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>12.1 Curse of Ula’tek Out now!
>Midnight on 40% OFF sale now
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Why didn't you save him?
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god i wish i were my vulpera
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I will be dogging in to World of Warcraft: Forever on November 4th.
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I need an explanation for this shit and I need it fucking fast.

Actually, forget about it. Just reverse this.

Feed her now.
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>>580813274
Pig Merchant won
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Lifting the transmog restrictions is bad
Wrath remix is bad
Last names are bad
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I will be playing a Sky Elf Druid
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I think that deep down we all know what Forever is really all about.
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>>580813473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0xU3oCfAeI&list=RDC0xU3oCfAeI
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>>580813539
>deep down
nothing deep about what I just watched, they basically said it plainly
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Ion is crashing worlo with no survivors
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I have high hopes for Forever
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>>580813491
Not a fan because it should be silvery to match the blue/silver heritage
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>>580813652
Holy fuck those HIPS
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>>580813670
I fucking wish they'd do small modifications to the spells to suit each race. Non-human paladins slightly annoy me because it's so human flavored all the time.
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Forever camp system looks pretty wholesome ngl
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>>580813652
I'm still on the fence. One hand tauren guild might be fun. Other hand, it's monkey pawed Classic+
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>No new Demon Hunter races
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>nochesty inserting his ORCED fetish into everything again
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Should I hop back onto worlo now?
I just want to use the consoleport mod and do some Arms pvp and maybe farm my taeshalach
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>nochesty vagueposting about himself again
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They literally forgot about retail....it's literally over after they phone in tlt
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>/v/ tourist can't into runescape memes
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>>580813493
ozempic
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Was the big golem guy in the last titan teaser not the boss from ulduar?
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>>580813652
genuinely illegal hips
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>>580814178
It's a titan construct but we don't know if it's that one
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>>580814178
I must have missed the mile tall robot fight in Ulduar.
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>>580814178
No it's a different biggerer boss. We're going back to Northrend and Ulduar.
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>>580814178
He's like, 200 times bigger than XT
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>>580814178
Super giant robot that was sleeping under Storm Peaks and destroyed the zone when it awakened so that Blizz doesn't have to add it to the revamped continent.
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>nochesty farting and moaning on stream again
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>>580813830
>Easy way to stack aoe buffs for gathering professions
Bots are going to love these.
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>>580814368
>https://youtu.be/eyW5KMMDjZw
>ulduar was a part of wow metroplex all along
Ulduar heeds the call of the last titan?
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>>580814178
He is out for the tinkers
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>>580814529
>wander into bot campsite
>hey how you guys doing
>...
>...
>guys?
>(Message not sent. You cannot send chat messages while Silenced.)
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>>580813473
I'm going to ignore it.
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>>580814640
Don't worry they are going to set their camps underground or up in the sky
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>>580814178
>people think the giant mech is important
>in reality we're gonna kill it at the end of the introduction questline by flying around it while throwing bombs
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>>580814715
Honestly for the best, Trollanon.
We don't need you sabotaging the Horde team in the Echo Isle BG just to satiate your all-consuming lust for human cock.
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Is he still back?
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>>580814891
...Thats....
Well I-
...Hmmpf.
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>>580814891
With the lack of Draenei, the only cock on consideration is Troll or Gnome.
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>>580814971
He didn't even show his face at blizzcon. He was hired on to beg people to come back for the saga and nothing else. he hasn't done a day of work since.
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>>580815056
He did the voice over for the Forever gameplayer trailer.
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I want to play as a Thraegar. I'll settle for Thraegar customization options for Earthen, but I won't be happy about it.
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>>580815056
He shilled his table top game a little while ago, he's definitely not involved with wow after that initial announcement for the memesoul saga
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>>580815157
yo dawg we heard you liked reskins of races sold as allied races so we made a reskin of a reskinned allied race
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>>580813081
so is versatility not shit for arcane mages?
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>>580815157
This, and the dungeon, looks like a leftover from war within
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>>580815252
I'm going to be fucking pissed if it's just a TWW asset rehash with no goblin kino.
At least have a plot beat where we get the goblins to build us a giant fucking bomb to blast our way into the world soul chamber.
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>>580815157
CHAMPEEN
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>>580815157
I missed this, is it seriously another dwarf, and another earthen / crystal dwarf, at that?
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>>580815357
Who cares? Those are not going to be playable like ethereals or amani
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>>580815357
It's an Azerite Dwarf!
Very clearly different from Earthen!
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dwarf
nigga dwarf
rock dwarf
crystal dwarf
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>>580814774
>kill giant robot in the intro scenario
>one new zone is just exploring its corpse
would actually be pretty cool
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>>580815252
12.2 is the actual final patch of tww if it wasn't split into more expansions
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Did they remove autorotation yet?
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mage tier set looks good i think
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>>580815424
Don't forget those vitally important Ice Dwarfs in Storm Peaks!
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>>580815510
Rape
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>>580815510
Foxxo gets to fuck this? lucky...
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>>580815510
I disagree it's fucking hideous

>>580815534
Those are good tho? Old blizzard made them.
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love her!!!
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>>580815510
Eh, its alright.
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new races, new items, new cosmetics, new classes, new raids, new dungeons, are all just not good enough anymore. it's 2026. nothing lasts forever. not even nothing itself lasts forever thanks to uncertainty principle and zero-point energy.
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>>580815846
Sorry but if you add anything that actually changes gameplay in a fundamental way then players cry and call it borrowed power and whine about how it's ruining the game... somehow...
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>>580815678
him*
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>>580815846
Just play a different game if you want things to be different
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>>580815947
That's Holly's OC, she's definitely a female and every major wow npc is going to unconditionally love her from the onset.
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>>580815991
>why is my queue endless? how did this happen?!
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EXCUSE ME? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
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>>580816048
You namedrop like I'm supposed to know or care who that is.
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>>580816102
Oh another schizo green text huh
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>>580816192
You're the kind of retard who pretends not to know who Gabe is despite having 2,000 hours in TF2 huh.
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even Forever won't bring back a thriving EU guild dawg
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>>580816261
But not wrong.
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>>580813081
Professions updates?
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>>580816348
Gabe has the benefit of being active, memeable and more importantly, a grand contributor to the gaming scene in general for 25+ years.
By your response, I'm guessing whoever it is is one of the devs, at which point I'm not going to bother learning anyones names because the game is in such a state that I think most of them should be slapped anyway, and the company is in an equally stupid state of people being replaced left and right regularly, so why the hell would I know or care.
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Will GLOBOFOMO play Forever? I'm thinking creating NA account for it.
t. EUtard
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Will retail get secondary names too?
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>>580816584
basado
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>>580816048
If it's Holly's OC I want to fuck her even more now.
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>Doomjeet switched to using chatgpt to write his schizolarp replies
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>>580816646
Probably? That last name thing is rp server only
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We really should just be talking about furry homosexualiy that's more fun and interesting topic.
Azeroth has so much Yaoi potential it covers the whole spectrum.
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>>580816646
Let's hope not
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>>580815252
>ugh.... this TWW zone is clearly just repurposed Midnight assets!!
>ugh.... this Midnight zone is clearly just repurposed TWW assets!!
wow its almost like the locations in a trilogy will be visually coherent and not just all over the place. shocking
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>>580816871
Shh.. Sh... Logic has no place here.
Just let the Grummz fanboys tire themselves out
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>>580817114
I hate that guy. He creeps me out. There is just something very off-putting about that dude. I'm gonna need the gaming space to excommunicate this weirdo just so I don't have to be reminded they exist. Like if I read an article some day that said he had a frozen severed human head in his freezer or had at some point consumed fresh human flesh I'd just think "well that figures."
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Talebound actually looks like it'd be fun
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Am I too high right now or did they actually not show any gameplay at blizzcon.
Like, for anything.
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thread is dead as fuck meanwhile the forever thread is exploding. /wpsg/ is dead af too and what little discussion there is is for forever anyway lmao.


Forever is the future, it's the new wow, the new flagship. retail is officially the mazedfag containment server and pservers are just straight up dead.

Expect the Forever launch to be bigger than 2019 classic.
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>>580817385
you're supposed to tune into sodapoppin's stream for the gameplay
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>>580817454
I didn't realize there was a forever thread, thanks. Bye
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>>580817385
Just watch any of the streamers that are playing Forever or just wait until Thursday next week
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>>580817297
Looks better than the shitty plus
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>>580817454
This anon is probably correct. Like I'm thinking the odds are ~80% this is the reality.
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>>580817454
Well yeah, there was a clear main announcement at Blizzcon. TLT isn't ready to be shown off and 12.2 isn't anything surprising or all that exciting.
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>>580817454
Forever is dead after a couple of months when people realise the only content they add is more endgame raids for the raid logging troons.
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>mfw the RL starts mansplaining what went wrong last pull
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>>580817896
Two more weeks!
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>>580817941
Ironic...
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>>580817454
I genuinely wish I saw what you lot do with Forever.
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>>580817987
it's called shitposting lil blud
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>>580817987
It's different.
It's home.
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>>580817987
it's something new
that's basically it
same shit happened when conquest of azeroth launched and people were hyping that shit when it was literally just retail lite
classic players are so starved for something that any crumb blizzard throws them will get you this reaction
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>>580817896
Yes but until then the amount of damage inflicted internally on wow's community and playerbase will be incalculable. Just like every other major failure ... like when all the streamers went over to XIV and purposely made a big show of it.
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>>580817987
retoilet devs are wasting time creating dogshit like hide and seek prop hunt, blunderstorm and now some dogshit blunderstorm 2 only troons will play because they attached a mount reward to it
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>>580818257
>like when all the streamers went over to XIV and purposely made a big show of it.
Wow it's fucking nothing
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>every gachapon machine at blizzcon has a staff member with a stack of boxes next to it to refill as people crouch underneath them to drain it mid refill

i feel like the spirit has been been drained so drastically by allowing people to just sit there going this hard you might as well cut out the middle man of "playing" the gambling game and just sell the boxes at a flat rate
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Now that we know the Worldsoul Saga is the end of the Retail WoW storyline, looking back - what were your favorite moments of the trilogy?
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>>580818419
this is just the millenial version of that webm of boomers in a line hitting the slots, millenials just managed to find a way to make it take more steps while & less sense while being more awkward and embarrassing for literally everyone involved
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>>580817896
This is honestly the only thing holding me back, i don't like how time consuming raiding is and is that really all people do at max level in classic?
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>>580818643
most raids in classic don't take longer than 1 1/2 hours
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>>580818616
>Boomers waste their kids inheritance on gamba
>Millennials waste the money they will never spend on kids on gacha
Who is the greater evil?
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Alright fuck it, I bought the warcraft 3 reforged expansion for 2 tokens. A bit under 600k.
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no one accepts me for rlp +11 :(
i only do rlp
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>The Slop Titan is autmn 2027 at the earliest

grim
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>>580818419
Join my group, I've been sitting here for 3 minutes.
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I'm absolutely in love with how my character looks right now in her new transmog
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>>580818952
The fuck were you expecting, Midnight to last 7 months?
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>>580819042
Omg.
Twin.
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>survival hunter is melee in wowf
very cringe
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>>580818952
If 12.1.7 has winterveil updates then 12.2 is only in 2027? I guess they want people playing forever until then
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>>580818954
cant bro im dk
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>>580818643
You raid log for your buffies and speedrun naxx
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>>580818952
You're saying that like a 1.5 year expansion is longer than normal.
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>>580819206
Sucks anon. I had an arcane mage and arms warrior, was hoping you'd be a shadow priest or at least a bm hunter...
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>no gnome or goblin paladins
My wife always wanted to play her DnD character that was an extremely Jewish fem goblin paladin that got more powerful the more gold she was carrying.

