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the ceo is so cute
>WoW Forever is just retail 2.0Pack it up.
bros why are they doing good shit for forever but not retail...
>TLT will be the last retail expansionis this true? what are they going to do after TLT?
>>580874013People are glazing the hs old gods but this one looks like pure shit wtf.
shamans got tanking spec?
>>580873915yeah before the expansion after that which will be the great convergence, the renaissance. They will combine all games and incorporate all players
>>580874215no there are no sod specs just retail like classes
Which one of you futa addicts sent this?
Is there any good Skyporn yet?
shuffle same shit, add in vanillale restart
>>580874205I mean he also looks bad in WoW
>>580874434me
>>580874501just look up belf r34 and tint your screen blue
paladin once again the hero class of classic+
>>580874171probably a few remix or mythic+ seasons before they let the realms rot like era
>>580874434A lot of people feel this way because their favorite race is not playable tho.>>580874603But yshaarj never had a model on retail?
>PLEASE GO PLAY OUR DEMO
PALADINS NO INTERRUPT WTF
I heard druids are getting a regular rez in WoW Forever, is it true?
Forever mogged us BIGLY.We lost.
wow godever
>>580874161Because no1 cares about a gam designed for 2 guilds
>>580874161Bevause they can finally sell their product without caring about lore, the story or canon. They can just put whatever into the shop and make 10x the money on the more simple assets.
>>580874501Just look up high elves they're the same race.
wtf are u faggots watching? i am on some housing preview. Why do you always chat about stuff that is not currently showing on blizzcon?
My therapist: Pink Xal'atath isn't real she can't hurt youBlizzard:
Why the fuck are you getting excited for some useless shit about racial and class identity?What does that have to do with Arator?What does that have to do with Windrunners?What the fuck is WRONG with you people?
>>580874870Forever deep dive. It just ended, started an hour ago.
guys I think wow classic has the sigils
Add Draenei and FemGobs
>>580874870link housing
Should this system be implemented to retail?
why is Forever getting all this good new shit and we get nothing? what the fuckthis isnt fucking fair. it feels like blizz is abandoning retailWHAT THE FUCK fuck this shitblizzard
>>580874870The thing that was on the main stage and main stream? Retard?
>>580875040blizzcon JUST started half an hour ago, no?
>>580875104yes to the rp rulesthe rest is irrelevant
>>580875128literally none of what they showed for forever is as meaningful or exciting as new windrunner story content in 12.2
APOLOGIZE TO SEASON OF DISCOVERY RIGHT NOW
>>580875104We're already realmless, shit only matters for crafting orders.
>High Elf exiles somehow form an entire society we never saw before nowwhy has this happened three times now
>>580875128>why does this new game have more news than our mid-expansion game?gee i dunno
>>580875164no it fucking wasnt fagatron, i had the stream open on my computer all morning, went to make soup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJlVs19-nJY&t=1713s>Damage numbers are straight out of retail>Literally nothing can kill you unless you afkHeres your classic plus straight out of blizzard hairy asshole
>>580875231I bet there are some weirdos who actually believe this
>>580875205You're right. These rules should be implemented.>>580875128Let the classicfags have one win, Anon. Metzen will come back next Blizzcon to unveil The Last Titan.
>>580875183There's different streams going on at the same time.
>>580875278Because people really really want to play elves anon. pretty simple.you see they aren't going to bother pulling some OC bullshit out of the ass for a race that no one will actually play, like ogres.
>>580875408aw fuckwell maybe mention that ahead of time next time, gaywad
Please merge/destroy RP realms, it would be so funny you would see troons rope
>>580875104>rp realms have “strict naming conventions”how is that enforced?
>>580875516They have a schedule on the official site where shit overlaps. You can click what interests you and get a direct link.
>>580875348retard
The cute lively girl (female) in my guild that only plays retail and was very excited for Blizzcon seems very down and muted today
>>580875404You know those rules are ALREADY a thing on retail since forever? Even asmongold got banned for disrupting rp servers once.
WHY THE F*CK ARE THEY PUTTING ALL THIS EFFORT AND RESOURCES INTO CLASSIC INSTEAD OF MAKING RETAIL GOOD FFS FUCK BLIZZARD
Rpers are so funny to me. They always claim they like Warcraft but will go out their way to try and roleplay anything but Warcraft.It's gotten so bad a bunch of them got jobs at Blizzard so they can make Warcraft less Warcraft and more like Moonguard slop's idea of Warcraft
>>580875104Obviously yes. One of the biggest issues with Retail for new players is the game auto sticking you on some dead realm.
>>580875587All I know is you get 2 names on Forever
>>580875664bro ive been collecting mounts, mogs and achievements for 15 years... it all feels pointless now
>>580875617ok well how am i the retard? Sounds like a bad design to have your thing have more than 1 stage. What if someone wants to watch 2 at the same time in person? They have to choose. That is why i will never go to a music festival either, what if i like 2 bands that play at the same time. retarded design
god i wish i were my vulpera
>>580875746But being on a dead realm doesnt matter until you try to raid mythic, which new players arentBut sure dissolve the servers
>>580875664Once Forever is done soaking up the resources they can be diverted back to Retail again. Don't lose hope, Anon. Just stay subscribed and pump those engagement metrics!
>>580875664because retail players turned retail into what it is now and they should be contained just like #nochange classic tardsforever will be for all the players who arent retarded
>>580875801Do you even know what a "convention" is?
>>580875664The people playing retail are already mazed.The goal of Forever is to get new players into play retail without having to experience retail first.
Unpopular opinion: Opening up the transmog system completely, without armor class limitations RUINS the game.
>>580875664Sorry, chud. You get 1 more raid and more maze. The 2 guilds will also clear the raid in 2 weeks and you can spend 6 months doing so.
>>580875890But have you considered how it'd benefit my RP tho?
>>580875860yeah i do, what it is is flawed
>Diablo 5 guys!>What it means to celebrate 30 years of Diablo!>*complete silence*
Hearthstone wins again. This is peak.
>>580875664it's over nigger. all your cash shop mounts and mogs are worthless. get on the forever train or die
>>580875890I mean yeahBut it's the end of the game so might aswell, who fucking care
>>580875890Not a fan of it either but pandora's box has been opened when they added the first cosmetic set in WoD
>>580875972You being retarded and having the wrong stream open isn't a flaw with the system retardbro.
>>580875865Well they will play retail-
>>580875976>30 years of Diablo>but you gotta wait 3 more years to play Diablo 5>33 years of Diablo hype!
>>580875853>the braindead easy mode game is for the players who arent retardedUhh yeah sure
Shit game
can I mog priest gear as a hunter?
Some helpful links for retail friendshttps://www.nhs.uk/conditions/suicide/https://sprc.org/
>>580876073i am saying what if you are there in person? You are standing in the asuditorium for one stage and watching the other on your fucking phone? No of course you are not doing that. I am passed the whole stream mix up on my end i am now critiquing the entire design of multistage conventions and festivals. Move on, catch up with my argument
>>580876203yes
>>580875128>all this good new shitName one good shit in WoWf.
>>580876203>>580876238we don't know if you can mog tiers but you can mog off pieces with the same appearance
>>580874868
After seeing how much effort they're putting into Forever, no one is going to buy TLT unless it's a Legion-level expansion.
>>580876224>nhsBonigstan moment
>>580876203we dont know if class restrictions still apply to tier sets
>>580875995I like their design but doesn't change the fact that HS is a dogshit game.
>>580876224god i wish all europ*ans would all rope themselves
>>580875104retail already works like this they just lack last names so realms are basically the equivalent of thatif you pay attention (you dont) and click on people (you dont) you can see many different people from different realms even in open worldthey just aggressively congregate people in modern zones and purposefully leave them empty everywhere else to reduce server stressthey are greedy like that but the entire selling point of forever and classic is to see other cucks walking around
UHHH GUYS?!RETAIL 2.0 SCREENSHOT JUST LEAKED
>>580875664I'm sure Blizzard will add another FOMO piece of cheese to keep us happy.
>>580876325No one's gonna be buying Last Titan anyway. 2/3 of this trilogy has been dogshit and Metzen can't even be arsed to show his face to instil some wait for the payoff bs
Why do people keep saying WoW Forever is horizontal? This is clearly not horizontal, I don't think mazed WoW players can even comprehend what horizontal means
>>580875995Wasn't expecting yogg to be a weird frog to be honest. Also reminds me that both Nzoth and Yshaarj's official design in WoW came from Hearthstone in the first place.
>>580876237If you are there in person you pick the things you want to see and go watch them. If everybody could watch everything you would hit capacity instantly and most attendees wouldn't be able to watch at all.
Retail 2.0 looking good
>>580876517What do you think horizontal is? Provide a clear definition, other than "not this."
>>580875205>>580875404>You throw onto the rules, suddenly get banned for being 'OOC' for interacting with people OOC.>Or get banned for 'disrupting RP' by playing the game and not interacting with every single person IC.
>>580876594why is that tauren hot
>>580876517Right now they are coping with horizontal shit
>>580875890It makes sense because retail will go into maintenance mode after the next expansion.So the people who will stay get to have a little bit of fun with housing and their transmog collections before end of service in ~2029.
>>580876517Because it was the hot retard buzzword before the announcement and then blizzard learned into itYeah of course it's not horizontal but they need to sell preorders
>>580876606First of all, there wouldn't be a huge part of the systems panel that explains how powerful and epic all the new items are.
>>580875664because retail is bloated by years of expansions and systems.forever is essentially a fresh start for blizzard. Classic won
>uhh forever is for normalfags, not you mazedtards>releasing the same month as gta 6 LOL
>>580876510They're giving all this cool shit to Classic while we've been stuck with the same buggy slop for the past 2 and half expansions lol
>>580876594WoW!
>>580876791oh god i didnt even think about gta 6all of wow will be a ghost town, classic and retail
>>580876791>can play without having to fight over mobs#blessed
>>580876791>>580876906>she doesn't knowwow monogamers ain't playing GTA 6, sis
Classic+ replacing retoilet
>>580876791Funny you think pc players give two shits about GTA, that shit is console fag coded
>>580876791Why would wowbucks care about GTA6?
>>580877018usually that is the case, yes, however, gta 6 will be a paradigm shift. Senior citizens will even be playing this one. I do believe the CIA also has their hands in this release, something nefarious is going to be happening with its release.
>>580876791>no pc releasei sleepin
>>580876761Horizontal doesn't mean no powerful gear. It just means that any progression is not more powerful than existing options. So if there are powerful and epic new items, in future content, there can also be powerful and epic new items, just as long as they are not objectively superior to the previous powerful and epic items, making them redundant in the process.
