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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9563 - Hedgehog May Cry edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Blitz has been cancelled
https://x.com/saac_news/status/2090738578074579070?s=46
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI [Embed]
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthg-links
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>579479402

Thread Theme: https://youtu.be/R4xHe5jIMKc
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>>579569957
The BEER months are here, SeptemBEER, OctoBEER, NovemBEER, DecemBEER
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>it's terminal
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Are you doing whatever it takes to accomplish your goals? You're not just going to sit there and let life pass you by are you?
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>>579570149
I gave up on myself and my dreams a long time ago kid.
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Douge
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>>579570149
I write every day but I don't really feel like I'm getting better at it. Certainly not to the point where I'd be able to make it a living. A wagie I shall be until I die of the failures of American healthcare.
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>>579569091
>t. lore teammate asking for suggestions
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>>579570402
Knuckles and Wade killed this guy btw.
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I don't care how much you hate Ian. I will always consider Sega the bad guys.
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https://archiveofourown.org/works/79175501/chapters/244500496

Take good care of the friends you have.
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>>579570938
To me, they're both the villains.
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>>579570402
>>579570668
It was self defense.
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>>579570938
Hi, Ian.
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>>579571316
Hi weaboo
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Is it gay if you do it with your self?
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I hate foids so much. I had to talk to one today and holy fuck it wouldn't shut the fuck up.
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>>579571897
No. It's masturbation.
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>>579571897
Why is Nicky bigger than Sonic?
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>>579571971
you think rusty has a robo dick?
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Hey Whisper guy, this one's for you.
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Whisper has yellow legs
Amy does not have tan breasts
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Nicky "Sonic" Maurice "the" Hedgehog
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Whisper shaves for some cosplays. This is true and canon.
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I’ll be honest, I legit can’t name a single thing that IDW has bright in besides the current version of Amy that people still bitch about.
Stuff like The Restoration/Diamondcutters and it’s characters can be completely ignored by the next game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFJSWqb_Xkg
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>>579573017
Sonic and Silver having "vulnerable" sides
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>>579573303
I guess, but even that can be ignored in a new game
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>>579570938
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I want her back
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>>579574121
I genuinely do not believe Sonic Team knows or cares what is "canon" or not. Every game exists in isolation. The only way things exist outside their own game is if they become popular enough.
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>>579574121
this post is correct
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>>579574121
>Just accept the slop
Recons are inevitable, but in this case we are talking about the canon ending of the last game. And the only thing that changes is Sage surviving. Asking for what ending is Canon seems like the bare minimum
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>>579574578
Sage survives regardless
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>>579574578
Ian blatantly wants every game to be an "arc". That's why references are so dear to him.
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Shippers and their need to fight over everything killed sithg. There's probably a shipperfag reading this message right now thinking "Yeah it's those Knuxbunniefags who ruined sthg". No, I'm talking about all of you. If it crossed your mind that it was another shipperfag's fault, then it's your fault. You're all guilty.
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I love Tails <3
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>>579576320
i only ship characters with my cock
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>>579576320
Typical Tikougenigger, always deflecting blame
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>>579576320
It was the EliasWhisperfags and I can prove it
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Hugging Tails!
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>>579576320
It was probably the lack of video games that caused most people to leave. 95% of people don't read comics, even if they're a Sonic fan. For everyone else, they need a steady influx of games. So only the true autists who think liking Sonic gives them a personality are left behind.
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in the 2000s we were getting a new sonic game with an entire plot every year
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>>579576320
bignillafag hands typed this post
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Ken Penders reveals he always intended Big to end up with Vanilla and they have a sun who's a purple rabbit named Froggy
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Hugging femShadow!
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>>579577286
Does Shadow die in this version while Maria goes on to try to blow up the world?
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>>579576916
Even more than 1 sometimes and they had fun gameplay, good amount of varied and original content, with character focus and they introduced at least one new characters
They abandoned so many of the series' staples. I think Superstars is the only post-2006 game that feels complete and follows the formula. I guess Forces and Frontiers (with the updates) tried
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Why did the /vp/ Sonic thread last so long
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>>579577473
>>579576916
this is a problem endemic to the entire game industry, especially corporate games. everything is so bloated.
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>>579577697
/vp/ is the Sonic board now
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Killing Fails!
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Love Tails!!!!!!!!!!
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Hate Shitails!!!!!!!!!!
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>>579576320
Also kill all drawfags while we are at it.
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rotor fucked me
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Boyboyboyboyboy!
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
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'notha 'ails'edo 'pam.
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Girlgirlgirlgirlgirl!
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
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wolf and sqorrel <3<3<3
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I wanna hurl! ~_~;
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slutty bug
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>>579577876
>>579578052
I :transheart: posting my fetish material in the general again
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>>579579910
I wanna fug
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>>579581368
>>579581587
SAGE THE GENERAL NEXT TIME YOU BUFFOON
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John Rambo
John Constantine
John the Hedgehog
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Shitria spam has begun
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Weird request but does anyone have the photo of a coked up Shadow eating sushi off the back of a naked Rouge?
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Is it a fucking bot raiding us right now
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>>579576916
>>579577473
>>579577801
The problem is that the high performance of new consoles encourages developers to implement lots of features into the new games like open worlds, sharp graphics and lighting, and polished sound design. There's also the fact that GTA 6 is coming out this year and that game appeals to normies and Sonic Team hasn't found a Japanese writer and other Japanese staff like producers, artists, and designers yet. Those positions are open right now
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>>579582817
SSS kino
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>>579582909
It's just Sonic Channel featured fanart
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>>579582314
Cuuute!

>>579583003
I hope those positions are for the next game and not the one they've supposedly been making since 2023 otherwise the development situation is likely rough
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if i see one more fucking skill tree i swear to god
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>>579583659
Same here. Are they making 2 games right now?
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>>579584214
I think so. They've been hiring new employees for ST since 2023. Shadow Generations and CrossWorlds didn't have much involvement from Kishimoto's side
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Why does Sonic talk like that in SataM?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTjzjofFXyc
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>>579583790
What? You don’t want sonic to go 1% faster?
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>>579584393
Shadow Generations had better graphics, lighting, and frame rate than Frontiers. It also had a better hub world. Kishimoto didn't work on that game
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>>579584858
It's the interpretation Ben Hurst and Len Janson and those other guys had of SoA provided materials.

I find it funny that SoA said that Sonic says "Hasta la vistah, mistah", but the only writer that actually included that was Bollers. Not Penders or any other project.
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>>579585023
I didn't say he did
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>>579585240
I know but I was saying that I hope all future games implement all the good stuff from Shadow Generations
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I miss when Takashi Iizuka and Shiro Maekawa were involved in coming up with the story premise of Sonic games. They came up with really good stories
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>>579587315
Same. At least Iizuka did it for Superstars, maybe he's going to be more involved with game development again now
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>>579587315
That's because Shiro Maekawa is God
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>>579587416
That's what I'm hoping for. Back then, Iizuka was the director and lead designer of the games but now he is the lead producer and head of Sonic Team. It was Morio Kishimoto who came up with the story. If I'm not mistaken, Jyunpei Ootsu did that as well
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Next year's 2D Sonic is not a Classic game. It's a Sonic the Hedgehog 4 bundle that comes with Episodes I, II, Metal, and a brand new "Episode CD" bigger than the rest of the game combined that plays like a mix of Sonic CD and Advance in Superstars engine. Working title: "Sonic the Hedgehog 4 & More". Release goal: around when the movie starts streaming.
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>>579588379
playable trip?
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>>579588379
Source? This is 2026. 2D games are niche, Sonic 4 (the game was bad and lazy), and Amy deserves a 3D game too, not just Shadow
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>>579588379
This would be cool if true, although I would prefer an Ep 3 over an Ep CD
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>>579588379
>What the CD remake rumour turned out to be
sadly believable.
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>>579588742
Same, though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx3BsXBseMw
Gn
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>>579588742
Maybe it's been too long and whatever that concept was is now long-lost. Wasn't Dimps making it? What's the last Sonic game they did?
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>>579589526
Lost World 3DS, which was just as bad as Lost World Wii U somehow.
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>>579589236
Goodnight Kit!
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>>579570938
This is just every media brand ever.
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>>579589236
Goodnight!

