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>>580131082sex with fempyro
>>580131082Greek thread.
3 NIGASON CART
>>580131082American Thread
>>580131108>so that Heavy isn't such a Medic hogHe's not a medic hog though.
>>580131310But it's not the 4th of July
>>580131382You can love your country every day
>>580131382it's always 4th of july somewhere in the world
Loving TF2 is more patriotic than loving your own country
>>580131597What if I love both?
>>580131857Truke, also sovlful image
This image is older than some anon's Steam accounts.
>troll doesn't even know about gr15
>>580132034shhh let him find out, it'll be funny
>>580131836(Voice): No
heavy would be perfect if they just reverted most if not all of his nerfs, instead of giving him dumb buffs like "give him more hp" or "give him more knockback resistance"I will detail this in a bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO1Yq7n9zLU
Did Zesty win yet?
>>580132332all that heavy needs to be perfect is a lunchbox slot
>>580132531all I need is my cock in there
>>580131857Kind wish they'd cut back a little but, eh he keeps this place alive
>>580132531part of my detailing suggests that he either be allowed to have a lunch PDA (this could potentially break him) or more balance-friendly, just let him equip lunchables in his primary slot as well as his secondary. Then he'd be able to run shotgun heavy, or be a pseudo-medic able to throw out two sandviches, or use steak and the chocolate bar.
Objectively ok Heavy update:>4th slot for food items>Buff Buffalo Steak Sandvich by removing +20% Damage Vulnerability
EXCUSE ME, I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
>>580131364Is he? Mediguns only heals him for 24/s in combat, which is only like 8% of his max health.Meanwhile for a Scout not only does the Medic gets to copy his speed (which made good Scout pockets such a dominant thing barring sentries shutting them), but 24/s for him is like 20% on top of being able to double jump+speed to dodge attacks.
>>580132332Ok, so:PRIMARIES>Minigun-Remove the 1-second damage ramp-up mechanic, this is dumb and was made to cater to bombing soldiers-Remove the inability to flinch snipers beyond 750 hammer units. If they don't want to be suppressed by a minigun, they can use the cozy camperOtherwise, it's literally perfect>Natascha-Nerf its damage resistance from 20% to 15%, or maybe get rid of it altogether so that the brass beast has more of an identity-Buff its damage penalty from -25% to -20%Controversial, but I think it's perfect conceptually as-is as the slowdown minigun>Brass Beast-Damage resistance is now active either upon reaching full spin-up, or alternatively, when below 75% hp instead of 50% hp-Buff of -50% movespeed while deployed instead of -60% movespeed>TomislavIt's fine, if a little boring, no notes>Huo-Long Heater-Make the ring of fire have a cylindrical hitbox as tall as the heavy instead of a time is a flat circle-Either reduce the additional ammo cost from +4 per second to +2 per second, or alternatively, add an MMPH-style meter where the heavy can gain incendiary ammo after doing idk, 300 bullet damage; yes, he still has to taunt to activate the incendiary ammocontinued ->
>>580133942-Remove the inability to flinch snipers beyond 750 hammer units. If they don't want to be suppressed by a minigun, they can use the cozy camperIts honestly crazy how much Valve coddled Sniper through the duration of TF2's development. Anything that could merely inconvenience them away from standing next to a sentry and clicking on people from a mile away got removed or given a direct counteritem>"Hahah yeah we admit it, when we made Sniper we didn't expect people to be putting thousands of hours into AimLabs so turns out the ranged oneshots were stronger than intended">That means you'll nerf him right?>"Nah we're going to keep buffing him before abandoning balance altogether"
>>580132034>>580132154Lol sisters he got pruned!!
>>580133942SECONDARIES>ShotgunPerfect, no notes>Sandvich-Allow heavies to use sandviches and buffalo steaks as medium health kits when tossed on the floor again, and every other lunchbox item as a small health kit-All lunchbox items can now additionally be equipped in the primary weapon slot to facilitate fat scout or fat medic, as explained here: >>580132741>Dalokohs Bar-Eaten 50% fasterIt's otherwise perfectly fine>Buffalo Steak-Removal of the hidden -20% damage vulnerabilitySeriously, why is this there?-Addition of a 50% knockback resistance while under its effects>Family Business-Give it a slightly tighter spread, maybe 10-15%It does have a stock, after all>Panic AttackPerfect, no notes>Second Banana-Bananacontinued ->
>>580131857>>580132154it was in fact funny
>>580134938>>580134680Kek
EXCUSE ME! I'M IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!
