Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9564 - Chilling out edition==NEWS==>Sonic Blitz has been cancelled https://x.com/saac_news/status/2090738578074579070?s=46>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026 https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI [Embed]>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027 https://x.com/SonicMovie==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 02 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthg-links>Milestone pastebin: https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet: https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection: https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans: https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows: https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGE https://sagexpo.org/>SHC https://shc.zone/>#10000 Project https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru: https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube: https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World: https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>579569957
Sonic <3
The coolest tailsfag abandoned his wife so he can crossdress
>>579650679Open world could be cool as fuck for Sonic if ST had any ounce of creativity or skill left
Douge
>>579651135sorry, the best we can do are floating rails and rehashed generations levels. and we won't even have the excuse of a digiworld to handwave it away.
>>579651179>>579651452How did you get these private pictures I took of my wife?
>>579651583>The year is 2026.>Frontiers haters are still mad about basic Sonic series objects four years after the game has released.>As has always been the case, these objects will return in a similar format in the next game.>They will still blame Frontiers.
>>579651840Evil hedgefoid plans to rape kitchen appliance
Sonic
He neve looked at Rouge or Amy this way
>>579651775other games' levels are very obviously abstracted from the world. frontiers does not have that abstraction to cushion the suspension of disbelief.
Movie 4 if it locks in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEhK7560Kpo
Silver
>>579652034Maybe
>>579652206*Silvaze
>>579652076Yeah, man. It's not like we had floating rails in bottomless canyons with pumpkin rocks since day 1 of rails or anything.
>>579652206I actually want the silver game to not have blaze in it. not because i care but because twitterfags will virtue signal about misogyny and because sega adn sonic team reads twitterfag responses it could cost future silver gameplay and content to be cut down.
>”Hey look Shitdow, I’m you now”
Amy
>>579652394The day either of them get a game is the day this franchise dies for good
>>579652394I love you
anyone tried sonic with dlss?
>>579652286You've convinced me. No 3d Sonic game has ever been good.
>>579652545Silver will definitely get one since soa focuses on marketing him now. Blaze, probably not.
>>579652647There we go. Now how about the 2D ones?
Shadow
>>579652845Who posts this
>>579652905Some massive loser.
>>579652708Have they really marketed him more than Tails Knuckles Amy? Where are their games?
>>579652905Scatanon.
Metal
>>579652905anon the human man who really hates faggot media made for the post modern twitter women and "women"
>>579652394>content cut down because shitaze was not in it It's funny to remember how Blaze involvement in anything made it so forgettable except when she's next to Silver, while for Silver, he's praised the most when that leech is not even around.It's hard to virtue signal for something that would not make these fags popular, that's the entire reason behind it in the first place.
>>579652801They don't make sense either, but somehow, that's more acceptable in 2D. Also more acceptable in a late 20th century video game.
>>579652905A bot
>>579652971No but it's the first time recently that they are actually making content for him via merch and tailstube etc. and they are aware of his rising popularity. the amy movie and cd having time travel shit like 06 is also a good opportunity.
Is she right, bros?https://twitter.com/BerryKitty06/status/2094886462483300442
>>579652905Anonymous the User.
Rodents
>>579653124What a beautifully edited video.
>>579653080I mean i am aware it's not casuals or even cis women who think it's actually misogynistic, but it doesn't matter, mtf even bully sonadow fan women to forcefully write yuri lol.
>>579653124
>>579653124The concept of some people actually thinking IDW will get decanonized.
>>579653421Why wouldn't it?
Frontier should have been so quirky looppy random cute but spooky references that make the normies feel left out *silly emote* *disturbing visual* *pretend like nothing happened
>>579653487Unlike some past supplementary material, Sega and Sonic Team are working very closely with it, they're much more involved and already see it as "theirs" more than any previous side project.This isn't something like Satam or Archie that they'd be fine with erasing since they didn't make it, they actually care about IDW.
>>579652394Desu?if i get one Gameplay with Silver it would be niceIf the entire reason content is being cut because of Blaze, that it will also e nice, because now she'd look like a problem.
>>579653772There is too mcuh americanisms and OOC in it for me to believe it isn't just them letting americans do the marketing overseas, and it wasn't even canon in the first place until at least 2023 ish.yes they tardwrangle them more to prevent an archie situation but that's the extent of it
Have a lovely day!!
whatafaggot
What you people do not understand is that there is no such thing as canon. Neither Sega or Sonic Team give a shit about anything that happened. The past is only referenced if it serves whatever drug-fueled ideas <current director> has. Characters exist only as designs with loose traits applied inconsistently at the discretion of the story writer.
>Beats the living shit out of /sthg/.>Ow what did I do?Quiet, you know why, you deserve every time you've been beaten up.
>>579654108That's very based actually
wave is cute. wave deserves more screen time.
You can save them both in a new main game with good writing and gameplay, or you can vault them forever. Which do you choose? Whatever you choose, they do it together
>>579653947Even if they let the Americans play around with their characters, but that doesn't mean that they don't accept the end product as part of their brand, it's not new for Sonic Team, remember Colors and Lost World?They probably don't care THAT much, since it's not something that they do fully by themselves, but it's probably still something that they think fits within their creation and are fine with adopting it into the larger brand, don't forget all IDW characters have been technically been co-created with Sega/Iizuka.
>>579654358Fuck off woman, we need to focus on Storm more
>>579654383... vault? duh? Why would anyone ever like to do anything with them but vaulting?
>>579654102Thanks, you too.
>>579654405Colors is normal japanese story outside of dubisms, they are able to keep what is consistent in jp more. lost world is the only jp thing blatantly ooc.that being said a side media that wasn't canon in the first place is much easier to dismiss than actual released games.
>>579654383into the vault
>>579653947Same with the meta era games, but those aren’t gonna be decanonized. The sooner you realize ST functionally does not care anymore the better off you’ll be
>>579654383Both in a new game but with a story like this
>>579653487>>579653947Krack...
>>579654457consider the following:if wavethen storm
>>579654632most of the ''meta era'' games in jp dub are still consistent.and again, idw wasn't canon in the first place and is easier dismiss as a side media than actual games.
IDWfags need to stop being sensitive and IDWhaters need to stop being upset over canon slop
Go to the mental ward already, /sthg/.
>>579654721I don't even have a similar persona as her really
>>579654886>IDWhaters need to stop being upset over canon slopIDW needs to stop being slop.
>>579654590The fact that they went out of their way to make it canon should tell you everything anon, we're in a new era of collaboration and brand synergy, that's not something they would've done if they saw it as expendable.
>>579654632>ST functionally does not care anymoreQuit trying to give Sallyfags hope.
>>579654886>IDWhaters need to stop being upset over canon slopYou're asking too much.
>>579654220Afraid not
>>579654727Only if she let Jet hit
>>579654538Yay!!
>>579655059Ok but collab slop is a fad that'll get old eventually, maybe it won't ever be decanonized, but i don't see it as an impossibility either. it mostly depends on how much more popular sonic can get in japan.
>>579655196>Pokemon anime is seasonal now This is weirdly a good thing
>>579655213
>>579654383Why would I vault them?
>>579650763SHUT UP FAILS
>>579655232If they didn't decanonize 06, Lost World, or Sonic 4, they won't decanonize IDW, it might be controversial, but there would be no benefit on doing so.Also, I dunno how much Japan actually matters in this specific situation since we already know Sonic's popularity there is minimal anyway, getting rid of IDW wouldn't somehow change that.
Bottom-lining it, jap purists are the worst and are worthy of every single inch of karma thrown to them.
>>579655640There's an actual Sonic canon?>>579655645Amen.
>>579655530FUCK YOU SONIC, YOU'RE USELESS.
>>579655640I bring up japan because frontiers and boc increased some of sonic's popularity over there and anectodally been seeing more jp twitter sonicfags lately. not saying it is enough but if it eventually gets enough they will prioritize appealing to homeland and west shit probably will get minimized in importance comparatively.06 is honestly one of the more relevant stories to the series, along with sa2.
>>579650763Classickino!
>>579655594Stinky
>>579655790Kind ofhttps://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/character/worldstory/index.html
>Sonic finally takes off in japan>Iizuka attends some sonic con>fans ask Iizuka about Scourge and Fiona and Mina and Sally>Iizuka yelling YAMERRUUUUUUUU to his heart's content
>>579655213>>579654457
>>579655387They should done it decades agoor just adapt the Pokemon Adventures manga into an anime
>>579656093Somehow I doubt Sonic could get so popular in Japan that they would stop caring about the majority that are the Burger fans.And even then, like I said, there'd be no point on decanonizing IDW, if anything, they'd probably just make a bigger effort to translate it into Japanese for their new bigger audience.
.Wav
The writhing viscous bio mass attached to my body hates Sonic Frontiers too
>>579655790
>>579656823>Doesn't join in Lame hoes
sonic front sirs is a roller-coaster tycoon game
>>579657142The number of canon demonic entities is concerning
>classic OPUh oh, incoming Modernbabs melty...
>>579657453Wasn't Sonic originally a demon who possessed some innocent hedgehog named Nicky?
sally
>>579657584N-no
!!
Pheasant on the glass
>>579657584More of a dare devil
>>579656473Yeaaaah, I'll be honest mate, this reminds me of Final Fantasy or the Zelda game where any kind of timeline and canonicity feels more like a mental exercise than anything real.