>>579589526
>Wasn't Dimps making it?
No, actually. It was going to be made by a SEGA division in Australia with Retro Engine developers as part of the team. Ep 3 got canceled as a result of that Australian division getting closed
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>>579570938
...Doesn't this apply to pretty much any fictional universe?
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>>579590000 (Me)
Sourcing my claim: https://forums.sonicretro.org/threads/sonic-4-episode-iii-cancelled-according-to-ken-balough.33870/#post-812204
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>>579589801
No. Most brands will tell you want ending is canon of instead being a vague little faggots like Kishimoto
https://x.com/soniccitynet/status/2094758881557659769
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>>579590316
There's no way they kill off Sage. She's too popular.
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TANABA-
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This tweet makes me laugh so fucking hard.
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>>579575345
>NICE COCK, BRO.
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>>579590557
She lives in both endings so it doesn't matter. You've already been told this once today.
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Everything is going to be fine. Sonic is in good hands right now. The next game will be great and we will all love the story.
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>>579590728
I don't ger it
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>>579590896
Yes!
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>>579590876
>Anon thinks everyone is the same person
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>>579591276
Then there are two retards who said the exact same thing twice today because they didn't play the game, I don't care.
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>>579591452
Only one implied Eggman didn't make a new one. You are to stupid to figure out who
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>>579570951
>lion maru

https://youtu.be/hhS2Q_zP5sw

How old are you to know this?
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>>579590876
continuity of consciousness was broken in one ending, with significant memories lost. eggman didn't 'revive' sage, he created a new instance of her.
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>>579572651
One would think someone would stop with this shit after months of nobody being triggered by those, but no
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:)
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>>579592913
Fuck off Woefag
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>>579590896
Not true. Sonic isn't with Allstate insurance
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>>579592571
You are pulling the memory loss out your ass
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>>579590316
Why does this matter? Both end with Sage being alive.
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>>579590865
Huh? Oh thanks, I grew it myself.
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girl's day out :)
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>>579593592
Not really
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>>579593991
Explain.
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>>579594035
No.
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>>579590316
What a lame non answer. Did his decision to let the English and Japanese scripts be so different operate under the same dumb logic?
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>>579593592
It might have mattered if this was early 2000s, but modern Sonic Team doesn't give a shit about themes larger than 'punch big enemy'. We'll get no meaningful consequences to internal existential crises of identity.
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I mean, which Frontiers ending do /we/ prefer?
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>>579594437
the hidden ending where amy realizes her love for sonic is built on a lie. on a house of cards. fortune teller cards.
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>>579594437
First one makes more sense even if I don't like Eggman casually building as many daughters as he wants
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goodnight. sleep well.
metal is best son
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Idk what's the current status of Frontiers, but I remember that one time there was no point playing Amy, Tails and Knux because their attacks were weak as fuck, so they changed it, but they were OP as fuck and there was no point in playing Sonic after that ""balance""
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>>579570938
>>579590316
>the ending maybe be true or it may not be true
>still, the truthness of one ending doesn't mean the other is invalid
>listen, we fucked up so manty times in unpredictable ways let's just say our canon is whatever is convenient at the moment
You must appreciate how much a bunch of corponiggers try their best to sound like le heckin' mangaka with complex philosophical takes and deep lore, and yet despite being japanese themselves they really can't get a grip on anything but LARP.

It's pitiful.
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>>579570938
I wouldn't take this seriously since this is very old
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I can tell u guys never read the actual article from sonic channel, kishimoto basically said its up to the player which ending they prefer, i dont think theres a problem since sage still manages to live in both endings
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>>579595474
Wanna know how I know that the "person" who wrote this is black and therefore don't have anything worth listening to?
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>>579595474
I agree with Treeta
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>>579595342
It's very old but it's very relevant today
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>WHA HAPPUN STAYVUN? WHAS THE TRUE SONIC CANON STAYVUN?
>>i don't know...
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T KNOW STAYVUN, YOU SAW IT YOSELF NO? DAT SAGE GIRL DIED AT THE END
>i don't know...
>STAYVUN YA NEED TO CHOOSE, BOTH THINGS CAN'T HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME!
>i don't know...
>DAYUM STEAVEN...
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>>579595747
Are you having another schizo meltdown?
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>>579595975
It's actually a meme regarding some retarded cop's attempt at interrogation.
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>>579595975
>being this much of a newfag
Aren't you busy blowing another hundred on fagnite?
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>>579596007
Aren't memes supposed to be funny? That guy assassinated a girl. That's Iram MacDaniels. Or Stephan McDaniels, dunno.
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>>579596082
>Aren't memes supposed to be funny? That guy assassinated a girl
Don't say nigger on the internet, you could offend someone.
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>>579596326
Stephen MacDaniel, right.
Dunno who Iram MacDaniel is, probably another white dude who assassinated an innocent girl.
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>>579596326
The good guys are always better.
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Killing is good, actually
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>>579596082
Aren't you supposed to be a man? You pussy
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Holy fuuuuuuuuuuck
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>>579597069
I accept your surrender.
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>>579597129
I don't usually fap to bottom Shadow but...*unzip*
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>>579594437
i think it really depends on the pros and cons of both when it comes to gameplay and their purposes to the story
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>>579597129
post something better, this is awful to look at (the artstyle, not the gay shit)
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>>579597129
post something better, this is awful to look at (the gay shite, not the artstyle)
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>>579597670
There is nothing wrong with the artstyle
>>579597773
There is nothing wrong with the gay shit
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>>579597129
post something better, this is awful to look at (the characters, not the gay shit)
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>>579582439
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>>579598005
Thanks Krack
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>>579582439
>>579598005
You're an ant right?
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Crossworlds MIGHT be a better game than MK World after all
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I can't find blobians attractive. I like boobs and butts but the actual faces don't do it for me.
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>>579598130
Always was
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>>579598083
Not ur boogiegoddess
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Fionic the foxhog.
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>>579598147
Same. I love the human characters like Maria or Merlina, but I'm not a furry, so all the others leave me as flaccid as Trump trying to sleep with a girl that's above 12.
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>>579598130
It would be if it weren't filled with hacks.
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>>579598147
Too bad, maybe some furry trash like pokemon is more your speed
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>>579598285
kek
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Reminder: The Sonic Advance trilogy can't be re-released outside of Japan cause THQ Nordic has the international rights.
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I was going to make the best post OAT but I forgor
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>>579592493
There are certain things that you shouldn't ask a person, anon.

But that's a famous tokusatsu from the 70's, and that story is set in a time similar to the 70's, so I though it would be fitting.
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So Mario Kart 8 just got an update for Switch 2....Man, how much of a fucking failure was Mario Kart World and how badly did it lose to Crossworlds?
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>>579598493
Not into Pokemon or anything that looks too nonhuman
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>>579599593
i doubt that last part considering it was a launch title, but MKW really is lacking in content
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>>579594437
The Final Horizon
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Anon is 50 years old
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>>579599839
I'm only 30.
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>>579599839
I’m 37 actually.
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>>579599815
Turns out, making GTA without the ability to bang and murder hookers is very boring.
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I... I like... S-SONIC THE HEDGEHOG!

I like sonic the hedgehog despite the bullshit.
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>>579595474
What a stupid post. There is nothing wrong with Sonic rescuing a princess.
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>>579599819
what are some things you like and dislike about final horizon anon?
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>>579590256
>Everything is canon
>There is no canon
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>>579600165
How everything can be nothing
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>>579600165
Canon is whatever Sonic Team's whim happens to be in a given decade. Also Sega of America lying about their licensed tie-ins.
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>>579599925
I thought it was a good idea. Like, if the tracks were actually open world and people had multiple paths to reach the goal. But it was just a very large hub world
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>>579600276
it's good, but it was not executed properly
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>>579599593
I dunno, I bought both
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>>579600035
I like that it's more flashy and exciting, more stuff happens, Tails Knuckles and Amy are involved, Eggman does something cool, we learn more about the Ancients and even specific pilots
The only things I dislike is that cutscene where Amy and Sage become atheists. And that animation/texturing issue in the last cutscene which is unchanged from the base game and they never fixed, I am the only person in the world who's bothered by it
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>>579600286
there is no reason to be upset
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Ruins.
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>believing the word of anyone who doesn't work for Sonic Team or SoJ, the ones who actually make games
ISHYGDDT
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I work for Sonic Team and Sega of Japan
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>>579599593
I doubt it lost on sales, but as far as I know, something about the online mode and ranking of MKW made people annoyed enough to switch to other titles. So it has fewer players than Crossworld.
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>>579600465
Thanks Shadow but I'm not into aliens
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>I am sorry, Sonic. but the princess is in another base
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What was the RDSK decompiles? Nobody does anything with them.
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>>579601112
rdsk?
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>>579601417
RSDK i.e. Retro Engine decompiles. Nothing ever came about from them. No fangames, no definite versions of the classic Sonic games. No porn (though there was child grooming). What was even the point?

