World of Warcraft Classic GeneralServers discussed:>Classic ERA>Classic HardcoreFAQ:>Is classic+ happening?No, datamining and insider leaks have revealed that "Camelot" is a seasonal retail server with shop mounts, deluxe pre order packages, wow token and a cash shop and is not worth paying attention to.>What version should I play?Classic ERA is permanent vanilla with no resets or seasons, it is the recommended version for most people.>What about Hardcore?Hardcore is great, if your character dies there, you can move it to ERA and continue playing there.>Which Faction should I pick?Both are great, the population is split around 60/40 in favor of the Alliance.Tools and resources:>Talent calculator https://classicdb.ch/?talent>look up quests and items: https://www.wowhead.com/classic>weakauras: https://wago.io/>Addon client: https://www.curseforge.com/download/appPrevious: >>580660452
>from the people who destoyed retail, classic progression, classic anniversary, sod and som.>THIS time it will be different, trust the plan.
samefagging doomtroons
WOW 2 HYPE>PLAYINGyes>RACEhuman>SEXyes>CLASSpaladin>SPECret>PIZZAordered>TROONSack'd>SHOESon10 hours boys.
I want to give out an early sincere thank you to all the buck boys who will pre order the epic/deluxe packages, tokens and shop mounts for Cameltoilet.Your hard earned money will go towards paying for the server costs of paying for my game and will fund it for Millenia. Thank you for securing the future for me and my peoples.Sincerely yoursErabull
>>580692569>linking your own shitpostthats nice dear, we're having a serious discussion
total samefag and doomtranny death in 12 hoursnow seethe
2019-2026Classic has been operating under minimal resources for 7 years, generating essentially free income for Blizzard. Now imagine you're the singular lone developer who had to face the executives and shareholders 2 maybe 3 years ago. >"Yes guys I know we've been essentially printing free money releasing classic slop and then classic slop again with slopiversary, but please guys just give me 2 years and 100 developers and we'll create something good">Shareholders and Executives: "Yeah fuck off retard we'll fire more developers this quarter instead"Classic players are now expecting some grandiose project that has been worked on by 100+ developers for multiple years.Measure your expectations now before you're let down tomorrow.
how do i pally tank in tbc? from the start
Testament status has evolved over the course of the last few days in an interesting way. As the datamines and leaks came in about the pre order deluxe packages, micro transactions, shop mounts and retail models the seasonal retail boys changed their position from:>camelot is classic+! we take vanilla and add a few things to make it a complete game.to>Actually a deluxe pre order package is good because x>Actually I like shop mounts>Battle pass is actually a good thing>3 day early access is actually what I want>Mythic+ would actually fit nicely>mage healers and rogue/warlocks tanks are actually a good thing>WoD was actually a good expansion>What do you mean transmog is bad?>SoD was excellent>dungeon finder is a good thing.>Seasons are good actually>seasonal is CLASSIC>horde paladins and alliance shamans are now a good thing
where we dropping?
>>580692514>3x5 bingo cardThis is some high tier retardation.
>>580692784>>580692737let's get you back to era gramps
Soon you will see buck broken blizzdrones pre order the deluxe hero ultimate Camelot package, ride their shop mount while playing a sky elf death knight typing "classic+ hype" in world chat as they are riding to Orgrimmar to sell a wow token.
>>580692974don't forget they will have sodapoppin, xaryu, or asmongold on their second monitor spamming chat with CLASSIC+ HYPE!!! here's another $50 streamerman!!!
>>580692974>niller who's been paying Blizzy $15/mo since 2019 to play the exact same game tries to decide retoilet fags for wasting their money
#1 world first raider in wow's history with all world first kills from vanilla to end of TBC explains it besthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MNFWhCw8dg Listen and learn
>>580692735waiting to see if they add new races or dkbut i will be playing
we are herehttps://www.twitch.tv/esfandtvhttps://www.twitch.tv/esfandtvhttps://www.twitch.tv/esfandtv
me and the boys riding our deluxe pre order ultimate hero package bear mounts to the new mythic+ gay centaur dungeon to get the best transmog sets for our skyborne deathknight and ogre demon hunters, we sold some tokens to afford the best consumes#Cameltoilethype#TotallyNotRetail
Jokerd just recapped the latest Cameltoilet revelations, looking very grim...>disney graphics, casting and running animations from retail>transmog>retail- instead of classic+>deluxe pre order package with a 3 day early start>cash shop>shop mounts>token>box price/sub/microtransactions
can you fags get some new material already?jesus fucking christ, you are taking extreme liberties with the term "ritual post"step up your game morons
>>580693238Based, I will roll an ogre skyborn demon hunter, I saved up some moneys for about 10 wow tokens and the epic/ultimate package so I can get the shop mount and transmog set as well.Hoping that it also comes with an exclusive hearthstone animation <3#CamelotHype!
>>580692784I did a server alone in a year or so and changed literally thousands of things and added new dungeons, etc, a team of only 10 dedicated retards can do way more than that in 7 years
>>580693385i already used all of my tokens genning these ones
>Okay team, lets at least make sure that every guard in Stormwind is as black as the ace of spades. Can't forget the colored folx.
>>580692735>PLAYINGyes>RACEvariety of ELF>SEXyes>CLASSWOYER>SPECFURY>PIZZAchicken caprese>TROONSgotta HANG>SHOESalways on
>>580693569I don't know why >WOYERmade me laugh so fucking hard. But thanks, anon.
>>580693093
>>580692737Thist. Mankrik bull
>>580693569>PLAYINGyes>RACEhuman>SEXyes, futa-only>CLASSpriest>SPECdisc>PIZZAhawaiian>TROONSgonna hang themselves regardless of my opinion>SHOESoff
RET PALADINS RUN THIS GAME AND THIS GENERAL
7 years of classic brehs... did you enjoy the journey?
>>580693551>only pretty excited and not ecstatiche knows it's a flop, he's jus trying to let the smart people know before hand
>>580693784The parts that weren't vanilla (leveling aside) were p good. But that's how I knew would go for me. Was only excited about classic in the first place for TBC/WotLK. Vanilla endgame was terrible in 2005/2006 so of course it was gonna be fucking terrible in 2019.
>>580693784eh everything after tier 5 was dogshit aids worse toileti enjoyed classic '19 and two tiers of tbc, sod phase 1 until january, and anni fresh until i quit because the anni population was insufferable, shame i didn't get to corpse camp grimlic
>>580694031>says ecstatic/over the moon/blown away etc>"He's really trying to sell it, isn't he? It's obvious it's shit and he's just trying to hype it up"negative retard spins everything to suit their opinions
>>580692861If this is classic+ even i, a complete doomer, might fold. But we'll see soon enough.
>>580692784Blizzard has thousands of employees. You seriously think they can't afford 100 of those employees to work on a project that is already 80% complete?
>>580694149you know you can just scroll past rightyou're quite literally taking the bait
How many hours bros? I get off work in 4 and a half.
>>580694258motherfucker every post here is like this. if you removed every pure nonsense ritualposting of just fucking nothing there'd be nothing left.
>>580693350>disney graphicsNo one knows this. All we've heard is possibly updated graphics, but no one knows if it's retail style or an entirely new style. Didn't read the rest.
>>580694301Just under 12 hours, anon.
>>580694461Think it will be at the start of the opening ceremony or near the end?
>>580694601Fuck of I know. It's almost certainly what they're considering their biggest announcement so they might want to save it for last, but I wouldn't be surprised if they come right out the gate with it since they've been so on the nose about it happening.
>>580694739Hmm maybe I can squeeze in a quick sleep then. I usually sleep around an hour before it would start
>>580694601it'll be at the opening ceremony like SoD and 2019. they have two warcraft what's next panels 1 and 3 hours later though
>>580694816Do what you've gotta do, anon. I'm an insomniac so if I could consistently fall asleep at a regular time I would never give it up for a video game announcement I'll be able to read about when I'm awake.
>>580694601at the start to bring the hype, following a diablo announcement
>>580694949I find it near impossible to sleep right after working and I like waking up and going right to work, so this will be tough. I normally wouldn't care, but I need to be here so I can see the live seething from either Classic troons of Retoilet troons, whoever is the most upset I need to shitpost them.
>>580695117>whoever is the most upset I need to shitpost them.A man after my own heart. I, too, an primarily here for the melties.
What are the chances that classic+ stays on Azeroth but way before the events of where vanilla was?
>>580692861this horde shit doesnt even make a lick of sense mah niggawould be neat though
>>580696376Not impossible, but seems unlikely. I feel like that would be left to CoT content if it happened.
>>580696402what part doesnt make sense mah nigga
>>5806963760%It's after classic but instead of TBC the dark portal doesn't open, I don't know where all this talk of prequel shit came from
>>580696376seems unlikely only because that is probably too much work for modern blizzard. i would expect just filling in the zones and adding on to the current world instead. id be happy to be proven wrong in 8 hours though
>>580696509i can accept all the orc clans but goblins dont belong mah nigga
orc girls are angels
>>580696690try playing Warcraft 2 you worthless secondary
>>580696690
>>580696789tauren girls > orc girls
But what does it mean?
>>580696827>>580696831shit you right mah niggas, my bad i forgot them little cunts were zepplins
>>580697009it means theyre turning off the power to the dark portal
>>580696690>he never played WC2It's been 22 fucking years since WoW came out and still I find myself disappointed with the sheer number of faggots who didn't actually play the games it was based off of. But faggots like you who pretend to know about the lore while being completely wrong are the fucking worst.
