Visual Novel General #7843This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.Kindly use spoiler tags appropriatly when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:1. Be in Japanese locale2. Read the Readme3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL5. Google it>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.pnghttps://github.com/marisukukise/japReader>Need a novel with a specific element?https://vndb.org/g>Download Links:https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-linksPrevious thread: >>579374672
Anime girls look better when they have a defined nasal bridge.
>>579399959
Tohno Shiki vs Spiderman who wins
Thoughts on childhood fiends?
>>579400119My favorite heroine likes to roleplay as a childhood friend.
Anyone looking forward for the patch that merges both versions of Dies Irae? I know I am.
>totsuraba doesn't boot on linuxit's over
>>579400119we hate them here
What are the best vns with unredeemable evil heroines?
>>579400190For context: https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/1vvkghy/dies_irae_at_first_i_was_just_combining_all_the/
Ge where your female bully becomes your lover???
>>579400278fate extra
>>579400190Is that a thing?
>>579400278Muramasa
zakO
>>579400278*That you can fuck multiple times.I forgot that important detail.
>>579400323vibecoded aisloppa
>>579400278
Irae never dies
>>579400327Mojika
The only heroine I cared about in DI was Kei
>>579400193>missing Akane's greatest jokengmi
Ge where the MC shoots one or more heroines?
>>579400524There were no girls I cared about in DI. They were all completely forgettable.
>>579400552Ge? This looks kino.
>>579400119You can see the muvluv influence here
>>579400627A true classic:https://vndb.org/v9
>>579400627https://vndb.org/v9
>>579400552the kamige of all kamigeshttps://vndb.org/v5154
>>579399959Rusalka a SHIT
>>579400541I'm too slow for mystery stuff ok.
What would you do if another man drugged your childhood friend and started playing with her pussy in front of you?
Give me a pic to use in the new tier list that will be between those 2
>>579400667>sex with others simulatorYou know how it goes, whats redeeming about this ge? I need you to sell me on it i cant just read some ntrslop.Plot? Edgy mc? Hopefully romance is not the focus.
>>579400552LiL
https://vndb.org/r164368It's up.
>>579400807Genuflect
Sei GODjo
>legal disclaimer translatedthis MOGS lmao trans alreadyalso i fixed it with 1 launch command, vnwiki is retarded as always
>>579400807Bro
>>579400824Are you a tourist who can't fathom the idea of a VN having good sex scenes instead of vanilla slop that puts everyone to sleep?
>>579400824Saeki is one of the best heroines I've ever seen in a VN.
>>579400327Kinkoi
>>579400807
>>579400935Im not a cuck, why are you so mad.
>>579400819
>>579400819Check an Angel Beats CG gallery
>>579400985you're not a japanese teenager boy, so yes you are a cuck.
>We were merely fighting to protect our Fatherland.Chat... Is this real???
this looks like a low effort mobile game menu
>>579400985You're supposed to self insert as the girl silly
So why exactly did FrontWing make this all-ages again?
>>579400205I read it on Linux thoughbeit
>>579400997It looks nice... but it feels like it belongs to a higher tier... + I already got R07 right there, doesn't it feel wrong to have 2 tiers from the same guy?....
>>579401098HFK.This will be a very fun blogpostation>this looks like a low effort mobile game menuSoul..
>>579400824The VN centers on a Satanist sex cult, so there's a lot of rape and group sex. You should play it because it's a life-changing VN.
>>579400807Rape. Both.
>>579399959Cute Kurisu ripoff
wtf is this trigger warning and why are they like this?
>>579401207Moebutas often have melties if the MC has a voice.
>>579400807He needs to be uglier, fatter, and older, or else I don't feel cucked at all.
the patch itself looks flawless so far
Why is the general so active? It's a Monday morning
>>579401327>he doubted Alsir
>>579401327which one are u blogging
>>579400871Yes.
>>579401276I always self insert and idc if mc has voice or heckerino personality. Those are fakes have the need mc to look like them 1:1 which is obviously impossible.
I always self insert as the girl
>>579401403Cus you are a cuck, bitch ass cracka~
holy shounenshit
>>579400278There was a guy here long ago who used to shill Aku Onna Kanbu. He was so good at shilling that now I wanna read it>MTL whenAnyway apparently you can be on side of the villains in it
>>579401436Unironically you need to self insert as the girl if you play a NTR ge. Otherwise it's anti-art
>>579401327ugly font
I will make an r/visualnovels "Eroge players are like crack addicts" thread. It will BTFO all porn-addict mongs... it will be glorious~~~~ To write it, I need to finish a nukige session first, so I think it will take me some time because I just spent lots of hours over the last couple of days reading nukige, and I'm so bored of them.
>>579400807DUL do you always post this scene because you self-insert into the lowlife subhuman behind Imari?
new banner????>>579401369aisir's. the only reason i'm reading this sloppa
>giving up on this smoking hottie for mitsukiIs Takayuki retarded
neee~~~imaaaaa~~~
>>579401098They don't call it Totino Lovers for nothing
>>579401571When I read NTRge, I only care about how hot the girls are and how degraded they are, like fucking animals, hobos, and stuff like that. The MC may as well not exist for me.
>>579401606kek it really looks like a banner illustration now that u mention it
>my first crush>look her name up in the name register>Le gasp>tfw her name is Oretsuba
>>579401662I want to break that cup on her head
HFKKKKKKKKKKK>>579401595i like it, it gives a retro/digital-ish vibe
>>579401597>I don't like Okino Hitozuma because I have shit taste and I hate good things! I'm Dul!>Oh also, I play hypnosis shit!Dul peasant...
>>579401454I think you mean chuuni. And you should look at this. (My favorite character has an anti-country NP.)
>>579401662He should have went for the green nurse instead.
>>579401683Sounds like a cope, dont that shit usually keep focusing on mcs thoughts even if its third person.
>>579401479How good is AI/MTL at comedy ge? I don't remember anything too punny/untranslatable but it would have to get the tone of the game spot on to work imo.
>>579401767nasu is such a retarded faggot with all this bloat
uwaaa who's this cute? i hope she has an h-scene otherwise i will stop blogposting>>579401767chuuni and shounenshit are the same thing
>>579401745>>579401606that font is fucking godawful
>>579401869Nasu is a genius.
Gojo won btw
>>579401907This
>Date Haruka>Call her father otou-san>Hang out with Akane>Keep Mitsuki as mindbroken onaholeIsn't this logically the best ending for KimiNozo?
>>579401834Hard to say, there shouldn't be much of an issue with the big models but you might have to stop and ask about a fucked up pun sometimes?
I know floodblud has been spamming a gay furry EVN for the last weeks but that's no reason to spoil Totsuraba for him. Just a friendly reminder
>>579401895there's actually a fix to enlarge ruby text, i might try it. besides that i don't know why you're seething about that, looks ok to me. better that the monospace sloppa from MAO's cc that's for sure
>>579401785In the ones I read, the H-scenes are always from the girl's POV. It's very hard to self-insert into the MC when they make him almost nonexistent.Netorare is more about the corruption aspect most of the time.
>>579402027Post your favourite ntrge so I can blogpost it.
I think Gatenkei is required reading. Its 1st ending kills you, its 2nd ending heals you
https://x.com/clip_celsys/status/2094346911214104843
>there's no reason not to bully floodblud all the timeyes there is
wtf she started talking about me for no reason>>579402020>shouneshit spoilersGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGplease spoiler me totsuraba, onagai aisir! actually you know what? time to post more gay furrykino instead, this was just a test to see if the patch works
>>579402021I am not "seething" lil bro, I'm telling the truth. It already is pixelated, the font needs to be changed cause it appears not to be made for latin alphabet. It is giving me eyesore just from taking a glance. I'm not ruining my eyes for some mtl garbage lamo
>>579401602RETARD, I didn't post that and didn't even take a screenshot for this scene... it was super cringe. But I remember writing this:->>574696420 >>574696634 >>574696809 Which btw I did before I reached to this scene... just shows you how much eroge writers are predictable T-T>>579401757Who said I like this ge?..... I just didn't drop it because it got more VAs I like and also because the protagonist is not a fucking child, and also because the heroines are not ugly unself-insertable hags... good reasons, but you will keep crying because you are a pig, male pig retard faggot shitter boy.
>>579402253Damn instant melty
Is Akane gay??
Why are you all obssessed with Dimension Sloppa?>zoomer-tier artagh, never mind I asked
>>579400278lessons in love
>>579402329which ge
>>579402276well that's too bad. wait 5 more years for the official MTL while i'll keep reading aisirKINO with literally 0 issues
>>579402360Don't reply to my posts ever again.
