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MGQP part III has finally been released. Further information here https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01114724.html

READ THE LINKS CAREFULLY
https://pixeldraincom/u/4ek8KWa6 (3.01 Raw)
https://pixeldraincom/u/4CdBetZr (3.04 Raw)
https://pixeldraincom/u/f2mDYcL6 (3.05 Raw)
https://pixeldraincom/u/pePcyBvE (3.06 Raw)
https://files.catbox.moe/s749a9.zip (3.04 BobMTLV 2.1.3) (You can use this patch any version of 3.04)
https://pastebin.com/3CiEGJRY (3.04 Prepatched Manuel Edition 2.13 + QoL, read the EMME readme)

Innocent Rules has been fully translated
NEW Youmaen has finally been fully translated : https://mega.nz/file/5Z1QnDZQ#4fFLCwIIP5xWrs0e8xVptgGHnmYOx8qNY37-PiWtHmc
SHRIFT II 2.56 has been mostly translated https://mega.nz/file/KIEAnAAR#gZSP8wYdutRThD3wJkcd1L2mPTgpzUdPyKzdVG4BOKw
New MGQ Wiki: https://mgq.miraheze.org/wiki/MonsterGirlQuest_Wiki
New MGD Wiki: https://monstergirldreams.miraheze.org/wiki/Monster_Girl_Dreams_Wiki
Japanese MGQ Wikis: https://seesaawiki.jp/mqp/
Three Charms Lonesome Spirit collab translation has been updated; Link: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/435693950/#q435711784

Game guides and resources: https://pastebin.com/D8Bn18pQ

You can get the latest translation of the Paradox Part 3 Demo translation files from ArzorX's Bitbucket:
https://bitbucket.org/ArzorX/monster-girl-quest-paradox-translation-part-3/downloads/

You can get the Part 3 Demo files directly from Fanza here:
https://sample9.dmm.co.jp/digital/cg_game/d_310859/d_310859t.zip

You can read a guide on how to apply the patch at ArzorX's Blog here:
https://arzorx.wordpress.com/2019/08/11/how-to-manual-patch-the-game-with-the-recent-translations/

Get the /mggg/ canon as well as apocryphal savefile for Paradox here (Part 3 ready):
https://catbox.moe/c/wa18jy

Tiny Improvements + BobMtl for 3.06/3.05/3.04,Ultimate Magical Girl Bug Fix.
https://pastebin.com/w87i82zP

ToroToro Resistance's blog:
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/4710
Previous Thread: >>579155921
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Artist guy drew Sandalphone and her daughter
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>>579379390
Boy this spam sure is engaging and we should pay it a lot of attention

>"but anon it's just harmless cute stuff"
No, it's "just" the usual attention whoring kind of crap that wannabe ecelebs and other drama magnets do
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>>579379975
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>>579376624
Grangold king dude.
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>>579378864
What's the easiest way to play mgqp, even if it's only part 1, on an android phone? I can't buy the new, official part 1 phone version since none of the payment options work for Americans. Also I don't have pc access rn, and neither joiplay nor neko rpgxp worked for me.
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>>579379390
Who's the artist and will he do Metatron next?
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>>579381896
The guy goes by Zazero on Pixiv (though I'm posting rn was made by Luc, also on Pixiv). I guess he might also do Metatron? I dunno
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drew this Rami
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>>579385303
Cute
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>>579385385
danke
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>>579387020
Will you draw anything else?
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>>579385303
Cute and soulful.
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>>579387725
kek.
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Ah. So that was the strengthening I needed for Lala
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>notice succ size
>extreme boobs
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Anons, I need help. I'm softlocked in Layer 9 of the Chateau des Romances in the collab scenario.
Fulbeua is there, and she force-teleports me back when I try to walk past her, but I CANNOT start a conversation with her (and thus the fight), there's no interaction whatsoever. She'll track my position and rotate accordingly but she genuinely doesn't even move.
What do?
I don't have the cheese installed, but I have the all in one patcher and can install it.
What happened? Did the bobmtl break this specific thing somehow?
Can I call a specific event/fight/whatever with the cheese to fix it or am I fucked?
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>>579388529
pic related
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>>579388387
>Kanon pussy
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Cute. Even kanade uses a boomerang
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>>579388529
>>579388665
I don't know about the cheese but you can't interact with her or the crystal and there's nothing to do then something must have went wrong with her, you could try messing around with moving the save to a raw version or patching it again and see if you can interact with her.
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>>579390240
She IS the Slime Ancestor after all.
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>>579387072
sure, here you go
>>579387454
danke danke
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>>579391470
can we have a third thing it looks weird without a third thing
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>>579388387
>Anon Probably Succubi

Wait wait wait wait wait
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>>579390240
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any new games with mo*ster g*rls?
doesn't have to be *ornography

the stars spell out, in order: N I P
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>>579393110
Ples
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>>579391518
sure but wait a few hours, I'm gonna go to sleep
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https://mega.nz/folder/md1nhZoS#muuUovhlmEDaFNNa1_wJMA/folder/zNty0Z5b folder of the collab scenes

Neris's scenes translated
https://mega.nz/file/Rlx3xT5T#HP7HFyhnh1wVkiCf2SGLqu8v2v_MpFbBP4w2Z7E2knI
https://mega.nz/file/Vh5TFLII#q2ET_3NmgG1xeY3wT5s2H8j2xiwd3zj7NX4LFBV_W9E

Probably just sounds like begging at this point, but still curious about singularity's.
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>>579393474
It is kinda fair to ask for a translation since iirc she's paid only that shit a pain in the ass to even get for personal use.
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>>579388387
Oh, please... Most of them aren't even normal human woman level.
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>>579393996
Who the fuck warped reality to make normal human women huge?
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>>579394034
it was i, a level 81 milk wizard
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>>579388387
>angels perfect porn
It's called "wincest" for a reason...
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>>579394974
https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
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>>579395064
https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
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Is the guy posting delicious immortal?
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>>579395374
How else could he survive getting eaten alive four times?
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>>579395961
>breakfast
>lunch
>dinner
>desert
>full course

5 times.
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>The Battlefuck goddess is minagi herself
cool.
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I think the six ancestors SUCK and are POORLY WRITTEN and are BAD FOR THE LORE
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>>579398813
I think they dont have enough kids if what other people are saying.
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2nd try's the charm.
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>>579398813
Why?
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>>579398813
Dude's mad Tamamo didnt have sex with him ignore him.
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Thanks uncle.
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>>579399460
Double check did you do everything?
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>>579393474
>neris1
>that entire lava sequence
Is mtl hallucinating about sealing? is that some game context, what is she even talking about? I assume lava is mistranslation, but still..
>grandpa said he'd turn into a loli too
all right, fine, what the hell? and who is she even talking about?
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>Nero's trait
KEK
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>>579399551
>grandpa
Marcellus, explain yourself.
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>>579399551
She must be talking about Tamamo or Lucifina. Grandpa must be MTL fucking up the pronouns again.
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>>579399742
>>579399718
oh, it can fuck up grandpa/grandma? I'd think they were completely different words
then it must be Lucifina and entire sequence is about sealing
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>>579399550
Should have. Amira has no dialogue anymore.
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>>579399657
Check his glasses compared to the other one to see if his glasses are actually a bajillion times stronger.
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>>579399551
>lava

Nope, that's not a mistranslation. There's a volcano in the TD world where the lava doesn't kill you, it turns you into a loli. In the story of the game, some burly manly knights ended up falling in, and were deeply humiliated at the result, finding it worse than death. I think one of them said something about now looking younger than his daughter.

That volcano is the source of more than one gag. Like one guy looking for the fountain of youth and discovering that it's lava that turns you into a little girl.

Grandpa probably was a mistranslation of something though. It being the classic MTL thing of switching genders, meaning it was supposed to be Grandma (could be Lucifina in that case) seems plausible.
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Man. It's been such a long journey.
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>>579400107
Nah clearly Marcellus accidentally fell into the volcano while being scared of his wife.
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dolphin porn
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>>579400107
If Marcellus was around, the weird loli line could make sense because of the volcano. But since he isn't, Lucifina does sound like the likely culprit instead.
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>>579400291
They are gonna turn this weird inbetween of vnfina and angelworldfina into luci-chan arent they as a paid skin.
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>>579400424
Probably.
But we might get a surprise similar to our favorite little sister. Think about it, a loli Nero.
MGQ still hasn't reached its peak degeneracy, and Luka fucking his lolified son could be that. TrTr will never allow yaoi, so this is it.
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>>579400820
Trtr only allows yaoi via a loophole with characters that aren't his.

Even then he presents buffs for said characters for not letting them have sex skills.
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>>579399551
Every single time there has been a choice in MMTD I have been second guessing and assuming the translation is badly broken, then I triple check it, then realize that the conversation on meeting at a time has just gave me the option to find out about the kingdoms laws on working hours.
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Aww. Thanks mom.
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A SELF TAUGHT technique this time. Quite the twist!
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Cool.
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>>579402352
Don't forget to give it someone! Feel free to just reload to see what different options say and such.
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>>579379975
calm down schizo that’s not what spam is
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>>579399551
The whole sentence is her wondering how much of a loli the lava makes you and that someone said even an old man got turned into a loli, and wonders if that pretty much makes you immortal. in this context grandpa = some old guy
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>>579403734
>>579401578
>>579400107
Today I have learned that playing fantasy games with live MTL is very tough.
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>>579402845
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Iron Maiden best girl by a mile.
Is there a problem if I pick the Bonding Event? Like locking me to be her husband ala Fire Emblem? Cause I was actually thinking of doing that but there is an entire game out there so if I do an irreversible choice now I can regret it.
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>>579400148
>>579402352
>>579402720
>>579402845
Alright, since you are here at last. Let me try to slightly avert a tragedy that befell another playthru anon

The teleporters for each group are as follows:
Luka A1+2, BCD 1+2+3
Ilias also A1+2, BCD 1+2+3
Alice however A1+2+3, B1+2+3, C only 1+2, D1+2+3

If you're missing one of those by the later parts, you probably missed a "cave door" looking place on a route or something. Almost all of us had a gate blocking Alice or something probably that just fucked us up for an hour+, really kills the vibes.
For me, I'd noticed a missing teleporter which had me backtrack to what I had missed.
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>>579400281
Need Micaela pregnant and her children touching her belly.
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>>579405656
idk if it locks you out, but yes, iron maiden is the best shrift girl by far. her backstory cutscene contains a cg of her before she got transformed, she was even cuter back in the day.
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>>579400281
HOW MANY KIDS HOLY SHIT.
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>>579400281
Luka is a sexual deviant
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>>579400281
Not one that looks like him.
Luka is making litteral clones.
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>>579405656
I am pretty sure you can watch all bonding events without worrying about that.
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>>579387725
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>>579408914
>weak to pleasure
has no chance, will get granberia'd
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>>579406972
>>579408534
Awesome
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>>579409076
Would Goku have a pleasure weakness? I'd almost believe him to be almost entirely sexless if he didn't have a wife and two kids, somehow. I think Chichi was just dryfishing his ass when his guard was down
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>>579408914
Goku wouldn't order a succubus, he'd lose the ability to ride the flying nimbus
Also his wife is hotter
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>>579403734
>how much
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>>579406448
The monkey's paw curls:
https://wimg.rule34.xxx//images/1948/58301210ff7652989324abeb76387f91.png
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>>579409462
Is there anyone who is resistant/immune to pleasure while not being somehow related to sex? From what we know beasts/dragons are vulnurable to pleasure, the whole "durable body but weak to sensitivity" thing, so I extrapolated from that.
>>579409651
>Jesus Christ how horrifying.jpg
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>>579409876
Ghosts are known to have a pleasure resistance in paradox. Robots too, I think.
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>>579409967
Well, that also makes sense since they pretty much can't cum. Well they can because porn game but logically neither have flesh body to experience pleasure.
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>>579409876
Also now when I think about it, in other words...
>The best way to defeat a dragon is to fuck a dragon
Huh. I am not even sure if I should insert a shrek joke or there was something older.
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Goku reproduced asexually. He divided and multiplied, and thats how he got gohan. Chichi is just a bread
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>>579410530
what about Goten? He was born when Goku was dead
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>>579410581
Goten came from a seed that Goku planted in his yard. Saiyans can reproduce on many ways, because they can't love, so acts of sex is really awkward to them.
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>>579408304
It really should have been obvious, they would not give Vivi as an option in this without mental gymnastics
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>>579410776
Then why is there a royal family?
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>>579411389
It is, but it's still funny anyways from seeing her having to awkwardly force the pose
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>>579393474
I may give Singularitys a try later, maybe.
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>>579409578
If I didn't know how crazy those guys were, I'd love this design with them basically bottomless aside the belt
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>>579409462
Team Universe 7 was shown to be immune to Team Universe's 2 charm attack (even Master Roshi of all people, though he was more of a LoC Boss Granberia case where he trained hard to get his immunity), so, I doubt it.
>>579409571
He's on a special training journey for his next "sparring" with the angels.
And if by hotter you mean more of a hothead, then, yes, annoyingly so.
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>>579409571
He was told she's good at fighting his innocent nature wouldnt understand what a succubus is.
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>>579412036
To be fair they shoehorned a "training session" with roshi to get resistant to perversion even though thats kinda the core of his character.

This kinda screams them tryna nerf him to keep up with modern censorship standards.
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>>579409578
To be able to still run decently and not trip with a sword after having your body altered like that this guys got determination.
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>>579405656
Bonding events don't lock you out of anything, they're even good for you because each bonding event adds to the compendium. More compendium, more completion%, more rewards.
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Kek. Does he have dialogue for the other two?
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>>579412373
Thanks very much for confirming it bro.
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>>579412347
He got buffed apparently.
Either he trained off screen, or turning to a little girl gives you a massive strength booster.
Still, I remember people getting kind of pissed at the scene because the MC ruined the guy's honor, and his desire to die in combat.
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>>579412782
>turning into a loli makes you stronger.


If this is a case it opens up Lolidom im just sayin.
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>>579412606
Same dialogue for the other two but he has it.
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>illias final theme plays for this
Hell yeah. Nostalgia!
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>>579412869
If it does make them stronger there is a non zero chance a group of poachers dive into the volcano to get stronger.

Congratulations now they are lolis.
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>>579412227
I don't think that was their concern, considering Roshi later threatens Caway with rape:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlC3COQ1YQ4
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Took a while.
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>>579378864
What is this board's opinion on Monster Girl Tavern? It is unfinished, but it is regularly getting updates, and going by the author's past record, it will probably be finished.
Art is improved vastly from Monster Girl 1,000, and writing in all aspects, from world to story to sex scenes is super fun.
I especially liked second mosquito scene, as well as imp scenes, but main heroine is also quite enjoyable.
The only thing that "worries" me is that gameplay seems a bit aimless, and future minigames could get bad. So far, the only one I didn't like is Slime RPG, but I found both Yugioh clone and the mining minigame fun.
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Ah drat. At this moment?
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>>579413274
Huh fair i just considered super having far less blood than the previous series' to be them going completely soft on both aspects it's been a hot minute super came out when like uh

IT CAME OUT OVER A FUCKING DECADE AGO OH FUCK MAN I FEEL OLD.
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>We have to fight Luka's bad endings now
holy shit KINO
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>>579413448
I can't say im too much of a fan of western monster girl games in general. Twisted scarlet's art is also kind of generic. I don't have anything against him personally, though. I'm sure the game's fine, I've played a decent amount of his games like monster girl 1000 and the tatsumaki one and a lot of them just don't really grab me much. I dunno
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Can I give the ring to angel soldier
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>>579413448
Does it got lolis?
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>>579413448
>going by the author's past record, it will probably be finished.
>Monster Girl 1000
that got finished?! i thought it was the classic patreon scam

speaking of patreon scams, what happened to monster girl island?
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>>579413448
Looks like the usual westoid slop that, for all their whining about AI, just blatantly copies others shamelessly.
Reminds me of that other game that super shamelessly was ripping off shiki art and such.