>Typo
Fuck
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>>579601538
>>579601112
You mean like Unleashed Recompile we got? Last I hear about recomps people found success putting the AI monkey to code a lot of data, but those games weren't about Sonic
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>>579601872
>You mean like Unleashed Recompile we got?
No I mean the RSDK decompiles.

https://github.com/RSDKModding

Nothing came from this. At least the decompiles of the OG Genesis games gave us the Sonic Worlds Engine which lead to Spark the Chad Electric Jester and well, the Retro Engine. What was the point of decompiling the Retro Engine?

>Unleashed Recompile
Recompiles are just emulators but better. It's doesn't compare to a decompile.
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>100 issues of comic run in the span of 10 years
>nothing happens
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>>579603765
It's weird that IDW is supposed to explore the vulnerable emotions but also it has lower stakes than the games. I'm supposed to believe the metal virus had Sonic quaking with indecision while being aware he's seconds from dying in secret rings had no effect
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>>579601538
Sonic 1 Forever and Sonic 2 Absolute uses the RSDK and are considered the definitive versions of those games
despite using a different physics engine from the original games
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>>579604062
I think they should cancel it, because you either turn it into a real old-fashioned comic book like archie where characters have backstories, they grow up and evolve even if it's bullshit, or you keep it static just for the sake of canon.

Comics books are that hard to work with, in fact the strategy is not to sell more but to make them cheaper than how they are already.
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>>579604062
Secret rings only involve himself.
Metal virus lasted several days and was miserable for everyone, not even Sonic and his friends.
I think if you had to write a Sonic game you will do exactly the same stupid shit Shadow 05 did. Everyone in total sense of despair because of these aliens killing people and Shadow in the middle of his existencial crisis while Sonic is just having fun completely oblivious to others people's feelings like a moron who can't read the room.
Retard
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>>579604876
Wouldn't it be funny if Shadow 05 was how Jeff Fowler learned about Sonic's personality
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I had a very naughty dream. I dreamed I was holding hands with a girl
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>>579604545
I wanna spank Maria.
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>>579605607
Take your weird spanking obsession elsewhere.
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Sonic
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>>579604876
Aren't you people always saying Sonic is a selfish freak who only cares about himself instead of Amy?
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Silver
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>>579604876
If Sonic dies in Secret Rings then Erazor escapes into the real world and kills everyone
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>>579606337

Quite a stretch but i wonder if nazo from x trailer had an effect on silver's design
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>>579606470
Nah, Sonic trust his friends to defeat him if Sonic dies
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Shadow
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>>579606580
Just like in Forces how Sonic's friends was able to defeat Eggmans army when Sonic was supposedily "gone"
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>>579574121
This is kinda how you should write them in general.
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>>579606580
>>579606863
Secret Rings was a pre-meta era game, so does that mean everyone would find a way?
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Metal
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>>579606580
>Silver&Blaze showing up to combo attack Erazor to death than immediately leave
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>>579607271
The combo attack was appearently going to be in 06 but it's unfortunately in absolutely no game
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>>579590316
>Most brands will tell you want ending is canon
Pokemon doesnt
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>>579607728
Does pokemon have diff endings
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>>579604876
What do you faggots want Sonic to do? Cry?
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>>579595474
I really hate people who do this kind of thing. Sonic is not defined first ans completely by just being le opposite of whatever Mario is.
That's retarded.
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>>579607470
Dang really? Silver and Blaze would legit whoop ass if they worked together matter of fact have we EVER really see them box someone up together??? I feel like all they do is talk which is fine
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>>579569957
>Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
>DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 02 September 2026
>Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
>Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026
Why so much Sonic comic stuff in this month? today justice league and godzilla
next week I assume we meat Blackheart for real
and at the end of the month, actually I dunno are we staying on Blackheart or jumping to another character's story? they obviously aren't gonna reveal our mystery man til the end of the year and as far as I know none of the other characters like the chaotix, the diamond cutters and deliquent duo have anything going on
Shadow's not allowed to have arcs on his own in IDW so I doubt him
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>>579607096
In Rush, everyone treats the dimensions collapsing like its no big deal because Sonic will fix it
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>>579608170
IDW have us this...
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>>579606470
Chadow and Chadver are still alive.
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>>579608319
>Why so much Sonic comic stuff in this month
We didnt have anything in August

Blackheart?
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>>579607786
Pokemon has straight up different versions of the same game and thus story.

Kirby has multiple endings anf stories that are vaguely canon.

Megaman BattleNetwork as well.
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bets on what might happen at #100 and what do you think comes after?
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>playing Mgs4
I miss Quinton Silver guys...
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>>579608319
That's how comics/Manga are sometimes plus they gotta wrap up this anniversary
>>579608421
JUST TO DO THIS
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Shadow and Tangle interaction?
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>>579608170
The last times we've ever seen Blaze and Silver work together post 06 are
Sonic Colors where they bully Orbot and Cubot
Sonic Team Racing where they threaten Dodonpa together until Sonic calms them down
Sonic Channel where they pack up a monster that had them brainwashed into believing they were simply a maid and a butler

not even in the comics have those two fought someone together Master overlord was fought by the rest of Sonic's companions while Blaze was tasked with destroying his fleet of battleships she burned out her burning blaze form to do it, Silver kept everybody afloat when Master overlord smashed their resistance shuttle and nearly burned himself out doing it taking both of them out of the fight.

this arc assuming they actually get to fight together will be the first time they do so in sonic media canon since fought the monster in the sonic channel short story, I believe that short story was published back in 2015 or so.

For comparison's sake Shadow's last action scene was the Solar/Lunar arc with his little dust up against Sonic and Blade of Courage
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>>579608559
One day hopefully I'm more interested in Shadow and Whisper finally talking >>579608554
Right? Even pokemon and fnaf feel like there news cycle is here and there
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Frontiers sucks because everyone keeps going "Sonic will fix it" and it ruins the depressing tone the game is going for
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>>579608676
Frontiers had a "depressing tone"?
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>>579608554
>PSI and Chaos Energy gives red sparks
Frauds
Blue + Yellow = Green
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>>579608660
Pokemon World Championship dropped no new game trailer to everyone shock and fnaf is only just rolling out game stuff it's been just book stuff and riddles
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>>579608532
Nothing significant to the series, and business as usual. Same as the last 100 issues.
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>>579608676
but that's in character for them, they behaved the same way in Sonic rush, sonic battle, sonic generations, sonic colors, sonic adventures 1 and 2. the advance series and sonic unleashed, it's stuff like that motivated archie writers, boom writers, prime writers to write Sonic as kinda a fuck up, someone to doubt and even have charaters mad at him, in short, they made him flawed when in game canon sonic is not flawed, blade of courage writes more in line with game canon, sonic x writes more in line with game canon, the one game the deviated from sonic's success rate and flaws was lost world and everyone hated it. sonic's not allowed to have flaws, he's like mickey mouse, mario and bugs bunny, always right, always wins, only loses in comedic moments and non threatening entities.
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>>579588742
What if there's room for DLC?
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>>579608660
>One day hopefully I'm more interested in Shadow and Whisper finally talkin
But there's nothing to talk about from either of them
The shadow androids are not shadow himself, whisper recognizes that and understands that, not to mention she's the type to really only talk about this sorta thing with tangle or lanolin,that's how they wrote her

Shadow's the type who doesn't give a shit about this type of thing and doesn't care about other people's problems as they predain to himself until their issues get in his way in some way which in this case, they don't.

thus there's no reason for either of them speak to each other on this issue.
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>>579608986
Sonic does have flaws they are just not the focus.
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>>579608856
>just book stuff

I'm happy about all these Sonic comics and the one manga and I'm so pumped for pic related as well it one my favorite fnaf stories also glad to see the updated art too
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>Why is this series titled "Sonic the Hedgehog" about Sonic the Hedgehog?
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>>579609094
People want them to trauma bond or something.
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>>579609180
>anime girls take care of your ever need

