>Anti-threadshitter filter listhttps://clipb.in/hga6AdY>Latest Nightreign patch noteshttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-nightreign-patch-notes-version-1032>Small guide for players who are coming back to the game and want to queue DoN, suggestions welcomehttps://rentry.org/d5guide>How to host 6 player lobbies with seamless coophttps://files.catbox.moe/we1zur.png>Nightreign MoreMapVariation+SoTEWeapon mod guidehttps://rentry.co/ergMMVW>Nightreign Boss Arena Modhttps://www.nexusmods.com/eldenringnightreign/mods/449?tab=description>Nightreign Artorias Boss Guidehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr6qcjP4Fds&t=276s >Nightlord resistances charthttps://files.catbox.moe/rd2k5n.jpg >The main information document for Elden Ringhttps://rentry.org/erpasta>Character Plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>Miscellaneous Nightreign Datahttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1meXOw4jR1hh7YXVMeijWwSDIXnCw6Tk4hTZPq2qvyK4>Group/Multiplayer PasswordergTouch bloodstain: >>579273309
>>579343827awooga
Gonna use this one because it was made first
>>579343827Gonna use this general because my butt looks like that
>>579343827recluse would never wear a thong like that
>>579344510>>579344404>>579344293>>579344068she would wear leopard print
>>579344474
Previously on /erg/ball-Z >An anonymous user playing with a shield and straight sword dared to suggest they were having a rough time in PvP. Instead of anything resembling functional advice, the community immediately formed a circle to tell them to learn how to parry, powerstance, or just throw their weapon in the trash because “straight swords are rough” unless you are a master of the universe.>A truly spectacular display of basic cognitive failure occurred when someone asked how a brand-new player was supposed to intuitively know that White Mask Varré wasn’t a hostile enemy. This sparked a flurry of responses aggressively explaining the revolutionary concepts of “not locking on,” “standing still,” and “having spoken dialogue” to someone who apparently plays video games with their prefrontal cortex completely detached.>The thread completely derailed into a toxic, paranoid puddle after a few users allegedly uncovered the real name, Twitter account, and general geographic location of a regular poster (“druggie”). The subsequent responses alternated between creepy basement-dwellers plotting minor real-world “jokes” and standard internet tough guys posturing about who has the worse real-life identity crisis.>A group of fragile PvE wizards collectively wept over adjustments made to the Gravitational Missile spell, prompting a multi-reply argument about whether the spell was genuinely broken or if its effectiveness simply relied on their opponents being entirely brain-dead.
So in the end, who exactly won and who lost?
>>579344653>HURRR CHAT JEEPEETEEEE MAKE A FUNNY POST FOR MEfuck off with this incessent spam
>>579344727terr
>>579344727>Wontrish, devil, terr, cupcake, vitty, druggie, husbandposter>Lostboth threads
>>579344884sad trvke...
>>579344884we are mere playthings to the thread shitters...it's over
>>579344404Name?
boc
boc the seamsterr
Burning Boc's fingertips with an iron so she loses feeling and can't sew properly anymore. Using my tooth whip on her every time she makes a mistake while mending my garments.
she? her?
What's with the boc posting and erping lately?
>>579345745just invader things
>>579345745shut up
>>579345853>imageI think I just vomited in my mouth.
do you guys use mods
>>579345853>>579345954>>579345974Which thread do I use
>>579345587Can demi humans produce offspring with humans in elden ring?
>>579346051This one >>579343869That's the real thread
>>579343827My face will be her throne
>>579345745Keep talking>>579346051This one since it was made first and recluse is hotter
>>579345853Nuke the Latinx world.>>579345745Some people go mad from living in the modern world and this is the result.
>>579346051The other one with the non-vandalized OP
competing ops is erg cultcha
>>579344727Won:erglost:terrcuck and dsgroids
>>579344404if you need a seat my face is available
REAL THREAD >>579343869REAL THREAD >>579343869REAL THREAD >>579343869
Viteazu admitted feelings for Trish and now they are a couple Another enemies to lovers couple from erg
The other thread and Undertaker won btw
>>579346120if snakes can do it i dont see why demi humans couldnt
Hurry up and decide Janny
>>579346623Notice how the Creasy obsessed argumentative shithead, is in that thread. Really makes you think...
>>579346583https://vocaroo.com/13l1qCSExwTf
>>579346623>>579346697Wow you're really obnoxious, I think I'll just stay in this thread instead
>>579346916heavy...
>>579346863He's like, "Hey, everyone turn off your filters, and watch me get into a 12 hour argument with Creasy."
>>579346583this this this everyone is saying this
>>579344510She doesn't use underwear
>>579347858Shut up.
>>579347858Speak more
should I play eldie ring or nightreign
>>579347858lewd...
tormenting boc by becoming a nudist
>>579349486a type B posted this
So, which thread do you think the j**nny will wipe out? it's the other one, isn't it?
>>579348834play the naitoreineru with eee aarr gee dayo
>>579349716janny is probably ERPing right now that thread might get 'chived
>>579348939It's not lewd she's a swamp witch and her pussy is full of infections. It drips yeasty yogurt constantly and if she wears underwear it turns into a rancid slop within 10 minutes.
this game's online only works if the people participating play a certain way>hosts and summoned phantoms need to not be useless but also can't be too capable by themselves>invaders need to have the tools to deal with 3 different people at once but also shouldn't be so geared up that a lone vagabond with only a longsword wouldn't stand a chanceif anyone does anything to break these then it becomes a clusterfuckif the host and summoned phantoms are geared up the way an invader is they'd be too difficult to deal with by yourself, justifying the invaders doing all the cheese strats just so they stand a chanceif an invader is doing all the cheese strats like using vyke's and abusing bleed/frostbite then they'd be too difficult to deal with 3 characters progressing through normally, justifying the host and summons gearing themselves up like invaders doby far and large the most fun i've had in this game was low-ish level invading at stormveil, where most players had barely swapped gear from their starter loadout and you actually had leeway to do some sneaky stuffvery rarely did i ever have to dodge through 3 people spamming oneshots at me
>>579346583>>579347858>>579350074This is true
>>579343827sniff sniff
>>579350409nobody asked
>>579350412Why?
>>579350409everybody asked
>>579350409All true. Rare Redcel truth bomb
*asks*
>druggie anon uses his full legal name on twitter while being a 4chan userSo he's actually retarded right
>>579351141>druggie anona guy with a nickname like that is retarded? no way...
>>579351141Examples of his posts?
>>579352053all he does is talk about what a fat fuck he is and how much weed he smokes and about how everyone besides him is stupid and a tranny and he larps that he has a wife
Anyone queued
>>579352887Do you look like that?
there is no type B
>>579353439I don't believe you
>>579352421I haven't noticed any of those
>>579352887FC time?
We're all type Bs
>>579353497https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/553244001/#553260523
Consider yourself cut in half
>>579354164what's with the quality?
>>579352887busy now
>>579354531you're beautiful
>>579354531Hallo maam good moning
>>579353979You're all my type Bs
>>579354584>>579354879>>579355075mush...
Why are there 2 threads?
Mettlemesh do you still post here?
>>579355189*m*shpakijeet
>>579355226One for eating with, one for wiping
>>579355075We know Devil
>>579354531Please be my gf I love you
>>579355227yeah
>>579356321How's it going bro? Weren't you working on a videogame?
>>579355625um no?
anyone queuing?
i dont play with sexy sissies
>>579354531ewww bruh
>>579349716Considering jannys are trannys, they'll delete this thread.
>>5793585371/3
>>579359386ok
>>579350409Instead hosts and summons are getting 2 shot by the twink invader. Alternatively its an appropriately geared invader for that area and they get shitslapped. Generally.Higher level invasions take more skill on behalf of the invader.
>>579359664I did a lot of twink invading before the dlc came out but after the dlc, I've only invaded at level 117+
>>579359860I really wish losing an invasion didn't cause you to respawn and lose your souls. I don't understand at all the logic behind that. For me it makes doing invasions casually as I quest through the game unattractive. As I imagine it would for most. So instead of more organic invaders who are just playing through the game we get a bunch or twinks who are only interested in that level range. Driven purely by incentives.Because of this I typically don't bother with pvp until 150. Though I'm more of a duelist anyway.
>>579360392in the souls games, you dropped your souls at the area in your world you invaded from, in elden ring you drop souls in the area in the hosts world you died in, idk why they changed it
Gaminghttps://files.catbox.moe/9htxsl.mp4
>>579360392>>579360562Reds should be penalized for attempting to rape other players. Why do you think you can play the predator with no consequences?
>>579362530Why are you saying it so erotically
the redbvll eats shoots and leaves
>>579362530Okay, but as explained all you do is incentivize twinks.
you can get a rune arc or ten finger remedies for about the price of a gumball or two
>>579366062The original concept all the way back into demons souls, is that you already lost your humanity(or "body", as it was called) and you perhaps already lost your souls too. So with little to nothing to lose, you decide to invade another player to earn your body and souls back.Invasions weren't meant to be so casual as you just periodically fucking up another player along your journey.
>>579366460Demons Souls didn't even have flasks, brother. Losing one's humanity meant not having full health. Here the rune arc is optional and the multi-player item is cheap/craftable
>>579367027>Demons Souls didn't even have flasks, brotherSo...?>Losing one's humanity meant not having full health.Yeah, so removing one of the incentives to invade, is what makes casual invasions less likely. They should implement some kind of incentive. Even if it's not necessarily losing half your HP.
>>579367480I'm saying they aren't the same game. The incentive for most invaders is and always has been the pvp in and of itself. If someone is in a pinch and desperately needs a rune arc the path of least resistance is going coop to down a boss. Its purely the disincentive that reduces casual invasions.
>>579367480I think Dark Souls 2 actually had a decent system where it slowly removed small bits of your max health the more you died without reverse hollowing.Rune Arcs are so boring and forgettable, they're no incentive at all. I never remember to use them even when I have tons of them.
>>579369307I kinda like the system in ER. I rarely use them either, but its nice that its an option while the item to coop is cheap.
>>579369216>The incentive for most invaders is and always has been the pvp in and of itself.That is part of it. However, people choose different paths in life. Co-op is not a path that appeals to everyone, even if it means they have less to lose. Co-op typically takes more time, and it holds no guarantees, as the host can easily die, making you lose out on your rewards. Why spend potentially an hour clearing a whole level only for the host to die, when you can invade and assassinate a host in the faction of the time.It's similar in how people choose to resort to theft rather than dealing with the effort of working an honest job, getting paid bi-weekly.If you push the player into a situation where they begin to feel desperate, then a lot of them will choose to invade to recover their losses. So I say that thinking of a way to push players into that desperation is a better solution than removing penalties for loss. Not only will the game end up with more casual invasion, it will see more invasions from people who normally wouldn't invade otherwise.
>>579370187The problem with your logic is most summons occur at the boss door. The second is for a person to view invasion as a viable means of getting a rune arc over downing a boss is going to mean they likely possess a higher degree of skill, which means they're far less likely to be in such a desperate situation. All things being equal, time spent on average is about the same. There are plenty of turtling invasions or shit spawns that cause an invasion to drag on much longer. Worse still is the host can simply cross the boss fog, which happens often when doing invasions. You could also just die of course.The risk/reward ratio heavily favors coop over invasion for casual players.