She's denied her necromancer and now this?
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>>580819140
>x.x.7 patch is kinda nothing
>s3 is 5 months away (we're only in week 4 of s2 out of like 24)
First retail season friend? This is fucking normal and has been for years at this point.
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>>580819112
Why can't they just make Survival the Dragoon spec?
>Can tame Dragonkin
>Polearm
>Lots of leaps and jump attacks
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If i wanna play the whole story is it worth it to start with WoW classic to do all zones and the defias thing and onyxia and yada yada and then move to retail for TBC, Wrath, etc. and specially Cataclysm?

Because i read 99% of Cataclysm is just "new stories and new looks" for every zone, is it actually worth it to do ALL zones again?
Or am i better off skipping the classic stuff and just doing the revamped zones?
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>Most important announcement was that Forever is running on a new engine

So that means we can finally have more than 6 people in a area and not get weird network bugs and glitches
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>>580819382
>My wife always wanted to play her DnD character
Well she can play dnd right now
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I'm playing the Forsaken Kingdom campaign in WC3 and it's becoming very clear that retail's writers are some group of insular psychopaths that despise Warcraft and don't let anyone remotely talented touch the game as it gets in the way of them killing it
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>>580818952
Wait does that mean it's been delayed? If you follow the 6 month patch cycle it should be dropping in August which is in the summer.
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>>580819693
everything in Retail has to go through a council per their union contract. That's why the council has been able to strong arm what gets added into the Game.

That's why Ion said fuck it and is going all in on Forever that's not part of the Union Contract.
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midnight season 3 comes with undead and night elf paladins lol
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>>580819773
>and is going all in on Forever that's not part of the Union Contract.
That's terrible news they are going to get fired asap
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>Area 52 blood elf ret pally dies 3 times before the first boss in murder row
>Attacks guard captain before tank has agro
>Stands in fel wyrm shit... twice
>Start on first boss and he dies again from not using defensives
>Gets rezzed
>Immediately gets hit by the nibbles cone(lmao)
>Vote abandon
>"Oye, amigo, no parece que hayamos usado la pistola"
>Tell him we used the egg
>Its not his fault, its because we didn't use the pistol

Please Blizzard seperate them like you do euros. I can't take it anymore!
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>>580819530
Just wait for Forever, it's going to become the new definitive version of the game and all of the lore and story bullshit from TBC onwards is gonna be soft-retconned.
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So wowf is free if you don't care about playing sky elves?
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>>580819853
>we used the egg
Grim and euro servers are not segregated.
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>>580819930
still need a subscription
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>>580819801
As a straight white lawful good human male paladin, I am okay with taking a female night elf paladin wife
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I don't really understand the new roguelike game mode, are you actually getting wow darkest dungeon?
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>forever thread has 100 new posts in the time /wowg/ has 5
lmao retail is cooked

it truly is The Last Tortanic.
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>>580820420
>new announced thing has people talking about it than thing that got barely any new announcements on the day big announcing event happens
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>>580820420
>The Last Tortanic
So it's still going to be around 15 years later and still receive updates?
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>>580820674
Maybe
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>>580820674
pretty blood elf
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Are we getting anything good tomorrow or did they blow all the load today?
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>>580820731
>>580820674
>tfw to ofried for posting
BROS
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>>580820578
More like, become completely irrelevant, only played by a handful of weirdos obsessed with its specific bullshit.

aka, retail is about to become the irrelevant mazetranny containment server
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>>580820801
The manlet guy mentioned a deep dive tomorrow at the end of the eclipse panel
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So what happened to the sky elves in retail's timeline? Did they crash?
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>>580820960
Deathwing killed them
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they got killed by the haran*r
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>>580820960
Genocided by Al'akir probably. Or they just add them as an allied race and go
>oh yeah they were always here they just uhhhh got busy after classic
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>>580820960
They don't exist because forever is not canon.
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>>580821059
but it IS Forever
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>>580821105
The name is FOREVER not CANON
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>>580820960
Where do you think the Blood Elves are if not part of the Horde?
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>>580818952
i want to be able to play as a troll that looks like the amani trolls damn it
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>>580821059
>he doesn't know
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They could have added High Elves for Alliance and Blood Elves for Horde, and then added Ogres for Horde and Draenei for Alliance
Why does every iteration of WoW need an OC Donut Steel race
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I'm considering leveling multiple characters in retail, is it too difficult? Is it worth it?
I dunno how long it would take to level multiple alts
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Forever is canon mainline warcraft. retoilet is disposable noncanon trash like warcraft adventures and the old RPG books. Cope
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>>580821149
The Blood Elves are in Space, no the Sky.
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>>580821219
Alternate timeline, they're not with Illidan sucking off demons anymore.
They're in the sky, sucking off air elementals.
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>>580819343
we ball, had a minute left LMAO
RLP CHADS ONLY
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>>580820808
i better be getting these customization options in retail motherfucker
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>>580821298
Hmmm.
Isn't that much smarter?
Why didn't they just eat Al'akir in the first place instead of sucking off felhounds behind the dark portal dumpster?
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>>580821357
You got $30?
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>>580821182
you simply need to accept that elves sell and sell bigly. elves are the most popular playable race in every iteration of wow and have been for a very very long time now. you probably have to go back to actual vanilla to find a time where some kind of elf wasn't the most popular race.

you can make a million arguments about ogres or goblins or whatever being better thematically but that is all meaningless in the face of the reality that people want to play sexy elves, simple as.
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Remember when Ion lied about racial silhouettes following Pandaren
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>>580821505
meaningless in that this is literally a blood elf and requires 0 work for them lol
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>>580821417
Because their leader was Kael'thas, the absolute biggest fuck up idiot character in the franchise.
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>>580821182
here's why faggot *just fucking BLASTS a 6 second fart so violent all over your crybaby post that i nearly shit my brains out*
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>>580821580
that's just a bonus for them, if they had to do work to make sexy elves playable they would do it because they bring in the cash. having existing sexy elf assets they can implement with barely any work just makes it an even bigger no brainer.
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>>580821554
>These elves are totally different
>The Alliance ones part their hair to the right while the Horde ones part their hair on the left.
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*rips bong*
I got it: Sky Elves!
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You want to play as sexy Elves.
I want to play as sexy space goats and green shortstacks.

We are not the same.
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>>580821182
Because Ion personally hates high elf fans because he hates white people.
As long as he is involved with WoW, Alliance high elves will never exist.
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>>580821680
i love you
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>>580821602
these posts always make me kek at night and annoy my wife
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>WHY? Why are femal2 elves so popular????

Kek. Gays still can't understand this after 20 years. Female Blood elves came out in 2007
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>>580814715
Why are you doing that?
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>>580821712
Pretty much every single character in my account is a fem gobbo. Sometimes I wonder about making a character with something a bit more thematic instead of sticking to the same race across everything, like maybe a troll warrior or a human rogue, something RP fitting. But I just end up going fem gobbo.
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I fucking hate people that want tuskar.
Faggot ass basedboy millennials like Nixxiom and Jessie Cox that see a fake semblance of masculinity in their own fat hairy form in the tuskar.
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>>580821936
do your fem gobbo like velf cock
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>>580822108
I want a broken. I've always wanted a broken shaman for some reason, what does that make me?
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>>580822108
I want them because it'd make people seethe getting griefed by a fisher mog tuskarr
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>Have to come up with a last name now, too
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>>580822247
Do you have to do that or is it optional? I already have my real first name. I dont want to put my real last name too. Then theyll find me on linkedin
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>>580822247
It makes it easier to make a name.
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Why do we have to wait until 12.2.5 for transmog restriction lift aaaaaa
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>>580822347
Why are you even using your irl name too begin with you dumb ass BRICK
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>>580822413
fuck that it's 400% the difficulty
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>>580822448
Too busy changing offensive animations
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>alliancetroons still seething after 20 years
belves will always be a horde race, if you play a velf in retail or a skelf in forever you are playing a horde race.
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>>580822347
>opsec level -5000
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>>580822459
I want to play human warrior and self insert in Forever bro
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muh dikk
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>>580822525
They literally do nothing BUT seethe endlessly over shit that happened 20 years ago. It's fucking tiresome.
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If i were to buy 1 month of WoW suscription how easy would it be to buy a wow token with in game gold for more months?
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>>580821323
We should do a 12 twin
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>>580821936
Based Goblinchad
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>>580822686
Depends entirely on how hard you farm materials. You probably won't be making that much because it's later into the expansion though.
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>>580821554
>Remember when Ion lied about racial silhouettes following Pandaren

My favorite was how the devs said "We can't add High Elves because they are a very small population" and then they went and added Void Elves which are like 10 dudes exiled from Silvermoon who did a ritual to turn purple lmao.
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>>580822791
There's definitely a plaque at Blizzard HQ that reads 'NEVER GIVE THE ALLIANCE PLAYERBASE WHAT THEY ASK FOR'
Possibly bordered in gold, highlighted by spotlights and guarded by highly trained ninjas at all times.
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>>580822247
Just name yourself Six Seven
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>>580822909
That's gay zoomer shit. Just name yourself The Game
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>>580822478
How? It opens everything up.
Pick name you like, stick some dumb shit on the other side, and bam, the create button actually works.
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>>580822968
because if you want it to mean something or not be stupid then now it's twice the difficulty squared.
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bro can i just fucking melee?

>start a pull
>aoes in melee range, get out
>aoe stun
>disorient
>more aoes in melee range, cant stand there
>gotta go interrupt the caster 30yds away
>aoe disorient
>everyones rooted
>knockback
>more aoes in melee range

JUST LET ME FUCKING STAB STAB GOD DAMNIT

i swear to god this game is only designed for and tested by mages. you have 90% fewer mechanics when you can dps from more than 10 feet away.
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>>580822247
I saw some funny wow/ff names in OG during the WoW exodus.
Ysera Yunalesca was probably my favorite.
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>>580822686
Depends on a lot of shit. If pic related is your highest level character then probably not easy at all.

