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Last >>580846084
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the ceo is so cute
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>WoW Forever is just retail 2.0
Pack it up.
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bros why are they doing good shit for forever but not retail...
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>TLT will be the last retail expansion
is this true? what are they going to do after TLT?
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>>580874013
People are glazing the hs old gods but this one looks like pure shit wtf.
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shamans got tanking spec?
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>>580873915
yeah before the expansion after that which will be the great convergence, the renaissance. They will combine all games and incorporate all players
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>>580874215
no there are no sod specs just retail like classes
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Which one of you futa addicts sent this?
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Is there any good Skyporn yet?
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shuffle same shit, add in vanilla
le restart
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>>580874205
I mean he also looks bad in WoW
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>>580874434
me
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>>580874501
just look up belf r34 and tint your screen blue
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paladin once again the hero class of classic+
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>>580874171
probably a few remix or mythic+ seasons before they let the realms rot like era
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>>580874434
A lot of people feel this way because their favorite race is not playable tho.

>>580874603
But yshaarj never had a model on retail?
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>PLEASE GO PLAY OUR DEMO
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PALADINS NO INTERRUPT WTF
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I heard druids are getting a regular rez in WoW Forever, is it true?
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Forever mogged us BIGLY.
We lost.
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wow godever
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>>580874161
Because no1 cares about a gam designed for 2 guilds
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>>580874161
Bevause they can finally sell their product without caring about lore, the story or canon. They can just put whatever into the shop and make 10x the money on the more simple assets.
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>>580874501
Just look up high elves they're the same race.
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wtf are u faggots watching? i am on some housing preview. Why do you always chat about stuff that is not currently showing on blizzcon?
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My therapist: Pink Xal'atath isn't real she can't hurt you

Blizzard:
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Why the fuck are you getting excited for some useless shit about racial and class identity?

What does that have to do with Arator?

What does that have to do with Windrunners?

What the fuck is WRONG with you people?
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>>580874870
Forever deep dive. It just ended, started an hour ago.
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guys I think wow classic has the sigils
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Add Draenei and FemGobs
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>>580874870
link housing
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Should this system be implemented to retail?
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why is Forever getting all this good new shit and we get nothing? what the fuck

this isnt fucking fair. it feels like blizz is abandoning retail

WHAT THE FUCK fuck this shit

blizzard
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>>580874870
The thing that was on the main stage and main stream? Retard?
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>>580875040
blizzcon JUST started half an hour ago, no?
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>>580875104
yes to the rp rules
the rest is irrelevant
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>>580875128
literally none of what they showed for forever is as meaningful or exciting as new windrunner story content in 12.2
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APOLOGIZE TO SEASON OF DISCOVERY RIGHT NOW
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>>580875104
We're already realmless, shit only matters for crafting orders.
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>High Elf exiles somehow form an entire society we never saw before now
why has this happened three times now
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>>580875128
>why does this new game have more news than our mid-expansion game?
gee i dunno
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>>580875164
no it fucking wasnt fagatron, i had the stream open on my computer all morning, went to make soup
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJlVs19-nJY&t=1713s

>Damage numbers are straight out of retail
>Literally nothing can kill you unless you afk

Heres your classic plus straight out of blizzard hairy asshole
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>>580875231
I bet there are some weirdos who actually believe this
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>>580875205
You're right. These rules should be implemented.
>>580875128
Let the classicfags have one win, Anon. Metzen will come back next Blizzcon to unveil The Last Titan.
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>>580875183
There's different streams going on at the same time.
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>>580875278
Because people really really want to play elves anon. pretty simple.
you see they aren't going to bother pulling some OC bullshit out of the ass for a race that no one will actually play, like ogres.
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>>580875408
aw fuck
well maybe mention that ahead of time next time, gaywad
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Please merge/destroy RP realms, it would be so funny you would see troons rope
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>>580875104
>rp realms have “strict naming conventions”
how is that enforced?
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>>580875516
They have a schedule on the official site where shit overlaps. You can click what interests you and get a direct link.
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>>580875348
retard
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The cute lively girl (female) in my guild that only plays retail and was very excited for Blizzcon seems very down and muted today
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>>580875404
You know those rules are ALREADY a thing on retail since forever? Even asmongold got banned for disrupting rp servers once.
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WHY THE F*CK ARE THEY PUTTING ALL THIS EFFORT AND RESOURCES INTO CLASSIC INSTEAD OF MAKING RETAIL GOOD FFS FUCK BLIZZARD
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Rpers are so funny to me. They always claim they like Warcraft but will go out their way to try and roleplay anything but Warcraft.
It's gotten so bad a bunch of them got jobs at Blizzard so they can make Warcraft less Warcraft and more like Moonguard slop's idea of Warcraft
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>>580875104
Obviously yes. One of the biggest issues with Retail for new players is the game auto sticking you on some dead realm.
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>>580875587
All I know is you get 2 names on Forever
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>>580875664
bro ive been collecting mounts, mogs and achievements for 15 years... it all feels pointless now
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>>580875617
ok well how am i the retard? Sounds like a bad design to have your thing have more than 1 stage. What if someone wants to watch 2 at the same time in person? They have to choose. That is why i will never go to a music festival either, what if i like 2 bands that play at the same time. retarded design
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god i wish i were my vulpera
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>>580875746
But being on a dead realm doesnt matter until you try to raid mythic, which new players arent

But sure dissolve the servers
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>>580875664
Once Forever is done soaking up the resources they can be diverted back to Retail again. Don't lose hope, Anon. Just stay subscribed and pump those engagement metrics!
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>>580875664
because retail players turned retail into what it is now and they should be contained just like #nochange classic tards

forever will be for all the players who arent retarded
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>>580875801
Do you even know what a "convention" is?
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>>580875664
The people playing retail are already mazed.

The goal of Forever is to get new players into play retail without having to experience retail first.
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Unpopular opinion: Opening up the transmog system completely, without armor class limitations RUINS the game.
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>>580875664
Sorry, chud. You get 1 more raid and more maze. The 2 guilds will also clear the raid in 2 weeks and you can spend 6 months doing so.
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>>580875890
But have you considered how it'd benefit my RP tho?
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>>580875860
yeah i do, what it is is flawed
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>Diablo 5 guys!
>What it means to celebrate 30 years of Diablo!
>*complete silence*
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Hearthstone wins again. This is peak.
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>>580875664
it's over nigger. all your cash shop mounts and mogs are worthless. get on the forever train or die
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>>580875890
I mean yeah
But it's the end of the game so might aswell, who fucking care
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>>580875890
Not a fan of it either but pandora's box has been opened when they added the first cosmetic set in WoD
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>>580875972
You being retarded and having the wrong stream open isn't a flaw with the system retardbro.
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>>580875865
Well they will play retail-
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>>580875976
>30 years of Diablo
>but you gotta wait 3 more years to play Diablo 5
>33 years of Diablo hype!
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>>580875853
>the braindead easy mode game is for the players who arent retarded
Uhh yeah sure
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Shit game
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can I mog priest gear as a hunter?
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Some helpful links for retail friends
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/suicide/
https://sprc.org/
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>>580876073
i am saying what if you are there in person? You are standing in the asuditorium for one stage and watching the other on your fucking phone? No of course you are not doing that. I am passed the whole stream mix up on my end i am now critiquing the entire design of multistage conventions and festivals. Move on, catch up with my argument
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>>580876203
yes
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>>580875128
>all this good new shit
Name one good shit in WoWf.
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>>580876203
>>580876238
we don't know if you can mog tiers but you can mog off pieces with the same appearance
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>>580874868
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After seeing how much effort they're putting into Forever, no one is going to buy TLT unless it's a Legion-level expansion.
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>>580876224
>nhs
Bonigstan moment
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>>580876203
we dont know if class restrictions still apply to tier sets
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>>580875995
I like their design but doesn't change the fact that HS is a dogshit game.
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>>580876224
god i wish all europ*ans would all rope themselves
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>>580875104
retail already works like this they just lack last names so realms are basically the equivalent of that
if you pay attention (you dont) and click on people (you dont) you can see many different people from different realms even in open world
they just aggressively congregate people in modern zones and purposefully leave them empty everywhere else to reduce server stress
they are greedy like that but the entire selling point of forever and classic is to see other cucks walking around
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UHHH GUYS?!
RETAIL 2.0 SCREENSHOT JUST LEAKED
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>>580875664
I'm sure Blizzard will add another FOMO piece of cheese to keep us happy.
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>>580876325
No one's gonna be buying Last Titan anyway. 2/3 of this trilogy has been dogshit and Metzen can't even be arsed to show his face to instil some wait for the payoff bs
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Why do people keep saying WoW Forever is horizontal? This is clearly not horizontal, I don't think mazed WoW players can even comprehend what horizontal means
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>>580875995
Wasn't expecting yogg to be a weird frog to be honest. Also reminds me that both Nzoth and Yshaarj's official design in WoW came from Hearthstone in the first place.
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>>580876237
If you are there in person you pick the things you want to see and go watch them. If everybody could watch everything you would hit capacity instantly and most attendees wouldn't be able to watch at all.
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Retail 2.0 looking good
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>>580876517
What do you think horizontal is? Provide a clear definition, other than "not this."
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>>580875205
>>580875404
>You throw onto the rules, suddenly get banned for being 'OOC' for interacting with people OOC.
>Or get banned for 'disrupting RP' by playing the game and not interacting with every single person IC.
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>>580876594
why is that tauren hot
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>>580876517
Right now they are coping with horizontal shit
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>>580875890
It makes sense because retail will go into maintenance mode after the next expansion.
So the people who will stay get to have a little bit of fun with housing and their transmog collections before end of service in ~2029.
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>>580876517
Because it was the hot retard buzzword before the announcement and then blizzard learned into it
Yeah of course it's not horizontal but they need to sell preorders
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>>580876606
First of all, there wouldn't be a huge part of the systems panel that explains how powerful and epic all the new items are.
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>>580875664
because retail is bloated by years of expansions and systems.

