previous 580852457What is WoW Forever?Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
FOREVER SLOP LMAO
wow im forever on hrt
FOREVER RETAIL
>Get rid of the RPG features from classic with camping and profession perksthis is a disaster panel
Retail Minus.
TURTLE LOSTASCENSION LOSTDUTCH IS GOING TO JAILSHENNA WILL BE SCAMMING MORE PSERVER POORFAGSBLIZZARD WON
Uhmmm forever sisters? This is getting worse by the minute I don't really know how to feel...
>mounts!>mogs!>cheevos!yeah, you're totally not playing retail anon
>theyre putting legitimate nerds on stage instead of pr plantsits giving me faith anons
>heirloom achievementsthis is actual fucking slop
forever kinowe are going homec u on fresh
>>580870726Humilliation ritual
>have to play alts like lost arkyou rike?
yeah this is garbage
>>580870974>they don't have a single person there who can tell them to put on a fucking shirtlol, ESLnigger
oh boy time for your gigantic layered monoserver
>NOOOO THERE'S NO FOMO IN THIS VERSION>Battlepass implemented Incredible stuff
>ARENT YOU GUYS EXCITED FOR BATTLE PASS REWARDS! >I can't wait to get the bear and play with my friends>complete silence in the audience XDD
lmao we getting megaserver watch
private server brownoid/trannies status?
Don't do it. Don't fucking do it.
>we're going home to retail +, bros
>>580871046>Unlockables in video games are bad!!!Zoomers like you deserve the rope. Bet you would be eating this up if it was on the shop for 20 dollars.
Who's Dalaran?
They are cooking. Retoilets are doomtrooning already because they think this is gonna replace retail.
>it does even have a trackits really retail minus lmao
she needs to go back to mexico
pserfs malding hard rn
>>580871163Hanging in their hovels due to 0 new pservers popping up lol
AHAHAHAHAHAH
here we go they're gonna get rid of servers entirelyclassic+ btw
>spic servers
>Latin America will merge with NA serversholy fuck forever is dead
someone call ICE on this ESL beaner
i'm going to love how dead this general is going to be when the beta launches and it will just be the poor brownies screeching here saying the game is dead
>profession perk that lets you skip buying mats from vendors completelybotting paradise. think ill be sticking to octowow
>>580871150>>complete silence in the audiencethis has been the funniest part of blizzcon so far, they pause for the clapping that never comes
why arent they playing their private servers instead of seething about forever?
>RagnarosOof
whoever put software engineers on stage has a sick sense of humor
1 MEGA REALM CONFIRMED
private server browns are assblasted lmao
>>580871153fucking hopefully
>deep dive>Look inside>it's retail transmogs and heirloom talents and lazily copypasted twow tents2 years of work for this shit.
PLEASE contain all the latrinas to their own containment server. PLEASE.
>They told me they are playing on Ragnaros>So I never spoke to those brown shitters ever againis what she shouldve said
She's gonna say it
>>580871046Wow how terrible! Here in classic it's so much better as we farm...>world buffs>world buffs>world buffs
please be megaservers please be megaservers
Why do they put these people with ridiculous accents up on the screen? Put a white English speaker on stage. I don't wanna have to decipher what the fuck these people are saying.
nooooo not megaserversmy game is gonna be sharted to shit
>>580871238>anon doesnt love huehuehue me brasil spamspanish blocker gonna replace questie
>>580871113you don't know what a battlepass is
FUCK YES
forever layered
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
wow we can all play with our favorite streamer now wow we can have br shitters in all our bgs and pugs wow i cant wait
BLIZZARD WONBLIZZARD WONSHENNA LOSTDUTCH LOST
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Megaserver means sharding by the way >Megaserver means sharding by the way Megaserver means sharding by the way >Megaserver means sharding by the way
HOLY SHIT NO REALMS?
>realmlessprivate server andersons lost bigly
I HECKIN LOVE LAYERSINVITE TO ASMON LAYER NOW PLS
GLOBAL ASMON LAYER>GLOBAL ASMON LAYERGLOBAL ASMON LAYER>GLOBAL ASMON LAYERGLOBAL ASMON LAYER>GLOBAL ASMON LAYER
REALMLESS WOW
>realmlessnow instead of waiting 30 minutes to kill a boss you can wait 4 hours
Why are you celebrating? We need third world containment.
>inv to asmon layerinv to asmon layer>inv to asmon layerinv to asmon layer>inv to asmon layerinv to asmon layer>inv to asmon layerinv to asmon layer
>pvp*silence*LMAO
>nerdy redhead Latina on stageFuck it I’m getting the most expensive version of the game
Don't need realms boys we're going in RAW
I want to rape this cute mexican bear
there it is, nothing says classic like never meeting the same person twice so there's no reason to ever do anything nice
we're all on PVP realm
Then the little "yeah!' while shaking the fist of impotence as soon as someone in the audience forces a "whoo..." has been hilarious
INV TO ASMON LAYER!!!!!!! I NEED TO GIVE HIM MY GOLD!!!!
>>580871443is that a boy?
So its one server sharded into 4 layers?
classic is LITERALLY getting more features than retail
>RETAIL MINUS HAS LAYERINGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>powerlevel on normal>switch to pvp>gank lowbiesoh god ahahahahaha
inv asmonlayer
>realmlessname stonks going up
EU BROS WE GOING PVP AND WE ARE RAPING EVERY NA PIG ON SIGHTCORRECT??????????????????
Retail is DEAD
Forget any sort of server community or reputations building up over time. This shit is going to suck ass.
>>580871426I LOVE ELF WOMEN
Imagine being a broke ass pserver player right now realizing you'll never have anything good anymore lmao
>>580871454I cant wait until streamers break the one server we have and take it over with their clique I cant wait until streamers break the one server we have and take it over with their clique I cant wait until streamers break the one server we have and take it over with their clique I cant wait until streamers break the one server we have and take it over with their clique I cant wait until streamers break the one server we have and take it over with their clique I cant wait until streamers break the one server we have and take it over with their clique I cant wait until streamers break the one server we have and take it over with their clique
what about us RPPVP chads...?
>>580871504the only sensible take this is truly fucking awful
>Layering>Megaservers>Paid Original The Character raceOH BOY I LOVE THE SPIRIT OF CLASSIC
>pserfs mad they have to play the game to get cool things instead of being able to paypig for it instantly as soon as the server launchesYou love to see it.
so good ping is just out of the question...
Can I start one pve and later swap back to pvp or not?
>>580871548Anon, Classic is just getting Retail features.
>>580871612>>580871454>realmlessbots are going to shit on everyone
great were nto gonna be able to avoid cancer streamer shit
>>580871592EUsissies... don't try it, you'll end up face down and ass up.
>Have to level up alts for extra skillsPlease I thought I quit Maplestory to get away from this
bow down to your pale beaner infrastructure queen who was probably pretty hot like 15 years ago
>>580871571I don't think you can switch after creating your char
rip 4am mining, always camped by random seamonkey or huehue
private server brownoids on suicide watch
I can't wait to see Asmon roll pvp then complain about getting ganked!
Its starting to be clear that Turtle WoW was bankrolled by Blizzard as a Classic + starting point
>>580871483>>580871516asmon hasn't played wow in years, I doubt he will play this.
>distant sound of thousands of classic players suck starting shotguns
WARMODE
>>580871626They can't afford classic forever anyway, EBT doesn't cover it LOL
>>580871650retail still has realms
>no realmshow the fuck is world chat going to be useable
>/4: LF fresh layer invite
>the last thing an orc sees before i aim shot him dead
>>580871496She’s unfathomably cute ngl
>>580871685She literally said you can switch between normal, pvp, and rp. The only one that is closed off is hardcore.
so NA will be able to play with EUfags?