>>579402360Thank you bro I guess I will
WTF IS HAPPENING.
>>579402349to be fair lnslop is an underexplored niche for vns
>>579402360Surely you are not referring to Ami when you say that.
>>579402349>In a dying industry considered a expired corpse of a bygone era (eroge)>A new title releases>Not a sequel, no established big name megastudio behind it, no mass marketing, no hololive vtuber shill deal, no shared universe, absolute brand spanking new IP>It's sold out across the nation in record time>To the point it made national news on the telly of all things>Developer even made emergency announcement that they will restock copies asap>discussion on 5chan ignites >As always, /vn/ remains clueless about anything outside their bubbleStay clueless /vn/ and keep posting about when does far side release like the normalfag you are.
>>579402253>onagaiUh oh! BabyJOP alert!
this ge reeks of sloppa
HFKKKKKKKKKK
>>579402586Yeah but it looks like shitLiterally Hoyoverse tier
You just know he watches Bakugan
>I'm the same age as the designated hagnothing wiped the smile off my face faster than this
>>579402691GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
>>579402253>onagai
i'm sorry but i can take any of this seriously
>>579402691>Bakuganmy first waifu, I started crying because she didn't exist when I was a kid
Current blogposts: -WA2 (MAO)-DTL (AIsir)-LiL (Selebus)-Dissonance (L_Elyot)Gentlemen. The score
>>579402749Her first h-scene was kinda hot though
I always find it funny how floodog is easily the biggest attention whore in this general, yet he doesn't get called out for it as much as the other attention whores (AIsir and the FGOcucks, for example). Like, you would always see him commenting in every vndb topic, even the ones he doesn't know shit about, just so that he can post the link to his comment here and pretend like someone else is noticing him.... or when he started here, he was spamming cropped pics of his shitty tier list pretending like it actually mattered when it was the most succufed shit I have ever seen and then he confessed that he didn't even make the ranks and he just vibe-coded the vndb ratings and made them look like a tier list with some alterations he did so that he wouldn't get caught... or when the MAO drama started and he had to comment on everything happening regarding it and do comparisons, and when Qu*f or whatever other lolcow gave him some attention? He started spamming those comparisons and doing it for all of their works for free, spending hours of his totally "precious" time doing... nothing?..... or how he is always going for the new AI translations of the famous vns to not miss out on the talks happening here, feeling like he needs to do that or he will not belong here, never going for anything unique or special for himself... and when he does that? It will always be some nothingburger 2-hour vn that he read just to bloat his vndb finished numbers, or furry weird shit just so that the retards here would comment about them and give him attention, or just to annoy everyone and force them to curse him, also giving him attention... A really weird fella... Like, am an only child, and I still have the dignity to be myself and not force myself into every discussion and topic, and only focus on the things I truly like.... so why is he, a Balkan person, like this?.... Aren't they, human?.... Just weird and perplexing...
>>579402914GACHA>never used or mentioned againmhm
kek, here she is>>579403012sorry dull but i already have a gf
New thesis dropWe will be reading
>>579402914>too cynical to enjoy a storyI'm sorry for you loss anon
>>579403012Kill yourself verminHe's one of the better anons here
>>579402586Lost to oppai and yuzukino award.
>>579403138>too high iq for badly written 0-stakes shounenshitIDBLT....
>>579403012This is all correct btw
>>579403213stupid bocchi the rock vn sucks
>>579403012floodlings... how are we going to respond?
>am an only child, and I still have the dignity to be myself and not force myself into every discussion and topicweirdly high intellectthat's a good point, people with siblings tend to be less attention-whorey
>>579403213totsureba is already six months old anon. No shit it isn't topping the charts like it did when it released.
marco to ginga ryuu tier writing (aka weeb rick and morty)
>>579402687Hoyoverse designs look like THIS
>>579403216>Reading an AIsloppa translation>Thinks the ge is badAnon..
>>579403012>Isn't he a Balkan person?Yes he's from Albania. He fought in the Bosnian War (1992-1995)
>>579403513MOGs every JVN, /vn/MONGs lost
>>579403520the tl is good tho? it's linnysloppa even in japanese
When was the last time something of value was posted on this general?
after all the gayshit i've been reading i think the mc is the hottest character so far and i wanna cuddle with him, he's very cute~!
Hanachirasu was very kino.I'm very excited for Kaigen's Ambition and Kaigen Seito, but I'm leaving that for some other time. The ending that lead to that was HFK.
>>579403709see>>579403012
>>579403709Whatever the most recent LiL screenshot was.
>>579403709ABkang exposing floodturd was fun
>>579403796>play gayshit>turn bievery time
>>579403796Honestly yeah he'd look cute in women's clothes
>Feelings of guilt, depression and thinking about Haruka>Bluewhore notices MC is drifting towards Haruka>Proceeds to force herself on himWhat a BITCHThe B in Blue stands for Bitch!
>>579403012HFKKKKKKKK
>>579403709See >>579401706
>>579403709See>>579402153
>>579399959Blablabla ... where the fuck are SaDistic Babylon, Fraternite, Niku tributes. Did you know the "dark yuri" Manakashi has guro badends like gss but much much badder? Whoever was translating this shit until 2023 should just publish what they have so we can finish it using MTL.
>>579403805The song it played there was the OP from thishttps://vndb.org/v433https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6RqC9CfR_E
>>579403012>it's jelous
>>579403921All's fair in love and war
>>579403431Oppai bunny is over a year old.LLLJ is 1 year old.Saint Dorei Gakuen 3 is 1 year old.COPE
aisir...won?
>>579403012tl;dr
>>579403012You forgot to mention how he makes the most unfunny memes and edits (AI), and samefags his posts for hours to make them seem funny lel
>>579403995Thank you anon, I was about to look for itThat VN looks kino
>>579403796
>fag MC with facewe shan't be reading
>>579404281how does every girl in a 10 meter radius avoid creaming themselves around him
honestly, he shouldāve been the protagonist.
>>579404224ge?
i already hate her
Liquid, Black Lilith, or Bishop?>pic unrelated
>>579404703Mio would've won
>>579402586This ritualpost has intense tourist energy. Good for baiting out rage, I approve.
>>579404803You need to tell us first what type of rape-baby you are so that we know which one of those we would recommend
yes game, thanks for reminding of the scene happened literally 5 minutes ago, my zoomer brain already forgot about it
>>579404890wdym what type
>>579404847What the hell happened here
>This ritualpost has intense tourist energy. Good for baiting out rage, I approve.
>>579404903isn't ur font bugging out?
Why is the nasudrone trying to trash a real kamige like totsureba all of a sudden
>>579404903>that MTLuhm aisir??????????????
>>579404803Bishop
Why is the sissy always complaining
>I am the bone of my mumbai>Shit is my body, and piss is my blood>I have created over a thousand rape-babies>Unknown to their Mothers,>Nor known to Me.>Have withstood erection to create many type-shitters>Yet, those hands will never hold any women>So as I pray, Unlimited Type-Shit Drones.
>>579404803sharing is caring, so Liquid
What's wrong with being a sissy tho
>>579404803Bishop except Ochiru which annihilates every Bishopge
Holy kino
>>5794050150 self-awareness award
>>579405126I blame heteronormativity
totsushit*
>>579405230it's amazing how many vn's would be fixed without heteronormativity
>>579405356And stay out
>>579405430>copypasted spritesholy low effort
>>579405490Sprites in general are low effort
>>579404989>Wasn't that the name of the girl I, just moments ago.>āāHad fallen for at first sight?Blame the japanese for making an awkward stop there.
>>579405805uhm no, i'll blame whoever localized it in a broken english sentencememes aside it looks like great tl/patch but the ge itself looks like the equivalent of a big mac
>>579405663true, koikatsu models are superior
cooking.....
>>579405734Comedy peaked here
Are there any good sick lit VNs?
Ou Jackson is lowkey the greatest writer of all time but don't tell the Ryukishit fags that
HOLY FUCKING ORETSUBAAAAAAAAA
>>579406389I want to have sexual intercourse with Natsume Anan
>>579406262Kanon
I want to have sexual intercourse with Hiroko Taguchi
>>579405965It does at least get better than what that cringe start would suggest and ends up pretty memorable, but dunno if I'd continue long enough to find out if not for Katan
Boo!
>>579406831Coquita
vnshite is so irrelevant that vnmakers are copying gacha designs now lmao. total gachakino victory.
