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World of Warcraft Classic General

Servers discussed:
>Classic ERA
>Classic Hardcore

FAQ:
>Is classic+ happening?
No, datamining and insider leaks have revealed that "Camelot" is a seasonal retail server with shop mounts, deluxe pre order packages, wow token and a cash shop and is not worth paying attention to.

>What version should I play?
Classic ERA is permanent vanilla with no resets or seasons, it is the recommended version for most people.

>What about Hardcore?
Hardcore is great, if your character dies there, you can move it to ERA and continue playing there.

>Which Faction should I pick?
Both are great, the population is split around 60/40 in favor of the Alliance.

Tools and resources:
>Talent calculator https://classicdb.ch/?talent
>look up quests and items: https://www.wowhead.com/classic
>weakauras: https://wago.io/
>Addon client: https://www.curseforge.com/download/app

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<Classic ERA PvE Cluster>

>no bots
>no GDKP
>no boost spam
>no shitskins
>no gold sellers
>no streamer grifters
>no level 60 ganking level 20s
>no 3 rogues killing you after unbooning in main city
>helpful and mature community
>can still play BGs with Ranjeet and Pablo
>all guilds use SR or other fair systems
>normal economy due to no bots and no shitskin farmers

Your excuse for not joining up?
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blizzcon hype!
I want to sit on the toilet!
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>from the people who destoyed retail, classic progression, classic anniversary, sod and som.
>THIS time it will be different, trust the plan.
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transmog is bad and c+ shouldnt have it
>cant see powerlevel of characters anymore
>clownmogs
>slutmogs
>gear visuals lose value
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Soon you will see buck broken blizzdrones pre order the deluxe hero ultimate Camelot package, ride their shop mount while playing a sky elf death knight typing "classic+ hype" in world chat as they are riding to Orgrimmar to sell a wow token.
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>>580446096
missing
>war mode
>mega servers
>layering and sharting
>gdkp ban
>player housing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Jw4rsbnpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uZi2Im2k5w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0dR_AaEstw
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classic plus will dominate the MMO genre for a thosand years.

ERAchuds and ANNIchuds can't stop seething.
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trannymog+
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>>580445961
I see your point, but I like people expressing themselves and making cool RP uniforms which are actually functional in RP PVP.
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>>580445961

Ah, it can just be a toggle. Very smart, good idea;

>>580445902

That's the solution.
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>>580446096
worse, they will do all that WHILE having retail casting animations and disney models.
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>>580446417
i dislike that people see different things on their screens but if we have to have transmog then this really is the solution
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>>580445937
>>580446639
>>580446096
>he woke up and is already samefagging
its over
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>all these filtered posts
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need a 'vun status update
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>>580445961
>>clownmogs
bis sets are already clownsuits for most specs without tmog
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trannymog is also bad because it encourages ninja looting and greedy behaviour. just use the gear you get and shut the f*ck up about it
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Cant wait for the staysafe Classic+ streams
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>1fp
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Few more sleeps to have our dreams crushed (probably)
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>>580447674
Not an issue for Era chads.
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>>580447731
era bulls keep winning
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UryabBfE38
Is this your average classic player? holy onions
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>Okay team the research shows that our seasonal audience is okay with a deluxe pre order pack, shop mounts, token, retail models and casting animations and a cash shop. Should we also add LFR/Mythic+ and LFG? and what about gay centaurs?
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>>580448096
Obsessed.
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>>580448096
Maybe he needs to stop cooking lads
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>>580448163
let blvd cook
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>>580448000
He's the most based type of gamer
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>>580448000
>holding mic in his hand
reddest red flag
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>>580448000
innocent childlike positivity sovl
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If they do housing, I hope it gives you access to all professions like how you had them in WOD through your garrison.
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>>580448096
magical wheelchairs or no buy
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Why aren't you making Ploos grift videos RIGHT NOW? You could become a millionaire
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era vs camelot gameplay comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM40cK5tu7w
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>>580448409
i dont own a mic or webcam and english is my 2.5th language
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WoD wasn't even bad.
It had a lot of things to do (at the start)
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>>580448708
also the blackhand fight was kino af
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I don't want Tranny+ I want Titanforged realms..
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>>580448814
No it fucking wasn't, not as melee on mythic. Faggots sat my DK and made me bring my hunter because melee was so bad, unless you were a rogue.
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>>580446096
hey retard slopper bingo needs equal amount of X and Y axis slots you absolute quadnigger
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total doomtranny death
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Status check on seasonal buck boys

>WoD was actually good
>a deluxe pre order package is actually good
>Transmog was actually good
>Retail client and edit mode is actually good
>Well, mythic+ could work
>a 3 day headstart for 90 dollars is actually good
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>>580449046
oink oink piggy
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Anyone expecting anything different than SoD2, why
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What are you playing in the meantime?
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>>580445678
>>no GDKP
why is that good, if no RMT?
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>>580449125
testaments, why don't they just play retail?
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Redditors crave the seasonal slop
https://old.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wc01ds/seasonbased_classic/
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Classic Plus needs THIS
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>>580449125
I would love mythic+ so I can actually enjoy a challenge but it would never happen.
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>>580449501
start doing THIS
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the same nillers are still at it i shoulda known
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>>580449430
why do you need an account for that website
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>>580449545
Challenge modes would make more sense
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>>580449501
ploos needs bimbo dorei elves and short stack vulperas
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>>580449125
>WoD was actually good
subjective
>a deluxe pre order package is actually good
any proof somebody said that
>Transmog was actually good
true
>Retail client
any proof somebody said that
>and edit mode is actually good
whats wrong with edit mode
>Well, mythic+ could work
true
>a 3 day headstart for 90 dollars is actually good
any proof somebody said that
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me and the boys riding our deluxe pre order bear mounts to the new mythic+ gay centaur dungeon to get the best transmog sets for our skyborne deathknight and ogre demon hunters, we sold some tokens to afford the best consumes

#Camelothype
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>start a hc character
>keep leveling my 30 Druid on tbc I never finished cause tbc is snoozer
>make a sod character for zoomies
idk which to do and what if ploos is playable in two weeks then they’re all just a waste of time
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>>580449125
the people waiting for camelot are just people from retail or retail from temu (tbc-mop)
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>>580449125
>kpop is actually good
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you already posted that
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>check /wpsg/
holy fuck its bad bros
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>>580450460
yet their general is much faster
how curious
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>>580450607
bestaments!
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>>580450607
>faster = better
india is better because their birthrate is better btw
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>>580450460
classic+ will kill /wpsg/, /wowg/, /xivg/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5krWlp2dh4

new second monitor slop
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>>580450674
>wowcg was actually worse in 2019 because the thread moved faster
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>>580450807
I didn't read wowcg in 2019 because I just played the game instead
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>>580450794
>vvhite chvd
i shall watch
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can't wait to play classic plus bros
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All these new youtubers and "content creators" trying to get the bag again.
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>>580448096
if it doesn't have mythic plus and arena the game has no replayability
if you want to court the toilet audience you're going to have to step up to the pl8 fatgrend
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>>580450907
does that mean youre no longer playing the game now then?
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>>580450807
>wpsg is better because they have more discordtrannys
really got me thinkin
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>>580450951
>the disneypixar stare
God it's so revolting
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>>580450949
how classic + will take over our lives
how classic + will take over mmos
how classic + wont be what you expect
how classic + will be everything you expect
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>>580450979
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>>580451112
>stare
that bitches' eyes are closed
anyways
better get used to it because its what you're getting!
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>>580450979
not him but yes that is my situation
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3 more sleeps until total doomtranny death bros
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>>580450186
why would a seasonal retail server be playable? you will get warlock tanks with retail casting animations and a 90$ deluxe pack+cash shop

why are people even paying any attention to this thing?
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>>580451286
I'll never forget them for ruining even femhumans, never expected to need a bag on their head.
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>>580451334
total doomchad vindication incoming
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we are here

https://www.twitch.tv/letsgua
https://www.twitch.tv/letsgua
https://www.twitch.tv/letsgua
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>>580451398
they were always shitty. fem night elves were the only good ones
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>>580448000
it's onions to enjoy games? he's just a guy enjoying the game
he's also the main kind of player that plays these games
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>>580451512
He's so based
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Classic Plus NEEDS THIS
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>bludworth always making the thread early so he can force his shitty op and the pasta that follows every time
kwab
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>>580451719
Face her the other way and point the arrow down.
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>>580451512
will he play classic plus
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>>580448386
tbdesu.... i enjoyed the minigames from wod with the garrison and sending your followers out. rest of it was ass but that was fun
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>>580451334
i cant wait to see how they abandon every point and go back to saying this game isnt tranny enough and we need to play on the newest brazilian pserver
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>>580451512
I only follow 3 streams on twitch and this is one of them
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>>580451398
idk i think they're pretty decent, model update definitely stole alot of the charm from the original models and at some point they put fucking abs on the nelf models but could be worse
i prefer the old models fwiw
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>>580451832
No, erabulls don't partake on retail modes.
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>>580452005
I just hate the extreme facial animations on every race, it just looks goofy.
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it's 3 days before blizzcons and we got no fucking leaks WHERE ARE THE CONTRACTORS SENDING PICS AND POSTING SHIT I KNOW YOU LITTLE FREAKS ARE OUT THERE
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>>580452080
ya idk doesn't bother me but i'm mazed to the gills too
good for making shitty reaction images if you want to be a faggot but thats about it, i play max distance zoom so i never see any of it for the most part
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>>580451356
>fighting made up scenarios in his head
>forgot to include his kpop idol
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the numodels are "ok" but the new walk/run animations and casting animations piss me off. especially the new ae type spells
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>>580452124
the deluxe pre order package was already datamined, why would you pay any attention to it after that?
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>>>/gif/31153246
>>>/gif/31153246
>>>/gif/31153246

We're all here
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>>580452503
will you apologize if it turns out to be the case?
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ERMMM THANK ME FOR THAT BUFF???
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>>580452524
can you promise us that you will stay in the niller only general once ploos comes out. to discuss your rmt with your fellow changs. it'll be over in 3 days man. you'll be set free
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>>580449827
I dont want speed runner tranny slop.
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>>580451795
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>>580452124
this is the best we've got today
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>>580453027
>niller only general
Why would I as a classic player go to a retail general?

