>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=67625562344521860>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>579503560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPZ_iK3pjwwMy new personality just dropped
it's septemberwhere patch?
>>579591991Late September, code for October 8th end of the beta ranked season. Lol! Then the next major update won't be until the new year because in November Valve devs will be playing GTA 6.
>>579592289
damn all bebop has is hit hook. what a boring stinky character to play as. all the other hook characters are more fun
>>579587318as a new player i don't think i'd worry about anything other than playing the guy that looks most appealing to you. if that's venator, play venatorthat's pretty much true of any game with heroes or fighters or whatever, pick the guy you want to play, because that's the guy who will get you to playbesides that, in my experience venator feels good and strong. he's always been low WR on public WR trackers but as far as i'm concerned that's a spook
>>579591968Wow this build sure does take 30k souls to come online, is difficult to make work and even when it does it relies on the enemy team being completely retarded. I can't wait to get a bunch of retards using it in my team in the upcoming week!!!
>>579591968this is unironically what makes deadlock kino
>>579593317this. I'm tired of 90% of deadlock's content creators being fluoride-stare zoomers that make builds that barely work even if you're smurfing or joecuck copycats
>>579593703where do i find a duo who looks like this
>>579593703settle down unc
holliday has got to be the most downplayed hero of all time this bitch is STRONG
>>579593703i mean content creators by nature are already retardedmix in some confirmation bias and positive feedback loop from the developers feeding their retardation by catering with patch buffs/nerfs
>>579591912what's wrong with her nose, too much oathkeeper infused cocaine?
Every time a Bebop playstyle becomes fun people want it nerfed into unusability. Now it's shadow Bebop.
Whats the most chinese build?
>>579595167it truly is a mystery why no one wants the janky pull you from 9000/m away through a wall and auto aim sticky bomb on you character to be good
>>579595815spirit venator
>>579595167because hes the most honest hero who requires the highest amount of skill to work, ''people'' HATE that
Installing lewd mods in 3... 2... 1...
>>579596509I have the naked graves mod but I wish she wasn't wearing socks and shoes and cum on her
my take?Ecelebs do more damage to this game than literally any other on the marketYou have retards mimicking joechuck being useless on doormanfucking RETARDS trying to force SPIRIT VENATOR and being fucking useless because their eceleb does itand then characters like Silver get nerfed because eceleb whiningthis game is THE most eceleb whipped on the marketYes, even more than fucking DBD
>Win >Feel nothing>Lose >Feel like awful shitIs this a sign that I should be taking a break
>>579597310What's wrong with trying fun builds in an pre-alpha playtest?
Spirit venator is good thoughbeit
>>579597381that's not a sign of getting bored with the game, that's a call to action for you to seek professional therapy for your serious ego problem.
>>579597382nothing, but when you're doing that in the ranked environment where everyone should be trying to win.it's a problem.nobody wants gun mo in their ranked matches.
Ecelebs got their sights on Warden and Mercurial Magnum, expect nerfs this week or the next.
>killing any shrine rapes the amount of souls they get farming off of minionsno wonder comebacks are impossible outside of pooplow.
i like spellslingerwho should i play
>>579597939hagtitschinese build shiv
oh yeah, and it's TWO lanes (mid after first shrine) that get their soul econ raped if one shrine is killed.yoshit is finished.
The “update” is going to be pretty much strictly voice lines. Sorry, that’s why it took so long. Voice Actor schedules are hard to work with.
DoTs might as well not exist in the dispel slop meta
>put tombstone in the side stairs to midboss>ghouls walk aboveground to push wave, rather than attack the six enemies punching the rejuvesWhy, Yoshi? Why can't I have the most basic of micro for my summons when playing a summon character?
borgor
we used to get massive updates every WEEK to two weeks btw I remember thinking "they fucking update this game too much man" whenever i saw a 500mb/1gb update a day after the last one
Deadlock shouldn't have been a shooter game.
>>579598568They are just balance updates for the most part though. And honestly it was too much, we were getting major character rebalance patches every damn week to the point where the meta couldn't really develop
I'm straighter than a wiener, but I still want to feel Celeste's horse gock throbbing in my hand.
>>579598782nope we got new items and portraits sometimes too and map changes just in a random week patch
>>579598508You have to place it in the veil rooms with the poles that connect to the surface. If you place it there they'll path into the midboss pit
>>579598863Watch Yoshi patch in the ability for gouls to climb poles so they go straight to the blue lane surface.
>>579598843Those are all things that get updated less the more they're updated though. It made sense for us to get new items, portraits and map changes back in 2024 when the game was a lot more unfinished. As they start finalizing the ideas for what they want the map to be, they update the map less. As they add more items and the item shop gets more complete, they add less items. As the portraits get finalized they don't add more portraits. There's no point to making changes to the map or adding more items just for the sake of doing it, those are things you change or add in order to make the game better in one way or another.
Rate my ranked roster
>>579599103>more than 3 characters selected>more than one character on top prionever going to make it
>>579599103>no wraith bannedsuckies
>3000 games>Only 2 (TWO) Games with Silver in ranked>Two fucking games in the whole worldPROS and Streamers will look at you with their poker onions face and say this is normal
>>579599189Make what? I'm having fun. I often switch to Sinclair when enemies have game changing ults btw
>>579599293>prossilver is op she's broken she should be nerfed into the ground!>after being nerfed every single patchuh guys why does no one play silver? the problem with silver how silver's career ENDED the FAILURE of Silver the DOWNFALL of SILVER
Current Mo players are going to be the MMR landmines of the next patch.