>>580877139i give it 2 or 3 months tbdesu
>>580876832>Hey, has anyone seen my disneyfication pills?>Suspiciously Disney-shaped Tauren:
>>580876791>they are gonna post this on every sitekek you are an autist
I tire of these roleplayer dogs wasting recourses on needless shit.First it was more Elves, we want more Elves. I want to be able to represent myself as my preferred fucking Elf. Then it became making the plot revolve solely around their favourite races to push their own headcanons and fanfic as official canon. Then getting rid of male and female, so they can justify rping feminine looking men. Then came trading post, just a excuse to get a bunch of mogs in that rpers solely want. Then came housing. A thing only for rpers which recourses could've been used for something better. Now it's last names, cross region servers so they can rp with their yankie-doodle friends. Then came transmog, it's not fair I can't rock all the sexy Warlock sets on my Mage, boohoo. WoW's been shit since Legion when the rpers started getting hired and it's gotten progressively even worse the more say they've had under Holly Longdale. Where's the content. Where's the interest. You're now working on an 8 week patch cycle and half the time you spend developing said patch is actually spent on making new ways to get Void Elf cosmetics for your rp. And now we've got an official D&D rp guide book.Kill everyone from Moonguard, kill everyone from Argent Dawn. No one plays Wrymrest Accord. Fuck blizz. Fuck rpers. Fuck Moonguardcraft.
>>580877018The point is that new players arent touching this dogshit
>>580875587RP realms on live supposedly also have "strict naming conventions". How is it enforced? it isn't
Mage Tower skins will be coming back at the end of Midnight.
>a lot of the messaging around Forever has been about exploring Azeroth, never going to Outland or exploring other worlds>worlds plural>meanwhile, they keep setting up TLT as closing one chapter of WoW history and setting up for another>looking at what's been going on in retail, we have K'aresh, the new faction of ethereals, and the Nashabor story hintsIt seems pretty clear to me that the paradigm is going to be that Forever is the "Azeroth" game and retail becomes the "exploring different worlds in the universe" game. Instead of perpetually adding increasingly-improbable four-zone islands all over the oceans, we'll just start going to other worlds.
>>580877325Elves are not for rp tho elves are for EVERYONE they are the normalfag race especially because the humans look like monsters
>>580876594>>580876832>guy makes a meme of a hot sexy furry-designed tauren in 2019>4 years later, official Warcraft content
>people unironically complaining about them giving forever the most popular race when we have FOUR FUCKING FLAVORS OF MIDGETS
what the fuck wow forever actually sounds amazing..
>>580877612dwarfdark iron dwarfearthengnomemechagnometry 6
>>580877526>we'll just start>startmy dude what do you think outland, draenor and shadowlands are? we are going to other worlds since the very first expansion
>>580877325you forgot the worst offender. Warlock for all so they could justify their edgy Draenei Warlock and Night Elf characters
>>580876325>>580876510Why are you here, there is a different general for you "people". You don't have to come into the retail one and cry your heart out like a sissy.
>>580877719Sorry, I slipped up my word sequencing. I meant>we'll start justas in>we'll start only
UH OH
Where the fuck is Chris Metzen?
>>580877242But they still have rising item levels, so it's clearly vertical progression. They just permanently cap the max level, which does not matter in this case.
>>580877858old people see that dwarf and his bear and instantly start sobbing every single time
>>580877858BRVTAL MOGGING
>>580877904Working on Forever, more WC3 expansions, and the Warcraft TV show
>>580876594>Cry about retail being a disney game>Nu wow for "hardcore oldschool gamers" literally looks like a disney game
>>580875995shame we’ll never get a proper Black Empire expac
>>580877858WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO ONE CARES ABOUT DRAGONFLIGHT SEASON 17?!?!?!
>>580877858>retail lost to REFORGEDThat should say something
>>580878068Then he should be out here, he is far and away the best hype man they have. Ever time I see fucking Ion again I groan
>>580877985soulless retoilets will never understand
>>580877905It's only vertical progression if each new raid always has a higher item level than the last raid.
just got to the redhead portuguese girl, she is so cute
>>580877858>trailers for reddit+ cant even break 2 milIts so grim and over
When is the next WoW panel?
>>580876594POOR UNFORTUNATE SOULS
Horizontal progression is a meme buzzword. It comes from single player games where you can give the player a new power or ability that makes them able to do more things without necessarily making the game easier. It's about opening more options.This makes no sense in an MMO where you have distinct classes that have to have different abilities. Actual Horizontal Progression in an MMO leads to Homogenization as everybody slowly unlocks the ability to do everything.The end result of what MMO players mean when they ask for "Horizontal progression" is a massive graveyard of content that nobody will run because it doesn't have their BiS. New content that will release with shit loot that you'll maybe do once and then never again. Level 30 dungeons that everybody speedruns past anyways. It's the same end result but even more demoralizing for people who come into the game late. There's no chance they will ever see the inside of that dead instance.
>>580877526Forever is moreso about expanding the existing game world instead of moving to completely new locationsI’m willing to bet after TLT we go to Avaloren, not a new world/dimension
>>580877858What do you want to watch for Retail? There was literally nothing. The teaser wasn't even explicit. We learned nothing, we expect nothing.A sad blizzcon for WoW
>>580877858>Forever is fresh start retailCould unironically be the start of WoW 2 if it's good.
>>580877985>>580878183They feel nothing
They should stop having Blizzcons if they've got nothing big to show off for retail wow.Just go back to the old specific showcases system
>>580877904I believe he said that he doesn't want to be on stage ever again since he hates public appearance.
world of warcraft forever looks like absolute shit
Will there be deep dive for retail? patch 12.2?
>>580877858>ion: "yeah we should be flushing the retoilet...">*flushing sounds*
>>580878573That was yesterday
>>580878573They did one yesterday
>>580877904I don't think they want him to work on WoW: disney+
>>580878573LOL
>>580878551Really? It always looked like he was having a blast on stage. Thats a shame
>>580878382Horizontal progression comes from OSRS where it's incredibly slow and takes thousands and thousands of hours to unlock everything and by the time you've unlocked everything they've added another 500 hours of content, and if you're batshit addicted enough to still unlock everything then you're probably insane to make another alt and do it againWoW doesn't have this because it's probably going to take like 100 hours or less to reach 60 in Forever
>>580878551Then do a pre-recorded message. It's that simple. The fact he couldn't even be arsed to clarify Holly's statement about he wishes he didn't call it Warcraft is as telling as can be.
>>580878382they already explained this retardany new content gear and sets will have bonuses related to that content to make it easier, so you will be swapping your sets depending on what content you are trying to do
Offical BlizzCon rankingWoW: Retail 2.0 Forever >>>>>> WC3 Reforged > retoilet the last troonThat's it, thank you
>>580878573retoilet?
>warcraft tv show trailer releases>characters namedrop locations that are only in foreverhow will we cope?
when is the WoW panel today?
>>580878382Getting a mew ability is literally vertical progression, going from A to A&B is purely a gainIts only horizontal if you swap from A to B and A=B, which puts a greater onus on balanceHorizontal games are rare because theres no actual progression, just fluff, and only appeal to women. See GW2
>>580878724He talked about it some after he first retired in 2016, he said public speaking was incredibly stressful to him and combined with the stress of Titan's development and the Warcraft movie in the early 2010s it was exacerbating back pain he had, apparently some days he'd come home from work and just scream from the pain and scare his daughters which is when he realized he needed to retire
>>580878818start yelling and hitting myself in the head until my caretaker gives me a kit kat to calm down
>>580878725Osrs is a vertical progression game, and a single player gameIts closer to pokemon where you level up your whole team instead of just 1 character, but its still vertical
>>580878447>fresh start>immediately take a messy blue shit and don't flush
>>580878183This must be sarcasm, because forever is clearly the most soulless capitalist corposlop ever made.
world of gay "different" craft
>>580878382I played GW2 10 years after it came out and did every piece of content in the game easily, with hundreds of people running each major event.
Bros might have to buy the elf
>>580879030It's remarkable how much of a downer those fucking blue elves have put on Forever for me.
>just wait 1 more year for actual content in retail teeheeDisappointing.
>>580877268>>580878086
>>580879062This. Real straight men lust after bisexual blue elves with colorful hair instead of straight military women!
>>580878382Can't wait to see how Blizzard somehow fucks it up
>>580878724>anon learns anxiety riddled people are REALLY good at hiding their anxiety
>>580879069CoolMillions of people run m+, its pretty obvious nobody gives a shit about horizontal garbageAnd gw2 raiding is incredibly dead, players wont touch anything that takes actual effort just mindless world zero slop
>>580879174UMMM DID YOU NOT SEE THE GIANT ROBOT?
>Comes in>Cuts up Danusers planned expansion into a trilogy>Locks the entire writing team into making this shitty trilogy nobody wants out of a plot that would've been acceptable it was a 1 pump and dump expansion>Rounds up a bunch of writers and tells them fine they can actually write what they want for Classic+ instead>Doesn't bother showing his face again while Classic+ starts forcing some shit like Sky Elves which is the type of dumb shit retail writers wanna write about>Retail story at a all time low because these writers have zero interest in following through with it and keep half-arsing it every step of the wow.It really is his fault at the end of the day. We should've stuck with Danuser.
>>580879249I got the legendary armor from raids it's not dead and that was before they revamped the rewards
>>580879174Ya kinda retarded. It's fucking blizzcon.>woops sorry can't say or show anything cause it'll spoil 12.2!!!!!like wtf
what’s funny is they’re pushing this “forever is about the journey not the destination” while also having a horizontal progression endgameafter a few expansions (or their equivalent) there will be a shitload of endgame content and everyone will be rushing through the leveling to reach it
>>580879154It's literally just a belf.
>>580878909And then he immediately went to try to grift in the dnd market, got btfo, crawled back to wow and then his gay story got shat on again so now hes hiding his shame
Horizontalchads wonVerticalsissies seething
>>580879154Literally blood elf
I am an elf lover so I am the target audience
>>580877985intense nostalgia so deeply rooted in us that it evokes extreme emotion t. teared up
.>WoRlD Of WaRcaFT iS sO diSNEY now>Blizzard releases pic related>Not a fucking peep of complainingI think I genuinely am starting to hate this community.
>>580879332Danuser and his lore were awful for the game but at least he had somewhat of a vision and plan for his cosmic bullshit.Worldsoul has been so meandering and unfocused. The only "good" thing that felt like Warcraft has been Undermine and even they used it to make Goblins not Goblins anymore.
>>580879332People warned about him from the beginning.He was always just a poser, everything people say he achieved was made by other people.He is basically the Steve Jobs of WoW.
>>580879174Champion! I've been looking everywhere for (You).Oh, the head in the crystal ball? I'm trying something new. :)
>>580878573Why the fuck do you even care?Seriously. Who ITT is really seeing Forever and going "B-but what about the new le mazeroni patchnotes?!"? Are you even real?
>>580879154skybitches underwear looks sluttier somehow
>>580879240I have a lot of anxiety about public speaking and it did not make me look like a good public speaker, it made me look like an anxious retard.
>>580878839please respond
>copying horizontal progression from GW2 when they are moving to GW3Blizzard, late for the party as usual
>>580879565>Not a fucking peep of complainingShitposter or dumbest human being alive, call it
You guys holding up okay? Need a shoulder massage? Some warm milk? Tendies? Seems like you guys are really suffering.
how much time until the next wow panel? in minutes, please
that’s it I’m going back to Wizard101
>>580879715Its ok anon you can enjoy the shitposting for a few more months.
>>580879565>Not a fucking peep of complainingWhere the fuck have you been? Its nothing BUT complaining about blue elves
>>580879565classic player were always pro lgbt! Only retail chuds have a problem with the nu-elfs.
