Definitely Ace Combat 6 edition Prev. Mission >>579145760Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dLYtVUaa28>ACI is playable again!https://youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU>AC7/8 on Steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/502500 (AC7)https://store.steampowered.com/app/2288340 (AC8)AC8 trailerTakes off OCTOBER 2 2026https://youtu.be/5i_W3HDZVLA >/aceg/ Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/ybyx6>Official /aceg/ multiplayer guidehttps://rentry.org/acegMPguide>/aceg/ livery and emblem packhttps://rentry.org/3tokr>Ace Combat 3: A New Translationhttps://pastebin.com/i6sfa9aK>Encyclopedia Strangerealhttp://www.encycstra.net/>New /aceg/ MEGAhttps://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>PA Twitter (JP)https://twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES>AC7Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:>Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposes>No EML/QAAM/SASM>In Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel>Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvVhttps://rentry.org/ho8mm>OP Templatehttps://pastebin.com/e9PNHDcD>Project Wingmanhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/895870>Skin/Texture Modding Guide for PWhttps://pastebin.com/ykPhc6hn>Project Wingmanhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/895870>Skin/Texture Modding Guide for PWhttps://pastebin.com/ykPhc6hnMisc Stuff>/aceg/ Collagehttps://i.imgur.com/wP9NNDv.png>/aceg/ Story Archive 2.0https://pastebin.com/1FLC4YyV>Razgriz Patch Guyhttps://www.strangerealpatches.com/>Ostrich's Modshttps://superostrich.xyz/>/aceg/ Assault Recordshttps://pastebin.com/CjuB314d>ACX / ACJA Online Netplay Guidehttps://pastebin.com/Pk1aJsTx>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYhttps://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>What happened to Sean Ryan (Pixy) after ACZhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qat5kEtrrpk>/aceg/ Permalinkhttp://orph.link/acegFAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha..>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No.
FUCK plens.
>>579837497I think it really is lack of interest, the only PS4 emulation progress I've seen lately is Bloodborne being mostly playable.
Alright, now that there’s a new thread, why does /aceg/ have such a hateboner for 04? Is it the new players who recently got into the series and feel the need to target the “overrated” game to look cool, or is it the guys who have 5 as their favorite and, because of the relatively recent wave of overcriticism against it, feel the need to lash out at it for whatever reason?
>>579839191Why would you emulate the PS4 for AC5 when you can just emulate the PS2? It's just roundabout. The port on PS4 is cool because it's an actual native port.
>>579839191Still kinda insane that PCSX2 was released 2 years after the PS2 was and had like 90% of the library playable(in software mode) before the PS3 was even out. Hell by 2010(PS2 was 10 years old) you could play almost any PS2 game at high resolution with widescreen patches and only minor graphical bugs in a few games while others were essentially perfect.PS3 emulation via RPSC3 was a bit slower(but the CELL was a nightmare to work with so that's understandable) but by 2019 you had a very capable emulator that could run the vast majority of the library near perfectly. Meanwhile the PS4 was released 13 years ago and the only emulator for it has like 15% of the library "playable" with massive bugs and slowdowns everywhere. And the PS4 has literally no unique hardware quirks, all you have to do is translate the OS so it can run on Windows or Linux. You essentially don't even need to emulate the PS4 hardware, just its software. >>579839870No real reason if you just want to play the game. Just thought it was interesting how slow emulation has been for 8th gen consoles. There was a lot of discussion around this when they were announced, people thought emulation would be super easy since they were just PCs in a box.
>>579839323I'm pretty sure it's just a couple of posters, but I assume it's largely just because it feels somewhat... empty. It codified Ace Combat's modern gameplay for good, and its achievements as an early PS2 game are commendable, but in the end it is still just the bones that the rest of the series would build upon.
>>579839323AC04 is an acquired taste. It doesn't have the epic high production value story of 5 or the sheer cool factor of Zero. A lot of missions are score attack and provide few directives aside from "you have 20 minutes, go blow shit up". Because of this many of its missions also take quite a while to complete compared to other AC games.If you get really into the series and replay each entry like 5 times then you're going to start appreciating the high replay value and the open-ended nature of the missions but for a first play-through the missions can kinda blend together and feel drawn out and boring, especially if you played AC5 first where almost every mission provides character dialogue and plot advancement. Essentially the more you engage with the series the more you'll like 04 and the less you'll like 5. This can create some friction that's a prime target for ragebait.
>>579837782FUCK YOUI AM DESIGNING A CRUDE BULLPUP-ANALOGUE SPECIFICALLY TO OBLITERATE YOURAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
We're going back to facebook quizzes, buddieshttps://www.bandainamcoent.com/games/ace-combat-8/call-sign-generator
>>579839323The gameplay is less ambitious than 3 and 5, 0, 6.Personally I still really love the story presentation. Maybe it's the strongest of the series. I enjoy it every time I replay. It's also a literal unc game that anons on here are probably showing to their literal nephews now though.
>>5798393234 is the most high-brow AC and the thinking man's game. 5tards instinctively realise this and it makes them very insecure, which makes them lash out. Thet are envious and can't help themselves, Sad! Also notice how zerofags never have a problem with 4 because they are comfortable and secure with themselves and their tastes
>>57983932304 is either my favorite or just below 0 depending on how I'm feeling when I wake up.
>>579843739I'm happy with this.
>>579839323It's just a wannabe schizo who miserably fails at astroturfing a conflict between 5fags and 04fags.
>>579839323I went into 4 knowing virtually nothing about it but expecting and hoping to love it as much as the other games. I didn't. Most of the time it felt boring and dull and barebones, although I understand it was their first PS2 game so it wasn't going to be super ambitious and complex in terms of mission design and whatnot.I don't hate it, I just don't see whatever it is you people see in it.
I tried DLSS5 on ac7 the plane looks better, but EVERYTHING ELSE looks absolutely horrendous, it's like a hd plane flying through Jello.
>>579852919You can't just say that without posting a screenshot.
>>579853152I'm at work, I'll post some when I get home.
>>579853385To be fair, the DLSS model that got leaked was purpose-built for one specific use case of a basketball game. I imagine when Microsoft adds DLSS5 support to MSFS, their model will work way better with AC.
>>579843739I got racing stripes.
>>579839323The AC3 weeaboos and AC5 worshippers absorb the melodrama from their respective nonsensical plots and direct it at the timeless template for a good Ace Combat game that is AC4.
im blue
>>579857585they're all weeaboo games jackass
I'm pimpin.
>>579857906Actually, AC04 is a westaboo game. There's a reason it never got a Japanese voiceover.
>>579858065I'm also stupid enough to forget my fucking IMAGE
>>579843739I gave identical answers two times (after a lot of refreshing to get the same questions) and got a totally different result.This is a scam!
>>579857906Game developed in Japan =/= weeaboo gameRetard.>>579858123Exactly right.
>>579858575Ace Combat is spiritually otaku.
>>579858445That makes me feel a little better after giving healslut/tankslut answers to all the questions and getting the lame predictable nickname.
>>579857906>>579858123>>579858575You know what this line of thinking gets you?>ohhh no, arr games arr too Nipponese for the amerrican audience!!!*makes Assault Horizon*
I might actually preorder 8. Someone talk me out of it.
>>579843739also got iron talon but it had a lame black helmet
>>579843739
>>579867003Why would I talk you out of preordering a game thats basically guaranteed to be a great Ace Combat.
>>579843739These answers are fucking hilarious.>Say 'copy that' and immediately create a new problem>A single emoji that makes everyone mad
>>579867003If you are on PC and your rig is mid range there is a chance its gonna run like shit and the MP will have all contemporary business practices we all like+scamco meddling. Thats it though, the game itself seems fine.
>>579867759I got a ryzen 7 5800x and a 3060ti with 16 GB. I think it should be fine? But yeah, I'm kinda burnt from Bamco's practice with how they dealt with Tekken.
>>579867003My top reasons:1: You don't need the Zero port, it's going to be the same experience as playing in a PS2 emulator which is free and works great these days.2: It will be cheaper by Christmas, and even cheaper if you wait longer.3: There's a decent chance for performance problems at launch which might improve later.4: You'll be telling off Bamco for raising the price.5: Since I already preordered, I can get way ahead in multiplayer progress and blow your cockpit smoove off with an upgraded plane.
>>579867003I pre-ordered the Deluxe edition, so you are free to pirate the game, Project Aces wont lose any money :)
>>5798680577's online was kinda ass, was infinity actually good?
>>579868057>4: You'll be telling off Bamco for raising the price.gaymers not understanding how inflation works and expecting videojuegos to continue being sold at the same price they were being sold at in le 2008 is so funny
>>579843163Marlin?
>>579866763ACAH is the best thing to happen to Ace Combat and it's the reason we still have the franchise today.They were already going max stupid with AC6 being an XBOX exclusive and the early 2010s killed off so many franchises as publishers got greedy and started doing stupid shit. Every franchise that didn't COD-ify itself got axed forever and many of those that did(and then failed miserably) survived as the publishers got concrete proof that COD-ifying their shit doesn't work(while the franchises that didn't even try were just written off as useless).
>>579867003However on the other handYou can play the fame 3 days ahead of time if you pre-order the deluxe edition for Ace combat 8: wings of theve ™
>>579843739>Banter / Chaotic / Loyal>Unpredictable pilots who stay out of sight, make their own luck, and always leave the squad with a story.The story usually being 'and then this fucking idiot pancaked the ground at Mach 1.8.'
>>579868507Yep, revisiting it now that I've got some free time.I've also modified the intake to give it some space for the front gear (since you can't put it in front of the intake itself), and now I'm wondering whether I could put the rear in the fuselage.
>>579877667needs more aggressive wingsare you making a game or a mod for a game or what is this
>>579877901NTA but I think the wings are fine and keep my opinion from last year of it just needing some agile eagle style slats.
>>579877667>needs more aggressive wingsMaybe for a successor/later variant, this is a late 50s-like design and very much inspired by the F3H Demon.>are you making a game or a mod for a game or what is thisWorldbuilding for fun, and perhaps I'll write something set in that world. Right now, my priority is making the world itself feel complete and give it an aesthetic.>>579880040>some agile eagle style slatsI remember, buddy, it was a great idea.>from last year>time is passing this fucking fastFug...
>>579843739I think long caster would like me
>>579877667>>579880818I'm not exactly sure how to put it but the geometry of the cockpit seems too modern for its era. Even looking at the F3H which is advanced for its time, there's sort of some straight sections to the canopy glass instead of being one contiguous curve.
>Co-Op Multiplayer>Look inside>PVP
>>579880818that canopy and that intake don't look late 50s at all imo
>>579886061Just fly and be a target then
>>579867003You're going to play it anyway. Why not?
>>579885540>>579886154The canopy's a valid point. The intake is actually pretty much a Ferri Scoop, like on the Regulus II (first flight 1956) or the Crusader III (FF 1958).
>>579887521Could that wing alpha mechanism be operated in flight for extra lift memery?
>>579843739Edgy call-singI like it
>>579888106I don't know that much about the Crusader, unfortunately, but IIRC it would only be used for takeoff and landing. I've got the F-8D and E's NATOPS manual here, and it has these limitations at page 98.
>>579887116good taste, anon
>>579843739I bet you guys wish you had a helmet as cool as mine.
>>579896942Ah but I do anon. You and I are opposite sides of the same coin. >>579875783
>>579843739fortune teller bullshit would be a good gimmick for an awacs
>>579843739They made this specifically to bump this thread
>>579898742Maybe for 9 we can get a superstitious AWACS. So far Dealer seems like a huge fucking nerd going on about game theory in the middle of an active combat operation. I think he's gonna be fun to have around.
>>579898952Kono is /here/ confirmed
>>579898960I want a bloodthirsty racist AWACS, egging you on as you kill more Eruseans
>>579899526Unironically, Ghost Eye with Estovakians before the Moloch Desert mission.
>>579843739More like Radar Edgelord
This probably worked better in Japanese or something but... Man imagine having to say and listen for ANY of these stupid callsigns on the radio
>>579843739lol these are great
>>579907468Wait I just realized it said jackal on the site correctly then there's that shit
>>579906713I think they're all too long to be used in aviation
>>579843739>Loyal / Precise / Mythic>Squadron-first pilots who charge into danger and make sure their team makes it home.<<WE MUST RETVRN>>
>>579907468>JackleIs that a typo or something I've never heard of before?