>>580697009it means they are skipping entering the draenor portal and instead going straight to legion
>>580697009building a data center in elwynn forest
>>580697259Wonder how they would go about that scenario. Just give every level 90 character a boost to 100? I can see why they'd want to skip WoD and go straight into Legion, though.
our guy esfand lost weight
>>580697478>our guyNot mine.
>>580693093faggots both of you
>>580697191ive played wc2 but it was when i was a kid and it was that battlenet edition so im not sure if it had all of the expansions
>>580696376What if Classic+ has rape mechanics?
>>580698114I'm fine with that if they add dryads.
Attention Kim, Rajesh, Abdul, Galang, and Chang.I will not RMT with you.I will not partake in your GDKPs.I will not buy your boosts.I will play ploos. You will not.You will stay on era.
>>580698573its interesting how era doesnt have a lot of balkan run gdkps but 75% of wotlk gdkps were balkan run
>>580698573>dick sucking face
>ploos could be the greatest game of all time that everyone dreamed of>it will be flooded with bots and rmt with 0 punishment>it will have AI service tickets instead of GMs>it will give nu-blizzard moneyI just can't find a reason to play it desu. Might as well just wait for Ploos pservers
>>580698981>sees a man>immediately thinks about sucking penis or having his penis sucked by a manstraightest /wowcg/ poster
Would you play retail+?
>>580699042No but I’d play retail-
>>580699042is that retail but they make fire mage good again? i would
what does this face mean
>>580699454That's the face he makes with he's watching his wife fuck her boyfriend.
>>580697009Warcraft 1 has 2 campaigns that are alternate realities from each other. The one that is "canon" in our timeline is the one where the orcs win the first war. Classic+ explores the timeline where the humans win the first war.
>>580699454tfw you just hit the pipe and the cops walk up
>new raids to progress and older raids being used as possibly catch up smaller raids>graphics up to WOTLK level>retail character models>lots of discussion was had about the area above Stormwind>"If you expect as much content as TurtleWoW, you will be dissapointed." >FOMO >completely new professions, none of the old onesLet's see if the shit I was told in 2025 ends up being right. A lot could of changed. Originally they wanted full blown retail graphics and it was heavily debated.
>>580699626>completely new professions, none of the old onesThis alone is obviously enough to know that all of it is complete bullshit.
>>580699675A lot could of changed in almost 1.5 years. I was told that the reason they did Scarlet Enclave at all was to test if Classic+ was possible. If it was received positively they would do it.
>>580699823>could ofStopped reading there.
>>580699906*shrug* we'll see in 12(?) hours.
>>580699958>*shrug*Stopped reading there.
>>580699454performative thumbnail expression that doesn't exist in real life (with the exception of third worlders)
How could Blizzard fix the brown problem without straight up changing how rage generation works? Rage is the main reason Warriors are so good and feel so fun to play. A flat damage nerf across the board feels kind of lazy.Also what classes are safe picks for Ploos? I think Mage is going to get shit on for example, their toolkit is just too good at everything. They basically solo every other class except maybe Warlock, but the fight is close. They excel at farming, leveling, can carry dungeons, do above average raid dps, and just seem too strong. I wanted to go mage, but there is no way they keep it's power level, even Turtle nerfed blizzard (but wasn't that big of a deal since CoC still let you mob grind like crazy).
>>580700087>How could Blizzard fix the brown problem without straight up changing how rage generation works?They can't. Normalizing rage generation is the known and proven solution, and is exactly what they should do.
>>580700190The only reason I ever touch Vanilla warrior is because of Rage, so that would be pretty sad.
>>580700246It's still a fun resource when it's normalized. It's just not complete bullshit anymore.
>>580700087druid is surely the safest class to pick
>>580700370And ret pally. You know Esfand got his filthy Persian hands all over it.
>>580700370I'm torn between not wanting updated models and very much wanting the WotLK cat/bear form models that change color with your hair and just look substantially better then the vanilla versions.
What are some things on your classic+ wish list? For me its:>obvious stuff like many new dungeons and raids also full class/spec rebalance>stay on azeroth but its drastically different than vanilla>world buffs don't work in raids or dungeons>vanilla friendly QOL like duel spec, fast mail, guild banks, etc. also no flying mounts>make dungeons meaningful in some way like M+ but no time trial garbage>systems that get rid of or at least heavily delay raidlogging>make longevity an actual thing so even really old raids and dungeons are relevant, basically good horizontal progression >loot is tied to the boss and not the raid so my lockout isn't ruined by a bad raid group>make professions allow you to craft really powerful items and make the mats something that you have to farm outside raids and make them bop>overhauled pvp system especially emphasizing open world pvp>raids to be flexible between 10-20 people>blizzard actually stops botting or at least punish gold buyers for once and set a precedent of it to deter others from doing the same
>>580700479wotlk forms were good yea. i never liked playing the vanilla forms
>>580700637I mean that's about the safest wishlist possible so you won't find may people disagreeing with most of it outside of meh changes faggots who have always had bad taste.
>>580700765I would really like to play a Feral Druid so I'm seriously fucking hoping for that. Outside I guess I'll play something else.
>>580700637Blizzard can't stop botters. They have gotten too advanced for Warden. Warden scans at the task manager level. More advanced botting software have their own hypervisors now. Your regular joe shmoe bot aiken to Honor Buddy has fairly easy detectable signatures. The ones that have the strong bots keep it close chested versus sell it online and have gone years being undetected unless manually reported and reviewed by GMs. Which is why they don't get caught. Very briefly in 2020 did Blizzard actually attempt to hunt bots. Pic related is them trying. The name is scratched out but it was the GM that got fired for banning that guy harassing a streamer.
>>580700087Any of the 3 faggot hybrids (shaman/druid/paladin) are an extremely safe bet, if sodomy was anything to go by
>>580701225Can Blizzard do something to deter gold buyers at least?
>>580701337Yes, but it's a monkey's paw situation. Pic related.
Is Classic+ going to be its own version with its own separate new content patches going forward for years to come? Similar to OSRS? Obviously we don't know but if this wasn't the care that would be really disappointing.
The solution to killing botting is to just devalue gold or remove it entirely. The entire concept of a supply and demand can’t exist if there’s no economy and everything is acquired through gameplay.
>>580701337Some type of threshold would need to be triggered for manual review by GMs. For example, an account 2 months old receiving a trade of 2000g or more. The problem is, gold purchases vary and you will either get alerted with a ton of false positives and ban a lot of innocent players, or the threshold will be too high where it catches nobody.From monitoring their banwaves and how they do it, they cast a wide net generally. For example, the banwave on Era with fly hacking Mara mage boosters was a blanket ban of every ID. So even innocent boostees that had zero idea got caught in the ban and had to get their account manually reviewed.
>>580699454same as this
>>580700087rape them of their damage and staple more and more threat onto their abilities. or rape them of their ability to generate threat.browns have both had it too good for too long and are out of control. doing anything at all will create a mass cascade of bitching, even the slightest adjustment will make them scream "RAPE". you would need to be steadfast and have faith that they will simply adjust to it like everything else they have adjusted to in the past.alternatively, give other classes (ideally single role classes) access to their niche with zero downsides, much like warrior. this will also set off the rape alarm thoughbeit.there is not a world where the vanilla enthusiast warrior will not bitch and moan.
>>580700637>vanilla friendly dual speci hate this idea so much since it removes a goldsink into a one-time purchase, id rather tone down respec cost to 10g max as a cap, rather than 50g
>>580701559That's what most people are expecting. They did say in the SoD end blog post that they are working on something for the long-term specifically for wow classic, which could mean anything really, but yeah. I wouldn't hope for something like osrs with polling etc, they're too stubborn for that. We will see in 10 hours at least
>>580702061The WoW community is too retarded for OSRS type polls. Genuinely.
>token mentioned>seething erachang frightened hes losing his income appears
>>580692859once you realize that cameltoilet and retail have the same target audience everything becomes crystal clear
>>580702216TBF, even in retail it's possible to still turn a profit with token in. Sadly token is their catch-all response to RMT instead of actually policing RMT with actual GMs.
>>580692528Brudda, didn't you hear? just because blizzard has a 18 year streak of total incompetence doesn't mean they haven't been hiding a team of actually talented devs in the wings to produce classic+
The fact that there is no leaks kinda confirms how garbage it is. No one even feels the need to be the cool guy that leaks it cause its so shit its just no worth it.
Retail and Cameltoilet will have its own separate new content releases going forward because Blizzard doesn't want you to cancel your sub. Normally players will play retail when there is new content but after a couple months they unsub until the next big patch. Cameltoilet will be the bridge in between so more players will just keep their sub going indefinitely. Also I expect Cameltoilet to have a lot of modern elements to attract as many retail players as possible.Its increasingly looking like they wanna make a lesser version of retail where the two games work in tandem together with cross promotions to keep you subbed and hopping between the two. Retail- no plus.
>>580702517It means the devs that worked on it arn't even confident in it themselves. I highly doubt the NDAs are any different than their regular ones.
>>580702517Yeap, why would someone risk their career to leak a shop mount or what comes in the epic pre order package.
It would be so funny if camelot would have a seperate monthly subscription
>>580702624Correct. It will "bridge the gap between retail and classic players" but that bridge is 80% on the retail side.
its happening
Predicting that Cameltoilet will be shit is like predicting that your alcoholic uncle will be drunk tomorrow
>>580702624DOA piece of shit game lol
>>580702756WoD classic?????