>realmlessHOLY FUCK NOCAN I NOT AVOID THE SPIC SERVERS?WHAT THE FUCK?PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A JOKE LMAO
POST ELF ASS
>>580871667mmmph... ~
>>580871660bots and streamers will completely ruin this. streamers are known to have cliques with each other and keeping normal nonstreamers excluded from their cliques
>>580871734layers
are we rolling pvp or pve bros
inv to camping layer
>YOU CAN SWITCH PVP OFF >LAYERS>SOUTH PIGS TOGETHER WITH NORTH PIGS HAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH RETAIL MINUS +
>ay esse get in we are saving wowbased
>>580871765No?
sex with nerdy goblinas
>Hardcore characters don't even die they just get transferred to regular rulesetahahaha
>>580871618>Layering>Megaservers>Paid Original The Character race>OH BOY I LOVE THE SPIRIT OF CLASSICMy cheeks are starting to hurt from all the laughter.On the bright side, with everyone on 1 giant sharted megaserver, it'll take way longer to tell the game is dead. Spics especially will just fill out towns for years because they can't afford real games.
>>580871770jajaja meu irmão
>>580871732Realms now are just a surname for 99% of players (outside of RP?).
whats up with mexicans playing blood elves
>>580871810Ey pendeja, we doing no realms siiii?
so how does hardcore work with this system?why would a hardcore player group for a dungeon/raid with regular normies who are most likely gonna fuck something up and get him killed?
>>580871838you just know she smells and i want to inhale it
>>580871794level pve and then go pvp and gank blue elves
fugg I can't just join a low pop realm and run that bitch :DDD
this shit is straight outta retail LMAO
>>580871741KEK
>>580871839isn't that how it works in Diablow
INV TO ASMON LAYER PLS PLS
>>580871504Cry all you want, it’s the players that want megaservers.
>>580871843your welfare check doesn't cover forever, make sure to play on the chink turtle server lil gup!
so wait. pve and pvp players are on the same server?or is it a mega pve server and mega pvp server that you can move in between?
>>580871741based, take out the greennigger TRASH
is there no rp-pvp realm
Get rid of this ESL retard please
can they talk about classes or something this is boring
It was already fucking bad enough having fent zombie camps on Turtle due to fucking tents and now we are going to have this absolutely gamebreaking level feature even worse than free restedxp all over? What the fuck were they thinking?Like it sounds neat on paper, but it's just awful in practice. Why vendors? Why a 34str buff at only level 20 blacksmithing? This seems insane.
>>580871839That's how it works on current HC realms retardo.
>transmog>twow tents>heirloom passives>megaserversso this is their entire deep dive
>playing with more people in my MMORPG is bad actuallyLol do you faggots even like mmos?
>>580871741TOP KEK
I didn't understand. did she say that you can freely move your character between pve pvp and rp? or just that when you die in hc you can pick any of the 3 realms?
Unironically the best part of Forever they've revealed so far.
>>580871921It's war mode.
>megaservers>entire economy is botted to hellno thanks
>>580871896owbeal form is so incredibly kino. low poly looks so good
>>580871896still better than your private server slop
But I don't want to play with Ragnaros brownoids and gypsies what the fuck.
>>580871882you can only group with other hardcore players
>>580871921its just phasing like warmode
>>580871632depends, it would be smart for them to put either pvp or pve on the chicago server and the other on the los angeles server, aussies are just going to have to deal with it tho ping doesn't matter in this game like it does counter strike for instancethey also might have advanced the technology to connect you to the nearest node who could say
>>580871896>those "old" models>modern blizzard employees trying to ape an art style established 30 years ago
CONCEPTUALIZE THE LAG AND CRASHES UUUUUHMMMMM
>horde is my favourite>*plays belf*every single time
>>580871504absolutely no reason not to ninja loot now that I can hop over to the pvp layer or pve layer
>megaservers>kill a streamerfag who decided to go pvp>get banned>instead of just giving them their own serverwow this is actually so fucking gay
>one server >meeting the same player ever againchoose one
I missed the section on tents/camping, what are they?
>>580871896I like this a lot
i dunno do you get more exp for being in warmode or anything?
this retard was brought out to stutter and speak slow to pad the 45 minutes
I'm assuming (hoping) regions are still separate.
>>580871770Solved.
>megaserver slopLMAOOOOOOOnice retoilet- you got there homos
>>580871921You can respawn into a different gametype and the shards are sticky, or something.
>NO MORE SPICS>NO MORE SPICS>NO MORE SPICSBASEDBASEDBASED
>third worlder containment serversHoly fuck its actually saved
>>580871706There’s just more money in the culture war grift pandering to retards like most fags ITT.
so you can filter beaner speak out?
>>580872027are they supposed to play the ugly races like trolls/undead/orcs?
>>580871919Oh I used to be a retailbab with enough alt addiction and bullshit mission board slop that I was entirely F2P.I haven't had anything from blizz on my PC in 7 years, this just seemed like an uncommonly hilarious news cycle.
>>580871896And it's cool.The low poly one actually looks really good.
how the fuck does any of this shit preserve a communityholy fuck blizzard just sniff their own farts
>>580871896You are a colossal faggot if you don't think those look good.
what the fuck is she talking about
>Names and surnames unique per regionWTS CHARLIE KIRK NAME NA 10000USD NO LOWBALLS I KNOW WHAT I HAVE
>>580872082>jajas select english to encounter more playersheh, nothing personel kid
Private server Chads rise up#NOchanges (Except ones I want)who /here/ to troll these blizzdrones for getting classic+>Retail changesWHAT DO YOU MEAN CLASSIC HAS RETAIL CHANGES? THIS ISN'T TURTLELIKE CLASSIC!
>>580872078She literally just said, there's an AI agent monitoring your language and you'll get isolated with others of your kind.
this is why they're doing name reservations btw, preorder and reserve your name or get fucked
I fucking hate playing with spics in wowbuild the digital wall
>language preference what is the chance brazilians actually select portugese what is the chance chinese actually select mandarin
>>580872063why didn't they just use one of their hot employees for this like Bethany Stout
>>580872027She screams femorc warrior
>realmless...so... its... yeah.>>580872052picrel
>>580870726Classic+ was the easiest slam dunk in gaming history. How did they still fuck it up??
>>580872146Broke nigger babble, https://careers.mcdonalds.com/ get applying
>>580871950no it doesn't you retardif you die on hc you have the ability to transfer your character to an era serverthe way this is gonna work is essentially gonna kill the sense of community that existed on hc servers where the further along you got in leveling, the less people there were around and you knew other people by name
Is there EU and NA realms still?
Please banish german players to their own shardsPlease banish russian players to their own shardsPlease banish french players to their own shardsPlease banish portugeese players to their own shardsPlease banish spanish players to their own shardsPlease banish italian players to their own shards
>get invited to a dungeon group>all the players are from ragnaros
I dont understand what Realmless isCan I get a qrd of what she just said?
>>580872216What do you mean? It looks great.
I don't understand that megaserver shit, so you can have chinks play with americans playing with europeans?
>>580872082what does this even meancan i filter out germans and frenchies on the eu realm?
>>580872039streamers completely killed the Faerlina realm in 2019 classic and people act like they wont kill the forever realm either with their clique bullshit streamers completely killed the Faerlina realm in 2019 classic and people act like they wont kill the forever realm either with their clique bullshit streamers completely killed the Faerlina realm in 2019 classic and people act like they wont kill the forever realm either with their clique bullshit streamers completely killed the Faerlina realm in 2019 classic and people act like they wont kill the forever realm either with their clique bullshit streamers completely killed the Faerlina realm in 2019 classic and people act like they wont kill the forever realm either with their clique bullshit streamers completely killed the Faerlina realm in 2019 classic and people act like they wont kill the forever realm either with their clique bullshit
>Chris...oh?>...Zierthutoh
>one server>bots>streamers>retarded discord mega serversthe game will be absolutely unplayable for months. imagine those mobs for quests you had to wait to kill on classic where there is a literal queue. now imagine competing with those for it with all of them in one server
>sudacas are shadowbanned into their own layers and cant escape north of the border
>>580872191chinese, 100%. the jajajas and hues will select english
>>580872114>no russia containment>no china containment
HC won
paladins are fuckin gross
>>580872184That doesn't answer the question. That agent can apply to separate regions like grouping russians together.