forever is essentially a fresh start for blizzard. Classic won
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>uhh forever is for normalfags, not you mazedtards
>releasing the same month as gta 6
LOL
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>>580876510
They're giving all this cool shit to Classic while we've been stuck with the same buggy slop for the past 2 and half expansions lol
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>>580876594
WoW!
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>>580876791
oh god i didnt even think about gta 6
all of wow will be a ghost town, classic and retail
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>>580876791
>can play without having to fight over mobs
#blessed
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>>580876791
>>580876906
>she doesn't know
wow monogamers ain't playing GTA 6, sis
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Classic+ replacing retoilet
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>>580876791
Funny you think pc players give two shits about GTA, that shit is console fag coded
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>>580876791
Why would wowbucks care about GTA6?
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>>580877018
usually that is the case, yes, however, gta 6 will be a paradigm shift. Senior citizens will even be playing this one. I do believe the CIA also has their hands in this release, something nefarious is going to be happening with its release.
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>>580876791
>no pc release
i sleepin
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>>580876761
Horizontal doesn't mean no powerful gear. It just means that any progression is not more powerful than existing options. So if there are powerful and epic new items, in future content, there can also be powerful and epic new items, just as long as they are not objectively superior to the previous powerful and epic items, making them redundant in the process.
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>>580877139
i give it 2 or 3 months tbdesu
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>>580876832
>Hey, has anyone seen my disneyfication pills?
>Suspiciously Disney-shaped Tauren:
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>>580876791
>they are gonna post this on every site
kek you are an autist
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I tire of these roleplayer dogs wasting recourses on needless shit.
First it was more Elves, we want more Elves. I want to be able to represent myself as my preferred fucking Elf. Then it became making the plot revolve solely around their favourite races to push their own headcanons and fanfic as official canon. Then getting rid of male and female, so they can justify rping feminine looking men. Then came trading post, just a excuse to get a bunch of mogs in that rpers solely want. Then came housing. A thing only for rpers which recourses could've been used for something better. Now it's last names, cross region servers so they can rp with their yankie-doodle friends. Then came transmog, it's not fair I can't rock all the sexy Warlock sets on my Mage, boohoo.
WoW's been shit since Legion when the rpers started getting hired and it's gotten progressively even worse the more say they've had under Holly Longdale. Where's the content. Where's the interest. You're now working on an 8 week patch cycle and half the time you spend developing said patch is actually spent on making new ways to get Void Elf cosmetics for your rp. And now we've got an official D&D rp guide book.
Kill everyone from Moonguard, kill everyone from Argent Dawn. No one plays Wrymrest Accord. Fuck blizz. Fuck rpers. Fuck Moonguardcraft.
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>>580877018
The point is that new players arent touching this dogshit
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>>580875587
RP realms on live supposedly also have "strict naming conventions". How is it enforced? it isn't
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Mage Tower skins will be coming back at the end of Midnight.
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>a lot of the messaging around Forever has been about exploring Azeroth, never going to Outland or exploring other worlds
>worlds plural
>meanwhile, they keep setting up TLT as closing one chapter of WoW history and setting up for another
>looking at what's been going on in retail, we have K'aresh, the new faction of ethereals, and the Nashabor story hints
It seems pretty clear to me that the paradigm is going to be that Forever is the "Azeroth" game and retail becomes the "exploring different worlds in the universe" game. Instead of perpetually adding increasingly-improbable four-zone islands all over the oceans, we'll just start going to other worlds.
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>>580877325
Elves are not for rp tho elves are for EVERYONE they are the normalfag race especially because the humans look like monsters
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>>580876594
>>580876832
>guy makes a meme of a hot sexy furry-designed tauren in 2019
>4 years later, official Warcraft content
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>people unironically complaining about them giving forever the most popular race when we have FOUR FUCKING FLAVORS OF MIDGETS
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what the fuck wow forever actually sounds amazing..
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>>580877612
dwarf
dark iron dwarf
earthen
gnome
mechagnome

try 6
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>>580877526
>we'll just start
>start
my dude what do you think outland, draenor and shadowlands are? we are going to other worlds since the very first expansion
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>>580877325
you forgot the worst offender. Warlock for all so they could justify their edgy Draenei Warlock and Night Elf characters
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>>580876325
>>580876510
Why are you here, there is a different general for you "people". You don't have to come into the retail one and cry your heart out like a sissy.
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>>580877719
Sorry, I slipped up my word sequencing. I meant
>we'll start just
as in
>we'll start only
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Where the fuck is Chris Metzen?
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>>580877242
But they still have rising item levels, so it's clearly vertical progression. They just permanently cap the max level, which does not matter in this case.
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>>580877858
old people see that dwarf and his bear and instantly start sobbing every single time
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>>580877858
BRVTAL MOGGING
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>>580877904
Working on Forever, more WC3 expansions, and the Warcraft TV show
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>>580876594
>Cry about retail being a disney game
>Nu wow for "hardcore oldschool gamers" literally looks like a disney game
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>>580875995
shame we’ll never get a proper Black Empire expac
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>>580877858
WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO ONE CARES ABOUT DRAGONFLIGHT SEASON 17?!?!?!
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>>580877858
>retail lost to REFORGED
That should say something
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>>580878068
Then he should be out here, he is far and away the best hype man they have. Ever time I see fucking Ion again I groan
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>>580877985
soulless retoilets will never understand
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>>580877905
It's only vertical progression if each new raid always has a higher item level than the last raid.
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just got to the redhead portuguese girl, she is so cute
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>>580877858
>trailers for reddit+ cant even break 2 mil
Its so grim and over
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When is the next WoW panel?
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>>580876594
POOR UNFORTUNATE SOULS
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Horizontal progression is a meme buzzword.
It comes from single player games where you can give the player a new power or ability that makes them able to do more things without necessarily making the game easier. It's about opening more options.
This makes no sense in an MMO where you have distinct classes that have to have different abilities. Actual Horizontal Progression in an MMO leads to Homogenization as everybody slowly unlocks the ability to do everything.
The end result of what MMO players mean when they ask for "Horizontal progression" is a massive graveyard of content that nobody will run because it doesn't have their BiS. New content that will release with shit loot that you'll maybe do once and then never again. Level 30 dungeons that everybody speedruns past anyways. It's the same end result but even more demoralizing for people who come into the game late. There's no chance they will ever see the inside of that dead instance.
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>>580877526
Forever is moreso about expanding the existing game world instead of moving to completely new locations
I’m willing to bet after TLT we go to Avaloren, not a new world/dimension
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>>580877858
What do you want to watch for Retail? There was literally nothing. The teaser wasn't even explicit. We learned nothing, we expect nothing.

A sad blizzcon for WoW
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>>580877858
>Forever is fresh start retail
Could unironically be the start of WoW 2 if it's good.
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>>580877985
>>580878183
They feel nothing
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They should stop having Blizzcons if they've got nothing big to show off for retail wow.
Just go back to the old specific showcases system
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>>580877904
I believe he said that he doesn't want to be on stage ever again since he hates public appearance.
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world of warcraft forever looks like absolute shit
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Will there be deep dive for retail? patch 12.2?
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>>580877858
>ion: "yeah we should be flushing the retoilet..."
>*flushing sounds*
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>>580878573
That was yesterday
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>>580878573
They did one yesterday
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>>580877904
I don't think they want him to work on WoW: disney+
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>>580878573
LOL
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>>580878551
Really? It always looked like he was having a blast on stage. Thats a shame
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>>580878382
Horizontal progression comes from OSRS where it's incredibly slow and takes thousands and thousands of hours to unlock everything and by the time you've unlocked everything they've added another 500 hours of content, and if you're batshit addicted enough to still unlock everything then you're probably insane to make another alt and do it again
WoW doesn't have this because it's probably going to take like 100 hours or less to reach 60 in Forever
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>>580878551
Then do a pre-recorded message. It's that simple. The fact he couldn't even be arsed to clarify Holly's statement about he wishes he didn't call it Warcraft is as telling as can be.
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>>580878382
they already explained this retard

any new content gear and sets will have bonuses related to that content to make it easier, so you will be swapping your sets depending on what content you are trying to do
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Offical BlizzCon ranking
WoW: Retail 2.0 Forever >>>>>> WC3 Reforged > retoilet the last troon

That's it, thank you
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>>580878573
retoilet?
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>warcraft tv show trailer releases
>characters namedrop locations that are only in forever
how will we cope?
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when is the WoW panel today?
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>>580878382
Getting a mew ability is literally vertical progression, going from A to A&B is purely a gain
Its only horizontal if you swap from A to B and A=B, which puts a greater onus on balance
Horizontal games are rare because theres no actual progression, just fluff, and only appeal to women. See GW2
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>>580878724
He talked about it some after he first retired in 2016, he said public speaking was incredibly stressful to him and combined with the stress of Titan's development and the Warcraft movie in the early 2010s it was exacerbating back pain he had, apparently some days he'd come home from work and just scream from the pain and scare his daughters which is when he realized he needed to retire
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>>580878818
start yelling and hitting myself in the head until my caretaker gives me a kit kat to calm down
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>>580878725
Osrs is a vertical progression game, and a single player game
Its closer to pokemon where you level up your whole team instead of just 1 character, but its still vertical
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>>580878447
>fresh start
>immediately take a messy blue shit and don't flush
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>>580878183
This must be sarcasm, because forever is clearly the most soulless capitalist corposlop ever made.
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world of gay "different" craft
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>>580878382
I played GW2 10 years after it came out and did every piece of content in the game easily, with hundreds of people running each major event.
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Bros might have to buy the elf
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>>580879030
It's remarkable how much of a downer those fucking blue elves have put on Forever for me.
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>just wait 1 more year for actual content in retail teehee
Disappointing.
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>>580877268
>>580878086
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>>580879062
This. Real straight men lust after bisexual blue elves with colorful hair instead of straight military women!
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>>580878382
Can't wait to see how Blizzard somehow fucks it up
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>>580878724
>anon learns anxiety riddled people are REALLY good at hiding their anxiety
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>>580879069
Cool
Millions of people run m+, its pretty obvious nobody gives a shit about horizontal garbage
And gw2 raiding is incredibly dead, players wont touch anything that takes actual effort just mindless world zero slop
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>>580879174
UMMM DID YOU NOT SEE THE GIANT ROBOT?
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>Comes in
>Cuts up Danusers planned expansion into a trilogy
>Locks the entire writing team into making this shitty trilogy nobody wants out of a plot that would've been acceptable it was a 1 pump and dump expansion
>Rounds up a bunch of writers and tells them fine they can actually write what they want for Classic+ instead
>Doesn't bother showing his face again while Classic+ starts forcing some shit like Sky Elves which is the type of dumb shit retail writers wanna write about
>Retail story at a all time low because these writers have zero interest in following through with it and keep half-arsing it every step of the wow.

It really is his fault at the end of the day. We should've stuck with Danuser.
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>>580879249
I got the legendary armor from raids it's not dead and that was before they revamped the rewards
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>>580879174
Ya kinda retarded. It's fucking blizzcon.
>woops sorry can't say or show anything cause it'll spoil 12.2!!!!!
like wtf
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what’s funny is they’re pushing this “forever is about the journey not the destination” while also having a horizontal progression endgame
after a few expansions (or their equivalent) there will be a shitload of endgame content and everyone will be rushing through the leveling to reach it
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>>580879154
It's literally just a belf.
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>>580878909
And then he immediately went to try to grift in the dnd market, got btfo, crawled back to wow and then his gay story got shat on again so now hes hiding his shame
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Horizontalchads won
Verticalsissies seething
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>>580879154
Literally blood elf
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I am an elf lover so I am the target audience
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>>580877985
intense nostalgia so deeply rooted in us that it evokes extreme emotion
t. teared up
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.>WoRlD Of WaRcaFT iS sO diSNEY now
>Blizzard releases pic related
>Not a fucking peep of complaining

I think I genuinely am starting to hate this community.
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>>580879332
Danuser and his lore were awful for the game but at least he had somewhat of a vision and plan for his cosmic bullshit.

Worldsoul has been so meandering and unfocused. The only "good" thing that felt like Warcraft has been Undermine and even they used it to make Goblins not Goblins anymore.
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>>580879332
People warned about him from the beginning.
He was always just a poser, everything people say he achieved was made by other people.
He is basically the Steve Jobs of WoW.
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>>580879174
Champion! I've been looking everywhere for (You).

Oh, the head in the crystal ball? I'm trying something new. :)
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>>580878573
Why the fuck do you even care?