>>579599293Erm Hoot can win on her though, who cares if 99.99% of the playerbase finds her unplayable? A single guy can make her work so she's clearly S+++ tierYou're just too low elo. Try being on nightshift shitter.
If the patch doesn't rework melee-Rework/Nerf movement to the ground-Add massive # of items (hopefully many melee)-Jungle overhaul to make people not waste 30% of gametime hitting neutrals for 5% bonus soulsI will consider it a failure because no heroes without a huge change is pathetic.
>>579599293i'm getting multiple pages when searching for ranked silver games thougheverbeit
>>579599470>multiple pagesLike two?Now compare with Warden
THIS. GAME. IS. UNPLAYABLE. FIX. THE. UPSKIRTS.
I just had the most bonkers game>abrams already on 13 deaths 16 minutes>no one's said anything about it>despite that Abrams is sweating in chat bossing people around and calling for pushes>we're pretty much 10k down the whole time>he still barrels down green into walker and dies>simply say we shouldn't go so deep this far behind>"drifter did you really just say that bro" and that he's gonna start inting because of my comment>obviously joke "13 deaths abrams: 'NOW i'm gonna int'">sets him off even more>he just starts inting off respawn>both team's are disgusted and we are kind of giving up, we're like 20k down>everyone's just flaming him, Abrams calls me racist for some reason (pretty much just spends the game typing and dying)>at some point we just start winning fights >we get rejuv>abrams is still inting hoping we lose (at 25 deaths)>we WIN the fucking game It's like we had a player SO bad that just being permanently dead improved our teamwork, that or the int-er made the enemy too confident. Very chatty lobby for a 6am game. Crazy stuffhttps://litter.catbox.moe/rygu7ro25g0eal5x.mp4>https://litter.catbox.moe/rygu7ro25g0eal5x.mp4
>>579599443Meleeschizo you're one of my favorite posters in this thread. I find it really funny imagining you play, constantly getting parried or just missing your punches because someone air dashes away from you, as you imagine a game where opponents just stand there motionless and get punched to death without resisting. God bless your soul
>get my main out of low prio just to play some ranked again>get low prio hero 3/4 gameswhat a waste of my timehonestly this whole matchmaking patch is a dud. standard is god awful now, ranked is meaningless how does yoshi keep getting away with this
why can't valve aka sweet baby inc design characters that actually look good
>>579599665imagine his posts in billy's voice
>>579597692>Mercurial Magnum nerfsActive ReloadGAWDS, is our time coming?
>>579599391Its actually disgusting how braindead the hero is since he is functionally immortal in lane. You can't die on Mo so you won't feed, meaning you are more carryable.
>>579599734>pedo gacha fango back
>>579599558I agree. The black voids look really bad.If they weren't willing to commit then they should have never made those designs in the first place.
>>579599779>election touristgo back
>>579599779Paige wouldn't look out of place in a gacha with a modernish setting.
>>579599665I have no problem with parry. I have a problem with heroes like drifter/yamato/apollo not being melee heroes in the sense they have retarded ranged weapons for no reason. If they nerf movement they can add actually interesting hero designs instead of this trash
>>579599734Not everyone is a porn addicted tranny like you. Some people have taste
>>579599648haze would say this
>>579599887drifter has a variety of builds thanks to his claw gun doe
>>579599891Why are you on 4chan?
>make Drifter be like Silver ult but only the bad partsinteresting brick ideas
>>579600075Why should I leave? Because migrants and tourists like you flood the place? Suck it.
>>579600294YOU are the tourist.
>>579599648>losing because teammate is pretty much inting>starts genuinely inting>start winningLol
>>579599984Drifter is like the one character that benefits from the item system wholistically. I will admit he is pretty good about it. The rest it feels like shit on. Calico, apollo, and others feel like retarded gimmicks tacked on
>>579599734An actually appealing designbwould cause every single valvedrone to have a heart attack.
Reminder
>>579599734>>579600449guh
>>579599734ZZZ has horrible overdesigned characters, you only like them because of tits
>>579599918but would yamato say that?
give silver hunter's pounce from L4D2 that builds up her BL meter and when in wolf form it slowly kills you and heals her kinda like Mo Combo to balance it make it parryable
>>579601105hmmmmm nounless you want to lose bola maybe
>>579599734>>579600449>actually good and appealing designpic unrelated I guess?
aimslop ruined deadlock
aimgem saved deadlock
aim? I don't believe in that. I just hit melee over and over
>>579601380ye fuck bola its janky and shit and is the reason why she keeps getting nerfed because of muh movement
Parrying feels awesome But denying should have a stronger soundGetting denied feels like cbt
>>579601858if you can't land a skillshot on a basic ability, why are you asking for a l4d hunter pounce? you actually had to be really good at hunter pounces in l4d competitive
why is ranked matchmaking so bad? every other game my team is 32 kills theirs is 7 and its settled by the 20 minute mark (yet drags on another 10-15min)
>>579557673Looks somewhat usual for this type of game no? They probably underestimated how long it's taking to settle but by the end of the month it should be better.Keep in mind the next season can only be better since I assume people who rank Asc/Eternus this one will be placed at the same rank, maybe max Asc 6 for Eternus players.
