>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=67625562344521860>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>580227548
Why is this entire game balanced around mokrill?
>silver is literally designed to keep op heroes in check by 1v1ing them as the "people" that pick op heroes are all egoist retards that will go off solo on their op heroes>said "people" are also whining retards that cry nonstop about finally having a counter>silver gets nerfed to shit despite never being particularly good (note that none of the fotm op hero spammers ever picked silver)>game turns to shit with the worst balance it has ever hadFace it, Silver being strong is necessary for the health of the game and if you disagree you're the cancer killing deadlock.BUFF SILVER.
>>580301914no
>play Mina>losewhy does this keep happening
Deadlock is 2XKO of Paladins clones
>>580302542Wouldn't be surprised if they announced eos
When are we getting Alice character?
>>580302542>paladin clones>its actually a battleborn clone
GREY TALON is insanely cancerous hero worse than celeste and apollo and holliday and lash and pocket and vyper and wraithWHY you ask? because he can... dash!no he doesn't have any other mobility he can go straight up for a bit but trust me he can dash and that makes him the most cancerous hero in the game!
>>580302816>Desdlock will never be as B A D A S S as BattlebornAnother Randy W
>>580302772never
Why does Lash have innate spirit resist when he already lives in the skybox
>>580301914she needs her +30 resistances back, be able to melee on poles, have faster base attack speed, and have slow/aspd slow immunity on wolfand also give back her heal on kill and restore stam on killher wolf form is SUPPOSED to be a giga rapist in exchange for not being able to manually use it
I've been watching Lystic play the game and do pros just hate their lives? Even when he's having a great game and winning he's still sounds depressed and irritated
>3 more weeks
>>580302372Mina and Ven are dogshit in low mmr but OP in high mmr. Unless you are Phantom already or something than it's prob a skissue.
>>580303590It's not a good idea to make a single game your main hobby or job.
>>580303590that's every moba gamer thoughall my friends are like that, they hate having to try to winI do too, I just dont complain or whine or even get mad, someone has to lose and you're supposed to have friction from your enemies, who cares at the endwhat I mainly don't like about mobas is that you have to be always on, constantly pressuring and using your brain otherwise you stagnate and/or lose
can someone explain to me why warden and mo and krill need huge hp and movement and damage? most heroes just get one or two of these but those two get all of them
>>580303461The heals the gains in her ult should be base health instead of bonus health
>>580303831brb building warden L->R on Mo
did they fix the text crash yet
>>580303461no
Silver needs nonstop nerfs until you grow a new personality.
>>580303590If you had a fulfilling life with good career prospects and friends to spend time with you wouldn't play videogames for 12 hours a dayEspecially not a fucking beta
>warden is so OP now!>its the same warden has ever been>no but this new build is so optomized!>its the same build every warden has run for the past year
>>580304246>I want the game to get worse becauase... SOMEONE ON 4CHAN ANNOYED ME
>>580303117everyone knows GT is immobile
Silver being worse affects nothing.
>>580304645Based mindset to have
>>580304765There's a direct correlation between Silver's viability and the game being goodThe worse Silver is, the worse the game is
I've yet to see a silver player provide any proof they are good at the game much less silver
>been literal months>they're still shitposting about the same topic
>>580305271it's almost like the game hasn't changed in those months
>>580305271Silver upplayers truly are pathetic
>>580299729800526edited version of another build.
The climb to phantom sure is miserable but I'm finally making this shit work
>>580302772we're getting the heckin cheshire cat
Silver is truly the Queen of /dlg/. You gues really love her and talking about her.
>>580305338>if nothing is new i have to repeat the same thing 500x adhd brain
>pigfat still here/dlg/ you know what needs to be done
I prefer talking about mokrill
>>580306321I like the unstoppable unkillable rapist Mo posting, it's at least funnier.
Reduce mokrills ult cooldown NOW
>>580306321actually one of the weakest and most useless heroes in the game idk why /dlg/ is so assblasted about him how shitlow do you have to be lmfao
>>580305338They've nerfed Silver (made the game worse in every regard as she was the only thing keeping op nigger heroes in check)
>>580306571anything that counters m1ggers is not allowed to exist in this game
>get punished for dealing too much damageawooooooo......on another note, Lycan Form becomes completely useless if someone buys Suppressor and/or rusts your barrel
>>580307156dispel
>>580304610What 9 months of no updates does to a deadlocker
>>580307302so true sis
>>580307156>rusted barrelLasts a quarter of the duration of Silver ult. Like I agree Silver is really bad but can we please stop saying such retarded things
You really can just do the MM Gunslop build on any hero but Graves and it works
noooooooo give her full free heals AND a free cleanse I don't wannna learn the item shop nooooooooo
>>580307595She can't do any damage after a single slow, might as well bend over for white men and present her cookie for pounding
>>580305813he's back.
>>580307690even on abrams?
>>580307967He just keeps coming
made a hero concept, shadow doodGun is a light that floats behind him, if he stands still it flys away and makes his shadow longer which is where the abilities come out. Ignore the numbers they are just place holderNot quite sure how to handle fall off 2bh maybe there should be none
if a S++ilver is chasing you with her wolf form just jump on the nearest zipline lol she can't do shit about that
Yoshi is playing Marvel Rivals again
>>580308562You can't jump on a zipline within 4 seconds of taking damage
>>580308562um but i want to 1v1 her? wtf lol why cant i do that shes so op
>>580308762She's so weak... She can't deal a single point of damage
>>580306804>You either take the Blue pill and playwith this doorman or you take the red pill and play with 30 iq apes that have a meltdown over the smallest mistake but can type nigger without them acting like you summoned the antichristgrim
>>580307884And absolutely terrorizing ranked
>>580308629if you kill your enemy, they win-sun tzu
Hyperlining with Silence Wave is really funny
>>580308629If only he would
Wow nothing can be OP because dispel and counterspell exists!
>Warden & Celeste on the enemy teamtime to enjoy my 30 minutes of being raped
>they change Mo's burrow>SURPRISE THE REST OF HIS KIT WAS GIGA BROKEN THE WHOLE TIMEthis needs to stop happening
>>580310804True Blink and BKB is good design
>>580297960Geist lost a quarter of her suck damage in one patch. Gun just isn't enough when half the S tiers bring both a strong gun and strong abilities.
>>580310804you can stack debuff resist too doe
>wait 7-8 minutes for a standard queue>wait 3 more minutes only for some retard to fail to loadyipee, time to wait some more
>>5803115985 seconds to find a match in Brool, the real game
I played Windranger, Dark Seer, Tiny and Morph on Dota2. Which Deadlock heroes are for me?
>>580311946I'm afraid a bullet is the only solution for picks like those. Minus Tiny, of course. At any rate, there's no real analogue for any of those characters in deadlock, but you might enjoy Paradox since she has a gimmick wall like Dark Seer and you can force people through it with her ult I guess and you can bomb enemy camps and farm them kind of like ion shell I guess
>>580312396>Minus TinyMost cancerous of the four
>>580311946Nothing really one to one but I'd try GT, Ivy, and Bebop.Vacuum is just an item you can buy
>>580312668>more cancerous than morphlinghell no
>>580312807Alright fair I let my hatred of Tiny overstep a bit there.
>>580310804dispel isn't that strong, most of the things it counters can just be reapplied and it doesn't remove ultimatescounterspell has no business blocking shit nothing else not even 6k items counter
>>580310804True cognitive dissonance.The statement implicitly agrees that some heroes are poorly balanced, while also implying that items are simultaneously perfectly balanced. e.g., do not engage with silver "players" because they cannot think beyond 8th grade logic
this game sucks maybe i should play dota 2 instead...
>>580313743>play doota>realise I'm at a game knowledge deficit>don't know how to carry my pubs>loseI wish I first played it back in 2012 instead of 2024.
>>580313743If you don't like stabbing yourself you probably won't like blowing your legs off.
>>580314193he can't turn to riot games, that shit is fisher price baby food dawg
>>580314149carry is unironically the easiest role, you just hit creeps and then hit people later on with bkb on. support (like usual) is the hard role because you have to carry the early game, spend all your money babysitting your carry, get vision on their camps and clear their vision on yours (you spend your gold on this too) and then late game you have to not get deleted while supporting your team and also carry dust smoke wards and anything else your team needs you to get
>>580314437>carry is unironically the easiest rolenot carry as in the role.
>>580314502it's a team game buddy
can we stop pretending that this game is similar to dota 2?
>>580314704Yes which is why I prefer Deadlock, I can use my mechanical skills to make up for a skill deficit as long as my teammates are still trying.
This game is even more casino than Dota because1. Mid boss is 3 extra lives instead of 1 in Dota, so it is super swingy2. It's easier to carry 1v9 than 1v11 and the Dota heroes scale way harder and have stat check items that just make them unkillable.I think Valve planned this to make the game more addictive since random is addictive to the human brain.
>>580314837True they dont have a single character as good as mokrill.
>>580314837Can we stop pretending Deadlock is not dota3?
>>580314837Yeah thank fuck we don't have stacking and camp blocking, that shit is ass
>>580314837overall meta, item, hero, and roster design takes a lot from dota though, and the game is better for it
>dotaThis game is moba paladins
>>580315419I never played that game but I'll take your word for it.
>>580315069Deadlock is a gacha game but seeing the result of your pull takes 30+ minutes of humiliation ritual
Increase mokrills scorn radius by a meter
Three weeks!!!!
>>580315621is this an xcom mod
>>580315621SEXO
>>580315621you said that in january
>>580315069>It's easier to carry 1v9 than 1v11 and the Dota heroes scale way harder and have stat check items that just make them unkillableWhat are you smoking? IF anything it's the oposite, if one of my teammates feeds a guy so hard I can always out mechanics him to win in deadlock in dota depending on the char the game could just be straight over.
>main Viscous in 2024>come back from a long break>T3 puddle punch has turned the ability into mindless aoe spam instead of a utility toolThey fucking ruined this character with just one change. I don't care if he's technically stronger now, Puddle Punch being a mobility/disruption tool that did little damage was such a better place for it in terms of game health
>>580315621screenshot so old it has corner stamina display
>>580316113Oh man you should have played him before they nerfed puddle punch damage this year.
>say Victor is a braindead overpowered champ>/dlg/: noooo!!!! He's bad you're just shit at the game!!!>Victor ends up at the top of the tier list with 60% WR>say Graves is a braindead overpowered champ>/dlg/: noooo!!!! She's bad you're just shit at the game!!!>Graves ends up at the top of the tier list with 60% WR>say Celeste is a braindead overpowered champ>/dlg/: noooo!!!! She's bad you're just shit at the game!!!>Celeste ends up at the top of the tier list with 60% WRYeah so I got a finger on the pulse of this shirtass game and you're all retarded faggots. I want every downplayer nigger naked and doing dogeza in front of my office in 5 minutes.