>>579843739>Speed / Loyal / Aggressive>Direct, high-speed pilots who break through enemy lines before anyone can stop them.>Probably got airsick from all these stupid anticsI am going to be the one who dies first, aren't I?
>>579843739I got fucking "Barf Ejector" the first time I did this
>>579843739>Blind Needle>Stealth / Chaotic / Loyal>Hard-to-track pilots who disappear from the fight, then return from the angle no one saw coming.I like it
>>579837528Oh, was chandelier shown in an AC8 trailer? I'm not caught up on all of them. That's neat.I like chandelier but it's not stonehenge. It bugs me that it looks like it basically can't aim for all intents and purposes. It was obviously just designed to fly down the barrel of.
>>579911942Isn't the point of chandelier it was meant to a large stonehenge but because it took to much time it became the one way cannon
>>579911942it aimed by physically turning the iceberg it was built into
3 more weekends
>>579853152>>579856505Here are some DLSS5 examples if anybody's curiousOf course I know it's not the finished product, but sacrificing almost half the frames is never worth it for me, also check the hangar lights, it adjusts all the time and it makes it feel almost gelatinous, numbers behind the clouds become a blur, and there's a weird glimmer when looking at the sky.https://files.catbox.moe/0an5vr.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/l1l3ej.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/68q31q.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/tvszsb.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/0csm2q.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/e1tvo7.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/86ognk.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/tumtlk.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/y8ka2o.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/rd2rao.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/bl6rrf.mp4
>>579914458no idea if i should play 0 or 8 firstdeluxe edition seems like a waste, i don't see anything about extra missions
They've gone all in on the enthusiast niche with the heavy performance specs and all the licensing they better get the stealth jet weathering right
>>579921474Yeah, the oxidisation thing has been a known factor for a couple of years now.
>>579921474God the real world just seems dead fucking set on sucking all the fun out of these kinds of fantasies. The whole reason I'm NOT a milspec nerd is so that I can enjoy stuff like this without having to know just how miserable it'd have to be to be stuck on an aircraft carrier for the better part of a year.>Flying late-game F-35>Worried about either getting dinged by shoulder-mounted weaponry or whatever the fuck it was, or just catching fire and falling out of the damn sky>Flying F-22, staple of the game and preferred plane of plane jesus himself>Now more aware than ever just how much money Lockheed Martin's been putting into these games over the yearsIgnorance was better.
>>579924443It's a mecha anime about fantasy single combat and warrior heroes in battles of wills don't think too hard about it not everything is youtube video essay hassan piker
You think we might see something in the new state of play? Though I guess there's not much more to show.
>>579925641we'll probably get a TGS launch trailer but I think that's it at this point
>>579843739BLUE SHIELDMYTHIC / STEALTH / LOYALProtective pilots who hold the line, cover the squad, and turn survival into victory.
>>579926603>spoilers are out thereWhere? I don't see anyone mention them. Spoilers for the story, or aircraft?
>>579924443>F-22 gets damaged>"Sorry, you can't use that plane anymore, the parts don't exist and we can't make them"
>R-10x Delphinus #x>R-201 Asterozoa>R-211 Orcinus>R-311 Remora>R-352 Sepia>R-501 Rhincodon>R-531 Mobura>R-701 Triakis>R-808 PhocaGive a marine species name to the R-505U
>Leveling Up Aircraft>The higher your rank as a mercenary, the more aircraft you'll be able to obtain. Your aircraft will gain levels as they survive through various sorties, allowing you to bolster their stats and unlock new abilities.>You can customize their appearance, including the skin, emblem, and weathering.>>>allowing you to bolster their statsWell that sounds gross. Multiplayer grinders/whales will not only have (faster) access to better planes but their same planes will also just be better than a nugget's plane with the same weapon/part loadout. Was it the same way in Infinity?
>>579933267yes
>>579933267Yes. Also Infinity was incredibly grindy (and fuel meant there were restrictions on how fast you could grind if you didn't pay) on top of that. Getting a single plane to level 20 took like half a year if you were doing it on free fuel. Or even longer if it was one of the more expensive ones.8 probably won't be that bad though.
>>579933267Most people never played Infinity to know or look back at it with rose-tinted glasses but it always was a super-sweaty unbalanced mess. They're simply not good enough to put things on an even level with all the different planes + customization options.I doubt ACO will be much better.
>>579837782I want to fuck a plane
>>579936868this, and battleships
>>579936291It kinda should be unbalanced though. An F-22 is better than a MiG-21. If they're competing the F-22 should be at an advantage. If it's not then something wrong has happened.ACI did admittedly ruin even that by having the ~special~ MiG-21 which was better than the F-22 because it just was though.
>>579839323Genuinely its electrosphere faggots downplaying it to prop up their mediocre Ghost in the shell ripoff. Electrosphere quickly got the worst fans in the series somehow. Probably Thunderousfulf faggots who found their way here.
>>579911780WOLFPAC BITCHES>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYwXUxgszF0
6fags are the worst because theyve convinced themselves a press X to do awesome button is epic gameplay depth o algo
Do you think that we'll have unironic 7fags in ~10-15 years? You know, people claiming that actually AC7 is an underrated masterpiece.
>>579945586no, since 7 was never remotely as maligned as 6 was
I wish we got the original AC7 where you stayed with Spare throughout the entire game, Bandog was the best AWACS in the series.
>>579942950>Callsign: White Nationalist
>>579945276I liked ac6 missions because they're the first time I didn't feel like I was actively gimping myself for using attackers. Almost every mission is ground target heaven with tons of clumps to chew up with bombs. Fuckin loved using the Tornado in that game.
>>579949015Lack of ground targets was never the problem with attackers, it was the fact that a multirole or a fighter with UGBLs is strictly superior to an attacker with UGBLs since they're faster and more manoeuvrable and it's not like attackers do extra damage with their bombs compared to other planes. Even if you removed all the drones from "Long Day" a Berkut with UGBs is still a better option for that mission than an A-10 or a Fullback.Hopefully AC8 fixes that by letting you take multiple SPWs. It's the thing that made the Frogfoot viable in PW. Sure, you can take bombs or MLAGs in one slot on a Fulcrum or a Tomcat but a Frogfoot can take MLAGs on all slots and launch like 20 of them to wipe out an entire sector.
Plen Autismo
>>579942950>White Sovereign Lmao
The lighting in the multiplayer hangar screenshots keeps making me think they're from BF2042.
If big railguns are cool and space elevators are cool why did Ace Combat never put big railguns on a space elevator?
>>579942950THE WHITE MAN IS BACK BABY
>>579843739>Loyal / Stealth / Survivor>Protective pilots who hold the line, cover the squad, and turn survival into victory.I like it
i'm edgelord-1
>watch AC8 trailer>realize how badly Ace Combat is stagnating
Fuck it, I just preordered the game.
>>579961419You're late, you were supposed to already have bought it by June 2nd.
>>579961419But what if... game bad?
>>579962485Then, I'll just have to eat the cost.
There is a spelling mistake on my helmet.
>Griphen E has 6AGM now guess I found my mid-grind
>>579963924>she actually uses multilock A2G missilesWhy though? With the way ground targets are set up in AC games big fuckoff AoE bombs(UGBL/FAEB) are almost always better.
>>579964674maybe he likes how it feels
>>579964829They were good in Project Wingman because that game really liked spreading out its ground targets to nerf the effectiveness of bombs(And also you could load up an ungodly amount of MLAGs on a Frogfoot), so maybe that's why she wants to do it in AC as well?
>>579964674I'm just hoping that they don't lock multiple times onto the same targets.
>>579964674sometimes they aren’t bunched up also GPBs got a big damage buff so keep an eye on those
>>579962485>>579962886you can't refund if you pregoyrder?
>>579966676You can at anytime before it releases.
>>579966748and once it's out? you don't get the 2 hour window?
>>579968040Yes, 2 hours playtime for up to 2 weeks.
>>579843739>Aggressive / Stealth / Survivor>Unpredictable aces who strike without warning, vanish in the chaos, and leave the enemy guessing.Hell yeah edge kino
>>579839323Huh, I guess I'm the only one who disliked it because the controls felt a lot more sluggish to me when I played it compared to the other PS2 games. I don't dislike it much, but it's a detriment in my appreciation.
>>579964674Fire and forget is cozy. 7 has a lot of mobile ground units that can edge out of the blast radius if you don't lead a bomb far enough, and when the mission is TRIGGER DO EVERYTHING A2G missiles save mental bandwidth and stress. Not that it's really necessary.
>>579971395Well in that case you might as well go for the LACM which is basically a guided UGBL(because the actual guided bombs suck ass and have crap AoE). Still no reason to use XAGMs.
Long time Ace Combat fan about to play Ace Combat 7 for the first time. Should I bother with "Skies Restored" mod or just go vanilla?
>>579973518Definitely Vanilla for your first playthrough. Skies "Restored" restores a bunch of cut dialogue that doesn't really make a lot of sense with how the story has been changed in the various rewrites. The only mods I'd bother to use for a first run would be idolm@ster or love live skins(or maybe even Girls Band Cry or Bang Dream if that's your thing). Make sure to edit Count's special skins too so he gets to fly around in an Itasha jet.
>>579973518always play a game full vanilla if it's the first time
>>579974489I understand.
>>579974489>The only mods I'd bother to use for a first run would be idolm@ster or love live skinsanime is a mental illness
>>579975048Those are videogames thoughverbeit.
>>579964674Macross LARPing is cool for the 4 volleys you actually get to fire off before being forced to resupply.
>>579975234Well only one of them is.
>>579977205This looks like a videogame to me, buddy.
>>579975234Are they?
>>579964674This. I'm playing through AC6 again for the first time in like 15 years and as soon as I got these things ground targets became a complete fucking joke. I don't even wanna use them anymore because it takes out so many ground targets at once.
>>579964674Watching vtubers and new people not used to flying play this, and trying it myself, it is extremely cozy using lock on A2G weapons that can fire and forget instead of having to guide a bomb in on the correct spot. Frees up a lot of time.
>>579986383>Frees up a lot of timeIt really doesn't. Blowing up all the targets in one pass with SFFS/UGBL/FAEB frees up a lot more time than picking off a few of them with XAGMs. This sort of lazy approach to kill efficiency is exactly why so many nuggets got filtered by Long Day.
>>579986696Probably. I think the problem with those levels is people not being used to the basics of flight. The constant forward movement in a 3D space is something they can't wrap their head around. Trying to loop back over and over on a single target you missed instead of hitting the next thing and then turning around at the end.Can't forget gas gas gas either. So many guys will fly at a low near neutral speed when time is your number one enemy and you should be throttled up 100% of the time when you're not engaged
What franchise collab would make sense aside from topgun?
>>579987648War Thunder
>>579987648You want your merc to look fly on-base?
>>579987912Damn that does look fresh af
the guys walking around in flight helmets look like autistic kids lol
>>579987719>>579988663Should I try that while waiting for the launch?
>>579988875Not unless you feel like spending lots of money.
>>579988875Normally I'd say yes but you'd be getting on at the right time to get raped by experienced players. If you actually want to give it a shot wait until September 22nd.
>>579987648Macross that isn't exclusive to Japan.
>>579987648Cross Ange.
>>579988337>autistic kidliterally me fr fr
>>579988337I am just imagining people modding in anime avatars or something later down the line.
>>579987648Armored core
>>579987648Ridge Racer :^)
>>579995076>special Ridge Racer event>it's just this video with one team driving cars and the other team trying to destroy them>you get bonus points for drifting through gunfire and explosionshttps://youtu.be/k7YVxLLIuGM
>>579992920Disturbing lack of balding haircuts just all or nothing
>>579999659Buddy...
>>579999659the Ace Combat Infinity-themed ACO season will feature Reaper skinsand various Norwood Reaper hairstyles.Please look forward to it.
>>579999659>just all or nothingAs it should be. Just shave it buddy, bald usually looks better.