>>580879764I stopped enjoying /v/ tourists during Shadowlands
>>580879575Why don't we have kino like that in the game anymore? I don't think there was anything memorable this expansion and I've paid attention to all of it.
>>580878856Horizontal progression is a game design term from the 90s retard. That's the literal definition of it. Getting the ability to do something new without making your character better at doing any particular thing. If you get the ability to smash open doors and that unlocks new paths through the game, that's horizontal. This isn't up for debate, it is an objective term with a set definition.
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/forever-transmog-items-dropped-in-dungeons-unlock-appearance-for-whole-group-382865RETOILET WHEN?
>>580879665GW3 is hardly an mmo. Gacha game open world with grouping optional.
>>580879878ermm did you forget heckin jimothy?
>>580879565>>580879809True!This is our game
>>580879565premium b8 right here
>>580879840No king rules forever. Pretty fucking crazy to be dethroned by a better version of yourself, though. My condolences.
>>580875628He was unbanned in like 5 minutes and openly mocked the server for trying to police him out of it.WALL JUST GOT 5 FEET HIGHER BABY
>>580879809Yeah I do have a problem actually>Void Elves have existed for over 10 years now>They only ever got customization additions once and it was just Blood Elf skin colors>To date they're the only race to not get any new customizations
>>580879920This is too much of a good thing for retail.
>>580879665They're doing a Helldivers clone in 20 fucking 30 with Starcraft. Blizzard is so bad at this it's insane.
>>580879920>multiboxer takes 20 people into Siege of Orgrimmar and all the other old raids with legacy loot and something super rare at the end
>>580880024to be fair helldivers was an enormous success and everybody fell for the extraction shooter meme instead so that genre's still untapped
Can somebody post the image with the dev community image with two trans freaks, one male and one female
>>580879920retail doesnt really need thisyou can go back to any low level dungeon and slaughter itmodern dungeon set transmogs are given out through wq rewards>>580880097it doesnt apply in raids you retard
>Forever will use the restricted retail addon apilol its over for weakaura fags
>>580880195anon you can use weakauras on retail but the wa devs quit after the announcement
post red draenei
>>580880008When did Kul'Tirans and DI Dwarfs get new customizations?
It's fucking obvious that they are selling blue elfs, (that are just blood elf reskin) because there are no BE reskins in forever for now. They also clearly didn't want the controversy of selling BE or any already existing races. I expect them to add some of retail shit for free with time and after they milked people of their reskin. They will even say something like "We listened that you wanted BE's back, so here you go!"
>>580879985You're not funny.
>>580879920Only applies to low level poop gear so warriors aren't need rolling everything for transmog.It's not needed in retail because the roll system already has restrictions in place to prevent this.
>>580879574I feel like Gary Gyax is potentially a better comparison, especially given the weird cult of personality.
>>580879567part of the problem is you cant fault the writers for how meandering and disjointed the story is. you can tell entire patches get cut and reused later. management is to blame here. its extremely difficult to write a connected story when entire plotlines will get axed because programmers and 3d modelers didnt finish their jobs on time
>>580880317
>>580879161>>580879154>>580879030Why are yoga on so spastic it’s literally just to give both horde and alliance a sexy elf toon
>>580880408They're selling them because chinks will buy them by the literal millions. It was obviously a mandate from Microsoft and they were salient enough to know that selling Blood Elves would have resulted in an untenable shitstorm.
>>580879985>Pretty fucking crazy to be dethroned by a better version of yourself, though.We call that raising a proper son, Anon.
So how many of you are quitting this shit entirely to join Forever the moment it drops?
lol
>>580879912New ability is strictly betterThats vertical
>>580880541>It was obviously a mandate from MicrosoftNah you people are retarded like blaming bobby kotick for everything lmao the blizzard devs are fucking rats.
>>580880534No it's not. It's to fleece $30 out of autistic classic players. They couldn't sell blood or high elves without a huge backlash, but blue elves? EZ.
>>580880195Nobody cares about weakauras, we use meekauras now.
You're not going to intentionally play off-meta in m+ just so you can get a participation trophy title, right /wowg/?
>>580880615retard
>>580879154The fuck is wrong with his eyes?
>have 3 leveling boosts to use>like leveling too much to use themwish we could convert these into wow tokens or something
why do i feel like the updates to this will be slow, underwhelming and most likely paywalled
>>580880408you know how retail always adds new race/class combos in the dogshit filler .5 and .7 patches? they will do the same for classic+
>>580880728The most off-meta pick will still have a big amount of players because all brainlets will pick it to get boosted on.
I choose to believe that they just keep adding elves but only if they have some caveat that doesn't explicitly make them "high elves" just to fuck with those eternal autists for laughs
>>580880728I already main Augvoker so noI’ll take my participation trophy though
>>580880834You can see the forever roadmap and it's pretty small, forever is meant to be played in between retail seasons.
>>580880746Nothing? What the fuck are wrong with yours?
>>580880593The complete span of WoW: Forever audience in one picture.
>>580880728I play my main regardless of the meta anyway.
>>580880958You've had a rough life, buddy. Take it easy on the weekends.
they need to make getting 60 a massive grind so the main priority isn't just blasting to 60 to raid log
>Get the race change urge only after the sale ends
>>580880834>finish available content>wait 3 months>new level 40-43 dungeon gets added>nothing for another 3 monthsI’m so excited
>>580880593>retail lead world artist>working on Forever tooOh boy
>>580881150This panel is just talking about designing Maisara Caverns though
>>580880576Damn. Based and profound. See you in Forever, bro.
>>580881061>furry>shota>gay
Why is no one talking about demo lock? Liquid won the mdi yesterday because they played lock to the point they killed zuljan like 1 minute ahead echo.
retail is about to become District 9 for furtranniesplease migrate to /wowfg/ starting november 4th
>"best of both worlds"i see the vision
>>580881440>/wowfg/WoW Furry General.............
>>580881150>if only you knew how bad things really are.
Thread so dead and pathetic now the freak is desperate for attention so he's spamming porn.
>>580881440>all the anime shitposters already moved to wowfkek enjoy lil gup>>580881529in what universe is this trash the best of both worlds? this shit is nothing like classic, every class is raping everything with retail skills and there is no good end game like on retail.
>>580881061dont appreciate this
>>580881150TOLD YOU GUYS IT'S END OF SERVICE FOR RETAILKEKS
>>580879920This does solve the issue of someone needing your upgrade for their mog, but it feels so soulless when you collection isn't a personal endeavor.
yall niggas play too muchMODS
>>580869382why you posting my character lol
Will Forever have the WoW token?
>>580881150>artsy chick has green hair and is some generic libWow you don’t say
>>580881636>this shit is nothing like classic, every class is raping everything with retail skills and there is no good end game like on retail.thats the pointthis is best of both worldsbut its ion world
ok now i am starting to get excited for wow froever for some reason... i want to play hardcore
>>580881636>every class is raping everything with retail skillsObviously you did not watch gameplay streams. Outside of one overturned ability everything was doing perfectly normal damage for its level. Just accept the fact that retail lost. Forever is forever.
>>580881367Shut the fuck up
>>580880735A+B is better than A you retarded niggerMore abilities is better, thats straight vertical progression
>>580881136Check out this guy getting Loremaster in 3 months
>>580881885We get it, you're brown.
>>580881827>Obviously you did not watch gameplay streamslmao>Outside of one overturned ability everything was doing perfectly normal damage for its level. clown world
>>580881716I really want that faggot to suicideBut I will not snitch, or I will be an even lower faggot
nobody will care but I got my first character to max level :)should I just be rushing vault stuff?
>>580881656I guess it's time to accept the bitter truth...
If retail sister had bought more things in the ingame shop maybe Blizzard wouldn't have to abandon it for more financially loose players? Ever thought about that?
every single furfag needs to be culled
>>580882136>/either you rush the vault or you just DN
Maybe it was because of you who didn't buy that 90$ Brutosaur a while agoIT WAS ALL YOUR FAULT
>>580882136If you have friends get a couple of +10 carries for vault yeah.Otherwise do 3x Nightmare prey first, they're easy as sin. No need to feel rushed to fill vault since you only need 3 slots to get a reroll token which you can use to get myth track later.
>>580881717Sailor moon character and guild. Based
>>580881656>I killed retail> by becoming retailmonkeys paw
>>580882017is loremaster that impressive in classic? youre like 75% of the way there by the time you hit 60
we didnt listenwe shoulve have boughted the pig
>You can encounter all the players who share the same preference (for example the same preferred language)Will this work or will BR all just select English because that's where the carries are?
Did they have any more to say about that new roguelite ARPG mode coming in 12.1.7?
>>580882078You lost. Buy the sex elves and play Forever with everyone else.
>playing pay'doreiNGMI
>>580882795I accept your concession goy.
So if TLT is coming end of summer 2027, does this mean we be in 12.2 for 6+ months?!
>>580882687Most annoying ones will 100% select English and then complain that no one can understand them.
>>58088269712.1.7
>>580882942most season are 5-6 months long plus they are releasing remix afteer 12.2.7>>580883013they can use addons to convert text even when they pick EN
>>580882942They have no reason to rush Retail anymore, Forever is carrying the IP as of November.
>>580882871You lost the moment you felt the need to lie when you obviously didn't even watch gameplay.
>>580882795I'll play an actual gacha game before I get scammed into playing Blizzards new capital-extractor 3000.
>>580883097Unironically they need to slow the fuck down. It's becoming apparent that under the 8 week cycle all they can do is push out slop
>ass pull OC blue elves are more acceptable then J'lor
>>580883097They actually have to rush because forever is going to be dead by the spring of 2027
>>580883097its not even out yet
>>580882942Yes. Your content is Wrath Remix. Please clap.
>>580883419wow they are adding forever to retail as well?!
>>5808829426 months is pretty bog standard for a major patch length. Lines right up with the 7-8 week patch cycle.
I've been thonking.Between Classic (vanilla), Forever and Retail (muh worldsouls) there won't be any other place than Retail for people to play TBC and Wotlk content.
>>580879581I care. I exist. WoW forever is made for twitter and twitch and tiktok. WoW forever is made so that kids can finally enter the wonderful world of Azeroth.I don't give a fuck about WoWf.
>>580883126>he said unironically in a retail WoW thread How much does that new mount cost, friend?
paladin>paladinpaladin>paladinpaladin>paladinpaladin>paladinforever
>>580883647Well yeah you need classic to play old zones but all the tbc and towlk shit is right there except 1 scenario.
lollmao even
>>580882942TLT isn't end of summer, it's WINTER 2027. So it will be 8-10 months of 12.2+remix.
>>580883647WotLK Classic will be getting another re-release I'm pretty sure.
>>580883736instead of more race/class combos, we got rougelike diablo ripoff. it's over
>>580874013love wowg anons!!!
>>580883736>This is why Thrall has a spotlight on BlizzconIt's fucking nothingBlizzard baited players once again
>>580883876>I'm pretty sure.Why? Tbc is pretty dead right now and they are going to release wowf soon
this is how i feel
>>580883843Nah, it's Q3.>>580884005Pic related.
