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World of Warcraft Classic General

Servers discussed:
>Classic ERA
>Classic Hardcore

FAQ:
>Is classic+ happening?
No, datamining revealed that "camelot" is a seasonal retail server with shop mounts, deluxe pre order packages and not worth paying attention to.

>What version should I play?
Classic ERA is permanent vanilla with no resets or seasons, it is the recommended version for most people.

>What about Hardcore?
Hardcore is great, if your character dies there, you can move it to ERA and continue playing there.

>Which Faction should I pick?
Both are great, the population is split around 60/40 in favor of the Alliance.

Tools and resources:
>Talent calculator https://classicdb.ch/?talent
>look up quests and items: https://www.wowhead.com/classic
>weakauras: https://wago.io/
>Addon client: https://www.curseforge.com/download/app

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Soon you will see buck broken blizzdrones pre order the deluxe hero ultimate Camelot package, ride their shop mount while playing a sky elf death knight typing "classic+ hype" in world chat as they are riding to Orgrimmar to sell a wow token.
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<Classic ERA PvE Cluster>

>no bots
>no GDKP
>no boost spam
>no shitskins
>no gold sellers
>no streamer grifters
>no level 60 ganking level 20s
>no 3 rogues killing you after unbooning in main city
>helpful and mature community
>can still play BGs with Ranjeet and Pablo
>all guilds use SR or other fair systems
>normal economy due to no bots and no shitskin farmers


Your excuse for not joining up?
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Ready to apologize?
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>>579680030
Time traveler or disgruntled insider?
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>>579679691
I'll be joining after camelot announcement shows that its shit
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oh yeah
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>>579679691
waiting to see what happens with retail - first
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we are here

https://www.twitch.tv/letsgua
https://www.twitch.tv/letsgua
https://www.twitch.tv/letsgua
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here's your wow2: camelot.
>>>/v/746744626
>>>/v/746744690
>>>/v/746744938
>>>/v/746745232
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>>579682739
And I thought I was a g for playing 4 RO clients at once
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im gonna make a pally on era
any tips and tricks?
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>>579682739
>You received a Gift Sub from bklynmark

thank you, Mark.
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>>579682739
qrd?
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>>579683448
>attack mob
>alt tab out
>wait till you hear mob is dead
>tab back in

pally is amazing if u just wanna chill
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>>579683768
the man keeping mankrik alive
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>>579683859
Yeah apparently, seems to be doing 50 things at once.
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>>579683709
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>>579683768
>plays 9 accounts at the same time
>clearing dmt while raiding on other acc
>summoning the whole server to dmt for free
>logs to other 20 warlocks
>summons whole server for heart buff
>organizing 7 raids at the same time while trading free mounts and bags to low levels and manipulating the auction house
>all just 1 chinese guy
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>>579683983
I thought these posts were kidding but apparently not, based? I mean damn, I wish I was into something this much
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>>579683983
also runs a guild while multi box enchanting everyones gear for free in stormwind
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>>579683983
>doesnt do gdkp and distributes all sellables to the raid which are always pugs
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>>579682739
wtf?
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Get the fuck in SW on Whitemane rn. Horde kited an unkillable world boss who just yeeted like 50 ppl
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>>579683983
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>>579683983
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>>579684490
he despawned, but you can see all the bodies
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>>579682739
>Chinese bilibili cooking videos on break
wtf my Xiaomi phone automatically bookmarked the stream and changed my ringtone to red sun in the sky
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>>579679691
nice try thirdie, here's my excuse
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>>579684550
is it even legal to spend all of that money on an american service how does he do it
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>>579685152
yikes and to think pservers fixed boosting
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>>579685152
Not my problem, I raid with letsgua where there's no gdkp, no HR and even boes and mats are given out to the raid to help them make money.

#letsgua
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>>579685470
since he's playing on NA, streaming on twitch in English I would assume he lives in America. Probably working in the IT sector in California making 250k/year spending the money on his cat and the 9 accounts that he plays.
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>>579685776
Absolute kino.
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>>579685470
It looks like he's in NA, if anything he still farms social credits for continuing to watch bilibili videos and also improving the optics of chinese people in western video games with his generosity.
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>TBC
shit
>WOTLK
kino but shit
classic or bust for me
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>>579686063
what about scata?
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>>579686229
not much of a retail fan, sorry
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>>579685639
Stop posting bugs
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>>579679497
Dont forget the autistic retdil rotations theyll have on their bars
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>>579686063
I honestly don't know if I'd play wotlk anni

There were a lot of things I liked about wotlk but I felt it was the most raid-loggy of the Classic Trilogy and wrath arena wasn't really that fun.
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I have it on good authority that Camelot has 3 new classes
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>>579688391
>new gnome only class
>new tauren only class
>death knights
yep thats kino
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>>579688391
>dk
>monk
>dh
I guess to a cryboomer those are 'new'.
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>>579688686
They are slower, vanilla versions of those classes
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>>579688686
yeah id probably play it if they added demon hunters but theyll probably fuck up and make them way too strong or out of place
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>>579688534
>you unlock dks through a quest that ends with your character becoming the dk
>only warriors and paladins can do the quest
>you get a different mount for using a warrior or paladin
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>>579688815
Stop, I can only get so erect.
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imagine believing an executive looked at this chart and thought, "i agree, let's model C+ after the leftmost player demographic"

LMAOOOOO nillers are so delusional holy shit
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>>579688815
>Blizzard walks it back after one week because the forums are flooded with players with "death knight regret"
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>>579689470
They held their ground after banning GDKP, which is a point in their favor.
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>>579688686
nice. frost dk is my favorite class in wow history
monk and dh are trannymode but wcyd
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>>579689740
They also held their ground on disney pixar models and even removed the ability for you to use the old models. A company known for good choices
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>>579687875
wrath arena really was ass. everyone is a tank in wrath pvp
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How come getting air totem is so lackluster?
The other totems have chain quest while air is "go to this guy and get it"
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>>579689932
Only after toc or whatever. You blow shit up quick in wrath before giga cancer like baubles are out. Some cancerous specs are tankier I guess too
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>>579690032
because at that point niggas be tired of going on quests just to get shit everyone else goes to a trainer for
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>>579690032
the guy writing the shaman quests was probably sick for a few days so they had to abandon it
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>>579686063
i enjoy the way tbc lets me play the game instead of making me sit through hours of rp anytime i want to do a dungeon
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>>579692981
you get to play exactly 2 hours a week (raid logging)
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human hands and draenei tummies
is there a more noteworthy combination?
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>>579693574
i play 50 hours a week tho
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>>579693631
gnomish cock and troll ass
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I miss when wow subscription was too expensive for brown thirdies and we only had chinks and slavs thirdies.
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>>579694174
it wasnt even the sub cost they simply didnt have internet back then
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>>579694174
runescape costs as much as wow now and its more brown than ever
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>>579694174
stop buying gold from them so they can't afford the subscription?
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>>579694876
how will era thrive if theyre not buying gold?
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made a classic plus waiting room guild on Whitemane Alliance
<Classic Plus>
ask any member for an invite lol
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>>579694580
u can play it for free with the token though
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*gives your unique to 5 other better classes*
enjoy wrath, faggots. that is, if you even survive
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>>579696757
>keep playing warrior anyways because its still the most fun even if there might be hardship along the way
The White man marches on.
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>>579694174
100% this.
the subscription should be $40/mo or more.
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>>579696757
>remove all of your uniques
>gives you a shitty aoe in return
shadowpries tbros...
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>>579696757
rogue heal is retarded. i don't think i'll be playing wrath.
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>>579698567
i think that was cata
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>>579696984
this
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I never played shaman in Classic but wouldn't Windfury Totem + Rockbiter Weapon better than just having Windfury Weapon?
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>>579701757
windfury weapon is stronger than windfury totem
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>>579701757
They don't stack retard.
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>hit 32
>get chain lighting
i exploded in dungeon groups
will lvl dungeons for the next levels
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>>579705070
>out of mana after 1 cast
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>>579705181
just get int bruv
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>>579705181
just invite the mage for water
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>>579693574
>he doesn't raid on at least 4 different archetype classes melee/ranged/tank/heal
>he doesn't ethically farm his gold
>he doesn't enjoy arena or bg
>he doesn't enjoy the fun of world pvp
>he doesn't enjoy helping guildies through dungeons
>he doesn't enjoy bants in world or gchat

the game just isn't for you
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damn, guas bwl had rejuv gem, shadowflame staff, mishundre and chromatic all drop
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>>579706149
reminds me of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuaubxhbE70
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>>579704576
Windfury Totem and Rockbiter don't?
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whats the fastest way to farm some honor in teebeecee?
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>>579683983
based
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>>579706935
Weapon enhancements don't stack retard.
That includes any and all shaman imbues, poison, sharpening stones, wizard oil, frost oil
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>>579696757
>*laughs in DEMOBVLL*
sure is fun being the only well designed support class in the game's history
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>>579680030
and every new seasonal release brought less interest and revenue than the previous one.
This clash directly with Fact 2, the market cap for wow is way bigger than what it's current market share is
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Have we reached a point with ERA where people are comfortable making changes to it in order to improve the game? People accepted dual spec with zero outrage or crying so I think so?

I want:
>30 minute timer for WSG
>debuff & buff limit removed
>dungeon boosting removed
>talent revamp to buff useless specs like moonkin
>guild bank
>nerf naxx/aq40 gear
>re design molten core tier set bonuses
>buff dungeon gear slightly
>new dungeon
>profession updates for fishing and cooking
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dual spec is cancer
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>>579714986
Only thing they should add is annual scourge events and add things to the restore vendor so people can get back stuff to complete their characters like accidental vendored trinkets.
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>>579714986
Kul Tiran women looks like this?
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>>579689861
I'm talking about classic gdkp, not wod.
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>>579689470
>the forums are flooded with players with "death knight regret"
name one time something like this actually happened
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I have blizzard whining fatigue
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>>579714986
>People accepted dual spec with zero outrage or crying so I think so?
This was shit. I said it was shit at the time. I would however accepted it if you could only swap in cities, rather than whenever the fuck you wanted out in the world.
This shit is highly abuseable. Especially by rogues.
When you travel out into the world you should have already decided which spec you need to be to go out. It's shit that you can have your farming/raid and pvp spec ready to go.
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>>579714986
That's all in classic+ btw
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>>579718782
Same company
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>>579725005
Blizzard from 2014 isn't remotely the same
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>>579713198
>If you don't fill your brain with pointless trivia about a 30 year old videogame you're a "retard"
i don't have time to remember all that shit I gotta hit the gym and eat some raw eggs so my balls are ready to dump a steamy load inside the 10/10 Stacy later tonight
hey nerd can you tell me some useless trivia about what happened with Illidan before he was imprisoned? I was kinda wondering about that but I gotta go organize my rentals (I own hundreds of millions in property) and do some pushups real quick. I was wondering what's the deal with that guy when those guys boosted me the other day. Anyways, cya later nerd.
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what an embarrassing post
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you would have won if you didn't immediately seethe 5 mins later now it rings true
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>>579721626
Shadowlands covenants.
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>>579728871
Lmfao
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>>579730457
What? People hated those from the moment they were announced.
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>>579730758
The forums were flooded with people saying that they regretted picking specific covenants and hated how restrictive committing to a new one was, and Blizzard quickly bent the knee and made it much more forgiving.

