosphere is back to KF1 levels, instead of the slop that was KF2.
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>>579508815
prison map especially is quite nice
Also i just tried Kf2 yesterday to compare, and kf3 feels a lot better to play.
obviously it will never be as good as kf1 but still
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>>579508960
KF1 was the gold standard, it's sad how much Tripwire jewed everyone out with KF2.
KF3 is also being jewed hard, considering it has a fucking battlepass system
But it's really fun to play, and I can't wait for the endless mode.
The only gripe I have with it is the damage system being obtuse overcomplicated bullshit made for demented retards
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>>579508285
>AGP
It's also the dummy female face to preview any (premium) cosmetics and also female face for Vet in character creation screen. Even Fatshark knows that it's the better or the most attractive face beside Chinese female face for female Zealot in all of their promotion before game launch.
It's somewhat funny to me that if the bot has that attractive face, then it always uses Professional voice who is black irl. But if the bot uses the ugliest nigress face, then it always the Loose Canon voice.
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>>579508073
It has gotten significantly better over the past year as they've continued to walk back all the dumb modern day live service elements they forced in. It still needs another year or two in the oven to call it good but it's tolerable now. Whoever was calling the shots must've been fired or transferred to a different title because they were fully prepared to die on the hero shooter live service hill despite an immense amount of feedback saying otherwise. I wonder if the other executives realized this when they launched the game and saw everyone go back to KF2 within 3 days of launch and realized "oh... yeah nobody actually wants any of this dogshit"
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>>579509402
WE WARFRAME NOW
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>>579509608
>used to eat shit
>nice this shit doesn't taste as bad as yesterday
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>>579509503
wait you didn't know the execs hated you? You think it's really beautiful to them?
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>>579509402
damage system really doesn't matter because it's based on the hitzone and not the zed. For example the scrakes face is weak to Force damage until his mask pops, then he stops being weak to force and starts being weak to Cut and Heat so the only actual buildout is that everyone uses Incendiary rounds for heat damage because everything it's weak against has such little health that it doesn't matter and it's good against all of the larger zeds. It does help with bosses to have a wide array of damage types built but ultimately that's only like the last 5 minutes of a round.
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>>579509841
Don't you mean POKEMON?
>Skully used Corrosive ammo type on Fleshpound
>It's Super Effective!
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>>579510209
Do you happen to know how Afflictions work?
Do they built up like bleed in Elden Ring and then activate? Does it have stacks like Darktide?
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>>579510209
That's kinda the point, 90% of those are worthless because thermite ammo (or pyro in general) is op as fuck
We don't need all of this fucking looter shooter bullshit, ffs
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>>579510363
Each enemy has an activation threshold for status afflictions, rule of thumb is 100 points of status (if mod says 70 bleed, that's 70/100 so two shots would trigger the bleeding) for small/mid zeds, 200 for large zeds, and 300 for bosses. when a status affliction is activated it persists until it runs dry, it cannot be reset or extended by applying it again until it runs out. Once it runs out, it requires a larger amount of status to reapply until a certain amount of time has passed without the zed being afflicted by that status again where it then resets to the base amount of status.