>>580884037Let Rhykker play PoE2 and stop asking him for Diablo 5
>>580884097>announce sc in 2030>announce d5 in 2029>no mention of the meme arthas gameFake tranny shit bro
>>580883419I still don't get why wraith. Nobody is going to stay subbed for some 20 year old 480p armor transmogs.
>>580884005vanilla -> wrath is getting infinite loop release every 4 to 5 years being the classic trilogy
>>580884210People are going to stay subbed when they see all the fomo mounts added and a fucking frostmourne/helm of domination
Talebound seems fun idk why you guys are hatin on it
>>580884097>(TBD 14.0) (TBD 15.0)But I was told they are abandoning retail after TLT?
>>580884163>meme arthas game>ARPGinternal name for D5 retard
Uh oh retailjeet meltie... how does it feel knowing that they have discontinued retail?
>>580883176The issue isnt the speed its that they waste dev time on worthless contentWe are in the 1st month of a 6th month patch, I already have no reason to go to the coiled isle, I already have no upgrades from m+ or delves, either I push m+ rating (which is literally only possible for top 1% so even though I can get that high 99% of players cannot break the cutoff) and raidlogThen you have>>580883736Thrall lorewalking is worthlessTurbulent timeways is just mmANOTHER round of level up boosts which does nothing for a main characterHoliday updates will be worthlessRoguelite mode isnt even part of retail its a standalone meme modeGearing cannot be done in 2 weeks, all game modes need to remain useful for at least 3 months
i need to make it to 3400 before classic+ comes out
>>580884371No one said that. The just know it's going to be put on life support and be made only for whales while they focus on the project they actually care about.
>>580884097This says confidential at the top, I will report you and then the FBI will arrest you.
>decide to try m+ for the first time>ilvl287>try to join some +2s>declined every timeam i retarded? am i just way undergeared?
>>580884501The goalpost is moving as we speak.
>>580884485You have two fucking months
>>580884575beta is on thursday
>>580884501>No one said that.
>>580884539People want to be carried.Especially if you're applying as DPS.
>>580884210Because we go to Northrend in TLT. They want people to experience it before the rework.
>>580884210They don't want you to play the remix, they want you to play Forever and to buy the $30 elf packs
>>580884407The constant funnel of catch-up gear is ruining the game.You have easy to get catch-up gear on the main path .0 , then even more on a .5 that makes the easy content of .0 useless, then again the same thing with the .7 patch, that doubly invalidates previous content.All wasted dev time on dumb systems, when they could just make a main one of the patch and incrimentally update it as the patch goes.
>>580884539At this point in the season if you were had been playing, solely via delves and boxes/prey, you could ding 90 and be 300 within a single day so nobody is going to want you nor does anyone even have a reason to do a 2. The only people who have 2s are alts who want to be carried to have 10s to farm.
>>580884210it’s to force players to run around Northrend so they can tell what’s changed in TLT
Can you take your AI jeets back?
>>580884210i did wrath for the first time earlier this month and it holds up. the gear rewards look like shit but they always have upscaled versions
>>580884856They will leave around december when wowf slows down
The one thing I like most about Forever is that it’s distracting all the hyperchuds that would be bellyaching about more troll paladins
>>580884802>At this point in the seasonnigger, season is three weeks old
Guys, please talk me out of buying this bundle. I just want the transmog. I don't give a fuck about Forever.
>>580884163that image is definitely fake but they did announce like 3 WarCraft things, no reason to keep piling things onthey announced the StarCraft shooter because it already leaked
>>580884963Doesn't matter that's the answer. You can be 300+ ilvl in a day on alt, nobody is going to invite your ass unless you're a tank/healer.
>>580884935undead paladin reroll soon>>580885004the bear is really cool but all the other rewards are trash
>>580885004i bought it. it looks nice
>>580885004None of it looks good except for the dwarf set, and you need to be a dwarf to have it look good on you.
Any news on Wrath?
>>580884801We arent even at catchup right now thoughThe initial gearing is just too fast. M+ is uncapped, you get way too many delve keys a week, they hand everyone a free tier drop immediately plus evefy 2 weeks which makes even tier tokens in raid worthless by week 3At the same time most of the content invalidated isnt good to begin with, but its still dev time wasted. 12.2 zone looks cool, too bad ill have 0 fucking reason to be there besides running to the raid
>>580885142Raped and murdered by Forever.
>>580885142remix in summer next year
>>580884802retard
Where is our capital is going to be in TLT? Dalaran is destroying and not coming back as far as I know
>>580885004>It's classic bros!>The bear mount has more pixels than an entire classic area
>>580885004i was a good goy and brought the physical edition
>>58088500415 years from now you're gonna be playing Forever and kicks yourself for not getting the pets when you could
>>580885331The draenei city velen mentioned during the heritage quest, all the .7 stay and while and listen confirmed the draenei will play a huge part on the next expansion
>>580885384Improved graphics was literally asked for
>>580885331Ulduar or Wrymrest probably.
I told you about Classic+You didn't believe mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC8Cy9FDzLM
>>580885004im thinking of buying it because it comes with the new wc3 campaign too
>>580885331Ebon Blade turning ICC into a stronghold could be cool.Imagine a reverse of Wrath where we start in Icecrown and Fjord/Peaks/Coldara are the endgame areas.
>>580885102>>580885103>>580885106>>580885384>>580885398>>580885403>>580885565I bought it. I hope Blizzard reworks ground mounts someday and I can use the bear regularly.
>>580885331Space. During the last raid of midnight the planet will literally blow up (still accesible through chromie) and we have to hurry and repair the exodar. It will become the orbital hub from where we will then start the following expansions about terraforming the moon so people can live on it.
>>580885436>we will build a new city so the Eredar can once again be united and safe>immediately fly it to the center of an active warzonestarting to agree with Hatuun that Velen doesn’t know what he’s doing
>>580885889hatuun is part of the new draneie society
>>580885771how do i buy the physical version with the statue? cant find on shop.i want that statue
>>580885331https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om6oOLhKOtY#t=690s
>>580885964Blizzard Gear StoreBrace yourself for extortionate shipping costs.
TURTLE ASCENSION DIED FOR THIS
>>580886027luckily i live in basedifornia, right by their HQ, cant possibly be that hard to ship it a few dozen miles.
Forver won. It f*cking won.Retail is on the chopping block after TLT
>>580885771Good goy.
>>580886131They don't ship stuff from their HQ. They ship stuff from their warehouse in China.
>>580886043any call dem BLUEd elves yet?
post good
> 32 hours non stop of our nigga TowellieeComfy weekend
I look cool, right?
>>580886337How long until furries are added to Forever?
>>580886443
>>580886443>nu-earthernno
>>580886464They're already in the game. Tauren + druids. Just like old times.
>>580886043Turtle WoW, Ascension, Epoch...They all died for... This.
Which Loa will your Darkspear paladin follow?
>>580886043I'm already going to play Forever, anon. You don't need to make it sound even more based.
If I could get Prot Warrior's retail gameplay in Forever, I'd switch in a heartbeat.
>>580886706maybe you will? they are adding retail shit to forever
>Undead Paladin
These make our racials look shoddy by comparison.We either need our own revamp or for combat racials to be simply deleted out of the game.
>>580886875It's basically TBC Prot. Not at all retail. No spec will be that bloated.
>>580886656>horde
Ah, classic.Just like how it used to be.
>>580886996forsaken and undead are completely different things
>>580887024our racials need to be washed down as to not impede the competitive integrity of m+ and WFRclassic doesnt have that issue
>>580887181>our racials need to be washed downmost of those racials are the same lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzTlYmYQLzkRETOILET WHEN?
>>580887132i have ptsd from this
>>580884501Holy fucking cope.
>>580884485Is 3400 the keystone myth achievement?
It's going to be real funny when Forever flops and everyone that continues to play it tries to cope about how it's still better than retail
>>580887024>Only 10% casting speed for troll stillToo busted even for forever
>>580887345yes, and the mount token
do i play human paladin or human warrior on forevertough choice
>>580886043>bisexual alphabet elvesbased
>>580887370why are you talking about forever in the retail thread lil bro?
>>580887057Strategist alone makes all the difference in the world. I couldn't live without the fluidity it adds to the gameplay.
>>580885517
>Undead Paladin could be cool, especially with transmog>Alliance side questing in vanilla is a billion times more kino than Horde
>>580887024a lot of these are retail racials though lol
If you are a WoW purist, Turtle WoW is objectively the BEST version of World of Warcraft to have ever existed, it is the truest experience of WoW Classic+If you disagree with this, then you're just a Blizzard cockblower and/or simply retarded.This isn't even ragebait or troll.
>>580887714Blood elf with Nightborne marks, cool.
>>580886464Wasn't the new disney furry Tauren face from Forever? Don't tell me that is coming to retail...
>>580886337well cheers for posting my chars, nice to see them here
>the large titan shown in northrend during TLT cinematic finishes the job sargeras started and plunges the sword deeper into azeroth
>>580887024>gnomes have replaced UD as the dedicated ganking race
>>580887847Go back to bed, Shenna. You're supposed to be working on your own MMO. Stop having nightmares about WoW Forever.
>>580887930azeroth is going to be free after 12.2
>>580887024Why are the horde racials like 50% better
dicks out for my nigga azeroth
>>580887796>Alliance side questing in vanilla is a billion times more kino than HordeWell they added over 1000 quests so hopefully the Horde experience is improved.
>>580886043They look more "aquatic" than "sky or wind". Could have been kino them to be Naga who have partially regained their original state.
>>580886996>Tourist
>>580887927go to bed
>>580886337
>>580887024Why is the male Skyborne icon the decapitated Night Elf male head icon
Uhhh what's gonna happen to /ourguy/ and his 39 minions now that no one cares about retail? Did he make enough dosh from viewbotting his word first streams to secure retirement?
>>580888087which wones
>Random meme private serverDidn't read, do not care.
>>580887714Fentborne Elbos
love it
is mythic+ even good or what? I don't play wow anymore I'm only here from the blizzcon announcements, but everyone seems to shitpost mythic+. I looked up a video and I can't even tell what's happening. looks like people pulling a billion mobs then the screen turns into an eye rape mess of nameplates and damage numbers.
>>580888248its 10 pm. why would i go to bed, i didnt ask anyone to post my chars lul
>>580887275I wish want their underwear for my velf.New underwear options for all WoW races when?
>>580888306I think they just used the halloween mask icons for them on that site.
>>580886043They look good
>In WoWforever, any bind-on-pickup drop will grant its transmog appearance to all eligible looters when it drops
>>580887024>Humans have +2% crit when wielding swords>The rest only have +1%Wanna bet all bis weapons will end up being axes?
>Check Twitch stream>Bunch of badass nerd babes playing D&D on the main stageMan I love this company.
>>580888626This needs to be in retail
>>580888626lmao I thought transmog was le bad?
>>580888694Classicfags hate retail features right up until they get added to Classic.
>>580888626Doesn't apply to epics thoughHence I WILL be need rolling that Skullflame Shield just for the mog.
>Elf Shaman
>>580888312Liquid get like 5K viewers on their rwf streams people just tune at the end when Echo choke for hours and Liquid kill it in 30 mins
Stupid-ass snake STAY DOWN.