>discuss your rmt
I play on the PvE cluster and raid in an SR environment with no hard reserves and all mats/boes are distributed to the raid to help with consume costs.
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>>580452965
tfw greater blessings were added in a patch a couple months after release
imagine a world where you had to rebuff 5min kings on 30 warriors
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>>580452858
no. i will be too busy playing the actual game like the majority of us here
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Bashing my head into the wall because there’s actually no reason to play WoW right now until we know what this shit is and when it’s coming out
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>>580453401
pvmping
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>>580453401
mod link?
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shadowlands classic soon brehs
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>>580453392
which shop mount are you gonna pick? or going with the one from the deluxe pre order pack?
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>>580453401
PVMPING
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what race should i make my priest in wotlk
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>>580453584
>wotlk
Bitch where?
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>>580453093
flip her AROUND and give us the ASS
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>>580453406
why would you expect anything but garbage from the people responsible for retail and sod?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5krWlp2dh4
It's not made for you
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>>580453093
Grok, make her turn 180 degrees.
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>>580451719
@grok show me her peeking pubic hair
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>>580453683
Yeah anon we know you’ve posted this 20 times today
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>>580453541
whichever one makes (You) seethe the hardest era chang. No GDKPs going atm i take it?
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>>580453673
the darkweb
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>>580453217
>I play on the PvE cluster and raid in an SR environment with no hard reserves and all mats/boes are distributed to the raid to help with consume costs.
great. pve is still full of RMT and boosts. just hop on and check trade out my friend. stay in era please. stay in wowcg forever nguyen
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>>580453235
Warriors were tanks only in 2004, not like current year reddit basedbrowns
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>>580453926
>No GDKPs going atm i take it?

I play on the PvE cluster and raid in an SR environment with no hard reserves and all mats/boes are distributed to the raid to help with consume costs.
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>>580454006
So you have a problem with someone getting level boosted in a dungeon but you happily buy level boosts from blizzard cash shop and will pre order the deluxe package?

make it make sense
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>SR
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>>580453740
How big will the retail baby melty be when classic+ is actually made for classic players (shocker)
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>>580454463
how would a game with a deluxe pre order package for 80 dollars be for classic players? are shop mounts and token classic now as well?
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>>580454362
I would rather see third worlders starve than give them a single penny to fuck up a game I enjoy.
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i'm honestly impressed by the nillers (you) fishing. all day 24/7. stay in era. stay in wowcg. don't play ploos. keep sending your moms disability check to the indos. they appreciate it.
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>>580454518
Yeah, wow players always eat it up, they are all the same
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>>580454362
i would gladly give the multitrillion dollar troon company money if it means an indo gook like you dies of starvation
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>>580454518
They can give retail rewards for buying it just like they did for tbc ani.
>are shop mounts classic now as well
If it's just a skin that doesn't overshadow normal mounts then yeah why not
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start posting ai edits of youtube thumbnails regarding ploos
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>shop mounts are now a good thing
>its just a skin so it doesn't matter
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>>580454195
yeah but what if they never added greater blessings then what
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>>580452635
no we're not we're in Blood Elf Boy Princesses
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>>580452635
why do asians love white cock so much?
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>>580454929
damn that thing must have the most insane FOV
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>>580454929
>kpop is now a good thing
>it's just music so it doesn't matter
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Cici needs to do a comeback and host a quick under the table gdkp with orlando and jokerd
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>>580455403
We need another Bosnian War.
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>>580455403
Jokerd just recapped the latest stuff revelations, looking very grim.

>disney graphics and animations from retail
>retail- instead of classic+
>retail client and retail engine
>deluxe pre order package
>cash shop
>shop mounts
>token
>box price/sub/microtransactions
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>>580455403
he's already back and preppin for wrath anni leveling 10x prot palas brudda
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>>580455167
its also latinas and blacks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Eo8TIOgEc
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>>580455702
What happens to classic if blizzard actually tries to push retail slop branded as a classic product?
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>>580455770
Powerful
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>>580455937
worked just fine previously, look at sod,mop,tbc,wrath,scata. Seasonal boys will slurp anything up as long as its the trend of the week and streamers tell them to play it.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wc2y7a/rumored_m_rating_for_classicreal_nudity_and_more/
reddit chad that lives with his parents with the most based take
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>>580456035
RedditGODS know what classic+ needs to be
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wc3h20/classic_needs_flying_transmog_and_twitch/
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>>580455702
>maltese manlet has a melty over things that are unconfirmed and never happened
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>>580445647
This is what keeps humans going and creates heros why cant the world see that
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Plus NEEDS to continue banning GDKP instead of just banning bots, 3rd world gold farmers, and stronger enforcement on gold selling and buying
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>>580455702
>>retail client and retail engine
So just like era?
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If classic was reskinned by another company people would call the game shit in 2026
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>>580456738
no i'm pretty sure no one has any faith in blizzard and if another company did it they'd think it's the greatest thing ever. every now and then you get riot slurpers saying that that mmo is not vaporware and it'll kill wow
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I can accept any microtransaction but I can't accept early access
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>I can accept an ass rape but not a facial
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we're in here

>>>/v/747261780
>>>/v/747261780
>>>/v/747261780
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>>580457110
>i can accept rmt and boosting in my game but i will also accept rajesh sungdeep and pablo (philipino version)
>>
its interesting that people are now accepting retail graphics, casting animations and models as long as it comes with a toggle but they fail to remember that when that update originally happened there was a toggle for it and then 6 months later it was gone forever.
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>>580456957
so you're staying on era, right?
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>>580457423
i'm off to ploos anon. i'm ready to be let down on the 1% chance i'm not
PLOOS HYPE
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Soon
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>>580457348
because a toggle means they have to now make every new model have a classic graphics version and a retail graphics version.
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https://www.twitch.tv/jhubbie
https://www.twitch.tv/jhubbie

ourgirl is live get in here coombros
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>>580451512
gonna join guagods gang when camelussy announcement reveals it as a toilet
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>>580457591
>healbot
>in 2026
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>>580457591
based coomer bro carrying the flag and giving us appropriately timed content.
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>Horde
>Ogre
>Male
>Warlock
>Destruction
>PvP Server
>Classic+

Yup, it's kino time.
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>>580457591
kino neck desu
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How is it possible that we still didn’t have a single legitimate leak?
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>>580457905
20 years of dealing with leaks and they FINALLY realized they could just intentionally leak multiple contradicting leaks to drown things out
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>>580449125
>>580449125
I wish you'd start posting actual attractive women instead of these bugs
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What the hell is classic+ tho, more grinding? more raids?
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>>580457847
>horde
>skyborne
>death knight
>necromancer
>PvP server
>Retail-

Yup, its shop mount riding time.
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>>580457348
it's interesting how retards like you misunderstand a stiven tweet and then automatically assume and doom about retail models for some reason. none of what was said by blizzard, hinted at, or datamined confirms there will be retail models or animations. you have just been groomed by a shitskin and jerome of all people to believe that blizzard cares enough about you to actually put any effort into classic whatsoever
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>>580457905
the portal never opened spinoff is the leak. it has been staring us in the face for months and has been bleedingly obvious in the last week especially
how do people not see this
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>>580457905
anon i think
>>580457979
anon has it right.
there's been a few posts on mmo champion and then that starcraft post on /v/ that seemed like they had some things right or not too far. some have bits and pieces. warcraft fables sounds close to forever.
then there's that guy on mmo champion that posted the world soul info and then you go to the wow website and /worldsoul actually literally redirects you to the main website. some thing is up
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>>580454225
Uhhuh. No one buys any gold. You're all just perfect angels.
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>>580458087
>What the hell is classic+

it doesn't exist, people call the upcoming camelot seasonal retail server "classic+" because it gives them a reason to be hopeful about the future. It is easier to live in delusion rather than reality.
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>>580454727
Based
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https://www.twitch.tv/welljeezlouise
https://www.twitch.tv/welljeezlouise

another woman playing hardcore ...
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>>580458309
baby want milk milk
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>>580458309
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>>580458206
they also did that "Plus is WC2 alt timeline" which implied the opportunity of the launch being a reworked Eastern Kingdoms and the first expansion being Kalimdor.
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>>580458309
you can tell she has large areolas.
lots of women getting into wow ready for plus. have to get your stream started early to get into the grift. wow will dominate twitch for a while
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>>580458494
how long until a girl plays WoW like this >>>/wsg/6230866
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>>580458309
Looking
hoooly!
https://www.instagram.com/welljeeezlouise
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>>580458628
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>>580458494
they're bolt-ons. she's a mixy competitor. looks better clothed.
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>>580458164
So you think this might be it?
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>>580458776
i did some extensive research, they do not appear to be bolt ons but it appears she does use a push up bra
https://www.tiktok.com/@welljeeezlouise/video/7680955650368638222
in this video you can see them sag as she's not wearing something that accentuates the cleavage.
https://www.tiktok.com/@welljeeezlouise/video/7678758005596327182
in this one you can see her nipples protrude more as she's wearing a normal bra and not a push up bra and see how they sag a bit more like in the video with the sweater.
make no mistake, she's aware of what she's doing with the push up bra's but i do not believe theyre bolt ons.
verdict: 80% certainty
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>>580457847
for me, its gonna have to be murloc shaman
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>>580458954

Getting Deja Vu at the 'showing players stopping the Dark Portal from opening'.
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>>580458954
even if 5% of that is real its never worth even trying.
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>>580445937
It's diffy time.
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ill be playing tauren rapist in plus
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>>580459343
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>>580458954
>2 new races, both are reskinned blood elves
>battlepass
>3 days early access epic edition
>multiple raid difficulties

I want to die but this all seems pretty believable and not over ambitious like a lot of the other leaks.
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It's gonna be so fun to watch Blizzcon while in wowg and wowcg, with my /v/ros...
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for some reason when I read that Chromie thing at the Dark Portal I had deja vu about seeing a video before where Chromie is reporting at the Dark Portal and then it is comically stopped by the players. And they have that awkward "Huh? That's it!?" energy.