>>579343740i dont care about random threadschizos
>>579370896>The problem with your logic is most summons occur at the boss door.Only in the new games, because they put bonfires next to boss doors. In the old games, running all the way to the boss door in order to put a sign down was a hassle, so most signs were near the beginning of the level.Also, in Demon's Souls, once you beat the boss, you weren't allowed to do co-op there anymore. So you couldn't return to an easier boss.For Elden Ring, the existence of summoning pools makes your summon sign see very little use. As most players looking for help will summon you near the pool, not walk all the way to the boss door before summoning someone.>All things being equal, time spent on average is about the sameIt's actually impossible for an invader to play for an equal amount of time as the host. You arrive later, and either leave when he dies, or leave early when you die, while the host continues on. Summoned players are more in line with the host. Because it's more likely that the host will summon before the invader comes, and the summon is likely to stay to the end, unless some enemies kill him sooner. Either an invader will kill the summon, or they'll win and continue on with the host.>Worse still is the host can simply cross the boss fogWhen that happens, you as an invader get sent back, but the summoned player still has to fight the boss, and pray the host doesn't get killed.But we're getting mired in the technicalities of it all. The fact remains that there is a large section of people who *perceive* invading as faster and more fun than co-op. They just need a bit of a push to do it. So the game needs to work in smarter penalties to make players desperate.I think there is some irony here, that you're (effectively) arguing that people become desperate enough to twink when met with a slight inconvenience like losing their runes after a failed invasion. But they're also too skilled at the game to be pushed into invading in the first place.
>>579372673Plenty of invasions drag on. Plenty of coop don't. And vice versa.All I know is I'm not casually invading like I'm casually cooping specifically because losing progress while leveling. Host or I die and I'm back where I left off. If I die invading my runes are dropped and I've lost my current progress. It only makes sense to invade when losing progress has a negligible effect.I don't think desperate players will twink a character. I think desperate players generally want to avoid pvp. Players twink out a character specifically to invade a level range with end game gear. If they have end game gear and are invading early areas against undergeared opponents they're the opposite of desperate.
sluts
Elden Ring being a babby game is part of the appeal.
bump
Damn the undie thread really beat yo ass huh
>>579361714Fuck you
>>579394669>Fuck you>69
I was under the impression these cunts only take one pot to go down. What the fuck is this.
>>579400353retard
>>579400353Kys
>>579384475I'll beat your dick if you keep talking shit, faggot
>>579402258;)
>>579371735Why not?
Bumping to floss on janny.
im still waiting, tyler
Floss these nuts you gay bitch
you lost like 15 hairs typing that
Yeah the hairs you vacuum sucked right off my wrinkly sack, you dirty bitch
>>579358467Whore
>>579374470>Plenty of invasions drag on. Plenty of coop don't.And yet, on average, the time investment for co-op is still far larger than the time investment for invasions. For the aforementioned reasons.>All I know is I'm not casually invading like I'm casually cooping specifically because losing progress while leveling.Good. That means fewer encounters that hosts have to deal with.>If I die invading my runes are dropped and I've lost my current progress.Same rules apply to the host. Why should the host stand to lose more than the invader. The invader should lose equal or more than the host. In fact, if the invader loses, he should have to sacrifice a precious resource from his inventory. Not something permanently lost. But something valuable. Make the invader gamble his resources to invade.>It only makes sense to invade when losing progress has a negligible effect.If invaders were more desperate like I suggested, then they would take the risk of invading with suboptimal gear or experience.>I don't think desperate players will twink a character.But you said yourself that you twink because the inconvenience of losing your progress and souls is too high to invade casually. The core fear you have that drives you to twink, is similar to the core fear that drives people to invade suboptimally. The game designers just need to find something that the invader is afraid of more than losing their souls, so they will be willing to risk the loss for the gain.
Reminder that this thread lost, shitcluse lost. The other thread won. Undertaker won
Do you girls still use "the grand archive" for erg or is there a new one updated for the new dlc? TGA hasn't been updated in 2 months according to the github
How did Radahn stop the stars when “the stars have aligned”?Is Miyazaki retarded or just poetic? By an alignment of stars are we to assume it’s a bunch of Astels waiting to see if Radahn finally dies or not? WHY do Astels control the fate of the Carian royal family? In the original idea for the fight, Astel would have landed the moment Radahn died. Oh, and stars apparently range from itty bitty motes or specks of magic dust to an enormous fucking comet that puts a hole in the ground. SPACE IS SEEN UNDERGROUND. So how big is space really? Not very? Is it all just a bigger fucking cave up above?
>>579433101Idk I use hexinton's
IT’S RAINING GRAVEN MASSES
>>579343827Nox...
>>579433120sir this is a chili's
>>579433120Is the sun a star in this universe?
>>579433179The comments say that one's broken for tarnished edition ugh
>>579433572Well just wait until it gets updated man You have to learn how to be patient if you want to make it in life
>>579433734I want to make builds NOW ugh its took me 6 hours to get to castle morne playing legit is too freaking long
>>579434020I'm not really doing gaols anymore desu, haven't really played much rev recently either
>>579433946Patience is a virtue my friendRome wasn't built in a dayAn ounce of patience is worth a pound of brains
>>579343827UHOOOOO RECLUSE EROTIC !
So Ironeye is the best character for a new player who needs to be carried? Bow Ironeye specifically or does weapon not matter?
>>579434607SELLEN FOOTJOB!!!!!! I WANT SELLEN FOOTJOB NOW!!!!!!!!!!
>>579434892You dont want to get up close to enemies and risk getting hit, so a bow is fine
Even though the bow does more damage up close and you want to be close for R2s. Shit, players should give their advice.
>>579435782ergies will look at this and refuse to equip their machetes
>>579435782This is us
>>579436156>equip my machete evandoe its only +0
>>579435782Kill all yuritroons
>>579436471i parry you
>>579436745You're joining the 41% before you'll do much of anything faggot tranny
>>579437121>>579436471curbstomped that maggot nice work
>>579434768shiftyqueen...
Faggots like >>579430670 hate art I condemn them all to hell
Did troon yui kill himself or something? At this point we might have to switch to vanilla if we want to do a DLC coop run.
someone start an fc
>>579437121>>579437338>>579437776nyoo
Rennala x MarikaRadagon x Godfrey
>>579437905>Art is when I get to play a long drawn-out, taxing, multi boss fight. Think of the looooore! Think of the cinemaaaaa! It's kinooooo!
>>579438317all things in modder-nation
>>579437929i think xhe unironically did, xhes also not online on any souls modding 'cordRIP
>>579438386wht a giant loser
>>579438386DEVILJEETXISTERS.....NOT LIKE THIS....
Seriously though. Imagine how hot a primeval sorcerer Rennala would be. How firm and diamond hard her tits…Why didn’t Miyazaki do this? Didn’t he want us to think that she was the single most amazing wizard in the world?
>>579438386yikes! not a good look---rep---izzat
>>579437929>>579438704xhe misgendered me so I had to kill xher sorry
Glintstone fleshlights wouldn’t be a very smart invention me thinks
>>579439069well that other guy told me she would turn into a jawbreaker
Just had a nightmare libra run with randoms, i'll be queuing back on erg for while
>>579438386@salvare@belanDon't swing out of stun like a retard next time
>>579439492Tell me when you're in queue so I know when to leave
How good can I make my relics in CE before people start catching on that they're actually cheated?
>>579439820Buh buh based
>>579439892ask dalit k***ht
Is anyone on the queue tonight or is it dead?
>>579440051yes
>>579439492tell me when youre gonna queue to q with you cutie
>>579439892ask the deviljeet
>>579440097Why does it still say 1/3 then?
>>579439892Ask the DevilKING
I can feel it coming in the queue tonight, oh lord
>>579440202just one of the mysteries of the universe i guess
>>579440174>>579440252don't talk to/about yourself weirdo
>>579440624Not your rapist/king etc
cant wait to yurm the bluddies
>>579439415that would be both funny and kino meaning it can’t be the case>>579436471>>579438317true
>>579439517that's like asking a dog not to lick his balls, I'm still gonna do itbtw I went back to my RL1 region-locked save for the tarnished pack, having fun with the new great katana
>>579441239Didn't ask
>>579441239stream it
I've been playing a lot of Mortal Shell 2 lately, but have been feeling an urge to return to ER. Is hacking still rampant on PC?
>>579441671Xhe should we could do with a good laugh
>>579441671why, no one would want to watch me job repeatedly to the black blade kindred at caelid because I can't cheese him with status
>>579440741>kingmade it too obvious again cocksucker kys
>>579442154...said no one ever
>>579442154Watching someone beat their head against a difficult boss can be kind of cathartic, teebeehaytch.
>>579439892I would say 6/9 lines on DoN relics, without doing the obvious shit like Phys+4/MaxHP x3 and demerits that are way too convenient for your class.
going int/mage is the worst experience I've had in a souls game, EVER. this is trash. it deals no damage outside of endgame meme spells with 80 INT and 20 Vigor. absolute fucking garbage to play everywhere else. fucking wasted 20 hours on this shitHURR DURR USE PEBBLE FOR 50 HOURS WHILE PROGRESSING YOUR BUILD IT'S RLY FUN ENJOYABLE AND STRONG!!!!
>>579442950You have to be genuinely retarded if you struggled with an INT build at any point.
>>579442950>carian slicer>adula moonblade>rock sling>etcInt build is so busted they kept nerfing it and it still clears easily.
>>579442950Why are you pretending to be retarded
>>579442950back in my day, Ice Spear and Moonveil were the strongest sorceries
I wish it was just the black blade kindred tho, caelid is being a nightmare so far for a RL1 character even with forged weaponsenemies just have a ton more health and that means more chances for me to fumble a dodge and get demolishedI also couldn't beat the godskin apostle at the divine tower, hell even the farum azula beastmen duo at dragonbarrow took me like 7 tries
>>579442950Maybe you should have invested in some int irl
>>579442950Wat u mean?Great glintstone shard does Hella damage for an early spell, also gravity staff is there.
JUST UNLOCK THE ENTIRE MAP, BEAT 3-4 BOSSES AND COLLECT SPELLS AND TALISMANS, SO YOU CAN BE AS STRONG AS A STRENGTH FAGGOT IS IN 5 HOURS AFTER STARTING THE GAMEwoaw!!! INT sounds really cool I'm gonna make one right now!!! thx guyzz
>>579442950noob kek
>>579443390>shitter meltdownkino
>>579442154>because I can't cheese him with status You just need the right statusI even used this shit to get me the lamenter mask on my level 6 +3 twink
>>579442881>MaxHP x3/erg/'s best players do that, though...
>>579443281Apostle is super easy with iron ball / star fist.BBK is hard mostly because of the shit environment.Also, I suppose you already have ritual shield right? If not, you should prioritize getting that talisman, it's the second most important one for rl1.