>>579657989Big head
...did we get to see what was Evan's full image from that charity stream?
>>579657989
>i choose... NIGGERDOW!*heavy metal music plays*
>>579657142This has less to do with "canon" and more to do with this series having an inconsistent artstyle when a cartoon/anime mix is what Sonic is. Cause I do actually appreciate the species variety than just only having cartoon animals>IF IT'S NOT A CARTOON ANIMAL THEN IT DOESN'T BELONG IN SONIC!Yeah I had enough of furfags ruining every single media they touch
>>579657616Love sonic girls with huge asses so much
>>579658490Shadow has always been black-coded. If you can't see that, you probably just hate Shadow.
>>579657453Demonic franchise.
>>579658495Kinda hard not to feel that way when most of the marketing and care goes to the furry-adjacent creatures.Robots like Omega and Emerl/Gemerl get routinely forgotten about, the god creatures/alien races are usually one game end bosses with no longevity or treated like the Wisps, any humans not named Eggman or Maria barely exist.
>>579659120
>>579657474Modern/Classic autism is the biggest cancer of the series and this fandom
>>579659208Oh yeah, forgot about Metal.
>>579659228Wrong. It's the western/Japoid autism.
>>579659228You can thank Sega for that, they started it.
>>579659228>>579659360Both can be true at once.
>>579659518Yeah, the fandom has more than 1 problem.
>>579658707>Shadow has always been black-codedThat's why he mixes so well with gay rape porn.
tongue scraping surge abs
>>579652394You want it to win a xitter argument, I want it because I think Silver is held back by the shitty half baked relationship with Blaze.
>>579659360At least with western vs japoid, we know the jap Sonic is the correct oneClassic/Modern is about people fighting about which side of mainline Sonic is more correct and trying to put Sonic into a box with a strict formula for what Sonic is allowed to be
>>579660118I wouldn't care about xitter backlash to the possible game if sega did not actually read and take the feedback there seriously. but they do.
>>579660036mmm cute tummy
>>579660256>we know the jap Sonic is the correct oneThis is EXACTLY one of the reasons why it's so fucking obnoxious. You're literally proving his point, retard.
<3
Stop!pico pico hammer time
>>579658031Accurate. Most arguments revolve around archiefags trying to claim Spinball is canon and that's why the Freedom Fighters need to come back or some shit. There's also IDW fags claiming their comics are canon even though they conflict with the games. Also retarded SoA claiming things like Sonic Prime are canon to trick people into buying/watching it.
>>579660843Amy is stinky.
Good thing Tails is canon
>>579660843I love her comically large hammer.
>>579660570correct = mainline/coreBasically the version of Sonic that every other pieces of Sonic media stems from
>>579660335It's like youtube content creatorfags dictating what to be cut down or done but worse since it's just whoever's the loudest on social media overall instead of actually mattering on either critic or casual side. kishimoto's fan talks might either go well or go awful.
>>579660872>SoA claiming things like Sonic Prime are canon to trick people into buying/watching it.That was Iizuka.
>>579660843UGLY RAT!
>>579660919
>>579660970edited tails faggot image
>>579660970>hasn't been seen in a game since Crossworlds>canon
>>579661017Yeah, and I never said otherwise. You could have said mainline/core, that's the appropriate word."Correct" isn't. That's just inviting more infighting and wars, which people intentionally word it out like that to show off their No True Scottman complexity syndrome and flex their no-life terminally online manchild asses. There isn't a "correct" Sonic, that's the point.
>>579661154He's in that Fortnites at Freddy's game
>>579661342He's WHAT?
Sonic Mania is non canon garbage
sthg. Confession time.
Sonic Mania is canon kino
>>579661045
>>579655510I'm not particularly invested into Silvaze but it feels so good to see fan art of it that portrays Silver as confident and masculine
>>579660843
>>579661419In Fartnite >>579661490Yes!
>>579661014bigger
>>579661442can’t, I’m drowning in my ennui
>>579653124Saw someone post this video in the QRTs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg8TkMtf9esNothing we don't talk about here extensively, as far as Gamenic vs IDWnic is concerned, but it really does break down why the western writing for the series has just never really worked. Was a neat watch.
>>579661442I got filtered by SA2
>>579661558I actually feel like that makes it too generic. though i don't really like uwuver thing being too overt either.also ''Galahad'' is very ironic to use here.
>>579661442It's been almost 18 years and I haven't finished Unleashed because I never collected all of the medals or did all of the hot dog missions (other than Apotos). I'm working on it right now.
Any good hetslop Tangle ships? I wish she rapes Kit.
>>579661442The more time passes the more I think Classicfags were right
>>579661698Not big enough, she should grab a weapon as big as the sword that sonic grabbed in his super form!!
>>579657763>>579659834
>>579662134:3
>>579661698Average is good.
Remember when IDW came out and Ian explained that unlike Archie this is the real Sega Sonic
>>579661042No he was talking about a unified vision for the "Brand".https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/takashi-iizuka-reveals-lack-of-unified-vision-led-to-2007-sonic-team-restructure-r2122/Sonic Prime and IDW are more on brand than say, Sonic Boom but they aren't canon.
>>579661698bigger?
>>579662220It is though, because SEGA endorses and supervises it, like it or not.
>>579662220No, but I remember Ian on some forum saying he hated Segasonic and wanted as little of it as possible in his work.
>>579661756Well, using Galahad plays into the knight and princess trope and I'm glad that Evan drew Silver in-character in the newest Tailstube episode
>>579662134Hello!!
>>579662304>SEGA endorses and supervises itSega looks over the art and maybe approves general storylines but I don't think they know much about anything else that IDW or Prime do/did, especially with the characters.
>>579662346Based Ian?
>>579662283bigger.
>>579662554
I miss my Tailsbro...
>>579662440Galahad is supposed to be completely asexual and pure, well the knights aren't completely identical to the ones in the actual story but still.I just feel like making it conform to trad roles or about bringing in secret feminine side or whatever is already too similar to either what sonazefags headcanon or what sonamy already is in canon.
>>579661270The infighting comes from people trying to make their stuff become mainline or want it to just outright replace the mainlineLike how IDW should just be it's own thing instead of needing it to be canon despite the writers not understanding the tone and characterization of the mainline series
>>579662963the many things i would do to her...
>>579662806
>>579663002To be fair the idw and prime situation is Iizuka's fault.
>>579662912He is just being polite because Blaze is a princess .___.
>>579663150Cute edgelord
Amy's boots...
>>579661527Yoooooooou've....KILLLED meeeeee...
>>579663351Good!
>>579663002>writers not understanding the tone and characterization of the mainline seriesThe mainline series has no consistent tone and characterization to begin with.
>>579663154Iizuka puts way too much faith in believing the western side actually understands the series
>>579663351
>>579663476It does outside of lost world
>>579663002That's all SEGA's doing, not the fandom. Blame the root, not the players.
>>579663748>the mainline is consistent if you ignore this, this, and also this...Then it's not consistent.
>>579663748Not even true among the Adventure games.
>>579663814Lost world is the only game actually west shit written first and the only one to contradict.
>>579663476Compared to how the west and jap side write Sonic it's inconsistent
>>579663868Not the ''maekawa changed sonic'' psyop cope again
>>579663868B-B-But the adventure games are le japanese so they are le based
Sonic is a Japanese franchise
They betrayed Mania Team
>>579663696That much was blatantly evident when he brought Ian in to write Frontiers only for the JP version to have to completely rewrite his script. (And then leave Ian on for the next several games for some reason.)
>>579663696Does he and other Sonic Team staff not listen to what the western fans actually want on Twitter?
>>579664139Mania team doomed themselves by aligning with the bitch who censored and murdered Skullgirls.
Oh cool Krack samefagging for the 184687615647897997498674# time yayyyyyy
It’s funny to check in from time to time here and see that literally nothing has changed.
It's hard to argue for a "true" modern Sonic because modern Sonic never had a consistent tone or character portrayals. Some stuff was carried between games and other stuff was forgotten. Honestly you can see that in Classic as well, though at least the core years of Classic (1991-1994) are fairly consistent, and the discrepancies afterwards are quite minimal
sticks is the most consistent character in the entire franchise
>>579664430Seek help, anon. We're worried about you. I mean not really, but you should seek help anyway.
>>579663874Colors is similar in tone and characterization, it just takes less awful risks. Forces is worse than both
>>579664694Hard to be inconsistent when you barely exist.
>>579664734Pot calling kettle black. :)
>>579663351It's weird how i start a shitposting and (You) finish it, or (You) start a shitposting and i finish it.Makes me kinda worriona'd.
This franchise is a total Frankenstein monster...
>>579664863You don't know what that means, do you...?
>>579664760She was in a 104 episode show and stayed consistent the whole time. ST could never
>>579664924Stop posting sadiona, makes me sad
>>579664000>maekawa changed sonicHe did thougheverbeit. He failed, but attempted and it carried.
Let's discuss something actually worth talking about for instance Zeti submission Thoughts ?
>>579664758Colors isn't amazing but it's fine in japanese. Forces is definitely shit but it isn't actually ooc nor continuity breaking in it's ''lore'', it's just badly written.
>>579665104Like me submitting to zeti or zeti submitting to me?I guess either is fine as long as it is Zeena.
>>579665073She's actually worriona (worried fiona).
Western fans want to see Sonic cry and have dumb teen drama so fuck off.
