UNDEFEATED Cell Edition- Gekishin Squadra is getting a major overhaul- Xenoverse 3 announced- Xenoverse 2 final DLC is out- Two anime series have been announced: DBS: Beerus (with Frieza teaser) and DBS: Galactic Patrol- FighterZ new balance update is out• XENOVERSE 3 - GAMEPLAY FIRST LOOKhttps://youtu.be/2WJ8irTIw7I • XENOVERSE 2 - FUTURE SAGA CH4 LAUNCH TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/DFWpzSFTJco • SPARKING ZERO - SUPER LIMIT BREAKING NEO DLC SHOWCASEhttps://youtu.be/-yVuL6K1oMI• FIGHTERZ - GOKU SS4 DAIMA TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/qTfxD54fMHs • GEKISHIN SQUADRA - JIRENhttps://youtu.be/0vc8lPKh_ic • KAKAROT - DAIMA PT2 LAUNCH TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/ZY6OAh_7KYw >Useful links:https://rentry.org/dft79XV2 news:>Future Saga Chapter 4 is outSDBH News/Resources:>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24>SDBH Database: https://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/>Deck Autism: https://rentry.org/sdbhdecklistDBSDV news:>The 11th set has released>God Rares: SSB Goku, SSB Vegetto, Corrupted Zamasu, Beast Gohan, Orange Piccolo, Cell Max, Xeno Vegeta, SS3 Xeno Bardock>Reflect Break Cards: SSG Goku, Ultimate Gohan, SSR Trunks, Piccolo, Whis>Modes based on Goku Black and DBS Superhero arcs>2nd Anniversary soon>Card List: https://www.dbsdv.com/cardlist/?series=598010>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefileIf you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.Kakarot news:>Daima DLC Pt2 launched on January 15thThe Breakers news:>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry herehttp://xenoverse.booru.org/Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)Thank youLAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>578786208
>>579541618Undefeated like Nozawa. She even killed the audience at that one panel and is now a fugitive.
>>579541793She's unstoppable.
>>579542049Goku if he had joined in the final battle according to Fortnite.
>>579542049Even if i'm not too hyped at the idea of BoG/RoF for the third time, Genkidamatsuri was fun
>>579542261Genkidamatsuri's panels were genuinely the best part.
>>579542531ngl I don't remember the ones that weren't just Nozawa and REAL goku
>>579543310That big Goku costume was so funny too.
>>579541618>not even updating gekishin link
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>>579546185Taking what Toriyama said out of context is cringe. He was talking about the themes and motivations of the story.
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>>579546451Again, he's talking in the sense of Goku not being motivated by some 'Nakama bond' thing like say Luffy is.
>>579546451>>579547110You really need to put what Toriyama said into context and actually know the type of manga and 'friendship' from Shonen Jump they're talking about when they mention that kind of stuff.
field open!
>>579546185>>579546451kek it's funny hearing fed up Toriyama sounded with this misconception
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>>579562215I was faster
>SugimotoWho?
>>579557778dragonball super and daima exist because Toriyama wanted to make it clear that Goku does not feel familial, romantic or nakama love, they are foreign assets to him as a character thus whenever he makes a drastic action it often leavesthe cast and viewere confused and guesssing what Goku's aim is, at least at first, now we know it's all about the fight, the thrill of battle, the colliding of bodies and fists with no idea of knowing wither or not you'll win or survive, that is son goku in Toriyama's eyes and always will be, Toei could not make him the traditional hero, they dmn sure tried to in GT, Americafarts could couldn't make him a traditional hero, to this day tht freiza speech is the blight on the dub to the point the voice actor desperate to stop being blamed for that shit blamed the entire take on the voice director and script writers at the time.it is rather ausing how the gajins romatnize dragonball to the point the french and saudies want a giantic theme park built using slave labor for the series despite not understanding it, amusing and I imagine infuriating like the star wars fans who got into the franchise when disney got it or people who only started caring about Marvel when Iron man 2008 made money
>>579568103Was Goku not knowing/caring about Meditation was a toriyama thing too? Because he meditated in the anime and manga but in Super Hero he thinks Vegeta's sleeping and then laughs off the concept of him meditating.
>>579568103>>579568513>Two gay retards fighting.