>>579557673it takes 9 eons just to rank up once
What if heroes were locked to play only for 1 patron?Like you could never see Wraith and Abrams on the same side? Or Lash and Bebop?
>>579602248Its not that you can't land its just that on the heroes its most effective on (Lash, Celeste) are impossible to hit.Sorry guess I should have aim perfect accuracy against niggers in the skybox my fault.
>>579602340phantom strike then bola them
>>579602375not in l->r
>>579602375Silver can't farm well so its hard to justify those hard hitting 6.4k items
>>579602596in pub games you can definitely farm up a t4 by 20-25 mins
>>579602331sounds like the kind of system a concordlike would have
>>579600537>silver is good when she's <45% wr <5% pr even in top ranks... so when is she BAD?
They need I played Dark Seer in doto and Leona in LOL, who should I play in Deadlock?
>>579603595When she is deleted from the game (later this September)
I can't aim, that's why I play Ivy
>>579602331it used to be a mode in warcraft 3 dota where good heroes were locked into sentinel and evil ones into scourge and it wasn't as fun
>made half of holliday's barrel damage dispellable for no reasonvery cute yoshi
>>579601629went back to the replay and saw this LOLpeople really seethe this much over standardsome shitter who can't parry anything goes "ermm my tracker here says you're smurfing... what's the deal with that?"I only have 28 wins on billy btw
>>579602282>Looks somewhat usual for this type of game no?one is a curve one is a slope, do I have to draw it for you?
>>579604219wtf my easy lane character now has a little counterplay in mid/late game?!
>>579604967>my character is countered by the item that literally everybody is going to buy every single gamecool
>>579604219honestly if someone dispels barrel damage before i pop the slowing hex that's fine by me
>>579605034this goes against so many characters you retarded holliday abusing pedophile freakInfernusHazeSevenApollo relying on 2 healingEE for literally everyone (especially Seven)MirageShivetc etc
>>579605586>sure your character sucks now, but so do a few others!okay retard
>>579605627dilate, fotm abusing tranny.your character is slightly more fair now instead of being objectively better mnk
>>579605683>being objectively better mnkDo noskilltards really?
I don't think it's sustainable game design for so much balance to hinge on the existence of Dispel Magic.
>>579606340Pitch you idea for another anti-debuff/anti-DoT item that isn't merely % debuff resist.
>>579606532I'm not a fucking developer. Figure it out yourself.
I think Shiv's ult needs to go back to point and click just so these retards would stop using it as an escape tool
>>579606592bro is NOT rotating the apple. bro does NOT have the creative spark. he ate breakfast this morning and any hypothetical is beyond any use for him.
>>579606668Fuck you, pay me. Devcattle is way too used to having free QA these days.
>>579606702>Devcattle is>isoh. that explains it.
>>579606657if you use shiv ult and it failed to execute someone, then it should execute shiv himself instead
>>579606849I accept your concessíon.
remove mokrill from game plsthx
>>579607868m1gger seethe lmao
>>579608009I'm not an M1 I play graves
>>579608220>I'm not an M1, I play an M1are all m1gger brains like this?
>>579608419m1 means I use my gun, right?I don't do that I use my number keys to summon things and then I run away
>>579608419Graves hasn't been an M1 in a while, sempai.
>>579608479strongest Graves' winrate contributor>>579608549Neither skulls nor zombies do anything actually, if you are not building m1 items on Graves you are trolling
>>579607868Just wait for the patch (in 1 month)
>>579608738>Neither skulls nor zombies do anything actually,Learn how to position and use your abilities better! echo shard grasping hands is the best way to build her.
>>579608798I sure hope so. Tired of this chunky retard flying in on magic carpet and doing 70% of my health with his ult
counterspell cooldown to 15 secondsmissing a counterspell now puts it on cooldown and increases the item cooldown by 5 seconds, up to 30 seconds maximumhitting a counterspell now decreases the cooldown by 1 if the cooldown is 15 seconds, and by 3 if the cooldown is 18 seconds or abovereduction by hitting a counterspell successfully at 15 seconds can decrease the cooldown down to 10 seconds at most
>>579609378autistic, as expected from a reddit frog poster.
>whole enemy team tries ganking me>pop unstoppable>burrow and use fleet foot>gotta go fastheh see you later bitch
Why is mokrill allowed to use sand blast while burrowed?
>>579603647Billy is the most similar.
>>579609829too underpowered they need it
>>579606657It is funny how the supposed nerf ended up turning it into a much better tool in the end>execute one person>get a free use to bail out on the situationHonestly a more interesting design though, but it does make his dash and the ult feel more samey
Why does mokrill have zero counterplay?
>>579609973Just stun him little bricklowYes he has the tankiest HP values in the game so wasting your stuns on him is retarded, so just let him stat check you to death while you try and fail to focus on his other team-mates.He's like C-tier at best. Totally not the best tank by a country mile
is lady geist cheat death refresher and transcendent cooldown optimal?
Why does mokrills burrow give him more resistances than billys ult?
> Currently imagining a fight between Habakirimon and Mega Lucario Z for fanfic purposes.> Realised that "Double Team" is just too freaking busted & could take out multiple mega level Digimon.How odd that non damaging move like Double Team seem so much broken than many Digimon attacks.