>>580886043>>580888172>Aqua elves>29.99$Hey that's not a bad idea.
>>580886443that cant be healthy for groin
99% of all the QoL from WoWf going to be in Retail in 12.2 or 13.0.
>>580888842Yeah, letting the new tusk elf harawhatevers by shaman was a questionable choice.
>>580888626>>580888694>>580888783For some reason it's okay when classic+ does it.
>>580884539i did it :)and topped dps by a fair marginit was honestly way less stressful than i expected
>>580888791People will need that to sell on AH anyway
>>580889127maybe by like 14.0retail devs too busy rushing out bugged patches to actually add any qol
The forever general is moving so much faster than ours...
the numbers are in and s2 midnight flopped biglyeveryone already stopped doing M+ and raid has all time record low participation in Mythicguess we have Forever soon though
>>580888473
>>580888694transmog is good especially when the babies who dislike it can turn it off
>>580889127>waiting a year for shit that already existsYeah I'm thinking no chance, I'm off to Forever.
>>580889351The stay ovee there. Let retail die.
>>580889380cute
is it worth leveling a character in cata
>>580889770Depends what you mean by worth. Draenor has better xp/hour but Cata zones are pretty fun imo.
>>580889934>Cata zonesnta but arent cata zones just vanilla zones
i hope the legendary dagger has xally trapped inside it again, with her making snide seething remarks at you while she impotently flails and demands to be set free.
what the sigma
>>580890041They got reworked, but yeah, there are some zones that got introduced in Cata tho like Vash’jir
>>580890041no dude, they are torn apart and changed completely by the cataclysm. They are the same locations but completely different in all other aspects
Now that we got bi-elfs will the gnome tranny come back from ff14?
I don't even know why I'm still playing retail. I hate doing Mythic + because I don't know the routes for tanking. How the fuck am I supposed to know what the fuck to do? If Blizzard doesn't add an ingame system that shows what to do then I'm going to Forever and staying there forever.
>retail and forever are same game but different timelinesWe marvel multiverse now?
shoutout to Shyleen
>>580890217>shadowlands bug still in the gameFantastic. I bet it's fixed in Forever though.
>>580890217This is not a problem in WoW Forever
>>580890530they do have an in game system and there are also add ons you are just shit lazy and stupid
>>580890530You google a route and learn it.
>>580890530Most dungeons are completely linear this season anon
china lost the mdi lmao it was literally rigged for them
>>580890530Did you try enabling the exact feature they added this expansion that tells you exactly which mobs to pull with an obvious golden glow??
>NA wins MDI>none of the players are from NA
>>580890554forever flops? -> we're excited to announce new exciting expansion for world of warcraft: last titan but it doesn't count (add forever features in retail)forever good? -> we marvel multiverse now here's your overwatch collab
>>580891153didnt know this game had a big player base out on reservations and in casinos
>topping damage with sba in m+i thought this was supposed to be bad
>>580876323
>>580888834That orc snota is diving into the prime blood elf beef steak quick frozen curtains every night and reshapes it with his huge youthful green ROD
>>580889007you wont impress anyone by being in a world 490 guild
>24+ hours later and I'm finally at 95% of 12 hours watched for the banner
boght 20 CE boxes of WoW forever. Many retail players dont know or aren't buying the physical CEbox These things are gonna sell like crazy when the retail players switch to forever and see its sold out.
>>580891895it took 20 mins on youtube to get all 4
>>580892052based scalperchad
>he isnt comfy questing in his favorite zones>hes sitting in m+ trying to get a group for 30+ minutes at a time>he doesnt even have fun when he does get a group
>>580891873I'm posting about retail in a retail thread. Take your leave if you have a problem with that.
i don't understand diablo 5 joint, d4 got released like three years ago it's nothing
>>580892383Look at all the fun ahead of you...Like what?
>>580892383blud you should be in the Forever general
>>580892121thats not how time works lil unc
>>580892412you are begging for attention because you got no friends and you want someone to recognize you are a mazed raider, loser
>>580892383unironically how the fuck does classic have better lighting than retail
>>580877242This isn't something blizzard retarded dev team is able to pull off. Their cornerstone of game "design" is "number go up" mantra
>>580892575here is where you fags can't do the math. D4 came out 3 years ago, "why so soon for D5?" you naively ask. Well, diablo 5 comes out in four fucking years.3+4 = 7now, D4 and D5 will have a seven year gap. That is pretty normal
lol retail is not getting the new graphics update.
>>580892575POE2 mogged themsame reason why forever is retail minus, they cant reach any new audience with retail and they cant remove stuff they think its bad without people sperging out
>>580892575D4 failed, it's better start completely new game. See Worldsoul saga and WoW Forever for example.Nobody plays Worldsoul saga because all the negative shit, it's better start fresh and lie that this time you listen to the community and shit. You know the usual stuff they do with each expansion.Maybe this time there will be another community council that lists our problems with the game.Or just start with completely new game.
Why the fuck Classic looks better than retail now
>>580892784Already posted it to my Discord buddies, so I posted it to my /wowg/ buddies after that. Genuinely kill yourself you spiteful cunt.
>>580892383this is my problem with current wow and most modern mmos. why the fuck is everything designed for you to not explore and engage with the worlds they build? why is it all about sitting in a 30 minute queue instead of adventuring?
>>580892975>why does WoW 2 look better than WoW 1
>>580892975there is no way you people think this awful shit looks good lmao >>580892830literally anti soul light
>>580892975It's retail but classic.
watch stream on quin69 stream hes shitting on retail and loves forever
>new W3 campaign is basically an elaborate undead paladin backstory>added to Forever but not Retail
>>580893131shan't
>>580893050Because most people are not mentally ill, they can't make alt #215 while running the same quests and zones forever pretending they are having a grand adventure.
>>580892383Oh I'm having so much fun in keys because I have friends playing the same MMO as I do. Friends I made playing this MMO, friends I made playing mazeplussy, because I'm not an antisocial retard that does solo questing in zones I clearly overgear by now. What fun is there doing millions of damage to mobs? Just find yourself a couple of friends, sis, you will like playing actual game with at least some challenge.
Is it worth it to play BFA expansion as Alliance and Horde or just once it would suffice?I'm main allliance but if horde gets unique fun quests and cinematics it might be good, though i assume everything mixes and becomes faction neutral near the end which is boring
>>580893157>nuDevs - Arthas is our bitch now! Just toggle it off if you don't like it!
completely new render engine is forever only LMAO!
>>580892383you struck a mazedtranny nerve with this one>>580893268mmos have always been about adventure and grind. its the reason shit like osrs and gw2 still have thriving playerbases to this day. its the reason classic still has a much larger playerbase than retail.
>>580893157>>580893371>why is the new released game promoting wow 2 and not wow 1?Why are you retards?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8bPfo2wHZEfor some reason its on the wow channel not the other one i expected it to start on that one
>Look how they massacred my boy!FUCK YOU BLIZZARD!I hate the Forsaken as well as the elves even more than before!
quin69 just said retail is dead and forever is the new flag ship blizzard game.
>>580893371Retail 2.0 kek
>>580893371>completely new render engine>a bunch of post processing effects that make this shit unplayableI bet it sounded better in your head
fog everywhere
>>580893312I'd say it's worth playing both sides, they're completely different story lines
>>580893487>its the reason classic still has a much larger playerbase than retail.lmao ok lil gup I understand now you're just shitposting
>>580893535Imagine somethign so obvious even that retarded kiwi can tell lol
>>580893043You are the definition of a loser lmao. You got literally nothing going on so your entire persona is how you spend 4 days a week doing bosses for 4 months straight. No one wants to see your cheevos here
>>580893371It's so dogshit
>>580893534Nu-devs hate racist nazi chuds like him so they punched him really hard
>>580893487>gw2Unlike blizzard "devs", arena net devs actually understand the horizontal progression principle really well.
>>580893535I think it's like PoE 1 & 2 situation. PoE 1 is going full zoom zoom while PoE 2 is more grounded and slower (at least most of the time)
>"We take great care to make it gritty and lived in, make it feel it warcraft and feel authentic"Wait did the guy on stage just admit the retail assets/artstyle dont feel like warcraft or am i having an ESL moment?KEK if yes
too funny
>antisoul gas
>>580893858>or am i having an ESL moment?Yes it's pretty obvious you're twisting their words.
>>580893824NTA but PoE1 development got totally shafted for PoE2 tho for atleast 1-2 yearsI dont play currently so i cant tell about now
>>580893724Giving you one last (You) because you clearly need it. Hope you get whatever is bothering you checked out by a professional.
>>580893371It's not the mid 00's, no one's impressed by bloom anymore
i like fog
>IT LOOKS BAD BRO IT LOOKS BADDDDRetrannies on suicide watch
>>580893858every single sentence they've uttered to sell forever has been shitting on retailthe quests, the writing, the world, the design philosophy. everything retail did for decades was a mistake. THIS time they'll do it right
retail jeets seeth seeeethe fecaloids
>>580893858nohe is saying they're keeping it somewhat authentic as it was back then
>>580892052Please tell me you're joking
>>580893157>added to Forever but not RetailThey are, actually. Along with NE and Troll(???) Paladins.n
>>580894010>Yes it's pretty obvious you're twisting their words.Can you please verbatum quote then without twisting what he said?
>disc priest with OP talents Literally WOTLK meta, only priests and paladins will be used for 10 men raids.
>>580894020Yeah but Blizzard has like 20x more employees than a small kiwi company
>The zones can get windy nowCool
It looks like UE game now...
>world revamp is for classic and not retailjesus ....
>/wowg/ has been melting down for 24 hours straight because forever will supersede retail and make it obsolete>/wowcg/ has been melting down for 24 hours straight because forever is not pure classic and will make it obsoleteIs 4chan an echo chamber? Are people on other sites happy?
>>580894110Eh i wouldnt go so hard>>580894146But isnt that admitting that what was back then considered authentic warcraft isnt what currently is in retail?Otherwise, he wouldnt say that like that no? or just copy paste retail graphics?
retail jeets are saying this looks bad LMAO
>>580894351this looks bad
>>580893858They are trying to appeal to boomers that's why they say shit like this.I find it extremely amusing because back in good old days people used to shit on WoW for being too cartoony, and not wow classic style is "gritty and authentic"
>>580894183Can't you just read his post? He posted the quote but he is pretending they are saying retail is le bad. I guess you're having an esl moment as well?
>Biggest change in wow history
>>580894351this looks fucking great
IT'S FUCKING OVER https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/blizzard/why-is-world-of-warcraft-forever-adding-another-elf-race-i-asked-blizzard
>>580894234>Yeah but Blizzard has like 20x more employees than a small kiwi companyIf you think forever, especially if its a sucess, will no effect on retail development when 2 of the retail devs already said they were busy with work on forever i dont know what to tell you anon. Extra lol to pic microsoft/activsion blizzard as a paragon of investing more into devteam. No reason to argue this desu as always time will prove me right
>>580894351Putting filters and better rendering on shit textures and low poly models makes the game look uncanny. Hyperrealistic Mario tier garbage.
incredible how they're wasting resources for classic shit. WE are the main game, WE should be getting all this zones updates and not some side game like classic
what's the appeal of Forever? I don't understand it at all
>>580894187Where can I check the talents out?