If you have cap level characters, then it can vary from pretty easy to difficult. Depends if you know what you're doing, which you obviously don't or you wouldn't be asking. If you have no clue, you'll have to get lucky stumbling into a method that works for you (which is unlikely right now) or you'll have to put in the hours like someone working at worse than min. wage gathering herbs and ores.

For the method I use, it's pretty easy, the setup is already all done, and I can make way over a token per month with little to no input from my part nor time invested. But I also understand what the fuck I'm doing, you'll have to gather your own experience with time because nobody is going to give you what works for them in an environment where more people doing something = bad.
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All the doomers are seriously pissing me off and scaring me even, I love WoW retail i don't want it to die down i never got the chance to play all expansion stories yet and do all content and i barely have the time to play this year so hearing retards go "AFTER LAST TITAN WOW WILL CLOSE! END OF SERVICE! NOW IT'S WOW FOREVER TURN WITH IT'S 30 USD RACE!" pisses me off.
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If i ever play wowo forever and create another fucking human male on reflex i'll kill myself
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>>580823132
You can thank m+ for this kind of design
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how much money do I got to spend to get in on the name reservations?
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have you tried not playing a human?
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>>580823239
Stop listening to retards
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>>580823239
I mean, you had 20 years to play this slop. I dont know what to tell you, this seems self inflicted.
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Lightsmith is neat and all but Divine Exaction+Bulwark of Order is just such a safety blanket...
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>>580823278
There are no name reservations.
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All I want is my comfy fantasy game with my cute fantasy purple women. There's no deeper meaning to it than that.
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>>580823132
yea I'm only gonna play melee that can have at some decent uptime even when forced out of melee like enh, unholy, ret, and surv
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>>580823214
>>580822767

But what's the price of WoW tokens cuz i'm trying to check online and people say between 200k and 400k gold. Isn't that easy to get? Or am i not taking into account the fact that even if i were to get that amount, i'd probably be spending it on mounts, potions, etc. i'd need to play the game so i would run out of gold?

Because i'm lvl 16 on free trial and just finishing the Pandaren monk starting zone and i have 57 gold, if i could get 57 gold in 16 levels by playing just like 2 or 3 hours a day then getting to 400k doesn't seem hard
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>>580823378
Yes there are
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>>580823239
I've been playing WoW for the past 18 years, and frankly if you can't see the writing on the wall, then I don't know what to tell you. The fact that they're lifting transmog restrictions next patch and advertising a "forever" version of Classic implies that Retail is going to be getting the same treatment sooner or later. When you take into consideration the way they announced three expansions all at once, yeah, it only becomes more and more obvious.
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>>580823523
No, there's a beta that will be wiped and no early access window.
There's no name reservations.
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>>580822686
I make two wow tokens per month just conc alt farming but you're probably not going to know how to level that many characters that fast in a month so you gotta try decor crafting fucking SLOP never fucking sells bro don't listen to these youtubers
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>>580823565

Is "the writing on the wall" the new version of "the walls are clossing in for donald trump"?
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>>580823239
lol ok doomer
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>>580823706
Shut the fuck up you yurotrash cuck faggot.
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>>580823239
why would they stop retail?
their entire strategy is diversifying their games so everyone gets to play exactly what they want
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>>580823239
>20 years of dealing with blizzard mistakes
>finally something comes and undoes all those mistakes in one fell swoop
>"but muh MOUNTS CHEEVOS"
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>>580823278
60 dollars
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>>580823565
>and advertising a "forever" version of Classic implies that Retail is going to be getting the same treatment sooner or later.
Retail is going to be getting dozens of free content updates every single year with no new expansion box price?
Yeah, I guess I can see the writing on the wall.
It says "WoW won."
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The same people spamming these days about WoW 2 got shafted with an extremely hated "Classic + with 30 USD elf races" so they are lashing out by spamming about how WoW retail is gonna die.
Remember people also spammed WoW was gonna die when Classic came out.
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>>580823506
About 260k. If you level up a character from scratch you'll probably end up with about 70k out of the whole journey but that's a one time thing unless you just keep making and levelling up new characters in which case you're probably making less gold per hour than what is usually considered the worst gold making method (gathering).
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>>580823706
The writing is the fact the world consumes ~100,000,000 barrels of oil per day and is only producing ~70,000,000 due to the wars in the middle east and so it is very likely that we will all die of starvation or fighting over food next year when society crumbles when people can no longer afford to feed themselves. So I guess then the answer is yes. Haha. Funny how that works. :D
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>>580823618
Stop lying, dumbass
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>>580813830
i can already see spergs monetize this
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/v/ros /wowfg/ is laughing at us right now
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>>580823706
WoWs been dying since vanilla according to doomerists. Any change is bad but no change is also bad. You can't make everyone happy. What some people like others will use as proof of the game being moments away from shutting down.
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>>580823943
thanks JE!
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>>580823838
damn that's a lot of money for leeroy jenkins
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as a relic i can safely state that forever looks like a retail expansion for classic, thus it smells like dogshit
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>>580823910

OH MY GODDD shut the fuck uppppp how many tims do we have to tell you this????

Do you know what happened after Garrosh declared war on the Alliance and on the non orc races of the Horde? NOTHING, nothing happened, all forgotten.

Do you know what happened after Sylvanas started a war and betrayed eveyrone? NOTHING, nothing happened.

So Trump invading Iraq or whatever muslim country he's taking oil from right now won't end shit.
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>>580823132
Thats why I gave up and only play tank now. Dps isn't worth it unless you play as some gay ass ranged class
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damn, he almost stabbed the world soul
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>>580823239
They won't end of service retail. They'll just rotate mythic plus dungeons and raids. Thats the only thing retail folks want to do
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not a single soul asked for wrath remix btw
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Just realized I was supposed to do a massive massive pull with BL on rlp oops, maybe I should look up routes beforehand
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>lifted restrictions for armor types
>mages will be able to transmog plate and so on
Tier set mogs will still be locked to classes though... right?
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>>580824379
>Xal'atard gets in
>Does nothing
So sick and tired of the six million excuses this whore has
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>>580824379
>cervix_penetration
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>>580822347
lowkey I might just do my irl name cuz that's funny asf
someone stalking you on linkedin
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>>580824532
brother they have been phoning in retail lore bigly since 2023 when they decided to make Forever the new flagship.
Retail lore is basically just whatever bullshit they can whip up to crank out more mazed+ for the addicts.
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>>580824457
yea they should just have regular wotlk tw swap between icc and ulduar or something, give us bfa
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>>580821208
Leveling is easy. Nobody can tell you if it's worth it or not. Winds of mysterious fortune buff is active until Sept 22 which gives a 20% xp buff plus 10% xp potions lootable from quests. Cataclysm timewalking is from the 15th to the 22nd so you can powerlevel through dungeons. Every character you get to level 90 gives a 5% xp buff for leveling alts up.to 25% I believe. So this upcoming week after reset is going to be the best time to level for a while.
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>>580824676
only worthwhile things from wrath remix would be time-lost proto drake and the monkey in the pink bubble toy
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>here's retail with m+ and raid
>here's retarded retail without m+ and 6 new quests and new race quest for 29.99
>still no human shaman
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
gotta wait for updates i guess
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>>580824532
Is trannytath going to impregnate the worldsoul with his/her void sperm?
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>>580824532
there's a small chance she will succeed at fucking azeroth's soul and we are going to unfuck it in last titan
>xalatoes fucks world soul, thus it gets critically corrupted
>algalon wakes up in Ulduar, sees on his celestial monitor that azeroth reached defcon 1
>he sends out the signal we stopped in the raid in wrath to wipe out all life
>signal activates the titan robot kaiju and other shit across azeroth so we head to northrend to stop it all
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Level 1 Tauren Rapist will stop her.
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why should i buy tlt? it's clear that blizzard is setting up forever as the future of wow, like jagex did with osrs. i don't want to waste money on a game with no future
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why are we not getting kul tiran paladins
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>>580824417
This. They'll just stop actively developing it, which frankly is more than you lot deserve to begin with.
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>>580824938
kultiran and voidelf paladins next expansion
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>we have Azshara at home
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Hi i would like Human Shaman, Human Druid, Human Demon Hunter and Human Evoker added to the game.
Thank you, goodbye.
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>>580824938
no one cares about the fat fuck tirans lets be real
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>>580825019
It's her quirky wholesome chungus daughter.
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>>580825039
>I would like more humans
Yawn. I'll take the elves
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>>580825039
mexican coded post
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It's WoW 2 and we don't even know. Thanks, norf.
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bros...
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>>580825039
Same. I hate playing as something thats not my race or gender. Its gay
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>>580824938
>>580825003
The biggest failing of pally customization is not getting different colored Light effects. You should be able to switch from yellow (standard) to red, blue, orange, etc. spectra as easily as transmogging..
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>>580825039
I just want them to let evoker visage forms be any race.
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>>580824457
>you will anima farm until you are 87
>you will spend 4 days putting a warfront group together and get a duplicate of the piece you already have
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>>580825239
and you are a waste of space irl so you afk in northshire all day right?
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>>580825039
This
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>>580825206
Just watch towilee or whatever. Hes streaming right now
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>>580825317
>you now earn 500% more anima
>you can now solo queue for warfronts
it would be so easy
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hmm does classic+ mean that arthas is alive in that game?
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>>580825497
forever retcons everything post vanilla.
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>>580825497
the game plays right after wc3
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>>580825497
Yeah he'll be alive forever since you're just a shitty adventurer now instead of the hero of azeroth
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>>580825580
It retcons everything before Molten Core you mean
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>Millions of stories they could tell with the established characters and races of Azeroth
>NAH LOL FUCK THAT LET'S MAKE SOME OC DONUT STEEL BLUE ELVES AND FOCUS ENTIRELY ON THEM INSTEAD
So much for a clean slate.
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>>580825608
>Yeah he'll be alive forever
BASED
LK never should have died or even been approached, eliminating the scourge as a faction did untold damage to the warcraft setting. LK should only exist in the background as a godlike powerful force.
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>>580825204
>mfw called it
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What did Ion mean by "save Azeroth one last time" when talking about TLT? Is wowo over? What will happen to my tmogs, mounts, and cheevos?
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I love CE raiding but I truly clasp my hands and pray to god that they announce eos/longtermsustainability after TLT as Forever becomes the new WoW 2
I want to be free of hoping the next patch will be better
I can't stand what retail has become. terrible classes, terrible raids, M+ went from a core pillar of the game to a fucking chore I hate as much as world bosses
let the retpaladin dad gamers and retail cazztards win. Blizzard clearly holds people committed enough to use warcraftlogs in contempt so just stop making raids at all
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>>580825796
It means Kael'thas is alive, too.
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why are people hyped for Forever when it looks like a retail expansion with a thin paint of vanilla
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>>580825825
It means Ian is tired and ready to retire. Even hes tired of making shitty Mythic plus
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>>580825721
even ascension did better
all of their new quests were expanding on old zones or adding new lore to existing races, instead of inventing new shit that nobody had apparently ever noticed before but had totally always been there guise
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Which class fits each expansion the most?
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Just call it World of Elfcraft at this point, delete all other races. Also why did the Skyborne never appear in retail? Were they canonically wiped out before anyone got to know them? Did Deathwing wiped them off the map when he emerged? Seriously, how do they justify a complete asspull like this that only exists in Azeroth Forever?
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>>580825890
Every major WC3 faction head hero should not have died for the same reasons as LK. If extremely powerful faction heads are getting personally involved in events it should be apocalyptic level shit going down. They should not be loot pinatas for the current expansion to be immediately forgotten the second a new expansion is released.
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Just 3 more years until starcraft pre order for marine transmogs in wow!
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>>580825961
Druid and paladin are the protagonists of wow
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>>580825961
>vanilla
holy priest
>tbc
holy priest
>wrath
holy priest
>cataclysm
disc priest
>pandaria
windwalker monk
>wod
feral druid
>legion
holy priest
>bfa
shadow priest
>shadowlands
disc priest
>dragonflight
preservation evoker
>tww
shadow priest
>midnight
holy priest
note: I have never played a priest in my life
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>>580825961
whatever
belf mage
human dk
whatever
panda monk
orc warrior
nelf dh
whatever
whatever
drac evoker
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>>580825940
The DEI hire woke millennial white women don't care about pre-existing canon to work off of, they just want to make their shitty OC race and force them into canon. Just look at Haranir.
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>>580825963
It's a different timeline so things can just happen differently. In retail maybe those high elves never split and became skyborne, or they just never revealed themselves and then got wiped by something, the options are infinite
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>>580825721
>FOCUS ENTIRELY ON THEM INSTEAD
That's not even the case
>>580825940
We are still getting things like this