>>580316113He's still OP as fuck go kill yourself nigger>Dude I have eshift but better as a non ult ability
>>580316259excessively brick post
>>580316259>champ
>>580316259champ?>>580316323AIIIIIIIIIE A SAVE? A FUCKIN SAVE? YOSHI KILL THIS GOO SON OF A WHORE
>>580316423nvr4git /dlg/ inhouse comms>"GOD I HATE THIS FUCKING GOO NIGGER SO MUCH"
would it be good to use focus lens as billy?
>want to play>local infastructure shitting the bedI hate this third world shithole
>>580316259Victor is fair, celeste is OPOne has healing but is slow, one has healing and 4 stam + gravity
Just give Celeste 2 movement like holiday
noooooo I WILL NOT BUY SPIRIT RESnerf all spirit heroes NOW
>>580315419more like smite but with actually fluid movement.
Give mokrill 4 stamina
>>580317372let him grab from burrow since they seem to let him do literally everything else from it as well. And let him burrow jump too. Fuck it make him permanently burrowed.
WE HAVE YOU NOW
>>580317372>>580317498And scaling spirit+bullet resistances like dynamo.
mo and krill is opening doorman doors now??? what the fuck valve
You messed with the wrong team
>>580315964Meaning it is more swingy since you can always make a comeback. The enemy team can do the same.
>>580303683>Ven>OP in high mmrsource?
I seeeee yoooou!
>Open up game>pretty good opening with vindicta>mina is getting slammed on lane with celeste>feels good man>mid game>Russians are trying to put words together in english>everyone does his own thing>no teamplay >not a single rift taken>suddenly we are 50k souls behind>hope is lost.>Russians will be lost soon hopefully. Literary dude from Uzbekistan was much better in this game that those retards, they cannot be good at anything else but drinking industrial alcohol
>>580318650Consider the state of Deadlock if Hitler had successfully conquered Russia.
patch just got delayed into november so we have something to be thankful for
indians are solving millenium puzzles with AI while you're a balding fat chud playing rem on deadlock.
>>580319036but canadian thanksgiving is October 12th (america isn't gonna exist much longer anyway)
>>580319032Servers are more fucking mixed than London, I'm playing with some lads from California, Scotland, Sweden and fucking Kazachstan in single team, additionally I'm having Mcginnies in enemy team to piss me off more.
what are your realistic expectations for the update?
>>580320465Mcginnies/Apollo nerf and new map
>>580320465some sad weirdos whining for silver buffs
>>5803204654 boring as fuck new characters and inconsequential changes to the metagameoh, and make the performance worse too
>>5803204655+ hero remodels 6 new heroesPvE modeWalker/guardian remodels Some more map interiors getting finished
>>5803204653 New items and a Yamato remodel.
I have no words, I'll post the scoreboard after
>>580320465the most inane patch of all time with 4 items that are only good on 3 heroes each. a remodel or two. maybe some areas of the map redone. I don't know whether to laugh at or feel sorry for the people who actually expect new heroes from this update
>>5803204653 out of 6 new characters are black :^)
they're adding a third patron btw
>>580321406nigga it's been 8 months, why would it have LESS than the patch that took 5
and interesting proposition mr morrow but i know who really killed jay gatsby
How can we buff Paige without making her too cancerous?
>>580321942She is already cancerous. Fuck off
I hate when people with names like "Silver's knot polisher" get key player, feels wrong
>>580321380I can't do more, I just can't.At least 2 of our lanes were always pushed, whenever I killed 3 people or more my team scatters to go farm or something while their survivors push our base and force me back to counter push or kill them, then it just repeats for 46 minutes.I have never had the displeasure to playing such a constant cleanup match before.
>>580321942We don'tShe already completely ruined brool
>>580321986They could nerf her too, I'm open to that. I don't think eGirl characters have a place in valve games. Personally I'd like her gun to be more of a gun so Paige's can't just run at you like an ape holding m1 to win lane.
>>580320465incredible amounts of assblast no matter whatsinclair rework
>>580321942Give her a doggy that can do sinners and collect boxes from the sewers.
hand-holding vanilla sex with paige for the sole purpose of reproduction!
>>580323023
https://files.catbox.moe/ay9kb1.jpg
>>580323039How can you hold hands if you have paws/hooves/tentacles?
>>580322006Right? Should've been Silver's cookie cleaner instead
swapping!
>>580323164it was a Celeste player, I'm afraid no cookies were even a consideration
>>580323352me!
>our 4-10 venator insists that we can easily rush midboss on spawn with our dynamo ult>dynamo has no unstop>enemy team has billy ult, graves, infernus, vyper with max bola, seven ult>for the entire 30 seconds leading up to midboss spawning me and dynamo are begging him not to do it and saying it's a bad idea with their contest>NO DUDE NO TRUST JUST DO IT DUDE>we lose all 3 rejuv tokens and the game completely swings and we loseI sure do love using my mic, it's truly the solution to all problems
i have yet to click on a catbox in this thread that isn't garbage. do better
>>580322323Those are biggest individual stats I've seen in a while
>>580321569why would it have more? they don't have to do anything and you are not entitled to more content. they'll put out whatever they want and you will thank them for it
>>580323474Your reasoning was sound so you should have been able to convince them if you had more izzat.
I'm beyond mental boomedStandard is the worst cesspit of all time I'm just going ranked, fuck ever unlocking new heroes I guess
it is literally impossible to do anything in this game without antihealeven basic bitch bullet/spirit lifesteal just negates all your damage
>>580320465More black female amputees
>>580324016good thing there's plenty of it and on otherwise good items too
>>580323936Trying to play unfamiliar heroes but my opponents are Eternus Viscous mains
>>580323627https://files.catbox.moe/0vz8un.mp4
>every enemy is below half health and running for their lives>my team: "PULL BACK RUUUUUUUN FVCKING PULL BACK GET THE FVCK OUT AAAAUUUUGHHHHHH WE'RE GONNA DIE PULL BACK PULL BACK AAAAAAAA ! ! ! !">>580321520i've been feeling up the Diviner's Kevlar, and Cold Front instead of Stalkerbetter damage, better CC, better upgrade path, Papa Johns
I'm torn between old and new spirit burn, feels better to actually apply it on heroes I'm trying to do damage to and not some random minion 5 seconds ago, but it does less damage and it sucks building it on pocket and mina at like 18 minutes>>580323142wait a minute that's not geist
>>580323638never said i was, but they are making the game for fun, they aren't just sitting there all day wasting time for a paycheck
>>580324551>i've been feeling up the Diviner's Kevlar, and Cold Front instead of StalkerHuh?
>>580320465Item rework along with GT, Yama, and Vyper remodel.That is it, that is the whole patch.
>>580324698>they aren't just sitting there all day wasting time for a paycheckyou could have fooled me
>>580324963item rework is a separate patch lmao
LIFTING
>>580325237
>Delete Silver>Delete Celeste>Delete Doorman.There I made your game 100% better.
Allow mokrill to jump while burrowed
>>580325368>>Delete SilverShe's already the worst hero in the game, she's basically deleted
when she got that "paige fujoshi" humor but you genuinely havent gotten play since the first maelstrom
Allow mokrill to ult while burrowed (they pull the enemy into the tunnels, where they won't survive even 2 hours)
>>580325171Are you implying we're going to get two major patches in rapid succession?
>chat has a scroll bar>doesn't work unless you are in a match and pausedcool
>>580325659A real driftercel would just rape
I find mo and krill to be the most relatable
Threads have degenerated into complete slop YOSHI WE BEED THE PATCH NOW
>>580325948item update isnt a major patch
The best proplayer has officially spoken https://youtu.be/PZ4uZz8lSWk
high phantom games are unplayable now the rank inflation is coming faster than i'm able to play
>>5803025422XKO died before it even lasted a year. Deadlock is fine.
>>580326237You know the item update is the one yoshi mentioned in the discord right? The one that is slated for late September AKA early october when the beta ranked season ends right.
borgor
>Sneed's Feed & Seed? I remember when that place was Chuck's
>>580315621This was confirmed to be fake
>Get constant 1k ping>Do 20 different things to my DNS/router>None of them fix itIt only affects this game, literally no other game I play has this issue
>See, the sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where feed and seed both end in the sound "-eed", thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuck's", implying that the shop was owned by Chuck at some point. So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called "Chuck's Fuck and Suck".
https://vxtwitter.com/JulieJewelsNSFW/status/2097405742114283897
>tranny
>>580327119>have to login to viewKill yourself.
>>580327119>age restricted contentwhy the fuck is twitter so fucking shit now
EDDED TA BLOO
>not having a throwaway twitter account in 2026
>>580326528No, he said there were 3 updates. Ranked update, item update, and the "major content update". He said Ranked was first and he had not decided which of the other two would come after. It's pretty obvious now the content update is the next one. Even if it's not it is literally fucking 50/50 so you're just as wrong as I am.
ITANI LO SAHN *gets counterspell parried*
>>580327689>throwaway>with you phone and ID and face and picture of your anus for good measure
>>580327294trust me, you're not missing anything worth seeing
>>580327103The joke works because it was formerly Chuck's Feed & Seed.
>>580328383sex with gyarus
>>580327119I hate voiced comics and those """animations""" that are just panning the fucking image around
>>580327294>>580327324it's not worth it
K/D is the most important factor in winning >noooo but I clicked on the big static NPC more therefore I had more impactYou only were allowed to do that because someone else on your team killed a lot of enemies.
>>580328884Nuh uh*throws early lead by dying on cooldown for next 10 minutes*
>>580327978Things that never happen?>use knockdown on vindicta>it works and I kill her
>>580328383Why is all her porn cucking the dude she is with even worse it's majority blacked
>>580329467Their romantic dynamic is so boring that it is the only way to get anything out of it.
>>580329467Because her creator is a Woman
>>580329467>it's majority blackedwhite people
it's UP
>>580329624She’s literally madly in love with the MC in canon, don’t let NTR subhumans rot your brain.
>>580328884brown hands typed this
>>580302772>one of her abilities makes her small allowing her to travel through vents>one of her abilities makes her tall making her tanky for fights>one of her abilities doesn't do anything at all
>boot up deadlock>queue up for ranked>3 minutes pass>no match>close game
>>580329754Was it real in your head?
damn i guess it was my fault again one of my lanes went 0-12 before 10 min should've carried that one like the eternus 6 victor spammer from here
Oh my god, guys it's happening!??!
>>580330272it's real IRL buddy
>>580330315yep this guy definitely belongs in my games on my team
>>580330242>tfw somehow getting matches faster in fucking pubg of all games in 2026just gotta wait till the content update in uh, november? december? surely by q1 of 27?