Seriously. Who ITT is really seeing Forever and going "B-but what about the new le mazeroni patchnotes?!"? Are you even real?
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>>580879154
skybitches underwear looks sluttier somehow
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>>580879240
I have a lot of anxiety about public speaking and it did not make me look like a good public speaker, it made me look like an anxious retard.
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>>580878839
please respond
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>copying horizontal progression from GW2 when they are moving to GW3
Blizzard, late for the party as usual
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>>580879565
>Not a fucking peep of complaining
Shitposter or dumbest human being alive, call it
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You guys holding up okay? Need a shoulder massage? Some warm milk? Tendies? Seems like you guys are really suffering.
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how much time until the next wow panel?
in minutes, please
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that’s it I’m going back to Wizard101
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>>580879715
Its ok anon you can enjoy the shitposting for a few more months.
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>>580879565
>Not a fucking peep of complaining
Where the fuck have you been? Its nothing BUT complaining about blue elves
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>>580879565
classic player were always pro lgbt! Only retail chuds have a problem with the nu-elfs.
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>>580879764
I stopped enjoying /v/ tourists during Shadowlands
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>>580879575
Why don't we have kino like that in the game anymore? I don't think there was anything memorable this expansion and I've paid attention to all of it.
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>>580878856
Horizontal progression is a game design term from the 90s retard. That's the literal definition of it. Getting the ability to do something new without making your character better at doing any particular thing. If you get the ability to smash open doors and that unlocks new paths through the game, that's horizontal. This isn't up for debate, it is an objective term with a set definition.
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https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/forever-transmog-items-dropped-in-dungeons-unlock-appearance-for-whole-group-382865

RETOILET WHEN?
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>>580879665
GW3 is hardly an mmo. Gacha game open world with grouping optional.
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>>580879878
ermm did you forget heckin jimothy?
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>>580879565
>>580879809
True!
This is our game
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>>580879565
premium b8 right here
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>>580879840
No king rules forever. Pretty fucking crazy to be dethroned by a better version of yourself, though. My condolences.
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>>580875628
He was unbanned in like 5 minutes and openly mocked the server for trying to police him out of it.
WALL JUST GOT 5 FEET HIGHER BABY
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>>580879809
Yeah I do have a problem actually
>Void Elves have existed for over 10 years now
>They only ever got customization additions once and it was just Blood Elf skin colors
>To date they're the only race to not get any new customizations
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>>580879920
This is too much of a good thing for retail.
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>>580879665
They're doing a Helldivers clone in 20 fucking 30 with Starcraft. Blizzard is so bad at this it's insane.
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>>580879920
>multiboxer takes 20 people into Siege of Orgrimmar and all the other old raids with legacy loot and something super rare at the end
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>>580880024
to be fair helldivers was an enormous success and everybody fell for the extraction shooter meme instead so that genre's still untapped
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Can somebody post the image with the dev community image with two trans freaks, one male and one female
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>>580879920
retail doesnt really need this
you can go back to any low level dungeon and slaughter it
modern dungeon set transmogs are given out through wq rewards

>>580880097
it doesnt apply in raids you retard
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>Forever will use the restricted retail addon api
lol its over for weakaura fags
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>>580880195
anon you can use weakauras on retail but the wa devs quit after the announcement
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post red draenei
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>>580880008
When did Kul'Tirans and DI Dwarfs get new customizations?
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It's fucking obvious that they are selling blue elfs, (that are just blood elf reskin) because there are no BE reskins in forever for now. They also clearly didn't want the controversy of selling BE or any already existing races. I expect them to add some of retail shit for free with time and after they milked people of their reskin. They will even say something like "We listened that you wanted BE's back, so here you go!"
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>>580879985
You're not funny.
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>>580879920
Only applies to low level poop gear so warriors aren't need rolling everything for transmog.
It's not needed in retail because the roll system already has restrictions in place to prevent this.
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>>580879574
I feel like Gary Gyax is potentially a better comparison, especially given the weird cult of personality.
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>>580879567
part of the problem is you cant fault the writers for how meandering and disjointed the story is. you can tell entire patches get cut and reused later. management is to blame here. its extremely difficult to write a connected story when entire plotlines will get axed because programmers and 3d modelers didnt finish their jobs on time
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>>580880317
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>>580879161
>>580879154
>>580879030
Why are yoga on so spastic it’s literally just to give both horde and alliance a sexy elf toon
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>>580880408
They're selling them because chinks will buy them by the literal millions. It was obviously a mandate from Microsoft and they were salient enough to know that selling Blood Elves would have resulted in an untenable shitstorm.
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>>580879985
>Pretty fucking crazy to be dethroned by a better version of yourself, though.
We call that raising a proper son, Anon.
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So how many of you are quitting this shit entirely to join Forever the moment it drops?
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lol
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>>580879912
New ability is strictly better
Thats vertical
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>>580880541
>It was obviously a mandate from Microsoft
Nah you people are retarded like blaming bobby kotick for everything lmao the blizzard devs are fucking rats.
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>>580880534
No it's not. It's to fleece $30 out of autistic classic players. They couldn't sell blood or high elves without a huge backlash, but blue elves? EZ.
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>>580880195
Nobody cares about weakauras, we use meekauras now.
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You're not going to intentionally play off-meta in m+ just so you can get a participation trophy title, right /wowg/?
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>>580880615
retard
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>>580879154
The fuck is wrong with his eyes?
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>have 3 leveling boosts to use
>like leveling too much to use them
wish we could convert these into wow tokens or something
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why do i feel like the updates to this will be slow, underwhelming and most likely paywalled
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>>580880408
you know how retail always adds new race/class combos in the dogshit filler .5 and .7 patches? they will do the same for classic+
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>>580880728
The most off-meta pick will still have a big amount of players because all brainlets will pick it to get boosted on.
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I choose to believe that they just keep adding elves but only if they have some caveat that doesn't explicitly make them "high elves" just to fuck with those eternal autists for laughs
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>>580880728
I already main Augvoker so no
I’ll take my participation trophy though
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>>580880834
You can see the forever roadmap and it's pretty small, forever is meant to be played in between retail seasons.
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>>580880746
Nothing? What the fuck are wrong with yours?
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>>580880593
The complete span of WoW: Forever audience in one picture.
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>>580880728
I play my main regardless of the meta anyway.
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>>580880958
You've had a rough life, buddy. Take it easy on the weekends.
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they need to make getting 60 a massive grind so the main priority isn't just blasting to 60 to raid log
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>Get the race change urge only after the sale ends
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>>580880834
>finish available content
>wait 3 months
>new level 40-43 dungeon gets added
>nothing for another 3 months
I’m so excited
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>>580880593
>retail lead world artist
>working on Forever too
Oh boy
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>>580881150
This panel is just talking about designing Maisara Caverns though
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>>580880576
Damn. Based and profound. See you in Forever, bro.
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>>580881061
>furry
>shota
>gay
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Why is no one talking about demo lock? Liquid won the mdi yesterday because they played lock to the point they killed zuljan like 1 minute ahead echo.
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retail is about to become District 9 for furtrannies
please migrate to /wowfg/ starting november 4th
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>"best of both worlds"
i see the vision
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>>580881440
>/wowfg/
WoW Furry General.............
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>>580881150
>if only you knew how bad things really are.
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Thread so dead and pathetic now the freak is desperate for attention so he's spamming porn.
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>>580881440
>all the anime shitposters already moved to wowf
kek enjoy lil gup

>>580881529
in what universe is this trash the best of both worlds? this shit is nothing like classic, every class is raping everything with retail skills and there is no good end game like on retail.
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>>580881061
dont appreciate this
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>>580881150
TOLD YOU GUYS IT'S END OF SERVICE FOR RETAILKEKS
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>>580879920
This does solve the issue of someone needing your upgrade for their mog, but it feels so soulless when you collection isn't a personal endeavor.
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yall niggas play too much

MODS
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>>580869382

why you posting my character lol
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Will Forever have the WoW token?
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>>580881150
>artsy chick has green hair and is some generic lib

Wow you don’t say
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>>580881636
>this shit is nothing like classic, every class is raping everything with retail skills and there is no good end game like on retail.
thats the point
this is best of both worlds
but its ion world
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ok now i am starting to get excited for wow froever for some reason... i want to play hardcore
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>>580881636
>every class is raping everything with retail skills
Obviously you did not watch gameplay streams. Outside of one overturned ability everything was doing perfectly normal damage for its level. Just accept the fact that retail lost. Forever is forever.
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>>580881367
Shut the fuck up
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>>580880735
A+B is better than A you retarded nigger
More abilities is better, thats straight vertical progression
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>>580881136
Check out this guy getting Loremaster in 3 months
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>>580881885
We get it, you're brown.
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>>580881827
>Obviously you did not watch gameplay streams
lmao

>Outside of one overturned ability everything was doing perfectly normal damage for its level.
clown world
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>>580881716
I really want that faggot to suicide
But I will not snitch, or I will be an even lower faggot
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nobody will care but I got my first character to max level :)
should I just be rushing vault stuff?
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>>580881656
I guess it's time to accept the bitter truth...
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If retail sister had bought more things in the ingame shop maybe Blizzard wouldn't have to abandon it for more financially loose players? Ever thought about that?
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every single furfag needs to be culled
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>>580882136
>/
either you rush the vault or you just DN
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Maybe it was because of you who didn't buy that 90$ Brutosaur a while ago

IT WAS ALL YOUR FAULT
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>>580882136
If you have friends get a couple of +10 carries for vault yeah.
Otherwise do 3x Nightmare prey first, they're easy as sin. No need to feel rushed to fill vault since you only need 3 slots to get a reroll token which you can use to get myth track later.
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>>580881717
Sailor moon character and guild. Based
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>>580881656
>I killed retail
> by becoming retail
monkeys paw
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>>580882017
is loremaster that impressive in classic? youre like 75% of the way there by the time you hit 60
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we didnt listen
we shoulve have boughted the pig
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>You can encounter all the players who share the same preference (for example the same preferred language)
Will this work or will BR all just select English because that's where the carries are?
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Did they have any more to say about that new roguelite ARPG mode coming in 12.1.7?
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>>580882078
You lost. Buy the sex elves and play Forever with everyone else.
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>playing pay'dorei
NGMI
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>>580882795
I accept your concession goy.
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So if TLT is coming end of summer 2027, does this mean we be in 12.2 for 6+ months?!
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>>580882687
Most annoying ones will 100% select English and then complain that no one can understand them.
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>>580882697
12.1.7
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>>580882942
most season are 5-6 months long plus they are releasing remix afteer 12.2.7

>>580883013
they can use addons to convert text even when they pick EN
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>>580882942
They have no reason to rush Retail anymore, Forever is carrying the IP as of November.
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>>580882871
You lost the moment you felt the need to lie when you obviously didn't even watch gameplay.
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>>580882795
I'll play an actual gacha game before I get scammed into playing Blizzards new capital-extractor 3000.
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>>580883097
Unironically they need to slow the fuck down. It's becoming apparent that under the 8 week cycle all they can do is push out slop
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>ass pull OC blue elves are more acceptable then J'lor
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>>580883097
They actually have to rush because forever is going to be dead by the spring of 2027
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>>580883097
its not even out yet
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>>580882942
Yes. Your content is Wrath Remix. Please clap.
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>>580883419
wow they are adding forever to retail as well?!
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>>580882942
6 months is pretty bog standard for a major patch length. Lines right up with the 7-8 week patch cycle.
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I've been thonking.
Between Classic (vanilla), Forever and Retail (muh worldsouls) there won't be any other place than Retail for people to play TBC and Wotlk content.
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>>580879581
I care. I exist.

WoW forever is made for twitter and twitch and tiktok. WoW forever is made so that kids can finally enter the wonderful world of Azeroth.