>>580894540im glad we aren't getting blue blood elves personally
>ShadowsTHIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
>>580894515Alas, wow race design is forever held back by the chinese.For the hot minute china was banned we got something other than Elves in Dwarves
>>580893534>>580893753>2026>The troons at blizzard are still seething and dilating over some minor antagonist that DARED to oppose Sneedvanus and the fag elves.They weren't joking about the writing being marlel-tier, this is on par with those niggers still bashing Ant-man for slapping her bitch decades ago.
>>580894592sick ass graphics
>>580894592Its classic but fixed with proper classes design and balance.Vanilla was a fucking mess of trash and people pretend it was good because it was their childhood game.
>>580894593https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/
>>580894592boomer bait
>>580894593https://talentsforever.com/
>>580894592Blue Mary Sue elves
Seething Jeet Fecaloid retail players
>Look at all the "new" lighting effects and fog>1 guy in the audience gasps dramatically lol, lmao evenI'd be impressed if it was still 2008
>>580894408I think you are having an ESL moment because you can't apparently read that guys post. Where does he state retail le bad?He pointed out that the designer indirectly admitted that the current wow doesnt feels like "authentic wow" from the games' launchnch. You're saying now, which i find ridiculous, thats totally not what he said. As why im asking how you arrived at such a conclusion and asking you to quote the specific order of words.
What if retail is now classic and Forever is the new retail?
>>580894325I went to /r/games and top comments are cautiously optimistic or dismissive. Normies are very obviously not as doomer as /vg/ but nowhere near as ecstatic as they were when classic was announced.
>>580893534Okay, if they insist he return in some form, he better not just be a throwaway unit that gets killed immediately.I want to see the most racist Abomination made. Like, the most coherent and intelligent sounding, just so he can shout all of the slurs and go on a rampage at everyone different to him.
>>580894880>Where does he state retail le bad?>Wait did the guy on stage just admit the retail assets/artstyle dont feel like warcraft or am i having an ESL moment?ESL moment confirmed for you bro.
>>580893534Acting as if the Forsaken wouldn't do this lmao, I thought you retards wanted them to be edgy again.
Retail lost bigly and Forever won smallyRetail has 1 maybe 2 years max before maintenance mode
wowg.... are we the second class citizens now? is this real? no retail content....
Meme races like ogres will never be added
>>580894894interesting
>>580894634we got purple ones already
>>580894519If it's a success, I could see that eventually happening. But I'm also sure a lot of these changes, like what they're currently presenting, are coming to retail
>>580894894100% Forever is going to be their poster child moving forward. It's the new flagship WoW product.
>>580895002He's quite literally an optional side quest involving you scavenging some corpses because (you) were supposed to be in the original abomination
>>580895015We've been through worse before. It's not WoD levels of maintenance yet.
>>580894515>I want playable meme races but I'll never ever play one instead I'll whine on the forums that I will
>>580895002>Okay, if they insist he return in some form, he better not just be a throwaway unit that gets killed immediately.Anon... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKKj3DmaXNQ
Do people realize that WoW forever will die after 2 weeks of release?It has just 4 races per faction and a brand new awful OC donut. Roleplayers won't touch it, PVE players won't touch it and certainly pvp players won't touch itThose that want nostalgia will stay in ClassicThose that PAID for all the expansions, grinded all the cosmetic of expansions, are playing a newer race or newer class, etc. won't be playing this shit.Like come on these 30 USD elves can't even be Paladins, the most popular playable characters right now are Belf paladin, Void Elf, Belf demon hunter, Night elf demon hunter. None of those exist in Forever.
>>580895013>Admitting art design changed means retai lle badOh you genuinely are retarded. Gotcha. Greetings, SAAR
>>580894515>for Horde, being pretty is a big deal
WATER!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>580895092>>580895182Great, he's a "Here's your fucking fanservice, we're never bringing him up again." unit.
lol retail dont get classic technology
>>580895184Laugh at this Fecaloid jeet. The new raid on launch is gonna get all the pve to race world first.
>>580894515>overthis was known since BC. The whole reason they added belfs in the first place was because horde only had uggos so no one but nerds and minmaxers wanted to play horde.Sky elves suck dick and they could've come up with better options for both races but it is clear they don't want to invest in development of completely new sexy race for horde.
>>580895237See? That's why you're having another esl moment he is not even saying the art design changed.
>>580895026Just reskin Kul Tirans and stick some horn options along the hairstyles, since the only shit they can do now are allied races or the fucking Delgo dragons.
what if retail was the classic we made along the way
>>580895184>Do people realize that WoW forever will die after 2 weeks of release?I truly, genuinely feel bad for how hard you're coping. This is legitimately the future of WoW. Retail going forward is going to be even more of a lobby game and Forever is going to be the golden child.
>>580895080They gonna sure reheat alot of stuff they can port over but its not gonna be alotThey already said the forked/seperated the client from retail, and it's its own thing now that they will support and develop on their own, as opposed to classicThis is probally as close we will get to a wow 2 we will get for next 10 years
>>580894515>We keep making Elves because Elves are our most popular races>It doesn't matter that the two Elves who are popular have never seen an ounce of losing their popularity with the dozen new Elf races we make and our new Elf races being commercial flops.>Don't expect actual Warcraft races like Amani, Ogres or anything like that, we've got Sky Elves and fat Elves to sell instead to the Night Elf audience who'll never budge off Night Elf.How did it get so bad bros?
>>580894995Being hopeful or buying the hype about a gaming announcement is incredibly foolhardy in 2026. Even the biggest fans of Forever are cautious and guarding every sentence with "if they don't fuck it up".
how many times did they launch versions of classic for it to die withing 3 months lmao
>>580895345>The new raid on launch is gonna get all the pve to race world first.kek echo is going to lose another one because the meme classic raids are a joke and liquid will clean it before their reset>>580895432>genuinely feel bad for how hard you're coping. This is legitimately the future of WoW. Retail going forward is going to be even more of a lobby game and Forever is going to be the golden child.I feel sorry for your because that's what the classicfags said when classic was announced
>>580894351looks like jeet nigger shit. I want to strangle nigger devs until their eyes pop from their skull so i can rape the sockets and display them over my fireplace. See this brownoid? I murdered him, because he murdered WoW. Troons will not get the dick, I will remove theirs for them postmortem.
Good job blizzard
>>580895104Getting the same repeat seasons with dungeons reused 10 times over seems like maintenance mode to me. Oh yeah we are forced to regrind crests in the maze with different colors and names.
Retail will get this tech in next expansion anyway.
>>580895571lmao
>Retail base is so outdated they cant implement the graphic changes from foreverKEEEEEEEEEKAROOOOOOOOO
But can you walk on the water
>>580895551there's new raids anon
>>580895014>Acting as if the Forsaken wouldn't do this lmao, I thought you retards wanted them to be edgy again.Shut up, elven lover! So Sylvanas, Forsaken and elves can, but no Amani Trolls, Zul'jin, Zul'jan, Garrosh, old Horde, old Alliance, humans, Garithos, orcs, trolls (especially Vol'jin), Scourge, Arthas, Anub'arak, tauren, Rexxar, Ogres, even night elves. Not to mention how they also collapsed Prince Kael at the beginning.Absolutely not fair! Plus they all write from the retcon of Wow in recent years. Like the Forsaken they are sentient beings. What?! Better to take an alternative then.
>>580895595literally next patch
>>580895691we get new raids every patch
Will the queen of /wowg/ play Forever? My skyborne elfie will finally be able to meet the queen in the new servers.
>>580894515>odds of Tuskarr or Taunka for TLT dropped to 0damn
>making "classic" low-poly models of new stuffprobably the most soulless thing I've ever seen
>retail is so broken so they had to come up with WoW forever that replaces retail with new engine that support all these lighting, fog and water effectsThere it is, The Last Titan is the endIt's WoW Forever from now on
>>580874013>Classic got Forever that is also too close to retail>Retail got some dogshit patch update and giant mechanical dildo as a TLT trailerit feels like they are gonna milk Forever and turn Retail into maintanace mod after TLT
THEY ACTUALLY SHAFTED RETAIL PLAYERS COMPLETY THIS TIME ITS ACTUALLY OVER OVER, YOUR 30 YEARS OF SERVICE DOWN THE DRAIN, ENJOY LMAO
>>580895732>>580895595>Source: my tears!
>>580895691re-imagined raids are not going to do shit for the game longevity it will be just a week of raid logging
People think they want WoW Forever but they really don't.There's no way Blizzard can keep up a content treadmill fast enough to satisfy players who will be eternally stuck at level 60.
>>580895731What the fuck are you even talking about you schizo
So why can't retail have all this cool new tech like mega region server/fog/lighting/water
I don't know how to feel about this, what i do know is that i have a fucking elf fatigue
>>580894515Why didn't they just give us darkfallen then? There has to be another reason for this shit
hopefully they remove class restrictions from transmog too so evoker gear is actually visible for once
>>580895964>What the fuck are you even talking about you schizoOn Sylvanas-simping!
>>580895979It's coming. Be patient. Like all the discord kittens who have been patient for Nelf Paladin.
>>580895979same reason why oldschool runescape gets chool shit and RS3 doesnt
>>580895921brand new raids are in Forever, anon
>>580895979it will be added 12.1.7.
We are the classic version of the game now...We can't handle all these changes without breaking up the game...WoW Forever is the new retail, the new flagship.
When are they gonna nerf Shadowmeld into the ground for the sake of faction balance?
its so sad how this whole blizzcon gave nothing to retail, metzen didn't even show up, really speaks volumes better start making with the idea that wow retail is coming to an end
as i suspected they dont mention weather because game has none
>>580895859What do you mean, anon? You can still sit in the maze all you want. You can also farm your 95512th mount recolor and raid 6 months to kill bosses that the 2 guilds killed in 2 weeks.
>>580896119Yes but again it's nothing but raid logging and it will break the heckin horizontal progression or no one will run those more than once for the novelty
>>580896136just disable racials in M+
>>580895979>he still does not get itretail is dead. they are ending it after next expac. They are too scared to do WoW 2 like Guild wars with their 3rd game so they are tricking the playerbase with WoW:F.
Interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFN3EuZ8vKg
I dont know about "maintenance mode" but i will tell you guys one thing you can get used to:Now they have a permanent version of the game they can keep "oldschool" and "hardcore" they will even tranny and marvel slop the retail game even more.You might think this is already impossible but i feel like we aint seen anything yet. I genuinely am giggling at the stuff i imagining they're gonna put into TLT lmao
Just force dlss 5 on retail
It's over...We got replaced...FOREVER WON
>>580895471>and fat ElvesYagrum Bros, we are home...
>thread permaspammed by 3 demotivational forevertranniesWhat leads to such disorders?
>no realms in forever>this means that youre always contending with bots and streamer cliques and mega discords>that quest where you had to wait and there was a literal queue to kill a quest npc>now youre going to have to deal with all of them
It's very apparent that the retail team worked on the game because the classic team don't have the talent capable creative ability themselves. It's no coincidence that the UI, animations, and overall design for items and enshittification stand out so badly.RIP Retail and RIP Classic wow. They'll definitely be much slower on the draw when it comes to updating Retail. Most new things will be locked behind paywalls in order to support the development. I miss when rapists worked at Blizzard, were I their team-leader, I would cage up every intern and allow my team to rape them until they died, in order to encourage and reward them for their efforts.