>>580330512rank != skillrank = time played
>>5803305122000+ standard games btw, still cant play the fucking game
>Alchemist that dresses up as a bobby cop in New YorkEyup, ship it
>>580329467because she cosplays rape eroge characters, goes to bikini photoshoots and mixers with her friend group of slutty cosplayers and magically has money for all that despite being a highschooler AT THE VERY LEAST she isn't pure as they try to make you believe she is, realistically, she's escorting, she's the worst of all the hot girl likes the nerdy guy parodies, no one for even a second shipped the two of them, they went straight for slut because it's obviously what she is
>>580330459So it was real in your head.
>>580330616see >>580330617
So why does this site consider the matchmaking update a major update? When all it did was put everyone from initiate - ritualist together and emissary - eternus together? That's not a major patch at all.
>rem on my team every game>always takes our sinners frame 1 when they spawn>does literally nothing
How many people have mo and krill raped?
>>580330641the model is a placeholder with zero relation to waden's lore
>>580330674hot girl likes the nerdy guy fantasies*
>>580330674>t. Coomer tourist that did zero research
>>580330674>goes to bikini photoshoots>magically has moneyThe Photoshoots give her money. She is a model.
>>580330438yoshi said he'd give a head's up before the update is ready so I'm not sure who you're trying to fool here
>>580330803You don't have to downplay the patch to make it not seem like a major patchEven in the steam UI they designate it as a regular update
>>580328884just to day I won on miku by ignoring my team dying at mid boss and destroying their dropped patron by boosting on a sidelanethe enemy team can keep their K/D, I was the one left looking at a victory screen :^)
>>580329754((()))
>>580330848I read that crap for a bit lolsay she didn't do what I say she did, you mean the manga didn't reveal she's pregnant of one of her clients at the end? of course it didn't did I say it did?>>580330974yeah and models go to dubai to take pictures
>>580331190>Incoherent schizo babbleGo lay down, coomer. Your brain is getting fried from overexertion.
it just gets worse and worse
>Get placed on the Archmother side and have a nagging bitch in my ear the entire round
niggas out there larping some anime girl likes their neckbeard ass and they have the spine to say shit about some hentai
>the shitty low iq kda player MVP souls and ability kills >40 minute+ snooze fest>vs>the chad high iq kda player MVP with top souls, weapon kills, abilitiy kills, headshots, OBEJETVIE damage, probably a 35 minute gamenot the same
Reminder that good players are still pulling >60% winrates in solo queue
>>580331396>Projecting
>>580328884424134 has proven this wronghttps://youtu.be/qP1Msu-oWRU
>Rank up>Get the most abysmal dogshit teammates imaginableSo is this on purpose or what?
>>580331190>>580330674>"Its not le realism!" Realism trannies are the fucking worst. It reminds me of this one time some guy gave his fantasy world a realistic economy and nobody could afford to be adventurers.
>>580331462>NEETwhat? because of the amount of games played? why?
I have noticed that when I lose lane I get severely more souls/statue buffs from destructables.It's roughly 40% less.I think the game has hard coded rng on match launch and it decides who wins.This is over 1000 hours of play and it's very consistant
>>580330674lol her boyfriend is a 6 foot gigachad with a good face, he just happens to have a nerdy hobby
>>580331826Comeback souls
Which hero could rock hyper breasts and why is it Vindicta?
>>580330674am I still in the deadlock general?
>>580332202/DressupdarLinG/
How many people has infernus raped?
Dead and abandoned lock
>>580332202rognarok occurred before the update
oh goodie time for another evening of playing deadlock with my favorite hero
>>580332202Yoshi just announced a new hero. Her ultimate allows her to copy a hero appearance and all their abilities for a limited time. Similar to Loki from Rivals. Her name is Schmarin Okinawa.
>>580332431We’ve already deboonked this, if you are winning, you use less shields than average which reads as unlucky. If you are winning you are also simply more likely to have a higher rank than your teammates.This makes no sense because if you are winning you are not unlucky. They should have done hero diffs
>>580329467Show got popular with AmerimexicansSame reason that disgusting fetish plagues shit like Naruto
>>580331572When ranked came out this person ended up being hard stuck phantom. They only got in "high elo" lobbies because the match making was really loose
>>580331572Jesus Christ fuck off already. It was obvious this was you when you first made the video and shilled it here, and it's obvious nowCould you be more desperate?>ermagerd is that a player... DYING FOR WALKER???
>>580333015When ranked dropped they already patched that strat out
Start buying mystic reverb on shiv
>>580333830Daring today
>>580332983Its an izzat thing like with indians. They self-insert as the guy.
Mina would 100% support Clancy
>>580329467>white people enter a hobby/community>it goes to shitjust like deadlock
Warden's gun still feels like it deals no damage for 90% of the game, I'm going to be mad if they end up actually nerfing it again.
>>580335353just buy merc mag.........
>>580335168The kids should have i-framed their mother's attacks with a briefcase and teleported to their cloak to escape.
Why can mina cast quantum leap 3 times in a row?
Build your patch! Souls - 16k+ 9.6k for PVE mode+ 3.2k for jungle rework, additional 1.6k for mid boss change on top+ 1.6k for item update, additional 1.6k if it massively changes itemization + 3.2k for open beta / release with skins and battle pass + 1.6k for each character remodel you want+ 1.6k for map update, additional 1.6k for a major overhaul beyond mostly visual improvements+ 1.6k for performance optimizations+ 1.6k for general balance changes+ 1.6k for each new hero+ 1.6k for a new objective+ 800 for UI improvements+ 800 for each individual buff/nerf you want+ 800 for each character rework you want + 800 for hideout update, additional 800 for minigames+ 800 for lore additions + 800 for leaks about the next major patch thereafter
>>580335708idc
>>580335708>9.6kBro is stuck on the old patch, we breakpoint at 8k and 12k now
>>580335229>White people enter a hobby they createdif it wasn't for White people you'd still be living in a mud hut, where you belong.
>>580335708Battle pass + 8 heroes
>>580331572didn't he get perma banned?
>>580336163im japanese....
>>580336321>I'm south asianFTFY
>>580336191Battle pass already dropped(it’s ranked)
>>580335229Now you know how white people feel when browns infest their countries
praying for the patch on the 16th
Is Venator just a worse grey talon or am I underestimating weapon scaling and free healbane?
>>580336321the Japanese still fought with samurai when the first American battleship arrived
>>580336191This guy gets it
>>580336602grey talon has a wall stun?
>>580335229>>580332983>>580329754you know it's mostly gooks and chinks who love this shit right
>>580336896venator has free relic curse?
>>580336997He's a retarded baitposter, that's why only one person replied to his posts.Just ignore him and move on, he just wants attention and he's seething at white people all the time.
>32 weeks since the last major patch
>>580336997Don't forget the Paki's
>>580336997holy projection
>>580336602uhhno?they don't play at all similar nor do they even remotely fill the same role
>>580335708I buy the item update 10 times so you have to update your build every 2 weeks
>>580337869I don't have builds, I improvise every game. Checkmate fag
>>580336602You are underestimating but also I am once again attempting to redpill the massesEvery part of his kit provides utility except the ult. This means if you had 0 damage items you could still have impact through anti heal knock back stun and root. The ults damage is 48% boon based and the nade is 75% boon based. So if you were to run a weapon build with half the standard weapon damage you still have 75% damage ultConsidering this, consider a utility focused orange build where you take items like weaken headshot, weighted shots, toxic bullets, items that give a utility effect. You still get decent damage from the weapon investment and additionally provide even more utility
HAZE IS CUMMING
GHOST MILK!!!
>>580338120breasts don't grow that large naturally without having a hormonal disease or obesity. you sicken me
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>>580338291Ehrmshe a ghostdon't be a bigot sister
>>580338510vindicta was killed as a kid and came back during the first maelstrom 70 years ago - exactly how did she age into a prime 25 year old woman?
>>580338000a build i want to try is capacitor + merc mag + supporting itemsit sounds retarded but he has a very good base DPS and traps have a decent spirit ratiowith a bit of firerate it could pump and the utility from capacitor seems pretty good in your combos
>>580337683They have the same kit, but don't play similarly because GT hard mogs>4 stam and not fat stamina>both have a poke, GT can build the better poking spirit items>flight is a better disengage than gutshot, although gutshot is better at securing kills>GT trap is the only non-item curse>Bird is a better kill secure than Ira domini. Both even have a wind up.All Venator has going for him is his immense charisma
>>580338000I think you have the right idea. This is why I build Venator as a front liner.
>>580338715yeah nah the comparison is incomprehensible and the justifications are equally so
i want to father her wolfchildren
I'm scared but I think I'll try to play a round of the normal gamemode!
>>580338568Magic~
I haven't won a single Celeste and Mina game sicnce the new ranked dropped
>>580338893I think his base hp is too low for true frontline but it’s not a bad strat because it covers his weaknesses and enables gutshot
>>580335708spend it all on UI
vyper remodel when
>>580340509hopoo...
DOORMAN NO
>>580340509need to SPANK!
>>580338291you tellin me big naturals are all deathly ill?
>>580301713Nice matchmaking
>no you don't understand Silver NEEDS 4 stamina bars I NEED infinite mobility for my bruiser closer range rape hero NO I will NOT use positioning and strategy I WANT to facetank and rightclick everything to death otherwise the game will die!!!I see LoLbabs have fully migrated to Deadlock
>>580341507play like 50 more games with your winrate and you'll be eternus in no time.assuming that winrate is even accurate with all the holes in statlocker's data (especially at low ranks unless you're uploading your own match data).
>>580341658She actually does need that, she's genuinely unplayably bad
>>58034202140 more straight wins wouldnt even put that guy in oracle
>>580303461All this EXCEPT the heal on killHer snowballing in a teamfight was half the perceived problem that got her nerfed, just turn her t5 into another big defensive boost like 30% less damage taken instead
>>580342784Heal on kill was the only thing that made her remotely viable in the mid to late game
Silvertroons be like>NOOOO SHE'S THE WORSE HERO IN THE GAME SHE NEEDS 4 STAMINA 30 BULLET RES SPIRIT RES PLUS 5 MS PLUS 50 ATTACK SPEED AND ABLO BLO BLOO BLOO BLOO BLOO BLOOGravesGODS be like>Yes, she's overpowered. I don't care. It's free elo.
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE ITEM SYSTEM REVAMP!!!>item that gives you 30% weapon damage, but only between 10 and 20 minutes>item that gives you 20% for 3 seconds but only when you burn all your stamina by dashing into a wall>an upgrade to Berseker which gives you 150% weapon damage, but only when you're dead>mystic shot upgrade which does 300 spirit damage (1.0 spirit ratio scaling), but shoots in a random direction>item called "Tuesday Special" which increases weapon damage and fire rate by 40%, but only on Tuesday evenings (requires two sequential Dash jumps to activate)>item which increases weapon damage by 30% but only while falling>item which reduces your bullet velocity and increases bullet spread, no benefits>weighted shot now just slows you down and does nothing else>ricochets can now hit you and your allies>spirit burn now blinds you for the duration (includes white screen and tinnitus.ogg)
I don’t play silver but still shill for buffs because nerf rape isn’t cool
>>580343083But it was all or nothing, either you got the heal on kill and you'd already won the fight, or you didn'tIt should just be a strong defensive buff so its value doesn't switch wildly between 'worthless' and 'enabling' in any given game, which compounds her problem of being a feast or famine hero
Start building every single duration extending item on graves.