>>579664207Hit Detection also worked on Frontiers. They're just Sweet Baby Inc lite. I imagine Iizuka hired them too thinking that they weren't troublemakers
>>579665285Yeah but it makes me sadanon (sad anon)
>>579661270Westerners are trying to kill Amy
The sonic unleashed intro is the biggest absolute cinema bait this franchise ever got, like how much of the budget they dumped on that alone? The quality would be perfect for a movie.
Gosh he's so fucking cute
>>579665089>picwhy i'm not suprised that Classicfags don't really understand Classic Sonic
>>579665023Uh-huh, gonna call me SoA shill now?
From the way you guys talk, Iizuka is a fucking retard who has never once in his life hired the correct people, yet you're sure that next time, he'll definitely hire the good ones.
gayming with fiona
>>579665782I hate to admit it, but we need Naka in charge. He would not let any of the west stuff become canon aside from things like the Robotnik name
>>579665263Forces is insanely ooc
>>579665712They were much cooler when they used to be a blend between a classic design and modern.
>>579665736Did Sonic 1 have demonic entities and janky cutscenes and shitty half-assed game styles?
>>579665738I wasn't planning to. Did you want me to?
>>579666060The context is that he lost his courage because sonic was actually gone and dead for six months + he did not actually defeat chaos alone but with sonic and knuckles in the first place.yes, i agree the presentation of it is shit.
>>579666062Yeah I prefer the early modern designs as well. Later on they made the characters more lanky >>579666060Everytime you post this you just invite trolls
>>579666263>Everytime you post this you just invite trollsGood. No one likes you.
>>579665782He's doing exactly as he's done for 20 something years, which is to mass market Sonic through whatever means necessary
>>579666263everyphono likes you
>>579666114I like how you're not even discussing the image.
>>579666114I was talking about they view Classic Sonic as a character, not the games
>>579666527I like phonos too
>>579666549Same thing. Classic Sonic is a mix of cool and cute by principle. Modern and onwards is thoroughly cool and that makes him lamer by result.
>>579666656CUTEUTE
modernshitters, darkagevirgins and jap cucks seething hours.
>>579666676>by principlenot according to the people that designed him
I like Sonic
>>579666724YESES
Der fuchs? Lieben?
>>579666640
>>579666872Doesn't matter anyway when modern was significantly changed to chase trends.
Westerners: We just want different incarnations to exist Westerners: Archie Shadow should replace Sega Shadow because I hate him
>>579667007Ja!
>>579666215>context Does not excuse him completely freezing and showing ass out of fear for any reason. The presentation being shit means it IS shit
>>579666676The Marza Sonic model we are stuck with is the only bad design of Sonic that makes him look lame2000s Uekawa Sonic design is peak
>>579666263I will never accept people excusing Farces
>>579665325Most western fans don't want that. Only IDW's minority glazers want that. Western fans (people who actually care about quality gameplay, characterizations, and stories and who are not ultraliberal activists) want the games to have the Adventure platforming formula, movie-like stories, and accurate translations
>>579667316>surge's hanging tits ready to get suckedKit is so lucky...
>>579667509Beautiful...
>>579667680Canon surge is as flat as blaze.
>>579667756hell yea
>>579662346You are right.
>>579667939cope
>>579667756NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*flips table*
>>579667756No she ain't
>>579668061If this general has taught me anything, it's that any canon elements can be disregarded at will so long as it fits my narrative. And my narrative at the moment is tongue scrubs over Surge's fat tits.
>>579668090i would totally get this
Forces is kino Frontiers is kinoMania is westshit bastardization of classic sonic
>>579667998He's right. Archie Sonic isn't where you would look for SEGA Sonic.
>>579668269Based mindset honestly
Stop, you're giving me a boner.
The initial Sonic Movie pitch made by Pat Casey and Josh Miller before even Sony's corrections was meant to>show how Chaos Emeralds fell in South America>they created "these characters">Sonic was already a hero and protected the Zone>Robotnik one day stole the Emeralds and Sonic had to fight him in the US to get them back in order for the Zone to stay intact>Sega liked it, but said it won't pass>Sega said Sonic had to come from another worldJeff made a different pitch>Sonic as a kid, but he wasn't allowed to run>Sonic discovers a way to get to Earth where he runs and he stumbles into Robotnik>later they wanted to have Sonic on Earth faster, they didn't want to spend the entire first arc on Mobius>they wanted Sonic to have a friendship with some kid, but this was scrapped>and finally they settled on this Little Mermaid type of characterhttps://x.com/Justin61894350/status/2095250946947211666
>>579668501>>Sega said Sonic had to come from another worldWhy the FUCK was Sega so obsessed with this two worlds bullshit for so long??
PORNOOOOOOOOOOO
>>579668161Kit sexo
>>579668438
>>579668501these interviews have been out for half a decade and sonictwt is just now getting them?
>>579668623because Sonic 06 raped them so hard it made their assholes bleed
>>579667998>>579662346Nothing here ever states he hates it. Why are jap purists like this?
>>579669018this one was made surely after 2024, that concept art was released after Sonic 3
>>579669096Hate is an oversimplification but statements like "hopefully, never be purely SegaSonic," "for good or for ill," and "the SegaSonic narrative - its universe - isn't strong enough" all indicate that Ian just doesn't like it or think it's good enough to stand on its own. Stop sucking his dick.
>>579668623Because of Sonic X
I NEEEED
>>579668623It's a forces-era mandate. Sonic team was trying to pander to 90s western fans and thought they hated humans
>>579668501>Sonic is already friends with a kid, we don't need more kids>Ends with a roster full of kidsI fear this cute and funny MovieNic was just fluke and we are never going to have cute brothers bonding moments anymore
>>579669629I have a massive boner.
>>579669331None of these ever state his supposed hatred for SegaSonic, Krack. Take your meds, your bipolarity is showing.
You caused this.
>>57966902406 have nothing to do with this
>>579669701>everyone is Krack>Krack is out to get me>save me from Krack
>>579669560With clothes anon?
>>579669331Me when I project hard and make up things on a whim to carry my samefagging agenda
>>579669701>>579669879Reading comprehension is dead.
>>579669331Bro? Your reading comprehension?
miss these days
>>579669765kys krack
>>579670020Yeah, it's right there in the post. Ian says JP Sonic is too weak to be good on its own. He thinks he can do better. Right there in the post.
>>579670129Krack wouldn't reply like that. She'd write a five section post with Reddit spacing asking you why she's wrong.
Sonic is mid
>>579670148It's okay, krack, sweetie, there's no "Ian" around the corners, he doesn't exist... but please take your pills :(
>>579670397Around the corners, no, but in that old forum post, yeah. You should try reading what he has to say sometime instead of lashing out at people who aren't even here. Take your own meds, psychopath.
>>579670094Movies bringing it back, trust
>>579670148Still failing hard on reading comprehension bro.
>>579666676Modern/Classic really boils down to just a design preference, there is no objective truth to what's better. It really depends on if you like Sonic being cuter or Sonic looking coolerPersonally I prefer Sonic's design to be tweaked to better reflect the game and setting he's in instead of just having 1 static designI hate how every single game now have to use the exact same Sonic design since Unleashed. That's why I don't like the current Sonic branding shit that Sega is doing since they try to make the Sonic series look as homogenized as possible with the same look and everything without any change that would keep things fresh
>>579670597I mean look, I can't stop you from being stupid. Guessing you're American and the system has failed you since my time. No Child Left Behind, the abolishment of standardized testing... You never had a chance. Though if you're older then that, then you should probably just get your stupid ass back in line and shut the fuck up.
Who's Aeon
>>579670806Krack...
>>579670898Krack's a zoomie, that's not Krack.
Tails ^-^
None of the western Sonic stories have bothered me yet. They haven't bled into the games in a way that ruins them. Yet. If that happens I'll whine, but not now.
>>579662806Hi :)We haven't been posting at the same times lately
>>579670694I agree>>579667141They weren't chasing a trend, it's the opposite if anything, they wanted to avoid the trend of making him cuter and cuter
I'll try to be around earlier tomorrow
>>579672080We're not your personal army, faggot. Quit trying to get us to harass your archnemesis.You kids are so retarded.
Sonic is cute and silly
>>579672965Sonic DIDN'T have a rough transition!
>>579654102>back quilRuined it
>>579654108>Amy talking like AmyIan wrote this right? If so, good on him.
>>579655640>Also, I dunno how much Japan actually matters in this specific situation since we already know Sonic's popularity there is minimal anywayYou keep bringing this up like its relevant at all.
>>579660256Shut up, Mightyfag
>>579660570He's just stating facts tou dont like though
Friends :D
>>579665089I like how this is literally backwards because 90s sonicfags are the ones that associate him with the language while modernfags associate him with engrish and saying he is just a guy that loves adventure.
>>579666114>demonic entitiesIt was gonna actually.>>579666114>janky cutscenesThe last cutscene after you beat Eggy is kind of stiff actually.>half-assed game stylesYes, especially the special stages.
>>579661270>Correct" isn't.It is. You just dont like it
>>579665089>>579674753This is why the Classic/Modern division upsets me, it only exists to encourage that type of shitposting, I wish they just used different designs depending on the game instead of timeline/universe/whatever confusing nonsense they're doing now>>579674901Ssssh don't break the narrative
Is anyone here going to that Live concert? I’m thinking about it
Movienic is the real Sonic nowThe games are a spinoff seriesSonic is the electricity
>>579666676>Modern and onwards is thoroughly cool and that makes him lamer by result.Nah, you just don't actually like him being cool.
even among all the animal things in sonic, hedgehog women will always be the cutest.