I do feel like this fanbase kind of pendelum swings between opinions really fucking hard. Goku has to be either superman or a robot who doesn't care about anything but fights, he's either a terrible father who abused Gohan or the best father ever to Gohan
>>579568513Yes, Toriyama is pretty consistent on Goku constantly forgetting lessons and not being much of a student, bro always gets what he wants to get from a training and instantly foregets the other thing, main thing, Ultra Instinct, it took him so long to learn how to do it because he straight up isn't that goo t remaining calm and calculated at all times so he settled for learning it via forcing it out through near death experiences, it's part of why his training with Meerus was so effective, Whis was training him in a way that doesn't really appeal to Goku, Meerus training him by beating him to near death like in his match with Jiren, through those repeated experiences goku eventually learned to do it at will, he's still not good at prolonging his concentration tho effectively making ultra instinct his strongest yet his shortest form as he cant stay in it indefinitely.It's why in the granola arc he's started applying different ways to use it without being spent, like using the technique version with his super saiyan forms kinda like how he saw Beerus do so in the manga against the other gods and Roshi against JIren, the whole true ultra instinct felt like padding I'd expect from Toei with how a weaker form was outclassing Gas for a bit just because it's Ultra Instinct but with all the limitations removed like concentration and stamina, it might of been Toyotaro's idea overall considering his love of constantly bringing back older forms for a casting call, much like how Toei would do it
>>579569478I don't remember Goku forgetting all of his lessons during Z
>>579568103>Toriyama wanted to make it clear that Goku does not feel familial, romantic or nakama loveThat doesn't make sense with the OG manga itself where the way he treats Gohan is pretty different from how he treats Krillin.
>>579568103He was close to Grandpa Gohan and cried seeing him again. He wanted to avenge Upa's dad. He wanted to kill Tambourine and Frieza (at first) over Krillin.
>>579571161Oh and his main reason for fighting King Piccolo was to avenge his friends.
>>579569274And in both case they rely on twisting stuff and taking them out of context while being very autistic about it.Thus you call it a gay retard fight and you ignore both.
>>579571561I personally think that Goku honestly isn't that great of a father. He's not literally hitler, and a lot of the time when he was removed from Gohan it was because he was straight up dead or training to save the world. But he's also not great. Leaving Gohan with the weight of the world on his shoulders was a pretty fucked up thing to do, as was leaving Goten to be raised by Chichi alone. I think the idea that Goku doesn't care about Family, Nakama, or friends is a bad way to phrase it and instead the way I think it's more like is that he doesn't really distinguish between them. All of the relationships are equal of value to him. Chichi and Gohan matter just as much as Krillin and Master Roshi
Some retards online seethe about Fair Tail but damn, the mangaka for it is one of the best when it come to doing stuff for his fanbase, like when he made a whole Fairy Tail indie game contest he paid out of his own pocket.I wish we had stuff like that for DB.
>>579572071Dragonball is a hell of a lot more corporate of a franchise compared to fairy tale due to its size, so it'd be a hell of a lot more impersonal inherently
>>579572067>as was leaving Goten to be raised by Chichi alone.Goku didn't know about that tho.
>>579572190Dunno, man, I've seen corporation organize community events and contests too.
>>579572196At the time, sure. But unless he just never once checked in on his family ever via king kai he'd know about it. Which is a seperate layer of fucked up if he didn't Also, complete nonsequitor but thinking about buu saga it's really funny that Gohan told Videl to cut her hair so people don't grab it in the same arc where Goku gets super saiyan 3. Poor girl.
>>579572373>But unless he just never once checked in on his family ever via king kai he'd know about itThat's pretty obviously how it went, DB characters don't really break the 'dead / alive' barrier unless it's needed when it comes to peace times. Goku directly said he'd see Gohan and everyone else once they're dead (Obviously so Goku wouldn't be constantly backseating Gohan).Like we literally see Goku learn of Goten on-screen.
>>579572373>But unless he just never once checked in on his family ever via king kai he'd know about it. Which is a seperate layer of fucked up if he didn'tWell from Goku's perspective, he was dead, and because he was dead the living world wasn't really of any concern to him. He said it himself, he'd see them all when they died.
>>579572553being dead effectively isn't anything in dragonball, it's just kinda being stuck in a slightly different place forever. It shouldn't stop Goku from phoning home when it's not even like he has to pay for an international call >579572529>(Obviously so Goku wouldn't be constantly backseating Gohan).I've always found this odd as a reason for Goku to leave Gohan because Gohan and frankly everyone else in the team has only ever benefited from Goku's existence and his absence immediately spelled doom for a whole ass timeline. motherfucker SHOULD be backseating he's the best coach in the universe
>>579572806>being dead effectively isn't anything in dragonballExcept in Trunks' timeline. >It shouldn't stop Goku from phoning home when it's not even like he has to pay for an international callWhy would he? He's dead. He wanted them to live their lives. Not sure how many times this needs to be explained to you. It's like you're just looking for a reason to blame Goku.
>>579572991>Except in Trunks' timeline.You mean the timeline where it doesn't really make much sense for them to be dead because of the namek balls?
>>579573183Bulma didn't know where the new Planet Namek was.
>>579573281NTA but in the same location? Porunga only restored it. He didn't relocate it.
>>579573281King Kai does. Do you know what the freshly dead Z fighters would immediately do right after they've died to the androids?
>>579573369Nothing. That's precisely what they did.