I don't give a fuck about WoWf.
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>>580883126
>he said unironically in a retail WoW thread
How much does that new mount cost, friend?
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paladin
>paladin
paladin
>paladin
paladin
>paladin
paladin
>paladin
forever
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>>580883647
Well yeah you need classic to play old zones but all the tbc and towlk shit is right there except 1 scenario.
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lol
lmao even
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>>580882942
TLT isn't end of summer, it's WINTER 2027. So it will be 8-10 months of 12.2+remix.
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>>580883647
WotLK Classic will be getting another re-release I'm pretty sure.
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>>580883736
instead of more race/class combos, we got rougelike diablo ripoff. it's over
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>>580874013
love wowg anons!!!
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>>580883736
>This is why Thrall has a spotlight on Blizzcon
It's fucking nothing
Blizzard baited players once again
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>>580883876
>I'm pretty sure.
Why? Tbc is pretty dead right now and they are going to release wowf soon
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this is how i feel
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>>580883843
Nah, it's Q3.
>>580884005
Pic related.
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>>580884037
Let Rhykker play PoE2 and stop asking him for Diablo 5
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>>580884097
>announce sc in 2030
>announce d5 in 2029
>no mention of the meme arthas game
Fake tranny shit bro
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>>580883419
I still don't get why wraith. Nobody is going to stay subbed for some 20 year old 480p armor transmogs.
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>>580884005
vanilla -> wrath is getting infinite loop release every 4 to 5 years being the classic trilogy
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>>580884210
People are going to stay subbed when they see all the fomo mounts added and a fucking frostmourne/helm of domination
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Talebound seems fun idk why you guys are hatin on it
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>>580884097
>(TBD 14.0) (TBD 15.0)
But I was told they are abandoning retail after TLT?
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>>580884163
>meme arthas game
>ARPG
internal name for D5 retard
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Uh oh retailjeet meltie... how does it feel knowing that they have discontinued retail?
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>>580883176
The issue isnt the speed its that they waste dev time on worthless content
We are in the 1st month of a 6th month patch, I already have no reason to go to the coiled isle, I already have no upgrades from m+ or delves, either I push m+ rating (which is literally only possible for top 1% so even though I can get that high 99% of players cannot break the cutoff) and raidlog
Then you have>>580883736
Thrall lorewalking is worthless
Turbulent timeways is just mmANOTHER round of level up boosts which does nothing for a main character
Holiday updates will be worthless
Roguelite mode isnt even part of retail its a standalone meme mode

Gearing cannot be done in 2 weeks, all game modes need to remain useful for at least 3 months
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i need to make it to 3400 before classic+ comes out
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>>580884371
No one said that. The just know it's going to be put on life support and be made only for whales while they focus on the project they actually care about.
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>>580884097
This says confidential at the top, I will report you and then the FBI will arrest you.
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>decide to try m+ for the first time
>ilvl287
>try to join some +2s
>declined every time
am i retarded? am i just way undergeared?
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>>580884501
The goalpost is moving as we speak.
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>>580884485
You have two fucking months
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>>580884575
beta is on thursday
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>>580884501
>No one said that.
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>>580884539
People want to be carried.
Especially if you're applying as DPS.
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>>580884210
Because we go to Northrend in TLT. They want people to experience it before the rework.
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>>580884210
They don't want you to play the remix, they want you to play Forever and to buy the $30 elf packs
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>>580884407
The constant funnel of catch-up gear is ruining the game.
You have easy to get catch-up gear on the main path .0 , then even more on a .5 that makes the easy content of .0 useless, then again the same thing with the .7 patch, that doubly invalidates previous content.
All wasted dev time on dumb systems, when they could just make a main one of the patch and incrimentally update it as the patch goes.
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>>580884539
At this point in the season if you were had been playing, solely via delves and boxes/prey, you could ding 90 and be 300 within a single day so nobody is going to want you nor does anyone even have a reason to do a 2. The only people who have 2s are alts who want to be carried to have 10s to farm.
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>>580884210
it’s to force players to run around Northrend so they can tell what’s changed in TLT
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Can you take your AI jeets back?
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>>580884210
i did wrath for the first time earlier this month and it holds up. the gear rewards look like shit but they always have upscaled versions
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>>580884856
They will leave around december when wowf slows down
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The one thing I like most about Forever is that it’s distracting all the hyperchuds that would be bellyaching about more troll paladins
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>>580884802
>At this point in the season
nigger, season is three weeks old
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Guys, please talk me out of buying this bundle. I just want the transmog. I don't give a fuck about Forever.
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>>580884163
that image is definitely fake but they did announce like 3 WarCraft things, no reason to keep piling things on
they announced the StarCraft shooter because it already leaked
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>>580884963
Doesn't matter that's the answer. You can be 300+ ilvl in a day on alt, nobody is going to invite your ass unless you're a tank/healer.
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>>580884935
undead paladin reroll soon

>>580885004
the bear is really cool but all the other rewards are trash
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>>580885004
i bought it. it looks nice
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>>580885004
None of it looks good except for the dwarf set, and you need to be a dwarf to have it look good on you.
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Any news on Wrath?
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>>580884801
We arent even at catchup right now though
The initial gearing is just too fast. M+ is uncapped, you get way too many delve keys a week, they hand everyone a free tier drop immediately plus evefy 2 weeks which makes even tier tokens in raid worthless by week 3
At the same time most of the content invalidated isnt good to begin with, but its still dev time wasted. 12.2 zone looks cool, too bad ill have 0 fucking reason to be there besides running to the raid
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>>580885142
Raped and murdered by Forever.
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>>580885142
remix in summer next year
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>>580884802
retard
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Where is our capital is going to be in TLT? Dalaran is destroying and not coming back as far as I know
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>>580885004
>It's classic bros!
>The bear mount has more pixels than an entire classic area
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>>580885004
i was a good goy and brought the physical edition
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>>580885004
15 years from now you're gonna be playing Forever and kicks yourself for not getting the pets when you could
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>>580885331
The draenei city velen mentioned during the heritage quest, all the .7 stay and while and listen confirmed the draenei will play a huge part on the next expansion
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>>580885384
Improved graphics was literally asked for
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>>580885331
Ulduar or Wrymrest probably.
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I told you about Classic+

You didn't believe me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC8Cy9FDzLM
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>>580885004
im thinking of buying it because it comes with the new wc3 campaign too
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>>580885331
Ebon Blade turning ICC into a stronghold could be cool.
Imagine a reverse of Wrath where we start in Icecrown and Fjord/Peaks/Coldara are the endgame areas.
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>>580885102
>>580885103
>>580885106
>>580885384
>>580885398
>>580885403
>>580885565
I bought it. I hope Blizzard reworks ground mounts someday and I can use the bear regularly.
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>>580885331
Space. During the last raid of midnight the planet will literally blow up (still accesible through chromie) and we have to hurry and repair the exodar. It will become the orbital hub from where we will then start the following expansions about terraforming the moon so people can live on it.
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>>580885436
>we will build a new city so the Eredar can once again be united and safe
>immediately fly it to the center of an active warzone
starting to agree with Hatuun that Velen doesn’t know what he’s doing
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>>580885889
hatuun is part of the new draneie society
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>>580885771
how do i buy the physical version with the statue? cant find on shop.
i want that statue
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>>580885331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om6oOLhKOtY#t=690s
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>>580885964
Blizzard Gear Store

Brace yourself for extortionate shipping costs.
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TURTLE ASCENSION DIED FOR THIS
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>>580886027
luckily i live in basedifornia, right by their HQ, cant possibly be that hard to ship it a few dozen miles.
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Forver won. It f*cking won.
Retail is on the chopping block after TLT
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>>580885771
Good goy.
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>>580886131
They don't ship stuff from their HQ. They ship stuff from their warehouse in China.
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>>580886043
any call dem BLUEd elves yet?
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post good
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> 32 hours non stop of our nigga Towelliee

Comfy weekend
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I look cool, right?
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>>580886337
How long until furries are added to Forever?
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>>580886443
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>>580886443
>nu-earthern
no
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>>580886464
They're already in the game. Tauren + druids. Just like old times.
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>>580886043
Turtle WoW, Ascension, Epoch...

They all died for... This.
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Which Loa will your Darkspear paladin follow?
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>>580886043
I'm already going to play Forever, anon. You don't need to make it sound even more based.
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If I could get Prot Warrior's retail gameplay in Forever, I'd switch in a heartbeat.
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>>580886706
maybe you will? they are adding retail shit to forever
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>Undead Paladin
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These make our racials look shoddy by comparison.
We either need our own revamp or for combat racials to be simply deleted out of the game.
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>>580886875
It's basically TBC Prot. Not at all retail. No spec will be that bloated.
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>>580886656
>horde
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Ah, classic.

Just like how it used to be.
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>>580886996
forsaken and undead are completely different things
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>>580887024
our racials need to be washed down as to not impede the competitive integrity of m+ and WFR
classic doesnt have that issue
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>>580887181
>our racials need to be washed down
most of those racials are the same lmao
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzTlYmYQLzk

RETOILET WHEN?
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>>580887132
i have ptsd from this
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>>580884501
Holy fucking cope.
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>>580884485
Is 3400 the keystone myth achievement?
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It's going to be real funny when Forever flops and everyone that continues to play it tries to cope about how it's still better than retail
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>>580887024
>Only 10% casting speed for troll still
Too busted even for forever
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>>580887345
yes, and the mount token
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do i play human paladin or human warrior on forever
tough choice
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>>580886043
>bisexual alphabet elves
based
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>>580887370
why are you talking about forever in the retail thread lil bro?
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>>580887057
Strategist alone makes all the difference in the world. I couldn't live without the fluidity it adds to the gameplay.
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>>580885517
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>Undead Paladin could be cool, especially with transmog
>Alliance side questing in vanilla is a billion times more kino than Horde
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>>580887024
a lot of these are retail racials though lol
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If you are a WoW purist, Turtle WoW is objectively the BEST version of World of Warcraft to have ever existed, it is the truest experience of WoW Classic+

If you disagree with this, then you're just a Blizzard cockblower and/or simply retarded.

This isn't even ragebait or troll.
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>>580887714
Blood elf with Nightborne marks, cool.
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>>580886464
Wasn't the new disney furry Tauren face from Forever? Don't tell me that is coming to retail...
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>>580886337
well cheers for posting my chars, nice to see them here
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>the large titan shown in northrend during TLT cinematic finishes the job sargeras started and plunges the sword deeper into azeroth
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>>580887024
>gnomes have replaced UD as the dedicated ganking race
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>>580887847
Go back to bed, Shenna. You're supposed to be working on your own MMO. Stop having nightmares about WoW Forever.
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>>580887930
azeroth is going to be free after 12.2
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>>580887024
Why are the horde racials like 50% better
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dicks out for my nigga azeroth
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>>580887796
>Alliance side questing in vanilla is a billion times more kino than Horde
Well they added over 1000 quests so hopefully the Horde experience is improved.
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>>580886043
They look more "aquatic" than "sky or wind". Could have been kino them to be Naga who have partially regained their original state.
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>>580886996
>Tourist
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>>580887927
go to bed
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>>580886337
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>>580887024
Why is the male Skyborne icon the decapitated Night Elf male head icon
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Uhhh what's gonna happen to /ourguy/ and his 39 minions now that no one cares about retail? Did he make enough dosh from viewbotting his word first streams to secure retirement?
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>>580888087
which wones
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>Random meme private server
Didn't read, do not care.
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>>580887714
Fentborne Elbos
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love it
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is mythic+ even good or what? I don't play wow anymore I'm only here from the blizzcon announcements, but everyone seems to shitpost mythic+. I looked up a video and I can't even tell what's happening. looks like people pulling a billion mobs then the screen turns into an eye rape mess of nameplates and damage numbers.
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>>580888248
its 10 pm. why would i go to bed, i didnt ask anyone to post my chars lul
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>>580887275
I wish want their underwear for my velf.
New underwear options for all WoW races when?
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>>580888306
I think they just used the halloween mask icons for them on that site.
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>>580886043
They look good
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>In WoWforever, any bind-on-pickup drop will grant its transmog appearance to all eligible looters when it drops
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>>580887024
>Humans have +2% crit when wielding swords
>The rest only have +1%
Wanna bet all bis weapons will end up being axes?
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>Check Twitch stream
>Bunch of badass nerd babes playing D&D on the main stage
Man I love this company.
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>>580888626
This needs to be in retail
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>>580888626
lmao I thought transmog was le bad?
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>>580888694
Classicfags hate retail features right up until they get added to Classic.
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>>580888626
Doesn't apply to epics though
Hence I WILL be need rolling that Skullflame Shield just for the mog.
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>>580886337
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>Elf Shaman
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>>580888312
Liquid get like 5K viewers on their rwf streams people just tune at the end when Echo choke for hours and Liquid kill it in 30 mins
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Stupid-ass snake STAY DOWN.
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>>580886043
>>580888172
>Aqua elves
>29.99$
Hey that's not a bad idea.
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>>580886443
that cant be healthy for groin
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99% of all the QoL from WoWf going to be in Retail in 12.2 or 13.0.
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>>580888842
Yeah, letting the new tusk elf harawhatevers by shaman was a questionable choice.
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>>580888626
>>580888694
>>580888783
For some reason it's okay when classic+ does it.
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>>580884539
i did it :)
and topped dps by a fair margin
it was honestly way less stressful than i expected
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>>580888791
People will need that to sell on AH anyway
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>>580889127
maybe by like 14.0