A faint memory appeared of it.
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>>580459121
you're clearly not a boob expert. you need to study more.
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>>580459857
>>580459243
somebody posted a webm about this within the last week (because I've only been back for about a week) and people thought it was AI. somebody should try to dig it up from the archive.
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>>580459693
My only hope for this shitshow is eternal fresh servers every year for the first 3 games with each receiving an era home.

I will pay attention to the Classic+/camelot/wow2 announcements but I will refuse to play if it looks like retail lite.
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>>580459897
anon i've see more tits than you've forgotten. begone. this woman does not have bolt-ons but does use a push up bra
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>>580459857
>>580459243
You're probably thinking of this fan vid at 5m30s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDqHgrViTyI
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>>580455702
>disney graphics and animations from retail
why do people keep repeating this meme?
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>>580460026
I did not see that webm.

>>580460202
I did not see this video.
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>classic+ isnt being made for you
why bother?
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>>580460573
let the retail boys have their shop mount thing, we got classic.
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will classic+ have blue sluts that are for you?
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>>580460654
>we got classic
Grim
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>>580460026
I found this webm like 6 threads ago. Was this it?
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What's the latest testaments?
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>>580461550

>>580455702
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>>580455702
Well this lines up with >>580458954
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new leaks are in
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>>580460710
No.

It was just a Deja Vu. We were all watching it and it was a big event.
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>>580462043
what was the sod announcement?
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>>580445647
https://wowprivateservers.vercel.app/#servers
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>Blizzcon starts
>Fall of the Lich King cinematic starts playing
>Father...is it over?
>At long last, no king rules forever my son
>Arthas' eyes shut while screen fades to black
>Were taken back in time
>Arthas awakes in his bedroom to Terenas telling him to get up
>It was all a dream
>WOW 2 CAMELOT appears
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Anyone else fucking hyped for classic +?
I think I might go horde, first time since 2019 classic. Gonna be an undead rogue and be an absolute nigger to all the high elf players
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>>580454463
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2669801-quot-World-of-Warcraft-2-quot-
I'd love for this to be true but it's undoubtedly a gay larp
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era andies finally asleep? post what your favorite spec needs to be good. tbc style talents and abilities? or something completely brand new?
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>>580462423
i will be doing the same but as goblin
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>>580462149
I don't know. Don't think I saw it.

Well, we'll see at Blizzcon, it's just in a few days.
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>>580462423
>Anyone else fucking hyped for classic +?

which part about a deluxe pre order package, shop mounts, cash shop, microtransactions, disney models, retail casting animations and LFR excites you the most?
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>>580462604
hell yeah, I hope they give goblins new racials
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>>580462576
disc needs that thing where you also get pi when you cast pi on a friend
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>>580462490
I'm almost positive the lore will involve some xalatah timeywimey bullshit so they can still shill retail
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>female
>undead
>paladin
kino time
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Lets add a reborn system that allows you to start the same character from level 1 and on the first reborn you get the silver dragon portrait and on the 2nd reborn you get the golden elite portrait.
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>>580462742
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>>580462367
AHAHAHA
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>>580463181
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....
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>>580464016
>he doesn’t know
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>>580462604
>>580462764
goblino en el classico?
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>>580463181
>shop boosted oggre demonhunter

kino time
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2UaCZl3cZ0

new parasocial
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>>580463383
that would be a good hardcore feature. and maybe every time you rebirth you get a free bank slot unlocked.
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>>580462576
Give me the balance druid from SOD and I'd be loving life
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>>580464364
my favorite. she even loves diablo 2.
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all classic+ should be is paladin taunt and maybe some more quests and that's it really also mana regeneration through talents maybe so prot doesnt run out of mana and crusader strike why does warrior get all the buttons paladins need avenging wrath also divine storm for aoe haha its our time to be top dps and have a gap closer with divine steed (make it give freedom too) and exorcism usable on all targets like in wrath and classic is saved but not until warriors are nerfed fuck warriors this is NOT the game for them let them stay on era where there is gdkp no gdp in classic= ok
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i will be purchasing every boost, mtx, deluxe edition, mount, and every wow token available to make sure you indojeets seethe and hang yourselves because you cannot handle starving to death after eating your last meal of pagpag because you lost your job at g2g selling gold to other era chinks.
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>>580464364
ew
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>she thinks that third worlders won't just instantly move to the retail seasonal server where they can play for free through the wow token
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>>580464979
>implying thirdies have the balls to roll on a pvp server
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>>580463701
it was all datamined sis, we even know what the exact shop mount you get from the pre order deluxe pack
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>>580464364
why do retail trannys hate her so much
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>>580465272
>does_he_know.png
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durnholde keep is the orc starting zone in ploos
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>>580465438
she's so insufferable. she's right about the disneyfication of wow but holy hell what a foid.
>i'm a woman so listen to me when i talk about it being edgier and grimdark and cool :)))
it's pandering. after her video blew up she started charging for content
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>>580465995
I've heard the speculation that Classic+ is a prequel.
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>>580466771
lmao
if even a single one of the "stuff people are gonna hate" is true i won't even bother. but of course it's going to be hugely popular and successful thanks to streamers
>major class favoritism
you just know that trannydin, shaman and druid are going to be hilariously busted ala sod. what a joke
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>>580466771
seasonal boys will slurp it up.
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idgaf about any of the c+ or tbc-wrath bs
i'd resub in a heartbeat for a fresh era server thougheverbeit
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>>580466408
Her points are valid but since she is a woman she is insufferable to listen to
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>>580467150
If I see a woman on youtube talking about something I like and care about I picrel
I must have hundreds blocked by now. Why is there always some painted slut trying to use my hobbies to gain attention?
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>>580466408
>her points
lol women just copy what everone else is saying and then say it themselves like it's their take.
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>>580465886
they will leave their instances eventually, and i will be there.
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>>580467150
no you completely misunderstood, didn't watch her videos, or are mesmerized by her.
if she made points to just stand for what they are great. she pulls out the "as a woman!" all the time. but tries to make it grimdark or edgy.
another russian grifter but this time woman flavor
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Good morning /wowcg/, how are we coping today?

Any good leaks since yesterday?
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>>580468668

>>580455702
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>>580468668
nothing yet, still waiting. in 12 hours they should be making much more progress on the blizzcon stage itself so some third party contractors or other employees might start leaking shit. still waiting
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I don't know how to kill time until blizzcon bros
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>>580465404
Nope, you made it all up
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>>580469049
NTA. It's very annoying, usually we have leaks by now
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>>580469497
it's going to be so fun to watch it with the /v/ros here and at /wowg/. Comfy times.
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>>580469497
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2401256
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15007172
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>>580469708
i really don't know how they haven't had ANY leaks about ANY games so far. is this a good sign at least, blizzard being able to shut the fuck up and keep it close to their chest.
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>>580469949
>nazir khan's great indian adventure
>generic k-drama
no thanks
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>>580468304
>didn't watch her videos
I got halfway through her disnification video before I had to close it due to how painful it was to listen to
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>>580470139
>i really don't know how they haven't had ANY leaks about ANY

Everything was leaked already thoughever:

>>580466771
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>>580470214
>she says while playing a game made by a dei troon group of rainbow warriors.
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>>580470253
name is forever
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2669761-World-of-Warcraft-Forever/page2
this one is the most likely one, as they called out the worldsoul name. and then the url started being redirected to the main wow page.
as seen here
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/worldsoul
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>>580470578
its so bad it could be real
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>>580466771
those first 3 lines are insanely cringe. who unironically writes this shit?
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>>580464364
lmao she's roasting pilav in this one.
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>>580469497
https://youtu.be/gsSWz6sfu-U
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>>580470578
worldsoul is retail shit that isn't news it's 3 years old.
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>>580470550
i think you forgot to include your usual laughing kpop idol image, would you like to try that again seo-jun?
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>>580471389
Will the pre order deluxe pack come with gender pronouns ?
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Gonna diapey game so hard for ploos
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>>580471389
>classic is all white people
ploos is going to be kino bros
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>>580471524
i had sex with a korean girl recently it was great. she was pretty tall. didn't let me coom in her or give me head because she said that's for the 2nd date. no head no 2nd date sorry.

I will not buy your gold, I will not buy your boosts, I will not play in Era with the thirdies
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>>580471887
only the guy on the right would be considered white outside of the US.
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>>580471887
>from the people who destoyed retail, classic progression, classic anniversary, sod and som.
>THIS time it will be different, trust the plan.
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>>580470578
Nothing has conclusively leaked yet.
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soon
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>>580472150
not yet. hopefully tomorrow. i very much seriously doubt we get no leaks.
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>>580471524
>posts picture of a sanfran pride parade from 2023 that has no relation to classic wow devs and an intentionally unambigious context
wow you sure showed me ji-woo
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>>580472150
pre order package with the bear mount was datamined, what else do you need to confirm its dog shit?
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>>580465404
show it then
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>>580472609
>jeet doesnt understand how datamining works
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>>580472296
don't forget we're gonna have a 3 day early access head start on you retarded poorfags ;^)
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>this is actually a good thing!
>I want a pre order package
>I want a shop bear mount and a sky elf transmog set
>oh the barbie house stuff is amazing!

bolumes and testaments all around for the seasonal buck boys
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>>580472863
kek, they never learn. Do they?
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>>580466771
tauren paladins is an awful concept
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>>580472763
I don't play seasonal retail servers. The only 3 day early access you have is for riding your shop mount.
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>>580472863
>>580472982
>>580473107

post done 90 seconds right after each other. mr kim... you must samefag less obviously. also the korean girl i banged was also last named kim lmfao
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>>580472296
that's slander, the only part of that I'm going to do is play a sky elf death knight...
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>>580472863
They did not like this one lol. Seasonal buck boys prefer to live in delusion.
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>>580472863
this is just words from some retard on twitter. can you provide any legitimate leaks?
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>>580472863
>plooooos needs trannymog and player-housing and limited edition mounts (but not ones tied to actually doing anything!)

