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>Latest patch:
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>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

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>Unofficial Wiki
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https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
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https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>580147883
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Why is mokrill allowed to be an unkillable giga rapist at every stage of the game?
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>get match into eu server
>people already max level tilt by the 5 min mark and threatening to report people for throwing
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That Anon from the last thread was right
Bomb Geist rules
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>>580227664
NTR Antagonist privileges
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Why is mercurial magnum allowed to be the best gun item in the game?
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>>580227664
>-15 hp per boon
>scorn tier 1 upgrade gives you 25 hp per boon back
He's nerfed now.
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Nerf every single hero that isn't silver
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what if they just removed shop investments
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>>580227664
scorn has to go through walls okay he needs it
and he needs one gorillion move speed
and he needs access to sewers
and he needs a panic outplay button that is also an insanely strong pick tool
and he needs a lane wide disarm
and he needs to have 7k health
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>>580227997
they should so you can just stack purps
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>>580227664
because you're brown
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP1Msu-oWRU
my fucking splitpushing HERO
WE NEED HIM BACK NOW MORE THAN EVER
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imagine if yoshi made an update and it was just "wraith gun damage increased by 30%"
people would have a meltdown
yet
you can easily increase your personal accuracy by 30% via aimlabs training for a few months
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>>580228771
this just shows how low skill the game was even 1 year ago. nowadays even in ritualist that guy would get raped, then the enemy team could easily force a 5v6 midboss and win
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"?"
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>>580229079
Which is doubly funny because nigshifters and eternoid strimmers thought they were hot shit then, and they still think they're hot shit now
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>>580229146
"!"
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>>580228771
we had this ~3 months back with wallbreaker victor
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I'm being 100% serious here, i have 1600 hours in this game and i still do not understand how the fuck do people have bullets to shoot the wave AND shoot me in lane. I have to magdump every single wave to have a chance at getting prio before reloading. If i shoot at my enemies at all they get prio. But my enemies seem to effortlessly get prio and constantly shoot me without ever reloading, its so fucking annoying
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Metro fell off so bad he's getting clipfarmed by fucking piggy in ascendant lobbies, how embarrassing
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>>580228859
>do months of boring drudgery to improve my aim
>doesn't matter because i'm playing wraith and 90% of my game is spent shooting creeps or throwing homing cards
>when i do shoot a player they're either ulted by me so i can't miss or my team is drowning them in CC
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>>580229359
You sliding bro? Melee secure?
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>>580229454
isnt piggy a pro player? a cuck but also a pro player?
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>>580229454
>first time searching for piggy
>this shows up
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>>580229359
SLIDE
SLIDE YOU DENSE FUCK, as much as you possibly can
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>>580229632
>a cuck
qrd on this?
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>>580229632
Nowhere near pro, he was a perma low-eternus pre-update who got famous for being the support player guy. All of his in-game builds are complete dogshit and he gets mogged by other streamers on every single character he plays. Also he's a literal cuck. But he's still shitting on metro lol
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>>580227664
Mad? he's become an necessary anticancer to all the recent movementslop heroes.
Where others fly, Mo & Krill burrow and combo people in place
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>>580229823
got ntrd by his long distance gf
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>>580229823
he admitted publically on twitter on his gf being fucked by other men. note that there was literally no one forcing him/drama to cause him admit this, the only explanation of him doing it is because he gets sexual pleasure from being humiliated
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>>580230046
>>580230050
Man, this community is actually so fuckin gay haha
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>>580229079
It's not just a matter of skill actually, the game is a LOT different now from then macro-wise
Look at the wraith dying in the last clip with only a 60s death timer at 33 minutes. Nowadays a death at ~22 minutes would probably be that long
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HAPPENING
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they should give viper a skirt when her visuals are finished so that I can look up it when she's riding on the rail
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>>580230224
Mod pizza fucking sucks.
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>>580230224
not working on a holiday lil nigga
>>580230210
guy got cheated on and this anon is hyping that up as him sitting as a cuck in the corner, she was a whore simple as that
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>>580230224
>yoshi online on the forum
OH FUGGGG
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>>580230224
its labor day, lots of people are out and ordering food and such
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>>580230287
Its probably one moron at the office going
>GUYS MOD PIZZA IS SOOOO GOOD YOU JUST HAVE TO GET THE RIGHT ORDER
And they have nothing better nearby besides dominos/pizza hut tier
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which part of "late september" do you guys not understand
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>>580230508
"or earlier"
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>>580229454
every other deadlock content creator has a video of them clowning on metro. who cares
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>>580228859
incorrect, playing aimlabs teaches you how to aim in aimlabs
playing deadlock will teach you how to aim against real players and their erratic movement and constant varying speeds and distances
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i unironically don't mind M&K and think he's fairly well balanced, if annoying at times
he's just one of those gank happy heroes who makes you feel powerless when they're allowed free reign of the map and your team refuses to make callouts, rotate, or cooperate

if anything i think Abrams needs to be buffed up to be comparable in his own niche (whatever that's supposed to be because uhhhhh yeah)

>>580229359
munster boolets and on-hit damage probably
i rarely see people sweaty enough to do that downslope stutterslide free ammo dogshit but it does happen sometimes
some people like Inverness can cook the wave super fast with Flame Dash but it does open them up to denies

>>580230224
>>580230287
>>580230492
lowkey MID pizza
thin puffy crust is the worst, makes me feel like i'm biting into crispy toilet paper
you can hit a local joint or even buy a frozen pizza to gussy up with toppings and it'll be just as good (if not better) and cheaper
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>>580228771
even tho he's complaining like a lil bitch in this, credit to surefour hes been campaigning deadlock since the beginning, i remember one of the first videos leaked was him explaining how souls worked and the base guardians and shit all pulled from playtester forums
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>>580230849
ok just play reactive tracking scenarios then
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>>580230365
Getting cheated on is one thing but then writing up a long detailed google doc about it and showing it to all your twitter followers is a little questionable.
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>used to be decent with mina
>don't play her for a few months
>feels like shes completely worthless every time I play her now
What did they do to her, or what did people figure out?
I genuinely cannot do anything on her anymore.
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>>580231338
realistically all the casuals from ognb have quit so the community as a whole is much more skilled
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>>580231576
Well I need to figure out how to play her for real then because I get my dick slammed in and it bums me out cause she was a favorite of mine.
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>>580230224
but yoshi said end of september
maybe they're updating TF2
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>late september
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Why doesnt geist just let people cum inside her non-stop to absorb more life energy?
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>>580232229
She's a classy woman
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maybe he learned that you should give late dates so everyone is pleasantly surprised instead of mad
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why doesnt rem just tell his little helpers to crawl into people's ears and eat their brains
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>>580232229
Oathkeeper absorbs the energy not her so it'd have to be handjobs.
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>>580231292
>calling out a whore for being harlot is bad
sounds based to me
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mindboggling how common it is for players to duck fights for the first 25 minutes and then consistently take the worst fights imaginable for the rest of the game over and over
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>>580231292
Vile Woman should be shamed.
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>>580232586
>>580233056
I'm kinda surprised, /dlg/ is having all the right takes. By /vg/ standards you guys are pretty mentally sound
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Posting a google doc about how your GF humilated you to a bunch of internet strangers is not based. It's not like she's an eceleb too
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cool, so my team just loses? cool.
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borgor
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>>580233327
>t. Foid
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>>580232517
>nursing geist handjob
i see no problem
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>boxes spawn
>calico gets 400-500 uncontested souls, possibly more
>this happens every time they spawn, scaling with game time
remove these retarded ass tunnels
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>Doorman is literal deadweight F tier retard pick for his entire lifespan
>They keep nerfing/buffing pointless shit like bell damage etc
>Joseph Charles comes along and figures out a meme way to play Doorman that is far less effective than just holding M1 as Haze or anyone above 40 IQ playing Mina
>Still bottom of the barrel F tier retard pick because it takes way too much effort to do this playstyle well, and it's still like B+ at best
>Valve spends the next 3 months completely gutting his playstyle over and over again

Genuinely what're we doing here
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>>580233895
nah just open them up to other characters, any character that has a slide that physically looks like you should be able to fit should be able to use it to go into them
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>>580234112
>pocket coat can now enter the tunnels (as well as pocket by extension)
>mina bats can teleport into the tunnels
>vyper can slide into the tunnels
>viscous can squish his goo body into the tunnel
>victor can detach his head and roll it into the tunnels
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>>580230046
>>580230050
>>580231292
>>580233327
idk what's going on with (((e-celebs))) and personally idgaf
but like why is every human nowadays comfortable with broadcasting their personal life to everyone on the internet
i mean it's already weird as fvck digging into the lives of movie stars or singers to dissect their scandals for #HotGoss and publish it in magazines which people BUY but seriously
it's a bunch of literal whos being publicly analyzed by literallier whos in some bollywood 'Shlingo Bingo got zorgus borgus'd by Shungus Gabungus and THEN, THIS SHIT _________ HAPPENED !!!'

social media is weird idgi
have some shame, or rather self respect to not lay yourself bare at the superchat of JohnChungus1337
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>>580233327
see >>580232586
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>>580234557
if you get transformed into a rabbit by sinclair you can go into the tunnel under this new underground paradigm
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>>580227664
because Mo is the sexiest hero and Valve needs to sell cosmetics, obviously
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>>580234905
in theory yes but the combat lock would stop you
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>>580234581
hes just a nordcuck
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>>580234581
>mfw the way you type
https://youtu.be/oCIo4MCO-_U?is=yY8wd6YWeUR2xpaz
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>>580235394
raped eceleb watching hands typed this post thinking it would unrape him
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is this the perfect graves build?
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>>580235394
i'm gonna put you in the next episode of Ow My Balls!
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>>580235556
oh believe me I wish I got paid even one penny to play video games. Nah you in fact talk like a fag.
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>tank begs for critical midboss call
>nothing happens and they get the rejuv instead
>lose
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>>580231174
no, because those are not deadlock hitboxes and movement
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Terrible thread once again, lads
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>>580235697
one time I had a dream that that movie came true
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>>580235735
>she thinks that post was calling her an eceleb
holy raped... this general was doomed the moment eceleb superchat troonies weren't gatekept...
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Is there any reason why Graves' root can procc several times in a row from one cast?
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>>580235735
>I wish I was a heckin streamerino
sorry, but unless you're a troon or a dysgenic Asian mutt than you can't stream deadlock
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>>580236653
why are you repeatedly walking over it horse nigger
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>>580236653
yes, so she can siege builds ridiculously quickly
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>>580236653
you guys have to accept that mo and graves are the characters design for disabled mentally stunted children

they will always have broken op shit because those type of people need to have a 0 skill character they can feel good about
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Oh.. OH MY GOD
Is that a bright green colored line with a loud sound that plays when placed? AAAIIIEEE SAVE ME YOSHI NERF NERF NERF I NEED TO BE ABLE TO WALK INTO IT WITH NO CONSEQUENCES
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>>580237007
DELICIOUS MOVEMENTSLOPPER TEARS
https://deadlock.wiki/images/d/d8/Krill_use_power4_05.mp3
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>clip Abrams with one bullet from 50 miles away
>SOMEONE HELP ME TAKE OUT ABRAMS
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>phantom strike
>shoulder charge
>punch
I don't see what's so OP about this graves character
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>>580237475
HE KEEPS COMING
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>melee mcginnis
>in ranked
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>apearing Vin's vision for 0.5 seconds
>lose 1,500 health from 50 metres away
Okay
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Just one more month until the item update, hopefully it's as amazing as the matchmaking update.
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I'm a fat old ugly faggot with a brown dick and my fav character is graves because she's a teenager
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>>580237663
in a normal shooter you'd just be dead.
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>>580237475
>nuke 99% of Abraham's HP while also proccing Spirit Burn and Mystical Reverb
>abrahams_not_dead.mp3 plays despite him being 1 second away from death
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>>580236218
>"raped eceleb hands typed this post"
>"uhhhm actually that WASNT implying you were a 'raped eceleb' you delusional tranny"
??? explain how it wasn't implying that exact thing? Trick question, you can't, because you did.

kys tard
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tell me ONE reason to not buy grit as first item every single game
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>>580238297
>shoot abram a couple times after clearing the first wave
>"WHY is this guy not going down??"
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>>580238430
delays magic carpet rush
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>>580238021
holy shit brownoids are based
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>>580237897
I hope they make us vote for the items so they can drip feed this update for over a month.
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>>580238421
read nigga
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>>580238421
he said "eceleb watching hands"
as in your hands are the hands of a cuck viewer
and he's right
kill yourself
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12 minutes into the game and mo and krill has max burrow and 3k hp. he is stealing all your camps. how do you stop him? you can't
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sex with shiv
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>"ABRAMS JUST WON'T DIE"
>*Abrams dies*
>...
>"WE TOOK THE DETECTIVE"
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>>580238645
>>580238651
improper grammar so it's invalidated anyway

nice try ladies, maybe next time
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>>580238667
stfu gay niqqa
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dear diary, today I found it I'm just as tall as Celeste
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>>580238812
silence nigger
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>>580235637
>extra charge
>lightning scroll
>carpet
no
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>stfu gay niqqa
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SOMEBODY HELP ME KILL THIS GAY NIGGA
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>>580238812
this filthy nigger really said "niqqa" on 4chan
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>>580238994
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>>580238810
>improper grammar
No, it isn't.
If you want to talk about grammar, where is your correct capitalization, why are you using the comma incorrectly after ladies?
Why are you typing in sentence fragments?
Where are your full stops?