You people just make shit up to get mad at, absolutely schizophrenic
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>>580826464
Yeah it's not like there's literally two decades worth of data to pull from to know that this will be the case
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I'm just underwhelmed man, Warcraft Forever is fine but it's kind of mid, nothing really moved me, the elf race actually soured it for me.
Retail has nothing interesting, every "lore reveal" was shit we all knew before.
I like more paladins, but I don't get why Darkspears got it and I say this as an official troll lover.
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>>580826464
They're mazed+ addicted retoilet trannies desperately trying to shitpost Forever to death in a futile attempt to stave off the inevitable decline and irrelevance of retoilet.
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seriously, what odds do you give it out of 10 that TLT is actually the retail EOS entirely?
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god i wish i were my dracthyr
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>>580826283
It's honestly retarded because velf customization options are currently shit, probably one of the most limited races in the game in terms of customizations but now this asspull race using the same models will get new never-before-seen hairstyles and color and accessory and paint options?
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>do my 1 key a day
>perfectly curated group
>leader takes their time
>Voidscar key is perfect until the last boss
>last boss is a DPS tester
>if DPS don't know mechs, you aren't timing this
>low and behold, DPS don't know mechs of this boss
>they are running to portals that are so far away that they just die
>they don't group them up even though they are told twice by 2 different people

fucking retards.
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whats the point if it doesnt have delves
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>>580826558
>I don't get why Darkspears got it

No reason not to get it. They got Druid because they were taught by the Tauren, they could have easily have been taught by the Zandalari since both trolls worship the Loa of light.
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>>580825825
There is no Azeroth sized threat anymore after this. Void lords died off screen, Dimensius was the last. The Burning Legion is in disarray, the Titans probably all die (this time for real) same with Xal'atath.
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>>580826592
It won't be a full on EOS but retail will almost certainly recede to the background. I would say they probably will do away with the expansion system entirely instead focusing on occasional patches for mazed+ and whatever other content people want out of retail.

Forever has huge potential to eclipse the popularity of retail and if that happens everything I said and more is virtually guaranteed.
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>>580817285
grummz is literally a sex pest failed male who had a party stripper bus for his failed game because he could not contain his low t
so yes, you are correct for being creeped out by him
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>>580826592
7/10 odds
They'll make one final "expansion" that acts like Forever, possibly an entire world revamp for the sake of it that adds some of the extra shit they added to the vanilla zones, and then be done with it
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>>580826702
Hmm let me rephrase, it makes sense, but I feel like Kul'Tiran, Velf and Worgens would've been better pics to go alongside it all, still even with that I feel like there just ain't much
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>>580826592
0/10.
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Forever has me interested but I'm suspicious of Blizzard following through long term. They are easily distracted by new shiny thing, do good for a bit then just let it fade away.
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>>580826592
Basically guaranteed, even if Forever fails. Retail, especially post-Dragonflight, is sort of out of ideas. Its just a treadmill of the same unsuccessful grindy shit over and over and over and over.
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Do you get mythic crests for killing the nemesis delve every week or just the first time?
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>Uhhhhh we can't show you anything about TLT because uhhhhhh STORY SPOILERS OKAY!?!?
As if Xal'atard won't "win" in Midnight and then we're forced to clean up her mess
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>they are adding troll, undead, and night elf paladins
its a slow process but, eventually, even the furry races will get paladin...
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>>580826592
0/10, very unlikely. Somehow we've had classic -> MoP edition survive for half a decade. I doubt they'll abandon retail anytime soon.
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>>580826738
>they probably will do away with the expansion system entirely
>1 game sells a box every year and a half
>1 game sells an mtx for less than the box
the iq level in this thread gets worse every year i swear to god
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>>580826935
Dragonflight is ironically the last expansion that actually felt like an expansion with an actual cohesive narrative
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>>580826981
I feel like we kick her ass but then she becomes a cutscene superhero and absorbs/merges with the Soul then flees to Northrend or something I dunno. It's gonna be eye rolling.
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Im actually insanely hype for classic+
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>>580827159
Blizzard makes fuck all on expansions, are you kidding me? All of their money is based around subscriptions.
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>>580826935
even worse than the gameplay is the story, they are beyond out of ideas on that front and they can't even paper over the gigantic cracks anymore. even the biggest wow simps ridicule the laughable modern wow lore now, I can't think of a single example of anyone who defends it. They tied their own hands though with the ever escalating world and galaxy and cosmos ending threats, you can't exactly go back to the defias brotherhood forming a crime ring to extort their unpaid wages back after fucking galactus stabbed his 600 story tall sword in the ground.

I bet money a big part of the Forever reboot is to reboot the setting back to more grounded conflicts to escape the cycle of cosmic bullshit that no one takes seriously. I am unironically excited as fuck to play questlines about random quillboar doing some bullshit in a corner of the barrens.
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>>580826464
>the ONLY new playable race is their new oc sky elves
>b-b-b-bubut don't worry, we're still tooootally doing stuff to enrich the world outside that :))))
I see right through you.
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>>580826592
-10/10
if you genuinely believe this you are room temperature iq goycattle
or just a bait poster but those are the same thing
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>>580827159
You are missing the other half of the equation, the part where they need to pay hundreds of people to work for more than a year and a half to produce an expansion. The sheer amount of art assets they have to create for an expansion alone probably has an eye watering pricetag, something that will be difficult to justify for a dwindling population of mazed+ addicted clowns who don't even care about anything except incoherent vomit of nameplates and numbers flooding their screen.
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The Horde is gonna be fucking ruined by having these pretty totally Not Blood Elves as a Neutral race.
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>>580827251
woudn't they just soft-reboot the setting via some asspull then?

i seriously doubt the people playing retail are gonna go back to pressing frostbolt because the story is too out of control, i just dont see the logic in that
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>>580827398
The Horde are already ruined because they're considered too masculine and high testosterone for modern WoW, thus they'll be ruined by the women at Blizzard who exclusively play and write for the Alliance.
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>>580827239
>fucking expansions cost more than a aaa game and they crank them out 3x faster than a typical aaa game development cycle in the current era
>"lol they make no money on it"
Ahuh.
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>>580827476
>woudn't they just soft-reboot the setting via some asspull then?
What do you think forever is?
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>>580825961
Vanilla: Warrior
TBC: Warlock
WotLK: Death Knight
Cataclysm: Shaman
Mists: Monk
Warlords: Warrior
Legion: Demon Hunter
Battle for Azeroth: Rogue
Shadowlands: Death Knight
Dragonflight: Priest
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>>580827518
if classic itself didn't attract the retail audience long term, why would classic+? Most retail players didnt even play OG vanilla, it's not like retreading the same content was the issue the first time.
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>>580827495
No they fucking won't retard, so much of this shit is reused assets, give me a fucking break, shillnigger
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>>580827584
Why do you think they are targetting the retail audience? They already have the retail audience on retail, which they will probably stay on to get their mazed+ fix regardless. They are targeting the millions of other potential customers who bounce off of retail within seconds due to the tortuously complicated gameplay and incoherent mess of lore that is literally impossible to follow.
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Retail is nothing but retarded fucking idiots looking to get carried through everything. Delvin Melvins were right and on the frontier when TWW came out because literally everyone now either buys a carry or is just being carried in some form or fashion.
You can't fucking tell me these ultra bad shitters are clearing this raid. They're all being carried.
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I like how you retards just imagine stuff about Forever.
>dude it's a reboot
>dude they're retconning x, y or z
Meanwhile Blizzard themselves are going around saying it's sticking to canon. There's a billion different ways to spin this (the setting itself has built in alternate universe/timeline stuff ffs) off but they're not.
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Best thing about forever? No furries.
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>>580827398
The Horde is already ruined because it attracts insufferable edgelord snowflakes that want a crowd to tell them how cool they are but despise society. This includes Orcs, Forsaken and Trolls.

Taurenchads are the only ones worth keeping around. The rest of you need to kill yourselves.
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>>580827706
Blizzard haven't made a hard raid since Blackwing Lair. Now that was a raid for chads.
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>>580827701
>torturously complex gameplay
oh ok im talking to a retarded nigger my bad
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>>580827751
Tauren and Night Elf Druids (aka the original furry race) are right there, retarded kike
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>>580827769
Tauren should've left the Horde or sperged out on the Forsaken for all the crimes against nature they perpetrated over the years to be honest.
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>>580827790
>BWL
>hard
>i did it when I was literally a teenager smoking gigantic blunts with girls in my room literally going "ew, why are you playing video games"
yeah, it was sure "hard". More like my dick was hard.
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>>580827769
The Horde got ruined by having a revolving door of leaders because Blizzard can't decide if they want them to be actual good guys or anti heroes. So you get a morally grey leader like Garrosh and then he gets killed off for being corrupted, then you get a morally grey leader like Sylvanas and she gets killed off for being corrupted. They never had the balls to just go with the Horde being uncivilized savages wholesale, they had to be noble savages.
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>>580827874
hate to break this to you champ but people don't want to have to study a reference manual to play a fucking video game, they want to turn the game on and play it.