>>579443643it's a region-locked run, so far I can only use stuff found at limgrave, liurnia or caelidand I can't advance to altus plateau until I 100% clear caelid
>>579443794MaxHP AND Phys+4 x3.And no, deviljeet does not count :)
erg seamless coop NG+ DLC runPassword: ergLevel 90 with a +17-18 regular weapon /+7 somber weaponScadu level 20 and spirit ash level 10 is recommendedDressing up for the general area is highly encouraged (for example: a Messmer soldier cosplay for the shadow keep, a Curseblade cosplay for Belurat, or a Omen Killer cosplay for Shadow Altus)We will try to kill every boss and play through every dungeonTaunter's tongue will be permanently active so you have a chance to gank or get gankedThe run will be streamed on Twitch so you can see all the highs and lows (especially the lows)Starting on the first weekend of whenever seamless coop gets updated, at 4PM UTC, with each session lasting 3-4 hours until we beat every boss or we give up>Do I need to be in NG+ to join?No.>I don't have a character ready, what can I do about that?You can use mods or install a working Cheat Engine table and give yourself all that items that you need within a short time span and to quickly kill the bosses required for the DLC. If you don't have Cheat Engine installed just follow a guide and make sure to read everything during the installation process.>Why level 90, I want to play on my level 200 character!It's to maintain some semblance of game balance. There's nothing I can do to stop your from bringing in whatever overleveled character you want, but I'd rather we don't melt every boss in 30 seconds.>What if I'm TheBlocked™?I cleaned up my block list for the occasion. I can't control whom other people block.
>>579443895>region lockedwell time to gid gud
>>579443895Are you not considering dragonbarrow separate from caelid?
gg regular bugs standard hollows run
>>579444007>CosplayI will cosplay as Heihachi with Dryleaf
>>579444365gg.
>>579444007>spirit ash enablednot joining
>>579444365terr aka master of the erg
>>579444315yeah, my autism compels me to clear it even knowing the recommended RL is higher than the rest of caelid
>>579444457I don't know how to disable ashes in seamless and even if I knew/could they boost Torrent's damage resistances so you don't get instaraped by a omen peasant throwing a pebble at you.
>>579444007Can you do the DLC with CreamAPI or no
>>579444690Weird third-person brown post
the bigkat crits didn't have to look dumb
>>579444760Spirit summons are disabled.>>579444832I don't know what that is but I will look into it.
>>579444007is seamless even updated
fatrun?
>>579445237somewhere this week it will get updated, troon yui was busy the last week
>>579444007>It's to maintain some semblance of game balanceNG DLC is post-Moghgwyn Palace and post-base game, which is balanced around 125+ easily let alone NG+ 90, retard. If you insist on doubling down on this challenge mode-tier shit, I will bring a character at the upper end of this bracket just to fuck with you.
official /erg/ ships list (NEW SHIPS ADDED 31TH AUGUST 2026)trish x viteazumush x elfdevil x cupcakecc x shiftyterr x empty bowelssludge x footballdust x isaacmadison x nezukzorban x foodcreasy x walls of text
>>579445830you can reach mohg palace right after liurnia lake which is RL40-60 if you also did caelid for radahn
>troons bad evandoe dey got dat gock
>>579442349Didn't mean to post your trigger word
>>579444832>It lets you unlock DLCs without paying for themNeat. I'll use it if it means that more people can connect, unless everyone needs to have it, because I can't ask people to do that.>>579445830We've all extensively played through D5, Anon. SL90 is balanced for the average player here.>I will bring a character at the upper end of this bracket just to fuck with you.I can't stop you from doing that.
>>579393139kek>>579394194that’s pretty grim dude
>>579444994I need to summon the bird or else. Last warning
>>579446153Caelid is also intended to be an endgame area that just so happens to be connected to Limgrave
Made a scabbard for the Hefty Scimitar, is it cool?
>>579446535>back scabbard for giant sword that will clip into everythingNo it is not cool.
>>579446535(idk why the image came out rotated sorry)
>>579446153Oh you don't know what area scaling is, noted. >>579446454He's a retard that probably thinks Caelid and the Dragonbarrow section of Caelid are the same scaling.>>579446258>le fake-nice diplomatNot fooling anyone. Also, D5 is not SoTE. The little SoTE content we got in NR and the average shitters here still struggle/need to be carried for it to this day if they don't meet a DPS check.
>>579446235>digs the hole deeperas expected from the resident threadmaggot
>>579442154go live and the ergies will come
>5 dollar dlc trivializes boss fights
>>579446773>im bad therefor everyone else is bad tooNot how this works buddy
>>579447053Leonine Misbegotten was never exactly a tough fight.
>>579435782Average D5 0bar GODS
>>579446535It is cool, shame about the clipping thing.
>>579442950Based, ognbal retards with their spell blade shit are gonna rage at you but you are correct my king
>>579446773If it ends up being CBT tier I'll consider raising the level cap. I am confident we can go through the DLC without struggling much at 90.
>>579447053Nothing to do with IdusCHAD but everything with decent poise damage skill vs low poise miniboss
sharpening my machete for lardcake
So is Hero or Heavy Knight best if I wanna play a pure melee "fuck spells" kinds character? I can't beleve the set builders haven't updated with the new classes yet.
>>579447236how do i get a mentally ill undertaker gf irl
>>579447550You don't know how to figure it out yourself?
>>579447143It's not me I'm worried about. Also, you/that other anon were just simply wrong about real Mogh being balanced around 40/60. I reached the end of the game at RL2, that doesn't mean the whole game is balanced around RL2, does it.>>579447432We'll see. You won't get any invaders outside of here, I bet, which means it will just be me invading over and over and no one else. Another thing that could have been avoided if you went meta and NG+2, as I said.
>>579447529xhe doesn’t even post anymore
>>579447550You need faith
>>579439892I don't want to say because it would encourage you to cheat
>>579447053>can get a 100% phys block shield at the same weight in Limgrave/roundtable hold and no skill AND impaling thrust from Bernahl at the start of the game (literally right from Roderika) You're just a zombie that repeats other people's shit takes.
>>579447983No you don't. Talisman swap for bestial vitality is enough.
>>579447839>You won't get any invaders outside of hereYou do make a point; high invader activity would be welcome and SL90 isn't very popular on seamless.
my lvl 26 type b idus knight
I keep invading people at lvl 215 Whoever told me that no on pvps above 200 lied to me
>>579448764omg bootiful I cum invade you madam kisses
>>579343827i hate ed sentiest so much
>>579448764ugly
>>579448764cute type b!
>>579448764type a face
>>579448764Damn that bitch is ugly
Business plan;
>>579449241Fromsoft version of Smash Bros
>>579446152shut up terr
>>579449075Pest is easy
>>579449410I main Gwyndolin
>>579448930>>579449107>>579449164>>579449186>>579449224im type b irl and she's modeled after me.....
>>579449410
>>579448764this hoe gonna get fucked by banished knights until she forgets where she is
>>579449621must be nice
>>579446180shut up terr >>579449412>>579444834raped that maggot well done
>>579448764From my fresh rando run.
>>579370041>>579369307I forgot ruin arcs exist for my 2000 hours in elden ring. It's such a weird system to me. Demons souls and ds2 had the whole ghost form/hollowing thing. Ds3 had embers for coop.
>>579449617For me it's the pitchfork version
>>579350409Taunters Tongue is pretty much the only good form of invasion.
>>579449995>>579448764mogged sis
>>579449995Nice tomboy
>>579440884>>579441064>Or you can look at the post count and count backwardsSmart. I see now, you're right. The pro-filter thread was made before the bump limit, and the anti-filter thread was made 5 seconds after the bump limit. I guess you proved that point by a technicality. Though a 5 second difference is suspicious. I bet it was only a coincidence. Not intentional.
>>579449995Nice butch dyke
>>579450251very boring and generic to be desu with you family
>>579450251naomi seibt fetal alcohol lookin ahh
>>579449492don't blame yourself cutie
>>579449995someone throw a lightning hefty pot on xher NQVV!
>>579449995*uses bloodboil aromatic**throws hefty lightning pot*BOOM TRANNY DOWN!!!!!! BOMBA!!!!!
>>579450506>>579450598
>>579447839I've been thinking about switching to SL125/ NG+3/4 to make up for the extra levels, but a run with dried fingers active would mean up to 3 likely experienced invaders in the world at all times while we'd be fighting both them and the PvE and I don't think that would fare well since even dedicated ganks in cleaned off areas can struggle against a constant stream of invaders, let alone anons who probably don't PvP often.
>>579450506>>579450598Impressive
>>579447839>>579446773>>579444007Vitty trying to make this as unfun as possible for everyone involved
I unlocked the round table and dyed my hair
>>579451263You're beautiful
>>579451263hideous beast
Reminder that Rellana is canonically smarter than RennalaShe could conjure two moons and they are 2 Int more
>>579450998>errrm yikes an actual challenge from invaders?>skips NG+2 for some reason and jumps to NG+3/4?>>579451192Making some strange decisions, that's for sure.
>>579451192I'm open to suggestions and feedback, xis. Nothing is set in stone yet. I just want something we can all agree on.
>>579451368I'm open to massive fights, I just don't know how other people feel about it because this is mainly a PvE general.
>>579451624Hi mommy
>>579451359Um, retard, they both encountered the same moons. It’s likely that Rennala has her own variant of the Twin Moons spell. Fired instead of slammed.
>>579451649>this is mainly a PvE generalYeah NR fags have really done a number on this place.
Summon 1 yellow from erg, use taunted tongue, 2 invaders come in for fun 2v2s.
>Summon 1 yellowSorry, I don't summon yellows.
pest threads but it's moons
>>579451967Do summoned reds take up invader spots or co-op spots?
Renna’s Dark MoonRennala’s Twin MoonsWe should have had other moons, with slightly different effects. Kind of wish they didn’t make Ranni’s so much better than her mom’s. Rennala’s should have done more damage or had a 20% magic debuff instead of the measly 10%.
>>579451649How many people on the friendly side are we doing in Seamless? It goes up to 4, right? If your team that can't hit each other can't progress with 4 of you, then you don't deserve to leave Gravesite Plains kek. >>5794518742 friendlies vs 2 reds and NG+2 PvE is not balanced in favor of the host and his bf anymore. 4v2 and PvE is fine.
>>579452118Rennala’s moon should have had a 20% debuff while Ranni’s should have just been a 10% (with the added bonus of the frost debuff for a total of 30% extra dmg).
>>579450251Very cute.
This game is mmo tier braindead after D5, even at RL1.
>>579452315Yeah it's a real piece of shit stop playing it or talking about it.
>>579449995Ugly.>>579450251Cute.
>>579451874The four player limit is too low. I'd much rather have seamless to enable 4v2s or 3v3s.>>579452192>How many people on the friendly side are we doing in Seamless? That depends entirely on how many people join. We could have a 6 man party or I could end up being all by myself. I need to test out 125 DF activity on seamless unless anyone here has recent accounts of that.
Hot take, guard boost curves should be swapped for small shields and great shields.Small shields have no real niche in Elden Ring due to parry AoWs, outside of their low weight. Being able to block more attacks at the side effect of taking chip damage would be a way better trade off. Even thinking about it, why would holding a Fingerprint shield and taking the full force of an attack with a slab of stone use less stamina than small shields that were designed to redirect/deflect attacks?
>All the pvp trannies shitting on yt that pvp is dead??? Just spam ashes of war dumb fgts
First time I see Vitty not sperging out at people in his posts
>>579452919>Why would something that requires much more stat investment and weighs more not block better than my dinner plateAlso, parrying and blocking are two different things.
>>579453053They're whining about parry spam even dough you could always do it with carian retaliation and it's not like casuals are making use of offhands with parry.
What builds make Heavy Knight better than Hero for anyways?
>>579449995Is... that a personal attack or something?
>>579453543anything that doesnt use arcane
>>579453197Trish has been treating him good, they are so cute together
stimstaring at the siofra elevator instead of the lame nokron vista because i am an aristocrat
>>579453543Hero only exists for str arc weapons like chicken wing. Heavy is for 0 arc.