>>580133119>>580135123>>580133251
YESZesty WONSo STOP ASKING IF HE WON
>>580134687MELEE>FistsPerfect as far as I know, no notes>KGB-Fix the medium-to-lower quality graphics setting viewmodels continuing to render the heavy's crumpled up broken hands below the gloves; said crumpled up broken hands poke through the left glove on every single one of heavy's glove-based meleesOtherwise perfect, no notes>GRU-Return the functionality of marking the player for death for 5 seconds, instead of draining the player's health while active-Can once again be stacked with the buffalo steak speed boost>Warrior's SpiritHopefully with the buff to the buffalo steak, these will be more viable>Fists of Steel-Marked for death for 3 seconds after holstering-Fix the health bug where the heavy can retain full overheal from medics as long as the medic started healing the heavy before he pulled out the FoS>Eviction Notice-Full reversion to its Gun Mettle update stats-Inflict bleed for 8 seconds upon striking an enemyI seriously don't know what else to do with this fucking thing>Holiday PunchPerfect, no notesI think that pretty much covers it, unless I'm forgetting something. I think with these minor buffs and tweaks, heavy would be in a much better spot, and wouldn't need any major changes. Time would ultimately tell, of course.
>>580134604Agreed
>>580133942Oh, an additional note for the Huo-Long:-While taunting to activate the incendiary ammo, the heavy now uses either the "THE BURNING YOU FEEL? IT IS SHAME" or "I'M COMING FOR YOU" voicelines to telegraph the fact he's now going to be shooting flaming ammo
>>580136125If it were up to me GRU/Escape Plan would be stuff that shouldn't have been added.>Devalues damaging the Soldier/Heavy by letting them move to cover quickly to get heals and get back to fighting much faster.>Downside doesn't matter once they're in cover.>GRU additionally ignores Heavy intentionally being made to be slow.
>>580137004I wouldn't say it devalues damaging them at all, since they now take 35% more damage without any falloff as soon as they whip either melee out, and for a significant amount of time after they put them away.If they managed to survive the increased damage and were able to get into cover, and nobody was able to capitalize on their vulnerability, I'd say they've earned the benefit.Heavy was intentionally made slow because it was assumed there'd always be an engineer with a teleporter set up to help him get to the front line faster. This is not always the case. Heavy is also a close-ranged powerhouse, so he has no real use for his melee outside of the rare instance of completely running out of ammo, which naturally opens up the slot for a utility-based melee. I see no issue with the GRU existed, since they serve to make an otherwise boring aspect of the class more fun. They also open up select jumps that heavy would otherwise be unable to make, giving him just a little bit more mobility, which as I mentioned is fun.
>>580131082this image doesn't have anything to do with tf2. perfect op 10/10
>>580139264It's literally the TF2 menu...
>>580134604the really crazy thing is sniper didnt even have that big of an "advocacy base" "lobbying" for buffs (the way you see today across all sorts of games where mains of XYZ will actively brigade and either dickride or browbeat the devs for preferential treatment) valve just mostly did that on their own
Kill pyros. Behead pyros with the eyelander. Roundhouse kick a pyro onto the control point. Slamdunk a gibus pyro into the trash. Crucify filthy pyro mains. Deficate into a pyros sandvich. Launch pyros into a buzzsaw. Stiryfry pyros in a wok. Toss pyros in front of active sentry guns. Urinate into a pyros gasstank. Judo throw pyros into a woodchipper. Twist pyros heads off. Report pyros to Valve. Karate chop pyros in half. Curbstomb pregnant pyros. Trap pyros in the underworld. Dump pyros into the trash compactor. Liquify pyros into a vat of acid. Eat pyros. Dissect pyros. Exterminate pyros in MGE. Stomp on pyros skull with the mantreads. Make pyros check'em. Cremate pyros with the degreaser. Lobotomize pyros. Mandatory trade bans for pyros. Crush pyros into a paste. Drown pyros in jarate. Vapourize pyros with a pomson. Spawn camp pyros. Kick a pyro from your mvm lobby. Shark pyros from hat drops. Feed pyros to alligators. Slice pyros open with the half-zatoichi.