>>579610630because billy's ult is also a mass CC button that disables movement and pulls enemies toghetherburrow only has a small and slow knockup at the end
>>579610906sex with lucario in deadlock
I swear to fucking god your teammates never try to win, they only ever try to lose. I can't describe it in any other way. Every move they make is to lose or help the enemy team more and never your own team or themselves. When they're dying and you rescue beam them, what do they do? Rush back in right away and die. When they're being chased and could escape what do they do? Stay and die. The entire enemy team is getting midboss and the most obvious thing in the world is to not go in to "contest" (aka die instantly)? What do they do? Go in and die. Could they defend a lane? No they stand on sinners for quadruple the amount of time it would take them to kill the lane and let the walker eat damage (and get 1/3rd the amount of souls from the sinners than the minions). It is maddening. How the fuck are you supposed to win or do well when your teammates are just enemies themselves? No amount of good plays matter when they purposefully lose the game
>>579610956this is your moment to reflect that you should not be getting this upset over a video game.
>>579611352It aggravates me so much because when I play I don't purposefully try to lose. I might make mistakes, I'm not a perfect player and no one is and I don't expect them to be. But I don't purposefully feed, purposefully not defend a lane, purposefully not help teammates, purposefully let the enemy team take over the entire map, and so on.When I play, I try my best to win, to help my team. But I see my teammates do such insanely stupid shit that I can't help but wonder "how is it even possible"? It's why I say they purposefully try to lose, because their actions are so obtuse, so wrong, that I can't understand how they make the choice[s] in the first place. Why must I have my time wasted with these retards? Why even play the game when it isn't a fair match? It's not 6v6, it's 1v11
>>579611785So true! I found a solution to your problem: You should six-stack in standard mode instead of wasting your time in ranked.
>>579610906i know this game has more skills than aim but the least you can do is click on the right fucking tab
NERF PARRYING
>>579610353>no he's not overpowered you see, if your entire team focus-stuns him then he dieswhy do all downplayers sound like this
>>579612801seriously why are the active frames on it so goddamn long? it is not intuitive at all. why should players who see the parry and wait for it then light melee still be stunned?
>>579612801people say you should "never heavy melee" in high tier playif there's a mechanic you should literally NEVER FUCKING USE in high tier play then it needs to be BUFFED
>>579613327People say "never rawdog heavy melee against opponents who aren't bots", you can still heavy punch into stunned targets (abrams, apollo), or against people who parried nothing (in case they gambled and lost, or if you've successfully baited them to), or if you're immune and don't give a fuck (abrams, yamato, unstoppable).The only thing in need of buffs is your brain.
>>579599406Can he really though?
>>579613529>or against people who parried nothingthey just trade a heavy melee in that case lmao. whiffing parry should really lock you out of charging heavies or at least have some stamina penalty.
>open deadlock's reddit to see if there's any leaks since I don't use discord>flashbanged by faggotry/yuri spam>even memes/art has a "yuri corner"alright my bad I've learned my lesson
>>579612801unbind melee
>healing a whopping 16 hp per heavy melee as Abrams with his tier 2 3is this the most worthless tier 2 upgrade in the game16 fucking health for a heavy melee
>>579613862Yuri is alright as long as it's hot.
>>579614578Icefraud really really REALLY wants Abrahams to be the big dick melee guy but he doesn't want to make melee too strong either.It's quite tragic that Abrams now has a shit gun and a lackluster melee so you need to build tanky/spirit.
They should add at least four new melee items and also rework(nerf) parries
>>579614751all things are best enjoyed in moderation and those faggots are absolute servants of excess
>>579614578You heal off creeps too no? And its on every hit?
>>579614970literally a singular resto shot out heals that, bro.
>>579615063Resto shot has a cd lil bro
>>579614578yeah it's too low and presumably was made with a higher melee damage in mind despite it being fairly new
>>579615063>wtf my melee hit with 0 items 5 minutes into the game doesn't heal me to full? shit passive shit hero *swaps to wraith*
When are they adding Murky to Deadlock?
>>579610353>this is what downplayers actually believe
>>579615498On one hand I think that hiding an egg would be quite hard in a game as fast and with movement so available as deadlock (especially at high ranks)on the other hand ragebaiting and wasting 2-3 people's time while your team takes walker is something this playerbase could use
a foid in my team ended billy 5-15-6 and was like "tee hee why do you guys care so much about winning it's just a game"why do f*ids play this ranked if they don't care about winning? is it the furry porn?
I think I'm gonna start getting superior cooldown on Geist as 1 of my 2 purplesEven on gun Geist you use all her stuff off of cooldown. Also farm faster. Spam malice more etc
>>579616018>foidthrow a "shup up nigger"it's the greatest shitter filter
Made it to rat rank, I'm no longer a pigeon.
>>579616349ogey
>>579616349Rats are above pigeons? But pigeons can fly
>>579616409FINE.
>>579614949Wouldn't know I avoid reddit aside the news.
>>579616349It's so fuaking grindy, and noobs constantly report me for "smurfing" so I get the most lop sided retarded lobbies if I have too good a game.
>>579606532Rather than doing that we can just stop putting DoTs CC debuffs on literally everything so specific characters and items can fill roles and situations. Then nerf some of the movement especially unintended garbage like the macro sliding pro cheaters are using. If you remove most of that skill slop effects you can add new items to intentionally put 1 back on specific skills increasing build variety. If people move so fast we need an MMO dismount battle debuff AND tons of CC on everything we can just reduce the movement more and remove most of the inherent slop effects making the game more enjoyable while increasing the importance of learning good movement to begin with.