>>579406194I don't know if I'd say they're superior but they have their own unique benefits that you can't get with regular art. Both things excel in different ways. Of course that's dependent on actually using them well. Sprites on a background is pretty lame, though. One of the downsides of drawn CGs is that you can't depict very much with them due to budget/time constraints and get forced into using sprites a lot of the time.
Finished my daily quota in Deadlock... gotta prepare myself for that release and the visual novel story mode ^-^>>579403130Naaah, I don't need to do anything else other than what our detectives have already one... every lolcow got rightfully exposed~
>start posting 3 days after being mass deleted
>>579400119Made for sex with others. Same with NBRs
Good afternoon /vn/ hope alls well
Am still asking for a pic suggestion, help me fl**d and I will not BTFO you and expose you and make fun of you again like that and make you the laughing stock of /vn/ for this month
>>579407301Based cuckCHAD
Oretsuba
>>579407545worse than reddit but better than typeshit? that's hard.... lessons in love? wegshit? patreon scams? that's a hard one, i need to think....
Only Persona can save /vn/ now...
only me can save /vn/ now...
>5h codex limitgod i hate open ai REMOVE THE FUCKING 5H LIMIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>579407731I will give you today to think, I need to post it tomorrow so come up with something for me by then.>>579407745Bring me a comment from Maeda-sensei complemning Persona 1 and I will blogpost all of the series for /vn/. INB4 "How can I find it?" I found his old blogs in the Key site when he was making Angel Beats! and I discovered that he used to like P3 and P4...
>>579407910Foids are too retarded for P1 or 2. You can start with the casualized remake of 3 though.
>sequence diagramHFKKKKKKKKKKKKK
I said that I can't start a series without going for their first game. This is why I went for Baldrhead instead of Baldr sky like the rest of the tourists like (You), now fuck off and fuck off and fuck off.
>persona 1>first game of the seriesuhm, should we tell xim?
flood melty
engine status: patchedwordwrap status: functional
>Playing KimiNozo>Picking choices to head onto the Haruka route>Game keeps slamming H scene after H scene of the blue WHORE my wayCan this SLUT justJUSTGET OUT OF THE FUCKING WAY!?
>flood pretending that he got IQ and having a melty over anons calling his bluffWe all know about the Shin Megami Tensei. You are really pathetic, you know? with a personality like that, no women will ever accept you... unless you are into men, then you are probably going to find a fine gentlemen (boat driver) who will gladly tuck you at night very kindly (rape your butt until he inject his Somali genes into you somehow)
Why are people freely allowed to screenshot Steins Gate Reboot on Steam but I canāt take any screenshots of the game after Chapter 1 or anything in the extras menu on my Switch 2??
>>579408365Just do Akane's route so you can cuck both of them.
>>579408429Because Nintendo
>>579408398>shincute secondary
I'm going to take my car to the mechanic and then I'm gonna blogpost Persona 5.See you bros.
>>579408467>Not going for the ultimate wifeAre you blind
>>579408538sissy prose, you deserve to be dicked by my dark boat driver bebesea, get that tight anus right here you manslut fucking whore
>>579408365Mitsuki has as much h-scenes as the rest of the cast put together.
>>579408324?
>>579408365Its starting to make sense why sumika gets THAT scene
>>579408730patching kamige https://vndb.org/v19216
>>579408725>Deranged mentally ill desperate whore has the most h sceneswow you don't say. next thing you'll tell me she sleeps with other men.
>>579408429Lmao at a nintoddler.
>>579408646Maybe you'll change your mind after you get to the middle school Akane route.
>>579408785oh, that one
Amakano 2?
>>579409045Check the color shades and their order.
>>579409045
>>579399961>I assume Muramasa will be even betterHaha... don't tell him
>>579409045https://vndb.org/v37716baby shark
>>579409150>>579409158>mfw it's the shark VN
FLAWLESS text-wrap
umiNEGRO melty
>>579408785Holy shit, nice. MTL?
>They're gonna un-JOP the shark JOP bastard
NEGROmasa melty
>>579399959Gentle femdom VNs you recommend?
How come the type-shitters are the only ones that are buttheart from the JOP-sama? is it related to them being Indians?
>>579409501no, it's a japanese native on fiverr who will translate it very fast for me without using MTL, i trust himthe text you see now is mtl just to test the wordwrap
>>579409610Coquimba Chronicleshttps://vocaroo.com/18RsfoRtX2GF
>>579409675Damn I love these industrious japs
>checked for shit and giggle >17bbabysharkchads...I-I kneel
>>579402487>>579402641ENTER
>>579409695kek wtf
>>579409695KEEEEEK WE NEED THIS ANIMATED
>Mitsuki >Shit girlfriend>Never really paid attention to MC needs>Refuses to do anything beyond missonary, no blowjob no doggy nothing>Love rival wakes up>Notices MC is starting to drift to Haruka>She panics>Starts to desperately throw herself at MC>Sex, anal, blowjobs the works>Insists to MC that she's willing to do anything>Starts to cook proper dinners instead of her old slop>Start to do housework>Start to finally pay attention and dote on MC>i.e She was a dogshit girlfriend the entire time because she was complacentTell me why am I supposed to root for this stupid bitch again?
>>579409831>check itwhy.this doesn't even look like something that'd interest kids
>>579409695sides lost
Release date announced and the demo is out!https://no-strike.jp/yuriarashi/en/download.html>[Trap Yuri Tempest] Steam release date confirmed! & Demo update>The release date is 26 September at 9.00 am (25 September at 17:00 PDT).>Please download the demo from the Steam store page or the official website!
>file.png>the most cringe and useless post in the threadAlways... guess am finally adding it to the filter list right next to image.png and file.jpg
>>579409695coquimbros..... not like this..........................
>>579409935>get myself spoiledokay but at least it bumps the game up my log
>>579410006HFK
>>579410010>too coward to (you) the post directlyyour loss anyway no fun faggot
What was the last VN that made you feel like this?
>>579410010funny because i think it's the only file.png that wasn't made by me
>>579410010image.png is always high quality posts tho
>>579410006We will be reading
>Sully.png>the most cringe and useless post in the threadAlways... guess am finally adding it to the filter list right next to Mike.png and boo.jpg
>>579409610>Gentle femdomThe worse of both worlds.
>>579409045This kills the certain translator that posts on /vn/.
Should I use this Screenshot for my tier list or just the imouto sad face (only 2 pics I saved from this kusoge)... hmmmmmm
MUMBAImasa
>>579409501>>579409825Bro is trolling you. Obviously it's MTL, he said he would be MTLing it in another thread.
>>579410074>When all else fails>Decide to dick down every two bit john she can find just to ragebait MC for attentionI hate this whore so much it's unreal.
KINOmasa
>>579401454ShounenKINO*
>>579410425this, anonymous said that so it must be true
>>579410425no way.... I trusted him...
>>579402691HFK
>>579410465Sumika is so cute
It's Murasame Monday.
I love Anan
>>579409360Careful not to have your work marked as mtl just cause of this shitposting bro
>>579410591She totally is. Loyal too unlike a certain blue haired whore.
>>579410425>it's afraidi'm coming for your untranslatable kamige lil bro>>579410636it's no secret that i'm the one patching games. the final text will be completely different from that screenshot so there's nothing to worry about
>>579408641We are all looking forward to your blogposts.
>>579409172inbred shitposter
>>579410787meant for >>579410709
>>579410787OI!
>>579410663loyal to alien cum lol
>>579410926Lmao
>EUriners hoursBalkan is a part of EUrine right?... it explains a lot why that thing is as retarded as them.... btw, Fallstreak 2 MOGs every single ge posted here~
>>579410926>>579410970Seethe meiyafag
One more day for kamige...
>KYOJINTACHI: The Departed OnesHFKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>579411025Pic not related
>>579411025Is it that time for the quarterly content update for the Patreon scam that will never be finished?
>>579410926DIE
>>579408324Which model is this? It feels a little worse than Sol. skill issue?
>>579411147it is really funny that this is the only argument you have against LiL since it's just obviously false
>>579402253>>579402626>>579402914looks decently proofread, dialogue flows naturally. yeah I think I'm reading this MTL
>>579411147Monthly update for the superkamige that will be finished*
What are all the VNs that Flood translated?
>>579411329More like superkusoge
>>579411324It's poorly written garbage that can't even have an artist make real assets for it. I just love pointing out how retarded paypiggies are for supporting these scam games
>>579411192>no jp to compare topray tell how did u divine this
>>579411151https://litter.catbox.moe/y54n1g5sjwidsduo.jpeg
>>579411464>It's poorly written garbageIt has better writing than literally any jap vn tho.