retail devs too busy rushing out bugged patches to actually add any qol
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The forever general is moving so much faster than ours...
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the numbers are in and s2 midnight flopped bigly

everyone already stopped doing M+ and raid has all time record low participation in Mythic

guess we have Forever soon though
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>>580888473
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>>580888694
transmog is good especially when the babies who dislike it can turn it off
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>>580889127
>waiting a year for shit that already exists
Yeah I'm thinking no chance, I'm off to Forever.
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>>580889351
The stay ovee there. Let retail die.
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>>580889380
cute
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is it worth leveling a character in cata
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>>580889770
Depends what you mean by worth. Draenor has better xp/hour but Cata zones are pretty fun imo.
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>>580889934
>Cata zones
nta but arent cata zones just vanilla zones
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i hope the legendary dagger has xally trapped inside it again, with her making snide seething remarks at you while she impotently flails and demands to be set free.
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what the sigma
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>>580890041
They got reworked, but yeah, there are some zones that got introduced in Cata tho like Vash’jir
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>>580890041
no dude, they are torn apart and changed completely by the cataclysm. They are the same locations but completely different in all other aspects
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Now that we got bi-elfs will the gnome tranny come back from ff14?
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I don't even know why I'm still playing retail. I hate doing Mythic + because I don't know the routes for tanking. How the fuck am I supposed to know what the fuck to do? If Blizzard doesn't add an ingame system that shows what to do then I'm going to Forever and staying there forever.
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>retail and forever are same game but different timelines
We marvel multiverse now?
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shoutout to Shyleen
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>>580890217
>shadowlands bug still in the game
Fantastic. I bet it's fixed in Forever though.
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>>580890217
This is not a problem in WoW Forever
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>>580890530
they do have an in game system and there are also add ons you are just shit lazy and stupid
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>>580890530
You google a route and learn it.
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>>580890530
Most dungeons are completely linear this season anon
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china lost the mdi lmao it was literally rigged for them
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>>580890530
Did you try enabling the exact feature they added this expansion that tells you exactly which mobs to pull with an obvious golden glow??
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>NA wins MDI
>none of the players are from NA
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>>580890554
forever flops? -> we're excited to announce new exciting expansion for world of warcraft: last titan but it doesn't count (add forever features in retail)
forever good? -> we marvel multiverse now here's your overwatch collab
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>>580891153
didnt know this game had a big player base out on reservations and in casinos
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>topping damage with sba in m+
i thought this was supposed to be bad
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>>580876323
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>>580888834
That orc snota is diving into the prime blood elf beef steak quick frozen curtains every night and reshapes it with his huge youthful green ROD
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>>580889007
you wont impress anyone by being in a world 490 guild
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>24+ hours later and I'm finally at 95% of 12 hours watched for the banner
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boght 20 CE boxes of WoW forever.
Many retail players dont know or aren't buying the physical CEbox
These things are gonna sell like crazy when the retail players switch to forever and see its sold out.
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>>580891895
it took 20 mins on youtube to get all 4
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>>580892052
based scalperchad
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>he isnt comfy questing in his favorite zones
>hes sitting in m+ trying to get a group for 30+ minutes at a time
>he doesnt even have fun when he does get a group
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>>580891873
I'm posting about retail in a retail thread. Take your leave if you have a problem with that.
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i don't understand diablo 5 joint, d4 got released like three years ago it's nothing
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>>580892383
Look at all the fun ahead of you...

Like what?
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>>580892383
blud you should be in the Forever general
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>>580892121
thats not how time works lil unc
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>>580892412
you are begging for attention because you got no friends and you want someone to recognize you are a mazed raider, loser
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>>580892383
unironically how the fuck does classic have better lighting than retail
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>>580877242
This isn't something blizzard retarded dev team is able to pull off. Their cornerstone of game "design" is "number go up" mantra
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>>580892575
here is where you fags can't do the math. D4 came out 3 years ago, "why so soon for D5?" you naively ask. Well, diablo 5 comes out in four fucking years.

3+4 = 7

now, D4 and D5 will have a seven year gap. That is pretty normal
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lol retail is not getting the new graphics update.
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>>580892575
POE2 mogged them
same reason why forever is retail minus, they cant reach any new audience with retail and they cant remove stuff they think its bad without people sperging out
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>>580892575
D4 failed, it's better start completely new game. See Worldsoul saga and WoW Forever for example.

Nobody plays Worldsoul saga because all the negative shit, it's better start fresh and lie that this time you listen to the community and shit. You know the usual stuff they do with each expansion.
Maybe this time there will be another community council that lists our problems with the game.

Or just start with completely new game.
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Why the fuck Classic looks better than retail now
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>>580892784
Already posted it to my Discord buddies, so I posted it to my /wowg/ buddies after that. Genuinely kill yourself you spiteful cunt.
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>>580892383
this is my problem with current wow and most modern mmos. why the fuck is everything designed for you to not explore and engage with the worlds they build? why is it all about sitting in a 30 minute queue instead of adventuring?
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>>580892975
>why does WoW 2 look better than WoW 1
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>>580892975
there is no way you people think this awful shit looks good lmao >>580892830
literally anti soul light
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>>580892975
It's retail but classic.
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watch stream on quin69 stream hes shitting on retail and loves forever
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>new W3 campaign is basically an elaborate undead paladin backstory
>added to Forever but not Retail
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>>580893131
shan't
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>>580893050
Because most people are not mentally ill, they can't make alt #215 while running the same quests and zones forever pretending they are having a grand adventure.
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>>580892383
Oh I'm having so much fun in keys because I have friends playing the same MMO as I do. Friends I made playing this MMO, friends I made playing mazeplussy, because I'm not an antisocial retard that does solo questing in zones I clearly overgear by now. What fun is there doing millions of damage to mobs? Just find yourself a couple of friends, sis, you will like playing actual game with at least some challenge.
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Is it worth it to play BFA expansion as Alliance and Horde or just once it would suffice?
I'm main allliance but if horde gets unique fun quests and cinematics it might be good, though i assume everything mixes and becomes faction neutral near the end which is boring
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>>580893157
>nuDevs - Arthas is our bitch now! Just toggle it off if you don't like it!
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completely new render engine is forever only LMAO!
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>>580892383
you struck a mazedtranny nerve with this one

>>580893268
mmos have always been about adventure and grind. its the reason shit like osrs and gw2 still have thriving playerbases to this day. its the reason classic still has a much larger playerbase than retail.
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>>580893157
>>580893371
>why is the new released game promoting wow 2 and not wow 1?
Why are you retards?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8bPfo2wHZE

for some reason its on the wow channel not the other one i expected it to start on that one
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>Look how they massacred my boy!
FUCK YOU BLIZZARD!
I hate the Forsaken as well as the elves even more than before!
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quin69 just said retail is dead and forever is the new flag ship blizzard game.
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>>580893371
Retail 2.0 kek
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>>580893371
>completely new render engine
>a bunch of post processing effects that make this shit unplayable
I bet it sounded better in your head
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fog everywhere
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>>580893312
I'd say it's worth playing both sides, they're completely different story lines
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>>580893487
>its the reason classic still has a much larger playerbase than retail.
lmao ok lil gup I understand now you're just shitposting
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>>580893535
Imagine somethign so obvious even that retarded kiwi can tell lol
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>>580893043
You are the definition of a loser lmao. You got literally nothing going on so your entire persona is how you spend 4 days a week doing bosses for 4 months straight. No one wants to see your cheevos here
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>>580893371
It's so dogshit
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>>580893534
Nu-devs hate racist nazi chuds like him so they punched him really hard
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>>580893487
>gw2
Unlike blizzard "devs", arena net devs actually understand the horizontal progression principle really well.
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>>580893535
I think it's like PoE 1 & 2 situation. PoE 1 is going full zoom zoom while PoE 2 is more grounded and slower (at least most of the time)
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>"We take great care to make it gritty and lived in, make it feel it warcraft and feel authentic"

Wait did the guy on stage just admit the retail assets/artstyle dont feel like warcraft or am i having an ESL moment?

KEK if yes
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too funny
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>antisoul gas
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>>580893858
>or am i having an ESL moment?
Yes it's pretty obvious you're twisting their words.
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>>580893824
NTA but PoE1 development got totally shafted for PoE2 tho for atleast 1-2 years
I dont play currently so i cant tell about now
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>>580893724
Giving you one last (You) because you clearly need it. Hope you get whatever is bothering you checked out by a professional.
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>>580893371
It's not the mid 00's, no one's impressed by bloom anymore
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i like fog
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>IT LOOKS BAD BRO IT LOOKS BADDDD
Retrannies on suicide watch
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>>580893858
every single sentence they've uttered to sell forever has been shitting on retail
the quests, the writing, the world, the design philosophy. everything retail did for decades was a mistake. THIS time they'll do it right
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retail jeets seeth seeeethe fecaloids
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>>580893858
no
he is saying they're keeping it somewhat authentic as it was back then
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>>580892052
Please tell me you're joking
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>>580893157
>added to Forever but not Retail
They are, actually. Along with NE and Troll(???) Paladins.n
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>>580894010
>Yes it's pretty obvious you're twisting their words.
Can you please verbatum quote then without twisting what he said?
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>disc priest with OP talents
Literally WOTLK meta, only priests and paladins will be used for 10 men raids.
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>>580894020
Yeah but Blizzard has like 20x more employees than a small kiwi company
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>The zones can get windy now
Cool
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It looks like UE game now...
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>world revamp is for classic and not retail
jesus ....
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>/wowg/ has been melting down for 24 hours straight because forever will supersede retail and make it obsolete
>/wowcg/ has been melting down for 24 hours straight because forever is not pure classic and will make it obsolete
Is 4chan an echo chamber? Are people on other sites happy?
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>>580894110
Eh i wouldnt go so hard
>>580894146
But isnt that admitting that what was back then considered authentic warcraft isnt what currently is in retail?
Otherwise, he wouldnt say that like that no? or just copy paste retail graphics?
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retail jeets are saying this looks bad LMAO
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>>580894351
this looks bad
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>>580893858
They are trying to appeal to boomers that's why they say shit like this.