PALADIN CHADS RUN THIS SHIT
>>580872216they didnt though, they knocked it out of the park
>threat mattersits over retail bros
>WE LATINX WILL CONQUER ENGLISH LANGUAGE LAYERWE LATINX WILL CONQUER ENGLISH LANGUAGE LAYER>WE LATINX WILL CONQUER ENGLISH LANGUAGE LAYERWE LATINX WILL CONQUER ENGLISH LANGUAGE LAYER>WE LATINX WILL CONQUER ENGLISH LANGUAGE LAYERWE LATINX WILL CONQUER ENGLISH LANGUAGE LAYER
>>580871896megakinoespecially the bottom ones but thats AI i presume?
She was precious. And that announcement was incredibly based.
>>580871734It's 100% going to have LFD (the manual kind) so you won't have to dig through a chat channel for groups.
WHY IS CLASSIC+ ADDING CHANGES THIS ISN'T LIKE MY PRIVATE SERVERINOSWHY IS CLASSIC+ ADDING CHANGES THIS ISN'T LIKE MY PRIVATE SERVERINOSWHY IS CLASSIC+ ADDING CHANGES THIS ISN'T LIKE MY PRIVATE SERVERINOSWHY IS CLASSIC+ ADDING CHANGES THIS ISN'T LIKE MY PRIVATE SERVERINOSWHY IS CLASSIC+ ADDING CHANGES THIS ISN'T LIKE MY PRIVATE SERVERINOS
>>580872207whats the point of this other than throwing up a comfy tent?
ONE SERVER SHARED WITH MILLIONS OF BOTS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HOLY SHIT YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS
dorf racial nerfed to the ground
invite asmon layer plsssss
>>580872267>streamers killed it>look inside>viewers killed itCringe
>>580872330Paladins are the worst class in the game nowHalf their abilities got nerfed and they were already dogshit in classic
Can we get a welfare check on turtle/ascension gups? Think they might be hanging from the ceiling right now
they are only showing paladin because thats the only class they actually redesigned
>>580872271100% they will backtrack on this in 6 months (by then it will be too late)
>>580872259it's just layering, except it's taken up a notch so you don't even get to pick a realm anymore
>paladin devof course. DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
>>580872264Everyone plays on the same realm but you can only see people that selected the same type as you (pve, pvp, rp, hardcore) and the same language preference so it's a bunch of layering
OCE players are getting shafted again aren't they?
Imagine trade chat, will we even have trade chat, how are chat channels going to work
<Yotsuba>European roleplay realmYou join
They need to announce frost mage flash farm AOE nerfs
>>580872082bruh you think those retards will select anything but English? lmfao
>Paladin timeTime to have them explain why streamer opinions that SEAL TWISTING IS LE GOOD ACTUALLY is being forced on everyone
>>580872405I'm trying to call them and NONE of them have answered...I think they all finally went to that great big turtle in the sky bro...
>YOU CAN'T PULL A WHOLE DUNGEON AT ONCEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BASED
>>580872227You are genuinely retarded.HC players won't be on the same layer as normal players.
>crowd control mattersLF2M SPELLCLEAVE
>>580872380how did viewers kill it? streamers killed it by cliqueinfg up and bitching everytime they got ganked because they were being "STREAMSNIPED" . they literally got players banned constantly for "streamsniping" because they got ganked in pvp
>>580872420Light be with you.
>>580872427atleast I might be able to play with my NA friends as a yuro so I take it as a win
i thought you guys wanted a big, lived in world with a ton of people around you like the old days of WoW?
>>580872459fuck esfand
How the fuck does "familiar faces" work? Your account gets assigned a shard out of however many there are?
>>580872259Basically just imagine everyone is in a giant mega server and if an area gets too crowded, it spawns a new copy of the area and shoves some of the people there, and keeps at this process as necessary to try to prevent clog.Even mobile game wannabe MMOs have had this technology for several years.
>>580872350you have to be manually invited to it, you will default to the spic layerthis is a phenomenal change. so many south americans played on NA servers to get away from their own kind and now practically cant
I'm so happy bros. A beautiful global world.
https://youtu.be/YJlVs19-nJY?t=1713 [Embed]>Damage numbers are straight out of retail>Literally nothing can kill you unless you afkHeres your classic plus straight out of blizzard hairy asshole, make sure you faggots open up for the big turd that is sliding out of blizzards chocolate starfish okay?HAHAHAHAHAHA
>we "unsolved" the game by changing the numbersfucking geniuses
>edgemasters nerfed to uselessness>lionheart nerfed to uselessnessWOAH SUCH DEEP INSIGHT
>>580872481Eat shit Mythic shitters
>>580872439Global channels were removed :)
>Paladin dev is a german chvdBASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
>paladin dev wants to slow gameplayAUTO ATTACKING IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS>Cracks up a monster
>>580872430maybe >>580872013i join aus groups all the time on retoilet its really not that bad imo
>>580872517Because they WERE being streamsniped and all these beta bitch cuckboys were chasing them around to be on TV and raid with them.If you even played of Faerlina at all then you are the cancer.
>invite to asmonlayerWill this be a thing don't all the trannies who would do this hate him now?
>>580872535No I want 300 dead servers with 5 bots logged in and one actually populated serverITS NOT THE SAME THING
>>580870981congrats
i only like this because its just azeroth only with no flying
>>580872264They didn't clarify, but the colors on the map were still different based on region so I'm assuming there will still be separate regions because of latency.
edgemasters lmaaaaaoooooooooo
>>580872520>>580872520>>580872520
>>580871839shitposters aren't bringing their best
So we're ALL on the PVP realm right
>>580872610>He hasn't seen the seal twisting paladin capstoneDON'T LOOK BOOMER BRO
>>580872441><Yotsuba>Based.
..........
>>580872027>noooo why isn’t this cute girl playing a smelly orc
>healers can actually quest nowYup im shaman'ing it up
>>580872561NOOOO SH-SHUT UP! IT'S NOT RETAIL-
>warror: created>restedxp guide: loaded>asmon layer invite: receivedyea, we're going home
>"we're unsolving the game">uhhh yeah so stat normalization again, heal gear normalized againyou gay nigga
>>580872686I'm on the RP realm
I wish I could see the turtle/ascension discord seething right now, thousands of ESL third worlders chimping out
>you WILL play with Hernando Gomez and carry his 3rd world ESL ass through the dungeonay caramba...
HEALERBROS.....ARE WE FUCKING SAVED?
>>580872637Faggot streamer Im going to gank all your favorite streamers and ruin their clique faggotry
>>580872647>Will this be a thing don't all the trannies who would do this hate him now?He still pulls like 100k viewers even with his chat locked to the "give twitch your phone number, goy" bait "verified account" mode which you'd have to be a fucking moron to do.
>1 server >millions of bots >millions of layers HOOOORAYYYYYYY
it's so annoying everyone at blizzcon talks like Ron Burgandy
>>580872695I did, its not the autistic version from tbc, thats why esfand the brown shit throwing a hissy fit
>Unsolve the game>Now these 5 items that give WS are mandatory instead of just 1
>>580872342are you having a blast?
>>580872720lmoa
>>580872517>got ganked in pvpkek I remember this.>we're going to invade this fuckass horde town>gets raped>HE'S STREAMSNIPING BAN HIM BLIZZARD!!!
>>580872561i remember the starting zone being easy until you get out of the level 6 area
>>580872720SEETHING NILLERS BTFO YOU DONT NEED TO RMT EDGIES NOW
the pservertrannies are LOSING IT kek
WORGEN CONFIRMED
>>580872764every thirdie magenigger you group with takes your healer dress
I'm not gonna like this super niche trinket stuff
>>580872758none of this shit is ever gonna be used because people will just stack damage and blast through content ignoring mechanics
WHY ARE THEY ADDING NEW RACES VIDEOGAMES HAVE NEVER ADDED A NEW PAID RACE BEFORE THIS IS NOT CLASSICWHY ARE THEY MAKING CHANGES TO GAMEPLAY THIS IS NOT CLASSICWHY ARE THEY ADDING NEW DUNGEONS AND RAIDS THIS IS NOT CLASSICWHY ARE THEY MAKING CLASSIC+ THIS IS NOT CLASSIC
>species based effectsbit racist no?