One of Greece's F-4E's pancaked the ground at an air show today. Both pilots lost and it started a forest fire.
>>580004398Fuck
>>579987648idolM@ster duh
>>579987648Girls und Panzer
>>579987648Nuclear Option.
>>579987648Hot Shots
>>579930860no ideas? anyone?
>>579930860>>580012247Regalecus.>regal, used by VIPs>long as heck>portent of doom>deep-sea fish analogous with high-altitude aircraft
Pull up and dodge
>>579987648Yukikaze
>same shitty and boring destruction missions but 19 timesWith do boomers and uncs pretend 04 the best game in the series? embarrassing
>>579987648what do you think?
>>580017793cute
>>579933267oh no the level 4 F-22 has 200 missiles vs level 3 with 190 save me kono. from what the trailer showed it's just missile and gun capacity it'll be fine.
>>579926603Spoilers AC8 First mission gameplayhttps://youtu.be/XBVOTXMreJ4?is=YD7CG84bA95JXHZ2
>>580022258well at least it isn’t a bomber intercept
>>580010789kusoge
>>580017404gimmick missions suck there’s a reason why score attack missions get the most replays in 7
>>580024131gimmick missions are palate cleansers in between score attack missions
>>580022258This dude fucking sucks at AC. I think it's interesting the A-50's have multiple target boxes so I guess you hit the engines directly.
>>580024319>multiple target boxesAll the better to make the multilock A2A specials even less viable. Now instead of firing two 6AAMs to kill one big plane from a distance and then slinging the other four at some fighters, you can immediately waste your whole salvo.
PA hates the Viggen and Draken.
>>580013613interesting, very well thought
Crimson 1 is really annoying, they tried too hard to emulate Pixy during the final mission
>>580026141>>/pwg/
>>580024319As far as the footage shows the demo doesn't even give you the option of expert controls (it's probably there but hidden in a menu) so not surprising he sucks shit, most people suck when they can't turn for shit.
>>580022258It looks nice
>>580026141<< Predictable. >>Yeah Crimson One a shit. He gets downed too often to be a credible threat, talks too much shit when the hardest parts of his fights are his squad size/superweapon spam, and spends most of his time malding/projecting instead of actually being interesting.And suckers paid like $60k for FAN to write an "audioplay" despite that.
>>580022258BTW if people are worried about spoilers there really isn't anything of note here unless you haven't seen any of the previous gameplay the only big reveals are:1. Cope is schizo-talking to you from the very beginning2. San Salvacion got taken over by separatists who allied with Sotoa the same as newfield island
>>580027554You got #2 wrong. They originate from somewhere in the FCU, not SS.
>>580024697Yeah I think they do. I need to do my second singular aircraft run with the j35 draken in Zero. My first run was the cheesy MiG-21 gun pod run in 7.
I heard there was going to be a new VKB stick coming along with AC8, is it true?
>>580036081lol nothere's a new Hori flight stick and a branded version of the cheap thrustmaster HOTAS
>>580036081>>580036319Playing Ace Combat with an actual joystick seems pretty silly, since its designed around the gamepad first. Will I be rewarded with a transcendental experience if I go through the trouble of making my 90's D-input stick work through vjoy?
>>579987648Gundam.
>>579987648pokemon
>>580026141the more I think about it the more FL59 really does rescue my opinion of PW, at least when it comes to characters/story/etc
>>580001976>>r/baldGo back.
>>580037417Not really. Ace Combat doesn't give you that same tingly feeling that DCS does for lining up a clean shot on a maneuvering target, it's way more about doing macross bullshit on hordes of targets.
>>579947551Hollywood Hogan approved
>>579987648Strike Witches
>>580026141I unironically like Crimson 1, it's a bold choice to make your final boss canonically retarded. I don't give a shit about what the story was trying to say about him from a thematic standpoint, he's a seething moron from minute 1 and I love it. Hell PW takes the secret option for war stories, instead of war being le bad or le good, war is fucking stupid and the people making the decision to go to war all eat glue.>>580041295It's definitely a quality piece of DLC. Obviously we're never gonna find out about what exactly happened in Oceania, and that's probably for the best, but what we do know is bad enough that it sowed the seeds for Cascadia's rebellion. Also the invasion of Magadan was probably what pushed the Federation to fire Cordium nukes in the first place. Flawed as it is I do ultimately like PW and the world it takes place in.
I'm replaying PW right now, I forgot how most voice acting has the same quality as the voice acting from some shitty skyrim quest mod
>>580047653Because most of the voicework was done by random Aussies they pulled off the street. Dip and Galaxy are pretty good though. Still a lot better than the voice acting in Vector Thrust for what it's worth.
>>580047653>>580048619Frontline 59 has a noticeable jump in VA quality, guess they had more money to hire more experienced VAs. K-9's VAs are all pretty good, especially Eye Tee. Faust is pretty good. I swear the Federation commander from mission 5 is Sky Eye's VA but I might be wrong. The handful of returning characters like Stardust and Captain Woodward also sound a bit better too.
>>580046963>I unironically like Crimson 1, it's a bold choice to make your final boss canonically retarded. I don't give a shit about what the story was trying to say about him from a thematic standpointYeah, both C1 and Mihaly are doing the same thing meta-narratively and it's really not that interesting. Basically: "WARS WILL NEVER END BECAUSE YOU WANT TO PLAY A COOL JET GAME AND COOL JET GAME CAN ONLY EXIST IF WE CREATE MORE WARS FOR YOU TO FLY COOL JETS IN!! YOU MONSTER!!"Crimson is at least funny(presented as as seething retard) while Mihaly is basically a wojak that the devs are shoving in your face and saying "heh, this is totally you".Also it helps that Crimson is fun to fight because he doesn't fucking cheat. Even when he has a super OP superplane in "Kings" you can shoot him down before he can finish his dialogue if you have enough dakka(MGPs melt his healthbar). There's no plot armour or special trigger to ensure he gets to finish his yapping before moving onto the next phase, unlike with Mihaly. Same thing is true for the fight in M18, you can actually make him shut up by shooting him down.
>>580047653It's funny how Kaiser has objectively the best VA in the base game.>>580046963>>580053136I'd argue that the story actually benefits from C1 being a retard, it's like they distilled every in-universe Fed propaganda piece into a single hypocrite. There simply isn't a better way to portray a faction as evil than to make your nemesis embody every single principle the faction stands for.
>>580053136>while Mihaly is basically a wojak that the devs are shoving in your face and saying "heh, this is totally you".Sunao is a bad writer, but he's not as bad as FAN, who did exactly that with Crimson.
>>580048619>Still a lot better than the voice acting in Vector Thrust for what it's worth.Yes but consider the following:cute freckled redhead wingman(too bad the game was abandoned and left to rot)
>>580047653I'm glad they got a decent VA for Prez at least
>>580053136mihaly is not a rhetorical device that acts as a stand in for the player, there is no metanarrative in 7 about le videogames causing le war
>>580053728>Sunao is a bad writer, but he's not as bad as FAN, who did exactly that with Crimson.He literally didn't. Crimson is not supposed to be (you), Monarch is. Monarch is the one jumping from war to war, not giving a fuck who he flies for as long as he gets to fly cool jets. Mihaly is a caricature of (you) – he doesn't really care about nations, sides, or why he fights, he just wants to keep flying cool jets. Crimson 1 is a response to (you) – he cares a lot about his country, laws, and why he fights and is appalled by (you) not giving a shit as long as you get to fly cool jets. >>580054012He absolutely is and I imagine Katabuchi was feeling extremely clever when he wrote him. Half his lines only make sense as a player stand-in, like "There are pilots like you in every generation and I've felled every last one of them".PS: Cope and seethe
>>580054256Fuck off, FAN, don't you have artists to scam?
>>579942950JOIN THE -ACK
You guys reckon AC8 will be shareable through steam family like AC7?
I hope they make the game harder.
>>580057710aren't all steam games shareable
>>580058856Some devs like Bohemia opt out of that feature IIRC
>>580058856Some developers get exceptions. Red Dead Redemption 2 isn't shareable. Being loaded with denuvo and EAC is a potential warning sign.
>post yfw electrosphere mission in ac8 online
Liberation of Gracemeria with /aceg/
>>580047653>PW VAs are badliterally just Master Goose One and a couple other throwaways
>>580053584Except FAN thinks the Feds are the lesser of three evils (Cascadians and Mercs) somehow.
>>580067841>Yes, my name is Kyle, how could you tell?
Every day that passes I'm tempted to drop a ridiculous amount of money on a current PC just to develop my own plane game.
>>580022258The idea of a balkanized FCU where you'll have to fight off splinter states on top of Sotoa is pretty interesting, hopefully they don't drop it
>>580063252The only good part of electrosphere is that it's nice they got the shit ideas out of the way back when games took 3 months to develop because that means PA will never again be tempted to try something as retarded again now that they take a lifetime.
>>580070116Reminde me of AC7 when all the countries that Eurasia took over started to rise up after mission 15. Always thought that would be cool for a whole game to fight these splinter groups to try to restore order on the continent. If it's like a realization of that for an entire game then 8s gonna be rad as fuck.
>>580070116>>580074373It’s PA’s excuse to keep the Mig21bis in game.
*hits you with a SASM* im sorry, i know you were dogfighting that guy it's just *hits you with a SASM* we're all trying to get points here, and i just *hits you with a SASM* happened to notice you were pretty low on airspeed after that PSM, and *hits you with a SASM* im using a mid-tier multirole, and you know i can't help myself. *hits you with a SASM* god this is so embarrassing... *hits you with a SASM*
>>580079105Can we get an f-35 without that stupid gunpod?
>>580079946The F-35 doesn't have an internal gun so it's either no guns or gunpod.
>>580079864What seems to be the problem?
>>580080073You sure 'bout that?God I hate the n*vy
>>580080080this is what i sound like. AC Online will be nothing but this for everyone in my lobbies
>>580080282Pretty sure we're not getting the F-35A or F-35B. AC doesn't really do playable VTOL and since this is a game based around a carrier we're probably getting the C. So that means no internal gun for you.
>>580080308>>580079864>F4E loses SASM for HVAA>F16 is unaccounted for >F15C loadout is unknown it won’t be so bad this time, probably
>>580084691>F-16 is unaccounted forF-16 gets QAAMs now.
>>580087217fuck that’s the real issue, seems like a ton of jets are getting QAAMs this time around
>>580087467But that's a good thing. QAAMs are the kind of weapon that's really useful for your wingmen but rarely the best choice for the player(but also never outright bad).
South Korean roundel looks straight out of AC.
>>580087724sorry I meant in the context of MP/COOP Sticking all of Joker in Su33s will be even better now that it has QAAM and RKT.
>>580090683Putting them all in Prowlers/Growlers will probably be the optimal strategy. I'm not convinced they'll be much better than 5's wingmen in actually killing things, no matter what weapon they're using, so may as well have them just buff you instead.
>>580050581Isn't Faust 2B's English VA or something? That Sony cash definitely allowed them to get some higher profile voices.
>>580091059>I'm not convinced they'll be much better than 5's wingmen in actually killing thingsWhy not? 1 guy in a gooncave figured it out, Project Wingman's NPCs are not only good enough to kill things but they'll actively steal your kills if you're not careful. >>580090683I guess? QAAMs are the kind of weapon that's kinda shitty to use because they're not that powerful, kinda shitty to play against because they're really annoying, and kinda shitty to have on your team in co-op because you'd rather have something with more outright power. Still, better than having to tolerate EMLniggers every fucking lobby.
>>580066072Unfortunately the Fed propaganda in Frontline 59 worked on me so I firmly believe in Total Cascadian Death. Although I think the real reason they're afraid of the mercs isn't because they're worse than either Cascadia or the Federation, more just because they have the potential to upend the world order even more than the rebellion did. I don't really get the impression that our Sicario idiots are these secret evil masterminds who kick puppies for fun, it's more like they got dragged into a war because Kaiser's a gloryhound and got in way over their heads.>>580069574Me too, except I have no dev skills and I want to make Ace Combat for helicopters. Yes, there would be a mission where you have to fight off a flight of F-16s. Genuinely surprised AH didn't do that for one of the helo levels, closest it got was that you could optionally shoot down Frogfoots in the Moscow level.>>580091619Yeah she is.