>>580702858the retail disney models will initially have a toggle but the toggle will vanish overtime just like what happened in original toilet around wod
>hunter is one of my favorite classes>hate the dead zone and feeding my stupid petRogue it is for classic ploos I guess
>>580701450Token doesn't do anything when the gold from bots costs half as much.
>>580703113>she thinks that retail from temu will have features like pet feeding or dead zoneL0L
How will classic+ handle legendaries?
>>580703365My guess is how Ashbringer was in SoD or Shadowmourne in WOTLK.
>>580703365Each class has its own unique legendary and its tied to an extremely long questline, something like 50+ hours. Also its all bop so gold can't make the grind shorter.
>>580703779would be giga based
>>580703779Surely they can't cook something this good
THIS WILL BE THE DAY
nillers nillers nillers..
Which streamer will you first help with his/her's legendary? I'm thinking 'mixy
>>580705020Are we not doing a guild together anon? I want to grind for (your) legendary!
WoDbros how we holding upcan't wait to raid foundry
My uncle works for blizzard and told me classic+ was an offline game with AI bots and optional online components.
>>580706068guild wars 1
>>580692514>jeet doesn't know how bingo works
>>580692514>gay centaursmmmmppphhhhh
>>580705879The grifters are laughing at us.. 'nillers are laughing at us! I can't take it, I think I'm going to throw up.. All I want is to see their stupid mouths shut..
>wow was made between 1999-2004>the few years were building the engine and actual game>then mapping out the entire world>leaving about a year to fill in the world>made by 50 people>camelot has had 3 years of development>more builds than a retail expansion has ever had>and has 50-70 people on board>they already have the engine, the gameplay, the assets, and the worldOh yeah
>>580706068Blizzard will never make an offline gameeven their singleplayer stuff is online-only
>>580706815>made by 50 peopleIt was way more than 50 people though if you look at the credits.
>>580706815And access to 20 years of additional tooling and tech to quickly churn out content on retail expansion timelines. I would imagine creating a quest with interactables and NPC paths is far easier now than it was back then.
>my name is notgarrosh>an orc called garrosh walks up to me>tells me my weapon is not sharp enough>gives me sharpening stone>invites me to guild called helscreamsi love classic bros
in classic+ you can milk fem taurens it was a much requested feature by some of the devsmages can also learn a new spell to milk other racesyour welcome
LORDAERON WILL BE OURS
>>580707279>make an orc warrior>all the channels are scrolling with GDKP and boosting services>every 3s getting spammed invites by random spam guilds>nobody chats in the open world>nobody talks in dungeons except to flame or to complain about you winning a roll over themclassic is so fun lads
meltie
>>580707763I didn't know that Barny had no chill like that. She fits in this general filled with rude autists perfectly.
>>580708038>she
>>580704816doomgods eating good tonight
>>580707763trannies have their hormones wilding out 24/7
>>580707515i just left the trade chat and all of that stopped
>>580707763Barny is just mad that no matter how good AI gets it will never be able to make him a woman.
predictions?
>>580708580see>>580692528
>>580705879I'll play it only because the raids always looked pretty cool and its on an acclerated time table. It really shouldnt ever come out though. That shit is just retail.
>>580705879ironically foundry was the last time I enjoyed a retail raid
>>580708620are Blizzard that deep into investors they can't remove mtx slop? Runescape 3 just removed all their MTX and while short term it was an obvious fall in revenue but the playerbase has been on an ever increasing climb since, which before was slowly decreasing year on year
https://www.twitch.tv/kungentvhttps://www.twitch.tv/kungentvhttps://www.twitch.tv/kungentvComfy pre blizzy nostalgia tales
>>580708978>tauren hunter>not orc
>>580708851Blizzard is a publicly traded company, they have a legal obligation to maximize shareholder profit.Jagex is privately owned.
classic ploos needs THIS
>>580709074hunters are lucky they get to play all of the best races
>get home from work>still 6 hours before any news>get the itch to play WoW in anticipation>think "i'll just hop on turtle real quick, I haven't logged in for like a year and a half now!">2 seconds later I realizeFuck man. I really hope Classic+ is good. I want to have a place I can have fun in and always log in. I thought Russian pserver would be safe, but I guess Shenna got too cocky.
>>580709584era pve cluster fixes this
i realy with you could pick race for your visage. I want to have white dragon with female gnome visage to rp as kanna kamui
>>580709803theyre calling it the most tranny post ever made on wowcg
I like voldehmort thats why I play warlockt. dark arts enjoyer
how do i say the letter n in orcish to alliance players
Gay centaur status?
>>580709632I hope with having Plus and Era/Anniversary blizzard decides to cut the sub cost of retail since it's full of MTX and them releasing just the dinosaur gave them an insane amount. I would actually be inclined to play retail every now and then if it was f2p. Like I do with Over Watch from time to time. Right now I'm unsubbed because I just got tired of niller and I didn't care for anniversary or mop. And the sub cost being there makes me question if I'm going to play for more than just a week or else it feels like a waste of money. Retail feels easy to jump into if you're leveled up and has quick content so being able to every once in a while log on to just do some dungeons for fun without having to pay a sub for the entire month/year would be nice.
>>580710128Gay centaur mount will come with the epic pre order package for 79,99$ (tip not included)
>>580710231Hypeeee
REMOVE LAYERS FROM HC
death to blizzardand centaurs don't layer mei'm still aliveHARDCORE TAUREN DAN DAN DANHARDCORE TAUREN DAN DAN DAN
If Cameltoilet flops on the announcement I'm going to Thailand for 2 weeks instead of playing that shit.
so cool to see the most influential wow gamer of all time taking the time to meet swifty
>>580711000nice dubs and tripsand yeah that shit won't be available before summer next year
>>580692514bingo is supposed to have 5x5 rows you neanderthal
>>580711436How do you know this
>account muted for being too basedI must have pissed off pedophiles because I was making fun of them before bed kek.
its over.
>>580711074does esfat even get viewers? I thought he was just an asmon orbiter.
>>580711708even if this was the case. it doesn't spell doom, it might even be good. mtx do not matter if you make a good game.
>>580711993this, give it a chance sirs
>>580692859>mtx doesn't matteradd it to the list
Why are era players so terrified of C+?
>>580711531I asked ChatGPT
>>580712626Drainage of players for a year or so.
Apparently Ploos will have a system where, periodically, a certain cosmological force reigns supreme, giving powerful semi-randomized buffs to different classes, magic schools, weapon types, and more tbd. The exact effects of the buff is invisible to players, but can be researched through a new mechanic called "Astromancy". The buffs rotate on a bi-weekly basis. In this way, they ensure relevancy of all playstyles + counteract the game being solved by YouTube slop merchants and dataminers on day one + reward experimentation + reward flexible guilds that have a balanced roster.
TBC dies TONIGHT, rmt all your gold while it still has some value
Unironically the best thing Blizzcon can do is to announce Conquest of Azeroth returning as Blizzzard approved side project. That would be more hyped than whatever low effort dogshit Blizzard will push with Classic+ and Camelot.
>Vanilla->Wrath going into an infinite loop>Call if WoW Forever
when a toileteer asks about testaments and you hit them with the bolumes
Doom Kings are about to feast like never before soon. An actual generational event.
>>580700087Keep rage as-is but change half of all NPCs in the world into frost mages.
>>580713545That sounds mentally retarded
dont ask questions, just consume product and get excited for next product
Is he coming back for classic+?
>>580714190seasonal boys do be like dat
>>580714224He never left.
just died on hardcorehaving a bunch of people whisper you "F" was the most embarrassing part
>>580714870were you the undead warrior
>>580714941no, by "just" I mean like an hour agopriest on EU, died in tanaris
who do i message for an invite to <villains>
>>580715136/w finalflash tonight
>>580715106lol how do you die as a priest
>>580715272hitting 0 hp would do the trick.
Classic = WalkingClassic is good because it is 3/4 walking simulator and 1/4 dungeon crawler. Flying mounts? Less walking. Dungeon finder teleporting to dungeon? No walking at all. The more walking Classic+ has the better it will be.
>>580715594devs...hire this man
>>580715272got killed doing the chicken quest, had like 30% mana when the scorpid group spawned and I wasn't playing with dummies or anything like thatshould have just feared and bailed but playing a priest made me think I could handle anything I guess
>>580716015that quest is fucked because sometimes the ambush mobs don't aggro so they will just sit there from the previous time the quest was done. you can just get like double spawns and a wandering scorpid/basilisk
>>580716015the feralas chicken escort got my priestrip
>>580715136whisper Aecheur
Christ Metzen if you hear me, please make it so I can corpse camp no shoes indefinitely. Please Mr. Metzen, I must kill no shoes please.
>>580717089*corpse camps lowbies in RRM in response*
we are herehttps://www.twitch.tv/einbaumhttps://www.twitch.tv/einbaumhttps://www.twitch.tv/einbaum
>>580716015Sucks ;(I never do the chickens alone. Theyre so dangerous unless you're basically green or you're a hunter.Did you have dummies? Feralas/hinterlands are sometimes easier as a priest because you can MC on to hit the others.
>>580717308>carried
i cant wait to get my 'tube feed spammed by swarthy fats acting surprised
>>580717308not watching a scatporn enjoying brown g*rman playing a noshoes
>>580717308he has an army now
If any of you losers actually have any info to leak, now is the time to do it
>>580717984see >>580692528
>Was memeing about Blizzcon since June>it's already Blizzcon dayWhere the FUCK did these 3 months go?