MvM update status?
>>580140576Fuck pyros. Get head from pyros. Fuck a pyro on the control point. Slamdunk your cock into her. Cum inside filthy pyro cunts. Have the pyro make you a sandvich after. Launch sperm into pyros. Fry pyros' brains with sex. Toss a pyro's salad. Urinate into a pyro's mouth (she's into it). Judo throw pyros onto a bed. Twist pyros' nipples. Report your love for pyros to Valve. Split pyros' legs in half. Impregnate pyros. Get trapped into sex by demon pyros from the underworld. Dump sperm into a pyro cum dumpster. Submerge pyros into a vat of cum. Eat pyros' pussies. Dissect pyros' clothes off. Dominate pyros after defeating them in MGE. Slap pyro's face during sex with the Hot Hand. Make pyros suck'em. Cream inside pyros' holes. Lobotomize pyros into sex slaves. Mandatory slut training for pyros. Give pyros your love paste. Drown pyros in mad milk. Whip pyros' asses with a disciplinary action. Camp in the same tent with pyros. Invite a pyro to your mvm lobby. Give pyros your hat drops in exchange for sex. Fuck pyros like an alligator. Slice pyros' clothes off with the half-zatoichi.
>>5801412912 weeks>>580141714this butt also shupos yordles olivias mimis meowscaradas and bunnies
sweepy
Kind of a niche question but can the strange count transfer tool work from stock bat --> holy mackerel? It's a reskin not a whole new weapon, right?
>>580148132no
>>580148223Damn, that sucks. Oh wellJust got a 4 killstreak with melee scout, shit's pretty fun
I love this sentry spot.
>>580150553i like your hud, anon
>>580150698Thanks, it's SunsetHud with some tweaks. I never figured how to reposition the health cross, I wanted it so it was larger and the health number was inside it. People always complain about the main menu background when I post it because it uses the Barnblitz skybox which is pink, purple and blue.
>>580150939>Barnblitz skybox which is pink, purple and bluedear god anon how horriddidn't you stop to think about the people around here who get very upset at colors?
>>580150939People have a pavlovian response to colors now. It doesn't help that troons look at anything pink and blue and start spamming their flag
>>580154438>nowHuman pattern recognition has been there for 20,000 years if not more
>>580154585I was generalizing but specifically pink and blue being "trans" or purple and blue being "bi" is a last 20 years thing.
I got thrown out of my best friend's house after I made both his wife and his infant twins cry due to an episode triggered by seeing them swaddled in baby blue and baby pink blankets on top of white sheets. Am I the asshole, reddit?
Presented without comment.>>580154438Yeah, both sides are annoying in this situation. It sucks because I do genuinely like those colors.
>>580157469>deadpuppyanimal abusers deserve the rope
Was Medic a nazi during WW2?
We got a number one payload royaleYeah, TF2, we 'bout to get down (get down)Ten kills on the board right nowJust wiped out the BLU teamMy Heavy just got downedI ubered him, now we're pushing south-boundNow we're in the 2Fort streetsLook at the point, go to the marked sheetMarked sheet, marked sheet, marked sh-, marked sh-Take me to your server to play team fortress today. You can take me to 2fort but dustbowl no way. I really want to, rocket jump with you. We can be pro 6s players. Pro 6s players.