>OH MY GOD, TEAMMATE WATCH OUT!!! THAT'S A 10 HP STUNNED ENEMY YOU'RE ONE BUTTON PRESS AWAY FROM KILLING!!!>STEP ASIDE!! I'LL TRANSFORM THEM INTO A TINY CREATURE WITH HIGH MOVE SPEED!! THAT WILL SAVE YOU!!
>>580343742>Superior Duration >magic carpet >spiritual overflow>diviners Kevlar Is he cooking?
>>580343565>knockdown causes you to fall through the map where you'll be stuck in the void for remainder of the match>silence wave gives comm ban to anyone hit by it>activating unstoppable lets you play while the game is paused
>>580343565>an upgrade to Berseker which gives you 150% weapon damage, but only when you're dead>doorman builds this with cheat death and somehow proccs it
I want a character with a sword. Not some wimpy rapier, but at least a proper bastard sword.
>>58033570810 NEW HEROES PLEASE!Genuinely all I care about.
>>580338429yoshi has got to release this fucking patch man we're having people dying of a stroke over here
every game of this year releases in september and early october. valvo had their chance to get ahead of the curve but it looks like they've chosen obscurity instead. looks like it really was eos this whole time RIP buckeroo hardly knew him
>I like my pillowAs opposed to someone not liking their pillow? Why would they get a pillow they do not like?
>>580335708announcement that deadlock is purchased by an indian private equity company
>>580344841It literally doesn't matter when they release anything. The Deadlock fanbase doesn't overlap with other games at all.
>>580344285Yamato is right there with her superior nippon steel katana.
>>580335708800 for full kelvin rework. gun, every ability, stats, everything. or, even if i need to pay 5x, delete kelvin from the game3.2k for map update and overhaul featuring museum and green bridges from 2024 map1.6k for optimizations3.2k for 2 new objectives4.8k on jungle & midboss reworkdon't care about the rest
>>580345053
>>580345053you mean the one she never uses?
>>580344841surprise half life 2 remaster vr reveal trust me
>>580344841Valve is the predator, these other games should be the worried ones
>>580344180>silence wave gives comm ban to anyone hit by itUnironically add this, it would be extremely funny
>>580335552S++++++++ tier silver would've soloed clancy + all of epstein island while still having duration left on ult. honest B tiers like wraith and warden could never.
>>580343807This motherfucker has the best cc button in the game, a spirit nuke on his 1, is able to steal any ult and use it on a infinetly lower cooldown. and a gun with insane stats.How the fuck has he not been nerfed?
I'd be whistling to Silver's wheatfield 24/7.
>>580345928why cringe on purpose?
How the fuck are you suppose to learn a hero in standard when you get 4 massive retarded teammates
>>580345206She technically uses it for her 1 and 3 but the blade itself is just not very visible in the animations.
>>580338568>vindicta was killed as a kidNice headcanon
>>580346287You learn the hero playing bot matches and testing in the practice rangeYou get good at the hero in Standard
>>580346512this, you don't learn deadlock stuff in the middle of an actual match
>>580346287focus on your own gameplay and not theirs?you're gonna get retarded teammates again since it's not a particularly rare event, consider it experience. maybe think of ways to pull yourself out of that event if you even can.
>>580346287>learning a hero means winning as that hero
>>580335708item update + 8 new heroes + hideout with fun minigames to play.new heroes should be 800 souls each, since a flat 1.6k gets me a gorillion new items.
5 bucks the meta sees no changes but they nerf siphon bullets to make tanks even stronger
>>580347378worse, they're gonna nerf siphon bullets as their "solution" to gun lash and not change anything else about him.
>>580335708How many points for Hoodwink?
>>580347378God I hope not, Mo and Krill are super duper fucking cancer right now.
>>580346512Bot matches teach you nothing
>>580345867shitty model therefore D tier. just wait till he gets a new model, people won't be able to shut up about how SSS+++ TIER BROKEN he is then
>>580347378They should make it so siphon bullets is a shitty build up and toxic bullets just does flat % hp damage
Is egg + cultist the secret to victory?
Do you think Silver's neurons flash fry everytime someone calls her "good girl"?
Where are the mokrill buffs?
>>580349335>lets buff the guy who can litearlly gain infinite health
dead game (no cap)
>>580349498ackshully he's limited by time
>>580349498Doesn't matter when anti-tank and %health damage items exist
>>580349072why cringe on purpose?
>>580349714Do you empathize with the good girl?
>play carry>runs past minion wave because they see 1 (one) person on the map and donates a 2k bag after getting gankedGenius.
2 more weeksuntil the worst most unbalanced shit you've ever seen
what even is the meta of this game or do you pick top tier ultimate soup?
my favorite drifter line is when he says "ITS DRIFTIN' TIME" and then he drifts all over pocket's bussy
>>580350371sorry his thussy
>>580350507i mean...their thussy
why is pocket asian?
>>580350734why is mina asian?
>>580350734the only race where non binary works because their men look like girls
would egg be saved if the outgoing damage penalty only applied against players?
>>580350962deadlock is based>all nigs are criminals>grey talon the most stereotypical native american ever>asian woman is a golddigging whore
>>580351078>grey talon the most stereotypical native american ever>"noooo I hate sterotypes! they make my ethnic background seem cool and interesting"legitimately will never understand why native americans are like this and don't think they just get to be sterotyped as cool af if they leaned into it even a little bit
does anyone know what the fuck is going on with low priority queues? especially in OCE? I've got two accounts pretty much perma-locked because no matter how long I wait, it never seems to find a match. has this dumb fuck yoshi region locked the queue?
reminder that deadlock is developed by a single h1b indian making 500k a year with chatgpt and yet (you) are still addicted to it
>>580352313>500kthat's it? in 2026? lol!
>>580352220OCE just has a pathetically tiny population, outside of primetime you're not going to be able to get a whole game worth of LPQers.
>>580352220How tf did you get low prio in oce?You will need to wait until evenings and weekends I guess, no way you will get one during the day.Legit were u just screaming at people constantly in games or something?
>>580352313Valve is barely hiring Americans these days. Half of their staff are immigrants from Europe, Russia, and Asia.
>>580352656nice job donny t
>>580352313what you don't see here is that the indian is the white guys bodyguard.
>>580352527it used to just chuck me in with rusoniggers, worst the queue would get is ~12 minutes, if it is region locked now you're right, might as well make another new account but also fuck this game>>580352554got tired of having to play through 50+ min matches with inters, I left one match and got hit with it and the account has been locked for ~3 months. OCE queue is full of mentally ill faggots and centrelink dropouts, I don't wish the experience on anyone.
>>580350962
>>580342021>play like 50 more games with your winrate and you'll be eternus in no time.not even close.>50 game win streak = 21,000 points>points needed for a full rank = 7,000 pointsSo a 50 game winstreak get's you 3 full ranks, you would need a 150 game winstreak to climb from seeker to eternus. It's the worst ranked system ever created.
>>580353185>150 games for bottom of the barrel retard tier to the top 0.1%Thats not even hard
>>580353421>150 game WINSTREAKretard
too many ADHD niggers on tonight>ME FIGHT>ME GO>ME TURN AROUND AND GO RIGHT BACK IN AND DIE>ME IN POSTION TO FIGHT>ME GO>ME PUSH WALKER>ME GO
im not going to teamfiight im just going to farm jungle. i dont care if we lose its a game lol
>>580353037Just get on a vpn and tunnel to NA i get low prio matches in under 5 mins
>>580353545its all been Abrams, pick a lane you stupid blue berry ape nigger
>>580353421that's 150 straight wins, if youre a normal winrate but still really good at like 70% winrate now it's infinitely more games it's such a dogshit system it's just there to waste your time making you play more
>>580353185so you have to play several hundred games to hit the highest rank.is that really that big of a deal? all the high ranked players have at least 600 games played total and that's probably on the really low end.i don't think someone with 30 wins getting into the highest rank in the game is good for anyone either. if you play the game because you enjoy it you'll settle in, instant gratification will make the system even worse.
>>580353746literally doing that right now (still appreciate the advice), it's dogshit that the users have to work their way around it instead of the troon dev team
>>580353930Low prio used to take like an hour here as well so maybe it's just bugged
>>580353543>>580353886Yeah, I understood the post.To imply that anything less than 150 games to the 0.1% is reasonable is a joke.Average mobas require 1000+ games to get anywhere near top rank. It's the entire point. You either sit down and do what the devs are tricking you into doing, aka grinding the living fuck out of the game, or you accept the fact that you're not getting to the peak.
>>580353901>so you have to play several hundred games to hit the highest rank.it's a big problem when you have seasonal resets every 2 months. The slower it takes to climb/fall the worse the match quality will be. The anon with a 76% winrate in seeker obviously shouldn't be there but will have to play hundreds of games to get near his true rank while stomping noobs and ruining their games.
>>580354626ill just buy a e6 acount for 50 dollars
>>580341507Well maybe you should carry harder and have zero wins.
>>580354683It happensI calibrated into acolyte for some reason and have climbed to mystic with a 65% winrate when I was oracle before ranked.We will have to see how they do ranked seasons and if there even is a reset, dota doesn't have seasonal resets
>>580354626Stupid cunt that's not even to 0.1% from sentinel that's barely even 3 ranks, and yes winning 150 in a row should probably put you at the top of the game
>>580355021>sentineloh so im talking to ai that makes sense
>>580354683i don't agree with the seasonal rank resets either but it kind of served a purpose even if it came with it's own flaws.a lot of shitty boosted players are NOT getting back into eternus and if you're an active player when the rank resets happen you're still getting matched with people who were the same rank as you before.it's just a pretty hard problem to solve for everyone and every system comes with weird drawbacks.
>>580355021go win 150 games in a row and then petition valve to change your rank to eternus 6.
>>580354626>yeah I understood the postAre you sure? That's 150 games with a 100% winrate and full winstreak bonus, in reality nobody is going to do that and if they can then they should be in eternus 6.
>>580355270>>580355139*rapes you 150 times in a row instead*
>>580355157>a lot of shitty boosted players are NOT getting back into eternusthere are multiple players in eternus with negative winrates, I don't think that was possible before.>it's just a pretty hard problem to solve for everyone and every system comes with weird drawbacks.It's a solved problem, just use DOTA's glicko system. Deadlock devs are trying to reinvent the wheel and failing miserably.> if you're an active player when the rank resets happen you're still getting matched with people who were the same rank as you beforeit's condensing 11 ranks into 8, it reduces match quality. Resets aren't needed if the mmr isn't inflationary.