It sounds to me like raped eceleb watching hands typed that post because you lack the capability to put together a coherent post; probably the shaking from all the raping.
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>>580238662
I don't give a fuck about Camps
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>>580239179
this but with the whole economy. fuck souls I'm here to fight
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boxes > camps anyway
camps take forever and do damage to you
boxes are free and you get stats on top sometimes too
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>>580239163
>where is your correct capitalization, why are you using the comma incorrectly after ladies?
it's deep up your ass and I'm a lot better at reading and language than you are

phrase your dumbass shitposts better. "raped e-celeb watching hands" wow shakespeare has truly entered the thread
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>>580238810
>im illiterate so its improper grammar
LMAO
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>>580237396
>trying to force "movement slop" in a valve game with 3d space, wall running, double jumping, etc
You're not winning this fight lil bro.
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>>580239271
you got anymore of them pixels?
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Reminder that Silver is DIRTY and STINKY
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update this week
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>>580239308
Finishing off a camp should give you a random stat bonus scaled to the level of camp
Yay or nay?
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>>580239608
Even more of a reason for someone to farm all game and let objectives and their team get raped
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>>580239509
I didn't realize how bad the video compression was. There isnt an in game clip maker yet right?
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>>580239540
on the kirkiversery? yoshi is telling me it's stable.. please god
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>>580239421
I'm raping your mouth little niggerlet bro
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>>580240038
>kirkiversery
what the fuck is the kirkiversery?
>>
deadlock more like deadgock
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how is it that my apollo riposte into heavy melees get parried with about thirteen seconds between the end of the stun and the end of the parry window whereas enemy apollo gets a full heavy melee and time for a small melee if icefrog is feeling especially vindictive
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>>580240148
the anniversary of charlie kirk getting kirked because he had the audacity to say that black pilots are probably shitty pilots
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>>580239736
You could make boxes and camps give 1 soul and there'd still be people farming while your objectives get eaten
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>>580240267
Oh it's already been a year? Holy fuck, that is actually insane, and like usual nothing happened from it.
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>>580240267
He deserved it thoughbeit
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>>580239831
There'll never be an ingame clip maker because they want you to use the steam recording function for that, but it works well enough.
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>>580239390
it actually is, there's no hyphen
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>>580239513
not as stinky as paige's fat swamp ass
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>>580240574
imagine the smell
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>>580240267
Israel didn't kill him because he said something about nigger pilots
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he's not dead

WAKE UP PEOPLE
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>>580240427
what's even weirder is that people actually remember the kirkiversary
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I LIVE AGAIN
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>>580240872
MY TURN
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>>580240148
tiktok zoomer shit
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>the last 9 months of vindicta going from semi broken to very broken
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Ah okay there are a bunch of alphoids itt
That explains it
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deadlock indian saturation meter: 95%
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>>580241107
is that the new "sigma male"

nobody knows what it means but it's provocative
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>>580240986
>vindicta
>broken
...And other things bricks believe
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>>580241274
t.vindicta downplayer
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>>580241246
Gen Alpha
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vindicta is unironically essentially perfectly balanced

she gets ganked once in the mid game or gets picked and she loses the game on her own
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>>580241363
can't wait until they start calling 25 year old zoomers old
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>>580240617
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I really wish they'd revert Dynamo's pre-T3 range nerf, even if they keep the T3 range as is. I don't know what the fuck I'm meant to do against Infernus in lane, especially if my lane partner is someone like Drifter. What do I do?
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>>580240869
Kirk is to trannies what trannies are to chuds.
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>>580241538
play defensively, punish over extension with stomps or ult
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>>580241538
Run up to him and stomp him
Then do it again
And again
Soon enough he'll get so mad he'll start repeatedly way overextending to get you and that's when you've won
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just a few months ago she gained the suit of cards update, wonder if any other heroes will get upgraded, im thinkin grey talon's owl in some way
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>>580241917
talon, yamato, mo are most likely to get some sort of small rework. maybe warden
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>>580241840
But I take like 300 damage in 2 seconds just not being behind cover
>>580241676
But my lane partner IS going in and dying due to trying to fight a 1v2
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>>580241917
>Grey talon owl update
>Grey talon can now alt-cast to ride his owl around the map
>Able to use his Charged shot, and Spirit snare while riding his owl
>Alt-cast the owl again send it towards a low hp enemy
Enjoy your Grey Talon owl update.
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>>580242065
nothing you can do about a shitty teammate, just mute and ignoring his whining
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>>580241538
Just in general, not specifically lane, I don't know what the fuck to do with Dynamo anymore. Why did they change him so fucking much, pulse is shit now and ult does nothing at low Elo
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>>580240454
that's fine, but then you have to concede that so did every BLM martyr
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>>580239375
Seems like you are unable to read at all.
And Shakespeare's plays are full of jokes like that, he has many "your mom" jokes, many rape jokes, and has very crude humor, I don't think you have ever seen a play Shakespeare wrote.
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>>580242394
ok
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>>580242353
Ok not like I gave a fuck about them either
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what if unstoppable was called unstompable and it made you immune to dynamo 1 and lash 1
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what if transcendent cooldown amde u trans in real life
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what if you weren't brown and a zoomer
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>>580242715
Building it every game
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yo we're not brown

we're a creamy beige
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did something happen to warden why did I win out of nowhere
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uh-oh dude! looks like the enemy troglodyte #5 abusing paige pressed 1 in your general direction now you have to take 3000 damage!
it's a tough price to pay but we need to keep the game accessible to even the most retarded of niggers bro!
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>>580243369
I wish I was abusing paige
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is this the perfect billy build?
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>>580243369
this was the nigga standing in the fire during raid time
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>>580242517
deal
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>>580243463
press three ticks on him in the character select screen and make sure your dilation device of choice is ready and you're good to go
>>580243574
the fire is impossible to see while eight heroes are spamming shit directly underneath a walker and you're snared for 500 years because of the point and click snare the entire lane for free move
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how the FUCK is this possible for a graves to be this fed
39k souls, 15 kills, ZERO deaths
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>>580243654
dribble retard can't figure out how to move in his movement shooter
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>>580243704
graves is strongest character in deadlock.
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>>580243716
fo shizzle mah nizzle lemmie dribble up a cool three pointa in this hoop shoota while we drink malt liquor and rob da nearby gas station befo we hop back on da gayme
good thing there are characters that even us common folx can enjoy!
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>>580243654
no I meant like I want to donkey punch paige
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I wish abrams ult gave additional damage if you hit someone out of the sky. That shit is so satisfying but the damage feels disappointing
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>>580244485
yeah he should 1 shot people if he ults u
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>>580244453
I know I'm venting my frustration and deliberately misunderstood your post.
Here's a picture that I love, as an apology.
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>be me
>queue up deadlock
>have retarded team
>call them nigger faggots
>nigger faggots get triggered
>have to carry them
>teabag enemy team and call them parry faggots too
>everyone triggered
>mass report
>comm banned
>no ranked
Why is this normal? Valve is an American company and America has the freedom of speech. I am an American citizen and they are infringing on my rights. Why is NA filled with troons,faggots and niggers???!?!? I don't want to play standart. No rank upgrade in that mode.
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>>580244383
are you okay? stinky having a lil melty?
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>>580244785
blow it out your ass nigger
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>>580244618
>fan art in the style of tamers
what a time to be alive
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>>580243557
>Lifestrike
No this shit is worthless
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>>580244618
I probably knew that's what you were doing, forgive me, I am just the slightest big horny and it is probably clouding the thought processes of my precious 128 IQ (not great not terrible) brain. Here's a picture of Paige, imagine slapping her across the mouth until she sucked your dick like a good little slut and then gaslighting her so she doesn't tell the cops. I hope this will soothe your frustration.
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>Silver wolf form
>Take favorable fight
>Get everyone low
>my team just runs away
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>>580245061
>life strike is bad
You fell for the psyop congratulations
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WHY IS MY TEAM FIGHTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP AFTER THE ENEMY GOT REJUV
WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN
WHAT'S THE STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE OF FIGHTING RIGHT AFTER THEY GET IT WHEN THEY HAVE ALL SIX UP INSTEAD OF PLAYING NEAR BASE
WHY
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>>580245213
The goyim is telling me the slop in its trough is delicious, high quality food
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>>580245328
bored
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>>580245343
Post rank right now
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>>580245403
I FUCKING WANT OUT OF BRONZE AND I FUCKING CAN'T BECAUSE I ALWAYS GET TEAMS LIKE THIS
I CANNOT PULL MYSELF BY MY FUCKING BOOTSTRAPS
WHY IS MATCHMAKING SO GODDAMNED FUCKED
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Can someone explain to me why life strike is bad on billy? Why wouldnt you want percent based healing on bashdown?
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>>580245520
you gotta yell at them like dogs, "THEY HAVE REJUV PLAY IN BASE" yell that shit over mic shamelessly
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>>580245556
THEY are are downplaying bashdown because THEY know its busted freelo
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>>580245343
wouldn't the jews be telling you that
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Where are the lighting scroll buffs?
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>>580244654
>be you
>screech like the retarded monkey that you are
>get shocked when they put a muzzle on you to stop your screeching
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I really feel like i'll never be good at this game because i just cant lane at all
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>>580242504
>nooooo don't call me out for being wrong again!!!
Can't read
Doesn't understand the words he's using
Is retarded
Doesn't make arguments

You sound like that league of legends play anons were arguing with in the last thread.
You aren't that retarded faggot, are you? Because it sure seems like you are.
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>>580246232
Start watching joe chuck
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>>580246292
>Start watching a garbage onetrick player who deals an average of 5k damage a game
????
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Why does bashdown proc melee items abilities bebops uppercut doesn't?
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>>580246363
You are worse than a garbage one trick player who deals an average of 5k damage a game, start watching him, you'll learn something.
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>>580246207
>n-no he said mean words on the internet
>n-no I can't hit the mute button
>I am triggered over text on screen
You are the ape here, nigger faggot.
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>>580246487
Cause Bebop still hasn't gotten his visual rework
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>>580246553
Why the fuck would i try to learn from someone who plays a joke playstyle and deals no damage instead of literally any other good player out there?
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>>580246673
Lil gup gets torn apart by goldfish but he's here puffing out his gills insisting he has nothing to learn from a dolphin because it can't match up to a whale
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>>580246576
>try to play game
>some retard is yelling racial slurs everytime he hits his push to talk
no I will not mute, I will simply report
enjoy your mute anon :)
maybe don't be a racist chud next time
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>>580246906
You're in out of your depth
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>>580246673
Where are the good players? Warden was stealth op for months but no one knew how to build him.
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Joechuck is the faker of deadlock
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>>580246931
Remember to dilate your axe wound too xister!.
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if warden gets nerfed but wraith doesn't i will lose all faith in yoshi
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>>580247030
Dunno but telling people to learn from joecuck of all people is laughable
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They are still building warden wrong btw, he is a spirit tank that only gets like 2 gun items max.
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>>580247037
>duuuur you're a tranny because I say so
the report button was made for spergs like you
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>>580247175
Only troons, niggers and faggots demand everything bend to their worldview. So which one are you? Some people aren't completely lobotomized and can hit the mute button. That was made for bitches like you.
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>>580238810
>>580242504
anytime someone in a match talks about competitive players or their other eceleb idols, always remember it's fat ESL retards like this. we should've gatekept harder.
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>>580247160
his shooting speed scales with spirit lil bro, that's what's being exploited right now
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Start building warden like spirit abrams
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I have 100 hours in this game and I still don't know how to play it...
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>>580247794
i have 550 hours and i barely know what im doing
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>>580247794
Start watching vegas guides
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>>580247506
>that's what's being exploited right now
he's had that property for years
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>>580246207
>>580246931
oh look another pathetic troon faggot crying because they were called a name on the internet.