>>580163498Men in his unit called him the Bavarian Butcher for a reason
>>580163819I read it with Silkee's voice
>>580136125>FoSYou took away vulnerability from Steak and gave it to FoS but limited it to holster where it will never apply while using Steak.>GRU>revertBack when GRU had mini-crit debuff, it also had -50% damage penalty downside.>ENYou meant to ambush someone, punch once then back jump rev. That's the entire gimmick. You can not use EN like GRU, nor you'd like to.>Warrior's spiritNot bad with a Vaccinator Medic at your tail.>>580134687>SteakVulnerability is there for you to gauge a risk (ig. you lost your Medic) then scram away, or mentally locking you at using FoS for ranged damage mitigation while going in a fight.I'm not saying change is bad but it needs to be play tested, I doubt removing the vulnerability would encourage player to use anything else with it anyway.>>580133942The issue is no one wants to give shotguns a try until you are at 750 units distance. Cozy Camper require full charged rifles to negate flinches which takes like 3 seconds, until that time a Heavy would rip you to shreds.Once you buff Heavy with extra lunchbox slots and pocket health kits, class will lose its already nonexistent depth and comp players will either find a way to abuse it or whine to Valve until they revert it.
it will never be toppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtWgUVk6cJw
>>580134687>>580170409Speaking of Shotgun Heavy, I think just the addition of being able to switch to it while revving down could be an amazing thing.Basically if you're disengaging you could just switch to it instead of just revving down and hopping away.
they should re add the timer to casual capture the flag
>>5801412912 weeks
>>580177674Lol sister!!
It's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4lFUi0JqBs
I posted this Sonic Heroes TF2 crossover fan list a while ago. I've improved it since then.Scout, Heavy and Medic make up Team Sonic. Scout moves fast like Sonic. Heavy's great strength makes him a match for Knuckles. Much like Tails, Medic likes to support his friends."Awh, that freakin' egghead tricked us!" - Scout when he falls for one of Eggman's traps"Keep hiding inside robot, coward!" - Heavy when he sees Eggman"<maniacal laughter> The best medicine!" - Medic after killing many of Eggman's robotsSniper, Spy and Engineer would make up Team Chaotix. If you underestimate either of these odd bunches, you'll end up on the floor before you can reconsider. Spy uses stealth tactics like Espio. Sniper is like Vector, he's mellow and reliable. Engineer is Charmy, people wave him away as useless, only to get stung."Blood, I can clean out of my suit, but this?" - Spy in swamp levels"Take a picture of ya head Eggman! It'll last longer than the actual one." - Sniper at first boss fight"I'm no expert, but this thing might fly!... Actually, I am an expert. It can fly." - Engineer at the flower in Frog ForestDemoman, Soldier and Pyro would be Team Dark. They are all destructive classes, who inflict grievous damage on anyone who gets in their way. Soldier is like Shadow because he moves quickly, and can destroy enemies in the blink of an eye. Demoman is like E-123 Omega, he views his enemies as obstacles instead of actual people.He kills them without forethought or remorse, fueled by his consumption of alcohol. Pyro is like Rouge (NOT because he's a girl) because he's a specialist, who prefers to use other techniques than fighting people upfront."Soon as I blow that Eggman to pieces, I'm done with you two lassies." - Demoman to his teammates upon starting the first level"Oh yeah! This airspace belongs to America!" - Soldier when him and his team fly through bonus rings"Mmmph!" - PyroSo that's it guys. Please let me know what you think. Improvements maybe?
>>580180307so what about Neo Metal Sonic
>>580177674they both owe me baby making sex
>>580180307How autistic do you have to be to come up with this?
>>580181918
Let it die.
>>580189538Stfu tard.
>>580131082woah, fempyro again?! hopefully no one reminds you to include your steam group into the OP!
>>580190809thanks for reminding us sister!
>>580190809Starting to think she doesn't include the steam group to gatekeep.
>>580191147That sucks, we all know that gatekeeping is a bad thing.
The only gate I'm keeping is the one on DeGroot Keep! CHAAAAAARGEEEE!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzyHljGQmbU
>>580191728based
>>580191502Yeah, this general when she's posting and Tans Furtress 2 are no different anyways!
>>580163498>>580166787
>TansESL moment
>>580163498No dumbass, he was just a buddist. Unfortunate timing.
>>580195173That's a spelling error not a language error.
>>580170409Congrats anon, you repeated info while adding nothing of substance.
>>580195173Helping you gatekeep sister, why are you mad.
>>580195603same difference
>>580174000Revving down is an intended weakness of the minigun, being able to switch to the shotgun negates that almost entirely, so that's a bad idea.