Let me takes some guesses:
- Ren'py slop
- "Visual novel"
- "Visual novel" that doesn't actually have depth but basically forces the player to whore out to most of the cast to progress at all, with minimal actual decisions
- Is "charming" with its "humor"
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>>579413873
monster girl island's been hyper dead for years, anon. The guy's completely disappeared.
>>579413897
Most of his games are actually pseudo rpgs. Not amazing ones, granted. But there's stuff there. Tavern is a tavern building type thing and 1000 was a kind of okay rpg
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Man that's something coming from illias.
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>>579413971
>The guy's completely disappeared.
damn. imagine making tens of thousands from patreon and then just dipping like nothing happened.
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>>579414131
Happens a lot of time with wegs.

Say what you will about Japanese games but the developers are usually autistic enough to either finish their game or die trying as long as it isnt live service.
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>>579414131
There was this whole schizo conspiracy too that the whole reaosn the game had fast updates and then fell off a cliff is that he stole a lot of assets and when he ran out he stagnated. But i'm not sure how actually true that is. Fast updates at first and then hard slowing down is just kind of how these games operate. Most of the porn games i've followed have been updating for close to a decade. I may not love twisted scarlet but I cant shit on the dude too much he actually finishes his fucking games
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>>579409876
On the bright side, Angel, Scylla and Slime is not a half bad race combination... not sure what alraune adds to the mix though.
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>>579414249
This literally happened with Mgq with that one shitty 3d remake that shouldnt' ever be mentioned but im mentioning it to give an example off the top of my head dude made a fucking kickstarter during it's peak popularity then never finished the fucking thing no im not joking.
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Rather underwhelming.
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>>579414131
>damn. imagine making tens of thousands from patreon and then just dipping like nothing happened.
kek Yall should really browse lewdzone sometime
While I very rarely find decent games, it just really illustrates how many of these "games" are patreon scams.
The funny ones are when they've actually put some of their grift money into the game... but they put twice as much effort into convoluted anti-piracy paywalling as they have to actual updates with substance.

You can usually divide these things into
>Patreon Scams
>Ren'py Slop
-UE5 Slop
>Jap games which are actual games
>The 0.2% non-jap made game that is actually a game, but it still takes forever because it really is like one dude doing it as a hobby
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>>579409651
You should post the sister piece to that. GMW Michaela doesnt know what pleasure is, only pain. Saja is at the receiving end of her lesson.
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>>579414476
get it anyways. Luka needs more power
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>>579414249
It's hard to compare the two because erogames are their own industry in japan whereas over here it's largely a kind of cottage industry supported by patreon
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>Master's headache and brain itch is getting progressively worse
>Lucifina suggests he might have a cold and should lie down and use Vivi like a hot water bottle
>Vivi doesn't like being treated that way but would do it if he actually needs it
>Harpies offer to snuggle
>"Gula" immediately asks big bro if he also likes 'warm things'
>yeah I guess
>She immediately tries to sleep with Luka so he'll be her fan
>Neris and Alice barge in immediately
>Neris declares only she gets to sleep with Luka
>Alice tells her to shut up, only SHE gets to sleep with Luka
>Lucifina asks if it's ok
>"Wait Lucifina, it's difficult when you show up?!"
>Black Alice tries
>"You have another hero! Be satisfied with him!"
>Ilias returns to her sealed form and tries
>"Don't just casually shrink back into a child!"
>Luka tells everyone else to calm down by reminding them all that the one who needed the break in the first place was Master and not him
>Bro, you ok?
>Master just feels really uneasy, like he really needs to stay together with everyone......
>looks over
>"Gula" is staring into his soul
>Gula? You ok?
>"No. I was just thinking that being human is tough. Take care, boy."
>Master feels an even greater sense of unease

Just run back to the beach resort and call the kraken guard they'll take care of this for you
Machines don't like it when you pour saltwater on them
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So is this Luka's final form or am I missing some shit?
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>>579414632
Fair but i swear even their cottage projects get finished more often but that may be due to their work ethic.
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>>579414820
There may be more races and/or jobs to unlock.
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>>579414891
I mean to be fair it's not exactly like we're going to hear about many of the obscure failed projects that never make it anywhere. Kenoku's MGE game exists
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>>579414449
that scam was even worse than the average ones are
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>>579414249
>Say what you will about Japanese games but the developers are usually autistic enough to either finish their game or die trying as long as it isnt live service.
Emphasis on "usually"
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The end has come. Time to spank Chaos across the ass.
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>>579415047
Didnt he try rebranding a few years back?

And also i guaran FUCKING TEE this dickhead would use ai if he tried doing this nowadays.
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>>579415141
How many years since this guy started his game genuinely curious cuz trtr has been doing shit for 15 years comparatively.
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>>579415349
trtr is an insane giga autist and should not be compared to anyone else, even other japanese people. Like something I think should be understood is that the vast majority of japanese eroge are just kind of shitty gallery viewers with a thin veneer of a game. Trtr's autism is leauges above almost anyone else in existence, he's just that wack
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Oh jeez. What happened to you Hild.
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>>579415471
Yeah i know but kenkou sometimes shows up to drop character designs or cgs in mgq hence why i was asking.
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>>579415527
Ever heard of the Phrase Deus ex Machina. Do you know what this means by definition from latin to english?
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Well thanks for not giving her ego death at least.
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>>579415686
Oh indeed I do.
God From The Machine
Very very clever there Torotoro.
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>>579415047
>>579415203
>>579415471
I'll at least throw my light commendation to the few/single person who is "Deveria Studios" with their handful of Corrupt [location] games
First two are rough af, but Corrupt Descent was actually decent, Corrupt House is whatever

Just simple 3d patrolling horror monstergirl rapes you games.
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>>579415689
She isnt that bad of a little girl.
Famiri is still important, even if the mother is just a glorified walking vat tube.
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>>579413676
I found art of monster girl 1000 to also be generic, but I think there is a vast improvemnt in this title. Though I get your position

>>579413705
It is a western patreon game so no classic loli, but you do get red brats, and they have possibly the hottest scene. Basically, they make some dumb plan that MC realizes immediately but follows through. You end fucking one of them, while the other one is doing analingus to the girl you are fucking.

>>579413897
>- "Visual novel" that doesn't actually have depth but basically forces the player to whore out to most of the cast to progress at all, with minimal actual decisions
Lots of assumptions but this one takes the cake. The MC is the only one that fucks the girls, and I think all titles before this one functioned the same. Why so much cuck fantasies?
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>>579415868
I did say spank. And even at this point Luka only says "defeat" not "kill". He's not frothing at the mouth raring to rip her out of the womb.
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>>579415903
Bruh where is the desert there's supposed to be nothing there and it's supposed to be hot..
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In terms of WEGS i've honestly always been partial to CoC2. i'm well aware of it's faults and I don't disagree with them, but nothing appeals to the pregfag fantasy as much as that game does
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Oh wow! Cute cute cute! She hits all my good spots. Glowing tattoos, glowing eyes, black red and blue, kimono, CUTE!
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>>579415903
>Lots of assumptions but this one takes the cake. The MC is the only one that fucks the girls, and I think all titles before this one functioned the same. Why so much cuck fantasies?
Why lack of reading comprehension? You somehow took my criticism of linearity and "the player in the visual novel is forced into a bunch of scenes with a lot of the cast to progress" as some kind of dumbass ntr shit somehow.
Whereas I was criticizing the linearity and the fact that rather than letting the player actually pick and choose things more selectively... that requires too much effort, and obviously every player who picks up a game is really eager to do h-scenes with a whole pile of characters.

I definitely hit the marks if it's being met with this much vague defensiveness.
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>>579416262
Have fun she's Luka's kid and you've seen Nero so expect.. something.
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>>579416262
I'M HERE TO KILL CHAOS
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>>579416289
work on your bait
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>>579416262
PREPARE TO UOHHH AND CUNNY BUNNY LIKE YOU'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE ANON.
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>>579416262
>cute
sure, i guess
it's not gonna save her from daddy's chaos belt
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>>579416204
Same anon, same
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>>579416387
Honestly, I should've read up in your post since you more or less confirmed it. Forced unskippable threesome shit that for all the "rp" ignores the player's agency entirely.
Also also
>>579415903
>they have possibly the hottest scene
>analingus
Rancid. It genuinely manages to say a lot about how accurately I dissected something I'd never heard of just from 1 image. Just from 1 westoid lazily ripping off characters.
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>>579416262
IM HERE TO PAT CHAOS, CHAOS WILL BE PATTED, MY QUEST IS TO PAT CHAOS, CHAOS WON'T ESCAPE, I ONLY KNOW ONE THING, CHAOS, I LOVE CHAOS SO MUCH IT'S UNREAL, THIS IS THE TARTARUS OF CHAOS, SHE'S HERE, CHAOS IS A LOSER NERD WITH NO FRIENDS THAT DESERVES TO BE PATTED, CHAOS HEADPATTED MY NURUKO, CHAOS HEADPATTED MY WAIFU AND RECORDED IT, I WONT REST TILL CHAOS IS PATTED
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>>579416204
Fenoxo has no fucking clue how to physically structure a game's world, unfortunately.
This dude actually made like 3 text adventure whatever games, and the one without a goddamned map of any kind was the only one that wasn't torture to actually navigate in.
There's plenty one could opt to criticize or not in content, but I can't even be bothered to care next to the torture that is the slog of playing TITS or COC2.
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Bit of a shame I didn't get to rip apart the bunny personally, but technically ""I""" got to do it anyway so woohoo!
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>>579416654
i'm not that anon, I just think you should put more effort in your bait
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>>579417019
You're objectively correct and I ain't denying it. I just can't help but like the game because it has the kind of content no one else leans into
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>The bunny hood's gone,
Oh we're getting serious now.
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>>579417036
>telos
>does nothing
>dies offscreen
honestly their deaths make zero logical sense within the established system unless you just assume some kind of command override is supposed to be happening like what occurred to Adra at the start of this
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>>579417095
There is not bait, and mind you that you didn't even bother trying to argue the assessment, you just screeched impotently at accurate criticism.
While also projecting your ntr shit into it since your addled brain misread what I wrote.

The other guy at least made the weak defense that there's token management gameplay or something.
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>>579417249
Yeah I can kinda see the rushed bits now. Oh well.
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>>579417036
I mean those 2 were you just from different timelines for a second when i saw that cg i thought Worldbreaker raped and came on her cuz of the torn cape looking white as fuck for a solid minute there then i readjusted my eyes and determined i was tired I guess the bunny is making me really angry to the point where i thought Worldbreaker did that to her.
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>>579416654
How is that different from Jap RPG Maker Scene collectors?
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>>579417326
I mean it's not really token gameplay, there's a lot of it. I personally don't really agree with the criticism that linearity is inherently bad in an H game. Choice often comes with the downside of more inconsistent characterizations and such. If a game has ntr AT ALL I usually don't play it even if it's optional. So it's not like stuff like that matters to me
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>>579417326
can you not read I didn't make the post you were impotently seething at, you just sound like you're spazzing because 'muh gaijin' or w/e
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Oh boy.
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>>579417503
I want ntr in my games only if i get to turn the guy cucking me into a girl then fuck her and cheat on the girl that cheated on me like that one manga.
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>>579409651
I don't think that's her pregnant... I think something far worse is happening there.
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>>579417136
That's fine, but I've already given too many chances to a lot more renpy slop than I should have. I can at least get behind "has something I'm not finding elsewhere".
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>It's time for Luka's fusion!
>And not just a triple fusion, but an EVERY FUCKING LAST ONE OF US FUSION
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>>579417019
Fenoxo didn't direct Coc2, though. He directed the first one, left many of its plots unfinished and then called it complete after one last half-assed update.
CoC2 was directed by one of his RP friends. Fenoxo gave him the rights to use the CoC name probably cause he got an easy buck from it, but it's just using CoC as a skinsuit for its own barely-related thing.
CoC1 is better than TiTS, though, so probably Fenoxo wouldn't have done any better directing it.
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>>579417670
I mean coc2 isn't even a renpy game, it's its own weird rpg thing
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>>579417723
Hey i heard you Liked the guy from Disturbed
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>>579417723
on this monster girl quest, we truly are the paradox
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BEHOLD, THE DOMESTIC ABUSE OF CHAOS
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>>579417461
>How is that different from Jap RPG Maker Scene collectors?
I skip those too. Funny attempt at deflection though.
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>>579417896
Shota vs Loli what is stronger in terms of hentai.
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>>579417916
How was that deflection? I'm just saying its the same thing everywhere you go, RPGmaker for japs and Renpy for the West
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KINO
KINO
KINOOOOOOOO
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>>579417745
Misread the chain, thought you meant that one with the ripoff vamps.

>>579417734
Wasn't even criticizing the content or lack of story, I was literally just on "I can't imagine how anyone plays these two games with this awful fucking navigation". There could be great content, while I will now then criticize having to dodge a lot of gay and/or furry shit, but actually playing those things is such a miserable chore that you will be hard pressed to find much "good" content unless you happen to stumble into some gem near the start.
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While you were talking about whatever I was raped three times by a lamia.
Make it four, I was raped again while typing.
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>>579418072
AURAMAXING.

Prepare for another fucking jojo reference.
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Bit late to the party I see! I'm surprised sub illias is even alive
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>>579402352
From a pure meta perspective, Alice and Ilias are the best choices.
Apparently, you can decided to decide for later.

>>579402845
You poor sweet child.

>>579405872
And it was GLITCHED in 3.04!

>>579413596
>>579414093
It would have been better if Ilias fought Judgement and Alice Worldbreaker, but I guess we don't want Alice to feel bad.

>>579418072
Check his trait. Or rather, check what his skills, all of them, his stats, and if somethinng isn't weird.
You'll know.
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>>579418251
>Wasn't even criticizing the content or lack of story, I was literally just on "I can't imagine how anyone plays these two games with this awful fucking navigation". There could be great content, while I will now then criticize having to dodge a lot of gay and/or furry shit, but actually playing those things is such a miserable chore that you will be hard pressed to find much "good" content unless you happen to stumble into some gem near the start.
NTA but the navigation isn't even that bad. Its a lot better than CoC1 RNG and such, the navigation is like those old text based games
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>>579418071
$2 glorified gallery in rpg maker
vs
Patreonbux slow update scam that tries to act like it's a "real visual novel" despite paper thin content, lack of decisions, and hiding lack of creativity behind "humor"

You can equate them if you like, I was content to leave them both at skippable slop, but you really want to try to make those two things equal. Nah, a cheap one-and-done is very different and less offensive.
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The gang's all here!
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>>579414820
Use Promestein's Race changing to give him ALL the races, and get ALL the proofs. Then leave him as a dark goddess or something for maximal attack if that's what you're after.
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>>579418359
>It would have been better if Ilias fought Judgement and Alice Worldbreaker, but I guess we don't want Alice to feel bad.
very weird seethe
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>>579418528
What's funny is that it's really just playing around.
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>>579418429
>NTA but the navigation isn't even that bad. Its a lot better than CoC1 RNG and such, the navigation is like those old text based games
IS it better? Because aside from a few internal or wiki maps for the few dungeons, I'd RATHER deal with the RNG nonsense navigation than those fucking slow ass mazes of nondescript squares.
It's almost reinforcing your point about being like those old text games... because JUST having the text fight a RNG pool was less miserable than the squares.
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>>579418563
I could say we don't ant Ilias to to feel bad, but it's clear that trtr will pick any excuses to make Ilias feel bad, but not if it's hurting Alice, so...
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>>579415047
>Looks into this
>Somehow the Luka is one of the more alright looking things and that is Saying A FUCKING LOOOOOOT. The four bandits are fucking hideous.
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Copycat!
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>>579418704
I meant to say text based dungeon crawlers, but yes it is better, when you have bad luck like me, it takes literal hours sometimes to be able to unlock a place or event
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>>579418528
It's all our precious comrades!
...and the Six Ancestors.
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At least, you guys aren't defending Coc2
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>>579418876
It's so eyes to see her!
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Bit out of nowhere admittedly, but karmic retribution for ideas Lukas is cool!
>>579418884
Honestly can't really disagree there, the archangle sidequests were cuter
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>>579418909
I am and my endless fox children with my wife.
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>>579415047
>>579418871
I will now pevent you from unseeing that Luka looks exactly like Putin in a wig.
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Back to normal!
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>>579419218
"normal" is VERY subjective there
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>Chaos route title screen music starts playing
LETS GOOOOOOO
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>>579418768
She seemed like she felt pretty bad about the situation to me, she's upset at how he's trying to shoulder everything onto himself and always carry the burden alone and is mortified at what became of him. Ilias reacted very similarly in terms of how she feels, she just doesn't get tsundere at the very end. They both feel intense guilt and sadness at what's become of the Luka they're faced with and implore him to turn back and remember who he was. I don't think they'd react that differently if the positions were switched aside from possibly feeling even guiltier from seeing their own fusion and not the other one.