Kek yeah this story was wild
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Shadow and Knuckles are the only ones who don't interact with the OCs.
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>>579607901
>>579609302
Really noticing the IDWfags trying to get uppity in /sthg/ of all places.
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>>579609180
Hatsune Miku vibes heavy with her
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>>579608986
>but that's in characte
WHO CARES?
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>>579609708
Basically The Bobbie dots are also very Doki Doki inspired vr/ar tech is insanely advanced for whatever reason
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>>579609302
that makes no sense, especially with how Inzuka has made clear serveral times that the only one in shadow's close range will be maria, everyone else are either obstacle or not worth notice other than "rivals" shadow's pretty simple, you fit into 1 of 3 categories with him "obstacle", "rival" and "acquaintance"

>>579609414
very true, in the 8 years IDW has been going Knuckles nor Shadow have ever once spoken to a single comic original character goes to show you sega does not want them talking to any of them or rather shows it's in character for neither of them to have anything to do with the comic OCs as they've yet to come into direct conflict with any of them
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sonic being a sore loser in character. see how jet kicks his butt
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>>579609823
>Inzuka
Takashi INzuka? More like Takeashit inSANE!
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Sonic is going to die as soon as the movies stop being good
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Are we going to get story time x2 today?
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>>579609708
>Her name is Gemini

Scott really predicted this ai shit
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>iizuka lesucka
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>>579610091
No, they both come out in a week
OPs are fags who dont care
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>>579609180
I want to know if Ben likes Sonic too in the new comic series
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>>579610056
Sega is just gonna team up with Sony, Universal or another studio to make a new series of Sonic movies
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:sigh: he thinks he's a comedian again....
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>>579610587
I love his XLR8 design
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>>579609823
Knuckles interacts with one in the most recent arc though. But yes, unless people literally come and fuck with him or he's just happened to be in the area he doesn't often interact with a lot of people comic or otherwise
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>>579610641
Don't Doomiona, Do Happiona.
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>>579610640
And Lizooka Bazooka will pull a Shigeyryu Miiyatomo and coproduce,bringing back the Sawnick/Mayro CONSOLEWAAAAAARS
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>>579610587
>>579610737
>buzzsaw wheels now
>the blushing names

Don't be shocked if something Sonic related does happen i really like this new take yeah the story and pacing is weird but the visuals and lore is great

I also like that it takes place in modern day even Ben has to deal with Scalpers running his beloved Sumo Slammers kek
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>>579611032
will try, thank you happiona. have a güd day
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>>579611251
>Amy's black panties
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>>579611543
And remember, whenever you feel down, just smugiona.
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>>579611396
Ben was always a rude buster but this new Ben clearly has behavioral issues real bad nasty attitude too
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>>579611793
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>>579599568
I respect Sonic's strength and trust him implicitly.
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>>579611732
why are you checking little girls panties, paulandamy?
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>>579611251
duude what if that thingfell on them lmao
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>>579608754
It's light not paint. Cyan + yellow would be a total white light
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>>579610737
Based af
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>>579611995
It's a CERO Officer! WE'VE BEEN HAD!! ABANDON THREAD!!! AIIIIIIIIIIIIYEEEEAURGH!!!!
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Sol Control
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>>579608452
And all those are garbage and worse than Sonic
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>>579612413
>It only makes her fly and shoot more fire
Sol emerald status: FRAUD
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>>579612291
Alt cover way cooler
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Scourge x Belle
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>>579608986
It's not really that Sonic doesn't have flaws. Its that he is supposed to be a reliable guy, which is a very attractive "masculine" trait.
This is also why Tails has one of his core desires to be seen as reliable.
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>>579612135
Oh
They didnt tell me about it in school
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>>579608452

Usually with minor differences like which legendary you catch or battle, though i usually assumed the third versions are the canon.
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>>579608986
No, Tails' Lawyer. Sonic doesn't need to be knocked down a peg to make Tai- i mean the extended cast look better.
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>>579609094
>>579609302
No, I want them to edge loner bond. Not necesarily become friends. But more whisper goes and him work together due to circumstance and Shadow through just being himself imparts important leasons for her to grow.
You know, like Sonic does. But with Shadow.
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>>579612916

I'm not sure if gender traits were the intent there, i am thinking it's moreso about what oshima talked about sonic being a fairy or spirit or why he is sent in someone's life to solve a grief cycle.
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>>579612760
Why heavy XLR8 promo for Zombozo tho
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>>579612527
The why are you complaining?
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>>579612992
>Usually with minor differences like which legendary you catch or battle,
Entire things like the skin color and design and personalities of characters as well as implied alt reality shit, actually.
According to ORAS, every instance of every playtrhough of every game is technically an alt reality.
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>>579613339
Lol i think i only played alt versions up to gen 4/5, only played one version for 3d ones.
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I started to value the Twitter takes over more when you realize it's the only time Shadow is allowed to be funny
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I need that four headed cock in my womb
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>>579613124
Shadow isn't a guide like Sonic.
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>>579613389
>>579613339
The alternative dimension plot started with gen 5 with that zone you had with a weird twisted tree that you use to connect with other players
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>>579613508
Yes he is.
He is smart and intelligibility and would pass on lessons to others.
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>>579613449
You don't, you will destroy your insides and never feel pleasure ever again
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>>579613568

I am an emulatorshitter for private reasons
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>>579613508
Was he not kinda that for Silver?
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>>579613164
i think its very much a "he's supposed to be reliable because its a positive teait for a guy character to have"
It's not really essential for what you described, independant of it being "muh gender" or not.
Bill Clinton's "get it done" attitude allegedly was part of his conception.

Sonic is supposed to be a guy you can count on to get the job done even when shit seems dire.

Doesn't mean he is perfect or even that he always wins or never makes mistakes. But generally the people around him that know him know he has a way of getting shit done.
Even Knuckles, who is kind of s dick to Sonic and condescending about his ways will be like "that's guys a pain in the rear but he has a way of getting things done".
Someone like Shadow recognizes this and sees it as making Sonic dangerous and a threat. Eggman is too egotistical to respect it and sees his propensity to do so as a challenge.
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>>579613216
Ghostfreak isn't in the watch line up for now probably dynamite comics Ben roaster is slightly different from the og

He still has those nightmares linked to Ghostfreak
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Next game will have new costumes for everyone, but all the costumes will be hello kitty themed
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>>579613837

I just feel like people attribute gender autism to the characters intent far more than intended (sonic doesn't cry because muh masculinity when shadow and silver are both shown crying on screen) or that supposedly maria/cosmo/blaze ''die'' because they are girl dying for protagonist trope etc. instead of them actually examining themes of things like this. I am not saying such things were absolutely no factor but people overblow them to proportion for virtue signalling purposes instead of actually examining them critically (sonic is a creature of hope and wishes, willpower and shit so he has to stay positive as long as he can, for example being a better explanation than gender)
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>>579613848
The fucking water gun alien got in???? Why ughhh it's Sticks all over again for me
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>>579613848
Heatblast Modern >Heatblast Classic
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>>579613508
All of the core cast are/should be really.
Shadow is supposed to be thr Blacl Wind to Sonic's Wind.
That's literally the point.

So Shadow should be dark paragonfagging. That's how you use his character unless you just wanna reread his arc again.
Same with Amy and Tails frankly.


Most of the issues with iDW when it comes to writing the character sis they focus on the wrong things.

They want the characters to be changed instead of playing to their strengths.

I still say Tails would have made way more sense as the one to help Soleil instead of Sonic.

Tails is the one who grew up being bullied and mistreated for being born different and who saw comfort via his admiration of Sonic and grew because of it.

Trial By Fire did a decent job applying this with Amy.
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>>579614331
Would you consider Shadow testing yuuta in BoC as an example of teaching like sonic but darker?

>>579613508
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>>579614084
I agree. Its an issue with that kind of discourse in general. Basically they use the arguments wrong because its basically their way of saying "its not a me problem, its the media's fault" when in reality its them looking for it everywhere and treating surface level correlation as bad.

Its like people eho shit and piss whenever a gitl character has any degree of pink in their design.