If you have to consult a guide to even begin playing the game on a competent level, 99.9% of people are simply going to tell you to fuck off and play something that respects their time.
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>>580824379
Why is it at such an angle
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>>580827731
They literally said it takes place before Molten Core, fucktard nigger

>>580827940
Only gay nigger Alliance trannies want Horde to be objectively evil so they can play the hero
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>>580827896
>i did it when I was literally a teenager smoking gigantic blunts with girls in my room literally going "ew, why are you playing video games"
Yeah thats the authentic WoW experience
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>>580826558
>but I don't get why Darkspears got it
because void elves got demon hunter so they gave horde 2 paladins and alliance 1 paladin
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>>580827887
I don't have a problem with those! Haha
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>>580827731
They explicitly said live on stage that they are willing to stray into events that "never happened"
(aka, not canon to retail)
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20 years worth of porn featuring Horde men fucking Alliance women has completely mindbroken the average Alliance tranny.
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It's kind of funny how much "they're shutting down" dooming is going on when things were much, MUCH bleaker around the time 2019 Classic launched. I think this place got like 5 posts an hour at times and it was nothing but misery.
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>>580826558
would you rather have gnome and orc paladins first
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>>580828127
I do love Tauren X Alliance women.
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>>580828214
I'd love goblin paladins.
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>>580827701
I think you should get some normie friends. It will really open your eyes about what they like because even fucking vanilla classic is basically an algebra textbook to them.
Complicated and boring as shit. The Forever audience is aimed as WoW players, current and previous.
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>>580826592
only if Forever truly succeed. And even then, it's become just slower cadence patch cycle - like 1 addon per 4 years with 4 patches, see ffxiv.
you underestimate amount of mazed players in retail, they ain't gonna play anything else, even different versions of their retail.
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>Tip of the sword is next to the core
>Sword is in Silithus
>Core was taken from the craddle in Harandar by the titans
So you're telling me that the titans sealed C'thun and put Azeroth's worldsoul next ot C'thun's prison willingly?
Fire these writers already bro
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>>580827993
>Only gay nigger Alliance trannies want Horde to be objectively evil
I'd prefer them to be objectively evil over the bumbling retarded fuck ups that Blizzard has portrayed them as for the past 15 years. They have so little respect for the Horde that they made Orgrimmar a raid and let players sack it for loot
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>>580827701
The Retail audience is fast diminishing because even mazed rats are growing tired. It's too much effort for too little satisfaction at a breakneck speed.
Blizzard is trying to decelerate the WoW experience and simplify it by removing all the frontloading. No need to catch up on 20 years of convoluted and highly disputed lore, just hop on and actually play from the start. No need to memorize 500 simon-says steps from a tutorial, you hop onto the raid and watch the tank-and-spank unfold with maybe a surprise or two.
The goal is to take wow from a game that's been made for veterans for 20 years to something that's good for everyone again.
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>>580828278
retard
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>>580828332
>The goal is to take wow from a game that's been made for veterans for 20 years to something that's good for everyone again.
Which is EXACTLY the correct move, and one they should have made 10 years ago.

I bet Asha had something to do with this.
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>>580828372
What afraid It'll start making sense?
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>>580828278
It's in the centre of Azeroth come on man is this retard central or something.
>sargeras has big sword
>he put big sword into azeroth
>tip of big sword is near the centre of the planet
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I'm a flippin' #BLIZZMISSILE

https://timewalking.blizzcon.com/
Post 'em
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>>580828451
Harandar is the canonical center, Azeroth's worldsoul rested in the craddle you see above Harandar.
>>580828451
Also the shape doesn't match
Goribal should atleast be burried to the hilt for it to make sense.
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>>580828240
i would love pandaren paladins too but they clearly were adding base-game paladins that were far more requested
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>>580828332
>>580828401
People also generally are cutting back on spending and computer upgrades.
Forever will run on a juiced up toaster and costs $15 a month with the potential to whale your ass out if you want to (and many paypigs do).
It's weirder that is took this long to come out in the first place but I seriously think Microsoft in general has been pushing for this for awhile now. Same with the recent D2 expansion and now fucking WC3 DLC out of nowhere. They only need to point at the free money AoE2 shits out and say "your IPs are at least 10 times more popular than this btw, why aren't you also milking them?"
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>>580828278
Only thing that is kind of weird is the "floor" of the world core isn't lined up with Azeroth's poles. The sword would be sticking up from the bottom if it was since Silithis is in the southern hemisphere.
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>>580828440
In the legion cutscene you can see his sword is at least, at LEAST 1/2 of the planet's diameter in length. He gets the damn thing almost to the hilt.
That's the very tip of the sword, meaning it is nearly HALF THE PLANETS DIAMETER AWAY from silithus. You would think that maybe the sword coming in nearly horizontal to the room would tip you off that it's not right below the place it was stabbed into? Retard.
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>>580825206
mirin?
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>>580826785

Ah definetly, but those are alliance races, i assume Blizzard wanted to give the horde an extra class this update since Alliance got Void Elf DH
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>>580828278
why is cthun next to the world soul if the world soul was relocated far before cthun was even on azeroth that makes no sense anon
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>>580828730
how to see youtube one?
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>>580828730
I'm not
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>>580828804
idk thats twitch
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>>580827893
Tauren should have quit when Garrosh started to act like Orgrimmar had any political pull.
Tauren are the natives of Kalimdor, have generations worth of knowledge of the land and populations in all the biomes apart from Durotar, which is the literal "who the fuck wants to live here" part of the continent, their homecountry is the breadbasket of the Horde and the Tauren have used elevators and wind-based technology for much longer than Orgrimmar had shitty Goblintech.
Baine decided to stick around because of "muh family" sentiments when this was exactly the moment to just abandon Garrosh, leave Orgrimmar to starve and watch a proud warrior brought to heel by nothing but supply lines which would have made a phenomenal circle to Saurfang's lessons in Northrend.
The Grimtotem have it right, all these outsiders need to be taught some humility.
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>>580828332
>good for everyone
That's impossible and trying to please everyone just to maximize profits is exactly what causing the game to become worse and no one is fully happy with the state of the game
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>>580828980
Also what's fucking the entire industry.
>nonono the player must be handheld and guided incase they get mad and quit
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>>580828612
>Forever will run on a juiced up toaster
Forever have higher minimal and recommended requirements than retail retard-kun. It's unironically more graphic-advanced game.
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....the 1% mounts?....the balance patch?...the heroic raid nerfs?....the mythic raid nerfs?...the blueberry elves?
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no maze is a big +
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How retarded would it be for me to tank in a raid i've never done before? (black temple)
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For how shit WoW looks it's amazing how badly it runs. Fucking retail should run on a toaster but it doesn't.
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>>580829091
That's literally how it became a multibillion dollar industry though, and essentially Blizzard's greatest success strategy.
When everybody in the industry wanted to be a pioneer and charter new lands, Blizzard intentionally stepped back and wandered in their wake so others would take the risk and Blizzard could take "what worked" and make it more accessible to regular people.

What's "fucking" the industry isn't that games are made for the lowest common IQ, it's that nostalgiaridden faggots expect big companies to behave and deliver like back around the turn of the millennium when the AAA is an ecosystem where you produce for shareholders instead of an audience.

And posts like yours remind me each day that I am sharing my hobby with literal fucking retards who don't read at all, let alone insights from developers themselves who might enlighten you as to the true nature of your hobby.
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>>580828980
meanwhile back in reality, when raiding was tank n spank with a few extra mechanics sprinkled in the game's population was 10 million. Today where your average raid encounter has a wowhead guide that's 20,000 words long with included video tutorial clips the population is near all time lows.

You mazed rats need to understand, YOU ARE A TINY MINORITY. MOST people do not want giga hardcore ballbusting bullshit in their video games. And the worst part is, if you want to have your balls busted you could always just do high level pvp, but you are too much of a pussy faggot to do something that you can't study 10 hours for in advance.
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>>580829409
>tfw gonna need a new cpu for classic+
LMAO
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>>580829493
na we only wanna the gigahard content in 5man dedicated groups for 20-30min... we just want raiding to be a fair challenge for a pug and nothing more
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>5man
>gigahard
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>>580828980
"Good for everyone" not in the sense of taste but the threshold to get into it, you doof.
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>>580829493
I don't think you can recapture what made original WoW so popular because it wasn't really to do with the game but the fact it was pseudo social media pre Facebook. It was a phenomenon locked to its specific time period. Trying to recreate it now the internet is mature is an impossible task
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>>580829676
ill make you giga hard and bust
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how do i into pvp?
is it even worth it or do only 3 other people actually play pvp
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ngl i was a bit interested in diablo news, then i see diablo 5, hear them talking about writing like it's dragon age, realize d4 released like 2 years ago and i cannot describe my disappointment
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>>580829747
right, the much better option is to simply continue what you have being attempting and failing at for over a decade.

This isn't an opinion, if what I said was incorrect blizzard would not be doing what they are doing, they wouldn't have even released 2019 classic.
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>>580829747
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https://www.wowhead.com/item=258476/frostbrood-proto-wyrm

SOON IN WRATH REMIX
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>>580828505
Foxxo 100 parsing...
...I... I fuarking KNEEL
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there is no way to disable battle net popups, I tried the trick suggested here I'm still getting popups, also ingame notifications drive me insane
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>>580829901
i already have this
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>>580829747
Somewhat jealous of those that grew up in a place where it was socially acceptable to be a wow player. Wow players at my school once they got found out they played it were basicaly a social lepper.
>oh look at this fag he plays wow i bet he thinks he's a fairy lmao
Type of shit like that. I avoided it because I didn't want to end up being that because I got seen buying a timecard or expansion.
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>>580825963
when the exodar crashed in tbc it fucking torpedoed their sky island on the way down and murdered them all
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>>580829992
in-game notifications can be turned off
disable 'broadcasts'
can be found on the launcher and in-game
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>>580829870
It's not the whole story though because in many ways Classic WoW was more obtuse and grindier and harder to play. You couldn't use LFG, teleport to dungeons or any other modern conveniences that make the game have less friction for casual players. And the playerbase sucked ass at the game making it much harder than it had to be at the time. So it's clearly not just a matter of making the game more friendly for casuals, it's more about the fact that information is much easier to get now and games will be optimized much faster. In original WoW your tank would probably be wearing some shitfest with Spirit all over it and nobody really cared, you can't get away with that now so even if the game is easier it's still going to be more of a pain to play simply because you don't have that blissful ignorance that let you do whatever you wanted.
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>legion remix brought back the argus aotc arcane bird
What will Wrath Remix bring back?
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>>580830186
grand crusader realm first mounts and their moggies maybe even black and plagued proto drake (copium)
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HH brother
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>>580830186
https://www.wowhead.com/item=258476/frostbrood-proto-wyrm
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-retail-mount-frostbrood-proto-wyrm-complete-dk-starting-zone-in-wrath-328757