>>579411464>paypiggiesIt's free.
>>579411464it's a free game, the longest vn ever written, and has over 40,000 cgs, which no amount of hiring an artist could hope to match, and the writing is more consistently enjoyable than any jvn. try again
Half of the mockery against LiL here has about the impact of someone shouting B-BLACKED! MUMBAIMASA! UMINEGRO! as everyone else ignores them and keeps reading their superkamige. Shouting crude superficial insults will only win you points with other pigs, the humans are unbothered.
>>579407545I already gave you one >>579395305>flooddo not offend me like this
>>579411151holy shit she's so fucking soulless in the anime>>579411192sol medium, it's good enough for patching games. i quickly skimmed through the script and it mistranslated some stuff, like localizing å«åÆéØ as alchemy instead of "Confidential Affairs Division" or similar (which sol HIGH does on the other hand). also according to vndb fellas this is a very hard vn to read in jp, though it doesn't looks like that from the first scene, it's just nvl wordslop
>>579411025I can't wait
>/vn/ spamming canon NTR heroines AKA the Muv-Luv whore that is cucks-codedYou really need to grow some taste... and maybe a pair of balls on your way, fucking cucks~
>>579411751Look at your own image
zoomcorders melty
>>579399959Rusalka a cute!
>>579411714nvl wordKINO*
>>579411341officially? https://vndb.org/v18914 and https://vndb.org/v39081
>>579411751A lot of kamige is NTR coded. You act like that's some insult
>>579411639AI cant compete with this abomination of a drawing, whoever drew this is sick in the head
>>579410596MURASAMBAIEEEEEEEEEEE
>>579411705It is very bad, very very very bad.... I already got a nothingburger tier, I can't make 2 burger tiers!
>>579411025>>579411329SOON
>>579411639Not my proudest fap
>>579409831>17B viewsaren't there like 9 B people in the world?
>>579411639Yeehaw!
>>579411854You wish, muramasa is not kamige and never will be. Cuck.
>>579411465>>579411714I was referring purely to the English fluidity not accuracy. It repeats "such" in two sentences quickly, and is too beholden to the Japanese style of starting with "but," "besides," "So," creating poor flow. The first paragraph also has middling connection between sentences "It was such an insignificant incident... Naturally, being such a trivial matter..." - it would be better as "that I could barely remember it, and naturally as a consequence it was easily resolved." or some such.Somewhat amazingly I just feel like I am used to a little better from Sol - and also Claude Opus, though when testing its prose lately I use Opus at Max effort which would be a relative waste of tokens for a big project. Accuracy is not a question, I will just guess off the cuff it's 100% accurate because that's what I expect at this point too. Overall this reads about like a mid-level translator instead of a surprisingly high level translator. Which is not bad but I expected a little better.
>>579410596best day of the week
>>579412049Made for Rokuhara soldiers cock.
>I'm paying very close attention to the filename
>>579411986The rest is bots
>>579411986each watch of the video is a new view
detr00n melty
KINOmasa.
>>579412049Oppai
>>579411797Your lack of reading comprenesion is not on me to solve. Multiple anons and even the /vn/'s book stated that totono got no canon NTR at all. Same with Saya no Uta, same with all of the other Nitroplus games, they dabble with those themes, but the NTR is not canon.>>579411854You being a cuck is not on the medium, this is just your own personal taste and disability.
>>579412142kektoo white
>>579412138malding uminegro
>>579409695HFKKKKKK
>>579412041bro i'm not defending sol medium. also there was pretty much no prompt to translate those, it did so just for testing in the middle of codeslopping the engineshould this be a lesson that simply slapping GPT 5.6 Sol doesn't mean a lot (though it still better than an amateur fantler that's for sure)
>>579412142that's quof
>>579412138negromasa delusion
>>579412395Sure. I was just giving my input. I don't know what opinion you have on these subjects.
>>579412378>>579412486>he doesn't knowP R O C E E D
>>579411813"In the midnight when all things sleep.How joyous to leave the watery deep!With our heads we break the water's face, how delightful to play and make the waves race!We make the clear air ring, back and forth our voices we fling, letting our luxuriant, wet hair flyāHow delightful to play and let it dry!"The bestest
P R O C E E D
>>579409919we already have the manga version
>>579412642kekfunny because it's canon
>>579412642>put him in a leash>offer his bussy to a pack of swarthy goatsBeatroon is so evil
>>579412571>Mizuhi with the bandits>Ichijo with Rokuhara soldiers >Kanae with old GHQ men>Muramasa with random MushaIs there a single pure Muramasa girl left?
>English """poetry"""
>>579412721KEK make a soundpost
>>579412642That scene is an allegory. >>579412571That scene is canon.
The most unsettling part of MTL is how fluid and strong he prose is. In truth, I have really high standards for English prose in that I get uncomfortable whenever I read amateurish prose: I fear that reading shit prose will infect my subconscious verbal processing and make my own writing more shit. And, in contrast, I feel undue pleasantness from reading good prose because I feel it is impacting my subconscious positively. This is probably like 80% fake, but it significantly impacts my choice of reading material and is partially why I generally maintain a hard rule for reading no translations; the average translator is just a dogwater writer and makes me feel like reading their prose will make me a worse writer too. I avoid them and look for English-original writers that give me some fuzzy pleasantness with their high quality prose.And Sol's prose is genuinely so fluid I get that fuzzy pleasant feeling for quite a few lines. There's some awkwardness at times for sure, like when it's trying too hard to reflect an idiomatic phrase or what have you, but the average line here is so very well-written in a way you may have to be really locked into writing otounderstand. That's partially why I'm genuinely feeling a little drawn to just keep reading the Amakano 3 MTL. It's not unlike finding a translation done by an extremely skilled writer. Accuracy aside (though the accuracy is solid too), this is where Shiravune flagged in comparison; on a line-by-line basis one could already see the clunkiness and amateur clumsiness creeping in for their lines. It's just hard to write lines with perfect fluidity one after another whilst also being drawn into dark patterns by Japanese sentence structure. Reading most human TLs, especially for VNs, just feels so bad I could die too. But this... It feels almost as sweet as the scent of the flesh golems themselves...
>>579412805Chach->girlNo.
>>579412640forgothttps://youtu.be/GG-SpxG7mJEhttps://youtu.be/pjodRv0EB1s
>>579412642Uminegros are the biggest cucks in this general.
>>579412721this anon >>579409695 already did
>>579412805Forgot>Hikaru with Rokuhara soldierssince Troonchamaru pimped out her unconscious body to his men
>>579412642>T-that scene is an a-allegory!
>>579412815Poetry is so cool.
KIMIKAAAAAA!!!
HFORETSUBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>579412826this>>579412926
>>579412960Kek, so this is what westoid lgbtq+ supporters consider kamige?
Who's that pokemon?
>>579412524also since were are doing this>>579412395original>>579408324sol mid no promptpic related is sol high, no particular prompt
>>579413008LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL
>>579413074they shill uminegro to groom kids to become trans
>>579412960UMINEGRO HAS AN ANIME?!
>>579413107Stop what you're doing and finish the Low Spec translation
>>579413075konoka desu
>>579412852It could get even much better in theory, a limiting factor so far is that there is no simple verification loop for good prose. Like with code you easily set up a loop where "code compiles without bugs" creates an automated reward signal in the training process. This is obviously more difficult to set up when the criterion is the pleasantness of the prose.
>>579413238>lolishitno one cares subhuman
I hate being the only intellectual being in this shithole...
>>579413229everyone forgot about it cause it was even worse than the vn and ended up being a giant humiliation ritual for r07 and his uminegroids
>>579413107Having read the Japanese now the original text itself is kind of, well, poorly written in such a way to encourage the LLM to translate it in a similarly poor way, so I am not as harsh. This Sol high is a bit better though.
>>579413229And also a JAV
Thank you Mr. Altman.
>>579413286I care.
>"anon, lolis are pretty much children-coded and traced based on them... and in most cases, they would behave like real children and the media that present them creates scenario that makes you a child rapist if you went for them and they will act indeed as children getting raped... you spamming them is pretty much the same as spamming CP...">the retarded pedophiles proceeds to spam more pictures of them just confirming the whole idea even moreBut this is really not going to affect any of us normal human beings. We will not get filtered from 4chan, we've been here for years and saw the worst that can be seen. What you are doing is just proving to us what a subhuman you are and making us laugh at how curry-coded you are. This is why Japan is literally India #2, only them would also go this hard on embracing pedophilia... you guys proved it to us xD
>>579413107>>579413326this is extra high, i only asked to make it flow better.