I find it extremely amusing because back in good old days people used to shit on WoW for being too cartoony, and not wow classic style is "gritty and authentic"
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>>580894183
Can't you just read his post? He posted the quote but he is pretending they are saying retail is le bad. I guess you're having an esl moment as well?
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>Biggest change in wow history
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>>580894351
this looks fucking great
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IT'S FUCKING OVER
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/blizzard/why-is-world-of-warcraft-forever-adding-another-elf-race-i-asked-blizzard
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>>580894234
>Yeah but Blizzard has like 20x more employees than a small kiwi company
If you think forever, especially if its a sucess, will no effect on retail development when 2 of the retail devs already said they were busy with work on forever i dont know what to tell you anon. Extra lol to pic microsoft/activsion blizzard as a paragon of investing more into devteam. No reason to argue this desu as always time will prove me right
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>>580894351
Putting filters and better rendering on shit textures and low poly models makes the game look uncanny. Hyperrealistic Mario tier garbage.
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incredible how they're wasting resources for classic shit. WE are the main game, WE should be getting all this zones updates and not some side game like classic
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what's the appeal of Forever? I don't understand it at all
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>>580894187
Where can I check the talents out?
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>>580894540
im glad we aren't getting blue blood elves personally
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>Shadows
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
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>>580894515
Alas, wow race design is forever held back by the chinese.
For the hot minute china was banned we got something other than Elves in Dwarves
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>>580893534
>>580893753
>2026
>The troons at blizzard are still seething and dilating over some minor antagonist that DARED to oppose Sneedvanus and the fag elves.
They weren't joking about the writing being marlel-tier, this is on par with those niggers still bashing Ant-man for slapping her bitch decades ago.
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>>580894592
sick ass graphics
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>>580894592
Its classic but fixed with proper classes design and balance.
Vanilla was a fucking mess of trash and people pretend it was good because it was their childhood game.
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>>580894593
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/
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>>580894592
boomer bait
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>>580894593
https://talentsforever.com/
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>>580894592
Blue Mary Sue elves
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Seething Jeet Fecaloid retail players
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>Look at all the "new" lighting effects and fog
>1 guy in the audience gasps dramatically
lol, lmao even
I'd be impressed if it was still 2008
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>>580894408
I think you are having an ESL moment because you can't apparently read that guys post. Where does he state retail le bad?

He pointed out that the designer indirectly admitted that the current wow doesnt feels like "authentic wow" from the games' launchnch. You're saying now, which i find ridiculous, thats totally not what he said. As why im asking how you arrived at such a conclusion and asking you to quote the specific order of words.
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What if retail is now classic and Forever is the new retail?
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>>580894325
I went to /r/games and top comments are cautiously optimistic or dismissive. Normies are very obviously not as doomer as /vg/ but nowhere near as ecstatic as they were when classic was announced.
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>>580893534
Okay, if they insist he return in some form, he better not just be a throwaway unit that gets killed immediately.
I want to see the most racist Abomination made. Like, the most coherent and intelligent sounding, just so he can shout all of the slurs and go on a rampage at everyone different to him.
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>>580894880
>Where does he state retail le bad?
>Wait did the guy on stage just admit the retail assets/artstyle dont feel like warcraft or am i having an ESL moment?
ESL moment confirmed for you bro.
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>>580893534
Acting as if the Forsaken wouldn't do this lmao, I thought you retards wanted them to be edgy again.
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Retail lost bigly and Forever won smally
Retail has 1 maybe 2 years max before maintenance mode
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wowg.... are we the second class citizens now? is this real? no retail content....
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Meme races like ogres will never be added
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>>580894894
interesting
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>>580894634
we got purple ones already
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>>580894519
If it's a success, I could see that eventually happening. But I'm also sure a lot of these changes, like what they're currently presenting, are coming to retail
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>>580894894
100% Forever is going to be their poster child moving forward. It's the new flagship WoW product.
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>>580895002
He's quite literally an optional side quest involving you scavenging some corpses because (you) were supposed to be in the original abomination
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>>580895015
We've been through worse before. It's not WoD levels of maintenance yet.
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>>580894515
>I want playable meme races but I'll never ever play one instead I'll whine on the forums that I will
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>>580895002
>Okay, if they insist he return in some form, he better not just be a throwaway unit that gets killed immediately.
Anon... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKKj3DmaXNQ
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Do people realize that WoW forever will die after 2 weeks of release?

It has just 4 races per faction and a brand new awful OC donut. Roleplayers won't touch it, PVE players won't touch it and certainly pvp players won't touch it

Those that want nostalgia will stay in Classic
Those that PAID for all the expansions, grinded all the cosmetic of expansions, are playing a newer race or newer class, etc. won't be playing this shit.

Like come on these 30 USD elves can't even be Paladins, the most popular playable characters right now are Belf paladin, Void Elf, Belf demon hunter, Night elf demon hunter. None of those exist in Forever.
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>>580895013
>Admitting art design changed means retai lle bad
Oh you genuinely are retarded. Gotcha. Greetings, SAAR
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>>580894515
>for Horde, being pretty is a big deal
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WATER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>580895092
>>580895182
Great, he's a "Here's your fucking fanservice, we're never bringing him up again." unit.
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lol retail dont get classic technology
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>>580895184
Laugh at this Fecaloid jeet. The new raid on launch is gonna get all the pve to race world first.
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>>580894515
>over
this was known since BC. The whole reason they added belfs in the first place was because horde only had uggos so no one but nerds and minmaxers wanted to play horde.
Sky elves suck dick and they could've come up with better options for both races but it is clear they don't want to invest in development of completely new sexy race for horde.
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>>580895237
See? That's why you're having another esl moment he is not even saying the art design changed.
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>>580895026
Just reskin Kul Tirans and stick some horn options along the hairstyles, since the only shit they can do now are allied races or the fucking Delgo dragons.
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what if retail was the classic we made along the way
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>>580895184
>Do people realize that WoW forever will die after 2 weeks of release?
I truly, genuinely feel bad for how hard you're coping. This is legitimately the future of WoW. Retail going forward is going to be even more of a lobby game and Forever is going to be the golden child.
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>>580895080
They gonna sure reheat alot of stuff they can port over but its not gonna be alot
They already said the forked/seperated the client from retail, and it's its own thing now that they will support and develop on their own, as opposed to classic
This is probally as close we will get to a wow 2 we will get for next 10 years
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>>580894515
>We keep making Elves because Elves are our most popular races
>It doesn't matter that the two Elves who are popular have never seen an ounce of losing their popularity with the dozen new Elf races we make and our new Elf races being commercial flops.
>Don't expect actual Warcraft races like Amani, Ogres or anything like that, we've got Sky Elves and fat Elves to sell instead to the Night Elf audience who'll never budge off Night Elf.
How did it get so bad bros?
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>>580894995
Being hopeful or buying the hype about a gaming announcement is incredibly foolhardy in 2026. Even the biggest fans of Forever are cautious and guarding every sentence with "if they don't fuck it up".
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how many times did they launch versions of classic for it to die withing 3 months lmao
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>>580895345
>The new raid on launch is gonna get all the pve to race world first.
kek echo is going to lose another one because the meme classic raids are a joke and liquid will clean it before their reset

>>580895432
>genuinely feel bad for how hard you're coping. This is legitimately the future of WoW. Retail going forward is going to be even more of a lobby game and Forever is going to be the golden child.
I feel sorry for your because that's what the classicfags said when classic was announced
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>>580894351
looks like jeet nigger shit. I want to strangle nigger devs until their eyes pop from their skull so i can rape the sockets and display them over my fireplace. See this brownoid? I murdered him, because he murdered WoW. Troons will not get the dick, I will remove theirs for them postmortem.
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Good job blizzard
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>>580895104
Getting the same repeat seasons with dungeons reused 10 times over seems like maintenance mode to me. Oh yeah we are forced to regrind crests in the maze with different colors and names.
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Retail will get this tech in next expansion anyway.
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>>580895571
lmao
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>Retail base is so outdated they cant implement the graphic changes from forever
KEEEEEEEEEKAROOOOOOOOO
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But can you walk on the water
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>>580895551
there's new raids anon
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>>580895014
>Acting as if the Forsaken wouldn't do this lmao, I thought you retards wanted them to be edgy again.
Shut up, elven lover! So Sylvanas, Forsaken and elves can, but no Amani Trolls, Zul'jin, Zul'jan, Garrosh, old Horde, old Alliance, humans, Garithos, orcs, trolls (especially Vol'jin), Scourge, Arthas, Anub'arak, tauren, Rexxar, Ogres, even night elves. Not to mention how they also collapsed Prince Kael at the beginning.

Absolutely not fair! Plus they all write from the retcon of Wow in recent years. Like the Forsaken they are sentient beings. What?! Better to take an alternative then.
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>>580895595
literally next patch
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>>580895691
we get new raids every patch
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Will the queen of /wowg/ play Forever? My skyborne elfie will finally be able to meet the queen in the new servers.
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>>580894515
>odds of Tuskarr or Taunka for TLT dropped to 0
damn
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>making "classic" low-poly models of new stuff
probably the most soulless thing I've ever seen
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>retail is so broken so they had to come up with WoW forever that replaces retail with new engine that support all these lighting, fog and water effects
There it is, The Last Titan is the end
It's WoW Forever from now on
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>>580874013
>Classic got Forever that is also too close to retail
>Retail got some dogshit patch update and giant mechanical dildo as a TLT trailer

it feels like they are gonna milk Forever and turn Retail into maintanace mod after TLT
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THEY ACTUALLY SHAFTED RETAIL PLAYERS COMPLETY THIS TIME

ITS ACTUALLY OVER OVER, YOUR 30 YEARS OF SERVICE DOWN THE DRAIN,

ENJOY
LMAO
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>>580895732
>>580895595
>Source: my tears!
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>>580895691
re-imagined raids are not going to do shit for the game longevity it will be just a week of raid logging
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People think they want WoW Forever but they really don't.
There's no way Blizzard can keep up a content treadmill fast enough to satisfy players who will be eternally stuck at level 60.
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>>580895731
What the fuck are you even talking about you schizo
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So why can't retail have all this cool new tech like mega region server/fog/lighting/water
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I don't know how to feel about this, what i do know is that i have a fucking elf fatigue
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>>580894515
Why didn't they just give us darkfallen then? There has to be another reason for this shit
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hopefully they remove class restrictions from transmog too so evoker gear is actually visible for once
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>>580895964
>What the fuck are you even talking about you schizo
On Sylvanas-simping!
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>>580895979
It's coming. Be patient. Like all the discord kittens who have been patient for Nelf Paladin.
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>>580895979
same reason why oldschool runescape gets chool shit and RS3 doesnt
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>>580895921
brand new raids are in Forever, anon
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>>580895979
it will be added 12.1.7.
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We are the classic version of the game now...
We can't handle all these changes without breaking up the game...

WoW Forever is the new retail, the new flagship.
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When are they gonna nerf Shadowmeld into the ground for the sake of faction balance?
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its so sad how this whole blizzcon gave nothing to retail, metzen didn't even show up, really speaks volumes better start making with the idea that wow retail is coming to an end
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as i suspected they dont mention weather because game has none
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>>580895859
What do you mean, anon? You can still sit in the maze all you want. You can also farm your 95512th mount recolor and raid 6 months to kill bosses that the 2 guilds killed in 2 weeks.
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>>580896119
Yes but again it's nothing but raid logging and it will break the heckin horizontal progression or no one will run those more than once for the novelty
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>>580896136
just disable racials in M+
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>>580895979
>he still does not get it
retail is dead. they are ending it after next expac. They are too scared to do WoW 2 like Guild wars with their 3rd game so they are tricking the playerbase with WoW:F.
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Interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFN3EuZ8vKg
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I dont know about "maintenance mode" but i will tell you guys one thing you can get used to:

Now they have a permanent version of the game they can keep "oldschool" and "hardcore" they will even tranny and marvel slop the retail game even more.

You might think this is already impossible but i feel like we aint seen anything yet. I genuinely am giggling at the stuff i imagining they're gonna put into TLT lmao
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Just force dlss 5 on retail
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It's over...
We got replaced...