>>579617038>macro sliding pro cheaters are using.QRD?
viscous is allowed to fly across the map in under ten seconds because?
>>579617359umm it can hit allies too and get them killed or something
>ult on seven>enemy team runs away in fear>my team also runs away instead of pushing and confirminginitiate moment
>>579617359you dont understand if we fix slide storage the viscous players are going to be really annoying about it
>>579617359Because characters are allowed to use their skills for extra mobilityIvy can do it too (along with a teammate)So can HollidayHell, even Calico in cat form
>>579617583lmao I had something similar when I played Venator and my teammates were shooting for 5 good fucking seconds at my traps before going "oh wait"
>>579606532i did my bestExpunge, 6400. Item also has statsHolding the parry key will perform a ~1.2s channel (along with the standard parry effect), completing the channel will cleanse all non-ultimate/non-stun debuffs and apply a short range knockback to nearby enemy units. The range and strength of the knockback increase the lower your health is. If any 'strong debuffs' (aka Silence, Slowing Hex and other movement restricting skills like Bola, Disarming Hex, Decay, etc) are cleansed with this action, refill 2 stam and gain a diminishing speed boost. ~45s cooldown
I'll deal with the troopers
>>579617740>build ult seven>team runs away multiple times during ult instead of confirming prompting enemies to just focus and kill me>get base pushed with only 20k farm diff mid-to-end>ult once on base, still no one trying to push them>they drop the guardian and 2-4 shiv starts crying and calling me retarded and asking me where my ult iswhy are they like this? I honestly don't see the point in playing these matches, why isn't there a forefeit button yet
People talk about Drifter being OP but honestly he does not feel good to climb with. He only seems to do well in games you were already gonna win.
>>579618712This but every character.
>>579617583>>579617740>>579618665>play granpa talon>ult>enemy runs away>so does my teamI am convinced that 80% of humanity have a sub 80 IQ
>>579618585Haze is missing>>579618401I think this speaks to how busted dispel magic is that even though this proposal is pretty much just that but twice the cost and a self-stun to activate it, it would still be a great late game green.>>579618824On mic instruct your team to ping who they want to get the bird. This is helpful but has the added effect of encouraging them to laser focus on someone and run them down.
>>579603862>a modeyou mean THE main and default mode?that what all pick was, to let you pick from any side
>>579618947>even though the proposal is just dispel magicyeah but also ideally the stats/passive on the item would actually be interesting/useful and you also pay a premium for it not using up an active item slot.
>>579618947oh my friendI did just that"Ult coming on blue"but they ran because they thought the ult came from the enemies.which lead to my oscar winning line"you fucking faggots why are you running? WHY ARE YOU RUNNING?"
>>579619298don't blame them, the seven ult voice line probably suggested that they run and they listened.
speaking of GT>ult with GT>lash starts air dashing, grappling and dodging around>slowly erupt next to him when he's out of stamina>get hit with a "faggot" in all chat>same scenario but lash dodged>get a well played voiceline>get commendedfascinating behaviour
>>579619713Kayfabe>>579619298>Ult coming on blueThat's on you bro you didn't say "my bird"
>>579619713movementrannies are pathetic creatures
>>579619713>>same scenario but lash dodged>>get a well played voiceline>>get commendedhe owned you
>>579597793>>579598104Rape
>>579619972>playing lash and pressing 2 makes you a transsexualFascinating. Can you elaborate
>>579620980I wish he would have sent another "faggot" for consistancy
>>579621260Anyone that plays movement heroes is a tranny.
>"It looks like it's your first time playing, so we've highlighted some beginner friendly characters for you to try!">look at roster>no characters highlighted th-thanks...
>load in>see this>the comps are unbalanced>our drifter is now inting on purpose because the comps are unbalancedepic
>>579621489they should have a green thumbs upyou might need to actually try to queue up to see which are highlighted
>>579621627Spot the duo
>>579618712Duh, he is win more: the character, due to his 3Personally I avoid all win more items and hero’s, I gear for the 50:50 games because that’s where you can actually impact
>>579621682honestly the split on these statistics makes it so funny to look at
>>579621627faggots who immediatly throw the gauntlet because of ranks are the worst.I have a friend like that. He laserfocus on the ranks and when there's a diff he goes "gg go next" as if boosting is not a thing
>Want to play a standard game to warmup in the morning>9 minutes queue>Finally get into game>match cancelled due to 11/12 loading
>>579621846gah damn duo really is a crutch>>579621849just tell them ranks are fake and mention the 5 DERANK SHIELDS. it's all luck and numbers.
>>579606532Active item that takes all debuffs/buffs on you and gives it to the target
I made a mod that shows me winrates on each player in the lobby and I just swap into whichever lane has the 45% winrate shitters on the enemy team
>>579622053Wouldn't it make more sense to lane against the enemies with the highest winrate, that way you're crippling their best players asap with your superior lane micro skillz?