>everything is updated to raregay
DUDE I NEED MY 2% MOVEMENT SPEED INCREASE IN ELWYNN FOREST STAFF
>>580872720will still sell for 8k gold
>>580872774as opposed to>10 servers>1 alive with 1 million bots and 1 million queue>9 dead
>>580872803no i dont play marathon
>>580872764HealCHUD here...I WILL keep you alive.If I feel like it.
>a shaman killing mor'ladimwhat the FUCK is he talking about?
>>580872342a true return to form
>>580872784They're Californians, retard.
Oh Nonononononononononono they're super optimizing all loot now. TRULY CLASSIC
>>580872851steal our game? we steal your ideas :^)
I don't like the megaserver shit either, but you people complaining about it act like it hasn't been the reality for the last 5 years of the game.
Doomers BTFO'D, imagine being sour right now
>WoW Forever adds more to the game than MidnightLOL
>>580872718The Yotsuba private server vg clique is most feared
>>580872875>VIDEOGAMES HAVE NEVER ADDED A NEW PAID RACE BEFOREWeird how that goalpost is "video games" and not "WoW" which has not done so.
>we made the game easier hehe>we made getting optimal gear easier hehe>we removed all friction and inconveniencesjust like my hecking retail wow!!!!
>>580872720>remove expertise>rename it reduce the chance to miss
crazy crazy item powercreep, feels sus
YES, LET'S REMOVE ALL FRICTION AND UNIQUENESS OF GEAR
>>580872917the new blue skin elfs
>>580872817I remember seeing a video from asmon of him ganking horde players, then they ganked him back and he proceeded to spend the next 2 hours whining that he was being STREAMSNIPED and saying how much he hates worldpvp Streamers are known to bitch when anyone does something to them ingame. I hate them so much its unrea;l
what if i dont want a xbow or bow and i want a gun
I'm going PvE server to avoid all the streamer shit.
>classic plus>they're making changescant fucking believe it dude this is bullshit how can they change the game for the new version fo the game
>quests have a variety of useful gear for all specsthat doesn't sound like old world flavor to me chuddie
bros i can't wait to have mages and locks steal my healing gear because it has +1 spell power on it that's gonna be really cool
>every single quest needs to have rewards for every single class/spec
This is slop
>>580872917anon... dwarfs can be shamans in WoW Forever...>>580872938>noooo I NEED my +strength and +agility on my cloth gloves!
>buffed skullflame shieldlol lmao
This is all so fucking kino.
TWO STATS>OFFENSE>DEFENSE
>>580873013Blue Skin elves cant be Shaman on alliance.Dwarf Shaman are.
>>580872989mmos have sold expacs and paid races since the 90s lil gup you're just here to shit on blizz 4thelulz
I can't believe Blizz is actually doing it
>>580873063i mean its kinda nice otherwise theres not much a reason to not dungeon spam
RETOILET FOREVER SLOP LMAO TAINTED BY SHTSKINS SINCE DAY 1
nothing for the taurens, like always
>>580872758>wasting this on wow players>this will get ignored for 90% efficiency items instead and people will say this game mode is boringalready see it happening
>erm there needs to be literally worthless garbage from quests like vanilla>that is le mmorpg sovl>change is bad btw
THEY ARE SLOPPING UP THE ITEMIZATION LOL ITS ALL GONNA BE PERFECTED AND STREAMLINED NOWWOW VERY CLASSIC AMAZING TRULY
Wonder what the other race class combos are going to be
>we got Blood Elf druid in Classic before the real gamesad
>we want to maintain the sense of community and running into the same people>..... so we are going to group people with the same language preference together!??????????????????/
#nochanges#notclassic
Dwarves will be OP in the Zul Gurub raid.
>>580873063better than needing to dungeon spam constantly instead
>>580873189Since new models are in I imagine Troll Druids will eventually happen. Their shake shift forms are GOATed.
>>580873063they are incapable of thinking of the game as anything but retail in the overworld of classic wow
>>580873203all the new features will be in future from now on. retoilet is dead
>>580873253>thinking you need to minmax for ZG
>>580871896vanilla did not look like this.
>>580873169the magic with classic itemization was that it made no sense and players had to make do with random items
>>580873203>the real gameThis is the real game now
>baiting world first sweatlords to race change between every bossDevilish
>>580873203Forever is the real game now
>>580873118>goalpost still moves to "mmos", goalpost expanded to "expansions"And yet WoW has never sold only a paywalled race until now.Will you keep slurping when it's a p2w Spec?A p2w Class?What about p2w bonus/lucky loot tokens like Diablo Immortal?After all, other games monetize plenty of things, so that makes it okay, right?
Isn't this a bit OP?
oh boy i cant wait to hear what he has to say about the absolute broken gnome racials
>umm this totally isn't Retail minus ok??? it just isnt
>2 min cd on wotf
>>580873358>And yet WoW has never sold only a paywalled race until now.Draenai
>add faggot elves>buff paladin by 99999999%>1000 chatgpt quests>add retail mountsthat'll be 88$+ tip
>>580871896>HURR DURR JuST lower the polygons now its classic!
>>580873278Yep, thats by far the worst thing and is absolutely ridiculous. Its exactly the streamlining that killed the game in the first place
>you will have 150 spellpower by lvl 25 and are 2 shotting mobs with fireballjust like hecking retail
>>580873010Tell me what's unique about garbage loot that nobody will ever use.Reminder that the item designer for vanilla said his biggest regret was making so many garbage items.
>balanceslop not a fan desu
>>580873358>paywalled racenigger what are you talking about?
>>580873378Guarantee you it has a meaningful ICD.
>>580873378yes. testers already confirmed no ICD.
>>580873378you have shadowmeld, sybau tranny freak
>>580873132Plainsrunning is cool but other racials seem way too OP in comparison. Like Troll with a 50% heal or Undead with lifesteal? How do you not make a warrior troll or undead then.
>>580873128>>580873269>implying people aren't gonna be dungeonspamming anyways
>>580873378>"up to"It's up to OP but could be total trash.
>>580873378>icd 15 seconds
>>580873378Mostl likely has a 2min cooldown
SHAMAN TANK INCOMING SHAMAN TANK INCOMING SHAMAN TANK INCOMING SHAMAN TANK INCOMING SHAMAN TANK INCOMING SHAMAN TANK INCOMING
>>580873378unbelievably.
So Alliance and Horde arent able to play together?So im not allowed to play with 50% of the playerbase?So Im legally not allowed to be friends with my friends anymore because Blizzard decided Undead Paladins should exist and they rather play Horde now?Thanks Blizzard. wow Forever more like Wow fuck you for having friends who rather be smelly orcs instead of a human.
>>580873010>Ingoring 99% of gear because it's worthless>frictionretard
I WANT PANDAS
soda already went through all of the talents
>>580873469Your legally distinct High Elves are $30
dont worry doomers I'm sure octowow is still kicking lmao
pvp specs should be good in raids
>they moving away from support specfirst big L for me
they're going to have to nerf warriors a lot if they want to keep people from stacking them
>>580871896the bottom is AI you dumb retards
>>580873510Millions will play, crossfaction play is only for dead game modes
Toilet just got flushed!
>>580873326Yeah bro the magic of looking up your item progression spreadsheet and vendoring everything else you get bro so SOVL KINO SOVL!!!!!
>perfect balance in dungeon and raids for all specsparsetroons seething
>>580873480I wont, especially now since it seems like it wont be absolutely necessary to do so.I will only do dungeons to get pieces of loot I want.Questing has always been my favorite way of leveling.
most of this thread doesn't and won't play and is just here to shitpost a game they haven't touched since 2014
>>580873378that average out to 5% of 5% damage, or 0.0025%.
>>580873510Literally just faction change. It's only like $25.