deadlock (and the world) would be a genuinely better place if you soft-skinned rent boys would just ack. the greatest mistake yoshi and his team of mentally impaired baboons was opening up this game to fucking theatre kids who want to treat it like a roblox fur server.
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>>580243227
celeste on the other hand is still as boring as ever
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what we spergin about tonight
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>>580246232
start taking estrogen injections
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>>580248024
Gaming meth.
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RAPE HOLLIDAY
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>>580247930
>watch a nepobaby
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>3 game loss
>yoshi assigns multiple feeders on the enemy team for my eomm pity win
yeah this game is ass
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>>580248595
>enemy team has 3 0 obj damage players
hmm
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>>580248404
Bounce Pad Down!!!
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I don't like the art that gives Holliday a gross giant ass
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I don't like holliday in general
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>>580249209
It should be big because she's jumping around everywhere but not fat
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i hate al lthe owmen in this game either negresses, girlbosses, negress girlbosses, or fujos

absolutely disgusting characters
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I didn't like holliday at first, but then i realized i was slut shaming, and if she wants to suck my dick i should just let her
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>teammate screaming at me to push walker push walker push walker
>there's always a Dynamo or Warden near it
>we get three picks
>whole team finally goes to walker
>four of us die to Dynamo + Seven double ult
Am I the stupid one
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>>580249487
>owmen
fucking based
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>>580249524
i literally never get dyanmo ulted because i always play away from my team if enemy has dynamo
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I AM THE COSMOS
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>>580249812
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all the women in this game are super womanlets I could break all of their bones with just one mating slam
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>>580250147
you wouldn't last 5 seconds in the tunnels
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>>580229359
propor positioning so you're killing more troopers at once
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So do you guys think they're ever going to open the subway to everyone?
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So do you guys think they're ever going to open Paige's holes to everyone?
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>>580250648
No because she opens them for dogs only
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Silver ult should have an active in wolf form that requires bloodlust to activate and reduce damage from nearby enemies
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>>580250802
typical white woman
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>>580250802
Silver is so lucky
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>>580250202
tier list of female deadlock characters I think I could kill by just fucking:

- calico: she's black so she'd vaporize at the mere sight of my bwc
- Celeste: very flexible, I'd break some bones in her body but she'd live for sure
- Graves: she's a teenager, nuff said
- Haze: she could give me a run for my money but she'd ultimately die the moment my yellowy radioactive cum touches her inner walls
- Holliday: womanlet, she'd break in two slams at most
- Ivy: she's probably the only character I think I'd have trouble fuckkilling just by virtue of being made of stone
- Lady Giest: she's big so she could take a few slams. would most likely survive
- McGinnis: super strong, would survive for sure
- Mina: womanlet, I'd just put some garlic on my penis and it'd be a done deal
- Paige: womanlet, it'd take a few slams since she's battle-hardened by dogs but nothing I couldn't kill
- Paradox: her helmet is flimsy, would crack easily for sure
- Silver: it'd be a head-to-head match, would live for sure
- Vindicta: womanlet with a tiny hp pool, would break with just the initial slam
- Vyper: same deal as Silver
- wraith: see calico
- Yamato: strong, would survive for sure
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New shitter player here. How do you counter celeste bouncy ball thing? I just finished a 55 minute match and her ball was blasting my shit for 4k damage and it said I got hit by it 7 times but I gotta be honest I don't even remember seeing it in the teamfight. I might be retarded but I'm struggling with visual clarity in team fights when everyone is doing shit
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>>580251554
celeste's ball is just lich ult, spread out and don't mindlessly follow creep waves
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>>580251440
If this isn't evidence enough that Yoshi needs to drop the patch I don't know what is.
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>>580250147
Isn't Geist like 6ft1?
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>>580251026
do lesbians even have tops and bottoms? aren't they both the bottom
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>>580251860
As she should be. ALL women should be 6ft+, womanlets are a plague
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>>580251967
uhhhh true?
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>>580251803
The freaks are coming out of the woodwork
Or maybe they're just dropping the facade
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>>580252220
aw man link must have gotten pegged really hard here. Do you think they pegged him so hard that his asshole went inside out?
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>>580251554
Celeste is just fucked up right now in general. But yeah, the only thing you can really do against her ult is to pay attention and spread out. It might be difficult since you're new, but you'll get used to it. I think a good tip is to be actively aware of it, if there's a celeste on the enemy team actively tell yourself "she's going to use the ball, i need to spread out". Don't let yourself forget.
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>>580252328
"celeste's balls could be anywhere", he thought. "watch out for her shining wonder!" he reminded himself
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>>580241917
Wraith is going to get that card update reverted more likely. None of the original roster needs a thinly veiled set of buffs disguised as a "rework".
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>>580252414
I know youre just joking but thinking about stuff like that deliberately makes a huge difference in teamfights. Giving yourself goals for that teamfight like "i need to protect my wraith", "i need to stop lash ult" or "i need to go after Venator" instead of just improvising makes a huge difference. I think it sounds obvious but most people fall into an autopilot play pattern instead of actively thinking about what they should be doing.
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>>580218152
>woke nigger faggots on NA
I love how you can tell when the underage newfag reddit tourists show up
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the deadlock schizos are blooming bros

next big thing confirmed
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>>580247035
Shaker is the opposite of a one trick.
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LMFAO dumbass niggas thinking valve orders from MOD pizza when pagalicis is 10 minutes away
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Why don't we have an ixian female in this shit game yet?
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are there taunts in this game? i'm in a prematch timer thing and the enemy mina said my team needs better fashion consultants. i'm going to kill her
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>>580253479
ye hit middle mouse in the pregame and you can send a quip, mina's a ho
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>>580253443
because ixians are the designated terminally online donut steel race
>token barafaggot character
>token twink character
>token POC character
there's one guy on the dev team who desperately wants to make a sexy demon lady but whenever he says something about it to yoshi they send him away to a mandatory week-long sitdown from sweet baby inc
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>>580253597
ixians are deadlock's version of dota's oglodi doe
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i miss having leaks
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>>580253759
same I like seeing shit we shouldn't see and getting excited over what's coming, BUT it's good that twitter retards aren't relevant anymore
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>>580253759
my diaper leaks when i play rem sometimes :3
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Every other shooter WON, deadlock DIED
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>>580253759
nothing to leak. game is dead, devs have given up

>>580248024
matchmaking as always. 80% lose rate but somehow never derank into a lower tier. this game is not fun at all. i play carry and lose no matter how well or poorly i do. i play full support rem, and lose either way. mm is broken for single players
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Yoshi release the fucking update i wanna play deadlock
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undead girl hero when?
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>>580254551
I want a zombie girl desu
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>>580254551
victor is right there
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phantom strike on all heroes, trust me
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>>580253124
im 29 bro. I just remember a time when freedom of speech existed in this country, sad you never experienced the MW2 lobby days.
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DLSS5 will revolutionize deadlock
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>>580250927
Silver should've just been Jayce
it cannot be overstated how stupid of an idea a conditional ultimate is
actually no, they should
>make her ult manual activation ONLY
>immediately transforms and does a targeted leap, mauling on collision
>can be re-cast after several seconds to forcibly end the curse
>adjust damage numbers so her human form and lycan form are more balanced with each other (they're good at bullshit patches like this so it should be easy)
actuallyly now that i think about it just turn her into Greymane from HotS like put the fries in the bag lil Yo'

>>580251554
you don't
perfect circumstance is someone gets pseudo stunned for like 3 seconds, hiding from their team until her girlballs wear off
BUT if anyone comes within a country mile of you, INCLUDING HER if she has points in shield, it's going back into your team to bounce for a gajillion damage
and if she buys Refresher then like yeah it's happening
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>>580244654
>
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>>580254874
you genuinely sound retarded please tell me ur lying about ur age and trying to act cool
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>>580253217
But doctor... i am pagalici
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>>580255003
>Silver should've just been Jayce
who?
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>>580255182
>you sound retarded for wanting to say whatever you want and for a company in AMERICA to respect freedom of speech
Crazy projection
>>580255132
1st amendment is above a jewish terms of service especially if the company is on American soil
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>>580253124
>gets triggered by no no words
>calls others reddit
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>>580255285
>he is serious
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Silver can have a 20 second ult CD again if you halve all the damage, resists, debuffs and heals her ult gives has and double all the cooldowns on its abilities.
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>>580255475
I don't like Trump he is a pedo. All your wojaks are dogshit, old and completely off the mark. Here let me show you how its done.
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>blood tribute on shiv
huh?
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>>580255475
time to go back niggerfaggot
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>>580255572
if you are building gun why not debuff resist is good
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>>580255003
>league of faggot player opinions
How about you stop saying retarded shit because all of your ideas are bad.
If you don't like it go back to league of faggots.
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>>580255236
gool cuy from schleague of schlegends who beats things with a hammer in hammer mode and shoots things with a cannon in cannon mode
basically Silver but backwards and free and actually A-tier
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>>580255572
We build him gun now lil gup
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is drifter just useless late game from being bad and if he cant get any kills if the game drags out 45+?
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>>580255676
Oh so the guy who called you the "league of faggots player" was right and its some troon shit.
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>>580255793
Even if you're a broke-ass bitch and deal no damage you can still be useful by building ultbot.
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>>580255570
I couldn't care less about your ai slop
>>580255595
>Says niggers while acting like one gets surprised when he is banned
People who rage are no different than wild niggers
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fuck it man I'm just gonna one trick wraith
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>>580255970
>Says niggers while acting like one gets surprised when he is banned
wtf am I reading?
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>wojakfag and AIjeet fighting
We NEED a patch
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>>580255970
>I can't banter because I am a nigger faggot
Peak proof the internet should only be for white men like it was before.
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>>580256148
buying resto locket on rem is the secret to his success since he gives it to whoever hes riding and not himself.
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>>580256150
retarded nigger
>>580256308
"Banter" in question is calling people niggers while fuming like a angry ape
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>>580253124
>someone chooses to play the metafag cancer character with his meta build
>can't call him a nigger faggot without getting banned
Violates my 1st amendment right
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>>580256565
>fuminng like an ape
says the pavement ape replying to a 8 hour old post from last thread
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My wraith just went 3/12, second lowest damage (the lowest was gun ivy)
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>>580256624
>noooo you can't play the game to win you have to sandbag so you don't hurt my feelings
lmao what a baby
how did you survive mw2 lobbies with mental this weak
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>>580256414
locket is my beloved but I'm in very low rank so people are generally too scared to do anything and we lose to inaction
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@580256308
>Gachaslop
Brain replaced with dog and nigger cum.
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>>580256565
No retard its not just calling them niggers its calling them retarded and to play around me. If you could read, you would be able to comprehend what I was saying better. Sadly, you got a low IQ.
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We need a patch ASAP look at the state of general
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I don't think you could slam fuck kill Wraith. I understand the BWC argument but you can tell at a glance she's immunized herself against them and the barrier on her teleport and heal from her cards would let her tank anything.
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Do you think Shiv makes monkey noises during sex?
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>>580256747
You are such a beta male you can't even properly reply to me.
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>>580255132
its so funny when it happened because the retards post like clockwork cause they don't have everyone running to their side to jerk them off in support
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>>580257060
ESL?
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>>580256756
>Explains why he is fuming like an ape
Like i said people who rage are no different than wild niggers you are a nigger
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@580257017
>latinxball
Brain replaced with takis and the bev o algo
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dogshit general
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>paige buffs soon
so excited bwos.
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sex with shiv and silver
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Why the fuck can't you destroy grey faglon's snares
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>>580257212
Nothing I said here was me fuming or being angry. Again you simply do not have a frame of reference for how good games used to be or what banter is. You were raised with safe spaces and when you get out into the real world reality will hit you like a ton of bricks.
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dont you get it i cant die
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god I forgot how much this STINKS
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>>580257343
>>580257212
Nice samefag.
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>>580257627
>I only raged like a nigger bcs of my retarded teammates!! it doesn't count!!!
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I will drain them dry
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>>580257821
>raging means you call me words that hurt my feelings and objectively calling what I do retarded.
ESL Indian.
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>>580257821
>imgur filename
LMAO
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How I wake up knowing that I uninstalled Deadlock the night before
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>>580257989
>Throwing out random slurs until one of them sticks
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>>580253549
we won, i killed her almost instantly and doorman tried to enable a dive that also didn't work
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>>580258329
>Unironically saying the word "slurs" on 4chan
Go back
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>>580255285
>1st amendment is above a jewish terms of service especially if the company is on American soil
How do you not know how the 1st amendment works? I hope youre trolling.
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>>580259428
>Using words to explain things
This is bad somehow keep fuming retard
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>>580228859

Whenever I start doing aimlabs I quit shooting games.