>>580692514>ai can't even make a functional bingo boardai is the future btw. better invest more money.
>>580707763Tranny rage is a real side effect from HRT.
>>580717510no, I wasn't prepared at all, was just rawdogging it on self-found with only tailoring because my idea was just to try out hardcore to kill time before blizzconit was pretty fun though, but I hadn't had a real dangerous moment before I died, so I think I got a little complacent.I think rerolling a warrior and taking it a little more seriously could be fun
>>580718127I don't want chud speculation I want SPECIFICS
>no credible leaksis that bad?it feels bad.so that means that one of the shitty ones - which are all of them - is real.man all i want are playable ogres. THATS LITERALLY IT.
>>580718704>>580718506see>>580702517
if wod was happening they would have datamined epic heroic editions. the question is, are they going to let us rot in mop era or flush us to the toilet
>Me the moment wow 2 is announced and TLT gets one of those shitty art slide show cinematics. Pre announcement melties were very funny, post announcement is going to be the killing blow. Do you think jannys will put up a sticky as a memorial for all the discord troon ACKs?
>>580719028They will offer free transfers from classic to retail :^)
>>580719028>recently switched to midnight enginethe flush should've been apparent
ETA?
>>580718297If AI is going to collapse and the bubble pop tell me how many short positions do you have in AI companies? After all, you're so sure and it costs you absolutely nothing to short. You could become a millionaire over night after all!
>all the warcraft art around blizzcon is from warcraft 3 time, thrall, arthas and illidanwe are going back boys
>>580719476>it costs you absolutely nothing to shortretard
>>580719028https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/FDMi0lmytRRetail sissies are getting scared, chuds.
>>580719946Retail troons are delusion hahahha, wtf did they think was going to happen? Im so happy wow 2 is coming out, with the announcement literally being the same week as the 7 million gold mount hahahaha.
>>5807194724 hours
>>580719946>>580720363are we doing the thing where we pretend like mop isn't retail so retail players can feel superior over other retail players
c+ is going to be the start of a new golden age for wow
>>580719946this was always on peoples mind but anyone with ultra rare stuff who still plays can be counted in dozens.would be nice if they could hold on to the prestige of oldfags but I don't really care either way.
filipinos run this general
>>580720818it's hilarious how they think they could have gotten scarab lord. lol retail players get an asthma attack every time they have to group up with people
>>580720818no one gives a fuck either way, retoilet is so shit and so irrelevant the literal only people who care about the "prestige" of old unobtainable items are the people who have them. If you asked your average retoilet player what a black qiraj crystal was they would have zero idea what you are talking about.
retoilet-
>>580717308this shit is so boring, I rather watch retail
>>580721164true true
time to goonhttps://www.twitch.tv/emmeliehttps://www.twitch.tv/emmelie
Retail players actually play the fucking game. They log in, adapt, and push content. Classic andys just want a dusty museum with slightly better loot so they can feel superior while AFK in Stormwind bitching that nothing ever changes.If this mode is gonna last more than two phases we need transmog so we’re not stuck looking like absolute trash forever, flying mounts so travel isn’t pure misery, catch-up for people with actual jobs, real progression that doesn’t get wiped every expansion, and Xal’atath. She’s one of the best characters Blizzard has written in years and classic+ deserves actual good story instead of the same recycled vanilla bullshit.The pure classic crowd will cry about “authenticity” while sitting on their 5th alt doing nothing. Retail players will actually fill the servers and keep the game alive.Stop treating inconvenience like a personality trait, you nostalgia addicts. Design it for people who still play the damn game.
>>580719934>they loan you the stock>you sell it collecting cash in the hopes the stock goes down>you rebuy the stock after it drops and give the loaned shares back pocketing the differenceIt's that easy anon. After all AI is going to collapse, you are so sure it will happen.
>>580721674nice b8 m8
>>580721643
>>580721819how would you rate it?
>>580721817Yeah, because timing the market is the easiest thing to do ever. In fact it's so easy that everyone is making bank with it
>>580721643doa joke piece of garbage, told you so
>>580720801All of wow is about to be considered classic WoW and WoW 2 is retail.
>>580721990just follow pelosi's trades.
oy vey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24u_6jG4GrgYou guys have been living like this?
>>580722723Seasonal toilet boys will slurp it up and say its a good thing
>>580722723I just don't see how they intend to get away with this. A majority of the people that quit playing Retail and either play Classic or quit WoW entirely (which seems to be the market they are targeting) list this kind of MTX bullshit as one of the main reasons they stopped playing. Only mazed retards overlook this shit and they are still playing retail. This will kill it, if not in the short term then definitely after about a year people will be fed up with seasonal bullshit and MTX, and a lot of people simply won't buy the game at all.
>>580723048>Only mazed retards overlook this shitI unironically still don't know what mazed means.
>1fp
>>580723048close to 100% of tbc "classic" players bough the deluxe hero ultimate outland champion package level boost and shop mountthese retards will slurp anything up, don't kid yourself
Would you buy classic + if it would cost 40 bucks?
>>580723129Idk either, its all tranny lingo from discord. Troons will say the most autistic made up words and look at you like they said something prophetic. WOW 2 HYPE!!!
>>580723129stuck in the maze
>>580723540what's the maze?
>>580723278so what's the difference? those are factions too
Where's Esfand?
>>580723719dead
>>580723278The worst part is that this leak actually seems credible>alternate timeline where instead of the orcs conquering draenor and Gul'dan joining forces with Magtheridon to turn Orc's demonic, they instead just got scared of a tiny goat girlAnd everyone clapped
literally season of slop rebranded as classic+ bravo nolan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hHGj_7NC0Q
>>580723583Retail is the maze.
will classic plus top that?
>>580723719There are some ecelebs I cannot fathom why they are still around. How the fuck can anyone watch this fat retard for wow content when he has proven to be one of the worst players of all time on many occasions? Dude couldn't even make it to 60 on hardcore.
>>580724175He represents all the ret paladin players across the world, and their stereotypes
>>580724175>Dude couldn't even make it to 60 on hardcore.on a paladin? what the fuck lmao. hardcore is barely different than default as a paladin.
grim....
>>580723583https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UXk9hLORYEThe maze is retail
>unironically shilling that fat swarthy leech
>>580724136The character skins in CoA were so fucking good if you wanted to goon to your character
>>580724175literally the only reason esfat is still around is because of his distant and diminishing connection to asmon. he started orbiting asmon in 2019 classic which juiced his numbers way higher than they should have been, and he has been riding that wave since then.
>>580724268The last onlyfags thing they all played Horde. So no paladin.
3 hours to go lads!
>>580724272Fake and gay "Camelot" is the internal name it's not going to appear on any promotional material
>>580724710Can't wait to be disappointed once more!
>>580723129https://youtu.be/-UXk9hLORYE
I'm still not buying prequel stuff. Sounds like something blizzard would never do, and too much vanilla stuff will be lost
Camelot is an Overwatch update, it's called Camelot because they're adding a "medieval" gamemode to Overwatch where the characters use swords and bows and crossbows instead of guns. This is an example of a "Star Fox Grand Prix" style leak, where they see a new product (for Grand Prix, it was Ubisoft's Starlink: Battle for Atlas) that vaguely looks like another, old product.
>>580724136pvmping
>>580725175prequels are the easiest way to get out of decades of garbage bloat that long runner series tend to have
>>580724842
my ploosy finna buss.
why wouldn't esfand answer the question bros..a known racist..
Hahaha the grifting imbecil got hacked?!
>>580725362Oh yeah it worked so great for Star Wars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-cNbR34TKYPilav destroyed tittymonster with facts and logic
hybrid tax should be a thing when it comes to raw dps numbers. why would i play a warlock if boomkins do just as much damage AND have a heal off spec?
>>580725610
>>580725362Prequels require the community to demand them. Look at Warhammer: The Old World. People didn't like Age of Sigmar, so they released a prequel. Nobody gives a shit about Warcraft 1 and 2.
>>580725763WC1 sureWC2/pre WC3 definitely has enough lore to support an MMO.
>>580725669because I don't want to play an ogre with feathers glued on
Lmfao troons are melting down in real time hahahaha. Fuck this has been one of the best days in wow history.
wow 2 will be solely led by ion and it will take place in greece.
>>580725649you're trying to tell me to side with some brown third worlder that speaks like a retard over a blue eyed white girl with huge tits?
>>580725507grim, sounds horrible.
>>580725669Hybrid tax only makes sense if the hybrid class plays multiple roles simultaneously. It's an idea from Everquest and other oldschool MMOs. WoW doesn't have oldschool MMO game design.
>>580725890Man the vast majority of retail wow players havent even played Warcraft 3.I doubt even most nillas played it, never mind W1 and 2. I'd guess 98% of warcraft interested people don't know any of the w1 or 2 lore outside of the stuff that is already directly referenced in wow.
Thread really fell off without me
>>580726006it should be as simple as thisbut the real hybrid tax is that you need multiple gear sets if you want to use multiple specsalso if you have a healing spec get ready to be forced to heal and same with tanking, thats the real tax no one talks aboutpure dps classes can just dps and collect one gear set and be done
>>580726117then they should be excited to explore a chapter of the world that they haven’t yet.i think people who are expecting “vanilla wow with a few extra dungeons and zones” are about to be severely disappointed in a few hours.
Just 3 short hours until legendary announcement where Blizzard ushers in a new era of gaming and the western, Korean and Chinese culture like they did in 2000 with diablo 2 and 2004 with world of wacraft.