Honestly Judgement felt like the more tragic of the two to me but Judgement's easily my favorite between them so I might be biased in his favor. I liked both of their fights though, even if they aren't as hard as they used to be back in Part 2. The themes were peak as well.
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Oh. The decisive moment.
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>>579419095
You mean shitsuned
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>>579419107
Spoilered for your sanit. MY EYES. IT GETS WORSE EVERYTIME I LOOK AT IT THE PROFANED EYE OF EVERYTHING UNMAKING MY MIND DO NOT UNSPOILER OW.
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>>579419459
>pic
It's a stupid fucking thing to say, since it's basically what he has to do which they more or less seems to realize at a single point, AND Worldbreaker and Judgement aren't Luka, it's Luka/Alice and Luka/Ilias.
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>>579419661
mfw
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>>579419576
Nyo
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I'll check out the bad ending in a bit. But for now,No chaos, you weren't only meant to be the bad guy. Daddy just wanted to talk to you and you got a bit naughty
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>>579419218
She is sexier and prettier that way isn't she?

>>579419560
Hot take, this artist is the single best artist in the entire game and should have made everything.

>>579419805
She was a bit naughty, the white one though...
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>>579419805
The Evaluation is also a good one for your to-do list.
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>>579415903
mg1000 had some of the worst dialogue ever, how is it in this game?
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>>579419862
that artist wouldnt have as much aura if xelvy and setouchi didnt contrast him eventually his style would feel bland.
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You should've listened a little more, bratty little "omniscient" daughter of mine!
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>>579419967
Hey I actually really like modern setouchi though, he's grown a lot since the VN days
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>>579419862
that's a pretty hot take, and honestly a pretty bad one. a lot of the other artists are very imaginative and creative in their designs, so I can't imagine him really pulling everything off. His best stuff is the cutscenes with girls other people designed.
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I have the hottest take of the general. The game jumped the shark when it started getting about chaos
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>>579419983
Hey anon wanna see something cute and totally not at all devious?
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Aww. No Hild?
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>>579419862
>>579419967
>>579420064
The mixed bag of artists unironically is a big net credit overall to this series.
Chrome unironically wouldn't be as good without Un_Do.
Shikis being Shikis.
frfr's cute and squishies
etc
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>>579419696
They're still mostly treated as a new singular being who's just Luka at the helm. Her reaction is understandable, and it feels like one of the times where she's closest to the original Alice. Even if he did "have" to do it to save the day on those routes, that doesn't mean she or Ilias like it, especially when they're having to personally see him after he's lost his mind from countless years of isolation.
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>>579420064
He has but i am talking contrast specifically he wouldnt stand out as much you know. Like Xelvy draws horrifying shit. Setouchi draws weird stuff (cough black alice) and Nuppe i believe they were draws cool shit.
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Man. It's not really a complex moment, the boss fight wasn't even difficult. But I'm smiling. What a journey.
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>>579420206
Hild needs a vacation.
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>>579419805
>I'll check out the bad ending in a bit
there's not special cutscene if that's what you're hoping for, it's incredibly short and abrupt.
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>>579420348
it's kinda hard For her to be exactly like vn alice as she's stuck at early part 2 late part 1 due to the world not having her parent die from luka's dad when she was a kid on top of ilias' presence being far more diminished she has far less reason to develop as a person.
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>>579420361
Nuppe is a clear example that any design can work, it's the talent of the artist is most important.
He made the Ancestors and Archangels, and the dumb goddesses, look far cooler than their OG artists.
I still wouldnt change the hodgepodge of artist, for a single great one though.
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>>579420719
Yeah cuz part 3 would still be getting made and nuppe would be dying from overwork.
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>the dryfished towns are saved
woohoo!
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>>579420719
I actually do think the ancestors look fine in Shiki's style. It's just that 2013 shiki is a lot worse than current day shiki. I think the sweater pictures look great. People post his Hiruko art constantly because it looks good
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How nice of Luka! Giving a rookie some advice
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>>579420820
Chaos' castle request scene is the exact same as her loss scene btw. It implies some horrifying shit. But you may as well boot up the book and lose to her as the Evaluation is a Must see outright best one in the game. also if you dont prep luka enough the uh phase 2 of her when you fight her as luka alone is fucking awful some people have spent an hour wailing at her.
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>>579420423
Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it anon.
Personally I really liked her boss fight, but I was doing a challenge run (on top of a specific challenge for her because someone challenged me to do it that way), and she was more lengthy than difficult. But it was still really cool that way, it felt like a good ol Part 1 LOC boss and was really really engaging for me. What a time.
>>579420556
I know, it's perfectly understandable, I'm just saying that moment was one of the times where Paradox!Alice really did feel like the Alice I remembered from the VN, that's all.
>>579420947
>>579420361
I like most of the artists honestly, even if frfr's always going to be my favorite. Even back in the VN during the height of the same face syndrome, I still liked setouchi a bit for how varied and bizarre his designs were. Setouchi having improved so much over the years makes me happy. He's come a really long way.
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Hmmm. Doubtful but sure.
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>>579420165
That's a mid take actually.
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>>579421169
>frfr's always going to be my favorite. Even back in the VN during the height of the same face syndrome
frfr's early problems were less the faces and more so those fucking hands
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>>579421169
>I still liked setouchi a bit for how varied and bizarre his designs were.
I do think VN setouchi got kind of bad with "girl, on top of thing" as a monster girl like with Nanabi and Giganto Weapon
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>>579421056
>outright best one in the game
that's probably debatable but I haven't seen any of them so I wouldn't be able to say.
>Phase 2
really? I mean, my Luka is comically undertrained compared to everyone else's Luka here and I still obliterated her with the chain he gets in that form the first time I got there.
I did take three hours to beat her but that's entirely because of editing Luka out of the party removing his universal buff in the third phase, Chaos 2 took less than two minutes.
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>>579420348
He already "lost his mind" the moment he transformed and fused.
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>>579421315
How do you feel about Nanabi II?
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Yay! Happy ending for world drown
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>>579421178
Each of the apsotles are literally aspects of chaos' soul. Idea Lukas is the love of her dad and hero autism she inherited from him (it's why idea lukas is a good boy). Apiro is her Self preservation and resentment. Nefr is her fucking laziness she could have ended the world at any moment but no she had to wait months till her dad arrived. I have no idea what the other two are meant to represent one person did joke that ex sonya is her desire to be cucked which is kinda hillarious when put in context with the h-scene where you lose to deus ex machina.
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>>579419967
Here's another take. I don't like Xelvy. Setouchi is a hit or miss, but I like his arts, and sometime I don't.

>>579420224
>Shikis being Shikis
Being shit and samey?
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>>579421395
>that's probably debatable but I haven't seen any of them so I wouldn't be able to say.
Few evaluations are more than frfr Ilias for Parts 1+2, your respective Fat Alice or Sub-Ilias for split routes, and I never really did third route evaluations...
But there are some standouts, like the Adramelek evaluation at the end of Part 1.
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>>579421657
Neris' one is fucking hillarious btw.
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>>579421584
>he doesn't have purple hair
WHYY
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Well this spells it out if nothing will.
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>>579421807
"I wont interfere too much with the past" "anyways here's me making this specific fucking timeline where heinrich gets tentacle pussy."
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>>579421807
That's apparently a real life saying!

>>579421928
Luka? A hypocrite? Naah...
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>>579421627
Xelvy made you afraid to Lose it was fucking exhilarating. I guess part 3 makes you like that with some scenes considering trtr decided that for the second part 3 he needed to instead of adding yuri and reincarnation fetish like last time just add fucking guro in some places.
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Oho?
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>>579422084
Personally, it made me want to throw up. Including Sonya.
God I'm happy that Sonya got a new art.
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>>579422084
Yeah that one artist is a bit much, and I don't mean Kanon's gallery. Usuke or whatever.
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>>579421308
>his one weakness was hands
So that's it, isn't it.......the Harpies have flown around his limitations!
>>579421315
In some cases the taurs were a bit excessive I won't disagree, but Giganto Weapon was fine as a FF reference, and some of them were creative ones at least.
Also, for the record Nanabi was originally going to be even weirder and got toned down. The same goes for several of the girls who got in. Cassandra's concept sketch was particularly grotesque and looked like a zombified organ pile complete with an exposed brain.
>>579421657
Oh I misread the post and thought anon was talking about loss scenes, my bad.
I haven't seen any loss scenes, but I do remember Adramelek's evaluation ("Luka, what where you fighting?!" followed by Adra teleporting in to delete her) from the first time I played back in 2015 and it's definitely extremely memorable.
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Even the girls back at the administrator's tower!
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>>579421308
anon you cut off the sentence, he was saying that even when SETOUCHI was memetic for his samefaces, he still liked some of his stuff anyway
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>>579419919
Honestly, I only played 1 hour of the MG1000, because I found art to be a bit generic for my taste (might return at some point), but in that first hour, I remember there being a lot of exposition dialogue. What exactly made the dialogue bad? Just questioning.
When it comes to MG Tavern, I found the dialogue to be enjoyable. There are no annoying quips, and I got invested in a lot of conversations.
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>I am chaos, and you are
>picrel
Peak. Absolute peak. It's not a perfect ending, story or game. Maybe not even a good one. World building's fucked beyond belief, deus ex machina literally everywhere, but I have too much emotional investment to not give a happy end a 10/10. nearly 300 hours well spent.
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>>579422302
>his one weakness was hands
>So that's it, isn't it.......the Harpies have flown around his limitations!
I didn't say one weakness, but I did say it was the worst element, by a lot.
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>>579422568
Honestly the world building is fine, it's only (metaphorically) screwed in the merger.
But I like it too, it's truly one of a kind.
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>>579422568
It was just one of the random alt worlds we visited, but the Admin Tower definitely set the tone and mood for these games, so I'm glad it got the ending shot.
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>>579421795
They are a RPGmaker asset.
A rarely used one, but it shows up from time to time in Paradox.
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>>579422194
GOD I FORGOT TO CLICK SPOILER anyways here's a funny setouchi comic thats spoilers for people who havent beaten part 3. but it relates to this moment.
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Cute.
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>>579422568
>>579422937
Enjoy speaking to each and every one of... I think it was 180ish characters.
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>>579422937
Is being a god in mgq verse just gonna make you a foodie?
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And now, God is on my side!
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>>579423139
Remember what anons were saying about uh racemaking.. have a look at chaos' race. and trait. FUCKING azathoth loli.
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>>579422568
Well Luka, it truly has been a Monster Girl Quest RPG Paradox Part 3.

>only 300
weak

>>579423139
Look at her traits, her gear, and her skills, and despair. You are like a little child!
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Well, now that anon's all finished up, I'm playing through the second half of the collaboration event so I'll pick up where I left off now-
>>579414802
-Somebody pick up the phone BECAUSE I FUCKING CALLED IT
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>>579417723
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>>579423426
What the fuck is a Silver Oni?
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>>579423426
It kind of lose it's coolness when you realize that most of them fucking lost or died.

Luka is all of Luka I guess tho!
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>>579422568
There is a bit of postgame exploration you can do to get a few new jobs unlocked and a new tournament tier in the arena that gets you a broken ass item.

At some point in chaos route there is also a final race only tier challenge thingy in the arena you can do harpy anon did it with their birds and got reina a wedding ring from it iirc.

Also take Chaos to the lazy bum eva's tent you'll get some funny cutscenes out of it.
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>>579423426
>>579423606
In that pile of Lukas, there is a female Luka who is my wife
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>>579423590
Maledom scene lmao.
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who makes a good gadabout
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>>579421501
I can imagine a life together with this over achieving fox.
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>>579423771
So she lost?
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Ayo!? Look who it is!?
>Luka, using Chaos' power, becomes his OWN EVALUATOR
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>>579423940
Yes, but I won and we are happy
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>>579423859
Just ignoring it and using girls who are recruited with it mastered.
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>>579424016
How boring, I lost and I am now seething at your happiness!
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>>579424012
The you from the good ending bails you out essentially the downside is canonically Chaos has raped everyone here to nonexistence at least once if this evaluation is canon.
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>>579424102
But now she's gone to fuse with the omni Luka and the others so I am a widower
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>>579423393
Did we get any back story about her? Like what the world she came from us like, why she is evil, and why she likes big brother so much?
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>>579423859
Reina!
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>>579424214
Don't they stay the same as they are afterward for a value of afterward?
Does this make Luka a tranny?
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>>579424342
Gula is just a big fan of 1984, you know
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>>579424012
Isn't that Chaos controling Luka?

>>579424137
>canonically Chaos has raped everyone here to nonexistence at least once if this evaluation is canon.
Thanks, I hate it.
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>>579424370
>Don't they stay the same as they are afterward for a value of afterward?
I don't know?

>Does this make Luka a tranny?
No?
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Oh wow. Definitely a "you beat the game" character.
>Isn't that Chaos controling Luka?
Nothing implies that no. It's Luka and Chaos warping through space and time to fix everything
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>>579424517
The child is an omnicidal rapist and has raped everyone. Everyone needs to be ain a i got touched by chaos council except because of shenanigans this could be argued to be masturbation because chaos as a concept is autistic as fuck.
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>>579424742
You haven't seen GCBA and FoC.

>>579424902
Thanks, I hate it again.
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>>579425047
She hates you too pal and all of existence.
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>>579424342
>>579424449
This is story 5/7, so I haven't finished it yet.

However while the first two aren't currently answered, her explanation of what she was doing coincides with what paradox implies: she's just a machine who's programming by necessity (since Star Eater would require this) includes her doing literally anything possible in order to survive and complete her directive, and she analyzed Luka's data for weaknesses right before she started to call him that. It's her trying to prey on Luka's emotions to manipulate him into either willingly submitting to her or disrupting his state of mind so he can't fight as efficiently. Her attempt to guilt trip him after the fight before the AI breaks down is her final attempt to survive once she realizes her self-repair protocol can no longer keep up with the damage and they are actually going to kill her.

>>579424137
>>579424517
there's no proof it's canon tbf just dodge it bro
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>>579425351
This is the only horror based thing she gets besides the rabbit that isnt technically all of her please dont take it away from me.
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>>579424356
oh I literally just got to the part where she's introduced
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>>579425351
I will dodge this, thank you!

>>579425473
If she is like that, that make Luka trying killing her an almost good thing.
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>>579425741
He is half of her anyways. I just want the god of chaos loli to be scary man.. probably a personal bias thing but everything leading up to in terms of chaos related stuff was spooky and the final boss of monster girl quest is a human girl with the ability to warp reality and all they do in thier scene is handhold+cowgirl and say they are implying they are doing it to everyone else. Which is in their capabilities but god damn it.. apoptosis havent been the same at all since Xelvy either left or died.
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>>579426007
I think im just projecting my miss of Xelvy onto her..
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>>579426007
>>579426182
I feel for you. I don't like xelvy's arts, but I feel for you anyways.
Ultra dick move for him to go away.
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>>579426007
I still think her current scene doesnt fit her character much. Especially after the ending that part is certain even factoring that out..
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>>579426482
Only part i do agree on with her being the quickest Luka ever nuts tho she outdoes the succubus prison trio in terms of lines iirc she can override biological imperative, warp reality or change herself to literally just cause cum via contact.
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>>579426007
>He is half of her anyway
nta but you're forgetting they're both tapping into the power of the 'will/root/force/etc of chaos' at the end, and that she was created to usurp control over it in the hopes she could reverse it from destruction back to a balanced state. It's less Luka is half of Chaos and more that the will of chaos is now half of both FOC and DOC, and through the will and it's powers, they are connected.
And Hild just gets a participation trophy I guess.