>>580301713venator is my favorite character but my aim sucks ass so i won't play him
>>580356021where are these 40% winrate eternus players?are you just looking at their solo winrates and ignoring the rampant duo queue abusing everyone is doing?i think at least one rank reset had to happen before launch and maybe they didn't pick the best choice but it was better for them to try it now instead of when the game officially releases.
is this the perfect billy build?
>>580356305
>>580356547Does leech even work on bashdown damage?
>>580356579statlocker has him at 51% winrate in his last 200 games.bad players exist and weird outliers exist so i'm not defending whoever that is but if he actually sucks and is a net negative in his games he will derank.
>Guy says his one trick character is banned>Proceeds to backseat everyone else on our team>Can collectively see my team throw for "the lolz">Join them>Guy doesn't crashoutThrew my game for a crashout but got nothing. Fucking gay ass game.
>>580357427i find it funny that i can read the enemy chat when i download a replay
>>580357575that is funny
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/hero-idea-the-bouncer-boxer-bruiser-melee-carry-omnislash-plz.161255/here's your melee carry bro
I wanna play deadlock but at the same i don't wanna
Can't believe I got Silver mogged by this double stealth rapist werewolf build
So tankbuster is just bugged on celeste right?How does she reliably proc that shit 4 times in 2 seconds?
>>580358434>slop fighterPass
>>580360084celeste is balanced stop being homophobic
>>580359753Still the strongest hero in the game, same as she's been since her release, despite the constant downplay from furry redditors
Seekerchad here, how to deal with graves??Had a great match that went for 60 minutes, lineup was okay but we were probably short one more damage dealer (i was m1 as vyper).feel like graves is a natural counter to vyper with the Grasping Hands, just can't slide around comfortably when she can throw it out constantly (I had unstoppable and dispel).Ultimately feel like we lost because she was just too much with the refresher. Can't just go for her Tombstones because the team was always defending them. Each side had shrines down, counter-pushing for us was dangerous because they'd press and overpower the rest of the team. Happy with my itemisation, I just think this one came down to counter-play but couldn't really deal with the Graves, any thoughts?
>>580360240you mean transphobic chud
Buff mokrills burrow
>>580360672He should just be invincible underground that would be more realistic
>>580360372Graves becomes an actual hero after 25 minutes, if you don't have a decisive lead by then all the usual advice like clear the skulls, jump the wall, kite her and her ghouls becomes less effective, but the hero is so bad you should be able to rape her before that point so she won't be a problem.
>>580360672Reduce his gun resistance to 50% but buff his spirit resistance to 50%. BOOM I fixed his burrow.
I would like to apologize to the active reload silver fagI wasn't familiar with your game
Increase mokrills health per ult kill gain.
>it took two years for deadlock players to notice that the hero with insane HP, dps and the most movespeed in the game is actually really strongabsolutely hopeless community
>>580360672this its only doing 500 damage in lane wtf so low?
>>580356023Don't worry, he's tied for the worst character in the game, and I'm not even joking.>One shot from his 4 does less damage than a wraith card.>On top of this the max level talent for his 4 is bugged, the execute still only applies to the final shot.>He has one of the slowest base movement speeds in the game, and the other characters have abilities to compliment their movement (Abrams Charge, Victor 2, etc.)>His gutshot is bugged, parries still go off even if the target gets stunned by a wall collision, this has been reported countless times and still not fixed.>The only thing he has going for him is that he is legit the only full gun character in the game, traps being the exception.He's dogshit.
>>580361672so dogshit he's picked all the time at the highest level>no you
>>580362008He's picked at the highest level and still only wins 43% of the time, you got me there!>but muh nightshift.Wow you get 6 people together that are playing at a Top 100 region level and they still barely manage to make him work!Wow!You got me there!
>caring about silver buffs We need mokrill hp per boon buffs first
>>580362262yes he's hard and inconsistent that's not badsilver and shiv are bad, venator is good
>>580362262Sillies mislabeled LOSERATE because Silver obviously is winning 60% of her gamesreally though, his 4 only does double the damage of a wraith card, which wraith is also able to shoot while throwing cards and doesn't lock herself out of any abilities
>>580362262>b-b-but he gets picked in pretend pro gamesok?
>>580362262>>580363027F-ilver...
just made it to ritualist, I am now the highest rank player here AMA
>>580363149um shes still good though because she stomps me in my seeker games ok
>>580362262>Wow you get 6 people together that are playing at a Top 100 region level and they still barely manage to make him work!And who are those 6 people playing against?
>>580363040that's what I'm saying
>>580362589Shiv's 1 & 2 can be a bit weak without rage but he's pretty fun especially with his shotgun movement
>>580363694replied to wrong post
why is viscous allowed to have infinite AOE stuns in his ult, as well as having a 165 damage long range AOE from minute 0?
>>580349072Only when women do it
>>580364091ummmmmm why not
>>580364091Also he's for some reason able to cast ALL abilities during ult
>>580364091sorry but some streamer said he's C tier niche so we are never ever touching him except for buffs -Yoshi
>>580331128>freak caseconcession acceptedK/D reigns supreme
>>580328884Just like everything else in this gameI T D E P E N D S
who's the best at lane janitoring?mirageivyor rem?
>>580365536Ivy for sure, you can't beat her ult>win a fight but two of your lanes are bad>fly to one pushed lane>kill wave with some combination of dropped teammate/bomb/kudzu>fly to next lane, land there and kill it with your gun>ult halfway to being up again
>>580365536Mirage and ivy can both be better depending on the game stateI'd say they're equal and personal preference
>>580333176Why does this macro chad 242 make you so butthurt?
>>580364091Have you tried using his ult to get infinite aoe stuns
>>580365536wraith with rico
>>580365536Ivy. She can push as deep as into base guardians, if someone comes for her she darts away with four stamina bars, presses 3 for invincibility and 4 to go to the opposite lane.
victor shouldn't count as in rift while he's reviving
>>580365536for me it's splitpushers like Graves, McGinnis, and Geist. They cannibalize waves for janitorial purposes, and then you get the added bonus of being able to initiate a splitpush if the other team is out of position. I don't really play Rem but I feel like all he does is put a chudling on a minion and he's better suited for just doing that as a decoy tactic before joining a teamfight and healing and sleeping people. Meanwhile the other characters I mentioned are going to necessitate two players or even three players responding if they have a decent net worth and are splitting solo. Rem does not. He needs teammates to jump to.
>>580366408truth novaput it on the forums, goy
>janny banned me because I wasn't being enough of an anti-israel zohran mamdani cocksucking libcucksuck my dick you he/she
>>580366093>this character is not fun to play and overpowered>UHM... WHY AREN'T YOU WASTING YOUR PRECIOUS TIME PLAYING LAME CHARACTERS LIKE HIM?because i'm not a ghoul who plays games to boost my rank.
>>580366569gas yourself jew
>>580366681mein plësure
>>580366638You're having a meltdown, I meant that it's not particularly easy to get infinite aoe stuns with the ult. You need to put the game aside for a few days if you're having emotional reactions like this.
>>580328884Is that so?>>580322323Pushing and doing objectives wins games
>>580364091because valve is ran by trannies these days and have no idea how to make a video game
>>580365235pretty much everyone agrees that viscous is strong, you dont have to make up scenarios to make things sound worse than they are
>killsteak>teammates will let you die just so they can have their own killstreak and have you end yourskill yourselves honestly.
I come from shooters and my aim is good, but the whole itemization thing is still new to me. Who should I play other than Vindicta?
am i hallucinating or is there two versions of cornerboost? i know it's supposed to make a specific sound when you hit it, but sometimes i get like a mini one that makes a different sound it seems
>winning game hard>up 4v2>underfarmed teammate haze 1v1ing drifter on rift >go to help>drifter's other teammate also comes to help him>we lose the fight>two of my other teammates just jungling for 200 souls for no reasonhate this game (we won but subhuman behavior ruins my enjoyment of it)
awooo :3
>>580367661just play haze, run around, and kill peopledon't think, just killwill be perfect for you
>>580367661vyper probably
>>580367661Warden
>>580367792>g*rm
>>580367128insane projection in this post
>>580365235The fact that this is legitimately how Yoshi approaches balance boils my bloodStupid fucking redditor will ensure the same heroes remain strong until the end of time because they're eceleb comfort picks
>>580367792>>580368185>partie wurde pausiert>fluch der lykaner>festgesetztWhy is every language except english such a fucking meme
>>580368498doesn't DA KANGZ have too many articles
>normal character: goes 0-12 in lane, afk farms and still shits out damage>grey talon: goes 0-1 in lane but does not luck upon a bunch of bird stacks, does no damage regardless of farm. shit out of luckI don't think this is good design. Stack characters have no place in this game
>>580367128why does every irrifutable, level-headed take get deflected as "cope seeth mad mald angrey butthurt"? why is carrying a conversation so impossible for some of you people?
>>580367792Mina straight up saved your ass feeding you a reset with that grounded ult lmao
>>580368841>cope seeth mad mald angrey butthurtwe call those concessions
why is he called mo and krill if he isnt an aquatic animal
>>580368841The internet being more and more widely available to 3rd world trash incapable of using their heads
>>580368995I dont quite know what her gameplan was Tbh. Flys from 1 side of the tunnel to the other side of the tunnel right through me.She could just stand at range, i think she just didnt expect it to turn out this way
>>580368841You genuinely sound like you're having a psychological episode, I'm saying this out of concern for you. You need to calm down.
>>580369758it's short for krilliam
>>580370028I accept your concession.
>>580368841Bro, you're on current year 4chan. This is not the place to look for reasonable discussion. Everyone with a functioning brain left for greener pastures.
>>580367661Haze, Wraith, Lady Geist, Holliday, Paradox, Ivy, Mirage to mention a number of heroes who reward aim while performing different roles for their team
>>580366638I don't play Viscous because it's not my style but I wouldn't say it's an unfun to play hero. It actually seems to be incredibly fun once you perfect his playstyle.That said, it can be a bullshit hero.But that's a bit of Icefrog's philosophy. A hero that is mechanically challenging will become busted and he thinks that's perfectly fine. The issue comes with not understanding that this genre attracts the most autistic, tunnel visioned, hyperfocused tryhards out there and high skill ceiling heroes will dominate every rank until you reach a rank where other sweaty players dedicate the entire match shutting that character down.That said, I feel like it's much better to play against a competent Viscous than a Calico or a Paradox/Mina with perfect aim, specially because in lower ranks no one buys utility items.