>>579573439and why exactly would they do nothing? other than that's what's required for the plot to happen
>>579573526Because that's what's required for the plot to happen. Also, there was no guarantee they kept their bodies. Goku actually had to mention that he was allowed to keep his for second time after dying to Cell. That doesn't mean the others were granted the same privilege. They only did the first time because Kaio wanted to train them to fight the Saiyans.
>>579572806>motherfucker SHOULD be backseating he's the best coach in the universeWell yeah but it'd undermine Gohan as the new MC, just like Gojo undermined the fuck out of Yuji as JJK's MC
>>579573352It was relocated. Goku had to trace them.
>>579573880oh, gotcha.
>>579573663>They only did the first time because Kaio wanted to train them to fight the Saiyans.Untrue, they seemed to just kind of have their bodies. Kami even explicitly recreated Chaitzou. Kaio had nothing to do with them. I don't see why Enma would just deny all of the Z fighters any ability to keep their bodies because the divine hierarchy has never been characteized to be that ultra strict. Enma especially is super chill
>>579569274the people arguing that Goku is a psycho who only cares about fighting to the detriment of all else are trolling.
>>579574068Thanks for the clarification.
>>579573752I think it could have been done well. Goku's pretty much always been backed up by the rest of his gang to help pull through and I think that could've been done fine-ish with Gohan
>>579574153Say what you want about Super but the scene with 17 has Goku explain what he's about in the SIMPLEST terms possible and it was a great scene.
>>579574270I mean, it could have but I'm just saying it's pretty obvious WHY it was done the way it was.
>>579573526That's quite literally the only reason why. Goku could have just spoken to Gohan through King Kai at any time and tell him about New Namek and the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
>>579574447One of the more conspiracy esque arguments I've seen is that Toriyama wanted to shift away from a more actiony thing and go to a more slice of life type story with gohan going to highschool with great saiyaman, hence he needed Goku out of the picture and Gohan, a protagonist more suited towards that, takes over. Toriyama realized he didn't like writing that so may as well bring Goku back
>>579574606It could be, Toriyama always was pretty whimsical.
>>579574606I'm pretty sure Toriyama said that himself, no? Well, in regards to Gohan being the MC. It's not so much a conspiracy. >Interviewer: And then the Cell arc ended. Did you think that everyone felt you would put Gohan into the leading role?>Akira Toriyama: I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part.https://www.kanzenshuu.com/intended-end/boo/He enjoyed writing the Great Saiyaman and high school stuff but knew he'd have to get back to all the action eventually.
>>579580091Based
Bump
After seeing the virtual world's Getter's Stoner Sunshine, I'm thinking you could kinda cut the middleman and just have a Super Robot War x Dragon Ball type thing outright.I'd still rather go the OG MC getting his mecha from DB tho.
>>579591796...You mean Devolution? I'm not really sure how that makes Dragon Ball of all things more likely to add into SRW.
>>579598597I mean, a Stoner Sunshine looks a lot like the kind of attacks you'd see in DB.
>>579599856So? Valsione's Cross Smasher has movements that resemble the Kamehameha and Final Flash, or even Lina Inverse's Dragon Slave. Not exactly a reason to just bring in Dragon Ball.
>>579599856>>579602617For reference.
fusions 2
>>579612034They're working on Gekishin Squadra. That shit would be for Switch 2 as well. Nobody owns a Switch 2 until Pokemon comes out next year.
>>579618438Cute.
>>579622315My wife, my girlfriend and my doctor
Finally got all the helpers in Gekishin since they cross over to the new game even if they get reworked. 30/30 matches of tech sucked, by far the least fun role for me. Now I'm trying out Bulma for the 1st time and holy fuck is she broken, first time enemy team gave up in a while for me.
>Limit Breaker Journey>Get Ki Charge/Skill/Super attacks as high as fucking possible>Get Zamasu/Piccolo/Hercule/Bardock >Transform and SPAM THE SHIT OUTTA whatever skill you have. (Ideally you'd have a straight to sparking skill)>???>WinIs there any other way to play LBJ or is this pretty much it? I'm guessing you struggle hard when you play non transformation characters. I've started off playing SSG Vegeta and honestly it's starting to get old EXPLODINGGGG all the damn time.
>>579602617>>579602847Think that just reinforce a crossover could work IMO.>>579625809Outskilling the input reading AI also work but it's more effort. I think there's also ways to cheese it even easier but I don't remember off the top of my head.>>579625471Congrats.Bulma is a tower tapping monster.
>>579631019It's funny how Gine is a legit Saiyan Warrior in terms of power, she was just too nice and that got her in trouble during genocides.It'd be like having a retired adventurer or Knight as your local butcher.