>>579413365
>>579413697
>>579413481But LiL is made by an American
brownoid melty
>MTLWon. It's so for JOPonia.
>>579409045>>579409150>>579409158Moeanon....
>>579413172>>579413209Shes quite cute
>>579413859Oretsuba WILL be read
>>579413770No wonder it's terrible
>>579413496and finally, a quof special: this is gpt-5.6-sol max. NOBODY uses this because this shit is very token-hungry and it's objectively not worth using 99% of the time. in the prompt i asked it to translate this as Alexander O Smith would (i like that it included Thus which i guess is more fitting for ć§ćć but i'm just a JEP so who knows)astra should be better and it will drop this thursday. at that point, honestly i will stop caring about the MTL tag on vndb, as long as assets are edited and the game is proofread, it will be better that anything we'll get officially or not
>>579413862Imagine the number of cocks he has to suck at this point
>>579413848Meant for >>579413401
>>579403709A partial patch for a mareni work was just posted in the last thread.
>>579413935>t. pic rel
Based AI-jeet. Need AI patches for all japshit so-called kamiges to be exposed as garbage.
>There won't be any more localizations it will all be machine pure accuracyWe hate this. We love localizer flavour (because the original text is shit)
rapes u
For me, it's Undercover: The Red Path
For me, it's Oretsuba.
I think it's kinda silly when you all simp for VNs because "it sold a lot bro" and then read literal gacha shit
>>579414061many have been waiting for this moment>>579414067just ask ai to add flavor? kinda funny how it decided to backup the best version in order to make the meme one instead of just overwriting it like it did before kek
For me, it's oppai.
>>579414067Don't worry, they'll produce an accurate translation then have editor-kun go over it to add in the memes.
>>579414307Some of my favorite VNs didn't sell a lot or are free, though
>>579414426unironically better than the original text
>>579414458
>>579414426HFKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKi would unironically read any slop if it was localized like this
>>579414307All while the greatest VN of all time is a free EVN.
Imagine spending 10 years learning dogshit language to play vns to be BTFO by an Indian with AI. Absolute state of JOPs.
>>579414603Yeah, Dissonance is a masterpiece
>https://files.catbox.moe/m5eexl.pngWhen did sloppa become so good?
Ohh!! RAT Subarashi~~ suba.
>>579410591>>579410663>>579411013Touch-starved NEET losers will never understand the greatness of the childhood friend
>>579414758I laughed in real life (not really)
>>579414758>weekend over>still no 10/10 reviewEmbarrassing
>>579414798>that shitty coloring on her bodynah
>>579414818We love watching our childhood friends having sex with others!
>>579414818I only like good childhood friends (so not SHITmika)
>>579414943sumikasissy...
LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL
>>579414798looks the same shit as 3 years ago
>>579414928If he wrote the review it might spoil you on it and since you're totally going to read it since it's so great then he can't do that.
>>579414818Is this your new LARP? Life's so shit you need to force ragebait discussions and the only joy you find in life is rushing to post your own OP? Escapism only works for so long. Face reality, faggot.
>>579414698non issue for people who love japanese, only people who work in translation and jizzat-guzzling babyjops seethe about mtl. people who learned japanese because they wanted to read in japanese will be fine until direct language uploads to the brain in less than 10 years
>>579415097Reality is gay. I hate all humans.
>>579414943IDBLT
It's time. Persona time.ZAMN, goth baddies in my area?Woah, this is just like TikTok!
>>579415145>people who learned japanese because they wanted to read in japanese will be fineWe do be comfy.
>>579415097Bro the e in eroge stands for escapism
I feel hopeless that my life will never end. I never belived it even once.
>>579415213HFK
i think grok would've done a better job at being cringe, this is way too readable
Who THE fuck wants to live forever?!
>>579413926These are definitely better, though I think the AoS goes a bit too far. AoS is good not for his superficial style but, literally, the way he is a better writer than the nips in Squenix and can just wholly replace their text. A relatively extreme but relevant example would be translating "Lighthouse" as "Pharos," from Pharos of Alexandria. I won't say AI "can't" do that, but it won't be able to replicate what makes AoS good from a prompt like "translate this in AoS's style." It would be more like "throw out this text and write it to be better in the way AoS might" or something. And then the AI would need to be better in some fashion than the original text.Also, the big flaw that none of these managed to fix is that the passage starts with him č¦å“ing just to remember the event, then ends with him writing the report despite the č¦å“. So this passage should want to have the same word used at the start and end (like, "remembering it was an effort" --- "so, despite the effort involved, I..." ). But it seems like each Sol effort level didn't "notice" this and tl'd them differently each time.
>>579414943Just you mate>>579415002Like what>>579415097God forbid a man go outside, change your diaper toddlertard
>>579415323We need zoomer retranslations of all the classics
>>579415323Chud models are definitely the cringiest.
>>579415354me
>>579415354https://youtu.be/MTmDqf03W6s?si=c0TrqYZS-TAoJq0W
>>579415438kino
>>579415384>Good thing you escape your rapist father who was aiming to also rape you... but sadly? you didn't escape your uncle who fucked you 3 times when you were just an infant...If Saddam was still alive, NONE of that would've happened to me!!
>>579415384MHBST
>>579415354https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTmDqf03W6s
>>579414939>>579415062>https://files.catbox.moe/k5am9s.pngWell, it's new to me
>>579415383>These are definitely better, though I think the AoS goes a bit too farthat was just to show that with no "secret sauce" prompt, while thinking level actually change the output quite a lot, on the same model
>>579415592dang, what are you using?
>>579415619>that was just to show that with no "secret sauce" prompt...it can translate on the level of an average translator, if not higher* as you also said in your reddit rant. basically i'm dabbin on MAO tl
Ok if we're getting random ads without any mod intervention it's probably time to plan for the big collapse.
>>579415720NovelAI's latest model. I have no idea what I'm doing though
AI will never be able to properly translate Ou Jackson's sheer mastery of prose and language. There's a reason why it's still untranslated to this day. If humans can't do it, what makes you think a shitty AIsloppa can?
total JOP death
RIP JOPonia
>>579415961>Mode Furry
>>579415946>she doesn't have adblock
>>579415963We WILL be blogposting
>>579415062It couldn't even generate proper images 3 years ago, larper bro.
SEXOOOO
>>579416125so... the same as that image he posted?
>still allows pictures in his 4chanxNGMI~
I regret not telling Leianon to go to Atami during his vacation to Japan.
>>579416161If you're blind, sure
>the doujinsloppa is voicedwoah i didn't expect that
We have but one message for the JOPs: We're here, we're queer, and we're MTLing all the kamige!
ORETSUBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>579416161I don't know if you're intentionally being dishonest or you don't remember the state of imagegen 3 years ago
>zechcord getting uppity again
>>579416298This. We are not going anywhere!
>>579416298>Hetero Kingdom Embassy
ALBATROOOOOOOOOOOOOSS
>>579415843>basically i'm dabbin on MAO tlYeah frankly I feel some regret. I initially responded to and talked about MAO since they had the super-convenient github with line comparisons for me to look over, but frankly I think their output is the worst of the GPT-5.6 Sol translations I looked at. Their motivation is probably more dunking on other people than making good translations, while the Amakano/Anemoi were just like compsci bros who really wanted to read those VNs so they put a lot of effort into them. I don't really like my comments being exploited for publicity by them when I have praise for GPT Sol not specifically them beyond their githubs.If I could do my post over again I would avoid commenting on MAO translations. Oh well. My own fault for acting naively instead of like a tribalistic fuck avoiding Gambs on principle.
Well, /vn/?
Oretsuba~
Why are there people who haven't read Oretsuba spamming Oretsuba?
>>579416483Oretsuba is great and all, but it's no LiL.
Any VNs with early castle architecture?
>>579415213>>579416126Take your fucking eyes off of my wife. Go find an idiot high schooler or hikkikomori to date.
>but frankly I think their output is the worst of the GPT-5.6 Sol translations I looked at.OH NO NO NO MAOSISTER GET DOWN! THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING WE ALREADY PUT QUOF'S QUOTE ON OUR WEBSITE AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
>>579416483This kind of thing is well within the realm of taste. If we boil them down to super simple elements:Oretsuba: City lifeMuramasa: ActionWA2: Romance drama It sounds pseud to put it like that but often people resonate not with subtle elements but broad tones.
>>579416601Yeah it's actually a good VN and fully completed
>>579416607No, but I've unironically read an EVN that does
>>579416630FRIENDLY FIRE FRIENDLY FIREEEEEEEEEE
>MAO haters maldingKek, as usual.