But conversely, I think trying to pretend there are no masculine traits and no character is ever designed with them is arguably worse. Trying to treat all masculine traits as just "generically positive human traits" is itself downstream of eurocentric philo bullshit that scholars and academia types never question in the first place because they buy into neoliberal value propositions as a default.

The fact we are sperging out over the idea that "being seen as reliable" in the way Sonic is and how Tails aspires towards is "problematic" os playing by their retarded standards. Masculine reliability is good for boys and men actually. The problem is when we create this uniform model of what each gender HAS to be like to be like and express itself to be considered good and make it universal.
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>>579614109
Nobody likes ripjaws also this new omnitrix is a nightmare to deal with so he need a more reliable water alien
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>>579614831
>Would you consider Shadow testing yuuta in BoC as an example of teaching like sonic but darker?
Sure actually. I think testing people in general fits his character. Ive said before that if they ever did make Classic Shadow, he should be like MetaKnight but less friendly.

One of his interactions with Sonic in Colors DS is him doing similar towards Sonic actually.
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>>579612413
It doesn't work that way, it could be Sol Shift
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>>579614868

I mean i get it but when a female character acts as a guide or inspires others or has others rely on her it isn't portrayed or seen as the audience as her being masculine but just another female stereotype. like masculinity or femininty isn't really that concrete to begin with unless it's blatant.
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>>579615040
Personally, I think Sol Control sounds better, and I like the idea of the alternate dimension having a rhyme instead of alliteration, plus it lends to the possibility of story beats in which the two abilities are used in tandem (talking about Chaos Control here)
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>>579615231
>I mean i get it but when a female character acts as a guide or inspires others or has others rely on her it isn't portrayed or seen as the audience as her being masculine but just another female stereotype.
Like?
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>>579614961
Big oof I would feel bad for him but this brat is a menace
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>>579615357
So throw away her design, propose and independence in hopes of giving her potential leeching off other characters? sounds like we tried this before
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>Anarchy Beryl Control!
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>>579615482

The oneechan stereotype or guardian angel stereotypes, they are seen as motherly or older sister types instead of masculine. even though they are an example of other characters relying on them.
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>>579615530
That's a pretty big leap from what I said bro
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>>579615556
Tranic aka Surge
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>>579615357
Chaos Control comes from the idea of controlled chaos. (The idea that freedom leads to its own hormonious flow and balance) which ties into the ULF having the ability to control the power of the Chaos Emeralds.
What does Sol Control even mean or do?
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>>579615526
Disgusting
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>>579615626
Literally the exact same thing, Blaze works as a mirror counterpart to everything in Sonics world, and you're focusing on forgetting somethings she owns to keep sticking to Sonics world
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No more bonds for Shadow
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>>579615575
>The oneechan stereotype or guardian angel stereotypes, they are seen as motherly or older sister types instead of masculine.
Sure, but they aren't really seen as "that person you can count on to always get the job done even when things look dire".
They are more seen as "the person you go to for comfort when you don't know what to do or aren't feeling well".

You say the distinctions between the two arent cut and dry, and i agree, and yet we still can and do observe and feel the difference. So thats a limit of language, not the absence of the distinction.
Shits vibes.
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>>579615664
Scourge will never troon out.
But he may have sex with a guy if he is submissive enough
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Sonic should never be vulnerable. You should be able to mouthrape Tails in front of him and it wouldn't affect his mood.
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>check out this ben 10 comic being posted cause I had zero clue anything official was being released
>New volume released just now
>XLR8 on the cover


How does sthg keep doing this
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>>579615834
No more Gods
No more Graves
Are you friend or fiend?
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>>579615689
it ain't that deep lmao, also flames are essentially the physical embodiment of chaos as a concept so this is a really silly conversation to have
>>579615767
That's not what I said at all, what you said and what I said are completely different, and keeping the alliteration format is the same as sticking to Sonic's world's conventions in almost the same exact way as what I said.
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>>579616008
Anything Blue and Fast is blessed by our speed aura
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>>579615871

I feel like the difference itself is more arbitrary and vibez itself than something concrete.

i guess the most concrete difference is that the older brother type is more actiony but reduing sonic's reliability to actiony stuff in itself is, idk.
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playing_partner_like_bagpipes
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>Ara Ara
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>>579616061
This character is an absolute failure.
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>>579616259
>>579615575

don't like to reply to coom spam but it's a funny coincidence this shitpost was posted while i was talking about what i was talking about
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>>579616008
Am crazy or is this new Zombozo and Circus freaks kind of fnaf inspired
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Ben 10 was never good
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>>579616352
Yup
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>>579616352
>calling the circus freaks FNAF inspired
They were made before fnaf, if anyone cares to watch the old show...
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>>579616350
Sonic has massive tits for you to rest your face. It's never a coincidence to compare Sonic with an onee-chan
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>>579616554
toenail man
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Do Ben and Gwen get along
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>>579616061
>also flames are essentially the physical embodiment of chaos
No, historically water and air have been associated with chaos.
Fire is associated with live , warmth, consumption and destruction
>it ain't that deep
I literally got it from a japanese guide.
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>FNAF
>original
There's so much buried old shit to get inspired by you could pull out a new IP every now and then.
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>>579613009
The extended cast shouldn’t be knocked down to make Sonic look better either, but that’s what actually happened
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>>579616631
Don't
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>>579616879
I'd knock up Merlina if you know what I mean.
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>>579616217
>I feel like the difference itself is more arbitrary and vibez itself than something concrete.
I dont agree but do you think vibes don't matter?
>i guess the most concrete difference is that the older brother type is more actiony but reduing sonic's reliability to actiony stuff in itself is, idk.

I mean, both Sonic and Amy are action-y and yet the way they lead in Heroes is different.
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I want to congratulate /sthg/ for talking about Ben10 for 1 hour and not posting incest porn. Impressive
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>>579616631
Not much they have moments showing they care but the comics is taking Ben in a troubled youth route so its mostly just him literally trying to harm her or being disrespectful to her and Max
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>>579617013

Amy will come as girly no matter what due to aesthetics, cutesy or girly mannerisms, being more openly emotional etc. but i feel that's more flavor than the quality of being reliable itself
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>>579617023
>talking about Ben10 for 1 hour and not posting incest porn
It's weird, it's really strange. Am i still inside the internet?
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>>579617274
>>579617013

Also what i mean by ''vibez'' it's mainly supported by things like visuals or mannerisms being cute vs cool
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>>579616879
>The extended cast shouldn’t be knocked down to make Sonic look better either, but that’s what actually happened
No it isn't. Also go back to Xwitter.
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>>579616965
>Merlina over a blobian
Fake fan
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>>579617267
Oh no. It's more of the writer self-inserting xis childhood in the character.

>>579617459
Sorry, but elf ears >>>>>>>>> everything.
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If Sonia and Shadow have sex, is it incest? Shadow looks like Sonic, so he looks like Sonia's brother
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>>579617452
Yes it is. Go back to r*ddit
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>>579617274
Team Rose works more of of trust and Amy supporting them emotionally and encouraging them whereas Sonic it's jist him being reliable.
>>579617446
>Also what i mean by ''vibez'' it's mainly supported by things like visuals or mannerisms being cute vs cool
Those factor but I think that's reductive.
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>>579617558
>Yes it is.
You're too young to post here if you believe this.
>reddit
Redditors are the ones that have your same opinion.
You have scarcity mindset because you grew up in your friend or siblings shadow growing up or something. I swear.
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>>579618092

don't really want to debate further rn but just out of curiosity can you name female characters perceived as masculine or male characters perceived as feminine without vibez or flavor factoring into it as the main thing? i am kinda curious how it works to you.
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>>579617506
Wasn't ben always like that
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>>579617267
Max is looking foxy~
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>>579618562
yea Max is hot as fuck now
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>>579618287
>female characters perceived as masculine or male characters perceived as feminine
I don't think that exists. If I described them ,you would just say it sounds like a guy/girl. I think in general treating language as thr mark of truth and treating things like "vibes" as "noise" is flawed.

I think reducing it all to aesthetics is reductive, but I dont think it isn't relevant either.
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>>579618181
The rest of the cast was inarguably sidelined/made incompetent to placate only playable Sonic. That is a hard concrete fact you refuse to acknowledge because you’re either a shameless shill or you just hate the characters, pick one
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>>579618287
>can you name female characters perceived as masculine or male characters perceived as feminine without vibez or flavor factoring into it as the main thing?
Define flavor.