The question isn't whether they were hated or not, it's about Blizzard buckling to pressure.
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>>579730975
The ripcord was promised from the beginning because everyone knew it'd be shit. I don't think it's blizzard buckling under pressure but acknowledging they made a shit system and needed to make changes.
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Tauren priests for classic plus please, epoch did it
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it's truly amazing how without fail every single ploos hope is worthless shite and would ruin the game
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>>579731253
i don't give a single shit what epoop did
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>>579731434
So fixing ret, shadow, and balance would ruin the game?
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>>579732341
as soon as you use specifics instead of
>SO YOU'RE SAYING making it BETTER would be BAD???
i will answer
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>>579732206
how did he throw up a baby fetus though
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>>579732471
Why would fixing ret, shadow, and balance ruin the game?
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>>579732524
fixing how you braindead nigger?
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I'm starting to lose cope about classique ploos. The devs truly won't and do not understand what made Vanilla and Classic such a lightning rod. No playable ogres. What's the fucking point?
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>>579732608
Bringing their dps up to bar with warrior, mage, warlock, and priest you obtuse retard
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>>579732810
HOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>579732810
Hunter*
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>>579732810
They need improvements, but they don't need to do more dps than warriors or mages.
They need a damage buff sure, but they need useful utility more, and in oomkins case, more longevity in fights
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>>579732917
Must I spoon feed you? By tweaking abilities and talents to do more damage. It's not hard to comprehend.
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>>579732206
this image is getting less and less pixels each time its posted
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>>579698760
you're right. both are retail so i lost track.
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>>579733043
I'm not saying more, I just want parity.
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>>579705814
>a 24 hour slave to WoW
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>>579733125
They shouldn't have parity though.
Talking for druids specifically.
Feral needs to be freed from the MCP, maybe give bears lacerate too. Cats need to be freed from powershifting with the cuck wolf hat. Buff damage a bit to compensate for losing those "exploits"
Moonkin needs a mana longer pool, it needs insect swarm castable and it needs its aura to be justifiable to bring to a raid. Maybe give it a good fairy fire talent at least so its got something, maybe a better thorns talent. Tweak the balance tree so every talent isn't sucking 5 points to do jack fucking shit just to unlock the fun but shit stuff later.
Druids just shouldn't be pushing past mages and warriors/rogues for damage though. Hybrid tax is justifiable, but they taxed them way too hard.
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druid should be a class that uses all forms in every spec
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>>579733806
Oh and most importantly. Fix the god awful druid itemization for any spec but resto.
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>>579733806
I never said pushing the hybrid classes past them. You have good suggestions, and all I want on top of that is parity. All dps specs should have roughly similar damage. They can be a little off, but balance doing around 40 percent of a warriors damage needs to end.
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>>579734584
Ok, but you can't use the word parity to describe that.
You want viability which is fine. Parity on damage makes the class to good as a whole.
Warriors and mages are too strong too if you ask me, but I wouldn't nerf them into parity with hybrids on dps
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>>579734730
Why can't I? For some reason you think parity means hybrids are doing more damage than warriors. I never wanted that.
I agree warriors and mages are too strong. They should be a factor lower in damage.
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>>579735170
No, it means they are doing the SAME damage.
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>>579735254
Yes, that's what I've been saying the whole time.
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>class with zero cc and flavour should also do the same damage as everyone else
i'm so glad nobody here has any control over anything irl
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>>579735493
shut the fuck up brown
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>>579735493
>implying anyone at blizzard knows what they're doing
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>>579735389
And thats a bad idea. Hybrid classes have more utility (ignoring how bullshit mage is for a moment). If they do the same damage the dps classes become obsolete (outside of 1 raid slot for a class specific debuff). Which is exactly the state druids are in now.
They should be in the same ballpark for damage, but not the same. Imagine trying to pvp a druid that hits as hard as a warrior but can also heal and kite
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>>579735567
just heal with your fursona tranny
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>>579735693
I play priest though.
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>>579735612
never implied that for a second bud
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>>579735634
Okay, so let's agree that Balance druid does about 40 percent of a warrior's damage right now. If we increase that to around 80-85 percent of a warrior's damage, would that satisfy you?
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>>579735912
I wouldn't compare moonkin to warrior specifically. But approximately something like that yeah.
I'm not expert enough to know exactly how much the hybrid tax should be, just that as it is in vanilla aint it
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>>579736035
I'm a boomie so that's what I'm most interested in, lol. While I would rather have all damage specs have rough parity, increasing my damage by 45 percent while fixing mana would be enough for me.
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>>579736238
Melee dps should be higher than caster. More risk, more dps.
You should compare oomkin to mage and lock.
The hunter problem is something else too as the designated shitter or the pure dps classes (in raids). Thats primarily a scaling issue though on their abilities
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Camelot status?
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>>579736468
Cancelled. Assets will be reused for the upcomming phone mmo World of Warcraft Immortal
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>>579736393
I can get behind that. I'm just sick of playing my class excellently (I was a high blue and sometimes purple parse in Naxx as a boomie) and being at the bottom of the dps chart while having no mana for a decent portion of it. I want to play the game and not get punished for it because of my spec.
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>>579736562
We have phones so it's fine.
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>>579736702
Frankly imo Balance druids should be buffed a but damage and mana efficiency wise, but I;d rather the primary buffs in the tree coming from better raid utility. A good improved fairy fire talent would be enough to justify 1 boomie per raid at least. Maybe give the moonkin aura bonus mana regen too or something. But the talents like Vengeance taking 5 points when other classes get 100% crit for 1 is heinous. And thats with having to dump 5 points into 10% moonfire crit too. Like wtf is that?
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>>579736702
Is that really considered playing your class well? My guild wasn't even that hardcore in classic and we were still hitting 98 and 99 parses
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>>579736393
>Melee dps should be higher than caster. More risk, more dps.
That depends entirely on the mechanics of the fight, range DPS also have much lower health pools and no armour so there's innately more risk there
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Which female lore character has the stinkiest farts?
Gotta be Sylvannas
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>>579737123
make innervate a spell power damage and or crit chance buff for the druid and one target ontop of its mana regen for the boomkin
parsetroons would be stackin them chickens
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>>579737995
Melee are at more risk than ranged in like 90%+ fights man
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>>579737801
I freely admit I'm not the most amazing player. I'm probably like a 7-7.5ish out of ten when it comes to how well I play my chosen class.
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>>579737123
If we're digging down into the nitty gritty, running of mana is the worst part. Just let me participate the entire fight and I'll be happier. Not satisfied as I still think the hybrids should be roughly-and I do mean roughly-the same as the other classes, but whatever. SOD boomie was great so I'm not really worried.
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>wod classic rewards datamined
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I refuse to be hyped for a classic+ because I know blizzard will screw over my region regardless.
Either there'll be no OCE servers, or they'll cave at the very last minute and create a pity server after most people have already committed to another server or given up wanting to play.
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>>579743849
go sniff petrol
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>>579743913
If I can do it with sub 200 ping then I'll sniff it
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How is Xaryu allowed to just repost other peoples' videos and monetize it? Crazy
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>>579745351
hes a gypsy
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>>579745351
Occasionally saying "yup" over someone else's narration
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>>579745351
>Not having that grifting shitskin blocked
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>>579745351
he did epic badass hardcore challenges which were all variations of warrior but no chest armor/staffs only/etc
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>>579745497
That's not true. Sometimes he also says "oof", and "I don't think so". There's a lot of variety.
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>>579745351
He's just the swarthy a********
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all classic streamers pivot to stealing content to react to because they get bored of mob grinding
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Kargoz is likely to shoot up Blizzcon by the way.
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>namedropping randoms like we're just supposed to know who they are
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what is blvd cooking?
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>>579747191
He probably should stop cooking so much, dude's kinda fat
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https://www.twitch.tv/swifty
https://www.twitch.tv/swifty
https://www.twitch.tv/swifty

actual bros are here btw
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>>579747683
>tatted up whore
y*ck
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>>579747683
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>>579747683
holy AIDS
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>>579743849
sadeg can't believe this happened to us on anni servers
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>>579748450
Then they moved the pity server onto us servers without even telling anybody after they had already set it up to fail.
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>>579745497
>>579746031
I'm in here (with an adblocker though) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyVrCDaAvEM and he keeps saying "true" actually
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ALEXENSUAL RUNS THESE GENERALS
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One of the most subhuman things that I see on TBC and Era is people putting two names as their character name. Like "Johnsmith."
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>>579749952
He'll agree with 95% on any video, then quibble over some minor detail or argument just to show he's a man with his own opinion.
True
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>>579749952
it baffles me how you guys don't have this obvious grifter blocked
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>>579749960
...into a level 17 hunter
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>>579745351
they dont call him the brown asmon for nothin
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>>579750470
He's pleasant to listen to and he has actual knowledge. He just won't go beyond skin deep because he's terrified of losing his blizzard sponsorship. He's okay as background noise.
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>>579750159
This bothers me and also doing shit like using Scottish sounding names on a non-Dwarf. Imagine calling yourself Braveheart and not being a Dwarf.
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>>579749960
He doesn't run shit. When's the next arc?
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>>579749952
Did this shitskin even play Nost or LH?
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My good friend Xaryu would dogwalk anyone here and then post it as a yt short and WE'd be like "yo who taught my man how to duel :laughingemoji:"
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>>579750959
No, he's a good Christian boy who played retail and has many rank 1 pvp titles before he played classic LEGALLY and LEGITIMATELY.
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>>579750683
William Wallace was tall as fuck
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>>579750959
of course not, all these grifters think private servers have viruses or some shit
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>>579750159
why?
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>>579747191
sod 2 so people can keep kicking the classic plus can down the road
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our guys
>asmon
>xaryu
>tyler1
>pilav
>mitch jones
>pikabooirl