>>579637001Saiyan warrior powerlevels are kind of nothing, though. Raditz would be a total shitter if he didn't have the monkey mode button
>>579637073We've never seen a race where random footsoldiers have a higher power level than that tho.Freeza's army is made up of abnormally powerful mutants instead of any specific race and a random Saiyan with a power level of 1K is stronger than basically 99% of planets' world strongest warrior.The one exception were Namekians, who are themselves freaks and Demons, who are where the Namekians come from and live in an environment where you just have Dabura-level giant squids (again literally where the Namekians used to live).
>>579637073>>579637589Also interestingly, Raditz is noted as a weakling a few times but not Gine, she's always referred as 'too nice' rather than 'too weak'.
>>579637589>We've never seen a race where random footsoldiers have a higher power level than that tho.I mean, how many race's random footsoldiers have we seen, exactly? >>579637725Bardock would come for your ass if you called his wife weak. Which I imagine is a bigger insult in Saiyan society than simply being nice
>>579636829She's very fun but she's definitely broken as fuck. I joined a custom match from some person on YT and was 1 v 3ing a team and they complained for several minutes before throwing in the match.
>>579637805>I mean, how many race's random footsoldiers have we seen, exactly?I mean, all the ones we've seen were getting slaughtered by Saiyans so a bunch of unanamed aliens, earthlings, Freeza Race, Namekians, Cerealians and Arlians.
>>579638031Didn't saiyans explicitly have to push the monkey button against the Cerelians? We also have zero idea of what the average strength of frieza's race is, as his family are explicitly all mutants. Like we wouldn't exactly be able to extrapolate the strength of the average saiyan from Broly
>>579637805>Bardock would come for your ass if you called his wife weak. Which I imagine is a bigger insult in Saiyan society than simply being niceWhich is kinda funny because other saiyans would hold back from saying that because Bardock himself is the ONE dude you can count on to pull your ass out of the fire instead of just moving on in both versions.
>>579638156>Didn't saiyans explicitly have to push the monkey button against the Cerelians?Not really, Bardock was slaughtering people in his normal form and Saiyans still genocided the place after the Cerealians blew up the moon.>We also have zero idea of what the average strength of frieza's race is,I meant Freeza Force, who we know laugh at someone with a PL of 1K and in DBS Broly recruiters like Cheelai are supposed to find people with PLs of 1K or above, with a bonus if they find people with 4K or above.
>>579638024I'm surprised she hasn't been nerfed yet. I heard Goku God is pretty broken too.
>>579638535He is, ridiculous DPS from a high range. If we're following new character trends Gogeta is likely to be broken as fuck. Goku Black is good, too but not near as broken as previous P2W characters.
>>579639785Man, they better make Satan into the PERFECT Buu-partner if they ever make him.>>579640019He apparently has a heal too? Which is ridiculous for a DPS.>Goku Black is good, too but not near as broken as previous P2W characters.That means the next one is gonna be Ultimate Gohan levels of obnoxious, doesn't it?
>>579636829>Think that just reinforce a crossover could work IMONTA but WHY would that reinforce the idea?
>>579640656It's Super Gogeta next, in the final season before the game change. He's going to be broken as fuck. From what they showed he has some kind of counter type fighting style(?). Looked liked if you time your dashes right you can make an instant DPS comeback.
>>579642076Cause it means they visually fit.
>>579642108Oh boy, that's gonna be even worse than Ultimate Gohan.
>>579642445They don't though? The visuals are entirely surface level and not even actual direct references to one another. That's like saying Street Fighter should get in because of G Gundam or some shit.
when the fuck is the new dbs beerus trailer
>>579643120>Get inI'm talking about a crossover, like Marvel x Capcom.
>>579645201MvC is a fighting game with a broad approach to inclusivity for its cast, SRW is a tactical RPG with a much more specific type of series inclusion requirements. What you're wanting is probably something more like Namco x Capcom/Project x Zone.
>>579648487>A hundred thousandThat's dumb, he should be stronger than Ginyu
It's really sad that a dead mobile game getting an overhaul excites the community more than Xenofuckingverse 3. Over a decade of hype down the drain before the release date is confirmed...
>>579649681>It's crazy how people are talking about a new thing rather than just repeating themselves about something elseHypefaggots are so retarded
dios mio... he's here
>>579652146I don't get it.
>>579652146https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNvVBL1sX9o
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>>579652146lolHe's gonna get shit on.>>579652303It's AF Goku.
>>579652916>It's AF Goku.If you mean him, it's not Goku, it's the author's OC
>>579653125No, the artist is using Toyble's AF Goku. Not Tablos' (even though the design is just Tablos).
>>579653206I thought the stripes were black in Toyble's version, not red?
>>579653125Xicor, Forma SSJ FIVE
>>579541618>GEKISHIN SQUADRAI just found out this game even existed today because it's apparently getting the Deadlock treatment?I'm possibly down to play if it does.
