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Visual Novel General #7845

This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.
All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/
E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.
Kindly use spoiler tags appropriatly when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.

>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:
1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help
4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL
5. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/
https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.png
https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader

>Need a novel with a specific element?
https://vndb.org/g

>Download Links:
https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-links

Previous thread: >>579422238
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Reminder that Nasu made all the R18 content from his works non cannon.
All-ages won.
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>>579447890
Yes. I'd rather not even be aware that someone is shitting up my thread
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All-ages gods can't stop winning.
The future is here oldman, death to eroge.
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i only read gay furryge
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>There's a bunch of muramasa bread
>There's barely any Umineko
Noticing...
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>>579447915
>source: my ass
>>579448171
But you're not winning cause your real life will always be all ages.
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>>579447915
I don't care what Nasu wants.
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Dead thread, dead general, dead medium, dead race, dead planet, dead galaxy, dead universe.
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>>579447528
Refers to him tanking a spear and yes its correct, even if a bit weird
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>>579435587
>Where this at?
https://htranslations.com/community/channel/5d778d97-f87e-48f9-9920-d51f4fc7d458
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>>579447915
TsukiRe won
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>>579448614
I don't particularly want to watch this default koikatsu model engage in sexual intercourse with a goofy fucker with an edgelord haircut. It just doesn't hit the same anymore, now that I've seen the same thing happen six dozen times already. I'm canceling my subscription.
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What the FUCK happened
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>>579448427
It's not what Nasu 'wanted', that anon is just making shit up. Nasu sold out to the console overlords and making an r-18 version of realta would cause friction with them and cause confusion with the fan base. He literally pushed to have the sakura worm scene in the fate anime adaptation so this claim that he made all the h- scenes non-canon is bs.
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I really liked how in Manosaba Noah acts like a mischievous little sister but obediently follows you around. Cutest voice and cutest noises
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>>579448962
Mindless flesh golem moment
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>>579447915
The sex scenes in Tsukihime and FSN were shit anyway. AI porn of Fate characters is way better.
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>>579448693
The demake of the year awards
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>>579448962
She losted
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is quof eopping amakano? i don't get it
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>>579449086
You literally consume ai slop, you are in no position to judge quality.
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>>579449131
I don't think that's quof. Quof is the guy posting smug koikatsu screenshots and saying
>u mad?
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>>579449098
Demake of the year all years is stein gay reGAY. Contrarians wont like the trvke thougg
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>>579449131
Much like a JOP shilling an EVN is funny, I think a JOP shilling an MTL patch is funny.
>>579449206
Sorry, it was me all along.
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Which is the Rolls-Royce among moege devs?
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trending on bangumi
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>>579449028
Why are you playing with the troonslation when you could wait a few months for the official one? Or better yet, play in Japanese. You're hurting the sales with that shit
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>>579449467
Ah... the meaning of life...
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>>579449086
>The sex scenes in Tsukihime and FSN were shit anyway
This is a popular psyop, Rin's scene was actually good.
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>>579449459
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>>579448962
femoids do be like that
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>>579449467
More like Bugumi
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>>579449467
To think /vn/ cvcks got filtered by meaning of life kino. Back to the moecattle farms, kek! Still never reading: Yuzu, asarashi, asa pro, marmalade sloppa
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>>579449467
>musicus
>8.5
Japs really are cucks
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>>579449206
dunno it's the same filename format of quof playing pso and of previous quof amakano screenshots
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>>579449747
It's a good VN.
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>>579449028
I like the small number of indications you get that Noa isn't a complete retard, she's insightful and clever, she just acts dumb
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>my first crush
>look her name up in the name register
>Le gasp
>tfw her name is Oretsuba
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Oretsuba is a cheap and easy word to filter. Zero chance of false positives.
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Imoutos...
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Oretsuba. There I go, I said it—the best suba, the Oretsuba.
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>>579449903
That's Boomhauer!
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>>579450183
love
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>>579450157
>it's afraid
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>>579450473
IDBLT
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>>579449747
I was here when the Musicus tl was released, it was such a massacre
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>>579450183
>>579450393
Her blowjob scene was peak. KKK has few ero scenes but high quality.
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>>579450351
>xe said the C word and got banned
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
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>>579449467
oya oya, totsuraba dropping in score
>>579449747
Bangumi users are chinese
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>Noooo, don't masturbate to AI generated pictures
>Says the retard reading a vn translated by AI
Lol, lmao even, kill yourself kek