reddit
>sodapoppin
>every streamer who plays ret paladin
>azamous
>nohitjerome
>wille
>guzu
>gbay99
>ahmpy
>pretty much everyone else

formerly our guys
>alexsensual (he got neurotic, randomly deleted everything good he ever made, and quit being our guy)
>nohitjerome (pre-quitting the drugs)
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>>579750682
hes a jeet mutt and has an annoying screechy voice and yells anytime anything happens
how tf is that pleasant
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my guy is formerly method josh
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>>579747191
fuck this guy wheres the big nosed platinum blonde from the first sod video
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>nanedropping people like we're just supposed to know who they are
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>>579751764
oh true I forgot him
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>>579751893
i think she's a camwhore or was
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As opposed to namedropping 5 tittystreamers a thread and saying "we're in here" like we're supposed to know who they are
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>>579751656
I'm not looking at his face, I'm listening to him on my phone as I work. I don't find that he screeches or yells annoyingly, but ymmv.
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>>579752269
>implying im some loser who watchers internet prostitutes
you insult me
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>>579752252
haha what if you knew their handle wouldnt that be weird haha
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>their
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>>579752590
obsessed
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Do you mean Blizzard Employee and Community Manager Bethany "Liinxy" Hudson (formerly Bethany Stout, she got married shortly after SoD released)?
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>>579753125
>how do you do fellow wow players
did they really think anyone bought this? isnt she an onlyfans whore too or something?
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>>579753745
idk maybe she scrubbed it (she is married now, after all) I can't find anything
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also I should add that she is literally the phenotype blizzard is marking towards with retail player housing.
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10 plus players can destroy 10.000 ERA players and 10 million Hardcore players and 10 billion moppies
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who's in the wrong? he's a night elf druid, i'm a dwarf rogue
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A single 3.5k M+ rated retail player could destroy a googolplex era players
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>>579754525
both absolute faggots
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>>579754525
dwarf rogue is always right
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>>579754525
both sound like spergs desu
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disney
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>>579754525
>chudson
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>>579754525
You both sound retarded
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>>579754634
>>579754715
>>579754931
well now look what you made me do
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>>579754525
CHVDSON WON BIGLY
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>>579755120
pve cluster fixes this.
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>>579755120
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>>579755341
>>579755120

how did you kill him in HC?
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Letsgua stream waiting room.
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i just wanna call into work and level my shaman
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>>579755504
not HC, just era
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>>579755120
Do it again
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we are here

https://www.twitch.tv/einbaum
https://www.twitch.tv/einbaum
https://www.twitch.tv/einbaum
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why did shobek betray us?
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>>579755867
nah I'm a gua missile
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>>579755817
i made him log off
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>>579756059
our king gua is not live yet
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>>579756103
Lmao
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>>579756123
he's in the same level bracket as my dwarf, so any time i see him i'm just going to switch over and camp him. he will have to make a new character.
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>>579756362
So unnecessarily petty. I love it.
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>>579756496
i posted a couple of threads ago, he was being a cunt in dun morogh, tagging every single mob in a level 10 cave as a level 15 bear tank, then looked at me and said "u mad bro?"
he made an enemy
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>>579756362
i thought that level of camp was reportable or did they backpedal on that
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>>579756619
poetic justice
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Can a census really save Ploos?
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>>579756649
>leftoids making empty promises
also good luck enforcing that
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>>579755867
>g*rman
>brown
>AI addict
>playing a noshoes
kek avg germoid
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>donated silk to every faction
>still carry 7 stacks around
what am i supposed to do with this stuff?
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>>579757151
first aid
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a census cant even define plus, let alone save it
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>>579757201
im already 248
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>>579757205
why should it? good games are made by kings, not committees.
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I just want to see how antiTurtie chvds will react when Ploos is mostly copypaste Turtie. The mental gymnastic will be funny to observe
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>>579758057
its always been known that its just chinkforged chynawrathcopypasted over with shop mounts and a deluxe package+token.
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>>579758057
Chill out shenna
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>>579758057
we just don't want some gay russian fanfic. if blizzard does it, it means it's canon
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>>579755867
Its insane how passive the alliance is, why even have a guild/roll on a pvp serv at this point
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>>579759792
yeah, they're the type who wouldn't stop the rapist if their grandma was gettin raped
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>>579759792
Lolliance is mostly made up of women and left wing "men".
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>blizz added another 5 million gold mount to pootoilet
man they must be desperate
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>>579759792
What do you want them to do? Try to kill some lvl 60 german loser on a roof with their lvl 20 chars or something? I hate to tell you man but horde is equally as passive when you camp them lol, just the game is set up in a manner where it's way easier to grief alliance chars due to more contested leveling areas.
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Blizzard should bring back whoever made The Missing Diplomat quest chain. Absolute kino.
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>>579760526
if I'm corpsecamped on a lowbie and I ask my guild for help they help
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>>579760750
Yeah I guess you could, and the dude got killed by a few people a bit ago too so isn't that exactly what happened?
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Are they going to revert the woke name changes they did, after it was revealed that the Cosby Suite, breastmilk drinking and sexual harassment was a hoax made by a kike on Microsoft's payroll?
Frasiabi needs to be put back in the game.
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>>579760995
Right after they revert the OW name changes
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>>579760891
Got off his stream cuz genuine zzz material but damn finally
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>>579761104
I don't know of a single person that doesn't call him McRee
Although I don't know anyone who plays Overwatch in 2026
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>>579761196
Yeah that's the funny part, they changed it but nobody cared. I wonder if those OW eatsports casters have to call him by his new name whatever the hell it was. Or maybe OW e-sports is dead too by now
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>>579761307
I guarantee Blizzard is losing money keeping Overwatch eSports alive, solely to own the chuds and milk their paypigs
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>>579761196
his name is McCree
>>579761307
>>579763297
it's spelled esports and blizz is not keeping it alive. the overwatch league is over.
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>>579763705
I know. I said I don't know of a single person that doesn't call him McRee, and I stand by that.
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>>579763705
t. tranny blizzard expert
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This is one of the oldest structures in the game. Of course, it's the most kino.
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https://youtu.be/8LKtYvlOBCo
This nigga straight up reading chatgpt leaks now
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>>579751592
>saw someone unironically post that this may not be classic+ but its gonna be yet another testing water for classic+
The cope is already commencing.
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>>579758143
Already confirmed by Ion they aren't bringing over titanforged servers.
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>horde
>ganking dwarves
proof that subhuman niggers have infiltrated the horde
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>>579767490
bro they don't wear shoes, live in mudhuts and you claim they were ever based
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>>579766093
>29 years old
>already bald
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>>579757094
any proof he's a brownoid subhuman? will stop watching if so
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>>579766608
nillers will spend the rest of their lives wish casting a version of wow that makes them feel 9 again
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>>579767664
he streams with a webcam sometimes but his face is hidden. he doesnt look brown. he does post in wristwatch and car subreddits tho he could be one of those white passing balkans
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ret paladins will dominate classic plus
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>>579772191
sure, José
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>>579772191
prot paladin
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>>579772263
The new 31 talent for prot pallies will be throwing axe proficiency
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Ploos needs body sliders
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>>579773545
true dood, true
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>>579772191
thanks esfand
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>1fp
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>>579767591
while i am an alliance loyalist, the horde used to be THE chud faction. then the leftoids infiltrated and never left. so now the horde are just unbased niggers.
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how is there still a week before classic+ wtf
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>>579679480
What class can I roll if I want to rule the battlegrounds? I have two friends I'm going to play together with, and they're willing to roll anything, so basically two pocket-healers, or one pocket-healer and one dps.
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>server called Whitemane
>85% of the population are brown thirdies
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>>579767591
Only trolls don't wear shoes.
We don't talk about that.
Tauren have HOOVES. Bigger hooves than Draenei. You can't top that.
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>>579775503
If you have a pocket healer then warrior is the easy choice.
Warlock if you wanna caster.
Rogue if you are an asshole
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>>579775685
>rogue
>rule the battlegrounds
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>>579775815
Depends on the battleground and what your exact definition of ruling a battleground is.
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>>579775503
Mage hands down. You can often 1vs2 or 1vs3 and if things get bad you can easily run away to your team.
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>>579776052
you can also get global'd by a marksman hunter
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>>579776876
Much easier to LOS hunters in bg than open world. Most of them are retarded and are busy getting rawdogged by melees in the middle.
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>>579777301
in the WSG bases, maybe. AB and AV have less LOS potential than the open world.
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>>579777494
AV is pve. AB if you fight near the bases hunters cant touch you. One frost nova and they're sitting ducks.
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>read that wod was datamined
>look up my classic changes in wod
>eternal flame/word of glory has a cast time now
>light of dawn has a cast time now
>divine plea gone
not looking good, to be honest
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>>579777771
OG AV was pvp, for 3 days straight. I miss it
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>>579777771
>AV is pve.
ah you're one of those people that whines their head off when I recap SHGY/IBGY and forces a 3 hour turtle
seethe you little niglet
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>>579777994
Double beacon is nice, tho
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>>579778123
I loved doing that. At least it gave me a crumb of how av was originally intended to be.
Fuck the rep grinders, I just want a big cool battle where we get to summon the big elemental
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sneedvun? that nigga has been on my mind no cap
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>>579778123
Yeah even when it happens everyone just spam aoe and die not much PvP I'd call it and hunters would be the least of your worry.
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>>579777994
would be so kino if blizzard left everyone on wod era
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Reminder the unc meme is feminist propaganda to combat age gap relationships. If you call oss nillas that you're literally a brainwashed beta male simp cuck.
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>>579779076
seems retarded to do wod and not legion
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>>579779592
yeah im sure the player retention in wod will warrant 1 more xpac
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What's the main new and safest server now? I want to play vanilla WoW

>>579779525
unc meme is just silly zoomer meme talk, LVM is the term you're thinking of.
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>>579779753
they should get enough money from boosts/heroic editions at launch to justify it
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>>579779929
>unc getting prime pussies
>LMV
Yeah youre a simp/roastoid.
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>>579779929
Whiteman(e)
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>>579779592
Going in order is better, yeah?
plus legion remix wasn't too long ago I feel like it would be too soon right now, at least another year or two and you don't want to drop a big popular expansion when GTA VI is just about to release and absolute dominate attention spans and all social media for literally 2 years straight.
GTA VI online mode is going to practically pull in everyone for awhile
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>>579780247
and was legion remix a success..?
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>>579780154
yes I have vagoo

>>579780205
Is that a pserver or official? I don't like the communities on official servers sadly even though I use to prefer officials only.
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>>579780398
I think so? I don't pay attention to numbers but remix always functions way differently than normally playing through the expac so I could just be dead wrong and releasing it early would make a ton of dosh for blizzard, who knows honestly.