>>580093938If they are too good, that's all the more reason to put them in the jammers so they don't just play the game for you. I don't think that will be the case though, some of the demo footage we have has dialogue of them running low on special weapons, but I don't see as many things getting killed as such judicious usage would imply. Maybe they are killing things and I'm a blind retard, but it sure would be nice if we could tell for sure by having the little kill notifications pop up on the HUD like they do in 5, 0, and 6. Either way, active ESM/ESM usage is much more noticeable and impactful, so for practical purposes, I can't imagine there'll be much point in putting them in anything besides the jammers.
>>580096152*ESM/ECM usage, damn, I am a blind retard, I proofread that post like three times.
>>580096152I think a 3:1 - 4:1 ratio of player kills to ally kills would be healthy for this type of game as it's enough to show that allies ~do things~ while not really playing the game for you. Time limits generally do a decent job of balancing allies as you can't just wait for them to slowly kill everything. They also give you an incentive to equip your allies with non-ECM weapons. If ranks are based on speed as well as score(like they were in AC7) then having your allies kill the occasional target that would've taken you 30 seconds to reach and shoot down is a good enough reason to give them QAAMs/LAAMs/LASMs/LAGMs instead of just ECM/ESM.
>>580095207FAN hates Sicario (and mercs generally) because they kill for profit. He’s made it pretty clear on his twitter that his morality preference is Feds <— Chudcadians <——- Mercs on purely anti-capitalist terms.
>>580097676How reliably will they actually hit things, assuming they bother to use their special weapons at all instead of randomly deciding to go fly in circles around what they're targeting instead of killing it? The fact we have three wingmen again makes me think they're going to have the same problem 5's have in being allowed to kill things but only every once in a while. Pixy and Shamrock were a lot more reliable, but there's only one of them, and in Shamrock's game in particular, there's always a fuckton of shit to kill. Given the option of trying to send 8's wingmen to maybe kill something off in the distance every so often or just having them be your EW bitches so you can kill everything yourself with buffed missiles, that won't be much contest in 99% of cases. We won't know for sure how exactly ESM works until we get our hands on the game ourselves (unless one of the influencers that got to try some of the missions has talked about it and I missed it), but I think odds are good the Prowler and Growler will be the best wingman planes by far.
>>580099421You only need 1 ESM slave(ECM is for bitches, just dodge missiles lmao). The rest of the squadron can be equipped with missiles that can kill things. Even if they can't go off on their own they can still fire the occasional SAAM/LAAM/LAGM/whatever and kill a target while your own missiles are reloading, which saves times since you won't need to do an extra pass. Depending on how their AI works it might be better to equip your wingmen with A2G missiles since those will basically never miss.
>>580066072>>580099019A Frenchman wrote an essay in 1967 that argued that any interpretation of a work supported by the text itself is just as valid as the author's own canon. Ironically he later claimed that his work was misinterpreted but nobody cared since they were using their own interpretation fully supported by the actual text.You shouldn't give a fuck about what FAN thinks if it's not actually in the game
>>579987648I would want Area 88 again
>>580100080>spoilerTrue. That's what death of the author is really about anyways.
I'm a complete retard and cannot find the ACI files to play online<< Please Help >>
>>579987648Area 88, obviously
>>580105919playstation has a zeus.dl cdn that you can get the files for the game from, i just google dorked around for it
Gripens are ugly
>>580099719>(ECM is for bitches, just dodge missiles lmao).even then, one of the new features kono was keen on emphasizing is that asking your wingmen to cover your rear is now actually useful since they too have chaff/flares and can thus distract the enemy so you can get a better position
>>580109709how DARE you
>>580109709ur wrong but that’s ok
>>580109709euro jets suck but not because of their designs
>>580109709/y/ is down the hall, and to the left
>>580109709there isn’t a single post-3rd gen jet that’s objectively uglyform is function
>>580109709all the euro doritos look like shit except the rafale
>>580109709trueplanes should always have two engines
>>580112950I like the Mirage 2000...
>>580112950It's a shame the SACS never got a proper squadron intro
Draken < Griphen < Mirage < Rafale < Viggen <<< [Powergap] <<< Typhoon
>>580113810it is my dubious honor to present:Fat Gripen
>>580117551Thanks i hate it
>>580117551Has potential if the intakes and body were slimmed down a bit desu
>>580066072At the start of the game the Cascadians are in the right, and the Feds need to fuck off, but by the end of it the Feds are the best option available. The Cascadians have sold their country to the Mercs, and with their newfound power the Mercs will grow to be something much, much worse than the Federation ever was, I am sure of this.
does the Strike Raptor count as a dorito
>>580121873yeah
>>580117551American planes when their DNA data harvesting scam test results show they're .0135% Swedish>>580121873I feel like I should buy the DLC for my Doriro only run since I only ever got the plane DLC for the missions
space is the place
>>580080450ACI started with F-35B but then added an F-35A in an update years later when they were running out of ideas on planes to add. I choose to believe they'll do the same thing here (live service!!!) because I don't like the specials the C gets so it could fix that.If it has gun delay I'm going to murder someone.
>>580128974Hoping any new craft they add to ACO gets a Joker skin and is playable in the campaign.
some chingchong site has leaked higher quality pics of the AC8 fictional fighter. if your someone whos very anal about spoilers I would not click on this pic.
>>580134714
Thoughts?https://youtu.be/DMbUKvV7cqc?si=p1tVYmON0DdaggPq
>>580134714>>580134867it looks like if the X-02 Wyvern and the X-36 had a baby
ac infinity multiplayer got dmca'd
>>580135056very clean design, a lot cooler than the fat fuck raven
>>580134714flat
are Sukhois overpowered in this franchise?
>>580134714>>580134867Pre-COFFIN XFA-36, makes sense.
>>580135156"At the event where the aircraft was first revealed, Brand Director Kazutoki Kono stated, "Fans who played previous titles will likely find the nickname 'Game' familiar." This is because a fictional aircraft named 'XFA-36A' appeared in 'ACE COMBAT 3 electrosphere', released in 1999. That aircraft's nickname was also Game, sharing the same characteristics such as a tailless design and 3D thrust vectoring
>>580134714>>580134867>>580135056the "three thrust-vectoring paddles arranged in a triangle" setup also reminds me of the XFA-24A Apalis from ACXthe X-31 had the same thing in real life, too, but the shape of them is almost exactly like the ones on the Apalis
>>580136091read>>580135912
>>580135912this still doesn't explain the other plane we saw with the 4 hardpoints in the earlier leak[, or i might just be retarded and it's the same plane with another SPW/spoiler]
>>580136816nah that one is also a different design, the cockpit area is completely different, different dihedral on the wings too, also no space for that ventral podded railgun
>>580136939This just looks like the Raven with a normal cockpit
I suspect that these aircraft aren't the SUPER planes. They're advanced, sure, but appear to be very much conventional.
>>580142807nah nowhere near alike
It’s gonna be funny if the F-47 ends up looking very similar to one of these because PA made a speculative X-36 way back when while Phantomworks would be iterating on the work they did in the 90s
The game
>>580134714I wonder if the game is gonna have a not-F47
>>580154437Would a land battleship be able to take down an arsenal bird by itself without assistance?
>>580154913Aren't its main guns railguns? They might not be big mofos like stonehenge but it has multiple of them and if they have enough elevation the birb is just a big slow target for the battleship ironically enough
>>580109709eurofighter=mirage 2000>gripen>rafalerafale is abominable
>>580109709Draken>>>>>>>>>>mirage 2000>gripen>rafale>urofighter Eurofighter and rafale are abominable
>>580134714>>580134867Looks stupid and I shan't be flying it.
>The story of 'Ace Combat 8' is linear, but I want to say that it boasts a larger volume than 'ACE COMBAT 3 electrosphere' in many ways. It includes a higher number of campaign missions, cutscenes, cinematics, and various other content.>includes a higher number of campaign missionshttps://www.invenglobal.com/articles/25646/kazutoki-kono-ace-combat-8-will-have-the-largest-scale-in-franchise-historySurely this is a mistranslation, no way AC8 has more than 52 missions.
>>580109709Them's fightin words, mate.
>>580155575Couldn't the MQ-101 swarms destroy the land battleship before it even gets to see the Arsenal bird?I know it has quadcopter drone swarms for defence but I'm not sure how well those would hold up against like 50 MQ-101s.
>>580158467A lot of people can't seem to believe it either. I think most of those went into the cutscenes while the actual mission count is over 30.Boy I sure wish I'm wrong.
I should probably stay away from the thread until release.
>>580160083I'm 95% sure the game will not have 52 or more flyable missions. But counting cutscenes where you walk around the ship seems weird since then you could also count all the zoom calls in Electrosphere as cutscenes and you'd still need 52 missions(assuming that you get 1 cutscene after every mission). Or maybe Kono's getting a bit senile in his old age and counted the International version's 36 missions(having 37+ missions in AC8 would also be insane but I find that slightly more believable).
>>580159285A MQ-101 swarm might work if they are armed with anti ship missiles to overwhelm the ship's point defenses but we never really see them armed with those and we don't know how the landship's strangerealnium armor performs, it might be protected enough against a generic air launched ashm like the harpoonThe arsenal bird could maybe damage it with its ventral laser but would need to go over the horizon to hit it and would be well within railgun rangeI think the AB is more of an absolute air superiority superweapon kind of thing and is just not really equipped for that kinda of job
>>580161975Erusea used drone attacks to sink basically every aircraft carrier Osea had almost as soon as the war started, surely they were carrying some kind of air to sea missile.
>>580135912>Those SP weapons Bummer.
>>580163061Oh shit I forgot that happens. Then it really comes down to if the landship's drones, AA and armor can take the drone swarm.
>>580158467>>580160515Let me provide some additional clarification regarding the recent interview in Shanghai.When I mentioned that Ace Combat 8 features "the largest-scale campaign in the series," the "scale" here doesn't just refer to a comparison of the number of missions.ACE8 has a linear campaign structure, but it's packed to the brim with a wealth of missions, cutscenes, cinematics, and various other elements.I was referring to the overall volume and experience of the campaign, including all of those aspects, as "the largest scale in the series."Some parts of the explanation may have been a bit hard to convey, so let me supplement it once more.The campaign for ACE COMBAT 8: WINGS OF THEVE has received quite a lot of our focus and effort. Please look forward to ithttps://x.com/kazutoki/status/2096932045079318622
>>580163672>armor can take the drone swarmPretty sure it can, otherwise they wouldn't be using jihadist trucks.
>>580163825It was already said to have double what AC7 has about a month ago. That would put the mission count at about 40. That sounds a bit more realistic than 50.
>>580158467Is this the first time that they've confirmed that the story structure is linear?
>>580163672A classic carrier vs battleship matchup. If the battleship can get in range it wins, otherwise the carrier's air wing sinks it before it can even find the carrier. >>580163825Thanks buddy, that makes more sense. So it was definitely a mistranslation. Honestly I would be a bit disappointed if the final mission count is around 25, satisfied if it's around 27-30, and very happy if it's 32+.>>580164069I think low-mid 30s is more realistic. "Double what AC7 has" could just mean it has roughly double the content which you could achieve by just making more "big" missions without doubling the total mission count(since AC7 has quite a few short missions). If the campaign is like 5 short missions that act as semi-tutorials, 5 short gimmick missions, 20 big meaty missions, and 2 giant missions to cap it all off it would be double the content of AC7, if not more than double.
Is simply telling us how many campaign missions there are some sort of taboo spoiler?With less than a month to go, why can't they just say how much it has?
>>580164415>Is simply telling us how many campaign missions there are some sort of taboo spoiler?Yes, some people would consider that a spoiler. I think experiencing the campaign for the first time without knowing the mission count is generally a better experience and makes you more excited about big developments(because you don't know whether they will be resolved in 3 missions or 10).