Excluding Freeze, Stun, and Shock, status afflictions in KF3 are worthless dogshit. Corrosive specifically from the Acid Grenade launcher is actually solid because you deal a large chunk of damage to the base health pool with the grenade and very respectable DPS from the corrosive affliction and corrosive puddle damage. Confusion is also really strong but the only practical way to apply it after the massive amounts of nerfs to it is the confusion grenade launcher mod but the most recent nerfs functionally killed it for anything other than an emergency panic weapon. You can see the top right of the attached image for details on them but as an example, bleed does 6 damage every 0.5s, so 12 damage per second for 10 seconds for a total of 120 damage. Burn does 40dps for 3 seconds, so it's also 120 damage. Basically it deals an additional 1-2 rifle bullets worth of damage to the main body HP if you wait out the entire duration of the status.
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can I have weapons with impact instead of all of this
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I enjoyed KF2.
There, I said it.
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>>579511570
Stumble is like Stagger in Darktide? The cooldown looks very short.
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>>579508018
>i want to do everything decently well
Bully Club
>i really really hate chaff (is that a lone crusher? aieee save me!!!)
Knife
>i'm a big fucking hipster
Shovel
>"CRUSHERS could be here" he thought, "I've never been on this map before. There could be CRUSHERS anywhere"
Pickaxe
>i want to staggermaxx and be generally untouchable by everything but hyperstacks of melee elites, idgaf about killing shit lol
Shield
>i like the bully club, but do you have it at 80% potency with a CD that lets me kill one target of my choice (and stagger everything in the area) every 8 seconds?
Power Maul
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>>579508018
In auric, you use the karsolas pickaxe. It handles trash well, and handles armor well enough with the special -> heavy -> light combo (it also stagger rapes them). Comes with the added advantage of potentially saying you a skill point if you take the toughness blessing. Not super optimized, but the easiest choice you can take, and more than sufficient.
>>579514304
Mostly correct, although I feel like shield is really anemic without melee investment, and you're underrating the paul a little. It's just hard to wrangle the combo into achieving good DPS, but I'm pretty sure it outperforms the bully club once you do.
The knife also feels really bad to use, but it is undeniably effective against lesser armored enemies. Not being able to do much against scab melee elites is pure suffering tho.
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>>579512489
Cooldown is short for reapplication but the amount of stumble you need to re-stumble grows notably higher each time until a certain amount of time has passed where it hasn't been stumbled. So the first stumble might take a single bullet, then the next stumble takes two bullets, then three, etc etc.
Something else that is important to know that is very different from prior titles is that it's no longer "Head health, body health" for zed health, it's now body part specific health and base health. What this means is that in KF2 It didn't matter if you shot a gorefast in the leg 5 times and then in the chest 5 times to kill it as they were the same health pool. In KF3 the zeds have a larger base health pool than they do for most limb/torso health pools. So a Zeds torso or leg might have 1.5k health but the base health is 1.8k so if your team split the fire between both legs you need to deal 1.8k damage instead of the 1.5k needed if you just focused one leg down.
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Why does ogryn's melee suffer so much when going into a gun build yet scum's pure gun build is leagues better in melee?
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>>579514868
ok that's nice to know
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>>579514304
Good summary.

>is that a lone crusher? aieee save me!!!

The knoife had a decent build and combo vs CRUSHERS before the health update, and it was fun to uppercut a CRUSHER and then facestab him a few times

But seeing as Fatshark hates fun the knoife was never buffed accordingly after the changes. Shame.
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What the fuck happened in here?
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>>579516558
Suicidefag baited again with murder this time, someone replied, both got nuked. Also ratfag ban evaded and got gaped within 15 minutes. That's like 3 bans in one thread.
There was also some fag that posted porn and either got insta-deleted or did it himself.
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Any sloptide news? It's September now.
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>>579516976
Another vacation.
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>>579515702
Supposedly for balance.
Unfortunately, all the guns on ogryn (not the explody ones) feel really meh.
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>>579515702
Because the ogryn is being kept at a state of being barely functional, and the melee talents push him into being okay.

Scum is baseline broken, and ON TOP of that he gets Rampage and Adrenaline.

Simple as.
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>>579517379
i'm still amazed they buffed rampage after it was already so strong
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>>579518078
Wasn't it the same patch they nerfed Pickpocket, thusly deleting the Desperado as a viable option?

Swiggers, everyone. I fucking miss desperadomaxxing with Graia Braced auto, shit was so cash
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>>579517112
They'll surely be well rested and ready for work when they get back to the office, right?
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>>579518394
Desperado is still good tho
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>>579518971
No the fuck it's not, and especially not compared to Rampage, friend

Playing as this weird hybrid melee/ranged until I run out/melee an elite with my non-melee build/get like 2 mags of ammo with occasional Desperado thrown in is super unsatisfying, and clunky. I fucking hate Desperado now

The ability itself is not dogshit-tier, I agree, but the entire context of how it works on scum now fucking sucks balls
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Use code BARDIN to get 50% off your first month of Thaggahunter.com
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The southlander shaker, gimme the southlander shaker dude shake your ass
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>that's a thuggaraki blackfur!
What did he mean by this?
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GODLESS DWARF
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>>579520474
Barid watched Tariq Nasqueeks documentary, "Buck(tooth) Breaking" and now realized most rat "males" are a bit more zesty than they let on...
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do i bother with this?
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>>579523073
guess not
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>>579519305
It's still great on H40 because you kill specials and elites in melee all the time even on your desperado build, so it's just functionally free ammo still
On auric the nerf was significant because you could go true full ranged and now you can't anymore