>>579426289
Either his sister died or he did, I feel nothing but bad for the guy. Hope he's alright.
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>>579390398
I can interact with the crystal normally, and when I check the translated map file it doesn't seem to be broken (so i'm guessing it's a broken script instead).
It's just that specific event that's broken. All the other surrounding events (her teleporting you if you try to walk past, the fox statue saying you gotta talk to her "arse", etc. All others work properly, sans the specific interaction with fulbeua to start her fight.
I installed the cheese and tried to manually trigger the fight, but it doesn't work. The fight completes, but the event never starts, and i don't know what's the event code to start it, since the file says common event 002.
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I am here to kill chaos
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>>579427552
I am here to have chaos kill me.
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>>579425609
based, enjoy anon
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>>579427552
I am here to Chaos.
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I'm going to Chaos.
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>>579427652
I wasn't expecting this game to crib so much from dragon quest. Makes me feel bad for not finishing the two DQ games I already started
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>>579428301
You better have played final fantasy and Disgaea then. Oh also smt no not the spinoff that somehow is more popular than the main series.
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>>579428301
Dragon Quest is constantly referenced in just about any type of jrpg parody anywhere. To the point where i'm kind of exhausted of it because it really feels like outside of paradox basically no one references anything but dragon quest and MAYBE rance
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>>579424742
I really wanted to see a Randomizer for this game once Part 3 was out, but once you get something like this even if lowered to level 1 it would just invalidate the game.
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>>579428534
"oh look i caught god on my randomizer in pokemon."

all you need is good rng anon.
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>>579428301
To be fair, it was named after it. I've never played a single DQ game, but from what I understand it takes a lot from the third one in addition to FF and Disgaea and an assortment of other references.
Still, save the harpies and enjoy anon! Reina's the best!
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>>579428534
She's gotten as an event after defeating her as the final boss if a randomizer worked the way it would be normally you'd randomizer random recruits stuff that you can talk to and recruit as stuff from events is kinda way less balanced..
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>>579428395
I've played plenty of all of those JRPGs unironically.

>>579428471
Yeah but MGQP just straight up takes items, classes, and skills from DQ. I just noticed gadabout has puff puff.
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>>579429152
It's not just DQ, there's also FF.
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>>579429152
You'll see some disgaea and smt references for attacks here and there.
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>>579428769
That sounds more fair but it would also be fun to see how someone like Metatronne in the party at level 1 or even how much weaker would most of the Part 3 party be with level 1 status.
Still I can't refuse that being better design because it basically keeps you from softlocking in the Luka only sections if we keep those, and lets you use Raphaela in the Cosmos and Lagos fights instead of needing to grind if she got replaced.
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One more question, will Rami be a good party member for a long time?
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>>579430421
I'm so sorry little one.
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>>579417634
Tag says otherwise: https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=15966545
>>579414506
You mean this?
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>>579430534
oh well there's like a bajillion characters anyways
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>>579430421
Characters with +stats are good the whole game and are only really powercrept by Part 3. Granted you need to be using the imp trio the whole game or otherwise Rami is a normal part 1 party member.
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>>579430605
Nothing stops you from doing it anyways. Don't keep me or anyone from wanting to use your favorite character.
But objectively... I can't lie to you.
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>>579425351
Singularity made her hideout in the Monster Girl Comiket
>Vivi's outraged, because 'they're making it bigger without her permission!'
>The Monster Girls are now also brainwashed, and Lulu the Carbuncle is massively OOC
>Luka demands to know why he's doing this to Master when he's done nothing to her
>Black Alice reveals that it's not actually "brainwashing", and what she's doing is a lesser form
>Utilizing radio waves, she's hypnotizing the beings around her to regress into delusions in order for her to control them and direct them to her own will
>Poachers were reduced to a frothing mess screaming about profits and money and the Monsters are more or less animals
>But how could she control the Monster Girls?!
>.........
>Vivi doesn't want to answer her
>Protagonist muses that while a couple of them are normally very rational girls who are being driven crazy, most of them were already like this in the first place and it's just the "to death/without care" part that's not normally there
>Singularity answers for them instead
>Organic thought processes are complicated and brainwashing is difficult, but by simply directing their desires via compulsion, she can "steer them in a simulated way"
>95% of the Monster Girls on this island are so unbelievably stupid and honest with their desires that THEY'RE EASIER TO CONTROL THAN MACHINES
>"As a mechanical being, I shouldn't have this kind of thought circuit, but they're so much easier to manipulate compared to a machine that it almost makes me worry."
>Vivi and Master don't even know how to comprehend her pity
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>>579430601
It looked like she got tentacles penetrating her intestines, not pregnancy but meh.
Now let us talk about why Micaela is so perfect.
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>>579430801
There are characters I liked more from the original game that I remember from the OG games. Rami's just been a fun character so far. I can see why she's kinda popular.
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>>579430802
>"If it makes you feel any better there's Monster Girls in our world who will try to rape Luka mid-combat"
>'W-well, there's good points too.....they'll only be after Master'
>Alice feels reassured that at least none of them will be going after Luka
>"IF I GET CAUGHT BY THEM IN THAT STATE THEY WON'T EVEN LEAVE MY BONES BEHIND! IT'S NOT REASSURING AT ALL!!"
>Singularity admits her method is 'primitive' but functional and doesn't require a pre-existing technological device that can do it for her
>Alright first come first served for the boy go kill everyone who gets in your way

>Everyone jumps and is eager to fight
>Master and Vivi hope that they're just normally like that and it's not the island's influence
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>Welcome back
>Dear
>Sharing
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I tried switching from mtl to llm to increase the accuracy and it seems to have worked well apart from in about 2-3 places. However I have been having awful issues with obsstudio not picking up my hotkeys this time so I've watched this scene about 10 times now.

Scene 5 from the MMTD collab
https://files.catbox.moe/0y8kq2.mp4
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>>579430601
Poor Saja.
The violent angel wont rape and impregnate her. Doesnt Michaela know how this works? It's lose and get raped, not lose and get mutilated.
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>>579430802
>>579431967
>She also hijacked the pilot drone copters from the magical battle ship and the magic empire machine defenses
that's pretty cool ngl
>The hypontized monster girls are beaten back and fall unconcious
>Kuromi suddenly remerges shaking violently with an even more deranged expression on her face
>Alice immediately rushes over and smashes her over the head
>"Oh dear, they lost."
>They're furious at Singularity but Alice demands her to explain why she's dancing around the question of her origins
>Her and Black Alice were absolutely certain that Singularity was destroyed, and there's no way even one of the Sixteen Calamities could've survived that
>Singularity: "Hehe, that's right~"
>"To be precise, I'm not the singularity you know. To put it simply— I'm a singularity from a parallel world, perhaps?"
>"After the Singularity was defeated, it transmitted combat data."
>"Upon receiving that data, I became a new Singularity. And I came to this other world to defeat you all."
>'She sent data to a singularity in a parallel world...? That would never end...!'
>"Hehehe, that's right. Even if I am destroyed, the next me will come after you in a different way. You can never escape from me, understand big bro?"
>"But don't be afraid? I just want to become one with big bro and the others."
>"Big bro, the young boy, and both of your companions too—I will assimilate all of you into one Then we can coexist.... and be happy together, right?"

Oh my God she's Kagetsumi on crack down to the endless backups and completely unfettered determination to continue her programming, that actually makes her even more terrifying
and they revealed this about her in the comedy game
the parallel was already there in the original but this really drives it home
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>>579434802
Sometimes you wonder just how Luka is going to "save" these violent goobers.
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>>579436174
Plot convenience and the stars aligning.
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>>579436240
The little sister seemed like such a easy fix, and might still be in comparison to the others. But she is still a evil monster.
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>>579434802
>Luka: You're wrong, Singularity. That isn't happiness! Assimilation is not coexistence!
>Luka: Even if it was practice for controlling living things, you stood on stage to make everyone smile as an idol- someone like you now should surely understand!!
>Mini: That's right! The Singularity that used to be an idol was so full of life!
>Gula: ....It's fine, there's no need to resist. After all, everyone, everyone, everyone....!
>Singularity: I WILL CONSUME EVERYTHING........!!
>The floor gives way as her REAL body starts to come out
>She teleports them to the moon base, laughing manically
>The quest description has her mocking Luka, congratulating him on defeating 'that me', "but alas, even if you manage to defeat this me, another me will only come after you" and that he can't run away from her.
>Finally seeing them Vivi's pretty terrified and the threat's made really clear
>Mini thinks her true form looks cool, like a giant concert set
>Singularity says she will get to her all her songs endlessly once assimilated
>Alice will fight for her friends
>And for all the delicious gourmet food here
>Ilias tries to hastily deny she's fighting for the food, but Lucifina doesn't care because it's better than trying to ingrain her religion here
>Singularity chides them for having the nerve to act so relaxed when she's right there

>Fight
>Deploy Kraken
>Deploy Crab
>Smash Robot
>Dies before I can even really deploy anything else
It's ok Singularity I'm sure the challenge mode version of you will put up more of a fight. And I still have a good respect for your original battle anyway.
As an aside recreating her boss arena for this was a nice touch
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>>579421618
Adra is her robot like nature as the universe ultimate authority. The one who goes and does the job, alongside a little arrogance for being the strongest.
Sonya is her doubts about her nature and purpose as she was created to be defeated.
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>>579421618
I'd view Telos as Apathy or Nihilism rather than Laziness. The other two are her duty and purpose and her desperation to 'exist' and not just be something that's discarded.
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>>579438291
>Monster Girls from across both Worlds joins forces to bring down 1/16
>Once again, in the face of defeat her AI begins to spiral as she BSOD's
>"Even though I was enhanced to greater understand living things......! Why am I, why do I, error, why?!"
>Luka approaches
>"Singularity.... no, Gula. You're certainly strong. If I had let my guard down, I would have lost.... but for some reason, I didn't feel as afraid of you as I did when we fought before."
>Singularity is confused
>Mini: "Hey....don't you actually not want to fight us...? You were so lively when you were an idol... I want to see more of your stage performances too...!"
>Error, error.....Senior Mini...!

>Alice asks what Luka will do, and if he'll destroy her.
>Luka will not.
>She pretended to join them before, how about she does it for real this time?
>Singularity can't understand why
>But Luka says that now that she's learned more about biology, and has experienced what it feels like to actually be liked by someone rather than just forcibly assimilate them, he's sure that she'll be alright
>............hopefully.
>Lucifina points out he should be more decisive
>She's countered by being reminded that destroying Singulairty just causes her to send her program across dimensions and she'll endlessly hop into back up bodies otherwise
>Ilias: "I don't know if Luka thought that far ahead though.......there are risks, but it's probably the best option for now"
>Lucifina comments that Ilias really has changed
>Singularity just can't believe it
>"I.....I........."
>She reaches to take Luka's hand-
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>>579440667
Mimi... so big...
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>>579419095
>>579419730
>Are you Jew/Kitsune?
>Yes
it's always the jewsunes
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>>579440667
>SO, YOU ACTUALLY BRAINWASHED US HUH?!
>IT'S PUNISHMENT TIIIIIIME! Here we go, Lupupu!
>We're going to teach you just how harsh a strict hierarchy can be!
>Lupupu and Tantal rush her down
>Lulu doesn't want to but thinks she's not allowed to stop them because she's not the senior here
>Kuromi actually liked being brainwashed and wants Singulairty to "mess up her mind even more" so the sense of despair when she comes back is even greater Kuromi what the fuck is wrong with you
>They all pin her down
>Parindava, unaware of what they're doing, jumps on top too
>"Wha— hug— ughhh!? Co-, is this the potential of living things...!? Gack—!"
>Singularity is completely crushed under their weight and falls unconcious
>the most anticlimactic outcome possible, which left everyone with anticlimactic expressions on their faces

kek
honestly she's lucky, knowing what those two were going to do to her
the last bad guy who got knocked out in their vicinity had them cursing her with a horrible (sex) dream, she better thank her stars that she's not wetware like AW tech
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>>579440985
I can't help it, if a monster/girl/monster girl offers me her womb to impregnate, how can I say no?
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>>579441986
>Get back to the surface
>Master remembers Luka's original problem wasn't solved
>"o-oh yeah, that's right haha"
>why are you so hesitant
>DON'T TELL ME-
>Alice rushes over and immediately feels the spot
>The triumphant return of the hero
>She's literally trembling with rage
>After ALL THAT, you got turned on by watching those girls crowd around her and push her around?!
>Luka's sweating bullets
>"N-no! Listen to me! I don't know what's going on either...!!"
>Black Alice realizes that the actual reason was due to a side effect of Singularity's radio waves and her attempts to hypnotize Luka not working; the moment the emissions stopped his body was cured
>But Black Alice refuses to say anything and decides to just watch Luka suffer, because she's Black Alice, and she thinks his suffering is hilarious, what did you expect?
>Luka is chastised for wasting all their efforts getting food from the island so they just force him to eat everything they found anyway
>Eventually this escalates into an eating contest between the two
>But they end up sleeping well after they fall unconscious so it's ok

The lesson I have learned today is that Singularity was even worse and far more dangerous and even if she's the weakest Calamity she's still a nightmare scenario that will continuously find ways to get worse, and can also keep cheating death. She just doesn't have an easy way to get back once she was kicked out, and that's why she decided to camp out the Island and bide her time until they showed up instead.
And I have no idea how they're going to fix her because there's no way she's getting the backup body from an Idol universe to use as a disguise that the story revolved around. You'd have to chaos snatch her code mid-transmission to prevent her from sending the signal in the first place. I guess it's probably going to be that, and then Luka having her reprogrammed or something.
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>>579444036
...That's a weird finale.
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which monster girl has the largest penis
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>>579391518
here
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>>579436650
>The little sister seemed like such a easy fix
Honestly this changed my mind, at least for the Paradox one. Ironically, (former)VN!Luka seems like he'll have a far easier time because he found a way to try to appeal to what the original one didn't have in the first place: people who actually liked her, and believed they were her friends while she was lying low, and her trying to understand emotions better in order to improve her capabilities. He actually found a scenario where he could potentially get her to at least change her behavior within her currently established mission parameters.

I do not see this happening at all for the actual NG++, there's gonna be some serious chaos required there. Unless trtr really does pull out the backup body drive from the random idol themed universe and she returns piloting that, because it would be hysterical if this really is what happens
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>>579441986
How exactly does a machine fall unconscious?

I get the answer is "comedy", yet I still can't stop thinking about it.
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>>579445545
The computer freezes for a long time.
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>>579445545
Comedy.
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>>579444526
Well, it is a comedy after all. The crossovers with Luka are the most serious that this narrative ever gets, bar a few moments here or there. 95% of their world's population are complete morons, and on top of that the human girls are also extremely autistic and there's even three who are obsessed with trains.

It was just nice to get to see Mini's reaction to Singularity since I didn't get to have her for that fight. As an aside I would not be surprised if they break the Calamities out for easy monster-girl-of-the-week shenanigans in any future event. Or at least some of them. The AOC wouldn't make much sense, and the strongest Monster Girls in this world are comparable in their power to Alice and the 4HK from the original world, so anything too high up on the scaling list would be hard to believe unless they're finding a way to just drive it off instead.

>>579445545
If you apply enough pressure on your computer or a piece of hardware for long enough eventually it's gonna stop working.
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>>579444587
Cute. Now draw my wife please

>>579445545
She blue screened
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>>579446391
>If you apply enough pressure on your computer or a piece of hardware for long enough eventually it's gonna stop working.