>>580360372Get dispel magic and intentionally slide through the grasping hands for a free heal as you run her down
>>580370368Okay, let's look at these "greener pastures">Reddit: every other thread is about who is a lesbian>Discord: they just talk about tranny shit not even related to the game in any capacity
>>580370472If viscous was punished after being parried on puddle punch it would be a lot better. Like a lockout from casting another while pausing cooldown would be good enough
>>580371027Doesn't Rebbutal count as an actual parry?
>>580371206yes but that means you have to buy rebuttal and the damage means nothing really
>>580370762>tranny tranny trannythat guy was right, no functioning brain present here. only an obsessed one.
>>580371027Sure only if they make the cast time of puddle punch 1/2 of what it is now, it's way too easy to parry.
>>580301914Silver is impossible to balance because she has 6 skills with 3 of them having less then 10s of CD, shit like witchmail makes her broken
Rem is fun to a degreeEvery build leaves him squishy as shit because everyone sticks to their teams balls like they need the salt, but that's just not how low rank playsEveryone gets caught out one by one before I can jump to them to even give them a chance then I blow up because I have no way outFun trying to steal the enemy farm though
>>580318650>vindicta>>mina is getting slammed on lane with celesteHot but wouldn't this count as supernatural on supernatural crime? Not a good luck for supernaturalcucks desu
>>580330819>>580330641Are his animations placeholders?The cage and his ult both feel, I dunno, incomplete
are russians really that bad or are you guys just racist?
>>580371859It can be both.
So the current "meta" it seems is to have two M1s, a frontliner, a "support", a spirit nuker, and if possible a roamer/pick character.Is this normal for DOTA? I don't know what the positions are or what they mean.But every
>>580371989My aim is truer than ever!
Literally every player seems to have a different opinion on when to sell the egg and they’re all very vocally correct and angry at you
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=tnt-3HoCI3o&si=taSmf2NqJTgbDoNb
>>580372141in my experience you either hold it till 30, or you sell it early for a big spike item that you need.I'm not sure why you would buy it for any other reason.
>>580372141it's usually a stupid buy unless youre victor
>>5803721412400 is the sweet spotnot sure why people insists on 3200 or 1600For the former, the match the basically over at this point and the latter is not a significant enough boost you may as well not buy
why does toxic bullets exist when decay is better in every practical way? can anyone explain??
>>580372802because toxic bullets can be reapplied after a debuff, and decay goes onto a significant cooldown.
>>580372802Toxic contributes to gun investment, has no CD and can be reapplied immediately if it gets dispelled.It's still pretty shit because it's eaten multiple nerfs in a row but the difference is pretty obvious.
My patron wish is to knock up vindicta with triplets.
My patron wish is for anons to have a happy day :)
My patron wish is to rework the melee system so we have more auto aim heroes in melee mode
My patron wish is to destroy the world >:(
>>580374015it didn't come true
>>580350239It will be perfectly balanced because the secret playtesters are very qualified and have been working hard playtesting for us second class playtesters.
>>580360372Ricochet is the biggest counter to Graves. You are playing a gun character so its ok to buy just to fuck Graves.
>>580371989No, that isn't even how dota is structured.It doesn't have roles that fit its positions but they are a separate thing you are trying to team build for.So the "positions" in dota and what you would queue up for are just pos1-5, they are farm priority of who gets the most access to farmso generally your best scaling hero as 1 all the way to heroes who function effectively without items at 5.But those aren't really jobs you are trying to fulfill, obviously certain farm priorities correlate better to certain things, like your supports will generally have more disables so if you are looking for reliable disables and your supports don't have them its a lot harder, as its way easier to be a good impactful hero without items if you have a stun that if you have crit for example.So generally you are looking for burst damage, sustained damage, and initiation as minimum, obviously in coordinated organized play this is different but lets talk about pubson top of that you are also looking for lockdown/setup (reliable stuns, basically click target stuff that doesn't require any setup, unlike stuns that happen after a delay or when conditions are met), catch (spells to literally catch people trying to escape, be this just long range stuns, slows, etc, spells that pull you back or allow you to otherwise reposition enemies and the such), front lining, scouting (or other information gathering, be it via themselves, summons, or spells), teamfighting, ganking, and many other thingsgenerally you are either trying to specialize a draft around 1 thing or generalize and try to fill gaps (we have no catch, we have no stuns, we have no late game, so you either pick someone who fills all that or try to specialize into going early) and then also how greedy or farm reliant a draft isIt isn't really like other mobas where every hero interchangeably does what others do in the same lane.
>>580371989dota 2 has basically no roles except carry and that's why draft is an absolutely nightmare in that game cause nobody agrees on how the game should be played and games are griefed from the start even WITH role queuenever add draft to deadlock or it will be the end of it
I find myself buying spirit res (the 3200 item) every game now. I noticed too late because I was just vibe building. What actually happened
>>580371989Mo and wraith cover that entire list
>>580376372Lots of incidental spirit damage.So unless you have really high natural sustain so you can shrug it off you will just get worn down and decide you need it to survive all the aoes in fights otherwise after you get chipped you get focused.Let alone when you actually vsing spirit damage dealers so you need it just for its mitigation
>playing on smurf account>we get mid>team INSTANTLY starts trying to 5 man push yellow walker with no waves shoved instead of pushing waves, stealing their farm and then pushing>I call them out for this when they die 8 times on yellow>they try arguing with me>go afk in fountainpraise the lord that valves anti AFK is fucking terrible so I can just do this any time I want
>>580377054>smurf to play with lowskill players>get mad when the lowskill players are lowskillwaow
>>580377054smurfs don't smurf because they want to climb. they smurf so they can farm clips and masturbate over their high kd. what you doing there, buddy
My top prio and secondary prio were both either taken or banned for 7 consecutive games. I've never seen that shit before, and it was actually the most awful shit.I had to call someone a faggot in voice u.u
>>580377490it's fine to be a shitter, just don't argue with objectively correct logic because you fucked up and wasted our lead with a bad call.>>580377638practicing characters I have sub 10 games on
>>580377906>practicing characters I have sub 10 games onyou don't have to smurf for this
>>580377906It's fine to smurf, just don't expect the retards you're willingly queuing into to not be retarded.
Apparently warden gets debuff resistance on top of a massive spirit shield and move speed. What the fuck are the devs even doing? It can't be working on the game. Shit game. We are ALL playing marvel rivals on the new update friday
Throw me a rem build please. All the top ones are pillow, gun, or streamershit.
>>580379809just build 4 actives depending on what your team needs >but i dont know what my team needsthen you aren't ready for rem
>>580379875>team needsor just build curse & slowing hex and whatever else you feel like the rest works out. Hard to go wrong with curse or hex.
Is there any way to put an item in a build multiple times? To be in different categories.
Are there roamers that can scale or is buying trophy collector on every single one of them the only option?
>>580378429Literally just buy debuff remover and play heroes like Shiv or Mina into Warden (he hates heroes that can LOS him). The hero is strong, but the reason he "came put of nowhere" is that his natural predators are getting picked less and people are lettig cage exist as an ability.
>>580380949>Play (ABILITY BASED CHARACERS) into the pedo character that steals 3200 of your souls forcing you to buy debuff remover early or fucking lose
>>580380997I'd recognize that argument if it weren't for the fact that Debuff Remover is a grossly overstated item that you can use for your 4,8k spike with zero harm to your character's power.
>>580380949>bro just play shiv so you can get slowing hexed and warden caged and instantly murderedthanks for the tips my seeker broin my games there are three hexes every game and DISPEL MAGIC is irrelevant (not debuff remover anymore unc)
>>580381265Maybe have a little bit of trigger discipline with how you engage Warden instead of crying about how you get outskilled every game?Oh no, he both slowing hex, flasked and warden caged you? If there only was some sort of counterbuild that let you cleanse and heal all of that with a single button press.
>>580381186I have no idea why it gives spirit resistancelegitimately it could just have that removed and it would still be a very good item
Mo & Krill is out of fucking control, his health scaling is crazy and coupled with completely insane sustain through his other abilities + a gamebreaking ulti he needs a massive nerf immediately. Fuck this shit
mnk is 2 people while most heros are 1 person how is that shit fair nigga
>>580362262You know, a morbidly curious part of me wants to ask that goober faggot somethingIf she's still GOOD with stats like this... When is it that she's she BAD, exactly?
>>580381815You've got twice as many chances to hit a headshot
one of the funniest parts of high mmr is when people go play scrims. the match quality noticably drops because of how few people queue, and the matchmaker is forced to put phantom players in ascendant/eternus lobbies
>>580380604Drifter kinda. But if you literally only roam trophy is a must.
>>580381773Antiheal fucks him so hard it’s not even funny anon. Slowing hex too.
Colossus MnK. Trust.
Let's say I need to counter someone who has indom with curse, and my team is refusing to buy anything so I have to do it myself, is silence wave the cheapest way to proc it, so I can cast curse? I don't think the slowing hex works and anvil is too slow
>>580377906>practicing characters I have sub 10 games onThis would have been fine pre-MM update since most people including myself didn't want to ruin eternus matches by playing random heroes when casual didn't really exist however there is not a single reason to smurf currently you're probably oracle or below so why do it?
>>580382507Boo hoo nigger you have the best HP scaling in the game, you can tank it and fuck off with burrow easy
If they don't nerfMo and krillWardenWraithCelesteApolloDoormanIvyGreytalonMcginnisCalicoDrifterNext patch I'm not playing
I had a dream that they put Sinclar in Super Smash Bros., unfinished model and everything.
>>580382885i can see an argument for it with hidden mmr being in towif you were high elo before the matchmaking reset your game is full of pre-mm e6 players playing warden and lash and wraith and celeste to unlock their free elo hacks for ranked you're just asking to get your asshole rearranged learning some random heroi don't agree with doing it still but i can at least understand why he would do it
>>580384293also this is probably the worst part about playing standard now because of the wins requirement everyone is tryharding their dick off and picking meta slop in unranked and raging/afking when they lose but i'm sure this is less of a problem at lower mmr where there are actual casual players playing
hows this game so fucking unbalanced despite having almost no heroes
>>580384384Yeah I had this happen to me when I was just relearning silver with some egg first buying wraith who told me to kill myself and never play and that I was handless etcSaying this all while trying to unlock wraith was funny but at least for new players this might be less of an issue since they're all frogs in a well.