There will be troons ITT who unironically want these things

Count me out.
You can catch me on era running Naxx GDKPs with the thirdies.
I'd rather play with an indo mage trying to feed his family than a troon playing dollies.
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>>580472863
you seem to have a lot of trouble reading, does this help?
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>>580473351
>main dataminer of the biggest wow website
>some random retard

testaments
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>>580473478
ill take that as a no then
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>>580473390
Remember that seasonal buck boys bought a deluxe pre order pack for 79.99$ + tip five or six times now? maybe even more. Hard to keep track of their seasons and all the shop items they got. They like level boosts and shop mounts, its a different audience to the real classic players.

They will slurp it up happily.
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>>580473616
>>580473478
>>580473390
No Kim, Chang, Nguyen, Rajesh, Amir. I will not pay for your boosts, join your GDKP's, or RMT with you. I wish you the best and may Era pay for your families meals for the rest of time. I will be playing ploos.
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>>580461550
Testament status has evolved over the course of the last few days in an interesting way. As the datamines and leaks came in about the pre order deluxe packages, micro transactions, shop mounts and retail models the seasonal retail boys changed their position from:

>camelot is classic+! we take vanilla and add a few things to make it a complete game.

to

>Actually a deluxe pre order package is good because x
>Actually I like shop mounts
>Battle pass is actually a good thing
>3 day early access is actually what I want
>Mythic+ would actually fit nicely
>WoD was actually a good expansion
>What do you mean transmog is bad?

The psychology is super fascinating.
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>>580473987
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>>580461550
>retail mentioned 44 times and the thread is only 6 hours old
and the worst part? its mainly one person doing it
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>>580473987
As long it doesn't have flying I will be happy :)
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>>580472701
They never can into anything
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Am I griefing if I roll a nelf priest because I like stars and I think dwarf clothies look stupid? Am I gonna get in raids?
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imagine hating on dolly dressup
oh that troon would outperform you to just to rub salt into the wound
LMFAO
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>>580473987
Sure, just keep making shit up. Eventually you might convince someone.
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>>580474394
which version?
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>>580474452
Era
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>>580474498
You can play any race. Dwarf only matters on a fresh server in phase 1 with low gear.
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>>580474498
nah. play what you like. the content is a joke and gets steamrolled anyway. unless you're into pvp or something i wouldn't worry too much about it, its not a big deal
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>>580474694
>>580474768
Great! Thanks for the answers
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>AI slop gave us WoW 2 after almost 23 years
apologize
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByTravunlSI
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>>580451512
>watching the guaking will get me a free hoj and sgc the moment I hit 60
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>>580475364
it looks worse though
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>>580474909
You may get memed for not being dwarf for fear ward. So just be prepared for that. Starsharts isn't good.
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>>580475732
It's era and plus is coming. It didn't matter then and it really doesn't matter now.
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what did blizzard mean by this?
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>>580475975
How is a retail server relevant to the discussion of priest racials in classic wow.
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>>580475364
>ghosting around literally fucking everything
It looks like shit
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this thread is filled with samefagging therefore its spiritually dead
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NksxgFq6eAg
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had the fat brown paladin larper on in the background because everybody I normally watch at this time is offline tonight, and he's filming a video about "what c+ needs to be successful" and he's basically listing everything from this post, so this is basically confirmed now, because he's obviously making this video so that he can point to it like WOAH DOOD LOOK THEY DID EVERYTHING I WANTED!
>>580458954
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>>580477039
the fat mexican was flown to blizzard HQ to check the game out so its pretty obvious.

Looking really grim.
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>>580476145
Lmao you never give up, do you?
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>>580477296
Meh, I won't believe it until I see it. We still haven't gotten anything conclusive yet.
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>>580477393
The fight for truth and justice is never over.
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>>580477483
Lmfao truth and justice to a lie you've been peddling for months?
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>>580477437
>We still haven't gotten anything conclusive yet.

Just the pre order deluxe hero ultimate package and its bear mount together with the skyborne transmog sets.
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>>580477393
he usually ends his sweatshop shift and goes to bed in about an hour or two
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>>580477550
Let's see they're real. What proof do you have that they're plus and not retail?
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>>580477542
you're going to look might silly in a few days, lilgup.
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>>580477708
Mighty*
And there's always a chance, but I don't think so. Classic Plus has a potential audience of tens of millions of former players and others who want to see what the fuss is about. Why would they kneecap themselves and leave billions on the table when they don't have to?
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>>580477965
>Why would they kneecap themselves and leave billions on the table when they don't have to?
because the office is full of incompetents, its really that simple
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>>580477965
1) if they knew how to make a good product, they would have done so at some point in the last 19 years.

2) actiblizz greed would automatically destroy any good game with shop items, deluxe packs and microtransactions.

3) the big boys at the top would never allow something to overtake retail

for these 3 reasons classic+ will and can't ever happen.
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>>580477693
*say
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>>580478264
Outside of Phase 3, SOD was excellent. I'm fairly hopeful.

Probably, but that's literally every online game now so who cares?

Why wouldn't they? The audiences are completely different and basically don't compete with one another. It's two slices of a massive pie.
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>>580478060
SOD was excellent and was a very low budget affair. Plus will have a budget and more development time.
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>>580473987
>SOD was excellent

add it to the list
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>>580478264
and yet here you are, still paying and playing the same bad product that you hate, the same one they've destroyed with mtx
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i would have enjoyed sod more if they didnt timegate everything.

put in my vacation days just to get hardstuck at 20 for a month
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>>580478525
1) sod was dog shit garbage, a silly seasonal server where they took vanilla and made it retail

2) I don't have any shop items, deluxe packages or microtransactions on classic era or hardcore?

3) this is common mistake that people make, the people who play seasonal servers are mostly from retail. The people who enjoy classic are on era or hc and do not engage with seasonal retail servers.
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>>580478687
I don't play seasonal retail servers though?
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>>580478718
retail retail is bad because i dont know anything thats happened in the last 20 years of expansions that ultimately dont matter
classic retail is good because its grounded in azeroth only and not outerspace
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>>580478718
1) sod was an experiment that wasn't designed for cryboomers like you
2) you have g2g instead
3) wow has always been a seasonal theme park mmo since day 1. nobody wants to stay in your thirdie solved museum, as is evident by the player numbers and active raiders
>>580478808
okay? stay on era then? what's the problem?
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>>580478593
>seasons are good now

add it to the list
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>>580479309
there is no problem? the seasonal buck boys are the only ones with a problem? why are retail players coming to the classic general to talk about their deluxe barbie package game?
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If you wanna pre order deluxe ultimate camelot hero super packages, ride your shop mount, collect barbie dresses and run a gay centaur dungeon as a skyborne deathknight, warlock tank and a mage healer you are more than welcome to. No one here gives a single fuck. Just keep the discussion in your own retail general there is no reason to come here and talk about it.
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>>580479547
make your own era thread
seasonal is CLASSIC
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>>580479436
>>580478593

>>580473987
seasonal is classic, add it to the list.
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>>580479679
please stop posting this erotic webm
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>>580479679
>cryboomer gets left behind and abandoned and has a melty over things that only happened in his head to cope with it
we know, you're 80% of the posts in this thread
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i hope it comes out late october then i can finish lvling this rogue on whitemane and play fire emblem :3
also remove horde vs alliance chat restrictions let us call each other slurs
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>>580479679
I think it comes down to them not accepting mentally that they are the same as retail players. In their mind they see themselves as better than toilets as a coping mechanism even though they eat the same exact diarrhea shit that blizzard poops out.
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>>580479896
>cryboomer gets left behind

interesting projection considering seasonal players are the exact ones who are afraid of being left behind and not being together with the herd.

Era bulls do whatever they want while the seasonal sheep are lead to slaughter.
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Two days until you can pre order your hero ultimate package and start planning which barbie outfit goes best with the bear mount.
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https://streamable.com/phmm9k
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>ITS RETAIL!!
yes schizo, it is, and you're still going to play it
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>>580481048
this guy was in the #1 speedrunning guild on classic, private server veteran, over 50 freshes under his belt

but he still cant do simple mechanics that are standard in 5 man leveling dungeons in retail
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classic plus chads run this general.
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>>580481678
only if you can hang around for 16 hours a day and samefag yourself, relentlessly, like the erapiggy
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>>580481461
uhmm actually dali hates FRESH and played on kronos for years before classic
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>>580481231
never have never will
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when did you finally accept that classic+ is NOT made for you?
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>>580485152
2007
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>>580485152
we should all watch these daily to be reminded
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now that classic(era,anni,classic) is coming to an end. did you enjoy the journey anons
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>>580477628
he's definitely a west coast korean based on posting times and habits. which makes it all the sweeter i fucked some korean girl he knows.

my ploos gamers, how are we feeling? i'm excited for some leaks that should be coming soon
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>hypedrones have convinced themselves that C+ is now going to be WoW2
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total

doomtranny

death
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>>580485412
>XARGAWD
our one true classic andy that isn't shit at the game. the live showcase at blizzcon should be fun
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>>580485572
Get your udders ready for milking faggots
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Retail and Classic+ will have its own separate new content releases going forward because Blizzard doesn't want you to cancel your sub. Normally players will play retail when there is new content but after a couple months they unsub until the next big patch. Classic+ will be the bridge in between so more players will just keep their sub going indefinitely. Also I expect Classic+ to have a lot of modern elements to attract as many retail players as possible.
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>>580486553
that's why it's called Warcraft Forever, you'll be subscribed forever
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>>580485467
Expecting the worst, but we won't know for another 2 days so no point dooming until then. I'll get a few months of fun out of it with guildmates regardless and if it's shit I'll just go back to the backlog and gta6.
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lol sissies whytf is the thread pic a retail avatar troon
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>>580487325
classic+ graphics
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGCFk5LqnWg

WOW 2 CAMELOT IS HERE
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plusoids
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can't wait to bring 25 ret paladins to raid bros.
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>>580488459
but raids are going to be 10man
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>>580487940
there's no way people actually like this, right? that looks awful
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>>580488731
i dont believe anyone actually does, no
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HOLY SHIT ANOTHER AI FUCKASS VIDEO FROM
>the most irrelevant, unfunny, retard boomer classic youtuber
I AM SHITTING MY PANTALOONS AS WE SPEAK
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>>580488959
who
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>>580485461
retail servers have never impacted classic.
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>>580486553
yeap retail and retail from temu will work together in tandem just as you described.
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So out of all the WoW streamers Esfand wasn't invited to Blizzcon by Blizzard. But Esfand was part of the NDA'd group. Did he leak something he shouldn't have and that's why they didn't invite him?
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>>580487940
looks like fecal matter smudging over my screen
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>>580490439
he claims they didnt invite them because he was critical to the devs in person about it

apparently he has also told people on his VIP discord but I haven't seen anything concrete
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The greatest thing about possibly getting a new race is that you will know how good the game will be within 5 minutes. If the new race looks like it has bad animations and the starting zone has retail style quests that don't feel vanilla at all with modern day millennial woman writing then we know we can safely jump ship before sinking 50 hours into it.
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>>580490735
Being critical doesn't get you blacklisted. Means he got caught leaking.
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>>580490785
I doubt they'll try anything crazy simply because it's too much work. Maybe something like thalassian highlands from TWoW but with fully AI generated modern day writing
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Paying a monthly sub for a seasonal game is the most cucked thing I can think of.