>>580726345The way to do this would be a console and mobile port of WoW.
Alex will make a surprise return stream SOON.
>>580726306Well you think like an autist. People don't care about things they don't know about.Also all the discourse since pre sod has been about fixing vanilla, and extending it. Blizz isn't going to work extra hard to give the people what they didn't ask for. They are going to take the lazy route and do the bare minimum that was asked of them
Will Classic+ have Worgen if not im not playing thisAnd dont even start, Tauren already exist
*gets hacked*
>>580726643i just want more than 1 fucking race choice for druids per faction...
>>580726643Classic+ (Cataclysm) introduced playable Worgens, yeah.
>>580726643What's wrong with you man? Why do you need a specific furry race so bad. Just play Tauren then?
>>580726548if you think it took them 3+ years just to rebalance the classes and port in private server content then you’re actually delusional
>>580726394We need to update this for the new retoilet+ tourists asap
>>580726790This post is not gonna age well lol
>>580726790blizzard has too much ego to remake stuff they already created in cataclysm
>>580702385trvke
>>580726643You get Worgen. You can choose your sex, but it only affects your normal appearance, your worgen mode is only the male model and it's the vanilla model from SFK.
>>580725649he looks albanian
>>580726790They could spend 6 years doing this and still fuck it up
>>580727403oh it will probably be bad lol.but thinking it’s just gonna be era 2.0 is retarded
The look of total demoralization on the streamers who got invited to blizzard to test classic+ tells you everything you need to know. They started filling out McDonald's applications months ago.
>>580725649glavonja at it again
>>580721643Reminds me of this leak
today is a biggest happening since 911. this is the next evolution of blizzard for future generation
I am experiencing severe 3rd world fatigue.
>>580727571Oh yes, because the quality of the game famously affected these peoples playing and streaming of tbc, wrath, scata, moppie and soddie.
FOR KHAZ MODAN
K*dis won. Era won.
>>580728047Wait is this the vengeance icon?
bros which streamer are we reacting to the opening ceremony with
>>580728137whose son is this?
>>580728196Alexensual hopefully
>friend was in Esfand's vip discord>the reason Esfand wasn't sponsored to go to blizzcon is because of what he learned during the playtest and "bigotry">apparently classic+ is getting some new character customization options, you can now change your genitals and get masectomy scars>Esfand was so perturbed by this he looked at Aggrend dead in his soul and said "What is this World of Trooncrap?" and they had to have security drag him out of the building as he frothed and screamed obscenitiesDamn, Ploos is kill but Esfand is /ourpersian/
>>580728176originally it was the icon of the mountain king hero's ultimate in warcraft 3 known as avatarblizzard uses it for other things like berserker stance in wow
plusoids won...they fucking won...
>>580726754Im never ever playing Horde
>>580728292We only like Alex, Towelliiee, Sheen and Gua around these parts. Maybe blizzard should sponsor some REAL OGs
Just give me human hunters and I'll be happy.
>>580728750>human gun animations
>>580728750We need sliders for char creation too btw
https://youtu.be/bERUCRJSzTk
>>580729103based bull enjoyer
>>580729103Unless I need a world buff in org, I'm always chilling at TB.Bank, AH, Anvil, Forge, Vendors are all so conveniently located. The scenery is great, the music is chill. It's closer to Maraudon and Dire Maul which was good for me farming as a warlock too. Best city
>>580729103holy hell forgot about this kino
>>580728402I always thought it was someone covering their face in pure anger
>>580729319Real and based
You know, it feels kinda refreshing to not even know what's actually happening, the leaks have been so awful that nothing sounds real so I just gave up, started being a little bit excited for the actual show today, it's a good feeling, is this the forgotten feeling of the days before everything was datamined and leaked in advance?
There's a rumor floating around that plus will have housing ...
>>580729103>classic era>hardcore>mulgore>home
>>580702517many are saying this
>>580729428Confirmed even.
>>580729376You're going to remember why you stopped having hope pretty soon
>>580729549is that how UC was made
>no leaks>no hypeIt's unironically over for us bros...
>>580729376Yeah it's kinda nice. I'd rather leaks but having no idea is cool too
K*dis status?
>>580729331just a very angry dwarf
>>580729646youre getting the whole thing in 90 minutes bro
>>580729646I hope they announce little and tell us to log in and explore the changes ourselves.
>>580729783anon...
I have to leave like 30 minutes in to the reveal. do you think they're gonna save wow for last? Is the first half hour just going to be diablo immortal and hearthstone garbage?
It's been 4 years since the mortal races banded together against the might of the burning legion.... the drums of war thunder once again.
>>580730009The first half an hour is usually some kind of ceremony to celebrate gay centaurs
>>580729885oops, timezones bamboozle
just took my hrt heres hoping for classic+!
>>580730158not fooling anyone with those lumberjack hands bro
my ploosy finna buss.https://youtu.be/WnR0hq61FBs
>>580730158why are you posting pics of your viagra unc?
Kargoz won.
I'm excited brosmy hands are too shaky to paint right now
>>580730886are you more excited for the shop mount or the other deluxe package benefits like 3 day early start?
>>580730886I am also excited for the 80 dollar mount that everyone will line up in Orgrimmar and Stormwind on.
>>580724272seasonal boys will still eat it up
>>580731081more excited to see the chud cope after it looks good
2 hours..2 hecking hours...
>>580730413these are my favorite videos of hishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCz6TLpjr-shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l66TvYWQaJY
>>580731398>from the people who destoyed retail, classic progression, classic anniversary, sod and som.>THIS time it will be different, trust the plan.
Who else is rolling mage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z29Rk8814w
>>580730886Centaurs hypenu-graffix hypebodytypes hypedual spec with achievements, mogs and modern conveniences hype
>>580731398>Surely the people behind SoD will make a good Classic+
Classic+ HYYYYYOPE
>>580731620bodytypes have been in since 2019
FACT: classic 2019 was better than niller 2004
>>580731469im getting sleepy bros
>>580731714Male/female for me bwo. You must play toilet
i just cancelled work for the next week bros
>>580730158You're valid
>>5807317202006 tbc was better than both
>>580731815I was able to use my full two weeks starting next week. I'm going to play Camelot like I'm still an unemployed teenager
>>580731815bro you don't even know the launch day
>>580702170they do be like that
hype for the Hardcore: What's Next panel!!!!!!!!
>>580731947nah someone said it will be out within a week, I took time off too HYYYYYYPE
>>580731786
>>580731398you are hurting doomjeets' feelings
>he took off work to play a worse version of vanilla that may not even be launching soon
>>580732045Disgusting. Last I played griftcore it was still normal I swear.
>>580731993>you die in game you die in real life
why do you dislike transmog
they really skimped out on the main stage this year
I hope new races and class/race combos are a cash shop purchase just to see Blizzard spit on its fans.
retoilets won. they f*cking won bros...they played us like a fiddle and now we'll be seeing mass suicide in just under 2 hours.... why can't we be happy for once? it's over.
>>580732463i dont really give a fuck about playing dressup
>>580732463>upgrade item drops >lose roll to tranny who wants it to play dollie dress up
>>580732463Makes the world feel less authentic and meaningful.Makes it impossible to judge how geared somebody is at a glance
>>580732642Me neither. That's why I don't give a shit if other people have their fun with it. It's the definition of harmless.
>>580732691tmog roll?
>>580732463i want to mog natty
>>580732463
>>580732463Visual progression is just as important as power. There is a reason why people would afk in the center of town proudly showcasing a new weapon, piece of armor, or mount, and why it illicit strong emotions by people coming across them. Transmog ruins that.
>>580732463trannymog
TVC anniversary was honestly a bigger fail than sod. I really liked season of discovery, thought it was such a great idea and had the makings to be really fun, but after phase one, they just seemed to give up. In TBC anniversary, they did nothing really to make the player experience more memorable except selling character boosts for $60. Most people I come across tell me I'm insane for leveling a character all the way to level 70. Like I'm somehow some lunatic, and most people won't level a character at all because of how simply unfun isLeveling used to be one of the most fun parts of world of warcraft, like a beloved part of the classic experience. Now people despise it so much that they just want to spend $60 and complain about how bad leveling is and say how awful it is. In some ways, they are right. Leveling dungeons are really really bad, because of how bad other players are, and how badly balanced some classes areA druid for example simply cannot tank but I keep getting asked by people to tank. They have no threat, swipe doesn't generate threat, which is bad class design all on its own. At max level of course a bear tank is great in a raid but what about leveling dungeons? You literally cannot use bear to tank at all. It doesn't have the threatSome people honestly think that classic Plus has the making to be really great but I don't think it could ever be great. They failed TBC anniversary so hard
It's over for bros... retoilets are getting BARD and we're getting slop.
>>580732962i mean you can just stand in town with sulfurass anyways
>>580732889This is a whole different issue.>>580732962Oh yes, i love wearing my mismatched sets to display my gear progression
>>580732782So go do it in retail.We don't need faggots like you rolling need on dungeon items so you can play dress up
where can i watch blizcon ??????????????????????????????????
>>580733102https://www.twitch.tv/blizzard
surely c+ wont release in fucking NOVEMBER, surely its just a few weeks away
>>580732971>A druid for example simply cannot tankHoly fucking retard. I have tanked every single classic dungeon as a druid tank. It's so god damn easy to do. Easier than warrior.And max level bear is fucking awful in a raid compared to warrior. You have it completely backwards you donut
72 day timer flashed on screenconfirmed late november release
>>580733227Make the sylvanas bend over and take her cloak off.