>>580896345I'm going to lie that's pretty fucking cool.
blizzCONbETA
>>580895964Racism in Warcraft is not okay, except for Sylvanas, Forsaken and Blood Elves.
>>580896345retoilet sisters... our fog doesn't look like this...
>>580896397>No realms in forever>Economy is completely shafted in a week by 3 different gold making cartels.
>>580896413>Most new things will be locked behind paywalls in order to support the development.Obviously, if you a thirdie you should play private servers.
>>580894995normies have a general disdain for Blizzard franchises in general these days>WoW is seen as the lame MMO that’s only played by old people>Diablo is seen as Chinese pandering slop after the Immortal fiasco>Starcraft is considered an abandoned IP>Hearthstone is seen as a P2W microtransaction hell>OW had its reputation tarnished by the OW2 shitshow>nobody even remembers HotS existsForever exists to recapture the Classic players that got bored without new content, normies who don’t care about WoW already won’t give a shit about it
>>580896345This looks so bad lol, like it was a baby's first attempt at using Unreal post-processing.
QRD on water in Forever?
>>580896594that would be turtle wow actually
>>580896027Here's hoping. I love that tier 2 evoker set they made for the anniversary and it's wasted on a race that barely shows it
The only reason I even entertain Retail is because my account is 22 years old. There's 0 reason for me to play Forever.The 'feeling' of Vanilla will never be captured again. That was a flash in the pan sort of experience due to the year it came out, and how the internet operated back then. Today it will just not happen. I don't understand how players think by doing X Y Z you will get that essence and feeling of Vanilla back.
>it looks bad!!gigacope. duskwood was supposed to be dark and creepy but they didn't have the tech
>>580896345Forever chads...
>>580896345comparing this with >>580892383 this shows just how much fucking better forever looks
>>580896570NTA but i think hearthstone is in a pretty good place because yugioh and magic just keep shitting their pants constantly for no reasonPretty much spot onon the others tho, i would add that diablo is completly shafted by POE and now POE2
Look Retail. It could be worse. Your game could've been outlived by Warcraft rumble of all things. You think you had it bad this year, think of the Diablo players. 4 taken out back for 5, while milking one last class with Amazon, all while ImmortalGODS survive another year.
>>580896647Never played it. I'm talking about what I see, and what I see looks like hot garbage.Actually, I can't see shit with all the fog.
>>580895571ayoo where's the motion blur? chromatic aberration? lens flare? film grain? BLOOM??? unplayable. Blizzard failed to deliver GOOD graphics
Retail bros...not like this....
>>580896798Not only did Immortal outlive D4. They're bringing back D3/Immortal classes for D5 over the D2 and D4 selection. Total immortality. Maybe Forever will last forever..
>>580896345Looks like I should be running around doing gens
>>580895731>Minority with funny names>Live in the sewers>Be absolute aberrations with a disgusting culture>"Boohoo! We are le poor outcasts against le entire world!" Yet they are routinely the aggressors trying to destroy the living>Constantly commit war crimes and get away with it>But if you do as much as attempt to strike back, is le heckin' crime and they are justified to massacre you and torture your corpse while they laughWait a second... the forsaken are je-
>>580896701Die die die ! your retail is worthless feel the weight of all that being made irrelevant you fecaloid
>>580894515>muh chinagay excusechinese love beutyu, doesnt mean it have to be blue fucking elvescould go with blood and high elves, naga etc, just make them sleek and hotbLIzzARd
> Try to find a proper guide to play the game in order in 2026 and have it explained how cataclysm/vanilla zones and the actual cataclysm expansion work> The only videos about it are done by a femoidWho did w*men take over WoW? They can't even appreciate the story they just wanna run around in slutmogs as blood elves/void elves/night elves
>>580897081Toggling that shit off immediately
>>580896742this look good but the light shit looks factually bad
I would have preferred if WoW Forever was Blizzard making Vanilla what every player wanted at the time. It seems they're only half way there, namely with the race/class combos and zones. Perfect opportunity to do Ogre / High Elf (requested since the game was fucking announced). They should have kept the Shamans Horde and Paladins Alliance. That was definitive to the Vanilla experience. Making Engineering a class. Shit like that.Instead we get Blue Elves and horizontal progression and still have server sharding.
>Undead, Nelfie, and Troll Paladins>no Velfie:(
>>580893534I find it so funny how the horde cries 24/7 about Garithos and the racist alliance of lordaeron, yet now Garithos and the racists of lordaeron are all forsaken and thus, are in the horde.Everyone who tried to genocide the Blood Elves in WC 3 are now the very undead that are part of the horde.
>>580897203BINGO!
>>580896798>outlived by Warcraft rumble what happened to rumble? did it release or did they put it out of its misery before release?
do blizzcon be finished now
>>580897509They stopped supporting it sometime last year. Then the people who's job were to make assets for the game got moved onto making the new assets/graphics for Warcraft 3's latest campaign.Game just didn't do well
https://x.com/MrGMYT/status/2098864607452623205IT'S OVER
>>580897424kek I told you idiots the velf charger and the kultiran charger were deprecated spells from the paladin encounter before they changed it
>>580896345>has better water too
YeahI'm quitting this shit and moving to Forever when it comes out
>>580896381They have very little agency/control in their lives so they latch onto something they can try and influence to try and stop that uncomfortable buzz in the back of their minds. Of course they could try and improve their lot in life but that requires actual effort so they spend 18 hours a day spamming a thread about a video game instead
>>580897658repost it few more times, we didnt see it 50 times already.
>>580897081this blurry and bloomy shit will be an annoying noise after honeymoon period (first 20 mins) is over
>>580897241The Cataclysm expansion worked by leveling in the transformed Vanilla zones (if low level) and then getting level cap (80-85) in the new Cata zones (Twilight Highlands, Uldum, Deepholm, etc)
yea, after seeing all this i aint buying the 7 milly mount
>>580897698retoilet sisters... our water doesn't look like that...
>>580897705said no one ever
>>580895014He's one of the most important characters in gaming history and they humiliate him like thisJust fuck off tourist
holy shit do you really need a fucking panel to just tell that wow team discovered lighting
has there been any retail stuff today?
>>580897509it released, failed to capture an audience, and got put in maintenance mode about a year agoI thought it was fun but the Clash Royale style progression sucked
xiv out lives retail!
>>580897907
>>580897907no the preview and deepdive happened yesterdaythe blizzcon is pretty much now only esports and community shit left
What's the lore behind Night Elf Paladins? Knights of Elune or some shit?Why would Night Elves get to be Paladins before Worgen or Kul Tirans? Didn't every human kingdom follow the Light.
Now it's time to leave the sinking ship before it's too late and move to WoW Forever.
>>580897907Yes max was there and mdi happened!
>>580898115nelf paladin npc in legion is all i remember
>>580898115>Why would Night Elves get to be Paladins before Worgen or Kul Tirans?Night Elf players haven't shut the fuck up about it since Legion. Plus the metafags want the Night Elf racials.I'm pissed off that after the Tyrs Guard stuff in Dragonflight we still don't have KT Paladins.
>>580897795Yeah but it's confusing because that means if you create a character and level in their racial zone you're actually doing the cataclysm expansion even though TBC and wrath happened before.
>>580897907The m+ tournament happenedI didnt watch but I heard some USA chant in the back while watching classic+
>>580898115>What's the lore behind Night Elf Paladins? Knights of Elune or some shit?It was explained in legion and lets be real blizzard is only giving them paladin because they know the alliance trannies would shit their pants if only the horde gets a new paladin.
>>580898115>What's the lore behind Night Elf Paladins.Night Elves would've thrown a fit if they didn't get Paladin before Forsaken. So while blizzard made a entire questline dedicated to the story of Forsaken Paladins, they just shat out Night Elf Paladin cause please don't hate us anymore Night Elf fans we're sorry, we'll never touch Shadowmeld and give you every class in due time.
>>580897494>Literally use mentally challenged flesh golems as cannon fodder. And when they do get their asses kicked, they cry over their "allies", which are a bunch of shit-colored brutes, to do the heavy lifting.Oh, oh... OH!
>>580898171
>>580898338don't horde still have 2 more combinations than alliance
>>580898326Liquid wonned.
>>580898115I'm so confused at this point.Paladins are supposed to be holy warriors of the light, they are not just "warriors of whatever religion".Night Elf paladins are not supposed to be empowered by Elune and be just knights of Elune, Tauren paladins are retarded they shouldn't be using druidic sun magic while using hammers.It would be so much simpler if "light is the power of worship, if you have faith in something, you get light powers" in the same way as DND you get paladin powers no matter to whom or to what your sacred Oath is to.Buthere in WoW they make it so "Oh zandalari paladins use light because they worship a dinosaur" what?
https://www.youtube.com/live/Duqv2j_7XSgwarcraft time!!!!!!!!!!
where the fuck is the new thread
>>580898581>>580898581>>580898581new threadnew threadnew thread
>>580898450The alliance got velf dh and the horde got nothingThe horde should get forsaken paladin and that's it but they gave paladin to nelf to avoid their victim complex>>580898472>they are not just "warriors of whatever religion".They are warriors of whatever religion since mop when blizzard introduced the zandalari and gurubashi paladins
>>580898450That's not the point. Forsaken getting Paladin was supposed to be the big trade off for Nightborne not getting DH at the start of the expansion when Void Elf did. They outright admitted on stage, it was intended to be Forsaken only originally. It's why it's the only one that's getting an actual questline to explain and celebrate it as well as cross-promotion between 3 different games.
>>580898356>It takes one random cow going "wait, if one of the eyes of the Earth Mother we worship is the moon, the other is the sun? MOOOOOOO! I'M SUNMAXXIN" to spawn an entire order of paladins and priests in the space between two expansions>Now this shit for undead paladinsPaladin must be the most bastardized class in the game.
>>580897656>>580897960Not surprising they were like 5 years late to rumble craze.
>>580898651but even counting the additional DH race horde still have 2 more combinations on alliance
anon is on discord crying about forever lol.
>>580898651>They are warriors of whatever religion since mopBut then in Legion they made it very clear they are all just warriors who worship the light and use the light, not some shit about warriors of the sun with sun magic
>>5808988262 more normal classes. DH is still a hero class
>>580897428>Orcs tried to exterminate the elves in Warcraft 2>Scourge nearly exterminated the elves in Warcraft 3>Former members of the Scourge, Garithos' Army and the Scarlet Crusade turned undead are now part of the Forsaken who have joined the Horde>The Blood Elves joined the Horde through the Forsaken>Later Garrosh wanted to exterminate the Blood Elves>The Blood Elves still remained in the Horde due to Jaina's paranoia in Dalaran>The Blood Elves still don't want the Alliance because of Garithos, and the Alliance in Stormwind didn't even know what happened to himYou are right. This is literally irony. The Blood Elves defected to the group that wanted to exterminate them and stayed there. Lol. Amani Trolls and Ogres are still missing in Horde and Blood Elves are cooked. Lol.