>>579449995>>579453587They don't look that similar
>>579452608>>579452192Oh right I forgot about seamless player limit. 3v2 or 3v3s sound more fun then
>do 3 duels>get 3 separate monkeys rushing me with no emote>win 3 duelsInteresting
Can you cheat enginekino a starter class
>>579453587>>579449995>resting bitch face short-haired dykeThey look similar
You can't make a female tarnished ''cute'' they look like they have alcohol fetal syndrome no matter what
Fetal alcohol syndrome*
if you heal in the colosseum I block you
>>579454446>they have alcohol fetal syndrome no matter whatIt's always the dudes with the worst taste imaginable using the term "fetal alcohol syndrome" or "FAS".I've never heard someone say that, and it actually made sense. Except when it was used to insult Egoraptor's girlfriend. That was the one and only time I was like "oh yeah, she does have those features". But the 100 other times, the term has been misused by dudes with shit taste.
>>579453197One of his specialties is being a two-faced coward thoughbeit
accidentally got rogiers rapier and now my matchmaking is fuckedthanks miyazaki
>>579453395100\77\81\79\75 is better blocking than 89\38\56\14\38 though for the investment. More stamina consumption for a higher amount mitigation doesn't seem like an unreasonable trade off to me.And I know that parrying and blocking are two different things, but how much real blocking was done with a small shield in real life, rather than redirection/deflection and how much more stamina it would take to lug around a huge shield and take blows with it. I suppose I just don't like it when things completely lack a purpose in-game.
>>579453543Sword Lance with Deflecting Hardtear
if your "build" has a rapier in the left hand you spam i block you
>>579454857It's impossible to make a good looking female in souls games it's not exclusive to elden ring dumb fuck
>>579455123What about a fist weapon in offhandWhat about smithscript in offhandWhat about dagger in offhandWhat about handaxe in offhand
At a certain point the PvP just turns into a game of "who can land their cheesy oneshot setup first" and I'm tired of itAs a host you just want to get through the level and any invader is a detriment to thatAs a summon you just want to get the host to the end of the level and any invader is a detriment to thatAs an invader your goal is to kill the host, killing summons isn't necessary but sometimes unavoidableEarlygame PvP is literally the only place this isn't really true but of course it's still sullied by twinks and password summons AND also still has a few actual oneshot setups that host/summons and invaders alike can abuse too
>>579454857cope.
>>579454913cutie type b
>>579455123>>579454875get fucked sissies
>>579454960I agree that equipment ideally should not be useless. The general rule of thumb is that smaller shields = parry better. A big shield blocking better just makes sense visually because it's covering more of the player's body. It's also physically more material, so on paper it's easier to block with and costs less stamina.
uhh is the door to godrick's throne always shut at first?
>>579455758Yes
>>579455216the rapier offhand is a clear reddit meta crutch for shitters
>>579455265I'm gonna be 100% real with you.Anyone who saw how dogshit the PvP is in Souls games and still tries it is a retard.
>>579343827>friend told me to install elden ring so i can drop the new weapons for him on his new save>niggers keep invading every chance they get>when they start losing the 1v2 they just run into a bunch of enemies and sit afkpvp should have never been a stable of this genre
PvP in souls is like playing street fighter 3.3 or 6, except that when you get parried instead of taking a combo you insta die.
>>579456039Being gay sissy faggots shouldn't be such a staple of you and your friend.
Good to see redcels seething as it should be. Really soothes my heart it does.
Damn I love this gloam eyed cunt
>>579456251Bodied that freak, well done.>>579456472We know DOSjeeta.
So many keks in erg
Just finished the Mortal shell 2 beta and decided to buy after the cutscene of the rope bridge.MS2 also makes me realise just how stagnant ER was from the souls series, when MS2 implemented so many new combat features like dismemberment, armour destruction, enemy morale, and last enemy finisher. Elden Ring's enemy interactivity feels more like a mile wide 1 inch deep puddle, like something nu-Bethesda would makeWhat the fuck was Miyazaki doing in the 6 years between DS3 and ER? In fact, looking at the rhythm fights in DS3 against ER with its non stop combo and input reading bullshit, its like Elden rings combat took a step backwards
>>579454857Generally I would agree because there’s another threadshitter in a general I frequent who abuses the term where it clearly doesn’t apply but in this case I wouldn’t blame someone for saying that
Souls pvp is for griefing or larping as an enemy npc. Adding official "dueling" formats is a joke, like a competitive pillow fight.
I just figured out how to solve Invasions going forward with the series. It came to me as a shower thought. It goes like this:First, every player is vulnerable to invasion by default. Summons or not, it doesn't matter.In order to protect themselves from invasions, they have to make an offering for "divine protection." These offerings are made at the same locations as summoning pool. The player goes up to the Effigy, and presses Y to interact. It brings up a menu where he can place resources into a box. He can place as many resources as he likes. Each resource has a value attached to it. Lower value items are worth fewer points. Higher value items are worth greater points.Secondly, the invader can only initiate an invasion, if he makes an offering himself. The effigy menu will display the lowest and highest offering currently active. The invader has to decide how much he's willing to risk, in order to be rewarded. He can only invade players who have an equal or lowering offering than his own. When he's made his offering, the game will automatically seek out a host starting with the highest offerings and working down.If the invader wins, he gets his own offerings back, along with the offerings the host made. The host has to offer anew to regain protection.If the host wins, he gets the invader's offerings. His own offerings remain in play, continuing to protect him. The invader has to offer anew to be allowed to invade again.This solves the problem of reds never being able to invade solo players. While giving solo players the ability to limit how much they encounter reds. The people who care more about invasions ruining their fun, will give up more resources to ensure reds stay out of their games. But reds can also accumulate wealth, and cast their net wider with each win.
Tree Sentinel Torrent=Red Hare
>>579456786Sell me on MS2. I'm still on the fence on buying it. All the gameplay I see makes the player seem OP as fuck even early. The aesthetics are appealing.
Killing scion with this class is like taking candy from a baby. Sheesh.
>>579456586got any pictures where Melina has large breasts?
>>579456830Anongold>>579456859Creasymold
I don't like the way the sword looks or the ability vfx but it is funny as a finisher
>>579456859Yeah! Absolute genius, you solved it sis!*turns internet off*
>>579456962Does slop count? There's a guy on /b that makes tons of Elden Ring sloppa.
>>579457004so cool...
>>579456859are you trying to be hated by both sides
>>579456962Yeah, but most of such images are lewd so I can't post them on blue boards.
>>579456859Great way to get 99999999 dung when you win.
Rancorfag is so lame and weird and raped and brown...it's a good thing no one likes him especially after he got raped during an erg fc
>>579457057sure yeah>>579457163understandable, I just really love Melina
>>579456859>>579457018Following up with an actual non passive agressive answer, the real way to fix it all is to make it genuinely rewarding for both sides. And theres any number of ways to achieve it, they just didnt bother.
has anyone ever fought the melina summon
>>579457232>just really love MelinaBased. There's lots of Melina and Ranni if you scroll through.>>https://archived.moe/b/search/username/Dizzy-01/filter/text
>>579456786>dismembermentIt's only cosmetic>armour destructionOnly on 1 or 2 enemies and it's kind of similar to crystalians>enemy morale?>last enemy finisher????Are you making shit up?Meanwhile all enemies have ultra janky rubber banding animations, teleport close to you when out of camera, tracking more ridiculous than DaS2. The whole "position and strafing" part of the combat is non existent, it's all parryslop or abusing iframes from dodge or abilities. There is no point moving because the player is just a magnet. It's atrocious, and it's in those things where we can see that Fromsoft is still a decade ahead of everyone else.
>>579456786You forgot an actual important feature and that's what deflects by default.
>>579457085...said no one ever>>579457214truth
>>579457232She's great, isn't she?
Fatrun time. Pass is frobro if you want to co-op.https://www.twitch.tv/drfrobotnik
>>579456935Its got Sekiro parry mechanics instead of stamina and you get a gun. Also no bullshit input reading bosses with unending combos
>>579457736I miss melimeli...
>>579457207>>579456859I should mention that you sill get the souls of the other player when you win. So even if someone does dump a bunch of dung in the offering, you still get something.Of course, preventing people of over stuffing with useless items can be done by limiting the number of same items a player is allowed to put into the offering box. And by balancing the value of items. A piece of dung might be only worth 0.1 point. So even if you put 99 into the box, that only gives you 9.9 points. But a single smithing stone would be worth 9 points. So dumping a bunch of poo in the box wouldn't be all too common, since accumulating 99 of them is difficult and not worth much.
>>579456859>>579457902Yeah cool>exits to menu>blocks recent players
>>579457802>Also no bullshit input reading bosses with unending combosLel.Nameless Captive? Isaac?
>>579457643Well if I hits someone with a Great sword on my guts cosplay, I expect them to lose a limb. Enemy morale as in killing some enemies causes one nearby to panic, step back and tripI've also seen special moves against the last surviving enemy in a mob. Let me play more to confirm though, it may just be a standard R2 kill
just raped this brown retard and blocked him lol
>>579457004go off transqueen
>>579458298are you single phoebe?
>>579458381she's trans give up
>>579458298>rage blocked and give xher rapist free hatemail lol
>>579458187I'm 1 hour in the demo and just passed the title screen. Right now it's fun to play something in the similar genre that does one aspect really well, when previous games have done good, like playing Enderal story after Skyrim
>>579458381No.>>579458489 Who are you quoting?
>>579458298Hmmmmmmmmmmm...
I'm gonna turn on taunter's tongue and quit out just to waste invader time.
>>579458298nigga...
>>579458753stop being a creep, leave her alone
>>579458753omg xhe is such a beautiful and valid tgirl
>>579458753HMMMM......
>>579458691You.
>>579458753>3k hours in runescape>2k hours in cs2>1k hours in new vegas>ER pvper>palestine supporterfemale my ass
>>579458474I love trans girls
>>579458753>>579458871when did vg started to become so polluted with trannies
erg tgirls...
>>579458974Chicks dig Fallout and supporting Palenstine.
>>579458991we know mushjeet go do your thing with xer
>>579458974>>579458753Damn that's pretty embarrassing kek
>>579456859Im the only person who will reply seriously to your idea, and it is flawed, or at least the way you wrote is flawed.The whole point of "offering" is to stave off invasions correct? Then why the fuck>When he's made his offering, the game will automatically seek out a host starting with the highest offerings and working down.It works like this?By a very basic logic, offerings arent fending off invaders, but INVITING them m as offering fucking nothing is the best way to not get invaded as the list goes from highest to lowest.Regardless, its a bit too esoteric and time consuming for something that should be simple, very DeS-like idea.
So what's the difference between the idus sword and milady? Haven't started another playthrough and grabbed it yet.
>>579459063>>579458991>>579458871Shut it terrmaggot>>579459136Not new vegas trannies love that one
Phoebegem
I canna find anyone to invade at RL200 I need cheat engine table to make builds for tarnished edition
>try to look at the recent players i connected to>takes a solid 20 seconds to tell me i haven't played any games with recent player list functionalitythis shit always worked and was instant with the old game overlaywhy do they need to make things worse all the fucking time
>>579459584This is why you never fall for the "RL150 is meta" meme. 125 is the absolute max.