Just look at your SoD characters. Completely abandoned.
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yellowfeverbros we are so early... she could be new stellsia!

https://www.twitch.tv/m0istie
https://www.twitch.tv/m0istie
https://www.twitch.tv/m0istie
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How should Blizzard deal with long term plans? Like for instance, let's say they add a quest to save Varian Wrynn from Alcaz Island and bring him back to Stormwind. Do they use phasing technology to change those player's state of stormwind so they see Varian instead of Anduin? If not, at what point in the game's life do they change the world to reflect it? What happens to the people who haven't done the quest, will they remove the quest? Should they remove the quest and add a new quest into the area? Or do we leave Varian rotting in a cell for years and years and never get a quest to save him?

And what about events like opening of the AQ gates? Those events are cool, but it's not "evergreen" and not everyone will experience it.
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why are these threads so slow compared to /wpsg/
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>>580491814
we dont use discord here
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>>580491814
They have an actual product.
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>>580491814
stable T levels and no estrogen spikes due to hormone pills abuse
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>>580491814
not enough avatarfagging for you?
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>>580492373
yeah the thread just feels empty without 500 posts about the latest discord break up
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What if classic+ is bad
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>>580491814
Did you read the posts there? It's couple of schizos going at each other's throats
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>>580492549
i guess ill do something else just like every time they make a bad xpac
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>>580492549
it will be the best game ever
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>>580492549
there's thousands of other good games to play, nothing wrong with taking a break from wow
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so why dont the forsaken speak common?
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>>580493451
It's because some or most don't have fully functioning vocal chords or are even jaws. Gutterspeak is probably growling, moaning, and slurred common
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>>580493625
and yet they are capable of speaking perfect orcish
horde really is low iq
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>>580494401
Yeah it's mostly done for gameplay, to have no talking between horde and alliance. Ideally you would be able to learn other languages and shift reputation with most factions, though some would be locked out for lore reasons depending on your race
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>>580493625
so why can't i understand it
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>>580493451
>>580494710
I think I remember reading somewhere that in the original beta they could speak and understand common and orcish.
Cross faction chatter was extremely toxic so they removed it for release
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onlyfangs wouldve been fun if not for soda
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I love streamers so much bros, how much are you saving to donate them for classic+ reveal reactions?
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>classic+ expansion announced at blizzcon
>Sneed's Crusade
holy frick
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can i move from HC to a pvp realm
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>>580445678
what makes ove not have bots and farmers?
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>>580497530
pve*
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>>580491258
you really think blizzard devs wouldn't blacklist him if he went over the line (according to them) with his feedback?
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Aren’t you sick of this?
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>>580499057
of what? wow? i take breaks so it doesnt really wear me down
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You wouldn't get it.
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>>580499456
Farming 20 year old raids that take 0 skill to clear to pay the bills is for brown people. White WoW players are busy progressing mythic The Venomous Abyss on retail
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>>580499741
Sir this isn't the retoilet general, that's the next door down. You can tell from the smell and fursuits
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>>580499741
I'm supposed to be getting paid?
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>>580491258
Happens all the time to video game review outlets all the time.
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>yo chat this is lowkey kinda fire actually
TRUE
I'm preordering the sloppa edition
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>>580462423
Gnome rogue here.
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>>580490439
kek, they either didn't buff ret paladin or being an OTK member, he thought he was above the rules and leaked.
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So why were Gnomes allowed to be warriors but Tauren aren't allowed to be rogues huh?
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if c+ is retail slop this shit is going to be a disaster. they're just going to split the playerbase even more
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>>580501391
shut the fuck up furfag, go play an uwupera on retoilet
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>>580501471
split how? people that dont want retail slop will stay on era/anni. parasocial losers will play plus for a month and then quit
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>>580478264
retail is pretty insignificant compared to what it was. when classic launched there were more classic players than retail players. of course that didn't last, but it proves that there's a large audience of people interested in wow but not interested in retail.
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>>580501578
All I'm saying is gnomes shouldn't be warriors.
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>>580492568
sounds like this general
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>>580501651
Nah fem gnome warriors with pigtails are based, especially when they kill some dirty noshoes. Male gnomes are only for psychopaths tho
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>>580481048
thank you. I have been missing this since my return to this thread.
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Two biggest issues people have with transmog
>makes gear feel less special when low levels are wandering around transmogged up
>makes gear feel less special when someone goes and solos content you did 2 years ago when it was progression and now they have some cool gear they can wear (or something, this point never mattered to me but people are retarded I guess)

So why are people against transmog in Classic+ where neither of these will have any effect?
If transmog is
>character bound instead of account bound
>level capped like it was back in the day so if a raid piece dropped you had to be that level to wear it
Then what is the issue? If Blizzard releases a new tier 3 level raid, and the bis is now a Clownsuit mismatch of t3 and this new set of armor, why shouldn't that person be able to transmog full t3 so they don't look stupid? They played Naxx, they earned the gear, they aren't a level 1 running around in tier armor like a badass, they just don't want to look like a mismatched autist that can't dress himself.
>inb4 "muh pvp, i NEED to see what exact gear he has on at all times UGH"
Then let's get rid of Dartol's Rod, Deviate Fish, halloween wands, and every other item that changes your character appearance. Hell let's remove druid forms too.
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>>580502163
Also couldn't they just lock transmog behind being level 60 and having done some large quest or gold sink for it? Why would it be a problem if level 60s, who have done the raids and collected the loot, wear transmog? Seriously, I see literally no issue with it at all.
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>>580490439
>So out of all the WoW streamers Esfand wasn't invited to Blizzcon by Blizzard
sauce? and sauce that other streamers are invited?
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>>580502163
GO PLAY RETAIL YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT
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>>580491479
that's literally the only justification of paying a sub though? imagine paying a sub for something that doesn't change.
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The most hype thing about Classic+ is the fact that it has a box cost. That tells me Blizzard thinks this is a product that is game warping enough to deserve a box cost. I will be sad if we have to wait 2 more years to play this, but it will be exciting if they do plan to work on it even more than they already have been.

There is no way in hell they are going to give us a box cost for something as small a scope as SoD or TWoW. I imagine the world is going to be very different (at least in terms of quests and items, if not how the zones look as well).
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>>580491482
>fat aussie bug
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>>580491814
our schizo doesn't suffer from AGP.
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>>580492549
then I won't resubscribe and I'll stop posting here, basically back to what I was doing last week but with Valheim 1.0 in my game rotation.
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>>580493451
so people couldn't flame each other in pvp. they did at one point, some of the original developers talk about it.
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>>580502163
1. Clown suits are soul
2. Out in the world I want to be able to tell without inspecting how geared somebody is. Especially for deciding whether I should get into wpvp with somebody
3.Transmog just sucks for immersion purposes. You wanna rp, then wear the rp gear it still exists. I don't wanna fight people in their fucking mario cosplay while they are actually stacked on raid epics
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>>580502413
it is a gold sink. it costs gold to change, and the cost goes up as your level goes up.
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If + has transmog then it doesn't have me.
Go play retail holy shit. Transmog dilutes the meaning of your items.
Transmoggies get out and go to retail
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>le transmog is le bad