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I miss Karenschizo
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>>579450931
Who are you referring to
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I miss Oretsuba
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>>579447916
Paused the music to focus on the image you posted. I think the appeal in those prose is that they read like a book unlike most VNs or at least the translated ones we read?.... other than that, I don't think there is any engaging aspect for me personally in what was posted here... hmmm, if we are talking about prose, I would give this as an example for a fun writing to read from a writer who is very famous for his prose...Both are distinctly different, but one is appealing to most readers while the 2nd seems like it failed miserably?
>plenty of people have posted all sorts of things.
When we see hundreds of LiL posts daily, we tend to just... skip them. And when sometimes I check on them, I would find some very nothingburger posts being shared. I believe that there might have been some good examples similar to your pic among them, but I really can't bring myself to search for them manually if the blogposters are going to intentionally clog the general with tons of posts that give a bad rep for this game.
>I bet there's plenty of "funniest jokes" you could link to me that I wouldn't find funny at all
That's true, but similar to how some comedy shows are always recommended to people and you would see lots of people finding them funny, some VNs are known to do that. I don't think it would be wrong to think that some comedy is objectively funny for most readers, if someone doesn't find it funny? it would be due to his special taste, I don't mind failing to make 2 anons out of 10 laugh with my examples.
>That sounds like it would be more about emotional manipulation than impact. When LiL scenes hit they hit since you've spent so much time learning about and growing attached to characters
I remember making someone watch a sad anime scene without knowing anything about the anime, he was still affected by it even tho the scene there was meant for those who watched the show and are connected with the characters.
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Good evenin /vn/ hope alls well
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>>579450735
>these are the subhumans who moderate our board
No wonder this place is so shit
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>>579447916
He still reacted to it positively because the scene itself was good. If you need to spend tens of hours with LiL characters to connect to them, isn't that really more emotionally manipulative? this is like seeing a normal dog get hit by a car vs seeing your own dog. For the random dog, most humans wouldn't feel anything, but for their own dog? it would feel like they were the ones who got hit. Didn't they get emotionally manipulated by their attachment to the dog?... but here is a different point of view, If I made that same comparison, but this time let's say it is a movie scene, if you watched just the part where the dog gets hit without knowing anything about him, but this time the scene is directed by some professionals who will do their best to make you cry... isn't that also emotionally manipulative?... in both cases, you are being manipulated. the only real way for you to react to those scenes without being controlled by the writer, is to cry when the writer is not intending for you to do so... something I did with multiple Jun Maeda works, crying randomly just by remembering their lines and story. Can LiL characters truly do that? I know I altered from our main point, but now that I think about it, the only real unmanipulated dramatic scenes are the ones you create yourself by just going through the work naturally.
>You also should not be emboldened by random anons sharing your opinion. You can find a huge number of anons shitting on all the greatest of kamige, from Umineko to Muramasa to MLA to whatever else tops the charts.
Very extreme example you have dropped right there @_@ Everyone at this point knows what games are shitposted about and how all the shitposts are unreal, but LiL didn't reach the point of getting unwarranted hate, but I will give you that flood is targeting it for no reason other than shitposting. But I believe the other anons here have raised great questions regarding the true quality of this game.
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>echoes the Kegai, bringing Numahime to mind as Keishirou free of Wilhelm faces her to free her from the vestiges of Helga and the fucked up karma
Beautiful. He's got one hell of a character arc, across all 3 games counting FD
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>>579449467
Symphonic Rain was so good, bros...
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>>579451210
And with Shirou to have helped guide him no less. Such kino
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>>579451209
>Didn't they get emotionally manipulated by their attachment to the dog?
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>>579451210
That's actually a really pretty CG. Is this easier or harder than Muramasa to read in Japanese?
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>>579451028
Some VNs may be like comedy shows, broadly accessible - I would say something like Eternum is like that, clips from it will make 8 out of 10 people laugh I'm sure - but LiL doesn't have that kind of comedy. Its primary form of comedy (besides sex jokes ha ha) is building up running gags and twisting them in surprising ways over dozens of hours. You could say this is a problem in that it's less broadly accessible, but when people actually read the game they tend to find it pretty funny and get into it. It's not like art lives or dies on whether something is enjoyable out of context. Same for the sad scene. Again, if something is sad out of context it is probably an emotionally manipulative scene. Really sad music, sad visuals, maybe a traditional subject like someone dying or a dog being hurt or something... People get sad and even cry watching like rescue animal commercials. Should we consider rescue animal commercials kamige because they make random people cry, while scenes that need context and buildup to be sad are considered bad?
> If you need to spend tens of hours with LiL characters to connect to them, isn't that really more emotionally manipulative?
Uh, no, not in the way emotional manipulation is meant. It is actually so absurd to posit that it is emotionally manipulative to need to care about characters before feeling sad about what happens to them. I'm actually a little stunlocked by that so I'm just going to move on.
>Can LiL characters truly do that?
Yes. People cry to LiL a lot.
> But I believe the other anons here have raised great questions regarding the true quality of this game.
Most people don't even play before "raising great questions." The inquisition on this subject is pretty bizarre. What is the "true quality" of a game like Muramasa or Umineko, both of which have tons of haters who rate it very lowly? Imagine someone really skeptical of those two and trying to judge them by screenshots and questions without ever playing...
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2 greatest JOPs of /vn/ are arguing right now
Quof and ABdul
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>>579449487
>hurting sales
How is that a bad thing?



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