>>579416575>peopleThey are called the floodling(s), and we do not refer to them as humans, they are animals.
>>579416083Apparently it's recommended, and there's really no downside to using it. Coco's nail colors are literally untranslatable though
>>579415961yeah you might wanna turn that furry mode off bro.>when did it become so goodWhen v5 released.>not using artist: artistnameYour artstyle preferences bro?
Why don't you simply read the visual novel in the original language with no machine to aid you?
>>579416664They're both good VNs.
>>579416709>it's afraidtranslate the fucking BST chapter names you lazy fuck
>>579416672Tell me.
>>579416750>Apparently it's recommendedexplain
>>579416738Oretsuba will be blogposted and you will be forced to watch while hugging your Kana toys out of fear
Status on the all-age murder mystery genre?
>>579416881Revitalized
What the fuck, they are in Kamurocho.I hope they bump into Kiryu or Nishiki...>>579416626All hags belong to me.
Literally untranslatable
The color... red...?
>>579417002What eoppiggies will never understand is that in oretsuba, literally EVERYONE has their own unique manner of speaking, slang and lingo diving deep into jappy subcultures. It's literally untranslatable, yes.
>>579416395Sounds like prompt issue.https://archived.moe/h/thread/7686226/#q7686226
>>579412852not reading ur ai slopthe idea of "good prose" is cringe and really a sociopath's argument it's not about good/passable but about lived experiencenot that autists and rating shizos would notice the difference between edited/non-edited mtl; but then they can as well read fully generated text so why even bother with non-proofread mtl
>>579416481from experience, they probably have an over-engineered prompt that makes it write like a pseud for some reason. at least that what retards who discover ai do usually. also i think they claimed to have used sol high, but on the latest tls it just says sol on their website, without thinking levelthey only think he got over the competition is the pro plan. if i would (hypothetically obviously) translate kyojin-tachi (500k moji) on high, it would take me like a month considering weekly limits (and ignoring the 5h limit that makes the whole thing even more tiresome). and this is ignoring additional revision passes, and fixes after proof-reading, while he could do the same in less than a week with little to no input
>>579416831>I barely touch the anime model anymore because I've found the furry model just does people better (*especially* faces and NSFW)I've seen comments that furry mode results in generally higher quality porn, so I'm just believing that. I guess it helps the model understand the tags better because the only constant between normal and furry porn are the porn acts
>>579416939Enjoy my sloppy seconds
>>579416881Peaked with Raging Loop.
>>579417146>it's afraid
>>579417283>Raging Poop
>>579416738>floodlingswe have rights just like you
>>579416764Give me a good artist name... I tried Asanagi once and it looked... let's just not talk about it
>>579416738it's the zechcord, retardsis
Is Ou jackson really that good or is it all a shitpost
>>579417315Raging Kamige
>>579417323Ahh the secret ingredient to my mother's famous MUMBAImasa curry
What would you do in this situation?
>>579417410It's all a shitpost.
>>579417410He is just that good
>>579417410he's good but the guy shitposting about him recently probably hasn't read his games
>>579417167>the idea of "good prose" is cringemaybe on planet retard
>>579416867(You) EOPs couldn't even comprehend the games you read in English, why would I be worried from (You) reading Jackson's prose? AKA the most non-EOP-friendly prose out there xD and with what? Your AI delusines.... What an AIsir you are xDDD We, JOPs, won, are winning and will keep winning~~~~
>>579417447I genuflect.
>>579417439>>579416939Who wore it better?
>>579417410if he was good he would've been already translated
>>579412852>undue pleasantnessWhy did you use undue here
>>579417570vocaroo little sissy
>people are now trying to translate MareniJOPS your response?https://vndb.org/r164368
>>579417393Takeda Hiromitsu
>>579417570nigga you mtld baldr;shit, stfu
>>579417594It probably would have been but there was some bullshit going on with Navel after Shuffle got translated. I don't really remember the details since this was years ago.
>>579417167>but about lived experienceWhat is this lefty shit
LLMs are better writers than eroge writers anyway.
>>579417698don't look up the tler's reddit posts history, kek
>>579417635>I want to touch myself while I hear your rapper-voiceUhmmm, no? Why would I let the floodlings have some wanking materials because of me?.... how about you hang yourself instead?>>579417724Is that MTL with us in the room?.... I used luna to hook a couple of things, sorry that I couldn't read the texts of this game naturally with how dark they fucking look! As dark as me DAYUUUMMMM
>>579417167low iq sama...
Alright break it to me. Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai seems like some generic moege. Why is it 'untranslatable'? What's the problem? Even Dies irae (previously considered to be absolutely untranslatable) got translated?
MUMBAIaroo
>>579417849KEK
>>579417914Dies Irae is still untranslatable
>>579412852>>579416481>>579415383I mean this with all due respect, but are you a paid actor?You say to "take this with a grain of salt," but at this point you have done more to mindlessly shill these machine translations than Gambs and "Mao" combined. I wouldn't be recommending a translation to people without conducting any substantial analysis of it myself, much less exerting any kind of influence over how it is perceived without having done so. You yourself state that you haven't done that analysis, and frankly, I wouldn't have believed you had otherwise.I'll be honest, I'm not very tuned into this scene, and I have no idea who you are other than an apparently somewhat reputed translator, or what your credentials are. But I would like to think that I have a decent command of both Japanese and English after over a decade of study and professional translation work, from which I am now retired.I can acknowledge that you never claimed perfect accuracy, but the extent to which you praise these translations, along with the way you presented them in your initial post, is misleading.
ORETSUBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>579417914It is a generic moege but with le prose and quirky dialogue writing>inb4 it's a charage
>>579417985selebus pays him
>>579416481>My own fault for acting naively instead of like a tribalistic fuck avoiding Gambs on principle.I like you Quof, but you really ought to stop and think before posting everything that crosses your mind. Thereās a reason why almost everyone in the JOP community has avoided contact with gambs for years.
It's MGWT Monday
It's Oppai Monday.All days are oppai days, so saying this is a bit redundant, but it bears repeating.
The only good JOPs in this general are the FLOWERsisters and ABkang
>>579417985You just hate LLMs because of your political inclinations. You don't scrutinize human translators as harshly as you do MTLs and that's not a coincidence.
>>579418221>politics out of nowhereMeds
>>579417623Because it is "undue" in that the pleasantness comes not from the prose itself, but the self-satisfaction of feeling improvement - as if I am absorbing the prose into myself. That's very self-centered and not something most will feel so it is "undue," as I mean it. >>579417167>it's not about good/passable but about lived experiencelolI'm sure the best prose comes from an 80 IQ literal retard who is barely literate but had a lot of life experience.
>>579418274It's relevant given who that dude is
>>579417914LiL is untranslatable too but it has a Russian TL somehow. Untranslatable just means you lose a ton of shit by translating it. Shit like Ulysses and Zettels Traum gets translated so you can "translate" anything.
Stop talking about politics and talk more about bebeseas inside of Aoko and Alice all day long until the Somali boat drivers create smaller futuristic boat drivers that are Japan/Somal hybrids
>>579417704Holy kino. The girls became plump and squishy
Fabled.
>>579418089I-I like you too, anon...!
>>579400356Not yet, but soon, maybe.
>>579418386Ulysses is shit in its original language too
>This VN feels like it was written by someone who mastered his craft 10+ years ago and is now just having fun with it while delivering insane quality.>The versatility is unmatched - this VN has it all, and the level is extremely high. Humor, chuuni fight scenes, slight nervousness, eerie atmospheres⦠even the mundane and agitating stuff like your mom standing up from the dinner table 10 times because she forgot something.The versatility canāt be understated - when looking at the list of the VNs Iāve read, it almost feels like Ou Jackson couldāve written all of them, but none of the authors of those couldāve written Oretsuba.>The only VN that gave me a similar āvibeā was Cross Channel. Iām not sure, but it feels like Ou Jackson might have been inspired by it a bit.And you can tell he had fun writing it. Sometimes you click and heās beating a grammar point to death for comedic effect; sometimes he drags a bit just because he wants to. You never know what the next click will bring.>A lot of us use VNs to improve Japanese. This VN is a full-on challenge: grammar abuse, huge vocabulary, wordplay, punchlines, references, foreshadowing, humor, slang⦠all while not sounding forced or making it feel like Ou Jackson wants to flex on us. In other words: This doesn't feel like it's difficult for the sake of being difficult>I donāt think any VN author can compete with Ou Jackson. Atleast I haven't seen it yet - he delivers everything you could ask for in one full package.