either way saying it sucks really just means you suck, it's still one of the best builds in the game
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>>579521286
in a godless world
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Thoughts on Far Far West? I jumped into it, unsure about the game, and found it fun.
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>>579520057
Chat is this real
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>>579524340
if it's not fun, why bother?
glad you're having fun though
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>>579523982
oh fuck off you fucking nigger, I'm done with this shit, the ability fucking sucks stop trolling
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>>579494163
In old testament times a guy like that might actually be considered a prophet.
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>>579523982
>It's still great on H40
NTA but have you actually used Rampage? Really, really used Rampage? With center keystone and a 100% viscosity stimm? You press a button and decide that that boss over there is no longer there, and his buddy is also gone. Literally anything that scum can do, is pathetic dogshit compared to what happens when you fully invest in Rampage. That's not to say Desperado is bad, it's fine, the Pickpocket nerfs pulled it back quite a lot but it's still perfectly usable. But compared to Rampage? The opportunity cost is fucking ridiculous.
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>>579516558
>>579516775
I was away for a day or too. Did it really happen again? or are we talking about the first attempt?
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>>579524724
Suicidefag didn't get banned the first time, only the retards egging him on to commit murder. This time he mentioned suicide/murder ideation and got banned, alongside the retard that took the bait.
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>>579524340
Was fun for me. Is what Darktide expeditions should have been. Haven't checked out the new update yet, but that's on my to do list after having my fill of Lantern of the Laughless Saint.
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>>579524479
>if it's not fun, why bother?
I take it you're not a fan?
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>>579515702.
Ogryn's melee weapons just suck ass mostly, both in terms of damage but also stagger surprisingly. You can feel it when you get into havoc 40.
But the only way to make up for that deficit is to take all the melee nodes for ogryn. And regardless of you taking those you will only do like 1 million damage at best, and even then half your damage comes from bleed.

But how PBB builds work, it basically sacrifices all the melee shit so you can be actually cancerously OP with the rumbler by using PBB that clears entire hordes of armor in 2 seconds.
Like rumbler PBB ogryn can easily rack up like 3-4 million damage in a single mission. You can quite literally OUT DAMAGE a flame staff psyker using shriek. Which makes them incredibly salty.

Scum isn't effected by going for ranged build because by fact most of his melee weapons, especially the shivs, don't suck ass. And scum's ranged builds doesn't really need anything in it besides just the Desperado ability and pickpocket. And you're free to allocate rest of the points elsewhere.
Unlike ogryn's ranged build which requires you to max out reload speed, explosion radius and damage by taking Pace Maker, Keep Shooting, Reloaded and Ready, Big Boom and Fire Away. While also having to sacrifice 2 more points to get Light 'Em Up because PBB does nothing without it. And ogryn even now surprisingly has quite a lot of tax nodes arguably.
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Imagine if there was a good coop game
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>>579524569
By a handful of crazy people maybe
>>579521475
>>579520057
>>579520474
Holy kek
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>>579525358
>rumbler PBB ogryn can easily rack up like 3-4 million damage in a single mission
This is disingenuous, you'd need to have 3 actual dead weight retards to get numbers that big AND take at least 10-15 minutes longer than you're supposed to. The expected output is closer to 2~2.5 million in a 30-ish minute mission, and even that is slightly on the higher side. The actually excellent ogryns I play with generally sit around close to 2 million in a short-ish mission.
If you take long enough to reach damage numbers that high, it is actually a sign that the mission is going poorly, not that the ogryn is doing well.
>Scum isn't effected by going for ranged build
This is also a lie because the difference in melee damage output is bright African summer day at 12:00 with the sun at its zenith, and bottom of Marianas trench night at witching hour, between a fully melee maxxed build, and some random ranged build that just takes 2-3 melee nodes. It is really, really, REALLY extreme in the most glaring way, at least in havoc.