>>580873378"up to 5%" is crucial here. is it always 5% of your max health? if so then undead is bis for any physical class that can play them. is 5% simply the max and it can do less? its very shaky depending on what that damage is and what procs it
>>580873471>>580873472>>580873487>>580873491dumbshits don't know what PASSIVE means. it's factored into every attack
>watch video on Classic classes for Forever>only tank: warrior>druid is next but you have to farm some 3 use weapon 5 times before every instanceclassicdads are you serious?
>>580872758What the hell are these stats they are insane? 48HSP on staff of fucking westfall? Are we just going to be twinked out of our minds all the way to 60? This is going to be an absolute joke unless they crazily overtuned the mobs.
Forever is dead on arrival or dead after 6 months MAX
>every zone full of quests with optimal rewards for your classhave they even thought about, how getting GOOD gear upgrades actually feels good BECAUSE it's hard to find good gear upgradesthey literally dont understand how classic dopamine works.
>paladin panelits a new age
>you don't want retail strike in ploos?>HERE IS RETAIL STRIKE (HOLY)
>>580873631the opposite. everyone is shitting on the game and will play it anyway
I thought you guys wanted the WAR back in WARCRAFT, why do you wanna play with the horde as alliance and vice versa?
isn't it a massive mistake to have a beta for this?
undead hunteeer
i see this is just paladin expansion for vanilla
so how does realmless work?, i want a pvp server
Bro wtf is this shit
I would rather shit be broken as fuck off the rip and nerfed later rather than shit be weak as fuck forever
>>580870726>hunter in forever>20% lone wolf>already 1500 aimed crits>1200 multi crits>in dungeon blues>still can't earn a dps spot in raidsIt's fucking retarded no matter how you slice it. In the 6 seconds(gcd+4 second cast +2 second travel time) it takes a hunter to dish out an 1800-2k aimed, if it crits, the warrior hits the boss 8 times for a combined 4-5k. The Hunter didn't need more burst damage. The Hunter needed DPS through synergy and scalability. A good start would have been making the pet immune to all AOE effects. That's an easy 250dps right there. Maybe boost pet damage by a flat 10%. But the Hunter did not need more burst.
>lead balance dev>makes paladin OPI swear I've seen this somewhere before.
horde is going to be 50% undead paladins and 50% blue elves enjoy that shit niggas
HUMANMALEPALADINWONAGAIN
>All of this doomposting>Just for the servers to max out day 1 of beta and release again with 99% purchasing the passes/races
>>580873740You pick PVP when you log in and only see other PVP players
>>580873720sod didn't have a beta and was horribly balanced shit
>>580873669>esl doesnt know passives can and have icds
>>580873378>Undead Rogue uses Sap>racial triggers>Sap removeddid they kill undead rogues ?
>>580873720Yes it will be minmaxxed before release.
>target capslol this isn't retail minus guys b-because it just isnt!!!
Conc nerfed lol
LMFAO AT THE MEGASERVER WITH NO ESCAPE FROM BOTS
>>580873669Do you not know what an ICD is, you fucking brainlet? Rogue poisons have one.
>>580873720easy to farm $60 editions off fomo addicts
>>580873701>this spell from 2004 beta is retailermm
>>580873797Undead Paladin > Human Paladin
>Judgement doesn't remove seals anymoreOk maybe the seal twisting talent isn't THAT bad, but I still don't like it.
>>580873441>>580873526if every upgrade is optimal then no upgrade actually feels meaningfulalso you are expected to use white vendor weapons in a lot of hardcore lvling routes. what you think is "garbage" usually isnt.
>>580873441> Tell me what's unique about garbage loot that nobody will ever use.Uh, yeah, it’s called ”SOVL”, you wouldn’t get it.
>>580872758I want to like this, but come the fuck on Blizzard. We still have only 16 slot base backpacks because of your shit ass spaghetti code that constantly breaks. Are you going to give us 20+ slot bags so I can carry around all this fucking unique gear????
>>580873701retard
>>580873813so servers will share an economy??what about HC?
>>580873441Not every quest needs to cater to every spec.The defias set is one of the first sets that gives you a set bonus. If you want the bonus you would need to wear green gear and had a choice. If everything is just good, everything is boring.You need "garbage" for good items to stand out and they can still be an upgrade during leveling if you've been unlucky.
i am a paladin, woe is me :(
palachads eating good
stop making changes this isn't like my private server
yeah its over
I just wanted the old ui back, why did they use the soulless retail one please im so sad
>>580873826UD rogues aren't going to use sap anymore, because some human hunter marks them from max range before they get even close
>we're going to keep the classes distinct>except for all these talents we're copy-pasting between the classesyeah
>>580873850we've been playing megaservers for years, lil gup
These paladin talents are ass what the fuck
yeah this is kino
>paladins get everything and warriors get nothing
>>580873790>>580873845>>580873847>>580873931>>580873958i love you faggots
>>580873883>if every upgrade is optimal then no upgrade actually feels meaningfulWelcome to horizontal progression?Thats what retards asked for
>>580873983you can set it to the old UI
>>580873983there are multiple ui options
WoW Forever: Play a paladin or fuck off
I REALLY hope they increase the difficulty and xp required for forever. Classes are being given so many buffs i feel like we're gonna be overpowered, plus with 1000+ new quests leveling is probably going to be too quick without some adjusting.
So you can freely switch between pvp and pve on the mega server?what is the point?
I wish they didn't focus on Paladins so much, there's already going to be too many of them, I don't need even more competition.
Holy shit these holy talents are bad
okay this is awesome
>>580873883>we added some new quest rewards and made world drop epics not 99% worthless>OH MY GOD ITS RETAIL ITS RETAIL OH MY GOOOODyou are genuinely retarded
>>580873983good thing they have the old UI for boomers like you
>>580874063The damage esfand has done to classic cannot be overstated
I'm a retail chad and I'm sorry for you guysthese talents are just copy pasted from retail quite literally.Forever is 100% going to be the bridge to get you to play Retail.
Ya ourboy won
palachads, we need EMERGENCY DOWNPLAYING, NOW!!!!
browns crying kekaroo
>paladins get a healing version of seed of corruptionwow, such innovative game design
no1 is gonna play tanks anyway classicfags are mostly sub 80 IQ boomers
Surely they buffed the whole world and instances because of all the powercrept itemization and talents..?
So paladin is just OP, humans are also the strongest in pvp too So much for classic, retoilet forever
>>580873983if even if they return the UI via a toggle you just know some autist will make a addon within 2 days
>>580873803>celebrating the victory of sovlless cashgrab corpo sloptribalists really are retarded cattle
>>580874073did they say that?
>>580874060>>580874054no the toggle changes the position of the unit frames and nothing else, the ui is the exact retail for everything
I wanted to be a druid but they're still clunky as fuck, its clear paladins are getting all the focus so I guess I gotta be a paladin.
forsaken paladin will be the most played race/class combo
>>580874073>>580874202it's unclear if you can switch from pve and pvp rulesets. the retarded spic just glossed over it
>not as good as priest or druid in healing>the ability is flat out more powerful than any other healing spell jesus christ
>>580874065They literally did that in SoD. No shit they're going to buff mobs.
>>580874065>"I hope they make the forever version of the vanilla game difficult"lmfao it's gonna be easy as fuck because most classic players are dogshit at video games
>>580874150CLOSE THE DISCORDWE NEED BUFFS BLIZZARDthis happened and worked btw
>>580874234And they will wear the dress
>>580873985lmfao get fucking rekt skellyfag >warriors get nothingthere’s some silver lining at least.
>>580874234belf druid will
>>580874135No they arentThese classes are nowhere close to retail (and thats a bad thing, retail classes are better)Ascension was close to retail
>>580874220druid is kick on sight sorry you spend $30 on your blue waifu
>palaslop
>>580874023>The worst class gets more changes than the best classWew, how unexpected.
Does anyone know if Paladin Judgment has a GDC added to it since it will no longer consume the seal?