Also doing 30 minutes of movement training in explore NYC is more productive since it increases your survivability AND macro
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>>580259687
>American company
>On American soil
>American employees
>Hey I want to have freedom of speech I hope you understand given you are an American company
>B-but don't you know that is not how the heckin' 1st amendment works?!?!
Kill yourself.
>>580259708
>y-you can't say slurs that means you are mad and not that I can't mentally handle seeing words on a screen
Giving the internet to India was a mistake.
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>>580255285
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>>580259960
Get your AI slop out of here
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>>580228859
It wouldn't matter because spirit items are still more broken than gun and every gun "carry" is a hybrid at best using both gun and spirit items. Objectively speaking, any hero that can be built spirit is better being built spirit than gun and its why 90% of the roster is spiritslop nukers.
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>>580256949
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>>580259942
I wasnt aware valve was the government.
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>>580259942
>Still fuming trying to stick something to me by saying troon jew nigger or indian
It's honestly just sad at this point
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>take a month off
>first game has a lane with 10 collective deaths before 10 minutes
>execute it since its not worth my time
>rape the one afterwards
>think I have to play more games on this patch
believe I got my fix out of the way time to wait even longer
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What does Wraith do when you're losing
>farm
No but what does she do other than farm
I'm on a 5 loss streak and I grinded Wraith for ranked specifically because I want to be able to do SOMETHING to climb rank instead of being left to the whims of my teammates, but she feels like just as much of a force multiplier as my supports. How do I turn games around when we're losing and they won't let me rat?
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>>580259960
This is only normalized because of faggots like (you) who come from turd world and have no concept of civil rights. Again go back.
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>>580260210
farm harder
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>>580260095
They aren't but the government made the law of the land and that is what this country abides by. If you want to setup shop here then you have to respect the bill of rights. Not a hard concept.
>>580260125
>doesn't deny any of it
>posts a furry picture too
Don't you got some kids to groom on discord or something?
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>>580260210

Sac for a walker push.
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>>580260372
>They aren't but the government made the law of the land and that is what this country abides by.
A law you're extremely ignorant about.
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>come back to the game after months of playing different games
>left tearing games apart with Silver
>kept an eye on the patch notes the whole time and see her nerfed a thousand times
>come back
>continue tearing games apart with Silver
This playerbase is genuinely too retarded to deal with a character like Silver, nothing has changed.
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>>580260446
>you're ignorant for wanting to have freedom of speech
Whatever you say, Paco. This isn't Mexico.
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>>580260508
https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-1/
Do me a favor and screenshot what this says and post it.
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>>580260372
Yeah buddy you really got me there! keep fuming
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>>580260508
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Even your own AI bot disagrees with you, retard.
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Your jewish pilpul is sloppy, mossad.
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you guys ever piss and still have some left over piss inside of ur penis i have to shake it until every drop goes down to the toilet
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>>580260680
nothing about that disagrees with >>580260651
plus constitutional law always takes presidence over state law. furthermore valve isn't a social media company so states like Texas and Florida aren't doing shit to stop valve; their focus is social media platforms.
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Do you just love deep throating corporate cock?
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Right now at this moment, across 2438 ranked matches (29256 players) only 8 people in the world play Silver
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>>580261105
ok
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>>580260847
Your prostate is getting too big you need to see a doctor
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>>580260393
How do I do that when the fed Abrams has been watching the lane like a hawk? I can't get much damage in and then feed him more
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>>580260450
I see you have posted no proof
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>>580261105
who boots up deadlock and goes "yup i wanna spectate some live matches"?
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Bring it back
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>>580261007
>b-but that's not how it works
>multiple people including me think it does work like that
Are you genuinely retarded? When companies or governmental entities fail to serve its citizens they need to be changed. When you do not respect the freedom of speech or the bill of rights you deserve to be sued and that is exactly what is happening with these tech companies.
>b-but valve is different
No its not, it behaves in the same fashion. Censoring people's free speech this is really not a hard concept. Pic very related.
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>>580261253
solo lanes were bullshit so many heroes get prio over 1v1s
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>>580261253
This was the best version of the game. Laning was actually important and you couldn't just farm boxes. Lanes were close enough that ganks were common.
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Hey anons. Why does Apollos computer keep blue screening?
Because he doesnt have an equal.
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>>580261248
Literally me. It's fun. And you learn a lot. I'd you don't spectate you're ngmi
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>>580261248
Silverfags don't play the game but are still obsessed with their lesbian queen so they have to do whatever they can to fill the void.
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THERE ARE THREE PEOPLE HARASSING ME AT ALL TIMES BUT NONE OF MY TEAMMATES WILL DO ANYTHING IN THE OTHER LANES
THEY ALL JUMP TO MY LANE AFTER I'M DEAD AND THE ENEMIES PUSH THEIR NOW EMPTY LANES
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>>580260847
this but when you have post nut drip and need to give it the ol toothpaste tube roll maneuver
otherwise it dries up on the tip and you have to peel off the dried coom like Elmer's glue and hopefully your eureka doesn't get T3 Affliction
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>>580261393
I'll watch Night Shift matches when running on the treadmill, but random eternus lobbies is different.
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>>580261203

That's fine, if you can pull their fed teammate away from other objectives (ideally don't die), you are neutralizing his soul advantage over your teammates. Then your team can focus on farming the map to make use of the passive comeback mech.
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>>580261378
I agree, laning phase right now is such a slog and has no impact on the game unless you somehow lose a walker
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Hey anon. Why did the Deadlock player get stuck in the doorway?

Because they spent twenty minutes trying to figure out which zip line, rail slide, and teleporter combo would get them through it, only to realize the server was still in playtest.
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>>580261492
>Watching trannyshift
OK redditbro
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Bring back the old way of getting flex slots
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Oh shit you just won a teamfight!
>an ultless Seven is the only enemy left and is in his base
>next enemy respawn is 75 seconds away
>enemy has no walkers and your entire team is at their base with waves on 2 lanes
>you have a full team and they're all high health
>your team is stronger and you have soul advantage
Do you:
>take their shrines, start midboss
Or
>all go and do midboss
Take a wild guess what my team decided to do
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Hey anon.
Why did the Deadlock hero bring a ladder to the match?

Because they heard the game was all about climbing ranks, but they still couldn't figure out how to climb out of lane.
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>>580261496
But then I'm just hoping my team is competent enough to take advantage of my sacrifice and at that point I'm at the exact same conundrum as I get playing supports where I'm not the driving force for whether I win the match or not. That's what I'm trying to avoid. My teammates are fucking retarded and I need to find a way to 1v11
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>>580261723
Hey anon, source?
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>>580261679
right answer is shrines and midboss but since you said 75 second death timer ur probably pisslow your team went to farm
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Hey anon.
Why do Deadlock players make terrible secret agents?

Because no matter how hard they try to sneak around, everyone always hears them farming souls across the map.
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Ugh, seriously? You want a joke about this absolute mess of a game?

Why did the player try to date a Deadlock match?

Because apparently, they enjoy spending forty minutes being utterly disappointed by someone who has zero future, zero prospects, and refuses to give them the proper last name they deserve. Honestly, the matchmaking has better standards than my parents' choice of undead finishing school.
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>>580261360
you're trying too hard but since I'm waiting for a match to queue I'll humor your post:
>When companies or governmental entities fail to serve its citizens they need to be changed
this concedes that currently valve isn't violating your free speech by muting your account for spamming "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" on mic or in chat.
>When you do not respect the freedom of speech or the bill of rights you deserve to be sued and that is exactly what is happening with these tech companies.
that's not what's being contended even with your screenshots or your first "argument". you can't violate a right that you don't have or isn't being protected by the constitution.
>No its not, it behaves in the same fashion. Censoring people's free speech this is really not a hard concept. Pic very related.
I never said valve was different; I said valve isn't being targeted by state law because valve isn't a social media company; they have the same protection as social media under the constitution to censor what they don't like because valve isn't a government institution.
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>>580261243
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>>580261992
Are you playing jeet brool again?
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you guys ever shit and still have some left over shit inside of ur ass and u have to shake it until every drop goes down to the toilet
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>teammate has jjk profile picture
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>>580261763
There's no magic bullet solution for playing from behind, you either suck it up and keep farming and pressuring in the hope that the enemy makes a mistake you can exploit or you learn to win your earlygame hard enough that you never enter the bad gamestate in the first place.
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you guys ever
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i'm sad nobody else has noticed that the indomitable icon is a reference to PROMOTIONS
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>>580261763

Yeah, well unfortunately the weakness of m1 carry is that your tools for influencing the game is limited to macro plays. If you want a more direct role you have to play a nuker who has a strong midgame 1v1 potential so you got the tools to actively put your finger on the scale by just being better.
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>>580262619
Why do I get the feeling that if I picked a midgame 1v1 character I'd run into the exact same problems I always do? Is there any hope besides ERPing with someone on Discord until they agree to duo with you? I'm going to kill myself soon
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>>580262203
>'jak
>That one Steam default blue haired anime girl
>Silver, Holliday or Celeste
It's over
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>>580262775

There is a reaaon why Mina is one of the most popular mmr farming heroes. Even when she isn't technically a meta pick, her kit just gives her a good mix of carry and duel potential that lets the more skilled player have an oversized impact on the game.

Playing support is harder if the intent is to farm mmr. Playing carry is in my opinion also harder because there are teammates who can outfed even the fastest farmers. Easiest way to farm mmr is active picks with scaling such as Mina, Abrams, Billy, Calico, Drifter, Shiv.
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>>580261992
Check back when you have 200 games on her. You don't even have 60
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>>580262926
>>That one Steam default blue haired anime girl
You mean this one? If it is, I agree. Troglodytes with this profile picture are usually cheaters or subhuman retarded.
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>>580263626
I also hate retard faggots with this on
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>push lane
>enemy pushes back
>push it again
>enemy pushes back
>we do this for 10 minutes
How do I tell if I'm doing my part keeping lanes clear and putting pressure on one enemy or throwing by not helping my team? I don't know how macro works and I'm getting so fucking frustrated
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So Sinclair's model will alternate between him and Savannah when he dies and the other will be an assistant and vice versa? I hope Savannah is hot
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>>580264290
>he doesn't know that sinclair is getting removed next update
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>>580264275
>push lane
Make sure it's actually pushing to their side. Some people make the mistake of stalling the wave in the bridge, that's not wave prio. That's neutral. Once you have pushed properly, you have options:
>farm camps
Pos1 players will do this, it's the very safe option.
>look for a play elsewhere
>wait for the enemy janny to come out and rape him
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>>580264275

Are your team giving away objectives (sinners, urn, rift, walkers, midboss) as a result of this or not? If you are missing out on conrestibg objectives, you are getting played. If they have a man missing because of a wave push threathning a free walker, you played them.
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>>580264290
Sinclair is the ghosts possessing a mannequin, so it'll probably be the same mannequin in different clothes
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>>580264275
Shove the lane to start a push, 2 waves will make it always push the to the next building unless someone comes to clean it up.
This is will often do like 60-70% of a walkers HP if uncontested.
And then you go farm camps, gank, buy, or setup to do an objective.
If the enemy clears it you obviously have less time but if can set it up, go do a rift, mid boss, siege a walker, you have a big advantage or they basically lose the walker.

If your team isn't doing anything you just farm camps and shit while this is happening or run and janny another lane as well
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>>580264275
it really depends, if it's the strongest hero on the enemy team you're helping your team just by keeping them in the lane and out of fights
if you're in a 1v1 you need to aggress on the enemy sidelaner sometimes or you'll never actually create pressure. poke them, try to kill them if they misuse key abilities, steal their jungle. you do need to be aware of your team's map pressure though, if the other two lanes have bad prio you'll get collapsed on trying to take the 1v1

if they're low and play passive you can immediately back off or run into the jungle after clearing the wave to make it look like they have space to walk up also
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>>580264610

I think the ghosts you call fourth will have two designs, but the mannequin will be more static. I could see the mannequin getting a more gender neutral outfit though.
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>>580263626
>Why are porn addicts brain damaged?
Theres a study as to why
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I've lost eight matches in a row
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Just beat the same guy eight games in a row lmao
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>>580264610
>>580264789
That would be lame as fuck so Yoshi will probably do that instead of a cool thing
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>>580261992
I have 20 games on Graves, 4131 last hits and 255 denies
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>>580261992
>only 46 denies with 42 games played
street brawl doesnt count
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HOW DO YOU GO FUCKING 40 MIN WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING ON THIS HERO
HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO CLIMB LANING WITH THIS DOGSHIT
XDDDD
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>>580264805
Brother you are on 4chandotorg
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>>580265462
>yeah i suck dicks for a living how did you know
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fuck im so fucking done with team games
1 fucking person can ruin your mood for the entire fucking day
kill yourself fucking dogshit nigger from belarus with 1000 games and still no idea how to fucking play somehow being matched with me
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RELEASE THE UPDATE YOSHI
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i love deadlock and i am indian
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might be the lowest statlocker score i have ever seen holy shit
how is this not a valve agent sent to tank my winrate
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>>580255330
>triggered
lurk moar
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>>580265690
This game has been shit since the latest update that introduced new characters. It's an utter shitshow rn and everybody has their head in the fucking sand
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>>580265462
>>580265541
>>580265815
exactly why I gave up on ranked
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>>580265541
>look up person on statlocker
>think this means anything
anon you know that basically no one in the player uploads their games to it, right?
it doesn't even have 5% of the played matches registered.