Also
>male
Steven from Steven Universe
>female
Abby from Malcolm in the Middle
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>>579619404
>inarguably sidelined
That's not the same thing as "made inferior to make Sonic look good".
It was done because boomers hated Sonic's shitty friends and wanted them sidelined because they didnt want anything to do with them.
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>>579619441

flavor as in where aesthetics(dressing style, or simply feminine masculine in looks) or mannerisms of being cutesy or flamboyant or overly soft. or being more ''cool'' or more crass and rough etc. are added on top of whatever quality that is being defined as fem or masc.
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Whenever Sonic's friends are made playable, the gameplay is compromised one way or the other.

Sonic's gameplay was designed specifically with Sonic in mind. This is why Shadow gets attention but everyone else less so.
Older fans complained abput Sonic's friends because they saw them as forced tedium getting int he way of just getting to play as Sonic aka the fun part.
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>>579619674
Okay but then youre just defining it out of the definition lol.
It's kind like asking "define a sport without competition or taking the activity seriously and being disciplined"
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>>579619838

Classics could do it better i think
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>>579619581
That’s what inferior means dipshit. If they’re not used, that equivocally means they’re not useful. And in the fleeting moments they WERE actually used, they were shells of themselves because we need Sonic to be the big hero and save everyone. This was literally the whole plot of Forces. You are said boomer
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>>579618729
Zeti Cave Zone


Grandpa Max
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>>579619838
If Shadow is similar enough to Sonic’s gameplay then Tails Knuckles Amy etc all easily can be too. This is just cherry picking based on ST’s own clear favoritism
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YIPPIEEEEEE
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>>579620567
Zeena x Max art THIS FUCKING INSTANT
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>>579619838
Sonic Heros was designed to prevent this problem it still sucked. There is no excuse
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>>579620567
>>579620717
He actually getting new lewd art/animation currently you could get it commissioned
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If he had a mobian transformation it's so over for the rest of male mobian kind
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>checking Sonic media outside /sthg/ just to check what Blaze and Silver fags are doing
>they are already fighting completely unprovoked
I love how they are all acting so defensive because they know the perfect storm is brewing in IDW
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>>579620095
Even with Classic it never made sense.
Why is Tails spinning when he's a fox with no spines?
Why is Knuckles fast?

>>579620574
See above
>>579620773
Heroes had to give everyone something to do so you had combat sections and walls to break with Knuckles and enemies you had to knock down and stun and switches and gaps to do with Tails.

The average player that hates Heroes hates it because they just try to play as Speed formation as much as possible and complain whenever the game punishes them for it.
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IDW was good this year. Stop complaining.
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>>579620306
>That’s what inferior means
Learn English, ESL. You're equivocating.
Those aren't the same thing. You just treat them as such because you didnt get enough attention at home when tou were 6 and blamed your siblings existing for it.
>If they’re not used, that equivocally means they’re not useful.
"Being playable" isn't the extent of a character's usefulness, let alone their value.
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>>579621417
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>>579622360
it's hard to guess what this poll is about
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>>579622454
Who should get drawn by the user
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>>579622210
>"Being playable" isn't the extent of a character's usefulness, let alone their value.
It is to Sonic Team apparently, when you’re not playable they treat you like a joke
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>>579623128
No anon, that's literally just you projecting.
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>>579623206
It’s literally what they gave us you fucking retard. Stop excusing shit characterizations because you’re a retarded neanderthal who still thinks “Sonic’s shitty friends” was ever a real thing
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>>579622049
So you need spines to be able to spindash? No one else besides Sonic can be fast? The fuck kinda logic is that?
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I want to spank Maria.
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>>579623731
>what kind of logic is that?
Actual logic? That's literally the basis for why Sonic is a fast hedgehog to begin with, stupid.
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>>579624184
>namecalling
We accept your surrender.
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Good morning /sthg/
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>>579623465
Tails' Lawyer? More like Fails at BEING a Lawyer.
>Sonic’s shitty friends” was ever a real thing
I literlly said it was a thing, how am I the retard, retard?
Go back to law school.
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>>579624314
You need to be at least 20 to post here.
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I worry about Amy. She's going to get her eye poked out :(
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>>579622774
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I want to spank Maria.
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>>579624578
You know what I meant fucktard. “Real” as in a valid criticism that you’re defending the existence of for no reason other than you hate the characters, seemingly Tails in particular. I also have no clue what this lawyer shit you keep mentioning means
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>>579624908
>>579605325
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>>579624184
Ah yes the logic that allows a hedgehog to be blue and super fast and charge up his spinning ball action, but NOT a fox or echidna, nooooooo sir that’s simply impossible!

It’s cartoon logic, you can’t call it okay in some places but impossible in others. You’re just showing your bias against the side cast
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>>579624314
You struck a nerve.
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>>579625125
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cnc to counter whatever's going on with the gold digger bat
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>>579625889
Begging for DP where the balls touch
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>>579626418
cnc
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>>579626498
THEY'RE AIR SHOES
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>>579624314
>"Why are people MEAN TO ME when I'M AN ASSHOLE?!"
Fuckin' shortbus-sped crying crocodile tears doesn't get that civility is a two-way street.
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>>579626729
Blowing hot air will melt the arena's ice
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>>579626729
THEN STOP ICE SKATING WITH THEM FAGGOT
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>>579624184
Sonic series doesn't run on actual logic, if it did Sonic wouldn't be even fast because real hedgehogs aren't fast
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>>579570938
I love Ian
but I don't love crying lesbians
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>>579570938
>According to [Yet Another Westoid Who Can't Shut The Fuck Up And Gets Off At Being "The Source" Of Information],
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>>579625016
>you just hate Tails!!!
Get new material
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>>579625301
>Ah yes the logic that allows a hedgehog to be blue and
Shut the fuck up dude. Its called suspension of disbelief. There is still logic to it based on the terms of the fiction.

The reason Sonic is hedgehog and has spines is because they wanted an explanation for hoe he damages enemies while spinning.

Him going fast is supposed to be a particular trait of his, not somrthing every fucking scrimblo can just do for no reason
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>>579627057
>replying twice
By this logic you shouldn't be complaining about Tails because "there is no logic".
There is logic. Logic=/=appeal to realism.
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>>579622049
Tails is not a real fox and Knuckles is not a real echidna. There is no point in limiting a fictional series about super powered animals to real world logic
While Tails rolling and spinning is for gameplay reasons, Tails also looks up to Sonic and wanting to be more like him so it makes sense that Tails would learn to use some of Sonic's moves to keep up with him
Knuckles being fast is also for gameplay reasons, Sonic himself also being strong. Both Sonic and Knuckles are fast and strong but one is way stronger while the other is way faster. Doesn't mean that Knuckles has to be slow especially when he's not a heavyweight character like Big and Omega
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It is, frankly, offensive that Omega is not allowed to spindash.
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>>579610056
Let's hope Amy won't be a girlboss in Movie 4 because that would kill the movies
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<3<3<3
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>>579629118
Omega isn't even playable in most games to even have a established moveset, it's just Heroes and 06
I do wish Sega would utilize Omega more, he does often get excluded from the main cast meanwhile you have useless cast filler like Cream and the Chaotix show up
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>>579622165
Nothing ever happens in IDW. It's just Steven Universe with a Sonic aesthetic. It poisoned the franchise. Don't let the good art trick you into thinking it has substance
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>>579628158
No need for new material when the current is perfectly true and valid
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>>579629118
Sonic Dash is really funny about this because everyone who can't spindash gets a silly tumble.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7CdZA76Cwo
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>>579626369
>DP where the balls touch

Mhhmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhfrrf cm kut fsxczffgvbbnjnjjjjjjjuuyujj
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https://x.com/zebra_lasso/status/2094751565353722009
https://x.com/zebra_lasso/status/2095097576425144612
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Tails is the best!
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>>579630091
Then let's make things happen you don't have to suffer from your self inflicted narcissistic mentality cause you're my friend

And friend don't let each other hate idw *sings a song about idw*
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Will Nine ever reappear?
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>>579629993
Lookin' chic!
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>>579628345
>”only Sonic can be fast and do da cool stuff!!!!”
Not beating the “Sonic’s shitty friends” retarded boomer allegations
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Tails being fast is a defined trait of his
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>>579631078
Anon, no need to jump into the conversation if you're just going to flail your arms around and say retarded shit.
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Tails being fast is a defined trait of his
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>>579630454
Tangle is a cancerous parasite of a character. She's Ian's attempt to replace Amy
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>>579631264
>>579631321
Oh nooooo my bot got exposed!