I think a ton of people played it to get fomo stuff they missed out on though.
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>get the itch for wowa
>install the game, setup addons & ui
>collect murloc cocks and wolf balls for 5 minutes with a 1 button auto attack rotation
>this game is so bad and boring how does anyone play it?
>uninstall dog shit game and submit battle.net data protection request to delete the account
>return 2-3 days later
>repeat from step 1

what causes this?
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>>579780432
Are you a healer or retri pala? Play tbc anniversary and do 2v2 with my big orc cock warrior.
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>>579780771
I play whatever lately I've wanted to play a orc male shaman cause they look cool
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>>579780247
im sorry i dont know what legion remix is.
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>>579781136
a bastardized version of the expansion for soccer moms to collect mount reskins and transmog recolors
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>>579781136
It's a dumb mode in retail where you basically have accelerated leveling to that expansions lvl cap while also gaining absurd amounts of player power and a lot of old rewards that were removed come back like old fomo mage tower skins, mounts etc
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>>579781358
>>579781403
sounds awful. let's hope we get the real legion expansion again sometime in the future
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New Classic Plus survey went out, you know where
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>>579772191
isnt that the whole point? otherwise youd just play expansions where they fixed meme specs
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>>579782007
to all the ugly lame streamers? Y A W N booooring
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https://www.icy-veins.com/wow-classic/news/warcraft-forever-this-name-is-suddenly-everywhere/

It's happening.
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What's the strat that guarntees an alliance win in AV? Sending 30 to cap/defend IBGY, while 10 recap SHGY and slowly wipe the northern horde?
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>>579783093
I just don't trust nu blizzard, these devs are mentally retarded and full of pozz mind virus mixed with microslop pure greed and they knell to faggot loser streamers.
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>>579783545
You will play it regardless
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>>579783093
warcraft forever sounds pozzed
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>>579784019
no, I haven't touched official servers for 4 years now.
I use to write off private servers but playing them and having what we use to have on official long ago got me hooked but thankfully I play them casual, I only did 20-29 BGs on turtle and I never touched ascension so I didn't lose much time but it sucks both were killed.
Blizzard knows if a non botted and non corrupt environment server sticks around people will prefer it over cheater bot streamer booster wonderland officials.
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Will kungen kryboomer be playing classic plus?
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>>579784539
he played sodomy like a good little paypiggy
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>>579784385
normalfags fear private servers
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>>579752501
Bethany Stout Blizzard
youre welcome
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk35MASVVUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk35MASVVUU

parasocial bros get in here
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>>579785358
good the "normal" fags who play on official today are the worse type of people ever
unironically most of the population on Pservers are pretty kino even most of the russians and thirdworld spanish were alright they just wanted to relive original vanilla and enjoy the journey.
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>>579767660
29?? you fat americans need to be culled. this is disgusting. why are most of the "white" content creators fat.
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>>579775659
>all 5'7 and guzu 5'9
this shit is so funny
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>>579767660
wew his voice lol and thats 29?! he looks 48 not trying to be mean but thats a really really rough 29
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>>579775659
>the 5 low value men of the azeroth apocalypse
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>>579766093
That's a rough hairline at 29
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so much leaks omg
>>
ok, what the fuck is going on?
starcraft website is acting up. there's clearly a big starcraft announcement at blizzcon.
https://www.starcraft.com

are there any other oddities occuring?
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>>579786961
its being sold to chyna
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>>579787025
China isn't real bro wtf are you talking about?
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>>579786961
does anyone seriously care about startcraft thoughbeit?
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>>579786961

it looks fine on my machine?
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>>579786961
the /vm/ leak was real >>>/vm/2874177
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>>579787094
we've been waiting for almost 30 years for sc:ghost.
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Warcraft Forever is the Plus name
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>>579787907
Yea and it's nilla ploooos forever, no flying toilets or disney pixar
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asmon's stream intro today:
>chatter: are you excited for blizzcon?
>asmon: I'm very excited for blizzcon. very very very excited for blizzcon. my expectations, let's be real, these are the same people that made dragonflight, but I still want to be optimistic for a new game
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>>579788368
who?
>>
need a sneedvun status
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>>579788368
I don't give a fuck about some nazi roach
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>>579754525
This just reminded me on epoch launch I got a silverleaf that was near a guy and he kept whispering me for days saying it was his silverleaf just because he was closer
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>>579788368
>kike shill says
didn't asked thoughbelt
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>>579780432
official era
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>>579780630
Why do you care about a "rotation"? It's a retarded thing to have. It's not needed.
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>>579788563
>>579788628
I'm confused.
>>
RP event on Whitemane
Dwarven District empty guild hall
Come crash it
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>>579789059
in 20 min
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>>579789056
I bet you are
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>>579788578
We were both in Mulgore and we were running towards a silverleaf. But in order to get there before me he had to go in a straight line even though there was a wolf in his path. So he aggro the wolf and I pick the silverleaf. Then he had a melty for days whispering me about this silverleaf. I don't think the silverleaf was closer to him because he should have to go around the wolf to get it. And also Idgaf it's just a silverleaf. But technically speaking I literally dindu nuffin.
>>
you could make a darkest dungeon clone with wow classes and dungeons and enemies and trinkets and provisions and loot
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>>579789357
you could do a lot of things with warcraft. the problem is they lock it all behind the shitty mmo.
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>>579788368
Why would I care about what some jewish rat face looking ass dude living with roaches thinks? Gimme towelliiee's take on this shit or gtfo bitch
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do the green hill pages have the same drop chance?
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i walked into the kurzen compound with page 25, 26 and the thought of finally farming the one page i still needed to complete all chapters; page 27.
THREE AND A HALF HOURS AGO
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where is Alexensual when the galaxy needs him????????????
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>>579791074
He was last spotted in the Australian wilderness
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>>579766093
blud needs to leak some shaving cream on his head and wipe it off with a razor
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>>579788368
asmon is in. bizzard went chud??
classic+ goty
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>>579791218
lmao
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>>579788368
kinda ironic since dragonflight was a pretty good expansion. thats why the only criticism people have of it are gay npcs and dracthyr but nothing about the actual gameplay
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>>579791859
was there a quest line about playing matchmaker for 2 gay NPCs prior to dragonflight?
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>>579791859
it was awful but for some reason a ton of retards with bad taste liked it
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>>579792204
>>579792220
just proving my point desu
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>>579792502
so basically you're a retard with bad taste? well thats both of our points proven

the gameplay was shit but retail has had shit gameplay since TBC, WoW has been the casual retard mmorpg for decades now.
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>>579792695
>it was bad because...it just was!
compelling argument. also news flash wow has always been the casual retard mmo ever since nilla
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>>579791859
dracthyr and evoker have a lot potential tbqh the concepts are good
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>>579793098
No they don't, they don't even look like they're from wow, maybe some furaffinity or scaley fetish game
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>>579792815
hey you enjoy shit that's on you little lad, there's a reason vanilla had 10 mil subs and dragonflight barely pushed a mil
majority of the old players don't like shit but you're part of the 1 million who love shit, no need to seethe about it if you like shit just be (You)rself, little lad.
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>>579793215
yea, but i said the concept is good not how it is
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>>579793426
Alright fair I guess, maybe you right
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>>579793337
>Blizzard officially stopped reporting exact subscriber counts in late 2015 during the Warlords of Draenor expansion.
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>>579793337
we have no idea what the current wow subs are but they are way over 1 mil.
your best bet is to vibe code something that scrapes the data from trackers like raider.io to get an estimate of player count.
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>>579793834
>"way over 1 mil"
>queues literally die barely 3 weeks into a season since WoD
L M A O

like I said there's a reason vanilla had 10 mil and whatever the fuck you enjoy is DOA tier filled with corruption, losers, and horrible queue times for everything.
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>>579794154
a single retail server has half a million.
cope. seethe. dilate.
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>>579794419
I'm talking about original vanilla WoW which had 10 million, get owned mr tranny go play with your gay dragons and bad gameplay.
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>>579792204
>a quest line about playing matchmaker for 2 gay NPCs prior to dragonflight?

There was a quest to get a gift one guy's husband, there's a gift to reunite two gay frogs, and another to get two gay centaur together
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>>579794556
you asserted that there was less than 1 million subs, and that claim is easily disproven even without official numbers.
>>
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS THREAD
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>>579794646
yes dragonlight barely had 100k since your one of the few who loves gay dragons, embrace your gayness.
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>>579794419
>characters
There's no way any of those characters is an alt. Everyone just plays one character.
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>>579793337
>still no argument
you condemn yourself further with every word
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>they broke NPC positions
>she's sitting at the canal and talking to herself
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>>579793337
>>579794154
>10 mil subs
I like vanilla but come on you're just making shit up lmao
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>>579795390
my skitzo gf ...
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>>579795442
not really making anything he is just thinking of wotlk
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>>579795639
Now that i can believe. WOTLK was the most popular version of wow ever after all
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>>579795725
>thinking an expansion that comes out during WoW's peak has anything to do with its content
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>>579796449
she didnt say that
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>>746783982
If someone from Everquest here, do tell what she did please.
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>>579697750
IDK man, you can be the best shadow priest in the world and still get treated like garbage despite bringing "unique" shit.
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>>579794886
what's your point? there's one player per server?
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>>579714986
All I want is fucking yearly scourge invasions.
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>>579795442
sub count peaked--and stagnated--in wotlk at 10 mil, and also dropped during wotlk. worst expansion ever that doomed the game. there was steady growth in sub count until wotlk.
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>>579800230
oh so now it wasnt 10 mil in vanilla? which is it? btw youre still just throwing out random numbers with no proof
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I'm kind of worried that they're going to make every spec some form of builder-spender like how it is currently in retail.
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>>579800749
>lets make retail again
hello retard-kun
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>>579800749
thats not how they currently are in retoilet, thougheverbeit
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>>579800352
I never said 10 mil vanilla.
just search "wow sub count" and go to image results nufaggot.
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>>579801008
lol you said it twice in two previous posts>>579795442 >>579794154