>>580158467>The story of 'Ace Combat 8' is linear, but I want to say that it boasts a larger volume than 'ACE COMBAT 3 electrosphere' in many ways. It includes a higher number of campaign missions, cutscenes, cinematics, and various other contentwhat if it's linear to a certain point? Like 30-35 missions that everyone experiences on their first playthrough, but branches the next 3-5 depending on what you do/choose in game?
well the superplane vid confirms that you can mess with the third-person camera’s distance from the aircraft in settings
>sir we can’t paint on the tail art >why?>sir there’s no tail >……>just paint it on the side of the upper nacelles >yessir
>>580165714Would be cool but I doubt it. At most we'll get a few alternate missions like in AC5. Final missions are usually the highlight of the game, letting players miss out on them depending on their choices woupd be insane.
Over 100 missions confirmed It's time
https://x.com/milkalade/status/2096863055863017962https://x.com/Fighterman_FFRC/status/2096949778647228491well that would be one way to get around it
>>580174782No it’s fine, I just didn’t think the Game would come back Chinese.
>>580143628Considering PA just up and posted it on twitter, maybe you're right. Maybe it is just a high tier plane.
>>580174782That intake blister is also on the Strike Raptor, tbf.
>>580143628This one is the "fictional but conventional" aircraft. It's a fictional design, but nothing about it is really "exotic". We don't know what the third SP weapon is. But considering the two we saw, but it'll probably be a regular weapon. The other one we saw at Gamescom, is likely the new "super fighter" with the crazy scifi weapons. It's already suspected of having the EML.
It might not be an X plane, but I'll take a 3 plane just as well.
>>580176054Makes sense. They finally got tired of the F-22 being the highest end "normal" plane 20 games in a row so they're replacing it with fictional designs.We might even see a Coffin-less delphinius fulfilling the same role on the other side of the Aircraft tree(I'm assuming the FA-36 will be on the American side of the tree since those jets are associated with General Resource in AC3).
WaitThe FA-36 is an Ace Combat 3 original. It was just called the XFA-36A Game back then
>>580178458Yes, anon.
>>580178458Yeah? That's the idea.
a million mission campaign could mean a fuckton of awful gimmick missions or a fuckton of awful "get a trillion points in 10 minutes" missionsac8 confirmed turd
>>580178895
>>580178458My high school chemistry professor would respond with "I'm waitin'" (gay-tinged Southern drawl).He trained this habit of saying 'wait' out of a hyperactive classmate.
>>580178458Its more of a manned, upscaled X-36. The XFA is the tuned up GR special
>>580178927Score attack missions are good and the most repayable missions in the series.
>>580180303They need to be well designed though. If they're all like the AC7 score attack missions where you run out of enemies with half the timer left then that sucks.I guess saying missions should be well designed is a pretty obvious statement but seriously fuck AC7's score attack missions, just end the mission once I've killed everything instead of wasting my time with nothing but two respawning planes for several minutes.
>>580180878You serious bro? Both Long Day and Fleet Destruction have more than enough enemies to last you for most of the mission and you're almost certainly not going to full clear them on your first run. They're some of the best missions in AC7.Farbanti is the only one that has this problem.
>>580135912Ohhhhhhhhhh man this is a shot of hopium. It might not be an X OC but I really hope the higher end planes aren't just limited to the F22 or Su57 because that's all we have IRL.
>>580180303they're not replayable because they're boring
>>580148173I just lost the game
>>580174782What's next on the AC3 returnee list?
>>580181590I don't think they have enough enemies and I did full clear them on my first run, but even if they did and I didn't, they should still end when you kill everything. The respawning plane farm is not fun. Just end it.I played ACI a lot so I got pretty good at efficiently clearing maps I guess.
>>580181621We probably end up getting western 6th generations in a couple years when they start getting shown off publicly. F-47 is targeting a 2028 first flight, and it’s possible it gets shown off beforehand like B-21. GCAP is a ways out but the British demonstrator for it is supposed to fly by late next year. I’d imagine they shouldn’t have too much licensing trouble so they probably make it in as dlc of some sort in a couple years.
>>580182284x-32reminder that in a few years in the strangereal timeline, all f-35 will disappear and be replaced by the 32
>>580181590>Farbanti Are you doing these runs on Ace? The Erusean high command alone has like 3 varied stages, followed by endless air tgt spawns that end in the final 60s.
When we inevitably get it, will they call it Aigaion or Moby Dick?
>hmm i wonder what the ace combat general has to say about 8>mostly miserable faggotsI'm not sure why I expected anything else.
>>580182290It's not a matter of skill, you just don't have the ammo for Long Day on a first run. Especially because nothing in the early part of the aircraft tree has UGBs so you're stuck with either the godawful GPBs or the merely ~okay LAGMs.
>>580188604I'm excited, you just focus on the bad
>>580184572>Are you doing these runs on AceYeah.LAAMs are a hell of a drug. Especially if you can swap them out for LASMs to deal with the ships then go back to LAAMs for the air targets.
>>580188604my only real issue with the game is a gripe about how the roster is mostly the same as 7si wanted more plens
>>580189135on dlc later I assumeincluding everyone's beloved Harrier lmao
>>580188604I don't know about other people but I am looking forward to playing 8 in the mid-late 2030s once I can finally afford a PC capable of running it.
>>580189359>mickey mouse f-15j is in the game but not the f-117, mig-144, su-24 or j-20
>>580189824I'd rather have even older ones and see how they perform on mission
>>580189824>mig-1.44Really nigga? You have a point with the other planes but this shit doesn't even exist. At least the F-15J is a production model.
>>580190232if that were the case then the su-47 and yf-23 would've been removed a long time ago
>>580190232Where is it written that only mass produced planes are allowed?
>>580188604What do you mean? everyone is just discussing the game
>>580190495I mean if you're going to complain about mickey mouse planes then yeah, they should remove those too.
Who cares about the F-15J or the F-2, they only include them to rally support for their depressing armed forces.
>>580190683the f-20 and x-29 were mainstates of the early gamessome of them even included the s-32 which was rough sketch of a su-47 a soviet officer wrote on a napkin in 1980s
The final mission of ACAH is actually thematic/aesthetic kino. If only it was part of a better game with better mechanics.
assualt horizon would be more fondly rememberd if it was a strangereal game
Ace Combat Zero with PCSX2 Retro Achievements:(Ace Combat Zero with Steam Achievements:D
>>580193935I think you need to have a different strain of autism from most planebros to care about achievements in the first place.
>>580194042100% is a must otherwise I don't deserve the next game they publish.
>>580193885nah the mechanics are the issue, not the setting
>>580135056What's the third SPW
>>580194319i'm not saying it would suddnely be a good game if the story took place in verusa and the villain was yuketobaniabut it would've had a more graceful reception if it didn't try to copy a modern warfare story
>>580193935That's exactly how it works anon, yes.Personally I also find RetroAchievements dumb because it's just random gaymers deciding what counts as a cheevo, whereas Steam/Xbox/PlayStation cheevos and in-game trophies come from what the game's designers thought counted.
>>580178458holy SHIT were gonna go into the electrosphere (eventually) confirmed
>>580193935RetroAchievements are made by troonsSteam achievements are made by the real devshope that clears it up for you
>>580193935i literally cannot imagine caring about achievements
my guess is that the next major title will be a remake 3 in a way that better fits all the project aces games, because the current electrosphere is like 60% compatible and with a handful of concessions
>>580212905>watch now as the make prepared to mount the female
>>580191027At least the nips can still build large surface combatants for their navy, unlike the USN. Nor is their leadership self-sabotaging their procurement by sanctioning their own allies.
>>580214546The F-5 is the male, and the F-15 is the female
Wtf this isnt in the original lore
>>580212905Big girl+smol girl is patrician
>>580215995Based
In case anyone cares, one of the servers for the Infinity revival got DMCA'd. The primary OEL server is still up but the AeroServer alternative is what got clapped on github.
>>580217674>fighting cockhahaha gayme
>>580218672Why?
>>580217674>>580218808>gay combat: shattered anuses
>>580219358According to the announcement in the Discord they have no fucking idea why it happened. They don't take donations or distribute game files so it seems frivilous to them
Here come the roughest 20 days of my life.
I did not care for ace combat 3, highly overrated game
>>580222140Based and true. Needs a remake.
since every plane in 3 was fictitious, would a hypothetical remake/reimagining need to go through the copyright hassle?
>>580222140It's a mediocre game for pretentious niggers who praise anything vaguely resembling Ghost in the Shell to hell and back.
the space mission is highly overrated, the stratosphere one was far better in every regard, visually, gameplay and even music
>>580189135They have the A-6 and the Su-25, I’m pretty happy with those desu. The only really said non-inclusion imo is the J-20 and other Chinese jets, but Japan-China relations at least explain why that didn’t happen (and sadly probably never will).
>>580223182I would guess so, a Typhoon II or Eagle+ still are a Typhoon and Eagle.
>>580223940>said*sad non-inclusionWhy do I even try phoneposting?
>>580222140trvthnvke
>>580222140that's fine at least you don't like 5
Replaying 4. Jesus Christ, dog fighting on higher difficulties is ridiculous. Enemies stay glued to your ass or change direction right when you fire a missile. You work so hard to get nose on only for the enemy to move at light speed to dodge. Seems like the best method for using missiles is firing them from extreme long range.
>>580189135the inclusion of the Game gives me hope that there's more juicy OCs they haven't shown yet
>>580224856Id hope they include the game in the game otherwise how am i gonna play it?
>>580225054>trying to pretend you bought physical
>>580222140I think it's conceptually neat but I cannot stand by it having it linked to the current AC timeline, because it means that as the IRL timeline advances we end up having Strangereal ticking towards becoming a dime-a-dozen cyberpunk setting with boring-ass corporate warfare.
>>580225679ac3 is beloved because it isnt a dime a dozen le synthwave neon katakana black trenchcoat circlejerk
i wonder if the Strike Wyvern will come back
>>580225867Hopefully not because it's so ugly. Bring back the original one or fuck off
the belkans had to show up and fixed eruseas air force that was managed by cavemen
I want the Hawk to come back. Or for a new fictional plane to fulfill its role of cheap, tiny, and unreasonably maneuverable. I guess the overtuned MiG-21 and QAAM F-16 might come close but it's just not the same.
>>580224816That actually is the preferred strategy on Ace. Keep your speed up and as they maneuver, mimic their direction and come back around. A 270 degree intercept with a loop in it. Or just fly defensively and rely on the gun for close ups, the AI will eventually straighten out and give you a couple seconds.
I aint fraid of no leaks, how much got leaked and how many threads back do i have to look?or is it just the no coffin game and mystery nigga?
>>580227298No coffin game already unleaked as it was shown by the devs themselves a couple of hours later.
>>580227434So just the mystery nigga unaccounted for then?
I hope we get at least new 4 fictional planes, they need some new high tier bullshit for once. The time line is already advanced enough for that.
>>580227692theres two mystery planes actually, tasha and professor in that one leaked clip are flying different aircraft, although with similiar design characteristics
>>580227692Bring me the fucking Apalis, "ordinary" fictional plane
>>580224708that’s true, it was fun the first time but gigacancer to replay
>>580222140The only good ACs are 0 and 7.
DSIs on an intake with a swept back leading edge kind of dont make sense tee bee aitch
Fuller resNot the biggest fan of flat jets but these new models are clean
>>580229271Isn't it a stealth thing or were they just trying to copy J20 elements
What's the pre purchase stuff cut off date again on steam? Was gonna pre-order (I know I know, dont worry) to get it all, then wait a few days into release to see if it's a shitshow or not so I can refund if need be.
>>580229514Seeing as PA posted the Game on their X page, is it reasonable or expect more posts about the fictional aircraft?I've been wondering how they'll continue to market the game till launch.
>>580229859Maybe but it's like Monster Hunter showing off flagships is one thing but they won't give away the final boss.
>>580229762No, its an aerodynamics thing, all DSIs in real life have swept forward intake leading edges to force the boundary layer airflow away from the inlet, which compresses the airflow to subsonic speeds for static air pressure feed into the engines
>>580229514doing a side by sideand yeah it looks the part, im guessing the "A" in Game is for the coffin system
>>580227692the fact they’re revealing the Game this early is a good sign that more high-to-super tier OC planes are coming
>>580231126When they were marketing 7 didn't they show off the Strike Wyvern but not the Raven?