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Reins_of_Titan-Reforged_Invincible
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>>580830095
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THERE IT IS DOOD
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Just woke up and watched the Blizz news. Why the fuck in Warcraft Forever (Blizzdrone copy of the server TurtleWoW they killed) did they add a literally who group of skyborne elves instead of adding something actually relevant from the lore?? Why not high elves and blood elves since these are reskins of them anyway and they are actually very famous races from the lore. Or open up Gilneas and have it be Worgen and Goblins. Or hell some of the allied races, anything other than this bullshit.
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Genuinely speaking - how does one get a gilf Holly long Dale gf?
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>>580830262
Mogged
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>$30 for a recolor race
/wowg/ everyone is laughing at us again...
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why the fuck are items wrapped? WHO NEEDS THAT? WHY MOUTS GET WRAPPED AGAIN? IF I UNWRAP MIT GETS WRAPPED AGAIN
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>>580830514
pipe down, pupsqueak
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>no blue goats in classic+

Why is NuBlizzard trannies like this?
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My sub ran out but now instead of Midnight it says Starter Edition on the Bnet app. But in my profile it still says I own Midnight (because I do)

Is this just a weird change that will go back to Midnight when I resub?
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>>580830531
its retarded gimmic to make feel reward "special"
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>>580830514
where do you pull that up?
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>>580830715
Timewalking Blizzcon site
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>>580830715
>>580828505
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So riddle me this will they get rid of the horrible grind of vanilla wow? Or is that "the charm"
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>>580828792
>if the world soul was relocated far before cthun was even on azeroth
Anon
Old gods were on Azeroth before titans even discovered it.
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>>580830904
The only bad part of the grind is the dead spots where youre better off grinding.
New content at those points will help.
But leveling in classic is fun.
Only retards poopsock to 60 just to do some boring ass raids they've done a thousand times before.
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indian bhai here i will redeem forever
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>>580831264
Are you part of the new skybourne?
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>>580830904
The world part of the classic grind is the 30-45 range.
The new content makes it so you're not doing SM until your fingers bleed.
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>>580831442
yes im aryan ser
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does arcane mage still do that nonsense two button orb spam?
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>>580831485
Classic, retail, or forever version?
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>>580831552
retail
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>>580830472
It had to be some flavor of elf because that is what the people want overwhelmingly.
And there are lore issues with implementing blood elves because all of their existing lore requires the framework of TBC to work, without that they would have had to cook up an even more contrived reason for them to join the horde.
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>>580831607
Idk
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>no TLT info
>no 12.2 deep dive
>bottom of the barrel 12.2 reveal
>Forever hogs every minute of Blizzcon
its over isnt it
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>>580831781
it's been over fren
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HotS sucks so much why are people so garbage
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>>580831708
>"omg pretty elf i want to be a pretty elf!!!!"
>ends up being a majority of the player races
I hate the playerbase.
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Why do you think they had Ion being the one to introduce the Forever devs?
Was it a humiliation ritual, or because he's the only dev left that played in vanilla?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnSguGEGfMI

DEAD GAME
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>>580831781
>no TLT info
I always said they wouldn't do this but "nooo anon you are wrong they always show the next expansion".
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>>580831781
Its pretty much over yeah. It's sad because really no other game has the same fun of classes and gameplay wow has for me. Nothing can really replace it, once its gone its gone
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>wowweewow forever
>we want to make the game like it was meant to be in 2007
>add smurf elves
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>Even Reddit is shitting on blizzard
When even those retarded corpo cockriders are hating it you know C+ is dead on arrival.
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>>580832276
Why do you think Forever can't give you that same fun?
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i need to beat pve before wow forever drops where is the best place to find groups for 4k and mythic raids
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>>580832375
maybe in the holes you mazed+ rats hide in, most of reddit is overwhelmingly positive on forever.
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>>580825818
He's getting uppity again, sounds like someone is asking for another flooded office.
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>>580832325
Don't worry they're definitely not someone on the team's OC race idea they wanted to shove in so it's OK they're expending all the budget on the new donut steele race
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>>580832420
Even if you reach 1% now by the time 12.2 comes out you won't even be in the top 5%.
Retail will be the cage for M+ rats and mythic raiders.
Forever will be for people that want to play a MMORPG.
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>>580832652
I don't care if the race is an OC donut steele as long as they are hot and sexy, which the new skelves certainly are.
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>>580832706
It's just fucking void elf model again bro
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>almost biting the bullet and playing femdrae redskin warlock like the few anons from the last thread
>ignoring meta, good racials, having feet, in profit of looking hot and lore accurate
>pretty much denying having meta racials for raids and m+ too
>being perceived as a total subhuman shitter, the ones I fucking hate with a passion
>0.5% less dps than hooman, shit naaru draenei racial healing shit
>with the aim of farming hot mogs, nice mounts etc
I can feel this will be a net positive for me since Ill be relaxed as fuck but my competitive self is so conflicted, what do I doooo
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>Shyborne Elves are hated

I'm kinda happy that their main "innovation"; the most lazy, out of place, greedy one; was a flop.

Blizzard always succeed to ruin good things with one detail.
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>>580832696
i feel raped that you made me read that when all im looking for is a website link or a discord or some direction towards a community
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>>580832859
which is pure sex, except with even more customization options now. my dick will literally never be prepared for the flood of skelf ass on my screen when forever launches.
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>>580832935
>OH MY GOD AN AMOUNT OF DAMAGE THAT IS AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE LESS IMPORTANT THAN CRIT RNG NOOOOOOO
stop being a fag
there you go
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>>580832974

Oh please, Void Elves were extremely hated and they ended up being one of the most popular races even when they had ridiculous reputation requirements, and now everyone acts like Void Elves are awesome because of Xala'tath.
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>>580833029
t. 1850 worgen player
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>>580833021
>>580833021
>which is pure sex
no it's not, it's tranny coded safe horny granny trash, stop the snarking
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>>580833418
>svelte elf women with runway model-esque hourglass figures and supermodel faces
>tranny coded
just admit you are gay chief.
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IS THERE A LIST OF SPELLS THAT MAKE EVOKERS IMMUNE TO ALL CC DOTS INTERRUPTS HEALING REDUCTION I AM SO FUCKING TIRED OF THIS FAGGOT FUCKING CLASS BEING IMMUNE TO EVERYTHING I DO
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At this point their lack of being assed to make totems, druid forms and paladin mounts for everyone really is the last barrier to just letting every race play every class huh
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>>580833568
the only thing worse than xal'lath being tranny man jaw coded is the way you mask it by pushing the foot fetish shit
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>>580833940
it's actually the only reason yeah, blizznigger is the most pathetic and lazy gaming company in existence
never heard of a game using the same fucking skeletons for mounts for more than 20years, or still using the weekly lockouts for 45yo raids
GOD FORBID timmy benny vanessa and david will farm their hard earned 0.1%dropchance mounts faster, NOOOOOO
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>>580834119
>being a collector
>with only 1 character
user error
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>>580833660
they get immune to kick for 4 seconds if anyone misses a kick on them via their heliotrope gem
they get immune to CC for 4 seconds after using verdant embrace if pvp talented (mostly pres)
they cant be dropped below 100% movespeed during hover if pvp talented
they cant be kicked during obsidian scales (wall, has 2 charges, heals % of damage mitigated)

if you kick dev on blue they do no damage
if you kick pres on green they have a hard time with burst healing and cc

hover has 2 charges, deep breath resets a charge per cast, so does time spiral (2 minute cd)
rescue breaks roots on target and caster
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>>580833940
Totems could be made in an afternoon,
I have no idea why blizzard just doesn't put in easy work.
Is it that every decision made needs 20 different teams to look over and approve of it first before it's released ?
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>>580834191
good goy
guaranteed vaxxed + triple boosted
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>>580833329
It really is a great example of stated vs revealed preferences. Every self styled lorefag wants to be some zugzug monster until they get horny, then they log on to one of their multitude of slutmogged elf chicks.
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>>580832382
ppl playing Forever at Blizzcon say it has 0 retail gameplay vibes, its straight up classic gameplay
i really CBA with that uncslop
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>>580825818
can you imagine losing your hair again after spending 10 grand for a turkish man to staple ballsack hairs 2 inches above your eyebrows.
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>>580834519
isn't he like 50? why does he even care? just go full norf fc human blob mode with the cue ball head and the jowels and everything.
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>>580834468
Will you try it out?
It's part of the retail sub anyway, it wouldn't cost you anything.
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>>580834592
the english are a naturally wretched race, yet unimaginably vain and prideful. it's a fascinating contradiction.
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>>580834592
nta
I think he wanted to divorce his wife or at least have an affair but he knows WOW clout means nothing for women so he figured he would try to look hot.
Obviously that failed.
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>>580834592
>just go full norf fc human blob mode
talking like it's not already the case
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you will forever have artisan moxies in your currency tab and you will never be able to take them out of there
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>>580834195
absolute cancer
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>>580813652
ABSOLUTELY NOT! IT IS TOO MUCH NATURE!
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>>580818419
>actual unironic gacha machines at Blizzcon
Humiliation ritual
We're being made fun of bros...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeKbCcq9gT8

OG WINNING BIGLY

WOWO WAWA LOST BIGLY
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>We want you to discover all new stories in Azeroth with Warcraft Forever
>Anyway here let this lady completely explain the storylines for each new dungeon and raid as well as giving you the level ranges of each

Why didn't they just say "New Dungeons and Raids" and let people discover them naturally?
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>>580835787
retail is circling the drain bro, TLT is the end it's basically confirmed.
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Reminder that alliance has just 3 shaman races while the horde has like 9999 and they are getting TWO paladin races AND they have troll and tauren who can be ALL FUCKING CLASSES

But horde still cries and pretends to be the underdog and had a panic attack when Void Elf got DH.
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>>580835494
>OG: here's 2 new classes. why yes we also added 2 new classes last xpac. and the xpac before that and the xpac before that
>WoW: best i can do is a new class every 10 years. yeah we cant ship em with 3 specs anymore like we used to either. new class in the worldsoul saga of 3 expansions? not possible.
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>toggleable transmog
>toggleable models
>controller support
>second names
>new animations
Why do they put more effort and QoL into classic+ than retail?
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holy based I WON BIGLY
I ALWAYS WANTED THIS SET ON MY PALADIN
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>>580835871
Three? Count again, you have 7
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>>580835925
Because those dont affect maze+ participation.
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>>580836047