FOREVER WON
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>>580895471
>and fat Elves
Yagrum Bros, we are home...
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>thread permaspammed by 3 demotivational forevertrannies
What leads to such disorders?
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>no realms in forever
>this means that youre always contending with bots and streamer cliques and mega discords
>that quest where you had to wait and there was a literal queue to kill a quest npc
>now youre going to have to deal with all of them
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It's very apparent that the retail team worked on the game because the classic team don't have the talent capable creative ability themselves. It's no coincidence that the UI, animations, and overall design for items and enshittification stand out so badly.
RIP Retail and RIP Classic wow. They'll definitely be much slower on the draw when it comes to updating Retail. Most new things will be locked behind paywalls in order to support the development. I miss when rapists worked at Blizzard, were I their team-leader, I would cage up every intern and allow my team to rape them until they died, in order to encourage and reward them for their efforts.
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>>580896345
I'm going to lie that's pretty fucking cool.
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blizzCON
bETA
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>>580895964
Racism in Warcraft is not okay, except for Sylvanas, Forsaken and Blood Elves.
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>>580896345
retoilet sisters... our fog doesn't look like this...
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>>580896397
>No realms in forever
>Economy is completely shafted in a week by 3 different gold making cartels.
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>>580896413
>Most new things will be locked behind paywalls in order to support the development.
Obviously, if you a thirdie you should play private servers.
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>>580894995
normies have a general disdain for Blizzard franchises in general these days
>WoW is seen as the lame MMO that’s only played by old people
>Diablo is seen as Chinese pandering slop after the Immortal fiasco
>Starcraft is considered an abandoned IP
>Hearthstone is seen as a P2W microtransaction hell
>OW had its reputation tarnished by the OW2 shitshow
>nobody even remembers HotS exists
Forever exists to recapture the Classic players that got bored without new content, normies who don’t care about WoW already won’t give a shit about it
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>>580896345
This looks so bad lol, like it was a baby's first attempt at using Unreal post-processing.
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QRD on water in Forever?
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>>580896594
that would be turtle wow actually
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>>580896027
Here's hoping. I love that tier 2 evoker set they made for the anniversary and it's wasted on a race that barely shows it
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The only reason I even entertain Retail is because my account is 22 years old.
There's 0 reason for me to play Forever.
The 'feeling' of Vanilla will never be captured again. That was a flash in the pan sort of experience due to the year it came out, and how the internet operated back then. Today it will just not happen. I don't understand how players think by doing X Y Z you will get that essence and feeling of Vanilla back.
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>it looks bad!!

gigacope. duskwood was supposed to be dark and creepy but they didn't have the tech
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>>580896345
Forever chads...
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>>580896345
comparing this with >>580892383 this shows just how much fucking better forever looks
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>>580896570
NTA but i think hearthstone is in a pretty good place because yugioh and magic just keep shitting their pants constantly for no reason
Pretty much spot onon the others tho, i would add that diablo is completly shafted by POE and now POE2
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Look Retail. It could be worse. Your game could've been outlived by Warcraft rumble of all things. You think you had it bad this year, think of the Diablo players. 4 taken out back for 5, while milking one last class with Amazon, all while ImmortalGODS survive another year.
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>>580896647
Never played it. I'm talking about what I see, and what I see looks like hot garbage.
Actually, I can't see shit with all the fog.
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>>580895571
ayoo where's the motion blur? chromatic aberration? lens flare? film grain? BLOOM??? unplayable. Blizzard failed to deliver GOOD graphics
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Retail bros...not like this....
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>>580896798
Not only did Immortal outlive D4. They're bringing back D3/Immortal classes for D5 over the D2 and D4 selection. Total immortality. Maybe Forever will last forever..
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>>580896345
Looks like I should be running around doing gens
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>>580895731
>Minority with funny names
>Live in the sewers
>Be absolute aberrations with a disgusting culture
>"Boohoo! We are le poor outcasts against le entire world!" Yet they are routinely the aggressors trying to destroy the living
>Constantly commit war crimes and get away with it
>But if you do as much as attempt to strike back, is le heckin' crime and they are justified to massacre you and torture your corpse while they laugh
Wait a second... the forsaken are je-
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>>580896701
Die die die ! your retail is worthless feel the weight of all that being made irrelevant you fecaloid
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>>580894515
>muh china

gay excuse
chinese love beutyu, doesnt mean it have to be blue fucking elves
could go with blood and high elves, naga etc, just make them sleek and hot
bLIzzARd
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> Try to find a proper guide to play the game in order in 2026 and have it explained how cataclysm/vanilla zones and the actual cataclysm expansion work
> The only videos about it are done by a femoid

Who did w*men take over WoW? They can't even appreciate the story they just wanna run around in slutmogs as blood elves/void elves/night elves
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>>580897081
Toggling that shit off immediately
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>>580896742
this look good but the light shit looks factually bad
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I would have preferred if WoW Forever was Blizzard making Vanilla what every player wanted at the time. It seems they're only half way there, namely with the race/class combos and zones. Perfect opportunity to do Ogre / High Elf (requested since the game was fucking announced).
They should have kept the Shamans Horde and Paladins Alliance. That was definitive to the Vanilla experience.
Making Engineering a class. Shit like that.
Instead we get Blue Elves and horizontal progression and still have server sharding.
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>Undead, Nelfie, and Troll Paladins
>no Velfie
:(
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>>580893534

I find it so funny how the horde cries 24/7 about Garithos and the racist alliance of lordaeron, yet now Garithos and the racists of lordaeron are all forsaken and thus, are in the horde.

Everyone who tried to genocide the Blood Elves in WC 3 are now the very undead that are part of the horde.
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>>580897203
BINGO!
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>>580896798
>outlived by Warcraft rumble
what happened to rumble? did it release or did they put it out of its misery before release?
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do blizzcon be finished now
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>>580897509
They stopped supporting it sometime last year. Then the people who's job were to make assets for the game got moved onto making the new assets/graphics for Warcraft 3's latest campaign.
Game just didn't do well
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https://x.com/MrGMYT/status/2098864607452623205
IT'S OVER
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>>580897424
kek I told you idiots the velf charger and the kultiran charger were deprecated spells from the paladin encounter before they changed it
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>>580896345
>has better water too
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Yeah

I'm quitting this shit and moving to Forever when it comes out
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>>580896381
They have very little agency/control in their lives so they latch onto something they can try and influence to try and stop that uncomfortable buzz in the back of their minds. Of course they could try and improve their lot in life but that requires actual effort so they spend 18 hours a day spamming a thread about a video game instead
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>>580897658
repost it few more times, we didnt see it 50 times already.
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>>580897081
this blurry and bloomy shit will be an annoying noise after honeymoon period (first 20 mins) is over
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>>580897241
The Cataclysm expansion worked by leveling in the transformed Vanilla zones (if low level) and then getting level cap (80-85) in the new Cata zones (Twilight Highlands, Uldum, Deepholm, etc)
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yea, after seeing all this i aint buying the 7 milly mount
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>>580897698
retoilet sisters... our water doesn't look like that...
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>>580897705
said no one ever
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>>580895014
He's one of the most important characters in gaming history and they humiliate him like this
Just fuck off tourist
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holy shit do you really need a fucking panel to just tell that wow team discovered lighting
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has there been any retail stuff today?
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>>580897509
it released, failed to capture an audience, and got put in maintenance mode about a year ago
I thought it was fun but the Clash Royale style progression sucked
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xiv out lives retail!
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>>580897907
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>>580897907
no the preview and deepdive happened yesterday
the blizzcon is pretty much now only esports and community shit left
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What's the lore behind Night Elf Paladins? Knights of Elune or some shit?

Why would Night Elves get to be Paladins before Worgen or Kul Tirans? Didn't every human kingdom follow the Light.
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Now it's time to leave the sinking ship before it's too late and move to WoW Forever.
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>>580897907
Yes max was there and mdi happened!
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>>580898115
nelf paladin npc in legion is all i remember
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>>580898115
>Why would Night Elves get to be Paladins before Worgen or Kul Tirans?
Night Elf players haven't shut the fuck up about it since Legion. Plus the metafags want the Night Elf racials.
I'm pissed off that after the Tyrs Guard stuff in Dragonflight we still don't have KT Paladins.
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>>580897795

Yeah but it's confusing because that means if you create a character and level in their racial zone you're actually doing the cataclysm expansion even though TBC and wrath happened before.
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>>580897907
The m+ tournament happened
I didnt watch but I heard some USA chant in the back while watching classic+
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>>580898115
>What's the lore behind Night Elf Paladins? Knights of Elune or some shit?
It was explained in legion and lets be real blizzard is only giving them paladin because they know the alliance trannies would shit their pants if only the horde gets a new paladin.
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>>580898115
>What's the lore behind Night Elf Paladins.
Night Elves would've thrown a fit if they didn't get Paladin before Forsaken. So while blizzard made a entire questline dedicated to the story of Forsaken Paladins, they just shat out Night Elf Paladin cause please don't hate us anymore Night Elf fans we're sorry, we'll never touch Shadowmeld and give you every class in due time.
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>>580897494
>Literally use mentally challenged flesh golems as cannon fodder. And when they do get their asses kicked, they cry over their "allies", which are a bunch of shit-colored brutes, to do the heavy lifting.
Oh, oh... OH!
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>>580898171
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>>580898338
don't horde still have 2 more combinations than alliance
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>>580898326
Liquid wonned.
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>>580898115

I'm so confused at this point.
Paladins are supposed to be holy warriors of the light, they are not just "warriors of whatever religion".
Night Elf paladins are not supposed to be empowered by Elune and be just knights of Elune, Tauren paladins are retarded they shouldn't be using druidic sun magic while using hammers.

It would be so much simpler if "light is the power of worship, if you have faith in something, you get light powers" in the same way as DND you get paladin powers no matter to whom or to what your sacred Oath is to.

Buthere in WoW they make it so "Oh zandalari paladins use light because they worship a dinosaur" what?
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https://www.youtube.com/live/Duqv2j_7XSg
warcraft time!!!!!!!!!!
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where the fuck is the new thread
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>>580898581
>>580898581
>>580898581
new thread
new thread
new thread
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>>580898450
The alliance got velf dh and the horde got nothing
The horde should get forsaken paladin and that's it but they gave paladin to nelf to avoid their victim complex

>>580898472
>they are not just "warriors of whatever religion".
They are warriors of whatever religion since mop when blizzard introduced the zandalari and gurubashi paladins
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>>580898450
That's not the point. Forsaken getting Paladin was supposed to be the big trade off for Nightborne not getting DH at the start of the expansion when Void Elf did. They outright admitted on stage, it was intended to be Forsaken only originally. It's why it's the only one that's getting an actual questline to explain and celebrate it as well as cross-promotion between 3 different games.
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>>580898356
>It takes one random cow going "wait, if one of the eyes of the Earth Mother we worship is the moon, the other is the sun? MOOOOOOO! I'M SUNMAXXIN" to spawn an entire order of paladins and priests in the space between two expansions
>Now this shit for undead paladins
Paladin must be the most bastardized class in the game.
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>>580897656
>>580897960
Not surprising they were like 5 years late to rumble craze.
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>>580898651
but even counting the additional DH race horde still have 2 more combinations on alliance
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anon is on discord crying about forever lol.
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>>580898651
>They are warriors of whatever religion since mop

But then in Legion they made it very clear they are all just warriors who worship the light and use the light, not some shit about warriors of the sun with sun magic
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>>580898826
2 more normal classes. DH is still a hero class
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>>580897428
>Orcs tried to exterminate the elves in Warcraft 2
>Scourge nearly exterminated the elves in Warcraft 3
>Former members of the Scourge, Garithos' Army and the Scarlet Crusade turned undead are now part of the Forsaken who have joined the Horde
>The Blood Elves joined the Horde through the Forsaken
>Later Garrosh wanted to exterminate the Blood Elves
>The Blood Elves still remained in the Horde due to Jaina's paranoia in Dalaran
>The Blood Elves still don't want the Alliance because of Garithos, and the Alliance in Stormwind didn't even know what happened to him

You are right. This is literally irony. The Blood Elves defected to the group that wanted to exterminate them and stayed there. Lol. Amani Trolls and Ogres are still missing in Horde and Blood Elves are cooked. Lol.
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>>580898887
dh is a shit class for autistic faggots that can't stand still even in-game and desperately want to feel special
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>>580898472
>"light is the power of worship, if you have faith in something, you get light powers"
That's basically what they've made it in the lore.
They are just too lazy to skin non Light worshipping Paladins to have effects that make sense.