>>580231603no, the strike wyvern didnt show up in any prerelease materials, it only got found out because kotobukiya posted a silhouette of a Wyvern that didnt line up with the X-02Athe raven itself didnt get teased either, it only briefly showed up with the cockpit drone unit doing a half second flyby of the elevator in one of the trailers.
>>580229514The lack of OCs was my last cope. Now I just have to accept that I can't run it despite wanting to.
>>580233387specs?
>>580233387rev up that OnlyFans, anonthere’s still time
>>5802335381660 Super>>580233574My friends always told me I have the body and style to be a sex worker. Question is what I love more, my asshole or Ace Combat.
https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/25646/kazutoki-kono-ace-combat-8-has-the-largest-scale-in-franchise-history"Personally, I'm on Team Kate Evans, so I didn't expect Tasha to become this popular worldwide.Work on Tasha started relatively early, and she was originally designed by a different artist. She is also the character that took the longest to finalize. Her story and direction were already set, but we kept modifying various aspects afterward, making her the character we refined the longest during development. That's why inside the development team, we jokingly call her 'the most expensive character.' (Laughs)""I think elements like her personality, outfit, and especially her sense of fashion in wearing military attire so uniquely happened to fit current trends well, which contributed to all the attention she received.">Kono is an onee-san enjoyerzased...so fvcking zased
>>580234002the FCU is calling on you to servewill you answer?
>>580234732>pic Did Tasha get bullied into singing offkey karaoke by the deck crew? Is it actually happening?
>>580234995don't care about the FCUI'm here to kill Sotoans and fuck Tasha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XKGN0O8egYthe electric guitar in this gives a very assault horizon esque flavour to the track
>>580026141He's just an inversion of Pixy circa his World with No Boundaries Arc. Instead of no borders, borders for all! Heh, it's commentary on a game series I like but always shit on, silly gamer. C1 was at least fun to fight against and Dip going "shut the fuck up you stupid asshole." was funny. It's been a long while since I played PW. Never played the expansion. Been slowly going through 7 again.
>>580095207Helicopter AC would be neat. AH was overall bad but I do appreciate them at least experimenting with helicopters and bombers, even if the rosters for them were tiny. I only remember the B-1 and B-2 for the bombers and the Apache and the Hind for the copters. Why not a Havoc/Cobra/Eurocopter/Mangusta/etcetcetc
>sparing Fi and siding with Erich puts you in the Neucom pathWell fuck, that's not what I was hoping for. Park just seemed like an asshole and Erich and Fi have been the only ones to treat Nemo as a friend.
>>580095207>>580241606>Ace Combat for helicoptersMy dream is to have a continuation of the Strike series but turn it into a proper helicopter Ace Combat game. Also adding fictional helicopters from stuff like Mamoru Oshii movies or stuff from Airwolf and Blue Thunder.
>>580242253A Hellhound would be fantastic
https://x.com/PROJECT_ACES/status/2097157997734617217The arcade game selection in the host lobby will seemingly rotate each season to include more Namco arcade titles.
>>580236324I hear what you’re hearing. Wonder if this is the MP motif or ripped from an SP mission.
>>580241606>>580242253>>580242827There's a lot you could add to a roster while also having ways to differentiate them, fictional and otherwise. I'd love to have the Combine helicopter from Half Life 2 in one because it's design is sick. And you could have sci-fi VTOL gunships as the super helos too. The problem I have when I'm brainstorming what it'd look like is how to structure it. Most helos can't refuel midflight but they can usually land on carriers. Maybe a land carrier thing could work. Helos just don't have the range fight jets do. But you could always imply that your team moves from base to base between missions. There's a game called Operation Thunderstrike that has you fly a fictional super helicopter and it has a pretty good variety of missions. Been meaning to replay it.God I fucking hate being an ideas guy sometimes, none of the stuff I come up with in my head's ever gonna see the light of day. I tried picking up Blender again but I just lost interest quickly. Maybe if I ever win the lottery or start making fuck you money from a job I'll just fund a whole ass game studio and tell people what to make with the caveat that I get credit for having the idea.
most self professed "ideaguys" dont get beyond mashing together a bunch of disparate shit they like into an incoherent mess anyways, so they really cant even claim to be an idea guy (they have none of their own)
>>580244389>land carrierSick. I was thinking of mission or setting variety. I just got done replaying Long Day in 7 and a canyon area would go great. Almost like a maze if you want to go in low and it would harken back to the Soviet-Afghan war. Jungle environments for that 'Nam appeal and a megalopolis. Imagine dogfighting enemy helicopters or dodging SAMs using skyscrapers as cover.
>>580241829>Fi misses SARF's purpose, doesn't even support Neucom's mission statement, and disagrees with Cynthia's desire to sublimateWhy the FUCK did Nemo join these assholes.
>>580245679>dolphin plane go brrrrrrrrrr
>>580245679because we forced nemo to do it
>>579837528What is this thing ?
>>580245868Man I just wanted to not kill Fi and Erich was also trying to save her. I didn't realize l'd be jumping ship, but I guess Park is always right apparently.>>580245791Dolphin I > Dolphin II aesthetically.
>>580174782also uses the same style of NO STEP markings as the chinese
We better get a ton of Endurance deck crew love. We better get a cat shot every other mission with a different camera angle every time.
>joins Neucom because she wanted to be with her sister>gets in a fight with her sister because Neukeks/Ouroboros are crazy>dislikes Neucom but doesn't trust her sister enough to join the coup>stuck in Neucom with no friends except a silly mute AI pilotMan Cynthia's just a magnet for failure. Was cool to see Nagase in the cutscene, and it's neat that Ouroboros gets a Search entry right before you play the mission and make a decision to join the coup or not.
The white/blue afterburner cones on the Game are pure sex.
>>580245897Big railgun.
>>580248854So is it designed to hit a stationary target ?
>>580249049Asteroids, which don't move a lot all things considered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-XmA4sNqugI like how the dialogue changes if you obliterate the enemy squadron real quick. Tasha felt sorry for them.
Pre-ordered like a good goy, I hope I don't regret it
>after the coup, Neucom's best remaining pilots were poached from Upeo>Fiona keeps flying just to see Cynthia again, doesn't care about any of them at all>Night Raven shits on all Neukek technology and easily fucks up Megafloat>Fiona quits after everything's over, didn't even get to kill Dision herself>sublimated Cynthia doesn't even bother making up with Fi, just sends her a prerecorded messageWell that was fairly depressing. I just wanted to side with the two SARF members who were friendly to Nemo, didn't expect to fall into a weird melodrama with the world's unluckiest girl. Shame that Rena has to die(?) in this timeline, although I guess she is a terrorist here. Wonder what happens to Erich since he's completely irrelevant after you decide to save Fi.Also man, Neucom comes off as pretty pathetic in their own route.
>>580252059>Podarge crewman gets pissed off at the flight commander's patriotic ramblingLmao
>DenuvoI’m gonna have to cancel my preorder. I refuse to play games with Denuvo by principle.
I didn't say that
>>580253961AC7 launched with Denuvo but they removed it in an update a few years after release. Maybe it'll happen here too.
>>580255482Honestly at this point I'm starting to think Denuvo actively PAYS developers to use it, and they obviously recognise that it's a waste of resources so they ditch it as soon as the contract's up.
>>580255597It's not that, it's because Denuvo is a subscription thing so devs need to keep paying if they want to keep it. At release they think it's worth it because it forces enough people who'd prefer to pirate to buy the game instead. After a few years most of those potential pirates have already bought it, so its job is done and there's no need to keep spending money on it.
>>580255597Don't be silly. The point of Denuvo isn't to prevent piracy forever, just long enough to cover the relevant sales period (first few months after release). It's doing exactly what it was designed to do. It's probably being ditched because it's not worth spending extra to cover the game after 1-2 years or so when the game has likely already been discounted to less than 30% of its original price.
>>580234732>Personally, I'm on Team Kate EvansMy Brand Director
>>580235413Tasha better sing while Coster shreds on guitar.
https://x.com/gamenohanashi/status/2097087743285452889
>>580260838I guess ace_combat is finally going to get more content
>>580261062>Everyone starts falling over each other because of some pink haired little lesbian>Nobody put out nearly as much of a reaction for MY little lesbianPain.
>>580260838>I didn't expect the cute girl to garner a huge and positive response555-COME-ON-NOW
>>580263732they probably had low expectations after people's lukewarm reactions to the poster girls of AC7
>>580253448Erich stays with UPEO, you can even shoot him down in one of the later missions.Also at least you got to play Tunnel Vision.
>>580249227Thats a terrifying concept...
>>580222140Do AC3fags even like ace combat?
>>580222140Do ACfags even like any of the games?
>>580252059Really hope the Lux Lunae aren’t such pushovers on higher difficulty. Seems like they have a ton of dialogue for a more drawn out fight.
>>580274995Yeah, I hope this is just endgame plane + low difficulty and that with whatever plane you can actually acquire this early + expert/ace difficulty(whichever you can select on your first run) they'll put up at least as much of a fight as Rot/Grun/Indigo.
>>580275550The first one he kills has terrible ai so it's not the plane being overpowered. It just flies in a straight line and gets HPAA'd like 10 seconds after he fires because it doesn't even try to dodge.Maybe higher difficulties will fix it but different planes won't.
>>580275912Yeah, he's also taking very little damage from those missile hits(looks like 6 shots to kill) so that confirms it's on easy. I've never actually played any of the AC games below Hard so I don't know if this is how they handle it too(lower difficulties disable AI dodging).
How well does AC0 emulate?
>>580276314depends on if the square explosions are an emulation issue or just a ps2 issue, I never played the game on an actual ps2 so I have no idea
The Lux Lunae are cook. They packed a lot of characterization into a squadron that you wipe out in a single encounter. 55 sounds like he cares a lot about his comrades, he violates his orders to save the Podarge crews etc. >>580276131thus far, all CC previews of the campagin have been on “Normal” or below >>580275912It seems like the 50s gimmick is go fast and use a lot of flares to autodefeat missiles. On harder difs they’ll probably dump more flares, but they’re ultimately LAAM food.
>>580276617*coolthey are cooked though
>>580276397Square explosions were an emulation problem, keyword being "were" since PCSX2 fixed that years ago. PS2 and 6th gen console emulation is more or less a solved problem, except for Xbox I guess but most of that thing's library is cross-platform.
>wake up >game still isn’t outpain
>>580278583Assuming you sleep once a day that's bound to repeat at least 20 more times.
So is Zero a preorder only bonus or will it be available with future purchases of 8 too? Because I want to get the game on Xbox and I don't have to fuck around with emulators later.
>>580284484Very likely preorder only. 7 had 5/6 as preorder bonuses and they were indeed preorder exclusive.Some people think it's to do with how the plane licences work.
>>580222140I care for all Ace Combat except AssHor
>>580286960I feel you should have at least one more exception.
>>580287514I don't particularly hate Advance.
>>580225867Remember the FCU built several X-02 for testing sometime after 2006. >You start the game in a I'll take anything I can get my hands on modeWe're getting the X-02 and the X-02S should show up as a late game plane
>>580289569Which is good, since it is also carrier capable.
>>580276617I think kono said on a stream that you previously has easy normal expert or whatever it was and then they put in very easy Now its easy - v easyNormal - easyVeteran - normal from the previous gamesAnd hard or expert whatever they call it Also the ai should get better above normal from what i was able to pick upMight be wrong
>>580289713Yeah the difficulties got renamed/reshuffled with 4 available on first play, and the 5th “ace” difficulty coming after your first run as usual. I think the renaming is fucking retarded. A mistake.
>>580260838>We spent a lot of money on this girl>Don't say it like that it sounds wrong>laughsStill the funniest parts of that interview when they first said she cost the most out of the cast.
I'm glad we aren't going to lose the game, given how it was a late game plane in 3 I wasn't sure if they were going to work it in somehow or leave for Battle pass only plane like Morgan.But will we get a Shadow unit flying the Game?
>>580290472Considering who they got as Tasha’s JP VA, it’s not surprising she cost a lot. >pic related
>>580290183Same with the controlsIt's not normal and expertIt's assisted mode and normalShit confuses so many people
>>580291412NGL this is the main reason I'm doing at least one run with JP audio.