>>579674401The fantastic four!
I'm Laconic. Laconic the Hedgehog!
>>579674401fuck i love the vibe of riders, i wonder when sega will bring costumes to crossworlds
>>579675330Tails is a faggot
GET OFF MY BENCH, BITCH!
Imagine if she showed up in the Movies?
>>579675083Classic/Modern split is fine. You jist dont like that some twits like that guy youre responding to make it weird and use it for faction wars.You basically jist haye it because youre the bad guy from A Bugs Fife and want it sublimated to keep em in line.https://youtu.be/VLbWnJGlyMU?si=L3SukX-_-EuUPHsjClassicfags are obnoxious but Classicverse is still a good addition to the series, and I refuse to pretend its not just to say "fuck you" to boomers online like some people here.
>>579673376I NEED HER FATTER
Implementing the Riders outfits and extreme gear into Crossworlds isn't hard. I don't why Sonic Team hasn't done it yet? They're in popular demand
>>579675508When I saw Fowler describe him as that, it made me Just a bit happier. It showed he does get that they are different and he gets the game character enough.
>>579676021why do work when modders do it for free?
>>579676109Mods don't work on PS4, PS5, and Xbox
>>579676240I can't imagine people genuinely play video games on consoles. They just do it ironically.
>>579675858>ClassicverseIt's just the past dude.
>>579674901Nice bait.>>579675083Don't self-reply.
>>579676380I do it because I don't have a gaming PC nor a private room to use it in. Physical media matters
soon
>>579676045Yeah, that's interesting, though it doesn't mean much for the end result>>579675858No, I don't like that it forces every official thing from the series to be slotted into "Classic" or "Modern", which does encourage the behavior. I would prefer more flexibility
>>579676719For absolutely nothing, i get Barnes wanted to create his own OC but at least be creative, he made an Egyptian flat Rouge.
>>579674401I wish the games treated them like actual friends rather than Sonic’s cult. Even IDW and the movies are better at this
Built for precious metals
>>579675360then why didn't you post one?
>>579675667For wanting to cuddle with Sonic? We should all be such faggots
STOP MAKING JOKES ABOUT SALLY ACORN HAVING SEX AND BEING A WHORE
>>579667998This combined with my pic-related further shows Ian does indeed look down on the game universe.
>>579677332they're not jokes
>>579677217
>>579677332Hi, Ian.
>>579677840Aleena x Longclaw. Sonic's two moms.
Sally Acorn: I LOVE HAVING SEX WITH MANY PEOPLESally fans: No she doesn't
>>579676390For marketing reasons. In practice it hasn't changed.>>579676632>baitImagine defending PukeBag zone.
>>579677989Leave her alone
>>579677961You mean 5
>>579676914>No, I don't like that it forces every official thing from the series to be slotted into "Classic" or "Modern", which does encourage the behavior. I would prefer more flexibilityI already told you Mightyfag, we dont need all the classicfodder characters in Modern. Youre being like IDWfags right now.
>>579677096Frontiers came close to doing this but didn't quite do it. You need to show them spending leisurely time with each other but Sonic Team can't be bothered to do that. Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles could go fishing together, Knuckles could teach Tails new fighting skills, Sonic and Knuckles could go hiking together, and Sonic and Amy could go on dates together, but no
>>579677096Have you ever just tried a different franchise instead?
Who's your favourite Princess?
Classic is garbageMania was a excuse for westniggers to shit up the series
>>579678753Name one other franchise with cute monster girls (especially hedgehogs).
>>579678753I can like this franchise however I want, just because it doesn’t include worshipping dogshit uninspired games doesn’t make me less of a fan>>579678467Frontiers didn’t really come close, basically every conversation had to do with Sonic in some way, all 3 of them needed Sonic to give them some sage (no pun intended) wisdom or advice. If Sonic Tram cared about them at all they’d actually give them each their own campaigns in the next game like Ian was hinting at, but they won’t. They don’t actually care about anyone besides Sonic and Shadow
>>579678987Blaze is the only that matters
>>579678987
>>579679652
>>579679110that's a bandicoot
>>579679485Frontiers did add Tails, Knuckles, and Amy as playable characters but only later on and their stories were short. The next game needs to have stories for Tails, Knuckles, and Amy as long as the ones from SA1, and a better open world.I think Sonic Team only cares about Shadow now, not even Sonic. It feels like Shadow does all the cool stuff now and that Sonic has never recovered the coolness he used to have in the 2000s games
>>579678197I don't know what you're talking about. I don't like it and that's it. Seeing Mighty or other characters in different styles would be cool>>579680526>The next game needs to have stories for Tails, Knuckles, and Amy as long as the ones from SA1SA1's are good, but I would prefer if they were longer>Sonic Team only cares about Shadow nowSilly meme, he's not even in Frontiers. Sonic had some cool boss fights in that game at least
Eggman says: GAWK GAWK
>>579679880Really?the dimorphism is insane
>>579680859I still miss the cool moments Sonic had in the cutscenes and boss fights of 06, Unleashed, and Black Knight. They're the gold standard for what makes Sonic cool as an individual character
>>579681096Didn't like the Frontiers bosses?
>>579681943The best boy
>>579679485>I can like this franchise however I wantWhat you're asking of it doesn't exist.
>>579678434they don't look like that
>>579680859>Seeing Mighty or other characters in different styles would be coolNot really
>>579682280Yes!!!!!!
I'm going to play Hoshi no Kirby, and no one can stop me.
>>579682284Yes it does. Boom, IDW, the movies, etc all make them feel like an actual friend group rather than a cult of dickriders. You’re allowed to ask for better of things, that’s how life works anon
>>579680526>I think Sonic Team only cares about Shadow now,No anon. Shadow being popular because he was in a movie doesn't mean they only care about him.No him being brought doen a peg won't make Tails the main character either.
>>579682528Okay I disagree I think it would be cool>>579682762Have fun!!!Which game are you playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNnqhHIeuWI
>>579680526>It feels like Shadow does all the cool stuff now and that Sonic has never recovered the coolness he used to have in the 2000s gamesWhat are you actually talking about?Frontiers is literally just Sonic aurafarming and DBZcomboing EVAs all day.
"shadow is being greedy" said the tails amy and silver fans
Where are the new issues?
https://files.catbox.moe/k33s7t.jpeg
>>579682864>Okay I disagree I think it would be coolYou're pretending its not the motive when it always was.
>>579682864Hoshi no Kirby.
>>579681096Could Sonic beat the Roaring Knight?
>>579682967silver is being greedy desu
>>579682967>said the fans of characters who deserve moreUhh yeah?
>>579682816Let me guess... you also want Sonic to be vulnerable and relatable.
>>579682967>amyfagsIm literally an Amyfag calling people who say "Shadow is greedy"fags delusional. Amyfags don't really do it in general. We are more preoccupied with worrying about her writing and if the movie will butcher her or not.This 100% rivalfags and Tailsfags.
>>579683094Cool!The one without Copy Abilities
>>579682967>said the tails blaze and silver fansFTFY
>>579682967>tails amy and silver>silverEvery timeverytime
>>579682990in our fucking lettuce anon
>>579683214I'm a Tailsfag and I posted this >>579680859The greedy Shadow meme is dumb. He didn't get much or anything for a decade, got a cheap DLC in 2017, and got back to getting nothing for 5 more yearsIt's dumb to blame that on a single group
do you even like coming here anymore?
>>579683112Nothing wrong with being greedy sometimes, sometimes you just want the entire roaster to yourself cause that's just who you are and no it's degrading and gross it's HOT DAMN IT...sorry
>>579683161I have no clue how those dots could connect in your mind. You are mentally unwell
>>579662016
>>579683481I pop in every few weeks know to be honest with you nothing you guys did in particular though but rememberI'm here for you sthg for you I'll always be here :)
>>579678987Blaze was never said to be a princess, it's a headcanon.
>>579683481It's funny to watch the latest purity spiral over "canon" or the latest arc of the krack'cord finding something to melt down over.
>>579683481Kinda.None of the recurring posters and fads are really grabbing me right now. Honestly, they haven't been for a while.It's not a shitstorm or a schizospam nightmare or a constant furious argument, but it's also not very interesting.
>>579684067Nice bait
>>579683573They go hand in hand. Be honest, that's what you're thinking.
>>579682967Every fag believes this btw, suck it shitdowgays
>>579662016I have no idea how this isn’t a bigger ship imagine the tail-based sex acts
>>579684159She's always been a guardian and nothing more dumbass, and her dimension doesn't have a name as well.
>>579684181No they don’t and no I don’t. You are delusional
>>579683112Don't you fags want an entire sub series devoted to you irrelevant dimension or something?
>>579682816>Yes it does. Boom, IDW, the movies, etc all make them feel like an actual friend group rather than a cult of dickriders.The idea is supposed to be that Sonic is a rebel who gets a bunch of followers in his "gang". Its called a nakama.Its a thing with its own merit and charm and is preferable because it lets the characters have their own lives and be defined by personal journeys that are complementary.