its straight up worthless unless you upload all your games and only use it for stats on people who upload all of their games.
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>>580265842
Also somehow this fucking game runs even worse now. How do you fuck that uP?
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>>580255182
Completely unrelated to whatever you were discussing, but that picture you posted is amazing. Where'd you get it from?
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>>580266178
you don't go 800 games with this shitty stats by chance
stop coping you're probably just as fucking bad with 500 games on celeste and 45% winrate or something
typical tranny hero for a tranny player like you
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Am I taking crazy pills how the fuck do people accept this shit? Matchmaking is worse than it's ever been, relative balance is somewhere but not here, characters are either mostly left behind because they suck or seen every other fucking match.
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>>580246363
joechuck owns you
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>>580266413
I've been playing other games until the content patch comes out
Rank doesn't matter and I got to phantom quick enough that all my motivation dried up.
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>>580266309
https://x.com/_witchmail_/status/2091195731814268993
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>>580265690
honestly, atp i think you're pretty much describing 80%+ of this community, all you have to look at is the droves of mentally disabled niggers who post "i have 100 hours and i still don't get this game" in here. the only thing that yoshi excels at is attracting the most IQ negative loons to his pathetic excuse of a "game".
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I want to spread paige's big fat wobble wagon and SNIFF her shitter...
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honestly is 6 players on each team too much? is it too easy to get carried or stay at your rank? like how fucking often is there not at least one player even during a win with the absolute worst fuckign stats possible
this game probably needs perfomance based mmr or some shit its just not possible to stomach otherwise
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>>580266640
german?
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>>580266506
I'm a god damn idiot who doesn't play the normal gamemodes and I feel like even in streetbrawl you can just see the issues the game has. It's just so fucking obvious and I don't need to be genius to look at how much of a fucking failure the matchmaking update has been. But oh everybody is silent on it, not a god damn peep except from a content creator giving in and saying "okay yeah the bad stuff is in my bubble now so I'll admit the game has a fault". Then nothing for weeks or months.
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>>580266545
People posting that still is this games ultimate failure where you can put hundreds of hours into this game and still have ZERO grasp of the basics. I mean fuck I remember playing the tutorial and the last part just fucking CRASHES THE GAME.
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>>580266797
To be fair I've seen quite a few ecelebs cry about the MM allowing sub 50% winrate shitters climb and int their games + duo abusing.
But yeah its a shitshow. Elo landmines galore running it down because they belong in 1 or 2 entire rank divisions alone.
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>>580266797
>But oh everybody is silent on it
That's because the devs don't give a fuck about what anyone has to say except their select few streamers
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>2-15-9 Kelvin blocks me and two other allies from ganking an enemy with ice dome until two other enemies arrive AGAIN
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>>580266797
>But oh everybody is silent on it
Are we living in the same universe, I feel like people at every level have been complaining non-stop since the MM update.
Whether it's the excessive grind, or the derank shields, or the lack of content, or the bad balance, or the slow update pace this is the highest concentration of complaining I've seen in this game yet.
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>>580266940
if you put hundreds of hours into this game and still have zero grasp of the basics you are a homonculus sub human and should rope to save your parents the exhaustion of raising such a fucking retard.
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>>580266342
Well I don't play celeste but my stats on statlocker are pretty bad.
It says I have a 51% winrate, that I have 44-43 games of ranked.

But well, in game, I have 192 games of ranked, so that can't be right, 60% of my games aren't even uploaded there.
I have 138 wins and 54 losses, a 70% winrate, that isn't close to 51%

Statlocker is very off the mark
Unless that person uploads their games its going to be useless.
It says I have 40% winrates on heroes I have 60% on, if you look at my preranked stats they are even more off the mark.
For example it says I have 20 games as victor, all losses, but I have 161 games as victor and 123 wins. I look like I have basically never played victor and no idea what I am doing with him but he was for a long time one of my best performing heroes.

So no anon
Statlocker means fucking nothing
Tracklock has WAY more games and its STILL way off, to think randoms are uploading their games to statlocker just means you are retarded
Lets look at infernus stats vs yours
Looks like infernus has been winning his games and has a positive winrate
Lets compare them to yours
Oh, hes doing better than you?
You are the haze, right anon? You wouldn't be the yamato or lash with a 41% and 47% winrate respectively and who have lost 8/10 of their last 10 games, right?

Maybe you should stop picking haze if you lose more games than you win with her, because this infernus wins more with infernus than he loses, unlike you.

You don't like the stats? you don't agree with them? They don't reflect your in game profile and reality?
Well shit, isn't this exactly what you were doing?

Fucking retard.
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>play super well all game
>making plays, farming, getting buffs, etc
>make ONE really bad play
>we fucking lose instantly
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>>580267339
you're losing it anon
haze is on the enemy team
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>>580267536
Are you trying to tell me you lost to players who lose most of their games in bronze anon?
Is your argument to confirm you are a bronze player and that its your teammates being the reason you are stuck there?

Thanks for confirming it was the right game.
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I have lost my 9th ranked game in a row
All throughout the midgame I couldn't push my lane because of a fed Mina, I defended it as long as I could but nothing came of me distracting her
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>>580267713
literally nothing of the garbage you're spewing makes any sense
go to bed
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>>580265462
>that build
Bro forgot to queue up as Victor.
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>>580267718
>next lane is against Vindicta and Gray Talon
I wish I had a forfeit button
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>>580267896
Go on anon, post your whole teams stats, you all did equally bad.
You are actually a bricklow player doing awful trying to blame one person who did slightly worse than you for losing the game when no matter who you were on that team you all fed like crazy

The lowest deaths on your team is 7 from pocket (which is a lot for pocket), none of you did we all at all, you all have insanely low damage, building damage, awful ratios, and as far as I can tell all did nothing.

Actual seeker player blaming his teammates when he performs exactly the same as well.
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>>580268231

Trvthnvke
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>crying about ranked from the company that couldn't solve matchmaking for years now
lol
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>>580268231
sick analysis bro
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>>580267718
>a fed mina
literally means nothing get spirit res/shielding and she's worthless
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>I have 138 wins and 54 losses, a 70% winrate
holy fucking larp
like is anyone supposed to believe you're sitting here writing wall of texts of how much better you are than the average poster but you're not uploading games to statlocker? hahhaa get a grip nigga
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which one of these top 10 eternus players are you?
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>>580268393
Caring about rank and performance in multiplayer games is just mental illness. Games are supposed to be played for fun. You will never play Deadlock at the International, so why get so worked up about it?
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>>580266797
>i'm an idiot who only plays street brawl but even *I* can have a retarded uninformed opinion
hell yeah dude
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>>580268880
t. plays with bots
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I'M DOING IT
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>>580267219
IN HERE I AM KING
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KelvinGODS..
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>>580267339
what do you have to say about this player >>580269151
surely you can type up another a4 of slop explaining why he should have solo carried this kelvin
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>>580268664
>>580268809
>>580268867
>Too much of a coward to actually quote
Go on nigger, post the end of match stats, or are you too much of a little bitch to do that?

No wonder you think someone is bragging for having a decent winrate on a hero, you have never climbed and think its special.
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>>580269309
>"p-p-please stop talking about me!!!"
>"g-g-go dunk on someone else!!!!!"
Little bitch behaviour to the end.
Go on, run away coward.
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damn i guess he wasn't eternus 6 after all
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here's my statlocker (this isn't a joke btw)
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>>580267067
This is and always was Valve's biggest problem, only listening to a handful of eceleb niggers as if they don't have reasons to present a narrative.
It's especially retarded now since Deadlock is a f2p Valve shooter and I guarantee you that a lot of those ecelebs they listen to are using cheats
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At what height can you safely jump over Graves root without triggering it?
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>>580270565
doublejump lets you clear it but a regular jump doesnt so just go off of that
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damn i guess he was a dogshit one hero spammer after all
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>they fixed changeteam at the end of the game
GENUINE faggot devs
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>>580271424
You think you can have fun on deadlock??
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>>580269082
Yes, I do play with you sometimes
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>ready to send them to bed!
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>>580266664
No bro it's fair to get MVP and lose the same amount of points as the Haze going 1/9, and then not ranking down because he has 5 shields. It totally wasn't a half assed update to keep people playing until the content patch.
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>rift is yellow, team wants it and start congregating
>walk from bull to clean up blue from hitting our walker before i go
>they fight before the rift spawns (we were like 30k down) and all die but the holliday and myself (clearing blue walker at this time)
>holliday is 1v4 in the rift and dies
>"infernus are you okay?"
>"what do you want me to do there exactly"
>"idk ult in and fight maybe??"
>type lol and go back to farming
>carry the game and mvp while their questionably cheating warden cries in all chat
patch soon please yoshi
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>>580272728
>playing m1 heroes
You don't belong here.
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Could the reason for 2 years of Spirit meta be that Spirit items are pretty much all universally amazing and strictly better than the majority of their green and orange counterparts?
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>>580272043
>muh scoreboard
stop using this a metric there are so many things not shown on the scoreboard that resulted in a win i'd take a haze that went 1/9 because she kept pushing and destroyed two walkers than a Wraith that went 20/2 that jumped away from every team fight that wasn't an obvious ganking just in case they ruined their precious kda
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that is......one big mole
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>>580273427
no you wouldnt lmao
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>>580273306
doorman was banned :(
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>>580273548
yes i would anon i absolutely would you can kill as many people as you can anon the game is about objectives i've been in PLENTY of games where my team just is obsessed with kills but we lose because they dont give a shit about lanes they just want to kill
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>>580273797
>t "split pusher" who forces team to fight 5v6 and then dies 20 seconds later as the entire enemy team collapses on them
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>>580274056
How is the team fighting 5v6 if the entire enemy team collapses on him?
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>>580274056
now we're just making shit up now good for you anon
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>>580272043
>MVP
>lose the same amount of points
you can't get mvp on the losing team
do you mean key player? that just meant you had the best numbers on your team
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>>580273427
You know the MVP system also takes objective damage into account, right?
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>>580274303
>he thinks the only way to take objectives is to directly hit them
>lane jannies are pointless
>just ignore every push on your side
>you definitely wont lose the game giving up every objective for free
yeah I can see the issue
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>>580273403
>better than green

Wrong
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>play M1s and climb while being fucking astronomically bored out of my mind. high agency, no fun
OR
coinflip playing literally any other role and hoping your carries are sentient. fun but 0 agency.
great ranking system
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Egg should be used as a griefing detection tool
Bought egg = instant low prio
>>580274682
I've been just spamming silver on standard in case she gets buffed so I can stop playing these braindead carry heroes but holy shit man is she so unreliable. You need a good snowball and when my wraith first buys egg and deals half my damage in lane you know its unwinnable.
They really need to nerf all the carry heroes into oblivion, almost all of them have good lanes except spirit victor. Too much power + agency at every stage of the game and I say that as a ranked victor abuser.
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>>580274682
we need a hero like this in DL pronto
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>>580274920
Silver is a marksman bro, she is a carry same as the others
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We're being raided aren't we.
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>>580275582
Nah it’s just new friends I think
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>>580275582
Who would raid this shithole? What for?
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>K/D doesn't matter because what if my extremely specific fantasy scenario where someone throws an ability at someone with 1HP 20 times in a game
lamo
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>>580275807
KD doesn't matter
If you win you win
Dying to 5 people for example is fine early/mid game since they get like zero souls
But feeding someone a solo kill is scuffed and they get mega fed
So it depends
But KDA doesn't really matter.
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>>580275807
who are you quoting? try clicking the number on their name to reply to them newfriend
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>>580275180
>Silver is a marksman bro
This is true
>she is a carry same as the others
This is false, she's an offensive brawler
But if you can't land your shots on Silver then don't bother playing her, her gun is deceptively good in the right hands
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>>580255003
As a former league player, fuck no.
Jayce is an eternal cancer to the game whether or not he's "balanced"
You did give me a pretty good idea though, mauling leap could be the 4 and you have to get enough damage off before you can use it again, this would give clear counter play to her and justify giving her more durability since she'll actually be stuck in
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>>580275582
Why do you think so?
Just because people say things you disagree with doesn't mean there's a raid happening, they're usually very obvious
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Heroes I like are
>Yamato
>Holliday
>Silver
>Mirage
Any hero recommendations?
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>>580275807
>k/d doesn’t matter

Correct

Win loss is superior to performance because win lose is a summation of all the events in the recorded period. Performance by construction throws away data that is not directly measured. It’s less data, leading to a lower predictive capacity, leading to worse matches

None of this really matters in the new system tho it’s not a rank system it’s progression so they can add your tard shit
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>>580276842
Calico and Drifter
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>>580276842
shiv
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Should I be delivering urn if I'm playing hypercarry?
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>>580276842
Lash
Apollo
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>>580276976
Depends on the game state
If you have the wave super pushed in and there's no good farm to take, sure
its usually better for a roamer hero though like silver or Drifter but that's not a hard rule
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>>580276842
Mirage is the weird one there. I guess that's your off-pick. But if we're going by the first 3: Drifter, Apollo, Paradox, and Vindicta.
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just found out you can get a character that's not even ON your fucking queue apparently
Doorman (Prio) Rem/Seven
got fucking Dynamo
literally what
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>>580277230
Mirage is the same as yamato
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>>580277298
retard
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Playing support in standard is now a miserable experience. What happened? It didn't used to be like this.
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>500 damage per ability vs 500 damage per shot
hmmm I wonder which is better
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>>580277391
Is he really? Whenever I think of Mirage, I imagine farm until ricochet rush. Yamato doesn't do that, she's a 4.8k rapist.
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>>580277638

You actually don’t want to rush ricochet but just get it right before the endgame midboss or patron fight, before that point he plays anti carry same as yam
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why do people die with huge bags for no fucking reason? just spend your souls retard
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>>580278187
>Farming
>Retard picks a fight for no reason
>Go help him
>Die in the process
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>>580270404
They obviously all cheat.
At this point I assume Valve knows and just tolerates it because if these "pros" weren't cheating, others would.