>>579418508Has nothing to do with the difficulty of translating it.
>>579418389Do your parents know about your obsession with bibisi?
>>579417914Itās somewhat similar to qruppo, translating it literally doesnāt make sense because too japanese. You have to "localize" it if you really want to convey what makes them fun.
can any oretsuba spammer post a single vocaroo of them reading it?it's a rhetorical question
>>579418089>Thereās a reason why almost everyone in the JOP community has avoided contact with gambs for years.It all started when he woke up from slumber and purged anti lolicon mods back in the day.
MAO translations, onegai!
>>579416797I honestly don't remember the name. I'll quote you if I manage to figure it out
>>579418089>japanese people are smarter cause they eat fish>Lots of them support vtumors, 3dpd idols and gachaslophmmm something not adding up here
>>579418420Missing the NTR face
>>579418657>"noooo you shouldn't be obsessed with your own body :OOO"Why shouldn't I like my own body if I know it is way better than everyone here? I know it is not the best in the world, but am pretty sure my KANG genes already made me greater than you can ever dream of. If Aoko and Alice saw me and Mahoyo's protagonist at the same time, they would spit on him and then come rushing to me licking my feet and begging me to give it to them... why? because I used to be a boat driver at a certain point of my life, I ain't no Somali, but they are still our African brethren so hey, we ain't that far from each other! Nasu was into something when he wrote that scene of Aoko getting impregnated by them, shit got my bebesea tingling and throbbing and going in circles and squares for 3 days straight... Alice pubes? used to wipe my male fluids so I don't drop any evicance about how much I raped them both at first... but it doesn't matter anymore, they now like it and want it willingly... why? because my fucking body won, and I wins and wonned~
>>579418759Maybe it's quof? Isn't that his favorite VN?
Help, I'm getting groomed!
>>579418802Just for that alone gambs is based like moot when he first started 4chan
flood what happened to file.png why are you using randomized filenames
>>579419092You're a brown iraqi. You'll never be a black kang.
>>579419204Meant for >>579419092
We love idols here, especially if they're seiyuus!
>>579400278WA2
>>579418210I don't think those are JOPs. Maybe babyjops.Actual 4chan JOPs are just insufferable beings. You have to be when you put in all the time for porn games. You have be a broken person. These people would literally hang themselves if 4chan or /vn/ disappeared
>>579419317This but vtubers
>>579419240that's dul not flood
>>579418802the cartelfags really love to ignore this part of history. moogy literally came out denouncing him right after this.
>>579419204i may uppercase 50% of the time, but i'm ALWAYS file.png (and not every file.png is me)
>>579419410>gambs melty
>>579419382>You have be a broken personAren't we all?
>>579419382There are no 4chan JOPs other than moeanon. All JOPs are discord/reddit JOPs.
>>579419113>Isn't that his favorite VN?Unless? Oretsuba is pretty good, but when I read it I had a problem in that I REALLY liked Shuusuke's part, but I didn't really like Hayato himself. Naru is also my least favorite heroine (aside from Kobato, so to speak). So what for many people was the strongest part of the game was kind of kneecapped for me. But that's all pretty superficial.
This girl in my class is kind of foul-mouthed but really cute
>>579419072>ntr facekek
>>579419154Aren't you almost 30?
>>579419410Why would moogy denounce gambs for something good(purging anti lolicon tourists)? Did he forget what medium he's in?
>Right in the middle of the streetWhat a fucking slut.
>>579419385
>>579419595Why do you have Ema grabbing Coco's ahoge
quof is this guy legit or larper? >>579389320
>>579418420Doesn't look like his art
>>579419810This is like the third time you've randomly posted this guy out of nowhere, why are you so obsessed with him?
>>579419767I thought it looked funny >>579397483
>>579419670some of those fags were his close buddies.
>>579419909I like to search VNDB for people with cringe voting patterns and then cyberstalk them
>>579419810Not sure. But he ticked me off by having a quirky chungus 2.0 / 2.5 rating system on backlogg'd.
I am built for JOP-bebesea only
>>579417985I agree with what you said. The entire point of C+C and AFAICS of Oretsuba and Albatros as well is that's a world rendered in the discourse of contemporary language in a neurotic and exaggerated way. As such these a re deeply literary works with numerous references. Judging translation quality by how the immaterial surface story is described in fluent and passable English isn't the yard stick to measure against. And quof knows this very well, which is why he's seen as a shill.
>>579419810larper, check his profiles on waybackmachine
>>579419909There are suspicions that this might be the new account of the original 'zoomer larper' who claimed to be 19 years old and to have read 800 VNs, played 2400 games and read 5000 books
>got drunk with dad one day >start talking about fetishes>jokingly start describing ntr >he says thatās what heās into too Wtf, should I secretly get a paternity test?
>>579415592>>579414798>>579416750manosaba as it was meant to be https://litter.catbox.moe/g142n4fpmyp3l6q6.jpg
>>579420227>jokinglyNah, he's definitely your dad
Ok, that's enough. Once again you all proved to be a worthless community
>>579420305hot
>>579420305
>>579420094Bro just copied a random redditor's comment (I think he feels emboldened by hiding behind the words of others), and that redditor already got BTFO twice over. You're not talking to a real human being.
>>579417393v5's done something a bit fucky with the artist tags
>>579420305It's beautiful
i want to be injected by the jop-bebesea, am built for it
Is Oretsuba the voice of teenagers
>>579420523I had one before, yeah. I always end up throwing them away after a few uses because I hate cleaning and drying them
>>579420531we know, Ichijo
>>579420305Ew
>>579420531dull.................................
>>579420523Delete it already you son of a bitch fucking faggot retard manlet
>>579420606Same lol
>>579420531Battler...
>>579420305palpable hiro seethe
>>579420094>Judging translation quality by how the immaterial surface story is described in fluent and passable English isn't the yard stick to measure against. And quof knows this very well, which is why he's seen as a shill.What I know is that 99% of translation criticism, and 99% of what people actually care about in practice, is the fluent surface level. People do not even care about critical translation errors as long as the superficial text is fluent enough. In fact, sometimes they get so attached to translation errors they will complain about them being fixed and antagonize better translators for fixing them, as this interviewer does with Setzer's line here.https://archive.rpgamer.com/features/insidegaming/tslatteryint.htmlThe like 0.1% of weirdos analyzing text comparisons and evaluating "whether world world is rendered in the discourse of contemporary language in a neurotic and exaggerated way," 99.9% of people will be like "woah this translation rules it reads so well I'm having such a good experience. If you dig your heels in and die on the hill of "true translation quality" then you will be left behind as the actual low IQ sheep audience flocks around superficial fluency supported by broadly high accuracy.
>>579420557It's about the evils of heteronormativity
>>579420606Onaholes are so overrated
>>579420523The perfect woman
>>57941960230 is still young
>>579420814>>579420523when can we expect vn heroine bots like this that also auto clean?
>>579420821onaholes + lsd is a great combo
>>579420884>twentieshttps://youtu.be/ADvJ8p8yY-c
I Became Gay from Translating My New Roommate's Short Story
>>579420606TRVEUsing & maintaining an onahole is such a hassle.>lube>preheat>bust after <10 minutes>wash clean>dry in open>apply anti-fungal powderShit unironically needed ~5-10 minutes of prep time per use.
>>579413229KAMIneko has an anime adaptation, a manga, multiple FDs, a fighting game spin-off, a theatrical adaptation, a whole cafƩ with cute maidos that R07 frequents, as well as a fully voiced console release with highly regarded VAs made after the VN's success.MUMBAImasa on the other hand has... a cancelled sequel, an FD written by someone else, and uuhhhhhh
I went through the same...
>>579420997
i'm so fucking bored.......
>>579421085>umineko has [a bunch of slop]ok... now read your first vn
>>579420157I thought he was just some retard who rated a bunch of vns before reading them but kek
>>579421062Delicious
Visual novel readers gotta be some of the weakest and most pathetic creatures out there. Why do you mean reading some kusoge can change your identity? I have read tens of hetrosexual romance while self-inserting as the girl but it never changed my attraction to girls and made me straight... this general is filled with some of the biggest losers on mother earth lol~
umineko reference
>>579416607Play Six Ages.Magic bronze age hillfort plays major role in the second game
>>579421085>5
Readable and engaging prose >>> accuracy
>>579421249
>>579420094>>579420749P.S. Publishers tell translators to their face that better translations don't equal better sales. Have you ever considered that? The publishers have the sales data, and there is NO - NO! - correlation between translation quality and sales. Publishers will outright refuse to give raises to better translations because it is not increasing their bottom line, and often they will actively give projects to new, worse hires because they can pay them less. Real life is not pretty words about the ideal translation. Real life is minimum effort and time for maximum profit. You can have vanity projects if you like and spend 10 years honing a translation just because you care a lot, but it will not get you any additional readers or income. People broadly just do not give a shit about this stuff. They want to read their stuff NOW, and they don't want it to read like shit or be blatantly wrong. If you give it to them immediately and it reads fine while being accurate enough to maintain a sense of consistency, they will be happy. That's it. That's real life.