>google it
ok now what
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>Lich King ending cinematic has the iconic "No king rules forever my son"

The leaks about Classic+ being not Vanilla but set in Azeroth during WC2/WC3 are 100% right. Arthas will King in this new game but not as the Lich King.
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>>579801405
>the line only goes up during vanilla-tbc
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>>579801405
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>>579802259
it goes up in wrath into cata tho
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>Classic Plus will feature two subfactions of humans at odds vs. two subfactions of orcs
>Wrynn vs. Menethil
>Thrall vs. Garrosh
RvRvRvR BG zone like Cyrodiil
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>>579803451
Fat humans (gilneans) and non hunchbacked orcs, that will be 50 dollars please.
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>>579803451
>Menethil

You mean the family that's extinct that used to rule a now extinct nation? Are you ok anon
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>>579804118
>he doesn't know that classic plus is the new timeline where arathor, alterac and lordaeron are alive
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>>579732917
fuck I was scrolling the thread to find the blizzcon schedule and this looked like a coinslot. you fucking got me.
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>>579805849
Sounds like some gay ass retoilet shit, will we have gay stags and bucks too? The warring centaur tribes will be busy fucking each other in the ass instead of killing each other? I don't trust new blizzard with anything new regarding setting or lore
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>>579806340
classic+ will be metzen approved lore only
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>>579527168
ok so, the time gap after the wow intro is for starcraft, unless they're doing starcraft after overwatch.
starcraft is on the cover art for blizzcon this year. they are announcing something big. destiny with a starcraft skin?

here's another way to look at it.
warcraft is front and center, and being talked about first, the gap is for ploos.
then reading left to right, d4 then overwatch, just like the schedule.
and in the back, sc, so 45 minutes of the "community" time is really sc announcement time.
reading the banner front to back, and following the schedule posted.
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I hope the wiggers and subhumans stay on Anniversary and don't go to Classic +. I don't want to hear a 35 y/o T-Mobile worker brownoid brag about buying gold in Discord ever again.
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>>579806902
how come immortal can demand an entire stage and has an event during the entire blizzcon?
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>>579806902
ermm starcraft isnt on the cover art thats hearthstone
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>>579811408
there's a marine in hearthstone?
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>>579794419
Now remove the bots, chinks and third worlders.
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>>579811485
yeah 2 mana 2/2 with taunt
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Leveling a Druid on tbc just to feel something. This feels so pointless but literally what are the other options besides some shitskin pserver that will barely be a memory after 9/12
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>>579811627
Era because at least all your progress is permanent.
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>there are people right now clearing gruuls for the 28th week trying to get dst
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>>579812858
so classic+ means the end of classic
:(
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Personally I’m using my free time now to cause retailnigger meltdowns. Metzen is actually killing their game. I might die of based.
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>>579813261
Don’t worry anon you can stick behind with the mudhut third worlders lying to themselves that they’re playing the better version.
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>>579813261
what haven't you done in classic?
what keeps you logging in?
it's not randomized like diablo 2.
there is not 7 years, not counting vanilla or pserfs, worth of content in classic.
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>>579813872
The only thing that keeps people logging into Classic is the absence of a better option.
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>>579814085
the fuck? there are tons of better games out there.
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>>579813392
>>579813872
desu i dont log on to era very often but when i do i typically just join whatever raid is being advertised
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>>579728871
No need to post your sad cringe little fanfic just because you got outed as a retard who can't even look at his fucking buffs to see earthbiter and windfury don't stack
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>>579814238
Name one
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>>579815296
Deadlock.
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>>579751651
>Pilav
Pilav became the exact pathetic loser be used to make fun of once he sniffed some of that twitch money
Now he's nothing but AIslop thumbnails and click bait titles, and only saying things tha the knows will please the viewers.
>Elden ring is the best game ever guise
>Dark souls is the best game ever
>I'm big P
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>>579815538
>not an MMORPG
>has even more trannies than XIV and VRChat combined
Brown skin detected
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>>579816004
you didn't say mmo.
there are no good mmos.
it's an antiquated genre.
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>>579755989
Shitbek is probably the most pathetic streaming man child I've seen.
Dude is balding like crazy, in his thirties, and still dressed and styles his bleached hair like he's an emo 15 year old
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>>579816073
Me when my skin is brown and I’m retarded
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is it true that life half the specs in the game cant really be played in endgame content in original classic? like if i wanted to tank with feral or prot paladin it just doesnt work?

or is that just meta pushing nonsense? how far off are the specs that are below the top performers? are we talking like 5-10% difference or like 50% difference?
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>>579816885
feral tank works okay
prot pala and other 'worthless' specs are seriously flawed and because of world buffs they are well bellow 50% and in some cases enemies have immunity to your attacks
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>>579817602
damn. i get wanting to preserve the museum piece, but maybe they could have done with like 1 balance pass to make this a bit less lopsided. below 50% and immune to entire specs is not a good place for any game to be in, idc if its trying to capture a specific era, i dont think it would totally destroy the classic vibe just to make some of the unplayable classes playable. but idk, im not like a hardcore classic player, im just getting into it after being a live player for decades
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>>579818016
>>579816885
You’re over 7 years late to the show and the solution to this is literally being announced in a week. Sit down and shut up with your newfag retoilet opinion lest it be considered in earnest by the blizzdrones that absolutely comb these threads.
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>>579818210
>its good actually that half the classes cant play the game

soup between your ears
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>>579818016
yeah its pretty bad but you kind of know what youre getting into. some of the specs are still kinda fun dungeons at least like ele shaman but in raids its no exaggeration they are just bad. also a fun pvp spec
even back in 2005 people knew these specs were really bad but nobody cared. the classes that really got screwed on re-release are rogue and hunter they used to be plentiful but now theyre deadweight
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>>579818894
>one of its brightest points
>that some classes just have completely worthless specs

you're a fucking moron
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>>579819308
People wanted Classic. What you're asking for is Classic+. Which will be announced in a week.
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>>579819308
At least in classic when a spec isn’t meta it still excels in at least one job, whether it’s open world farming, PvP, or something else. When your spec in retail is bad you just don’t get invited to anything. Seriously though, you’re talking about shit you have zero understanding of which is exactly how retail got so bad and why your dumb ass ended up here. You can either take the medicine like an adult and realize that a good game doesn’t mean it does every single little thing that makes your pathetic prick pop up, and partake in the parts you do enjoy, or you can insist everything be valid and fun and homogenized until it’s boring and soulless exactly like the retail slop your stupid nigger ass is trying to escape right now.
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>>579819591
>At least in classic when a spec isn’t meta it still excels in at least one job, whether it’s open world farming, PvP, or something else
is enh shaman good at open world farming? they might be really bad but they are a funny spec in pvp
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>>579820116
I think they can do DM jump run farms pretty effectively but I’m not sure. Enhance and shamans in general are absolutely a force in PvP though, and basically every group in your raid wants a shaman for the totems. Is Shaman really the class you’re whining this hard about? They’re literally one of the strongest classes in the game.
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>>579820337
im not the first guy just somebody who replied. i dont know if shaman is that good tho
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>>579820729
If your spec is so strong in raid that you can be brought into a group by simply having a pulse, you’re playing a strong spec. Does it do the most damage? No. Does it do the most healing? Often. Does it offer the best support in the game? Yes. That’s shaman’s job in classic and it’s phenomenal at it. Literally the only class that comes close is Paladin, and both of these are classes that the average retoilet FOTM nigger would stick their nose up at because they don’t get to be a parse lord while they press the glowing button. But this is exactly my point, if you buffed shaman at all in classic it would be completely busted. That doesn’t mean you’re going to rape the DPS meters and carry every group though, and that’s why Classic is superior.
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>>579812858
the only "people" playing a seasonal retail server will be shitskins who need to go with the streamer kids and retail tourists because thats who buys the gold they farm.
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>>579820810
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>>579821292
Right, because a minority-owned funserver that can’t even maintain a playerbase isn’t at all infested with retarded shitskins in comparison to the paid (read: whites only) legal servers.
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Just one more fresh…one more lawsuit…one more DDOS…one more tranny-run guild while we all pretend we hate trannies…we are SO close bros
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Glad more people are roasting the DDOS from raven, actual nigger behavior
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>>579788523
I miss'um(me).

We making a guild for fresh+ or naw? someone get Kedis on the phone.
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warcraft forever + 2 classic camelot hype
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classic+ will have worgen
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>from the people who fumbled retail, classic progression, classic anniversary, sod and som and era
>THIS time it will be different, trvst the plan,
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Blizzard hates classic, resents classic fans for disliking retail, and only ever made it available again at all because demand was simply too large to ignore. Classic+ will be made by the same people who turned retail into what it is today, they won't magically start having a non shit design philosophy that will make vanilla better instead of ruining it just because they're calling it classic+ instead of a new retail expansion. Even if it was somehow decent as some cosmic accident they would obviously immediately ruin it with the wow token and level boosts among other microtroonsactions
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>>579827269
>wow token and level boosts among other microtroonsactions