Valve doesn't care about cheaters. Cheaters love to cheat, which means more players overall. Not to mention cheaters love to waste money on skins or "old" steam accounts to LARP as long time players and justify their cheating.

Really simple to understand.

Also esport is literal HvH everywhere
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>>580278187
I was 1 camp away from the item I wanted then some retard started a fight and started bitching that I didn't rotate to help him
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>playing game
>ally viscous randomly types
>"well... it's a boot-"
>spams a bunch of shit in the chat and crashes my game
>cant rejoin for like 5 minutes
>come back
>their vyper and venator are knocking our patron despite the game being like 12 minutes long
thats so fucking gay and retarded i hope this faggot gets killed irl
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one of these things is not like the other
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>>580280527
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>>580280527
Moles are pretty fast actually.
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>>580280452
All the bug reports on the forum are about this yet they do nothing
Shows how little of a fuck they give
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>jump in for an epic parry on the guardian
>it just keeps beaming my ass
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>>580280527
You're right, it's weird that yamato is that fast.
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>>580280892
just react to the attack idiot
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>>580277498
I accept your concession
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>>580280864
>click his steam profile
>level 0 account with a one piece pfp
yeah that's about what I expected
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>>580261384
>>580261616
>>580261723
I could fold mina like a chair and potentially rape her so easily.
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>>580280452
>>580280864
>38mb update didn't even fix this
so what did they do? was it just the change team bug?
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it genuinely feels awful to take long break from the game my aim gets all fucked up like i need atleast 1-2 games to get back into form
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>>580281435
I come back after like 2 days and get an absolute ballcrusher of a game and can't even bring myself to queue again
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>>580281613
Playing too many shooters ruins my muscle memory. I logged on for the first time in a week to check my leaderboard placement and literally felt like a baby using a mouse for the first time
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>>580280864
>>580281259
people take this game seriously but the devs don't give a shit about it so why bother playing it at all
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>>580240227
>About to win a 2v1 on rift
>just need to stun and melee a dynamo
>riposte
>fly PAST the fat fuck, end up outside rift and too far to follow up
Just rework this fuckass ability
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>>580255003
>her girlballs
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I hope the people doing this crash your game thing are perma fucking banned
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Update better be this week yoshi
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>2-12 sinclair on my team
>5 games in a row where I had literally no impact on wether we won or lost because I got retards who can't figure out how to play their braindead characters and go 1/7 on warden
it's all so tiresome. truly
this game is draining to play with matchmaking this bad
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>play roamer/ganker
>my pos1 is retarded and we lose lategame
>play pos1
>the retards in my team do not know how to make space and pressure the map so i have to take risks to farm
My fucking god.
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>>580283068
its always "retarded team" with you niggers but never "me"
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>50% spirit resist
>juggernaut
>debuff remover
>unstoppable
Yup, time to finally exist in a teamfight for more than 2 seconds.
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>>580283265
You're right. The trick is to play a roamer/ganker that can scale.
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>>580283373
do oraclebobs really?
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>>580278187
"huge bag" is like 600-700 souls in this game, can't buy shit with it, it only looks large
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>>580252575
nerf all the basic cards and give joker a timer before it auto-fires
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subhuman russians are crashing games while promoting their cheats amazing game valve thank you
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>>580282663
should've been a day one fix but nope
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When this game asks me "how interesting or fun is this item?" and then gives me shit like melee lifesteal I always feel bad answering with "1"
It's not that I hate the item, it's useful and I like it, but it's just a stat thingy, it's not anywhere near being a "fun" item
I hope the devs realize that
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>>580283265
nta but literally yes, I am too good to be playing with these retards.
I am quite literally never the problem in ranked.
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>>580283896
Insider here.
The reason they delayed the update is because they keep trying new things to make melee lifesteal interesting, I hope you're happy.
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>>580283753
Russians are completely isolated from the outside world by Valve's matchmaking, retard. If you have Russians in your games it's because you yourself are russian
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>>580283753
Why doesn't Valve just buy the cheat and reverse engineer it? Is it really that hard to find what/which they are abusing genuine question
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>>580284087
EU is filled with russians though? are u burger by any chance? either way cheat = russian simple as that
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>>580284087
Delusional
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>>580283753
>>580284182
>buy some turd worlders cheat
>get added to the botnet
lol
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>>580283896
i always answer 3
1 is "needs redesign" and i would say there is a place for simple, basic stat sticks, i mean it's a tier 1 item, i don't think it needs a redesign. that said it's too simple to be a 5 so i just go right in the middle
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>melee lifesteal changed to melee steal life

redesign done
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>>580284965
The only world where building stamina is optional is the world where fun is illegal
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>>580275807
>be 40/0/0
>get picked at the wrong time
>lose the game
very common mistake
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are you a resto shot chad or a regen chud /dlg/
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>>580255886
This isn't Dota
I know dotards have an aneurysm whenever league comes up but Deadlock has a lot of people from different games coming to it including:
Dota
League
HotS
Overwatch
Paladins RIP
TF2
Marvel Rivals
And more that I'm forgetting right now, point is you're better off making peace with that fact and leave your cringe one sided rivalry from 2 fucking decades ago in the catalog
t. guy who doesn't even play or like league
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>>580285670
it's dota3d bruh
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>>580284294
>>580284414
It's other eastern Europeans. ukrainians, belarusian, polish, balts. Russians are completely isolated from the outside world by Valve's matchmaking, retards. It's been like this since 2023. Despite servers being hosted in Europe, russians are only match made with Russians. I know that because I know how Valve's servers work. If you have Russians in your games it's because you yourself are russian
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I can't
Lost a Silver game because the clock ticked past 30 minutes and they had Dynamo, Seven, Lash, Vin, and Drifter.
I've been hard stomped my last 3 games (over 3 days), but to give me an early game layup like this just for it to inevitably be torn away is cruel
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>>580285670
It is quite literally dota with skills ripped straight from Dota
Items ripped straight from Dota
Balance ripped straight from Dota
Game designer ripped straight from Dot-
Oh... you get the point huh...
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>>580285658
I’m regen simply because resto is orange and messes up my breakpoint autism
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gunslop ruined deadlock
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>>580284965

-stalker
-suppressor
-healbooster
-enduring speed
-radiant
+spirit resilience
+slow hex
+superior duration
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>>580284965
>stam mastery instead of kinetic
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>>580286125
Silver is the weakest hero in the game by far
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>>580287131
if you're seeker maybe
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>>580286125
did you know this guy isn't even indian? he's italian
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>>580287196
Sub 40% winrate in eturnus, she's actually at her strongest in shitlow
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>>580287196
Projecting seekerbab
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p6+ btw!
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Literally what is the counter play to abrams max ult in mid if youre on the other team?
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>>580278276
>>580279349
You just leave them or say before they go in that you can't fight due to a large bag.
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>>580287450
counterspell , unstoppable or just waiting until he goes in
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>>580287450
kevin dome
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>>580287450
ABsolutely nothing don't listen to this >>580287538 sissy. Just take the rape like a man.
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>>580287378
My wife Silver is so hecking strong
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>>580287378
Character isn't fun to play into and won't be getting nerfed btw, you can wait for a rework in 6 months.
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>>580287378
Holy shit so op...
Just imagine her winrate in e6...
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>>580285670
No, its dota 3rd person, pretty exactly.
A couple of things that clearly they realized were issues in dota but were load bearing so they changed them (eg unstoppable just stopping debuffs unlike bkb stopping all the equivalent of spirit damage) but otherwise has an identical design approach, balance approach, items, heroes, update schedule, mechanics, etc

If you don't see that its so very obviously dota 3rd person you clearly have never played dota at all, so many heroes are just straight up "what if took half of hero X's kit and half of hero Y and mashed them together" because the parts they left don't work in a 3rd person shooter.
So either you are discovering you really like dota and should have been playing it the whole time, or that you already have and know you don't like it and are going to very disappointed where deadlock is heading.

Neon prime was icefrogs project after dota, Deadlock is icefrogs project, yoshi is icefrog, the same person who made dota popular in wc3 and added so many of the things you dislike and hate about it, the same person running its balance as dota 2, the same person running balance for deadlock.
Deadlock is dota 3 basically.
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>>580287378
And to think, there's still "people" that claim this character is good sleeper OP
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>>580287538
This doesn't do enough because he also secures a crystal and gets unstop for the post rejuve team fight as it lasts 10 seconds.
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>>580288035
>unlike bkb stopping all the equivalent of spirit damage
ive never played dota does bkb just render you immune to spells in general for its duration?? like having a counterspell that's active for five seconds???
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>>580288035
>yoshi is icefrog

no way....that's impossible
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>>580284965
>stamina
>optional
you're insane heroes with two stamina without extra stam are nearly unplayable dude
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>>580288246
Okay and? even if he secures one you can parry spam till his unstop runs out some characters are always gonna have prio over stuff thats why you play around those like don't do mid while he is alive and has ult or if they are doing it just pick them off while or after they take reju
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>>580288357
bkb makes you magic immune, but the lion's share of CC abilities are magic in nature so you're effectively getting unstoppable from it too. It also lasts 10 seconds and goes down a second each time you use it (6s minimum)
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>>580288357
10 seconds, yeah
immune to magic, as in you cannot even be targeted by spells that you would click to target.
A couple of spells would allow you to pierce it and still have an effect but deal no damage, a few ults, like pudge ult to stun them while you channel, fiends grip, axe call, etc A couple of spells.
At least that it exactly what it was like when dota 2 came out and had been like for years.


Had a lot of changes, starting at 10 seconds and scaling down to 5 with each use but lowering the CD
Changing what pierces
Changing how spell immunity works

But yeah
It was 10 seconds of you cannot use spells on me
If you had a click target spell, it would just respond with that being an invalid target as if you had tried to cast it on air
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>>580288035
>but were load bearing
this is a fucking claude post you fucking asshole
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>>580288035
Deadlock is a fusion of genres with loose Dota as a base with lots of added components from other games and, mobas and hero shooters both but it's pretty pointless to argue about which features come from which because people will just make a case for their preferred game.
If they took Deadlock and made it into a moba with the features and mechanics it currently has then I would see a game that's a sort of fusion of Dota and Hots and I'd be willing to bet dota players would call it casualized trash

But to call it just dota3d is a massive oversimplification of the differences between the moba genre and the hero shooter genre, both of which the game so clearly borrows from.
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>>580288801
i've never used claude but aight bro
idk if I should take it as a compliment that my writing is that coherent and well structured, or a disparagement that its very generic
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>>580288878
idk anon my apologies if you weren't but alot of models use the term 'load bearing' now for some reason
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>>580284182
They probably already do but cheating in games is a Cold War arms race, more effective Valve gets at banning cheaters the more challenging it becomes to cheat makers, which in turn ups its prices, increasing its cheats ‘market value’, which attracts more talented code monkeys, which leads to a loop that only ends when one side gives up or the prices of cheats gets too high, the latter usually never happens the people that buy that shit are insane.

Seen a guy get two entire new rigs after they hardware ID’d him and kept renting hotels, making alt accounts, rebuying the game, don’t know how much the cheats cost him but he must I’ve spent atleast $3k minimum just to cheat
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Here's an easy way to ban cheaters
region lock Russia China and Brazil
problem solved
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This update better be good current meta is fucking dogshit i wanna be able to play shiv and silver without getting ass raped in phantom
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>>580288861
>dota3d is a massive oversimplification of the differences between the moba genre and the hero shooter genre, both of which the game so clearly borrows from
[citation needed]
the hero shoot genre is overwatch claiming that it was going to be a mix of a shooter and moba
and then releasing a shooter and calling it something else

overwatch and the games based off it are just arena shooters, much like tf2 was

Explain to me what moba elements overwatch has, what makes it a "hero shooter" instead of just an arena shooter.
Mobas didn't have charging ultimates
abilities and cooldowns are not unique to mobas, not moba specific, and are basically identical to many other shooters by a different name
its just that it had a "class based" structure, which already existed in many many many shooters.