>>580733227god this shit is so gay
>>580733101I literally just said I don't give a fuck about it, you illiterate brownoid. I also don't give a shit about other people choosing to do it because it doesn't harm me nor my enjoyment of the game in the slightest. And if it somehow harms your enjoyment of the game, you're definitely mentally ill.
vibe check
Are we getting GMs back for plooooos
>>580733557>I don't care about it at all>So we should put it in the gameVery good faith argument there
>it's real
Og vanilla players don't care what the nigger next door is wearing or looks like, the idea that your fellas must look a certain way is a retail idea by concept, or classic if you will.Real vanilla players are just happy to see their nigga looking their best instead of sweating that you can't see a nigger wearing a mind control helmet, or bitching about it even if you get a way to turn it off.
>>580733794>two shopshooooooly, where's my credit card
>>580733794you really think anyone is gonna be fooled by obvious AI like that in the big 26?
>>580733892>Source>My ass
Transmog compromiseLet us dye armor pieces so we at least dont look like a tranny flag
>>580733794home...
It's over the leaks confirm retoilets are getting KINO and we're getting some sloppy seconds that were quickly put together last few months
It's not looking goood ...
>>580733794but verdun wow does it for free
>we don't need transmo...
we are so fucked
Anyone find it a bit strange nothing has managed to leak about Classic+? Tells me it’s not very far in development.
>>580734367god i wish i was an obese manlet kike
>>580734363SOVL
>>580734367he was talking about 9/11
>>580734505Dog Strikers rise up!
>>580734412nda's have been super strong i think and the usual reddit mod trannies that would leak it are too busy on retail
>>580734087been telling you for months>>580734363>gives an example from retail to defend a retail feature
>>580734445my radar is so bad. it took 4 years for me to figure out hes from the classictribe.
>>580734412It has been fully leaked actually. You've just seen multiple theories and only one of them is correct.
>Blizzniggers excited to play an inferior version of Turtle wow with bots and rmt Daily reminder that Blizzard shut down Turtle because it was heads and shoulders above anything they’ve put out in years.
Last chance to make your leak claim so we can either praise you or laugh at you!
Do you think Blizzard has taken into account bag space/storage since if we get horizontal progression with different set bonuses so things don't powercreep TF/T3 as much we'll have like dozens of armor sets to hold onto?
>>580734412see>>580702517
>>580733240not during GTA 6 window, itll be mid october or early dec
Apparently that 72 day timer was real so classic+ will release thanksgiving
>>580734412I have a theory that leaks in the past were primarily done by Blizzard to hype up the upcoming expansion or server. If they don't want information getting out they're good about keeping it from the public
>>580734658yea you wanna be blind i get it but most of the wow devs are jewish and have always been
>>580729103https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lwOsX763N0Native american themed places in MMOs are always kino
retail gods are already laughing at us because we had no leaksthey saying shit like "loool not a single employee (probably like only 3 people worked on it) decided to leak anything about this "classic +" loool"they're right bros... it's not looking good for us
>>580734363I'm not seeing a problem here brother
>>580735012Did they say that before or after having one of their group yiffs?
>>580733097>Oh yes, i love wearing my mismatched sets to display my gear progressionYeah because you're a noob. You're a noob wearing scraped together junk you found from various monsters, quests and dungeons, and you look the part.Then when you finally get your full tier set you become an actual Hero.
>>580734363just toggle helmet off and its good
>>580734757No factions, Orc's ran away from Draenei and are actually a persecuted slave race vulgarly called "Noshoe" (it's as bad as the N word). Thrall meets up with Arthas and tells him "we dindu nuffin we wuz kangz" and they dap up and proceed to work together to build Azeroth into a progressive peaceful planet where they kill their enemies with kindness and cheer "Trans rights!"You will spend your days owning the chuds and culling those poor, stupid, so dumb they can't get voter ID, and racist Knife-Ear scum nazis.
>>580734823You don't risk breaking NDA with a multimillion (maybe trillions if you go up the ladder) dollar company. Even if you leak as anonymously as you can, there's a chance they find you.If they get you to court your life is completely fucked.Only chance at leaks is people who somehow saw something they weren't intended to see, and were never put under nda
my ploosy finna buss.https://youtu.be/k1t0A1cqGcwhttps://youtu.be/cUVNOI9rI5Uhttps://youtu.be/qL--teiBbzQ
>>580692514this is the most embarrassing OP I have ever seenquitting wow classic and moving to runescape
>>580735116I'm talking about raid gear since most of it is not optimal to wear together or many bis pieces come from off-set, you absolute bonobo.>Just wear the set why do you care if the stats are good?Isn't your point gear progression?
Remember guys, no matter what Blizzard ends up announcing for Classic Ploos we must shill it as the best thing to happen to World of Warcraft. We WIN. Retoilets lose. Pservers lose. Everyone else loses.
>>580735116I earned that gear, and I wear it proudly.Your position is so weak you are resorting to calling people noobs over cosmetics.You are just (you) farming
I'M A WHORE FOR THE HORDE
Soda is pumped for WoW??? GUYS ITS GONNA BE FUCKING AMAZING
>>580735324ironic links considering Cameltoilet has either warmode or forced PvP off with no factions.
>>580735324>world of propagandacraft given to us by the most stupidly OP pvp class in vanillaGarrosh was right, Warlocks are nothing more than putrid scum. All warlocks must die.
>>580735351That sounds like a personal problem if you're too focused on optimizing 1% DPS or whatever instead of wearing what you want
>>580735490Why do people give that unironic beta male so much pull?
>>580735640actually looks real
>>580735585It's often not 1% because vanilla sets are so bad but you don't play the game
When exactly is the announcement supposed to happen?
>>580735490>known gold buyer streamer faggot is excited to milk a fresh launch for donos and subs please kys
Battle.net launchers are updating with an unknown classic beta
New horizons leak picrel
>>580735663I was actually seriously concerned he was going to troon out once he started spending time in degenerate vrchat rooms and then made a vtuber loli avatar. If baldy never got him together with that pngslut chance might have actually became a tranny.
>>580735640>potato cameramust be reel
>>580735806Jeff Kaplan as the lead producer of HoTS2.
SHAMAN TANK ! CLASSIC +SHAMAN TANK ! CLASSIC + SHAMAN TANK ! CLASSIC +SHAMAN TANK ! CLASSIC +SHAMAN TANK ! CLASSIC +SHAMAN TANK ! CLASSIC +SHAMAN TANK ! CLASSIC +SHAMAN TANK ! CLASSIC +SHAMAN TANK ! CLASSIC +SHAMAN TANK ! CLASSIC +
>>580735575warlocks are mushrooms.
I wake up, last night there was an gnomer raid in my guild but i didn't go, i'm too good for them and i participated in high risk world PVP. I'm in stranglethorn, necessingwary camp to be exact, and what's that?! A lvl 28 warrior?! My hands are shaking, i haven't been this excited since i "Mechanically outplayed" someone in stonetalon while i was passing through. I don't know what to do he is only 12 levels below me, how am i ever going to win this duel. I cast a starsurge, the warrior still is isn't responding, he must be frozen in fear over my boldness to engage in this fight. Ooh i got a crit, i loudly screech OwO in real life and almost orgasm at my skill. I rush in to finish him off and establish my dominance and power over him. One moonfire proves to be enough, and he dies. I'm still shaking, thinking to myself: "I won, i did it, i'm the best pvp-er on this server". Then i see he still hasn't released and i start flapping my hands to the keyboard trying to reach the 'x' key, which couldn't be recognised, worn out from usage and covered in cheeto dust. I manage to hit 'x', i still have time. I quickly start spamming it, teabagging him. i keep spamming it again proving my superiority over this lower human being. I mount up on my mount, earned with gold purchased legitimately, and think to myself "I am so good at PVP".
>>580736002Making Paladins and Shamans reliable dungeon tanks seems like an absolute no brainer that almost everybody would be fine with.Still blizzard has dropped bigger and easier balls than that before
I want to play an ogre, surely after 20 years blizzard will finally make my wish come true...
>>580735842I mean he's an actual and unironic cuck.
>>580735575>warlock>most stupidly OP pvp class in vanillalol
even zoomers are getting so old it's too late for them to troon out and extract wealth from old ugly men
>>580734363if you have shit gear you look like a clown
What do we see from this blurry shit
>>580736362Look warlocks are pretty damn good. Warriors and Mages and debatably priests are still better.Soul Link lock specifically in pvp is s+ tier, but in other aspects of the game they get mogged by wars and mages. Affliction and destro locks aren't particularly op in pvp either, just pretty good.
>>580736362>2 decades of pservers>2019 classic>era>still thinks rogue is good in pvp against anyone but unaware undergeared keyboard turnersIt's already been proven, without a doubt, that warlock with soul link is disgusting broken in vanilla and they dont even rely on blowing 4+ 5-10m cds.
CAMELOT HYPEPREQUEL CONFIRMED
>>580736216i played shammy tank on a pserver and you genned threat with a talent that moved threat from totems to you, it was an avoidance tank because you had 0 active mitigation and relied on stoneskin + dodge from agi. i fear that blizzard will just give them shield block
>>580736680If you look closely you can see Ion snaping a fans neck in the background.
>>580736362warlock is by far the best pvp class vanilla.
>>580735575Warlocks were shit when he made the first video
>no matter how awful this annoucement is people will pretend its amazing like they did with SoD
>>580736680ask grok to upscale it
It's over. We cannot refute this.