AND HOW MANY THE HORDE
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lmao
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>>580836034
>HE DOESNT KNOW
LMAO
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>>580835925
might unironically play Forever on controller, I'm pretty tired of having a gorillion keybinds for everything.
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>>580836034
tier should stay locked to each class idc
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Any clue when 12.2 is? I don't care for anything but the lifting of transmog restrictions. Winter is a bit vague, ranges from november to march
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>>580836080
11
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>>580836161
I guess just after the end of Winter Veil (which will be, I guess, 12.1.7)
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>>580836161
Most likely Late January/ Early February
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>>580836139
they are
the literal cuckold doesnt know and is excited over misinformation
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listening to le azeroth ambience fm
now the question is do i go with arcane mage or ret paladin?
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>>580836161
If only there was some way to find out how long seasons usually last, and what week we are in.
Oh well. Guess we'll just have to wildly guess.
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AYO NO MORE TRANSMOG RESTRICTIONS TWIN
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We have to wait until FUCKING APRIL OR MAY of NEXT YEAR for unrestricted transmog. Fucking JEWZZARD
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>Sargeras almost hit the world soul
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>>580836348
Bruh HEEMED that anon lmao
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>>580836424
keep being subbed :)
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na unrestricted transmog is dumb

tier 3 being not class restricted already is kind of dumb
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>>580836161
GARITHOS-SAMA DONT LOOK
DONT BUY NEW WC3 CAMPAIGN GARITHOS-SAMA
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>>580836592
Are you fucking kidding me
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>>580836139
>>580836243
>the shoulders and helm are tier exclusive with no off set version
No.... There's always Dragonflight remix at least...
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sacred blue
this is bad news for retail
classic won bigly unironically
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>>580836424
lol retail isn't even gonna be alive by then, Forever will be mogging the shit out of retail.
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>>580836243
NTA but are class locked items still locked to said class?
So all your alts would only have access to shit like, boots, belt and maybe a chest from the full set because the rest of the pieces are tier only or catalyst only which are class restricted?
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>>580836720
>classic
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>Retoilets still refuse to accept that Forever is being positioned to replace their failed spaghetti mess of a game
I wonder when they'll realize it's over.
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>>580836712
I know the shoulders are actually a BOE in the raid.
They do cost a bit though on the AH.
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>no playable gobs in forever
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>>580836592
FUCKING KEKKALONIKI
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What's Forever play like? Ain't watching no streamer fag.
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>>580836592
>Garithos was such a peak human specimen his body parts were used to sow an abomination
KINO
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>>580836976
its sod
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>>580836903
...good enough
I couldn't see that from the adventure guide! Shameful!
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>>580836976
nopt a single cunt in here has access to it yet because it only comes out nov 04th and beta is sitll closed afaik so enjoy your media curated resonses you swine.
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>>580837063
They have access to it if they're playing on the Blizzcon floor.
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maye thoughts on the announcements so far
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>>580837230
this is the only above mid thing coming for the rest of midnights pitiful lifespan
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evens i go with paladin again might try holy
odds arcane
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I levelled one toon to 90 in Midnight and feel absolutely no motivation to quest through those zones again. Idk what it is. They weren't even bad zones.
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>>580836976
It's fun and doesn't cater to Liquid and Echo.
Basically the end for retail.
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>>580837290
Ok? Then don't, timewalking next week
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>he thinks forever thinks good
lmao
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dungeons points kek it's not rating if it can't go down
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>>580837525
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What do you think of me?
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>>580837290
Because it's full of slop. The quests in their own are good but the decors, the environment and the activities are slop.

Me? I always full quests with my main and just level up alts with world quests and gathering. prof
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bros if i get the beta will my char be deleted once it releases? idc about the beta if its just like a public test realm
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>>580837582
huns boughted the gold set
huns is NOT cool (fonzy is cool btwà
huns no gf
huns no rare items
HUNS FAT ASS
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F-For the horse...
...I-I mean, the horde!
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>>580837732
>I will never have to look at this again when I play wow Forever
I'm sold
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>>580837525
>competitive gamemode
>no way to fail
you can only fall up the stairs in m+
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>>580837812
that's where you're wrong, buck-o!
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femdrae dk or lock?
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wait if i play warlock on wawa forever i can play demo and transform into a demon again and press bing bing wahoo buttons
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>fragmenting the player base and devs even more
retards
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>>580838191
there's no meta for locks
you will be spamming shadowbolt and you will like it
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https://www.wowhead.com/item=50818/invincibles-reins

EVERYONE GETS INVINCIBLE
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Give me your take on a couple of WoWF fixing proposals

Immediate fix needs
> remove Sky Elves from non-Chinese versions of the game, since they are added in for them specifically
> replace them with High Elf / Goblin options in the future patches
> keep Quel'thanas & Blood Elves out of both factions
> Remove Orc Mages, Troll Warlocks
> remove frostfire bolt from Mages


Personal flavour additions
> import certain classic looking HD weapon & armour assets from retail to Forever - e.g. Headmaster's Command, Squire's Warhammer, Helm of the Fierce, Judgement armour set, heritage armour sets etc.
> HD versions for racial mounts as well
> naturally tie the SD/HD toggle option to both imports' visibility
> Race-class specific quests to tweak spells - e.g. Undead Priests' Light spells are converted into Shadow healing spells akin to the Cult of Forgotten Shadows, Undead Paladins' spells into shadow/quasi-death knight spells
> enable Shamans switch all water spells like Riptide to be aesthetically converted into 'Spirit' healing spells, while retaining the nature classification
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>>580838216
>N-N-NOOOOOOO YOU NEED TO GET BACK IN THE MAZE WITH ME!!!!!!
lmao sorry retoilet tranny, I will be playing my male human warrior in World of Warcraft: Forever.
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>>580838247
wont someone think of the mount 25% of the playerbase already has
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they didnt redo that double mountdrop chance event thing no? you think it hurt those faggots bad and saw numbers drop? like icc participations
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>>580838238
>there's no meta for locks
w-why
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>We want to bring back the sense of discovery to Classic WoW, to show people that not everything is solved
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invincible is an ugly ass mount. i dont get why so many people are obsessed with it
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>>580838370
because you're not playing wotlk
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how do i toggle on or off the proc visual around my character
pls respond
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>>580838216
>comfy gamers can play Forever
>uncs can play Vanilla
>comp trannies can play Retail
What's the issue?
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https://youtu.be/dKKj3DmaXNQ
Garithos bros... :<
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>>580838413
>DUDE ARTHAS
That's why.
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>>580838418
oh..right it was added in wotlk
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>>580838404
>everything already tested and solved before Nov 4

GRIM
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>>580838216
>fragmenting the player base
Retail wow did that on it's own.
No one would be asking for classic plus if they made a good MMORPG and not whatever this maze bullshit retail is.
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>>580838413
cant even see it haha
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>trying to do nemesis delve
>he needs me to interrupt more often than my interrupt cooldown
This feels so fucking cheap. Now I have to go out and figure out how to get some interrupt shit from some codex garbage. Cheap.
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wesh who are the jews of wow cuh?
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>>580838524
They just can't resist letting their pet streamers spoil everything early. I don't understand why Blizzard is like this.
I have NEVER seen any other MMO dev this fast and loose with their upcoming content or storylines.
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RETOILET WHEN?
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>>580838605
>Play healer
>Basically just spam heal yourself and press decurse for 8 minutes
It's that easy.
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>>580838689
dude trust me bro advertisement doesn't work anymore nowadays
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>>580837649
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!
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can america start ww3 already?

we need people like this to go die in a war so they can never paint nails of men ever again

what a fucking faggot holy shit excuse me while i go throw up at the sight of this faggot at blizzcon with his painted nails fucking loser commiefornian what the fuck are they doing at blizz man upon seeing this nigga working at blizz i have my doubts immediately returned to me for 12.2 and tlt
and yes, he is on the retail team, timestamp here where he talks about the rogue-lite game-mode from pax east https://youtu.be/vgT5KpTPcQc?si=jKSRJrwDuLHkq_5q&t=176

fuck this
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>>580838680
>wesh
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>>580838791
cuh i would put that "man" to sleep in a sec with a proper wallop to the temple lmao
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>>580838791
>he is on the retail team
Shocking...
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why cant we have this
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>>580838732
A million options. They choose to make a random new blue Elf. Incredible, so out of place, so out of touch.
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>everyone on retoilet team is gay faggot with painted nails
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>>580838791
At this point retail is just the containment zone while the real gamers play and devs make wow Forever.
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I went from not caring about classic at all and just playing Midnight season to season to being obsessed with the idea of Forever and not wanting to touch Midnight over night

I just checked out the What’s Next for Midnight video and it just seems so boring and uninspired. Why the fuck are they splitting the player base like this.
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>>580838732
I really want them, I want to be an elemental elf
I just wish balance druid was still using actual nature and weather magic instead of all the gay moon shit.
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>>580838741
Okay? My interrupt has a 30 second cd. If he does an insta death spell more often than 30 seconds with his add then I simply cannot interrupt it other than with the power of my fucking mind. "spam heal lmao" is not going to help here. I either learn how to interrupt with my fucking mind or I need to go after another source of interrupt.
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Uhhh, so after all these expansions and scooby doo shenanigans, xal'atath just shows up at the world soul door and walks in?
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>>580839193
you weren't there to stop her now were you?
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Why does Ion sound so much more excited when talking about Forever instead of Retail

And why the fuck was he talking during the What’s Next for Forever instead of Midnight??

This whole thing feels weird, like they’re throwing retail under the bus.
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>>580839147
What spec do you play?
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can we just cut the worldsoul saga out early and skip it, it's obviously terrible
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>>580839275
I stopped her like 20 times already!
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RETOILET SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
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im down to grind forever desu retail is alt fiesta and new characters have no investment/attachment

did a new 1-90 in like 10hrs df tww catch up midnight then deleted it
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>Blizzcon is not even over and we’re already back to 10 hour threads

Retail is cursed
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>>580838942
cos we already killed them all?
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>>580839527
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>>580838791
>wearing a wedding ring
Do you think he actually married a woman?
My bet is either a troon or a man.
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wemen love painted nails tho
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>blue blood elves
Oh god I'm laughing
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>>580839902
cant have slop without the elves. gotta shoehorn that shit into everything.
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>>580813081
love wowg anons!!!
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>>580813493
from mid to milf baddie
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>>580839780
they dont care at best
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>>580813493
>Reads her lines like a robot with zero emotion and comes across as fake in you're path
Why can't Blizzard just let their people be genuine?
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>>580813493
the thick ow slut mogged her
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>>580824457
Wrath honestly has the fugliest armor pieces in the whole game. I can't imagine wtf I'm even going to grab unless all the goodies are non-expansion stuff.
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>>580840092
Yea and classic+ is lazy as fuck, just bunch of stolen private server shit mixed with retail WoW.
Skills, passives and features straight from Turtle and Ascension WoW, no wonder Blizzard did shut down those recently after all these years.