Well sure, but that's breaking something, whilst being made unconscious is something you (in fiction at least) recover from. I get I'm being a pedant and that the world just works like "sufficient trauma can knock someone out, even if that person is a robot", but my autism for some reason can't help but fixate on "being made unconscious, like a regular person would be" in contrast to "shut down, needs rebooting".

>anything too high up on the scaling list would be hard to believe unless they're finding a way to just drive it off instead.

Well, consider that Singularity is a friend now. And as a unit, is super strong. Clearly, they can just scale up the threat by recruiting each one after it's beaten, thus increasing the strength of the team and thus what it can face.
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>>579448013
>my autism for some reason can't help but fixate on "being made unconscious, like a regular person would be" in contrast to "shut down, needs rebooting"
I think you're focusing too much on the wording is all. From the context, she was crushed under so many monster girls that her systems failed and she shut off. Functionally, with regards to a robot, having a bit of hardware damaged and shutting off as a result is the closest equivalent of being knocked unconscious.

Also I forgot that Luka and Alice clarified their world has been undergoing a training montage, and Master's world has also been routinely training the monster girls (and having monster girls who train until they evolve) too, so they could probably find a way with that and friendship. It helps that they're running everything through a death gauntlet.
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>>579447289
>Now draw my wife please
sure
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>>579450787
AIIIEEEE she's not that bad, I would ask Prom to fix her but she would probably leave me the moment she turns into a normal lamia
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>>579448951
>I think you're focusing too much on the wording is all. From the context, she was crushed under so many monster girls that her systems failed and she shut off. Functionally, with regards to a robot, having a bit of hardware damaged and shutting off as a result is the closest equivalent of being knocked unconscious.

I suppose that's fair enough.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVaU5-zgza0
/mggg/ bros...
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>>579451909
can't be worse than what happened to port natalia
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>>579448951
You DO realize that she is a super machine, right? No, even super machine is downplaying it.
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>>579453454
She's still a machine anon.
Also they destroyed the weapons platform so she isn't plugged into all the high-tech super powerful upgrade and defensive systems that she has in her boss fight. Even the original Singularity noted her self-repair function isn't perfect or endlessly capable of self-maintenance (else you wouldn't be able to beat her in the first place without chaosing her), and this takes place after she was defeated and her AI is in the middle of a breakdown like her original defeat.
They basically crushed her until she shut off.
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>>579454171
Understandable! Thank you for your time.
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>>579444584
Tommamo sadly enough
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>>579446391
I think the Calamities really are the logical step in MGQ collaborations. The only thing that can top them are the Apostles, but I just don't see them being used at the moment since they signal Chaos' arrival.
All 16 being used is probably unrealistic, since that is a lot of collabs, not to mention some of them are really iffy in the design department. But considering the comedic nature of MMTD, any of them really can be used without bringing in a horror show like Echidna did.
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>>579430601
Anybody can edit tags in that god forsaken website, fags will post the most obvious vore art and slap the pregnancy tag to avoid their shit getting filtered
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And here is the last scene 6 and 7 of the collab, for that one who wanted to watch it.
https://files.catbox.moe/ehzohz.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/k1jnji.mp4
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>>579456860
I don't know, I was expecting a remix of the Calamity theme. I know it's free use music, but it just seemed like it could have been appropriate considering the final fight.
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>>579444036
I'm honestly a little surprised that as soon as she noticed Luka was cured she didn't immediately drag him off to plap him into a stupor
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The Catastrophes are for Lazarus.
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>>579458926
Your missing two of them.
The No Life King and World Drown.
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>>579458926
Echidna and Angolmois lines aren't finished.
Also it's funny that the Koron line implies that Luka's life is completely fine against any other of the catastrophes.
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>https://files.catbox.moe/4il4gk.mp4
>Multiple different animations to show off her personality
>Really cool mechanics
>Capable of very high damage very quickly
>Her second phase will start to firebomb the entire arena with missiles when near death which will rapidly kill everyone who isn't extremely durable with a level of damage reduction
>None of this matters, because she's so comically understated (less than half the health of Sonya!Chaos and even with her railgun and laser cannon absorbing damage for her she has less health than Black Alice's True Form) that you have to be actively holding back and dragging the fight out to see almost any of the effort they put into her
>She's actually easier than the above two, even

Wow, this really IS just like Paradox's Third Route!
I even fought her with just four girls for this; it was more fun that way at least. Anyway, I figured I'd share the fight for the people who want to see all the stuff she does, since in normal gameplay this lasts thirty seconds or less.
Also I realized while doing the third challenge stage that the area is actually a 1:1 recreation of one of the intersections on the Moon Base, it's honestly really neat how much detail they put into her.

>>579456342
It'd be cool to see where they go from here; maybe World Drown will show up eventually after all. Hopefully she doesn't get gated if she does, though.
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>>579458843
I think the idea that he might've secretly been a yurifag genuinely offended her kek
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>>579458926
I'd say Koron would be the best choice for the sheer irony of Lazarus plapping the embodiment of everything his VN self disliked about monsters.
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>>579461365
well he did peak on Granberia vs Alma and thought it was amazing
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>>579444036
I would argue that the weakest of the Calamities is the NLK. Her entire deal of being a true undead is the only threat, as even her chaos death virus was stopped by some good old fashion medicine bombs. Singularity has weapons that can turn the planet into a donut, something I just don't see the undead sister measuring up to.
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>>579462409
honestly that's fair, I'd have to agree.
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>>579462409
I feel like a big thing that hypes up Singularity is that she also takes control of Zion and the twins. NLK however has nothing in the story that I know preventing Tamamo from killing her just like she kills Sariela since they're basically the same.
Raphaela spawn camping Cosmos in the other route just makes the weakest of the bunch look like they're not supposed to be stronger than Archangels imo or at least not by that much
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What's the best way to farm small medals in Paradox? Found an old reddit post that basically said to use an oracle skill at the dummy... but no small medals yet.
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>>579463294
That's the best way to farm them early, if you're trying to get the Archangel Bra way before you're intended to have it. Otherwise Mimic Island is the best place to get them.
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>>579463416
Literally after this post I realized I was using the wrong skill. Was playing slots when I should have been using "Oracle of the Goddess".

part 3 trying to buy up medal king stock
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>>579463294
Mimic farming. Stealing from Pandora's and trading big medals for small medals.
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>>579461012
>She's actually really easy as a boss.

So, as a boss she's underpowered, but overpowered as a playable unit (At least, I've heard she's overpowered as a unit)? Go figure. Could probably make some sort of commentary about that. The cliche option is something about the power of friendship, the funnier thing is to say she's stronger without all that extra stuff, because she's cuter without it, and cuteness is strength.
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>>579462009
>Luka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvLoUeg1Q8I
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>>579463567
Large medals you’re better off stealing from Green magic pots
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>>579464248
I dont like this art because Granberia doesn't even look like she's resisting like the dialogue suggests,she's got a blush but a serious look on her face, like she's planning on trying to resist the pleasure rather than try to resist physically.
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>>579462409
Meanwhile Angois is just a filthy jobber that kill things slowly.
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>>579463230
Remember, AW Cosmos did not absorb anywhere near the amount of chaos corruption she did in the final route. She was turning everything within a mile radius into mutant abominations by the sheer amount of energy she was releasing.
But I still hold the belief that the NLK is the weakest, just because she was killed without problem in the first fight.
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>>579465018
I wasn't trying to argue that she was weaker than the other or even counting the AW version as a real calamity. It just felt like she was dealt with so casually before that even the upgraded version isn't on the level of Archangels.
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>>579465018
The real weakest is the space STD. She was the easiest to deal with, and would have been terminated in moments if they followed Ilias' method. The hero team made things harder on themselves.
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>>579463935
Her non-boss opponent form (who's also in that fight) is even weaker, she can't even fire the laser most of the time. Still, she IS capable of hitting very hard at least, the recording does show that. She just isn't durable enough to usually showcase what she can do unless you're using a bunch of tanks focused on durability over firepower.
>I've heard she's overpowered
yeah I tried her out with a rental and that's putting it lightly. I described her before as "Okyuu+Lulu+The Idol Duo" and it's incredibly apt. She's ridiculous.
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>>579467621
>yeah I tried her out with a rental and that's putting it lightly. I described her before as "Okyuu+Lulu+The Idol Duo" and it's incredibly apt. She's ridiculous.

So, something something power of friendship, given what you said about being weak as an opponent.

Kinda funny how that's the opposite to most JRPGs where you often have characters way weaker as party members than as opponents. I know TD isn't a JRPG, but you get the point I'm making.
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>>579468035
It's more the power of her anti-giant-cannon when she actually gets to fire that thing; her boss equivalent will kill pretty much any non-overhealed character unless they have massive amounts of health or the "good luck I'm behind seven 50% DR Kraken Tentacles" special. The only reason the other two didn't die from it was because Okyuu and Aqua bodyblocked the lasers for them.
She also doesn't have the incredibly high-damage fire patches the boss has; if the playable version of her had access to the carpet-bombing missiles, she'd easily be the strongest DPS in the game.

I'd call it even with her, honestly. It's less the boss being weaker and more "The boss is now playable" and you get to have the hilariously overpowered cannon and can work around the "needs to be alive to fire it" thing by chucking her into the backrow so she has time to charge it up.
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>>579456342
Chaos can be used for Amazing comedy if she somehow gets into TD as this fucking horrifying reality warping entity probably closest thing to GOD as in literal god controls all of existence is a fucking child/baby and wants pancakes from her dad and grandpa.
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>>579469686
>>579468035
Actually no I have an even better way to describe her
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lol
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>>579471374
>NTwhoRe
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is bunny-chan worse than reina?
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>>579471761
yes
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>>579471761
Use whoever you want it just requires a bit more grinding if you want to make them viable as everyone is viable if you do enough to give them more power.
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>>579472014
I'm just kinda asking cause it doesn't matter too much at this point. I'm not expecting to see the ride or die characters I liked from the OG trilogy for hours.
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>>579472125
she was ride or die for me........
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>>579472125
If its the queens yeah you wont see em for a bit.
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>>579472218
I guess for the current characters I have the one I want to keep around is Vanilla.
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>>579474703
Four bandits goated. Iirc they get stronger with their buddies in the party. ontop of just having them being cool.
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>>579456342
I mean, maybe not the apostle versions but Luka's imaginary friend and the anti-social egg lover have shown up before as enemies, iirc, so I could see them coming up with some excuse to make them playable. As for Calamities, yeah, I doubt the bigger freakshows would show up and the same would also probably go for calamities that are basically alternative timeline counterparts of other characters, so, no legally distinct Warring Triad or No Life King.
The most likely candidates are Grandma Gran, Know-it-all, "Hard" Sci-Fi Birb, and Coldsteel the Gecko.
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>>579477756
anon there's a guy who hasn't even left the first continent yet you could spoil that at least
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>>579477756
Considering how the inhabitants of the island kind of end up being a big problem onto themselves, I can see 7SD doing her work on them, and having the biggest idiots being her pillars. I also can see Echidna funny enough too, because when she starts doing her thing, everyone will be getting flashbacks of another event where a horny virus infected everyone.
You can say the same thing about TAKO, but the opposite of the dumb dumbs, since her Walpurgis Ritual which is supposed to gather the most accomplished and smartest peeps when it comes to magic knowledge.
In all honesty, those who manipulate others will have a easier time being added since they kind write the story themselves.
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>>579477756
Sonya, maybe, but definitely not Adra.
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>>579483097
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>>579461012
>put the boss theme over the fight
based
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>>579483097
For me, it's bicorns
https://midnightgirlsr.wikiru.jp/?双角のシャイン
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You don't want monster pussy.
What's the fun in cumming seconds after insertion?
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>>579486363
You think it's over after cumming? the ride has only just begun.
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>>579486363
It never ends after cumming.
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>>579486363
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I can't choose between the two Kitsune generics...
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>>579490621
then have both
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>>579490621
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>>579491936
I'm too low on space for both... pain
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AIEEE MOM WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
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>>579491936
>>579492069
Actually I cut one of two healers and I'll try using Vanilla as a healer more. Fug.
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>>579493083
Just give Luka a few jobs here and there if he's maxed out on one so you can train another.
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>>579493083
Vanilla is alright if you're using her to patch up people after encounters, in the early game healers tend to run dry pretty quick and you should have the gold to spare.
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>>579492417
The most sane plant girl.
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>>579492848
Mom is a bitch.
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latexmamo need it or keep it?
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>>579497892
To be a little fair it's Luka's fault for not making either Alice, Sonya or Hild officially his, Alice thinks she's got fair claim because of Nero and Neris, Sonya thinks she's got fair claim because she's known Luka the longest, Hild really has the highest claim, Luka created her for all of this and impregnated her, by southern law his obligated to marry her least he make his child a bastard.

In Texas the law would appoint Hild as his lawful wife, Sonya and Alice are considered cuckqueens by the fandom anyway they can bond over their
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>>579498427
But Texas is a shitty country, so it doesn't count.

>Illias not mentioned
>Coco not mentioned
>Remina not mentioned
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>>579498427
Machines aren't recognized as a real person in Texas. You can't marry your smart phone or your car there. Hild marriage would never get approved.
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>>579478027
No, fuck him, fuck you, fuck this shit. I'm done with the spoilers. Like for fuck sake it's not even that new.
>>579478569
I mean, I thought about 7DS, but... have you seen how SHE looks like? Doubt they would want it. Echidna is also probably too niche of a fetish.
>>579481942
>definitely not Adra.
Why not? She's a cutie when she isn't trying to succ everyone dry or destroy the universe.
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>>579498648
Iiias is his grandmother
Who the fuck is Coco? i assume that's Constanze? She and Remina are his cousins

We don't support incest in Texas
>>579498848
true
>>579498873
I'm afraid to view her h scenes in the castle I do wish she got more time with her sister, Sonya only said Adra-nee once and I found that adorable and wanted to hear it again but after she joins she doesn't have much to say or interact with because were in the climax hour
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>>579498285
She looks like she's going to become 3000x more sensitive, get gigantic breasts, get fucked by the lightning spirit, be fucked by Demiurge for 2 weeks straight and be given a futa cock to fuck her sisters.
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>>579499360
Well Texas is GAY
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>>579499360
Hild is also incest due to luka making her..
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For the collab talk if there's a next one they should pick Kagetsumugi. I'm sure she would bring a lot of fun.
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>>579499360
>Iiias is his grandmother
>She and Remina are his cousins
>We don't support incest
Anon... Anon, I have terrible news for you.
Alice is his descendant, Lucifina is his mother AND his great grandchild, Micaela? His aunt and great grandchild. Ilias? Grandmother and grandchild.
Oh and Coco and Remina are also descendants of his too. Like Heinrich, but we can't marry Heinrich.
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>>579500268
Didnt someone make an edit of this meme but like up to current standards?
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>>579500473
Would need to see the faces of Constanze, Remina, Neris, Adult Lucifina, Adult Miceala and Chaos

now that I think on it, Hild doesn't make a pleasured face during her scenes with Luka does she? She seems annoyed at him and actively punishing him if you make her put on the swimsuit
"Scream all you like, the swimsuit can't help you now." Is what I remember her saying
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If Ilias is incest and Ilias made all the angels does that make every angel scene incest
If Alice 1 is technically Ilias's sister entity and made all the monsters does that make the entire game incest
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>>579501853
Wait, it's all incest?
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>>579501853
Yes you doodoo cute head you!
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>>579501853
>If Alice 1 is technically Ilias's sister entity and made all the monsters does that make the entire game incest
After a certain number of generations it stops counting as incest. Iirc it's by the 8th generation.
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>>579478569
A certain Golden Bub could work too, but she would be pretty derivative of the little sister, unless they keep her manipulation contained to a certain race group like Paradox.
How is the Insect Girl selection in MMTD anyways?
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>>579503494
And it's in the nth generation AND the 1th, 2th, or 3th generation?
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>>579500473
It's funny, at the time of Ilias making that comment, it seemed evident to apply to just humans, seeing as it was in evidence with Luka's ancestor (500 years ago, so should be distant enough to not be an issue, but then again, Luka strongly resembles the male ancestor from that time), when in real life it's actually down to the Westermark effect, which as I recall applies to people you grew up with, making it possible for it to trigger with a close childhood friend, making someone not want to have sex with them because they subconsciously feel it would be like incest, something like that. Whilst in cases of siblings separated, if they discover each other, they are likely to find each other attractive, even if they do not know the connection between them. Yet here, we had a distant ancestor go like "for some reason I don't feel it", showing Ilias is telling the truth as it applies to the MGQ world (for humans at least).