>>580898887dh is a shit class for autistic faggots that can't stand still even in-game and desperately want to feel special
>>580898472>"light is the power of worship, if you have faith in something, you get light powers"That's basically what they've made it in the lore.They are just too lazy to skin non Light worshipping Paladins to have effects that make sense.It's the same with Night Elf Priests not having moon spells instead of light ones.
>>580898472realistically every race should be able to be every classlike yeah the Night Elf culture doesn’t really account for paladins, but the player is a random Night Elf doing their own thing, they could just worship the light for their own reasons
Nightborne still dont have DH?
>>580898651yea but being a velf dh over a nelf for literally any content in the game is gigabait so it doesn't count
>>580898826Paladin option is not the problem, for some reason the playerbase is obsessed with the special options for shaman, druid and paladin those must be balanced for reasons I don't understand but they had to give something to the alliance or face their social shitposting>>580898878No that's not what happened in legion not to mention nelf paladin was introduced in legion.
can someone show me where the battlenet authenticator app is? i havent played in a bit and i dont know where it is. maybe i deleted it off my phone
>>580899015That's probably never going to happen for the same reason worgens or kultirans got nothing right now, they are not popular like nelf.
Since M+ is centered around competitive esports garbage, if Blizzard was based they would make it so RACIALS are disabled when running M+, forcing players to only bring the class.
>>580899015Maybe in WoW Forever.
>>580898637
RETOILET IS ABANDONWARECLASSIC+ HAS INSANE RENDERING TECH
>>580899185wdym it's just called battle.net on any app store
My Orc Male warrior and DK were never fully against the Alliance being present in the Silvermoon because they love Human and High/Night elf Males and their strong lean backquarters. Especially nelf males because they are tall strong and love BGC.
>>580899332>implying the tech isn't coming to retail
>>580896345Im willing to bet that fog hides a lot of graphics errors and artifacts.
>>580899001But Light is its own cosmic magic, if they are not wielding the lights, then they can't be Paladins. They would be some weird "oh i wield Elune magic but i use a sword".
how do you queue up for the lair world boss? like on world tier the easy version
>>580899335oh i think i need to restore the authenticator but i dont know the serial number or restore code
>>580899332>>580899407>retail cannot handle the new rendering tech>it breaks whole game down just like how latest patches broke several things at the same time
>>580899498Yes, which is exactly why Night Elf fags for the last 10 years have been pushing to get special elune themed ability cosmetics as well.It's the race of people who just want, want, want.
>worlo sunsetting it's a sad day
Retailbros... I'm working the post timer for all its worth but no one is falling for my doomjeet posts...
>>580899615>It's the race of people who just want, want, want.Chinese?
>>580897081Imagine Stiches comes lumbering out of that fogGoosebump!!
Doomposters are making me cut my wrists. I don't want retail to die...
>>580899558You just walk into the lair's entrance and it auto joins you with other people
>>580899332>Forever specs
a toast to forever and retail wowtwo biggest winnersxiv mad
Maybe it's just me but I can't think of a single time I was sitting there stumped and wishing "man I wish this item was the right armor class so I could transmog it with the rest of this"Most simple stuff like eyepatches and hats and shit are Cosmetic now anyway so it doesn't matter
>>580899762xiv come
forever has arthasretail dont have arthas
>>580899863>worst character from dogshit series
Could XIV save retail in this case from Forever?
>Evercoal
>>580899964>Has ArthasOh no no no. He thinks he's getting Arthas. He doesn't know, HE DONDU KNOW. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT WHAT IFS, THAT MEANS IT'LL BE NERZHUL IN CHARGE, ARTHAS GONE BYE BYE, OHOHOHOOOOO
>>580899597Are you aware forever is built on the retail client? I feel like you think they are using a new engine.
>>580899843>tfw 2070 super
>>580899784oh shit lol ty
>GW2 is going forward with GW3>XIV is going forward with Evercold>WoW classic is going forward with WoW Forever>retail wow stops with the last troonbros...
RETOILET SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
>>580900513post it on wowcg lil unc classic darkshire is not our problem
what is this thread ? I see so many retail players hyped for forever than classic players?
>>580899843>All this for a decades-old engine with dozens of coats of paintNo matter what, Blizzard is still Nvidia's strongest soldier.
>>580900634Because forever is made for retail players and not for classic players, it shouldn't be hard to understand.
i feel like classic fags are extremely mad about forever and trying to shit on retail fagsbut most retailfags are just like "yeah forever looks like fun i'll try it"
>>580900634>shitposting>playersLets pretend that's the case for a minute, it's because Classic got shit on so hard that their precious Classic+ turned out to be Retail-.
>>580900634Ion has our back and gives us retail chads Forever and the classic chuds are seething because we get to play both
i had shit raid night and thus i fucking hate myself and wanna die
>>580900930lol
I feel like this is it, we had a good run and I guess now I get why it is called The Last Titan...
>muh mounts mogs and cheevos collection
>>580900801>he says, while posting in the literal bump limit soon-to-404 dead thread in the abandoned gameJust have some fucking balls and admit you lost. Good lord, it's a videogame. This level of delusional tribalism and coping over a game being discontinued is wild man.
>>580900930you will get your 1% boofie next week and you'll get the bosses down in 4 months stay strong
How come in other generals there's always a mentally ill autist obsessed with making the threads himself and gets very upset and starts spamming if someone else dares make the general, but WoWg doesn't have that and NOBODY wants to bake new threads?
Weather is still a thing in forever right
>>580900801>>580900863but why are classic fags madit's explicitly aiming to preserve the soul and feel of classicdo they really hate graphics updates and QoL improvements that much?
>>580900361disable gaytracing and it can run on any shitbox with a good cpu
>>580901049>it's explicitly aiming to preserve the soul and feel of classicAiming.And missing.They're somehow hitting the guy behind them instead of the target.
>>580901030we had autistic fursloppers that made them, but they all roped
>>580901049>it's explicitly aiming to preserve the soul and feel of classicNo it isn't, they are adding a shitty disney race, transmog, hd models, hd mounts and retail spells this is not even close to preserving the spirit of classic
>>580901049mostly the blue elves. the way i see it is basically a cash shop item that faggots pay for so i don't have to pay for an expansions worth of content, as forever only requires a sub
>>580900983RETOILET SIS NOT LIKE THIS ACK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9EKzvTo3g0
Undead Paladin chads cannot stop winning
dey suddenly vanished idk where they do be wenting
if you're a classicfag and you're mad about forever, maybe you should go to the new general >>580900240 and fight with the crowd that is excited for forever, instead of here fighting with people who are either indifferent or cautiously optimistic about it
let me know when the classicfags and /v/ tourists get bored and leave
>>580901049>preserve the feel of classic>retail animations>retail UI>retail dialog>retail graphics>retail looking races>retail quality of lifeuh huh
>>580901505I legit rather xiv fags than classic+fags
I fucking killed retail lmao, classic fucking won, retail casuals are all hyped up about classic lol!!! Come and fucking kill me yourself you fucking fag going in our classic thread false flagging retail is fucking dead. I am at peace.
>>580901517I'm not sure what the classicfags expected when they bitched about wanting classic+ to be made by modern blizzard.
>>580901505they are gone now
Is it true you can get to lvl 80 in 1 hour?
>>580901628Okay, tell me your name and address then
i hope they hurry i need to go big poopy
>Metzen worked on classic plusHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>580901724I am at peace and bliss. I know you fucking retail fags would false flag in our threads for years now we fuckiong won.
>bitch about classic+ for years>get classic+>autistic meltdownsBeing a classicfag is just a mental illness isn't it?
>>580901850>the shitposters were right
im blue elf druid
The fuck is happening I actually had to search for /wowg/ to find this thread.
>>580901902Most of the shitposts is made by people who haven't played wow in years
>Chris Metzen personally drew up the island for SkelvesEach time something new about the man is released I ask myself more about how the fuck he managed to dupe us all into worshipping him.
>>580901850
>Metzen is rejuvenated by ForeverHe cucked us...
>>580901902all you need is talent changes, old races, new zones and quests, new dungeons, and progression that makes the game playable for years, not that difficult to understand unless your brain is rotten from modern slop
>Metzen approved Skyborne, the blue blood elvesYea it's over for retail
>>580901902Being a Blizzdrone is a mental illness, and even more so in the post-Shadowlands era.
>>580902018>>580902138>Metzen did all this!>But you aren't allowed to see him or hear it from his own mouth!Basically puppeting his corpse
>>580902231youre in the retail thread. you can't go back to wowcg huh? kys
>>580901965Everyone gave up on Retail, I think Midnight sort of finally broke the little faith and interest people had post-Shadowlands. Forever kind of put the last nail in the coffin.
>>580901505Oh don't worry, he'll still be at it way past Nov 4th. It's not like he actually plays the game
>>580901517they've shown that they are explicitly reworking modern models to use OLD animations, and everything there is toggleable except the ui
>>580902018>>580902312George Lucas'd kek
>>580892582>like what?ZESTY lil unc... woundnt mind seeing you at THE shire...
>Asmon is sold about ForeverHe probably knows nothing about Ascension or Turtle WoW
>>580902650ye why would he dey dead
>>580902650He'll say what he needs to fuel the hype so he can play Forever to massive numbers for a few weeks before dropping it and doing a few rants about how its actually shit.
>>580902650oh god this is really pathetic. reflect on yourself
>>580902650Who cares.All he knows is that his human warrior main is getting a skelf wifey.We should all be so lucky.
>>580902606retail ui is not toggeableretail dialog is not toggeableretail races are not toggeableretard raids are not toggeable
>>580902804wife on the left
>>580902606Untrue, many of the animations are from retail and the rigging is very clearly from retail. What they actually did is modify a few vanilla animations and force them to try work with the retail rigs.>muh toggleI would rather it be baseline. It's very clearly pandering to the retail crowd, and I would not want to play with them anyway. That's why I chose classic. But let's face it, the classic crowd are beyond help because they min-max and optimize the fun out of the game, and while that is admittedly "fun" for them, it leads down the same path 2019 classic did, where boosts and player interaction will be dead in the water outside of Discord and guilds. Players become much more snarky and all want to be le pro gamer because their favorite streamer told them so.The game and overall landscape has changed for the worse, and while I will still play it, I will not enjoy it nearly as much as I did all those years ago in 2004.
>>580902851i give it 2 weeks tops before an addon to revert the ui and dialog is in
>>580902804>human getting anythinglmao
>>580903206>it doesnt count lollol you're coping because forever is made for retail players
>Here's some recolored Blood Elves>That'll be $29.99 + tip goy
OGRES
>>580903173>I dont want to play with retail players>I don't want to play with classic players, they take all the fun out of the game!you seem fun and not annoying at all
>>580903463>>580903463>>580903463>>580903463New
>>580894515behead all elf players
>>580903431>cant prove me wrongAre you the 1st or 2nd player?
>>580894515Just open up the fucking reputations, you have the perfect mulligan opportunity you monkeys so get to it. The reputation window is the perfect UI environment to pick and choose your enemies for world pvp and crossfaction you morons.
>>580875587If anyone reports you you get money stolen with no human oversight.