>>580737089Impotent doomsayers be gone, only positive Chads welcome.
>>580736680gay centaur wedding ceremony wallpaper
>>580737176It was the splash screen which we've seen too much of, no need
>>580737089Conceptually SoD was good, and Phase 1 was some of the most fun I've had with WoW. Then it went downhill quickly.
What time is the announcement?
>>580737365main stage starts in an hour
>>580736903Nope. mage, warrior, and rogue are all stronger
>>580737089I already know this is gonna be shit, like everything Blizzard has made in the past 15 years. Yet we'll all still be there like the addicts we are...
>>580737342SoD COULD have been good.
>>580737571none of those can win vs a warlock.
>want to watch the twink but no multistream and twitch ads are cancer>forced to watch the swarthy mage on youtubedepression
The loading screen theme music was some L80ETC shit with the Dark Portal showing a concert through the haze. Lots of dancing undead in the audience.3 new races, 3 old1 new class and Demon HuntersRetail zones and instances revisitedBlood Elves and Ogres (H), Worgen and Vrykul (A), Goblins and Murlocs (N)Bard class, like the one from the April Fools Joke.Inspiration (Healing), Death (Minion-based DPS), Metal (DPS)New Warrior races: AllNew Paladin races: Undead, Blood ElfNew Hunter races: Human, Gnome, Undead, Blood Elf, Ogre, Worgen, Vrykul, Goblin, MurlocNew Rogue races: Blood Elf, Worgen, Goblin, MurlocNew Priest races: Blood Elf, Worgen, Vrykul, MurlocNew Mage races: Orc, Dwarf, Blood Elf, Ogre, Worgen, Vrykul, Goblin, MurlocNew Warlock races: Troll, Blood Elf, Ogre, Worgen, Goblin, MurlocNew Shaman races: Dwarf, Ogre, Vrykul, Goblin, MurlocNew Druid races: Troll, Worgen, MurlocNew Demon Hunter races: Night Elf, Orc, Blood Elf, MurlocNew Bard races: AllCataclysm, Outland, and Broken Isles zones blackported for Classic levels (some reimagined as starter zones, some leveling, some max level elite areas). New AU stories, for example Blood Elves now start in Netherstorm with the Horde forging an Alliance with Lord Illidan and Kael’thas.To balance out all of the new quests and dungeons, many old quests and areas are made elite and group-only.Face paints added to each race, including Scarlet, Cult of the Damned, Wildhammer, and sort of ‘Rocker Guyliner.’All BGs and arenas backported just with vanilla paint. Increased world PvP rewards including EXP. New 1-9 Warsong bracket.Non-canon. Very rock and roll boomer power fantasy. If it doesn’t come across as ‘badass’, it’s not being considered. Sorry helf fans. The idea of disabling gnomes was thrown around as a joke even but that’s not happening.
why are americans so fucking fat
>>580737803ever heard of adblock?
>>580737842Why are you so obsessed with us?
Scarlet challenge mode. Human only. Only friendly with other Scarlets. Hostile with everyone else. Some repeatable new quests at SM, Hearthglen, and Scarlet Enclave. Unlock things for retail via this mode. A Forsaken Royal Apothecary “Death to the Scourge and Death to the Living” themed equivalent is being developed for Q2 2027.
>>580737842car culture+natural gluttonous culture+refusing to eat real food
>>580737842im 147lbs
>>580737836>Tauren gets no new classes.>They lose exclusivity on horde druidsTaurens bout to go extinct. Maybe we should get centaurs instead
>>580737842Their food is poison (seed oil and corn syrup in everything), and their food portions are too high.
>>580737880adblock doesn't work on twitch, hasnt for a good year or two now. The only way is to VPN to a location that has laws against advertising as they dont get served ads.
what stream do i watch if i want to see a white pov?
>>580737342What was the concept and what was good? Level gating is bad, shrinking the content and world to one zone and dungeon is bad.
Kargoz won bigly.
>>580737836Blizzard!Hire! This! Man!
>>580738204works perfect for me and blocks all adds without any issue.
>>580738257thats the new heroes of the storm screen
>>580735575>>580736785>>580736903warlock beats all but 1 class in a 1v1.and the class it loses to, rogue, beats all classes.
>>580738204Clueless. You can block them but it sometimes drops stream quality to 360p during mid-rolls, and with ads each 30 mins or so you could argue it's not even worth watching. You can look at the github for twitch ad solutions in-case you still wanna watch that garbo site ad-free
>>580737836This sounds like someone asked an AI to make a boomer wow
>>580738257>Nu-ThrallDisney models in. It's over.
>>580738337not sure if retarded or trolling? a warlock can beat 2 rogues easily.
>>580738257can't believe they added jim raynor to classic+
>>580735575>>580736995This. You are outing yourself as not having played 2004. Warlocks are only good in 2019 because it released on the last patch of Vanilla.
>>580738304it blocks the ad, but it still shows a purple screen with "be right back" message and a minute long timer at random intervals with no input from the streamer so it could happen during a good moment.you probably just watch people who dont have ads like asmon
>>580738495guys with ribs dont want women
The new models won’t be the part I hate. It’ll be the bouncy ass Pixar animations they put on everything in retail. That shit is horrible and needs to be left in if not removed from retail.
>>580738449when talking about balance you assume that people have keyboards and monitors when they're playing the game. your anecdote of people afk on a smoke break doesn't matter.
>>580738598that doesnt happen to me the stream just drops to 480p when an ad is being blocked
>>580738598wrong, install adguard / adguard extra
>>580738438>outing yourself as someone who cant type a paragraph without chatgptKEK
I hope at the end of the trailer we get like a snippet or two of gameplay just enough to see the animations.
I hope they remove paladins we don't need another plate wearing class this is just silly.
>>580738736Nah, any sign of new models or modern graphics in whatever they are planning and I'm dropping it, don't care if it's optionali'd play even if they put pre-order mounts in that shit, but any modern graphics and it's over
>>580739014Warrior supremacy, Paladins must wear the dress.
>Classic but with retail models/DEI writing and a battle pass Why are people excited about this garbage?
what if they really dont announce classic+? can you imagine the outrage because people hyped themselves up over nothing but a new wow expac
Retoilers shitting their pants over Classic+ kino coming
My compromise with retoilet models is that I'll accept them if we get bodysliders
>soda talking about starting gambling on stream for moneyThings are looking grim. He's seen ploos and is now going straight down a hole.
>>580739148And give up edged weapons, a staff or mace is plenty enough while healing.
Blizzard are going to tardwrangle ebonhardt out of there soon because he is bored and going as close to leaking as he possibly can lol
>>580733664I don't like playing Undead in WC3, but I do play the other three races. Why would I need something to not be in the game just because I don't personally engage with it? Especially something as harmless as letting people customize their character in a way that they like.
>>580739360ill only accept retoilet models if there is a toggle to turn them off
There are xbox controllers at all of the demo stations for classic+ looooooooooooooooooool
>>580739254New red shirt moment incoming
>>580739439That's a battle you'll lose. They let do you do that when they were first implemented and then took the ability away
did I just watch someone claim that rogues beat warlocks in 1v1 pvp in vanilla?the grey parsing vg guild makes sense now
You know this company is dead when Towelliee isn't there in person.
>>580739102Okay grandpa let’s get you back to bed
>>580739254>holly leaked it months ago>there's an old school PC setup on the blizzcon stream right now with a CRT and the old school gray box pc toweryeah bro totally not going to be a classic wow announcement.
>>580739496im assuming they are gonna be playing some other shit ass demo for a console unrelated to classic
>>580739545They absolutely did before all the diminishing returns nerfs and normalization in 1.12 hell no.
>>580739545They have a chance if they hit the death coil with a shadow reflector.But like yeah lol, Soul link lock is eating rogues.Warlocks are only weak to rogues in wpvp, where they may not have the right pet out already to deal with them
>>580738598https://github.com/pixeltris/twitchadsolutionsuse something like violentmonkey to install the script
>>580739578classic for console bro. its over it just got leaked check twitter
>>580739324why would toilets be shitting themselves over the newest version of toilet
>>580739496>controllers for classic wowHow would that even work? Classic is all about interacting with the world and chatting with players in game. A controller is basically confirming the game will have auto ques and teleports. That’s not classic
We were warned months ago...
What stream are we watching? t. Vun
XBOX HYPE!
>>580739917>retoilet and cameltoilet will be ported to xtoiletgrim
>>580739739they've been adding controller support to retail slowly for years now. if it's finally done that's a good thing./yawn
>>580739831it's gonna be ascension style innit
doom titans will be winning bigly in less than an hour
>>580739881https://www.twitch.tv/alexensual
>>580739881watching the disgusting fat hairy mexican until the official stream starts
>>580739831This all just sounds like straight up bad fanfiction. So it's probably fake
>>580739545my favorite memory as an anni new player was watching a warlock sit and drink with a stealthed succubus in stranglethorn vale and an undead rogue attacking him only to get cc locked and killed then the gnome goes back to drinking
>>580739881ahlaundoh
>>580739831>>580740047thats what it sounds like. ill be immensely disappointed if thats what classic+ is. its going to devolve into one dominant class
>>580740037>>580739917and not having to rely on addons to make it work.
>>580740105could you be more specific
>>580740075doomgods are always right, we have 20 years of historical data to show it.
>>580739881https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knbSSHsoSq0official stream for me, no parasocials until later I don't want my first impressions to be biased.