Half this panel is just paladin patch notes
I wanna do warlock succubus locksuccubus leg lock, if you will
>>580874135Maybe if retail wasn't such a dogshit experience for new players this server wouldn't have to exist. That's the whole point of forever, get a new wave of players into a simpler fresh start.
when will they talk about warrior
>paladins now become meta over warriori hate this shit
what stage of Runescape Old School are we at?
>>580874035horizontal progression means your progression isn't outdated ever, it has nothing to do with leveling.>>580874112when everything is hyper-optimized towards instant gratification, you end up with a samey feeling game, and quick burnout.
Is Ret Paladins getting WoTF more OP than getting Stun removal?
paladin players need to just be buff bots fuck you retarded FAGGOTS DIE
>>580874234It's going to be hard to compete with the not bloodelfs, but since those don't get access to pala, UD might have a chance.
>>580874278you can switch between pve pvp rp freely, you can switch from hardcore to pve pvp rp on death
are you forced to have a second name? or can you just have a first
I don't get itdo they want half of the playerbase to be playing paladin?
paladin will be the most played class
they fixed every single thing, holy shit
>normalize gear>normalize talents>normalize quests rewardshere's your classic+ :^)
PVE OR PVP SERVER?Pros and cons pls
Was disc priest in classic?
>>580873005expertise didn't exist until TBC lil gup
>>580874407>you can switch between pve pvp rp freelysource?
>>580874160its actually a weird reimagining of beacon of virtue same thing with the immune to silence talent its just a shittier version of aura mastery
>>580873605Cross faction play is so that I can be a Human Paladin and my friend can be a Undead Paladin and we can both be happy with our choice of race instead of forcing one of us to play the other and be unhappy just so we can play together and remain friends.I already played Classic and was forced to play Horde to play with my friend group.Even if I enjoyed playing with my friends there was still always that little bit of annoyance of being stuck sitting in a fucking mudhut in Orgrimmar instead of chillin in Stormwind.
>>580873803-1
>>580874412forced to have a second name, can display only first names in game
>>580874339New players dont want to play a game made for 35 year old losers
what the fuck
>>580874446retard
>>580874376>having a couple extra decent items is instant gratificationGuarantee you played ascension and called it good.
>>580874375the one when the gnome stronghold slayer cave was created with every monster in the game so the playerbase would be consolidated so it looked like it was less dead
>lead devs class is giga overtunedWho could have predicted this
WE LOVE SEAL TWISTING HERE
>>580874446PvE is the gamePvP is the game but you can get ganked sometimes, and gank sometimes
>>580874415paladins are an extremely popular class and they reworked the paladin trees more than any other class because it had so many issues before
They didnt show holy shield because they nerfed it lol
>>580874446pve. all the parasocial losers will be in pvp
>sod 2 retail remixthis shit will be dead in 6 months
>>580874446No servers anymore, anon. You just pick a ruleset.
please move on
>>580874446the autistic ESL girl confirmed you switch between "rulesets" now instead of picking a pve/pvp/rp server
>I REALLY hope they increase the difficulty and xp required for foreverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJlVs19-nJY&t=1713ssorry to break it to you, but it's just SoDslop
retards that can't figure out a swing timer should not be catered to
>Wow Paladins are so OPYou haven't seen the changes to other classes.You haven't tested anything.Is everyone here so low IQ they can only process what they are seeing at that moment?
>>580874540we're here forever anon
SEAL TWISTING JUST LIKE MY POGGIES STREAMER LIKES
>>580874234This is why I'm going to tank on mine, so that I actually get to rise above the ret horde
thinking of making a camp, guys.
>SEAL SHITTING BTFOSEAL SHITTING BTFO
>>580874469you're watching the source you fucking retard
tf?paladin didn't have a kick in classic?holy shit thats awful
What the fuck is seal twisting? Is that a retail thing?
>>580871706he already confirmed he's going to play it and go all in on it.
Do Paladin extra damage against Undead also mean pvp?
>limited party healing>LIMITED PARTY HEALING>FULL PARTY HOLY LIGHT FOR THE COST OF 1.5 SEC EXTRA CAST TIME??ARE YOU STUPID???
>d00d paladinI literally don't care stfu
>>580874590We know the talent trees and new abilities, no other class gets as much as paladin
without armor type restrictions on transmog, female warriors would able to use cloth legs with a similar colored shirt, then combine that with a plate chest and plate in the other slots as well. maybe leather boots. you can make fairly modest and grounded appearances by mixing and matching in this way. instead theyre going to be forced into the small handful of classic-era slutplate sets available. they're all going to look like rancid whores. is this based?
>>580874469His ass.
>>580874662never
classic was never hard btw
>Crit shockadin for a ret palaYup, they're 100% gonna get nerfed due to PvP
No shaman tanks?RIP
not watching that shitskin grifter kys
>spend an hour talking about paladins>sorry not enough time to talk about every class buy the betaLOL
>>580874590This thread is /wpsg/ ERP trannies seething that their dead shit servers will never recover after this.
Wtf how long is this panel? They've been on paladins for like 15mins
>classes WILL have WEAKNESSES>adds abilities, class changes, and talents to get rid of these weaknesses>classes WILL have FEW WEAKNESSES>this is just retail-this isnt vanilla wtf
>>580874590>Is everyone here so low IQ they can only process what they are seeing at that moment?yes
RATE THE WOW FOREVER DEEP DIVE
>paladin is the best single target healerI don't see how they're better than the gigabuffed disc priest.
They're actually putting a lot of effort into this?
WHAT THE FUCK YOU GUYS TOLD ME PALADINS WERE SHIT IN FOREVER, YOU FUCKING LIED TO ME THEY'RE BROKEN
>>580874546but u can toggle them off and on?
>>580874662Playable undead are humanoids in regards to skills.
Shaaaaaaaatt I am Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeetoilet flushing shaaaaaaaaat WoW Forever!! classic + shaaaaaaaat paladin op!
damn im glad that guy explained everything i already learned after reading the new talents this morning
>>580874653its something ret paladins do so their gameplay doesn't consist of just looking at their screen while their character autoattacks
>>580874479Poor baby. It's called WARcraft. Pick a side
>>580874743Shallow dive
>>580874684>hasn't looked at Warlock>hasn't looked at Mage>hasn't looked at Druid
>competitive damage>best single target healer>"great" tank (whatever that means)yeah the servers are gonna be 90% human/ud pallys i bet
>>580874749of course they do. classic is the biggest player base.
>>580874685there are no limitations at lvl60
>>580874653no you don't even have seals in retail, its some cringe shit pserfs cooked upvanilla paladin design is awful
>>580874513>couple extrathey added 1000 new quests, and they optimized old rewards. you are straight up coping if you think you are ever leaving a zone without having complete up to do date gear, as if you were wearing heirlooms.
>spend half the show on fucking paladins
>that's it
>>580874828Just like turtle and epoch
>>58087474310/10 loved it
>>580874639when did she say you can freely transfer from rulesets?
>>580874828That's why there are mega servers
>>580874749They should, this is litterally the single profitable product in microslop
>>580874739So true warrior sister. It's just not TRVE CLASSIC if there's more than one viable class.
There are two classes in WoW; Paladins and Sidekicks
>>580874845>its some cringe shit pserfs cooked upAre you stupid?
>>580874828but It's ok when warriors are the best dps and the only tanks, huh?
>>580874739The sooner you realise FORVER is not VANILLA and RETAIL LITE the better.Retail NEW PLAYER EXPERIENCE is AWFULForever will be the NEW NEW PLAYER EXPERIENCE that gets you to play RETAIL because RETAIL classes are literally SLIGHTLY harder versions of FOREVER classes
retail is when I don't like itthe more I don't like it the more retail it is
>>580874863He's been a paladin main since 2004What did you expect?
nice game retards.pallys just gamebreakingly broken, everything else is shit
>>580874828The prot talents are rancid shit compared to warriors and druids.And mangle now hits 3 targets so what the fuck are they doing nerfing conc and calling paladins the """aoe tank"""These niggers lying through their teeth
>>580874749i would hope after 3 years they put in the bare minimum effort like we are seeingimagine if they just gave us rehased sod...