>>580289713A good side-effect of this is that you don't need 2 full walk-throughs to unlock Ace like in AC04 and AC5. Just start on Expert and Ace is unlocked for your next run.
>>580291972You have good taste anon. Doing at least a couple JP runs because I feel like localization is going to annihilate these characters.
>>580291412It's only fair.
>>580294137I bet this was Chika-san’s idea. Recording/production for Lycoris and AC8 overlapped.
>>580294137>All the others are cute girls now>Mobius 1 is still unseen
>>580294501Lycoris Recoil is from 2022 I don't think they would be recording audio lines then let alone hired VA's at that point.
But will AC8's multiplayer have the greatest song in the franchise?https://youtu.be/PVx1kq0B38U
>>580294902Maybe the contract with PA was being signed back then idk. Maybe Chika is just based and has been a series fan.
>>580295137ONCE THERE WAS A TIMEONCE THERE WAS A WALLBUT WRITTEN IN THE STONEWALLS ARE MADE TO FALLBUT SCRATCH ALL THAT HARMONYYOUR BOYS BE LAYIN' HARM ON MESO TAKE THIS BOMB FROM MECAUSE NOW YOU GONNA SEE
>>580295137It’s time to accept that this is actually kino.
>>580295137If Kono isn’t a coward, he’ll put Sunset Glow on the MP roster.
>>580266912Erich disappears after you save Fi and cannot be shot down because of this.
>>580295137>greatest song in the franchiseThat isn't In the Zonehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgNPdJsGugU
Is there a comprehensive list of all the confirmed content in AC8?
>>580298860Yeah. the wiki, the official site, this general
>>580299838Not lists.
>>580300147Stop being lazy and spend a few minutes to look around the wiki and official site and you'll get all your answers.
>>580295137>>580297069<<*blocks ur path*>>https://youtu.be/QOL1_w9EwSc
>>580298860>AC0 special limited preorder bonus with native cheevos edition>AC8 the first new game in the series in 9 years and the first one to introduce a new nation in 19 years>ACO, Infinity 2 Electrosphere Boogaloo with clans and avatars and arcade games and such
>>580274068I really like this.
>>580276314Runs perfectly on vulkan
>>580281721That's fucked up
>>580291412Still haven't watched this but holy fuck Tasha is Chaika?Guess I'm pre-ordering now. And marathoning lycoreco this weekend, I guess.
Mig29A being the best available Fulcrum (35 too if we’re lucky) is shitty.
>>580312780Just fly a Flanker like a normal person you weirdo.
>>580312780Why aren't we getting the Mig-29K in a game where a carrier is your main base?
>>580313162The Indian Navy wouldn’t let Kono get scans. Unlucky.
>>580312892>t. KonoFlankers get a lot of love already. I just want my Fulctum Miggers to get at least F-16 levels of attention, hopefully the Mig-33 comes back as DLC.
>>580313419>Flankers get a lot of love alreadyDo they? We've only got 2 flankers confirmed for AC7. 4 F-18s.
>>580307671>first one to introduce a new nation in 19 yearsAhem, 7 introduced 2 new nations sure they aren't any bigger than Rhode Island but still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSy0jmVzvS4
>>580298860I got you:>At least 3 planes>At least 2 missions>At least 2 wives>Biggest one you might not expect: Pac-man (1980) is CONFIRMED to be included
>>580316578Don’t forget the dog, anon.
No more info until TGS?
With the FCU endurance being a decommissioned 1944 carrier, then, why not?
>>580318804Because that's not a carrier-based fighter.
>>580318804Because that's not a naval fighter. This thing on the other hand was commonly launched off an Essex class carrier.
>>580295137
>>580320434Corsair RAPES bearcats.
Harrierbros...
>>580321482What do PAce have against the Harrier?
What do we think of the character creator?
>>580307584I laughed out loud when I first heard it in the game. >DROP THE BOOOOOOMBThe fucking femdom squadron too.
>>580322345is that...
>>580322345Will it be as good as the character creator in MH:World?
>>580307671>Ace Combat 6 was 19 years agoGod damn. I was fucking 10 years old. And we spent so much of that time thinking there might never be another real entry…
>>580322345Can I just slap a helmet on my dude and call it a day
>>580322345It looks fine.
>>580322345Kirkould this be...
>>580322345well played 9/10
>reuters reporting imminent contract awardHope it isn’t the kiss of death again this time. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-navys-next-generation-fighter-decision-be-unveiled-soon-sources-say-2026-09-08/
>>580312780fuck the fulcrum I want 1.44
Good luck.
>>580327396that helmet better be wearable, if not then what's the pointfuck these gay little replica helmets, titanfall 2's special edition is still the only good one because it's properly wearable
>>580328851They said play in the signup page so it must be meant for some sort of human sized head
>>580327396I’m winning this. I’ll cosplay in Toronto and get so much reddit gold.
>>580316902Woof!
Does the game have an fov slider?
>>580333685Never has never will
Will it have clickable cockpits?
>>580337119
>>580337119I'm sure someone will try to make that a mod at some point
>>579843739I got an F-35 and I didn't even pick the stealth answer.
>>580295137This unironically sounds like those AI slop songs you hear todayAssHorizon was such abject garbage it was even ahead of its time on the garbage-o-meter
>>580342464https://youtu.be/S2EF3GSaZg8Seriously what was PA thinking when making AH? this looks awful
Would you like jetwash in te game?
I like the detail here with the wing folding hinge mechanism
>>580345498It flapscute!
>>580345498This is the same shit I hate about the Shinden. Just the wingtips going up and down looks so wimpy. Would this even serve any actual purpose other than looking like they'll tear off if you look at them funny?
>>580346835>Would this even serve any actual purpose other than looking like they'll tear off if you look at them funny?helps trap the shockwave generated by supersonic flight underneath the fuselage, generating lift as well as increasing directional stability at high speed. the most notable IRL airplane utilizing this effect being the XB-70 Valkyrie
>>580347216It looks like a combination of a variable sweep wing and a a variable camber wing, which is strange because one is used for very high speeds and the other to control lower speeds, the only thing that comes to mind that would use both principles is on very very high altitudes, where air density is an isue for conventional wing designs.But who knows
>>580345498But will it have the GR & Ouroboros skins?
>>580291412>>580312262She's the green woman in one of the Idolmaster games too.Idolmaster is associated with Ace Combat so this is most relevant.
>>580322345Where are the anime skins?
>>580322345I am not looking forward to /aceg/ becoming /xivg/
>>580347862its not a variable sweep wing or a variable camber wing though? the only thing that is variable is the wingtip. when at low speed, the wingtips are raised to provide decreased induced drag, at high speed it drops down to assist the compression lift effect
>>580348745It won't we don't care much about the character avatar. If the game lets us most of us would walk about with a full faced helmet on all the time. Now if it was a plane creator on the other hand then /aceg/ would be in trouble.
I want the government to show this off already so it can come to game. F-47 isn’t supposed to fly until 2028 and I’m hoping they either show off the demonstrator beforehand or do it like B-21 and have a big rollout ceremony a year or so before first flight
>>580350615Apalis alive in America?
>>580350615Given the source of that image I still say its total BS or if it was real its one of the countless one off prototypes you don't know exist until 20 years later.
>>580351094China ain't the only country who has AC fanboys working in aerospace companies afterall.
Achievements got leaked, there are 30 missions
>>580351154Phantomworks likes to be funny and hide the planform of their projects on patches. They did it with YF-188G/Bird of Prey, and ostensibly this was the patch for the guys who worked on the Aerospace Innovation Initiative demonstrator. If you look at the scarf it has at least a passing resemblance to what was filmed, and also lines up somewhat with official renders of F-47. While the people who caught it are jackasses, being dumb has never stopped anyone from getting lucky.
>>580351654Leaked where? by who?
>>580351654https://steamdb.info/app/2288340/stats/Peruse at your own peril
>>580351654Provide a source you fucking Belkan.
alright, that's my cue to bail outta here until after i've beaten the gamesee you in a few weeks buddies
>>580351654Who would've thought that giving the game to literal who's would result in leaks
>>580351739>>580351909Steam themselves it seems, this guy linked it>>580351846
>>580351846No multiplayer achievements? Thank fuck.
>>580352040Same, see you anons when I beat the game, good luck everyone
>mission 29 achievement name and imageAyy lmao?
>>580351846A trophy fordoing a fucking PSM in story modeReally PA?That Yes Sir one is an interesting one just for what you have to doWhileAnti-Ground & air to air ace has 100 ground/air targets with AtG/AtA weapons that is like a single destruction missionI'll avoid reading the blurred out ones however as I know those will spoil the game.
>>580350615what happened to Fs 23-34 and 36-46
>>580352915>23bro
>>580352915Tri service designation was taken behind the shed and shot, we number off vibes now. That or the boys at Groom were busier bees than anyone gave them credit for these last decades, a Navy test pilot put qualifications on a “YF-45D” on his linkedin a couple years back, while the Obama years had rumors of iirc a YF-43.
>>580351846Man this campaign's gonna be long as fuck and I'm here for it. Also just from the icon for its cheevo I know exactly why PA didn't let people at the events show Mission 5 gameplay.
>>579843739>Precise / Stealth / Speed>Hard-to-track pilots who disappear from the fight, then return from the angle no one saw coming.That's actually pretty funny because all I ever did in PvP in AC7 was use a MiG-31B with SAAMs. Sitting on the edge of the map, hitting the MVP, then flying away lol.
>want to replay 7 to freshen up for 8>360 controller receiver that I've used for years suddenly won't work anymore>have to wait until the 22nd for my new 8bitdo chinesium wired controller to get here
>story spoilersYep, time to get the hell out of here.See you on the other side, aces.
>30 missions>no sign of alternate choices, A/B missions, or even just optional objectives like AC6>""""largest volume of content in the series"""" was actually a bunch of cutscenes and bullshit instead of actual gameplayGod, fuck off bamco. Garauntee most of that "effort" was actually put towards figuring out how they can siphon the most money and time out of retards with ACO
>>580356202Oh look doomposting already that was quickIts just a bunch of trophies that most people don't care about. Like most games the trophies are just we did some simple shit because we have too. That list isn't going to tell you what is in the game just relax
>>580356202>>no sign of alternate choices, A/B missions, or even just optional objectives like AC6why dont doomposting FAGGOTS ever actually engage with the multiple dev interviews that EXPLICITLY adress these things
>>580356202It’s effective parity with AC5. It’s fine. I also doubt they’ll implement absolute stinker gimmicks like 5 did on some of its missions. Mondainai.
>>580356202If only it was 31 missions, I'm sure then this anon would be satisfied.Really though 30 missions plus Infinity seems like a lot of content. AC7 had 20 + 3 dlc + very bare bones mulitplayer.
>>580356202If you thought it was gonna be anything more than this you genuinely expected too much, sorry.
>>580356202There will probably be optional objectives like 6, but yes, it's gonna be a linear campaign without branching paths.
>>580358506its like, do 6fags even realize that their special baby only came with 15 missions and 15 aircraft, if PA pulled that shit today you'd never hear the end of it from these people
>>580358949Worth saying that if the comparison is something like AC3, a lot of AC6 or 7 missions with a checkpoint would be two or 3 AC3 missions. Like AC3 has a mission where you fly through a canyon and that's kind of it. Next mission is a big fight on a Upeo superfloat. That's about equal content to Cape Rainy which is "just one" mission where you fly through a canyon and then attack a base.
>>580359340I know. To be honest I never expected branching paths like 3 in the first place, always felt like wishful thinking to me.
>>580359526worth noting here that there is still some form of branching narrative, in that you can have the option of deciding whether to kill or spare certain minor named characters which will have an effect on later missions
>>580352915YF-23 was too kino to liveYF-32 was too funny to live
I think the main thing to worry about is the performance. I have a feeling the game might run like shit on anything but high end hardware, and anyone that's around minimum specs is gonna have a bad time even at minimum settings. We'll have to wait and see though, maybe it's more optimized than I thought.