>rellanasissy is an actual sissy
>>579459723clowning people for in game stuff is fine but doxxing is so creepy
>>579459721Yeah I'm gonna make a 126 and a 137 I already have planned
Anyone have the link to the rentry guide of all the NPC quests and missables in ER sorted by area? It used to be on the OP years ago.
Who's queued right now?
>>579459948theres roundtablehold.net which could have every possible checklist you could wantThis site has a list of missables at the very top:https://scripterswar.com/EldenRing/completion
>>579459723Lolbertarians stand for nothing man this guy goes free palestine and even puts the fucking flag on his profile but then turns around and acts racist towards browns. Huge hypocrites
>>579459723folks like these are our superiors. listen and learn, chudda.
>>579459436Because hosts with zero to low offerings are easy pickings, invaders will target them more often. From the invader's perspective: Why risk a bunch of resources to target a high value player, when you can just throw a few points worth in the offering box and still get invasions. Most hosts won't offer much for protection, if anything. So the majority of traffic will be in the low to zero offering range. Perhaps it will help to give some indication of the offering density. Perhaps a very generalized heat map can indicate where more or less players are in terms of offerings. Though that may not even be necessary, as the playerbase will naturally figure out on their own that lower offering ranges have higher traffic.Keep in mind: the invader can only invade someone with equal or lower offerings. So if a host offers 100 points worth of resources, and the invader offers 90 points of resources, then the invader cannot touch the 100 point host. But when matchmaking begins, it will automatically search for 90 point hosts first, and if that's not available, search 89, then 88, etc...
>>579458974Is it more or less embarrassing to have anime girl pfp but be listed as Male?
lol he deleted the comment but i can still send this to valve, chud
>>579460895yes transqueen get them chuds
>>579460895shut it troonoid you got raped and doxxed
>>579460895pwnage
I'll choose the frenzied flame ending for my nomadic merchant homies
>>579460895YWNBAW
>>579461086Genuine crime that Kale's quest wasn't finished. It adds so much to the lore of the FF and even some justification for it.
>>579461171fuck shabriri
get pwnd chud
>>579460706>targetnot him but you said the game automatically prioritizes the highest offering after the invader's. it just means higher offerings magnetize the sweatiest invaders.
>>579461262I don't even need to tell you to kill yourself. It is destined.
Rancorfag getting exposed as an actual troon is so fucking funny I legit couldn't have expected anything else
My normie friend said he felt genuinely disturbed when I let Melina sacrifice herself and then went for the Frenzied Flame anyways. I told him this was giving us both waht we wanted. She gets to die believing that she made her own choice and I get my prefered ending. Somehow that's sociopathic but in my opinion it is the most morally balanced one to make. Yes I am autistic, but I don't think that factors here.
>>579461426Stay mad, incel.
>>579461659>complete the (((merchant's curse)))>the entire world burns and whithersum based FromSoft noticers?
>>579456859Not reading any of that you need to work on being more concise man.>>579458753Gross.
>>579461659>burning the whole world>morally balancedYou are a brainlet
>>579461705post tgirl feet
>>579461705If you're not posting nudes I don't care about you reporting some angry retard
I don't wanna spoil the fun or anything but I wouldn't be surprised if he has a humiliation fetish and is baiting your hateful comments to pleasure his caged clitty
can someone drop me 999 arteria leaf and rowa fruit, farming these is so gay
>>579461908You advocate for a world in which suffering is inevitable and a person's quality of life depends entirely on whose balls they were spawned in. Regardless, it's not as if I'd want to end the world irl, it simply makes sense in a setting like Elden Ring.
>>579459063 >>579458991 >>579458871 >>579460993>>579460365we know t*** we know
>>579461330I ALSO said that invaders can only invade host who have made equal or lower offerings. The two rules work together.>it just means higher offerings magnetize the sweatiest invaders.There will be far fewer people willing to pay the cost to invade high value targets. If invaders are really willing to pay the cost, then sure, they might be the more sweaty players. But the frequency of these sweaty players appearing is still lower than the frequency of general invaders showing up without the offering requirement.
>>579462069>burn everything into the one great again>the cycle happens the same way it happened beforeKinda like the Big Bang in real life
>>579462068why not just ask someone to drop you 999 exalted flesh
>>579461904>Not reading any of that you need to work on being more concise man.I'm glad the post's length filtered you. I don't need small brains chiming in with half-baked opinions.
Speaking of Frenzied Flame, why does Melina not return to thank us after we cure our Frenzy with the Needle? You'd think she'd be grateful realizing what we went through to spare her.
>>579462245oh my god i didn't think of thatokay can someone drop me 999 exalted flesh
>>579462325I like the theory that the FF ending eventually ends up in the grey mass that is the age of ancients in Dark Souls
>enter a /vg/ thread for the first time in years because I've gotten back into Nightreign and want to play against non-randos>it's just parasocial drama and namecallingI guess some things never change...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62pYatbyHo
>>579456859>you can get invaded all the time but you can offer items at summoning pools that force invaders to offer an equal/higher value of items to invade you and the winner gets the loser's items. matchmaking prioritizes the host closest to the invader's offeringIs it that fucking hard for you to get a point across
I have no idea what kind of Dex/Arc split I should have for Eleonora's Poleblade. It doesn't seem to scale accurately at all. 150RL if that helps, playing a melee focused Dex/Arc with all the blood incants.
>>579462325Probably lack of trust at that point. She can't know for certain that you won't say "sike" and reveal your intent to let chaos take the world. Latent madness might show itself later.
>>579462306Not him but you're just a fucking halfwit who can't communicate effectively.
How is Melina supposed to kill us if the Frenzied Flame ending implies everything gets incinerated? Shouldn't her ass be dead?
>>579462797No, she's already bodiless and burnt.
>>579462591That isn't adequate to explain the concept thoroughly. After you've read my thorough explanation, you are able to abbreviate it, because you already grasp the nuances, thanks to my teachings.
>nightreign >againstThat's a piss baby faggot pve game though?
>>579462306You’re the only midwit here retard. Being long winded doesn’t make you smart it means you’re in love with the scent of your own farts and everyone can see that hence why you’ve only gotten one serious response thus far. See >>579462591.
>>579462523Heark
>Oh damn homie you killed Rykard?>Shiiiiiiet guess we better disband the Volcano Manor lolI'm so confused. What reason do they have to fuck off?
>>579462946>That's a piss baby faggot pve game though?then why were you filtered by it?
>>57946263640 dex, min str to wield the weapon you want, rest in arc
>cause a whole race to be locked underground to starve to death causing the birth of the frenzied flamebased...
greasejeeta goes one thread without getting his anus stretched by the collective thread (impossible difficulty)
>>579463134You forgot that death isn't a thing in the world of the Golden Order. They are just suffering eternally. All those 'corpses' in the FF area aren't corsp
>>579463089I don't pla trash games?
>>579462984>everyoneOh, it's this guy again. "EVERYONE hates you Creasy", "EVERYONE disagrees with you Creasy", "EVERYONE sees what you're doing Creasy"Isn't it funny how everyone conveniently agrees with everything you think?
shot that bitch in the head.
>>579463301>>579463224kek
>>579463268<3 phoebe <3
>>579462941It's adequate. You're just a condescending retard who thinks your audience is too dumb to make basic inferences. You lack verbal IQ.
>>579462069>suffering is inevitable so let's just kill everyoneIt's simply stupid, erasing the possibility of improving things is a nihilistic near suicidal way of thinkingThe status quo will exist no matter what it's just something you're gonna have to accept
>>579463268You proved my point then.Also why don't you play games that require real skills like fighting games? Surely you aren't filtered by them too right?
What was dungeaters problem? Did he just want to kill everyone?
>>579463116Thank you anon.
>>579463369Writing long posts, is not inherently condescending. But it's very telling that you think that.Being condescending is saying things like "Is it that fucking hard for you to get a point across". Very rude of you.
>>579463481It was a prank.
>>579463574np
>>579416732Janny melty
Fighting games are slow and clunky and have you seen fighting game players? Almost no White people. Dark Souls is faster and requires a higher spatial IQ.>You got filtered by my game being dogshit script killer slop for braindead pvetardslol
still no lordsworn's spear isn't that quite something
>>579462069>it simply makes sense in a setting like Elden RingThen why does Ranni's ending make more sense
>>579463268>american hours>but no american date systemfrom which south american banana country are you brown troon
>>579463481Mentally ill sex pest who thinks he's an Omen discovers a way to corrupt souls through extreme trauma before death. Then he gets his ass beat by you and the voices in his head say that you're him so he needs to be your victim. Somehow this creates a Mending Rune. It's just shit writing.
>>579463641Overexplaining simple things is condescending. You assume your audience needs it. And you do it every fucking time.
>>579463814Why are you a white supremacist and a rabid palestine supporter, pick a side looney troon
>>579463874Who are you quoting? My date and time are clearly EST, you public schooled mouthbreather.
>>579463739Ayo drop the build. I'm an edgelord and want to rock a blood theme character.
>>579463814>Dark Souls is faster and requires a higher spatial IQ.We're 5 games in and these faggots still can't figure out how to stop status from building even after I iframe through the hit. Fuck off.
>who are you quoting?This is like the fifth time he's said this. Does this fag not understand how quoting works?
>>579431749No I said invaders are 90% twinks and lack organic players who are just leveling because the loss of progress.Twinks don't exist because the risk of progress loss. They exist so they can bully lower level players with suboptimal gear and stats.
>>579463279When it comes to shitting on you that absolutely is the case. You’re the black sheep punching bag of this general. Even now you’re being curbstomped by someone else besides me >>579463369. You are lacking in more ways than one.
phoebetroon getting that ass beat kek
Did you learn about 4chan from pewdiepie /r9k/ videos? The funny green text is for quotations.
>>579463934>Overexplaining simple things is condescendingNo it's not.>You assume your audience needs itYes I do. But not because I think I'm smarter or better than you. But due to the fact that it's a new idea. Even smart people need new ideas explained to them.>And you do it every fucking time.No I don't.You read too much into the length of my post, and you got upset at a perceived slight that was never there. You lashed out at me, and I jabbed back at you. Now you're going to argue with me for 100 more posts and 12 more hours, all the while trying to paint me as the bad guy who loves to argue, when it's really you making a mountain out of a molehill.
>>579464013That's what I said brown troon.Your time shows EST american hours, but your date format is from non-america. This only leaves south america as your location.Now I ask again, from which south american country are you brown troon.
>>579463849Ranni's ending is literally destroying the world governments and then leaving the people to fend for themselves. People will still wage wars, enslave others and commit all kinds of atrocity, but somehow it's better if a man instead of a cosmic being commands it.Frenzied Flame is basically saying "we fucked up" and restoring the world to what it was naturally. We were never supposed to exist. Everything was the result of a cosmic accident and looking at the Lands Between makes it clear we can't be trusted with this shit.
>>579464007bwo...
>>579464201>You’re the black sheep punching bag of this general.You've been trying to force this meme since the first day my name was posted. You're just an obnoxious threadshitter who is obsessed with name posting. If it's not me, then it's Devil. If it's not Devil, then it's Terr. You're sad.
>>579442950Skill issue.
>>579464307Your "new" idea is not that complicated. I just distilled it to 2 sentences. All the fat I trimmed can be inferred with a double digit IQ. Stop abusing the character limit you obnoxious windbag.
>>579463279It is everyone tho, nobody likes you or sticks up for you because you're always wrong. And you conviniently refuse to admit that unless there's a named list of people who disagree with you.