And then we got Queen Remina and Constance. Who don't have that thing trigger, even though it was demonstrated to apply many generations removed.

I mean, in real life terms, 500 years worth of generations is distant enough it's fine, but still, funny how TRTR seemed to break his own lore there.
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>>579425047
How do you get those two traits/races? So far I can only transform Luka into his bunny form
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>>579508516
You can't, not yet. The only way you can have them is by using cheese, so cheating.
Do note that CGBA is a different character than the BA you got, unlike FoC.
I can show you their traits if you want.

By the way, how do you enjoy that bnuy form?
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>>579507864
Frankly, I thought it was pretty stupid.
The old princess should have just said she only has eyes for Heinrich, not the out of nowhere shota.
Royalty was all about incest, not direct incest like the Egyptians who fucked their sisters, but cousin fucking was in vogue for most of written human history.
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>>579508672
"you've beaten the game!"
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Huh?
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>>579503558
It doesn't feel like there are a lot of insectgirls, I can see 2 myrmidon, a queen bee and 3 +1 alt spidergirls, sandwormgirl, Beelzebub girl, technically manticore +alt and another
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>>579500268
please stop trying to insist this when it isn’t true
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>>579510592
forgot to sppiler the image lmao
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>>579499636
no that’s New Mexico
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>>579510592
He had his own personal chain too iirc, Sword, Holy dark heroism Chaos.
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>>579510665
Nex Mexico, Old Mexico, still deporting
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IS THAT ALL SHE WEARS
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>>579510769
How the fuck did Luka lose to a loli.
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>>579509805
If you think that's bad, check out Daddy of Chaos in spoiler.

Not show
>he got EVERY Worldbreaker and Judgement unique skills.
>New Heroic Skill Chaos Magia
>oh and fucking give +800% stats to the members of his party! It seems to be tied to the races.

>>579509917
>>579510050
Enjoy another layer of brokeness.

>>579510617
Chaos just send avision of the future or something to you, yes, to you, personally.

>>579510713
That's shown in his trait. The best part is that THEY ALL HAVE CRISIS 2%!
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>>579510839
You can take that person to marcellus in the castle to get some dialogue iirc.
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>>579510839
She's a slut. She is also most likely the town's bicycle. How the FUCK did Marcy and Lazzy mourned her in the OG.

Don't forget to go to the castle for some funni dialogues!
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>>579511040
Remember what Lazarus said. Little Karen is what he said when describing her. He probwholeness. Stilld for time when they where young, and she didn't awaken to her whoreness.
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D'ah drat.
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>>579511446
welcome to the wait for ng++
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>>579511446
You can still check out the arena if you are running out of things to do. Also there is another recruit added in an update but i didnt get them cuz im too lazy rn someone else can explain the uh triple conference thingy.
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>>579510839
She's covered head to toe, showing no skin.
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>>579511435
But then, in their hometown, she is drescribed as a whore!

>>579511446
Are you ready for the wait?

You only have the new job you unlocker, the arena, some dialogues in the castle, and LoC if you feel masochistic.
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>>579511684
Has he turned Luka into his final race yet? That'd take 5 minutes but they can work on that if they havent.
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>>579511902
I've unlocked the chaos race yeah.
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>>579511678
Yeah and everyone knows clothes are sexier than being naked. look at what she's covered in.
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>>579511936
How you enjoy them skills and abilities son?
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>>579512012
Where do I even begin?
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>>579512094
Nice! Do you have In Praise of Folly?
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>>579512334
Yeah, you steal that from that tongue girl I believe.
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>>579512374
You could have got it from a chest too. With a happy Dungeon Spirit near it.
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>"Main heroine"
>Has six races even without Prom's help
>Only ever tries to play catch up with Alice I
>Fails at that too because Fatlice achieves chaos transformation and leaves her in the dirt
Cucklice competes with Megumi in terms of wasted potential.
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>>579514787
Nothing really special about race maxxing when everyone can do it.
Alice is no different from the Illiasville town bicycle, who can be even more of a monster genetic cesspool than her.
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>>579515832
First no, the only other Iliasville characters with that are even close to her genetic potential are Luka and Sonya and not only did they reach theirs, but even canonically surpassed it. Also two major differences she has from Lime and the imps:
1. She's supposed to be a main heroine.
2. This is canon. She canonically only went for the Yoma upgrade.
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>>579405656
It she evil caused im sick and tired of psychotic Bdpdemon
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hang on
how much snakes are there
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>>579516457
>doesn’t need anything else
>still ridiculously powerful
based Alice?
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>>579409571
Goku would befriend them didn't he fuck i wished toriyama keep his kid goku personality when it come to dealing with evil faggot
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>>579516457
>reach theirs
reached their full genetic potential*
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I guess this really is it for Paradox. At least for now. What a ride. Time for an actual break this time.
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>>579516782
What part of "Fails at that too because Fatlice achieves chaos transformation and leaves her in the dirt" didn't you understand?
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any monster girl games to look forward to? doesn't have to be porn
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>>579517463
Yeah imagine needing to eat out Ilias to get stronger. Disgusting.
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>>579516968
Did you do the uh arena just to double check Cuz it is fun send screenies.
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>>579498873
calm down
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>>579517569
Dumber Ilias and Fat Alice were made for each other. Two useless hikki goddesses who should watch crappy local television together for all eternity, since they are too boomer to know how to use streaming.
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>>579518164
The yuri...
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>>579517463
>"leaves her in the dirt"
>still gets her shit pushed in anyway
>then loses the transformation until NG++
sure, pal
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>>579516531
From what I gather, she isn't in spite of talking like that.
I still haven't finished her bonding, but Iron Maiden is a bioweapon sent to kill Kazuya, strong enough she could kill demon lords and all before the augmentations at bond 60 or so she exposes it's because she was born as a succubus min-maxed for dryfishing, to the point the rest of the race avoided her and she became lonely. The process that turned her into Iron Maiden either removed or gave her control over those powers, so she could finally get closer to people but thing is she got assigned to kill Kazuya right after
In spite of those expressions and loving to do stuff like cooking eggs because it's fun to feel taking life away, she is actually respectful of Kazuya's wishes, so she asks or lets go if seduction fails.
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>>579516968
Congratulation! There's also the panties, but eh... See you next update, in ten years!

Wait, there's a sidequest actually no? With the angels.
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>>579516968
Evacongratulations.gif
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>>579517470
Succubus Rhapsodia 2 is still in development. It's progressing fine
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/21548/article/1937847
There's also this other game called Ningen Breed, from the creator of this popular fanart. Has three succubi, two busty and one a loli. There's also some fetishes not so popular here, like bestiality and age play without regression. Seems far from complete, though the loli has made cameos in SHRIFT 2 already.
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/10275/article/1684613
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>>579518791
It's a super important quest.
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>>579517696
Already did that
>>579518791
Side quest?
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>>579519947
>they're just like kitsunes!
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Woah!
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>>579508516
>>579508672
You should be able to see both of them normally in the library. Sadly you can't use them but it is there to look at.
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This is just sad.
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Awwwww.
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>>579522768
Kawaii as FOK
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>>579522490
Oh my God!!
She's sitting BEHIND the couch and not ON the couch!
it's ok trtr I know it's a pain to finagle that. But it looks really nice when you get it to work.
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>>579520924
I found this mini-quest rather nice.
AW Michaela is such a pure girl, not knowing that men are trying to flirt with her by giving her super expensive chocolate.
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>>579523768
pretty hardass townsmen to attempt such bribery towards the scary naked head angel who always looks to be staring daggers into your heart
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>>579523321
It's the little things
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>>579526175
Did you ever add anons and their wives?
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I hope to god people dont abuse this as I genuinely love Chaos.. i'm the guy tryna draw her as various monstergirls. But my autism snapped when i saw a marcellus version of this meme with adra and The fact i couldnt find a Chaos Vs Luka version semi offended me because it's from the we're here to kill chaos game the uh original sauce.
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>>579522490
NEAT Goddess, not NEET Goddess!!!!!!
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>>579526715
I haven't actually put this into Paradox yet, I'm still waiting until I can properly figure out how to add new characters in order to use Okyuu as the test run and make sure that my understanding of how to code her trait really would work. Then figure out how to spaghetti some quest or something. There's tutorials for it I'm sure but Paradox is a gordian knot of love and passion.

Also I think I assessed the location for Okyuu's cafe incorrectly and it's probably further up the island on the outskirts of the forest on the grassland near the main group of Monster Girl cities (either nearby a cliff or a lake), and not actually near/on the coastline, so I'm probably gonna change the surrounding area for it anyway. The coast is probably just where Okyuu runs her food stands and beach hut.

At the very least though, I've learned that I can just directly copy/paste the map into it and it just messes up the events and co-ordinates but otherwise will be intact so long as I imported the tilesets beforehand. And I did put it's tilesets (and Okyuu, Aqua and other stuff) into Paradox.

I might port characters over anyway though, so maybe I can try and do it in the sandbox.

>>579527126
It's Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin.
ALL I CARE ABOUT IS SEEING CHAOS DEAD.
I NEED TO.
IT'S NOT A HOPE OR A DREAM.
IT'S LIKE A HUNGER. A THIRST.
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>"Yeah, I've been there, it's on the second floor, middle left"
>"No no, it's that place before the hallway on the third floor that's gonna take you to that toxic waste dump corridor"
>"Look you realize we can just touch the signpost at the entrance and warp to the end now right"
>"To be honest we could just fly over everything but I feel like that'd be rude"
It's not an exact 1:1 replication but I just think it's really cool that they actually took part of the Lunar Base and created a custom stage for the event instead of just reusing something else
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>>579518259
>Something amazing...
FTFY
And honestly, yeah, I second this. I want to see them hatefuck each other in their chaos forms so I can tell that it is Subilias.
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>>579522490
it's also hilarious. this is what happens when you still want to punish characters but can't kill them since it's a collect-them-all. other highlights are Kanon and Gabriella being hated by everyone (except for Kanon's family that didn't already hate her where they're just disappointed in her instead) and Queen Eva having brain damage and PTSD from Lucifina politely asking her to skip the boss rush.
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>>579516823
I mean, he personally killed Majin Buu. And if we're talking about Super he killed the Vegeta clone and if he was planning to spare Zamasu he certainly didn't show it (neither in the anime, nor Toyotaro's non-canon official fanfic Toriyama was using as toilet paper). And then there are all the villains he has killed in the more-canon-than-Tracetaro's-SHITga Super Dragon Ball Heroes...
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>>579518259
Call it whatever you want. These are the two characters I dont want Luka to ever end up with. I'd be more happier with him ending up with the traitor, or as Hiruko's chew toy then to subject him for all eternity with those two horrible people.
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You know? I always wondered what the retard would do if Luka kept rejecting her and the time to continue her bloodline came. We know some of the earlier monster lords raped random humans to impregnate themselves out of obligation (gotta ensure that the bloodline is continued) but the brat here would prolly throw a tantrum at the thought
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>>579537025
He doesnt care because he is happily married.
When his wife retires, and she stops being the ML. Neris is going to have to get over it.
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>>579537025
Does the monster lord even matter? Will anything actually happen if Neris just refuses to become the monster lord? Anyone strong enough can effectively do the job because all it amounts to is "person who goes around to beat up unruly monsters"
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>>579537875
Yes. The purpose of the job is to be an impartial outside party who will be able to intervene in difficult situations and decide what the best way to handle a given conflict between two groups of monsters or monsters and humans is. They are also supposed to keep the races of monster girls in balance; the Monster Lords are the ones who have the power to appoint new Queens via a special ceremony, can strip them of authority, and override local jurisdiction if the situation calls for it and establish protocol that will be obeyed from then on.

The reason you have to be strong to hold the job is because regardless of the fact that most monster girls get along with humanity and are able to co-exist, they still need a mediator amongst themselves, and the most dangerous/powerful monsters operate on survival of the fittest and won't listen to anyone who is weaker than them. So being the Monster Lord necessitates having the strength to back up the authority so you can actually enforce it if you need to.

This is why Alice 9th spent her entire life cleaning up BA's mess even before the 8th died; because she actually cared about doing the job properly and her sister is a maniac.
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>>579540825
You're giving this job a lot more aura than I think is warranted. The monster lord isn't the Avatar. They don't keep the four nations in harmony. They just go around acting as a beat stick to solve problems (badly, if we go by current alice)
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>>579540986
>aura
anon that's literally just the canon job description.
Not every Monster Lord is a Warlord like the 3rd, and the reason Alice 3rd defeated or conquered all the rebel factions who were vying for power was so that the 4th would have the groundwork to actually install proper structure and legislation without worrying about rebellion attempts or outbreaks of violence. Alice 9th was doing a ton of boring documents and filings to sort out all the situations her sibling caused, and part of the reason Alice 16th looks for excuses to take time off is because a lot of the time she's spending hours doing boring legal bureaucratic paperwork at a desk. I'm pretty sure this is why 5th ditched the job as soon as she could, if I'm remembering her situation correctly.

Most of the time being the Monster Lord is boring.
It's like being the King. It SOUNDS cool, sure, but it's not all it's cracked up to be.
Black Alice did what she did because she found the peaceful era she was born during to be "boring" in the first place, irrespective of the job, so she would've done the same thing even if it did just consist of running around with the biggest stick.
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>>579542551
I know it is, i'm saying it just has a bit of issue with all the stuff the monster lord does is stuff that's told as opposed to shown. we're TOLD tamamo does government stuff in the background, TOLD alice the ninth did a bunch of stuff, TOLD a lot of monster lords did a bunch of infrastructure work but none of it really being shown. You can't just handwave it all away with "well it's a lot of paperwork and that'd be boring" because leaders do a lot more than paperwork. Trtr effectively showed tamamo as a competent leader with the existence of cyber yamatai without directly just telling us about it. But the monster lords are granted not as much.
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If I were monster lord, I'd increase the shota tax for slimes, succubi and mermaids. I'd lower it for the rest.
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>>579510839
The joke of Sonya's mom being the generic Eroge heroine after a slut route was an odd but interesting route for trtr to take
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I'm personally quite fine with not having every possible minute detail about each aspect of the world laid out to me including some bureaucracy work and tax policies
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>>579544342
It's kind of important when the main heroine is tied to the job, though. I'm not saying we should've had an "Alice does her taxes" minigame but making the monster lord title feel like it has some gravitas outside of just its power could've been fun
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>>579542913
Most of it was in the past, and usually a lot of the rules that (x city/group/place) is currently following were established by someone else. Either one of the Queens, or one of the Monster Lords, it tends to vary. Unless you take the places you visit as the examples in-of themselves, I'm not really sure what else you'd do.
Plus in the Original World, Alice does intervene multiple times on her authority, some in more diplomatic ways and others with violence. But in Parts 1/2 she usually stays back to see what Luka would do in the situation, because she's using Luka's adventure to try and test his resolve and his commitment to the ideals of heroism and co-existence.