Actually my 4chan post just glitched when I first posted
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/sthg/ fuse with me!
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>>579631624
I already "fused" with your mom.
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>>579631264
>>579631321
>>579631495
Lmao screenshotting this dumbfuck tailspedo
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>>579631624
Ok..
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>>579631305
I am the anon you replied to retard, and don’t act like your retarded insecure ramblings are above anyone else to call out for rightfully being retarded, either
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>>579630827
The only people who are narcissistic are the IDW staff who insert their alphabet donut steel OCs into the comics because they want to feel important and want to be praised by the alphabet zoomers who are into IDW
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>>579631816
Ok have fun with your photo of... Nothing at all
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>>579631926
I dunno, projecting like that sounds like narcissism to me...
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>>579631975
Quit avatarfagging, pedo
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>>579631758
I am my mom that makes us independent together
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>>579630853
I hope so.
Do you suppose he stayed behind in the Grim or did he go back to New Yolk with everyone?
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Cutie....
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Love this little fucker
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>>579632161
Steven universe didn't play around with those songs
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>>579632378
I don't know, but I hope he's doing ok

>>579632408
Who doesn't?
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>>579631834
That's funny because I'm not the anon you were having a conversation with. I just saw you being retarded.
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>>579632378
as far as i can remember, the grim had nothing to it. he planned to make food with the prisms. without that, he probably starved to death if he stayed.
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>>579632608
So you literally did what you accused me of? You’re retarded bro
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I love him!
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>>579630853
>>579632378
Sadly he won't because of two reasons:
>Watsonian or in-universe
The entire timeline got erased at the end, nothing involving Nine never happened, he never existed
>Doylist or out-of-universe
Nine was created exclusively for Netflix show that was a spinoff side series and Sega has traditionally ignored the existence of old side media.
He might make a cameo in spin-off racing game to fill a roster but nothing more.
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>>579632810
Same!
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/sthg/ I'm glad we would never go through something like this
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I wish 4chan had more edgelords. But the sharty is genuinely evil. I want something with jagged edges that looks goth.
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>>579632779
No, I called you out for taking a generic, factual statement about Sonic's speed being one of his inherent characteristics and turning it into a dumbass opinion about only Sonic getting to be cool and fast and that's why all of his friends suck. Just don't say stupid shit next time.
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>>579628774
Limits are the basis of telling a story and creating rules and standards around which fiction operates stupid.
It doesn't matter if they are "real Foxes" or "real echidnas". That's arbitrary. The fact is Tails doesn't have spines. The reason Sonic is able to bust bots is because of his spines. The reason he rolls is because he is a hedgehog.
Tails rolls because hr is mimicking Sonic because he is a fanboy. But he doesn't have spines.

The entire premise of Sonic's gameplay is built around his specific character.

This is different than most other action platformer characters whose abilities are more generic. Mario Jumps. Anyone can jump. Anyone can bonk a goomba. Mario is just really good at these things.

Ratchet uses guns. Anyone can use guns. Ratchet is just good at it.

Etc etc.

Not everyone has superspeed not everyone is a hedgehog.
Things like running and rolling through slopes and loops makes sense specifically because Sonic is doing it.

This has always been a weakness of the series.

This isn't me saying no one should be playable. This is me pointing out simple facts.
The integrity of the fiction is harmed by other playable characters.
There is so much shit in this series where we have to go "that's for gameplay reasons" in ways that make you have thing think on like 4 different layers.
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>>579633027
>Implying any of the anons would get a gf in the first place
>Implying anons have even 3d face to face friends
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>>579633027
Yeah this looks like slop

>>579632940
Unfortunate

>>579632983
<3
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>>579632014
I'm not projecting. It's the alphabet zoomers that are into IDW who do that. They self-insert as the characters and then say "he/she would agree with my political views and would hate you"
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>>579632940
>The entire timeline got erased at the end, nothing involving Nine never happened, he never existed
I like to think the other universes just got cut off, but might still be accessible via prism shenanigans. Not that it matters, because
>Sega has traditionally ignored the existence of old side media.
yeah. Sega really doesn't give a shit about anything unless it hits a certain popularity threshold, and I don't think Prime hit that.
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>>579633073
I can't help but adore you
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>>579630186
Its telling you never denied the shitty sibling accusations
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>>579633327
That's completely fine by me. What I think is cool is completely internal, and mostly like games from the 2000s, skateboarding, and nu metal. If people see me differently, unless it touches a very specific mental identity tripwire, I won't care.
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>>579633103
>Sonic's speed being one of his inherent characteristics
Actually read the original post fucknigga. It said speed is something PARTICULAR to Sonic, acting like no one else can be fast when being fast IS a main trait of many other characters. It reeks of jealous insecurity, like “how DARE people like ANY other character besides MY FAVORITE MASCOT, they must all be stripped of their cool traits because ONLY SONIC CAN BE COOL”.
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>>579633027
>I was hoping if we hooked up you'd move on i didn't mean to hurt you


Don't you ever let someone play with you like this sthg I'm so serious
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>>579633073
Does it count as being an edgelord if I like black and red Sage better than blue and white Sage?
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^-^
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>>579633585
No, but it means you have good taste in aesthetics
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>>579633417
Because it was always retarded made-up cope that wasn’t worth addressing. I’m literally an eldest sibling, you just think you’re smarter than you are trying to psychoanalyze everyone here and fit them into your preconceived incorrect boxes
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>>579633480
Literally no one said this. Being fast isn't even a straight of most characters. It's a concession made for the sake of gameplay.

Its not a basic thing everyone can just do just because.
>It reeks of jealous insecurity,
0 seldom awareness.
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fluffy tails (not that tails)
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>>579633773
>Because it was always retarded made-up cope that wasn’t worth addressing
Sure thing, Tailscel. That's why youre trying to address it now.
>I’m literally an eldest sibling,
When did i say anything about being older or younger?
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>>579633520
This i may not be the toughest dude bro or whatever but a guy who can't see that someone like his best friend or brother, father is out to ruin them is crazy

Sonic good name was smeared by that he would never do something like that
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>>579633027
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>>579633221
Okay, projecting narcissistic creep...
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>>579634020
I’m addressing it now because you won’t drop it because you’re fucking retarded and need everything explained to you like you’re 5 years old. No, you do not need to be a “shitty sibling” to like Tails or any other characters, this is purely nonsensical cope you invented in your tiny mind because it can’t fathom people not self-inserting as Sonic like you do
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>>579634023
>>579634197
>Sonic good name was smeared by that he would never do something like that

Correct Sonic wouldn't do a friend especially Tails like that that's something Espio would do
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Just got my wisdom teeth out. Post Shadow for me while I’m bedridden sthg.
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>>579633520
>>579633027
>>579634197
>>579634023
>>579634453
Tailspedo, Tails was in the wrong ultimately, because he didn't fall in love with Fiona, but a robot copy of it, and Fiona never ever reciprocated with him ever, down to actually talking it face to face finally with.

It's literally Tails' fault.
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my poor chameleon boy catching strays out of nowhere
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>>579622049
>The average player that hates Heroes hates it because they just try to play as Speed formation as much as possible and complain whenever the game punishes them for it.
I hate Heroes because it's a bad game with bad writing and bad level design and NONE of the formations are fun to play.
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>>579634504
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>>579633027
Right because /sthg/ would never apologize for being baselessly mean to Tails
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Archie looks worse and worse
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If you seek amy
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>>579634383
>I’m addressing it now because you won’t drop it because you’re fucking retarded and need everything explained to you like you’re 5 years old
>namecalling
Thanks for your concession
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archie sonic would grope rouge on a crowded train, then try to play it off like a sudden jostle threw him into her
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>>579634752
>>579634838
>>579634940
uh oh melty incoming?
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>>579634838
Yeah? What if I seek Amy?
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>>579634526
There's no way youre blaming Tails for this. The problem isn't whether Tails was "wrong" on some macro level. Its about Sonic's actions and motive being heinous.