>>579464045too lazy to load up the game and lookit's just 60 vig, min end to medium roll with my fashion, 40dex, min str for my weapon, min fth for the blood spells, rest in arc, level 150
>>579464045ayo ayo asyo ayo
Do you think preventing players from dropping items foxes twinks? I'd feel a lot better about being invaded by Antspur Rapiers in Limgrave if they had to get it themselves at SL 20.
>>579464550Well I felt and still feel that it needed to be explained in the way I did. If you don't like it, then don't read it.
>>579464686They'd have to fix cheat engine too.
>>579464635I like creasy
>>579464686people play the flame RL1, if someone wants a twink weapon it's not that hard to get
>>579451967Whites only.
>>579464309My....Nvidia default timecode on my webms? I guess you're an amd poor fag?
>>579464194youre my favorite avatarfag
>>579464465> You're just an obnoxious threadshitterironic because the only posts that don't shit on you are the "creasyallah" style shitposts.
>>579464686yes, I'd feel a lot better
>>579463279I agree with that guy, the majority think you're an annoying pseud.
I am a proud supporter of the creasy nation he actually plays the videogame unlike most of the thread shitters here
>>579453954I L1.
>>579464306said nobody ever.
Can someone on xbox drop me 999 rot pots at stormveil castle?
>>579464806I see you're quite slow. I'm talking about your regional windows date format you posted.Anyway you can evade the question all you want but we all now know you're from some brownhole from south america. Good to know.
>>579464384>Everything was the result of a cosmic accident and looking at the Lands Between makes it clear we can't be trusted with this shit.That's a really weird and nihilistic way of looking at it when you consider that the "cosmic accident" was an alien parasite and the events of Elden Ring only happen because Marika told the Greater Will to get bent and leave humanity aloneWe literally don't know what humans would do when left to their own devices in this world because they were never given the chance. Choosing to burn everything everywhere because The Shattering led to a war between all the people who benefited from it is idiotic and probably what the demigods would want if they ever learned that the Elden Ring couldn't actually be rebuilt
>>579464823The issue here, is that you think disagreement is equal to disrespect. We've talked about this before. So you think that someone disagreeing with me means they're shitting on me. But that's simply not true. They simply disagree with me on some topics, and that's ok.You're the one who blows their top at minor disagreements.
>>579456830Onyx rating detected.
step aside creasy we have a new lolcow on our hands
Creasygawd's word is law. Fulghor stomp? Unavoidable. Storm knight attacks? All of them, unavoidable. BBK has more than one attack with the same weapon? Unreadable and unavoidable.All those other Nightreign players are cheaters using chinese auto-dodge scripts for being able to not wipe all the time.
can someone please snipe this fag with the tree sentinel greatshield thank you
>>579464908Thank you. I've been in Nightreign queue this whole time btw. What are *they* doing? Doxxing some random steam tranny and ERPing in discord?
Give me an invader name/build that makes it seem like I'm not serious and don't care about losing (I care a lot, it makes me seethe)
>>579453513This, I don't get why it's a big deal. I've been spamming Carian Retaliation out of hit stun for years.
>>579465190want something done, gotta do it urself
>>579465015>>579463874>>579464194>>579464282Curbstomped that brown tranny maggot into oblivion well done continue what you're doing king
>>579464908>"plays the videogame">not a single gg post in this threadNone of you play troonreign anymore, queues are dead, and the game lost. We all went back to ER.
>>579464686you can cheese the antspur npc pretty easily. one of those idiots thats next to a cliff and you can just duck and watch them fall off
>>579465015Are you literally a retard? M/D/Y is standard format in the US, you clown lmao did you drop out of middle school?
>>579465357what a fat ass rabbit
>>579465153>All those other Nightreign players are cheaters using chinese auto-dodge scripts for being able to not wipe all the time.Whoa whoa whoa... Where did THAT come from? I've never said anything like that before.Your other statements about fulghor stom and storm knight attacks and all that are are twists of the truth. But I've never said anything about chinese players using auto-dodge scripts. That's a straight up fabrication.
>>579465081no, someone shitting on you means they're shitting on you, and everyone shits on you. except posts like this.
>>579464465>everyone who hates me is the same personYou’re so pathetic it’s crazy. In your sick mind you really are always the victim and can do no wrong. Never mind all the games you’ve fucked up and tried to defend after the fact or all the retarded arguments you’ve put forward and wouldn’t back down from that’s given reason people to be fed up with you or even when you used to randomly post those retarded Chinese tiktoks and tv shows out of nowhere that had literally nothing to do with anything, no, it’s just one person who doesn’t like you. I don’t say this lightly but you are easily in the top 3 worst posters currently here. It’s a goddamn shame you were one of the players that stuck around instead of literally anyone else.
>>579456859Fuck that.Savescums and cheaters would abuse the absolute fuck out of this while casual players lose everything.A better incentive is to provide pvp only rewarded gear and items for both invaders and hosts.
>>579464686only on consoles, that woouldn't make a difference on PC
>>579465312Even when there are GG posts he will sit in queue for 10 hours with no games while watching yellow fever AI tik tok slopNo wonder his brain's all mush, maybe that's why he talks the same way druggietard talks.
>>579465230Santa Claus.Weat the merchant hat and the Fire Prelate chest. Wave at the people you invade and drop runes/items you don't need. Throw warming stones in front of enemies so they can heal during the encounter. Act friendly so they think you're a good guy. One shot the host when they least suspect it with a Dagger Talisman boosted Misericorde backstab.
looks like the terr obsessed schizo has found a new target
>>579462946Cringe webm
can this troon post xer feet at least
>>579465423It come as the next step in your train of thought. How come nobody else complains or frequently dies to said enemies but you? If what you say about them being unavoidable and unfair is true, surely everyone who deals with it just fine must be cheating. Otherwise, you're wrong. And you can't be wrong.
>>579462946>graces ungbirdhuh
@phoebe I promise that if you post your feet I'll masturbate to It on my knees
greasytroon just can’t catch a break it’s tough to watch at this point
Anyone tried using two Idus swords? Feels awkward, it lunges so far forward on most attacks I sometimes lunge past the enemy and do less damage than if I had two spears.
>>579465425OK, dude. Whatever you say.>>579465440>Never mind all the games you’ve fucked up and tried to defend after the factLike...?>or all the retarded arguments you’ve put forward and wouldn’t back down fromLike...?>even when you used to randomly post those retarded Chinese tiktoks and tv shows out of nowhere that had literally nothing to do with anythinglol, those were funny. And I still post random videos. Just posted one yesterday. But those videos were to show that I'm queuing. Rather than simply say "1/3", I figured I'd make things more fun and post a video along with my queue status.I doubt anyone has a real problem with those videos except for you. You always blew it out of proportion, getting weirdly racist about it.>I don’t say this lightly but you are easily in the top 3 worst posters currently here.Majority of the posts that you hate, have been geared toward the game. We argued over the mechanics and systems primarily. The fact that you hate discussing the game this much, makes you one of the worst posters here.
phoebe it up yuh yuhthen 'rish it downand crease it around
>>579465489Hmmm you might be onto something. I tend to be really impatient and rush the hosts. I could probably win half my invasions from waltzing around while they die to pve, let alone waiting for a one shot.
>>579465915I don't even know what the light GS powerstance moveset is, chud
>>579465601so forced
pheobbe wonned
no one cares about your gock fetish t*** shut the fuck up
oh boy it's meltdown o'clock on creasy time
Can't believe that fucking retard thought we used D/MM/YYYY in the US. Unemployed retard.
Any word on if mods are going to require that Tarni$hed Edition bullshit from now on? I don't really want to buy FromSoft Horse Armor DLC...
People hate creasy because he's well spoken and doesn't spam buzzwords unlike most of you
>>579465974>argued over the mechanicsthe part you're omitting is that you post something objectively wrong about mechanics then spend 10 hours dying on your hill and moving goalposts when proven wrong.
>>579462946This is a good bit I will give you that. Keep going. Funny build.
>>579466206my wife
>>579466139>well spokenHe takes 10x more words to say something than a normal person.
>>579466127>troon meltdownkino
>>579466139I think it's probably the actual problems people have pointed out many times.
>>579465746>It come as the next step in your train of thought.Nope. Wrong.>How come nobody else complains or frequently dies to said enemies but you?I've posted players complaining about storm knights and black blade kindred before. And I've personally witnessed many other player die to them before. Including deaths from Fulghor's stomp.>If what you say about them being unavoidable and unfair is trueThey are conditionally unavoidable. I've always tacked on conditions to the claims that storm stomps and fulghor stomps are unavoidable. You just ignore those conditions. And then say my posts are too long winded. Maybe if you actually read and comprehended my whole posts, then you would understand the conditions. The one attack I said was was absolutely unavoidable from melee range, was Black Knight Halberd, which I did concede the point on. But after conceding, I noticed that it's still *conditionally* unavoidable too.
What the fuck did I miss?
>>579466206They did Melina so dirty man. I just wanted more time with her.
>>579466435>conditionally unavoidableTranslator's note: I can't mash R1 forever without getting punished.
>>579466189don't forget padding and derailing those talks about mechanics by complaining about tone or respect while being the most passive aggressive little bitchsee how he went>Like...?as if there's only 1 or 2 events where this has happened
>>579466482phoebe's locked Sissy clitty
>>579466189You can say I'm objectively wrong, but that doesn't make it true. That's just how you see it. You always fail to prove what you say is true, and then get upset that I'm not taking your word for it. You try to pull rank on me, but I don't acknowledge rank alone, not with proof to back it up.Ultimately, it's still game discussion. You're mad about game discussion. That's a you problem. Maybe you don't belong here.
>>579466487what a waste of potential sadly
>>579466589>Asking for proof is being passive aggressive nowBro, if it happens all the time, then you should be able to name like 1 or 2 times at least. But you can't.Name one game where I fucked up, and then defended after the fact. Go ahead.
>>579466675i don't get mad at game discussion, i get mad at your disingenuous posts about the game or otherwise. you're being disingenuous right this second by strawmanning me.
>>579465974>only one person had an issue with me shitting the place up with off topic dancing chinese girls and talking about them at random they were funny>lol what arguments I totally dont start them every time I draw breath or screw up a game and i definitely haven’t been doing this for months>ok yeah I do so what they were just over the game and me being an obtuse retard who doesn’t know how the game works you just don’t like to talk about the game and totally don’t take issue with me being pigheaded in particular >you’re just one guy taking an issue with all of this even as multiple people are beating my ass over the things you’re saying Classic Greasetard. Don’t lose that victim complex anytime soon. It’s probably the one thing that makes you stand out.
>>579466569>Translator's note: I can't mash R1 forever without getting punished.You keep repeating this line. But I've already demonstrated with video proof, that it's not a matter of R1 mashing. How many times are you going to repeat this same lame line again and again?
>>579466594Who?
simp hell itt
phoebe x terr
>>579466898My posts about the game aren't disingenuous. You just disagree with me, and handle disagreement very poorly.
>everyone always has a problem with me but the problem is with them not meDoes creasy… you know… have a long nose? I think it would make a lot of sense..
I hate you all
>>579467024It's also a matter of your geriatric reflexes yes, but that's why you complain that you can't stunlock every enemy with dagger R1s.
There are fewer invasions at 137 than at 200 and I die to lagging noobs if I taunt.We use M/DD/YYYY in the US, third world faggot.