>consecration in the gutterthis is war
>>580874748when your priest goes oom, the holy chad will be at 90% mana and mogging you on the meters
>>580874832is it though? i dont think it was after the initial 2019 iteration once TBCC started
>>580874684>no other class gets as much as paladin>The class with one viable spec that only spammed 1 spell gets more love than meta classesHow could this be?!?!?!?
you think the panel at 2:15 is gonna be retail only? kinda disappointed they didnt cover PVP at all in this deep dive panel. theres been zero discussion on new world pvp events like SoD which means its gonna be boring BG spam forever
Fuck so these are my 3 classes Ill be playingUndead RogueUndead WarlockUndead Paladin
>>580874863paladins were easily one of the most neglected classes in vanilla/classic, it makes sense that they'd give them the spotlight here
>>580874828they did this because everyones gonna roll ud / human pala, it's basically a free campaing
>>580874743ALL THE WAY FROM SHIT TO FUCKING SHIT
I cant watch atm, is all this dooming about Paladins actually real? The talents didn't seem that amazing when I went over them for Ret. Seal Twisting is a meme after all. Holy looked really good though.
Soda went through literally every single talent for every class yesterday btw.
Hold still /wowg/, this will only hurta LOT
>>580874863classic paladins were super garbage
>lf1m paladin tank quick dungeon clear leveling pst
Is wow forever free if you have a sub or do you have to buy it?
So what did Druids get? Hows feral?
So now that we know paladins are the hero class of forever, which paladin race are you vros rollin?
>>580874918you've played forever pally already?
>>580874917him to be a professional instead of a fanboy?>>580874957>>580875018speaking of which
>>580874984*miss*
>>580874863yeah because they sucked in vanilla
>all this warrior seetheyou had 25 years you retarded parsetrannies
>>580874739I like how that slide said pallies have limited party healing when Light's Vigil is essentially just better chain heal lmao
is the UI that shitty retail onesurely they'd have a toggle for the normal one
>>580875037You only have to play if you want to play skelf or get beta access
>>580874930Yeah except illumination was nerfed by half and you need to AoE heal to get mana back. Meanwhile priests got gigabuffed and paladins won't even get HL off before penance lands and aegis adds a free shield on top of that.
>>580875037the game is free as long as you have a sub
>>580874893thanks sis im glad you realize making hybrids do everything well is retail logic
FOREVER ONE SERVER BECAUSE THEY KNOW NO ONES GONNA PLAY
>>580875037free with a sub unless you want to play the new race then you hajve to buy the one race
I don't want to play a Paladin and for that reason I'm out.WoW Forever? More like WoW Palever.Fucking nigger holy fags.
>>580875049https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neTPC3rkJRs
>>580875037$60 plus sub
I already beat the game as warrior in 2019they should make warriors shit so I don't have to play a warrior again
LF2M DM SPELLCLEAVE, /w class
>>580875037it's free, but you have to pay to unlock skelfies
>>580874909You were not supposed to point that out bro.
>>580875086it's like half your mana pool to cast it once
shaaaaaaat we are all in a mega server мeгacepвep超级服务器!!el megaserver chingaugu bu mufuga
>>580874903maybe, but i don't see how thats relevant.
>>580875123>>580875127thanks for answering my question. I will wait for the full release.
>>580875159Just play a warlock and rape them
>>580875051Dwarf Shaman
>Putting a taunt on a damage abilityIs blizzard retarded?They already learned its a huge mistake
4 fucking threads in /vg/jesus christ man
>>580874796I did pick a side.I picked Alliance.But my friends picked Horde.So we legally arent allowed to be friends because Blizzard wants to use some old ass 20 year old game design of racism in a videogame.Whats the point of talking about all of this "We want players to play the way they want." bullshit if thats a fucking lie right at character crreation?
why is having a packed server bad all of a sudden?
>>580875224PATCHWERK FAT AMERICANINTENTIONAL PAIN RIVER
>Uther doesnt appear to give you a high-five and tell you how awesome you are when you kill a mobWhy does Blizzard hate Paladins so much bros ?
>>580875145>hoped the private server tranny, for the 10th time, desperate for people to join his slop server ran by some gopniks in a shed
welp back to SoD I go
WARRIORS SEETHINGAdd FemGobs and Draenei to Forever pls
>>580875049Feral looks much better in pve, but will probably still be the worst druid pvp build
>>580874375Runescape 3
>>580875262well one is a duplicate
>>580874956you have to level all classes to max for legacy bonuses or no invite
>>580875262Forever is going to be 2019 lite in terms of massive players coming to visit for a few months.
>>580875262>best version doesn't have a threadimagine my shock
>>580875298>SoDis this still a thing?
>>580875262worlo warcra forvo
so you can freely toggle pvp to pve on char select? or is it like warmode in retail with a toggle?
so in what universe is the dungeon meta not going to be pally tank and 3 mages/locks again and then the random healer
the best news was that i can play with my own kind>click my language>balkan mafia dissappearsfeel sorry for people that only speak english they will still be stuck in berlin
white (german) dev for the white (european) class. shitskins are seething at this fact
>Prot has no ranged pullinglmao blizzard, good luck with that.
>>580875141>Healer/DPS is a hybrid!!! Hybrid tax!!!>Tank/DPS is NOT a hybrid, okay??? THE BEST TANK SHOULD ALSO BE THE BEST DPS!!!
>>580875310Swipe is still caped at 3 targets right?
>>580875353no /wowsod/...
can i toggle paladins to go back to being shit again?
>>580875359Wowowawafe
>>580875286it's not?
>>580875262>4
>>580875224LMAO HOLY SHITA RETOILET - >>580875374The only true fact.
>>580875284If you played the faction you didn't want to last time for your friend, then he should do that for you this time.Sounds like a shit friend otherwise.
>>580875418Yeah, it's called Classic Era
>>580874841nah, i watched it again and he was just talking about the level restriction
It's just retail
>deep dive>half of the time is spent talking about paladins>still have no idea what the pvp ranking system will look like or if arena is even in the gameErm...?
>>580875262illegal pirate servers shouldnt be allowed on /vg/
private server trannies are in full blown cope
>>580875296They even stole Slavshit server ideas with the Pay2BlueElf move theres no escaping how shitty this is only difference is you gotta fuck a tranny dev for P2W GM items with Blizz
So what class is going to be the most unique come Forever. I already know Paladin and Shaman will be everywhere.
>>580875427what happened to wow classic thread? guess theres not enough interest?
>>580875242You have holy strike for damage and a skill to reset the cooldown on judgement in case you need the taunt in a pinch, but I'm not sure I like it either. I guess it's more interesting that it being a direct taunt like other classes, and there's some decision making in using it for damage and risking not having a taunt ready, but I'm not sure if it will be fun.
>>580875476You said the same thing about SoD
Reminder /wowcg/ had a sticky the first week 2019. Will we be able to do it again?
>>580875541warrior
>not one mention of new world pvp systems
>>580875541it'll be 80% paladin, 5% warrior, 4% mage and 1% everyone else
That was the worst 'deep dive' I've ever witnessed. What if I don't give a fuck about Paladins? Where is the deep dive on my class (Shaman)?
>>580875372what makes you think they won't also click "english" lol
wheres sanct aura
>>580875520>this is 4chan follow the law!!!!11Poorserver fags are insufferable, but somehow you're still worse.
>>580875541rogue for sure
>>580875529what will you do when there are no P2W items?will you finally hang yourself?
>>580875541shadow priest
>>580875541Probably rogue because they get jack shit
>>580875541shaman on alliance for sure
>>580875418Are you high they look like ass.Did you see the holy tree? Who the fuck wants to spend 3k mana for a party heal when you can just play druid who heals for more without jumping through a bunch of hoops?Prot tree was also a fucking mess with judge taunt being a horrible idea, holy shield is still ass, and they got a SINGLE talent that increases their DR. While warrior and druid are getting 30%.Its a fucking joke
>>580875585Forever will be dead within a month
>still no word on what will happen to anni or mop characters
>>580874942The fact that the main announcement was WoW Forever and not anything Retail beyond that Titan Cinematic should speak for itself
>>580875394>anon realizes warriors are just better at their base line things>anon finally gets hybrids have access to all 3 roles at once>they finally enlighten themselves of the hybrid taxglad i could educate you :)
>anon finds out people in 2026 dont actually like open world pvp
>>580874743Open questions:>what a megaserver acutally means>is it split between continents?>is there going to be one single auction house?>how will layering actually function in the world?>dungeon finder?>port stones?>world buffs?>end game horizontal progression?>pvp anything?>economy? >bots?