>>579683716>I'm here for you sthg for you I'll always be here :)...ahem
>>579684205This is how Forces Tails should’ve been written
>>579682816Tailsfag...>>579683454Okay so you're the boyposter. Cool. You're the good one. You can't lie and say it isn't obvious that Tailscels are a huge part of this narrative along with Silver and Blazefags.Amy & Metalfags are just waiting for the movie at this point. They have no reason to be lumped into this "greedy shadow' shit.
>>579684473I don’t see how being “gang followers” allows for them to have their own lives more than just being normal friends
>>579684314>didnt play RushWe can call put Blazeshitters without just saying flagrantly incorrect shit.>her dimension has no nameDuh
Congratulations Blazefans! Blaze became relevant enough to be part of an IDW story, now she's going to job exactly like we do, how we feeling?
>>579684815>didnt play RushWhy would i?
>>579684205What a good Tails page. Iizuka could learn a thing or two.
>>579684736>I don’t see how being “gang followers” allows for them to have their own lives more than just being normal friendsBecause the latter forces you to have to ground them in a centeal setting and make their existences revolve around always being with eachother.In Sonic Unleashed, Sonic just runs into Amy in Spagonia. She isnt there because they are always in touch and call eachother every day and thry go everywhere together. No.Amy was there ON HER OWN for her own reasons because she wanted to go there herself. And then happens to run into Sonic.People talk about how she revolves around Sonic in that era but despite her being less Megadere over him, she arguably revolves around him way more now.At least before, when she found Aonic it was because she happened to or chose to of her own volition. Now she ironically has less agency.
Fattest life form
>>579684970How original and unexpected
>>579684529>best friend kills you for the second time just to turn you into a coatSome friend huh
>>579684624>listing off every characterfag group assessing how much of a “problem” they areIt’s very obvious you’re just an insecure Shadowfag who can’t even enjoy the victory, you need to make everyone else feel bad about it too. I hope Archie Shadow crawls its way back into the main sphere of influence and people get sick of Shadow again, just like they did before
>>579685129This meme format has been utterly rated by normies to the point of not even being coherent anymore.
>>579685386
>>579685273No, it's obvious im an Amyfag and not a fan of you using me as your smokescreen.#NotYourShield. You give Tailsbros a bad name.
after playing the new sonic xg demo, i really want a saturn sonic game. they nailed the aesthetic perfectly. i will be sad if this turns out to be another vaporware but hopefully it influences the scene in general going forward like mania did because goddamn. first fangame in a while that actually hooked me and made me excited for more
>>579684205>imagine the tail-based sex actsErogenous ZoneAct 1
>>579685116>Because the latter forces you to have to ground them in a centeal setting and make their existences revolve around always being with eachother.Dude, do you have friends irl? You get together because you want to, not because you feel like you HAVE to. That’s why you consider them friends. If anything being a “gang follower” feels like way more of an obligation
>>579685450>lost to base Emerl No one played Battle because this didnt happen. Emeral had 7 Chaos Emeralds when he beat him.
>>579685494Shadownigger did you just use a fucking hashtag to look like a girly Amyfag?
>>579685572You're taking both angles way too literally here. He's talking from a narrative/writing standpoint. A friendship is kind of meaningless in writing unless you do something with it. Sonic having a bunch of people who just sort of intersect with him from time to time gives more flexibility to let them do whatever without the obligation to make them some kind of emotionally bonded pair. I probably can't explain it as well as he might, but yeah, you're basically just looking at this too literally.
>>579685572>Dude, do you have friends irl?Yes? Do you? I know you kids these days all deal with friendlessness.Me and my friends are hanging out this weekend actually.>You get together because you want to, not because you feel like you HAVE to.No, you got together because you happen to meet up because of your oen life situation (school, work, etc) resulting in you meeting eachother. You only really hung out deliberately on occasion.No, chatting on discord doesnt count.
>>579684067
>>579685494Your attempts at deflecting are hilarious. No Amyfag aside from the Shadamy weirdos would go on a rant about how each individual character group is contributing to “shadow slander”. Hilariously insecure
>>579685617Greedy fag
>>579683108Probably Undertale/Deltarune's world is kinda underpowered in general.
>>579685557>remembers the altsImagine if Tangle was TransWould you suck her cock?
>>579685572>That’s why you consider them friends. If anything being a “gang follower” feels like way more of an obligationIt's not a literally crime gang. It's more like youth culture clics. You're friends and you have your oen lives but you get together for your particular hobby or interest rather than your lives completely revolving around eachother.None of this even matters anyway because there is no inherent "superiority" to makong them like the backyardigans or neighbors like its Boom or something.From a narrative standpoint, doing so only limits the writing and characters, not the reverse. I dont know how anyone can think Knuckles just being Sonic's brother who lives in a suburban house with him is better than him being his own character as guardian of Angel island and thr master emerald.We're just collecting Sonic scrimblos like its 100Girlfriends or something.
>>579685254>Following his creation, CatNap would act like a pet to The Prototype whenever they were together, although The Prototype seemingly ignored him. This eventually escalated into CatNap worshipping The Prototype as a god, but despite this flaw of his and the experiment’s "tumultuous" adjustment period,Harley Sawyerbelieved that CatNap's overall success rivalled even that ofExperiment 1170's, who was one of the most successful experiments.He was just fodder to him
>>579685903>she takes her job so seriously she doesn't know about friendshipShe literally sucks at her job so bad her emeralds asked for help from someone else, and she doesn't have the brain cells to compute that
>>579685650Its a gamergate reference, alphie.
>>579686165>Harley SawyerYou think him and Eggman would get along
Why does Blaze even needs to be princess for? isn't that redundant?
>>579685971Fine go ahead with your Shadow derangement. Just keep us Amy fans out of this.
>>579686339Nishiyama needed his pet character to be that much more super special awesome.
>>579686387Nigga Amyfags hate Shadow, in fact he's about to take all their screen time in their own movie.
>>579685903That's what i said by headcanon, wrong translations and nobody really gave a single fuck about her to this day
shadow is about to take everything. stop him so my character can have something
Shadow and Blaze are mistakes
>>579685695>a bunch of people who just sort of intersect with him from time to timeThat’s what friends are for the most part. Who ever said friendship meant you needed to see each other X often? No one, that’s absurd>>579685795You’re describing a situationship not a friendship. What the core 4 (should) have is deeper than that at the very least >>579686139>You're friends and you have your oen lives but you get together for your particular hobby or interest rather than your lives completely revolving around eachother.Again, what is with you people and your views of friendship? There is no “devotion” or obligation to spending time with each other, you do it because YOU WANT TO, and at whatever frequency you want to. Having friends doesn’t mean you can’t have your own personal life, if anything of your “friends” make you feel this way, they’re not actually your friend, they’re using you. That’s what the game core 4 feels like more than any other version of it
>>579686678Learn how to be a good background character.
>>579686606Sonic and the others refer to her as a princess multiple times in both Archie and IDW.Are you being retarded on purpose?
>>579686512Nice propaganda bro.>>579686874>situationshipThat's not ven what that is. Youre just saying words. A situationship is a about dating, not friends.
>>579686917>Fucking comicstake an acid shower.
>>579686678
>>579687068>comics that have been repeatedly made canon by both SoA and SoJSHOW US YOUR NOSE
>>579686874Why are you policing lad culture friendships? Are you a fucking woman? Scratch that. Gals did the same shit im describing. No this is just the consequence of spineless looses and need blankey's at this point.This isn't fucking Jimmy Neutron or Fairly Odd Parents or Owl House.
>>579686874>There is no “devotion” or obligation to spending time with each other, you do it because YOU WANT TOYou're literally arguing against shit no one said.
>>579687242I’m literally not policing anything. YOU are the one saying friendships need to entail some sort of obligation instead of what they actually are: hanging out whenever/however you want actually enjoy each other’s company
>>579687353You literally fucking said that friendships include “your lives completely revolving around each other”. Literally your words >>579686139
Sega has FORGOTTEN about Sonic
Sonic and Knuckles shouldn't be friends. Knuckles was cooler when he did his own thing
>>579684332Yeah, whatever you say, buddy.
>>579686017>entire dlc>entire movie>whole new gameChoice words to make 3 levels made up of reused assets and copy pasted level sections sound bigger than it is.Shadow Gens is a re-release of a game with added content.>animated miniseries.Yes like Divergence, Mania Adventures and the Trip comics for IDW. Its called cross promotion.>appearances in comics.He actually appears less in them than most characters and his tie-in comic got canceled.>prominent roll in Prime.You mean he got to beat up Sonic. Thats it. He doesnt really do much outside of that.Shadow is actually undershilled relative to how popular he is.Not saying he should be shilled more but holy shit you people oveestate it. Sonic team are actually rather careful about using him.
>>579687468>YOU are the one saying friendships need to entail some sort of obligation instead of what they actually are: hanging out whenever/however you want actually enjoy each other’s companyWhere did i say this? >>579687616No stupid. Im saying your definition of friendship forces this by using the examples YOU GAVE.Im saying friendship doesnt require any of that shit to be valid. You started this convo by saying that shit made them "actually real friends instead of Sonic dickriders".
>>579687727Friends can do their own things
extremely tiny kit is best kit
>>579681462I didn't get the game even after watching gameplay of it because I personally didn't like the fact that the islands were empty. I also hated how different the English and Japanese scripts were because the Japanese one was better. I saw the video that translated its dialogue
>>579686017I like the au variants. We should have got a proper au Sonic and au Shadow too.Shadow, I know you're using that prism as a butplug. Squeeze harder and shatter that prism again for a new series.