>>579634559
This
>>579634383
Whatever Tailscell
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>>579634197
Oh yes he would! he went out there to "play the bad guy" and end Merlina's world
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>>579634589
All wrong.
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>he actually has eyeshadows
Lmao, canon sissy
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>>579634737
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SA2 Shadow, 06 Shadow and Archie Shadow are the best versions of him.
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Rough&Tumble definitely share
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>>579635204
Sorry that your childhood game is shit. Not really sorry, though.
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>>579635203
Not what happened.
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>>579635063
>The problem isn't whether Tails was "wrong" on some macro level.
That is the problem though. Tails never matured himself out of it when he should have. That's life, you should respect others' boundaries.

>Its about Sonic's actions and motive being heinous.
What "heinous motives"? Sonic never did anything about Tails like actually cucking him out, because Fiona quite literally, again, told him on face she doesn't want him. It's not one's fault when the other just can't move on.

Maybe some empathy, sure, but ultimately, again, Tails' fault, not Sonic's.
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>>579634383
>this is purely nonsensical cope you invented in your tiny mind because it can’t fathom people not self-inserting as Sonic like you do
I'm a Knucklesfag.
I think everything you said is wrong and reeks if self-insert projection and entitlement.
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>>579635036
Patty cake
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>>579635278
That's a long tongue
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>>579635220
All according to plain
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>>579634838
Britney Spears is so based
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>>579634912
>”you lose because you called me a mean name!!”
Anon I only said you acted 5 not that you actually were 5, but ig I need to make that change now
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>>579634752
... if you are a self-inserting insecure pedophilic manchild that thinks a literal kid can do no wrong and should outdo Sonic in every department. :(
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>>579635480
Yaaaaay!
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>>579635713
Jewel get up
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>>579635446
>That is the problem though
No it isn't. Its just your deflection.
This is like when Tailscel gets indignant about LostWorld's writing saying "Tails was just standing up for himself".

Sonic is being a shit friend here. A person who is your friend doesn't do that and Sonic himself wouldn't. Its just done for melodrama.

>Sonic never did anything about Tails like actually cucking him out, because Fiona quite literally, again, told him on face she doesn't want him. It's not one's fault when the other just can't move on.

Sonic literally did because he only did it to hurt Tails for his own good, stupid.

What part of this do you not get? Fiona liking him or not DOESNT EVEN MATTER. Sonic literally did it because he thought it was for his own good. He thought dating a bitch he knows Tails has feelings for, even if unrequited, was a good thing, nay, the best thing for Tails.

Only a narcisist thinks this.
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>>579634526
>>579635063
This is like arguing over something that happened in a fan fiction story by the way, the writing for archie had the same quality as one anyway.
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>>579635789
Not the person you were talking to
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>>579635259
06 Shadow had the most personality
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>>579635921
>something that happened in a fan fiction story by the way, the writing for archie had the same quality as one anyway.
... just like Shadow game, 06, SA2 etc!

That's what makes them all kino btw.
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>>579636096
certified cnc classic
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>>579636030
Then why reply to me??? Are you slow??
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Mimic gives off the kind of vibe of dating someone you clearly like idk why lol
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>>579635818
>hes a le hebbinn kidd!!1!
Leave
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>>579635476
Then you’re just a retard, simple. Are YOU a shitty sibling?
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>>579636208
He died a pussy ass bitch
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>>579636191
Because you yoused mean names instead of making an argument.
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>>579635902
I was gonna counterargue but I hesitate because you are talking like Sparky with grotesque leddit spacing, so please reword it into a sane manner, especially when we both agree anyway Tailscel(s) are the worst so I'm with you actually.
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>>579636406
Actually, no. He killed himself to try to take Whisper down.
That's, ironically, not a pussy death, he died bravely.
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Tailshaters are retarded
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>>579636354
No clue what that even means, but you do this every so often with the same images over and over to make sure everyone knows its you and its clearly a cry for attention.
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>>579636443
You ignored the argument and focused on the one meanie word like a child would. Stop talking to me
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>>579636561
Then stop melting and spamming you pedophile.
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Alright, wish me luck.
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>>579636406
How Whisper looked finishing that ghoul off for good
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>>579636447
>you are talking like Sparky
Stop it
>>579636447
>we both agree anyway Tailscel(s) are the worst so I'm with you actually.
Agreed.
That doesn't excuse Archienic here. He literally did it just hurt Tails for his supposed own good. That's his motivation. It doesn't matter if Fiona liked him back or not. Sonic did it with the intention of breaking his heart "for his own good".
Its retarded and done for mellow drama.
The story wants conflict so its willing to make the characters do flagrantly retarded shit they wouldnt do in order to generate it.
Its fanfic writing.
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The wheel has spoken.
Alright, time to get Maria spanked.
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>>579637024
Spankfag...
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>>579636904
*Silver and Tangle victory screeching*
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>>579569957
This isn't a Sonic fan...
>how can you tell?
He actually played video games.
>Ohohohoho hahahahaha hehehehehe
https://www.deviantart.com/sonicprimearena/art/Pit-of-Pestilence-Runescape-Sonic-the-Hedgehog-1351924497
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>>579636587
I’ve only posted one image this whole argument. You are confused and don’t know what you’re talking about
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>>579637074
No, it's not even rigged. Shame, I was ready to go through Sonic Origins with Tails. Or even Knuckles.
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>>579636904
Inkling and Octolings would think Mimic is cool af let's be honest especially pic related
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SEA people have no sense of humour.
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Barry!
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>>579637674
This is how I treat my AI and it's happy about it. :)
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>>579637612
>what a distasteful outfit oh ho ho ho ho mechanic sick em

They would kill him in the spot for dressing so un /fa/ and not appearing you know in a socially acceptable way
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>>579635220


Sonic also does though, idk y sissyposters pretend sonic or shadow don't have feminine stuff about them.
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>>579635902
Tails was standing up for himself in Lost World. He knew he could shut down Eggman’s machine without Eggman’s help but Sonic didn’t trust him enough to do it, on top of not realizing he should never trust Eggman
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>>579638115
The need to look/fa/ at all times is literally like a mental issue with those fuckers right?
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>>579638801
Yes you literally need to reach higher level of clout for some npc to even put up with you

Shiver&Frye are some of the few outlier sorta they're the effortlessly cool types they only care about banditing and money
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>Sonic Lost World is one of the rare times Modern Tails showed some back bone and autonomy
We're in the trenches...
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>>579638135
I'm a retired bimbo slut
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Life is like a dick. Sometimes up, sometimes down. But never hard forever, and it's short.
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>>579639365
We really just need to scrap the meta era characterizations completely. But fuckass Ian just HAD to use it as the basis for his (re)development. Granted, still better than doing nothing like the Japanese did I guess
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>>579639772
And it never goes in the right hole.
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>>579639473
>retired
How old are you?

>>579639365
Ahem, Sonic Prime, anyone?
This is why you partake in fancontent like Tails Zone Cops or dare I say this one:
https://www.deviantart.com/sonicprimearena/art/Sonic-Baby-Tails-offends-religious-superstitious-1370924375
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>>579639772
Typical asian redneck woman joke with dick complexes. She can't even do her own female genitals jokes correctly so she has to borrow from the male genitalia.
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>>579638135
sonic team are cowards
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>>579639956
Sorry I only said that cause I knew my Zeti master would pound that lie out of me


There's no rest for trash like me
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>>579639790
I enjoyed Pontaff Tails (at least for the one game) more than Ian Tails
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>>579639365
Lost World was OOC for everyone.
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>>579640203
Nah slightly feminine but cool guys>troon/genderbent.
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>>579640291
Why are you pretending to be me
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>>579639956
>Prime Nine
Okay…
>AI slop depicting Tails as a girl
And you lost me. I was going to ask what Tails Zone Cops was but now I don’t think I want to know
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>>579640291
>kneeling to the ai slop tailsfag, even when falseflagging
a new low
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Looks like someone can't stand dick jokes. Maybe they are a bit too hard for him to swallow.
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>>579640475
>>579640629
Lmao ok ok I'm kidding 8 just saying shit
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>>579637376
Spank the Monkey...
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>>579640850
It's not nice to call Maria a monkey.
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>>579637367
>I’ve only posted one
The same one everytime unprompted to make sure everyone knows its you.
Stop attentionwhoring.
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>>579640761
>>579640791
Kek stop teasing sthg like that
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>>579638532
Tailscel....



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