Classic+ chads wonned biggestly they got everything they wanted with promises for more in the future
>>580875541spriest balance and survival
>>580875623Deep dive on my balls.
>>580875162Is feral attack power a thing or are weapons stat sticks?
Talking about every Paladin talent change was more important
>realmless >you're forced together with low iq subhumans >lgtb+++++>paid slop >pvp toggable slop >"new" (not really new) slop >we added an artificial wall to make it feel longer LMAO LOL LMAO LOL LMAO LOL
>>580875560it revived for Blizzcon and then turned into /wowfg/
>>580875623theres another deep dive later on but yeah spending half the showcase wanking off paladin is a bad sign
can you flag for both pvp and rp?
What is paladins worst pvp matchup?Im rolling that
>>580875585Every game studio fleeing from November makes it easier to happen. Until the end of the month all that's releasing is Forever and OoT remake
>>580875623Just read the talents yourself you fucking moron.
Anybody else happy that they only have to pay the sub fee?imagine paying for those goofy ass elves. Power to the forsaken!
>>580875695yeah well maybe its good they don't waste any time pandering to the remaining 50 anniversary players
>>580875560everyone jumped to this general. no reason for it anymore lmao
>>580875472are you retarded? what level restriction would affect a lvl60 character? its about armor type, lvl60s can look whatever they want, naked warriors and mages in plate armor
>>580875625you misunderstood my postenglish is not my first language so i can leave the international hellhole behindi vill play with my countrymen and i vill be happy
>>580875623cute kot
>remove all threat and danger from the overworld>make getting gear upgrades a non-issue>wotlk/tbc abilities vs mobs from 2004, while you are basically in twinked gear there's no vision, they are just throwing their retail design book at the game and hoping this time it will work
>>580875623im gonna deep dive on your dick
>>580875771
>>580875840Can you read them to me instead, anon?
>>580875541Warlock if you're on alliance
>>580875831wtf is flagging for RP?
>>580875715>people in 2026carebears existed in 2006 as well. pvp will still be more popular.
>>580875567It's far more change than was ever envisioned with SoD or a true Classic Plus. It's literally a soft move towards retail type itemization and balance that tries to capture both the retail and boomer nostalgia crowd. Not even going to get into the completely soulless and worrisome aspects of megaserver with no true communities.
>>580875695Good, honestly. It's fun watching them seethe over Forever
>>580875834lock
>>580875560some pserf tard made a shitpost general right after the opening ceremony so they killed it and made /wowfg/ after
>>580875889gay
>>580875834Hunter
why yes im going to play dwarf prot pally, what gave it away?
>>580875685i think there will be a horde of them at launch but most wont hit 60. anybody that is a poopsocker will play horde shaman because of how shit dwarf racials are
>Why was the deep dive too shortBETA IS NEXT WEEK AND WE'LL KNOW LITERALLY EVERYTHING BY THE TIME BETA HITS FROM DATAMINING ALONE
Do we know if shaman has dual wield or not?
>>580875880they're really gonna have to buff the mobs to compete with how powered up the players are but i haven't seen one single mention of that at all
>>580875758Feral AP is kill and MCP is 3m CD now. The spec has been saved.
>glaive niggas who spent a whole year building a guild and now just lost their entire roster over a weekend
so no rp-pvp layer option?
>>580875880I said yesterday Forever will be nothing but a raid logging troons paradise and this just confirms it.
The running animations are the classic ones but the idle and attack animations use the retail rig, looks off after playing it
>>580875541Always druid, even when good no one plays those poor pathetic bastardst. boomkin main
>>580875834ur average huntard rapes most pallys
>>580875915>add pvp toggle>it always leads to no one pvpingunfortunately this is just the reality of thingsand these retards will chant for it
>>580876004this wont happen because Forever! is for friends and family!
>>580875560All 3 remaining /wowcg/ posters are in the general posting on cooldown so it died.
wtb asmon layer
>>580876051LMAO
>>580875951not anymore, paladins have passive 20% movement speed and ranged damage abilities, hunters practically can not kite them anymore
>>580876069source on there being a toggle?
>>580875162Do these new races not have SD models? What the fuck is this lazy shit?
>>580875715Nobody ever liked "world pvp", they liked being toxic little ganker faggots and went to the forums to cry for nerfs when someone beat them. They're the lowest pathetic scum of players, and they hate PVE chads because there's no excuse for sucking like that in PVE.
>>58087608150 silver pay upfront
>>580875541warlock > druid/shaman > priest
>>580875880Our response, Foreverkeks?Because this seems pretty accurate. Why did we think that buffing every race, every class and giving better items wouldn't completely kill the challenge vs unupdated monsters.
>>580876051it's so garbage I actually left blizzcon early
>>580875713>says incorrect thing>acts smug while drooling and shitting his pantsYour place is in the dirt, brown.Die.
>>580876019how many resets of bt did they even get LMAO
>>580875834sub rogue
Retail slop for retail crowd.
>>580876239 NEW BREAD MIGRATE>>580876239>>580876239>>580876239>>580876239>>580876239>>580876239
Human PriestDwarf ShamanNight Elf DruidGnome MageOrc WarlockTroll RogueTauren HunterUndead PaladinSky Elf Warrior
>>580875880>>make getting gear upgrades a non-issueYou niggers are so delusional. It already is a non issue. Every single person follows an already optimized dungeon/questing route regardless and insta-vendors things they THINK they don't need because the BiS list told them so.Now you actually get more options and have to think for yourself instead of be stuck with a level 15 green belt until 60? Oh no the horror!
Alexensual gave you classic forever
>>580875695i told them kung fu panda was a skip they didnt listen
>>580875915>>580876069>add pvp toggle>it always leads to no one pvpingYet seething ganker faggots will act like what they want is "popular" when the reality is people just can't be bothered to engage with faggots.
>>580876228It isn't accurate at all. Watch gameplay from yesterday and you'll see that with the exception of one obvious oversight in Arcane Blast, abilities are all tuned to vanilla levels is damage.
>>580875871they never said at any point the armor type restriction would be removed at 60? even brings up the Paladin Dress as an example and saying you need another cloth piece if you want to change it's appearance. watch the video retard
>>580876059Boomkin actually looks strong in forever though.
>>580876148it's been there since the game launched in 2004 you fucking no-game-playing faggot
>>580876501not on pvp realms carebear
>>580876228>private server keks complaining about changes to balance
>>580876120Have you seen the hunter talents?You cant freedom every trap
>>580876685It was okay when turtle did it
>>580876685>pserf complains about changes but only plays tranny+>pserf really really hates blizzard but cannot ever consider playing a non-blizzard ipnot sure which is worse
>>580876863can hunters trap in combat? or do they still have to feign death
>>580875467It's more than just one friend and now i've made even more friends who would want to remain in the same faction but now that all wont matter anymore since I want to go back to Alliance and not keep sticking to Horde.
>>580877159just place it before you enter combat
>>580877516>Gets ambushed by a rogueSo can hunters trap in combat or do they still have to feign death
>>580877620just place it before a rogue ambushes you
>Paladin>Human>Male>Alexander Lightbringer>RPPVP>Judgment transmog
>>580877993>>580877993chad 99 parse
>xaryu and spicaboo gooning on stream to female skelf models
>>580877993Sounds like a guy who would ninja-loot Lawbringer boots in Molten Core
sohow many humans are gonna run around with the name chadhow is this going to hurt the horde's numbers now that not everyone can really think up names like Rijin Beastbreakerare we really going to have orcs named Duncan Byron?