>>579622053assuming you think you're better than whatever rank you're in wouldn't you want your teammates in the easy lane and your superior self in the hard lane so the enemy bebop doesn't walk out of laning stage with a trillion bomb stacks and 15 kills
>>579622053You can further this as their is specifically lane winrates that can be derived as well as just checking the matchup stats so you don’t Abram’s into a vindicta like a dingus
>get put in the weak side sidelane in over 60% of my last 200 gamesthe eomm cant get more obvious than this
>>579622053>I made a cheat
>>579622571I swear it feels like someone the matchmaking puts (you) in charge of toddlers while the enemy is a full stack of pitbulls.I only have so many actives, Yoshi. I can't counterplay everyone
>>579622756Yes, now what are you going to do about it?Nothing other than seethe on 4chan like a cuck LMFAO
>>579622053larp
viscousniggers get the rope
>>579623119had a match yesterday where the enemy team had "Ashleyyy :3" and "femboy feet".Our team had Giganigga, The Rape-ptor and twitch.tv/TTD.
Is Vyper safehorny?
>>579623885she's horny but she's definetly not safe
>>579591115>half an arc of some random tranime is proof that egyptian assassin is a cliche????
>Vyper gets to be good m1>Wraith gets to be good m1>Warden gets to be good m1>Haze nerfed to oblivion because of initiates complaining about her and not buying metal skinI am so tired of these retarded devs listening to these glue eaters. I want to play my main and for her to not suck.
>>579624506I cannot Fathom it!
>>579624713He must be Slorking!
>>579624506wooww all I wanted to do was roam the map invisible and one-shot every siderlaner! what's the big problem? i'm just a little guy and it's my birthday!
>>579625273but its ok when bebop drifter calico and mokrill do it
>>579625713>bebopself expose
>>579611785Get it through your head already, these digitally simulated war games (like all competitive multiplayer games within this genre and others: LoL, Dota, OW, MR etc) are designed expressly with the intention of normalizing mediocrity through erratic character balancing, intentionally disjointed matchmaking algorithms and adding as many opportunities for negative-chaos to unravel any semblance of reliable consistency as a method of farming engagement from a playerbase in the same vein as a corporate news media complex, who work explicitly for the purpose of making life worse through gaslighting and cognitive dissonance campaigns at the behest Israeli (Kabbalistic) dark mystics to harvest negative energy for their blood magic (shown in Epstein Files and Deadlock takes place in Manhatten Underworld).If any of these "developers" wanted to truly address any of the long-standing issues that come with competitive matchmaking they'd objectively measure player ability in a way that's visible to all players through standardized mini-games that test essential skills (farming, rotations, movement tech) for consistently winning and that would then translate into a ranked license upon reaching the average skill level for each tier (as it pertains to those essential skills per hero). From a data analytics perspective this would then make it easy to differentiate between throwers, boosters and players of less skill which cannot be meaningfully discerned unless skill and knowledge integration are standardized.All that remains that is useful here in terms of a war game is withstanding despair (building mental resilience like it's a CIA interrogation simulator) as there is no merit in seeking victory arbitrarily (beyond the victory of personal growth) in the confines of distorted and unfixed game logic in a casual/"fun haver" player base of hedonistic reprobates.
>>579625930meds
>>579625930>performance mmrmidwit
What if they added a ninja hero that could wallrun.
Objectively correct post
>>579626280make it a tight bodysuit wearing whore with fat jiggling milk jugs and i'm in
>>579625713You didn't mention those crutch characters in your posts however! Feel free to nerf them>>579626280*clips through walls every 10 seconds*
why does the entire community just pretend like some heroes aren't strong at all when they are actually extremely strong or downright broken
>>579627197idk I just onetrick Silver because puffy fuzzy cookie
This is the kind of game they're making me play in standard to unlock new heroes. 60 minutes - this is only my second game with shiv and I have atleast 13 more games to go.For what ungodly reason does yoshi assume that you should play a hero for 15 hours to unlock them?
>>579627461Forgot pic
infernus needs some buffs asap afterburn does no damage and dash is shit right now useless hero
>>579627930When Napalm and Afterburn lose their aids debuffs then he can get something
>>579627416nggh... werewolf cookie
>>579626158Not performance MMR as it's currently applied that's junk data as that goes off of game outcomes which influences all relevant convergent metrics (fed allied Seven in one game suddenly one's farming/rotation "ability" supposedly skyrockets due to decreased pressure and contesting as enemy "players" are dead), no I am speaking about scenario training like in martial arts, hostage negotiation or card trials. Just like not being able to handle a scenario disqualifies a person from a belt or as a role as a hostage negotiator, arbitrarily obtaining the title of "Eternus" without objectively being in the apex cluster for each essential skill means they are disqualified from competing in that tier, and if they try to use a boosted account they'll be detected as a thrower/booster. For example farming efficiently without external pressure from an enemy hero.Performance MMR is too broad, and that's by design because there is an internal network of casual whales who want to ego for gamer cred (see Elon Musk in POE2) who don't want to be detected as frauds by a matchmaking system of total accountability and actively rely on boosters for any new competitive game.
>>579628028what aids debuffs? infernus literally does no damage it doesn't matter
>>579628456Try reading the abilities.
>apollo shows up>does 3k damage in a few seconds>12 minutes into the gameweak hero btw C tier
>>579628756Yoshi's favorite btwIt's his game, your main is just a background asset inside it
>>579628756Well good thing he becomes completely useless past 15 minutes, or if anyone decides to buy spirit res
>>579628940do you think anyone believes this outside of apollo downplayers
>>579628756bro?your slowing hex and cured relic?