>>579688094Lots of people really like to make him shorter than he really is. It's fuuny.
>>579687983Core4 fags are just as bad as TeamDarkfags. They just want to soften all of the characters and turn Sonic into Bluey
おしまい
>>579687941What examples did I give that gave that impression? None. I called them dickriders in the games because that’s what they became. Tails Knuckles and Amy have zero chemistry with each other, they only have it with Sonic individually. They also lost a ton of their agency, their only purpose is how they can help or even just cheerlead for Sonic. I DON’T want this
Is there a mod to give Japan's script to Frontiers?
>>579682934It would've been cooler if the enemies had been like Mephiles, Dark Gaia, or Infinite in my opinion
>no dialogueMania is unplayable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=makCY8JSqgE
>>579688517Aren't you able to play the game with the Japanese dialogue but with the subtitles of the English script without modding the game?
https://x.com/HyperBitHero/status/2087558123607191598
>>579685526>fan gamesYou hate Sonic
>>579688517there is a retranslation mod on gamebanana i think
>>579689687That's certainly one way to view them
>>579689010Yes, but the English subtitles often don't match what they say in Japanese
>>579688276
>>579685526A Saturn Sonic game would have never looked like that. Everyone wanted modern 3D polygonal graphics at the time, not a 2D early 90s retro nostalgia throwback. Everything about this "Classic Sonic" Mania/fangame trend is a lie.
>>579689992That's what I was referring to? I despise that. What's the point of being able to switch the language of the spoken dialogue if the English subtitles won't translate it? What was Morio Kishimoto thinking?
All this fighting over what relationship the other Sonic characters are supposed to have with Sonic himself.
>>579690170thats true but i think it nails the aesthetic sonic team were going for at the time. it looks like if the original sonic adventure concept art was turned into a 2d game, which is pretty cool i think. id love to see a proper 3d game in the sonic jam style but i think thats a bit too complex for the scene in its current state, aesthetically nu-XG is very close to pre-redesign sonic, more than the mega drive or dreamcast games
>>579690260The east Asian script isn't intended for the western audience. That's what they were thinking, localized versions are for your market and you shouldn't care or know about the original Japanese because it's not adapted and approved for your culture and how they want the series to be perceived in your area
>>579690423Alright that's a fair point or rationalization, not something I can argue with. Maybe a mod or remake/"demake" of SA1 could achieve that look. Although I do like the Dreamcast graphics a lot
>>579690170i wouldn't say it's a lie but more like a cope to wish sega had gone the route of sticking to 2D like symphony of the night or dungeons and dragons or the megaman X games on ps1
>>579690260>>579690443tbf with frontiers its just a pants-on-head situation all around. kishimoto made the setting and basic concepts, but all the dialogue was written by ian, who basically ignored it and just wrote his own thing, probably because he didnt even see what kishimoto was going for. and then kishimoto MTL'd the english script back into japanese and changed some things he didnt like to make it more in line with his own vision. but the field dialogue was handled by a different team and was closer to the english original. its just a complete incoherent experience all around no matter what script you decide to play with. sonic team just needs another maekawa because even when stuff is handled completely by the japanese like with forces it still flops because theres nobody there who knows how to turn those base ideas into a good story anymore
>the perfect Sonic game doesn't exi-
Sonic is Adventure sexual
>>579690443The English script significantly changed the characters' dialogue exchanges. In the English version, Knuckles confides in Sonic that he just wants to have fun despite having to guard the master emerald and Sonic then encourages him to "get out there and live a little". The Japanese version makes Knuckles say that he wants to know more about his clan's origins despite it being risky to his life.The English version of Amy's exchange with Sonic makes her say something vague about sharing her love with the world while the Japanese version makes her verbally express love for him.This is extremely unprofessional and unfair and it strips Amy of her biggest character trait in the English dialogue, not to mention that it also changes the motivations and goals of the Tails and Knuckles too. "It's meant to appeal to western sensibilities" is a stupid and meaningless excusehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acs8UXi3yechttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/pN3newGKbyY
whisper is me sexual :)
>>579691514gross
Sonether of the comics came out today?
>>579691884I agree, I wasn't justifying it, I don't like localization either
>>579691964kill yourself, euronigger.
>>579691938
>>579691964who cares? it's shit. why are you still reading garbage
>>579692012Anon, I'm a burger
>>579691017I desperately want a Japanese writer to write the games too. It doesn't create massive discrepancies that are found in localizations. How did Ian even get away with ignoring Kishimoto's vision for the dialogue?Forces had massive discrepancies between the English and Japanese dialogue too. The English dialogue made the characters jokey, sarcastic, and out of character while the Japanese one was in character
Have a screenshot of every single Sonic Channel fanart submission along with the artist and staff comment now. Automated it.
ok retard, why should I care
>>579692713Who are you talking to?
>>579692531I also translated all 2,500+ to English
>>579693057Both langs at once
>>579691017>kishimoto MTL'd the English script back into Japanese and changed some thingsHe didn't MTL because he got the Japanese translation and was doing the final check, but he saw how weird it was and wanted to change it. Also, he changed everything and did it himself because there were no writers available; kinda why, if you play in Japanese, the story is almost completely different. I do remember him saying he went without sleeping to finish the script before the launch.
>>579691978Plus, localization has to do with replacing foreign cultural concepts with domestic ones. It's like finding the closest English analogue for a Japanese idiom instead of literally translating and explaining the meaning of the Japanese idiom. There was no reason for the English script of Frontiers to change Tails and Knuckles' motivations and goals and for it to erase Amy's love for Sonic. These things need to be translated, not changed.
>>579692397>Forces had massive discrepancies between the English and Japanese dialogue too. The English dialogue made the characters jokey, sarcastic, and out of character while the Japanese one was in characterthe changes for english definitely suck but the main problem with forces is just that its bad. infinite is potential man 2 but even worse. he has a concept of a backstory thats never elaborated on and his character never gets a conclusion. the OC is done really poorly and in a boring way. the way the whole war thing is handled is just really cheap and not good, theres no stakes or urgency. the world design is generic and not interesting, theres none of the stuff that makes sonic "sonic" other than sonic characters being present. a better writer could take forces and turn it into something interesting but it would probably be almost completely different in form from the current final game
>>579693368If you consider the sub-culture within the western Sonic fanbase, then it is a form of localization. They made those changes because they thought the west would respond more positively to them. Example: Tails mentioning Infinite directly in English
>>579693262Is this why Kishimoto didn't change the English script to be more like the Japanese one? He simply ran out of time to do it?
From Frontiers and IDW, I think Ian Flynn has a very specific mold and comfort zone for writing Sonic. And once he's taken out of it, he keeps trying to force it back into it, even when it doesn't benefit the constraints he's working from.
>>579688498>What examples did I give that gave that impressionI literally listed em.in thrbpost you didnt read.
The west has an obsession with trying to ground the sonic series in reality
>>579685450>7 Sonadow fanfics with better writting
>>579691017Forces' problem was just budget and having no staff and resources and meta era mandates really.
>>579693754Probably.They probably lacked the time to change the script and just let it stay like that.
>>579694176>bsky filenameidwfags are gross
>>579693503Colors and Lost World also had language discrepancies. Jokey and sarcastic in English but in-character in Japanese. The worst part about this is that Ken Pontac and Warren Graff then clarified as a response to backlash that they didn't take liberties when writing the English dialogue and that Sonic Team had ordered them to write it like that. They sent a bunch of drafts and revisions to Sonic Team until Sonic Team approved of it 100 percent.I fear that even if we do get a Japanese writer again, the lore team is going to whisper into Sonic Team's ear and tell them that western fans want the English dialogue to be super different from the Japanese one and Sonic Team is going to gullibly believe the lore team
>>579693503>the changes for english definitely suck but the main problem with forces is just that its bad. Kind of yeah.>infinite is potential man 2 but even worse. he has a concept of a backstory thats never elaborated onUntrue. >and his character never gets a conclusion. Sure>the OC is done really poorly and in a boring way.Oc is fine imo.>the way the whole war thing is handled is just really cheap and not good, theres no stakes or urgency. the world design is generic and not interesting, theres none of the stuff that makes sonic "sonic" other than sonic characters being present. a better writer could take forces and turn it into something interesting but it would probably be almost completely different in form from the current final gameI actually dont thibk it would be completely different. It would more just fill in the space and realise its ideas.The core the story is solid.
Maria!Maria getting very sick!Maria's grandpa taking care of her!Maria in too much pain to see or walk!Maria's grandpa making her a cure!Maria watching a boy take his first unsteady steps!Maria's new friend Shadow!Maria poking Shadow's nose and introducing herself!Maria teaching Shadow his name means hope and light!Maria sneaking Shadow real food from the kitchen!Maria pulling Shadow into her warm bed after the injections!Maria keeping her hand on Shadow's back until the trembling stops!Maria reading Shadow stories even when she can barely sit up!Maria promising Shadow they'll see the ocean together!Maria promising to hold Shadow's hand if people stare at his red eyes!Maria telling Shadow his eyes are beautiful and not scary!Maria teaching Shadow that friends keep their promises!Maria helping Shadow make a Valentine's card with a crooked heart on it!Maria getting her first Valentine's card from Shadow!Maria hanging Shadow's card on her bedroom wall!Maria wrapping Shadow’s first Christmas present in blue paper!Maria giving Shadow a book of stories about rivers!Maria giving Shadow a cake she made on his third birthday!Maria leaving forever the week after Shadow's third birthday!Shadow going to sleep for a long time!Shadow still keeping the promise because friends keep their promises!Maria and Shadow!