k retard
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>>580503680
Yes it is. Thanks for agreeing
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whats better for a rogue in a pvp server
daggers or swords
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>>580503680
Opinions you can smell
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>>580503552
then how will i wear shadoweave on my nelf warrior
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>TRANSmog
how did blizzard know
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>>580502163
>makes gear feel less special when low levels are wandering around transmogged up
Turtle fixed this by using a character bound currency so that you can't tmog that easily early on but as you play more it becomes way cheaper as you farm it semi-automatically just by doing high level dungeons
>makes gear feel less special when someone goes and solos content you did 2 years ago when it was progression and now they have some cool gear they can wear (or something, this point never mattered to me but people are retarded I guess)
This never happens in practice either because you replace gear often enough while leveling (with said currency)
>>580503027
Most retarded mindset to have desu but just having a way to turn it off would suffice for your kind
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>>580504247
>turtle fixed
so go play turtle
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>>580499981
yes saar, we all play wow to sell gold what timeline are you on? we are all smelly venezuelans
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>>580503801
daggers seem better
unless you mean tbc then daggers seem worse
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>>580504247
>Most retarded mindset to have
Nice counter argument bud. Here's mine.
You are gay
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>>580504387
It's about bringing ideas to the poor retail/classic brain that knows nothing better
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this so much THIS
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>>580504573
It's not a counter argument, i'm just not gonna address it, a toggle is good enough for you
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>>580504593
actually its cuz turtle died like a bitch
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>>580504754
I accept your concession then.
Go back to retail
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turtle deserved it for trying to remake the game on unreal
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>>580449501
damn right
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>>580504812
There's enough turtle clones to keep playing, it's not like what's being said here has any weight on what Blizzard decisions
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>>580504997
kys
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>>580503552
ok have fun on era.
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did sod have trannymog?
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I wouldn't be surprised if this does take place in retail. The #1 reason why people don't want to play retail today is because there's 20+ years of shit already in it. Imagine trying to walk into a thoroughly lived in world as a new player. People have millions of gold lying around, cool unobtainable shit that you missed out on... there's just 0 reason.
My guess is this upcoming game is being used as a fresh start for people who have played retail in the past but also like slower gameplay who don't really wanna wade through all of the shit that doesn't matter anymore from previous expansions. It's basically FRESH but for retail.
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>>580505613
no. sod was a feature test.
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sodapopping declares the end of onlyfangs
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>>580491258
If he got caught leaking with a signed NDA, they'd close all of his WOW accounts. AFAIK, he's still able to login and play WOW, even attend Blizzcon.
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>>580505863
hmm. yep, no trannymogs for plus then
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>>580506046
The blizz employees probably just thought he smelled bad and didn't wanna have to see him in person again
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ok
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>>580503027
Pathetic low skilled ganker
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>>580506257
I wouldn't charge at somebody near a cliff if I could see they had a mind control hat on
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>>580504215
more like
>"retail- isn't made for you"
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>>580504997
give her pubes
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>>580506360
Why not?
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>>580506556
Because its a coinflip on whether I have to pay extra repairs costs from the fall, and I'll likely have to res at the spirit healer, depending on the cliff.
Not worth the time and money
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Classic Plus needs THIS
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>>580506928
Gubber Blump achieved AGI?
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1 plus player can clog 10000 toilets
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>>580507283
what were they thinking with this
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>>580506687
So basically you are a low skilled gankers who only take fights you have no chance of losing
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>>580456024
I don't play classic seasonally. I played the 2019 vanilla classic, tbcc, wotlkc, catac and mopc and likely won't play them again. Once were done with the legion I'll jump into retail. Classic+ is also an option. Then again perhaps your definition of "seasonal" is different and you're clamoring for the era servers, you see wotlkc as "season on wotlk" but mine is doing the same content over again fresh, basically anniversary as we already did the tbc in 2021.
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>Classic Plus is not made for you
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>>580508985
What happened to her? el atrocidad...
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>>580505739
so ploos is just retail overhaul? I would take it
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>Ploos is being developed by these people
It's over
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>mfw ploos is in fact made for us (classic players)
Seasonal/retailchuds will be coping come Blizzcon.
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>wow retail is blizzard's biggest cash cow by a huge margin
>blizzard corpojews allow them to fracture their retail playerbase without providing similar mtx options

not gonna happen. sorry toilets. c+ is for the chvds.
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why doesn't ironforge.pro show HC servers?
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>>580501471
SoD was already retail lite. Retards never learn.
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>>580509727
Meanwhile SoD was a smashing success until they fucked it. Cope and seethe, you retailbucks are funding our ploos.
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>>580506159
that's not how that works.
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>>580508051
>Run at enemy player at cliff
>Get mind controlled and forced to jump to my death
>Hurrr you only take fights you have no chance of losing!
Sounds like you are salty about a little bit of wpvp if anything
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>>580509727
>Fracture the retail playerbase
It's not though. It's to bring people who haven't played retail in years back into the fold. The only way it gets fractured is if retail players quit current retail en masse to go play whatever this new game is.
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My highest upvoted r*ddit post is calling out third worlders. I guess the 3rd world fatigue really is real.
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>>580509727
ploos aka wow 2 , is being developed to bring new players into the game since retoilet is is extremely bad for new players.
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now more than ever we need a no changes fresh.
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>Not a single fat swarthy grifter
Blizzard is healing ...
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>actually, you aren't a game design expert, and I am an expert in people who aren't game design experts
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HC is dead
and it can't revive because it's HC
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>>580510505
PandaTV, his whole dome is filled with tattoos like some spic thug and he looks a bit swarthy innit?
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>>580510505
>family-safe guy with face tattoos
i don't get it
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>>580510579
Blizzard doesn't have game design experts
They have monetization experts and accountants
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>>580510505
Did they invite any "classic" content creators?
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>>580510505
>twitch whore
>mentally ill jews
>lore guy that got cancer from the lore
>JUST
>random grifter
>racist guy that got raped in prison
our community
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surely they plan on using retail as the gay absorbtion shield for whatever new shit they want to announce at blizzcon, surely they have already met the gay-quota
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>>580510740
Yeah me, but I told Blizzard to suck my dick and turned down their generous offer of 2 months supply of mountain dew
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>>580510429
Aggrend promised us fewerchanges for the next project, in 2024. But i have a feeling they might've changed their minds on that.
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>>580502620
I really hope this is a reddit post because only a fucking idiot from there would actually think this.
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>>580510505
remember when Mr.GriM did videos about private servers
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>>580510879
The more i read the more I believe the leaks. Warlock tanks yes, rogues and shaman have not even been mentioned.
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>>580511174
I saw that nigga get ganked a few times on ascension warmode.
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The issue with the retail is how inaccessible and overwhelming the game feels for newer and many veteran players. Therefore classic+ will be like retail but accessible and easy to pick up for both the newer and relaxed veterans, retail- really.
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>c+ is just retail but you're locked in eastern kingdoms and kalimdor
who asked for this?
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>>580511325
its not really overwhelming at all. not anymore than logging into your 60 that you havent been on in months and not knowing what to do
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>>580511221
I believe in lock and shaman tanks, but rogue tanks is just too goofy to be real desu (even if it was a thing in sod).
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>>580502620
>That tells me Blizzard thinks this is a product that is game warping enough to deserve a box cost.
Let me introduce you to pic related.
>$70 game, less content than your average triple AAA game by at least 25%
>Full jew mode to add a hardcore version for an extra $10
>This hardcore single death version is literally the premise of the series the game is based on
NEVER underestimate a company's greed.
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Southshore shall pay in blood!
Revenge shall be mine at last!
*HC deathlog death sound*
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>>580511403
It's overwhelmingly smelly due to half the playerbase having festering axe wounds
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>>580511640
Helcular was a good friend
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>>580511403
Still you "feel" the weight of over 20 years of progress. A fresh start with gradually increasing difficulty might be just what is needed. Part of the reason why I play progressive classic is that I want to slowly get a feel on how the class gameplay and encounter design has evolved over the years. It's easier to jump into something like Aberrus raid in dragonflight which I did and went straight to the last boss in the story mode and didn't know what the fuck was going on when I tried it after having played from wotlk to legion and beyond than straight to it after raiding back in the wotlk 17 years ago.
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>>580511409
Rogue tanks would work fine if they had shields, or rather bucklers like they had in alpha
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>>580511574
Blizzard has had massively bad pr though. If they screw this up too that would be impressive. After immortal, ow2, diablo 4, and retail I don't think they have much good will left to burn. I think if they gave us something as small as SoD for a box cost, when we just got to play it without one, that would be straight up retarded.
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if ploos doesn't update the troll priest racial from vanilla to the TBC visual its a failure
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>>580512214
Rogue tanks would be so annoying to heal.
Dodge 10 attacks in a row then lose 85% in 1 big hit
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they need to classic+ cross faction like retail
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>>580512390
Someone should take away your posting rights, because that's fucking cringe and gay nigga
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>>580512390
Ew
Somebody wishes they didn't call the game Warcraft
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>>580510740
>blizz trying to find a non swarthy classic content creator
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>>580511574
>words, what do they mean?
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>>580512373
That's why you give them a buckler so the one hit getting through can be blocked and it also gives them more armour
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new parasocial dropped
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>>580448000
"oh my god i am taking things from my teammates oh my god im PRESSING NEED ON ITEMS I NEED OH MY GOD I AM LOSING MY MIND IM SUCH A WHOLESOME BOY I FEEL BAD FOR PRESSING NEED"
hoooly fuck what a sad day to have ears
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why did they make shamans dual wield in tbc instead of just forcing 2hand to be powerful in pve like with paladin?
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>>580512595
cross faction is warcraft pilled
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>>580513236
Because there's like 5 different one handed versions and only 4 2H. DW shamans should've been locked to fist weapons imo.
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>>580513104
Buckler wont be enough. Even a proper shield wouldn't be enough compared to druid/warrior.
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>>580513175
no fucking shot. timestamp? because I'm not watching the whole video.
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>>580513505
Buckler would probably give chance to parry and the rogue would have an ability to riposte. They don't need to make it as good as other tanks desu, just an off-tank tier would be good
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>>580491814
zamn this one really set them off kekw
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>>580513559
he says it multiple times, 31:00 is one of the times
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>>580513992
I get feelin that way if you are a total noob, and don't have most peoples gearing or class knowledge. But he really really goes hard on it jesus. I can barely imagine him being able to get through a normal day around other people in the real world
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Tell me about Alex. Why does he wear the hat indoors?
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>>580514227
is the ploosy in the thread with us right now?
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>>580514227
wtf this literally happened to me(im like the guy on the right)
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>>580514395
Probably balding (like me) :(
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>>580514227
Bloomers stay winning.
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>>580514227
the bybooms aint gonna like this one
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https://youtu.be/cMQtwJvYvvg
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>Make up imaginary problems and arguments
>Get angry at them
What do you call this?
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>>580515425
mental clarity.
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>>580515343
>>580513114
This nigga is one of my least favorite content creators, there's something about his voice. Is he gay or something?
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>>580513236
because only armsbvlls get to benefit from giant 2h windfury crits. rets are only included because theyre the "annoying little brother your mom forces you to include when youre with your friends" of wow
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>>580515425
ideologically captured.
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>>580514227
True and based
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>>580515425
Eraosis, a developing form of psychosis
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>>580515541
he's just a retard.
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>>580514227
total doomtranny death
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>>580516596
Gotcha
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>>580515541
dude is 29 is balding. grim stuff
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>>580517143
that only means he got high testosterone
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>>580517143
that's a completely normal age
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>>580515541
he's the worst of the worst sloptuber imaginable, complete subhuman
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jerome won
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>>580514227
The only thing I don't like is the idea of store mounts, the inevitable deluxe edition, the refusal to bring back /spit, blizzard continuing to sit on their feet to ban gold bots/farmers/sellers, or 3 days early access for Epic Edition. I fully expect to have to buy Plus like an expansion, because it's going to be more than SoD.