>>580195173>implying they aren't talking about people who sunbathe when they're not wearing fursuitsWho's the real ESL here?
>>580195943Yes. But as is, shotgun heavies are really just people who are bored of lunchbox items regardless of how much more optimal they are compared to the shotguns.Besides, the minigun also has the main weakness of needing massive amount of exposure to do just as much/more damage than burst damage weapons such as SBL/RL/GL, the shotgun with heavy mobility even if it were able to be switched to in the middle of rev-down is seriously not that big of a deal.
>>580196316>>580195943
Mamma: we have-a the Mobstuh at homeThe Mobstuh at home:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npN7B7HSEuk
>>580196826Yeah sure and people are just fine with GRU negating his (out of combat) mobility weakness because "It makes him less reliant on a team with engi." or just how much more optimal the food 2ndaries are because spammable medium/small health kits that lowers the amount of his downtime are just that good.But God forbid he's allowed to use his shotgun more by switching to it faster to chase people around corners faster.
>>580197271Correct.
>>580174000if you want to switch to a shotgun faster from the minigun, just use the panic attack, that's what its for
>>580195626I criticize and some nerd becomes buttmad to lay down paragraphs long bullshit. I comment superficial stuff and you complain.How about you people keep bad ideas to yourself, or at least try to play the class in-depth before shitting on every item it has?I'm tired of some 2k hours tomi-wich-GRU heavy coming here and treat the whole board as illiterates as if he tried to push away from his own comfort zone.
>>580197575The PA's faster deploy time is such a shoed in stat that doesn't fit and is just shoed in when they changed it to not just be a Shotgun Beggar's. Also its downside of having garbo spread beyond 2 shots makes it pretty ass.
>>580197817I recommend you calm down, take your own advice, and stop projecting your insecurities onto others.
>>580198201uh no its not, it has quickswitch so you can swap to it in a panicthe spread can also be almost fully negated by using it semi auto instead of full autoyour kind of a noob
https://youtu.be/cB_PjTfKiWoThe OG panic attack was bad, the nostalgia for it is artificial
>>580202586It would have been cool on Heavy if it didn't have the retarded health mechanic that made it worthless past point blank. Load it up while traveling to the front to rape someone in 1v1, or after revving down and hopping behind a corner to rape someone trying to chase you. Maybe Engi, too, but generally any downtime you have is spent repairing/upgrading stuff.It was just a flat-out retarded idea on Solider and Pyro though, even without the health mechanic.
>>580203840Or you could just use any other shotgun or your minigun for those situations for a better outcome
have you ever spychecked so much you started seeing spys in reality
>>580205272https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_V20uOSkPs
>>580204614You can also use any rocket launcher other than the Beggar's, yet people still equip it.
>>580203840>Shoot with panic attack at a range slightly past point blank>30ish damage>Do the same with stock/family/reserve>50-60ish damageHoly shit I didn't know how bad the Panic Attack is.
>>580205514The beggars has multiple actual benefits, whereas the original panic attack didn't
>>580206286https://youtu.be/8RZFaS9gynE?t=118it doesn't have random bullet spread so its better than stock shotgun :)
>>580206601...You retarded nigger I'm talking about a hypothetical Panic Attack that didn't suck ass.
>>580206286The PA is more for point-blank quick swaps for classes that have enough mobility to close the distance (soldier, engi, pyro, heavy, in that order), because it does more damage if all the pellets hitEvery other shotgun is better at mid-range
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6IHZO8zXAk
>>58020716Nobody can read your mind, racism outside of /b/ anon
>>580207385Dipshit, it had upside at base on release (faster reload + firing speed), which then got significantly buffed in Gun Mettle, and then they let you hold your clip in Tough Break. It's not like it was a straight downgrade without the health mechanic.
>>580207385He's right about the weapon homo. Go back to where you came from if the nigger word upsets you so much
Why is this general so fucking mental, if some guy wanted to post demofloyd images let him dont do shit like pretending to be him to paint him as a boogeyman and give him random labels like turkish
>>580207797It was always a straight downgrade before its current iteration
>>580208517Sound like a thing the turk would say...