>>579693961Then Ian needs to get lost and let someone who actually cares about the true characters step in
>>579694893Ian Flynn is the good guy.
>>579695003>fastest thing aliveCringe>world's fastest super sonic hedgehogSOVL
>>579694296I wish there were a dark and tragically sad backstory of how Amy was turned into Rusty Rose
>>579694176>
>>579694398of course but something just being in character doesnt mean its good. its one part of the pie. colors is probably the strongest post-maekawa story in japanese but it still has quite a few drawbacks, the story was still animated around the english dialogue. it exceeds in its visual storytelling and world design, which is basically the last of its kind in the series because all the artists left after gens. japanese lost world is "in character" but it doesnt really fix the nothingburger 0 subtlety story, bpd tails is still there, the stages still look like NSMB with a fisherprice aesthetic, it is still comedy focused the jokes are just different and sonic doesnt have the "roger voice" that makes everything he says sound weird. they tried to do a serious story for forces but there is just no writing talent at sonic team anymore.
>>579695003No
>>579691978>>579693368This is adaptation, not localization. Localization is effectively just translation, or more accurately, translating product. If you produced a direct translation, that is also a straightforward localization. The problem in recent years is that this has become more of a buzzword and you have people trying to make them divorced concepts or redefining words. Like, say, Ian Flynn, who is not a translator, claiming he "localized" text, which he uses as an excuse for his wikidroppings, rewrites, and song lyrics...
>>579695185surge is flatter than blaze
>>579694246Will Kishimoto make sure the next game's English and Japanese scripts are similar in dialogue? He better
>>579695105I do wish there were a little more lore with New Yolk in general. Like it showed Rouge and Knuckles when the Chaos Council first took over, and they didn't look significantly different. How long did that city take to construct? Was Amy regular happy Amy? Why'd they pick her for their pet cyborg? Or maybe she was their cyborg before the city even started construction - following Sonic CD ideas, maybe she ran off to find her true love, but Sonic did not exist, leaving her captured by the Council instead.
>>579694885Based and soulful beyond compare
>>579695384not me, but please refer to >>579668269
>>579695376Ian Flynn is the Neil Druckmann of Sonic
>>579695518He might try, but even if the writer is Japanese, the (((Lore Team))) are the ones responsible for the localization.
>>579695272Damn, why does the West hate Shadow so much?
>>579696280What is Rusty Rose holding
>>579695572>Was Amy regular happy Amy?>following Sonic CD ideas, maybe she ran off to find her true love, but Sonic did not exist, leaving her captured by the Council instead.I like to imagine this is what happened. She was forcibly merged with robotic machinery and somehow stripped of her kindness, empathy, and love for Sonic to be a ruthless killing machine. Just imagine how sad and horrifying it would've been for her to not have been stripped of her kindness, empathy, and love for Sonic and then she wakes up after the cyborg-ization procedure was done. She realizes that her right eye has removed and that her body is nearly completely encased by metal. This fills her with existential dread
>>579696434Oh! That's Amy Rose!
>>579695615Cuuuute
>>579696570https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYPX-QQR9Tg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFpGF0RSRs0
>>579696147The lore team already got exposed for erasing Amy's love for Sonic from her SOA bio and Chris got further exposed for saying that he would update her bio but never actually having done it. The next game is likely going to get released in 2027, Movie 4 is going to come out that year, and Year of Amy is going to be based on romantic love. You think this will successfully deter the lore team from further meddling with Amy's character?
Sa2 is a blue game and shth is a red game
>>579696829This is what the Chaos Council would do to her if they were sadists. Horrifying. Forget Amy getting herr arms and legs cut off and replaced with metal ones while awake. Imagine her right eye being gouged out while she was wake.Even if Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles somehow found a way to reverse her cyborg-ization, I don't think Amy would want to live the rest of her life with prosthetic arms and legs and a missing eye. She would feel like Alex Murphy from the 2014 Robocop movie. "Just unplug whatever it is keepin' me alive and end this nightmare"
>>579697256I think that if SoA doesn't compromise on working with SoJ, and certain key people are changed or removed from their positions, things won't change. Even when the movie is released and Amy and Sonic start a relationship in the movie, things won't change, they will just play the long game and keep pushing their own agenda, but more slowly, with the excuse that the movie and the games are two different things. That's how I see things.
>>579698342>Sonic and Amy starting a relationship>implying Amy isn't going to girlboss all over him then give him a backhanded compliment. Shadow will also show up for all of five minutes, punch someone, then disappear
>>579697916Rusty doesn't seem particularly upset with herself, and never displays distress at her body. She frees her flicky, but seems perfectly happy to utilize her body in the fight.Of course, it is a show made for children, so they were never going to explore a potential existential crisis, especially not in the final episode when they're trying to end on a happy note.
SEGA should bring Nightmare Thirteen back as a villain for a new Sonic game. That would be epic.
>>579698447I'm not a Sonamyfag, but the whole idea of the movie 4 is to capitalize on it. It sure is not what people here are expecting, because it is going to be childish, but I am not going to deny it.
>>579698794that's like saying shipping was the whole idea of sonic cd
>>579696171Because they want him to be Fanon Shadow or Archie Shadow.
>>579696171>the WestIan is in the same camp as classicfags who think Shadow stole Knuckles' and metal sonic's roles and always made Shadow job to them.>>579699697Even in Archie where he wrote Shadow the way he wanted
>>579696171I don't like him because he's the epitome of edgy 13 year olds
>written by Ian Flynn
>>579699936You have no idea what kind of character Shadow is if this is your interpretation
>>579699936You make a lot of sense.
>>579700112People still blaming SoJ for the characterization issues are legitimately insane. It's Ian and SoA that makes Shadow into a pathetic failure.
>>579683660The only ship that won't break your heart
>>579699936>>579700298samefagdon't worry westie your favorite selfinsert character will get the spotlight one day
>*sluurrrrrp* Shadow jobbing to cheese
>>579700265You weren't a middle schooler anywhere around 2000-2005 and it shows.
>>579700603Are you implying middle schoolers are right about Shadow?Shadow isn't really edgy. You just pay too much attention to memes, fanart, and English localizations that drop important elements.
>仕方ないまあ..仕方ないね
>>579699936But that's what I like about him.
TANA-
>>579700810Silver and Blaze.Shadow and Maria.Tanabata.
>1991: Making autism.exe™ for a Sega© console with a Motorola® processor
Guess who wrote this.
Tanabata haters are a cancer. The entire Sonic series is about wishes, dreams, and hopes. Tanabata is a holiday exactly for that.
>>579700959I never consumed this issue first hand I think, but it's Ian.
goodnight sthg :) try not to rip each other apart. muscle rusty is watching.
>>579700878>tried to sneak it in
>>579700959>STK my heroes will overpower Shadow the faker anytime anyday. tails will overcome his fears just to beat Shadow up using his advanced tech
>>579700959And this.
>>579701079Sneak what in? Both pairings are explicitly said to represent Tanabata in ways.
>>579698709Sonic mania 2 antagonists.
Shitdow
Both ian and the kawaii people are terrible at characterization.Still, the biggest crime comes from sonic team who don't know who their oen characters are, they prefer to hire westerners with personal headcanons and autism to deconstruct 20 years of story.
>>579700959>The one time Ken and Ian agree on something, 2014 colorized
>>579700959
>he's still going
>>579701113And this one!
i have a tanabata fatigue>but it's the intention from sonic teami have a sonic team fatigue. their latest games ain't even that fun>>579701190Penders calls Shadow "Knuckles 2.0 only done better" in his shadow files book
>>579701175Me on the left
i have jap fatigue.
>>579701190Ken would probably think Shadow would kill Knuckles instantly now.
>>579701175>sonic team who don't know who their oen characters areHow? Do you have specific examples?
>>579700112>>579700959>>579701113Not to defend flynn but:>shitdow is supposed to be OP against everyone and everythingYou basically want an edgy gary stu.
>>579701357fuck off back to preddit then, this is a site for japanese media discussion
>>579701257It's genuinely baffling to me how much Ian hates Shadow.
>>579701561Shadow is Sonic's equal and Sonic beats Knuckles.
>>579701272Tanabata is the intention. Cry about it.
>>579698342But many also believe Sonic and Amy will become a couple in the games too. It has a good chance of happening and it would work against the lore team
>>579701575>jap defender
>>579701484>How? Do you have specific examples?The entirety of forces being dogahit? 40 years of franchise where sonic changes according to the arc/AU and is never anything more than a flat ass character?
>>579701623Shadow is the Ultimate Lifeform. He should be everyone. At the same time.
>>579701561He's supposed to be equal to Sonic. Not weaker than Sonic.
archiefags are leeches. all they do is be ungrateful unhappy fags who bitch about people who made the characters
>>579701687Back.
>>579701561>Not to defend flynn but:Shut up Ian.>>579701703Shadow is equal to Sonic not above him. They honestly shouldn't have called him the ultimate lifeform.
>>579698648I'd love to see Sonic and Amy do this in the canon
>>579701795The Ultimate Lifeform isn't a fucking powerscaler thing you actual god damn RETARD it's because Shadow was a project for humanity's ultimate dream IMMORTALITY.