added to the development list together with gay centaurs. Thank you, champion.
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NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT VALHEIM KUNGEN YOU CRYBOOMER HACK
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I would unironically play this crap if it had things like corpse runs, xp loss or open world dungeons. if you are gonna make it even more "hard" and tedious then do it right
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Classic should be more like retail I hate retail btw
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>>579757205
>>579818503
That's era players for you.
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>>579831797
Just play it hardcore or you suck anyway. Corpse runs r for NOOBS. Level cap of 50 is trash though
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>>579818503
every single class and every single spec can play the game. you are a subhuman nigger and the reason retoilet is as shite as it is.
>>>/vg/wowg get the fuck away from me
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>>579835710
>every single class and every single spec can play the game
but you faggot dad's can't
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>>579835585
>play it hardcore or you suck!
oh yeah it's so HARD-CORE leveling all the way to 60 grinding green mobs or using a restedxp guide like a mindless maggot damn these guys are INSANE and so skilled
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>>579837026
not you again you stupid faggot
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>>579837026
>>579837126
He's not wrong lol
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>>579837126
I barely post here these days, a friend of mine just sent me that classic- pic so I'm probably not the guy you think I am.
but yeah hc wow is for shitters using leveling addons, streamer grifters and trannies
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>>579837026
TRVKE
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>>579837351
He's thinking you are me. I've told him several times hardcore is boring because the mode encourages you to take less risks. You are absolutely correct about the addons. I wish they would remove all addon suport for plus (they won't).
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>>579838052
>hardcore is boring because the mode encourages you to take less risks
true. I unironically think that speedrunning raids at lvl 60 takes way more skill and coordination than leveling a hc toon or doing a hc raid
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The only things HC players are right about are caves and tiny houses should be skipped. They all look the same and the way 3 mobs respawn on top of you with nowhere for you to run is retarded. Fuck caves.
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>>579838315
Absolutely it does. I only leveled one char to 60 (on turtle) and while it was funny until you're like lvl35 because of the way the economy worked there (you could only trade in a 5 level range) it eventually becomes super boring. I was tanking and sometimes I like to be right on the edge of dying and try to pull as much as I can but I can't do that in hc so it's just fucking boring, robotic gameplay. If I was dps I would just kms I can't imagine how much more boring it would be.
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>>579838565
nah it's cool, hyperspawn sucks as a mechanic but that's on blizzshart
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>>579838565
You don't need to skip them (at least on turtle bc there were no layers) but you have to be familiar with them and clever about it. If you enter an empty cave they might all respawn at the same time cuz some mage was farming there or something. So don't enter the cave until the mobs respawn so you can safely make your way in (unless you already know the cave very well).
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>>579838052
its no longer about the argument, your hyper-obsession towards this singular topic screams inferiority complex
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>>579839928
there never was an argument because he never described anything even close to reality. it's just trolling at this point
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I mean I have no problems with you if you like slurping semen and grinding green mobs for 50 levels, that's on you and I'm fine with that.
just don't pretend that your little gamemode takes skill man. it's cringe as fuck
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>>579839928
How am I the one being obsessed when you're the one who brought the topic up (again)? Seems like you're obsessed.
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you are mentally ill
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>>579840404
you won't be able to clear deadmines in HC. keep coping mouthbreather
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>>579679480


https://wowprivateservers.vercel.app/classic-plus/

You're welcome.
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>>579840861
Most people doing deadmines HC are 5 levels higher than the last boss.
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>>579821231
It's absurd that I have to read this. If you think any class is worth shit besides warrior (or priest for healing only), you are completely retarded. A single class, being the best DPS in PvP and pve, completely stackable and also the only good tank is somehow good. Fuck off retard, there is a reason why tbc expanded things. Even the devs admitted that it was only in tbc that the classes were complete. I'm really glad we will have classic plus so people will never get nostalgic about vanilla shit
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why do people care about "the best class" outside of speedruns when there are people doing raids with 40 naked taurens and stuff like this?
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>>579842342
Best class = best at dps = bigger epeen = I want to be the main protagonist and I want everyone to be amazed at my meters and I want the hours I spend grinding to not be wasted on a class that has 0.01% less numbers than the best class.
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>>579679480
Can anyone help me find good auction house data for Classic (or TBC Classic at most)?
Like, in a well-populated server, without hyper-inflation from year-of-endgame/swiping/etc, what is the average price of a stack of 10 Copper Bars? What about 10 Wool Cloth?
I failed to find any good source of info.
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I might get in trouble for revealing this but one of the changes in the upcoming version is that ragnaros will have a forced submerge. Something like he goes under at 30% instead of being based on time.
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>>579843341
useless info, waste of wear on both our keyboards and fingers.
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>bad balance, 20y old
:oooooooo
>bad balance, 2026
:/
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>>579844386
>100 raids with 30 warriors
:)
>2 raids with balanced distribution of classes
:C
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>>579843341
that would make the fight literally impossible though?
just like getting phase 4 on illidan, it's a wipe if it ever happens.
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We need a guild for Ploos
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>>579844386
>>579844701
You don't get it, you will never get it, and I will laugh as you keep trying to understand and fail.
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>>579820810
I don't. I'm only here to see what the Blizzcon announcements are.
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>>579827179
why aren't you using wotlk as after activision?
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this was actually a based video for some random guy with 1 video. he suggest that c+ is to be the baseline for people new to warcraft instead of dealing with the lore mess that is retail after playing another warcraft rpg or watching a warcraft series.

https://youtu.be/vQjzZ_nnakE

so basically what I've learned after watching a few videos last night, this wow camelot is the continuation of wow, so it will be the same troony retail developers making retail- or sod+ called wow:c. and retail could end at the end of the world soul saga, leaving an end point for the classic rereleases as well, as they move forward with a wow 2, or they might keep working on retail and progress those characters into a wow 2. but you have people like metzen and holly talking about "they wish it wasn't called warcraft" like lmao.
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hamsterbros we are here

https://www.twitch.tv/xxgwendolina
https://www.twitch.tv/xxgwendolina
https://www.twitch.tv/xxgwendolina
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Blizzcon - Hopes, Fears, Expectations?
Hopes
>World of Warcraft Editor (like Warcraft 3 Map Editor)
>Blizzard closing down
Fears
>Classic+ is a vanilla/retail hybrid
Expectations
>Classic+ but is just a few QOL changes, one or two new forgettable dungeons, an underwhelming new levelling zone and a couple more cooking recipes
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>>579848138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzoPSV4ua94
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10 Hardcore players can destroy 1000 ERA players and 10000 TBC players and 10 million moppies and 10 billion retail players.
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US + EU has 1.2m subs that play retail at least shown in this link https://www.dataforazeroth.com/stats/summary - You can back it up with raider.io stats using M+ participation, and extrapolate China's data from that too, which I found was another 1mil subs for retail. Game has slightly over 2m subs playing retail only, is classic more popular?
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That one time sod players got put in battlegrounds against eracucks was kino.
Total swarthy brownoid eradication.

Sod chads just deleting them in one global
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>>579850691
>is classic more popular
lmao!
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TBC sucks
Classic + is happening
StarCraft 3 is coming out
TBC sucks
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>zombies farming mount reskins from 5 expansions ago
>actual players
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>>579853249
>TBC sucks
wrong
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>>579853249
>StarCraft 3
so wow is warcraft 4? because the sc announcement isn't an rts, so calling it sc3 is retarded.
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'vun 'sus 'tus?
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which expansion introduced all the disney pixar bloat?
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>>579853852
Correct, it's a shitty raidlog expansion like WOTLK and beyond
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>>579849475
>Blizzcon - Hopes, Fears, Expectations?
>Blizzard closing down
Best Blizzcon that has ever been or will be
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>>579855182
wod, but the disney pixar was optional. they made it mandatory a bit later
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>>579796623
idiot
>>>/v/746783982
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>>579849475
>hopes
more hots content
>fears
none
>expectation
disappointing plous which we won't matter since we're still gonna play it you bunch of junkies
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>>579853249
they dont call it the filtering crusade for nothing
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>>579855218
what version of wow isn't just a raidlogger?
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>>579857498
Vanilla
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>>579858659
lol!
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>>579857498
vanilla hardcore

>>579858659
incorrect
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classic+ should remove all raids
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>>579859770
low iq post
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classic ploos should add more world buffs
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>>579860075
>t. brown retoileter
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>>579859770
t. 50 year old 0 effort dad gamer
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classic ploos should remove all flight paths.
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plus needs gay centaurs
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classic plus should add a ban on using /dance as a night elf until you are level 20
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>>579859634
Hard filtered, enjoy your 5 hour BT and logging!
>>579859754
It's correct, you gettint filtered from the massive resource farming you have to do isn't a cop out
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>>579777994
My understanding is that every healer except the restoration druid gets punched in the gut, but the holy paladin and discipline priest maybe still left standing as they at least still have their absorbs. Holy priest dies on the spot. Restoration shamans and mistweaver monks can't get any worse
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>>579843070
Tbf ret isn't a spec that performs "0.01%" less than a top class. A lot of specs that arent fury straight up have a huge gap.
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>>579859770
Correct, Kungen the #1 world first raider in WoW history with all world first kills in vanilla/tbc explained it the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MNFWhCw8dg
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>10 years ago
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>>579862563
>swigger has an opinion
shan't be listening
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>tbc is good!
>nobody talking about tbc in the general
Makes ya think
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why would tbc be discussed in a classic general?
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>>579863209
retail has its on thread
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>>579862563
truth nuke, ploosie should redesign all raids from scratch into 10mans.
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Classic+ already exists and its called Retail.
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Cries for classic+ are so fucking retarded. This company is not going to waste resources creating a new product for classic players when they have the new product right there which is retail. Whether or not its good is a different story but if you sincerely expect the same company whos been fumbling retail, classic, sod, som etc you are actually fucking delusional and begging to be disappointed. Most importantly
>no one can even agree on what classic+ is
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seems like you are the only retard here
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>>579864782
>from the people who destroyed retail, classic progression, classic anniversary, sod and som and era
>THIS time it will be different, trvst the plan,
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>>579858659
uhh how?
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>>579865586
see:

>>579862563
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>classic+ is actually just a brand new game but set in a vanilla-like world with vanilla-like values
>classic+ is just retail- and no one from either crowd enjoys it and barely any fresh blood will join for it either, and twow/ascension were culled for nothing
>classic+ is just the laziest shit you could imagine and practically SoD2: Electric Boogaloo
Which of these scenarios is most likely? Also if they are actually putting considerable effort into the game, how long until boosts and wowtoken is added?
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>>579865681
if you need to link a video from someone who isnt even you to explain your argument, you already lost
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>>579865801
>source?
>NOO NOT LIKE THAT!

Another easy win.
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>>579863209
its been mentioned 18 times, though
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>>579865765
Deluxe pre order package with token, shop mount, hearthstone animations and transmog sets was already datamined.

It has always been known that they are just copy pasting the chinkforged chynawrath garbage over.