I am at this point, hyped.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVmZuPOzU0
The sh*tskin FEARS the HUMAN PALADIN
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>>580518563
>the shitskin fears itself
deep
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>>580518384
my problem with mtx cosmetics is that they're usually extremely gaudy or they make your in-game achievements less distinct. like the tbc one is an armored drake. the only way to get an armored drake in tbc is to be a gladiator.
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>>580518563
holy based
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>>580518563
>Tirion Fordring
Paladin nerds doesn't have any crazy feats, meanwhile Warrior niggas like Broxigar the red, went through the dark portal and wounded a fucking titan.
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>>580518563
it's funny how all the paladins are known for dieing.
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>>580518910
palakeks need their gay holy magic to help them too while warbvlls are just naturally strong
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>>580518910
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY ESL
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the most famous paladin changed class
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>>580518563
I don't know a single white guy who mains paladin. All of my paladin main friends are Asian.
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>>580519450
>esl
So? I'm a white European and you are a brown paladin.
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>>580519702
THE most famous paladin player is an aryan chvd
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>>580519016
Dying heroically to save your comrades is extremely based
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>>580519923
You can cope all you want, but when people think of your class, they think of Esfand. Nobody even knows who your guy even is.
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>>580519923
that's not Athene the Cult Leader
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>>580519923
>1 sh*tskin instantly seething
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so what do we get?
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https://www.twitch.tv/slayjka
https://www.twitch.tv/slayjka

goonbros we're here
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>>580519923
who?
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Classic+ is going to be announced at Blizzcon, not got a fancy name like Camelot or WoW next or even just called "Classic+" it's literally just going to be WoW Classic with the other servers (anniversary, era, etc.) keeping their unique titles. Some new race/class combos like Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman caught my eye, and there's one new race "Highborne Elves" which can be either Alliance or Horde (dunno if it's at character creation or during levelling though). A load of new Dungeons and the levelling raids from SoD are back it seems.
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>>580519923
drakova too
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>>580520990
id really dislike seeing all the alliance symbolism baked into dungeon set, tier sets etc on a undead, but id play it
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Give Horde ogres for +. It feels right.
Ogre Warrior, Mage, Shaman, Warlock all have precedence in the world. Maybe even hunter.
The stonemaul are right there next to the barrens and have been for decades
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>>580521320
there are a lot of ogre priests in the world too
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>>580521320
OK, but any caster class has to have 2 heads
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>>580515541
no hes just an obese kike
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NOTHING will exonerate you from playing paladin. no matter the race, paladin players are the least of their kind
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>>580521320
ogres live in a former night elf city. night elf retake it and bring ogres to the alliance
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>>580521320
its simple nagas and ogres to horde, weirdo furry troon races to gayliants
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>>580522140
Yeah but I'm a holy paladin so I'm ok
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>>580521320
they added ogres to bfa and no one plays them
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>>580523514
I would if they were in a good version of WoW.
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Pvp'ers in this game are the most mentally ill humans I've ever met.
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furbolgs are friendly to night elves in that wc3 mission therefore we need furbolgs on ally
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can someone fucking leak something already
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Posting this now so close to announcement because I don’t really want to give clickbait sloptubers the time to make a video on this.
Zones:
-Shatterspear Strand
-Nendis
-Wildhammer Highlands
-Plunder Isle
-Ogrezonia
-Dustgulch
-Hakkari Stretch
-Gilneas
-Gillijim’s Isle
-Kul Tiras
-The Island of Doctor Lapidis
-The Broken Isles

Dungeons:
-Stonetalon Caverns
-Uldum
-Mount Hyjal
-Barrow Dens

Raid:
-The Dark Portal

Races:
-High Elf (Alliance) Warrior, Paladin, Hunter, Rogue, Priest, Mage
-Ogre (Horde) Warrior, Hunter, Priest, Mage, Warlock, Shaman
-Goblin (Neutral) Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Mage, Warlock
-Skyborne (Neutral) Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Mage, Shaman, Druid

Hybrid Specs (no new specs, just expanded trees with new playstyles ala Feral Druid):
-Enhancement Shaman (Tank)
-Combat Rogue (Tank)
-Holy Priest (DPS)
-Demonology Warlock (Tank)
-Affliction Warlock (Healer)
-Arcane Mage (Healer)

Race/Class combos:
-Human Hunter
-Human Druid
-Dwarf Shaman
-Gnome Priest
-Tauren Paladin
-Undead Paladin
-Undead Hunter
-Troll Druid

Misc:
-Jewelcrafting
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>>580523742
Apart from maybe high elves, furbolgs makes the most sense to me both lore wise and world design wise. There's plenty of room in hyjal or timbermaw hold to give them a city and starting zone that leads into darkshore
I don't really want alliance to have shamans though is my only quibble.
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>>580509727
>its wow 2
>its to get people back into retail
>its not for you

Its a seasonal server you fucking retards holy shit. Blizzard IS NOT killing their cash cow known as Retail which makes hand over fist for insanely little effort (see $100 cash shop mounts)

You are going to get a shitty asset flip with minimal changes. Camelot is not "the new future of WoW"
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(you) tried at least
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>>580524070
>You are going to get a shitty asset flip with minimal changes
Less chance for blizz to shit the bed at least. I'm sure theyll still find a way though
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>>580523924
>warlock healer
>no troll warlock
>no dwarf warlock
>no dwarf mage
>human druid
flop
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Imagine if the announcement is a new SoD season lmao
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>>580514227
Doesnt sound like any of that shit it sounds like something we never even once asked for.
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>>580523924
If we get even a tenth of that I will be pleasantly surprised
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>>580523790
theres like 10 people on the classic team. why would they leak anything and risk their job?
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>>580524438
Its most likely going to be something along these lines but retards are creating this meme that its actually something bigger. When the streamers came back from the NDA meeting they all looked fucking pissed so we know its going to be shit.
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>>580524438
>if
you mean when
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>>580523967
agreed
i dont really care about the shaman/paladin stuff but i think its more sovlfvll if it stays exclusive
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>>580524741
Blizzard doesn't sell season preorders
Blizzard doesn't put seasons as their own separate game in their CSS
Seasons don't add new races
Seasons aren't on their own client
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>>580523742
High elves
Goblins
Ogres
Furbolg
Naga
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Fully fleshed out alliance and horde look like this

Human
Dwarf
Night Elf
Gnome
Blood Elf
Furbolg
Pandaren
Wildhammer

Orc
Tauren
Undead
Troll
Ogre
Goblin
Darkfallen
Amani
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>>580521320
If you're doing Stonemaul Ogres surely you gotta give em Hunters because of Rexxar. Then again Undead's leader was a Hunter and they didn't get that class for 6 years.
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>>580525774
I guess if Tauren hands aren't too fat to use a gun ogres can too
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When Ploos launches we are all playing on the RP server, right?
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>>580524741
>When the streamers came back from the NDA meeting they all looked fucking pissed
when was that? It seems like every streamer is feeling very optimistic right now
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retail bvlls are laughing at us bros saying ploos isn't real and this new "vanilla inspired" game is for retail chads who buy store mounts and use transmog
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>>580525916
no im following asmongold
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>>580526098
so pve it is!
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>>580525916
I'll play on the RP-PVP server that will inevitably be ruined by streamers who are still FOMOing over Grobbulus.
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>>580525916
I am 100%
My least favorite thing about era is there is no RP community
My least favorite thing about retail is there is no RP community (only "comfy" blended RP and ERP like XIV)

>>580526061
I don't know why they think they'd run 2 MMOs practically that'd aim for the same audience
It's gunna be like Guild Wars
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>>580526343
I miss Legacy WoW. Was my favorite private server ever. It was basically like an arena tournament server (instant 80 wotlk server), but instead of pvp it was entirely focused around RP. Lots of goldshire types (muh comfy rp, muh erp, muh cabin rp), but there was a lot of actual conflict style RP. GMs would work with guilds to setup little towns and areas with object placement. There was perma death option that most players actually respected in rp. There was skins for races like amani trolls and dark iron dwarves and there were lots of tribal guilds (one of the major server events was the amani troll guild invading silvermoon on the elf GoT roleplayers, which inevitably killed the server when the tranny elf gm godmode mana bomb'd the trolls and brought out failRP drama).