>>579543804
To be fair the guys at Rostrum tell you she looked like a total slut and it's mentioned anytime Sonya asks about her. To her dismay. the funniest part was Sonya freaking out when her Mom mentions their outfits are similar.
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I'm personally quite fine with having a hypothetical version of Chaos who's another oppai loli mermaid
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>>579544554
to be honest I think this is something that was only really going to work in the VN due to Paradox having to boot her out of the position by necessity.
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>>579545526
tell her to un-lead all the water in the port so they stop being brain damaged please. their reputation has plummeted.
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>>579545129
>Alice does intervene multiple times on her authority
And like I do understand that, it's just my issue is that Alice's opinion doesn't feel valued because she's the monster lord, but because she's the strongest monster. The position of monster lord doesn't feel like it has anything in of itself aside from it being the signifier of the strongest monster and therefore they have to respect her opinion because she is the strongest, as opposed to just genuinely valuing the position of monster lord and respecting it on their own sake. Which is why I feel Alice loses a lot when she's not strong and the position could have done more to feel like people value it for the stuff they do as opposed to "well she's strong"
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>>579545768
I suppose that's a fair way to view it. The 4th was insecure due to her not being as powerful as the 3rd, and was informed that she played a vital role with what she did and was a great ruler, but that's just in pocket castle conversations.
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>>579546681
and I do think the pocket castle conversations and monsterpedia enteries do a lot to flesh out the role of monster lord. It's just that those are both extremely supplementary to the actual story so it's a bit frustrating
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>>579546681
Do the MLs have any combaroutes. dialog by any chance? We do fight them after all. I was going to test it, but kind of forgot. And I am talking about their doll forms too, since we fight at least half of them in the decision route.
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>>579510839
She's wearing too much, if you ask me.
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>MGD update
>2 months since last one
>3 new scenes, shitty CG and le balance changes!
Whoa...
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>>579550717
Welcome to patreon scams.
Somebody post the Sophia horn change.
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Howling at this one honestly.
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Gents, is part 3 generally feature complete? Is it worth waiting for updates which will come in an unknown timeframe? Not like I am against waiting, I have other games to play. I just wanna know what would I even be waiting for? If its just NG+ and translation, I do not particularly care about those.
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>>579552886
part 3 is entirely feature complete aside from ng++ and launched as such, why did you think it wasn't finished? Updates have only added very minor things like some side quests
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What would be the best combination for a chain with all 5 types of skills (Combat, Magic, Job, Racial, Special/Weapon).
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>>579553052
eeehh my stupidity i guess? i played when only part2 was out and didnt keep up with it
the multiple versions (of the tl im guessing?) in the op and screenshots of "ng+ isnt out yet!" made me a bit confused
thanks though, guess ill get on it finally
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>>579552886
The story is finished, the only reason why some think it's incomplete is because the teased NG++ mode has yet to be released, and it's very unlikely that TrTr will turn it into a secret part 4
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>>579553915
that 16 nonillion word Light Novel may as well be part 4 by this point. I don't think trtr will stop making mgq until he drops dead
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>>579553915
Also the updated LoC.
The post-game is really the last update needed. Unless TrTr decides to make a new enemy that can somehow challenge him, Paradox Luka's story is now complete.
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>>579553915
>and it's very unlikely that TrTr will turn it into a secret part 4
As someone who doesn't think it's essential to the story I do believe he'll delay it long enough for it to turn into a part 4. It shouldn't stop people from playing Part 3 now though
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>>579555038
>Unless TrTr decides to make a new enemy that can somehow challenge him
there's already three of them in the game's files that DOC and FOC are probably making themselves
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>>579555803
Do you mean the apostles? They get killed ASAP by Black Alice. Infact the best enemy to challenge FoC and DoC would be Black Alice becoming an actual god to add irony to Ilias saying she'd never be a god since BA should be a better combatant than either FoC and DoC, or Koron also getting that powerup
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>>579556220
honestly they both her and them didn't even need to be there in the first place, there wasn't much of a point. the cutscene as a whole is a mess though.
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>>579553286
>Combat
Sword for damage as it has the best skills and sword booster is likely to increase anything else in this chain, throwing if you want to make a support
>Magic
Most magic types have some support or debuff so anything but Summoning or Psychic can work. Grimoire is almost as bad as those but can lower stats
>Job
Heroism no question for damage dealers. Either Medicine or Singing for supports.
>Racial
Ocean for supports. Slime if you like buffing, Artificial if you like damage.
>Special/Weapon
Weapon as a chain would be silly. Special also only really helps if it's at the start of a chain since 90% of it is buffs or debuffs. If it's in this exact order just ignore Special and replace it with Chaos since that feels more appropriate for a 5 chain considering current ones.
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>>579558179
this but dancing and also bows/rapiers/spear
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>>579558179
>>579558779
No what I meant was, if there were Chain in the game like:
>Any Combat Skill->Any Magic Skill->Any Job Skill->Any Racial Skill->Special or Weapon Skill
>Any Magic Skill->Any Job Skill->Any Racial Skill->Special or Weapon Skill->Any Combat Skill
>Any Job Skill->Any Racial Skill->Special or Weapon Skill->Any Combat Skill->Any Magic Skill
etc, which of these chains would be the best? And don't mean "Any _ Skill" as in [Insert Specific Skill Type], I mean as in ANY skill from 1 of the 5 categories..
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>>579558179
Summons can inflict a weakness with a very small 2AP ability.
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>>579560338
Going from personal experience given how I played through certain challenges in Part Three; I would say
>[Special] > [Job] > [Magic] > [Race/Combat] > [Combat/Race]
Special to buff, Job to buff/debuff, Magic to use taoism and slather the enemy with elemental weaknesses, and then just start pelting the opponent with a plethora of powerful attacks and stack/refresh buffs as needed. This would also work for support builds if you replaced the taoism with one of the support magics since throwing is a combat skill and there's plenty of supportive race skills.
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>>579560338
Outside Special being first you just want the BEST you're asking for the optimal combo for the biggest Heroism/Chaos chain so it can go anyway unless someone wants to do some insane math.
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>>579561442
I think he means for general purpose use in the average playthrough and not just the almighty hero/chaos meta for loc memes
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>>579500268
I don't think Chaos-chan qualifies as the mother of Ilias and Alice I even if she's the personification of chaos. Time traveling incest just seems way too messy. Like the genetic history of everyone would just be constantly going through an infinite branching loop that also retroactively stacks godhood.
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chaos existed before the eye and it will continue to exist after
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>>579563235
It saw the creation of the first universe, it's destruction, and the eight universes after.
It will continue even after the 9th is destroyed, and its current avatar going with it.
Nothing is eternal, except chaos, but not Chaos herself.
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chaos naizuri scene doko
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just be reborn, like a phoenix!
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>>579563728
Tell that to your mother.
Your dead mother.
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>>579563908
Her mother isn't dead anon, she's somewhere out there now. Mini hopes she can find her again some day so she can tell her about all the fun that she's had on her adventure.

Her kidnapper is banned from reality, however.
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>>579563728
who could ever be mean to such a cute face?
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>>579564937
>Invite Phoenix Girl?
No.
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>>579565787
>anon then took her home anyways, for "completionism purposes"
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Is informant a good class?
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>>579566898
Yes, it's pretty strong later on in particular, but early on it's invaluable for helping you recruit girls. Luka can always use talk skills, so I would level him in it.
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>>579567054
Yeah I finally got Luka's job to 10 just now so that's what I'll do.
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>>579550717
who are the scenes for? also this game is so damn hard for me to delete,there are so many girls I like n wnt to hve fun lewd times with yet I know the guy has found the pateron nugget and won't let it go, I think it'll have to take F95 finally getting fed up with him to either get the plot in gear or just rage quit. Remember, he had the short stack dragon around for over 2 years before he finally started using her and her scenes
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>>579562936
Luka's seeds were used. Hild's womb was used. Logic and what we are told dictate that I'm right.
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>>579567364
>Remember, he had the short stack dragon around for over 2 years before he finally started using her and her scenes

Makes you wonder what other art might already be done and is just lying around
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>>579567928
Logic and what you are told dictate that she's not suddenly their parent when they existed before she was even a concept
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>>579550717
Aside from the weirdly thin dick, I liked the CGs
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do anyone got https://www.dlsite.com/home/work/=/product_id/RJ01675212.html here?
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>>579563728
phoenix dance
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>>579562936
At minimum Idea Lukas and the other apostles are chaos' kids as the apostles are technically spawned from her.
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You guys did eat Venefica's love bar, right? Right in front of Elly?
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>>579575086
In the same sense that Lucifina and Micaela are Ilias's kids, yeah.
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>>579577310
Who is this "Venefica", and why does she want me to eat something in front of the mermaid princess
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>>579577825
MGD character.
She is pinkoid looking Hellhound.
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>>579578319
western monster girl game is when you steal the mge hellhound design
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>>579578460
It's a good design.
KC's magnus opus creation.
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>>579577825
Picrel
>>579578319
She's a bunnygirl.
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>>579578319
She's Nine the Phantom. Ceris is the hellhound.
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>>579579014
I don't remember these two, but Nine's easily better
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>>579378864
Could someone share a save file around the time when Luka gets dropped into the unified world with his parents and you can start exploring the world map?
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>>579579315
https://files.catbox.moe/88hwl0.rvdata2
This work? There's some slight cheese fuckery like Luka being battle fucker and queen fucker but not gadabout or prostitute, but nothing major. Save's at the point where the pocket castle's being invaded.
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>>579580672
The game's not detecting it. Here's what my save file folder looks like after I started a new game and saved 1 time
As for the starting location you mentioned, that would be a good one too
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>>579581583
You'll need to rename the file to save02.rvdata2 or save**.rvdata2 (** being any number)
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>>579581583
Catbox changed the file name. Used to be save43.rvdata2
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>>579581843
>>579581964
Works like a charm now, tyvm

>>579577310
I sold it back to her in my most recent playthrough just yesterday
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>>579582901
>I sold it back to her
That's mean.
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>>579567364
>Livewire shortstack scene
>Scene where you get felt up by some ethereal light being which isn't explained too much
>Kunoichi double blowjob scene
>Some conversations with Camilla
Also a new event with Camilla that just starts the fight with her earlier??? Its just a shorter version of her mountain path event. I don't get it.
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>>579587413
I guess it saves some time if you just wanted to fight her in the labyrinth
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Harpy anon do harpies produce milk.
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>>579588767
yes.
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I think that my new bare minimum for checking out a MGD update is a new character. These baby steps every two months are ridiculous.
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is the job EXP just for future exp on this character?
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>>579593559
Yeah, and it's a very long game so you break it by rushing this once multiple Jobs become super important in Part 3.
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>>579593559
My top priority at the beginning of every run (aside from figuring out who I want to use in the early game) is to max out the Master Maid job for all my team members ASAP
Note that I only use 4 team members; I never switch in others mid-fight. When people say "my team," I never know if they're like me or if I'm in the minority of players
It'd be neat if someone made a poll about this
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>>579570881
She existed as a concept, but we aren't talking about the concept, we are talking about the body.
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>>579587413
Man, if he's doing stuff like that why can't he let us fuck Elly and Erina? I'd love to battle in the sheets with Erina when she's not drunk off her ass, that event is randomized too so it's annoying trying and Elly definitely started getting into using the lead as her lewd experiment lab rat, maybe do something with that?
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Chaos but angel looks weird prolly could make it weirder.
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i'm thinking of making my own h game which sounds more erotic
"She rolls her hips in circles daring me to endure"
or
"she pumps her hips up and down in a piston movement daring me to endure"
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>>579610589
>"She rolls her hips in circles daring me to endure"
this
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>>579610589
The latter by far because I've had sex and know that when a girl rolls her hips/midsection while I'm inside her, it doesn't stimulate my dick even the tiniest, little bit. I literally feel nothing from it
Also, you need to work on adding commas to your sentences, EG, "circles, daring," not, "circles daring"
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>>579610589
Honestly sex scenes should just be in illustrated or animation format. Monologues take fucking forever.
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>>579614587
Ok but what of the poor anons with monologue fetishes?
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Holmiel talking about milking magic is an essential part of her scene.
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>>579607730
Biblicaly accurate.
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>>579620545
What happens when a marine says follow me for free fish do i folloow them?
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>>579621196
That was the inspiration. Should have went more nuts with it. But im not talented enough to do that anyways.

I turned them into a slime.

She seems to like the color black so i figured if she did turn herself into one she'd be black.
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>>579620545
No one is eating them, since seahorse taste bad. They aren't being used as sex slaves, because the Seahorse Girls lack any, and all sexual features that would turn people on.
It must be sad individuals who need a comfort animal when hugging their plushies aren't enough.
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>>579578657
Speaking of Venefica, it still bothers me that the most you can do to a defeated girl is light BDSM 101 (and that with the Igawa Asagi clone (you know, from the TAIMANIN series)) that ends with her making you shit your pants, but then on the femdom side you have things like Venefica's 3-day edging/orgasm denial event. Classic "Battle" "Fuck" game, I guess.
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>>579621535
There coulda be a conspiracy someone feeding them though as they are monsters... and they wouldnt have to buy food if this was the case.
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>>579621434
Not gooey enough sadly.
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>>579620545
Note: We have seen a suspect, seemingly a tall member of the angel race, with long elf like ears and bangs completely covering her eyes. Very obviously female as well. Please report to the Navy Headquarters if you have seen any sign of this suspicious person
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>>579621562
Damn, you sold me on this game
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>>579596073
Since game has a habit of taking away plot-relevant companions for lore reasons, I stick to my non-story preference team of Mermaid General, Valkyrie and Lucretia.
Funnily enough, if I could be certain I can have plot-relevant characters without them being taken away, it would have been Arumaeruma, Lucifina and.. probably still Lucretia, or Mini. Maybe even Sonya.
Also game pushes very hard for Lime, even if her inputs are just random incoherent fluff speech, she surely talks a lot in P1-P2 so far.
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>>579621772
yeah..
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>>579477756
Could see these two also being added, though Cosmos might need a more conventional hole...
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>>579614587
Is that bad? I was going to use dialogue to gate new animations in this.
>https://files.catbox.moe/ddbslv.png
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>>579624407
Do as you please really, I just find it hard to jack off over 10-20 minutes
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i'd like a yog girl
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>>579514787
Funnily enough it seems that Alice was originally going to become a Beast of Time... in a way at least.
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>>579625110
So is Luka gonna end up pregnant with the dunwich horror?
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>>579625289
But then Alice Route said nope. Even if she was going to end as a part of WB or be purified by the end of the game. Always gonna suck Alice.
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>>579625578
well, Luka wouldn't be IN dunwich, so it can't be a dunwich horror.
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>>579626509
She got a cool form and title and the alternative was ego death as she becomes another avatar for the bunny rabbit and destroys the world so I think it's a fair trade
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>>579621961
W-who would do such a thing!?
We must catch this ruffian!!
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>>579626709
It's most likely going to be saved for her equivalent of Final form Ilias. Which would be a big Alice win considering that Ilias form is ugly, but it's also so ugly they just might make a new one for her.
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>>579627361
One of us is winning at least
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>>579625289
I do wonder if this supposed to be another AU version of Alice. If so, I hope it's from a universe where she is completely different. Maybe one who killed Luka herself.
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>>579626709
Oh yes, that would be horrible that she died or get ego death in the WB path. Really, really bad.