>>579701623Knuckles is worth more than how they depict him, was probably the very first rival to sonic.>>579701707>sonic, you are the real ultimate lifeform
>>579701795>They honestly shouldn't have called him the ultimate lifeform.Why has this general been invaded by secondaries?
I need this E.T. looking little bitch to die in the most awful and painful way possible and if I ever see her again I will kill her myself.
Shadow isn't even the ultimate lifeform anyway. The true ultimate lifeform wouldn't need rocket boots.
>>579701890>He changed his mind later. he now thinks he is the real ultimate life form again
>I can't into my power fantasy if you make shadow lose onceShitdowfags are pathetic.
>>579701995>rocket bootsarchiefag
>one-shotted by Knuckles' daughter in one page.Any one notice how Ian seemed to up the Shadow humiliation every time it came to Knuckles?
>>579701996
>>579701272>>579701653The characters related to tanabata are barely even there for years, you have fatigue because of shippers and anti shippers arguing about it, not because of sonic team.
>>579701995They're air shoes.
>>579702062>OH NO THE VILLAIN IS DEFEATEDInteresting.
>>579702025>THEY'RE ICE SKATES
>>579702160I have a fatigue and everyone is why
>>579702249>deliberately changing shadow's expression to be wrong and lazy and tired and domesticated so his red eyes aren't as scawy
>>579701879I just think it gives readers unreasonable expectations for a story that's ultimately about Sonic Gary Stuing all over everyone.
>Ah, another day of raping your favorite edgelord>oh and would you look at that, shadow jobs against Dr. starline too!
>>579702337>>579701890See what I mean? Everyone exists to make Sonic look good.
>>579701701>Nintendo doesn't understand Mario because he still says wahoo and stomps goombasKys.
>>579701669While Iizuka is the ST leader, the characters won't change. This means no canon shipping in the games. But this also means the characters are to maintain what we already know about them, no Amy moving on, no Shadow moving on, Knuckles with the Master Emerald, etc.
maybe ian should change shadow into a crying lesbian. then he would finally win a fight.
IDW/Archiefags please...https://vocaroo.com/1k6f7x8cXjbSTalk about something new.
>>579698691In SA2 and Shadow 05, Shadow was plagued by an existential crisis. I'd love to see the franchise explore this and other dark themes again
>>579702482good? why is this a problem?
They want to do this very thing for a potential Shadow vs. Surge btw.
>>579702523I don't think the crying lesbians do anything but job either desu. Maybe the comic should be called Sonic and the Jobbers.
This place is so media illiterate it frankly disgusts me. You're not really any different from Twitter or Reddit. In fact you probably all have Reddit and Bluesky accounts. The fact that you cannot comprehend the themes or characters in this franchise for 12 year olds is not Sonic Team's fault, it's yours for being an autistic mentally retarded failure. You need to kill yourself btw.
>>579702523>he
>>579702651Nice points anon. Wait, you didn't make any. Fuck off Ian. Go worship Knuckles' cock.
>>579702418>everyone should exist to make MY CHARACTER (whose name is not on the franchise) look good instead>>579702456Mario is more consistent than sonic and serves a purpose, a flat ass character works better for something without a real canon.Sonic is a flat character whose attitude changes according to the writer's personal bad day.
>>579702482>While Iizuka is the ST leader, the characters won't change.Where the fuck have you been for the last decade?
>>579701561I personally don't mind Shadow losing. Most of the cast have beaten each other in a fight at this point (to the point many fights are inconclusive about who won specifically, like Rivals, Adventure 1, Heroes, etc). It's the contemptible ease by which Knuckles beats Shadow that's my problem with the sequence:>>579700959>>579701113>>579701257
>>579702651Sonicfags have always been media illiterate even before the gen-Zoo's came along.Agreed, especially when everyone here keeps denying they're brown.
>>579701785>>>>>>>>>jap defender
>>579702591Good taste. I want to do this very thing too.
>>579702765>I personally don't mind Shadow losing.You should. It risks reducing him to a jobber trotted out to make people look better.
>>579702482Movie 4 is going to put a lot of pressure on Iizuka to let Sonic and Amy become a couple in the games and if he refuse, the fans' backlash will be massive
>>579702765Why knuckles should be weak if he's unironically a power type that can give speedsters a hard time? I would expect at least some physical strenght. What a bad ass vision i don't get, even in the movie shadow stops a punch from knuckles and breaks his arm.
>>579702921meds and bed
>>579702921I think you're going to be disappointed, both in Iizuka (who you should ALWAYS be disappointed in) and in the movie.
>>579702740I just think they should be more consistent. At least Ian doesn't hate the other characters I like. Ironically, I like Knuckles as well. But seeing him easily beat Shadow just looks stupid.
>>579702582Iizuka's decision is not a problem. I was just answering that anon.>>579702741I'm talking about games.I know the lore team will keep pushing for changes, trying to sneak things in and inserting their headcanon into things.>>579702921I don't think Iizuka will change his instance.
>>579703151>I'm talking about games.So am I, motherfucker.
>>579703042The movies aren't canon anon. And Knuckles was being cocky. The cocky character always loses while they're being cocky.
Gentlewomen which you are ... talk about something else other than Archieshit. Maybe the actual Archie comic if you don't want to talk about Sonic anymore.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zmcEuocbSMAPH0Cdu0neR7qOYrOad6dB_PXEnPRM24Y/edit?tab=t.0
>>579703240>The cocky character always loses while they're being cockyHow come Sonic always wins?
>and if you always lose you're a jobber>and if you always win you're a gary stuJust admit we can't into edgy characters, they're hard to write because you wnat them to be cool always BUT ALSO believable at the same time.
>>579703240But Sonic's whole thing is being cocky and he usually wins with style as a result.
Going to make a thread on page 9 featuring a certain green and blue couple. If you want something else, you've got until then to make it.
>>579703286Women don't even really like archie.>>579703303''Cocky'' isn't the word i'd use for sonic he's moreso confident.
>>579701561>gary stu.stop misusing this term
>>579703303>>579703309Because he's the main character. The entire point of the story is Sonic.
>>579703460>Women don't even really like archie.No one does.
>>579703304>>579703303Just admit you suck at writing cause you're dumb.
>>579703460Women like Scourge from Archie.
>>579701995>rocket boots.Ian...
>>579703604>>579703509Even a few japanese fujos i've seen on pixiv drew scourge. one character getting popular because of tropes is different from them actually caring about the whole comic or reading them all.
>>579702482>no Amy moving on,Why do you people treat this as some expected thing for her to do that would in any way be a good thing?
*yawwwn* Call me when the larping stops>>579656604
>>579703834You'll never be called.
>>579703516Projection
Only west faggots hate Forces
>>579703931Brown.
>>579704004fag
>>579703180Anon, what I am saying is that Iizuka doesn't desire change as ST leader. The push for change will come from other people, but you won't see these kinds of things explicit on games, like, you won't see some cutscene that is about how Amy doesn't need to chase Sonic anymore. You get what I mean?
>>579703995probably true. because only westies bought forces. easties outside sega's hq have no idea it exists
/sthg/ is Twitter and Reddit for people too gutless to attach a real name to the garbage they post. You probably keep Bluesky tabs open like a junkie, refreshing for validation from people even more broken and theatrical than you. Half of you will see someone discussing how Japanese writers handle theme or character on a site dedicated to anime and manga, owned by a Japanese person, and immediately start seizing. The fact that you cannot grasp the basic emotional and thematic machinery of a franchise aimed at twelve-year-olds is not Sonic Team’s failure. It is yours.You're an autistic, chronically online retard who treats every story like a checklist of memeable one-liners and goonable moments, then you throw a tantrum when the writing refuses to bend over and service your brainrot. Deeper themes especially short-circuit you because you are so shallow you cannot relate to the emotional range of a mentally healthy literate adult. 'Durr why Shadow care about dead person?" Your feelings for anything evaporate the moment it leaves your immediate line of sight, like a goldfish or a particularly stupid dog. You are an animal.You keep begging for another SA2-tier plot while the original went clean over your head the first time. Nobody with a functioning frontal lobe should waste real effort crafting a coherent story for you, because you are constitutionally incapable of appreciating anything past the surface layer. You are too lazy and too retarded. You skim the cutscenes, meme the memes, invent an entirely different narrative in your head, then declare the official one "shit" and accuse the writers of misunderstanding their own work. Just shut your brain off permanently. Never think about anything for more than a few seconds. The mere existence of people who can actually read and feel is an insult to you, because it forces you to confront the fact that you are inferior to the literate.
fugbug
Storyfaggotry was a mistake
Kill That Bitch edition.>>>/v/746763709>>>/v/746763709>>>/v/746763709
fucking retard ^
>>579704561>Archiefags can't even get the board rightChecks out.
>>579704585*PUNCH* coward. Say it to my face in real life and see what happens, I dare you.
Tails sisters...https://mega.nz/folder/IRw0RB7L#AHpjwd6KwrZC2Yfqy4cqgg/folder/ABpzTQBB
Nice Trojan.
>>579704310I remember being the first guy to post lengthy rants with this this triangle wisp image attached
>>579704684As if i'm touching that shiet nigga.
Well time to make a sthg thread without Archie.>>579704801>>579704801>>579704801
>>579704878Yeah fine i'm in.
>>579700487How embarassing...
>>579704737Legend