I was in a Dark Iron Dwarf guild where we took over the Thandol Span and hosted gambling in the Dark Iron Bar area of BRD and host duels to the death (sometimes through RP, sometimes through actual pvp) in the Ring of Law while money was trading spectator's hands and other criminal behavior. It was such a unique experience being able to get actual solid and fun RP in WoW and the server died way too soon. Now the only RP private servers that exist are all instanced shit instead of a shared world and it's just ERP chatrooms like VR chat but in WoW.
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>>580519923
twitch link????
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>shows amazing cinematic for The Last Titan in Northrend
>And now... for the features
>Full fledged expansion
>ALL of Northrend
>Vrykul for Alliance, Tuskarr for the Horde
>Runemaster class
>crowd goes wild
>But first... Classic plus
>full MMORPG that's going to run alongside retail, getting Classic-style expansions on retail "off-years"
>people can smell the cum in the stadium
>But this is also the beginning of next 20 years of Warcraft...
>a brief cinematic plays with a bunch of logos flashing on the screen
>WARCRAFT IV, set after The Last Titan
>Netflix animated series to coincide with Warcraft IV
>Arthas game and live action series to coincide with Classic+
>BTW, Lord of the Clans is OUT NOW and on Battle.net
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>>580523924
I'd love a human druid/undead paladin combo
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>>580527279
>people can smell the cum in the stadium
I think they could probably smell that as soon as they arrived.
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>>580526013
>>580527279
Stop, I can only get so erect.
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>>580527417
>I think they could probably smell that as soon as they arrived.
blizzcon is the easiest place to get your dick sucked next to the RNC
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>>580527279
>Runemaster class
>crowd goes wild
Classic andies are pathetic lmao. Don't look up what you missed out on with Ascension's CoA. It would make you cry
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>>580521320
>The stonemaul are right there next to the barrens and have been for decades
There's ogre clans who are canonically part of the horde, so its fucking wild they never did anything with it.
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>>580527674
I did play CoA
it was retailslop
The classes were okay but not even as good as retail classes
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>>580521164
is there any gear in the game, classic or retail, that has a different appearance depending on your faction?
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>>580526098
invite to asmon layer
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>>580527279
>>Vrykul for Alliance
They're gonna have to scale down their height then, because afaik Vrykul are notably taller than Trolls and Tauren.
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https://www.twitch.tv/evampre
https://www.twitch.tv/evampre
https://www.twitch.tv/evampre

we're all here
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>>580527950
that's a boy. nobody is there.
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Starter Zones (in Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms)
01-10: Bloodsail Isle (Goblins)
01-10: Grudgemaul (Ogres)
10-20: Tel Abim

01-10: Gilneas (High Elves)
01-10: Mount Hyjal (Furbolg)
10-20: Barrow Dens

Leveling Zones (in a third ‘Elemental Plane’ continent)
25-35: Verdant Fields
30-40: Skywall
30-40: Emerald Dream
35-45: Deepholm
40-50: Sandgrove
48-55: Abyssal Maw
51-60: Emerald Nightmare
55-60: Firelands

Skyborne are not playable, they’re an enemy faction working for Al'Akir
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why are all these gooks clammering over dlss5
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>>580528526
is this real?????????????????????????????????
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>Classic+
>Read comments on Classic+ videos
>It's just people talking about all the things they don't like about Classic and what should be different.
DOA. Classic purist are going to lose everything they liked about nilla, and quit. The intermediates will get bored because they are not no life degens like the nilla's. And the retoilets won't touch it because it will be an easier version of retail.
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>>580528526
This sounds bretty good. Blizzard would never
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doomtrannies never won any war
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>>580524741
>>580526013
esfand literally was not invited back to Blizzcon, nor was he given a seat at the creator event this year. in his own words he said he was "too aggro with blizzard and they didnt like that".

he was part of 5 creators invited to view C+, and a couple months later he's not being invited back.

Now this can be a good thing because many people DONT like esfands takes, he was quite pushing the "use TBC prepatch as the base, keep the rest of the world the same" type. Makes sense the ret/prot paladin would want broken version of paladins in vanilla, so if blizzard said no won't do that, he wouldnt be happy.

However, Xaryu seems happy, and his idea of C+ was "launch with literal vanilla but add polls to have community decide on upcoming features". So, who knows.
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If you don't have the real leaks for classic+ you're already behind the pack. My guild is trying to figure out the best way to farm Arcane Infusions, don't know this is? Told you it was too late for you, maybe next fresh.
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why does blvd keep namedropping some irrelevant sh*tskin?
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releasing it as a era fresh with community polling sounds like the most dogshit out of any of the takes i've heard so far, what a take
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>>580529527
Has Soda said anything involving him going there? Because he at least somewhat played private servers off stream or on an alt channel back in the day. I have no clue what his opinions or ideas for ploos are though.
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>haven't played in a year, want to again but waiting for "Classic+"
>go to /r/classicwow to see if there has been any leaks
>every rumor/"""leak""" says there will be seasonal passes and microtransactions out the ass
>90% of people are defending this, as long as they're "only cosmetic"
It's already over, isn't it?

These are items and models that could have been rewarded through gameplay, like would have been the case in actual Classic. All visual cohesion is going to be lost, too. I don't think this is actually going to be "classic"+, bros...
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>>580529769
the "community " is dogshit ever listening to these freaks would be the worst possible decision and osrs is dogshit
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>>580529527
Nixxiom is a former Turtle-chad and lover of oldschool Warcraft and he said his Blizzard friends told him he'll love the news at Blizzcon
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>>580528721
Just brown things, same with AI.
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>>580529527
Aside from using BC as base, Esfand seemed reasonable and able to articulate the reasons behind the game design of Vanilla. It would seem plausible that he was very critical of all of the dogshit they plan to do in Classic+ which he knows will upset the Classic purist, being a private server veteran himself.
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>>580497530
same reason why linux has no viruses compared to windows
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>>580529808
There is a tiny hope that blizzard realizes they have 2 main separate audiences when it comes to WoW. There is a chance they know that the nillas wont stand for that kind of stuff. They'll just quit or go back to pservers
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>>580528768
>4 new races
Are you seriously asking if this is real? lmao.
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>>580530259
>Goblins
>High Elves
>new
LMAO this ain't 2004 anymore
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>>580529808
they're retail players poisoning the well. they also vote in any "community poll" to add retail features like transmog, token, player housing timed dungeons and crap like that. let's hope blizzard ignores them
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>>580529527
>esfand literally was not invited back to Blizzcon
why do you people keep saying this like it's true?
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>>580530398
This. Retail players know that if Ploos (WoW 2) is good, people will move to play it and leave retail behind, meaning all their paid mogs and mounts instantly become worthless.
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>>580529808
og had a fucking pet with the collectors box lol
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>>580529808
idk bro but you should go back.
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>>580530365
Are you trolling or do you lack reading comprehension?
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>>580530541
he literally said it himself on stream multiple times

he will be there on his own but he will not be part of the creator crossover nor was he sponsored to be there
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>>580530759
then provide a single piece of evidence for this claim.
there should even be a megathread on leddit about this if it's true.
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>>580530710
Where else do you suggest one look for WoW Classic related news or leaks, perchance?
Like it or not, Reddit is the main source of news for most games now.
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I hope classic+ has a pre-order and a cash shop and a subscription and tokens. We need to support blizzard! :)
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>>580529790
he has been quite quiet on this front aside from "other streamers are telling me to delay OF3 until after C+ launches so we can practice"

>>580530129
Esfand was the only one who didnt really do much with Hardcore wow, which has his own panel. he was very much the most "end-game focused" creator, compared to the others that focused more on community.

>>580530840

https://www. youtube.com/ watch?v=P-6s9tMX75Q

16 minutes in
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>>580530840
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wa01kl/esfand_removed_as_blizzard_partner_after_alleged/
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>>580531110
My understanding is in his own words hes been very firebrand and negative to Blizzard about classic+ privately. They prob want to sponsor people who are excited about it or at least can pretend to be esp at Blizzcon.
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>>580531104
>>580531110
god damn you people are retarded.
>>580510505
why isn't any c+ creator on this image?
does soda have a meet&greet? xaryu? payo? wille? any of your other parasocial friends?
were any of your other parasocial friends sponsored?
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>>580528526
>in a third ‘Elemental Plane’ continent
Literally what people ask the most is that we don't move away from azeroth so this better don't be true
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>>580531419
the fact that the fat mexican who bought TBC level boost & shop mount from blizzard is saying its over for ploosie because its toilet- should tell you everything you need to know about season of camelot
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>>580531467
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>>580531630
He's Persian thoughbeit.
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Imagine if just 1 million people buy the $50 edition. Fuck, Plus is going to make insane money, Blizzard can't be retarded enough to fuck it up
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>>580531903
>steal all content Turtie developed over 8 years
>sell it at a $80 price tag
Wonder how anti-Turtie shills will react to this
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>>580531903
i will absolutely buy the $90 for three days access. right before i burn my entire stock of PTO and take 5 weeks off to play with my kids. I'll also buy them the extra versions.

perks of being high income
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>>580528526
I want to believe
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>>580531903
Microsoft is a 3.6T market cap company, i'm sure this is very important.
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>>580531903
seasonal boys will keep falling for it, they don't have the ability to look into the past or the future.
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If it's not just Nilla' with extra content. I ain't playing. Simple as. But I will spend inordinate amounts of time (Free from playing WoW) doomposting and sowing discord in every community I can, so it fails.
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>>580532401
>profits d-don't matter!
is this the latest retoilet cope?
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>>580531776
>his name is all over it
what did he mean by this?
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>>580529527
>>580529790
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>>580532675
WTF PARASOCIAL BROS???
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>>580532675
I'm not watching all of that, i'm just watching the main stream nigga
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>>580532675
>>580532838
hes referring to the Developers x Creators Showcase
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>>580528526
Why would we have a third continent in Vanilla plus and why the fuck are elves in Gilneas? Makes no sense.
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>>580532537
>retoilet
You're the fucking retard arguing for box prices and $50 dollar editions, and you have the balls to call me a r*tail player? You seem very confused nigger.
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>>580528526
you might as well just play cataclysm
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>>580533216
plus having a box price means it won't be a seasonal slop server you fucking sh*tskin
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NEW BAKE

>>580534081
>>580534081
>>580534081
>>580534081

MIGRATE
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>>580519702
I main hpal, married white guy tho, not single

Human female ofc. Both in retail and in hardcore. I pvp in retail and HC in era.
I used to play rdruid but finally threw in the towel in slands and now play hpal.
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>>580534140
fucked up title so people can't find the thread, kys.
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New thread:

>>580534350
>>580534350
>>580534350
>>580534350
>>580534350
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>>580534140
Troll thread.
>>580534426
Good bake but deleted, bravo mods.
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New thread:

>>580535059
>>580535059
>>580535059
>>580535059
>>580535059
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>>580534140
not posting in that shit it doesn't show up in my search.
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>>580529527
the day OF the meeting he posted "what if the dark portal never opened?" dude couldnt keep his mouth shut for a single day. didn't get invited back
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>so many different "leaks"
>they all sounds shit
cool
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>>580531467
>payo?
That dude can barely afford a big mac let alone a trip out of his begger's den
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>>580527617
By dudes on Grindr or cosplay hos?
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>>580545557
>By dudes on Grindr
if you don't smell like sweat and cum I'm sure you could find a cute cosplay girl, but the vast majority of them are there with their boyfriends.



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