It's not like she could have been purified at the end of the game or anything.
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>>579625578
More like the Dunwich Whore.
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>>579629279
well yeah you wouldn't be able to beat the WB path otherwise
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>>579629751
Anon, I'm saying that if she fused with Luka to become WB, the chaosization wouldn't have been a problem or something.
It would have been better anyways.
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>>579467621
>Sky Dance + Rental Anti-Giant Cannon + Fifty Billion Byahkee
I have decided to pardon her crimes against the world, on account of her helping me get a very big high score
would've rather had this kind of record for the team I'm very attached to/invested in but maybe when Secrets of the Harpies comes out I'll be able to pull it off then since they announced that was coming after Secrets of the Sea Dwellers
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>>579624328
I was going to say something about how she wouldn't really make sense due to how tied she is to the elemental system of MGQ.
But considering her personality. I coukd see her showing up on the island for a vacation because she is finally "free". The fae and elementals of MMTD would be her posse, since she would be one of them.
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>>579631440
Luka did mention wanting to meet the other elemental spirits since he got to see Petra the Gnome. MMTD even has an explicit Ice Spirit counterpart with Fris, and Waemawa could fill the role for lightning.
I just like those two a lot in general, though.
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Check monster girl quest encyclopedia fic because the game still hasn't update people just write fic about suicide to spite the manamono.What caused this i thought the setting was vanilla utopia
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>>579632445
Honestly I get not liking the setting but writing spitefiction about a setting is an entirely different layer of autism. On that note, there are a fair few MGQ fics. Most of them are kind of bad because MGQ is inherently kind of a bad setting for fanfiction due to the VN being too railroady with Alice and the paradox being just, too much
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>>579632445
Utopia is another word for poison.
The poison of the soul.
Not really, it's just people being really edgy.
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>>579632445
it's a long and complicated history that I don't feel like going into again, so just understand that if someone is doing this it isn't the best use of their time
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>>579632931
Honestly the funniest thing to do with mge fics is to go into the comments because there will be garunteed setting arguments
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>>579422779
This is supposed to be oh so heartwarming, yet we barely know the little shit. You can argue we know her from her aspects, but we barely just befriended them and for the most part the experience with them was not exactly pleasant.
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Who the fuck is the hat man in sucubus prison
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>>579632628
MGQ is ripe for original character fics, where you see the adventures or daily lives of people living in the world of MGQ. In other words, fics about the world, not the main characters.
Paradox has so many characters you can make side stories about the different party members.
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>>579433962
Umm...
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>>579633243
Issue is MGQ vn world honestly isn't all that interesting of a setting. Paradox is, but Paradox is such a beast of a fucking game to get through and parse I understand why most fic writers dont bother. I feel like you'd have to do so much worldbuilding to make a lot of mgq stuff work that you may as well just write your own monster girl setting by that point
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do you guys usually swap out a party member for this guy during this fight?
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>>579633493
>during this fight?
No. He's great after that fight but I don't think his default build has any of the roid stuff he got buffed with later.
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>>579633223
Around 1:10 PM, Nemea brings a guy with a top hat for sex. The protagonist thinks he looks like a gangster.
If you're playing the censored version and you use the magical Bib, instead of getting aged down your sprite changes to his and you can't access Nemea's unique scene.
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>>579633125
dang, anon, did the little girl in tartarus 3 kill your family or something
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>>579633406
MGQ has made it that getting isekaid from our workd is possible without some OG idea shoved in to make sense of it all.
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>>579634051
That doesn't have anything to do with what I said. There's plenty of "Guy isekai'd into MGQ" fics and most of them are pretty uninteresting because MGQ (vn) just inherently is not that interesting or deep of a setting. It's carried really hard by its character writing
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>>579633406
I would disagree, I've seen plenty of fics for it over the years besides, even excluding the side stories.
However, the majority is the self-insert kind of thing you would expect from most fics.
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>>579634153
>MGQ (vn) just inherently is not that interesting or deep of a setting
can't say I agree
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>>579633406
Now that Part 3 is out Paradox just has too many godlike characters that it kinda ruins it unless you just wanted to write a Dragon Ball Super fic but with Luka instead of Goku
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>>579634163
There being a lot of fics does not a good fanfiction setting make. A good fanfiction setting is a setting that inherently facillitates good directions for fanfics. I generally consider most shounen bad fanfiction settings yet they have tons of fanfics
>>579634297
It's just my opinion. MGQ's setting exists to facillitate Luka's adventure and his and Alice's growth. It's not a very deep or well thought out setting in of itself. And that's fine for what the VN is trying to do, but it's just not that useful for writing fanfiction. You can disagree, but everything i've read from fanfiction just kinda reinforces it. There's just not a lot TO DO aside from following the plot or fucking monster girls. It's a pretty generic fantasy setting aside from that
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>>579633493
I only swapped for AE on arena because VN training made outcome of that swap obvious.
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>>579634527
The multi-verse lets you ultimately do whatever you want. TrTr probably realized that fact himself, since the franchise is leaning really heavily on it now to continue even with Luka's story being finished.
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>>579634527
I think it's well thought out, but most people who are writing fanfiction are not trying to do anything special in the first place. Cecil's two sidestories are pure fanfiction, but they're pretty great and fit within the setting very well.
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>>579635123
Anon you never needed a blessing from the author to do AUs, that's always been a very normal fanfiction thing. Issue is unless you're just doing a coffee shop AU or something that requires a lot of tooling and isn't something most authors want to do
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>>579635320
I don't think people remember Cecil's sidestories much for their narratives, per se.
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>>579510845
Just with this trait alone all physical attacks deal 8x their original damage, due to how Element append works (iirc).
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>>579510845
>>579635926
Also, despite the lower ATK stat, WB and Judge might be better jobs for that trait than KoH.
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>>579635320
I feel like you could cut most of the mgq specific elements out of Cecil's adventure and lose effectively nothing. Like Alma is there, I guess. But nothing much changes if it's a generic succubus.
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>>579636328
Couldn't you cut all the porn out of MGQ and lose effectively nothing too.
Like, yes you can, but it's still there and worked into it.
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>>579636449
the MGQ elements of Cecil's adventure aren't really that relavent to it, though. The Porn everpresent to the plot of mgq and can't be escaped. In Cecil's quest the mgq stuff is largely just there for some fluff
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>>579636312
KoH has regen. It's ironically one of the worst final jobs in general because of that passive
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>>579634051
Oof

>>579632445
How terrible... Couldn't have happened to a better fanon.
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>>579636312
WB and Judge are a league of their own, no joke it's better than King of Heroes.
I find KoH to be disappointing anyways.

>>579636724
To be fair, you can stop the regen thanks to the In Praise of Folly acc, and the Passive in LoC.
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>>579635926
>due to how Element append works
Elaborate. I am curious about scaling math here.
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>>579636648
>everpresent to the plot of mgq
it's really not, "monster has sex with man" isn't even reliant on porn in the first place and beyond that everything else is irrelevant/unimportant and could be cut without loss. It's just used the same way in the first Cecil sidestory as it is in MGQ. The perception bias is one being fanfiction and the other being the game it's fanfiction of, but they use it the same way.
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>>579636724
It was a pretty fantastic job when I was playing through, but I didn't use it for crisis.
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>>579637363
Almost everything in the setting of MGQ revolves around sex, monsters exist to have sex, almost every monster is attacking him because they want to have sex with Luka. Almost every dillema is about sex. Monster girls are generally attractive women looking for sex. Cutting the sex out of mgq, which is the payoff for a lot of the porny setup, would be infinitely more jarring than cutting the mgq out of Cecil. Which is for the most part a fairly standard "warrior fights some monsters" story
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>>579636449
>Couldn't you cut all the porn out of MGQ and lose effectively nothing too.
No.
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>>579637227
When a skill or in super rare cases a trait uses multiple chaos elements it takes in all the boosters.
See Raphaela do +75% with Eternal and Nightmare? it applies twice to her spells with those elements, and then adds in the Pleasure/Holy boosters and overboosters so it's like (skill +150% +150% +75% +75%) and now you have some monster unit Trtr didn't really consider being this overpowered.
Now in rare cases like that trait it turns every Physical attack into those super boosted skills instead of being forced to use skills with those elements.
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>>579636449
Yes. Bu don't say it out loud.
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>>579637648
>almost every monster is attacking him because they want to have sex with Luka.
A lot are just hungry, to be fair.
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>>579636449
It can barely stand on its own as a story, remove the porn and its a crater
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>>579638089
The raunchy humour makes up a lot of the setting's image, tone and comedy. remove that shit and literally no one would touch it.
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>>579637648
You could cut all the sex out and it wouldn't change the actual plot of the story, the sex is just there for the purpose of it. Also there are plenty of monsters attacking Luka because they want to eat him or capture and feed off of him, not just sex. The game has a "skip vore" function for a reason.
>Almost every dillema is about sex
Plansect is interracial war, Grangold is the rebellion, Grand Noah is the arena (which just has rape for the sake of having rape, it's not vital at all), Port Natalia is you delivering a wedding invitation, Sabasa is just an escort mission, Witch Hunt Village is Lily turning people into tentacle blobs, Chrome's Mansion is all the undead caused by her experiments, there's attempts at global genocide/war, etc, the main dilemmas are mostly revolving around trying to find a way to balance the solution that needs to be done with Luka's idealism and desire to prove co-existence is possible.

You could cut the rape from literally all of that stuff and miss nothing, because it's not that important or integral to the plot, and the main benefit of it is just it helping MGQ gatekeep itself.

Even in that regard, the main sidestory of hers everyone thinks of has the plot revolving around the mysterious disappearances of women in addition to men being attacked because Santania is turning them into moth girls and Cecil is sent because it's believed she would stand a better chance than the men would. It uses the porn aspect the same way the main game does. The different is just that all of the ones she runs into will eat her because she's a girl.
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>>579637952
So the rule is "all elemental boosters , assuming skill does all those elements in a single attack", like when enemy is equally weak to fire/lightning and game writes attack dealt both elements cause it can't decide which one it should do?
Or is it chaos element-only thing for some obscure reason?
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>>579638357
no
>>579637850
yes
>>579638089
sometimes it has to be said
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>>579638534
>and the main benefit of it is just it helping MGQ gatekeep itself.
that, and it's funny. The taboo nature makes it more exciting to play the game. If it was some shitty sfw sellable on steam I wouldn't even bother.
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>>579637952
I have a feeling those boosters are going to be the first things to be nerfed when the next big update happens.
Either way, they are typically what makes or breaks a meta character, unless they have some crazy trait like Kanade or Uriela.
The current Doomsday Idiots are so badly balanced right now just because of them.
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>>579638534
Doesn't this just kind of prove my original argument that Cecil is not a good argument for MGQ being great for fanfiction actually. It's a MGQ fanfic because it is a MGQ fanfic, not because it inherently needs to be. And even then no one's contested my other argument that no one cares about Cecil for it's narrative, they care because it has really good art and the scenes are hot.
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>>579638571
Second. It's the Chaos element special as it's so elements like Holy/Eternal stack boosters separately so it can be a powerspike from Part 2 mechanics where it's only the highest booster. It's one of the first tutorials in Part 3 with the succubus (angel) teacher and also very easy to miss.
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>>579638449
No one talked about the rauchy humor, so it's cool.
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>>579638648
Would you genuinely bother with this series if there wasn't hot monster girls and funny rape.
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>>579638926
>that no one cares about Cecil for it's narrative
I liked it, I thought I made that clear.
And no, it doesn't prove your original argument. It makes good use of MGQ's elements within the setting and works well in it. My point was just that the elements you were trying to pin as making fanfiction impossible aren't even vital for the original story in the first place and are more or less flavoring because trtr wanted to make an h-game. MGQ is a porn game because trtr wanted porn, not because it needed it. trtr's upcoming light novel won't even have any porn at all.
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>>579638829
Nerfing? In this game?
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>>579639114
The autism grinding people think they would but probably not. I think paradox isjust like a gacha without the gacha part and you waifu and grind one or two characters.
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>>579639114
Monster Girls are not inherently tied to porn.
>would you bother if there were Monster Girls but no porn
yes. Monster Girls are great.
>>579639267
the most gacha part about the game is the evil characters joining you and then turning into funny allies
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>>579639231
>It makes good use of MGQ's elements within the setting and works well in it
It uses them largely as fluff and it would work fine without them. I never said making MGQ fanfiction is literally impossible, I said it's not a good fanfiction *setting*. I already said that these are two entirely different things. You can make monster girl quest fanfiction, but the monster girl quest stuff is largely gonna end up as fluff to an original narrative because MGQ really ain't that deep
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I was getting filtered on Brynhildr until I realized I should be treating this like SMT with buffs... I need to take a break from Paradox I ended up playing way more than I intended.
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>>579639236
TrTr did it multiple times already. He obliterated defense strats into chaos as the most famous example.
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>>579636328
>>579636449
Here's a better question: Why would you remove the MGQ from Cecil's story? It gives us a bit more Alma, it gives us the perspective of another hero in the world, and also has Luka getting raped by a moth girl. Sure, you could make it a fully original story, but there's inherent value in making it a side story to MGQ.
>>579638926
When you say fanfiction do you mean specifically the plot of the fanfics? Like a compelling adventure story in the vein of the VN? Or maybe expansive worldbuilding? You can make plenty of simple mundane plots focused on the characters also, it's why things like coffee shop and High School AUs exist, because they focus on the characters and use the setting as a way to explore them and their relations. It's just happens the average fanfiction author sucks at actually writing the characters' personalities right.
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>>579639267
>autism grinding people
nta but i'm pretty sure those are mostly (not all, but mostly) HFY/iliasfags who hate monster girls in the first place and just wish it was a typical power fantasy
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>>579639584
>When you say fanfiction do you mean specifically the plot of the fanfics? Like a compelling adventure story in the vein of the VN? Or maybe expansive worldbuilding?
That specifically, yes. Snippet type fanfiction focused on vignettes of characters are an entirely different thing and not something I was considering for this conversation. Which I probably should've made more clear.
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>>579639114
Yes. The grinding and sheer RPG autism would have been enough.
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>>579637227
See Element Composition and Element Append in: https://gist.github.com/cratebox/d8ac39bf2fd88ef244472331e303ea9c#unsortednotes
Tl;dr Element Composition allows boosters of the relevant elements to stack multiplicatively and Element Append creates Element Composition between the base element and ALL the new ones. Luka's final trait has a 100% booster for Carnage, Eternal and Demise and appends them to Physical, meaning that now an attack with the Physical Element from Luka will do (1+[Physical Booster])x(1+[Carnage Booster])x(1+[Eternal Booster])x(1+[Demise Booster]) = (1+0)x(1+1)x(1+1)x(1+1) = 1x2x2x2 = 8 times the damage, minimum.
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>>579639445
>MGQ really ain't that deep
so it just wraps back around to that for you.
As I said, I can't agree with that. It's your opinion, sure, but not one I believe is accurate.
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>>579639584
>It's just happens the average fanfiction author sucks at actually writing the characters' personalities right.
I feel it's also that a lot of characters exist because of their specific situation and in a lot of highschool and coffee shop aus the character tends to be beaten into being the same as their canon counterparts without that really making much sense because this is an entirely different context
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>>579639578
He did end up making barriers a bit random in the third route yes.
His biggest nerf was the dualwielding though.
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>>579639918
What aspects of the setting make it stand out for you?
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>>579639626
So what you are saying is, Iliasfags are based, and you try to make it about hating Monster Girls and powerfantasy to cope.
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>>579639973
The amount of detail trtr put into the worldbuilding and the Monster Girls themselves. Even most "big studio" games don't put half as much effort into all the details as he did. The varying cultures and different mindsets/perspectives of the species and how they approach things, and their interactions with humanity and how they're perceived/stereotyped, and just the towns being very engaging in general. Even little stuff like the magic refrigerator inventions as a result of magic science being integrated into the world, or the whole heroism system and you being able to just take stuff being an acknowledged thing.

It and the character writing/interactions are trtr's biggest strengths when it comes to making MGQ stand out. The porn is unironically the weakest part, because trtr just isn't very good at writing porn.
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>>579639442
The most gacha part of the game is the powercreep characters being able to solo the game.
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>>579640346
While I agree with you here, a lot of this exists in specifically *paradox* and isn't really in the VN, of which was the subject of argument. No one was arguing that paradox was a shallow setting at all, just that it's a bit bloated and therefore kind of difficult to make fanfic of due to having to spend 300 hours minimum with it.
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>>579640346
for the record: plenty of this stuff is also done comedically, but I don't think that detracts from it at all. It's good either way.
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>>579640418
That could be applied to a lot of games, that happened even before gachas were around
>>579640134
no, but thanks for outing yourself lol
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>>579640652
>no u
Really dude?
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>>579640504
It is in the VN, just not as much as it is in Paradox since Paradox allowed him to do even more of it. But it's still present. It's part of why I got invested in it back then, honestly.



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