It's the same with Night Elf Priests not having moon spells instead of light ones.
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>>580898472
realistically every race should be able to be every class
like yeah the Night Elf culture doesn’t really account for paladins, but the player is a random Night Elf doing their own thing, they could just worship the light for their own reasons
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Nightborne still dont have DH?
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>>580898651
yea but being a velf dh over a nelf for literally any content in the game is gigabait so it doesn't count
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>>580898826
Paladin option is not the problem, for some reason the playerbase is obsessed with the special options for shaman, druid and paladin those must be balanced for reasons I don't understand but they had to give something to the alliance or face their social shitposting

>>580898878
No that's not what happened in legion not to mention nelf paladin was introduced in legion.
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can someone show me where the battlenet authenticator app is? i havent played in a bit and i dont know where it is. maybe i deleted it off my phone
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>>580899015
That's probably never going to happen for the same reason worgens or kultirans got nothing right now, they are not popular like nelf.
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Since M+ is centered around competitive esports garbage, if Blizzard was based they would make it so RACIALS are disabled when running M+, forcing players to only bring the class.
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>>580899015
Maybe in WoW Forever.
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>>580898637
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RETOILET IS ABANDONWARE

CLASSIC+ HAS INSANE RENDERING TECH
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>>580899185
wdym it's just called battle.net on any app store
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My Orc Male warrior and DK were never fully against the Alliance being present in the Silvermoon because they love Human and High/Night elf Males and their strong lean backquarters. Especially nelf males because they are tall strong and love BGC.
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>>580899332
>implying the tech isn't coming to retail
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>>580896345
Im willing to bet that fog hides a lot of graphics errors and artifacts.
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>>580899001

But Light is its own cosmic magic, if they are not wielding the lights, then they can't be Paladins. They would be some weird "oh i wield Elune magic but i use a sword".
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how do you queue up for the lair world boss? like on world tier the easy version
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>>580899335
oh i think i need to restore the authenticator but i dont know the serial number or restore code
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>>580899332
>>580899407
>retail cannot handle the new rendering tech
>it breaks whole game down just like how latest patches broke several things at the same time
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>>580899498
Yes, which is exactly why Night Elf fags for the last 10 years have been pushing to get special elune themed ability cosmetics as well.
It's the race of people who just want, want, want.
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>worlo sunsetting
it's a sad day
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Retailbros... I'm working the post timer for all its worth but no one is falling for my doomjeet posts...
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>>580899615
>It's the race of people who just want, want, want.
Chinese?
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>>580897081
Imagine Stiches comes lumbering out of that fog
Goosebump!!
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Doomposters are making me cut my wrists. I don't want retail to die...
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>>580899558
You just walk into the lair's entrance and it auto joins you with other people
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>>580899332
>Forever specs
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a toast to forever and retail wow
two biggest winners
xiv mad
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Maybe it's just me but I can't think of a single time I was sitting there stumped and wishing "man I wish this item was the right armor class so I could transmog it with the rest of this"

Most simple stuff like eyepatches and hats and shit are Cosmetic now anyway so it doesn't matter
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>>580899762
xiv come
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forever has arthas
retail dont have arthas
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>>580899863
>worst character from dogshit series
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Could XIV save retail in this case from Forever?
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>Evercoal
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>>580899964
>Has Arthas
Oh no no no. He thinks he's getting Arthas. He doesn't know, HE DONDU KNOW. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT WHAT IFS, THAT MEANS IT'LL BE NERZHUL IN CHARGE, ARTHAS GONE BYE BYE, OHOHOHOOOOO
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>>580899597
Are you aware forever is built on the retail client? I feel like you think they are using a new engine.
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>>580899843
>tfw 2070 super
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>>580899784
oh shit lol ty
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>GW2 is going forward with GW3
>XIV is going forward with Evercold
>WoW classic is going forward with WoW Forever
>retail wow stops with the last troon
bros...
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RETOILET SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
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>>580900513
post it on wowcg lil unc classic darkshire is not our problem
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what is this thread ? I see so many retail players hyped for forever than classic players?
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>>580899843
>All this for a decades-old engine with dozens of coats of paint
No matter what, Blizzard is still Nvidia's strongest soldier.
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>>580900634
Because forever is made for retail players and not for classic players, it shouldn't be hard to understand.
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i feel like classic fags are extremely mad about forever and trying to shit on retail fags
but most retailfags are just like "yeah forever looks like fun i'll try it"
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>>580900634
>shitposting
>players
Lets pretend that's the case for a minute, it's because Classic got shit on so hard that their precious Classic+ turned out to be Retail-.
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>>580900634
Ion has our back and gives us retail chads Forever and the classic chuds are seething because we get to play both
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i had shit raid night and thus i fucking hate myself and wanna die
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>>580900930
lol
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I feel like this is it, we had a good run and I guess now I get why it is called The Last Titan...
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>muh mounts mogs and cheevos collection
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>>580900801
>he says, while posting in the literal bump limit soon-to-404 dead thread in the abandoned game
Just have some fucking balls and admit you lost. Good lord, it's a videogame. This level of delusional tribalism and coping over a game being discontinued is wild man.
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>>580900930
you will get your 1% boofie next week and you'll get the bosses down in 4 months stay strong
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How come in other generals there's always a mentally ill autist obsessed with making the threads himself and gets very upset and starts spamming if someone else dares make the general, but WoWg doesn't have that and NOBODY wants to bake new threads?
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Weather is still a thing in forever right
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>>580900801
>>580900863
but why are classic fags mad
it's explicitly aiming to preserve the soul and feel of classic
do they really hate graphics updates and QoL improvements that much?
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>>580900361
disable gaytracing and it can run on any shitbox with a good cpu
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>>580901049
>it's explicitly aiming to preserve the soul and feel of classic
Aiming.
And missing.
They're somehow hitting the guy behind them instead of the target.
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>>580901030
we had autistic fursloppers that made them, but they all roped
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>>580901049
>it's explicitly aiming to preserve the soul and feel of classic
No it isn't, they are adding a shitty disney race, transmog, hd models, hd mounts and retail spells this is not even close to preserving the spirit of classic
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>>580901049
mostly the blue elves. the way i see it is basically a cash shop item that faggots pay for so i don't have to pay for an expansions worth of content, as forever only requires a sub
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>>580900983
RETOILET SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9EKzvTo3g0
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Undead Paladin chads cannot stop winning
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dey suddenly vanished idk where they do be wenting
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if you're a classicfag and you're mad about forever, maybe you should go to the new general >>580900240 and fight with the crowd that is excited for forever, instead of here fighting with people who are either indifferent or cautiously optimistic about it
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let me know when the classicfags and /v/ tourists get bored and leave
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>>580901049
>preserve the feel of classic
>retail animations
>retail UI
>retail dialog
>retail graphics
>retail looking races
>retail quality of life
uh huh
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>>580901505
I legit rather xiv fags than classic+fags
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I fucking killed retail lmao, classic fucking won, retail casuals are all hyped up about classic lol!!! Come and fucking kill me yourself you fucking fag going in our classic thread false flagging retail is fucking dead. I am at peace.
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>>580901517
I'm not sure what the classicfags expected when they bitched about wanting classic+ to be made by modern blizzard.
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>>580901505
they are gone now
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Is it true you can get to lvl 80 in 1 hour?
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>>580901628
Okay, tell me your name and address then
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i hope they hurry i need to go big poopy
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>Metzen worked on classic plus
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>580901724
I am at peace and bliss. I know you fucking retail fags would false flag in our threads for years now we fuckiong won.
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>bitch about classic+ for years
>get classic+
>autistic meltdowns
Being a classicfag is just a mental illness isn't it?
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>>580901850
>the shitposters were right
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im blue elf druid
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The fuck is happening I actually had to search for /wowg/ to find this thread.
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>>580901902
Most of the shitposts is made by people who haven't played wow in years
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>Chris Metzen personally drew up the island for Skelves
Each time something new about the man is released I ask myself more about how the fuck he managed to dupe us all into worshipping him.
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>>580901850
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>Metzen is rejuvenated by Forever
He cucked us...
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>>580901902
all you need is talent changes, old races, new zones and quests, new dungeons, and progression that makes the game playable for years, not that difficult to understand unless your brain is rotten from modern slop
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>Metzen approved Skyborne, the blue blood elves
Yea it's over for retail
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>>580901902
Being a Blizzdrone is a mental illness, and even more so in the post-Shadowlands era.
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>>580902018
>>580902138
>Metzen did all this!
>But you aren't allowed to see him or hear it from his own mouth!
Basically puppeting his corpse
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>>580902231
youre in the retail thread. you can't go back to wowcg huh? kys
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>>580901965
Everyone gave up on Retail, I think Midnight sort of finally broke the little faith and interest people had post-Shadowlands. Forever kind of put the last nail in the coffin.
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>>580901505
Oh don't worry, he'll still be at it way past Nov 4th. It's not like he actually plays the game
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>>580901517
they've shown that they are explicitly reworking modern models to use OLD animations, and everything there is toggleable except the ui
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>>580902018
>>580902312
George Lucas'd kek
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>>580892582
>like what?
ZESTY lil unc... woundnt mind seeing you at THE shire...
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>Asmon is sold about Forever
He probably knows nothing about Ascension or Turtle WoW
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>>580902650
ye why would he dey dead
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>>580902650
He'll say what he needs to fuel the hype so he can play Forever to massive numbers for a few weeks before dropping it and doing a few rants about how its actually shit.
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>>580902650
oh god this is really pathetic. reflect on yourself
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>>580902650
Who cares.
All he knows is that his human warrior main is getting a skelf wifey.
We should all be so lucky.
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>>580902606
retail ui is not toggeable
retail dialog is not toggeable
retail races are not toggeable
retard raids are not toggeable
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>>580902804
wife on the left
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>>580902606
Untrue, many of the animations are from retail and the rigging is very clearly from retail. What they actually did is modify a few vanilla animations and force them to try work with the retail rigs.
>muh toggle
I would rather it be baseline. It's very clearly pandering to the retail crowd, and I would not want to play with them anyway. That's why I chose classic. But let's face it, the classic crowd are beyond help because they min-max and optimize the fun out of the game, and while that is admittedly "fun" for them, it leads down the same path 2019 classic did, where boosts and player interaction will be dead in the water outside of Discord and guilds. Players become much more snarky and all want to be le pro gamer because their favorite streamer told them so.
The game and overall landscape has changed for the worse, and while I will still play it, I will not enjoy it nearly as much as I did all those years ago in 2004.
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>>580902851
i give it 2 weeks tops before an addon to revert the ui and dialog is in
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>>580902804
>human getting anything
lmao
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>>580903206
>it doesnt count lol
lol you're coping because forever is made for retail players
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>Here's some recolored Blood Elves
>That'll be $29.99 + tip goy
>>
OGRES
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>>580903173
>I dont want to play with retail players
>I don't want to play with classic players, they take all the fun out of the game!
you seem fun and not annoying at all
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>>580903463
>>580903463
>>580903463
>>580903463
New
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>>580894515
behead all elf players
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>>580903431
>cant prove me wrong
Are you the 1st or 2nd player?
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>>580894515
Just open up the fucking reputations, you have the perfect mulligan opportunity you monkeys so get to it. The reputation window is the perfect UI environment to pick and choose your enemies for world pvp and crossfaction you morons.
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>>580875587
If anyone reports you you get money stolen with no human oversight.



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