I feel like I must add that, in auric, I think ranged builds outperform melee builds because scum is so squishy and you always run the risk of some double nigger blowing up a burster or a barrel in your face, with the added annoyance of your retards never shooting the shooters, so Desperado is incredible. It also helps you do hacking objectives and get revives off while under gunner fire, which will be important since most teammates are just really bad.
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>play the game as a skitranny
>a zealotroon randomly spergs out about muh new class
>pisses and shits himself when I don't do the puzzles immediately
>might be an unironic tranny with the weird high-pitched nasally voice
>zealotroon starts to do things that were detrimental to the team
Mental illness
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>>579524874
Man, Why do this in a cozy warhammer-esque thread?
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>>579526440
He got a gray number on a scoreboard once.
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>>579512115
It wasn’t *terrible*, I think the general sentiment is that it was a step down from the first is all.‘definitely possible to squeeze some fun out of, I also have a soft spot for it.
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>>579526664
The raw gameplay is really fun and the higher quality gun animations (until they got rid of their original animator) really helped with that. I just wish the visuals weren't so messed up. Everything is too glossy.
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>>579526440
They are in a few /vg/ threads and say basically the same thing everyday 'I'm so fucking stupid and can't do anything right' or something similar to get some you(s) but they have been getting more desperate lately for the attention.
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>>579527520
It's low quality shitposting and trolling at best, and literally against the law where this site is hosted, at worst. Jannies may care about the former, and are forced to act on the latter. Do with this information as any good user that cares about the quality of the board would, because it evidently works.
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>>579512115
I liked KF2 just fine. Its gameplay was good. But it was extremely disappointing in terms of atmosphere, voice lines, and aesthetics.
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>>579528495
Oh I report and hide their posts and move on, usually the problem sorts itself out eventually. But I certainly notice them, hard not to. We are in a very good spot for actual co-op games rn so it's hard to justify any shit like that, really is something for everyone's niche these days with some level of playerbase.
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anyone up for a few rounds of Vermintide 2?
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>>579529783
Probably a good idea to ask again when we aren't in a dying thread currently on page 10.
I don't play VT but I support anons playing together
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>>579528495
I noticed the opposite of this these days.
They seem especially lax on this board except for the most egregious offenses like our resident tard(s), which is why I was so surprised they’ve been so consistent in slapping him down, and after catching a ban for "'””misreporting'''" on another board (at least give a warning or something) I'm kind of paranoid about using the 'breaking the law' function, I'm glad it's worked out for others though
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Well /coopg/, it's been an honor. So sad to see you go.
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>>579524702
>Opportunity cost
using that logic every loadout but flame staff on psyker is shit. Sorry no they're all OP
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>>579533397
Retard
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>>579533397
>every loadout but flame staff on psyker is shit.
DAS RITE!
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>Patch notes
>We removed flame staff from the game lol
>Fixed cosmetics clipping
Your response?
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>>579534989
>Your response?
Play havoc without psyker until the psyssies adapt to using ground pound lol, it's not really a big deal to play without one
I never use the flame staff myself anymore either, because it's so mind numbingly boring.
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>>579533397
Aww, you're so cute, almost forming an independent thought and coming to your own conclusions!

Yes that's why the flame staff is OP you stupid nigger, no they're NOT all OP
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I'm impressed by some of the stagger animations in darktide. Sometimes a rager (the one with the two axes) just sprints past me and I shoot my grenadier gauntlet next to him.
If the blast isn't strong enough, he doesn't do a standard stagger animation, that kills his momentum. They just kinda stumble realistically, trying to stop themselves from falling, while they keep moving, recovering back into a full sprint.
Seems sophisticated but maybe I'm wrong and it's an easy thing to do.
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>>579527520
>>579528495
Call me a moral fag or whatever, but I think the biggest shitty thing is this guy going "oh no I'm gonna do it for realsies" takes away from ACTUAL people that's either dealt with or currently dealing with suicidal issues/mental issues in general; people who ACTUALLY need help and want it.

So it irks me as someone who gives a shit about mental health (I have autism, and had depression since I lost my job pre-covid).
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>>579535941
Modern GTA games use a sophisticated ragdoll/animation system. The most recent and most impressive example is Bodycam who recently did a demo of that new system being implemented.
Darktide has VERY good animations, but I don't think the system they use is anything fancy. I don't think living enemies ever actually ragdoll until they die, and animations aren't as dynamic as they look, they're just really well animated.
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>>579373612
More than that though
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>>579538291
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>>579529783
I'm up for it do you have a code I can use to join?
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>>579430469
I mean sure but that number is also increasingly overrepresented depending on the demographic you’re looking at
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>>579538792
just add me on steam and see if I'm ingame or not

my friend code 38422383



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