Hero Shooter isn't a genre because they are just fucking shooters and many games identical to them have existed for 30 years at this point


Now, what elements are taken from a "hero shooter"?
Is there charging ultimates like them? No
Can you swap heroes mid match? No
Is it a payload mode? No, its base sieging like a moba
Hmmm well there isn't anything else "unique" about these "hero shooters"

Its a fucking moba
It plays exactly like a moba
Its very obviously based on a moba

Explain what its fusing because as far as I can tell its taking nothing from these games you claim its taking things from.
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>>580288949
celeste is a load bearing problem in deadlock because she bears my loads
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>>580288949
nah no worries
bkb is very commonly referred to in dota as load bearing and has been for... well over a decade at this point since they have been fucking with it a lot and trying to get it into a better state, changes like status resistance and the such really got people to talk about it differently
so its just dota terminology
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>>580289175
You could region lock the entire planet and they’d still bypass it the people that cheat in games have nothing else going on in life brother
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riot sissies are fuming because deadlock is so fundamentally good their clone cannot rip it off without it being obvious
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The Yoshi doctrine says Celeste should remain at the top while Silver should remain at the bottom
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>>580289508
silver fucks men from manhatten exclusively
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I love this monkey fella so much peak character design and m2 movement is literally the most goated mechanic in the game
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>>580289662
He also has the best VA and voicelines IMO
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I can't imagine a world without m2 movement.....
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>>580289281
>Hero Shooter isn't a genre
This is where you expose yourself as a dumbass, hero shooters is very much a genre whether you like it or not, whatever term you personally use is meaningless when the internet broadly knows it as "hero shooters", tf2 included.
I'll entertain you in pointing out that the way trooper souls work and the banner heal is a lot more like how XP works in HotS, which is functionally that game's currency.
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>>580289659
Silver fucks a woman from Macomb exclusively
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>>580289781
I still can't believe how he also voices Pocket it's a night and day difference
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Who even uses shiv's m2 movement lmao its completely useless
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Talking about shiv makes me wanna boot up deadlock but i promised myself not to play till update
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>>580289659
Silver fuck a clown unicorn from the circus exclusively
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>>580290102
They don't even work like how XP works in tf2
you still need to last hit
they aren't shared with your team

things like soaking don't exist

Do you want to really know what they work like?
Like fucking banner creeps in dota

>hero shooter
is a term made by blizzard to attempt to differentiate overwatch and act like they are making something new
its an arena shooter
tf2 wasn't some new game in a new genre, its a very well made genre title and perfectly fits into it
the most innovative thing tf2 does is payload, not the class structure

but its okay, we can all tell overwatch was your first shooter and you have no fucking idea what you are talking about.
I have EXCLUSIVELY spoken about games I have played, but you seem to talk a lot about games you haven't played, maybe you shouldn't say its not "literally dota" if you haven't actually played dota and can't see that it very obviously so is literally dota
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>>580290315
why do pisslows love exposing themselves for no reason?
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>>580289662
>and m2 movement is literally the most goated mechanic
You should try Viscous some time, he plays differently to Shiv obviously but puddle punching yourself around is also insanely fun.
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>>580289659
Silver fuck a librarian from the closet exclusively
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I think it's more likely that Silver fucks rather generally, to be honest
Given her proclivity for getting drunk and being a degen
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Anyone that pretends deadlock isn't a moba is a retard and most likely griefing every match they play
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>>580287953
>Character isn't fun to play into
That describes half the roster even before the new heroes
When is lash getting gutted because holy fuck that nigga isn't fun to play into
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>>580287953
She's probably the most fun and easy hero to play against even before they nerfed her
Literally just walk away or have a teammate nearby so one of you can kite and the other kills, it's like the tank in l4d only shitters think it's hard
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>>580291365
can't help but notice all these silver whiner scenarios involve her trying to 1v6

fight with your team
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>>580291365
>or have a teammate nearby
There's the problem "people" have with her, they're solofaggots who try to duel the fed Silver
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>>580291704
Yes, that's how you beat Silver, she's worthless in teamfights.
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SILVER is OP!
Now excuse me, I have a game of warden and wraith to play, b-tier honest heroes at best.
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>>580291798
no, I'm saying the silver players are the whiners trying to 1v6. werewolf silver is one of the best backline divers in teamfights
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>>580236653
>Walk on lava
>It's still hot the second time
wtf
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>>580292036
lmao ok bricky
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>>580291930
No anon Silver is FINE
You're finally allowed to play her
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>werewolf silver with phantom strike, some flavor dispel
>dives carry with disarm...has ANOTHER leap with disarm in her abilities

how do you fuck this up. she has a clear gameplan
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Where are the mokrill buffs?
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>silver is literally designed to keep op heroes in check by 1v1ing them as the "people" that pick op heroes are all egoist retards that will go off solo on their op heroes
>said "people" are also whining retards that cry nonstop about finally having a counter
>silver gets nerfed to shit despite never being particularly good (note that none of the fotm op hero spammers ever picked silver)
>game turns to shit with the worst balance it has ever had
Face it, Silver being strong is necessary for the health of the game and if you disagree you're the cancer killing deadlock.
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>>580292614
the devs all listen to carry players, you cannot let them be inconvenienced or have bad matchups THEY must dominate in every stage of the game.
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>>580292614
Mokrill does this but better and he is a mole man
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>>580292242
Squishy as fuck melee hero that can't farm, just kite her
How could you possibly struggle against her?
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>>580292614
Never really thought of that but you're right
Silver's kit is godlike for 1v1s and killing hypercarry characters that are magically never bad and Silver is kept in check by having one of the weakest farms and pushing in the whole game
But when she's bad then the hypercarries have no natural counter besides overtuned tanks like Abrams, MoKrill, Billy or Shiv and that's ONLY if they're overtuned that particular patch
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>>580292762
>melee hero

?
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did they ever fix the bug with the new health bars where past 4k health they stop working
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>>580292908
>>580292704
>>580292614
silver players are hallucinating things now
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Deadlock shouldn't have been a shooter game.
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>mokrill gets juggernaut
>he just owns the map now and its impossible to punish him
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>>580292908
>Silver's kit is godlike for 1v1s
*climbs on a pole*
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We needs new heroes and one has to be an attractive female so the schizophrenics move on from Silver it's so fucking boring it's been 9 months of this
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>>580293397
carry player hands typed this
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we need 800 soul items that give bullet and spirit resist, that build into the 1600 items that give resists, maybe even hold onto both + extra health for colossus or leech
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>>580293397
at least 3 of them are going to be an attractive female lets be real
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Why is paradox the only rapebait character in this game?
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If they made Calico today she would actually be something attractive and not... whatever the fuck she is now, California CorpoSuave or something.
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>Play really good
>Someone in voice chat says "good job" "nice" and "well played"
>I get butterflies in my stomach.
Am i gay or is this the power of NA? I never get compliments in EU even though the way i play doesn't change
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Paige is prime naive rapebait
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>>580292908
The only conceivable problem with Silver is that there's no other hero that shits on carries, they should add another Silver and then buff Silver so there's a way to counter carries with each team having one.
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>>580293856
EU players in literally every single fucking game imaginable are insufferable faggots that feel like their are taking out their shitty life on others
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>her power is books so her name is page
Seriously?
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You actually have to not posses a soul to actively choose to play something as ugly as calico
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>>580293938
Exactly
Hope the new heroes are anti-carry and anti-movement themed
We need every wraith, celeste, pocket, warden, vyper, seven and geist to uninstall in tard rage.
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>his name is Billie because billy goat
are you fucking kidding me
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>>580293265
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>>580293856
I had a girl call me the best billy she's ever seen and it felt great god I love women
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>>580238470
>getting triple ulted and killed within a nano second
>hear TWO seperate WHY IS ABRAMS NOT DYING voicelines as my screen is gray
Yoshi....
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>>580293938
>there's no other hero that shits on carries
Start playing mokrill
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>>580294037
>Necromancer character
>Graves
>Temperature character
>Kelvin
>Fire character
>Infernus
>Sleep character
>Rem
>Goat character
>Billy
>Knife character
>Shiv
Does Valve really?
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>>580294148
>troonlab
No thanks.
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>His name is Bebop
>He uhhhhh
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>her name is vindicta because she was vindicated
are u for real?
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>>580294139
No his name is Billie because of his jeans
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>>580294139
He's named Billy like Billy the kid and baby goats are called kids
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>>580294227
he goes beep boop
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>>580294192
>implying boosted silver fags are good enough at the game to play most skill
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>>580294083
Wrong I just really want to breed her, you will understand when your older
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>>580294316
bro ur a genius
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>Called Doorman because he opens doors
what fucking hack wrote this
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>>580294227
listen to the wacky solo during his ult
that's bebop
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>>580294480
t. soulless nigger that doesn't know the difference between your and you're
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>>580294561
well to be fair he calls himself the doorman thats not his real name
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>>580294592
Bebop play music in his ult? Can't hear it over the laser.
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>>580294148
>graves talking about aimlabs
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>>580294561
It's his job.
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Next hero batch should add a dedicated anti carry hero and a dedicated anti troonment hero, then buff Silver so she's the hybrid anti carry and anti troonment hero.
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>character is called shiv because his big deal is knives
great writing valve
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>vyper cause she is snake-like and has venom
CLAP CLAP CLAP
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>>580294891
>character is called Grey Talon because he's old and launches a bird at you for his ult
superb writing Mr. Newell
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>Goat character
>His name is William
I don't get it
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>hero is called silver because her team is always in second place
BRAVO YOSHI
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>Silver cause she is a werewolf and weak to silver bullets
wow.....
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>>580295212
>character is named The Doorman
>he's actually a bellhop
make it make sense
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>>580294192
MoKrill is a tank/disruptor who wears you down and outlasts you in a fight
Silver kills squishy heroes rather fast if she plays correctly, that's what causes the meltdown about her

This game is held hostage by carryniggers throwing a fit and Yoshi idiotically listening to them and their eceleb idols
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>>580295590
silver is in a good spot, I am happy to say
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>>580294207
At least they're consistently naming characters with actual names or their aliases
Look at the fucking mess of Dota2's hero names and how inconsistently they either use character names or their description as a name
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>>580295590
its even more insane to me because at least silver has to A: aim all her skillshots and B: enter wolf form to properly assassinate squishys with her 2 stamina meanwhile drifter can just press 1 and one tap you with silence + damage nuke
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>>580295745
>objectively worst hero in the game
>good spot
t. carrytranny
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>>580295590
desu i think it's more just that there isn't enough heros in the game yet to off set the existence of carry heros
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>>580295905
silver isn't an assassin and has six abilities compared to drifter's 2
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>>580295845
Every dota hero has a name and title, they just use whatever is easier to remember as the official name
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>>580295905
The reason people rage against Silver is because the act of getting M1'd by Wolf "feels bad"
When they are too retarded to realize that just getting to play while Silver is in wolf form is already more counterplay than any other fucking character's ult as.
>Calico bursts you from 100
Aw heckin chungus
>Silver chases you in wolf for 15 seconds after landing all her shit
HECKIN OP YOSHI FIX THIS
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>>580296090
She was an assassin that turns into a backline diver before the nerfs.
Now she's just worthless.
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>Warden silence on cage (one of the most retarded changes ever made)
>Drifter silence on rend
>Doormans 180m doors
>Viscous getting two bounces on splatter for no reason at tier 0
and other bullshit this game straight up did not need
march 6th is this games 9/11
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>>580296225
your average deadlock player are former overwatch players that don't know how to play a moba and only knows how to death ball. the concept of kiting someone is completely foreign to them.
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>>580288035
>its actually just dota because characters do the same thing
If this was a true statement then every single moba is the exact same because every single moba has characters who all do the exact same thing.
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>>580296367
she has no assassin abilities, she's a skirmisher. she starts fights and either kills or deals damage and fucks off like paradox. ideally, in a skirmish or big fight she does the same thing but then turns into a wolf to dive and disarm carries
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>>580296858
it's a dota styled moba because of how game changing the items are for not only the opponent but the character you are playing. other mobas don't have an item system as interactive as dota's and are usually just stat number go up
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>>580296865
>kicks you out of position
>stops your movement abilities
>does %current hp damage
>turns into a werewolf
>turns off your gun
>does missing hp% damage
not an assassin
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A hero going 1v6 because it filled up half a meter by missing 2/3 of its abilities and then filled the rest from being attacked is bad game design and had to be corrected, leaving Silver in her current fairly well balanced form, we don't need to discuss this every day, the general consensus is Silver is in the best spot she's ever been right now and fills a valuable, healthy role in the game while not being an overbearing meta destroyer like she was on previous patches.
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Deathballing killed deadlock
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>>580296865
>sit in sidelines before teamfight starts
>either find someone and 1v1 them
>or wrap around and instantly nuke a backliner
I played her like an assassin and it was way better than a frontliner
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>>580292614
>>silver is literally designed to keep op heroes in check by 1v1ing them
Pretty sure people complained because she has terrible design where she's completely useless in human form but became an unkillable 1v6 machine with no items in wolf form
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>>580297109
2/10 bait try harder carrytranny
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>>580297109
You can tell this was typed by a warden main
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>>580296865
>silver
>starting fights
she thrives in 1v1 scenarios where she can do her shit uninterrupted
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>>580297136
She was dogshit in 1v6 and even in 1v2 if up against people that aren't retarded, even the slightest amount of coordination makes her useless but that's too hard for rivals and league refugees
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>>580297109
there is so many ways to counter silver, probably more than anyone else in the entire fucking game. she literally jobs to running away.
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>>580296090
her best build currently (Hoot) is an assassin build
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>silver is good my favorite streamer said so
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>>580297094
assassins aren't interactive, calico leaps, bursts, and then either kills or runs away. drifter's burst is centered around landing stalker's mark or running up at people blinded.

silver has a 15s skillshot that makes people eat shit and then can chip them down with slam fire burst or play around kick. she also has very low CDs for very good abilities.