>>580341358its where the souls are stored
wish i could have a family and normal life instead of being a fat chud who plays deadlock at 4am
>>580385517join the club pal
>>580385517>raising a family in this economylolno. investing in mina barefoot skins when skins come out is a better use of your time and money
>>580384293You don't necessarily need to win while learning a new character i get that the chance of running into tryhards is lower at lower ranks but then you’d end up stomping lower elo players unless you actively hold back which is not a good character practice/limit test i am not sure how the new smurf system works but previously after 2 or 3 games it would place you near at your mains rank like low eternus or high ascendant unless u were a shitter and you’d have to play against people who aren't that good but still know how to play and you wouldn't necessarily ruin the match quality by trying out characters but this >>580377054 anon genuinely seems retarded ">go afk in fountain" yeah man when u smurf u get newbies shocker and he decides to ruin match even further by going afk i don't think he has any argument other than being a retarded ape
>>580384384Yea I don't think Yoshi and co really thought that throughI'm a returning after a few months absence and standard has never felt so tryhard before.15 wins times 3 (minimum) is pretty high, god help you if your main characters aren't part of the High And Mighty perma viable and strong roster, my character closest to those 15 wins is fucking Silver
yoshi quit valve a long time agodeadlock is under indian development for years now
>>580386731>my character closest to those 15 wins is fucking SilverTo be fair, if you manage to win consistently on silver it means you're objectively better than your lobbies full of brainless warden wraith celeste playersTreat it as training wheels. The harder it is, the better you get because goddamn you cannot risk fucking up
How exactly does vc work? Can the enemy team hear you before and after the game? Can friendlies hear you when youre dead?
>>580387683noyes
you can now search your teammates on cs2 by how many racial slurs they say in chathopefully this will be included in the next deadlock update
>>580387173I don't mean to toot my own horn but yea I seem to be good at Silver, her gun just clicks with me a lot more than most characters.I just think unranked standard matches are incredibly tryhard now compared to before the update, the skill levels seem all over the place too but that might be because I've been inactive and the system is trying to map out my mmr
Love when the enemy team is dumb as a bag of bricks and just walks into my walls. Also wish the end game stats tracked healing mitigated.Also is there some new meme strat going around our interned rushed egg, cultsac, and ricochet first items and spent the first 25m eating shit constantly while afk farming only to have the 2nd worst farm on our team
>>580388452>internedInfernus*
>game runs perfectly on high settings>hitting a Sinners causes the most extreme ghosting I’ve ever experienced>see each frame of it wiggling at the same time like I just struck some eldritch entityIs anyone else experiencing this or do I have a single setting to change
>>580388734take your meds schizo
Obscure and arcance knowledge movement "tech" (bugs) will gatekeep Deadlock from most people and not in a good way, this game needs those casuals
>>580388814No
>>580388929The only ones I would consider difficult are corner/edge boosting. Strafing, mantle boost, everything else? Pretty easy with time, and then the rest of it is map knowledge and knowing optimal routes.
>>580389265>Strafing, mantle boostWhat's that?
>>580389529Strafing is that you keep momentum better when going sideways or diagonally, jsut something to keep in mind when dashing or moving through the air a lot, like bunny hopping in source. Mantle boosting is if you hold crouch while mantling a wall you get a speed boost after you finish climbing.Once you know those things exist you slowly build them into your muscle memory, even if you're a shitter like me.
>>580388929Casuals are cattle and should not be catered too, see rivals, they bend over backwards for them and their demands only increase in intensity and retardation
desu I think deadlock is in a good spot as far as casual vs pro balancing is, with a few exceptions like graves and doorman that fundamentally will be overpowered in one but not the other due to their kit design
>>580389936Graves isn't bad in pro games though?She's a good doorman counter for exampleThe idea she's bad in high MMR is a fucking meme, sure she's not gamebreaking but she has her use cases and isn't a troll pick.
>>580388929High Skill Ceiling Low Skill Floor levels for Deadlock seem pretty balanced to me, the only thing that’s been filtering the casuals is the matchmaking causing them to have their second ever match against some 2000hr guy called MINAS DIAPER that snaps them over their knee so hard they barely get to understand the game or what they’re doing wrong
UNNERF SILVER NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>>580390105Yeah I know but any attempt to buff her for any reason would be so overwhelmingly strong in low ranks it puts them in a tough spot so if anything ever happens that does make her really suffer in the highest ranks they're kinda stuck.And Doorman is okay in low ranks but busted in high due to coordination and map movement for the team, so if the ever did need to buff him for low, he'd break high even more.Maybe calling them bad was wrong but you get what I'm saying.>>580390165Ideally open beta would solve this with a high and broad enough playerbase.
>>580389786Casuals are the blood of these kind of games and you should aim to cater to the intermediate skill level players who are the heart of the game, not the casuals or the neet/cheater classIntermediate level gives casuals something to strive for and the more serious intermediate players move on to top skill level play.But Yoshi has different ideas and only listens to a handful of streamer wannabe pros that use cheats so we're basically fucked on that regard
>>580389727>Strafing is that you keep momentum better when going sideways or diagonally, jsut something to keep in mind when dashing or moving through the air a lot, like bunny hopping in source.I think that's only if you have stamina mastery.
>>580390602Nah it’s not as pronounced but it is, and you want the habit ingrained regardless.
>>580389727Honestly, I didn't expect a real response at all, thanks.
>>580390305Okay yeah fair point, I'm just so used to graves players downplaying their bullshit and acting as if she's unplayable in high eloA lot of heroes are like what you described though, Victor isn't bad in high MMR either but he's at best mediocre and his spirit build gets neutered by good counterbuilding or just spirit burn so you're forced to run really awkward gun meme shit that ends up not feeling good because its not what the hero is aboutBut at the same time he's HITLER in low elo since newbies don't understand items
A game shouldn't be balanced around low elo people need to learn and get better instead of bitching and crying till devs buff or nerf somethingonly time its allowed is characters that are really good in every rank
>>580391103It shouldn't be balanced around top 1% elo either wraith is good in pubs badish in scrims
game needs a sassy white-haired, red-eyed woman, or it WILL fail
>Yur welcum.
>>580391418And also make her a loli.
>>580391418>>580391510and make her barefoot
>>580391103>A game shouldn't be balanced around low elo people need to learn and get better instead of bitching and crying till devs buff or nerf somethingFunny how you can replace the word "low" with "high" and it perfectly fits too considering what happened with Silver eating nerfs for several months despite her sitting comfortably at around 50% winrate and sub 50% winrate in "pro" games.Balancing exclusively for 1 skill level is retarded no matter what that skill level is
>>580390180they hated xhir because xtheim told the truth
>>580389529>StrafingQuirk of the source engine where you gain speed by holding a strafe key in the air while turning your camerahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiXXKnm6LbgProbably the best explanation of this I've seen
Buff mokrills scorn spirit ratio to 0.9
>>580391580idk why u retards keep telling yourselfs that silver was balanced she was good in high and low and wasn't fun to fight against they did nerf her a bit too much but that doesn't change the fact that she was really good the only reason why she sticks out more now after nerfs is they buffed half of the cast for no reason and added retarded effects like silence on warden cage and drifter rend while dealing 800+ damage in 10 mins or vindicta getting infinite scaling for no reason or viscous having bounce tier 3 upgrade on tier 0 genuinely march 6 update was 9/11 for this game
sand blast should curse each m1gger hit for 10 seconds and have 8 second cooldownscorn damage amp should be permanentult should also be an execute on m1ggers at 100% hp and below and give a bonus 500 max hp and permanent 200000 weapon shielding and 90% bullet resist
>balance for top level players>infernus, haze, wraith and warden are strong and central to each match until the end of timeGreat idea
>>580392274>infernus>hazetales from brick
>>580371821i would assume somost older heroes who need model updates also need kit updatesi imagine they'll do both at the same time
lmao March 6 update completely ruined this game i am looking at the patch notes right now and the stuff they buffed is exactly why this game is so unbearable currently amazing
>>580392801>March 6 update completely ruined this gameanyone who disagrees with this is a newfag.the game was genuinely great and on a fantastic path before that patchEVERY patch since then has been trying to reign this shit in + dogshit features like urn rework, koth urn, burger box urn, etc etc.
>>580392801It really was the worst update in the game and we're still recovering from it even now.
>>580392801meds. now.
Years from now we will be looking back at the march update as the worst patch ever (if the game doesn't eos by then)
>>580392801>>580393060>>580393074>>580393089Pre-march 6 was still completely fucked because of gunshit meta. This game hasn't been in a good state in ages
>>580392143>she was good in high and lowBecause her winrate wasn't abnormally high, she was balanced by every metric but eceleb headcanon>and wasn't fun to fight againstWell excuse me I didn't know that was the criteria, where are my Abrams, Paige, Graves and Victor nerfs?Silver was nerfed for one reason and one reason only, because ecelebs didn't like her and armchair theorycrafted her as S+++ tier broken, then they refused to admit they were completely wrong and have no idea what the fuck they're talking about because that would discredit them.
my FAVORITE thing about March 6th is that it was a response to >these new characters are too strong!and instead of just nerfing them. they instead cancer buffed everyone else into bullshit tier.remember when doorman had a 2% banrate?march 6th made that increase to 22% with his terribly unhealthy kidnap playstyle being buffed.remember when you could fucking heal after being afflicted?nope not anymore, march 6thremember when geist ult wouldn't fucking AOE silence your team for no reason?march 6th!remember when Haze had built in fucking ricochet on her ult?you guessed it! march 6thdouble nado cancer? march 6thone shotting djiins mark? march 6thFREE FUCKING INHIB ON A CHARGED ABILITY ON MIRAGE? march 6thgenuinely the worst patch I have ever seen
>>580392801>cut the damage by 50%>move that 50% damage to T2>double the damage by adding another feature>buff the damage again>ability is now nerfed from dealing 100% damage to instead dealing 210% damage>also we threw in infinite ammo and Mercurial Magnumcrazy how it's been like half a year of this shit>>580393060
They "balance" the game based on vibes and whatever Yoshi's discord kittens and eceleb friends like/dislike, nothing else
If yoshi knew what he was doing he would give venator 4 stamina.
>>580330674Truly frightening how you can see Indian and Korean cope posts even in dlg.
>>580392765I like this Warden redesign the most, though I wish they would make a new character based on his current placeholder.
I stopped using ranked data because even if I filter for the top 1% it’s filled with grinder retards. Standard data is unironically better even tho it’s “casual”
>>580395459Of course it is, the heavy restrictions on hero picks in ranked mean the data there is shit and only good for seeing what's metaslaves pick
>>580393471The doorman changes are something I will never forgive Yoshi for.I had over 80 games on Doorman before that fuck ass update came along.I was perfectly content with the door range he had prior, and no one gave a shit about him.This was when he was sitting at about a 48% WR.Funnily enough the patch after that one where they changed the Bell base damage did even more damage to Doorman's perception, that was genuinely a head scratcher, like Yoshi seriously thought giving doorman a base 200 damage bell at boon level 4 in lane was a good idea.
>>580393340>Well excuse me I didn't know that was the criteriaYeah man i sure did enjoy seeing her transform into wolf form get a health and ability refresh on every kill or assist and have an execute, burst, dot, disarm, and gap closer. She was like a roided Victor with actual abilities it was really fun the only reason why she didn't have a higher win rate was that half her player base was made up of retarded troons who only got into the game because of twitter fanfic slop while high elo players were still learning both how to play as her and how to play against her
man ive been losing so many games these past two days its disheartening :(
>>580396404Spam mokrill
>>580381848There's a clear agenda for some streamers where they will outright ignore emperical evidence pointing to signs a character is struggling, and parasocial sycophants like >>580362008>>580362589will just repeat whatever horseshit they put on their tierlists.These people have a direct line of communication to the devs and I have no doubt what they suggest is weighed heavily since they play at the highest level.