>>579467219noktily !
winner winner chicken dinner
>>579467148hooked*
so much turmoil in erg... reconstruction is impossible...
>>579467219trannox !
>>579466675>You always fail to prove what you say is true>I don't acknowledge rank alone, not with proof to back it up.
just ignore the dumbass how hard can it be
>>579466914I'm sorry, but I see no proof here that I start arguments after games, or refuse to take blame for jobbing during a game. You're just piling more and more accusations on top of the molehill, hoping to change reality.Tell me a single game where I jobbed, and then refused to take responsibility for it.
>>579467219137 is a meme bracket for invading duelfags. Either stay low for stormveil or go all the way to 168-200 for dlc/farum/haligtree
the ergieporgies are getting so yurmy
>>579467219I've started blocking everyone who's a sweat lord, uses a scummy build like rancor spam and glintstone shard or is super laggy or latend. Makes a world of a difference.
Nightreign and it's consequences have been a disaster for the /erg/ race
o greaseallah
>>579467170My geriatric reflexes? But like I showed in the video, I dodged too soon, not too late. How can you say my reflexes are too slow, when I'm too fast?
>>579467219>>579467276>>579467443>>579467562>>579467572why is he noxxy?
>>579467571don't put those 2 words in one sentence
>>579467219post feet Phoebe you stupid troon
>>579467572basedthe guy you're replying to is an actual tranny btw scroll up
>>579465974You fuck every game you are in by virtue of making them harder.
>>579467615Because you were too slow to parse the telegraph and adjust your timing accordingly. Panic rolling as soon as the enemy fidgets is not good reflexes.
>>579467830Destroyed that clown, well done.
we malding on rancors now ogey
>>579467947I appreciate the rancor seethe
phoebe x blacked
>>579467947I'm glad I made some short incels hate....the slowest and easiest to avoid spell in the game.
>>579468065t*rrdalit post
>>579467457What? I conceded that Black Knight Halberd's whirlwind is escapable from melee range. I've even performed the melee range escape multiple times, now that I'm better at spotting the wind-up. But the matter doesn't end there. Since I've learned to escape it, I've also learned that there is more to it than raw reaction timing alone. Even if you react in time, you can still get caught in the whirwind. I've brought this matter up, and others agreed that it's the case. But nobody has provided an sure explanation for why it happens, and how to deal with it. Until someone discovers and shares are consistent solution to escape the attack from melee range, then I deem it conditionally unavoidable. The condition being bad positioning.
we got some vengeful spirits in the chat
>>579468065this is getting good.....
>>579467576nah, it's just a couple of unsavoury anons who try so hard to get validated through erp, third-person posting, and degrading others. the game and the ones who are simply here to play are fine, or at least tolerable.
>>579467830It wasn't a panic roll though. I can see why you might think it was. But it wasn't.The issue is that there is a delay in the enemy's attack that I didn't account for. You said this yourself back when we initially had the argument. I simply flubbed the timing, because the delay tricked me.
holy moly.
>>579468157The only way you'd get caught is if you rolled into him. So your "condition" is another player error.
>>579466914Most of us have moved on to rando queue
>>579468360do you wear a "slut" choker?
cc stop arguing with creastard and queue the video game
>>579468469That's not the phoebe tranny
>>579468518no slurs, please
>>579468518oh sorry then@phoebe read this >>579468469
>>579468157No, you didn't concede.You called it inconclusive evidence. You argued it wasn't melee range and that there was too much recovery time, despite the video showing otherwise.Someone posted perfect evidence and you still argued against it. You're full of shit.
>>579468410>The only way you'd get caught is if you rolled into him.I doubt that's the case. But since you brought it up, I'll be extra vigilant next time and make sure I'm absolutely rolling away from him.Do you have any proof to back up your claim though? Or is this another "trust me bro, I'm better at the game than you. But don't ask me to post my profile"
>>579468360Because you complained about the attack even after knowing about the delay. If it's still hitting you then it's a reaction issue.
>>579468518asking greasy to be their slut is so unheard of it made me stop and think
phoebe x cc frotting
>>579468696Yeah poor greasy
>>579468065>>579468271>>579468151
>>579468640>No, you didn't concede.>You called it inconclusive evidence.No, I missed the webm when it was first posted. Then when it was brought to my attention later, I analyzed the webm, and thought the black blade kindred was backing away. THEN I looked at video from Elden Ring, comparing the animation, and realized that he wasn't backing away. So after I had verifiable evidence that the guy in the webm was in melee range, I conceded the point.You must have not been paying attention to the full exchange. But please update your facts.
O, we need the grace we gotta have that grace
>>579468653I've already posted this. All three of his wind attacks. If he raises his halberd it's a quick dodge, if it's the foot you delay it more.
>>579467148>yellow fever (SEAmonkey variety)>libcuck>cries about “chuds”>always has a convenient excuse for wrong doingi think you’re on to something here O.O
you guys are way too funny, I was supposed to start a dex playthrough 3 hours ago
>>579450251
>>579469158you can start a dex play with these nuts right now faggot
erg queue is completely dead.
>>579468687>Because you complained about the attack even after knowing about the delayLike I said, even if something is known, that doesn't make applying the solution so simple. The timing is unintuitive, so I have to fight against what my intuition says is the right time. And I don't always win that fight. I think the delays feel bad.You refuse to admit that subconscious processes can come into conflict with conscious ones.
>>579469209you're beautiful
>>579469235I don't think anyone here plays the games anymore.
>>579450251Type B>>579469209Type A
>>579469058Bro, what? We were just talking about the Black Blade Kindred.
>reverse qs backstabs you>runs away crouching with concealing veil and Assassins GambitYare yare...
>>579469338I'm playing eldie ring and invading
>>579469213thanks for the surprise boner, idiot
>>579469249>subconscious processes can come into conflict with conscious onesThat's literally what action games exploit. If all the defensive timings were obvious there would be no challenge at all. The challenge is to intuit and adapt.
>>579469209patch notes?>>579469338we're all adventuring with our Tarnished Pack content
>>579469209i saw this one earlier on twitter too and i can't help but notice that this is just an amalgamation of what the creator thinks look good combined into one.>overly smokey eyeshadow on the lower lashline>very sharp eyebrows that's too close to the eyes>the random beauty mark below the lips
>>579468902https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/571911451/#571981159Why are you lying. It's right there.Inconclusive evidence.You argued that "Guardian was at the very edge of the attack" and that it was a "lengthy weapon". You said "BBk only started at the end of his attack, so he had time to recover", which also false since they have time to let the rest of the animation play instead of cancelling it by dodging early.You also got handed perfect evidence of Scholar being in melee range. You argued this didn't count too.Your exact quote was "I stand by the fact that if you're already in melee range when he begins the whirlwind, you cannot escape.", and the Scholar is mid melee attack while he begins the whirlwind.Again, you're full of shit.
>>579469437Well the same logic applies, you roll backwards from the first two hits. The iframe timing on the third is 100% consistent. The guardian webm shows him in the middle of recovery when it starts, and then a shitty non-invincible backstep. So you absolutely always have time to move out of it unless you grossly overcommit.
>>579469330shut the hell up mushjeeta pest
>>579469492Man I need to make some invaders.
>>579469830I'm gonna figure out how to use CE to make lower level builds. After the DLC, I only made high level ones
>>579469557Right. However, there is still a threshold where delayed attacks stop feeling right, and begin feeling wrong. Previous souls gave enemies delayed attacks, but nobody really discussed it as a problem. They just said that they needed to be more careful going forward. But when dealing with Elden Ring, suddenly everyone was like "why are the enemies delaying this long?" It started feeling artificial. And I've explained the various ways that delays can be artificial before. I'm not sure I want to get into all that again now.
>>579470006>Using CE to make low level invadersOh you're a faggot. How disappointing.
>>579469209That’s weird dude>>579469507That’s gay dude
>>579470006Get better names
>>579469479that's le epic
>>579470062Elden Ring also lets you run away or guard so you can observe the attack before trying to iframe or strafe it next time. Or just keep running/guarding when you see it. Making players learn patterns is the least artificial difficulty in video games.
>>579470006Shame on you. Earn your stormveil invader properly. Killing mohg at RL30 isn't even hard after D5.
>>579469581>Why are you lyingWhy are you failing to comprehend.I said that I didn't see the webm initially, then it was brought to my attention later, at which point I thought the black knight kindred was backing away.(As in, the enemy was creating distance, allowing the player to escape melee range)The post you linked is when it was brought to my attention.AAAAAAAAFTER that, I went on to analyze an Elden Ring video, and which time I conceded the fact that the guy in the webm was in melee range.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/571911451/#q571990338>Yeah, you know what? You're probably right about that. https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/571911451/#q571991324>I checked multiple videos from his appearance in Elden RingAccept facts. I conceded the point.
>>579470163Sorry creasedawg >>579470372got any suggestions?>>579470525Stormveil is fucking boring. I was thinking level 40-80 builds
phoebe x cupcake x trish frotting session
>>579470687That's even easier.
>>579470772no one will get this joke
>>579470687omg it's dagron!!!!!!! dagron!!!
>>579470721>>579468726>>579468065>>579467053>>579465991It’s exceedingly obvious who these posts belong to when you look at the archive of a certain dead general
>>579470772yaoi?
I dont care about any of this
>>579470413I would say that you have less ways to observe boss patterns in Elden Ring, because there is far greater magnetism to attacks in Elden Ring. if you try to stand back and look, suddenly the enemy is flying at you with perfect precision. And their combos are longer, so if you use the blocking method, you're more prone to getting guard broken. They also vary attacks based on distance more. So if you stay at a distance, you will see the long range attacks, and then you get close and they surprised you with close range attacks.All that being said, having the ability to learn delay timings, still doesn't change the fact that you have to play against them. And if playing against them isn't fun, then... well what can I say. Failing to be fun is the worst thing a game can do.
>>579470903kek
>>579470883dragon!
>>579471070>it's isn't funMost vapid argument in existence. Yes it is fun. What now?
>>579470163>>579470525nta but i've played more than enough to want to skip the roughly 2 hour run to get all the shit i wanna use for the one character i'm making at that specific moment
>>579469573How should I put makeup on my characters without it looking bad?
Just noticed they added a new dlc. How do you guys feel about it ? Is it worth buying ?
>>579471403less is more sis
>>579471416it's the biggest and best dlc everpirate.jpg
>>579470575No, that's not conceding from the evidence posted. The colossal R2's animation continues even as the BBK is in the air, you can slow motion check the video.You did not accept the video alone. You called it inconclusive evidence. You can claim that a later video that you saw changed your opinion, but the fact is that you were spoonfed blatant evidence and still disagreed.It's a perfectly good piece of evidence on its own that you deemed inconclusive. Even if you thought it was backing away, you're still wrong that it would be unavoidable. This was brought up and you ignored it.You did not concede to the evidence posted. You conceded to a different video's evidence while calling the first video inconclusive. That is objective fact that is in the archives that anyone is free to see.
>>579471309I say that you have a higher tolerance for bullshit than I do. Congratulations, you eat the shit with a grin on your face.
>>579469573 You're just jealous shes prettier than you
>>579471117>he casts Bayle incants >he consumed Bayle's heartOh fuck bro... you're screwed...
>>579471476>it's shit because... i say it's shit. i'm not being disingenuous btwIt's amazing many words it takes you to say so little
How does improved damage negation on relics even work? Say your character has 20% Phys negation. Does having Phys Negation +1 increase your Phys Negation to 22% or 30%?