>>579629078name literally one hero that curse doesn't counter I will wait
>>579628756>ITANI NO SA->buy counterspell>Mcgui put a wall>Kelvin ult>"LIFTING!"
>playing ghraves 8 minutes in or so>get a lucky parry against infernus and kill him>I have tombstone down and lvl 3 line at his tower as he zooms back>immediately flies down and kites zombies while shooting me>double jumps over 10 zombies while he ults>instantly dies mid air to zombie jihad aoe
kelvin keeps raping my teams in standard what do?
>11 minutes in queuemovesppeed warden killed the game
>>579629316>simply jump him with three people and use two ults on himthis is not how you downplay effectively
>>579628756The most annoying thing about Apollo is if you're laning against him you HAVE to be constantly above 500 hp and play extremely safe or he will hit you with his Crater sized ult and insta kill you
>literally my entire team running it down, grouping as 5 jumping people under walker, getting one kill before being raped by the responding team>our waves are completely fuckedam I supposed to try to fix waves and push or join my team in holding W and let the creeps take all our objectives and base
>>579629361Surprise zombie explosions are the best part of playing Graves>fleeing a fed Drifter while at low HP>enough ahead of him to duck behind a veil and drop max ult + line>Drifter face-checks the veil and gets insta-deleted by 5 zombie explosions at once
>>579629224wraithwardeninfernushazevypervenatormiragegay talonseven
>>579629713Just go full retard with them, fighting it only delays the inevitable Either way it'll end faster
>>57962746115 hours if you had a 100% win rate lol
>>579629560you cannot be this retardedit's a few way to counter Apollo, you don't need all of them to kill him. He's not that scary
>>579627674yeah standard is an absolute cesspool im just gonna play ranked with the heroes I already have
>apollo>celeste>wraithIt's almost as if characters that can deal top damage also having free get out of jail mobility is a huge balance mistake.
>>579630370c u r s e d r e l i cu rsedrelic
>>579630431>just buy a 6400 item if you are playing a subpar character while they can spend 6400 on anything they want!If your character has:Excellent full auto gunStunsChargeable nukesAttack damage steroidA teleportthen your maximum health should be capped at 50% of a normal characters, and heavy melees should have a chance to break legs, causing a slowing hex for a second or two
>>579630721skill issue then
>>579630757>skill issueyes, that's a skill balance issue. Not a user skill, but the skills being assigned to a character that are just 'league of legends' generic.
>>579630909retardthere are multiple items to counter multiple characterskill issue
>>579630980yes, that is true, but unrelated to the point at hand.
>>579631043why should certain characters have capped health when you can just buy counter items?the reason: skill issue
>>579630980>just buy an item that literally turns another character off, that's how you balance bullshit design!
>>579631115>characters I don't like should be nerfed to hell and unfun to playdude you're so right, you should be a devgame would flourish if you were on the team calling the shots
what's going to be the next "omg its super op nerf it now" character that people "discover" once their favorite content creator rubs 2 braincells together while looking at the item list?my vote is still on essence theft graves being a sleeper pick. top rank stats show gun damage as their highest stat and most people underestimate just how strong getting them ramping up quickly in a fight can be, especially with zombies aoe'ing for multiple stacking saps. People must forget it's multi-target drain.
>>579631224>bro just buy this 6400 item that turns off every character to counter the ones that are op>actually this is the perfect item to counter heroes that can teleport, stun, deal high damage, and scale with nukes all at once!
>>579631439I accept your concession
>>579631329One word: Echoshard, it's an item filled with possibilities and someone will discover some underrated combination with it.
>>579631329
magic carpet + stamina mastery is so fun
>>579631479then I guess pocket shouldn't have negative spirit resist base? after all, it's unfair. Let's add Kyle, the rapist king as a character since cursed relic counters him. He does everything bebop does, but has no range limit, and his hyper beam becomes his M1, and his hook is homing and global, his bombs also deal damage to the players credit score
>>579631684I accept your concession
>>579631558>reposting a r*ddit post that was already reposting a tw**t from some literal whoFuck a ban, this should get you shot
>>579631903i'm posting evidence of the exact occurrence in question, is this not reasonable?
>>579631558>this new build makes this hero BROKEN!!>the most standard warden build of all time
>>579631558>no surge on 2 Dropped. Looks like community still sucks at builds
>>579632085the only vaguely interesting thing is buying witchmail and transcendent cooldown praying that it resets your shield cd often now that people have realized that barrier spirit scaling is retarded>>579632357there is a subset of people who think boundless is better than buying surge of power
>>579631558yes that's what i was referring to and wondering what the next will be. 2 weeks ago it was celeste, now it's warden, etc.>>579631523not sure I'd go out of my way for it except against teamfight heavy comps, but it's a good choice on essence theft builds for the same reason. take one thing away from this: zombies give you MAX ESSENCE THEFT when they pop. drop a wall in a teamfight just to have a zombie spawn close to a few targets, do it again with echo, passive benefit if they walk into the wall, but main benefit of sapping a glass cannon's worth of damage from up to 4 targets. graves is best as a debuffer and people dont see it comin'.
weighted shots movespeed debuff should only be active while firing boolets
>>579632357boundless scales higher, veil walker fleetfoot and es are more than enough movement speed, not having to buy surge means getting overflow earlier which is a much stronger +fire rate item
>>579632620wish granted but weighted loses debuff resist.why are you crying over 0.5m speed penalty? it's literally nothing.