Absolute madness that people are willing to pay $30 - $80 for this.
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>>580839527
Only 2 of them are dead. Would be great to have Yogg back in Last Titan. C'thun deserves a comeback too.
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>>580839372
The Sky Elves were clearly made for zoomers (or whatever they call very young people now) because they still believe that children play WoW
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>>580824457
I'll play wrath remix just to get shadowmourne.
The sets are too old for modern wow, unless they update them which I doubt.
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>>580840742
>shadowmourne.
this shit is so fucking easy as long as you know how to deal with the blood infusion quest
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>Sky elves
>Kirians
Like Kyrians from Shadowlands, also blue and sky themed with wings and all.
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>>580840626
>Absolute madness that people are willing to pay $30 - $80 for this.
Classic + is free
The race is $30.
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i need a transmog for paladin
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>>580840718
they were made for chinamen
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>>580840854
The full physical collector's edition is $150 + $30 shipping because the bronze statue has some heft to it.
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>>580841082
You know, you aren't forced to pay for it, right?
It's like being offered a free Honda and complaining about the price of a BMW.
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am i edgy enough for average paladin on retail
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will there be participation trophy fomo items i can use to flex on wowf latefags??
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>>580841363
I'm imagining a retail or tbc mount for completing the sky elf starter zone.
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What race should my DK be
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>>580841473
human or undead
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for me, it's being such a chad that didnt do the housing tutorial quest
so I can skip the 40minutes retarded ass intro questline
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>>580839527
They can just make up new ones whenever they want like they make up new elves
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>>580841334
Nah, what you are is a very gay coded paladin so that's pretty nice. Too bad ingame humans can't be made to look like cute boys though
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>>580841556
Wait do you actually skip exile's reach if you don't do the tutorial?
Am I bricked for doing it then?
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>>580841596
yeah you get set to level 10 too
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>>580841568
true
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>>580841596
instantly teleported to the housing district at lvl10yes
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>>580841572
>what you are is a very gay coded paladin
alright
draenei women with penises im coming for you
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>hate leveling
>getting my first character to 60 will take over 100 hours because it won't have boosts like sod did
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BUT WHY
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>>580841642
>>580841678
>Punished for doing the tutorial
What the fuck?
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Classic+ seems to be SoD 2.0 with a few features stolen from private servers.

It's going to be amusing to see what nonsense they come up with for this version and then later add it to the retail version claiming it's a canon event from the past.
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>>580841723
owned
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RETOILET WHEN?
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I'm sad for this guy. He was always the face of WoW. Just a few second in the original cinematic but so charismatic, so cool with fierce bear.

And now, he's just a disney Dwarf with his best friend Bear the bear who loves to play with dead Elf spirits and touch grass.
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>>580841720
Only so I can get the timelost protodrake and get out
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good feet mog for hooves? they piss me off
female draenei (+)
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I can't believe people still have hope.
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>>580841720
They are so behind schedule for retail that we're getting so much god damned filler in the next year and more. The reset they wanted to do after TLT isn't working out as they hoped. But hey, they want this shit on consoles, so let them deal with the ramifications of doing a larger reset than OG did.
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>>580841962
your super simian sphere???
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>>580841556
>skip the 40minutes retarded ass intro questline
At least no blue Elves
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>>580841720
Because Xal'atath, Ulduar and Titan structures.
Also, remember Arthas? Did you know there's new version of classic WoW as well? It's called World of Warcraft: Forever - you probably heard about it from your favorite streamer who talked about Classic+ and it will save WoW and how everything will return to peak times like Wrath of the Lich King. Remember that expansion? You probably were like 12 - 15 year old back then.
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>>580841923
Champion they turned me into a bronze statue and shipping me around the world champion help me
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>>580841850
>already waiting for WoW:F x WoW retail collab
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Wrath has no content, no world quest, no mazed+, daily raidlogging I guess if thats your thing
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>>580841850
where the fuck is this
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>>580842163
>no mazed+
Didn't they do something in Wrath classic to make dungeons harder?
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explain me whats so good about classic+
i only enjoyed sod for a bit
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>>580841923
They raped him good
>remember original cinematic? It's ours now
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>>580842263
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/guide/dungeons/titan-rune-dungeon-overview

I guess they can port this shit as mazed+
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>>580836798
god wish i could rape chromie
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Fuck.

Yes.
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>>580842284
>i only enjoyed sod for a bit
Leveling part? How about after you reached max level?
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>>580841490
lol
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>>580842429
i uh.. dropped it after leveling
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>>580841720
They will give us HD and 3D models of those shitty armor pieces... Right?
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>>580842406
>prices going down
Unrealistic.
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>>580842406
Now add Elf only classes.
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>>580842406
I actually want this... I love elves, bros....
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is there some MUST BUY stuff in the tendie shop atm?
got the blood troll set so far, thinking about the blazing420 hypogrif and maybe the regular normal turtle too
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>>580842483
Did you find it exciting to gain a new skill when you levelled up?
What about quests where you had to kill 10 creatures to get green or blue items?

Your heart must have been racing when you did them!
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Any Mistweaver pros ITT can explain the merits of apex vs no apex for M+?
I hate tracking this shit and I hate how it turns off when it overheals. No apex build blasts more damage and having all 5 capstones is kino.
>>
UNAAADAAAA
UNDAAAADAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>580842862
actually the only fun part was thinking what shit could i mix together, but after a week i went back to retail
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>>580842870
Just look up Ortemis guides on jadefireteachings and it explains everything
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>>580842523
You'll get painted on armor, best nublizzard trannies can do
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I would have bought the Midnight epic edition since I want to play but it seems all the mountsmogscheevos you get with it are now pointless with Forever
grim
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imagine if you can play bdk as dps in remix haha...
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>>580842862
>>580842948
>Rats trapped in the maze are unable to escape
Enjoy mythic raiding and wiping for hours while MMORPG players play a real game.
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never played remix, whats the difference with classic
only know you can level up fast af alts in there
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https://youtu.be/tQpwsWbTXdk?si=48xM0EEdaZjilufT&t=137

>new blue elf race in classic only for $29,99
Finally Blizzard is listening.
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>>580843150
maze is the speedrunning tranny mode retard
no mythic boss lived longer than the early ones btw
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>>580843195
you basically play midnight wow locked to wotlk zones and content
Probably going to get something similar to legion remix where everyone had millions of hp and could solo all dungeons and raids
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Chris Metzen status?
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>>580843195
Remix is basically just playing retail just only in northrend and you get OP by farming something in the first week before it gets nerfed and then you either carry people in raids or you get carried by people that farmed the first week.
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Whats up with the Battle.net ads? Each day I get a new popup.
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>>580843295
>no splits
>no multiple difficulties with separate lockouts
Wow, I can't believe it took longer!
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>>580843321
Crying that the game is still called Warcraft.
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>>580843498
>splitting for a training dummy boss
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so when the beta for classic forever is over do the characters just disappear? or do they roll over to live?
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>>580843614
do you honestly think they'll let people have a 30 lvl headstart
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>>580843614
ptr and beta shit never transferred. feedback from it is ignored too so and bugs remain unfixed so dont burn yourself out playing it
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>>580843614
Why would they roll over to live anon. Are you retarded by chance.
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>classic but different
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>>580842406
Yeah, I fucking hate the ai slop mobile design in modern RPGs.
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>>580843603
>Doesn't understand my point since he started wow after MOP
You couldn't do splits back then, not possible.
>training dummy boss
Yeah, because Mythic Sporefall was so hard?
lmao.
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>>580841720
Because we are going to Northrend. They want us to see the past of this region again.
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>>580843730
Forever is going to be DIFFERENT.
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retail is just classic but different
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So is the plan for WoW:F to completely alienate the majority fanbase that keeps the game running by making lore just like a joke now? Or are they gonna gear up for some ridiculous multiverse thing because they're running out of single-universe bad guys to deal with?
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>>580843729
>>580843669
>>580843701

well then whats the point in paying for beta? to rob yourself of the fun in playing the game on launch? im confused
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I timed my first 18 and it didn't seem so bad despite kinda playing like an idiot
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>>580843884
but norhrend zones and instances are dogshit and so are the mogs and mounts
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switching between ranged and melee character is suicide inducing sometimes
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https://www.indiekings.com/2026/09/by-indie-kings-september-13-2026.html

>Blizzard just copied Skyborne race from D&D

All they do is copy, how incompetent are these people they hire?
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>>580843309
>>580843326
and then you farm a currency allowing you to get excloosiv shit
is it a really big and long farm to buy all the vendor
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>>580844073
>well then whats the point in paying for beta? to rob yourself of the fun in playing the game on launch?
Yes
If you're a streamer you can do it for content as well
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>>580844137
range feels off in this game thats ong
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>>580844072
WoW:F makes new lore and content for retoilet
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>>580844174
>is it a really big and long farm to buy all the vendor
Or just play the last 2 weeks and get everything for free by getting carried
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>should we focus on the existing races and flesh them out
nah just pull void elves out of our asses lmao
>ok should we focus on existing races and flesh them out now?
nah just pull haranir elves out of our asses lmao
>ok should we focus on existing races and flesh them out and finish their zones for classic+
nah just pull sky elves out of our asses lmao
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>OC sky elves before Ogres
Grim
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>>580844073
I don't really play beta for that reason. I've gotten f&f alpha access before and it kinda made things a bit underwhelming... I'd rather wait and experience everything fresh than spoil it and already know what's happening and what to do on launch day. Beta really seems like it's for streamers to do free advertisement and super addicts with no self control who would rather die than patiently wait for launch, especially since this new wow comes with a sub so you don't really have to risk paying an extra box price to discover you don't like it.
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nigga what ogres update fucking hairstyles for humans at least
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>>580841720
We get Argent Tourny mounts (hopefully including the one you can't get anymore) and Shadowmourne transmog. It's going to be great.
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>>580844091
I'm pretty sure they will add Shadowlands transmogs/mounts/toys to WotLK remix
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>>580844072
>by making lore just like a joke now
You think THIS is what made the lore into a joke??

Have you seen the past like 6 expansions?
If anything, dumpstering all of that shit with a reboot is the only way to save the lore.
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>metzen not at blizzcon

VERY TELLING
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uh oh

incoming shit show
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>>580844917
He knows his world soul saga is a failure
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>>580844917
He'll be back when TLT gets more reveals.
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how do we feel about the future of retail?
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is Swifty /ourguy/ or is it Metzen?
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>>580844917
He gave up with Worldslop saga
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>WoW Bloodborne is coming soon
>no one gives a shit

What did /we/ mean by this?
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Free me from this elfslop
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>>580845163
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>>580845380
>soon: introducing *NEW* skyborne elves from World of Warcraft: Forever only for 30$
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>>580845163
It's actually dead, they had nothing to show for it at blizzcon, they are too busy working on other things.
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>>580845163
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>>580845342
implying adding rollslop would ever be a positive
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>>580845163
apparently not as dead as classic since your fucking kind keeps coming here
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>>580842406
>Dune Elf
>Brown woman

My fucking cock can only gdet so hard frewns
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>>580846084
>>580846084
>>580846084
NEW
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>>580845163
He said we are going to save Azeroth one last time.



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