When are they announcing it anyway
controller support has been a interest by even pc normoids since the release of the steam deck. console ports is good but it still makes things tedious as hell, proper out of the box controller ui would be nice even if i only use it for farming herbs
Reminder that Cameltoilet is announced in the "warcraft whats next part 2" thats 4 hours after opening ceremonyRetoilet announcements happen in part 1
I don’t necessarily want or need controller support but I won’t complain about being able to lean back in my chair and get cozy while farming some gold
The banners above the seating areas are classic themed. It's the disc box sleeve art for Vanilla.
>>580740381console players will request the game be balanced around them and their limitations like halo mcc on pc
What if cameltoe instead of cameltoilet
we are all watching with /our guy/ Xaryu right?
>>580740634Yes
inv to asmon layer!!!!!!
>>580740634asmon because he wont praise the lgbtq gay shit that gets announced
>Xbox port means Classic will be auto que wrath baby meta where no one talks of leaves the main cities and aoe down the entire dungeon That not classic and never was no matter what you wrath niggers say. Classic is all about traveling slowly through the world and having actual stake and time in something.
Is our boy asmongold watching BlizzCon?
>>580740593what if whiteman sniffing expansion
>>580740817yes he is and hes already called the preshow gay millennial shit kek
>>580740710He won’t play the game he’ll just complain about it to his audience of retards that never make it past level 30 anyways
>>580740634#rapexaryu
>>580740978xaryu got invited to blizzard so he wont shit on anything they show, asmon is actually going in completely blind
What if it turns out good actually?
>>580737836>Blood Elves and Ogres (H), Worgen and Vrykul (A), Goblins and Murlocs (N)Stopped reading here. They aren't adding Belves to the Horde again, nor will they ever make Murlocs playable.
>>580740817surely the life long fast food diet will catch up to him
>>580741180What if pigs fly?
Someone make a discord and let's all watch together
cametoilet!stinky
>>580741180>from the people who destoyed retail, classic progression, classic anniversary, sod and som.>THIS time it will be different, trust the plan.
>>580741295kys
Where do we watch blIZZCON?can somenone post Alex stream?
look mom I posted it again
>>580741295you watch shit together on cytube not groomcord
>>580741196I dont think they can add elves at all. Even if they are neutral they will be the most played race on each side. It will be retarded when you do wsg and get elves vs elves.Even adding the elves to alliance the "pretty faction" still they end up the most played as was shown on Turtle
We’re herehttps://twitch.tv/zackrawrrhttps://twitch.tv/zackrawrrhttps://twitch.tv/zackrawrrWe’re here
>>580741295i just watch asmon stream and chat with you anons here. though the 4chan discord server announcement for halo infinite a few years ago was fun
Whatever gets announced I’m rolling the sluttiest female melee dps and hoping I get plappies from my raid leader
BLIZZCON WATCHALONG DISCORDhttps://discord.gg/dGpHmkypqz
>>580741615https://www.twitch.tv/ahmpyhttps://www.twitch.tv/ahmpyhttps://www.twitch.tv/ahmpy
>>580741295https://discord.gg/AhTzTQszc
we're not joining your tranny discord
>>580741516Humans were actually the most played on turtle.
Why are trannies so obsessed with porn and sex fantasies? What causes this mental illness?
>>580741428
https://wowprivateservers.vercel.app/classic-plus/
>>580741497then make it
Hey guys. I haven't really touched World of Warcraft since the Shadowlands launch era, and I haven't really played anything Blizzard related other than a full run of Diablo IV when Lord of Hatred came out. I'm dialed out of Blizzard games right now.What is this Camelot thing I keep seeing mentioned from the thread? Where did it come from and what is it? Also, I heard some murmurings about Diablo IV news? Something to do with Demon Hunter?
Keep saying retoilets trying to tell us we'd totally HATE to see Lordaeron after 20 yearsIt's like they forget Era is still here and they're gunna keep rereleasing classic til the end of timeCamelot isn't just Classic with high elves and hyjal
>>580724078Olympic Face
>>580741615sorry wrong streamhttps://www.twitch.tv/nohitjeromehttps://www.twitch.tv/nohitjeromehttps://www.twitch.tv/nohitjerome
Where do I watch this shit live without commentator noise?
classic ploos NEED THIS
>>580742094battle net launcher
>>580742094https://www.youtube.com/live/knbSSHsoSq0
>>580741905>Why are men so far down the sexual fetish rabbit hole they fantasize about being women so obsessed with porn?
>GOYS I'M STRUGGLING TO FIND THE 100k VIEWER STREAM ON A WEBSITE THAT SORTS BY VIEW COUNT>GOYS WHERE ARE WE?>WHERE STREAM AT GOYS?
>>580741691which one you dumbasses linked two fo them >>580741718
>>580741941>What is this Camelot thing I keep seeing mentioned from the thread?It's their internal name for whatever Classic+ ends up being.
If it looks good I might basedcry like the star wars guy
I'm so excited :D
Let's share thread for once join forces, wowbro to wowbro>>580738079>>580738079>>580738079
>>580742190>88
>>580742303I see. How do we know about the term Camelot, a leak post?
>>580742361
>>580742361this is for classic nigger thats for retoilet
>>580742361nyo
> lon Hazzikostas confirmed to be involved with Classic+It’s actually over
>>580742361im watchwing/wowcg//wpsg/the /v/ threadAND even then I'll never touch your stinky thread
No sodapoppin no watch
>>580742461Some nigga "leaked">Era-Camelot live service for 2026>new RTS with an anime series>new arthas ARPG with a live action series in early 2025in summer 2026 a preorder for something called World of Warcraft Camelot that was linked to the new patch 1.60 client (that has had more builds than any retail WoW expansion has had) was dataminedNow they're selling Lordaeron stuff at the store and the stage is Lordaeron themedProblem is the Arthas game (probably made by the Witcher devs) is only getting teased this year with no room for a deep dive or anything, so the shit on stage is 99% for Camelot
I know most of you would put this landwhale to shame with your girth. You should be embarrashed. How does one let themselfs get so fucking fat?
aaaa the starcraft music
You will be watching an unfiltered reaction right and not from one of those shill streamers that signed an NDA months ago like Xaryu Sodapoppin etc...
>>580742745I appreciate you actually giving me answers to my questions. If you'll continue to humor me: >that was linked to the new patch 1.60 clientPatch 1.60 refers to what, a patch for classic WoW's client?
>>580742831food is yummy
>>580741941Camelot is the code name for a leaked retail mini-expansion, the first of its kind, essentially like the add-ons from FFXI. It's going to be level independent end game content.>>580742461They found the word over and over again in leaked documents.
>>580742831That looks like me 5 years ago before I became a shut in and an alcoholic and order ubereats for every meal, I'm surprised I'm even alive desu I look so much worse now
>>580742925New client, but based on the retail-derived classic client. Different download, so not the same client as Era/SoD
>>580742831>>580742962>>580743019>the unbuttoned shirt>the facial hair>the black clothes>all to hide how fucking fat he is>anything but eating less and working outlemao, he got snacks now. total fatso death.
>>580742831He is so awkward. He really thinks he is hiding that massive gunt.
8 MORE MINUTES TILL CLASSIC+
Get this faggot off my screen
>>580743120the shit fatsos do to hide their fat ass, as opposed to just losing weight. hahaha.
Epic memes like this are what gave us classic.
we're in herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev2XM2WsHrg
>>580743291thank you epic memes for giving me classic
>Still using in the same reddit tier thunderfury joke after all these years Why are reddit fags unable to come up with new or good humor?
Elliot Page as Arthas in the new Netflix show. Sorry guys
>>580742461this was leaked last augustso camelot has been in the works for at least 2 yearsits bigly
>>580743291what did he mean by this?
5 minutes lads!!
>>580735541RP-PVP servers will be thererogue gawds rise up
>>580743393Chuck Norris is so powerful he can dual-wield [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]. At level 1.
>>580743448Technically work started when SoD did since they weren't at all subtle at the end of SoD that it was an early test server for something bigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epYoKzjG96Mbased
>>580743448Did this appear before or after Camelot began showing up in datamines?
got food ordered anons what are you snacking on? I got pizza
We're watching Forsen
>>580743634before
I can't wait for nillers to seethe.
>>580742190Ass cleavage dresses are life.
IM GETTING CHILLS ALREADY kek
Camelot is just going to be rotating progressive servers for 'niller, 'BC and 'LK, it's called Camelot because it's a "round table".
>>580743634over a year before
>>580743634Long before. No one took it seriously until the datemine.
How will you cope when Cameltoilet is dog shit?
>>580743858its called camelot because were gonna cum a lot when we fuck your mom.
we hyped?finna make a guild for c++, we getting r1 speed clears
>>580743892will play another round of HC on a naked nelfie
total doomtranny death
>>580743634 it got leaked by some guy who said his wife got fired from blizzard and leaked it as revenge
>>580743939That's not how they pronounce Camelot in Arthurian times.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dviEWs_VIG4
>>580743892Honestly the only way it can disappoint me is if they trylike removing factionsadding vulperaadding shadowlandsno rp realmsinstant 60
SHUT UP YOU FAGS IT'S STARTING
CamelotbrosWhat will our strategy be if they don't announce Camelot today?
New Thread:>>580744016>>580744016>>580744016>>580744016>>580744016
PREPARE FOR DISAPPOINTMENT
>>580744079>early thread>anti threadyawn
NIPPLES PROTRUDING
What the fuck is this stupid thirdie yapping about?
>>580744967same shit every time10mins of PR woke shit at the start