>>580396316Just stun her or silence her or save your burst for when she's low instead of using everything you have when she's full health, it's not that complicated.
>>580389265I really hate how Corner and Edgeboosting are not intuitively named.That being said, Edgeboosting makes sense, and can be done with relative ease, cornerboosting is unintuitive dogshit that shouldn't exist.
>"venator is good!">near or at the literal bottom of winrates>"silver is good!">near or at the literal bottom of winratesGenuinely what causes this retardation? Do you people not play the game or form your own opinions at all?Venator and Silver are both trash and you need to be a specialist with them to make them work when you can get more out of a lot of characters with 20% of the effort needed to perform at the same level with those 2
>>580397298>Silver player can't readI am talking about how good she was before the nerfs retarded nigger
uuughhhhhhnext support is cadence with GIGANTIC ixian mommy milkies uughhhhhh
>>580397583How many times has haze molested rem?
>>580397385I don't think Venator is OP per say, but the difference in pick rates to me show that at the very least one is more fun to play than the otherIf warden and wraith are gutted then Venator will have his time to shine at least.
>>580395459what exactly are you "using" this data for?
>>580397638Too many to count
>>580393060I've played the game since 2024 and I disagree. The game has been incrementally better and the player retention numbers support this.I understand wanting a content patch, because we can get even better. But I wanna be clear that people who "want to go back" aren't thinking critically about the game.
>>580397571Yes, and I told you how easy it was to counter her before the nerfs you mentally ill shitter.
>>580398148The only thing I want them to go back on is the midboss and walker changes DESU.
only mistake they've made is creating silver because her fanboys won't stfu
>>580397860>>580397583white art
>>580395893I can at least see a use for metaslave data, some idiot with 1000 games picking trash items is just net useless >>580397780Making bad teirlists and getting item pickrates
>>580398363She's getting buffed and there's nothing you can do about wraith main
Got a 6 hour ban because my fuzebox tripped ffs
>>580389529airstrafing lets you turn while in air and also gain speed while doing soit is foundational to all source engine movementit's called airstrafing because you need* to strafe (A or D) and turn in that direction. the hardest part for most people is learning to let go of W while you're in the air*technically speaking, you just need to be inputting a direction perpendicular to your current momentummantle glides are done by holding crouch while mantling. you'll slide out of the mantle with a boost of speedsuperglides are done by immediately jumping out of a mantle glide. if i'm not mistaken, you can buffer the superglide input by pressing jump any time towards the end of the mantlegives you a nice burst of speed and has a ton of usage in starting or continuing movement chains>>580391671this one's also a banger technical explanationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRqoXy-0d84
>>580399170haha 3rd world brown
>>580396316>the only reason why she didn't have a higher win rate was that half her player base was made up of retarded troons who only got into the game because of twitter fanfic slopHigh level players were not having any big success successes with her either, skill levels are both ways, if the Silver player is a high skill player then the opponents are too.Her winrate was never abnormally high and we'll never know how good she really was because Yoshi has done nothing but nerf her without letting the broader playerbase learn to play as or against her.What we DO know is that her has never at any point indicated her as anything other than balanced and even on the weaker side
>>580397385>Do you people not play the game or form your own opinions at all?isn't this kind of ironicyou're contesting people who are basing their opinion off of personal experience and assorted observation, while basing your opinion off of aggregate and perhaps unreliable statistics (venator was still getting nerfed while sitting at low public WR, same with silver)
>>580307967No, shiv and abrams guns have been successfully raped and turned into just extra slop that they need to keep around for denies/confirms in lane and in Shiv's case for the movement.Pocket has a decent shotgun though because it shoots fast and can instantly reload.
>>580399596The personal experience in question? Watching a popular streamer and assuming the consensus opinion
>>580398465
>>580321942At best you can just nerf her gun but make the scaling better so it's about the same after lane but Paige is in a fine spot otherwise. She just meshes with items really well and the only nerf you can do is make it so you can't just items or other spells whilst charging her 3 so you can't hit the hyper rape combo with 3 -> vw -> 1 -> vw lands and grabs everyone -> 3 procs just as 1 hits and they get raped by the super dps + spirit shredEither that or remove the spirit shred maybe but I'm scared that would turn into her charcter doing 0 damage late game vs spirit resist late game but maybe that's for the best.I don't think both changes should happen at once though.
>>580399596>personal experience>faggot in this thread claims Venator isn't bad because retard fake pros pick him and he kinda works sometimes if they're lucky>despite him having a terrible winrateWhat a massive projection
>>580400117the personal experience in question: playing the gameit's okay though you can buff venator, i won't complain
>>580400517lmao what projection? what would i even be projecting>person claims that venator isn't bad because of his priority in pro games>your counter to that claim is non-pro winratesuhhh
>>580400641>bt with no regenI respect it but question it’s consistency
>>580399596I know people will point out the API isn't 100% complete, but the data it does pull is accurate, there's 1.6k recorded matches for Venator at the Top 1% ranked on Statlockers API tracker. Out of those 1.6k matches, he has only won 44.4% of them. Your anecdotal personal experience is yours to cherish, but against that large of a sample size it's simply just a drop in the bucket overall.I don't know what else to say, if you're making him work and winning with him, then knock yourself out man, you do you, but you would get more value out of playing any other M1 currently. That's just how it is.
>>580400641he slides off the wall and continues ulting if that was me.
Why does ven buy bullet resist btw? Seems like with his hp the shield would be better
im gonna try the hoot build
>>580401961remember to tap fire and not hold down m1 due to the bugs.
>>580401234oh it's totally retarded. my build paths are unhinged. i think you need like 20-30% bullet lifesteal to outpace blood tribute damage as well, i think i'd be better off with burst fire or some shit. or just swift striker. but also. man. i love her....kind of a shame there's no unconditional T3 fire-rate item>>580401826battle vest is for the passive stats mainlyand it was good for lane
>>580397583>cadence>support>singerCharm or sleep, place your bets.
>>580400641>cheatsOpinion discarded
>>580402216I want Primal Beast which includes running through walls (they regenerate after 30 seconds) and a 30 second mo ult (aoe stun)
>>580402216alluring song making everyone walk towards her, like Emma's ult from Rival's
>>580402216How the hell would charm work in this game
>>580402628Charn typically is just stun + auto walk so probably that. You can balance it so it just works like dynamo or mo ult where they get slowly dragged to you and use sleep walk animations.
>>580402852AOE charm is just another dynamo ult but weaker
Item that increases resistance per instance of damage taken, to cuck the bullet hoses and dots
>>580401760the only tip i can give for landing shotgun stuns is that it's a check, not determined by physicsif you shotgun them and there's a wall (or ceiling!) in the direction you shot within 7 meters of them (8m with mystic expansion, 9m with greater), they get stunnedconceptualizing it like this helps a bit with consistency. you're not trying to shove them into a wall, you're trying line them up with a target surface within range
>>580402056???How is not been hotfixedSeems like a critical issue.
I wonder if they're ever going to add a hero that has 8 dimensional movement.
>>580403130lol
>>580403130lmao
>>580403130Because they'd rather nerf her for no reason than fix one of the most crippling bugs in the game.
>>580403236It’s not a bug, it was intentional to counter high velocity guns like bebop’s laser denying to well
>>580403156plugging in my hosas and glassing downtown new york on the first-person-only 6DoF hero
>>580402925I didn't say it had to be aoe but yeah probably.
>>580402056What bug?
Haze giving me wet dreams.
>Sand(wo)man keeps molesting you in your dreams>Not even physical so there's nothing you can do about it
>>580402925there is quite literally nothing stronger than dynamo ult.
>>580403130I have fully 100% replicated a doorman exploit and posted it to the forums in a controlled environment and it still hasn't been fixedit has been monthsthey don't fix fucking anything
>>580405560>forumsThey don't read this. You gotta be in the secret clique or let a streamer know about the bug for it to be fixed.
>>580405154depends. lash ult can displace you into his team/walker which can be more valuable
>>580403353well denying is near worthless now so they aught to revert it.
nice matchmaking!
>>580406782>rank badge meaning anythingggez
>see a video of a guy using a steering wheel >cant aim, just uses punches and abilities>somehow getting kills>still flaming his team for not helpingHow can you be doing the silly shit and still getting mad?
>>580405560The forums are worse than here man any sane person on staff avoids that shit like the plague
>>580405560The bug report section has over 100k posts you’d be better off just mailing their office a SD card with a recording and a strongly worded letter
wheres the skeleton character with a thick New Yorker accent
>>580405648>>580407572yoshi responding to my feedback about haze during her ultbot phase says otherwise
>>580408171what did he say
>>580408171Genuinely surprised to hear about that, just looked at those forums and theyre a goddamn mess of people begging to be unbanned or bitching about hackers while every 8th thread is a actual bug report
forums? nah dawg we all use discord frfr
>>580406782Their whole team could be elo landmines you never know
>>580408171prooves?
>>580408961They prob got an ai searching for actually good feedback by looking at keywords.
>>580410129>>580410129>>580410129
>>580410125please search deadlock forums for valuable feedback excluding any posts about silver
>>580408961they do (or at least did) look at the private feedback category content, always havei think they don't check the private general feedback much anymore but the specific categories they definitely do>>580408949>>580409340
>>580318089>Meaning it is more swingy since you can always make a comebackwouldn't that make it easier to carry since you can always come back in? In dota 2 if you are losing in the 1st 5 min thats it right? i don'tplay dote bty.
>>580410314>300 words essay>"Thank you for the feedback"But, hey, at least he replied.
>>580410454nah as far as yoshi replying to feedback that's pretty standard i think, not much to say to an explanation of what i feel and why i feel it other than "word, added to the thought bank"and as far as feedback getting an explicit acknowledgement, that's relatively rare. the real "into the trash it goes" is silence. or hell, you can see the views on your watched posts, the ultimate penn'ing is the thread never even being clicked onanyways, either way, a couple days after there was a patch where her ult was changed into the cone along with various other changes. and i kinda love the current iteration of haze (ult still meh but way healthier than what it was) so i feel heard. obviously i'm not the only person that submitted feedback about haze and her identity during her ultbot phase, nor was it an unpopular opinion that ultbot haze had to go, but STILLi promise it isn't cope....
>>580383487Literally what did he do wrong? Don't say Spirit Burst is broken because Dispel Magic and Indomitable exist
>>580412214he's a natural pubstomper
>>580412214I dont mind his kit but I do think he's specially made for cowards