Anyone who is waiting for this or thinks it has any chance to be anything but dog shit ass garbage (like everything else they have made after 2006) is retarded.
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>>579864782
The only thing I can think is that this is Blizzard doing a hard pivot and trying to make something that ties into their other WoW related media coming in the future. Like The Last Titan sounds like an "avengers endgame" sort of title for Retail as a whole. Meanwhile they have plans for WoW tv shows and shit that center around Arthas and lore from warcraft 2-3. How the hell do you expect new viewers to your tv show to jump into retail? How the hell do you expect them to jump into solved classic era or into a seasonal classic cycle? I feel like whatever Camelot is, is the answer to bridge the gap for a new audience and a relevant game for the upcoming media franchise. Meanwhile retail can keep doing it's retail thing for people to enjoy that.
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>>579865905
>i simply dont understand the argument im making well enough to explain it myself in a sentence or two
probably could have explained it in detail at this point
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>>579865482
buck broken blizzdrones will never get it. Just remember these people played SoD for fuck sakes.
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The niller yearns for dnd while getting distracted by the key jingling of retail design
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>>579865905
>why do you think that?
>uh well listen to this guy explain my opinion in a 10 minute long video
>okay but what do YOU think??
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>>579864782
You're retarded. They could literally copy paste turtle and it would give them more subs than retoilet. They will obviously do something other than that but the idea there's no money to be made with a c+ is retarded.
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>>579866137
I personally think the biggest mistake people are making when hyping for Classic+ / Camelot is that they expect it to be Classic. It's not going to be Classic. It's not going to be Classic+ either. It's likely going to be a new IP within the Warcraft universe to coincide with all the other shit they have planned for the franchise.
And the normies are going to eat that shit raw, just like they did with Fallout when the TV show came out. Blizzard knows this
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>2019 was perfect for the first 6 weeks before minmax autism of a solved game took over
>anni was good
>hardcore was good
>SoD was good for the first 6 weeks and also finished strong
>Titanforged is popping off in China and the meta is actually diverse

There is a legitimate chance Plus is good but you guys really should stop watching parasocial speculation videos because there probably won't be a legit leak until a day or two before blizzcon.
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I've heard from like 5 different fucking retards about how "Metzen is helping Classic+ it's going to be amazing!"
Why do people still suck off this massive fag? Did everyone conveniently forget this is the guy who
>brought you green jesus
>brought you an entire expansion centered around a wc3 april fools joke and jokey campaign with 1 panda
>assassinated garrosh
>flopped WoD which could have been an amazing expansion
>decided women are too sexy and covered up sylvanas + nerfed all the bikini armor in the game "m-muh daughter"
>allowed the overwatch team to turn his OC from 1998 (Soldier 76) into a homoerotic lgbt flag waving dad that borders on the cringiest of fanfiction
This guy has been a total loser for over a decade. He got an inflated head and became like every other commiefornian cocksucker. When he came back I felt no joy and it feels like no more than some gay ass marketing stunt to "bring back the old fans."
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>>579865586
>>579865681
>>579865801
>>579865905
huehuehue
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>>579867283
>brought you an entire expansion centered around a wc3 april fools joke and jokey campaign with 1 panda
mop was good and so are pandaren
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>>579867124
it's sod+, and we all experienced sod and know it was retail-.
that's why it's not being marketed as a seasonal server and instead a product you can purchase.
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>>579867301
Yep, pretty embarrassing that guy cant even answer a simple question.
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>>579867283
what's the alternative?
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>>579867472
it's the intentional misunderstanding that gets me rolling. you never asked for a source.
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>>579867439
I disagree that SoD was Retail-
SoD is the closest we're ever going to get to Classic+
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>>579867124
I wouldn't even mind if that's what it was. I see no way Blizzard turns Classic into Classic+ in a way that would make it actually enjoyable. Turtle and Ascension were novel, but short lived. Turtle just added some new content, but it was still like only a year of longevity to it. WoW doesn't have horizontal progression or long grinds like Runescape, so anything new added would be solved in a matter of weeks. Any new leveling zones would just get skipped over in favor of the meta leveling strat (whether that be dungeon spamming or a routed guide). Any new dungeons would lose their charm after a few runs.

Ironically I'm most excited for Camelot to be a new game that has the same world feel and community aspect as Vanilla. A true Fresh. But sadly I also know it's made by Nu-Blizzard so it's likely to be shit. And even worse I also know Blizzard is so lazy they literally would just basically carbon copy turtle/ascension and put out a half assed product, call it classic+, and give it like 5 indian staff before just throwing it in a seasonal cycle to milk piggies.
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If classic is anything other than vanilla with gaps filled in and balance tweaks I'm out.
Get the tweaks right first before we start talking about new zones or raids too
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>>579867643
what do you mean, camelot is sod+, and sod was retail-, so camelot is retail-.
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>>579867403
MoP was good gameplay wise, but Pandaren are a literal joke. They could have done much more with them instead of literally taking Chen and going "Kung-fu Panda, huh?" and making an entire expansion out of that. Their lore was weak because it was non-existent until that point. They were too goofy to be taken seriously. And the Sha plotline felt underwhelming and took Horde's second warchief in a row. Which started the cycle of them losing a warchief every goddamn few years.
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>>579867950
I don't believe Camelot is going to be "SoD+". I don't believe it's going to be World of Warcraft at all, actually.
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>>579868074
the plot might have been bad, but the lore was fine. kung fu panda is a 10/10 film, so taking Chen and going "Kung-fu Panda, huh?" was an absolutely fine thing to do.
pandaren are cool. the gameplay being good is a lot more important anyway.
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>every single request for classic plus is just something expansions did
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>>579867621
Get Kaplan, Ghostcrawler, Kevin Jordan, Mark Kern, and all the other oldheads that used to ragepost at Blizzard back in the day when they were players and not devs. Then I'll trust in a new project. Getting the guy who said "I wish we didn't call it WARcraft haha!" fills me with 0 confidence. Maybe that means no factions in Camelot.
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>>579868497
Retail is definitionally classic+
They started with classic, and then added more
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>>579868371
>pandaren are cool
get this shit off my screen
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why are raidtrannies so anti-dungeons
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>>579868703
Pandaren are samwise core and thus warcraft core
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>>579868497
volumes nvke!!
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>>579868984
they can't be carried as easily and smaller groups expose their shittery
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>>579867840
>WoW doesn't have horizontal progression or long grinds like Runescape, so anything new added would be solved in a matter of weeks. Any new leveling zones would just get skipped over in favor of the meta leveling strat
In a sense that is why Classic+ is not going to happen. No matter what Blizzard does, they can't please everyone. Anyone, really.
They temporarily pleased some people by releasing Classic, but now that we've gone through that shit twice, plus sod and som, it all showed the same results, and that is that players can't help themselves from minmaxxing the fuck out of the game, finding out the fastest and most effective ways to reach lvl 60 and clear all the raids, and then they get bored. Then people cry for new shit like zones, classes, raids, dungeons, whatever. Problem is, the moment that is introduced, it'll once again be minmaxxed to hell and back, and some of the content will probably be skipped entirely because "it isn't effective enough". And then players and likely most retards in this general will go "well, it wasn't even that good anyway" and continue to cry.

J. Allen Brack was right. You think you want it, but you don't, simply because people don't actually know what it is they want, or what it is you feel is missing.
But it's pretty obvious that people want to get the same feeling as they did back in 2004, and that ain't gonna happen with Classic, it ain't gonna happen with any variation of Classic+, it most certainly ain't gonna happen with any retail expansion, and Blizzard fucking knows this. Therefor, the only real thing left is make a new game entirely.
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they can please me very easily by simply adding new quests, new items and new dungeons to the game at all levels.
new means never before seen in any version of the game.
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>>579862563
>shills black desert at the end
lel
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>>579870273
sod did this
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>>579870545
no it didn't. it added shit from retoilet and insane reddit garbage.
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>>579870743
what is "reddit garbage"?
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>>579870885
dps classes "tanking" and "healing" with the worst execution possible
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>>579868497
Why wouldn't this be true though?

When you say "prot paladins run out of mana and lack a taunt, how should we fix that?" and TBC adds Spiritual Attunement and Righteous Defense, an unorthodox taunt ability, how would you suggest an alternative solution to the one blizzard already provided in 2008? Same with non-warrior/rogue dps rotations lacking complexity. Or talent trees being useless to the point that we skipped the original talent trees and started classic at 1.12's talents?

Or devs, by their own admission, saying that Druid was an incomplete class in vanilla and they delayed the fixes to the class in TBC? There is no way to distinguish between a fix to the game between launch and 1.12 and anything added between 1.12 and 3.3.5a.
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they should appoint me as the ultimate arbiter for what changes should be made
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>>579872006
I'd vote for you if you're alexsensual or an anime poster
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>>579872213
why would you want someone who dies to a level 17 hunter in charge of changes?
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>>579871636
The game has always had a tank shortage, so giving hybrid classes a full tanking tool kit and not just "unorthodox" abilities is what we need. Give druids a dedicated tanking spec, a 4th spec like guardian if you have to, give shamans the ability to tank as enhance, just add more full fledged tanks to the game
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>>579751651
>needing to feel part of some parasocial relationship team or another
faggot
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Dark archangel

when your mind blast critically strikes, you transform into a dark archangel for 8 seconds. During your transformation all of your shadow damage is increased by 30% and mana cost of your shadow spells is reduced by 100%
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>>579815940
>Elden ring is the best game ever guise
that is true though
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>>579871050
warlocks tanked in vanilla and tbc though.
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>>579872558
doesn't solve the respec issue, which is the reason why there's such a tank shortage in classic.
they should just give out free respecs, but you have to talk to your trainer to respec. basically what it is now, but without the gold cost.
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>>579873248
you know what he meant, stop being a disingenuous faggot
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>>579815940
seems like going to prison broke him.
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>>579873527
whatever bro hope you enjoy your high elves, dwarf shamans, and undead paladins.
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>>579873405
There is no respec issue. There should be no dual specs. Play the role you decided to play in the roleplaying game and shut up.
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>>579873950
this is why I keep coming back to this website. to see pure unfiltered retardation like this.
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>>579872468
He lost and he's moved on, we all fail brother it's about climbing back up.
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>>579874301
>im playing a role playing game where I get to roleplay as X
>but i'm just going to change my role to Y and Z every other fight bc i'm genderfluid like that
No. Play your role and enjoy the game.
What else, should people also have more professions? Diisgusting...
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AlexIRL coming soon -you know where
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>>579867227
>>anni was good
This never happened.
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>>579867283
You forgot
>his current saga with TWW and Midnight have been absolute irredeemable dogshit and people keep coping saying he never got to write TWW when it was released and now that midnight is out suddenly everyone is quitely pretending they never said that
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>MoPniggers still trying to push that MoP was actually le good despite being the deadest expansion so far
Glad you faggots have been exposed.
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>>579689060
A lot of players in '19 didn't even know about logging
And TBC/WotLK having BOTH raids/arena just means there is double dipping
Retard
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>>579869865
How the sweats play barely impacts how I play the game though. Especially while leveling.
Fuck the poopsockers let em rush the content and whine. I'll be questin where I want to
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>>579876889
where'd he find that baby fetus tho
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>>579876889
>The CEO of Era is a fat spic
VOLUMES
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Bros... 8 more sleeps.
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>>579872558
Tank Druids problem isn't the feral tree. The feral tree is great value.
The problem is it just doesn't have the toolkit to become crit immune, and it has almost no "OH SHIT" tanking buttons.
And the fact that the majority of feral raid gear is garbage compared to what warriors have access to so they get giga outscaled. And they don't have access to on hit weapon enchants too.
There's a bunch of reasons but the talent tree isn't the problem. They are leagues better than paladins and shamans for tanking
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https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1w7a94g/be_careful_with_weakauras_sent_via_discord/
topkek
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>blvd is unironically linking reddit here
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>>579877279
Crit immunity doesn't matter. The problem with feral tank is being unable to pot while in bear and having to farm pummelers
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>>579879001
its pretty funny doebait
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>>579879007
It matters in the sense that since they cant become crit immune there is no point risking using a druid in late game fights. Even if all their other problems were fixed that would keep them out of the slot.
Pummelers suck ass too true, and the fact druids only kept up at all by using that shit was a crime.
Forgot about potting but that is a problem.
Druid dungeon tanking though is super chill and viable at least. If you are going to have a shit tank for your dungeon run you'd much rather it be a druid.
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>>579878698
This is why I have claude code my addons for me
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>>579874659
>you know where
uh stop assuming bor
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>>579871636
I'd honestly be cool with Classic+ classes being their TBC versions, I have the most fun ever with TBC prepatch anyway
Toss Karazhan in as a C+ raid too just swap out any of the gay space gear that drops, any of the cool designs like Wolfslayer Rifle are fine to be reused
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>>579876563
>Nillers can't appreciate the lore, the music, the kino questing, Timeless Isle, challenge modes or even the svperior peeveepee
>Only care about raids, and raids were left buggy
Gee I wonder why it's not popular with braindead normalfaggot audience that is Classic players.