>>579470006Radahn can be killed at RL1 with Rotten Breath and Mohg can be cheesed by despawning the map.
>>579471784All instances are multiplicative
>>579471815Ohh how do you despawn the map
>>579471403By not putting any.
>>579471784All instances are additive
>>579471815If you do the map cheese you might as well CE. It's literally cheating.
>>579471784all instances are diminutive
>>579471446>>579471903I'll tryt hat and post here. Hopefully it doesn't look bad
pfft
>>579471475The initial webm was arguable, because 1, the angle obscured the enemy's legs, making the exact distance between him and the player difficult to discern. And 2, I wasn't very familiar with the animation, so it looked weird to me.The only thing that the Elden Ring videos showed me, was a clearer view of the Black Knight Kindred's animation. To where I could note how he didn't create distance, and his animation wasn't as weird as I initially thought. When I was able to see that clearly, that insight essentially undid the notion I put forth earlier that the player wasn't in melee range. So yes, I conceded to the point that the player was in fact in melee range in the webm.Accept facts: I conceded the point.
>>579471784all instances are cumulative
well chat did xhe consneed
>>579471601>It's not shit, because... I say it's not shit.And who made you the boss?
>>579472239Nobody. That's why I don't use subjective fun as an argument, retard.
My type b looks like a twink if I remove makeup
>>579471784Just look it up on the relic compendium.Go here https://relics.pro/compendium/ and then ctrl+f the relic you're looking for.
>>579471549haha i was just commenting on how a fictional oc is clearly made by a man but yeah sure, you don't have to feel called out.
>>579472314proof?
>>579472087Holy shit there's an active fight club going on in Anor Londo right now, what year is this?
>>579472307By arguing that there is nothing wrong with delays, you're making the fun argument implicitly, whether you realize it or not. I know that's going to be hard for you to accept. So I expect your next post to be "nuh-uh! You are!"
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>>579472520too early moron
>>579472516>delays are bad because.. they're bad>you can't call my argument vapid because i know you will>wtf why does everyone hate me?
>>579472128Even now you're calling the 1st video inconclusive by saying it's arguable. It isn't. You are currently trying to say that you conceded to the video but that it also isn't evidence. You're contradicting yourself in the same post.You did not concede the point to the video when it was posted.It is also not arguable evidence, it is concrete evidence, regardless of the angle of the video or your familiarity with the boss.You are arguing two contradictory points and they are both wrong.
>>579469338I've just been playing randos. better than having to play with creasy or some of the other people here.
>>579469338tried queueing last night but after being 1/3 for 10 mins i closed the game.
>>579472605Sorry. Filterniggers could be here.
>>579472962>You are currently trying to say that you conceded to the video but that it also isn't evidenceNo, it is evidence. It just wasn't *conclusive* evidence.ESL moment.Not all evidence makes it possible to draw conclusions. I went and looked at the enemy's animation as further evidence. Combining the evidence, I was able to conclude that the guy in the webm was in melee range.It's kind of like the George Floyd situation. A lot of people think that the initial video was conclusive. The cop simply soffocated an innocent black man. it was all on video. Why argue? But then you see the body cam footage, and realize he wasn't even on the dude's neck that heavily, nor for the entire duration.I just needed to see the enemy's attack more clearly to understand what I was seeing in the initial webm. Once I understood what I was seeing, I conceded the point.This is what I was talking about earlier. How you get upset that I don't take everything you say at face value. Just because you posted the video, that doesn't mean I should instantly accept it. I'm going to analyze the evidence I'm given, and drawn my own conclusions.
>>579472383>muh moidsSo jealous men can make prettier dolls than you.
If the new reverse bladed sword has higher physical but lower scaling does that mean it's better with infusion elements like bleed?
C "playing Duchess doesn't make fights go quicker" C getting dat ass beat by grease of all people. Grim.
>>579472752>delays are bad because.. they're badNot all delays are bad. But the ones in Elden Ring are. You can't deny the fact that delays have been a point of contention in Elden Ring, where they weren't in previous games. You argue that I and others are wrong to complain. Why is that? Who are you to say that delays aren't a problem?
People are always arguing ober the best waifus in this game, but who's the best man? IMO the answer is obvious.
>>579473762>I and others are wrong to complainOthers and I don't complain. What now?
>>579473897In subjective matters, I'm of course going to trust my own judgement over yours. Duh. You haven't made the argument that the delays in Elden Ring are objectively good. You're just able to tolerate them.
>>579465440>>579465482>>579465312>>579466189>>579466334>>579466589>>579466569>>579466914>>579467824annihilated that cheesy lobotomite’s anus holy shit
>>579474079Your only remotely objective argument is that delays are not immediately intuitive. I said that's the entire basis of the challenge in these games, because if attacks were easy to dodge on instinct there would be no challenge or learning curve. So basically your idea of "fun" is braindead gameplay. Noted.
>>579473696possible
>>579474445And my argument was that Elden Ring exceeded a threshold where delays went from fun to unfun. As evidenced by the many people who only started complaining about delays after Elden Ring. You say "these games", as if all souls games manage delays the same as Elden ring does, when they don't. If Elden Ring's level of delay was mandatory to create an interesting combat, then the previous souls games would have failed to make interesting combat. But they didn't, now did they?So again, who are you to say that the delays are good? You really think you're making the objective argument, when you're not.
>>579474692No matter the case, I appreciate you answering me.
>>579474782Souls games also had unintuitive timings to learn. ER added another layer with longer delays. Shitters complained about everything remotely challenging in souls, ER expanded combat and gave them more things to complain about. You are whining about them adding new challenges.
Makin' my way downtown, walkin' fast. Faces pass and I'm homebound.
>>579472471Actually its called Anal Rodeo.
>>579475946Do not cite the deep magic to me, I was there when it was written
>>579476071I-I know. I-I just miss the good old days.
>>579476352Same, brother. Same.
>>579476489Kek
>>579475346>ER added another layer with longer delays.I'm glad you acknowledge that.>Shitters complained about everything remotely challenging in soulsSometimes they were right though. Like how Bed of Chaos is a shit boss. Or how Stray Demon's AoE had a misleading graphic that made it difficult to read, before the remastered version fixed the visual.Not everything that Fromsoft does is good. You can't just say everything difficult is inherently good.
>>579477312>Sometimes they were right though. Like how Bed of Chaos is a shit boss. Or how Stray Demon's AoE had a misleading graphic that made it difficult to readYeah, a handful of things out of a million.
>>579473447you seem really butthurt by him you should get that checked out
>>579477312Bed of chaos wasn't even a fight, it was a platforming puzzle in a non-platforming game with only one solution, where any mistake one shots you into a long runback. Delayed attacks are like any other combat challenge, with multiple solutions and plenty of opportunity to learn.
>>579478512Bed of Chaos wasn't only bad for those reasons. But setting that aside, can you believe people actually defended the boss? The Fromdrones at that time, acted like you do now. They offer solutions to problems that shouldn't exist in the first place, and then when you point out the fact that the problems shouldn't exist, they tell you to git gud.>Just slow down, and you won't fall into the holes.>Just use a shield to defend the hands here.>Just wait in this corner where it's save and observe its attacks>Just throw a firebomb from over here.>Just shoot an arrow from over here.>Just look down before you jump.>Just wait for firestorm before going inside.Who are you to say that they're wrong? Technically, you can beat the boss without jumping btw. So bench the "platforming puzzle" excuse.
>>579476071you got the quote wrong
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>>579479597Yes I can believe that some people arbitrarily enjoyed it. Its problem was being a prolonged obstacle course with both zero room for error and variable instakills, and a prolonged runback, all regardless of build or skill. Delays are nothing like this, they're like any other combat challenge.
>>579480657There were no instakills if in the bed of chaos fight. In a hypothetical scenario, a new player could have thought of all of those solutions, and applied them without dying.
>>579480841Well I guess in your hypothetical scenario there was no problem with the fight then, so why bring it up
>>579480903I'm demonstrating that you aren't making an objective argument. Bed of Chaos is not an objectively bad boss. You merely found it intolerable.
>>579481203I never said it's objectively bad, I described the grievances with it, none of which apply to delays. You are whining about unintuitive combat challenges which are the basis of the entire series.
>>579464635>>579464860he was too hurt by these to even respond
>>579481490What do you think about bed of chaos then?(I have to know, in order to illustrate my point) Would you say it's objectively good? Or Objectively bad?
>>579473447Don’t reference kino for this nonsense
>>579481941I'm not making any objective value judgment on it you retarded ape. I described how the "fight" works and echoed the grievances with it. That's subjective. If the entire series was variations of bed of chaos, and you didn't like it, I'd ask why the fuck you're still playing it. Delays are just another variation of combat that apparently trip up braindead shitters like you.
>>579350823Because it is
>>579482263>I'm not making any objective value judgment on itI know. That's why I'm *asking* you to make an objective value statement on it. Which I will then use to make my next point. Just tell me if bed of chaos is objectively good or objectively bad. And then I can get to the point.
>>579484485I just fucking said it's not objectively either. Good or bad is subjective. That's why I'm not using it in an argument, because that would be as retarded as you.>I need you to adhere to my retarded framing to make my pointThen your point is retarded.
>>579484912But your argument is all based on invalidating mine by pointing out how subjective it is. If you can't create objective arguments, then how can you say your arguments have any greater value than mine?
>>579487276My objective argument isn't le good or bad. My objective argument is you're whining about "unintuitive combat" which is the entire premise of the series, and an added layer to said combat that you adapt to like all the others. Which means that what you really like is braindead mashing.
>>579487567>My objective argument isn't le good or bad.It's not objective.>My objective argument is you're whining about "unintuitive combat" which is the entire premise of the seriesYou already admitted that the amount of delay in Elden Ring is greater than the amount of delay in previous games. So the amount of delay being different needs to be justified, before it can be said to be objective. Until it's justified, it's subjective.
>>579489475What the fuck are you babbling about? The delay is an objective thing. Your opinion on whether it's good or bad is subjective. It's objective that combat needs to be unintuitive on some level to pose a challenge and learning curve, so you objecting to it on that basis means you don't like challenge.
>>579489639>It's objective that combat needs to be unintuitive on some level to pose a challenge and learning curveyes.>so you objecting to it on that basis means you don't like challenge.No, because the delay in previous games already provided a challenge and learning curve. However, the delay in Elden Ring is excessive and needless.
>>579489803Adding new layers to the challenge isn't needless, it's what keeps it from getting stale. Your skill issue is not an objective indicator of quality.
>>579490350Your desire for ever increasing delays is just a preference, not an objective. Why not give enemies 5 minute delays on their attacks? You should be able to feel out 5 minutes.
>>579490447A 5 minute dps race could be a thing if it's done properly, yes. Or it would be very boring. I wouldn't complain just because it's challenging.
>>579490736>if it's done properly, yes. Or it would be very boringThat's the only part of your post that matters. IF the delays are done properly, then it would be fine. Or it would be very annoying. Elden Ring's delays are annoying.Who are you to say that the delays in Elden Ring were done properly? The mere fact that it's challenging, doesn't mean it was properly implemented.
>>579490929Who are you to say they aren't? You just said 5 minute delays like it's inherently a bad thing, I'm the one who said there's more to it. You haven't explained why ER's delays are bad beyond their length, and now you're moving the goalpost.