>>579421085Rokuhara village will not like reading after they're done with Mizuhi
>>579421245>self-inserting as the girl but it never changed my attraction to girls and made me straightDull you're unwittingly admitting that you're a girl here
>>579421062Kek>>579421249Lol
>scat
>>579416481FWIW Quof, I think you're over-indexing on the most recent batch of models and patches, and it makes you look like a shill for Gambs and/or Sol, even if I believe you that that's not your intent.The reason you're seeing all these MTL patches pop out of the woods this year is not really because LLM's got meaningfully better at translation, but because they got good enough at coding that they can automate the tedious work of getting the patches to work with shitty VN engines that nobody wanted to bother with before.You probably don't use LLM's very much, but they've already been able to make the idiomatic "leaps" in translation that so impressed you for pretty much as long as the original ChatGPT; there are already fairly large communities, especially in the Chinese scene, that have been self-translating their weebshit with LLM's for quite some time.Even pre-LLM, if we're all being honest, MTL has already been at the level where you can throw a script into MTL, post-edit any obvious problems, and get something the median person thinks is basically acceptable (especially with the very low standards of VN / webnovel / manwha readers) for probably like a decade since Google Translate introduced NMT. Your moat and job security has always pretty much been human and publisher preference against MTL, which isn't really affected by how MTL is now much better at providing semantically correct text.
>>579421413the manosaba fan tl is shit so I agree with you.
>>579421450Yes, I wrote it to bait retards like you xD I could've deleted it, but I want you to keep having this misinformation about me~
>/vn/ prefers the spineless blue haired whore who strips off her panties in the middle of the street to give a blowjob before getting railed in public>over thisgrim.
>>579421551>it's afraid
oppai >>> other stuff
ohogoe >>> other moans
>>579421085and yet no one who read uminegro here liked it
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>579421551>it's trembling in fear
>>579421714GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
Redman has sex with MEN?
>>579421703goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooog
>>579421551Yeah no, pre llm MTL was absolute dogwater outside of the more basic sentences if it was processed by someone with no japanese knowledge.
>>579421551>it's dishonest
>>579421249why does she looks so proud?
>>579421856Kotarou Tennouji is not a "man"
ORETSUBA.
>>579399959>best vinnie this>best vinnie that>{HE} joins the chat>Maruto shivering>R07 getting bullied>Shimizu Hatsumi Smirking>SCA-Ji doing it in his pants>Narahara feeling betrayed
>>579421856Always has
>>579421547>scat
>>579418089What is supposed to be so incriminating about these screenshots?
>>579421551I had poked some translations into chatGPT over the years to check its progress and was surprised by some of the results I got even in 2022 (that's why I had those interviews with journalists talking about MTL), but indeed what really surprised me indeed was to see entire projects launched and be consistently good throughout. I'm not sure what a project with 2022 chatGPT would look like; you are right that I don't usually use LLMs so I am not super familiar.I focused so much on Sol because I wanted to avoid something that happened anyway, which is ignorant outsiders thinking of MTL as all the same and, e.g., seeing some garbage Grok translation from 2024 and saying "see? MTL is bad, look at this shit." By continually emphasizing Sol and high effort levels and the importance of prompts I hoped to dissuade people from over-simplifying to "all MTL is automatically good" then getting buttmad at me when they came across a bad one. My post got followed up by a guy shilling a cost-efficiency Deepseek translation method and people dragged his example sentences over the cold for being poor, in turn writing off what I had said as well.
Can someone MTL Waga Himegimi? The 2022 SVN translation was so fucking bad you literally couldn't comprehend what they were saying. Comparing it to a modern AI TL would show just how much AI has progressed in these past few years
>579422019W-wait, is this the front page image? a /vn/KANG made it??? a /vn/KANG got the attention of MAEDA-sensei himself???? sheeeeit /vn/ has reached some new highes thanks to the KANGs faction! never before a reputable vn creator have known about our existence...
>>579422074Gambs glazing Japanese people like a weeb
>>579422019He ain't no Ou Jackson tho
>>579421634>strips off her panties in the middle of the street to give a blowjob before getting railed in publicYou're not doing a good job convincing me she isn't superior
>>579422118>MTL was so fucking bad you literally couldn't comprehend what they were saying.IDBLT
>>579422118Just grok it yourself, bro.
>>579422238>>579422238>>579422238
>>579422149What did you dooooo..... I was about to post it in 5 secondes, what did you change....
Why does quof go on these intellectual pseud rants? We get it you were a retard who took a year to learn about LLMs. Shut the fuck up.
>>579421551not quite. even tools/harnesses aside, which were indeed popularized with claude code/codex only this year, non of the model before opus 4.6/gpt 5.3 or whatever (those released around the same time) were good enough for this. as in, they would still commit actual accuracy errors when translating, even on moeshit. that's should be surprising considering that even now the difference between sol mid and high can make or break a sentenceas a rule of thumb, everything that came out in 2026 should be at least passable, while the stuff before still required a lot of editing (assuming you care about not eating slop, which is obviously a non-issue for nukige)
>>579421551>because LLM's got meaningfully better at translationPeople are just more knowledgeable about agentic stuff these days. The frameworks have become mature enough that you can easily create multi agent multi step workflows with fancy tool calls. During the early days niggas just chunked the script and fed it to LLMs step by step.
AI chads > jopMONGs
have translators become completely obsolete?
>>579422459Their only hope is to be training material for AI models
>>579422204What if I told you she did it not because she's horny, but because she's so pathetic and desperate to keep MC-kun from going to his True Love�
>>5794224591 more year
>>579422591More like have been made obsolete for a year now KEK
>>579422526hfk
>>579422459AI still can't do memelations.
>>579422459People still revere human translators, detest MTL and VN industry runs on human connections. More and more translators keep getting hired
>>579422902>>579415323
>>579422964>human connections.I hate humans so much. I wish they would go extinct.
>>579421085NEGROmasa just got nuked to orbit
>>579421085MUMBAImasa has official NTR art of the heroines and Narahara approved doujin like picrel
>>579421904Yes, pre-LLM MTL was total dogwater and it's much better now, but that's not the point; what I'm trying to say is purely from a translation perspective, even before LLM's, you could get some slop out of DeepL/Google Translate, massage it into the closest grammatically correct English sentence, and 90% of people would eat it up. If pre-LLM was 70%, LLM's are 90% and a skilled human translator is 100% it doesn't really matter from a translator job perspective if the average person wanted like a 60% grammatically correct patch; translators were always there for the 10% of people that cared about quality, as a liability sink, because people are averse to MTL and like having a parasocial human face on the TL, etc.>>579422314YMMV on the translation quality I guess. For ball knowers, the best models for translation are the Gemini line even in like 2024-2025, probably because DeepMind shit the bed so hard on RL for agentic coding but have a really good translation data corpus. I don't think Sol or whatever is meaningfully better than any of the Gemini models or really better than any of the RL-fried agentic coding models.>>579422110>>579422348Yeah, the big difference now is that you can automate patching the game itself via agentic workflows, which is big in the sense that you can actually distribute your vibe-translated patches for people to read, but not really big in the sense that being able to do this meaningfully affects translators any more than they already are, or that people are actually going to be reading these vibe-translated patches at scale. There's definitely a large gap between projects that someone slops out vs a project that someone takes care of; but really that's always been the case, and unfortunately I don't think anyone really understood your point...
>>579425953>KINOmasaIDBLT
I love oppai lolis, especially Yuki!
steins shit lost
>>579424629>For ball knowers, the best models for translation are the Gemini line even in like 2024-2025,I'm not but I did my own project for fun at the start of the year and it actually came out quite well. Wasn't even doing any agentic coding or tool use, simply just what I scripted to the api and modfying system prompts with context/glossary a little bit with a rolling window of inputs. What would it look with agentic coding just via translation pipeline (not editing, reflection etc)? Does it require being able to organize all the text into all appropiate routes/chapters etc.? I didn't get that far since every game can be different and I couldnt figure how to organize it like that without going through it manually.