You just had to be there kid.
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>>579881872
classicucks would enjoy challenge modes, since its basically speedrunning and will be in classic+
but since it puts everyone in the same gear and there are no buffs, they cant claim to outskill you
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>>579881872
Green Fire questline was my favorite part about MoP, I wish Blizzard added more content like that for other classes with difficult solo bosses and unique cosmetic rewards
Hell people are STILL clamoring for something like it or Mage Tower which is coming up 10 years
With scaling tech they could easily keep solo bosses difficult, and players enjoy rewards that they personally earned to show off
The fact Blizzard hasn't gotten a clue is just sad
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>>579883604
hunter epic weapon in vanilla.
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>>579883879
And priest epic weapon
SoD did good with some of the added epic weapon quests like paladin, warrior and rogue but others like druids got shafted
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>>579883604
best we can do is gay centaurs and a shop mount
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>>579886874
can it be a gay centaur shop mount?
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Everyone’s login screen in ~10 days
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chromie is not sexy enough
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>>579888674
qrd
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>>579889789
It's just a filename some fag found.
There is no real info, just more speculation
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>>579889318
what an evil image, this actually pierced my heart
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>>579889318
its kind of interesting blizzard themselves confirming that TBC and everything afterwards were a mistake.
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1 week until you can pre order the deluxe package, have you guys saved up enough for it? what about tokens and shop mounts?
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>>579890036
I feel like these guys just ask AI "write me a 10 minutes script of yapping about classic + and what it would be and what it couldn't be" and then they just read it
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do you guys remember when the mop indian tried to post a hype world boss image of MoP and 80% of the chat was spanish lol
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>>579890425
is that why they keep making expansions and using ideas from previous expansions in sod?
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>>579890943
at least you dont get tricked. i joined a marbella gdkp on firemaw and despite advertising everything in english they only spoke spanish
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Please explain to me why wow token is bad? Why would I, a superior white man, spend time doing mind numbing subhuman shit like right click on a mining node or autoshoot a grey level mob? Thats the job for brown subhumans. Speaking of brown subhumans, why would I a superior white man give away my disposable income to them so their family won't starve? I want them all dead. Isn't it better for me to give my money to my fellow whites with excess gold in form of token? White people with less income can use their gold to pay for their subscription while I can spend my free time doing fun things in game instead. Win win!
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>>579889318
the heckin' fisherinos!
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>>579889318
>What if we... le never went thru le dark portal!

What if all redditors and youtuber parroters killed themselves in a mass suicide event?
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>>579890425
class balance is supposed to be based on tbc, because it's the best version of classes. vanilla was still incomplete with each class only having 1 valid spec, and wotlk+ is a joke because all class uniqueness has been removed and you no longer need to eat or drink.
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>>579892852
it devalues the time spent playing the game when you can just pay to skip it, and it devalues your achievements in the game since you can just pay to achieve things.
it places a dollar value on everything in the game, so you start thinking about farming primal shadows at a pace of $1/hour instead of 1 primal per hour, and then you start thinking why the fuck am I doing this it's not even fun and I could be spend less than 15 minutes of my salary to skip 60 hours of grinding.
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>>579890573
Imagine needing to save up money for a WoW expansikn. My boyfriend buys me anything I want.
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>>579893390
you could also just play the game to have fun
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>>579893454
what's the fun part?
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>>579893390
>Thinking your "achievements" in a 20 yo game has any value at all

Lmao if I could skip everything before endgame raids and dungeons I would. Leveling can be fun the first few times tho but after 3-4 chars it really gets old. Farming is literal subhumans activity designed to keep you paying for your subscriptions because that's the only way old blizzard made money.
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>gives you season of discovery
zamn!
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>>579892852
WoW token is fine and rather elegant since you can earn gold for Bnet money and play for free or buy something else
It's the main form of monetization I don't mind with certain character services being fine so long as I don't have to look at it like cosmetic purchases which are always gaudy af
Any other opinion is nonwhite
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payo won though
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>>579894539
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>1fp
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>>579893162
>zoomer presumes that we didn’t want it blown up before Blackhand
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>>579893390
>it devalues your achievements in the game since you can just pay to achieve things.
Farming isn't an achievement lmao
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>>579893390
Illicit gold buying already caused that. The only difference is now Singh/Chang/Nguyen/Gonzalez have something to eat.
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if you still saw it, its not really a filtered post
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>>579895318
don't hate on filterjeet too much his pc can only handle so much
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>>579894882
I know right not only it solves the brown problem but autists who like to farm now can do it for free (instead of paying to do it).
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>>579893925
idk bro try addressing the point instead of melting down. your achievements in anything don't matter to anybody but yourself.
>>579895095
>buy token
>get carried in gdkp as a buyer
>???
>win
>>579895205
at least it wasn't endorsed by the company or community. but all these nufags that have been playing classic since '19 are the problem.
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>>579896452
>at least it wasn't endorsed by poor unemployed retards and astroturfing brown thirdies
Yeah that's the problem and should be addressed. Classic era and anniversary are unplayable now.
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we need to bring the world back into world of warcraft
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>>579897003
>>579896452

nvm misread your point
people still buy gold and bots still destroy the game whether people endorse it or not.
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>>579896452
Gear by itself isn't a fucking achievement either lmao
If you get carried it shows on your logs which you'd look at if you actually care about muh achievement
Even with good gear a carried player will more than likely perform poorly. If they do well then good on them.
Most gear acquired is done via social factors or luck of the die without skill. What one does with it is the only thing worth bothering about.
If you were white you'd understand.
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>>579897425
again completely off-topic. I didn't read, again.
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>>579896452
>>579897649
>buy token
>get carried in gdkp as a buyer
>???
>win
More that you lack the faculties to infer
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>>579897324
people were banned all the time for buying gold and botting before the token.
now with how powerful computing is these third worlders can do it at such a large scale that it's hopeless. but the developers/publishers can still combat this but they just try to do the minimum amount of effort and it's not enough.
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>>579898234
Gold buyers often get suspended 1-2 weeks at most which would be the amount of time they'd need to farm anyway. Meanwhile Paco just buys another account with money earned from gold selling which Blizzard graceful accept.
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I could make vanilla so good with total creative control
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you make it shit even though you have zero creative control
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Classic Plus NEEDS this (big red arrow pointing at a blood elf with MASSIVE tits)
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>>579900493
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>>579881872
>>579876563

Now that I've done nearly all the content with couple of achievements missing for the Stormbreaker title in the Isle of Thunder and the vault there as well as the highest tiers of the brawler's guild, I can say that I didn't enjoy Mists of Pandaria Classic all that much. Cataclysm Classic and WotLKC were better. But I'm happy that I experienced it and can talk about it with some authority.

While still strongly raid logging focused, which isn't necessarily wrong for many, there were still inklings of optional things to do that I rarely hear mentioned. Did you know that there were actually hidden pets to hunt for hunters? For instance, there's an invisible unique tiger, Savage, roaming in the Jade forest? It leaves paw marks that you have to track to approximate where its walking, reveal it with flare and use traps to cc and tame it before it disappears? It was a very annoying hunt. And there are even worse ones - there's an invisible turtle whose underwater! But small optional roleplay options were available in MoP. Has there ever been something like that in previous expansions?
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>>579889318
man this shit is disgusting looking. how does anyone like the AI generated "art"
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>>579900493
>>579901135
>muh big boobs and ass
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>>579901135
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>>579901382
It got posted to an Internet cesspool, it did not get framed at a museum
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>>579902065
yeah but it's just so bad. this is the millenial/zoomer version of minion memes boomers and gen x would post. it's so low effort it's insane
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>>579865765
I figured lazy shit. SoD2 or just the chinese titanreforge server.
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>>579902686
they already said titanreforge is chyna exclusive and wont be coming to the west
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>>579901216
>It leaves paw marks that you have to track to approximate where its walking, reveal it with flare and use traps to cc and tame it before it disappears?
they did exactly that in patch 9.2
>>579901739
>cocksucker
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>>579902853
Elves are the epitome of white beauty: ethereal and sly
Giving them muh big boobs and ass is brown behavior
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I picked the wrong talent. Time to delete and restart.
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>>579903860
>liking flat women that look like boys.
uh oh he's telling on himself!
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>>579903860
you're obsessed with nigger tastes a bit too much
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>>579751651
every name on this entire list is a ugly faggot loser with zero lifeskills with artificial fake teeth
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>>579754525
some guy did something like this to me 50 levels later because I rolled need on a boe green he couldn't even use and it was a huge upgrade for me at the time (it was low lvl green shoulder pads and I had no shoulders at all)
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New thread:

>>579905117
>>579905117
>>579905117
>>579905117
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>>579905258
retard
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>>579770556
knew the guy from light's hope, he's german but with turkish roots kek
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>>579869865
I just don't see how they are going to shit out a new game with maybe 2ish years of dev time. MMOs take a lot of effort and they are running like 5 live service games at once now.



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