>>580359526Branching missions are cool but they're kind of just not a trend any more. There was a time when every game was doing it and it was a big back-of-the-box selling point. I don't think most gamers care as much now that there's open world games with a little more dynamic decisions. And developers see it as a lot of effort into missions a significant portion of people won't even play since they do one, maybe two playthroughs.I did really like how Zero did it though, with different ace squadrons coming to fight you. That adds a little variety without being a lot of work to implement.
>>580356202>BROOOOOO>Why my silly arcade flight game no have five hundred hour BG3 RPG main story!??!?
is nobody going to mention whatever the fuck the cheevo for mission 29 implies
>>580360734what do you think it implies because I have no clue
>>580360901looks like the flowers from the trailer unless i'm retarded
>mission 26THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>580351654Thank God. I was afraid of them going all bloat for those rumored 40 or so missions.
>>580359871>want to be comfy and play it on couch and ps5>know it'll look and run like dogshit vs my fancy new computer God dammit.
>Implying you need more
>>580363775i would like to go Fast
>>580364167>FastWhat if the online mode allows you to stack enough augments that you can go fast.
>>580364445Even if it does, fast is relative. Fast plane with go fast parts will be faster than slow plane with go fast parts.
>>580363775I need less. I want a roster of 2nd generation jets
>>580364641Depends on if there are caps or not, the game could be well balancedlol
GnMaybe tomorrow will be October 2
>>580363775what ifm it was a black dorito?
>>580359871I want to know if Win11 is strict requirement and if there is need to update bios like in latest CoD beta
>>580372389That's everything now that Microsoft ended support has their been a new game yet that won't launch on 10?Those days between deluxe and standard release will be busy so much chatter about the content and performance of the game.
>>580359871>flying through clouds on DLSS/FSR performance mode "Wow this game is pretty"
>>580374863Looking closely it says:>Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system>Windows 11Went over recent games I had and Nioh 3 had same reqs and worked fine.
The game really needs to je designed around branching like AC3 or ACX to make it worthwhileThe half measures of AC5 and ACJA aren't interesting
>>580342464Imagine listening to unbridled kino and being too uncultured to appreciate it.
>>580377206i agree 100% but that's not gonna happen again, it's not feasible now when the games are so much bigger and more complex and detailedit already takes them a billion years to make just one linear campaign
>>580164276I did not expect this to get resolved so quickly. 30 missions it is so just barely bigger than AC5 in terms of mission count.Hopefully it has fewer awful gimmick missions where nothing fucking happens and you either kill re-spawning waves or literally just fly around waiting for radio messages to finish so the mission can progress.I'm expecting the first 3-4 missions to be very simple ones that you can beat in under 5 minutes, basically just a prolonged tutorial. But that still leaves a lot of room for big meaty missions.
It's not even 30 missions, more like 29. The first leaked one is so short and boring, even compared to 7's first mission
>>580355026I'm sorry anon..I’ve had my original 360 reciver for 15 years and it’s still going strong.
>>580352059Apparently Valve fucked up and leaked this, not some random fan with a preview copy.
>>580360734ALIENS
Well see you around, we have some campers happy to shit on the game and spoil stuff, you ain't gonna get me.
>>580393923Always was
How about a sp mission to kill Pac-Man™
>>580400512I want a Godzilla battle in ACO as a special raid
>one cheeky intern killed the general its over
Yeah how dare people not want to be spoiled about a game they have been looking forward to for years.
>>580351846Was it removed? I don't see the achievements anywhere.
So if we're gonna dick measure over missions, what's the longest Ace Combat campaign?04 is pretty short. 5 has 27 missions, and 3 of them have an alternate route. Some of those missions are short though. Zero has 18 missions, and very minor replay differences in that you can fight different aces depending on your knight/mercenary alignment.6 has the longest missions but only 15 of them. Assault horizon has the longest single turret sequence in gaming, I wish it was shorter.7 has 20 missions, plus the 3 dlc. It felt just a little short overall.Electrosphere (JP version) has 53 missions but they're all shorter, and its a PS1 game, there's less going on in general.>Wings of Theve might well be poised to be the longest Ace Combat campaign at 29 missions + prologue
>>580406247I never finished Ass Hor, and the answer is definitely not 4 or Zero.I think 5 is longer for a first time run including cutscenes. But if you are shit at 6 and just barely pass the missions with allies that barely survive, well then that might be above Zero and 4 and close to 5. It really depends on your playstyle. If we include dlc from 7, then we include operation Katina from 5.
>>580405248>the game has some planes>the game has some missions that you fly planes inOH NOES WHAT A HUGE SPOILER, THE GAME IS WORTHLESS NOW!
>>580409302>operation KatinaBut those are super short arcade levels you can play a full run in 15ish minutes. The only one with quicker levels than that was Air Combat 22
>>580406247I think in terms of both total play time and total flight time AC5 takes the longest to complete. AC3(all routes) has a ton of missions but they're very short.And this isn't necessarily a good thing, AC5 has a lot of missions that are like twice or three times as long as they should've been.
>>580410362Yes very true. The point is what do we include or not. And do we consider the length to be an /aceg/ run or nugget run? I think nugget run w cutscenes it’s 5 then closely 7. But a nugget could snail pace 6 into second place.
>>580411382Surely 3 beats 7, especially without DLC. The missions might be short but each one comes with cutscenes, briefing, and debriefing that's standard length for Ace Combat. And there's 52 of them.
You know since 8 is shaping up to be the new gen game with the most content, that means 9 is gonna be shorter and tighter.And then 10 is gonna suck ass, Story wise at least.
19 days to go.
>>580411382If its a nugget run we're counting then 7 by a mile as that nugget can and will be filtered by Long Day..
>>580411382ACAH has either the shortest campaign (I stopped in the middle) or longest (it's taking me years to complete)
>>58041245719 days to cave in and buy a new gpu so I can actually run this bitch
>>580411686I've done two runs of 3 and counting the time I've spent watching cutscenes or reading log entries it took me about 2.5-3 hours each time.
>>580419153So by that logic it's 12-15 hours for all 5 routes, which still beats AC7.
Achievements don't reveal much.One thing that it did is that it confirms what a lot of buddies thought there's at least one space mission like the one in 3 and the other is that the war ends before the game does so it seems there's a 0 situation where the last few missions are about something other than the opening conflict.Show off more OCs and it all seems pretty good from the outside at least.
Ac7 campaign is less than 4 hoursAnd I still have well over 100 hours playedI'm just saying that it's value will not be known until we play the game ourselves.
less than 1 month until AC8 who /hyped/ here
Is that a XB-70???
>>580422695You betcha
>>580422695I need it NOW/10
When you were when acz port was kill.
>>580422695/hyped/ fuck yea only thing I have going on for meActually destroyed to be leaving for month(s) because poorfaggin, last saved pennies spent on pc hardware, car and wanting to eat
>>580422695I'm a little excited
>>580422695the worst pre-launch psychosis I’ve ever suffered
>>580422695The gap between early and full release is gonna kill me but I'm too broke and stingy to want to spend another $20
>>580422695It's pretty much the only upcoming release I'm truly excited forI was interested in Blood of the Dawnwalker too. Interested, not excited.
>>580426185I literally haven't been hyped for any game since Elden Ring until AC8
>>580425160it's gonna be early cancer? wtf?
>>580426284Yeah I can probably count the new releases I've been truly hyped for in the last few years with just one hand, and I might not use all fingersI guess AC7 (it was the game that made me finally join Steam) ER, Armored Core 6, Silksong...I think that might be it
I really hate the way they're handling pre-order bonuses this time around compared to 7. All I really want is a physical steelbook and the new edition of Aces at War but to get those I need to buy the 150 dollar edition that's sold out. This sucks. I guess the important thing is getting it on a disc because this is a game I absolutely want a physical copy of.
>>580422695Most hyped I've been for a AAA "mainstream" (using that loosely) game in a long, long time. Maybe since Skyrim even. In fact the last game in general I was this hyped for before launch must have been... Factorio Space Age, maybe? They don't come along often.
>>579837528God that cock is huge
>>580426373It releases September 29th for the goodest goys and on Oct 2nd for everyone else.
>>580427519I hope that early access doesn't include multiplayer too.
>>580426373Yes. I'll already have all the P2W stuff by the time everyone starts playing getting MVP. Welcome back Infinity.
>>580427690It absolutely will. You just have to accept the fact that by the time you get the game and finish the singleplayer campaign everyone else will already be flying maxed out superplanes in multiplayer.
>>580360734>Mission 29: anemone>What lives in a anemone? clown fish>what's the name for the most popular clownfish? that's fucking RIGHTwe're fighting NEMO as the final boss
>>580428884On the bright side that means I likely won't be designated as the Ace for my team so I can dick around getting my participation trophy while the whales kill each other.
I just realized something.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_man_formationtashabros…
I'm a conflict-averse pussy so you'll only see me in the Co-op Warfare when I hit it by accident.That is all.
>>580431170I've been wondering about this as well but we don't have context for when this scene happens yet. It could be something that looks like a missing man formation, it could be in memorial of Cope and Theve himself, or that Hornet breaking formation is a goddamn drone again and this is a Journey Home/Faceless Soldier situation.
Also I was looking up the formation to see if that matched up with it, and found this absolutely cursed memorial that features Raptors with one vertical stab.
Remember it's not about the plane or your rank it's about being engaged in a knife fight when a third guy flies in from nowhere and hits you with HVAA/SASM
>>580422695AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>580423034Mark spoilers as spoilers nigga
>>580431170I think it's pretty clear the black man is the one who gets mirked, not Tasha.
>>580432780I'm going to exclusively use LAAMs while flying as far away from the action and targetting players who are clearly already engaged in a dogfight then smugly tell people I'm doing "Boom and Zoom" high level energy preservation tactics.
>>580431170Here is a horribly overprocessed photo of the Hornet taken on the 23rd of December, 2016.
>>580434263Didn't play 7 MP later on after the DLC isn't this what FB22's did
"Do it for her"
>>580434962I have a chrome FB-22 build with LAAMs, damage, homing, range, stealth coating, and anti-stealth radar for this express purpose, yes.
>>580439296You don't want the homing, it fucks with the "super homing bug".
>>580411382Just started playing AC games for the first time (0 flight game experience) the past couple weeks, played 4,5,0,6 and 7 and watched all the cutscenes. My playtimes were about4 - 7 hrs5 - 10 hrs0 - 3.5 hrs (Knight if that matters, no idea)6 - 8 hrs7 - 9 hrs
>>580441329Some of those seem a bit long to me. Did you start increasing the difficulty as you played the later games resulting in more restarts?
>>580442592I crashed a lot in 4 and 5 at the end of missions when I was out of ammo trying to gun stuff down. 6 I did almost entirely in an attacker so I was kinda slow and 7 I actually started first, quit halfway through to go play the others first then restarted 7 from scratch so I'm not entirely certain on my true playtime.
>>580442592>>580442941I also didn't know about High G turns in 6 until I accidentally did it during chandelier*
>>580443074I didn't know about it until after I finished 6 and 7.
>>580443639Doesn't 7 explicitly tell you what high G turns are and how to use them in like mission 3? How could you possibly miss that?
>>580445192I get hyperfocused when I'm playing these games, I don't notice anything that the characters say or anything that pops up on screen.
Baking is on standby
>>580440230Huh, I know about the 1s turn rate penalty but I figured the homing parts would just buff the ridiculous super homing once the penalty wears off.
>>580446476Super homing only happens at like 10km+ range, it's related to total missile flight time. LAAMs essentially go from not homing at all to homing pretty well to "super homing" at extreme ranges.The "super homing" bug makes the missile do ridiculous shit like fly sideways. It's basically the level of homing that the sat missiles have in M9.
>>580432204Its double cursed a single tail F-22 being used at Pearl.Don't tell me this is what the Navy was planning to build before the Cold War ended and they got hit with huge budget cuts canceling that plane.
>>580447445I know you wanna run max range and fire from right at the edge of lock-on for that reason, but homing parts just add some percentage to the turn rate. Shouldn't it just let them do even more ridiculous shit?
>>580449386No because the bug relies on specific breakpoints that you can't hit with the homing parts.
>>580449479Huh. Guess it's getting swapped out for either flight time or some MSL buff next time I actually feel like ruining everybody's fun in multiplayer.
>>580451048It (probably) won't work in AC8 though.
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