>>580297307
assassins in dota and mobas in general are NOT interactive. they get the jump, they aren't 1v1 heroes
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>>580297437
Every hero jobs to running away
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>>580297430
league players know how to kite, i wish i got league players in my games
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>>580297506
>mfw Geist Venator main
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>>580297531
Objectively untrue, you are never running away from a celeste or lash or holiday
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>>580297430
This is insanely fucking revisionist.
For the entirety of her release pre-changes every single Silver match was
>fight fight fight
>transform
>entire team is now running and kiting until it wares off even if she's 0-10
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>>580297506
Um she killed me 1v1 tho so she's op (I still won lol)
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>>580297510
>assassins in dota and mobas in general are NOT interactive
some things should not be interactive and that is healthy for games. there needs to be checkmate scenarios. especially for a game like deadlock that has so much movement. interactivity is a meme spouted by people with poor macro and movement and think they should win every exchange by simply going berserker mode
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If she was an assasin she would be labeled as such
If she was a brawler she would be labeled as such
If she was a mystic she would be labeled as such
She is labeled as a marksman, this is yoshis vision. Build squishy damage, afk farm, and plink from safe distance
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>>580297506
Woah looks like we have to buff Grey Talon
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>>580297783
yea I'm fine with that, I'm just pointing out that silver is not an assassin. drifter and calico have big burst damage but they don't turn into a werewolf with a large heal that gives them a free phantom strike and infinite M1 to flip skirmishes or ganks around
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>>580297623
How did Gun Geist fall out of meta anyway? I don't recall her getting hit with nerfs.
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>>580297710
Maybe you played in seeker or something were people always stack on top of each other but in reality Silver was easy as fuck to counter in wolf form unless you were forced to fight in an enclosed area
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>>580297945
but the thing is that she sucks at brawling in time fights as well
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>>580297993
>ad hom
I could tell you I was eternus and it wouldn't even matter because you have no argument in the face of reality and will simply continue to lie to yourself and others.
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>>580298080
what's your build
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>>580297960
They nerfed her gun damage and range a couple times
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>>580297710
>mongoloid retards cannot into counterbuilds and let the new character run around doing all her shit uninterrupted
She folds to slowing hex or any slow/root/cc, disarm, bullet resist, and fucking running away from her
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>>580298159
You don't get bro I CANNOT run away from the 2 stamina hero I MUST hold w and complain on reddit that she's fucking OP and that I, the innocent weak wraith main did not misplay.
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>>580297710
>entire team is now running and kiting until it wares off even if she's 0-10
yeah, it's a moba, you should be kiting people, thats a skill in this game, and silver is severely punished by kiting
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>Silver is really easily counterable she has a lot of unique counters too
>Okay what are they
>The same things that counter literally every other hero in the game
How many times have we looped through this one
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>>580298159
what hero doesn't fold to targeted CC or bullet resist if they deal mostly gun/melee damage without armor shred?
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>>580298093
You and the people you play with being bad doesn't change the fact that Silver in wolf form is a melee creep with low health, just split up, kite her, shoot her, it's not hard. If you're eturnus and don't realise this then you're boosted as fuck and most likely a carrytranny seething about the hero that's designed to beat carrytrannies 1v1.
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>>580298319
are you fucking retarded
that's how the game works, yes
you ignorant fucking low elo RETARD
you build counter items to counter a character
like how you counter haze with metal skin
holy FUCK you disgusting l>r retards are disgusting
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>>580298259
and what's an item that forces people to play around you

it begins with a phantom and ends with a strike
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>>580298319
maybe because her ult is involuntary and there is only so many windows where you can get a good ult off that things affect her uniquely compared to other heros that can pop their ults freely
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>>580298319
>this shit that counters every hero in the game?
>that means all the op cancer heroes are fine just buy counter items (55%+ winrate in e6)
>silver being countered by the same shit?
>doesn't matter she's too op (just above 50% winrate i e6)
Huh
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>>580298487
Lash is literally unplayable because of knockdown and disarm and being able to stand under a roof btw
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>>580298384
and what's the item that keeps melee creeps like abrams viable in high elo

the big fat hero that is easily kited. the hero you can double jump to avoid his big stun combo. what's the item that enables him to function
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>play silver
>wait for a fight to begin and jump the carry and turn into a wolf
>entire team turns around and rapes me
>play m1
>silver jumps at me already in wolf form
>team nowhere to be found because they're all chasing mo and krill and dying to their team for it
ok
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>580298682
>Lash is literally unplayable because of knockdown and disarm
I hate that this retarded bait is still fleecing (You)s out of me
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>silver players shit up a thread
>again
easily the most obnoxious faggots in this playerbase. Enjoy your dogshit hero that you struggle to play unless she's broken as fuck.
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>>580298319
>>580298359
Main difference between those characters and Silver is that Silver needs to be in melee range so there's little to no room to maneuver, has base 2 stamina and fuckall base defense
Silver cannot poke, she's all or nothing, which is also why she's completely useless when she's behind because her farming is shit too
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>>580298740
Lash is a fair and honest hero compared to S+++ilver sorry anon
Let this innocent meta abuser have a giggle, his time is coming, he knows his hero is on the chopping block. The free wins are stopping.
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>>580298683
His spells actually do something and also hit more than one hero
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>>580298487
>>>>countering haze with metal skin
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>>580298319
>YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE ME MAD AWOOO
>climbs up
>AIEEEEE SAVE ME YOSHI
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>>580298683
abrams charge goes like 900000 yards and stuns he can live without phantom strike
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>silver upplaying discordtrannies getting btfo
>again
>they start pretending silver realists are the problem
>again
Why are they like this?
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>>580298887
silver has TWO leaps in both of her forms and they BOTH combo into either a disarm or one of the strongest single target root in the game
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Genuinely don't understand how gun Lash is meant to be OP? Have you tried just standing in a building lmao? He literally can't do anything. Then slowing hex and disarm completely neuter the character and knockdown and counterspell literally turn off his "ultimate ability" (that he HAS to telegraph and stand still for multiple seconds for).
Lash upplayers are mentally ill, low elo mongoloids if they're complaining about a character this easily countered.
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>>580298949
Lets not forget his ult which gives him what, 5+ seconds of cc once you combo it with his 2 that can hit multiple target
Also 6 seconds of unstoppable
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>>580299056
>one of the strongest single target root in the game
you cannot be serious
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>>580298945
the old day time map looked so much more soulful
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>>580299194
you cannot be literate, you must be unable to read
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>>580299194
He is, Silver completely broke these people
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>The warden build is so strong that you copy it left on right with shiv and win games
YOSHI GIVE US THE PATCH RIGHT FUCKING NOW
THE WAIT IS MAKING US INSANE.
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>>580299194
Duuude this long cd 0 damage janky skillshot that applies slowing hex for half the duration of slowing hex is actually super op and the best root in the game also boot kick does more than other heroes' entire kits
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>YOU'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A REAL BAD DAY
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I keep asking these silver players for their builds but they never give it
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>>580299583
his flamey arm tattoo burn things look so cool
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>>580299729
The upplayers don't play silver, at least three of them have admitted to it
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>lash has fuckyuge base hp
>still feels like he's made of paper when playing him
imagine what it will be like when they finally nerf his hp.
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>>580299983
so what's your build?
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>>580299983
>still no build
probably because youre literal wood tier fuckheads who dont know how to play your character hence why youre in here shitting diapers over her not being broken as shit all the time
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>>580299729
i posted my build which was having success and /dlg/ called me retarded so
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>>580300327
ok...so post it again
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>>580300120
The hoot build is good
Its the same shit every build honestly, you're always going to build stalker + hunters as a example
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Graves is a direct counter to Warden why the way.
>Grasping hands prevents him from holding W
>If you have Echo shard even better
>Max ult counts towards grasping hands summoned ghouls
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>>580300120
>>580300239
This was my "build" before they nerfed her to shit (65% winrate)
I don't give a shit about labeling things with "early optional sell this late core" or whatever, I just put the good items I want first at the top and then situational items in the other boxes
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>>580300363
no because you'll call me retarded
just look in the archive buddy
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>>580300697
you don't need stack two greens that early, this gimps your early dps. go with regen, and then pick a good damage gun T2 like opening rounds. if you're having trouble laning, monster rounds is always a good pickup too. you should also be aiming for a big T4 much earlier, after two T3s.
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>>580301085
I don't give a shit, I don't play the hero anymore because it's literal dogshit
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>>580300697
>before they nerfed her to shit (65% winrate)
So literally one week after release which was 7 months ago, and you've been seething about it ever since and haven't updated the build in that time.
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>>580301150
welcome to the genre, builds and build order matter
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>>580301258
I played her up until they removed the heal on kill in ult making her literally worthless (and then they kept nerfing her LMAO)
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>>580300363
ok fine here's my build I started doing spirit recently though so its different with the new cat5
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>Silver has the lowest pick rate and win rate for half a year
>Valve does nothing
>Celeste is so hated 36% of players ban just her for half a year, highest ban rate ever in MOBAs ever
>Valve basically does nothing
They will do nothing and the next patch will change nothing
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Today, I will learn Vindicta.
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>>580301713
>>580301713
>>580301713
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>>580301498
don't know much about spirit silver, but I will say you're likely losing lane against people who build their heroes better. just get m.rounds or regen as as your first t1 pickup, and then get a big t2 for the stat spike. two gun or spirit t1s don't offer a noticeably increase vs a single t2.
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>i haven't played Silver since they nerfed her
>she's still OP tho

>Silver is so OP
>no i don't play female characters
nooticing a trend here
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>>580301601
>>Valve basically does nothing
They buffed her
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>>580301751
there's no point, her lane doesn't exist and it's entirely on her partner or retarded enemies to setup kills, the best she can do is defend dives
also I've been skipping fortitude because it's started to feel like ass over getting a functional item
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>>580301764
I tried playing her after then nerfs and it was genuinely painful trying to do anything, worst hero in the game by far.
Anyone that has actually playing her knows how fucking worthless she is.
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>>580302029
ok, I'll be less nice about it. your build isn't good. that's why you are losing lane. get monster rounds for wave management. rush a t2 afterward for the DPS spike. if you look in the lower left corner, it tells you what your damage is like. investing in two t1 gun items is LESS DPS than a single t2 gun item.
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>>580302201
>monster rounds
lmao
there are also no good t2 gun items besides kinetic dash and that's situational, as you can see t1 stam has no upgrade in the build
>monster rounds
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>>580302362
opening rounds is a perfectly strong generic DPS item, you can also just rush a stalker or slowing bullets or whatever you want. T2 items GIVE MORE DPS, than two T1s. period. so you are getting STAT CHECKED if your lane opponent knows this and you don't.

understand?
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i will never buy monster rounds on any character
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>>580302596
then buy resto shot or rapid regen retard, it's not fucking rocket science. it's literally all stat checking.
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>>580302525
I do not care + you have zero proof that 800 + 800 < 1600
and you unironically suggested monster rounds so I don't have to listen to anything else you have to say anyway
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>>580302658
i'm not paying attention to your guys argument i just hate monster rounds
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>>580302695
retarded like potato
>>
delete dispel
delete metal skin
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>there are also no good t2 gun items besides kinetic dash
bricklo



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