>my warden goes 1 12 4 in comphow does that even happen dude
>>579632786>buying this 6k instead of this 3k means you get overflow fasterOk
>>579633140Every meta chaser is the most handless fucker imagineable who makes Victor players look like faker reincarnated by virtue of being so bad.
>>579633140monkey see other monkey doing well with charactermonkey thinks he can do ithe can not
Man Spirit Burn sucks on Holliday now
>>579633485It's goodYou just need tankbuster with it
>>579633546But that guy says tank buster is a throw item and he'll hate me
>>579633485you can still somewhat. SOMEWHAT get it with tankbust and bountless and let EE do the job but yeah the new barrels are a bit more jankI just use them to apply debuff while I play gun holliday
>>579633609Doesn't matter since it lets you consistently proc spirit burn and thus almost fully stack EE with one proc
>>579633609It’s true, he also thinks buying an item to enable another item is inefficient and that you should use kit synergies to proc items
>>579632832gotta go fast
>>579632357>>no surge on 2B-but... I asked /dlg/ if buying Surge of Power for Warden's Two was good, and they called me a brick and said it should go on his flask...
ABL is playing S++++ilver and winning.....
>>579633609>Instantly kills someone with Tankbuster SB Reverb CarbineSeems p good to me
>>579633865get better at movement. move speed doesnt affect dash, air, or sliding speed. this is also why point blank is ass for the "slow".
>>579634743I have a need for speed bro. these legs were made for walkin'
If deadlock is going to survive they need to add a hero with freakishly large breasts.
>>579614578Some abilities are balanced around the idea of being full boons and max items and some are not. The ones not balanced around it are way stronger.Abrams should get 30% lifesteal, cleave AND his passive should just work like huskar's where he constantly rides the lightning sitting at 10% health and being unkillable.
>>579635140isn't huskar ranged doe
Realistically how are they going to balance Warden? They keep nerfing his bullet per boon while buffing his ult, and other things in his kit. But people continue to build him gun. Do you think if they went back to how the old itemizations tree-specific inventory slots that a lot of the broken heroes would be fixed?
>>579635429they can literally keep warden as he is right now just reduce his HP and HP per boon. for some reason this guy gets more hp than abrams on top of his massive shield
>>579635429It’s not warden is mercmag. They need to gut half the spirit items 2bh
>>579634845>he doesn't slideoh no... its retarded...
>>579635429By deleting Mercurial Magnum Every hero that builds it is cancer
im gonna queue some m1 carries i dont have unlocked for ranked so I dont only have wraith as m1
>>579635247Everyone in deadlock is ranged, anon.
https://youtu.be/G10Q2XB0G-g?t=116the correct way to view solo queue in Deadlock>start game incarcerated level 1 with no data to inform upcoming combat engagements outside of being familiarized with the tools at play and map layout>humiliation ritual shit test (most quietly rage quit or micro-throw here, can also be categorized as an inconvenience or setback) that is inconsequential>followed by the slightest window of opportunity for escape that demands perfect execution in sequence alongside knowledge checks>any slight error in that sequence leads to the prisoner going down with the prison (i.e base is destroyed)>in the context of the game logic the prison is reset each game regardless of outcome, a Sisyphean struggle on a superficial level>however by overcoming each reset prison it gradually reveals and therefore dissolves the wider capitalist enthrallment matrix beyond the game itself the unseen and unacknowledged MOBA affecting all "players" across all platforms>this is done by overcoming every manifestation of despair in a digitally simulated war game which the Jewish dark mystics (Oogways) use to attempt to mind break and gaslight their prey into being their apprentices>each prison escape within the confines of the game logic therefore builds universal spiritual entropy resistance on the positive polarity>leading to resistance to all bad ends until all of the planetary social complex is affected>resulting in it being literally impossible to lose or for others to give the impressionability of loss>hence the Sisyphean struggle ends and utopia begins on the ashes of all demonkind
>>579636020abrams shotgun range isn't reliable enough for ranged lifesteal shenanigans, I think melee for forever survival is fine, but abrams already has siphon/spirit for that
>no metal skin for spiritok why though?
>>579636461ench emblem + spirit res + silencer = how does anyone have issues with spirit burst question mark
Unlocking characters for ranked is legit torture when a terrorist on the other team can just alt+f4 and deny you a win.
why exactly does knockdown not knock kelvin off of his ice path exactly?
>>579636694because it's an ice path not a flight duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhIN HERE I AM KING
They really need to nerf Escalating Exposure Kelvin's Arctic Beam is whatever but with EE its fucking stupid
>>579633206which one? you see how boundless comes AFTER overflow retard-kun?
>>579636694>>579637242>getting filtered by fucking kelvin of all heroes/dlg/ is lower than bricklo
>>579637402I said nerf Escalating not Kelvin read properly
>>579636678that's not how it works retard
>>579637482>They really need to nerf Escalating Exposure Kelvin
>>579637509That's what happened. We were way ahead at the 20m mark. Didn't win by 25. They all left and I get a match wasn't scored.
This game is a prison.
>>579637650>They really need to nerf Escalating Exposure>Kelvin's Arctic Beam is whatever moron
>>579637697Matches were utter dogshit today, geuss I need to wait for a patch.
>>579637697Funnily enough, I played with this guy a week ago...
>>579637697yep that's NA for you
>>579637482>nerf the worst item in the game
